sk-discussion

[patent warren]

oh my god the enotria developer are making a game based on the la divina commedia by dante!

[light swan]

tbh im much more into the player driven mechanics

if any individual weapon elevates the combat to an insanely high level then im all for it tho (like witch crest or dual blades or katana)

[odd hull]

Fairs, 92 cents is absolutely insane. How long is it?

[opaque sigil]

you should definitely at least TRY monster hunter

[light swan]

or builds like frenzied combo or seraph art rotations or other xenoblade 3 stuff

[opaque sigil]

the depth of that series is insane

[light swan]

sell it to me

[orchid spruce]

affordable game???

[umbral ether]

i wonder when sekiro will go on sale again

[light swan]

ive heard a lot

[orchid spruce]

what's the name

[umbral ether]

or should i just buy it full price

[ancient mortar]

Yeah a lot of strategy in it comes from adapting to the different situations the game puts you in as every situation requires its own strategy.

[odd hull]

Probably june

[ionic gale]

chat I'm tryna get the Speedrun achievement I got 2h 16min time i just got into citadel, should I continue

[umbral ether]

why june

[patent warren]

around 7-12 hours, it has some secret areas too

[odd hull]

Summer sale (I think?). Something like that

[patent warren]

i love indie metroidvania because they cost like nothing

[ancient mortar]

Honestly i wish death knight longhaft axe was an item you could get earlier in elden ring because of how much it elevates the combat.

[odd hull]

June to july iirc

[umbral ether]

alright ill see if it goes on sale then and if it doesn't ill just buy it full price as it's the only modern from software game i haven't played yet aside from ds2

[ionic gale]

but what if I'm not american

[opaque sigil]

I don't even know where to start, there are 14 weapons all of which are basically completely different toolkits that can take dozens upon dozens of hours to master, there's armor skills which can create a lot of different playstyles, rise on top of that even adds modularity into the moveset so you can exchange some attacks with others and has silkbind skills which are special moves

[odd hull]

They generally still cheap. Do you play on steam?

[umbral ether]

what mh would you reccomd people start with

[spiral wedge]

lowkey bilewater aint that bad

[light swan]

bilweater is the best area in the game

[winged lily]

Yea

[light swan]

anyway i just got like 20 more games to play

[winged lily]

Overhated

[spiral wedge]

just beat groal, aint bad

[ionic gale]

inflation though

[spiral wedge]

just be careful lol

[orchid spruce]

Bilewater is one of best silksong areas

[umbral ether]

it's just annoying

[opaque sigil]

World is the worst of the modern 3 but it's not a bad starting point, rise is a lot more mechanically crunchy and you can't rely on iframes as much you gotta actually learn positioning

[winged lily]

Took me like 2 tries

[orchid spruce]

The great awakening

[spiral wedge]

he took me 4 tries but like i was playing it really stupid so whatever

[umbral ether]

the only mh ive played is world and i felt the movement was too clunky

[light swan]

why am i so bad at mio

[opaque sigil]

in rise you can fly

[winged lily]

Mist worse than bilewater imo

[lavish apex]

you're probably like the best mio player

[odd hull]

Insane.

[spiral wedge]

oh absolutely mist is AWFUL

[light swan]

i doubt it

[umbral ether]

the ducts exist

[light swan]

surely speedrunners out there are better

[winged lily]

You can wash off the maggots atleast

[umbral ether]

i don't remeber finding the mist that bad

[winged lily]

But the music is basically nonexistent

[orchid spruce]

come speedrun nine sols, 2nd anniversary soon

[light swan]

yayyy hp skip

[spiral wedge]

lowkey phantom runback is so much worse than groal

[orchid spruce]

we have a rando race

[ionic gale]

try to kill every spirit you see bcz they will NOT leave you alone and fighting more than 1 spirit is really annoying

[spiral wedge]

true...

[orchid spruce]

[silver laurel]

bro what

[light swan]

absolutely useless because i dont wantdamage u pgrades

[patent warren]

i found out how to deal with those spirit

[spiral wedge]

the mists is misery

[umbral ether]

isn't there a bench in the organ?

[spiral wedge]

oh wait RIGHT I FORGOT ABOUT THE BEMCH

[silver laurel]

theres a bench in the organ dude

[light swan]

the fucks is a requiredboss for rando right

[spiral wedge]

i didnt know about it until after i beat her

[orchid spruce]

no

[spiral wedge]

oops

[odd hull]

Oh, cool, hope you have fun! I liked it a lot — only played ds1, elden ring and sekiro tho. I gonna priotize ds3, but ds2 seems so charming

[frosty kelp]

yes we need more speedrunners

[opaque sigil]

hammer my beloved

[orchid spruce]

you can find ||super buster|| by chance and just head straight to ||Eigong|| (nine sols)

[umbral ether]

my computer should hopefully be able to run it as it could run ac6 and e33

[light swan]

oh thank god

[frosty kelp]

oh for rando do you just pick up everything

[orchid spruce]

yeah

[graceful oyster]

Hey would you want to run a YOMI match? Kinda wanna see where you're at rn

[patent warren]

Every day i wake up, i search if there's any mod for shovel knight, find nothing and then feel disappointed

[old compass]

I forgot there's a gauntlet before the frickin deep docks mask shards
I'm on steel soul mode so it scared the shit outta me

[graceful oyster]

I could throw every combo by hustling or smth

[frosty kelp]

I think illu might hate ||Fuxi and Nuwa|| idk

[opaque sigil]

I have not played since last time but sure

[orchid spruce]

you will love the speedrun techs, illu, i think

[light swan]

my friend recently played the fucks and absolutely hated that fight

[umbral ether]

yomi hustle is very fun

[frosty kelp]

grynne finally in nine sols pfp

[frosty kelp]

yeah I'm sure he would they are so cool

[orchid spruce]

glitches are nine sols speedrunning's juice

[light swan]

and then fought john tall twink next and loved it because of how much better it was than the fucks

[orchid spruce]

rando will use a lot of those

[odd marsh]

is nine sols good

[umbral ether]

yes

[orchid spruce]

pretty mid

[plush plover]

john tall twink is utter insanity bro

[odd marsh]

better or worse than the orignal hk

[light swan]

better

[plush plover]

Awful game dont play it

[frosty kelp]

speedrun discovery for just skipping ||smb|| when? I wanna see people just do lv 0 ||Eigong|| literally just after the run starts

[orchid spruce]

trash compared to hk

[odd marsh]

2 sides of men

[frosty kelp]

better

[graceful oyster]

I'm setting turn timers to 60 for funsies

[odd marsh]

i asssume worse than skong?

[frosty kelp]

imo better than skong

[umbral ether]

do you play modded yomi hustle

[light swan]

me when ledge storage rope storage type shit

[odd marsh]

frick ts im plaing balatro

[plush plover]

silk song is my favorite gsame ever

[graceful oyster]

Nah

[orchid spruce]

that's too far

[orchid spruce]

teeheehee

[odd hull]

I think you won't run into any problem. It's surprisingly compact

[odd marsh]

imo skong is better than hk and if people say its worse than hk that would mean its worse than skong too

[frosty kelp]

I've seen enough send him to any% hallway

[old compass]

fish used to be catchable

[odd marsh]

i hate mio

[frosty kelp]

I think illu should start with ASS or smth cus any% is nightmare

[umbral ether]

added it to my wishlist on steam so i should get a email if it goes on sale right

[odd hull]

Nice!

[light swan]

all silk skills sucks

angle side side triangles are very annoying

[odd marsh]

hey, not all

[orchid spruce]

i will continue learning any% i think, i am already 30% in

[odd hull]

I need to replay Sekiro more, started a NG+ run and was absolutely destroyed

[odd marsh]

sharp dart/parry s my fav

[light swan]

i dont want to hear it from you

[orchid spruce]

i want to do my first any% for blind's birthday but idk if i have the willpower

[odd marsh]

thread storm is ok i guess, rest are mid

[frosty kelp]

nice keep cooking

[odd marsh]

whyd u not like any

[orchid spruce]

spider leap is very intimidating

[light swan]

anyway i beat the a cat first try no abilities no upgrades no anything yayy

[frosty kelp]

POV: sending this screenshot out of context

[orchid spruce]

this is so tame, we used to have higher standards

[frosty kelp]

I kid you not my one nerd friend thought pb meant lead cus of periodic table

[odd marsh]

wasnt there some luna person who was targetted for no context ss

[light swan]

valid

[orchid spruce]

whos that

[odd marsh]

idr

[frosty kelp]

I quote: "I thought he was about to kill someone with lead."

[frosty kelp]

one of my irl friends

[frosty kelp]

how about needle parry

needle parry my beloved

[orchid spruce]

this is tame but cute

[valid sable]

Women don't exist

[frosty kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/chou-kaguya-hime-kaguya-hime-kaguya-princess-kaguya-oceanicsx0-gif-2147851626252090772

[light swan]

name a good female character that doesnt have an instrument

[frosty kelp]

this is my reaction to needle parry

[light swan]

she makes songs she is a good female character with an instrument

[old compass]

dora the explorer

[frosty kelp]

nah iroha uses an instrument but Kaguya just sings also I wasn't sending this to answer your question 😭

[light swan]

ialready softlocked myself in mio

[light swan]

i dont care anyway she sings thats the same thing

[frosty kelp]

maelle?

[light swan]

bad female character sorry

[frosty kelp]

how 😭

[light swan]

gosh why is mio so beautiful

[light swan]

doesnt have an instrument

[frosty kelp]

bruh

what about mio

[light swan]

wields a flute

[orchid spruce]

this one needs a LOT of context

[hybrid flare]

Wrinkled destiny vs damned destiny

[frosty kelp]

I haven't finished the game so ok :)))

[frosty kelp]

same person

[light swan]

not a spoiler

[hybrid flare]

Yeah about right tbf

[light swan]

the first time we meet her she already uses her flute

[orchid spruce]

[light swan]

and she happens to be one of the best characters in all of fiction

[frosty kelp]

the NSS files 😭

[hybrid flare]

The sols files

[light swan]

why is facedancing so fun and unstoppable

[frosty kelp]

no only NSS community

the sols did nothing except for ||Fuxi and Nuwa||

[light swan]

is it technically forehead dancing

[hybrid flare]

Fym never ask lady epstein

What she did on that virtual island

[frosty kelp]

oh yeah

[orchid spruce]

the marcy files

[light swan]

wdym oh yea you havent played xneoblade 3

karin vs lady epstein whos the worst soulscape user

[frosty kelp]

I meant mio

[light swan]

who wields a flute

in xenoblade 3

[frosty kelp]

i meant mio from memories in orbit 😭

I think I'm hallucinating mio with a flute

[light swan]

you are hallucinating + mio from mio is not a good female character because she doesnt have an instrument

[orchid spruce]

its bc shes ugly

[frosty kelp]

if you're standard for a good female character is wields an instrument and ask name a good female character who doesn't then it's impossible

so instead I'mma name a bad female character who wields an instrument who is hornet :)))

[light swan]

exactly

its impossible because its true

[hybrid flare]

Fuck ebrietas' charge bro that shit is instant

[orchid spruce]

this guy gets it

[frosty kelp]

I think she's slightly evil 😭

I'd say her intentions are good but sometimes she does evil things

[hybrid flare]

Maria's a great character and she doesnt wield an instrument

[light swan]

lace songsilk is back

[hybrid flare]

And instrument for splitting skulls? maybe

[light swan]

sounds like a bad character to me

[frosty kelp]

mainly saying killing karm after already having 3 hearts is a training for a more important matter

[hybrid flare]

[hybrid flare]

Yes but far fields gone

[frosty kelp]

I think TC should have at least made hornet admit she was doing a bad thing

[light swan]

ok now name a female character with an instrument go

[orchid spruce]

that requires competent writing

[frosty kelp]

Heng

[light swan]

exactly

[frosty kelp]

Kaguya Iroha Yachiyo 😭

[light swan]

mio ripoff but who cares

[hybrid flare]

Coping

[frosty kelp]

yeah hornet was just coping 😭

[light swan]

EXACTLY

[frosty kelp]

she got called out by Gilly

[hybrid flare]

Lwk i see it that way

[light swan]

wtf even is hengs character tbh i hardly know her

[frosty kelp]

PLAY THE GAME

[hybrid flare]

play the game.

[frosty kelp]

AND GET TRUE ENDING ON YOUR OWN

might take a few attempts

[hybrid flare]

I mean tbf her characterization is basically ||"Yi i miss you come back"||

[frosty kelp]

Heng is holy peak character 😭

[light swan]

just tell me bruh

[light swan]

this is what i remember

[umbral ether]

what game are you talking about

[frosty kelp]

no but she respects Yi's ideology and Yi just disrespected her religion

[lone crag]

she says the act was savage but only if karmelita is one of the first three killed

[light swan]

nine sols

[frosty kelp]

hmm ok

[lone crag]

she also says the reason was just but again only if she's one of the first three

[light swan]

i mean i still remember heng but i wonder if she has more depth outside of what i know so far

[lone crag]

so maybe she knows it wasn't just if karmelita is the fourth

[hybrid flare]

Nope

[frosty kelp]

I think she knows but the way she explains it to Gilly makes me kinda annoyed

[frosty kelp]

"No more pending messages from Penglai" 😭

[umbral ether]

iirc ||she is dead before the game starts right||

[light swan]

what does this say about hengs character

[frosty kelp]

500 years before the game starts

or smth like that maybe 400

[frosty kelp]

last message to Yi was so cute

[light swan]

im asking about her character not how cute she is

[lone crag]

i broke his jade thingy

[light swan]

kevesi power frame but ok

[frosty kelp]

eh she's pretty much a good person who respects Yi's ideology but her whole character is Yi pls come back

[light swan]

ok so shes still a mid character Come On Bruh

couldnt even be a good mio copycat

[odd hull]

Why would you do this to him

[lone crag]

i don't like him

[umbral ether]

nine sols came out first

[hybrid flare]

oh my fucking god bro they didnt playtest ebrietas

[umbral ether]

bloodborne?

[hybrid flare]

correct

[lone crag]

i drew loam from silksong stabbing him with his beak but it looks awkward without blood

[light swan]

nine sols released 2 years after

[odd hull]

Loam deserved to die

[lone crag]

i will draw everyone dead

[light swan]

im not talking about that game am i

[remote jungle]

I thought loam was a key for a second

[umbral ether]

oh right a character in xenoblade chronciles 3 is called mio

[hybrid flare]

the fucking unavoidable commander gaius charge

[real hearth]

that boss could have been so good (ebrietas)

[hybrid flare]

Fr, the charge ruins her

[light swan]

im so bad at mio

[real hearth]

100%

[hybrid flare]

Also the camera sometimes tweaks the fuck out

the same game has TWO instances where it zooms out why couldn't it have been THREE?!!

[old compass]

steel heart update:
I beat widow

[lavish apex]

wrong!

you're the mioat

[old compass]

lol

[graceful oyster]

Tammo kicked my butt

[remote jungle]

The bell hitting you lol

[graceful oyster]

[light swan]

why wouild i even bother sparring with you when youre this bad

[graceful oyster]

The match equalizer was one hit per combo which I mostly followed

[opaque sigil]

Not quite how I’d describe that lol

[graceful oyster]

One of the combos in the replay looks like multiple hits but there was a point in between where we were both actionable and then from there I think it was 1 + the kill process

Which was the move I mentally banked from your burst

So, all good here

Wait no, chainsaw, bomb, KP

Dang

I'm a dirty cheater

[lavish apex]

this looks kinda sick

[light swan]

yomi hustle is sick

[graceful oyster]

Genuinely you've got the stuff to beat me in a real match against my main with not much more experience

[light swan]

bro im so bad at mio istg

[graceful oyster]

Already really good

[light swan]

DISREGARDING MY TWO INSANE CLUTCHES IN A ROW

[ancient mortar]

I do hope we get a mio dlc

[light swan]

i died

[lavish apex]

i hope we get plural mio dlcs forever that would be cool

[ancient mortar]

I think the base combat is so interesting that if we got significantly more complex bosses and enemies it would be purfect

[opaque sigil]

They’re working on Something™

[lavish apex]

wait they are??

[opaque sigil]

Nothing announced

[ancient mortar]

I have few problems with the moveset of mio my only wish is that there were more complex boss movesets, and more complex basic enemies.

[opaque sigil]

But it’s been alluded to that they’re busy with something that hasn’t been announced

[graceful oyster]

They haven't released anything in a long time and they're still working and online every day lol

Something is coming

[lavish apex]

i'm unsure how dlc is a thing that would be implemented considering the setting

[ancient mortar]

I think mios base combat mechanics are really good, I might like them more than silksong, i just liked skong boss movesets more (excluding the truly incredible mio fights which are better than most skong fights)

[graceful oyster]

I don't think they'll be doing a dlc per se but big updates to change/add stuff they couldn't get to on release

[lavish apex]

unless it's like

dream sequences

[opaque sigil]

I mean there could be stuff like boss refights, maybe those unimplemented platforming rooms

[ancient mortar]

Boss refights would be nice

[opaque sigil]

It would be hard to physically add much to the world

[light swan]

im conpletely satisfied with speeper

[lavish apex]

yeah

[light swan]

genuinely i cant stress how fun the boss is

[lavish apex]

boss refights would be cool

[light swan]

ik y’all have your problems but like

[opaque sigil]

Speeper and sasuke are good ones to have access to forever but it would be nice to see ||anra my beloved||

[opaque sigil]

I literally am the only one who has no problems with speeper

[light swan]

about the teleport to the middle thing, but i move around so much anyway that it really is not a problem

especially with my slingshot usage

[ancient mortar]

I want to fight ||sol and vin again|| they are so peak, unironically my fave fight in the game, I love that it takes the ground because mios combat plays incredibly when airborne

[light swan]

the middle third of the arena is a big part of the arena and most bosses are fought in the middle third tbh

[hybrid flare]

I have very few issues with speeper

[hybrid flare]

Truth nuke

[lavish apex]

comparatively same

[light swan]

you don’t play every boss groundless already?

[ionic fern]

chat is rhis sk discussion

[opaque sigil]

I would fw a boss rush but the healing mechanics might be ill suited to that unless it heals after every fight

[lavish apex]

||i just kinda wish he had more hp|| mio

[graceful oyster]

There are mods that let you do that + I have save files specifically set to fight them

[ionic fern]

Who is speeper and sasuke

[ancient mortar]

Not generally.

[light swan]

spoilers for a different game

[ionic fern]

[light swan]

i already play every boss groundless except for like… scarecrow

[lavish apex]

and the pacing thing but that's not that big of an issue

[graceful oyster]

If you're interested

[light swan]

and debs

and ive been doing that since demo, jts so fun

[opaque sigil]

When will we stop pretending washing machine isn’t a fun fight

[graceful oyster]

REAL

[hybrid flare]

Debs is a waiting simulator i hate that fight

[lavish apex]

i'm not pretending

[light swan]

all fights are fun

[light swan]

valid complaint

[ancient mortar]

I just don't like it being so predictable, it's not a major issue at all, doesn't bog down the fight significantly but I feel it would make encounters a little more unpredictable and increase his effective health if you didn't know exactly where he'd appear every time.

[graceful oyster]

Let's give it up for F&N and Washing Machine!!!

[lavish apex]

karen is fine

[graceful oyster]

Overhated fight gang

[hybrid flare]

Same as speeper kinda but he has no hp

[lavish apex]

drac will never be good but it's not Terrible

[light swan]

speeper? waiting game?

[lavish apex]

like it's not nearly as bad as like unravelled

[hybrid flare]

Ye

[ancient mortar]

My strategy often includes attack the middle of the screen before he appears because I always know where he'll be, which is a lil silly

[graceful oyster]

Why is overflow allowed to be so cool

[opaque sigil]

And when will we start putting a cat in S tier where it belongs

[light swan]

what game are we playing bruh i literally have to rush down dashes between my attacks witj how fast this guy is

[hybrid flare]

Mfs complain about elden ring bosses but then glaze speep

[light swan]

give a man more than 1 second of rest PLEASE

[lavish apex]

speep is not waiting lol

[graceful oyster]

Top 1 guard breaks
...
And bottom 1 attacks of all characters

[ancient mortar]

Tbf Elden ring has some dog shit boss fights

[lavish apex]

you can be hitting it constantly

[hybrid flare]

acat has 2 attacks to his name (and the ost)

[hybrid flare]

Many

[ancient mortar]

Mios boss battles never hit the lows of Elden ring

Very few games hit the lows of Elden ring bosses

[light swan]

4, not counting phase transition and desperation, but ok

[hybrid flare]

Yeah mio has a consistent boss roster

[ancient mortar]

Elden ring just also happens to have some of the highest highs

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-2-burnt-ivory-king-lore-walk-gif-13970152430695518670

[hybrid flare]

Most of em are mid but the highs are good

[light swan]

even the slam attack isnt a waiting game as i gotta get to a crystal, pop a grounded bop, and slingshot into an instant shairpin

[vale whale]

the chaos has spread in my absence

[hybrid flare]

Literally bloodborne

[light swan]

shit is NOT. a waiting game

[lavish apex]

the worst boss in mio is still probably better than like 85% of afterimage's stinker roster so playing that game made me appreciate them a lot more

[vale whale]

the worst boss in mio is all of them

[light swan]

85? generous

[vale whale]

theyre all terrible

[light swan]

why are you pretending to be me

change your fucking pfp now

[opaque sigil]

Awaiting the pop arc

[hybrid flare]

the worst boss is either shitmos or washing machine

[light swan]

disgrace

[light swan]

i guess phase 2 irs more of a waiting game

[vale whale]

no

[light swan]

but it’s necessary for the pacing because constant 100% intensity is not good for pacing

[lavish apex]

i wish i liked mirror like you do illusion

i nohit them earlier today and it was just like
agonizingly boring

[ancient mortar]

From soft games in general have some of the worst stinker bosses, also somehow some of the best bosses ever

[hybrid flare]

Mirror? like 2doors?

[vale whale]

i wish i liked skibidi toilet

[ancient mortar]

It's always the fucking dlcs where they put all the good fights

[hybrid flare]

truth nuke

[vale whale]

ds1 is dogshit lowkey

like boss wise

[ancient mortar]

Basegame bloodbornes bosses are not all that

[light swan]

see what i mean by how im the only person who appreciates mio combat this much

[hybrid flare]

eeeh there are things to like about it but it's really just mediocre

[vale whale]

ive done over 15 runs of ds1 now

[ancient mortar]

Elden ring has a few good bosses basegame

[hybrid flare]

Yeah basegame ds1 has no good bosses

[light swan]

i still havent nohit them theyre difficult :(

[hybrid flare]

But the dlc has 2 amazing bosses

[vale whale]

i only do them for my pvp characters

[ancient mortar]

Dark souls 3 has the best bosses but the dlc ones are still better

[hybrid flare]

bb mogs

[vale whale]

yesterday i had a sick pvp clip

[hybrid flare]

ds1 doesnt deserve its dlc

[ancient mortar]

Talking basegame, bb basegame bosses are just alright generally, not many standouts outside of dlc

[vale whale]

not a single good base game ds1 boss

[hybrid flare]

Gascoigne and central european nation?

[opaque sigil]

DLC is uh a mixed bag
Half light
Gravetender

[ancient mortar]

Im realizing now how much it sounds like I hate these games. Bloodborne dark souls 3 and Elden ring is one of my favorites

[graceful oyster]

Number 10: Robot has way too much aura
Robot has way too much aura that it distracts you from the gameplay. Why would Ivy create such a... BEING... with so much aura? Are they stupid???
How- how are you supposed to focus? when Robot has so much aura???

[trim wedge]

OnS is somewhat good

[vale whale]

awww matching

[hybrid flare]

Especially central european nation that fight hits like a truck

[opaque sigil]

Ok but this is just true fighting a robot is terrifying because it CAN grab you from anywhere and it WILL pound you into dust and there’s nothing you can do about it

[ancient mortar]

Didn't mind them too much but yeah not ideal. Ringed city had enough highlights to be good though.

Elden ring has some great fights basegame but it's bogged down by so much garbage

[hybrid flare]

Bb basegame's bosses fall off lategame and that pisses me off

[graceful oyster]

[lavish apex]

shade cloak the boss

[hybrid flare]

Tbf most of that garbage is js reused enemies

[vale whale]

i wanna get a ps4 pro just so i can play ds2 ds3 sekiro and bb

[ancient mortar]

I think the way I talk about games is too negative sometimes, I like all these games I just have more fun talking about the negatives sometimes

[hybrid flare]

Like when talking about ACTUAL bosses like the mainline ones elden ring is pretty consistent

[vale whale]

i woulf say elden ring but i'm getting tarnished edition

[trim wedge]

few great bosses yeah but too much ass as well

[light swan]

i have problems with all my games but i gain no joy from shit talk in them

[trim wedge]

I love Mohg

[vale whale]

i do

[trim wedge]

but then the game has the beast

[hybrid flare]

Yeah mohg is clean but his blood trails are hard to see

[light swan]

i’d prefer talk about what i like because that just makes me lovr them more

[hybrid flare]

Old animal isnt bad it's just mid

[vale whale]

yo no spoilers pls

[opaque sigil]

Elden beast is fine it works as a spectacle fight

[light swan]

not that i dont like hearing criticism

[vale whale]

i love shitting on games i play

[light swan]

i just like to enjoy my games and think goodly about them

[lavish apex]

no elden ring bosses stood out to me in really any way but i also played that game in probably the worst way possible

[hybrid flare]

Rahdragon does the job of being the actual mechanical final boss and he does the job well enough

[ancient mortar]

I like talking about the negatives because I find them interesting, understanding where games could have been improved. I think I need to temper it by also talking about what I do like too, if it's all negative it just feels like bashing.

[graceful oyster]

There was one time I was hosting a beginner lobby and sitting there (with the owner crown) waiting for beginners to challenge me so I could toy with them a bit by doing a command grab whenever I could. Basically a big fat "YOU FAILED. ~BANG BANG~ Try again."

[spare isle]

Groal the Great

[trim wedge]

Mohg and Messmer are great

[ancient mortar]

I actually liked Elden beast

[hybrid flare]

Bayle:

[lavish apex]

never got the dlc, probably never will

[trim wedge]

yeah bayle is good too

[hybrid flare]

Godfrey, godrick and morgott

[light swan]

about speepers predictability, i did talk about this before in a convo conpletely unrelated to you but i have no problems with a boss being predictable

[vale whale]

i know so many people who played er before a ds game and i know there's literally NOTHING wrong with that but it feels so gross

[light swan]

infract theyre so much more predictable than you’d think

[lavish apex]

yeah that's me

[graceful oyster]

I only did that to like 2 people though it felt mean

[hybrid flare]

ds1 is grossly janky

[vale whale]

like theyre not connected at all but i feel like you need to play ds first

[trim wedge]

dark souls 3 has better bosses

than elden ring

[lavish apex]

it also made me not really want to play any of the other ones

[exotic dome]

do i almost feel fear

[light swan]

predictability for me opens up a lot of room for optimization

[hybrid flare]

One day ill play ds3 and see for myself

[light swan]

you know what you can commit to and what you can’t do, you. know how to set yourself up for the future

[vale whale]

i wanna play ds2

in the dark souls switch server EVERYONE glazes ds2

[graceful oyster]

This is definitely my favorite robot fight

[hybrid flare]

the worldbuilding doesnt seem too great especially when most locations are just a rehash of the previous games

[light swan]

not saying that bosses should all be the same but like

every fight is different anyway even if i know everything the boss is gonna do

[old compass]

I am ultra prepared for steel soul after I get my hunter upgrade

[vale whale]

iirc ds3's dlc is just ds1 shit😭😭😭😭😭

[exotic dome]

it's not that good but i think it's better than 1

[hybrid flare]

💔

ofc it came out 1 year after bb shit is rushed

[vale whale]

and they retconned stuff about gwynevere which pisses me off to no end

[light swan]

i’d prefer have a predictable boss with unique responses againsr each predictable atyack like speeper than an unpredictable boss where you react the same exact way like sasuke

[vale whale]

why would she run off with oceiros bum ass when she runs off with flann????

[ancient mortar]

And in fairness I think most of the bad Elden ring bosses are optional fights for unimportant items. I wish there were less side dungeons and they focused on quality over quantity, there's some great catacombs and I wish there were more like those good ones and less overall.I think most of the main rememberance fights are quite strong actually and well designed, esp mohg horah loux, rad, malenia, etc.

[trim wedge]

ringed city is peak

[lavish apex]

sasuke isn't hard to predict

[hybrid flare]

Malenia is forever tainted by waterfowl

[light swan]

my problem with sv is that they take the worst out of both of these approaches tbh

[exotic dome]

ringed city is miserable to traverse, gael is the only saving grace

[vale whale]

nye tak tak tak tak doa dat nyet shta bin bin bin so ha wo haaaaa

[light swan]

shes harder to predict

[hybrid flare]

and the fucking wings in the 2nd phase that cant let me see shit

[trim wedge]

not a huge fan of Malenia, Godfrey phase 1 is great but his phase 2 is meh

[vale whale]

my problem with sv it is useless and annoying and sucks

[light swan]

speeper always appears in the middle so you can always predict where to attack

[hybrid flare]

Nah lwk its very good twin

sv mogs any other mio boss

[ancient mortar]

Yeah fair, it's a matter of preference, is suppose I prefer a level of unpredictability as I like the challenge of needing to adapt on the fly but I do see the appeal of being able to slowly optimize one perfect strat

[trim wedge]

too many fakeouts, not a huge fan

phase 1 is awesome

[hybrid flare]

Godfrey doesnt have feints

[exotic dome]

sv is cool but i get why some people don't like their damage output gimmick

[hybrid flare]

everything is also well telegraphed

[trim wedge]

I think ER boss design has one massive issue and that is not knowing when enough is enough

[hybrid flare]

Sv gotta be my favourite duo boss ever

[trim wedge]

phase 2 does

[hybrid flare]

Nope

[lavish apex]

they're up there

[ancient mortar]

Most of the everhood fights are entirely predictable and about learning the pattern, so I do like that style too, idk.

[trim wedge]

Sv?

[light swan]

they always appear in the same locations, AND i react to every attack the same way

[hybrid flare]

||Sol n vin||

[light swan]

spoilers but okay fucko

[lavish apex]

extremely hot take but i'd take sob unless they're just a trio

[trim wedge]

I see

[hybrid flare]

Doesnt count

[lavish apex]

and that excludes them

[hybrid flare]

If its 2+ individuals it becomes a gank fight

[ancient mortar]

I liked mal she just had one poorly done move

[trim wedge]

my fav multi enemy boss gotta be SoB

[lavish apex]

i compartmentalize both as ganks

[light swan]

theyre also just really nonthreatening from how slow and simple the attacks are

[hybrid flare]

yeah SoB is amazing

[exotic dome]

sob is the best gank fight ever

[ancient mortar]

Dark souls 3 had the best overall bosses, tho er dlc had the highest highs

[trim wedge]

can we all agree SoB is a top 10 fight of all time

[light swan]

still fun becuase theyre thr third best boss but far from perfect

[ancient mortar]

I forget what that acronym means

[trim wedge]

sisters of battle

[lavish apex]

if sob are excluded then yeah i think sun and moon are best

[ancient mortar]

Oh I disagree

[hybrid flare]

Imo not really true as them being 2 allows for far more variety in their attack combinations

[ancient mortar]

Good but too easy to cheese

[hybrid flare]

And yk, there's the gimmick

[trim wedge]

never tried cheese idk

[hybrid flare]

Def not top 10 my entire top 10 are duel fights

[lavish apex]

what's the cheese

[ancient mortar]

Ddark ruins that fight

[light swan]

variety but their attacks are still slow and simple

incredibly easy to punish

[lavish apex]

ehhh i disagree

[trim wedge]

I see, I never use it on em tho

[light swan]

it’s not like them being 2 adds new complexities

[hybrid flare]

Their attacks might be simple but the game keeps restricting your options to dodge them

[hybrid flare]

..But it does

[lavish apex]

at least in my experience it's hard to do that

[light swan]

especially since you can just ignore one of them

[exotic dome]

im trying to think of a better gank fight than sob, no one is better for me

[lavish apex]

because of the startup

[hybrid flare]

Imo it's a good way to escalate difficulty

[light swan]

say they do a sweep and a downslash

[ancient mortar]

In silksong or mvs in general

[light swan]

you shairpin bop wild cat either one of them

[hybrid flare]

Either sweep and downslash, either downslash and throw, duo sweep, duo downslash, etc

[light swan]

conpletely ignore the other one

[hybrid flare]

The other one forces you to interact with the fight either way

[lavish apex]

i can see it

[trim wedge]

ngl I haven't seen that level of flow

[light swan]

duo sweep is useless because both of them covers the same exact range

[exotic dome]

in any game that has gank boss fights, but sure there might be a better boss in a game i havent played yet

[light swan]

duo downslash is useless because if you jump to hit them youre nowhere NEAR the other one

duo downslash is legit free damage you can’t tell me otherwise

[lavish apex]

if silksong dlc does coggies but 3 that will bang

[ancient mortar]

I generally felt most sv moves I reacted to differently, perhaps with optimization it all becomes the same but on my win against them I found it quite varied

[vale whale]

the big hui from nine sols constantly spawns annoying enemies which chase you arounf the arena and throw projectiles and one of them is a big guy who throws a super op projectile and does physical burst attacks

[hybrid flare]

True but it's still an attack where both clankers pressure you into doing something

[light swan]

downslash and throw is good, i fucking love the throw it solved my issues

[hybrid flare]

Also god forbid a boss has punish windows

[light swan]

so what, youre not gonna do something regularly?

[light swan]

my point is that 80% of the time you can ignore the other one

[hybrid flare]

I am, but "ignoring the other one" isn't really something you can say because its not true

[light swan]

it provides 0 pressure

[vale whale]

my point is mio sucks buttcheeks

[trim wedge]

I kinda didn't hate the boss as much but him and Goumang are stains on a really great lineup

also egg is absolutely peak

[hybrid flare]

Because the other one you "ignore" is likely zoning you out in a specific spot

[ancient mortar]

Bloodborne has the coolest combat system I wish it had more good bosses though, some of those basegame fights are snoozers, there's some great ones don't get me wrong, but there a lot of ones that are not so good

[hybrid flare]

Egg is a top 5 boss oat ye

[vale whale]

him, gougou and fencest

[hybrid flare]

Dlc fixes that by introducing 3 of the best bosses oat

[vale whale]

worst bosses

[trim wedge]

ehh fengs were amazing

[exotic dome]

i didnt hate ns gank bosses except for ||second xingtian||, but they are mid

[vale whale]

that isn't a gank

[hybrid flare]

And the basegame has also a really great final boss

[vale whale]

stomachmouth 2 isn't a gank

[exotic dome]

he just uses annoying summons

[light swan]

resisting the urge to send death threats, instead i’ll congratulate you on your unique taste

[vale whale]

the pinkies go down immediately if youre good enoigh

[light swan]

why am i even shitting in sv theyre a fun fight

[vale whale]

and you have unbounded qi

[trim wedge]

lmao

[light swan]

it’s just so easy to conpletely ignore anything theyre doung

[hybrid flare]

they're THE fun fight in mio

[exotic dome]

i first tried it, it's unfun

[vale whale]

theyre THE worst fight in mio

[lavish apex]

1 of 3

[light swan]

0 pressure

[hybrid flare]

I mean likely you're still actually interacting with S and V you js dont realize it

[light swan]

conpletely neutralized with a hairpin

[ancient mortar]

Yeah but that's an issue with a lot of from soft, dlc is just one part of the game, doesn't make the overall roster that great on average.

[vale whale]

so don't interact with mio

[hybrid flare]

every boss ever

[ancient mortar]

I had a harder time with sv than speeper tbh

[hybrid flare]

It does since it's a part of the game aint it

[lavish apex]

same

[vale whale]

bloodborne looks peak because the final boss is a baby and you beat it to death

[graceful oyster]

RAAAAGH OVERFLOW

[light swan]

say you hairpin speeper

[hybrid flare]

orphan of PEAK

[light swan]

and then he hits you

thats impossible on sv

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but he doesnt because 0 pressure

[lavish apex]

i think sv are the only mio boss that took me more than an hour

[vale whale]

i think mio sucks

[hybrid flare]

I can lwk clip through his attack w hairpin half the time

[light swan]

unless you downdash into an attack or something

[lavish apex]

that's great man

[exotic dome]

sv is good because i tried to equip a lot of modifiers and tried hitless, it was fun

[vale whale]

thank you❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[ancient mortar]

What I'm saying is 3 bosses being peak doesn't raise the average too much. I just wish there were more peak bosses than just those few. On average I like bloodborne bosses less than ds3, but I think bloodborne has 3 of the best individual fights.

[light swan]

it sucks seeing all this speeper hate and sv glaze 💔 can we get some correct opinions

[lavish apex]

most games don't have that many peak bosses

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but those 3 peak bosses are top 5 bosses imo

[vale whale]

reposting my ds1 pvp clip please glaze me

[hybrid flare]

But the bosses fall off extremely hard in mid-late game

[ancient mortar]

They are both my favorite bosses in the game. I generally found sv more challenging and therefore more fun personally but that's just my taste.

[light swan]

am i getting ragebaited right now

[lavish apex]

i think speep has way cooler attack design

[hybrid flare]

Speep's an elden ring boss

[lavish apex]

even though they're easier

[vale whale]

mio has way worse gameplay

[umbral ether]

why did they just stand there

[lavish apex]

i don't know enough about elden ring bosses to validate that comparison

[ancient mortar]

Who the hell plays ds1 pvp

[vale whale]

didnt know whst to do ive never beena. backstab fisher bef9re

[lavish apex]

there sure are combos in that fight but like the damage widows are large and plentiful

[vale whale]

im pretty bad at pvp i just have fun

i got the backstab anyways tho so that gave me the win

i should grab hornet ring

[light swan]

i want to keep playing speeper

[ancient mortar]

I... Hmmm. I can kinda see it? But I'd compare him to like an Elden ring dlc boss which I'd considered a compliment.

[light swan]

one day i’ll get the flawless perfect phase transition

[umbral ether]

they also i guess didn't switch sorceries because they did the failed casting animation before getting backstabbed

[vale whale]

the only way it would have worked for them would have been if it was soulmass

[ancient mortar]

Elden ring dlc bosses are very flashy but have very complex movesets that are fun to respond to

[light swan]

i just realized my speeper hitlesses are mostly parryless

[ancient mortar]

That's because using no parry is way more fun

[lavish apex]

not a lot you can't hairpin

[vale whale]

i backstabbed them so it wouldnt have hit anyways

[ancient mortar]

They should add more negative mods for the hardcore players, to make it so we can get more difficulty fights without making the average players life harder, a mod that reduces your damage to 0 damage upgrade and one that reduces hairpin Iframes.

[lavish apex]

speep is helped by ||having a massive fucking hitbox that you can usually touch from almost anywhere in the arena||

[quartz cave]

Are yall talking about mio or elden ring 💔

[lavish apex]

it means ||you get to attack in every gap||

[ancient mortar]

Anything but silksong

[light swan]

MAJOR MIO SPOILERS

why is it ok for this boss to appear in the same spot every time but it’s not ok for speeper

any time they don’t appear in the same spot its a time waster and free damage

[potent vessel]

cogwork dancers?!?

[ancient mortar]

I feel like I'm the only one who ever commented on the appearing in the middle thing and said it was a fairly minor critique.

[quartz cave]

I honestly wish mios combat wasnt so so lackluster specially early on

[light swan]

you’ve talked about it a lot i thought it was a pretry major complaint

[foggy gulch]

NOOO DUDE i feel so bad why did i kill the cogwork dancers

they didnt do anything to me

[quartz cave]

Yea so can you please not joke about that

[light swan]

sorry

[potent vessel]

they locked you in a room and started attacking you bro 😭 🙏

[ancient mortar]

@light swan this is what I said on it

[foggy gulch]

but i went into that room

[potent vessel]

what 💀

[foggy gulch]

doomed yaoi makes me so sad :(

[light swan]

you’ve brought it up to the devs and it’s the #1 thing you talk about every time we talk about speeper (aside from hp) so mb for thinking that

[potent vessel]

victim blaming

but you're the victim

[ancient mortar]

Well the hp thing is easy to explain so doesn't need more elaboration

[short trout]

Also they are literally machines

[quartz cave]

Chat should i make a new poptlc playthrough

[ancient mortar]

And my main thing was damage resistance

Increasing it on phase transition

[lavish apex]

i mostly wish there was a bit less time between attacks

[ancient mortar]

Significantly

[light swan]

there’s not enough time between attacks for me

[foggy gulch]

but still tho

[light swan]

fuckass speeper teleports away RIFHT BEFOFE I CAN LAND A SHAIRPIN

[short trout]

Whatever you say

[glacial bane]

Hi

What are you talking abt

[foggy gulch]

that is probably my most favorite boss fight in silksong rn

[light swan]

how the hell is earlygame mio combat lackluster when games like hollow knight, silksong, blasphemous, etc exist

im flabbergasted

[ancient mortar]

Speeps I think stands still too long for some attacks making his health bar easy to mulch through so those attacks should have their damage res increased a lot.

[lavish apex]

one part of the reason i like, for example, karmelita and pv so much is that there is a constant flow of attacks back and forth

[ancient mortar]

That's always been my #1 talking point

[light swan]

not only is it 5x more dynamic from the getgo, the first ability transforms it to 15x

[quartz cave]

I agree with hollow knight until the point that hk you get good combat upgrades way earlier than in mio

[trim wedge]

pv is much better tho, karmelita's third phase is cool but doesn't last long

[quartz cave]

Silksong on the other hand i feel like hunters pogo adds so much to it

[rich pagoda]

I love hunter pogo

[quartz cave]

But neither of those two compare to poptlc that abilityless has you doing fucking aerial combo ping pong with enemies shove them to the ground and then torture them

[lavish apex]

speep will often do one and just sit for a bit as they teleport and start another attack and then you get enough space for like 8 hits before you need to respond to a hitbox

[light swan]

the 3 hit combo adds so much and airstalling adds so much and stunlockinf adds so much and dj refreshes add so much

[rich pagoda]

Hiya, new pfp jumpscare lol
I got art of my DnD character commissioned

[ancient mortar]

I honestly think the teleport location thing was like the 3rd most talked about change I reccomended to the devs, definitely not my most.

[rich pagoda]

Still Gwyn, just not Clippy anymore

[quartz cave]

Imo the therre hit combo hurts it! Becaus eit doesnt have enough to support it early game at least

[lavish apex]

which is why i think increasing their hp, while it is something i support, is kind of a bandaid solution

[quartz cave]

Having a combo that resets makes it feel way more repetitive than hk did

[light swan]

it’s still minimum 1 combo

[vale whale]

i need my backstabs to be more lethal

[quartz cave]

Poptlc has a three hit combo and airstalling but also so much more potential with different attacks

[light swan]

hk has 1 hit with the same cooldown in between

how is this even fucking possible

genuinely ragebaited right now

[quartz cave]

Exactly what i am saying, it only has one kind of hit

Im being serious im swear

[ancient mortar]

I generally prefer it when most of my damage is dealt during a bosses attacks not in downtime between them, my biggest issue with sv is probably that they have a move where they stand still and do nothing but get whaled on.

[quartz cave]

But seeing the same three hit combo repeated over and over and over again without really any other abilities to support it makes it feel more repetitive than simple slashes

[vale whale]

idk how to deal with a member of the chug club

[lavish apex]

agreed but not relevant to the point i'm making

[quartz cave]

Idk if you get what im trying to say

[vale whale]

talismans wont work

[light swan]

im genuinely

like

i think sk discussion is unhealthy

[quartz cave]

That part is true

[light swan]

i already know no one likes my takes on combat

[lavish apex]

the combo thing is a stupid point

[ancient mortar]

I don't see it really, the combo makes it lot more interesting

[light swan]

i’ll just shut the fuck up and enjoy my games in a corner

[lavish apex]

i don't care about that either way

[teal ridge]

6000 rosaries

[light swan]

i know everyone around me hates speeper and mio combat

why do i bother

[potent vessel]

what is speeper

[vale whale]

i hate mio

[quartz cave]

It would if it had something to build it around, but just staying in the air repeating the combo

[umbral ether]

what is speeper

[rich pagoda]

I personally find Blasphemous combat feels pretty repetitive and I honestly think the pogo of HK and the spells by far makes it feel more interesting and diverse in combat flow than Blasph 1

Blasph 1 also suffers from the metroidvania style door/path unlock relics having no in combat utility for the most part and kinda just being strictly navigation

But that's my opinion lol

[quartz cave]

Geniunely add other base abilities and it has potential to be so good

[lavish apex]

it does? have other abilities?

[quartz cave]

I havent tried blasphemous but i so agree that the pogo and spells add so much

[rich pagoda]

HK and SK both blend their path opener type progression abilities with the combat flow
SK does it better

[light swan]

and i hate it

[ancient mortar]

I think you are taking gameplay opinions too personally, these kinda things are entirely subjective and people have different preferences. I don't think anyone is bothered by you having differing views on it.

[lavish apex]

there's shairpin and wildcat and bop and strider attacks and ground attacks and

[quartz cave]

Sk also has better combat simply because of the crests system that changes youe whole movement

[hybrid flare]

Extremely hot take incoming

[light swan]

theyre talking about earlygame combat

[hybrid flare]

||I prefer shura isshin over regular isshin|| sekiro spoilers

[vale whale]

i remember when someone blocked me for hating on green pinstress in putrified ducts

[patent warren]

Idk how its possibile but with One Attack last judge left me with 1 mask, i have 7 mask!

[quartz cave]

Im talking earlymidgame where you only have hairping, float and parry

[rich pagoda]

Wait, why do you hate that?
It makes the combat more fun, fluid and dynamic and less repetitive

[vale whale]

the corpse

[umbral ether]

what are you even talking about

[lavish apex]

not silksong

[ancient mortar]

I haven't played sekiro recently enough to have a take here

[vale whale]

m*o

[lavish apex]

we're talking about mio

[quartz cave]

Hairpin is cool i like it, theres one ability in poptlc thats the same (but better because you can also pull enemies towards you) and i adore it

[umbral ether]

in orbit or the xenoblade 3 character?

[hybrid flare]

It fits so much more than the regular ending one

[lavish apex]

memories in orbit

[vale whale]

in poop

[quartz cave]

Lemme download poptlc again see if i still have a savefile tl take a clip off

[light swan]

im sorry i just genuinely don’t understand at all how this is lackluster this is the funnest earlygame combat i’ve played by FAR

[lavish apex]

i do like hk combat more (sorry illusion) but i don't really think earlygame mio combat is bad

[potent vessel]

whats wrong with it

[lavish apex]

it gets the job done

[rich pagoda]

I know that you do really like Blasph but I feel like Blasphemous 1 is the easiest example I can give for "boring metroidvania combat" in comparison, and why HK and SK have such a nice combat system

[light swan]

movement does all of this and more

[lavish apex]

it's hard to get worse than actual metroid combat

but yeah blasp 1's isn't great

[quartz cave]

Lemme hop on poptlc cause

[rich pagoda]

Yeah but what movement
You have the same movement throughout the game of Blasph 1. You get a dash attack. Uhh
Das it tho.

It's boring.

[light swan]

it feels useless to me when what I get is a combat thing and not a mocement upgrade

[quartz cave]

GUH fym 23 gb i swear it wasnt this big

[quartz cave]

A good ability can be used for both

[rich pagoda]

HK and SK both have lots of movement upgrades and changes

[quartz cave]

-# coincidentally all abilities in poptlc have utility and combat

[light swan]

like silkspear?

[ancient mortar]

Someone said mios early game combat was lackluster? I don't agree with that I think it does generally well in giving the most interesting abilities early, which makes its early game more interesting than many mvs. I do think every mv has a problem with slow early games but mio definitely has this issue the least imo.

[light swan]

im talking about the first ability being combat and not movement

[ancient mortar]

Silksong would benefit from clawline way earlier tbh

Since it makes most fights better

[lavish apex]

vspirit is peak idc

[quartz cave]

Maybe its not that lackluster but just playing sons and poptlc beforehand really shows you that you can do so much more

[rich pagoda]

Literally
All
Blasph 1 upgrades, are combat only.
You don't get movement abilities. None of those are unlocked. The relics granting progression are only really to unlock paths otherwise impossible and do little else.

[ancient mortar]

I have not played blasphemous in so long, idk if I'd even still like it nowadays after playing better mvs. Art is still great tho

[vale whale]

literally nothing the guy was weird as fuck and was like " everybody ignore the baiter " because i was hating on the green pinstress png

[ancient mortar]

Personally I think silksong didn't really pick up until far fields

[quartz cave]

Tbh i didnt even know blasphemous was a metroidvania

[ancient mortar]

Skong before dash is misery

[lavish apex]

it's honestly closer to just being a 2d soulslike

[ancient mortar]

Hunters march also was good

[potent vessel]

no im asking whats wrong with green pinstress

[lavish apex]

blasphemous 2 is VERY metroidvania

[quartz cave]

I fucking hate this trashy internet we got its not even that much cheaper than the older one but it is SO much slower

[ancient mortar]

That's a good point I think

[light swan]

i completely agree with you about blasphemous 1 dw

[rich pagoda]

I can see why that's kind of an issue in both HK and SK tbh
In SK you get Vengeful Spirit first. In SK you're intended to get Silk Spear first iIrc.

But my point is that holy shit Blasph combat is boring and HK and SK early game is still fun.

[vale whale]

he's a bum and he died outside of his own home with the wreath of purity

[potent vessel]

😭

[lavish apex]

without rpg or significant build mechanics

[rich pagoda]

It is.

[lavish apex]

many aspects of blasphemous 1's gameplay are either just there or kinda bad

[vale whale]

the mio devs are lazy and evil

they put no soul into their shit game

[potent vessel]

should i play blasphemous 1 before 2?

[ancient mortar]

Is onion still chudposting

[rich pagoda]

I'm more interested in playing Constance than I am Mio tbh

Constance is cute looking

[vale whale]

nah blasphemous 2 first

[lavish apex]

i still love that game with all my heart for the art and vibes and music and the map being cool but the gameplay is

yeah

[vale whale]

yes constance has purple guy mio is ugly and dogshit

dont give those bums your money

[light swan]

all i hear about constance is that it’s really ass

[rich pagoda]

Uhh
Honestly? If you value your sanity? No...

Watch some lore deep dive video on the game instead.

[light swan]

MAJOR MIO SPOILERS ismoil dont click i dont tjink youre here yet

there’s no way i can have this much fun with 0 abilities 0 mods 0 damage upgrades

[vale whale]

im crine it's all the same colour

[ancient mortar]

Once boss refights are released I gotta try these guys with all negative mods

[rich pagoda]

I haven't given it a try but from all the videos I have seen it looks good?

[vale whale]

shit and vomit

[ancient mortar]

There's a game called constance?

[vale whale]

thats their name

[rich pagoda]

Yes

[vale whale]

it's way better than mio

[ancient mortar]

What genre

[rich pagoda]

Also a 2D platformer Metroidvania

[vale whale]

youre a purple guy with a paintbrush

[ancient mortar]

Ah, I'm trying to take a break from the genre until sos

[lavish apex]

what makes me say that is the fact that all of the pickups that directly unlock things in exploration are just optional

[ancient mortar]

I think I burnt myself out with nohits

[lavish apex]

and that's like. a key feature of the genre

[rich pagoda]

Hehe
Might I offer you
Monster Hunter as a break

[ancient mortar]

The only thing I remember out of blasphemous is the art, the only thing that stuck with me

[vale whale]

unrelated but

[ancient mortar]

Remembered enjoying it though

The game I mean, but not many actual gameplay aspects that I remember

[rich pagoda]

The art and music of Blasphemous is amazing

[vale whale]

i dont even like death stranding at all but how tf did e33 beat death stranding on the beach for goty

[ancient mortar]

I remember I liked the boss that's a big face

[lavish apex]

i've played it like 5 times

[exotic dome]

blas2 soundtrack is very good

[rich pagoda]

Dear gods the art direction is great but the gameplay is kinda shit

[lavish apex]

blasphemous 1 soundtrack also very good

[light swan]

from all the people i know who’ve played it’s just not engaging and it’s pretty boring rhere arent really any good things about the game

it’s their go to for a bad metroidvania

[rich pagoda]

Aw

It looks so cute tho

[vale whale]

i was on tiktok scrolling and i saw this insane clip IT LOOKED LIKE REAL LIFE

[vale whale]

he likes mio btw dont listen to him

[silk panther]

I can definitely understand why

[vale whale]

it literally looked BETTER than real life

that shit was majestic

[exotic dome]

play castlevania circle of the moon if you wanna play a bad metroidvania

[vale whale]

e33 was definitely a bribe how did ds2 not win any graphics related awards

that shit is gorgeous

i havent ever played it btw

[lavish apex]

play metroid dread if you want a bad metroidvania

[rich pagoda]

Oh ya
I'm kinda excited for the new Castlevania game

[lavish apex]

it's only $60

[quartz cave]

I so am

[silk panther]

😂???

[exotic dome]

i have no idea how good is ds2 but e33 is a goty material

[quartz cave]

I heard it was quite good

Is it truly bad?

[vale whale]

nnnnoo it isnt

[lavish apex]

i hate that game

[umbral ether]

have you played it

[vale whale]

the final boss is literally tung tung tung sahur rising from the ground

[lavish apex]

which is rare

[ancient mortar]

I still haven't touched e33 or bg3

[umbral ether]

what are you talking about

[silk panther]

Ds2 is good but e33 is so good

[vale whale]

to tell them of their ai nature and he kills them

[rich pagoda]

The devs of Dead Cells are apparently working on it and whatever they touch has me intrigued
Because hoo boy the Dead Cells devs cook with gas

[ancient mortar]

Not that I don't think they are good just just seem like a big undertaking

[light swan]

like

[quartz cave]

Ok i got a video now i need to download ot

[silk panther]

It’s just rage bait

[exotic dome]

lmao

[umbral ether]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

[silk panther]

This is hilarious though

[kind tide]

Erm, FELLAS?

[rich pagoda]

I love Dead Cells

[toxic vigil]

Hi

[silk panther]

Yes

[lavish apex]

oh god it's the hornet gif guy

[vale whale]

t³ is reborn at the end of e33 and he explains that the e33 mcs are ai slop and he must kill them and then himself to end the ai takeover of the minds of mankind, he beats them and then he gommages himself in the final cutscene to save the world from ai

[umbral ether]

i think it's sorta insulting to the people who worked on it to compare the character models they made and story they wrote to ai slop

[light swan]

i genuinely think mio combat with 0 mods and 0 abilities is probably funner or on the same level as maxed out hornet wirhout witch crest

this is a crazy take but mio is just so much more dynamic and fun and feels so much better

[kind tide]

SHAW

[toxic vigil]

I just like circlet

[ancient mortar]

0 abilities? Not even hairpin?

[lavish apex]

alright that one's incomprehensible to me sorry illu

[umbral ether]

https://tenor.com/view/am-am-ihnmaims-ihnmaims-allied-mastercomputer-hate-gif-3792826578129949285

[silk panther]

This is like uhhhh maybe spoiler the message

[light swan]

not even hairpin

[umbral ether]

none of that is even accuracte

[lavish apex]

you just jump and attack

[vale whale]

they should have used an image of an apple or something as a placeholder then😭😭 mfs couldnt be bothered to use a real placeholder

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bothered-dehydrated-suffering-cat-meme-gif-27693131

[ancient mortar]

Hairpin is so much fun I can't imagine playing without it

[light swan]

yea because you’re a d1 glazer who thinks siljsong is better than 100% mio anyway, i cant say anything to convince you

[lavish apex]

how do you get more out of that than everything in silksong

[silk panther]

Yeah but the person is literally just rage baiting they probably hasn’t even played the game

[exotic dome]

you are inventing unseen levels of mio glaze

[graceful oyster]

If I was a moderator I would call upon my god given right to ban glacial relic because I can

[vale whale]

it is

[umbral ether]

it was removed what more do you fucking want

[vale whale]

mio is slop

[toxic vigil]

If you think about it, there are 3 crest categories so far
Needle usage ( hunter wanderer beast )
Bind usage ( reaper, witch )
Spamming somenthing ( shaman, architect )

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-giga-chad-scream-mirror-gif-15250052683530088091

[lavish apex]

d1 glazer when like 60% of my activity in this chat is shitting on silksong

[light swan]

i’ve held this stance since december

[quartz cave]

All abilities used here are literally from the beginning of the game except for the bow which is your first ability
Also forgot to showcase charged attacks

[light swan]

or november i dont exactly remember

[vale whale]

they still used ai for an extremely easy task

[toxic vigil]

Is this cooking or burning

[quartz cave]

You can see why after this i feel like mios combat could be better

[silk panther]

That is true

[umbral ether]

im blocking them argueing with this person is a waste of time and energy

[kind tide]

Ok but where is hornet?

[quartz cave]

who is hornet

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[umbral ether]

a boss in hollow knight i think

[vale whale]

never ever stating an opinion again i have been called a baiter 7 TIMES

[trim wedge]

her name is jane silksong

[vale whale]

I COUNTED

[umbral ether]

the game isn't out yet so we don't know

[trim wedge]

tired of people calling her hornet

[vale whale]

SEVEN TIMES

[kind tide]

Hey can we get 30 hornet's? They're for the homeless

[light swan]

and this is mio’s fault?

[vale whale]

HAHAHAHHAHAGHAHAHHAHSHQHSGHZBS OH MY GOD YOURE SO FUNMY

[quartz cave]

What did you even say 💔

[light swan]

this isn’t a problem with hk or siljsong

[vale whale]

yes everything is mio's fault

[light swan]

im genuinely so flabbergasted

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/karyl-karyl-clap-comfy-worry-clap-anime-girl-worry-gif-14939017285224928952

[umbral ether]

yeah guess few people did the true ending where she revealed her name to be jane silksong

[lavish apex]

i mean if you included hairpin i would get it but you have 2 buttons to press with no upgrades in mio like

[vale whale]

i said e33 sucks and e33 devs using ai for a small task sucks

[lavish apex]

what

[quartz cave]

I said that it felt very lackluster snd then i said it might not be that much but that it could have been so much better

[light swan]

sure yea let’s include hairpin and harvester

[ancient mortar]

Is this like a training dummy npc

[trim wedge]

yeah afterall the true ending is hard, the act 4 final boss took me 12 hours

[rich pagoda]

My hot take is that Monster Hunter Rise is a great game

[lavish apex]

ok i still don't agree but sure that's fair

[kind tide]

E33 was efemeinent TurnSlop

[quartz cave]

Pretty much, but it still attacks so you can test parry

[vale whale]

turnslop is goated

e33 is not goated

[sharp slate]

Tbh Silksong and Mio are different flavors of combat as well. Just preference in the end

[umbral ether]

no you also compared the final boss to ai which i feel is insulting to the work the makers of the game did

[silk panther]

Yeah genuinely like any one that’s just spouting nonsense just to spout nonsense is not worth anyone’s time just leave it be move on

[light swan]

like im sorry poptlc is a good fucking game and that makes mio combat bad bro im genuinely sorry

[kind tide]

OnionSlop take

[exotic dome]

everything is slop if you slander them correctly

[vale whale]

that gross little orphan gets mogged by true parry lord

[kind tide]

We didnt ask lil gup

[umbral ether]

and that is the last i will say to you goodbye

[rich pagoda]

Y'all should play MH Rise

[light swan]

erm fellas shut the fuck up bro

[quartz cave]

Are you just gonna ignore my last comment or what

[toxic vigil]

I honestly wouldn't get into hk and sk if not for the platforming

[umbral ether]

what is poptlc

[kind tide]

Erm

[ancient mortar]

Idk I can't really judge a games combat system by just the characters moveset honestly, I think my enjoyment in combat comes from the complexity of enemy movesets.

[silk panther]

Illu have you played e33

[light swan]

no

[toxic vigil]

I love platforming in hk
Sk dosen't have as many highs but still good

[kind tide]

Deserved and based of him to ignore u

[silk panther]

I think I saw you talking about playing it a while ago

[wind mulch]

me

[silk panther]

Ah you should

[kind tide]

Gigachad

[silk panther]

Very peak

[umbral ether]

assuming your pc can run it

[rich pagoda]

I was lured into HK by a friend playing it and I've been hooked since

[lavish apex]

mio combat is good!!! great even!!

[quartz cave]

Thats fair, id maybe show a boss or some enemies but i did this while streaming and god it was so imput laggy

[toxic vigil]

I love the tool system

[ancient mortar]

Really? I liked skong platforming better, didn't have a path of pain but I felt the challenges were more frequent and difficult

[light swan]

youre saying mio is not as lackluster as you originally said

tha doesnt stop this take from being utter bullshit garbage in my eyes