sk-discussion

[terse heart]

wish me luck I'm doing beastfly on silksoul

TICKING ME OFF

oh yeah

[old compass]

ok now do lava

[tired depot]

What to use for the cogwork dancers?

[lost torrent]

Wtf is Mount Fay. I've been stuck there for a whole day and I JUST got faydown cloak. My thumbs are throbbing 😭

[proud gull]

#sk-help

[heady iron]

ship Phantom and Second Sentinel, call that Phantinel

[jagged crest]

just noticed on one of my steel soul runs that the music in mosshome is basically the same as in the marrow

[toxic vigil]

phentinel

[jagged crest]

just with the main melodies switched

[manic knoll]

hi guys do you recomend silksong

[broken seal]

sure

[manic knoll]

ok btw and do peopel still do geoguessers around here

[broken seal]

maybe some people lol

i used to but i haven't in a long time so i'm rusty

[cedar bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1120737601222098974.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dusk quail]

hi chat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1502335142075695324/ezgif-790d2abea2246b65-1.gif

[slim kestrel]

why is Ari always online these days

[broken seal]

because SoS is tomorrow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332161685196374095/1380557384476262512/attachment.gif

[slim kestrel]

holy shit fr

[broken seal]

No

[slim kestrel]

wdym no why

it's literally tomorrow

[broken seal]

[slim kestrel]

false

[broken seal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385328083095130194/1493919674449264711/tenor_15.gif

[versed pollen]

Phantonio

[dusk quail]

to watch us as we descend into insanity

or all the SoS assets are done so now he's scrolling the meme channel

[versed pollen]

Okay this joke is nonsense

I was going to say Antonio Phantano but decided last second to drop the Antonio but it sneaked up on me

[dusk quail]

i used to call salami that save for the last part being -ella

[slim kestrel]

wdym descend into insanity, been there for good 6 years

[dusk quail]

im speaking relative terms rn

[thin yacht]

deltarune is Tomorrow?

[high sparrow]

Ahh i remember

What 1984 was like

....california

[slim kestrel]

sure

chapter 5

[dusk quail]

any mention of california and georgia reminds me of that stupid fucking song

[high sparrow]

What song?

[slim kestrel]

geofornia

[narrow bramble]

No its day 15th

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234981461485027379/1503388855443787776/image.png?ex=6a032b7a&is=6a01d9fa&hm=81472d6f912bf4b9448315f9985d48a6e20c0fc53bf57143caef55a4a72b5dcb&

[dusk quail]

have you not seen the trend where people pin stuffed animals to the wall pretending theyre angry at their gf while mouthing out the lyrics to"'you told me you loved me in calofrnia you told me you met him ingeorgia" or some fucking bullshi

[high sparrow]

Average day in california be like

[high sparrow]

Oh yeah that one i remember,

[dusk quail]

why is this relatable

[high sparrow]

Isnt that trend old now?

[dusk quail]

its still STUCK IN MY HEAD

[narrow bramble]

Bc they are drowning in the sea trying to escape an evil ass duck who eats them and make eggs of human ducks

[dusk quail]

omg so wise

[narrow bramble]

Now here's another dlc example of silksong
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1494065982384115813/1503222586929188885/516601017484bd327951b64e0c32a3ad.png?ex=6a0290a1&is=6a013f21&hm=68c8959cccb2a2d1499333df3b459b1f965a3bd7e057182deb6a2b8246a77c0f&

This shows a person in form of an animal

Meaning we will have steel city in december 26th

[high sparrow]

I didnt know hornet was taking lsd

[sage glade]

how it feels to have your deadline at 12 noon

[teal ridge]

an animal like this doesnt exists

no animal on 4's have long feet

[cerulean sable]

Whst if hornets needle was a bullpup

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-master-chief-i-need-a-weapon-weapon-weapons-gif-18674787

[quartz cave]

Hello gays

[cunning geode]

aye

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/james-wilson-house-md-gregory-house-sparkle-on-and-be-yourself-wednesday-gif-10694982973253766125

Happy wilson wednesday

[cunning geode]

false prophet

[quartz cave]

Nah

I have divine power

[high sparrow]

What if hornet wield guts greatsword?

Now hear me out tho

[quartz cave]

Apollo himself granted me the power seeing the future

[high sparrow]

That be peak

[quartz cave]

Like for example i prophesize outbound will release today

Wouldnt you know it it has happened

[serene mountain]

rune rage is carrying me so hard on coral tower rn

[quartz cave]

Outbounds out chat

You could even say outbound is out of its bounds

(Apollo also granted me the power of poetry)

[vale whale]

too many colour names in chat

we are being monitored

[high sparrow]

Guys

What if

[quartz cave]

no

[high sparrow]

Hornet wields guts great sword

[cunning geode]

like Sly?

[heady iron]

final fantasy invented big swords

[broken seal]

big brother is watching ahh

[stable mica]

y does the community thinks Shaw and Hegale slurs

[broken seal]

cuz it's funny asf if you interpet it that way

[high sparrow]

Yeah

[dusk quail]

because they removed them from silksong because team cherry is WOKE

the woke left ruining things ONCE AGAIN

smh

[charred tiger]

GUYS SEA OF SORROW GOT ANNOUNCED

i lied

[cunning geode]

yeah

[charred tiger]

sorry

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/baiken-justice-guilty-gear-xx-accent-core-plus-r-acpr-gif-10276830541767236591

[charred tiger]

ow

[dusk quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330212552180764693/1459769260824985834/ezgif-84e3ab5e1fbc4b22.gif

[charred tiger]

NOOO

[stable mica]

yeah ik

[high sparrow]

But hornet saying that is fine tho cause shes half weaver

[stable mica]

fair

[dusk quail]

yeah but shes half Wyrm so its like ehhhhh

[fiery burrow]

weavers are the oppressors bro 🥀

[charred tiger]

fleas are food

[teal ridge]

hi

[high sparrow]

Well are you gonna stop her?

[plucky stag]

4 hours and 22 minutes later, another mio session has concluded

spent the vast majority of it in (true ending spoilers) ||the crucible||

i could have saved a lot of time there if ||i had thought to use gratitude from the start (the hiveblood equivalent)||

[fiery burrow]

oof

[plucky stag]

screenshots

removing so many markers felt good

[hybrid flare]

lwk carried

[hybrid flare]

Implied to be both

[plucky stag]

i was eventually clued in on this but only after 2+ hours without it

[hybrid flare]

did you discover the TE by yourself?

[plucky stag]

no, i am taking nudges

[hybrid flare]

Yeah it is kinda unintuitive

[plucky stag]

plus i was spoiled of its existence beforehand so i committed to it from the start

the reason i'm playing this game so much is because in approximately 72 hours subnautica 2 drops

i'm trying to finish mio's true ending before a game i had been anticipating releases

also, and this is a minor but honest question, ||where is that one npc that was trying to sell you something for 10,000 droplets (because i've amassed that much now)||

[fiery burrow]

||to the right of the belltower near the nacre solidifier||

[plucky stag]

meta stats screenshot:

[plucky stag]

i also got this game's equivalent of ||the rosary cannon|| after ||getting the "walk on gloomwater" ability||

[hybrid flare]

so there's a nacre cannon

[dusk quail]

no cuz i let my wife do anything she wants 😊

[plucky stag]

so should i really ||drop 10,000 nacre droplets on something i don't even know what it is yet||

[fiery burrow]

I don't remember that maybe I missed it

[hybrid flare]

Yeah nacre is useless otherwise

[fiery burrow]

||Its a decent reward but you might not get much use out of it||

[plucky stag]

40 hours is quite a lot; talk about bang for the buck

[plucky stag]

so this is basically the polar opposite of rosaries in silksong

nacre is too abundant, rosaries are too scarce

[hybrid flare]

Yeah

Nacre is fine there's just nothing to spend it on

[fiery burrow]

nacre is basically like geo imo

[hybrid flare]

You can actually lose meaningful amounts of geo doe

Most of your nacre comes already crystallized

[fiery burrow]

Sure although I don't really think that's a bad thing

[hybrid flare]

if there wasn't a single vendor..

[opaque sigil]

I mean old cores change the general dynamic a lot

[hybrid flare]

Nacre is so abundant they had to add another currency for stuff to not be basically free 💔

[slender juniper]

RIP steam Subnautica 2 preorders just launched

[plucky stag]

at least that ensures steam won't crash again like it did in september

team cherry really should have allowed pre purchases

[slender juniper]

It's lagging rn anyways💀

[plucky stag]

at least now i know i can buy it before it unlocks in 72 hours

[slender juniper]

And the Subnautica discord server is in chaos

[plucky stag]

there's no rush for me to spend my money now if i can't play it until thursday anyway

this is basically just spreading out the demand so the servers don't melt down on thursday

[slender juniper]

The Subnautica discord is going 70 message per minute

[plucky stag]

it's their turn now

i actually have a recording of this channel in the final 15 minutes before the game launched + the first 10 minutes after the launch

ours was more frantic

[slender juniper]

Crazy because the devs didnt know there were going to be pre orders

So it's a surprise for them too

[cerulean sable]

Nothing says "space facism is forgivable as long as you look cool" better than Star Wars

[hybrid flare]

Warhammer:

[opaque sigil]

Early accessslop (Subnautica) vs early accessgem (sts2)

[orchid spruce]

earlyacess reviewnuked (sts2)

[cerulean sable]

Survival slop vs rogue slop

[cunning geode]

uh this is actually starship troopers, duh

[cerulean sable]

I know th3 answer

[opaque sigil]

Ah yes the franchise that notoriously glorifies space fascism

[cerulean sable]

I dknt actually watch Star Wars ngl i just wanna throw shade at it

[cunning geode]

darth droideka is cool tho

[cerulean sable]

I do know Starship Troopers is a paraody of jingoistic Americans but the original book was serious about it

[slender juniper]

You get a 10% discount for the game if you have both Subnautica and BZ in your library

[opaque sigil]

I wanna you to watch andor but I haven’t actually finished season 2

[hybrid flare]

Andor is some good shit yeah

[cunning geode]

Rogue One is genuinely good for a star wars movie, in the way that its good on its own

[plucky stag]

i do

[cerulean sable]

I actually was interested in R 1

[hybrid flare]

They got a throwaway character from rogue one and made a great show about him

[plucky stag]

in fact i was going to play bz after mio until i found out s2 was about to come out

[opaque sigil]

Rogue one is good

[cerulean sable]

Amd wanted to get into the series until the 3rd gen trilogu came out and i was uhhhhhhhh

[opaque sigil]

Andor is a prequel to rogue 1 and so much better

[cerulean sable]

Ye im aware

[plucky stag]

it's quite pricy for me

[cerulean sable]

B4 they got glassed

[hybrid flare]

They also released maul: Shadow lord a few weeks ago but idrk much about it

[plucky stag]

it seems subnautica is one of those games that didn't get regional price adjusted

[versed pollen]

What if you were interested in Rogue Core instead of Rogue 1

[plucky stag]

i live in a country where games are basically half price or more

[cunning geode]

so ttacco you know how in the original movies the republic had to get the plans to destroy the death star by exploiting a fault in the design

its ok if you dont know that but Rogue One is entirely focused on exploring how the republic got ahold of those plans and why they exist at all

[hybrid flare]

Republic?

[cunning geode]

so it functions without really needing to watch a bunch of other movies

[hybrid flare]

Son the republic became the empire

[plucky stag]

i'll just formally buy it tomorrow or the day after

let the initial rush peter out a little

[opaque sigil]

Wombat meant rebels

[cunning geode]

the new republic, right

[hybrid flare]

The new republic didn't exist till after the battle of endor iirc

[opaque sigil]

But yes the Republic did become the empire a dynamic andor ACTUALLY explores brilliantly

[hybrid flare]

That was js the rebellion

[cunning geode]

i really thought they called the rebels the republic in the original trilogy

[opaque sigil]

Rebel alliance is what they’re generally called

[hybrid flare]

I might watch maul: Shadow lord as there wasn't much good animated stuff for a long while

people say its good

[opaque sigil]

Not that they do much with the alliance part of that coughuntilandorcough

[cunning geode]

oh maybe im thinking about how they were sometimes called "The Alliance to Restore the Republic"

[hybrid flare]

Ironically the republic wasn't that great either

[cunning geode]

make the republic great again?

[teal ridge]

Hello

[cunning geode]

heya

[teal ridge]

Goodbye

[opaque sigil]

Ok palpatine

[sharp tundra]

i live in a country where game prices are up by 40x

[slender juniper]

HOLY SHIT

💀

[plucky stag]

good grief, where do you live

and do you mean 40x more expensive than the usa

[olive dune]

Maybe a bit of a hot take, but i think Hunter's Crest is my favorite overall, what do you think?

[silk monolith]

chat is it fucked up i died 12 minutes into a steelsoul run

[carmine gyro]

Yes

[plucky stag]

just gotta shake off the kinks

sometimes you just need time to get into the groove

[fiery burrow]

Reasonable

[carmine gyro]

You gotta train in the main mode a bit more, maybe go for a speedrun achievement or something

[fiery burrow]

I think its a tie between beast witch and hunter for me

[silk monolith]

i died cause i was streaming and my laptop couldnt handle it lmao

dropped the framerate to like 3fps

[sharp tundra]

Ye

[silk monolith]

oh nah i been done with every achievement even did steel heart twice

[carmine gyro]

Oh I see

[olive dune]

btw im in my 2nd playthrou, trying to get 100% this time

[silk monolith]

you didnt get it your first time?

[olive dune]

no

[silk monolith]

how lmao

[olive dune]

i'm aiming for getting all achivements in silksong, idk how i'll do steel heart (in hk it took me 1 try only because p5 was brutal training that prepared me for all bosses)

[plucky stag]

my goodness; where is this place

[olive dune]

1st playthrou was some time ago, i decided to start from scratch rather than continuing old save file

[plucky stag]

haven't done it yet, but i would practice the act 3 segment a lot until you can do it deathless on command

thankfully the old hearts aside from seth aren't dieable

[sharp tundra]

turkey

[slender juniper]

Preorders have been out for 20 mins it's already #3 fucking top seller

WHAT THE FUCK

[plucky stag]

but there are still a few hurdles you have to clear (notably the 4 mask opening gauntlet, bell eater, hunter's march gauntlet, and lost lace to name a few)

[olive dune]

You can preorder subnautica 2?

[slender juniper]

Yes

[plucky stag]

and if you're curious about summoned savior, it's apparently doable in act 2

[olive dune]

Currently i was doing groal the great, normal enemies are worse than boss itself

[plucky stag]

something team cherry should have done as soon as they announced the price

so they could spread out the demand of hundreds of thousands of rabid fans trying to buy the game all at once

so the servers don't melt down for 2.5 hours

[hybrid flare]

how is forza on steam a top seller

[high sparrow]

Imagine playing subtanica in the big 26

[hybrid flare]

Outer peaks mogs

[olive dune]

I bought hollow knight after silksong's release, so yeah im relatively new fan

[slender juniper]

Imagine playing hollow slop

[high sparrow]

I think you mean hollow peak actually,the real slop is E33 and mixtape

[fiery burrow]

How it feels to see people who unironically play video games in 2026 debate about which ones are slop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh0rsgusmDs

[high sparrow]

Wait bro hold on i was joking💔 😭

[fiery burrow]

tf is mixtape

[toxic vigil]

hollow peak

[high sparrow]

Is a new game that came out

Is like about the 90s

[fiery burrow]

never put this slop next to E33 again

[silk monolith]

i'll never play subnautica lmao

im too scared

[high sparrow]

Subnautica isnt even that scary

[silk monolith]

but it is

[slender juniper]

Missin out

[silk monolith]

ive seen the clips its too scary for me

watch me play literally any horror game first before i even touch subnautica

[slender juniper]

The clips make it scarier than it is the reaper leviathan is so easy to dodge

There's litteraly a module for the vehicles that shock anything that touches you

[unkempt steeple]

I just remenbered people used to unironically play silksong and say they enjoyed it

[slender juniper]

What losers

[pallid plinth]

you right

[fiery burrow]

its kinda scary

[silk monolith]

i dont care still not playing

[slender juniper]

The scariest thing in the game is bumping of fish while driving your seamoth

[silk monolith]

i dont like huge bodies of water

[toxic vigil]

i still do

[silk monolith]

loesr

[pallid plinth]

silksong would have been good for its time in 2017

that shouldve been the first version of hollow knight

[fiery burrow]

nah wreck diving goes crazy

[silk monolith]

nah having hk as a reference helped silksong

[toxic vigil]

silksong is too hard at the start

[amber blade]

waiting for sea of sorrow so bad ppl start playing subnautica instead

[plucky stag]

no, because subnautica 2 is about to come out

[silk monolith]

sea of sorrow july trust

[plucky stag]

it's entirely unrelated

[amber blade]

what abt 29 may

[plucky stag]

i'm hoping the may rumors are false because i want time to try and get steel heart before any dlcs come out and make them easier

[silk monolith]

july trust

[cunning geode]

first_time.gif

[silk monolith]

you got time till july

[amber blade]

first time?

[cunning geode]

yes :)

[plucky stag]

i made some more progress in mio by the way

[silk monolith]

i too need a steelsoul save file before dlc

[amber blade]

i mean i beat both of the games true ending months ago

[cunning geode]

i mean first time experiencig a wait for hollow knight stuff

[amber blade]

yea ig

didnt rlly play hk at release

i played it back in april 2025

[silk monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-freefalling-gif-24041454

"no, not my first time"

[silk monolith]

oh so you played both games kinda back to back? how was it

[amber blade]

not back to back i completed the blasphemous series in between BUT it was fantastic

i js completed nine sols aswell

truly a fan of this metroidvania genre now

[unkempt steeple]

Do you

[trim wedge]

I tried playing blasphemous

[toxic vigil]

wdym

[trim wedge]

movement too slow for me, but the aesthetic and artstyle is cool asf

[trail holly]

are you

[trim wedge]

atmosphere asw

[silk monolith]

lotta metroidvanias

but im yet to play metroid or castlevania

[fringe mountain]

Is trobbio mandatory for unlocking act 3 or no?

[still osprey]

he is mandatory to complete Act 2 in general

You need to beat him for Vaultkeeper's Melody

[fringe mountain]

Oh yeah I forgot that thanks

I’m trying to count how many bosses are required to beat the game ( sister of the void ending )

[toxic vigil]

whats the list so far

[amber blade]

as a platformer it is but the first game is more of a soulslike and some features of metroidvania

[stable mica]

its just act2 required +4

[still osprey]

The least amount of bosses required for True ending is 16 iirc. The bosses are:

• Moss Mother
• Bell Beast
• Widow
• Great Conchflies
• Last Judge
• Cogwork Dancers
• Trobbio
• Lace 2
• Groal the Great
• Forebrothers Signis and Gron
• Grand Mother Silk
• Skarrsinger Karmelita
• Clover Dancers
• Raging Conchfly/Shrine Guardian Seth
• Crust King Khann/Nyleth
• Lost Lace

[stable mica]

oh ye im dum

i need to count the others

[toxic vigil]

well groal was skippable

[still osprey]

was

[silk monolith]

do we even need bell beast

[still osprey]

he's not on current patch

[still osprey]

for true ending yes, you need the bell for last judge

[silk monolith]

fucked up they patched vogo out

its not like everyone was doing it

[fringe mountain]

You forgot skull tyrant and savage beats fly 1 and 2

[silk monolith]

difficult enough that only a few folk did it

[still osprey]

Why would they be required

I'm pretty sure you can get enough wishes for Act 3 without those

[toxic vigil]

you absolutely can

[still osprey]

And besides, why would you do beastfly instead of broodmother. Doing beastfly would require you killing +2 bosses

[fringe mountain]

You need to complete every wish on the wish boards for act 3 or was I mislead

[still osprey]

you were mislead

[silk monolith]

you js need to donate to bone bottom and songclave and thats about it

[still osprey]

You just need a few required wishes, and 17 wishes total

[toxic vigil]

you only need 8 required and 17 points

[fringe mountain]

Oh my god I completed every single wish before even beating groal

[silk monolith]

100% runs do that

true ending isnt 100%

[still osprey]

yea for 100% the list of required bosses gets bigger for sure

[silk monolith]

oh yeah also gotta get the bellhome so gotta do fuckass silver bells and donate to bellhart glory

[fringe mountain]

I wish I knew that before struggling against savage beast fly 1 with 5 masks and no tools

[still osprey]

you don't need to do silver bells for bellhome

you just need to do the 2 bellhart donations

[silk monolith]

oh donations show up even without silver bells? alright nice

[still osprey]

you just need to talk to pavo, sell a relic, and upgrade your needle for the first donation to show up

the 2nd donation shows up in early Act 2 if you did the first

You can actually get the bellhome surprisingly early

[silk monolith]

great i hate silver bells more than anything in the game

[still osprey]

120 rosaries is 120 rosaries..

Now I wonder what the least required number of bosses is for 100% Let me ponder this for a bit

[toxic vigil]

you need atleast 2 wishes from bellhart

[graceful oyster]

Hey! Have you heard of four?

[toxic vigil]

so the 2 courier wishes

[graceful oyster]

An expedited trip out of here!

3 cheers for mauna loa

[unkempt steeple]

Nice pfp

I hope they add more courier quests

[graceful oyster]

Word spread through the grapevine

[toxic vigil]

pharloom bay delivery

[silk monolith]

dont need it fuck them bells

[unkempt steeple]

There's only one guy there from the looks of it maybe he needs stuff

[graceful oyster]

Started learning yo yo tricks

[still osprey]

Moss Mother, Bell Beast, Widow, Great Conchflies, Moss Mother 2, Savage Beastfly, Phantom, Last Judge, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2, Disgraced Chef Lugoli, Father of the Flame, First Sinner, Second Sentinel, The Unravelled, Voltvyrm, Groal the Great, Forebrothers Signis and Gron, Grand Mother Silk, Savage Beastfly 2, Gurr the Outcast, Pinstress, Skarrsinger Karmelita, Clover Dancers, Raging Conchfly, Crust King Khann, Lost Lace

That's quite a jump in numbers huh

[graceful oyster]

🤣

[silk monolith]

moss mother 2

[still osprey]

yea you need them for Weavelight

Doing this also means doing Beastfly 2 in Act 3 so you can avoid doing Fourth Chorus

Nyleth and Seth don't give any completion percent while Conchfly blocks conchcutter so that's the heart you skip out on

[silk monolith]

you dont need to wait until act 3 for beastfly 2

[still osprey]

You need to kill fourth chorus to trigger beastfly 2

[silk monolith]

yeah do it back to back

it takes like 2 seconds

[still osprey]

if we're talking about the least required bosses, skipping Fourth Chorus is optimal, since you skip a boss

which means waiting for it to disappear in Act 3 and doing Beastfly then

[silk monolith]

it disappears in act 3? what

[still osprey]

yea if you don't fight fourth chorus until Act 3 it's just, gone, and you unlock the entry automatically

[stable mica]

isnt Beastfly required for bellhome?

[still osprey]

no 😭

[silk monolith]

fuh naw 🥀

[still osprey]

^

[stable mica]

oh

[silk monolith]

talk to pavo and pay up thats it

[stable mica]

maybe my head justt kicking memories around

[still osprey]

how is there till so much confusion about wishes it's been 8 months since the game's release 😭 🙏

[toxic vigil]

what about bell eater
are they skippable

[still osprey]

yes

it would suck, but they're technically not required to beat

[silk monolith]

yeah but i feel like beastling call is beneficial in the long run

[still osprey]

wait is beastling call a %

[rich cobalt]

Hello skongers

[silk monolith]

no

[still osprey]

ok then yea bell eater is not required

[silk monolith]

only misc things are everbloom and sylphsong

52% of the game is tools the rest is skills abilities masks spool and these 2

[odd hull]

Helo

[rich cobalt]

Assuming SK DLC scales off to base SK bosse like how HK DLC does to HK,how hard is the hardest SK DLC boss gonna be?

[cerulean sable]

im expecting Abs Rad +

[silk monolith]

harder than groal

[still osprey]

28 bosses... wow

[odd hull]

Probably NKG level ig

[rich cobalt]

Absrad is like 8 times harder than NKG ,and NKG is like 4 times as hard as regular Radiance(from my experience).Now replace regular Radiance without Lost Lace as the difficulty base instead.

[stable mica]

cuz i havent replayed the game

[trim wedge]

tbh NKG is easier than most bosses in both HK and SK

[silk monolith]

is palestag considered a boss

[toxic vigil]

to me nkg > absrad

[still osprey]

yes

but palestag is also not required

[toxic vigil]

yeah but you can do the memory without it

[silk monolith]

so thats included too

[odd hull]

Most bosses in HK are sufferable easy.

[still osprey]

she's not

[odd hull]

And boring

[still osprey]

you can get to clover dancers without palestag

[trim wedge]

quality wise yes difficulty no

[still osprey]

there's enough orbs

[toxic vigil]

difficulty yes quality wise no

[silk monolith]

the light things orbs yeah

[trim wedge]

absrad is mid asf

[still osprey]

in fact, Palestag is one of the 3 bosses you can entirely miss, the other 2 being Garmond and Shakra

[silk monolith]

so after that idk where to go and always end up near the palestag lmao

[toxic vigil]

4th chorus

[rich cobalt]

I beat Lost Lace around a hour,silksong has better difficulty progression than HK when it comes to bosses,plus I had experience from an HK,though late game SK is a lot different than late game HK

[silk monolith]

i knew you only need to do one of these things so i js do the orb thing and then get lost in lost verdania and end up fighting palestag always

[still osprey]

You still have to encounter it at least

[toxic vigil]

i still really like doing silksong bosses
they are just so peak

[trim wedge]

SK base game bosses are harder than HK base game bosses ofc

[silk monolith]

flame father is not peak 😭

[still osprey]

fotf is ok

[toxic vigil]

shut up, threadstorm

[still osprey]

he could be a lot worse I think

he's just very gimmicky

[queen acorn]

fotf is the greatest boss in the game

[silk monolith]

ofc the number 1 wisp fan says this

[queen acorn]

glaze is completely warrented

[silk monolith]

i like the vibe of the area but flame father is mid as fuck

[meager jolt]

Ooooooooof

Common Father of the Flame L

[toxic vigil]

wisp thicket is too cool to be 3 rooms and the worst blue tool ever

[silk monolith]

id say hes the worst boss in the game

[queen acorn]

best*

[toxic vigil]

you stan nkg

[meager jolt]

Fr, it's one of my fav areas

[rich cobalt]

SK overall has harder bosses,but Hornet is more powerful in gameplay,so it evens out.. a bit.I was am average platformer player before playing HK though,and didn't struggle much,except in few areas and bosses.When I played Silksong,I had like 60+ hours of HK experience,beating Pantheon 5 and ascended plus radiant bosses,and stuff.

[meager jolt]

What's it to ya?

[silk monolith]

best blue tool? thats injector bands

[trim wedge]

NKG is peak tho

[toxic vigil]

i hate nkg

[trim wedge]

unlike absrad

[queen acorn]

grimm fans piss me off and im generalizing hard as hell

[meager jolt]

/j (your opinion)

[meager jolt]

:(

[queen acorn]

yeah

[silk monolith]

the only grimm i like is the one with matchstick

[trim wedge]

NKG hate is genuinely just "how can I be different"

[valid stump]

chat when m fighting skarrsinger karmelita why cant i use the craftbind w my architect crest like it takes all of my shell shards and does nothing someone PLEASE reply 🙏

[queen acorn]

no one hates nkg dude

infact its you kinda fans that

[silk monolith]

js use hunter

[toxic vigil]

the boss is too hard

i just don't enjoy it

[meager jolt]

Steak too juicy

[silk monolith]

no its not

[toxic vigil]

troupe master grimm is fine

[queen acorn]

dude

[silk monolith]

if i can beat nkg anyone can

[toxic vigil]

RAD ABSRAD WAS EASIER FOR ME

[queen acorn]

ig bro

[meager jolt]

...Different people have different strengths?

[queen acorn]

i was js saying stupid shit but it gets to a point

[valid stump]

nkg is easy

[rich cobalt]

I would say base HK is absolutely not a hard game,it can get annoying sometimes,but it is fair most of the time,even for average players,Base SK is an actually challenging game,not very fair to the casual gamer.My HK experience and skill helped a lot though,so I didn't struggle too much.

[queen acorn]

i mean

[trim wedge]

RAD is easy but annoying

[valid stump]

i love both games but MAAN is Silksong tedious.

[odd hull]

HK is easy, yes

[hybrid flare]

truth nuke

[rich cobalt]

SK is a very much a sequel,this game doesn't pull any punches

[hybrid flare]

Mfs complain about lost lace having reused attacks and then glaze rad

[valid stump]

real

[trim wedge]

every attack is either from gorb or soul tyrant btw

[toxic vigil]

i think lost lace is genuinely just worse than lace 2

[trim wedge]

nah

[hybrid flare]

Imo thats not true even though l2 is a top 5 boss

[valid stump]

chat when m fighting skarrsinger karmelita why cant i use the craftbind w my architect crest like it takes all of my shell shards and does nothing someone PLEASE reply 🙏

[trim wedge]

Lost Lace is great

[torn abyss]

lost lace easy ngl

[lilac shale]

Yall think devs will have so much fun sea of sorrow will be its own game

[dark egret]

no

may 29

[torn abyss]

wdym, may 29

they confirmed it?

[dark egret]

they didnt

but i belive

[rich cobalt]

Any GD players here,who could do a difficulty comparison with Skong gameplay?

[silk monolith]

july trust

[odd hull]

Huh

[high sparrow]

Is that..is that a blade fan?

[odd hull]

Geometry Dash?

[torn abyss]

i watch my daily sea of sorrow news, a guy said it will ciome out on may 29th not team cherry

[high sparrow]

Holy shit

[silk monolith]

july trust

[valid stump]

yo anyone 🥹 🥺 ??

[dark egret]

Gd %100 harder but silk is very hard too

[silk monolith]

whats gd

[rich cobalt]

I returned to GD and the game is just as unfair and frustrating as I remembered,it makes Skong fair in comparison

[graceful oyster]

Button clicking sim vs metroidvania

Very comparable in gameplay

[high sparrow]

Bro nice pfp

[valid stump]

geomtry dash

[torn abyss]

gd is ass when compared to skong no hate just my opinion

[valid stump]

🙏

[graceful oyster]

I hate green people, no hate, just an opinion

[rich cobalt]

GD is ass in general,I play only for the challenge

[silk monolith]

geometry dash man i didnt go past a certain level so i js stopped playing

[trim wedge]

gd isn't worth playing

[torn abyss]

gd is harder silksong is more fun

[dark egret]

ty

[trim wedge]

unless you're a masochist

[silk monolith]

gd sucks

[rich cobalt]

My best acheivement in the game is completing all the main levels,though that was years ago

[high sparrow]

Yeah no problem man i also like blade too

[meager jolt]

Agreed

[torn abyss]

i only play gd when im bored and then i get even more bored

[silk monolith]

embed failure

[trim wedge]

ahhh team cherry give me sea of sorrow

[toxic vigil]

nkg is the boss i suffer the most on
even if i can do it consistently now

[torn abyss]

lost lace easy

[potent vessel]

maybe gd isnt for you bro

[trim wedge]

I want prime phantom in godhome

[toxic vigil]

( in hk )
i hate the unraveled more

[silk monolith]

july trust

[potent vessel]

I HATE UNRAVELED GRAHHHH

[potent vessel]

no june 19th

because thats 1 day after my final exams end

[silk monolith]

july trust

[potent vessel]

yipee

[meager jolt]

May or June would be great, but I'm thinking August

[odd hull]

crazy

[rich cobalt]

NKG is great,he is a good first superboss,although repetitive

[hybrid flare]

truth nuke

[torn abyss]

best build to beat lost lace or any boss easily while still having fun

[trim wedge]

you can't beat em easily and still have fun

[hybrid flare]

You can

[rich cobalt]

Also when it come to radiant he is an average tier

[hybrid flare]

I had fun in my no-hit

[silk monolith]

easiest way to beat lost lace js tool storm with architect

[potent vessel]

🤔

what kind of logic is this

[graceful oyster]

Team Cherry please release Sea of Sorrow in September

[trim wedge]

easiest way to beat insert boss in general

[silk monolith]

july trust

[potent vessel]

team cherry dont listen to this guy, release it on the exact date that i want it to be released

[opaque sigil]

tool spam on ll kinda sucks because if you run out of shards it's really annoying to get more but if you bring enough down it should work

[silk monolith]

ar ethey actually gonna do it on the 1 year anniversary?

[terse lance]

karmelita and the skarrs are racist

[silk monolith]

how lol

[terse lance]

mottled skars

[potent vessel]

nah dude the mottled skarrs are just branded criminals trust me

[trim wedge]

nah why would anyone spam tools on LL, learning the fight is so much more fun

[terse lance]

skarrs propaganda

[potent vessel]

people have different ideas of fun

[potent vessel]

no you're just falling for citadel propaganda

[silk monolith]

i js did it with every crest after i got the true ending best one is beast

[terse lance]

speedrun

[opaque sigil]

how dare you play the single player offline game in the wrong way

[terse lance]

sure sure

ur a skarr agent

ik it

[potent vessel]

genuinely the stance some people take 😭 🙏

[toxic vigil]

beast crest is just not that good as some people asy

[potent vessel]

citadel pawn

[trim wedge]

elden ring fans explaining why their fav boss is the best (mfs two shot em with colossal hammer)

[opaque sigil]

shit was cooked the second ss became a """hard""" game

[rich cobalt]

Will SK have an sequel as well,maybe in the far future?

[potent vessel]

why do you care how other people play a single player game 💔

if they find it fun they find it fun

[potent vessel]

sethsong

[trim wedge]

not caring, but you can't two shot something and say "best boss ever" gng

[odd hull]

TC don't want to do sequels iirc.

[potent vessel]

horrible name for people with lisps im just realising

[silk monolith]

no team cherry said they dont wanna die or sum idk i forgot

[potent vessel]

they can and they do

[hybrid flare]

He's got a point though, bosses are fun when you learn em

[meager jolt]

Maybe...TC wants to move onto other games, tho, but they are not against more HK

[torn abyss]

you can crest:wanderer Blue: druids eyes, multibinder, long claw Yellow:anything with the dice and the wall climb thingy red:anything Enjoy your cheese to any boss while still having fun, I beat pantheon of phrloom like this!

[potent vessel]

new franchise drops in 15 years

[trim wedge]

someone I know thinks elden ring final boss is the best boss in gaming, should I "respect" his opinion now

[potent vessel]

i havent played elden ring yet so idk

[high sparrow]

Guys what if tc makes dark soul 4👀?

[trim wedge]

(he never bothered with the moveset, just spammed mimic)

[silk monolith]

best boss in gaming is big boss

[high sparrow]

As the new series

[potent vessel]

why are you pressed that he played the game the way he wanted to play

[silk monolith]

what if they make 3d games now thats a good question

[potent vessel]

ts genuinely frying me

[torn abyss]

🐜

[high sparrow]

I feel like they can

[trim wedge]

how many times do I say that Idc abt how they play, I care about the "best boss" statement

[high sparrow]

Damm now that i think about it imagine silksong but in 3D

[hybrid flare]

The best final boss in gaming is very obviously orphan it's not rlly a debate

[high sparrow]

Ooooooo

[silk monolith]

you ever see those "mario if ubisoft made it" videos?

[high sparrow]

Yeah?

[opaque sigil]

discord user discovers the concept of subjective enjoyment

[torn abyss]

path of pain wasnt even that hard just 10000000000 deaths, thats all

[silk monolith]

those are funny

[potent vessel]

maybe because he found watching his mimic killing that specific boss the most enjoyable

[trim wedge]

that sounds like something.....

[terse lance]

"karmelita is one of the best bosses" i said before being taken to the mental asylum for 1000 attempts at karmelita ( i lowk suck)

[potent vessel]

idk dude some people have weird ideas of fun

[silk monolith]

once you understand its a dance you beat her first try

[torn abyss]

use my build

[potent vessel]

just gotta live and let live

[trim wedge]

karmelita is great but not a top 3 boss in skong let alone best

[potent vessel]

unless they doing some weird shit

[hybrid flare]

Ye but bosses do have some objectivity to them

[potent vessel]

karmelita no1 boss 🗣️ 🔥

[terse lance]

what build?

[silk monolith]

yeah karmelita is top 3

[hybrid flare]

Nope she IS the best boss

[drifting badger]

I really liked karm

[terse lance]

y'all i need help

like some genuinely help

[golden crater]

jesus christ what the hell is happening

[silk monolith]

arguably best boss ost

[torn abyss]

crest:wanderer Blue: druids eyes, multibinder, long claw Yellow:anything with the dice and the wall climb thingy red:anything Enjoy your cheese to any boss while still having fun, I beat pantheon of phrloom like this!

[drifting badger]

I liked Lost Lace, the telefragging people complained about wasn’t really an issue for me since it didn’t happen to me that much

[golden crater]

i thought i was in #hk-general for a second there

[icy crow]

@exotic cedar I found a Nymph yesterday but she despawned 💔

[terse lance]

i don't have the upgraded version

[silk monolith]

ascendants grip? no belt?

[terse lance]

btw silk speed anklets has crazy combat use

it allows me to evade attk and get distance so gud

[silk monolith]

what you need ascendant grip for this aint platforming

[toxic vigil]

my favorite boss is 1st sinner

[silk monolith]

peak boss fr

[toxic vigil]

placebo ofc

[terse lance]

it's actually gud for combat if u use it for getting distance

[icy crow]

She only really gets to telefrag you if you sprint around

[terse lance]

i don't got upgraded version

[silk monolith]

great boss terrible reward is 1st sinner

[heady iron]

first sinner is like a dance

[toxic vigil]

my 2nd fav is lace 2

[terse lance]

every boss is a dance if u lowk at it close enough

[silk monolith]

naur

[terse lance]

.

[terse lance]

you are not silksong enough

[still osprey]

every time someone says an hk or ss boss is like a dance I shoot someone in the head

[silk monolith]

no no edit it back

[leaden delta]

this feels like a sprintmaster defense again

[silk monolith]

can you shoot me

[graceful oyster]

Sol and vin is like a dance

[terse lance]

i find crazy combat use for it

@torn abyss

aw he's offline

[silk monolith]

nah you right i used anklets in combat my first save

[leaden delta]

sprintmaster is worthless thoughhhhhhh

[silk monolith]

sprintmaster dude thats my go to in hk

sprintmaster i hardly know her

[slender juniper]

[silk monolith]

hk after playing skong feels way too slow so sprintmaster and dashmaster are huge w

[toxic vigil]

sprintmaster atleast you can say it does somenthing

[terse lance]

ik

[leaden delta]

anklets is kinda bad in ss imo bc of the fact that it only activates a moment after you start running, and in a lot of cases I don’t find myself sprinting nonstop for enough time for its effect to be noteworthy

[toxic vigil]

asc grip does NOTHING

[terse lance]

.

[silk monolith]

you can dash down with dashmaster

[toxic vigil]

anklets are useless in combat
its just for convieniency

[meager jolt]

Witerally tho

[terse lance]

there not

if u use them for distance their great

[icy crow]

Oh great we got charms and tools comparison in this channel now

[meager jolt]

Nyleth

[toxic vigil]

NOTHING

[silk monolith]

im crine dude 2 wrong uses of their theyre there

[terse lance]

i find great use for them in fast paced boss fights like karmelita and shakra

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-wait-gif-16738817422562026279

[leaden delta]

I don’t think no anklets are useless I just don’t think they impact a player after they get really comfortable with the combat and hornet’s movement

[meager jolt]

Surface climb

[terse lance]

u can immediately get distance for a heal

[leaden delta]

to the point where you probably aren’t sprinting for a long enough time for it to matter (because again the effect only kicks in after a moment)

[terse lance]

or overall dodging

[silk monolith]

even that i didnt get the idea to use ass grip

[terse lance]

it's bout the combat use

[icy crow]

Dodging Karmelita is literally 99.9% just pogo-ing her

[terse lance]

not overall use

[leaden delta]

Well yes. that’s what I mean

[terse lance]

i said fast paced boss fights

[toxic vigil]

thats platforming
and honestly its barely anything

[leaden delta]

where sprinting is usually enough regardless

[silk monolith]

beast crest is the best for karmelita

[leaden delta]

granted I think it does have some use for heals specifically

[vale whale]

me doing fourteen laps during a bossfight:

[leaden delta]

but I think it also wouldn’t be as useful as it otherwise could be because hornet’s heal is already stupidly good

[terse lance]

lol

[leaden delta]

granted anklets is at least a yellow tool so it’s not taking up ur space like sprintmaster does

[silk monolith]

theres better yellow tools like brooch

[vale whale]

https://youtu.be/PBK9MM0yUhg?si=beY8j4Qi6HwIOToM

[leaden delta]

so it’s not like actively bad

fuck sprintmaster

[terse lance]

alr picture this,karmelita is about to right on top of u.You have no silk for a spell and are low hp BUT u have enough silk for a heal and maybe a thread more,SO u sprint to the other side

[vale whale]

mfs will look you straight in the profile picture and tell you beast is better than john facetank for karmelita

[toxic vigil]

who is john facetank if not beast

[silk monolith]

beast is better than john facetank

[vale whale]

wanderer

[meager jolt]

Isn't Ascendant's Grip for platforming?

[toxic vigil]

gih gud

[toxic vigil]

people were talking about it in combat

[meager jolt]

Totally, and damage too (unless Beast Crest or Tool spam)

[leaden delta]

I have sprinted to the other side and healed using my broken blue tool that makes healing free

but yes

It would be helpful there slightly

[silk monolith]

oh no broken blue tool? dude you should get it repaired

[leaden delta]

so correction to my statement. I just don’t think it helps offensively

[meager jolt]

Oh that's my b

[leaden delta]

for the record btw beast I think is the more considered facetank charm

[toxic vigil]

skill issue

[vale whale]

literally intentional btw

[leaden delta]

it’s stupid good at facetanking

[vale whale]

i beat her this way it's THE most efficient one

[icy crow]

Team Cherry should fix Wanderer's hitbox and make it shorter than Hunter's

[meager jolt]

Peak

[vale whale]

you use druids eyes injector and whatever tf you want and just punch her

[odd hull]

Team Cherry should delete Wanderer from the game

[whole moon]

I don't have images damn

[meager jolt]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

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[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/dustin-stranger-things-fighting-beat-up-dustin-henderson-gif-14622355042775063019

[silk monolith]

corny ahh

[dreamy locust]

I've died to steel soul over 50 times atp I think I'm going insane

[whole moon]

🤓

[silk monolith]

you can do it i believe in you

[meager jolt]

50!?

[whole moon]

I died at 4 times in silksong you can do it

[vale whale]

WHO uses this emoji in 2026

[dreamy locust]

and the crazy thing is it's always a new way i die

[leaden delta]

I would be fiiiiine with this but I think I’d be better with making wanderer’s range the same as base hunter, and then increasing the base hunter range by a tiny bit

[silk monolith]

i die a lot too its fine

[meager jolt]

Well, that's not shocking, you learn from your mistakes

[exotic cedar]

Rip :(

[vale whale]

I am Pissman -bbno$

[toxic vigil]

honestly give hunter more range
why does it have the least

[icy crow]

Wouldn't that virtually be the same change?

[leaden delta]

yea

[terse lance]

wander crest goooo brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[silk monolith]

rick ross is stone man

[icy crow]

I'll just go exploring again

[leaden delta]

noooot exactly. It keeps about the same feeling on wanderer

[severe steeple]

it has the least if the only way you play the game is standing and attacking grounded enemies on the ground

[silk monolith]

it dont even feel like it got the least range

[toxic vigil]

???

[silk monolith]

idk how they managed to do that

[toxic vigil]

its still got the least

[leaden delta]

while making hunter feel better

[severe steeple]

which does not matter in reality

[leaden delta]

Bc I think wanderer having less range than hunter does rn would make it feel a little stupid imo

[high sparrow]

Bro what did he do to get jumped like that💔?

[silk monolith]

hunter would be perfect if yall didnt spoil the party by telling me it has the least range

[terse lance]

together, we are truly wander crest

[leaden delta]

I think it’s actually fine in range tbh, cuz ur sacrificing width

[hybrid flare]

ass game

[terse lance]

"im gonna main wander crest" i say as the sk players drag me into the slab

[leaden delta]

and width is important in upslashes

[high sparrow]

Well wicth has better range than hunter

[terse lance]

reaper and shaman

[meager jolt]

Isn't Wanderer most popular?

[silk monolith]

fuck sk players all my homies hate sk players

[high sparrow]

And shaman too

[silk monolith]

yeah i know

[terse lance]

WANDERER DO BRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[icy crow]

Wanderer is genericslop

[severe steeple]

unless youre standing still next to the enemy width does matter. It makes it easier to hit sideways when jumping or falling

[leaden delta]

that’s also true

Fuck wrong reply

[meager jolt]

Wow, SK players change their minds real quick (few months ago it was considered the best and the default)

[leaden delta]

This is also true

[high sparrow]

Hell even the architect crest has better range than hunter

[leaden delta]

upslashing next to the guy in fact I think useful

[icy crow]

How many times have Wanderer been called generic lol

[silk monolith]

lowk fandom ruins games

[leaden delta]

I looooove free sbody

[high sparrow]

So basicly you have better crestes that outshines the hunter crest

[icy crow]

It's literally the same moveset in the first game, except you can deal critical hits if your silk bar is full

[silk monolith]

hunter still better than all of them

[strange knot]

I mean there are some good fandoms

[meager jolt]

Yes, which is what I complained about and got burned for

[leaden delta]

ok btw fuck crits it’s such a lame mechanic

[strange knot]

Also not tru

[meager jolt]

2% chance

[sharp slate]

depends on the situation

[strange knot]

Yeah

[meager jolt]

2.2% with dice

[leaden delta]

I would make wanderer gimmick be it has tk properties

[icy crow]

Yeah lol, plenty of obssessed people with it

[high sparrow]

This would implie the existences of a bad fandom

[silk monolith]

any situation hunter

[leaden delta]

Yes! it’s still a lame mechanic and a lame gimmick

[whole ice]

just finished the ||true ending|| .. why is this game so peak...

[toxic vigil]

they should just make it so wanderer gains like 10% dmg instead of the crits

[sharp slate]

imo hitless is more consistent with wanderer than hunter, though both can be used

[strange knot]

Not even about %s, mechanic as a whole just sucks

[icy crow]

Given you can keep your focus bar up, it is pretty good

[toxic vigil]

depends on boss honestly

[silk monolith]

yeah obviously

[meager jolt]

Fr

[silk monolith]

hunter is perfect for hitless its made for hitless

[sharp slate]

defintely agree

[stable mica]

doesnt hunter performs better

[leaden delta]

like I think u can do stuff here I’ve talked abt it before

[toxic vigil]

wanderer has technically more dps because hunter focus is addative

[whole ice]

I'm ngl people i just triple crit ||lost lace|| in a row and i never felt so much satisfaction in my life

[toxic vigil]

( IF YOU USE FLINTSLATE )

[stable mica]

i mean hunter abilty is literally hitless

[icy crow]

Who's gonna use Flintslate gang

[whole ice]

me ✌️

[meager jolt]

I like Flintslate :(

[toxic vigil]

[severe steeple]

crits should be something thats not tied to rng. Say they rework silkspear to add a crit hitbox at the very end tip of the attack which deals more damage but is obviously harder to hit

[sharp slate]

pogo can lead to putting you in bad situations if you miss, and no one plays perfect especially if they are doing many bosses in a row, wanderer pogo allows you to recover with drifers or double jump for example

[terse lance]

how do u crit with wanderer

[sharp slate]

thats my reasoning for it

[strange knot]

Flintslate is good buh

[whole ice]

flintslate best tool btw

[silk monolith]

hunter is the best crest cause i like it

[sharp slate]

There is nuance in crest talk its not just x crest is best

[icy crow]

Don't get me wrong, I did use Flintslate and I can agree it's good but there's a point where it becomes not pivotal anymore

[meager jolt]

2% random chance

[terse lance]

.

[whole ice]

i like shaman but the only thing i have against it is how LATE you unlock it..

[silk monolith]

i hear you its very valid but i like hunter more

[strange knot]

If you have 9 silk

[meager jolt]

2.2% with dice

[sharp slate]

yea but that doesnt make it the best, i like wanderer the most but i wouldnt call it best crest

[whole ice]

the best crest is the one you enjoy the most

[leaden delta]

make nart dash slash, let hornet hurt guys when parrying, give hornet turnaround cancels again

[silk monolith]

ng+ would solve that (we would beat everything in less than 1 hour if theres an ng+)

[toxic vigil]

like example for seth i would like hunter more, but wanderer can be better for like karmelita

[leaden delta]

stuff like that

[meager jolt]

OOF

[silk monolith]

yes it does make it the best cause its my favourite

[leaden delta]

I’d be ok with this

[toxic vigil]

4.4% dps increase if you have 9 silk ( basically always in no hits atleast for me )

[leaden delta]

I don’t think I’d want that drastic of a dmg increase with hitting the tip tho. more like 2x

[icy crow]

You reminded me that the charge attack of Wanderer is just Hornet trying to commit murder with 100 stabs

[sharp slate]

in all honestly at high skill hitless the differences between hunter and wanderer dont matter imo

[strange knot]

2x would be too much imo, hitting with the tip isn’t hard at all

[sharp slate]

though this is the only catagory i can really talk about

[vale whale]

poisoned me and ran for it

[severe steeple]

yeah not high its just something for skill expression

[leaden delta]

Id imagine the hitbox would be way smaller tho

[sharp slate]

hunter obviously has speedrun tech and will always be used for that

[leaden delta]

yea

[toxic vigil]

i like both hitless and modded bosses

[sharp slate]

besides when they slot shaman in at the end for 100%

[odd hull]

NG+ would go crazy

[desert harness]

do yall remember wheres the flea david?

[strange knot]

And in hundo they use everything except Hunter

[silk monolith]

you can literally skip everything

[icy crow]

They should let Hornet combo enemies with triple slashes like how Zero does in Mega Man X4

[strange knot]

They use Hunter only in like first 1:30

[toxic vigil]

the 3 crests i used for no hit in the patheon of pharloom were hunter, wanderer and shaman

[sharp slate]

i need to watch a full run tbh, i didnt know that

i thought speed tech from hunter would be worth keeping it

[silk monolith]

yeah i didnt know that either

[odd hull]

That would be a different game

[desert harness]

do yall remember ?

[icy crow]

Would be funny as hell though

[strange knot]

Yeah hundo gets wanderer and than plays entire game with it until act 3, when you use shaman and architect. Hunter isn’t optimal since you can’t use lockets on it

[icy crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225875769268371618/1458996532421591244/attachment.gif

[strange knot]

And pogo dashes are useless since you have anklets

Are there any other speedrunning techs with hunter lwk

[sharp slate]

interesting didnt think of the slyphsong perspective

[strange knot]

Yeah you also get evo really late

U get it when you get sylphsong

So Hunter just ends up having really bad dps for runs

[icy crow]

Not quite

[sharp slate]

i need to watch some te/100% runs im curious about it even though id never run it myself

[odd hull]

[icy crow]

Wouldn't it?

[strange knot]

Is it early act 3 or late act 3

I forgor

[odd hull]

I don't think so

[strange knot]

Te runs with hunter tho

[icy crow]

What would it be?

[sharp slate]

that makes sense, not worth going out of the way for crests

[icy crow]

About early to middle act three

Act three has only like, two Memory Lockets so

[odd hull]

Weird ig

[icy crow]

How would it be weird? It'd just be Hornet applying additive damage with triple slashes or circling slashes mid-air

🤔

[plucky stag]

i made some more progress in mio tonight by the way; i spent most of the last 4 hours in the game in (true ending spoilers) ||the crucible||

[icy crow]

I have yet to start MIO

[plucky stag]

||being a celeste veteran helped me out so much||

[icy crow]

But I'm starting to doubt my PC can handle it

[plucky stag]

funny story about that; i actually thought the slow framerate was the game's stylistic choice for the first 2 hours

then i realized my settings were just up too high

[toxic vigil]

they do get the evo

[icy crow]

Damn

I'm playing Indivisible these days and there's some parts which just get FPS cuts despite the low graphic settings

Got a good feeling my graphics board need to go for a change

[opaque sigil]

yeah that can be a little brutal, very satisfying to figure out though at least for me

[sharp slate]

i assume when they go down for snare setter

[plucky stag]

i ended up wasting an hour and a half because ||i didn't think to put on gratitude until about 2 hours in||

if i had done that from the start i would have finished about an hour and a half faster

[odd hull]

That would play and feel different from HK's formula. I don't like that

[sharp slate]

tbh routing of speedruns is more interesing to me then actual executing it tbh

[icy crow]

I mean for sure, but it's up to preference

You can also do massive combos with red tools so it's like, not different at all

[opaque sigil]

oof

well a lot of that isn't really lost progress at least, half the challenge there is figuring stuff out not just executing it

[sharp slate]

tbh playing triple slash games vs single slash, i prefer single slash atm

[odd hull]

I disagree totally

[plucky stag]

exactly

but still, that's a lot of time i ended up wasting because i didn't put two and two together

maybe at best i lost only an hour from that mistake

[odd hull]

I don't care much if it's triple or single slash game. But if it's a franchise, don't change that

[plucky stag]

but no use crying over spilled milk

[icy crow]

If only I could see Hornet doing circling slashes mid-air and hitting Groal five times per attack... one can dream

[vague bone]

meow

my fault

[vague bone]

marchonn

what do u rate silksong outta 10

[icy crow]

8/10

[vague bone]

oooo

nice

i just got it a couple days ago

[odd hull]

Just so you know, spoilers are allowed in this chat

[vague bone]

[odd hull]

Yeah

[vague bone]

its cool

[sharp slate]

hornet is void

[vague bone]

hk has a story right..?

[paper skiff]

i need help right fucking now

help me

[plucky stag]

funnily enough that "theory" was put to rest with silksong

[vague bone]

cuz i lowkey just be playing it without understanding

[odd hull]

It has lore

[plucky stag]

if hornet were void, why does she need a flower to dive beneath it

[vague bone]

do yall consider silksong to be better than hk?

[versed pollen]

Probably because she's a chud

[sharp slate]

i got hit by double moss mother due to me saying that karma

[plucky stag]

they're equally as good as each other

[odd hull]

Yeah. But I don't like HK much

[vague bone]

oo ok

[plucky stag]

basically i'm like a dad who genuinely loves his two children equally for their unique values

[sharp slate]

i like silksong more mechanically, hk for replayability especially overworld

[vague bone]

thats a good example lol

[sharp slate]

got hit to zango too im resetting my hitless :/

[odd hull]

lmao

Good luck next time

[graceful oyster]

Hornet is void

[sharp slate]

i feel like after 1 hit tilt comes in

[plucky stag]

"i love my son because he's built like a tank, and i love my daughter just as much because she's agile and quick on her toes"

[queen acorn]

zote is a discarded vessel

[graceful oyster]

Zote is a greyroot symbiote

[sharp slate]

what type of tank are we talking about a sherman or a panzer

[plucky stag]

hk and silksong are both legendary for their own unique qualities

[dusk quail]

elderbug is the true Hollow Knight which is why he is sad bc PK didnt choose him

[sharp slate]

shoulda chose zote, perfect empty vessel nothing going on up there

[queen acorn]

EXACTLY what king in yellow was thinking

[high sparrow]

But zote has a will and a mind

[dusk quail]

liar

[high sparrow]

It wouldnt work..instead we should use kratt as the vessel

[vague bone]

yuh

[dreamy locust]

Team Cherry will expand on this in Zote Boat, trust

[vague bone]

muh

[dusk quail]

Kratt is the immovable object and zote is the unstoppable force

put em together

[graceful oyster]

I hate green people

[queen acorn]

by extension you hate bilewater ANOTHER bilewater downscale

[high sparrow]

What if they..kiss?😳

[queen acorn]

day 12 of daily palestag hate also