sk-discussion

[leaden delta]

ugh does it haaaaaaaaaave to be ss

[fiery burrow]

is he

[leaden delta]

bum ass game

[patent cosmos]

What did you have in mind

[fiery burrow]

idr any of his dialogue lowk

[leaden delta]

I Love Amy

Korean webcomic series that’s really fucking good

[opaque sigil]

isn't that said

[violet path]

1. Oh i didnt know that
2. Ew

[fiery burrow]

I mean it wouldn't surprise me but I don't think so?

[violet path]

Ya now that i think abt it he does carry the whimsey of youth

[violet path]

Deadass

[lavish apex]

i don't think it's ever quite explicitly said he's a child but everything about him gives that impression

[opaque sigil]

she calls him little one kind of a lot but whatever

[violet path]

Either way

Are there any ethical and fire silksong ships

[opaque sigil]

uh

[fiery burrow]

why does he immediately switch from eloquent wise old man to 6 year old

[opaque sigil]

crull and benjin

[calm lily]

hello again bugs

[lavish apex]

TRUE

[odd hull]

Forge Daughter and the little guy

Idk

[opaque sigil]

that's definitely a HR violation she's his supervisor

[odd hull]

That's what makes it good

[violet path]

Splishy splash

Thats adorable

[fiery burrow]

I used to ship caretaker and chapel maid before release I'm so mad bro

[violet path]

Honestly i wouldve liked if ss was a bit more plot driven like with characters i get its not that type of game but given the existence of dialogue I think it woulda been neat

[formal mural]

love it when characters do this

[odd hull]

lmao

[orchid spruce]

Maybe shaman culture tolerates incest

[fiery burrow]

Caretaker was lowk the only character worth caring about

[opaque sigil]

and crull and benjin

[odd hull]

True

[fiery burrow]

they aren't worth caring about they die offscreen in act 3

[violet path]

Dang

[orchid spruce]

who is even crull and benjin

[opaque sigil]

tacks guys

[orchid spruce]

ooo

[icy crow]

@exotic cedar super rare pink pearl

[orchid spruce]

how memorable

[fiery burrow]

they were memorable

why did bonebottom just not have anyone to care about

[orchid spruce]

bone bottom had scared pilgrim, the goat

[opaque sigil]

bonebottom being so irrelevant was truly disappointing

[north shore]

hi sk-disc

[crisp heron]

holy shit i finally did it

[broken seal]

what

[fiery burrow]

no one was relieved to see survivors camp its just one guy you can't talk to half the time anyway 🥀

[crisp heron]

no pressing retry or quit to map, no supers, no charms

all cuphead bosses at least a ranked as well as getting the broken relic to the divine relic

[opaque sigil]

I never even saw it I just assumed everyone was dead and didn't really care

[fiery burrow]

true

I cared because Bonebottom is the best Larkin song 🥺

[violet path]

Holy

For why

[fiery burrow]

If the context was better it would be a top 5 video game song

[frosty light]

they read your messages and deemed this the appropriate punishment for SLANDERING (youll be hearing from their lawyers btw) their games. thats why they canceled the 2023 release and made act 3...

[lavish apex]

gave it one of the best themes in the game for what

[north shore]

Bro I asked alph4 about it for silksong bingosync and he said “what is that”

[fiery burrow]

I'm sorry I'll never say HK just had blue in its color palette again 💔

[fiery burrow]

[opaque sigil]

at least it's not grey 💀

[lavish apex]

idk if i'd go that far

[frosty light]

thinking they released that track because thy were setting up how pivotal to the story your entry point to the game would be but nah they just picked the most bum ass area because they knew no oned care about it later 😭

[opaque sigil]

also yeah not even close lol

[lavish apex]

but it's peak
and you never have a reason to be there long enough to hear all of it

which sucks

[fiery burrow]

I mean it'd go

1. can't talk about it
2. can't talk about it
3. can talk about it but won't
4. lumiere
5. bonebottom

[frosty light]

and lace was spoiled anyway because she wasnt the final boss yet ig???? i see the method beneath the madness...

[opaque sigil]

oh right you haven't heard all the can't talk about its

there are like

at least four can't talk about its up there

[lavish apex]

?

[rocky jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105009859822362714/1230950752646598827/image0-117.gif

[fiery burrow]

oh put world looks red in there somewhere

[lavish apex]

what are the can't talk about its

[fiery burrow]

_ _

[vivid belfry]

considerable amount of top 5 videogame tracks are from umineko, if not all of them

[lavish apex]

wow gonna be like that huh

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/bh85GHBe6xY 🗣️

[fiery burrow]

i'm gatekeeping (its outer wilds)

[orchid spruce]

nine sols epic spoilers music

[lavish apex]

i have finished outer wilds

which ones
i wanna know

[fiery burrow]

can't talk about it

[lavish apex]

not out of disagreement necessarily

[fiery burrow]

oh you've finished it

[lavish apex]

dm?

[opaque sigil]

star don't click
||14.3 billion years, Travelers (Encore), Echoes of the Eye||

[vivid belfry]

off the top of my head I can't think of a complete soundtrack that isn't mogged by this and it's not even top 3 in its own game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raxEmANPTVc

[fiery burrow]

||Travellers and 14.3 Billion Years||

[lavish apex]

ok, interesting

kinda fair
not really my favorite tracks though

[fiery burrow]

Should the Outer Wilds DLC ||lanterns be called loss seeking flames 🤔 https://aerialruin.bandcamp.com/album/loss-seeking-flame||

[lavish apex]

i haven't played eote yet actually

[fiery burrow]

I haven't finished it I'm larping

[lavish apex]

will probably get to it at some point

[opaque sigil]

eote is fantastic

sadly closest thing we'll ever get to a sequel probably

[fiery burrow]

aren't they working on something new

[north shore]

Hi Grover hyd

[opaque sigil]

yeah but I super doubt it's another outer wilds

[lavish apex]

hard to name mine actually there are too many banger candidates

[fiery burrow]

I don't think a sequel would be outer wilds quality anyway

[lavish apex]

like top 5 vg songs

[fiery burrow]

also we got blue prince anyway

[opaque sigil]

I mean you've played xenoblades so there's a lot to sift through

[lavish apex]

yeah it's hard to not just

fill it with xc and nier

[vivid belfry]

I'm chill

[fiery burrow]

I don't want to glaze RW but random gods is up there

[opaque sigil]

project wingman (and the dlc) ost needs more love

[lavish apex]

never played

sadly

[opaque sigil]

oh shit I didn't know marcomeatball had reactions to some of the pw ost

that's how you know it's goated

[fiery burrow]

actually a really good ost in general https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg5W7g4RfQw

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/LDwSte3nkjk the composer is also doing the ost for another upcoming game that looks (and sounds) great

[lavish apex]

panacea might need to be up there

[fiery burrow]

true

[opaque sigil]

is weight of life a normie pick

sometimes normies are right

[north shore]

That’s good

[meager jolt]

Ngl it would hit harder if Flick died, but that's just me

[lavish apex]

i don't think xc3 is even a particularly normie game so i would say no

[vivid belfry]

this isn't in the conversation for my top 5 but I'm shilling it anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU1ZkWm5Bbk

[lavish apex]

but also like valid

[fiery burrow]

we're all playing the giantess dating sim

[vivid belfry]

it'll happen someday

if I have to sculpt the earth with my bare hands

[opaque sigil]

I could just buy it

I have like 9 bucks in my steam account anyways for some reason

[vivid belfry]

it got rated by the ESRB as T for Teen

can you believe that shit

[fiery burrow]

also not a top 5 but very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVVfjgImr3I

[candid kayak]

if it doesn't contain nsfw themes, yes

[patent warren]

okey, i got silk soar

[opaque sigil]

isn't it like a psychological horror about toxic relationships

[patent warren]

now what can i do and where should i go invact 3..

hmmm

[vivid belfry]

that's one of the things it's about but not the forefront

[opaque sigil]

yes I know this is probably reductive but I haven't played it

[lavish apex]

limiting to 1 per series

1. nier final boss theme
2. xenoblade 1 main theme
3. neverending night
4. panacea
5. bowser's inside story final boss theme

[patent warren]

Get nine sols

[lavish apex]

my bullshit highly biased top 5 vg tracks

[opaque sigil]

already played it it's meh

[vivid belfry]

okay what do you mean by "nier final boss"

[orchid spruce]

[lavish apex]

the final boss theme in nier?

[north shore]

Wait we can only pick one song per video game?

[vivid belfry]

aren't there multiple

[orchid spruce]

🙁

[opaque sigil]

like which nier game

[lavish apex]

the first one

[vivid belfry]

multiple nier games and multiple final bosses per game

[lavish apex]

the main guy

i mean no not really

but i guess also yes

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/YpExz3pXINs 🗣️

[fiery burrow]

send the valstrax recorder version coward

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/NNrn9BjNyKY fine

[fiery burrow]

this what real music sounds like

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/jvRjogv57Gg also the real one because it IS a banger

[north shore]

^

[fiery burrow]

shrine ruins theme goes so hard for the first area

[lavish apex]

||https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZUbyM5PxY&si=YxKaewbkX0Y7M18R|| this is the one i'm talking about ig the name is vague enough that it's not really a spoiler

[fiery burrow]

one song would make a more diverse list ig

[north shore]

https://youtu.be/Z92rgK2P4iA?si=byf1EmmXlHgX7n5N

[opaque sigil]

red sun is very good

is it better than the only thing I know for real

[fiery burrow]

the hot winds blowing 🗣️

[north shore]

Honestly red sun might not be the best choice? I’m pretty partial to A Soul Can’t Be Cut

[lavish apex]

oh yeah mgr has like 5 tracks that could also be on there i love that shit

[native cypress]

What the hell do any of these have to do with silksong

[north shore]

The regular combat ambience music is fucking FIRE and no one acknowledges that

[fiery burrow]

no one talks about ashes to ashes

[north shore]

Like Return to ashes is a BANGER

[opaque sigil]

oh dark skies fucks

[fiery burrow]

return to ashes I mean

[north shore]

The war still rages within doesn’t fuck as hard but it still fucks

[lavish apex]

nothing

[north shore]

jagged lines across the sand

[lavish apex]

it has to be this way has to be the one for me

[fiery burrow]

this what I live for fr https://youtu.be/zUrUoCDrcdo?t=55

[odd hull]

The discussion started bc of bonebottom's theme

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/3KVr9bmygdE

[native cypress]

Bruh cogwork has the best song in silksong

[north shore]

Idk if you’ve seen but these fucking remixes are amazing https://youtu.be/hjgheKgjPk4?si=sxsmEsxZcYOasQtI

Oh wait guys we forgot about https://youtu.be/y-Pzd1pSkg0?si=1_WK2nYjcEIXgs_z

and it also has a fire SLAD3 remix https://youtu.be/jPp-xslcnCg?si=u8FawCnX4LRHhXzO

[lavish apex]

really all of the boss themes in mgr are fantastic

bad typo! time to explode and die

[odd hull]

I prefer GMS theme

[formal mural]

MGR MENTIONED

[opaque sigil]

stains of time ❤️

[odd hull]

2nd would be karmelita's theme

[umbral ether]

hello what is going on in this channel

[formal mural]

AND IT WILL COME!!! LIKE A FLOOD OF GRAIN 🍞!!! 🗣️‼️🔥

[north shore]

The fact that no one’s brought up A stranger I remain yet is criminal

[north shore]

POURIN’ DOWN THE DRAIN

[odd hull]

Discussion about OSTs

[vivid belfry]

initial picks for top 5 if I can only pick one song per game

1. worldenddominator
2. apocalipsis ciconia II
3. partners - the game is afoot
4. existence
5. neverending night

[formal mural]

stalincore /ij

[north shore]

so yrue

[lavish apex]

nobody ever talks about i'm my own master now

[north shore]

Lovely song as well

[opaque sigil]

partners the game is afoot is indeed fantastic

I should replay tgaa

it's been long enough I think

[lavish apex]

i feel like saying neverending night is toby's best song is insane but it kinda just is for me

[formal mural]

mistral would be so hot if she had a personality beyond killing people and spreading 1st world imperial control for shits and giggles

[vivid belfry]

both of them?

[lavish apex]

it's so good

[opaque sigil]

probably

[umbral ether]

in that case ac6's music is very good https://youtu.be/FkGcXc4XeIA?si=Y7z8ERY4PJ9eCOJ4 https://youtu.be/98mfnWq9FUY?si=rh3w43efrH4O4wva https://youtu.be/aCu93MKq7ec?si=F3D58wlwVAe3w_8P

[fiery burrow]

true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVa9B8RPw3Y

[opaque sigil]

idk why I'd skip one of them, I don't remember one being considerably weaker

[formal mural]

"nothing ventured nothing gained" is a line i've stolen for one of my own tracks

also "time to leave them all behind"

blade wolf would be so awesome if they were a trans allegory

[lavish apex]

picking my single favorite xenoblade song is like a near impossible task

so i just kinda defaulted to that one

[vivid belfry]

felt like this about umineko

[umbral ether]

everhood also has a good ost which makes sense it is a rytham game https://youtu.be/nAhWI2SeSWI?si=hv89-e58FXzYwM-a

[vivid belfry]

everybody knows what the best song in everhood is

what's the best song in everhood 2 though

[umbral ether]

never played it

heard it wasn't as good as everhood 1

[vivid belfry]

I think it's better but also I'm insane

[umbral ether]

from what ive heard the story makes no sense

[vivid belfry]

yeah, that's why I like it

it breaks conventions in a way that is straight up hostile to the audience

which, it's reasonable that people wouldn't like that

but I can take a beating

[north shore]

Okay, in NO PARTICULAR ORDER

1. The hot wind blowing - MGRR
2. Pigstep - Minecraft
3. Reflection - Celeste
4. The Vengeful Spartan - GOW
5. Devil Trigger - DMC5

[lavish apex]

aw fuck reflections is a good pick

[opaque sigil]

blebbles did you ever play shadows of valentia because that ost is crazy

[fiery burrow]

oh lena raine has some awesome songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TIc5-_J52o

[lavish apex]

or no that's not what it's called i'm a larper

[lavish apex]

yes and also that is a fact

[lavish apex]

i'm thinking of resurrections

[fiery burrow]

this is the song for an area that connects other areas that takes about 20 seconds to walk through if I'm being generous

[north shore]

Oh that’s also a great one

[versed pollen]

Lena Raine has never composed a bad song methinks

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/I8Ug53h2zLA spit yo shit rudolf

[lavish apex]

that's my favorite celeste track

[lavish apex]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=kJx_b0w0Xss&si=dpgykYq_DaSCIbVk absolute gas

[still osprey]

I LOVE THE CHICORY OST RAHHHHHH!!!!!

[vivid belfry]

I need you guys to understand the shit I am passing up in my umineko pick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cwaWybHkuE

[still osprey]

PLAY CHICORY RAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[fiery burrow]

In the Mirror would be my pick for best Celeste song

[north shore]

Y’all sleeping on https://youtu.be/IKP5E--ixR0?si=6rPU_J3epYvEpE0e

[fiery burrow]

Big fan of Quiet and Falling and all of mirror temple from a narrative standpoint (not gameplay ofc)

[versed pollen]

I haven't listened to the Celeste songs in so long, and I've always listened to all of them enough that I probably don't like any of them anymore

[vivid belfry]

also this isn't a videogame but I'm shilling Sinister Minds, the Sonic.exe Michael Jackson concept album

[north shore]

Although actually https://youtu.be/na-Q1jGoKg4?si=GTv6t6lmOqF_pDR0 kinda solos

[versed pollen]

Hey everybody's talking about video game OST and you're bringing up some distantly related weird thing

[vivid belfry]

it's not THAT distant

[versed pollen]

We need to kill you

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/Xklqb0_wVUs this game also has a great ost

[still osprey]

Best celeste song is lowkey Starfruit Supernova (Pillars of Creation Mix) I don't care if it's modded I don't even careeree I don't care if it's not base game I don't careeee it hits different and the map it's for is like top 10 I've played at least

[versed pollen]

You are breaking the rules and must be destroyed

[formal mural]

the hot wind blowing would be such a good song if it wasn't sung from the perspective of an american soldier

[umbral ether]

in no particular order and only one song from each game

1. Steel Haze (Rusted Pride) armoured core 6
2. It Has To Be This Way metal gear rising revengnce
3. The Final Battle everhood
4. Tenebre Rosso Sangue ultrakill
5. through patches of violet limbus company

[fiery burrow]

Strawberry Jam is incredible

[versed pollen]

Starfruit Supernova is good but I've always liked Shatter the Pantheon more as a HS song

[vivid belfry]

FUUUUCK I forgot Tenebe Rosso Sangue

[still osprey]

Shatter the Pantheon goes crazy I love gmhs flag 1 raaaaah!!!

[north shore]

Well it’s not exactly in support of the military

[vivid belfry]

you know what? doesn't make it

[formal mural]

that is true. makes it feel weird to sing though

[lavish apex]

really? i feel like that's baked in pretty well, it's doing that as a critique of the military-industrial complex

[north shore]

But yeah we can all accept that the desperados are obviously in the moral wrong

But their music is so fucking good

[fiery burrow]

the world looks red minos motif in question

[north shore]

^

[formal mural]

TENEBRE ROSSO SANGUE MY GOAT

[versed pollen]

Xplosives is a good friend of mine and I think he was asleep when I got to flag 1 lmao

[umbral ether]

why

[formal mural]

makes it feel weird to sing as i said

i think the themes are baked in pretty well though

[fiery burrow]

somehing something piranesi hakita sideproject go listen this is one of my favorite songs oat ‼️ https://piranesiproject.bandcamp.com/album/088-the-night-was-silent-and-light-without-you

[formal mural]

same with the only thing i know for real

[north shore]

imo the fact that khamsin is specifically an American soldier isn’t the problem

The fact that he’s a war criminal on the side that’s training babies to be mindless killers, that’s the problem

[opaque sigil]

being a like discarded veteran is just what got him into that position but that's about institutional failures

[fiery burrow]

favorite songs that are awkward to sing

[north shore]

I think that the actions of the American government and a select few of the military have kind of vilified the idea of military service as a whole when the large majority of individuals in the military are just people like us lol

[versed pollen]

This one isn't embedded so the effort to watch is too high

[formal mural]

meh. /təˈmeɪtoʊ/-/təˈmɑːtoʊ/

[north shore]

That’s not to say I support those actions, but it’s a little unfair to vilify people in the military as a whole because of them

[opaque sigil]

yeah this is very true

[north shore]

…this is the exact attitude which is a problem.

[fiery burrow]

yea is for the real music fans only sorry

[lavish apex]

fe games are mostly great on the soundtrack front

[umbral ether]

of course

[versed pollen]

Yea but when people diss the military I don't think anybody is dissing the people in the military

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/LiKnlT-XZRs

[formal mural]

comrade 💔

[fiery burrow]

I've seen it

[north shore]

People definitely are doing that

[fiery burrow]

The one Xiu Xiu song

[umbral ether]

those are two different things

[versed pollen]

Well yea it's fun to make fun of soldiers

[formal mural]

[Lenin wrote in the margin "True!"] /ref

[north shore]

…it is?

[opaque sigil]

if you wanna do like competent class based analysis people in the military and especially veterans can be massively marginalized

[versed pollen]

It's fun to make fun of many people on the internet so this wouldn't be particularly different I think

[opaque sigil]

which is what hot wind blowing is about the dehumanization and discarding of soldiers to serve a larger agenda under the guise of fighting for a cause

[north shore]

Uh I guess I can see where you’re coming from yeah

[formal mural]

yeah actually you should try it sometime /red

[north shore]

The numbers are like really sad actually

The amount of veterans that don’t have stable homes or lives is really depressing

[versed pollen]

Anyways the point is that when people are insulting solders it's usually less a legitimate political criticism of the people in the military and more just: "Okay well they're in the crossfire and this is fun anyways"

[formal mural]

i've always seen it more as a theme about losing your personhood to serving larger imperial goals, reducing yourself to a weapon. which has been a theme in metal gear since the start

[north shore]

I don’t think this is true. I’ve seen a lot of online insulting of American soldiers solely because they’re American soldiers

[versed pollen]

Well is it fun

[north shore]

I think lines like “fulfill our duties, then vanish without a trace” support Tammo’s idea a little more imo, but you’re both right-ish imo

I think the song definitely is about losing your personhood, but sort of in critique of it

[formal mural]

i always thought it referred to them pillaging a 3rd-world nation (such as abhkazia in the game) and then leaving right after

[north shore]

Oh I always interpreted as like outliving their usefulness and being discarded

[versed pollen]

Is there anything in the lyrics that really stops it from being both

[formal mural]

or rather the perceived idea of leaving right after while still leaving a horrible socioeconomic impact on the pillaged nation

[umbral ether]

same

[opaque sigil]

not to mention the previous lines about being dirty and faceless and invisible

[umbral ether]

yeah

[north shore]

America try not to irreparably damage a developing or unstable region challenge

[formal mural]

khamsin himself doesn't appear to be very "discarded". he actually seems pretty stoked about his position

[opaque sigil]

there's also the first line about trying to justify everything that happened which is probably a reference to shit like ptsd

[formal mural]

faceless and what /ref

[north shore]

If he’s invisible why can I hit him

[opaque sigil]

he's a victim of a pipeline that funnels vets into mercenary work

[versed pollen]

Because you can see him

[opaque sigil]

that's not to say he can't also be a bad person

but that's a part of what he represents

[north shore]

I imagine it’s more political than that, governments trying to justify their actions in increasingly absurd and abhorrent ways

[opaque sigil]

sure but it's written as "we try to justify" where the first person throughout is the soldiers themselves

[north shore]

But actually ptsd does tie in well with the rest of the song since it’s a very personal song

[opaque sigil]

Just like the buffalo, blindly following the herd
We try to justify all the things that have occurred

[formal mural]

if he's invisible why can i even say his name

[north shore]

“I don’t know what I’ve been told, but the wishes of the people can’t be controlled” is a line I’ve struggled to interpret for a while

[north shore]

Because HIS NAME IS- /ref

[formal mural]

OR HAVE III BEECOOOME [title card]

[opaque sigil]

is it saying can't or can

idk there's the whole shared musical motif with collective consciousness

[north shore]

Can’t

[umbral ether]

can't

[north shore]

Which is why I’ve been struggling

[north shore]

I imagine part of it is that the soldiers in The Hot Wind Blowing are (part of) the unenlightened masses in Collective Consciousness

[opaque sigil]

yeah

[umbral ether]

a video i watched about blade wolf has a section giving their thoughts on what khamsin's theme means and they interpeted those lines as meaning this

[north shore]

I think collective consciousness is obviously the citizens but like also applies to the military industrial complex

[formal mural]

it comes before the "invisible warrior" part so it's maybe about soldiers doubting whether their "duty" lies within proletarian class interests before having that doubt juiced out of them by war

[opaque sigil]

I guess

[north shore]

The bourgeoise squeezing soldiers like a fucking orange

[opaque sigil]

it could also be read as the soldiers being in denial

[umbral ether]

yeah it is sorta iffy i feel

[north shore]

That’s what I imagined after reading this lmao

[formal mural]

all while refacing and brainwashing that orange into bootlicking for them

reflected in how that line doesn't appear again later in the song

[opaque sigil]

it's the refrain it does appear again later

[north shore]

Damnit this is like a genuinely serious horrible thing that’s actively going on especially in America but I can’t stop laughing at the mental image of an orange licking a boot

[north shore]

^

[formal mural]

are you sure

[opaque sigil]

yes

[north shore]

Oh wait no it doesn’t iirc

[formal mural]

are you shaw

[north shore]

Tammo you’re being like wrong and incorrect

[formal mural]

yeah i just pulled the lyrics up that's the last time it appears

[opaque sigil]

listen to the song

[formal mural]

doing that now

[opaque sigil]

0:40is and 2:16

[formal mural]

i of course do not mind to listen to such a masterpiece

[north shore]

Oh is it just not in the official lyrics a second time

[formal mural]

2:16 is the. end of the song?

[opaque sigil]

it's the refrain

[north shore]

T-the song isn’t 2:16 long…?

[opaque sigil]

oh did I click the wrong thing

[north shore]

Tammo did you get bamboozled and click on one of the extended things

[opaque sigil]

maybe

[north shore]

Did you done goof and hit this video https://youtu.be/0vp_4vc-btI?si=0zAbqlzX13ezHHXY

[opaque sigil]

either way the point of it is probably the contrast between the like typical military slogan and the other line, not its relation to surrounding lyrics

the whole I don't know what I've been told

[orchid spruce]

nine sols spoilers

[opaque sigil]

it's like a mantra

[north shore]

I imagine a lot of the song in general ties into things that were happening in Afghanistan at the time, especially with lines like “Heat of the desert, dust settles on my face”

[opaque sigil]

yeah

[formal mural]

khamsin is definitely a critique of the war on terror. especially considering how sundowner and armstrong literally mention it by name

or well. sundowner refers to it as the "good 'ol days after 9/11"

[orchid spruce]

nine sols spoiler

[north shore]

Sundowner is specifically referring to the demand for PMCs due to the war on terror in the days right after 9/11 so yeah def

[opaque sigil]

the game as a whole is critical of the military industrial complex but hot wind blowing specifically really centers the abuse of soldiers

[north shore]

And there are several references to turning war into a business, which the war on terror was a huge part of

[formal mural]

i see it as a critique of soldierhood et al

[orchid spruce]

nine sols spoilers

[formal mural]

at the very least fighting for a bourgeois state

[north shore]

I think this is the wrong interpretation

[opaque sigil]

hot wind blowing is about people intending to fight for justice being exploited, manipulated, and cast aside

[north shore]

A lot of the game is about how it’s genuinely not the fault of the cyborgs that you’re fighting

Or did you miss the ENTIRE depression section

[formal mural]

more specifically the US with how khamsin talks about fighting for "freedom"

[formal mural]

if i missed that section monsoon wouldn't be beating my ass into next blurghsday

[opaque sigil]

one of them literally says something like "an ied took my legs, this was my only option" which is EXACTLY the kind of thing hot wind blowing is about

[north shore]

Like the whole point of that entire section is that these people were manipulated into the circumstance that they’re in by these people in positions of power and authority (in this case the desperado leaders)

It’s a critique of a bourgeoise state where war is a business and the economy is made of human lives

Not a critique of the individual soldiers

If you come out thinking “wow those soldiers I fought were stupid and evil”, you have HEAVILY misunderstood the game

[formal mural]

this is what i meant; the very existence of the soldier is being manipulated into serving rulers' interests

[wispy berry]

Wait but the soldiers don't make money because their infected so how is it an economy

[north shore]

Well yeah the game is very obviously about America

Or did you miss the final boss’ occupation

[north shore]

What are you on about

[formal mural]

remind me to come back here once i have image perms

[wispy berry]

I'm aftaid

I'm still the smartest bllk fan tho

[woeful skiff]

you need about 300 messages sent to send pics

[formal mural]

i have an inside joke with my metal gear obsessed friend who guided me through silksong. hornet fighting GRAD and raiden fighting groal

[north shore]

No one is ‘infected’ in MGRR

And it’s made clear many times that the people profiting off of this are people like Sundowner and Armstrong who get rich by basically selling these cyborgs, these people, into wars

[wispy berry]

Wait but their infected because their getting brainwashed by the nanobots cuz the cyborgs

[formal mural]

they're infected because of the radiance

[wispy berry]

Yeah exactly that too!

[north shore]

Or in the case of the game’s actual plot, training a bunch of kids into being obedient soldiers that take pleasure in killing and enjoyment in war

Wow, metal gear sure is a series full of fun and whimsy

[opaque sigil]

and VERY subtle

[north shore]

“Like the good old days after 9/11”

SUBTLETY

[formal mural]

crazy that reactionary edgelords larp this game that's so very obviously an insult to them and everything they stand for

[opaque sigil]

"Remember WMDs in Iraq?"

[north shore]

“They enjoy it though, we give their dopamine receptors a nice jolt every time.”

[formal mural]

mistral feels kinda shoehorned in ngl. armstrong represents how national politics relate to imperialism, sundowner represents the war economy, sam represents purposelessness, monsoon represents the denial of free will, khamsin directly represents the US soldier, mistral just kinda enjoys killing people

[opaque sigil]

Mistral's a fanatic

[formal mural]

sucks that she's so narratively shallow her theme is a BANGER

[opaque sigil]

she could've been better introduced and the theme does a lot of the heavy lifting but establishes her as an outsider who found a place that accepted and radicalized her

[north shore]

I mean the game basically plays it out with raiden’s line “One sword keeps another in its sheath” towards the start

[north shore]

I think monsoon also helps represent the kind of people that this war economy can create, as he grew up in iirc the Cambodian genocide?

[formal mural]

under pol pot im pretty sure

which is his own entire can of worms

[north shore]

I think some of her dialogue before the fight also helps a lot

But she definitely could’ve been better done

[opaque sigil]

yeah, curse of short run time

[north shore]

Honestly I think it would’ve been better if R-01 had no boss and was used to introduce mistral just as other chapters introduce other bosses, then R-02 has the mistral fight.

[formal mural]

mistral maybe represents class traitorship with her choosing to join the imperialist complex and abandon the 3rd world

[formal mural]

wasn't r-02 grad or some shit

[opaque sigil]

the osts are an important part of characterizing some bosses and mistral is one of them

[north shore]

It would be a good improvement of imo the worst chapter in the game (R-O2)

[formal mural]

im gonna be fr i didn't really like grad

[north shore]

I just don’t like the file as a whole

It feels a bit like a chore

I still tend to enjoy playing it, as I enjoy all MGRR gameplay, but of all the chapters the game has to offer, it’s the one I would rather play the least

Even removed from the fact that it has no boss, it’s just kinda boring

[formal mural]

it builds the story well i think but it's not really allat interesting gameplay wise

[orchid spruce]

[formal mural]

evil shoutout to how the stealth section left me with the cardboard box equipped for the next chapter (i now have to re-equip the em grenade every time i restart monsoon)

[serene mountain]

Fighting tormented trobbio rn, this guy is def in my top 3 bosses so far

[north shore]

my current save file has both Infinite Wig B and maxed Fox Blade and it trivializes the game to an insane degree

[rocky jolt]

no way his name is Robert Topala

[formal mural]

i think monsoon would be a more fun fight if raiden could bind tbh

[north shore]

That’s a bit of a gripe I have with some of the unlockables

Like yeah I could just not use them but as it stands now when I’m not going for hitless stuff, nothing in Revengeance poses any threat to me

[north shore]

But, raiden can bind…?

Assuming you just mean heal lmao

[formal mural]

"raiden vhat ze fuck are you doing" "wren"

[formal mural]

i mean specifically in the weaver sense

[north shore]

Ah okay

Ngl I think monsoon could be more interesting if his little jumpy shit could be interrupted

Like why have him jump like 3 times to reach his spot if you’re not gonna do anything with it

imo a well timed grenade/projectile or even Sai hit should knock him down if you do it before he reaches his spot

[formal mural]

imagine mgr if hornet was the protag

she would definitely hate desperado i think

[north shore]

Hornet would get fucking BODIED

Except maybe by *mistral

[formal mural]

hornet beat gms she could beat armstrong

[north shore]

Hornet is like tiny though

[odd hull]

He's great

[north shore]

Hornet would get her shit rocked by metal gear ray

[formal mural]

okay well imagine she's not

[north shore]

Even if she was human sized she’d probably get her shit rocked by metal gear ray tbh

MGRR exists on an insane power scale

[dusk quail]

why are there silksong haters in the silksong channel i dont like this

[heady iron]

Died in the room outside pinstress's hut

[formal mural]

depends on if the fight is in 2d like silksong or 3d like mgrr

[north shore]

But honestly I’m also of the opinion that powerscaling characters from different franchises is the stupidest fucking thing anyone can do ever so

[formal mural]

it's fun to have these little thought experiments

[north shore]

If it’s 2D she’s dead, if it’s 3D she’s dead slightly slower

[formal mural]

clawline could dodge the beams, missiles she could probably block

could definitely run fast enough to avoid the bullets

needle strike to take care of the armor

[cunning geode]

friendscaling is better. see how well characters can hang out and chill together

[formal mural]

hornet and raiden negdiff i think

shakra & omni man too maybe

[north shore]

Ngl I think Sam and Bell Beast would be chill af

[cunning geode]

all the fan stuff of doomguy getting along really well with master chief doesnt feel right. samus and doomguy might be chill though, but master chief is like a block of a man

[formal mural]

when i think of characters from multiple series becoming friends i think about traumabonding

[north shore]

Doomguy and Master Chief don’t get along but Master Chief behaves for Isabelle’s sake

Or maybe Doomguy behaves for Isabelle’s sake

She’d just fuck them both up if they fight ngl

[north shore]

Link and Hornet would probably get along tbh

[vivid belfry]

I'm also a fan of the opposite, "propose a duo that just would not work at all"

[cunning geode]

ari and wilbo

[formal mural]

thragg and hornet

[north shore]

Bill Cipher and Tenna

(I’ve never played DR)

[vivid belfry]

Jack Vine is their auspistice

[leaden delta]

Idk!

[vivid belfry]

alright that was a pretty good line to go out on, somebody can kill me now

[north shore]

HWYLA and WAWLA

[leaden delta]

like

[north shore]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[floral delta]

Hai Nix

[formal mural]

nailsmith speech bubble

[north shore]

hi cute

[floral delta]

[leaden delta]

I can think of me and men and maybe. maybe ame and the mask

but maybe that’s recency bias. no it’s more like it’s the only thing on my mind cuz I JUST finished watchpartying it with my besties

[north shore]

Lemonade and caviar

Okay actually that doesn’t sound that bad

[leaden delta]

the mask is 1 of 1 movies man

[vivid belfry]

are you saying it's the best movie ever made or are you saying the sequels don't exist

[leaden delta]

son of the mask

YES OBV FORMER

[vivid belfry]

no I know about son of the mask but some people would prefer to pretend it doesn't exist

[north shore]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5J4BvRWEAAG_Ni.gif

[formal mural]

lace and tec-xx would get along maybe

lace and blade wolf probably

lace after the yayy awesome ending

[cunning geode]

...the deep knowledge check...

[broken seal]

😭🙏

[orchid spruce]

holy shit, afterimage parry

this game is finally playable

[leaden delta]

ok fair

but

[flat remnant]

i always thought it was interesting how the mask was kind of fantasy male wish fulfillment

[flat remnant]

unrelated to that he's kind of an magical girl

[flat remnant]

he's kind of meek and then tries to change himself and be cool so the woman he likes likes him and then he realizes he should just be himself and save the day

[ornate perch]

[vestal igloo]

well actually I have a question about

who is sherma?

[smoky dagger]

Character in silksong

Plays little songs

Looks like that

Vaguely

[formal mural]

the GOAT

[vestal igloo]

right.. I see

[smoky dagger]

That's a lot closer to what she looks like

I think sherma is a she but it's hk all the men and women just look like bugs

[vestal igloo]

couple of bugs but sure

[ancient mortar]

hes confirmed a dude later in the game.

[smoky dagger]

See I'd never even know that because I didn't read any of the dialogue or play the game

[ancient mortar]

called he in the whiteward quest description

and thats basically the only reason we know tbh

most assume hes a girl

[smoky dagger]

tbf sherma is almost the same name as Herm which is a dudes name I think

[night canopy]

time to wait 90 years for zoteboat fr

[formal mural]

didn't zoteboat already drop

[night canopy]

nuh

[formal mural]

https://tankprogramming.itch.io/zoteboat ?

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/containment-breach-rain-world-slug-cat-gif-11050253756124123148

[formal mural]

im playing zoteboat rn

[flat remnant]

when are they going to release grubfather adventure

[smoky dagger]

Grubfather is a murderer

How dare he eat all of his children, in order from them to melt in his belly acid to be digested

[flat remnant]

that doesn't answer my question at all

[ancient mortar]

technically he didn't kill them

[smoky dagger]

I disagree with that idea

He laughs maniacally

About slaughtering them with his stomach

[ancient mortar]

lore wise iirc its part of their life cycle for them to become grubberflies

the grubs i mean not the father

[smoky dagger]

Yeah I just don't agree I've heard that though

[flat remnant]

anyone watch anything cool lately

[dense oasis]

Strive is best OST

[flat remnant]

that's true i am fond of disaster of passion

a lot of people like town inside me and it's just fine i think

[opaque sigil]

a cure for wellness, really good cinematography

[flat remnant]

kind of sucks verbinski's newest movie flopped

3 bombs in a row

[opaque sigil]

I enjoyed it

[smoky dagger]

What

Nevermind that was too long of a message to have to retype

[formal mural]

im looking at your message rn WHAT did you say that could POSSIBLY be vulgar

[smoky dagger]

Oh it's because I typed the name of caseoh's waterpark I bet

[formal mural]

wait

[smoky dagger]

It includes a potentially banned word I think

[formal mural]

nvm

[smoky dagger]

Mhmm

[formal mural]

OH

[flat remnant]

did they ban the synonym for henchmen

[smoky dagger]

Mhmm

[dense oasis]

Why is that your profile picture

It looks bad.

[flat remnant]

how will we discuss goings-on in the criminal underworld 😔

[formal mural]

honestly commitment to the- iwillcutyoudownbreakyouapartsplaythegoreofyourprofaneformacrossthestarsiwillgrindyoudownuntiltheverysparkscryformercymyhandsshallrelishendingyouhereandnow /ref

[smoky dagger]

I think clippy for a while was like a symbol of fighting against the internet being overtaken by bots and AI

Which is cool in a way even if he looks lame

[formal mural]

against corporate enshittification

[dense oasis]

Skill issue 👍

[smoky dagger]

W

[old compass]

it's a western thing so I only heard about it

[smoky dagger]

Does your name imply you're 2% away from 100% silksong
If so
What's left

[old compass]

mask and spool called it

[dense oasis]

Like a singular mask shard and spool shard

[old compass]

I KNEW IT

[formal mural]

is this guy a cappie

[smoky dagger]

Oh fair

[dense oasis]

You are a cappie

[formal mural]

says skill issue and resorts to namecalling class consciousness level is officially -161

[flat remnant]

ain't that the guy from super mario brothers

[dense oasis]

What does ts even mean 💔

[smoky dagger]

I have Super Consciousness

[dense oasis]

Socrates ahh 🥀

[smoky dagger]

It's better than your version

[orchid spruce]

[smoky dagger]

I think about everyone on earth all the time and consider things from their perspective above my own perfectly
With my eighty five billion IQ

[formal mural]

can you conduct an analysis of modern class antagonisms

[orchid spruce]

please play afterimage

[smoky dagger]

Depends on the country

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/kot-cat-plaża-beach-woda-gif-5025613992274508130

[smoky dagger]

And culture

But yeah

[dense oasis]

+23 Modern class antagonisms, rooted in 19th-century Marxist theory but evolved for the 21st century, represent the ongoing, structural conflict of interest between those who own the means of production (capital/bourgeoisie) and those who must sell their labor power (proletariat). While technology and globalization have shifted the form of these struggles, the core antagonism remains: the exploitation of labor for profit and the concentration of wealth among a few, resulting in an "us vs. them" divide

[formal mural]

shit mb comrade

[vestal igloo]

ok?

[cerulean sable]

sea of sorrow please give us a blue BG

[dense oasis]

Okay?

[smoky dagger]

Ummm......
Okaaaayy???????

[formal mural]

ok ❤️ yay ❤️ /ref

[cerulean sable]

fuck actually no instead of lifeblood it should be like like the coast near the ocean

[orchid spruce]

afterimage?

[smoky dagger]

Bro I think the ok? Has to be like #1 most annoying passive aggressive things

[dense oasis]

Wpopoff got 62 on society btw

[smoky dagger]

Whenever people do that to me in person I wanna rip my head off and slam it against a wall

[flat remnant]

it's going to be one of these dull ones

[dreamy locust]

yess ❤️

[smoky dagger]

Especially imagine joining a conversation you weren't in to do that
Crazy activity

[formal mural]

calm down comrade
it is not thunder that grows flowers but rain

[cerulean sable]

prussian please, royal is too bright blue

the slight greenish blue is the best type of blue

i hate overly contrasted color

[smoky dagger]

In person it does that
Online everything is non-serious and for giggles

[flat remnant]

i do like the parallel of hollow knight being a very blue game having a very red DLC and silksong being the vice versa

[dreamy locust]

if the rumours are true we get SoS within 20 days 🧐

[formal mural]

online is only an evolution of the manners in which ideology spreads and evolves
it's dialectical you see /ref

[dense oasis]

This game fell off

[formal mural]

me when i bullshit through my teeth

[dense oasis]

From half the planet talking about the game... To this 💀

[dreamy locust]

wait what is "this" ?

[cerulean sable]

blue tier list

[formal mural]

"half the planet" only gaf about how funny it was that it took so long to make

[dense oasis]

A game called silksong, you might have heard of it

[dreamy locust]

I LOVE THE SKY COLOURS RAHHH

[formal mural]

real numbers vs mental illnesses type shit

[dreamy locust]

no but u said "... to this"

[dense oasis]

I only learned what silksong was until I looked in the steam discussion page

[smoky dagger]

Giggle giggle

[cerulean sable]

Warno has the best looking blue in UI and it should be something every game should strive for

[dense oasis]

Incorrect, I was referring to "this" as in "this game fell off"

[flat remnant]

i'm fond of velvet room blue

[formal mural]

I LOVE THIS AESTHETIC

[flat remnant]

it wouldn't be good for silksong but it's my preference

[cerulean sable]

Velvet room blue is too much blue but it makes sense so ill let it pass

[dreamy locust]

ah mb

[formal mural]

dark sanctuary my goat

[cerulean sable]

Sea of Sorrow blue should be more like lifeblood

as compensation for taking Karak from us

Karak can stay dead tho

RIP in peppprino Khann LMFAO

[flat remnant]

i'm mixed because i dislike the art direction of 3 reload but serieswide it's a very good aesthetic

[dreamy locust]

who is the financier in the middle

[flat remnant]

i'm playiing 3 fes right now and it's not as bright but it's still distinct yk

[formal mural]

i don't even come close to having a clue what media this is from but the aesthetic is awesome

[flat remnant]

i like this one

[flat remnant]

igor

[dreamy locust]

w name

[flat remnant]

it's from the persona series, it's the same room but it changes depending on the who is currently visiting it

i spent too long trying to find a better image for the one on the right bleh

curse you non-fixed camera angles

the idea is that there is a great tragedy about to befall the protagonist's immediate surroundings, due to either some supernatural entity or individual bad actors, usually both, and the protagonist is summoned to the velvet room so they can get the proper tools and guidance to save it

it's mostly the hub where you get new personas which are the individual things you use to fight during the RPG battles

[lavish apex]

is it in literally all of them?

i've only played 5 royal

[flat remnant]

it's a series which means it's bound to have recurring elements even outside of gameplay

i really really like the velvet room it's awesome aesthetically it has some great plot beats especially in 5 and i like the attendants

[lavish apex]

i know mainline smt has like different things for fusion

[flat remnant]

yeah the velvet room isn't in that

i always found the versions in p1 and the 2 duology quaint i don't know how else to put it

[opaque sigil]

all I'll say is blue prince

in terms of good lookin blues

[flat remnant]

what do you mean there's canonically someone who plays the piano and sings the ost meaning it's diagetic and they never make a physical appearance after p2EP that's awesome

[orchid spruce]

the blue prince glaze has gotten out of control

[flat remnant]

what's wrong with it

[orchid spruce]

just a stupid joke

[kind tide]

Erm, FELLAS?

[weak dock]

what

[kind tide]

shaw

[weak dock]

SHAW

[timid sky]

i prefere the other glacial

[weak dock]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-dance-hollow-knight-hornet-hornet-hollow-knight-shaw-hornet-gif-15263004955473135436

[kind tide]

[flat remnant]

what if instead of shaw she said gyatt

[weak dock]

no son 😭

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-man-gif-9804261718830123352

[desert abyss]

ToT

[timid sky]

she doesnt even know what that is

shes only ever seen loogilee

and lazio

thats it

[flat remnant]

how does she know what loogilee and lazio are

[timid sky]

chef loogilee and lost lazio

[formal mural]

what if instead of shaw she said sure? /ref

[unkempt prairie]

I dreamt of playing sea of sorrow last night

[exotic cedar]

Damn that must have been a nightmare

[orchid spruce]

what is bro doing here

[umbral ether]

what's wrong with fez

[candid kayak]

you wear it with the tunic, duh

[silver oak]

@fringe violet

[hybrid flare]

outer PEAKS mentioned

[flat remnant]

i think outer wilds isn't ball knowledge anymore

[orchid spruce]

i want all of those games

except fez

who invited fez

[flat remnant]

fez isn't bad

[orchid spruce]

i don't have money anyways

or the hardware to play

i just like looking at offers i can't buy and drool over them

[plucky stag]

i have fez on my list, only because epic games was giving it away for free in 2019 around the time i got my pc copy of celeste (also free from epic)

[plucky stag]

i'm currently 3/5 on this bundle and i plan to play the other two at some point

[orchid spruce]

i want animal well so bad

[flat remnant]

i never finished fez i kind of got bored

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/begging-please-please-im-begging-you-man-held-back-man-being-held-back-gif-11049588767320746688

[flat remnant]

animal well is great

you get a yoyo in this

there's a mechanic involving a frisbee i discovered and i loved it a lot gra

[cursive torrent]

Every single game in here is at least an 8/10

Animal well is very good as well

[orchid spruce]

but if i buy animal well now, i can't buy poptlc when it's on sale

or silksong, if the dlc is godsent and fixes the game

or giantess dating sim

sorry, poptlc

hello animal well

[lavish apex]

did you
refund silksong?

or just 🏴‍☠️

[mystic phoenix]

everyone should delete slopsong its so bad

[formal mural]

WHE

[flat remnant]

i agree but you can't be saying this while playing this

[orchid spruce]

i silksong bcz me had no money then. and when i started having money, i was no longer in my silksong phase.

[mystic phoenix]

silksong is still worst game ever

[graceful oyster]

Animal Well is a good game but I did not like it very much

[orchid spruce]

ello

have you played shinobi

i tried looking up the first boss but it wasn't impressive

[graceful oyster]

Me? No

[orchid spruce]

oh ok

I NEED GOOD BOSSES

i am in a boss drought

[exotic cedar]

Get a job and then fight your boss

[orchid spruce]

lmao

[flat remnant]

have you played this obscure indie title called super mario brothers

[orchid spruce]

it doesn't seem like a game that'd have good bosses

[hybrid flare]

ds3

[orchid spruce]

you're mean

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/oye-cat-enough-stop-petting-gif-8639785326678511628

[hybrid flare]

rawdog it at 144p

[fervent bough]

I've gotten myself addicted to silksong again. I don't remember anything so it's like I'm doing a first playthrough again

Although the bosses feel alot easier then I remember them. Maybe it's muscle memory kicking in

[orchid spruce]

😭

i will unironically try it

bloodborne, is it not

[fervent bough]

I remember beating this game back in September and it was so much harder. Mainly bugs doing 2 masks of damage per hit but now everything does like 1

[plucky stag]

bingo

[orchid spruce]

i will try bloodborne, and see if my potato can handle it

[lavish stratus]

I don't know if you're serious, but I agree to some extent.

[plucky stag]

still going to try and finish mio before subnautica 2 drops

got about 3 more days of playtime

[fervent bough]

I wouldn't say worst game 'Ever' go play that gollum game to upgrade your tier listen 😂

Or maybe that lesbian knight game that just came out. I cant remember the name of it

[plucky stag]

has anyone here played fez

[orchid spruce]

Silksong is very good, just not a masterpiece or the best ever as too many praise it to be

[plucky stag]

because i heard it's a short game i could knock down quickly

[plucky stag]

if i had to be granular i'd give both hollow knight and silksong a 9.8/10

[orchid spruce]

I think you could google fez gamelength

[plucky stag]

but because i round things to the nearest 0.5 they're both 10/10 games in my eyes

[fervent bough]

I dunno I loved the first time I played it. The combat is good, the art design is amazing, the lore is extremely deep and the devs love the game

[orchid spruce]

Silksong is like an 8 for me

[lavish stratus]

Out of 20?

[fervent bough]

I can't wait until sea of sorrow comes out

[orchid spruce]

out of 10, but that's because i played it multiple times

if i had stopped at my first playthrough, silksong would be a 6

[lavish stratus]

I would like Silksong more if I hadn't gotten my hopes so high over the seven years of waiting.

[fervent bough]

I didn't struggle too hard to beat it on my first attempt back during version 1.0

[orchid spruce]

same

[fervent bough]

This was my very first Metroid vania and I've never played the original hollow Knight

[orchid spruce]

my issue with the game isn't its difficulty

[lavish stratus]

I feel the only thing it really does well is combat, and even that has weaknesses with red tools.

[fervent bough]

The hardest boss fight for me was against shakra

I don't know why but I struggled massively against her

[orchid spruce]

it's an ass bossfight

[hybrid flare]

NO

bloodborne is unironically the most resource consuming for pc

because the emulator sucks, even i need to run optimization mods

[orchid spruce]

you saved my laptop from exploding

[lavish stratus]

To be fair, a lot of Silksong's bosses are bad

[orchid spruce]

[fervent bough]

Because it's a old game that will never get a remaster

[hybrid flare]

And bb's basegame bosses fall off lategame

[orchid spruce]

i will never get to play orphan of peak

[hybrid flare]

It could js get a regular port and things would be fine

[fervent bough]

Doubt it'll happen

[hybrid flare]

BB isn't the best boss-average wise but it has the best peaks

[orchid spruce]

ok, ds3 then

[hybrid flare]

Imo it is quite close to one even if it has questionable game design choices

[fervent bough]

Pretty sure whoever owns bloodborn hates the title

[orchid spruce]

i will try to squeeze my eyes and play at 144p

[fervent bough]

So it won't ever get a port or remaster

[orchid spruce]

[hybrid flare]

I liked shakra, i had to be always on the edge to react

[fervent bough]

The best boss fight for me is that teleporting boss you find in the area youre kidnapped

[orchid spruce]

I never like it when a boss snipes me offscreen

[hybrid flare]

Valid but imo she's not even in my top 5

[fervent bough]

I can't remember the name. It's been so long ago

[hybrid flare]

First sinner

You play bloodborne for the art

[fervent bough]

The PS3 graphics

[hybrid flare]

It didnt age that well but not horribly either, it doesn't look like hyper realistic ue5 slop at least

[fervent bough]

I hate that in 10 years people will consider it hard on the eyes

[orchid spruce]

I can't enjoy the art at 144p

[fervent bough]

That's what I was thinking too 😂

[hybrid flare]

Yeah bloodborne wouldn't run at 144p for you either

[fervent bough]

You could always get a cheap PS3 and buy the game

[hybrid flare]

bb is a ps4 game

[orchid spruce]

[fervent bough]

They go for like $50 on ebay

[hybrid flare]

😭

[orchid spruce]

$50 is NOT cheap

[fervent bough]

Oh is it

[hybrid flare]

If you want to take a look at ps3 graphics check out demon's souls lmao

BB doesnt look that dated

[fervent bough]

?

That's like a meal in today's economy 😭

[hybrid flare]

Towel are you an undead by any chance

[orchid spruce]

i am just from a 3rd world

[fervent bough]

I'm off to grind the game. I need to unlock the traversal abilities

[graceful oyster]

$50 is not cheap for a game
$50 is cheap for a bottle of good whiskey

[orchid spruce]

gudluck

[graceful oyster]

People should be buying more whiskey

[hybrid flare]

60 bucks is the norm for games in this day btw

[fervent bough]

A PS3 isn't a game though

I was wrong about the console generation so it doesn't matter

[orchid spruce]

dark souls 3 is 25GB...

even my D disk doesn't have that much

[hybrid flare]

Like 60 dobloons for slop??

[hybrid flare]

Oh yeah i forgot that disk is also a thing

[orchid spruce]

my E has barely enough

[trail holly]

thanks

[torpid swift]

hi mio person

[graceful oyster]

Hello fang

[hybrid flare]

Atp dont bother mate

[orchid spruce]

2 mutual friends

marcy and greg?

[torpid swift]

Wao

[orchid spruce]

hello

[timid sky]

hi mio people

[torpid swift]

I met them both in a server of a game INARI. I see them both being a nine sols fan like me

[timid sky]

I am also a mio person

[orchid spruce]

ah you're from INARI

[torpid swift]

hello another mio person

[graceful oyster]

Hello proph

[timid sky]

Yo

[graceful oyster]

What's nine sols

[orchid spruce]

i was in INARI for a while then they added the phone number requirement

[torpid swift]

I wonder...

[orchid spruce]

[torpid swift]

oh they did that?

[graceful oyster]

...?

[torpid swift]

Nine Sols is um....

[orchid spruce]

yeah, prob to protect from all the fetish arts

that initial period was pretty wild

[torpid swift]

oh yeah 💔

keigo

[timid sky]

Idk what inari is
It feels like something ive heard the name of but never seen images

[orchid spruce]

its the good kind of INARI

[torpid swift]

There's the evil one alright

[orchid spruce]

not the one you see on Steam

[graceful oyster]

This is how I'm feeling about nine sols

[orchid spruce]

is inari a metroidvania, i forgot

my memories say it's a hack and slash first and foremost

but it has some metroidvania elements

[torpid swift]

yeah

it's just mostly a back and slash platformer though I think

[orchid spruce]

the entirety of nine sols speedrun server morphed into inari speedrun server for a month

[torpid swift]

not pure metroidvania. For now at least

[orchid spruce]

it was fun

yeah i see

[timid sky]

ive basically never heard of hack and slash
what games are hack and slash

[silk monolith]

hades

[torpid swift]

it's like when you slash your way into enemies

[orchid spruce]

it feels similar to katana zero

[silk monolith]

hack n slash roguelite hades is

[orchid spruce]

and inspired by katana zero

[torpid swift]

mhmm

[timid sky]

sounds a bit like dead cells

[silk monolith]

yeah dead cells too

[torpid swift]

yeah

[orchid spruce]

they REALLY need to cook up a way to deal with projectiles thogh

as of now, its just kunai teleport and pray

[torpid swift]

lmao

I remember dying 115 times on my first playthrough of the demo

[orchid spruce]

i died 96 times

too much

[silk monolith]

you shouldve died 69 times

[orchid spruce]

i wish i was that good

[silk monolith]

what game

[glossy nebula]

Never played hades but I was on 3 boss cells ind ead cells

[orchid spruce]

INARI

[torpid swift]

INARI, the 2d sidescroller

[silk monolith]

never heard of it is it good

[orchid spruce]

its demo has been taken down though, lost media

[torpid swift]

I still have one on my laptop

[silk monolith]

thats amazing dude i only had 1 boss cell

[orchid spruce]

it's pretty good, issue with the projectiles imo

[glossy nebula]

Lost mentioned

[glossy nebula]

The true ending requires 5 boss cells

[orchid spruce]

i may still have the demo on my laptop

[glossy nebula]

And I got bored

Castlevania ending was enough for me

[orchid spruce]

nope, i deleted it. lost media.

[silk monolith]

well fuck i know the game recommends playing with a controller but i js suck with it

[glossy nebula]

I played it on mobile

With netflix.

All dlcs included for free

[silk monolith]

i never even got to the final boss after i got the 1 boss cell

[glossy nebula]

The controls where ok, could be better

[exotic cedar]

Idk why it says that tbh

[glossy nebula]

Try to

There are multiple ways to end the run

The only way to get more boss cells is to defeat the main boss tho

[torpid swift]

A real lost media now..

[silk monolith]

im always tempted with the cursed sword and die in the next area lmao

[glossy nebula]

If I was playing it on pc I am sure I would have ginished it

[exotic cedar]

You can get boss cells from castlevania dlc and tqats final bosses too

[silk monolith]

i bought 0 dlc by the way

maybe i should idk

prolly not

[exotic cedar]

Dlcs are very good

[silk monolith]

thats what ive heard

[glossy nebula]

It didnt give me

[desert abyss]

Dead cells?

[silk monolith]

yes

[glossy nebula]

On mobile version, when I defeated dracula it didnt give me

[silk monolith]

deadcells-discussion

[glossy nebula]

It was a very satisfying boss fight

Better than the normal one

Nearly finished the lighthouse boss

[exotic cedar]

Wiki says you can get it

[desert abyss]

[glossy nebula]

But died in the end

[exotic cedar]

Its very janky

[glossy nebula]

Maybe because I was playing the mobile netflix port

[glossy nebula]

The best boss in game

[silk monolith]

still cant believe netflix has dead cells lmao

[desert abyss]

Maybe?
I got boss cell

[exotic cedar]

Queen is better for me

[glossy nebula]

I said didnt beat her

I died on her workers in the lighthouse

[exotic cedar]

But honestly the bosses arent really amazing when you can melt them in 5 seconds, scroll scaling in the game sucks shit

[silk monolith]

queen is true ending boss?

[torpid swift]

better? I hardly know her!

[exotic cedar]

No, just another ending

[glossy nebula]

No

[silk monolith]

whos the first guy? general right

[desert abyss]

No, the kings hand is

[glossy nebula]

True ending you need 5 boss cells beat the normal ending and open the doors

[glossy nebula]

That is normal boss

Normal ending

True ending you need to pass through the door after beating him

You would need 5 boss cells for it

[desert abyss]

Correct

[silk monolith]

kings hand? ned stark

[desert abyss]

I didnt play the game in a while

[silk monolith]

idk if i can do 5 boss cells lmao

im not good enough

[exotic cedar]

I think 3bc is the biggest wall

[desert abyss]

I got to 3bc

[glossy nebula]

Wait really

[exotic cedar]

4bc buffs the player with enemy teleportation (if you use it well)

[glossy nebula]

I was at 3bc when I quit

[exotic cedar]

When i played on my laptop i got stuck in 3bc a bit