sk-discussion

[swift burrow]

wanderers + multibind + druids eyes + injector band + magnetite dice kinda makes everything easy

[odd hull]

What you're using

[swift burrow]

I was struggling with karmelita but one attempt with this and it was easy

[orchid spruce]

if you love bossfights, i have just the game for you

[trim wedge]

uhhh

[odd hull]

I wonder which

[swift burrow]

whar

[trim wedge]

I think on average Silksong has better bosses than Nine sols, Nine sols just has ||Eigong|| who's miles better than any skong boss

[north ore]

finally made it to act 2 on steel soul

[orchid spruce]

You just forget the bad Silksong bosses because they're bad and forgettable

[light swan]

guys i have an idea

im gonna make my modded second sentinel

[eager elm]

alright dont do anything dumb

the game only gets worse

from personal experience sadly

[north ore]

no shit thats how progression works

[light swan]

summon bell throwers & claw maidens & choristers

[trim wedge]

it still has a consistent quality considering it has 40+ bosses

[orchid spruce]

S tier boss material there

[eager elm]

i mean worse for your sanity

[light swan]

also ill make their attacks all throw out the spikes rfom the sinners road/greymoor guy

[north ore]

no shit thats how the hk franchise works

[eager elm]

i like it

[light swan]

and ill make them black and ill make the background black

[eager elm]

Timothy?
that sinners road guy?

[north ore]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-25277476

[light swan]

yes

summoons bell throwers, claw maidens, choristers, every attack spawns a chalamet spike, ill make both them and the background black and uhh

give them void attacks

and then ill take the floor away

[eager elm]

im no modder but make sure the claw-maiden-removing code doesn't mess with anything

[trim wedge]

Lost Sentinel

[atomic sparrow]

w ||eigong|| w nine sols w ending song

[eager elm]

what's eigong

[light swan]

a spoiler

[trim wedge]

an egg

[light swan]

a nog

[trim wedge]

a furry

[tight viper]

A gong is an instrument you hit with a hammer or mallet or something

[light swan]

me when i GENUINELYT CLICK ON SPOILERS

and then i repeat the SPOILERED message OUTSIDE OF SPOILERS

[tight viper]

And it goes GONG

[light swan]

anyway fr this time i think having some kind of separate attack amidst combos where second sentinel explodes this out real quickly could be nice

with a telegraph and all the basic bossfight nonsense

[atomic sparrow]

at least theres no rules against that else they would ban my ass!!!

[light swan]

respect and not being a dumbass shouldnt be a rule

it should be common sense

and basic etiquette and manners

[atomic sparrow]

well my ass is gonna get banned soon after

[eager elm]

<@&283547423706447872>

[real hearth]

wait can i do the honors

[eager elm]

WHAT

?????????

[real hearth]

son

[eager elm]

what ungodly being just typed on my keyboard

[vestal vault]

[crimson dust]

Seth is cooking me 💀 that mf got no openings

[light swan]

i recommend you try to attack during his attacks

[vivid belfry]

Seth doesn't just have openings, he has delver's drill openings

[odd hull]

You can do it. I believe in you

[light swan]

either in the telegraph, endlag, or the attack itself

[real hearth]

what about reaper crest opening

[eager elm]

i typed that because \ ignores syntax and i was making a joke that i was being annoying to this dude

[light swan]

for example you can pogo him during his slashes and dashes

you can attack him as hes falling down from his diagonal shield throw

[crimson dust]

Maybe that's all I needed to hear

[light swan]

or when hes recovering from his grounded horizontal shield throw, etc

just a bit of tips regarding his openings

i find that a lot of people try to only attack while the boss is idle and it doesnt work very well

especially because seth is a fast shielded boss

[crimson dust]

I get to hit him from behind after the shield throw

Besides that

[orchid spruce]

Nine Sols & Silksong all bosses spoilers

[eager elm]

for good reason unfortunately

[light swan]

khann in mid? :(

signis & gron in shit? :(

[crimson dust]

Build
Wanderer
Spool extender
Flea brew
Reserved bind
Dice
Weighed Belt

[light swan]

fucks in good? :(

[orchid spruce]

[eager elm]

Seth got cancer so he made you wish you had it too

[crimson dust]

Damn....

[orchid spruce]

evil

[atomic sparrow]

I mean I think the consensus is that he could've been better in terms of being more difficult/complicated given his position in the game
there is an argument that he should be easier due to to being at the end of the gauntlet tho theres also the shortcut

[real hearth]

send me this template rq

[light swan]

i think he can be fun despite being easy

[real hearth]

the silksong one not ninesols

[light swan]

hes thrilling, exciting, top 1 boss theme

[trim wedge]

khann, tormented trobbio and crawfather are great, signis and gron are good asw

[eager elm]

seth?

[light swan]

hes such a bop, hes intense despite being easy

[eager elm]

or khann

[light swan]

khann

[orchid spruce]

i simply disagree

[light swan]

we are simple people

[orchid spruce]

khann, tormented, craw is epitome of unmemorable mid

tormented is visual clutter final boss

[trim wedge]

that's just wrong

[crimson dust]

@light swan want to see an attempt

[light swan]

sure

[light swan]

you cant say "thats just wrong" to someones opinion

[orchid spruce]

i played silksong 4 times and yawned at those bosses

[odd hull]

[ornate perch]

Shakra in shit 💔 😭

[real hearth]

nvm i found teh demplate

[odd hull]

She is.

[orchid spruce]

silksong has good bosses, but like consistent is the wrong word

[vivid belfry]

I've had my beef with Tormentio but he rules when he cooperates with you

[atomic sparrow]

yummy beef

[trim wedge]

nine sols major spoilers

[orchid spruce]

lmao

[eager elm]

my thing phantom should be S and i will die on that hill

[atomic sparrow]

whole tier to seperate them 😭

[orchid spruce]

she has her own tier

[trim wedge]

phantom is a top 3 boss in silksong

[orchid spruce]

hell naw

[eager elm]

phantom is PEAK

[orchid spruce]

phantom is good but top 3 is certainly an acquired taste

[eager elm]

especially if you enter act 2 through it

[atomic sparrow]

cogwork dancers and last judge in s 🥹

[trim wedge]

phantom's presentation is top notch

[vivid belfry]

Phantom is in a Khann situation where everything about the fight works except the fact that it's way too easy, but I'm more forgiving of Khann for this because of the fact that he's the capper to a gauntlet instead of a dedicated boss fight

[trim wedge]

as is the fight itself

[trim wedge]

well if you fight phantom in act 1 she ain't too easy

[atomic sparrow]

we're gonna get two more dungeons in dlcs how we feeling
at least if tc's word is to be trusted

[eager elm]

Ok but putting phantom on the same level as ass jim and CRAWFATHER then that is vile

[orchid spruce]

silksong becoming a zeldalike?

[high sparrow]

White people be like: yeah i just throw my children to the void when im bored

[vivid belfry]

Ass Jim is amazing

[odd hull]

Isn't every metroidvania a bit zeldalike

[orchid spruce]

i mean, like dungeons and all that. ori 2 is like that from what i gather.

[vivid belfry]

like I always thought Lugoli was B tier at worst but they grow on me every time I replay the game

[eager elm]

yeah they're both video games

[vivid belfry]

and crawfather has always been A tier

[fiery burrow]

Lugoli is great

[orchid spruce]

this tier list is so pretty

[odd hull]

Sure

[high sparrow]

You mean soulslike?💔

[fiery burrow]

The weavers should be S tier ngl

[orchid spruce]

do you have the link

[eager elm]

Phantom is peak.

[odd hull]

No. What

[vivid belfry]

https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-silksong-all-bosses-16628425

[orchid gull]

fire tierlist

[fiery burrow]

HK was inspired by Zelda 2

[orchid spruce]

thanks

[vivid belfry]

everybody puts cogwork over clover

[high sparrow]

Dude most metrovanias are usually souls like not zeldalike

[odd hull]

Castlevania SOTN was inspired by Zelda design philosophy

[light swan]

i missed tierslop

[vivid belfry]

the fact that I put clover in A tier instead of C is what's breaking from the norm

[real hearth]

using your formatting(silksong)

i think youre a little harsh on some and not harsh enough on others

[light swan]

let me add to the slop

[woeful skiff]

HOLY SILKSONG REFERENCE

[atomic sparrow]

cogwork dancers ost 🥹

[real hearth]

not fully ranked between but generally

[odd hull]

What

How are they soulslike

[trim wedge]

I don't really have a separate skong tierlist

[fiery burrow]

Dark Souls and Silksong are literally the same game they're that similar

[real hearth]

pople call hk/sk soulsliks because they have checkpoints and bosses

[fiery burrow]

Well SS introduced blood vials/spirit emblems ig

[odd hull]

lmao

[high sparrow]

Cause they have hard bosses,checkpoints and everytime you die you have to find your item at the last place you were in

[umbral ether]

i think that doesn't really make it a souls like but ok

[odd hull]

Checkpoints??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[high sparrow]

Why are you being confused?

[high sparrow]

Why not?

[umbral ether]

benchs/bonfires/laterns/whatever seikro has/sites of grace

[trim wedge]

never heard of benches?

[high sparrow]

Wait what are we talking about exactly?

[umbral ether]

i count souls likes as 3d games with a focus on dodging/parrying

[odd hull]

It's a save room. That's not soulslike specific

[fiery burrow]

The benches and corpse run are similar to Fromslop games

[real hearth]

the actual gameplay/combat style of hk/sk are not at all indictaive of dark souls

[light swan]

yall are too mean to my goat second sentinel

[real hearth]

the same reaons i believe a game like sekiro is not a soulslike

[fiery burrow]

The fact that its not an RPG and doesn't really have any commitment to your attacks makes it hard to describe as a soulslike but it for sure is inspired by souls games

[umbral ether]

it is what dark souls 1 3 bloodborne elden ring all use as their most basic gameplay

[atomic sparrow]

I wish their arena wasn't so cramped
remember the 2019 trailer version? 😭 that would've been cinematic

[high sparrow]

Yeah i know but is like the vibe you know..they have the similaritys of a souls like game

[umbral ether]

i haven't played ds2 or seikro yet so im not listing them

[high sparrow]

For example

[real hearth]

i lve second sentinel

[high sparrow]

Mortal shell is a souls like game

[fiery burrow]

Corpseruns are a terrible mechanic why did they add those 😭

[light swan]

ts not cramped

[odd hull]

True

[orchid spruce]

second sentinel is like a boss that exists and doesn't annoy me

[atomic sparrow]

and this is not their normal arena??

[umbral ether]

what is mortal shell

[high sparrow]

This game

[fiery burrow]

God bless Prince of Persia The Lost Crown for not having currency loss upon death

[high sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-shell-game-dark-souls-new-2020-gif-16754671

[fiery burrow]

And Mio for having currency loss upon death but no corpseruns

[real hearth]

im noot super familiar with mortal shell

[orchid spruce]

so true

[umbral ether]

this is 3d not a sidescroller like silksong/hk

[light swan]

whos arena is it then?

[orchid spruce]

corpse run + currency loss is fucking stupid for mvs

you make it harder for yourself to balance currency for no good reason

[trim wedge]

phantom in top 3 is all I wanted to see

[high sparrow]

Yeah but i mean the mechanics are pretty similars to dark souls

[atomic sparrow]

those choir clappers ig

[odd hull]

True.

[high sparrow]

Or souls like,so being a zeldalike doesnt make sense

[umbral ether]

in what way is hk/silksong similar to dark souls

[real hearth]

i mean i think zeldalike is an equally stupid term

[umbral ether]

they are metroidvanias they already have a genre

[vivid belfry]

idk I think silksong's economy is pretty tight

[light swan]

second sentinel who happens to share the same arena as those choir clappersi n act 3

[orchid spruce]

[real hearth]

they are metroidvanias built upon the concept of the namesake metroid

[umbral ether]

also castlevania

[real hearth]

yeah

[trim wedge]

I tried to play blasphemous 2

[light swan]

metroidvania named oidva:

[vivid belfry]

in my first playthrough I didn't have to grind all that much despite dying constantly, and in repeat playthroughs I don't feel like I have infinite useless money because of the bellhart currency sinks

[trim wedge]

why does this game feel so clunky

[atomic sparrow]

they dont youre trying to gaslight me!!!!!!

[odd hull]

Long forgotten

[light swan]

check out this cool parry clip i got with second sentinel act 3 version

[umbral ether]

didn't a new one get annouced recently?

[light swan]

its a soulslike

[vivid belfry]

it's intentionally weighty and slow, though much less than the first game

[high sparrow]

Like high difficulty,interconnected worlds,checkpoints, exploring,leveling up and ect.

[umbral ether]

hollow knight and silksong doesn't have leveling up

[real hearth]

its ok for a metroidvania to be inspired by the souls games without being a soulslike

[odd hull]

Yep. They also had 2 animated series, collections, remasters.

[eager elm]

did you change anything besides arena yet

[orchid spruce]

it's pretty fluid

[eager elm]

or is the parrying mandatory

[high sparrow]

Well..you can upgrade your hp and your weapon

[light swan]

im completely done with all the combos

[light swan]

they have a new health value

[real hearth]

that aligns it more with a game like sekiro which isnt really a souls game

[umbral ether]

that is different imo

[light swan]

everything in bullet points is a possible branch out of the attack its under

[umbral ether]

also the other things listed are just things in metroidvanias

[high sparrow]

How so?

[real hearth]

hk/sk have way more similarities with Sekiro than with the Souls games

[fiery burrow]

RPG mechanics vs... just progression

[odd hull]

I agreed! Sadly it looks very different from other castlevania games. Konami likes to change things from time to time ig

[umbral ether]

you can't grind to get stat upgrades via leveling up stats in hk/ss unlike in ds/er/bb where you can

[high sparrow]

True

[light swan]

so for example a combo could be dashstab > horizontal windblade > dashstab > slash > backstep > slash > rising slash > diagonal windblade > dive > dashstab > rising slash > cross slash @eager elm

[umbral ether]

the exception from what ive seen is seikro but that is one of the form software's games i haven't played yet

[odd hull]

Having RPG elements would actually make a metroidvania more "vania" and not soulslike, no?

[light swan]

second sentinel regularly kinda has segmented attacks, not really combos with flow like this

[atomic sparrow]

cant you warp around bonfires in er?

[high sparrow]

But honestly i think whats makes it a soulslike is just the atmosphere

[real hearth]

sekiro has hp/damage upgrades similar to SK's

[high sparrow]

In general

[odd hull]

You can

[atomic sparrow]

I see

[umbral ether]

yeah

[real hearth]

i actually disagree with this point

[high sparrow]

What?...how?

[umbral ether]

i disagree i more count how the game plays in what makes a soulslike

[odd hull]

This

[high sparrow]

Well what do you think is a soulslike?

A good example is lies of p

[vivid belfry]

Another Crab's Treasure is a soulslike and it has the atmosphere of Spongebob Battle For Bikini Bottom

[odd hull]

lmao true

[vivid belfry]

by the way, play Another Crab's Treasure it's fucking peam

[real hearth]

hk/sk do a much better job at immersing you with the world map due to true ambience whereas the souls games generally have a very quiet ambience or none at all which more immerses you with the player character themselves

[trim wedge]

darn good game

[umbral ether]

games based on the gameplay of dark souls for example a focus on dodging and parrying and difficult bosses

[odd hull]

If only my wishlist wasn't so long

[real hearth]

most areas in hk/sk have unique themes that make them feel special and tie in their themes whereas souls games generally dont have ambient tracks

and when they do they are muted and negligible

[high sparrow]

Honestly yeah thats kinda what i liked about it

[high sparrow]

Isnt that what i said tho?

[umbral ether]

isn't it also about pollution

[real hearth]

i like it too, dont get me wrong but it is a fundamental difference in intention there

[orchid spruce]

preferences. some people prefer how grim the environment is in those souls games, i think

[vivid belfry]

yes

[dawn needle]

I only now noticed that in the Cogwork Dancers song
There's the faint sound of cogs turning

[real hearth]

i love the soulsgame ambience but it takes a completely different direction compared to a game like silksong

[light swan]

thats wha happens when yorue in the core of the cogwork

[atomic sparrow]

could it be that those dancers are cogwork? 🤔

[inland mulch]

Both silksong and souls games punish you for dying, and have difficult bosses that push you to get better. Not very forgiving if you aren't skilled

[dawn needle]

Just like cogwork

lol

[real hearth]

thats about where the similarities end

[inland mulch]

Just about yeah

[real hearth]

like i definitely agree those are qualities shared between the games

but a LOT of games share those qualities in a billion diffrent genres

[high sparrow]

Like celeste?

[real hearth]

terraria has that

and terraria is not a soulslike

[high sparrow]

Well idk i never played celeste so

[odd hull]

what

[real hearth]

celeste i dont really think has bosses

[eager elm]

play oit

[real hearth]

if it does ive never seen anyonetalk about htem

[eager elm]

mental bosses both canonically and irl

[umbral ether]

that also describes most rogue lites

[eager elm]

celeste is a true platformer; no ingame boss fights

[high sparrow]

Well does celeste count as a soulslike?

[odd hull]

(It has)

[eager elm]

no i wouldn't say so

[real hearth]

does it actually?

i havent played very much but literally nobody talks about the bosses if they exist

[odd hull]

Yep. But are more like, platforming challanges than Knight-in-Armor in a single room

[real hearth]

gotcha

[high sparrow]

I think her bosses are just her accepting shes like trans

[real hearth]

quite the challenging one

[odd hull]

No.

[crimson dust]

Well Seth is down

[odd hull]

I knew it

[light swan]

ggs !!

[crimson dust]

Rest well Seth u made a cool character (but not a fun fight)

[odd hull]

That's true

[crimson dust]

Thanks

[real hearth]

seth's character made me cry ngl

[crimson dust]

Thx u

[real hearth]

idk if anyone else shares that experience

[high sparrow]

Yall should play control if yall like hollow knigth

Is a pretty fun game

[eager elm]

Seth makes you want to go with em'

[scarlet karma]

nope it’s solely a platformer

[crimson dust]

Well I do know the story behind his creator that's pretty and why he's named after him in the game

[umbral ether]

gl on the minigames

[high sparrow]

Who the hell dislike my comment?

[real hearth]

theres more to it that you may or may not find

[eager elm]

minigames weren't even that bad?

[real hearth]

and THAT is what did it for me

[crimson dust]

Not doing that shit again 💀

Unless

[odd hull]

alr steam

[crimson dust]

The reward is mega worth it

[real hearth]

😭

[light swan]

seth my beloved

[pallid plinth]

shit sold out in 1 second

[eager elm]

you get arbitrary collectible!

[real hearth]

it kinda is

[pallid plinth]

im bombing everyone scalping the controller on ebay

in game

[umbral ether]

i disagree heavily

[real hearth]

collectibles are so op

[high sparrow]

Did you found it?

[crimson dust]

What does it do...

[umbral ether]

you mean the mementos that don't give any percent?

[gusty urchin]

i have barely interacted with the community after i beat sk in like fall of 2026
so like
am i the only person who never used tools because i hated the idea of tools costing shell shards to make
that is like the sole reason i used shaman's crest 😭
please tell me i am not the only one

[eager elm]

absolutely nothing

[eager elm]

i didn't use em eithe

[odd hull]

Btw sorry. I think I sounded mean on my messages.

[eager elm]

except in the Hearts fights where shell shards are useless

[atomic sparrow]

I didn't use them much in my first playthrough

[umbral ether]

shell shards are very easy to farm if you have a good rosary farm

[eager elm]

they don't cost any

[eager elm]

who wants to farm on their first playthrough

[real hearth]

yes

[light swan]

red tools? or all tools

[gusty urchin]

ok so im not the only one thank you lol

[gusty urchin]

all tools

[light swan]

uh

[eager elm]

ALL?

[gusty urchin]

no

[eager elm]

not just red?

[umbral ether]

me i did that

[gusty urchin]

wait mb red tools LOL

[light swan]

red tools are the only ones that use shards

[odd hull]

This one?

[high sparrow]

Oh no problem man is fine

[light swan]

genuine heart attack

[gusty urchin]

sorry i am not used to the names that silksong uses

[knotty vapor]

I think fleas are bunnies

[real hearth]

you get a boy scout badge you can display in your house

[umbral ether]

nothing

[eager elm]

you're not gonna believe this......

[real hearth]

it does nothing on its own but teh intention behind it is so important

[high sparrow]

Yeah that one,is a pretty good game and it has exploration and side quest

[gusty urchin]

hollow knight brainrot has gotten to me
i call blue tools and yellow tools charms 😭

[umbral ether]

doesn't even give a percent

[high sparrow]

And a good story

[light swan]

blue charms

[real hearth]

son

[umbral ether]

you can get the 100 percent completion without it

[eager elm]

cyan trinkets screw yall

[odd hull]

Alr I'll take a look later

[real hearth]

U DONT GIVE A PERCENT

[knotty vapor]

all the characteristics fit, just that they can fly

[atomic sparrow]

blue doodads and thingamabobs

[odd hull]

owntt

[umbral ether]

IM NOT FUCKING DOING MORE MINIGAMES

[real hearth]

it is 100% worth it to get the thing we're speaking about power do not listen to mo

[umbral ether]

FUCK THE FLEA MINIGAMES

[real hearth]

THE MINIGAMES ARE FUN

[eager elm]

FUN

[knotty vapor]

there are upgrades lol

[crimson dust]

I barely passed 30 juggle in the mini games and you want me to exceed it? Nah you can keep that badge lol

[eager elm]

THEY ARE FUN

[knotty vapor]

Flea Minigames an optional bossfight due to Flea Juggle

[real hearth]

IF (spoiler) ||SETH CAN DO IT|| SO CAN YOU

[crimson dust]

Hell nah fuck that

[real hearth]

THE MINIGAMES ARE SO FUN U ARE A HATER

[crimson dust]

He can have the high score

I ain't going back

[real hearth]

😭

[umbral ether]

I KEPT FAILING BY 1

[dusk quail]

genuinely just think of it like fighting a boss cuz thats exactly what it is

[real hearth]

THAT MEANS UR A BUM

[gusty urchin]

i mean most people dont use spells much at all in their first hk playthroughs, but spells are so insanely busted that it feels like cheating, which is why i wanna know if tools are busted too and im missing out

[crimson dust]

ALRIGHT YEAH IG I'M A HATER

[eager elm]

depends on how you use em

[umbral ether]

go swim in bilewater

[real hearth]

WTF DNT HATE THE FLEA MINIGAMES

[odd hull]

They are if you spam.

[real hearth]

id rather swim in bilewater than be thse fat guys that go blueeergh

[odd hull]

They're still useful, otherwise.

[atomic sparrow]

oh yeah they can definitely be busted

[crimson dust]

I do like the other two BUT FUCK JUGGLE IT'S CANCER

[umbral ether]

fuck all of them they are all rng

[real hearth]

JUGGLE IS NOT THAT BAD

JUGGLE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN BOUNCE

[umbral ether]

now we are just lying

[real hearth]

I LOVE JUGGLE

[crimson dust]

IT IS

[dusk quail]

BOUNCE IS THE BEST WHY ARE WE LYING

[real hearth]

BOUNCE IS TEH WORST BUT ITS STILL GOOD

[umbral ether]

BOUNCE IS EASY AS SHIT

JUST USE REAPER

[real hearth]

WHY ARE WE STILL YELLING ITS LATE AT NIGHT

[crimson dust]

JUST SAYING SHIT RN 😭

[real hearth]

I DO USE REAPER ITS THE ONLY CREST I USE THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS FUN

[umbral ether]

https://tenor.com/view/pandemonium-pressure-roblox-minigames-fish-gif-15171357108928109444

[gusty urchin]

ok, so are they as broken as spamming shriek with shaman stone and killing a dream warrior in < 10 seconds?

[real hearth]

JUGGLE 1 DODGE 2 BOUNCE 3 IN TERMS OF FUN

[eager elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7AmT_p8Pcc
people can do stuff like this

[gusty urchin]

if so i am genuinely kinda mad that i didnt use them now lol

[odd hull]

Like that, yeah

[gusty urchin]

oh ok i definetily need to use them

[crimson dust]

Dude I'd rather fight 50 Savage beastfly at the same time while infested with bile over doing juggle

[umbral ether]

you handicapped yourself by not using them

[real hearth]

JUGGLE IS SO FUN

[odd hull]

I think they're boring

[real hearth]

i also think spells are boring

[odd hull]

Have fun

[real hearth]

shaman stone ist he most boring charm in hollow knight

[crimson dust]

Yeah they are

[odd hull]

Top 3 charms are the most boring ones

[umbral ether]

fym no this is my thoughts on flea juggle

[real hearth]

liar

[broken seal]

you don't need to slash upwards btw (not saying you didn't know but a lotta people have no clue this is true)

[crimson dust]

@umbral ether 🤝🏻

[umbral ether]

what

[broken seal]

you can slash in any direction and the clea will still go up

[umbral ether]

WHAT

[broken seal]

^

[winged helm]

Nice pfp

[umbral ether]

SINCE WHEN

[real hearth]

ngl i didntknow that either but it doesnt make the minimgame any worse or better

[broken seal]

since literally always lol

[real hearth]

at leaast for me

[eager elm]

this is useful for if a flea is going to the side, you can redirect it to the middle with a side slash of the opposite directiob

[broken seal]

it makes it a lot easier/more consistent for tons of people

[odd hull]

True, it's very useful to get them last second

[umbral ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461513990919422108/1462595156640403692/explode-1768780232367.gif

[real hearth]

i cuold see why

i could definitely see it being usper useful on controller

[crimson dust]

Ik I always stayed down and just normal attack with reaper

[real hearth]

i play on mnk

[broken seal]

it's usually better to do only side slashes instead of upslashes

[real hearth]

that makes sense

[crimson dust]

See y'all later @real hearth ur a good rage baiter saying you like juggle good one tho

[cunning geode]

monkey?

[odd hull]

Byee

[real hearth]

only the turth

[eager elm]

mouse n' keyboard

[cunning geode]

whats a keyboard

[real hearth]

⌨️ 🖱️

[eager elm]

a board of keys

[cunning geode]

woah

[atomic sparrow]

a wooden board with keys that you jingle to play

[broken seal]

piano or smth

[crimson dust]

Going to attempt This memory in sands of karak

[cunning geode]

yeah i also play kbm for HK

always have

[atomic sparrow]

how about for ss?

[cunning geode]

yup

[atomic sparrow]

hello Wombat

[real hearth]

i play mnk for every game

[odd hull]

Good luck with that

[cunning geode]

hiya

[odd hull]

That memory is fun

[umbral ether]

sekiro looks fun i think ill buy it later

[real hearth]

also yeah i guess i see how mnk can not look like mouse&keyboard its just a carryover from another community

[broken seal]

for HK i used pc for mods + speedrunning (cuz of downpatching) and controller for everything else

[real hearth]

kbm is probably better

[crimson dust]

Appreciate it

[umbral ether]

im never gonna buy ds2

[real hearth]

????

[umbral ether]

heard it's not good

[real hearth]

best souls game not being purchased btw

[broken seal]

for SK i've only used controller so far cuz i don't have it on pc (i'll prob get it eventually)

[real hearth]

buy sotfs ds2 is actually good

[cunning geode]

i knew what you meant from the beginning i was just being silly

[real hearth]

the people who hate it hate fun

[umbral ether]

maybe later idk

[odd hull]

Death Stranding 2 looks so good tho

[real hearth]

like people who hate flea juggle also hate fun

[umbral ether]

dark souls 2 also death stranding 2 doesn't look like the kind of game i would like

[trim estuary]

I would play it but I gotta gruel through DS1 first

I think I’m still trapped in the catacombs

[real hearth]

good luck 😭

[umbral ether]

kill the guys with skull laterns

[odd hull]

ds2 was the first fromsoftware game I played, on xbox360. I don't think I have beaten a single boss.

[eager elm]

chat i need masochist ideas
i have karmelita no nail as one
i need inspiration

[trim estuary]

Never have I been more terrified of wheels

[umbral ether]

i played ds remastered first

[umbral ether]

yeah fuck those enemys

[cunning geode]

sunder pistol start each level

[eager elm]

?

[cunning geode]

you'll understand when you get older

[real hearth]

no items zango

[eager elm]

🥱

[odd hull]

I know, I was joking . DS2 is very divisive

Both of them

[real hearth]

its boring but its masochistic right up your alley

[eager elm]

so straight out of moss grotto?

[real hearth]

well maybe not straight out because u need to be in a3 to fight but no nail upgrades or tools

[umbral ether]

yeah i also think i would rather buy a game i have heard is good(sekiro) then one ive heard mixed messages on(dark souls 2)

[eager elm]

mods

[real hearth]

yeah sekiro is probably higher chance youll like it

[umbral ether]

also once iveplayed seikro ill have played almost every modern from software game

[graceful oyster]

Nine Sols

[eager elm]

new idea: eight zangos in the smallest arena ever

[umbral ether]

because ive already played ds1 ds3 elden ring bloodborne elden ring nightriegn ac6

[graceful oyster]

[real hearth]

8 zangos in second sentinel arena

[odd hull]

I got Sekiro, Elden Ring & DS1RE as gifts recently. Started with the OG ofc, and gladly so.
But ds2 seems so charming, eventually I will get to it

[trim estuary]

did you do deep of night

[umbral ether]

nope last played before that was added

[trim estuary]

or beat Greg

oh

[real hearth]

if u want to paly the trilogy make sure you play in order very important

[umbral ether]

who the fuck is greg

[trim estuary]

Greg is insane dude

[umbral ether]

do you mean the dreglord?

[trim estuary]

Yeah, Greg

[umbral ether]

i don't have the dlc

[trim estuary]

Missing out

Undertaker is awesome

[umbral ether]

i think i played nightriegn a few times with some people in this server

[real hearth]

greg is cool

[trim estuary]

Probably Pritchett or Tammo or GEF or me

[umbral ether]

i think it was tammo and someone else i just remeber them moving much faster around the map then ive seen in pubs

[odd hull]

I'm mixed on this. I already started a run on ds3 with two friends, now I want to see the rest

[real hearth]

WHY DID U START DS3 NOO

[umbral ether]

i went ds remastered to ds3

[real hearth]

you guys are missing out

[odd hull]

They called me yk, I had to.

[real hearth]

u cant skip it..

[umbral ether]

ask me from 2019 why i skipped ds2

[eager elm]

Do you keep vesticrest with cursed

[real hearth]

@mofrom2019 why did you skip ds2

mofrom2019: im a BUM

[odd hull]

SORRY

[unkempt prairie]

I mean it's not order that's important. DS3 is the easiest one to get into among the trio

[real hearth]

i found my answer

[odd hull]

💔

[real hearth]

the order is very important for the thematics and the story

[unkempt prairie]

Yeah but you can always watch the lore video

[umbral ether]

they aren't connected storywise iirc

[real hearth]

you could but thats less fun than immersing

[odd hull]

They are

[real hearth]

they are

[mellow plume]

10 second grand reed kill :D
https://youtu.be/FkAhTHtVCDA

[umbral ether]

isn't it a loose connection

[unkempt prairie]

Wouldn't call Dark souls immersive

[trim estuary]

I bet DS2 is the missing link here 😭

[real hearth]

no its pretty direct

i played in order and when i got to ds3 there were so many things especially near the end of the game that ds2 touched on

[cunning geode]

MISSING LINK??

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-justice-robot-cool-armor-gif-22051209

[umbral ether]

i know the soul of cinder is every previous lord of cinder melded into one right which is why it uses gwyn's moveset in phase 2

[unkempt prairie]

Look, it ain't gonna matter. Ds3 is a great game to start the trilogy. Nobody's gonna care about the lore when they quit from frustration

[real hearth]

i mean maybe not but i wouldve been very disappointed if i played ds3 first personally

[cunning geode]

i played DS3 first and then did DS1 and I thought it was cool seeing things in reverse kinda

[real hearth]

like there were somethings in ds3 that wouldnt hit really at all and i wouldve completely missed if i played it first

[unkempt prairie]

Yeah, DS3 got me hooked into the game and then I went and tried out the other two.

[cunning geode]

the other two games, Demon's Souls and Demon's Souls PS5

[real hearth]

i mean for the record i played elden ring first i didnt START with ds1 i only played these games for the first time in 2025

[odd hull]

Ah yes, the DS triology

[unkempt prairie]

Demon souls getting remake on ps5?

[real hearth]

if i played in the past i mightve been different

[cunning geode]

already did Eddie

[odd hull]

Omg I played them in 2025 too

[real hearth]

awesome!

my friends got me into them and into HK

[light swan]

are there any silksong bosses that parry your parry

[real hearth]

i only played silksong in march & hollow knight last december so even that im pretty new into

[light swan]

i feel like it’s just sentinel and lace but i’ve never seen it happen on lace

[real hearth]

ngl ive never personally experienced this

[light swan]

it’s rare but when it happens it’s satisfying

[real hearth]

holy tough

[chrome nimbus]

Bilewater wasn't that bad for me.
It's all about timing and pacing yourself.
It's dangerous, it's disgusting, it's definitely hard... but I don't hate the place.

[light swan]

it’s the best area in the game

[real hearth]

bilewater is honestly an awesome area

[chrome nimbus]

I love the lore of the place.

[real hearth]

way too overhated

[chrome nimbus]

And I love the storytelling through the music.

[umbral ether]

it's really annoying

[chrome nimbus]

I. LOVE. Storytelling through music and environment.

[odd hull]

I played HK on march (2025) and silksong on launch. I actually bought HK in 2021, played 10 minutes and quit the game out of boredoom..

But my gf made me try it again

[real leaf]

silkson

[real hearth]

i wanted to play sk at launch but i hadn tplayed hollow knight, i tried it in 2024 and got lost

[real leaf]

silksong at launch was a phenomenal experience

I was fighting a boss fight called transaction

where steam is crashing for 1-2hours straight

very hard boss to beat but worth it

[real hearth]

the souls games & hk/sk were an insane change of pace for me

[odd hull]

Yeah. I remember reading online someone saying "act 3" and thinking it was actually a joke

[real hearth]

the hardest game i had ever played before them was destiny 2 and i got humbled literally less than 120 seocnds into elden ring

[odd hull]

Then figuring out the true ending..

[odd hull]

Fairs lmao

[real hearth]

actually the most surreal thing ive ever experienced

[real leaf]

Yeah besides act 3 is alright

[odd hull]

I feel this lol

Dark Souls was my first 3D game in quite a while (like 5 years)

[real leaf]

act 3 was like reskinned bosses with abyss

[real hearth]

thats awesome

[odd hull]

It was so nerve-racking trying to control so many things at the same time instead of just walking and jumping

[real hearth]

i feel u 😭

destiny is the game ive played the most and the movement in that game is very fluid and dynamic

going from that to a relatively clunky character with an almost opposite gameplay style totally fucked me up

[orchid spruce]

true, i'm very fluid and dynamic

[real hearth]

yo WHO is this

[odd hull]

Yep. I think a lot of people got disappointed with it, but personally I wasn't expecting nothing more than that

[odd hull]

the goat

[real hearth]

ngl i loved act 3 thematically

[light swan]

the one and only wet towel

[real leaf]

Takes me back when i was only 10-11yo when I completed dark souls 1

in 2010

[real hearth]

i know someone who was in a similar boat

[orchid spruce]

what theme does act 3 even have

[real hearth]

they are the one who got me into hollow knight

[orchid spruce]

evil, intimdating void is actually evil and intimidating - the theme

[real leaf]

yeah besides it was okayish not so bad

[real hearth]

its abyss but also like the gloomy "lost" feeling of the world (especially the citadel, as well as a few recurring characters) was really impactful for me

[real leaf]

the funny thing is ive played all dark souls games and other games as well and it was me who introduced my friends to hollow knight 😂

I loved watching them rage

[real hearth]

you adn them are super similar then 😭

[orchid spruce]

oh okay, you meant the atmosphere & vibes

[odd hull]

LMAO I can see it, it's so different right

[real hearth]

one of my favorite clips of all time is during my ds1 playthrough

[orchid spruce]

[real hearth]

YES BUT IT PLAYS INTO THE theme

[real leaf]

themes and such

[orchid spruce]

i will show self restraint

[real hearth]

i actually got humnbled so quickly

[orchid spruce]

i won't yap about act 3 again

[real hearth]

i get why ppl dont like act 3 but i absolutely loveit

[orchid spruce]

[real hearth]

[real leaf]

Even if they rage so much my friends still thank me to this day that i introduced them to soulslike games

[light swan]

discord screenshots are cool

@destiny are you still planning on making a gd level to eggnog

[real hearth]

love that! i feel similarly about my friend(s) where i am glad they got me to explore other games

theres a lot more they want me to play im currently procrastinating trying undertale

mostly because im lazy

[odd hull]

Must have been so cool! But I can't imagine my 10yo self beating the tutorial

[real leaf]

You are for a ride g its a goated game

[real hearth]

thats what ive heard

[atomic sparrow]

they white washed Khann 💔 💔

[orchid spruce]

i think you won't enjoy undertale as much once you reached a certain point in life

so depends

i played it as a kid and loved it

[real leaf]

yeah but my first ever soulslike was demon souls back in 2009, my father bought me a disc for ps3

I didnt know what was soulslike back then i just randomly started playing

[odd hull]

DS1 being slower helped me a bit after a while, felt a bit less demanding. Like, if I started with Elden Ring..

[real hearth]

ignore my voice pitch i sound like a chud in this clip its not usually this bad

[supple reef]

usually you say

[real hearth]

yes usually you gotat trust me tho

[gusty urchin]

he lowkey looks like a hollow knight shroom warrior

[real hearth]

he does they are awesome tho

[gusty urchin]

"WAHHHHH! WHAHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
-Shroom warrior

[supple reef]

so occasionally it is worse

[real hearth]

OCCASIONALLY ITS BETTER

wait im dumb

[odd hull]

They are awesome indeed

[real hearth]

yes youre right occasionally it is about that quality but usually its more toned

and not just loud

[odd hull]

Which is your favorite boss btw?

[real hearth]

sometimes when i scream i lose all of my bass

[supple reef]

this clip makes me want to darksouls

[light swan]

second sentinel

[coral prairie]

open up. daddy has some infection

[real hearth]

in ds1? manus probably but its hard to say, either him or kalameet are probably my favorites

[odd hull]

He's not my first option, but he's up there

[light swan]

speaking of that, I FOUND THE CHARGE CHILD

[supple reef]

first sentinel is better

[real hearth]

truthnuke

[atomic sparrow]

whats the ranking of all sentinels

[real hearth]

why is your second sentinel in that room

[odd hull]

Manus for me too!! I actually haven't found Kalameet, is he better than Artorias??

[light swan]

its where they spawn in act 3

[real hearth]

oh really

[light swan]

yea

similar to shakra, you can ask to reduel as many times as you want

[real hearth]

i think so but hard to say im not super big on artorias personally

[teal ridge]

hi

[odd hull]

Fr? Why?

[odd hull]

Heloo

[real hearth]

i odnt think he works very well with the dark souls game engine

like the gameplay style doesnt mesh well with the boss imo

[odd hull]

Oh, that's totally fair

[real hearth]

if artorias was a ds2 or ds3 boss he would feel more at home

[odd hull]

He pushes in a way DS1 wasn't exactly made for

[real leaf]

Hes like the best dragon in dark souls series perhaps just below midir but dont think so hes better than artorias

[real hearth]

i odnt really like midir either ngl

i think kalameet is considerably better personally

[real leaf]

yeah but midir takes the spot for being the best dragon tho honestly

[real hearth]

like midir is cool its just SO Boring

[real leaf]

Bayle and placi got more cooler

[odd hull]

Ohhhh

[real hearth]

100%

placi and bayle are awesome

people seem to hate placi but i love him ❤️

[odd hull]

I want to play the dlc so bad, but mt pc isn't handling anything anymore

[real leaf]

I love that dragon hes way badass

[quartz cave]

I FINALLY KILLED HADES OH MY GOD

[odd hull]

🥀

[quartz cave]

And of course it was with the twin blades

[real hearth]

he has so much fucking aura

[quartz cave]

I mean it was either that or the flames

[real hearth]

:(, lock in sister youshould

[real leaf]

your pc cant handle ds 1?

[quartz cave]

Chat pans blades are broken
Well all blades are

[real hearth]

wonderful experience

[odd hull]

Elden Ring, I meant

[real hearth]

the ER dlc is so good

[real leaf]

Teleport and that lightning strike when the music stops and he just calls upon it

he doesn't have aura hes the aura

[real hearth]

and lasers make midir's look like childs play

its so awesome i loved it

plus like the set up and everything as well

[real leaf]

if we were to rate all the dlcs of fromsoftware games
I think Bloodborne takes it on the top for me atleast

[real hearth]

i like bloodborne dlc but i think sote is a bit better

[real leaf]

ds3, then sote

[odd hull]

Don't say thaaat, I'll cry

[real hearth]

i think the difference for most is the finale and how it ties together but i think sote is fantastic

[odd hull]

I know i know

[real hearth]

i have bad news..

[real leaf]

Sote i liked it final boss was cool but overall eh its alright
I think messmer and radahn are the only boss fight ive loved in sote

and bayle

[real hearth]

theres only 2 main bosses i dont like in sote

although they both are literally vile filth some of the worst bosses ever but still

[real leaf]

commandar gaius

[real hearth]

terrible

[odd hull]

I follow a guy who glazes Gaius so much

It's funny seeing the reactions

[real hearth]

do not listen to them

gaius has ONE good attack

[real leaf]

Honestly how bloodborne turns out every boss was amazing

Ludwig, lady maria, father

on top ludwig got the best pieces of ost

[odd hull]

Isn't Gaius like, Tree Sentinel 2? How can it be that bad

[real hearth]

i really like maria and orphan, i think ludwig is a bit overhyped but still pretty good, laurence is completely butchered by the second phase & living failures(i forgot if its called this or the other thing) is just ok

[odd hull]

Damnn

[real leaf]

you answered your own question

[odd hull]

Do people hate Tree Sentinel

[real hearth]

tree sentinel 2 except a horribly telegraphed charge attack that he spams and a very very boring fight otherwise

[cerulean sable]

i think Hornet should have a bipod on her needle

[real hearth]

dlc needle upgrade

[odd hull]

Oh

[real hearth]

yeah its a rough one

[real leaf]

I dont think so ludwig is overhyped but i think how ludwig is known for its ost, the boss itself was amazing tbh

[real hearth]

i think both the fight and the ost are a bit overhyped personally relative to especially my elden ring favorites but even in bloodborne only

like people say ludwig has the best ost in bloodborne but laurence is right there

you could even argue maria as well but i probably wouldnt

[real leaf]

yeah lawrence also has very good ost but i feel like ludwig hits diffrent

[real hearth]

i get why ppl really like ludwigs especially that one part

but overall i think there are a few i prefer, its not bad by any means its really good

[light swan]

genuinely feel like im on my first playthrough again

[real leaf]

i get it, and i respect it

[queen acorn]

whys it in

[real leaf]

Hope we get a new game from fromsoftware

[real hearth]

soon...

[odd hull]

Duskbloods or something like that

[real hearth]

im excited for whatever they cook up next i will be there day one

[real leaf]

I dont think so nobody even consider that one...

[odd hull]

Lmao fairs

[orchid spruce]

good job

[light swan]

with what

[real leaf]

Its gate keep behind a fkin atrocious console

[orchid spruce]

with the boss

[light swan]

which part

[real leaf]

multiplat with er quality

Is sea of sorrow really coming this month?

[orchid spruce]

it's like good

[atomic sparrow]

we don't know

[odd hull]

No announcements

[light swan]

oh nice its not slop anyumore

[queen acorn]

but but but

[light swan]

it will be once i add in teleports and phase 2 and stuff dw

[orchid spruce]

maybe a desperado phase could make it stand out more but it's good

[orchid spruce]

[light swan]

yea im gonna have a desperate phase 3

[queen acorn]

its practically confirmed

[light swan]

only if i have time tho

not high on the priority list

[orchid spruce]

shoot out 100 unparriable projectiles after a 0.1s telegraph

[light swan]

you understand how i think

[odd hull]

🧐

[atomic sparrow]

just dodge

[queen acorn]

matthew griffin over here

[atomic sparrow]

🗣️ parry block dodge!

[odd hull]

Looks cool

[orchid spruce]

you must hitless your own modded boss before releasing it

[odd hull]

I wish I knew how to mod bosses. I would make impossible stuff

[orchid spruce]

if you can't, there's a high chance it's slop

i heard silksong has an architect mod that eases modding bosses

basically allows you to make modded bosses without coding

[odd hull]

Ohh nice

[atomic sparrow]

I mean architect lets you do a lot of things

[light swan]

100% i will

[orchid spruce]

i wanna try it once sos releases

[light swan]

pretty much

[odd hull]

i'll check it up

[orchid spruce]

if and only if sos has an S tier boss

[odd hull]

That's a lot of colored boxes

[light swan]

very easy to get into

[atomic sparrow]

sos will prob break a couple things

[light swan]

almost all the purple ones represent a state

[orchid spruce]

scratch

[light swan]

i can set bosses to a state or i can have something activate when it reaches a state

that means 80% of things are already possible

[light swan]

pretty much

[orchid spruce]

i am going make the best silksong mod boss they've ever seen

[odd hull]

I would speedrun my scratch classes everytime in school, can't remember a thing

[orchid spruce]

[odd hull]

Nice nice

[orchid spruce]

i mean, its pretty boring to learn if you have even a tiny bit of coding knowledge

[odd hull]

I see

[thick condor]

Hello everyonee

[odd hull]

Heloo!

[light swan]

i felt like architect modding logic was more similar to gd

[atomic sparrow]

geometry dash 🗣️

[thick condor]

I just arrived. And just so you know, I don't speak English very well.

I hope you like me!! (I'm gay)

[odd hull]

Can you get an attack from other bosses (like idk Karmelita's boomerang) and make him spawn it?

[thick condor]

This is for me?

[odd hull]

No, for illusion

[odd hull]

Welcome! And don't worry about that

[light swan]

yes

you can like, attach an invisible inactive karmelita to second sentinel

and then with the states and stuff i mentioend earlier, you can set karmelita (while shes inactive) to her throwing boomering telegraph

[odd hull]

Oooooh

That's a funny way of doing it

Ty!

[orchid spruce]

[light swan]

i honestly don’t know how to modify sentinel’s current attacks in a way that makes them better, ourside of shockwaves on the dive

dive > backdash > windblade sounds good tho

[long verge]

https://youtu.be/TzTc1ay7rjc?si=F5vdzqitaP9LRn2V

[rose hatch]

Anybody know that one game where you silk the song? 🤨

[dusk quail]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-and-song-silksong-hornet-hollow-knight-minecraft-gif-3101583980423722295

[dense pecan]

jojo's bizarre adventure: all star battle r has songs, and strings that might be made from silk

[rose hatch]

FLINT AND STEEL

Wait a minute

I think I know that guy

That’s the dude from that one goosebumps movie

[umbral ether]

the person who made the song used in the MAP also made other silksong themed songs

[orchid spruce]

MAP?

[umbral ether]

multi animator project

[orchid spruce]

Google told me something else...

[umbral ether]

yeah there is anthour meaning for it

but the one being used here is that

[orchid spruce]

[umbral ether]

i don't think you can post that

[orchid spruce]

must've been the wind

[orchid spruce]

thanks

[odd hull]

I wonder which boss I should try modding. Maybe Phantom

[orchid spruce]

I think a Lace mod will be wonderful

Her moveset is my favourite

aside from goatmelita ofc

[stable mica]

isnt som1 alr making it?

[orchid spruce]

holy hell

that shit better not be spamming 100 silk projectiles

i would want to try it

[odd hull]

mmm same, she has a big potential. But Phantom being kinda lacking it's what makes me want to do them more

[long verge]

I love this fandom

-# most of the time

[still osprey]

I think there is a Lace 2 mod

[queen acorn]

like

lace 2 the fight

[still osprey]

https://thunderstore.io/c/hollow-knight-silksong/p/CC_Collection/WhiteKnightLace/

[umbral ether]

i have been watching evidently fresh for a while

[orchid spruce]

[still osprey]

I haven't seen it at all but it sounds promising

[orchid spruce]

yahlah

[graceful oyster]

You are the moon king

[light swan]

should i make a lace mod after

[graceful oyster]

[light swan]

she doesnt have my favorite moveset but shes fun

[graceful oyster]

Fourth chorus mod

[still osprey]

I should learn how to mod silksong it could be fun

[light swan]

i already play a better fourth chorus theres nothing i can do to fix that boss

[graceful oyster]

Zangy

[light swan]

(that i can think of) (that keeps its identity) (that i can do with architect mod)

[wraith socket]

there better be pillbugs in sea of sorrow

[orchid spruce]

the fat guy in mio is a better fourth chorus

[light swan]

the fat guy in mio is way better but theyre not a fourth chorus

[orchid spruce]

oh who did you mean then

[light swan]

||calderon|| MIO SPOILERS i dont think theyre fat

infact theyre about fourth chorus sized

[orchid spruce]

oh yeah true

that one is more 4th chorus ish

[lavish apex]

no

[heavy wraith]

moorwing has taken my first steel soul attempt

[lavish apex]

assuming you're talking about who i think you are

[silk monolith]

chat is this good on steelsoul

[orchid spruce]

really good

congrats

[silk monolith]

had to have a 100% steelsoul save file before the dlc dropped

also i did not free the gay prince lmao hes still rotting in prison

[timid sky]

Only fat guy i can think of is ||twisted baron|| but he’s not like fourth chorus

[orchid spruce]

i'm gonna do a fifth 100% run and steel soul

maybe i'll like silksong more

[timid sky]

only 11hr??

My best is 15:48 or so

[orchid spruce]

mio spoiler

[timid sky]

Right

uhh i can see it tbh

[lavish apex]

oh this fat guy

[timid sky]

the destructible platforms first and foremost

[lavish apex]

yeah ok i can see that

[orchid spruce]

the other fat guy is totally trash

[lavish apex]

agreed

[orchid spruce]

can kinda appreciate the uniqueness and creativity

but it's so ass

[stiff gale]

Bro how do i beat lace

[orchid spruce]

the sync is crazy

[shrewd drum]

sorrow... tomorrow.... sorrow tomorrow... sea of tomorrow... sea of sorrow tomorrow... sea of tomorrow sorrow tomorrow....

[umbral ether]

which lace

[stiff gale]

Deep docks

She just pokes a million hole in me

[umbral ether]

practice the fight

she fills the role hornet did in hollow knight

[still osprey]

just take your time, she is pretty slow, don't try to rush it

[umbral ether]

yeah iirc her attacks are telegraphed

or im thinking of ll

[still osprey]

nah, you're correct

[umbral ether]

i haven't fought deep docks lace since silksong came out

[atomic sky]

gang just beat her

[toxic vigil]

so spogos are just faster than that tech

[stiff gale]

Can you fight the forebrothers in act 1

[toxic vigil]

umm

[atomic sky]

if you get a simple key pretty sure

[toxic vigil]

no actually its clawline locked

[atomic sky]

honestly i dont think so

yeahh you need the best ability (clawline)

[stiff gale]

So like to access the deeper part of docks you need clawline?

[atomic sky]

i think clawline is what made me love silksong movement more than hk

[atomic sky]

some areas

[still osprey]

no

[atomic sky]

its lowkey better to do that area after getting faydown and clawline

[stiff gale]

Can i go to the second spool fragment in deep docks without clawline the one in eastr side?

[atomic sky]

honestly i dont remember

i think you can, lowkey bro just go and get it

[stiff gale]

Ok

[atomic sky]

if you can you can no point in asking

[still osprey]

the one behind the simple key door?

[atomic sky]

yeah

[still osprey]

If so, no, you need clawline

[atomic sky]

clawline is acquired not even that late

is there a ng+ in silksong

[umbral ether]

no

you can reenter the save and it puts you before gms or ll depending on if you are in act 3 or not

[atomic sky]

damn

thats sad

[umbral ether]

you do unlock steel soul mode upon beating the game

[atomic sky]

i have that

[umbral ether]

why would silksong have a ng plus anyways hk didn't

[atomic sky]

when are they adding godhome bro we NEED one

[atomic sky]

why not ?

[umbral ether]

what would even be the point of it