sk-discussion

[dense heath]

What's that

[stray orchid]

A sk dlc would be nice too

[hardy tangle]

a hk prequel or sequel where you play as thk would be questionable

[severe steeple]

why does steel soul stuff only exist in steel soul. Bad lore

[ocean quarry]

a prequel would make zero sense

[hardy tangle]

i doubt they'd make a silksong dlc about thk its more about hornet

[dense heath]

I want a game where I can go from hallownest to pharloom

[ocean quarry]

but a sequel would be nice

when is hollow knight 2 coming out

[dense heath]

😔

[odd hull]

Bc it wouldn't be steel soul stuff if it wasn't only in steel soul

[dense heath]

[stray orchid]

That nostalgia would hit the right spot

[dusk quail]

sequel with THK would likely be a masterpiece, id love to see the characters look at their height in wonder

[hardy tangle]

84th repost

[marsh ibex]

You deadass not wrong

[severe steeple]

so steel makes everything weak

[dusk quail]

all the stuff for THK is bs, they made a bigger kingdom for SS, they can do it for HK3

also washed just like hornet, but when infected
who knows what theyre likek when theyre uninfected

[marsh ibex]

honestly as a story sequel silksong disappointed me so I’d rather they properly disconnect everything or just make a game not in the same series

[hardy tangle]

except thk is like x10 bigger not x2 like hornet

[stray orchid]

This is what idk how to feel about
Do I want a third game with hornet? Or a new game with a new character? Myb even an old character being playable

[ocean quarry]

bruh the story is legit the only thing that kept me in the game for this long

[marsh ibex]

I mean, we are aware of them uninfected. (Yes I know you meant after being freed from the radiance)

[marsh ibex]

good for you dude

[dusk quail]

he's like 5x, and even still it wouldnt be hard to pull it off even if it was 10

[dense heath]

Imagine we play as hk

We start as lil pure vessel

We train

We grow up

We fight the white palace war

Then we get trapped

And The knight is final boss😂 😂 😂

But we can go further for true ending and true final boss

[hardy tangle]

if they ever make a third hk game i dont want it to be anything related to anyone from hallownest except shade lord

[atomic sparrow]

maybe dlcs will fix everything!!! trust!

[marsh ibex]

i just like
idk I’d rather them not do another game where the protagonist needs to regain lost strength?

[dense heath]

Fr

[marsh ibex]

it’s kinda a personal thing but metroidvanias always annoy me when that happens

[hardy tangle]

ari gibson: kill... me...

[severe steeple]

I guess they wanted to keep most of the story seperate so you can dont need to play the first game but the details of the story are so criptic anyway that I would have loved to see more connection and questions from hk answered

[marsh ibex]

for like a few seconds then I stop caring

[dusk quail]

you say it like ari hated developing silksong

[marsh ibex]

No I liked them keeping the story separate I disliked it when they tied it back to the first one

[fiery burrow]

this but remove the last 8 words

[stray orchid]

We are destined to be dreamnailed and fight alongside kh BUT we live and continue playing

[ocean quarry]

honestly i kinda want a precision platformer thk game

[ancient mortar]

I liked silksongs story but i still dont think we need another hollow knight game after this. Id rather tc try something new next

[hardy tangle]

if you wanna wait 19 years we can get a thk game

[marsh ibex]

honestly team cherry just needs to make a higher being clash of clans fr fr

[dense heath]

Yes

But hk only opened the eye of raidance r8?

[severe steeple]

different genre

[marsh ibex]

all the micro transactions too btw

[dense heath]

It was the knight who fought

[ocean quarry]

radiance tower defence

[dusk quail]

sure

[atomic sparrow]

dun dun dun dun dun dun! (clash of clans opening jingle)

[marsh ibex]

nah, a kingdom builder

[hardy tangle]

mf still cant talk btw

[marsh ibex]

That’s the proper term

[severe steeple]

hk3 gona be a proper soulslike and 3d

[hardy tangle]

boring ass dialogue

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-homelander-gif-16156538903600882075

[dusk quail]

litterally whats wrong with that

hk1 had good dialogue without tk even talking

[marsh ibex]

soulslike?

[dense heath]

Ik team cherry is here

I just can't prove it

[stray orchid]

Chat imagine this a game in hallownest BUT pre pk and we try to make pk a king fr

[ocean quarry]

hk3 gonna be plants vs the infected

[marsh ibex]

Ari’s literally online

[dense heath]

Frrrrrrr

[atomic sparrow]

here as in this server? then ari is

[cerulean sable]

I liked Skongs story too same like i didnt mind the connections personally

I just wish they added more lore bits to Pharloom, but simple as it may be i still enjoyed it

[severe steeple]

dont hate on good things

[dense heath]

[atomic sparrow]

I doubt he ever looks in these channels though

[hardy tangle]

its just boring? twice in the franchise

[dusk quail]

William Pellen give us a sign

[marsh ibex]

good things? Soulslike?

[severe steeple]

somebody needs to take the pvz formula out of popcaps hands at somepoint

[hardy tangle]

hey its me

[severe steeple]

peak

[ocean quarry]

coughs in bloonstd

[ancient mortar]

I liked most things about silksong but im generally of the mind theres not really another sequel needed. if they do anything else in the universe id want it to not have a protag from a previous game

[dusk quail]

and void killing the main villain who was sealed away to stop their influence from spreading appeared twice

[dense heath]

Ever heard of

Theory of relativity??

[marsh ibex]

I wouldn’t have minded the connections so much if I didn’t feel like it just made it worse
like herrah being a weaver now is a good connection and change but like

void being another major player just did not tickle my fancy, I suppose

[dense heath]

EXACTLY 💯

[cerulean sable]

Like i know server regulars dont like A3 and what not but i still enjoyed a lot of story beats like Red Memory personally

[marsh ibex]

red memory’s neat

[hardy tangle]

truth puke

[exotic dome]

publish like 3 expansions and a boss rush expansion and we are good

[dusk quail]

A3 is so good idk why they hating

[exotic dome]

no need for a third game

[stray orchid]

It just feels forced

[ancient mortar]

Yeah once dlc is all out i think thats enough hollow knight content

[hardy tangle]

thats just act 3, not the whole entire duration of the game

[dense heath]

[dense heath]

I need anime

[dusk quail]

??? "oh nooo i dont want to deal with the consequences of my actions :((( why are you forcing me i hate you"

[hardy tangle]

act 1 and act 2 are significantly better than act 3 anyway

[dense heath]

Of hollow knight

[severe steeple]

exploration aspect goes out of the window outside of a couple areas that are all linear and too much stuff tied behind quests imo

[ocean quarry]

a3 gameplay is ass
a3 lore is peak

[severe steeple]

boss fights are peak

[dusk quail]

lowk yeah but HK's exploration basically dissapears by awoken dream nail

[ocean quarry]

tbh you can apply this to act 1 as well

[wind mulch]

a3 everything is ass

[exotic dome]

-locked being boring quest requirements instead of a real and interesting buildup
-void is overused and shouldnt have been brought back
-shaman retcon (it's explicitly stated that shamans can't use void in hk)
-lack of exploration (very major issue for metroidvania game)
-old hearts feel very random and they feel like a glorified boss rush
-elegy of the deep should've been used to discover the other old kingdoms too other than verdania

[dense heath]

If u think lore wise

We had a lot of time in both acts

But act 3 needed to feel rushed

Cus all of pharloom would be doomed if hornet didn't act quick

[cerulean sable]

Thats fair, void stuff does feel it was pulled out of nowhere

But i wasnt really annoyed too hard on some of the retcons but i still enjoyed seeing Hornets interaction (flawed as some maybe) to Pharloom so simple as the main story is

[stray orchid]

No lol not what I meant I felt it lacks more exploring

[stray orchid]

Like he said

[severe steeple]

well thats almost the end of the game there, here its also kinda the end but the act structure leads people to expect more

[opaque sigil]

the act 3 reqs leading into the game handholding you by spamming objective markers on your map is so funny

[dense heath]

Void is overused??

Wdym??

[cerulean sable]

But yeah flaws in A3 and all,bi still liked the premise of it

[fiery burrow]

We need more 3D metroidvanias

[ocean quarry]

we need more isometric* metroidvanias

like UNSIGHTED

[hardy tangle]

void is clearly an important thing hk why we surprised it shows up

[cerulean sable]

Yeah my only biggest gripe is the quest requirements, i do think they should still adjust it a bit more overtime

[exotic dome]

it shows up so randomly

[icy crow]

We need more games like Mega Man Zero

[dusk quail]

because theres NO mention of it ever in silksong before ensnared silk lowk epic plot twist

[atomic sparrow]

w silver bells

[exotic dome]

my main gripe is the lack of exploration in act 3 i think

[severe steeple]

act 3 is the only point where I truly felt like I just needed to go and do exactly waht the main quest told me to do, atleast it was split up with the hearts though

[ocean quarry]

does pseudoregalia count for this btw

[dense heath]

Like undertale?

[hardy tangle]

cus its for a seperate act

[exotic dome]

pseudoregalia is cool

[marsh ibex]

Honestly I think I expected a bit too much of Silksong
At least Hornet emotion wise

also I can’t lie every weaver being dead aside from widow pissed me off like that genuinely felt like such an easy way to get hornet’s past without needing red memory to effectively lore dump

[wind mulch]

i dont understand the thought process behind fetch quests in silksong

[icy crow]

Act three is like choosing a Mega Man stage but one is horribly harder than the other

[exotic dome]

i think mvs are better in 2d format but there are some good 3d mvs

[exotic dome]

the point is hornet building a community all over pharloom while having a character development, but it's not implemented well and just ain't it

collect my bells

[dusk quail]

silk and soul quest for me is fine tbh, only thing id change for it is silver bells spawning consistently instead of having to reload bellvein over and over

otherwise it shows Character Development for Hornet story-wise

[atomic sparrow]

Weaver's den weaver? never seen again! maybe in a dlc

[ocean quarry]

let's all just agree that hk is better than sk

[cerulean sable]

This is a hottake for this server but i actually didnt mind A3s exploration part, i just think they shouldve done more to trashing Pharloom more instead of the enemies

[wind mulch]

collect my bells

[hardy tangle]

can we play as a hk character that isnt
completely expressionless and feels little emotions
or stoic and locked in and 800 years old

[dense heath]

My friends an I also like hk,s story better and more grandeur

[stray orchid]

The geography of pharloom is missing with my brain if bone bottom is above the surface and the abyss is under it how exactly does that make sense cuz hallownest is all underground and the void is really deep down so that must mean the void swallowed hallownest thus the pharloom void was really close to the surface

[noble sable]

I just realized that groal is screaming his own name at the start of his fight upon listening to the raw audio

[fiery burrow]

I think but I only played like 30 minutes of it

[hardy tangle]

if we get thk as a protag we just go back to completely expressionlesss nothing burger

[ocean quarry]

bruh what more could they have done

every region changes

[dusk quail]

bone bottom is not on the surface not even close

[icy crow]

?

Bone Bottom was never in the surface

[dense heath]

Hkmmmmmmmmm

[dense heath]

It's in middle

[icy crow]

The Abyss is pretty much the core of the world where both games take place in lol

Abyss: ZoteBoat Edition

[slim thorn]

kettle of despair

[dense heath]

Hk>>>Sk

Story wise

Gameplay wise
Sk>hk

[stray orchid]

I'd like an explanation pls

[noble sable]

it's just eldritch oil

[severe steeple]

well I still couldnt bother to go through every area on my 100% 100% save file as it makes me feel like im wasting my time just running around the world a bit

[wind mulch]

hk's story and atmosphere just mogs so hard for me

[vivid belfry]

these guys are why I always take delver's drill into cogwork

[ocean quarry]

this implies that hallownest is way deeper underground than pharloom is

interesting

[dense heath]

From me?

[stray orchid]

All of you who said bone bottom is not on the surface

[icy crow]

Certainly up to a point, considering the abyss of Pharloom is way deeper in

[dense heath]

Exactly 🫦

[dusk quail]

actually, if you put both kingdom maps side by side so that Dirtmouth and Nameless town line up, bone bottom appears in ancient basin which is just epic for me

[exotic dome]

story is the least important thing in a mv so i still prefer sk

[dense heath]

It's in the middle I believe

What do u call surface

[severe steeple]

hollow knight is so easy after silksong, why do people say its not harder

[dusk quail]

if you get to act 3, you'll see the surface

[hardy tangle]

as a game silksong is better yeah

[wind mulch]

story is one of the most important things for me

[dense heath]

Elite ball knowledge 🔥 🔥

[ocean quarry]

the surface is the surface lmao
aka ||nameless town||

[noble sable]

HK has harder CHALLENGES but is overall easier

[dense heath]

No cost too great??

[dusk quail]

yeah, Hallownest's void line matches up pretty well with Pharloom's i think i gotta double check tho

[exotic dome]

true it depends from person to person

[icy crow]

Mfs be calling Path of Pain hardass until City of Steel + Trial of Trauma drops

[vivid belfry]

godhome blows the fuck out of anything in silksong, difficulty wise

[fiery burrow]

hk fans when the fantasy world has a primordial darkness a trickster god and a dragon king with a focus on inevitable decline 😍

[wind mulch]

the themes bro the themes

[stray orchid]

That's the answer I've been looking for thank you

[hardy tangle]

we will never get path of pain in silksong because crests exist, and if we do it wont be very fun

[dense heath]

Yes

Nothing compares to abs rad and zote the MIGHTYYYYYYYY!!!!

[noble sable]

we're probably gonna get challenges of the same difficulty as stuff like path of pain or pure vessel or even trial of the fool in dlcs

[slim thorn]

it better be something difficult this time, pop too easy and short

[exotic dome]

"...but always, Ati, I remain a Memory in Orbit."

[dusk quail]

I think Silksong's story is amazing and how it addresses religion being intertwined with leadership

[severe steeple]

Mostly just the final bosses and maybe a couple dream bosses. Still I would say Lost Lace is only a bit easier than pale vessel as long as you dont tool spam her

[atomic sparrow]

TUFF

[ocean quarry]

specialized path of pains for each crest 😮

[rotund gate]

BRO WHERE IS SHAKRA IN BILEWATER

[hardy tangle]

if you gave palestag spikes and a bigger arena thats basically just absrad

[dense heath]

Idky collossium of fools type thing wasn't added in ss in base game

[hardy tangle]

uhh too much work

[dusk quail]

i hard disagree, imagine all the diversity for how you could run the path with the crest system

[wind mulch]

nothing in silksong felt as weighty as the abyss climb

[dense heath]

Maybe they have it connected to sea of sorrow or smthng

[ocean quarry]

coral tower:

[icy crow]

For the map or

[rotund gate]

WHO was this bumass groal mf btw 😂 ✌️

[rotund gate]

map

[noble sable]

coral tower is the closest we have to SS colosseum of fools

[hardy tangle]

if they can even pull that off but i doubt it

[ocean quarry]

that requires double jump

[dusk quail]

why are you so pessimistic

[noble sable]

I personally think TOTF is harder though

[rotund gate]

i have double jump

[dense heath]

Wait is it like collossium of fools???

I haven't completed ss so idk

[dense heath]

Yes💔 🥀

[severe steeple]

rune rage shines in coral tower. underrated pick

[ocean quarry]

well it ain't optional

[rotund gate]

its a tower of coral

[dusk quail]

whats TOTF i forget

[hardy tangle]

team cherry

[noble sable]

trial of the fool

[fiery burrow]

clawline 😍 clawline 🤩 clawline 😻

[dusk quail]

oh ok

[dense heath]

Yea so it's part of story

Is it repeatable???

[atomic sparrow]

it is enemy gauntlets but I don't think its as long as all the trials combined
its not repeatable

[hardy tangle]

the existence of surface climb

[dense heath]

THEN ITS NOT COLLOSSIUM OF FOOLS EQUAL BRO😭

[ocean quarry]

i almost said "that's insane" but then i remembered i never died to coral tower

[rotund gate]

-# ok imma drop the act uh
can you still get seekers soul after beating groal if silk and soul isnt active

[ocean quarry]

and totf kicked my ass a few times

[atomic sparrow]

yeah it really ain't

[dense heath]

Where r my Path of Pain brothers🔥

[ocean quarry]

yes

[rotund gate]

same here

[exotic dome]

what if they add the platforming section in an area that drains your silk (brand new city of steel invention) so you can't clawline through everything

[noble sable]

coral tower WAS frustrating on my first playthrough but its become my favorite old heart now with more playthroughs

[vivid belfry]

silksong could do fucked up shit with platforming by mandating certain crests, and it's not like this is an impossible ask because you get forced into hunter crest at the beginning of act 3 and half the time you talk to eva

[dense heath]

[atomic sparrow]

maybe we'll get an equivalent in a dlc

[slim thorn]

so silly

[dusk quail]

surface climb had a restricction where you had to go up, ofc it wouldnt be as good as PoP where they were allowed to do litterally anything with it

[icy crow]

Cyclone Slash lowkey smites God Tamer

[rotund gate]

ok so im currently in bilewater scheming on groals doom

[dense heath]

Yes

Maybe it's lore thing we will get in sea of sorro

[severe steeple]

thats something they should leave for the godhome dlc. Platforming challenges

[exotic dome]

i like the cogwork automaton voices a lot for some reason

[vivid belfry]

suface climb isn't silksong's path of pain, it's the clawline directional input tutorial

[hardy tangle]

what are the chances its 80% clawline

[atomic sparrow]

I doubt we'll get a colo equivalent in sos tbh
we'll see

[rotund gate]

btw are those weird green things in the secret bench room somewhat near bilehaven breakable orr

wait let me see

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-squidward-mr-krabs-rock-gif-9714276628674837375

[noble sable]

yes, karmelita's boss fight is way better than khann's but the gauntlet before her is baby shit and forgettable

[dusk quail]

beginnning of act 3 locking you into hunter is bs, imagine having to relearn a crest on the fly

Hunter is my 2nd main but im talking about reaper and wanderer users

[heady iron]

The Stage of Jesters

[dense heath]

Surface climb is... The lava thingy we climb up.from??

[icy crow]

Do you mean the maggot packs? No

[rotund gate]

only memorable part of that gauntlet is last claw

[dusk quail]

I do not remember cogwork core being 80% claw line

[severe steeple]

and were all standing on it

[dusk quail]

from cradle to nameless town

[old compass]

no it's the climb to the unamed village required for the memonto and herald quest

[ocean quarry]

is there a mod that fixes that? (for steel soul purposes)

[dense heath]

😂 that's a skill issue r8 there

I had no probs with it

[dusk quail]

never bothered to check

[noble sable]

that and the arena isn't nearly as interesting or immersive as coral tower's

[hardy tangle]

silksongs dash just wont allow for platforming like hk anywy

[vivid belfry]

I think it would be bullshit if steel soul was the only gamemode

[old compass]

if you're using a mod is it really authentic steel soul?

[hardy tangle]

cus you still fall while dashing

[icy crow]

Silksong doesn't even really have a dash

[dusk quail]

me neither, but others do bro, not everyone is you 😭

[icy crow]

It's just sprint lmao

[atomic sparrow]

yeah
I don't even think its on the same level of difficulty relatively to what pop was to hk
surface climb is more akin to white palace imo, like 2 or 3 rooms
I don't think we've seen the true depths of platforming tc is cooking up for silksong tbh

[ocean quarry]

authentic steel soul fucking sucks in this game

[rotund gate]

(because its not the point of the memory)

[dense heath]

I still haven't given the dilivary to the mnt fay mask maker dude

[heady iron]

I've played through steel soul act 1 so many times I've gotten used to hunter

[dense heath]

💔 🥀 🥀 🥀

[icy crow]

In the secret bench room (or the one to the right of it, I forgot), you can actually break one of those for a Memory Locket

[hardy tangle]

it would be just annoying to try and make silksong path of pain you gotta take in account so much shit
so they wont do it

[old compass]

well, if that's your opinion. Though, I doubt there's a mod that fixes such a niche problem

[exotic dome]

surface climb is easier than mt fay and cogwork core parkour

[severe steeple]

combining both into one as to not overload the movement system

[opaque sigil]

surface climb is the same easy jump over and over and over and over and over

[noble sable]

neither was it for nyleth's but her arena is still stunningly gorgeous

[rotund gate]

yeah i JUST found out there were dead pilgrims inside of there 😭

[opaque sigil]

surface climb is very easy it's just long

[icy crow]

Stilkin hunting session #0358392

[dense heath]

I hated when I did both and path of pain

But now I love remembering every second of it

[dusk quail]

yeah verdania and coral tower memories make sense cuz you never see the areas in the real world,

you already do see March and Shellwood tho which is why their memories are just bossfight

[ocean quarry]

i still don't get why karmelita has a gauntlet

[atomic sparrow]

I thought it was very short

[old compass]

TC just likes trolling you that's why

[heady iron]

Dlc will introduce surface to space climb

[hardy tangle]

it feels long cus its boring

[dense heath]

She growl the great of act 3 😭

[icy crow]

I mean, there really isn't a dash. It's more of a boost mid-air which just properls yourself forward and donward

[dusk quail]

Lore purposes cuz why aint anyone tryna hhelp

[ocean quarry]

small reminder that nyleth is technically in the grand gate area

[dense heath]

EXACTLY 💯💯

[severe steeple]

also called a dash

[noble sable]

like don't get me wrong all 4 old hearts have incredible backgrounds but karmelita's feels the weakest to me (which is still a very high bar to clear)

[atomic sparrow]

though that could just be me not having done it for awhile

[orchid spruce]

team cherry has this impulsive need to make questionable decisions

[dusk quail]

no, you have to access it from Grand gate where it then becomes shellwood

[icy crow]

Except it doesn't go directly forward

[dense heath]

The boss fly in jail area was annoying too

[rotund gate]

broodmother

[dense heath]

Yesss

[noble sable]

I hate broodmother

[fiery burrow]

the gruz mother callback in phase 2 is lowk the tuffest reference in the game

[ocean quarry]

you cannot see it on the map without buying the grand gate map

[rotund gate]

everyone does

[dusk quail]

yo dawg am in silksong discussion or silkhate discussion cuz why is everyone hating on peak

genuinely broodmother was fun

[noble sable]

boring boss and one of the worst arenas

[atomic sparrow]

gruz mother strats 😭

[fiery burrow]

like that actually got me kinda hyped I'm ngl

[dusk quail]

ohhhhh you mean thru technicality

yeah that makes sense

[dense heath]

I cheesed her after I died 5 times

I invented my own cheese way and was SOOO HAPPYYYYU

[rotund gate]

flukemarm exists dont forget

[hardy tangle]

imagine silksong path of pain and the only reason its difficult is cus the spike obstacles do 2 masks

[rotund gate]

broodmother has actual attacks flukemarm does actually jackshit

[old compass]

me when broodmother
"close enough, welcome back gruzmother"

[dense heath]

I clinged to top left wall

And whenever she jumped near me

I drilled her

[atomic sparrow]

how do we feel about this then

[heady iron]

TC are cowards for nerfing saw damage

[ocean quarry]

i literally said "technically"

[noble sable]

I use memory crystal during it to make it go quicker

[icy crow]

Team Cherry will only make good games once they add a fully functional shinespark mechanic in their following uploads

[severe steeple]

when the stinky prison feels like a stinky prison with tricky enemies instead of a chill place

[rotund gate]

who is this

[dusk quail]

like i thought your technically was talking about you only being able to access from the gate gng 😭

[fiery burrow]

what is this referencing am I a larper

[hardy tangle]

tc are saints for nerfing sandcarvers

[hardy tangle]

cogwork CLAPPER

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-nocomeback-nevermind-gif-4834877

[atomic sparrow]

its bouncing up and down like a certain boss...

[noble sable]

memory crystal is underhated ngl it carries me through melee bosses that move around a lot

[dense heath]

Drilling brood mother was such a great fun

I GOT MY REVENGE❤️

[icy crow]

Bro got assinged to a job and did another smh

[fiery burrow]

ludonarrative harmony has to be the most slop thing ever added to video games ever

[hardy tangle]

cogwork clapper vs choir clapper

[fiery burrow]

blame rain world

[noble sable]

I can't tell you how many times it came in clutch during lost lace

[ocean quarry]

btw

[fiery burrow]

ogrim?

[ocean quarry]

is the citadel floating in the air

[icy crow]

Marmu

[fiery burrow]

oh

[atomic sparrow]

Ogrim has gravity no?

[dusk quail]

no, theres a ceiling on Greymoor iirc

[icy crow]

Except Cogwork Clappers cannot aimbot you

[severe steeple]

why if its so effective at creating memorable areas. who the hell would remember bilewater if it was just like far fiels but darker

[fiery burrow]

Broodmother mogs cuz its a phase 2 addition

[fiery burrow]

I remember Bilewater because I didn't like it and that's bad

[atomic sparrow]

what brightness y'all play silksong at

[orchid spruce]

broodmother is okay

[icy crow]

Would you rather have stinky purple Bilewater or smelly green Bilewater

[old compass]

#sk-discussion message

[noble sable]

yeah it just drops one of those weird mine things right in front of it so you can't whale on it as much

[hardy tangle]

who memorises ts

[dusk quail]

100, the default

[atomic sparrow]

I do

[ocean quarry]

truth nuke

[orchid spruce]

I like Bilewater

[noble sable]

it's VERY overhated

[vivid belfry]

Bilewater's mechanics feel oppressive without actually being that difficult, I think that's an important distinction

[icy crow]

Where the Water is Bile

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/buzz-lightyear-meme-2--k01KRJ1RNADTKKVX14MWJH66QQ1

[exotic dome]

bilewater is good until upper part

[noble sable]

now UNDERWORKS doesn't get enough hate

[vivid belfry]

it feels like it's super dangerous but I didn't actually die very frequently

[fiery burrow]

Well Bilewater is more or less fine but Stilkins are stinkers

[hardy tangle]

no its not theres a million people who'd suck bilewater feet

[orchid spruce]

poptlc story is so boring

[fiery burrow]

and Groal is kinda mid if you get stuck on it

[vivid belfry]

Stilkins fucking suck

[hardy tangle]

now this is true

[noble sable]

ah

[severe steeple]

Bilewater is one huge lesson that the game teaches you or punishes you for not learning. You can choose to make it worse and actually hate it or learn to understand why they made it the way it is.

[opaque sigil]

they're also barely anywhere

[exotic dome]

bilewaters vertical platforming section is the most interesting platforming in the game

[dusk quail]

id suck any ngl

[orchid spruce]

i'm scared i miss out on peak but this is the most generic fantasy ever

[ocean quarry]

you sound like the rick and morty copypasta

[dusk quail]

Underworks is peak gameplay storytelling, its sposed to be hated

[fiery burrow]

I learned the area I just don't caaaare 💔

[opaque sigil]

it's not a story driven game

[orchid spruce]

could someone reassure me

[opaque sigil]

you can just skim the dialogue

[icy crow]

My ass trying to get their full entry and then they have the spawn rate of a damn Gold Worm in Terraria

[hardy tangle]

like 1 week in when the game released there were so many people glazing bilewater and groal trying to be different

[orchid spruce]

thanks

[severe steeple]

we are talking about some game design here. Bland and basic versus intentionally uncomfortable

[fiery burrow]

why does poptlc reward you with lore items if the story is mid 🤔

[dusk quail]

isnt it 50/50 😭

[noble sable]

boring as fuck, no boss fights despite the sheer size, insufferable enemies that you can't avoid, and claustrophobic spaces throughout

[icy crow]

I know I'm just joking

[ocean quarry]

you can make people uncomfortable without making the game oppressive

[old compass]

I think it's 50% of the discussion community, but if we count all the players it's only 10% of all players (most people don't discuss games)

[atomic sparrow]

those tall stinklins
do they even spawn anywhere besides groal?

[dense heath]

So what happens if hentavirus happens in hk

Does bugs get hentavirus

[hardy tangle]

people in the server

[worldly quartz]

No

[rotund gate]

what happens if you go into the arena in the slab where youd normally get your cloak back if you never got captured in the first place

[worldly quartz]

Hentaivirus

[fiery burrow]

Deepnest and Underworks are examples of an oppressive space done in a fun and meaningful way lowk

[vivid belfry]

I mean bilewater isn't actually oppressive, it just pretends to be that way

[hardy tangle]

im sure the average joe despises bilewater

[old compass]

yeah, it's only this server and reddit

[noble sable]

doesn't make it any less awful dude

[dusk quail]

it being insufferable and stupid is kinda the story that Silksong's tryna tell

how the gilded halls of the Citadel's denizens above can only be supported with basically slavery and badness

[hardy tangle]

underworks makes me sleep tight dont let the bet bugs bite

[dense heath]

Kids r here gng STFU

[icy crow]

Genuine question would you pet a Muckroach for one dollar

[rotund gate]

hate sinners road and ducts instead

[dusk quail]

yeah no im just saying to not hate on it too hard 😭

[ocean quarry]

i made a wig out of all the hair i ripped out during the groal runback

[vivid belfry]

the maggot mechanic feels super dangerous because it's effectively triple damage but that's only true if you panic heal every time it happens, AND they just throw free silk at you constantly through the grape squits

[worldly quartz]

Okayy

[severe steeple]

and why is an area being oppressive a such a bad thing, clearly alot of people loved it

[fiery burrow]

Its kind of a mediocre area that presents itself as awful

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-uncanny-mr-incredible-its-uncanny-time-gif-26726195

[hardy tangle]

hot take i like sinners road atmosphere more than bilewaters

[fiery burrow]

Underworks and Deepnest are good areas that present themselves as awful there's a difference

[dense heath]

If I'm size of hornet than maybe yes or no

If I'm normal size than maybe yes or no

[tight viper]

Bilewater is cool

[hardy tangle]

and bilewater is carried by its music

[tight viper]

I wish it was larger

[fiery burrow]

the music is great

[icy crow]

Muckroaches lowkey got dog potential

[hardy tangle]

underworks is sleepy time googoo

[rotund gate]

ok sinners road actually has some non act 3 stuff that has nothing to do with the rest of the area things to offer compared to ducts

[old compass]

you can cheese groal once you play the game again, it's oppressive on the 1st that's for sure though

[hardy tangle]

its like they copy pasted the same 8 rooms 30 tims

[rotund gate]

i just realized

[dense heath]

Muckdogs

[regal isle]

yall my audio isnt working at all how do i fix it? its specifically not working for silksong

[tight viper]

Underworks is mediocre

[fiery burrow]

you jus can't appreciate the story they're trying to tell

[rotund gate]

ducts

[orchid spruce]

underworks is ass

[old compass]

🤝 another who calls em roaches mutt dogs

[heady iron]

What were underworkers even doing in the cradle

[icy crow]

You can get like 94% completion before act three

Act three is that short

[ocean quarry]

tbh my favourite area might be grand gate

[rotund gate]

what about purely gameplay wise

[severe steeple]

If you enjoyed the enemies that force you to stop, blind traps and spikes everywhere so what does bilewater do so wrong for you to hate it then

[opaque sigil]

ducts is actually a bad area, and they were even ripping off half life. Imagine riping off half life and still managing to suck

[rotund gate]

93*

[orchid spruce]

just another area with the same tall-column-with-branches, ZZZZ

[hardy tangle]

storywise i love it obviously cus that one room where the workers stare at a frayed rosary string that was cool but as an area its BORING

[rotund gate]

except for fleatopia WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REST OF THE FUCKING AREA

[exotic dome]

ducts shouldve been halved and made a subarea

[regal isle]

nvm i js gotta restart my pc

[ocean quarry]

that's like 90% of singleplayer fps games

[icy crow]

They should've added a shitter enemy that deals four masks of contact damage

[hardy tangle]

they do a good job showing how miserable it all is but the area itself is also misrable to play in

[tight viper]

Underworks should have respawning enemies

[fiery burrow]

it doesn't really have anything of interest besides groal and I find its aesthetic rather boring and its enemies annoying

[orchid spruce]

it's comical how they can't fucking think of another map layout aside from tall-column-with-branches

stop spamming it, for fucks' sakes

[ocean quarry]

who

[orchid spruce]

silksong

[worldly quartz]

I think ducts are pretty cool

[ocean quarry]

fair

[fiery burrow]

DUCTS?

[opaque sigil]

that's a pretty natural way to do a vertical area

[dense heath]

I liked the runback to groal

[old compass]

it sucks that I need to go from memorium through a very secret wall

[orchid spruce]

except they spam it EVERYWHERE

[dusk quail]

sounds good on paper but some people genuinely found ducts before bilewater (me) and they wont be able to access ducts map if they dont go to bilewater

[worldly quartz]

Oh yeah i did that

[icy crow]

Talking like Hollow Knight doesn't do the same

[dense heath]

Runback to soul master WAS BAAAAD💔 💔 💔

[old compass]

good for you 🤝

[vivid belfry]

I've never had to do the groal runback

[dense heath]

Made me quit hk for like 2 months straight 😭 😭 😭

[orchid spruce]

HK had more variety

[dusk quail]

me too me too, helped me strengthen my platforming

[tight viper]

Not really

[vivid belfry]

anyway groal is decent

[fiery burrow]

I first tried groal second playthrough I got stuck and it sucked hard though

[hardy tangle]

[phone] aura points

[dense heath]

Yea🔥

[ocean quarry]

ok yes true but groal's is far worse

[exotic dome]

i guess you can still add a secret wall from memorium to ducts there

[hardy tangle]

❌

[icy crow]

Friendly reminder that Bilewater is genuinely Team Cherry's favorite area in the game

[atomic sparrow]

if you prepare well groal melts he has really low hp, something like 650 I think?

[severe steeple]

The only enemy I find is too much is the stupid maggots in the mask shard area the stiltkins act more like traps that spring up if anything forcing you to be on guard. I do agree that the theming isnt as cool as something like deepnest but none of that is enough for me to start claming the area just sucks outright

[fiery burrow]

they need to be stopped 🥀

[dusk quail]

but there is already a secret wall from memorium to ducts there

[opaque sigil]

tc shouldn't have patched the groal skip

[atomic sparrow]

do you perhaps have a steel soul? 🤔

[hardy tangle]

soul master runback you have to use an elevator iirc

[tight viper]

Slubberlug hell

[vivid belfry]

these things would lowkey be fine if they didn't hide behind foreground props

[fiery burrow]

no fun allowed

[icy crow]

They better add Dusty Dune Lands in Zoteboat...

[atomic sparrow]

tc patches every skip, no fun allowed here

[exotic dome]

yea i know, i didnt add that back when making this map

[fiery burrow]

do they just want to patch every glitch

[ocean quarry]

tc is like the indie nintendo

[marsh ibex]

was genuinely so funny to see

[atomic sparrow]

I mean probably?

[dense heath]

We had more parkour stuff in ss

I HAD TO F8 ATLEAST 10 FUQIN SOUL TWISTERS BEFORE F8ING MASTER😭 😭

[atomic sparrow]

given their track record

[old compass]

not that far, TC wouldn't nuke your house for naming your kid "hornet"

[fiery burrow]

When they ported Mario 3D World to the switch they buffed the players default speed so that players wouldn't engage with cat suit movement tech

[ocean quarry]

if they had the lawyer army they would

[dense heath]

There was a groal skip??

[vivid belfry]

I think the groal skip would have been left in if it was just access to the ducts shortcut and not seeker's soul

[severe steeple]

nah thats just way too much and easy of a skip. You literally get the required item on the way to the skip

[atomic sparrow]

yeah there was but they patched it

[icy crow]

Sorry guys John T. "Cherry" just told me each DLC will be $60

[fiery burrow]

Which is like at least better to the player than just removing it outright like team cherry ig

[dense heath]

Bro 1st sinner made me quit ss for almost a month💔

[hardy tangle]

yeah he sometimes bounced around in the water like a skipping stone and it was really hard to dodge

[opaque sigil]

it should've been left in either way

[void moat]

i am under the bilewater please help me euueeuuu

[dense heath]

It's the only boss I had to try the 30th time

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/groalskip-bilewater-silksong-gif-6731360718331877033

[opaque sigil]

if you know about the groal skip you also know the far more readily available information that groal is actually piss easy there's no real reason to remove it

[tight viper]

Why would anyone wanna skip Groal

[fiery burrow]

MIO skips mog

[dense heath]

BUT NKG

NKG I DIED 70+, TIMES💔 💔 💔 💔

[fiery burrow]

Yes I would love 3 of the dreamer equivalents abilityless

[exotic dome]

mv skip design

[dense heath]

HOW AM I GONNA DO THE PANTHEON😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[opaque sigil]

apparently energyless is possible

[old compass]

sorry to hear you have skill problem

[hardy tangle]

we need voidhome and void variatns of every boss for void palestag

[fiery burrow]

dodge airstalls ftw

[tight viper]

Just don’t die

[void moat]

newgen silksong fools, real ones remember when you could dive under the arena gate to get into bilehaven

[ocean quarry]

first tried ascended nkg, died 84 times to groal/his runback

never died to coral tower btw

[dense heath]

[tight viper]

Y’all remember the cursor?

[severe steeple]

they want the game to be consistent I guess. It was an oversight afterall, its better to patch early than late

[dense heath]

Just buy a house ahh advice💔

[old compass]

if you're blind just open your eyes

[dense heath]

I defeated Grimm on 1zt try

[opaque sigil]

tc just hates fun

[orchid spruce]

how dare the player try to break sequence in a metroidvania

[tight viper]

There’s still plenty of sequence breaks you can do

[severe steeple]

I honestly dont like speedruns that skip way too much

[ocean quarry]

tbh i don't (normally) like sequence breaking in metroidvanias

i can never trust the game to not softlock me

[dense heath]

So I had to learn nkg like a new boss

1st I tried learning how to dodge all his attacks perfectly

Than tried learning how to attack while not getting attacked

THE SPIKES THAG COME FROM DOWN R THE WORST ATTACK IN ALL OF HK EXCEPT SOME😭 😭

[severe steeple]

now groal skip is not that but the other volt pogo skips are

[hardy tangle]

i hate speedruns all o fit

[fiery burrow]

if they don't want the player to have fun they should've just made the game actively more hostile to the player instead of making it more boring

which is at least like uh a little bit better

[orchid spruce]

poptlc doesn't have airstall so it sucks, actually

[opaque sigil]

doesn't have airstall yet

[orchid spruce]

[dense heath]

If nkg didn't have the spikes he would have been ez

💔

[ocean quarry]

nkg is made easier when you understand that you gotta move as little as possible

[exotic dome]

there were a lot of skips in hk why are they patching out every skip in sk

[tight viper]

They patched out plenty of HK skips too

[severe steeple]

people allways overreact when developers change something they claim is the most funnest of fun things in the universe

[heady iron]

Cause they hate fans

[dense heath]

I also had quick focus on me

I healed when he threw bats at me

If we heal the 4th bat goes just above us so it doesn't hit us

[old compass]

guys maybe TC just likes trolling

[heady iron]

That's why they removed coral gorge

[exotic dome]

yea but this time it feels more extreme

[fiery burrow]

I mean skips are pretty fun

[heady iron]

The narrative was just an excuse

[tight viper]

Recency bias

[dense heath]

Fym maybe gng💔

[ocean quarry]

shape of unn is really good against nkg

[old compass]

I say maybe for lore reasons

[tight viper]

Also there’s no fireball or shades in SK

[dense heath]

I never really used unn tbh

[fiery burrow]

the game became frictionless slop engineered to have as much mass appeal as possible when they fixed Sly's hitbox

[tight viper]

So that limits skip potential

[orchid spruce]

i want my mvs to have skips that are easy and can be accidentally done on a first playthrough

[exotic dome]

there are tools and they patched it lol

[dense heath]

Oh

Imma continue 3rd act journey y'all

[severe steeple]

they are but the volt pogo was just a bit too much for tc

[dense heath]

🫡

[tight viper]

Iirc there’s still a tool pogo left in the game

[old compass]

gl

[fiery burrow]

why tf does tc care

[heady iron]

Jack hates us

[exotic dome]

you could fight xero as your first boss with a skip i think lol

[fiery burrow]

if the players find it unfun they can just not do it

[tight viper]

You still can I’m pretty sure

Have to follow the no-spell route for dreamshield

No wait I know you can because I’ve done it lol

Forgot I tried that run once

[severe steeple]

its for speedruns and consistency. Tc loves attention to detail so them forgetting to make one interaction non pogoable is not okay for them

[exotic dome]

i think that wasnt a skip nvm, you just needed to farm for the lantern

[ocean quarry]

does this count breaking out of false knight's arena as "not fighting" him

[exotic dome]

you don't even have to go there

[fiery burrow]

yea but that's dumb and only negatively impacts the quality of the game

[heady iron]

The downpatching in question

[ocean quarry]

i see

[orchid spruce]

just create a speedrun branch for speedruns, like a certain other goated game

[exotic dome]

you need to farm for lantern and go to crystal peak from crossroads and from there you can go to resting grounds

[ocean quarry]

uhhhhh, ultrakill?

or celeste?

[orchid spruce]

yues, ultrakill

[fiery burrow]

ultrakill has a speedrun branch?

[orchid spruce]

certainly

[ocean quarry]

or that alien slug fps game?

[orchid spruce]

its actually 9s

[fiery burrow]

ultrakill speedrunning fun asf though

[severe steeple]

maybe to you but not for everyone. I personally like watching speedruns routes that focus on going as fast as possible instead of having as gamebreaking level skips

[tight viper]

I need to play Ultrakill

I need to make time for it

[vivid belfry]

ultrakill, purely in terms of gameplay, is the best game ever made

[opaque sigil]

it's not like different speedrun categories exist or anything

[fiery burrow]

Yea sure its kinda just a subjective thing

[orchid spruce]

no, not another glaze, i dont have enough money for this

[fiery burrow]

True

[tight viper]

Unfortunately my plate is overflowing and I continue to add other things to it

[ocean quarry]

well the devs deliberately leave in the out-of-bounds clips that are helpful in speedrunning

[atomic sparrow]

we can at least downpatch silksong and hollow knight right

on like steam or smth

[fiery burrow]

I feel as if a recent patch made 7-4 clips more difficult but I might just be washed

[fiery burrow]

will that work for sea of sorrow though

[vivid belfry]

they added a complete fucking jackass way to skip the revolver on first playthrough

[ocean quarry]

wait what

[vivid belfry]

windstate breaks glass and you can do it weaponless

[fiery burrow]

god bless the 4-3 skip I hate that level

[vivid belfry]

by diving into a wall and then walljumping

[atomic sparrow]

time to make some mods and categories then!

[high sparrow]

Hey guys is there a lore reason as to why lady ethereal is the only boss that can get stunt with a talisman?

And not like the other bosses

[ocean quarry]

that's nice

[orchid spruce]

another day another untagged 9s spoiler in #sk-discussion

[severe steeple]

at that point might aswell just make a mod that enables pogoing off of all tools

[orchid spruce]

im actually losing it

[fiery burrow]

my 4-3 hate is an anomaly cuz its kinda fun but I think its because its the only 'kinda fun' level in the game

[orchid spruce]

guys hold me back

[heady iron]

Crack ship LE and Crazy Dave

Cause both are CRAAAAAZY

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-fight-me-angry-get-out-gif-4902016621984269311

[fiery burrow]

windstate looks so cool

I can't get much gameplay usage out of it but it looks cool asf

[tight viper]

Grindle and Eternal Emilitia

[vivid belfry]

when I read the patch notes I was like "that's cool, doesn't seem super impactful though"

it is super impactful

because I rocket jump all the time

[atomic sparrow]

just what happens when you have a big server and no enforcing of this kind of stuff

[high sparrow]

Guys whats going on with begotten?

[opaque sigil]

I mean that's just not a rule

[surreal halo]

Brooklyn 99?

[orchid spruce]

me? the problem is me?

[heady iron]

mfs acting like nine sols is outer wilds

[atomic sparrow]

right

[orchid spruce]

nine sols is outer wilds

[high sparrow]

I just asked a simple question man💔

[ocean quarry]

who up outing their wilds

[old compass]

when in reality it's just another tool furry uses to increase their population and influence don't be fooled by furry propaganda

[heady iron]

More furries mean more nuclear engineers

[severe steeple]

how dare people recommend good games

[high sparrow]

I just wanted to know why she get stunted and not like the other bosses

[heady iron]

That's definitely how it works

[vivid belfry]

people act like knowing the name of 9S's final boss is a huge spoiler when it's incredibly obvious the entire time

[ocean quarry]

pseudoregalia:

[fiery burrow]

That patch was kinda peak ngl I love the new rocket ride and double jump

[high sparrow]

Wow is no one gonna answer my question

[old compass]

I have never seen furry propaganda so obvious

[tight viper]

There’s a lore reason but I don’t know it

[high sparrow]

Oh there is? Whats the reason?

[vivid belfry]

I haven't found any real use for the double jump but the new rocket mounting tech and diving off rockets are both insane

[fiery burrow]

I love outer wilds its my fav game but if you've never played it the "don't look anything up" stuff can sound very funny

[ancient mortar]

Isnt nine sols final boss ||visible in the first 5 minutes||

[opaque sigil]

that's what I'm sayin

[high sparrow]

I almost clicked on it,you had me there

[ocean quarry]

mario's cat suit in 3d world:

[opaque sigil]

not only that they're super obviously the final boss

[fiery burrow]

Its kinda fun to keep the momentum from a nuke going

[severe steeple]

I guess, I allways played my games as blind as possible anyway

[fiery burrow]

Not super practical but I also use it a bit in cyber grind just for fun

[high sparrow]

When you really think abouit,were all furry by default

[tight viper]

Iirc the final boss is ||Asriel Dreemurr, the true form of Flowey||

[vivid belfry]

fair, I don't really ultraboost but I can see the appeal in extending that

[orchid spruce]

is ||lady ethereal|| the final boss, also he spoiled one of the fight's gimmick

[high sparrow]

Iike were animals too

[ocean quarry]

what double jump

[high sparrow]

So basicly where furries by nature

[heady iron]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9K-Mcz16mGCLy5ZY34ZB9JS8aD_LfKWNQIcXTNmMJNk/https/media.tenor.com/TkdNCbILpd0AAAPo/nine-sols-eigong.mp4

[orchid spruce]

it's just annoying

[fiery burrow]

knuckleblaster a cannonball

[atomic sparrow]

I've been called someone with no basic respect because I forgot to spoiler tag it 💔

[fiery burrow]

gives a bit of height

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-gif-5343774930412139613

[old compass]

ayo that game is only 4 dollars in my region, maybe I should intake furry propaganda time to time

[vivid belfry]

while keeping all horizontal momentum

[high sparrow]

Anyways hornet should have the ability to wield a double sword..that be cool

[atomic sparrow]

maybe in a dlc

[tight viper]

Hornet should be given an Energy Sword

[exotic dome]

nine sols spoilers ||it's a game where you use your hands to play it||

[heady iron]

5000 more sprites

[opaque sigil]

hornet should get a monado

[old compass]

I don't get how duel wielding works mechanically

[tight viper]

Just use your brain, telekinesis

If I can do it, anyone can

[ocean quarry]

bruh does hornet even have arms

[atomic sparrow]

woah man spoilers!!!!!!!!!

[heady iron]

I legit don't know how to dual wield in nightreign on controller

[fiery burrow]

Hornet should drink flea brew to extend her dual needle demon mode indefinitely

[old compass]

well they're uh, idk how her stickman biology works

[opaque sigil]

she lost them in the war

[tight viper]

This isn’t a car meet there aren’t any spoilers here

Just bland Toyota Rav-4s and whatnot

[high sparrow]

Ofc she does,i mean how do you think she clings onto walls

[atomic sparrow]

legs

[ocean quarry]

she has like six legs

she's a spider ffs

[tight viper]

She just does

[leaden delta]

wats the double jump

am I dumb

[vivid belfry]

knuckleblaster downwards on an SRS ball

tech added in a fraud hotfix

[remote ibex]

so in this area called mount fay theres a platforming section and you get wings at the end that let you double jump hope this helps

[leaden delta]

Oh yea that shit

I forgot it existed

is cool but like

Just rocket ride…..

[vivid belfry]

it's good for extending distance on an ultraboost

and, funnily, rocket dives, which are similarly fast

[leaden delta]

sry im like thinking abt cg

[vivid belfry]

fair

imagine getting hit with the fucking insurrectionist hitbox pinch that blasts you into infinity and then double jumping to go even further

[fiery burrow]

the what

[leaden delta]

soooo true

[fiery burrow]

I've only had hideous masses sending me like a bit off the arena

[vivid belfry]

yeah they do it too, although I haven't really had problems with it recently so maybe it got patched

one time though, I got shot so far that I ran out of rocket fuel and had to get back to the arena by repeatedly jumping off rockets with 0 airtime

[odd hull]

Helo

[orchid spruce]

ello

[odd hull]

How we are tonight

[orchid spruce]

we gud

[odd hull]

Nice

[high sparrow]

She half wyrm btw dont forget that🤓,but yeah youre not wrong

[wind mulch]

spyrm

[exotic dome]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jack-black-opening-book

[high sparrow]

Anyways yeah that boss was soo good and the music and her backstory ,only took me like three times but man it was peak

I put her in like numbre three after jiquan and yanlao

And kaufu

[kind tide]

Erm, FELLAS?

[tidal needle]

Meow

[hardy crow]

Guys whats the strat for || beating GMS while cursed ? ||
Seems like aquiring all masks before being || cursed || is the idea
Does upgrading needle dmg counts ?

[remote ibex]

yeah

needle dmg and masks are all that matter iirc

and then just use skill

getting an odd amount of masks is best

unless you think youll get hit by a grab which hopefully not

[stable mica]

do the most base upgrade as much as possible

[old compass]

just get the 2nd needle upgrade and 2 masks

[dusk oxide]

Silksong

[fathom echo]

When is SOS again?

[remote ibex]

idk

sometime in the next 10 months possibly

[stable belfry]

what are requirements for slyphsong? does hunter crest count? does the silk skill slot count?

[regal isle]

tomorrow

[lavish stratus]

Hunter crest does not count.

[stable belfry]

what about the extra slots that u add on hunters crest

[lavish stratus]

They don't count.

Rewarding opening up slots on non-hunter crests by upgrading the hunter's crest, bravo Team Cherry.

[hardy crow]

No silk spool, doesnt Work

[stable belfry]

but silk skill slots count right

[cerulean sable]

they should update

her

or them

[lavish stratus]

No.

[cerulean sable]

sorry im not sure

[lavish stratus]

Memory lockets are terrible.

[cerulean sable]

but they should update them to instead open up new upgrades based on your memory locket on total, not the one youve used

[stable belfry]

okay so i know taht u can get sylphsong before act 3 but what if i spent 3 memory lockets on hunters crest, is there still enough memory lockets left?

[lavish stratus]

No, I don't think so.

Well I'm not sure

[stable belfry]

yeah allg

[remote ibex]

i think its a way of making you want to try out hunter crest again once youve tried out other crests

while also making sure it doesnt fall behind in strength compared to the other crests

[stable mica]

i mean mask and needle

and uh spam clawline

[lavish apex]

hunter memory lockets not counting towards eva's goals is so fuckin stupid

[odd hull]

lol

[smoky sage]

Yo, hop over to hk dicussion, there is a debate about whather some JJK (don't know him) chericter can beat the Shade Loard

[odd hull]

TC did so many dumb decisions with sk

[cerulean sable]

yeah like making straightpin not do 2x damage against fliers

[severe steeple]

love zaza

[odd hull]

why

[real leaf]

silkson

[stable mica]

no

[severe steeple]

zaza tool dlc + zaza pet dlc + zote appearance dlc

dlc will turn this game from a 10/10 into a better 10/10

[silk monolith]

pet dlc and i get to keep a flea at all times

[old compass]

bringing your pet into danger is animal abuse

[silk monolith]

it does nothing, js there for emotional support

[old compass]

[severe steeple]

dies to void

[silk monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/caesar-caesar-jojo-jojo-rrddiinn48-anime-gif-2150180786404107339

[stable mica]

IGN: still 9/10 maybe lets bump it up to 9.01/10

[severe steeple]

cant wait for sos to turn the top right side of pharloom into less of a shithole

[stable mica]

evil

[silk monolith]

oh yeah ign gave it a 9 out of 10?

[stable mica]

im pretty sure

[silk monolith]

and they gave mouse detective a 6 cause its got too much cheese references

[odd hull]

Shithole why

[zinc needle]

am i allowed to share a video i made i just wanna show off me beating bosses with no upgrades

[severe steeple]

its the citadel wasteyard biomes

[odd hull]

Top right you mean putrified ducts or bilewater too?

[stable mica]

lol

[odd hull]

Yeah

[severe steeple]

everything above greymoor

[zinc needle]

hype!

[stable mica]

fleas gonna turn pale lake into sheet lake

[silk monolith]

was it always called bilewater or did that happen only after exhaust organ

[odd hull]

It's heaven

[silk monolith]

was it called like clearwater before

[odd hull]

My beautiful São Paulo in Silksong

[zinc needle]

Bosses beat with 0 upgrades (no dash, wall climb, double jump, mask upgrades, nail upgrades, or tools)
https://youtu.be/9v31E6r4w1E - first sinner
https://youtu.be/wHKiKJugeh4 - duo conchfly
https://youtu.be/Va2TNuAKSXo - raging conchfly

[silk monolith]

putrified ducts basically the sewer system for the citadgel

[odd hull]

Spoilers are allowed, dw about tags

[zinc needle]

oh hype

[severe steeple]

what if plasmified zango drops the keys to the submarine

genius

[silk monolith]

what if plasmified zango died a painful death

[odd hull]

In this chat only okay

[ancient mortar]

you can do this

to him

[silk monolith]

its not painful enough

[ancient mortar]

Did you do it with the syringe?

[silk monolith]

yes

[ancient mortar]

i think thats pretty brutal, he also explodes. Pretend hes afraid of needles, if that helps.

[odd hull]

Why

[ancient mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1476037178600460349/Shakra_ladder.gif

[silk monolith]

cause i dont like him

[crisp heron]

sometimes i wish i could throw bricks at peanut butter then realise thats bad and play unpacking to calm down

[silk monolith]

😭

[zinc needle]

how do u have 212%???

[odd hull]

Slop

[severe steeple]

have you tried throwing peanut butter at bricks

[ancient mortar]

?

[crisp heron]

212% silksong 341% holloy knight 1% cuphead

[odd hull]

100% from silksong + 112% from hk

[crisp heron]

never.

[zinc needle]

oh makes senze

[zinc needle]

cuphead is so fire i fw that game heavy

[odd hull]

Shakra

[ancient mortar]

i always enjoyed the fight

especially when using clawline heavily

shes just a simpler seth

[crisp heron]

i did the whole game deathless the other dag

didnt use any supers or charms other than broken relic and never pressed retry or quit to map

[orchid spruce]

is cuphead good

[silk monolith]

cuphead is peak

[ancient mortar]

Its pretty beloved

[severe steeple]

difficult

[silk monolith]

js listen to floral fury

[crisp heron]

extremely

[odd hull]

I played cuphead once, at 3fps

[orchid spruce]

i really need a break from metroidvanias

[crisp heron]

overrated listen to clip joint calamity instead

[orchid spruce]

but i still want good bosses

cuphead might be it

[silk monolith]

a brawl is surely brewing

[ancient mortar]

Play everhood

[severe steeple]

it is still a bossrush though

[crisp heron]

this match will get red hot

its on!!

[silk monolith]

now go!

[orchid spruce]

i'm burned out on metroidvanias

[crisp heron]

play metroid then

[orchid spruce]

[odd hull]

Good for ya. I don't want to be mean rn so won't be saying much

[crisp heron]

or castlevania

[odd hull]

I was about to say

[severe steeple]

play something wacky

[crisp heron]

play unpacking

[severe steeple]

no

[orchid spruce]

cuphead

[ancient mortar]

i mean go ahead if you disagree, im interested to hear the critique

[crisp heron]

genuinely play unpacking its so good and cozy

[silk monolith]

unpacking what

[orchid spruce]

i'm a shallow button smasher who only wants bosses

[crisp heron]

just unpacking

[silk monolith]

cuphead

[orchid spruce]

so a deep compelling game such as unpacking won't be able to hold my attenton

yeah, i know, cuphead

[crisp heron]

its not deep and compelling its pretty much purely gameplay genuienly no time spent not playing

[severe steeple]

I have played so many different games yet im still constantly searching for games to play.

[crisp heron]

yeah it has a story but like

its all gameplay

[orchid spruce]

i just want boss rushes now

i'm tired of gameplay

who could imagine playing like 8 metroidvanias back to back would burn me out

[crisp heron]

carl could imagine that

[severe steeple]

cuphead bosses tear me apart. I didnt expect them to be as difficult as they are

[orchid spruce]

GOOODDD

[severe steeple]

its cuz you only got 3 hp

[orchid spruce]

tear me apart

humble me

[crisp heron]

hardest cuphead boss is genuinely rumor honeybottoms the others are all alr

[silk monolith]

jarvis play carnival kerfuffle

[orchid spruce]

are the bosses good though

[crisp heron]

genuinely in my deathless run rumor honeybottoms was the hardest

[zinc needle]

dude my hardest one was that goddam plane fight with the robot dude

[orchid spruce]

what's the best boss's egg ratio

[crisp heron]

90% of them very

[crisp heron]

hes so fun dude

[zinc needle]

nah bro i hate that fight sm 😭

[severe steeple]

first phase worst phase

[zinc needle]

i was genuinly stuck for a week

[silk monolith]

light work no reaction

[crisp heron]

first phase is so easy if you take out the laser first then use bombs to kill both the middle and bottom at around the same time

[orchid spruce]

what is the best cuphead boss's egg ratio?

[crisp heron]

then destriy the heart and super the head in the 2nd phase to end the phase almost instantly

[silk monolith]

i cant do that lmao i always go in order top to bottom

[crisp heron]

whats an egg ratio

[severe steeple]

uhm the egg bird

[crisp heron]

fuck wally warbles

[severe steeple]

hardest boss

[orchid spruce]

i'm moreso asking peanut butter

[crisp heron]

i used to think that too

[orchid spruce]

only they've played egg

[crisp heron]

sniff ask me im the cuphead pro ..

[silk monolith]

egg yeah uh its close some are easy asl tho

the first isle its easy

[orchid spruce]

like, in terms of quality not difficulty

but i assume they're very good then

[silk monolith]

quality its up there dude all of them

[orchid spruce]

huh, equal to egg?

[silk monolith]

yes

[orchid spruce]

[severe steeple]

cuphead took hollow knight spotlight in 2017

[silk monolith]

its so polished its beautiful

[orchid spruce]

what is this legendary boss that can match egg??

[silk monolith]

the music the fight its js peak

[orchid spruce]

i'm hyping myself up

[silk monolith]

king dice is such a great concept of a boss fight

[orchid spruce]

King Dice?

ok, mr.king dice, you better be VERY good

[silk monolith]

IIIM MR KING DICE IM THE GAMEST IN THE LAND

[orchid spruce]

[severe steeple]

king dice but its all monkey boss

[silk monolith]

lmaoo

[errant rune]

Apparently Charged Hunter attacks can damage those bell head enemies in the Deep Docks, those enemies that are immune to normal needle slashes from above

[orchid spruce]

i have to remap the controls to nine sols controls

huh, you can't... map to mouse

[severe steeple]

getting over it

wasd + k & l

thats what I often use for games without mouse

[odd hull]

Oh alr
I dislike bosses that teleport too much — it doesn't feel like constant pressure, but more like trying to hit a mosquito yk. Soul Tyrant also kinda does this, but atleast he has interesting & diverse enough moves, stays on the screen for more than 1s.

All of her attacks are boring, same-y and disappointing (I had high hopes for a character so prevalent..). The rings don't have a "gotcha" moment, like Karmelita's Boomerang catching you during your jump to dodge - or even overlap with other attacks like First Sinner does. She has fakeout teleports, but it doesn't matter much ?? there isn't a risk for going after her or staying still.

She's at the bottom of the list for me, along side with zango and stuff

[orchid spruce]

the default controls for cuphead suck, wow

[severe steeple]

I hated Shakra first playthrough now second playthrough I kinda understood her moves and now shes just kinda uh more of an endurance test not bad but not really good

[severe steeple]

its a controller developed games besides every game has bad default controls for some reason

[orchid spruce]

i found a good keybind

[silk monolith]

idk lmao i always js use the default keybinds every game

[ancient mortar]

Teleporting bosses are pretty annoying at first, but once you learn to clawline aggressively i think they become quite enjoyable, i agree shakras moveset is too simplistic largely, however i still find the challenge of fighting her aggressively and keeping up with her airborne motion pretty enjoyable, especially the eureka moment i had learning that you can parry her thrown rings and hit her with the same clawline. learning to nohit her made me appreciate the fight a good bit, though id still say seth vastly improved on and perfected the style of fight.

[severe steeple]

dont need to do all that to fight these bosses

[ancient mortar]

When you die in one hit you kinda have to try and optimize the fight to end it earlier

[odd hull]

Seth really is goated

[orchid spruce]

heh, i got a B

how do i skip to the goated bosses

[severe steeple]

goopy is goated wdym

[ancient mortar]

I really just see seth as a better and more difficult shakra fight, their movesets are extrememly similar

[orchid spruce]

i got run and gun or some shit

[severe steeple]

those are normal levels and theres only a couple of those

[crisp heron]

Im spoopycelerc aaawhrh ow

[orchid spruce]

ayo potato boss

[graceful oyster]

BWB did you hear about the Belltower

[ancient mortar]

no

[orchid spruce]

that was cool

B-

[graceful oyster]

I had a brief chat with Nicolas Gueguen, made an offhand joke about making a 20 minute version of the Belltower soundtrack, and then carried on with the convo and went to bed afterwards. Woke up and saw he made a ~9 minute long edit of Belltower with new layers and whatnot

It's insane

[orchid spruce]

???

[ancient mortar]

lol nice

[graceful oyster]

He just made new music because I joked about it

[orchid spruce]

the mio dev?

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[orchid spruce]

wa

[ancient mortar]

its always cool to be able to talk with the dev of a game.

[graceful oyster]

Yeah and it's even cooler when the dev makes something for you!!!

Like what

[ancient mortar]

yeah thats pretty awesome

[graceful oyster]

What do you mean you just whipped up 7 and a half minutes of Mio soundtrack

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[odd hull]

I see. That's the impression I generally get — playing more aggressively agaisnt her, like you do, makes the fight better. I can understand, yes
I just really really can't feel any desire to fight her ever again. Like I said, it's on the same boring level as Zango— and sure, you probably can make his fight fun in someway, but do you wanna spend time on him?? She doesn't hit my standards

[wind gate]

Playing silksong on the wii mario kart wheel controller

[ancient mortar]

honestly never bothered nohitting zango. to me shakras up there on one of my more enjoyable nohits

But definitely doesnt hit near my s tier

Which i think was karm, widow, seth, ll, and a few others i forget

maybe judge, not sure how high she was

the only fights i didn't enjoy for that run were watcher at the edge, pinstress and court of craws

[sharp slate]

shakra and enjoyable no hit is not what i expected in the same sentence