sk-discussion

[exotic cedar]

Did 4bc first try after

[glossy nebula]

I will resub to netflix to play it this month

And maybe watch a bit of avatar tlab

[silk monolith]

lmao js wait for it to go on sale it is low cost

[silk monolith]

avatar is on netflix?

[glossy nebula]

The dlcs also

[glossy nebula]

Yes. There is where I do my rewatches

[silk monolith]

nice nice

i thought it was on peacock

[olive dune]

I defeated first sinner on my 1st ever attempt xd

[vale whale]

I AM PISSMAN

[twin summit]

i am airman

[umbral ether]

dead cells is on netflix?

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[solar eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831582059704877077/1386458876425015306/PrRwhFpJ.gif

[cerulean sable]

hypothetically if Hornet got her horns stuck deep in the terrain

would she be able to pull herself out

[whole moon]

Im wondering that too

[sharp slate]

FUCK SHAKRA

i swear if this boss is in godhome im gonna hard tilt

god forbid i jump in a fight

sending to someone else silksong stuff (for anyone viewing i failed at trying to cross stitch)

[old compass]

just parry her bruh

[sharp slate]

i dont like it, feels less consistent, i guess i wouldnt have to deal with tele bullshit

this rarely ever happens but when it does it eats my soul

[glossy nebula]

Shaman

[sharp slate]

Indeed the more I play with it the more I hate the pogo and dash slash

Pogo just feels like it adds so much delay

Otherwise insanely fun crest

[whole moon]

Shakras boss fight is just difficult af

[sharp slate]

The teleports are just enraging me, I could make a short montage of teleport trauma lol

Pale stag > Shakra

[whole moon]

So annoying

[exotic cedar]

This boss fight is like fighting a mosquito

[exotic cedar]

I don't like this attack

[sharp slate]

Its really annoying to deal with especially if she is high up

I still dont know how to fully deal with nyleths spit attack

Nyleth would be scariest act 3 boss for hitless if trobbio2 didnt exist

[exotic cedar]

imagine fighting nyleth aggresively and then she just decides to do that attack, now you have to stick to the wall and try to dodge it

It doesn't really feel fun to dodge too

[orchid spruce]

i just do the silk circle for that one

[remote ibex]

from that clip it does seem like you can be directly above her and still pogo without getting hit but yeah i dont like that attack. she has a lot of area denial attacks so im confused on what the intended way to fight her is

[hybrid flare]

Iirc you can dodge it by hopping onto and off the wall

Thats how i did my no-hit

[exotic cedar]

I actually havent thought of that

[remote ibex]

yeah its not that hard to avoid its just annoying cause youre kinda forced to stay back for a pretty long itme

[orchid spruce]

huh she spits only three per wave

i swear i remember she spits 100 of them

[exotic cedar]

Spit 8 billion polen orbs

[orchid spruce]

Collect 8 billion polen orbs

[hybrid flare]

You coulda drifter's and faydown down there

[remote ibex]

watching this clip i realise they have reallyyyy fricking weird trajectories too. most of them go down like they have gravity but some go down a bit and then turn and curve upwards

[silk monolith]

collect 9 billion rosaries

[orchid spruce]

they home slightly into you iirc

[hybrid flare]

ye

[orchid spruce]

[hybrid flare]

Fuck it im gonna no-hit every skong boss before my dad buys me ds3

[silk monolith]

its like the 2nd phase flame father spits out them fireballs

[sharp slate]

Fair, tbh nerves really got best of me as well, was gonna cross stitch fucked up inputs

[hybrid flare]

What's the best mod to do refights?

[remote ibex]

one of them curved away so that doesnt seem like homing on that one at least

[sharp slate]

I eas hitless till that point on nyleth

[silk monolith]

pantheon of pharloom gotta be a mod

[sharp slate]

Only a few bosses left 😭

[remote ibex]

unless its trying to predict your movement but it cant change once its like halfway across or something?

[hybrid flare]

Ye but for single boss refights

[silk monolith]

idk i dont download mods

[remote ibex]

i seriously dont get how nyleth is meant to be fought

[orchid spruce]

I may join doing silksong pantheons simply because I'm in a boss drought

[silk monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[sharp slate]

Pantheon of pharloom changes health but you can do single fights, Godhome mod for none changed health fights

[orchid spruce]

Why are there no more good bosses

[remote ibex]

fuck you right

[sharp slate]

Yea I dont completely understand the pattern either

[sharp slate]

Its fun

[silk monolith]

i like quick sling more than pouch so js swap those

[remote ibex]

i dont think id wanna do all bosses hitless without a proper non mod implementation

[sharp slate]

I cant wait till official godhome, gonna be more hitless activity which would be amazing

Its sooo fun to talk about

[orchid spruce]

What kind of pantheon are you hitlessing in

[hybrid flare]

Cuz no mone

[sharp slate]

That's fair

[remote ibex]

i also wonder how they'll balance tools for a pantheon or hall of gods type thing since it seems pretty ass to make them cost shards there but also so many bosses can just be obliterated in two seconds especially if you dont care about shell shard costs since no long term detriment

[hybrid flare]

is the mod pantheon of pharloom?

[orchid spruce]

Supreme egg is coming soon

[sharp slate]

I did all the pantheons from pan of pharloom mod

[orchid spruce]

[hybrid flare]

Do you download it through any mod manager or just rawdog the files

[sharp slate]

The one in using yes

I did mod manager but I think its on nexus if you want to do it manually

[hybrid flare]

which mod manager

[remote ibex]

cant wait to get hit to last judge 50 times in r7 because of her randomly leaping forward at me

[sharp slate]

Im on thunderstore because im lazy to switch, its probably on cogfly

Main reason im doing pantheon mod so much as well is i want to be the first one to do the official godhome hitless

[remote ibex]

surely someone has done hitless pantheon mod

[sharp slate]

Unnamed and I have

[remote ibex]

peak

[hybrid flare]

im coming for you

[sharp slate]

Can't tell if anyone in China has

[remote ibex]

red tools used?

[orchid spruce]

I just hope the silksong pantheons ignore the slop bosses

[hybrid flare]

They wont

But in sk there are more fun fights sooo

[orchid spruce]

If they are included, I am going to burn down someone's house (mine)

[lavish apex]

nine sols is beating my ass

[remote ibex]

PARRY IT

[lavish apex]

i think i'm bad at parryslop

[orchid spruce]

PARRY IT

[sharp slate]

I used wanderer crest flintslate, volt film, sawtooth, longclaw, Sharpdart, and yellows.

Unnamed used huhter crest and varied their build between sections

[orchid spruce]

where are you at rn bleb

the first boss?

[remote ibex]

surprised hunter isnt the standard option

[sharp slate]

Im curious about this as well you cant judt give unlimited shell shards imo but like you said limited is ass

[lavish apex]

i think what i just beat was a miniboss?

[orchid spruce]

you still haven't met the first boss?

[sharp slate]

I just hate the pogo, feels less conssitent

[orchid spruce]

good luck then (you'll need it)

[sharp slate]

Hunter is likely going to be the standard

[remote ibex]

i think for a pantheon having like tools regenerate between boss fights but having like a small amount of per rest zone or being limited to a certain amount per section is fine

[lavish apex]

if the ||celestial sentinel guy|| is not the first boss then i haven't

[remote ibex]

like instead of lifeblood cocoons its like 200 shards or something

[hybrid flare]

the 1st boss is much easier

[orchid spruce]

^

[sharp slate]

Tbh if they just add a cooldown to tool spam. I think it solves shell shards issue

[lavish apex]

really?

[orchid spruce]

nine sols minibosses are actually brutal

[hybrid flare]

lwk celestial sentinels dont have the right to be this juiced

[sharp slate]

This could work as well that's neat

[orchid spruce]

the more optional they are, the more brutal

[remote ibex]

i remember the hardest boss in ninesols except final boss was a miniboss i found like 1/6th into the game that just kicked my ass for like an hour

[orchid spruce]

oh wait, ||celestial sentinel||

[silk monolith]

the guy that manifests a shadow clone thing i hate that guy

[lavish apex]

yeah that guy had me down for a solid half hour

[orchid spruce]

that miniboss is actually a tutorial, nvm

[sharp slate]

Additionally I use wanderer in hitless because if I miss a hunter pogo I feel like there is no recovery where wanderer i can wings or drift out of it

[silk monolith]

you can wings out of a hunter pogo too

[orchid spruce]

i mistook it for another miniboss

[remote ibex]

sharpdart instead of parry or any other high damage thing is interesting

[lavish apex]

uh oh

[sharp slate]

Yea but it feels like more of s commitment

[graceful cairn]

average nine sols 😭

[remote ibex]

oh yeah true

[hybrid flare]

im using cogfly rn and it doesnt work

[orchid spruce]

||that miniboss is the tutorial for the first boss||

[remote ibex]

it takes you down really fast so not rly unless you missed it by being too high up

[silk monolith]

lowk dont remember most of the bosses icl

[sharp slate]

Cross stitch is very strongh for this, but sadly pantheon mod has mini arenas so sharpdart actually cooks

[remote ibex]

interesting

theres startup frames on cross stitch right?

[sharp slate]

Crawfather is the only reason Unnamed doesnt use cross stitch in one of the segments funny enough

And that segment has trobbio2 as well so ooof

[sharp slate]

It feels pretty instant, I have no clue tbh

[remote ibex]

lmao theres was a tiny speck of black on my screen and it overlayed perfectly with the cat's eye in your pfp and it made it look like long and wonky i was so confused

[sharp slate]

Lol

I'm going to slowly try to convert this chat into hitless chat eventually

[remote ibex]

idk i feel like ive pressed it and it consumed silk but i still took damage instead of parrying

[neat remnant]

cringe

[remote ibex]

i cant actually think of a scenario in my head of that happening though so maybe im fabricating memories or something

[orchid spruce]

"cringe" take note ???

[sharp slate]

Genio and I were chatting about hitless the other day and it was great though they are only on second pantheon/symphony maniac changes crests

[graceful cairn]

so true

[orchid spruce]

this channel was held together by illu having random interests

now we actually have to actually talk about silksong smh

[sharp slate]

Leon join silksong hitless stuff leave hk

[remote ibex]

this channel is held together by me entering it once every few months for a couple days then leaving again

[hybrid flare]

yall why doesnt cogfly mod manager work

[graceful cairn]

real

[sharp slate]

Damn maybe thunderstore is meta, no clue tbh

[orchid spruce]

helloooo

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-morgan-freeman-true-gif-14543545972329601863

[orchid spruce]

have you seen the nine sols 2nd anniversary animated short

[sharp slate]

Im just obsessed with new people doing hitless now because there's so many strats

[graceful cairn]

nope

i should find that...

[sharp slate]

Silkskills are SOOOO versatile in hitless

[broken seal]

LMAO

[sharp slate]

Fsct that unnamed runs spear nails and cross stitch across the run

[orchid spruce]

nine sols

[sharp slate]

And i run sharpdart

[remote ibex]

you think shaman crest is any good for hitless? it seems pretty good for the range and the binding downside not mattering

and the damage

[graceful cairn]

what is this 😭

[broken seal]

"Habe you seen the slop slop 2nd anniversary animated slop?"

[orchid spruce]

watch the animated short

[broken seal]

it's VERY good, yes

[neat remnant]

how about no

to both

[sharp slate]

I think best 3 for hitless are hunter, shaman, and wanderer

[graceful cairn]

im scared now

[neat remnant]

[remote ibex]

reaper will rise up

[sharp slate]

They all feel really good so far

I haven't tested repesr witch or beast yet but I feel like they are gonna be horrible

[remote ibex]

is architect any good? i dont think ive even used it at all in silksong ive just seen others use it

[orchid spruce]

irrelevant for you but i have reasons to believe nine sols next big modded boss is coming on the 2nd anniversary

[broken seal]

Yes

[sharp slate]

I think witch will be the worst crest for hitless funny enough

[orchid spruce]

which i am super hyped about

[remote ibex]

damn really?

[orchid spruce]

i am gonna spend days on that modded boss (if its real, please be real)

[sharp slate]

Honestly 0 clue on architect kinda forgot it existed

[orchid spruce]

suprong be blessed upon us

[sharp slate]

Maybe its because I use neutral swings so much, but I just feel like witch doesnt have moveset to deal with some bosses

[graceful cairn]

im too scared to even touch nine sols modding I feel itll ruin the specialness of the game for me

[remote ibex]

just did a whole run with witch and was pretty disappointed with it the whole time other than the forward attack range. switched to shaman when i got to act 3 and wow it was so much better

[sharp slate]

Witch lives and dies off pogo and dash attack

[remote ibex]

the damage on the bind is pretty cool

[orchid spruce]

its all fine, 99.9% of people never mod the game

i just really love nine sols combat so i modded for more

[civic island]

GUYS

[graceful cairn]

glad to be one of them ❤️‍🩹

[sharp slate]

I think beast is gonna be pretty close to witch though imo

[civic island]

NINE SOLS ON DISCOUNT

LIKE WHAT

[orchid spruce]

yues, 60% off

[graceful cairn]

still havent done nine sols true ending lmao p2ce's release distracted me

[orchid spruce]

come join the cult

[sharp slate]

Beast feels solid moveset wise but feels bad for silk management

[orchid spruce]

[silk monolith]

we finally got a new joke in the jojo community 😭

[remote ibex]

my ass could NEVER do nyleth with beast crest

[sharp slate]

I feel like you dont always get refunded on you silk for beast in psntheons which can be a problem

[silk monolith]

its so fun you should try it

[exotic cedar]

Is there any other popular mods that isnt a skin mod/boss mod

[harsh yarrow]

@opaque sigil @fiery burrow

[sharp slate]

Yea, its probsbly gonna be clawline hit clawling run away repeat

[hybrid flare]

Bro thunderstore doesnt fucking work either

[orchid spruce]

yes, challenge mod boss

which isn't a boss mod as its name says

[silk monolith]

theres like that qol mod no?

[sharp slate]

Weird as hell

[remote ibex]

had no idea this happens

[exotic cedar]

I have never checked nine sols mods

[orchid spruce]

there is also a Ng+ save

[neat dune]

crest slop vs hunter crest

[exotic cedar]

Cool

[orchid spruce]

i loved playing with ng+ and nerf myself to spam ucs

[hybrid flare]

What do i need aside from bepinEX

[orchid spruce]

it was fun

[silk monolith]

9sols mods oh nah nvm im never playing that again

[sharp slate]

Idk which crest im gonna try after shaman hitless

[graceful cairn]

W playstyle

[civic island]

YESSSSSSSE

[remote ibex]

crestslop vs clip out of bounds from the slab with melee moveset and use that for everything

[timid sky]

I got bored of nine sols after finishing normal ending

[silk monolith]

beast

[sharp slate]

I was thinking between beast and witch tbh

[neat dune]

the two times i’ve checked this server today its been nine sols

[exotic cedar]

I have r2modman on my laptop so maybe ill look at nine sols mods

[orchid spruce]

the real peak is in the true ending, but it's alright to drop if you don't enjoy it

[graceful cairn]

fair enough. collectables kinda suck to get because the map design is not the greatest

[orchid spruce]

become a pronger

[sharp slate]

This crest discussion is actually interesting cause its hitless stuff

[silk monolith]

lowk hornet would low diff 9sols verse

[harsh yarrow]

TC disabled it (lazily)
I enabled it, and made it work properly
It's spit can eat 5 notches of Silk

[exotic cedar]

I tried to fight egg like 2 days ago and holy heng im washed

[silk monolith]

who tf is egg

[remote ibex]

hell no the parry costing silk would make half the stuff undodgeable

[exotic cedar]

Final boss of nine sols

[silk monolith]

oh lmaooo

[graceful cairn]

yeah this is why i cant come back to the game anymore

[silk monolith]

didnt know they call her that

[graceful cairn]

ill be so rusty

[exotic cedar]

People here call her egg/eggnog

[sharp slate]

Anyways nine sols killed hitless discussion so I need to sleep anyway

[graceful cairn]

eggnog ❤️

[remote ibex]

holy crap i had no idea the sprint attack on witch crest did that much i just three shot one of those top of citadel guys

[civic island]

Yeah

Witch crest for the win

[silk monolith]

nah itd be so easy

[sharp slate]

Yea its the main damage of the crest

[remote ibex]

i was just BINDING in everythings face

[sharp slate]

Im honestly worried about witch crest and shakra

[silk monolith]

jarvis pull up the witch nuke

[orchid spruce]

silksong if it was good

[remote ibex]

i dont like doing sprint attacks cause i feel like a lot of bosses just move forward sometimes

[graceful cairn]

ooh i GOTTA try this

[civic island]

Sure

[sharp slate]

Yea, definetly feels weird sometimes, its scary for hitless imo

[civic island]

You bounce back with most of them

[orchid spruce]

what's the pantheon mod's name, there are tons of them

like, the good one

[sharp slate]

But I think dash attackinto clawlinfwill be mandatory for withc hitless stuff

[sharp slate]

Pantheon of Pharloom

[orchid spruce]

okiedokie

[sharp slate]

That's the good one imo

[civic island]

City of steel

[graceful cairn]

pantheon of skibidi toilet

[sharp slate]

Some of the boss health needs to be tweaked but its pretty solid

[orchid spruce]

there's only one mod with the word pantheon in its name

[civic island]

Leave

[sharp slate]

Second Sentinel has a but too much health...

[orchid spruce]

https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/554

[graceful cairn]

bros on nexus

[orchid spruce]

[remote ibex]

i kinda hope they dont make it alllll bosses for an actual pantheon of pharloom

a lot of refights like in hk were annoying to go through every time

[graceful cairn]

nooo i need my gurr the outcast

[civic island]

He chill

[sharp slate]

It might not be on nexus

[remote ibex]

i more mean stuff like lace 1

[sharp slate]

https://thunderstore.io/c/hollow-knight-silksong/p/momochi003/Pantheon_Of_Pharloom/

I swear it used to be

[remote ibex]

like how they had false knight and failed champion as if false knight could ever pose any threat if you can beat failed champion

[sharp slate]

You can manual download from thunderstore as well like nexus

[graceful cairn]

this is why we all move to cogfly

[toxic vigil]

TRUTH NUKE

[orchid spruce]

i am illegal so cant use cogfly

[sharp slate]

I have such mixed opinions on this. I feel like less bosses is higher quality, but at the same time... all bosses hitless hmmmmm

[orchid spruce]

[graceful cairn]

wowwww

[civic island]

Im too lazy to get it

[remote ibex]

yeah cause youre gonna get hit on lace 1 when you can do lace 2 and lost lace hitless

[civic island]

I didnt have the ore when i found it

[graceful cairn]

easiest install ever 💔

[sharp slate]

If it works it works

[civic island]

Now i have to do the whole thing again

Chat

[sharp slate]

Honestly have lace 2 instead of LL in pantheon

[civic island]

I need help with lace 2

[manic siren]

is hollow knight harder or silksong?

[civic island]

Any recommendations

[remote ibex]

what for

[civic island]

Silksong

[orchid spruce]

silksong harder

[harsh yarrow]

Cogfly is Thunderstore :3
Modding community decided early on that Thunderstore would be our main platform, because Nexus is incredibly predatory and nasty to modders

[graceful cairn]

generally silksong is harder

[remote ibex]

unless they make like an absolute lost lace which would be cool but a bit absurd

[sharp slate]

Lace 2 is more fun that's why XD

[graceful cairn]

yeah ik that

[remote ibex]

soo true ash

[graceful cairn]

its just easier to use a mod manager than manually installing everything

[manic siren]

i mean generally i think silksong is a better game than hollow knight

[sharp slate]

The limited arena is actually awesome

[manic siren]

because of the fluidity of hornet

[remote ibex]

i hope they make an "absolute" grand mother silk and lost lace like they did for raidance and thk

[sharp slate]

Forces you to play in a small space

[orchid spruce]

silksong is worse in a lot of aspects

[civic island]

Mmmmmm

[graceful oyster]

Long time no see

[civic island]

Sure ig

[graceful cairn]

grander motherer silker

[remote ibex]

kinda wouldnt mind gms being the harder of the two (i just want absrad but harder)

[hybrid flare]

Bro why doesnt any mod manager work

[hybrid flare]

Skong mogs hk in almost every way

[sharp slate]

I am curious of godhome bosses in future

[graceful cairn]

absrad but well designed

[sharp slate]

God i cant wait

[remote ibex]

absrad is like the best boss ever smh

[hybrid flare]

Shit doesnt work either

[harsh yarrow]

Largely yes

[graceful cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-lying-wong-gif-5558347777370316415

[sharp slate]

But that gives me more time to pratice no one is beating me to hitless godhome in sk muhahaha

[dreamy locust]

act 3 would like a word

[remote ibex]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[hybrid flare]

Genuinely am i forbidden from modding sk now

[graceful cairn]

you issue...

[hybrid flare]

If it had areas doe

[remote ibex]

tc should release the anti ash boss imo so it takes you 5 years to beat it. ill go tlak to them

[graceful cairn]

potential man act 😭

[sharp slate]

Shakra on steroids

[hybrid flare]

truth nuke

[harsh yarrow]

There's a few more notable holes in the lore, and the map isn't as interconnected as I'd like- but beyond that, in everything that really matters, it's just the better game

[remote ibex]

i really feel like a hitless pantheon of pharloom would be done within a week or two tbh

[graceful cairn]

the atmosphere is LAME

[hybrid flare]

Yeah unfortunately the lore has a bunch of retcons but it threads on more interesting concepts

[remote ibex]

unless they release some absolute crazyyy bullshit

[graceful cairn]

silksong has too many large open areas too i dont like those very much

[sharp slate]

Sk for mechanics hk for overworld replayability

[dreamy locust]

hk feels like a cozy bug world and sk feels like i'm going through the rings of hell

[hybrid flare]

I lwk prefer sk's areas

[sharp slate]

Bingo/rando is iconic in hk

I need to test out more sk bingo though

[remote ibex]

i prefer hollow knights spell implementation over the red tools/silk skills

[hybrid flare]

They dont look as blue and better mechanics allow for more refined design

[sharp slate]

I prefer silk skills, but I kinda like charm system more. Red tools are cool need tweaking

[remote ibex]

i also dont rly like the quests in the silksong especially with how boring some of them are and they're required for true ending

[hybrid flare]

For example:

[sharp slate]

Agreed

[graceful cairn]

the thing with hk characters like quirrel and cornifer and such is that theyre rare normal alive people in a dead kingdom which isnt the same for silksong characters like sherma or shakra

[remote ibex]

red tools are cool yeah but i like always having the full set of moves that are used in different situations to complement the nail

[graceful cairn]

tools 😨

[hybrid flare]

Imo the true charm replacement are crests

which i think are generally better

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

[hybrid flare]

You are NOT taking off quickslash ever

[graceful cairn]

oh no the crests are super awesome

[remote ibex]

oh yeah i also really hate the payed benches, especially the benches next to the bell beast stations since they provide zero purpose other than tedium

[harsh yarrow]

Tying spell and needle damage was also a good idea

[sharp slate]

Hard agree with that

[remote ibex]

since you can just go back to bone bottom and bench then go back. youre paying rosaries to not have to watch a cutscene everytime you die its stupid just make the benches and station tied to a single purchase

[hybrid flare]

truth nuke

[graceful cairn]

truth nuke

[lament vessel]

But taxes

[graceful cairn]

grr

[harsh yarrow]

Eh

[orchid spruce]

red tools exist

[remote ibex]

unless they made the benches cost like 1/4 of the station then you could say its a checkpoint for until you have enough money to afford the station which would be cool

[graceful cairn]

huge deal breaker

[sharp slate]

Okay I actually need to sleep, cool seeing you again clover though

[remote ibex]

but then just make them free like fuck it

[sharp slate]

I need to visit hk-disc more

[remote ibex]

cool seeing you too gn ash

[lament vessel]

The 90 rosary bench in Mount fay was evil

[harsh yarrow]

After my first time playing, rosaries outside the very early game aren't much a problem

[lament vessel]

Glad they nerfed it to 60 and hid sum rosaries

[hybrid flare]

bro i cant mod sk someone help me

[orchid spruce]

red tools as an idea ain't really a dealbreaker. they're just balanced poorly and use ... shards

[lament vessel]

Yea but at launch it was horrific 🥹

[graceful cairn]

after i started modding the game I realized i could just use the double rosaries mod and not have to worry about farming anymore

[hybrid flare]

Most of them are very much usable unlike charms lmfao

[graceful cairn]

shards 😨

[remote ibex]

well the problem is i wanna spend my rosaries on COOL shit like new tools but instead im forced to spend it on things that like save a little bit of my time and its annoying

[ornate latch]

you should use #1057825333841240104 also look at the pinned post in #1057825333841240104

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jacc-jacc-so-cool-scared-black-kid-black-gif-19028879

[neat remnant]

shakra.

[orchid spruce]

opposite problem of charms, they're too broken

[neat remnant]

[graceful cairn]

there were some bad charms but at least they were low cost unlike the useless tools which are just as much as other better tools

[orchid spruce]

insert that architect nyleth gif

[hybrid flare]

You could say the same for quickslash but yeah

tools have limited uses at the very least

[remote ibex]

i used tools more on my most recent playthrough and the shards werent reallyyy an issue but i was also first trying most bosses. i can see it being a huge pain in the ass on a first playthrough if you take multiple attempts at a boss and then just feel like saving them the whole game

[hybrid flare]

Deep focus... hiveblood...

[lament vessel]

Except cogflies

[orchid spruce]

I never used quickslash tbh

[lament vessel]

They're always useful

[graceful cairn]

my speedrunning time has taught me that tools are actually useless

[orchid spruce]

Shards... shards...

[graceful cairn]

dont diss my goat hiveblood

[remote ibex]

what are we even talking about </3

[dreamy locust]

damn what did that kid see 😨

[harsh yarrow]

Tools are a nice extra source of damage

[hybrid flare]

What other dependencies does pantheon of pharloom require

[hybrid flare]

Shards... SHARDS

[remote ibex]

tools are heavily used in any speedrun where they're actually in the way of the route

[hybrid flare]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[harsh yarrow]

A lot, just use cogfly

[graceful cairn]

i go to the end of the game with a trobbio mirror and nothing else bro

[hybrid flare]

it doesnt autoinstall the other dependancies

[remote ibex]

well yeah but you can get to the end without using clawline for damage doesnt mean its useless lol

[harsh yarrow]

And utility, flea brew and flintslate are great

[graceful cairn]

too hard to learn smh

[remote ibex]

well tools are easier than clawline at least

[harsh yarrow]

I wish there was a flintslate for spells

[ornate latch]

i never use tools because they cost too many shards

[graceful cairn]

id use flea brew if it didnt have the refill thing that adds absolutely fucking nothing to the game besides annoyance

[ornate latch]

isnt volt filament kinda like that

[remote ibex]

i think the problem with people get used to clawline is that a lot of enemies will just start jumping forward when theyre too far and then you just take contact damage from using it and it feels bad

[hybrid flare]

why couldnt we get portable flea brew cauldron

Like we got the lifeblood gland

[remote ibex]

you also dont get much indication of the damage it does and you first use it for platforming so its kinda conveyed as a platforming tool not a combat thing

[graceful cairn]

because fuck you thats why

[harsh yarrow]

Because going back to the caravan outside of fleatopia isn't that bad

[graceful cairn]

dont you love going back to the same areas for tedious tasks

[remote ibex]

yeah but its bad

[graceful cairn]

is there a mod for infinite flea brew

[harsh yarrow]

Not really

[remote ibex]

only explanation i can think of is them not thinking of like a lore reason it would make sense to have an infinity supply unlike lifeblood

[harsh yarrow]

Going back to Zylotol is a pita

There's no good bellway by them

[hybrid flare]

Make it a charm or smt

[remote ibex]

should just give you a space warping infinite bottle

[hybrid flare]

WHERES PANTHEON OF PHARLOOM! WHERE IS IT

[harsh yarrow]

Or just a cauldron for your bellhome

Easy fix

[graceful cairn]

bro they could just like give you a flea blessing that makes it endless it doesnt have to make sense

[remote ibex]

yeah i think its a poor explanationj

i really dislike the amount of tedium in silksong for things

[graceful cairn]

quests

[harsh yarrow]

Quests aren't bad

I like them, overall

[remote ibex]

enemy killing quests, rng item collection quests like the silver bells

[hybrid flare]

Enemy killing is fine

I lwk discovered quite a few things by doing those quests

[harsh yarrow]

The only bad one is Silver Bells

[orchid spruce]

Silksong quests suck balls

[remote ibex]

id say enemy killing would be fine if you were offered the quest immediately upon entering the area

then its a reward for engaging with the enemies as you explore

[orchid spruce]

Only good ones are Fleas and Collect the ingredients

[hybrid flare]

why isnt my pantheon pharlooming

[remote ibex]

but when you do everything and then the quest is offered to you it feels like youre incetivised to just grind it out and it sucks

[harsh yarrow]

Cloaks of the Choir and the Pilgrim Shalls just happen by playing

[remote ibex]

i think id also like it a lot more if you could more clearly see the benefits of a lot of the quests

[remote ibex]

i feel like i only ever get those AFTER ive explored most of the citadel thats what im saying

[orchid spruce]

I had to grind a ton for the quests

[graceful cairn]

only a few of them are good

[remote ibex]

if it was offered immediately when in songclave i would think its fine

[orchid spruce]

It sucks and is boring

[graceful cairn]

the rest suck a lot

[hybrid flare]

Chat, is nine sol's path to true ending shit?

[orchid spruce]

Also, sniff quests

What is a metroidvania? Here, sniff sniff, let me hold your hand.

[remote ibex]

the sniff quests for finding npcs i kinda like cause they are kinda interesting

[graceful cairn]

yeah but at that point why should they even exist when all theyre adding is either annoyance or nothing

[harsh yarrow]

Hornet is a Hunter, should she not be able to track?

[hybrid flare]

Oh yeah js let me hide an npc in the middle of nowhere and leave NO indication whatsoever

[orchid spruce]

? how is this relevant?

[hybrid flare]

Like a certain other metroidvania does with its true ending questline

[graceful cairn]

hornet is humanoid should she not be able to breakdance

[remote ibex]

if hornet could breakdance itd be a 5.5 instead of a 5/10

[harsh yarrow]

Just being hit with "Our Merchant is lost somewhere, go find her" isn't a way to encourage exploration

[orchid spruce]

Half the game's fault, half my fault

I found ||the drawer myself|| but needed a nudge what area to look

[graceful cairn]

truth

[harsh yarrow]

Instead, what happens is the game leads you to new areas, or things you might've missed

[hybrid flare]

Im talking about nine sols

[orchid spruce]

?

[hybrid flare]

Moreso about the items tbf

The npcs are already there

[orchid spruce]

The items are easy as fuck to find, btw. It's the only game I needed no guide.

[graceful cairn]

i never really had a problem finding anything in nine sols

[remote ibex]

i think the ways id improve the hunt quests is to make them feel impactful, like enemies invade songclave but they're warded off because you gave them weapons to fight with so it feels like youre actually helping the town instead of doing boring fetch quests for money

[hybrid flare]

Its boring as hell

[orchid spruce]

You managed to find zero dmg upgrade in MIO. I genuinely can't trust you in this front

[hybrid flare]

||At least the convos with shennong are interesting icl||

[hybrid flare]

Mio has unintuitive exploration

Difficulty of finding em isnt even the issue its just not interesting

[graceful cairn]

him of ALL the npcs bro 😭

[hybrid flare]

No no like lwk

[orchid spruce]

he's interesting

[harsh yarrow]

Forever sad the Ant Marrow invasion got cut

[orchid spruce]

anyways back to silksong quests ig

[hybrid flare]

2 drunks dudes talking

[remote ibex]

what was it

[graceful cairn]

i mean yea but compared to the other characters hes kinda boring

[harsh yarrow]

Dunno, all we have is the save file flag

[orchid spruce]

The Our merchant is lost is an excuse to hand hold the player to that area, not the other way around

[remote ibex]

there aint even anything there other than the merchant wdym

[orchid spruce]

I am just confident there are way better ways to implement this

[orchid spruce]

It leads to Putrified Ducts

[remote ibex]

i feel like im asking too much since the game already has so much content but then i wish some quests were cut so other quests could be expanded a lot better

[orchid spruce]

They hid Ducts too well and used that quest to guide the player there

[graceful cairn]

i hate having to do the balm for the wounded quest its genuinely so annoying

[orchid spruce]

They think so, at least

I found it myself and had to sniff all the way to the place I already found

[graceful cairn]

i wouldve never found ducts bro

[orchid spruce]

Ducts sucks anyways

[graceful cairn]

they shouldve added yellow paint to lead the player there

[remote ibex]

TRUEEEE

i think the npc track downs are fine. i wish some werent as long but i think its fine

[graceful cairn]

those are fine ig (besides balm for the wounded)

[remote ibex]

maybe like better environment showing how they progressed like the merchant dropping actually useful items that you can pick up on her path

[orchid spruce]

It's fine if not so overused

How many sniff quests are there again

[remote ibex]

uhh like 5?

[orchid spruce]

Definitely more

[lavish apex]

sniff quests are whatever i have way more beef with the collect 20 enemy drops bullshit

or like silver bells

[remote ibex]

flint beetles shakra sherma double merchant both delivery fleas the ant guy is 7

idr what else

the fly gruz mother clone

[lavish apex]

i don't like the sniffs but the game does worse

[remote ibex]

silvers bells is fucking awful

[orchid spruce]

the exploding add mother

the ant hunter

[remote ibex]

yeah said those

[orchid spruce]

i think even beastfly 2 had sniff even though it should be obvious where it is

[remote ibex]

is the nail master guy in act 3 a sniff quest or do you just have to know where he is

[orchid spruce]

maybe i'm mis-remembering

ah yeah, the nailmaster guy also had sniff

[graceful cairn]

collect my garb

[remote ibex]

i mean 10 uses over the course of like 40 hours aint bad imo

[orchid spruce]

???

[graceful cairn]

definitely overused....

[orchid spruce]

that's way too many

[remote ibex]

i dont think its nearly as bad as the hunt quests

[lavish apex]

also the fact that doing every wish with a rosary reward apparently doesn't cover the donations

[graceful cairn]

they couldve just not used those at all for a few of them

[lavish apex]

even excluding the shell shard ones

[graceful cairn]

like for beastfly they couldve had directional slamming noises to lead the player or something

[orchid spruce]

ah yeah, void guy who owns zaza also had sniff

even though it's like one room away

[graceful cairn]

bro forgot garmond

[remote ibex]

is it?

[graceful cairn]

and that wasnt sniff right

[remote ibex]

dont you just follow him

[graceful cairn]

you just followed zaza i think

[orchid spruce]

oh i see, that would make sense

[graceful cairn]

same spirit but more unique

[orchid spruce]

i think that's all the sniff

[remote ibex]

yeah i think this is a better idea

for a few of the quests the sound couldve been leading the player as they get closer

especially broodmother like you even hear the wailing already

i think sound + ground stuff like cornifer and shakra have to lead you to them is good enough

[graceful cairn]

could do that with shakra too considering youre already trained to find her by her singing

[lavish apex]

i think for beastfly 2 and broodmother they could've just not been in the game

[graceful cairn]

nah beastfly 2 was kinda fun

[remote ibex]

REAL

i dont like beastfly 2 the fact he can just ram you from offscreen and his moveset is the exact same

and the enemies he summons are some of the most annoying

and its not even a unique boss arena

[lavish apex]

tarmites on that background while you have to deal with a semi truck flinging itself at you is not fun

[remote ibex]

like its reusing a boss arena, reusing a boss, reusing a quest feature, reusing enemies, and the only thing good is the background

[graceful cairn]

true

[remote ibex]

there are a lot more bosses that id rather see have their movesets expanded in a refight other than beastfly

crazy they reserved a refight for a guy that has 2 attacks when most enemies have more

[graceful cairn]

what if they had first chorus there and it was a super awesome refight of a super awesome boss with more shit

[remote ibex]

honestly given how similar they are, i wouldnt mind that if it was done properly

[lavish apex]

if beastfly 2 was replaced with a chorus rematch that would have been peak

[remote ibex]

they seem like they could compliment each other okay

chorus is a really cool boss presentation wise and we see that there are multiple of them in existence so a refight with a bigger moveset would be cool

[graceful cairn]

and fighting another chorus makes sense because there are more of them

[silk monolith]

5th chorus holy

[graceful cairn]

67th chorus

[remote ibex]

bigger arena with two of them would actually go so hard

have one in the background and one in the foreground and the one in front completely blocks your vision so you cant see shit and then tie to a sniff quest

[graceful cairn]

and its a quest line where you have to kill the mechanical guys in the citadel to gather parts to rebuild it

[remote ibex]

TRUEEE

[silk monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/fourth-chorus-silksong-hollow-knight-boss-hornet-gif-13663543939265240984

should i download the hp bar mod

[remote ibex]

WHY can you not deflect the rocks back up at him like with false knight and failed champ team cherry fell off so hard

[silk monolith]

too big

[unkempt dirge]

Herrah, pale king white lady, iselda, cornifer, bretta with zote, heavily impied Isma with Ogrim,

[lavish apex]

i wish they used mechanics like that more often

[remote ibex]

theyre the same size

[graceful cairn]

because theyre tryna nerf my goat

[silk monolith]

the chorus balls and the false knight balls? nah

[plucky stag]

if you want to, you can

[remote ibex]

i wish you could redirect most of the thrown attacks in the game. parrying them to go through them is cool but being able to redirect is so much cooler and more rewarding for a pretty hard thing to do consistently

[graceful cairn]

i need someone to make a harder fourth chorus mod...

[unkempt dirge]

the pin master

[graceful cairn]

i think if fourth chorus was harder at the point you fight it it wouldnt be good i really like the difficulty for where it is

but i love me some boss refights

[unkempt dirge]

the only non straight characters are Cloth, Ze'mer, and the green prince

not that many lgbt characters imo

[graceful cairn]

nail smith

[unkempt dirge]

also nailshmith and sheo yes

also all of the weavers in general seem to be straight

[remote ibex]

?

[orchid spruce]

not good enough lgbt representation

[graceful cairn]

hornet was implied to have had male partners i think

[unkempt dirge]

she states she knows the weaver curse well

[graceful cairn]

so either shes bi or a closeted straight

[desert abyss]

Well at least a partner

[unkempt dirge]

so she had at least tried a few times with a man

[orchid spruce]

closeted straight

[unkempt dirge]

so she's either straight or bi

[remote ibex]

is she?

[orchid spruce]

i think it makes sense for hornet to be bi/pan

[unkempt dirge]

Yes hornet states to eva she knows the weaver curse regarding reproduction

[graceful cairn]

when hornet comes out as straight the shakra shippers will be in shambles

[unkempt dirge]

the game more so leans with her being straight (so far)

her being bi is very much so possible

[remote ibex]

that could easily just imply she knows because of the weavers she knew and her own mother

[unkempt dirge]

but for (now) it seems more likely that she's straight

[orchid spruce]

we still love you even if you're straight, hornet 💔

[graceful cairn]

can we count kratt as straight

[remote ibex]

it seems very strange for hornet to be the one doing it given her duty as the protector of the kingdom and the fact the kingdom went to shit

[unkempt dirge]

oh no she straight up mentions

that she too is a victim of it

basically confirming she tried doing it with a bunch of dudes and failed to get any offspring

[unkempt dirge]

well yes but he's a creep

[remote ibex]

we can count kratt as non existant

[unkempt dirge]

60% chance she's straight 35% chance she's bi, 5% she's pan

[graceful cairn]

probably

[remote ibex]

you can also say the non gendered characters are lgbt

[graceful cairn]

is mr mushroom straight 🤔

[unkempt dirge]

that would just be the vessels

[remote ibex]

id assume the vessels would be aroace

[graceful cairn]

no sexuality to explore

[unkempt dirge]

and don't mention phantom as that's a war to happen

We are NOT mentioning phantom in this okay, good

[remote ibex]

erm ok

[unkempt dirge]

but yeah the vessels

[unkempt dirge]

The only love the vessels possess is the love for their family

[graceful cairn]

shoutout to all the people who were convinced last judge was a dude

[remote ibex]

i dont know how people thought that rly

[unkempt dirge]

turns out by the va that she's female

[graceful cairn]

every copy of silksong is personalized

[remote ibex]

yeah but they have a very feminine voice

[unkempt dirge]

I mean makes sense the devs tend to just make characters with a feminine or masculine voice to be that specific gender 99% of the time

[remote ibex]

ig sherma does too but sherma is like a kid

[graceful cairn]

yeah and ash ketchum is female too

[torpid kiln]

She’s got the biggest rack in pharloom how did people think that

#womeninlaw

[unkempt dirge]

no I meant that the va stated she was a girl

[remote ibex]

va refers to the character as her

[graceful cairn]

ohh that makes more sense

[remote ibex]

and yeah women often voice act kids cause kids dont have deep voices

i assume thats why sherma is voice acted that way too since hes supposed to be young id assume

[graceful cairn]

bell beast is also likely straight considering she has children

[torpid kiln]

Hornet refers to the last judge with they/them in the journal

[unkempt dirge]

well yeah bell beast is striaght

[torpid kiln]

So I’ll use they/she

[graceful cairn]

i dont think bell beasts adopt

[unkempt dirge]

Hornet calls everybody they them in the journal

that's something that happens most of the time man

[remote ibex]

bell beast adopted bell eaters kids after they were orphaned and they for some reason look like bell beast

[unkempt dirge]

Like idk why people keep mentioning the they/them usage in the journals

when a lot of gendered characters get called as such

[remote ibex]

yeah hornet might just use they for any creature she finds that doesnt speak

[torpid kiln]

Cuz it’s the only source we have for a lot of characters

[unkempt dirge]

She calls male and female characters as they/them in the hunter's journal

when she knows they are male or female

[torpid kiln]

Maybe it’s because she doesn’t see them as people in the journal

Merely prey

[graceful cairn]

hornet is racist

[remote ibex]

yeah thats what i was saying

like you call most animals you see either it or they

[unkempt dirge]

she calls garmond they

[lavish apex]

hornet is probably ace

[torpid kiln]

Nah she’s had mates

Well ig that means she’s not aro

[blazing dragon]

I guess she often uses they/them in more old fashioned way as for a person who's gender is unknown or hard to tell
Like she also use them for the monarch of Pharloom before she knew it's GMS

[remote ibex]

old fashioned? thats still how its used

[blazing dragon]

Because it's Garmond AND Zaza :)

[graceful cairn]

is that old fashioned now 😭 😭

[unkempt dirge]

in lost garmond

[remote ibex]

its just used for unspecified gender and for multiple people thats just always how its been used lol

[dreamy locust]

based?

[blazing dragon]

Idk
Ig they most used for non binary rn
But I'm not a native speaker

[unkempt dirge]

she even calls gms in the hunter's journal without she

even though she's literlly confirmed female

[blazing dragon]

Hmm

[still osprey]

gms is a beautiful man, don't lie

[unkempt dirge]

They call everybody by they/them in the hunter's journal

[blazing dragon]

Ah ok good to know

[toxic vigil]

Both garmond and zaza are he / him

[unkempt dirge]

it genuinely loses any meaning

[graceful cairn]

no i dont think the being with "mother" in their name is a woman

[torpid kiln]

Grand ✨ mother ✨ silk

Like in the gay way

[toxic vigil]

Grand lesbian silk

[torpid kiln]

Grand misandrist silk

[unkempt dirge]

I can keep going but over 80% of the characters in silksong get called they/them or without anything in the hunter's journal by hornet

[still osprey]

Notice how gms only wanted daughters that's because she loves women

[unkempt dirge]

._.

[remote ibex]

i mean tbh the mother title could purely be because she made the pharlids into weavers and acted as their mother by creating them

[torpid kiln]

Notice how the only old heart who got fully murdered was the male

[blazing dragon]

Maybe bc she hated man
Not the same

[timid sky]

When i started playing i thought zaza was female

[plucky stag]

i continue to miomax but now i'm stuck with no idea where to go next

[toxic vigil]

Nope

[timid sky]

Like for the first few weeks

[torpid kiln]

What’s the last % you haven’t done

[timid sky]

Pure vessel

[graceful cairn]

fym nope 😭

[torpid kiln]

Lmfao fair

[graceful oyster]

Fengs

[plucky stag]

mio screenshots for those interested

[orchid spruce]

need a hint?

[lavish stratus]

Is someone claiming Phantom is non-binary?

[toxic vigil]

Zaza is a guy

[plucky stag]

only 54 hours to finish this game

[graceful cairn]

yeah

[graceful oyster]

Hi yes hello undisclaimed Mio spoilers that everyone will click on

[plucky stag]

yes please (thank you)

[torpid kiln]

I refer to phantom with NO pronouns

[still osprey]

She also hates nonbinary people why else would she discard Phantom like that

[toxic vigil]

I don't refer to

[still osprey]

Literally transphobic #cancelgms

[plucky stag]

i really have to kick the bad habit of estabilishing it once and then not marking every post afterwards

[lavish stratus]

Because she's flawed and frayed.

[orchid spruce]

||climb up the waterfalls at the top of the map|| (MIO)

[timid sky]

Find the roof

[plucky stag]

||which part?||

i already ||stargazed at the remains of the eye||, which was such a beautiful moment (mio)

[orchid spruce]

||at the top of the vessel||

[graceful cairn]

gms is ableist then

[toxic vigil]

I am so excited for sea of sorrows

[graceful oyster]

Too soon

[lavish stratus]

Yes she probably is.

[graceful oyster]

Also that's very direct

[orchid spruce]

oh

[plucky stag]

||celestial bay?||

[still osprey]

I HATE Sea of Sorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!

[toxic vigil]

Sea of fuck you

[remote ibex]

i HATE BadTie

[still osprey]

Doesn't everyone?

[graceful cairn]

i dont hate you ❤️‍🩹 🌹

[graceful oyster]

Do you know where you found the 3 codes

[toxic vigil]

Gms hates you

[still osprey]

💜 love wins

[plucky stag]

||in and around the lower deck||

[graceful oyster]

And where the other 3 might be

[plucky stag]

i was assuming from the start that you'd have to find all 6 codes to progress

[plucky stag]

no idea

[graceful oyster]

||All 6 are in left and right redacted ||

You may want to check out finding those

[orchid spruce]

tom dont click ||you dont need the code to reach true ending, no?||

[toxic vigil]

I would rather phantom gender discussion than mio

[graceful oyster]

No, but it's uncompleted and map marked

[blazing dragon]

More like narcissistic/dark triad stuff
GMS hates everything she can't control and what doesn't turn out the way she wants

[toxic vigil]

Like yall.
Go to a mio server

[plucky stag]

so just comb those areas and you'll find the six?

[orchid spruce]

[graceful oyster]

Happens like maybe twice every 2 days, spare me

[toxic vigil]

Mostly talking to @plucky stag

[plucky stag]

i definitely know how to comb areas in video games; i spent probably close to a full day in total just combing pharloom repeatedly because i was stubborn about not taking hints until the last possible moment

[toxic vigil]

Okay nvm i have to go bye everyone

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[orchid spruce]

combing mio is much harder than silksong

[plucky stag]

it'll be over soon

[orchid spruce]

it's a secrets game

[plucky stag]

either i beat the game in the next 53 hours and my discourse stops here or i take a break when subnautica 2 comes out

[torpid swift]

dude the ||left crucible|| was a pain in the ass 💔

[graceful oyster]

There is an overseer you unlocked from fighting ||Acat|| that you have never sat on, so you should poke around there

[torpid swift]

of was it the other one with the rising surface

[plucky stag]

got it, thanks

[orchid spruce]

i didnt have too much trouble with those, i think. or i blacked out.

[torpid swift]

oh nvm I think the hardest one was the

the one in metropolis that gives you a modifier and the ||gloomwater reservoir||

dude both are asss

[vernal adder]

tc should add a cheese based item lwk, would be rad.

[graceful oyster]

Splodge parkour is super peak

[plucky stag]

i might end up just playing hotter or colder in the end

[midnight jasper]

yo.

[torpid swift]

I kept on bumping my head on the water

I hate it

[plucky stag]

so definitely ||the serial codes|| are key to the true ending?

[torpid swift]

yep

[native cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-phone-sit-down-fine-gif-4372497074155600193

[graceful oyster]

Are you specifically looking for true ending

[plucky stag]

yes

[torpid swift]

It was a key to the best boss ever in the game

[plucky stag]

not trying to 100% the game; i just want the true ending hopefully before subnautica 2 drops

[torpid swift]

I really love it, idk why it's so overhated

[native cypress]

What does any of this have to do with silksong

[midnight jasper]

does that even exist

[graceful oyster]

And you don't want any of the context or good info to be found in other optional areas

[plucky stag]

just making a beeline for the true ending

[torpid swift]

dw I platinumed MIO in 5 days you can do it

[graceful oyster]

That seems like a waste but okay

[plucky stag]

it's a time issue

if a beloved sequel wasn't about to drop i'd probably take my time

[graceful oyster]

You could just
Wait to play Subn2

It's not going anywhere

I can't judge, if you want to knowingly scuff Mio's ultimate conclusion to finish it before Subn2 that's your call

I'll get a hint

[plucky stag]

scuff?

[graceful oyster]

Tarnish, render imperfect

[plucky stag]

if that's not the optimal way to experience the game i am not compromising that

i'd like to finish before thursday @ 11am et, but if it means my experience with mio gets compromised i want no part in it

[graceful oyster]

It would a little bit yeah

[plucky stag]

you only get to play a game for the first time once after all

[graceful oyster]

The more information you have the better

[graceful oyster]

That's why I was surprised , I was certain you had that mentality

[plucky stag]

and i do

i'm not laser focused on rushing mio just to get it completed before the deadline

[graceful oyster]

Mmkay

[plucky stag]

it's just something that would be nice to do, but not absoluitely positively necessary

[graceful oyster]

The ending is best done as the last thing you do

[plucky stag]

if i were forced to choose between rushing mio to finish it before subnautica 2 drops or waiting a teensy bit to fully experience mio and take my time, i'd do the latter every time

[graceful oyster]

Maybe try to just do as much as you can and then when it gets real close we can see where you're at

The nudges I gave are for side stuff

Important stuff, but side

[plucky stag]

i trust you on this one

[graceful oyster]

[desert abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/person-below-me-gets-chocolate-cake-person-below-me-gets-chocolate-cake-gif-5547626451795509463

[limber dagger]

yes me

[whole moon]

I still don’t have perms whatever

[old compass]

you were 9 hours late

[unkempt steeple]

It's been long enough can we admit silksong is a game

[north shore]

gmcg

[toxic vigil]

We see 4 total and one is binded for architect crest

[wicked cedar]

Hooray i got 100% last night 🥹

[plucky stag]

congratulations

[wicked cedar]

[north shore]

gmcb

[worn sapphire]

Its out??

That's not real news

You're just silkposting right now

[rustic quest]

Can someone tell me why the green prince donated his soul to the citadel

[unkempt steeple]

It's out but it's pretty niche underground indie media so

[orchid locust]

green prince’s husband donated his soul to the citadel cause he thought it’d make them leave verdania alone

[unkempt steeple]

Donated

[orchid locust]

voluntary donation™

[hybrid flare]

And they did

[worn sapphire]

No

[hybrid flare]

Till gms came

[unkempt steeple]

What did they do to his corpse, did they stuff him full of silk to turn him into a silkfly

[worn sapphire]

But I did hear that there is a Nintendo direct soon for the Nintendo Switch 2

[hybrid flare]

They siphoned his soul and made him 2 clankers as a show of power

[orchid locust]

idk they prolly just threw his corpse into bilewater after stuffing his soul into the dancers

[rustic quest]

Didnt verdania still get destroyed

[cyan forum]

Paperclip People

[unkempt steeple]

Silksong should be more like mixtape

[unkempt steeple]

Yes bc when have the cidadel ever stayed true to their word

[hybrid flare]

Nyleth, actually

and the citadel fell to the haunting

[unkempt steeple]

Some choir bugs still tried to go get her

[hybrid flare]

Likely haunted

[unkempt steeple]

Stop blaming everything on women...

[hybrid flare]

Cuz the cit made a statue for her before

[unkempt steeple]

Gms would never hurt pharloom

[hybrid flare]

its not my fault the MAIN ANTAGONIST is a female

[unkempt steeple]

Gms loves all her children equallt

[unkempt steeple]

She's like not even in full control of the haunting she's asleep...

[hybrid flare]

Sk lore is like connecting a bird to ronald reagan

[hybrid flare]

Yeah she haunts cuz she can't excert control otherwise

[unkempt steeple]

Imagine waking up from centuries of sleep only for some random to either absorb you, infect you or teleport you to the void

[hybrid flare]

Life as gms sucks but she earned it

[unkempt steeple]

She didn't the weavers should've just kept to being her daughters

[hybrid flare]

💔

[unkempt steeple]

"Wa wa she ascend us mindless bugs to demi godhood out of the kindness of her heart and didn't tell us about it"

"We need to invent 9 to 5s now"

"And guns"

[hybrid flare]

That's not even the main issue

[mellow tangle]

well the silkshot exists

[hybrid flare]

Like atp gms had her eyes in every weaver cuz they couldnt have shit

[unkempt steeple]

Good look what they did to pharloom after they put gms to sleep

[wicked cedar]

John silk

[mellow tangle]

jane*

[hybrid flare]

Wish we could see how gms ruled before

collecting signatures for tc to make old pharloom dlc

[mellow tangle]

sea of sorrow is tommorow

[rustic quest]

I mean you are kinda able to tell with the uh statue

[whole moon]

“We can’t go outside and be ourselves waaa

[unkempt steeple]

It would still suck bc the old hearts were as evil as the cidadel

[hybrid flare]

What statue

[hybrid flare]

son 💔

[rustic quest]

The one that comes alive

[whole moon]

Sonion

[rustic quest]

It has a name

[hybrid flare]

Isamor is a citadel construct

Likely weaver era construct

[unkempt steeple]

Karmelita is racist
Khann had a militaristic state
Nyleth
The clover dancers were gay

Admit it, the cidadel was rhe best thing pharloom had

[wind gate]

Kermelita is racist?

[hybrid flare]

LONG LIVE THE BUG'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF PHARLOOM 🔥

[terse heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1502773295978774548/image-ezgif.com-apng-to-gif-converter.gif

[rustic quest]

Oh

[whole moon]

Nyleth is that one “what does he even do” meme

[unkempt steeple]

Where did they even get a giant flower god plant bug thing

[hybrid flare]

idk maybe nyleth is a cycle

Nyleth grows into shellwood and shellwood grows into another nyleth

[unkempt steeple]

But wasn't shellwood non existnent before her

[hybrid flare]

Apparently yeah, but that doesn't imply there wasn't anything

We see quite a bit of stuff in her arena thingy

[terse heart]

I keep nearly dying in sinners road

[cunning geode]

Nyleth could be the primary reproductive flower of the giant shellwood plant

[wind gate]

yeah that's normal don't worry about it

[wicked cedar]

Nyleth was peak bc she made shellwood cool and then when she died sister splinter came along and made it all spiky and then a new nyleth is coming or at least something similar now that splinter died

[terse heart]

on steel soul

[old compass]

does that mean you have at least 5 broken saves

[wicked cedar]

Dont go there until you have 10 masks and plasmium overdose and wreath of purity 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[hybrid flare]

Nyleth's influence is kinda fading which could imply someone else was going to take the heart ig

[terse heart]

Unlike yall, I'm a wimp and wear enough masks to save and quit before

[hybrid flare]

I don't really know what to make out of that

[old compass]

as someone who doesn't save and quit, I respect that

[wicked cedar]

Well you would need the elegy of the deep or wtv its called

[terse heart]

Bro I almost did that one guy skip in the big traps room

[old compass]

for steel soul mode I beat lost lace 10 times in a row

[wicked cedar]

We loved making sea of sorrow so much that we decided to develop it into its own game

[wicked cedar]

howww

[hybrid flare]

I mean not really ig the heart is living in shellwood itself

[old compass]

simple, I did lost lace hitless needle only tooless

[hybrid flare]

I think elegy is needed to find the concentrated form of the land

[whole moon]

What

[wicked cedar]

😳😳😳

[whole moon]

Yeah whatever idc

[wicked cedar]

Yeah

[terse heart]

roach guts

[whole moon]

Tooless isn’t difficult

[wicked cedar]

I'm just saying she is useful 🙏

[wicked cedar]

Wait a sec that's true i also did it toolless 😭😭😭

I meant more the hitless part

[wicked cedar]

Yummy

[old compass]

it's the hitless part but I added tooless for good measure (includes blue and yellow)

[wicked cedar]

😳 oh damn

I didn't do it that toolless

How did you survive without the compass?

[craggy iris]

bro valid question (excuse my interuption)

[old compass]

I didn't buy shit from shakra for speedrun

[wicked cedar]

But the compass is the best tool and it's too powerful so you shouldn't be able to survive without it

[old compass]

I took the hard path without it ngl

[wicked cedar]

The compass to hornet is what the cogwork heart is to the second sentinel

[wicked cedar]

So did you also not buy ANY maps??

[old compass]

yeah well, until I need the quest that is-

[onyx python]

what happens if you bind while overdosed using whitvh crest

[wicked cedar]

holy

[craggy iris]

WOWOWOOW

[wicked cedar]

It will just let you do the attack ig, since bind in overdose only heals one mask

[wind gate]

https://tenor.com/view/sanagecs-jimmy-neutron-jimmy-neutron-getting-swooped-up-by-an-eagle-eagle-men-under-5'8-gif-8628910521350246629

[terse heart]

I JUST realized there was a gap you can climb

[old compass]

tip for sinner's road: use kaboom and you won't die

[exotic cedar]

tip for silksong: don't die

[old compass]

for silksong: die

(it's a requirement)

[exotic cedar]

I don't want to die for silksong

[old compass]

[torpid kiln]

Silksong!!!!!!!

[torpid kiln]

If you don’t we’ll kill sherma

[whole moon]

Nice

[whole moon]

still tho we don’t exactly know what happened to her

[exotic cedar]

Nice he deserves death... I hope he gets baked soon 🙏

[whole moon]

Im guess nyleths power faded over time naturally, nothing really lasts forever

[old compass]

nyleth dying before karmilita is insane, like trees can often be very old but somehow karmilita outlived everything