sk-discussion

[fiery burrow]

TRUE

[fathom iris]

I meannnn the whole point that there needs to be a new hollow knight is because the pure vessel couldn’t contain the radiance as it wasnt truly hollow, because it had a mind and feelings, its not a stretch that the vessel actually has SOME mind and feelings

[lone escarp]

wait, i just realised that one guy talking about twilight "edward couldn't read bella's thoughts, because she doesn't have any" is literally the hollow knight plot

[fiery burrow]

TK is truly hollow

Its just void inside

[normal bramble]

Ok but HK has 200x better writing then twilight

[tender grove]

GMS isn't even evil lmao Hornet just sees targets on people's heads and justifies the killings later

[normal bramble]

(I hate twilight sm 😭)

[fathom iris]

tk??

[lone escarp]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGC5eFyWkAAKD0k.webp

[old compass]

there are evidence that points towards the knight having thought, whether or not the radiance can sense true purity is unknown. She could have just assumed the knight has no mind

[fiery burrow]

The Knight

[fathom iris]

but why did it save hornet or defeat radiance with no feelings and how does it do… anything without a mind?

[fiery burrow]

what

its hollow i didn't say it had no mind

[lone crag]

doesn't being hollow involve the no mind to think line

[fiery burrow]

look at them eyes there's nothing behind them 😭

empty head

[fathom iris]

to be truly hollow is to have no mind or feelings, the reason pure vessel wasnt hollow was because it grew a bond with the pale king

[lone escarp]

the radiance LITERALLY infects through thoughts. she knows. because she's tryna infect him in the fight. that's why she says there's no thoughts, only strength

[frosty light]

what the white lady seems to be saying is that the hollow knight was supposed to be pure, and therefore incapable of being blemished by anything rad might exploit, however they were wrong, and therefore it grew to care about what it was doing, rendering it vulnerable to rad's influence. she never says the knight is pure, but does say that itd be free of what tainted thk, as it was never raised by its family for that goal, theres no path of pain memory moment, so it should be able to hold her off, unlike thk. unclear how right she is about that

[grave badge]

A mask implies a personality

[fiery burrow]

what?

[lone escarp]

that's literally what i said #sk-discussion message

[old compass]

couldn't anyone resist the infection through sheer will

[frosty light]

what was the conclusion

[lone crag]

still so many arguments about the lore

[old compass]

the knight has a lot of willpower

[fiery burrow]

emotionless vessel basically

[grave badge]

The white lady kind of also wants it to work

[fiery burrow]

so kinda what everyone assumes initially

[frosty light]

yes

[grave badge]

Probably made similar assumptions about thk being perfect

[exotic dome]

hk fans are not beating the allegations

[fathom iris]

its not going by the dictionary definition tho…………

[fiery burrow]

the only catch is that a pure vessel does have a mind cuz rad can only exist within the dream realm

[fathom iris]

[fiery burrow]

what definition are you going by twin

the skull is literally hollow its filled with nothing

THK is filled with infection Broken Vessel is filled with air

[frosty light]

well in the plot it makes sense that it could simply be impossible, but yknow, that is a very, very low bar, by itself

[fiery burrow]

TK is the only truly hollow vessel

[fathom iris]

what about pure vessel

[fiery burrow]

Well yeah

[grave badge]

The siblings are nothing but they still hold on
They are will

[fiery burrow]

That doesn't exist anymore but it was truly hollow too

[fathom iris]

the definition that the pale king says, no mind, no thoughts and no feelings

[fiery burrow]

huh?

PK didn't write a dictionary

[fathom iris]

then how did it get taken over by radiance

[lone escarp]

kd, k

[fathom iris]

🥹

[fiery burrow]

tf does Rad gotta do with this

that skull was empty bro there was nothing inside it

[fathom iris]

idk bro its 2 am

[exotic dome]

tk isnt pure because they kill people and they are evil

[fiery burrow]

Its called The Hollow Knight cause it was hollow it had nothing inside

[fathom iris]

very very evill

[lone escarp]

idk if ppl are trolling, but TK is truly hollow, that's the whole point. THK was faulty. so we shouldn't be able to walk and swing and solve puzzles and give elderbug flowers, we're supposed to be a vegetable. done, i'm going to sleep, it's 4am

[idle sparrow]

My friend called the knight "the baby from silksong"

[frosty light]

having a mind doesnt preclude being an emotionless vessel tho so not really a catch

[fathom iris]

but it had orange inside tho, is team cherry dumb?

[idle sparrow]

She knows hk by the gifs I send her

[fiery burrow]

Its a catch in the sense that its something commonly misunderstood

[grave badge]

Hornet clearly wont stake hallownest on this assumption

[fiery burrow]

true

[lone escarp]

she evidently does

[grave badge]

She really doesn’t want you to seal the radiance

[limber tulip]

i have gone to all 7 mossberry locations 3 times, im 100% certain i have them all, moss druid wont upgrade my druid eye

[fathom iris]

so are u saying it js shouldn’t be thought about too much? goodnight

[lean pendant]

Fun Fact: It is probably not a good idea to have a praying mantis eat off a wart growth on your skin.

[lone escarp]

js?

[fathom iris]

just

[lone escarp]

well, it's just funny how lore and gameplay kinda go against each other

[frosty light]

well you see the reason the discussions we have now is a result of a multi-year battlefield where millions died is because one of the things pk said is very literally true and two other very relevant ones arent true at all

[lone escarp]

actually, even in the lore, TK should've just been a puppet

[grave badge]

They dont have to

[limber tulip]

how do i make the moss druid upgrade my druid eye. i dont want to sell my mossberries for rosaries.

[frosty light]

oh yeah that makes sense

[fiery burrow]

the multiday long purity arguments...

[rocky jolt]

theres 7 mossberries the last one you get gives you the druids eyes

[fiery burrow]

Silksong robbed this from us

[fathom iris]

if you say that the vessel isnt hollow then it wouldn’t…. but its okay we can agree to disagree, get sleep

[fiery burrow]

No one cares about vessel purity its all lace age and phantom gender with you

[limber tulip]

ive collected them all and i only have the druid eye

and i cant make the mossberry stew either

[old compass]

I feel like hornet nosk is enough evidence to say that the knight has thought ngl

[frosty light]

tbf you cant really blame the guy he was doing a whole speech to aura farm toward someone who wouldnt have really known what he was talking about and didnt expect people from another dimension to hyper-analyze a replay of those events thousands of years later

[rocky jolt]

then just keep selling them for rosaries

[fiery burrow]

true

[frosty light]

is lace pure?

[grave badge]

ok but since when can nosk mind read

[limber tulip]

will i get the prompts after i sell them

[fiery burrow]

PK was a true poet

No blazing kin. Only one light shall shine against the dark.
The Wyrm becomes beacon, minds expanded, to yield, to devote.
Eternity in promise and charge in progeny cursed.

[frosty light]

i realize we cant pretend to discuss about vessel ages and genders because we've already done all of that

[grave badge]

it kind of just tries to guess with the knight

[rocky jolt]

yes

[old compass]

nosk mind reading is literally his entire gimic

[fathom iris]

its heavily implied

[fiery burrow]

You can tell Hornet was trying to mimic his genius with her purple prose

[rocky jolt]

mossberry stew is only after you accept the wish from the gourmand too

[fiery burrow]

son

Even if only your shadow remains, to release your mother's grip my blade would see it slain.
...
Oblivion may take you, child. My own life, I shall not sacrifice.
I have survived the fury of your land. I have borne its barbs and its blades, and I have seen wonder behind its dangers.
But always, child, I remain a daughter of Hallownest. And the void below all things, that darkness I will fear no longer...

[limber tulip]

ok but now how do i get the mossberry stew

[old compass]

ask the guy you got druid's eye from

[grave badge]

Ask kindly

[rocky jolt]

^ he only gives you it after doing that @limber tulip

[fiery burrow]

the fact that she rhymes kills me dude

[narrow bramble]

Todays silksong sponsor is...

[old compass]

lifeblood

[fiery burrow]

she was sitting on that line for all of act 3 😭

[limber tulip]

i talked to the guy but he never gave me a wish 😔

[frosty light]

pks description cant be literal because he canonically taught thk to recognize and fight intruders. that would be lore vs lore. he never actually wanted "no mind"

[rocky jolt]

i mean the wish mergwin gives you in the citadel

[fathom iris]

maybe its on the bone bottom wishwall, or you already accepted it

[limber tulip]

thats who i talked to

[frosty light]

since the start. idk whatever bullshit evolutionary trait its species adapted into to be able to look into peoples essence or whatever but it explicitly mimics people from others' past, including those who are already dead, and therefore surely could not have been seen by it

[rocky jolt]

odd

[fiery burrow]

In the deepest darkness, there are beasts who wear faces stolen from your memories and pluck at the strings in your heart.

[limber tulip]

ok i went back to him and now hes offering it

[fiery burrow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/james-doakes-iuu3hRoxlr2ETPucZW

[limber tulip]

maybe i needed to find all the mossberries first idk

[frosty light]

WTF I NEVER NOTICED SHE WAS RAPPING

child, life, and sacrifice is a bit of a stretch but cmon

shes the one who gave up halfway through

didnt rehearse the rest

[neat remnant]

:|

[exotic dome]

which one is tuffer
"But always, child, I remain a daughter of Hallownest."
or
"Hand it over, that thing, your dark soul"

[frosty light]

[fiery burrow]

dark soul

[fathom iris]

first because its the only hallownest name drop in silksong

[neat remnant]

"No, I am your father"

[frosty light]

the weavers did produce a living experiment in eva... what was up with the magical trilobite statue? why is nosk in deepnest, huh?????

[fiery burrow]

Daughter of Hallownest feels like something they came up with early but didn't know how to make it work so they just put it in at the very end

[exotic dome]

they wanted to include the word "hallownest" somehow

[fiery burrow]

I'm telling you Nosk is a Skynx that learned weaver magic and fled with them to Hallownest (so he could eat more weavers)

[old compass]

hk players when hallownest mentioned:

CINEMA

[fiery burrow]

chills bro chills

[fathom iris]

i mean it works pretty well imo, hallownest is very interconnected to void and she is talking about how she isnt scared of void and is gonna face it head on

[exotic dome]

red memory elevator was a better fanservice

[fiery burrow]

Hallownest wasn't even in the convo though

And Hornet was never afraid of the void

[rocky jolt]

whats this some kind of elden ring

[frosty light]

🔥✍️

[quartz cave]

Alright chat i got a new metroidvania lets hope its peak

[fiery burrow]

finish mio

[exotic dome]

which game

[fathom iris]

she seems pretty scared of the creatures in the abyss and hates the void constructs the pale king made

[quartz cave]

Gow's metroidvania

[fiery burrow]

In the first game she said void gave her hope and she's just way off the mark with the void constructs going so far as to say the void never did his bidding (did she forget about kingsmoulds and THK?) its just pretty sloppy all around

She says she almost feels fear towards gloomsacs

Why didn't she say ts about void tendrils 😭

[exotic dome]

🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️

do i almost feel fear??????????????????????????

[old compass]

hornet is kinda weird ngl

[fiery burrow]

also daughter of hallownest being her boss theme makes it sound so goofy ngl

[exotic dome]

remove 5 journal entries and it literally fixes 90% of the problem btw

[frosty light]

shes just saying that because of the same thing she tells sherma, right? she cant leave without saving pharloom, but as soon as she can, she'll return whence she came. shes willing to do that much for pharloom but cant sacrifice herself for it since she still has to do shit in hallownest. vague shit that doesnt clarify whats going on or even what ending it follows, but

[old compass]

LMAO

[frosty light]

oh i just realized youre starpengu btw

[fathom iris]

yeah i agree that her opinions on void are a bit weird, I still like the hallownest statement cus its hype moment and aura

[frosty light]

if you change pfp and name i WILL be like "who is this" with 100% certainty

[fiery burrow]

Its kinda weird though because "Yea after this I'm outta here back to my homeland" isn't really relevant to the convo nor does it feel natural though

[tender grove]

Hornet probably killed PV too that's how evil she is

[fiery burrow]

My cover

[tender grove]

She definitely saw that CHALLENGE thing fill her with dopamine when she realized her sibling was still alive

[frosty light]

i kind of agree but thats only because we dont know what she wants to do in hallownest. shes directly saying "i cant sacrifice myself. because of hallownest."

[heady iron]

gotta change it to a grimm pfp so that no one would want to open your bio

[lone crag]

i thought hornet said she was scared of the void because of what she did to the vessels

[frosty light]

but we dont know if that place is even populated right now

[fiery burrow]

THK campaign bait

[frosty light]

does she lead people? in deepnest? the rest of the kingdom?

[fiery burrow]

Grimm pfp with a fancy font as my name

and a typing quirk

beautiful idea

[heady iron]

Title Case Typing

[neat remnant]

Lore is like
Cringe

[fathom iris]

[lean pendant]

Hornet vs GMS in an epic rap battle: Who wins?

[neat remnant]

The knight

[frosty light]

yeah if they showed some restraint those 6 years ago the audiences collective wojak capacity wouldve dropped by at least 80%

[fathom iris]

the deis ire can only bring you so far gms, hornet would wipe the floor if she locked in I think

also I think I butchered the name

[frosty light]

she was gonna spare it but she realized that since its a combat encounter, that means a gate closed down to lock them in the temple so she had no other choice

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-corona-borealis-great-wall-dyingant-dying-ant-vs-hydrogen-bomb-gif-3830378093254533308

[tender grove]

Thematically we could say Act III is Hornet realizing there's more to this world that clinging onto the past but no, I think at that point instead of loudly realizing that, she was just berating Pharloomians for being people of an inferior kingdom (she's xenophobic) so she wants to leave immediately to the place where she kills outsiders (that's why she tried to kill Quirrel)

[frosty light]

its a good thing the nailsmith didnt incite our slash by like punching us a bit we would've been fucked

[tender grove]

You all know damn well Hornet went back to killing unsuspecting people in Hallownest after Silksong

[plucky stag]

asgore destroying the mercy button

[tender grove]

Hornet would not have spared the Mantis Lords

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/hydrogen-bomb-vs-baby-gif-16389939655051520745

[frosty light]

if i saw someone trying to win a rap battle by invoking the royal we maybe i would give the win to the random introverted mute kid with no hands to use sign language with

[old compass]

lol

[frosty light]

wait bruh you said hornet, leon's comment completely blindsided me

[tender grove]

You know you gotta be an absolute irredeemable asshole to be referred to as "Hornet" living among bees. You know bees hate hornets. She probably killed a ton of bees out of boredom.

[frosty light]

hornet probably practices rapping in secret in case theres ever a competition for it involving a prize. not because she likes doing it, of course

[fathom iris]

she hates doing it but she has to brace for the worst, just incase

[tender grove]

Hornet knew damn well that GMS had been forcibly put to slumber, and then she literally goes to kill her first thing after waking her up

[frosty light]

except its thk accidentally breaking it when it stabs the floor underneath it in etv

[gray grotto]

god, groal fucking sucks

[tender grove]

She's like "I know you were basically trying to get someone to wake you up, but you inconvenienced me so you gotta die"

[plucky stag]

that's how i unironically approached my first neutral run in undertale

except for one or two spares, any encounter i had i went for the kill

[fathom iris]

sigh wrong ss

[plucky stag]

not quite enough to be full genocide since you have to actively grind them out to activate that mode

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJcjRzamRog

[lone crag]

should i draw lace killing someone

[fathom iris]

I did not steal this from tiktok trust me

[green jungle]

i did the glorious bellhart quest how do i get a bellhome

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-2791469803182064015

[lone crag]

who should lace kill

[lean pendant]

Haha, get it? Cause he has a vacuum suck attack?

[opaque sigil]

Sherma

[near breach]

This is how I feel waiting for sea of sorrow

[lone crag]

on it

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/bonnie-great-sorrow-gif-17251695505958648237

[gray grotto]

😭

[fathom iris]

its alright, we’ve waited longer

[frosty light]

tomorrow for sure!

[lone crag]

maybe

[gray grotto]

i said i wouldn't, but i HAVE to cheese groal

[fathom iris]

do u have wreath of purity?

[near breach]

I'm a newgen so I was still on hollow knight when silksong came out

[gray grotto]

what is that?

[fathom iris]

a tool that protects you from muckmaggots

[near breach]

I started before silksong came out tho

[fathom iris]

haha!!

real

[near breach]

I MEANT TO SAY SILKSONG

FUCK

[tender grove]

Hornet is also so toxic to the snail shamans

[gray grotto]

😮

[fathom iris]

would you like me to tell you where to get it?

[gray grotto]

PLEASE

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-university-snail-going-on-my-way-omw-gif-5461800

[fathom iris]

its a bit hard but, have you saved the shopkeeper of songclave in memorium? you have to go to the area where you save her first

[gray grotto]

the snail who sells ancestral grip?

[fathom iris]

yeah

well she aint a snail but close enough

[gray grotto]

forgot where to save her

[fathom iris]

oh its ok

[kind tide]

Lace on that stage was only hard on my FREAKING eyes

[dreamy tangle]

reduce wanderer crest range its too good

[gray grotto]

nooo

[fathom iris]

in the map room in memorium, there’s a little area that you can jump onto hanging from the roof thats hard to see, it will bring you to a bridge where you have your climb the wall to the very right with the double jump and break a bit of the wall, which will bring you to a new area

its like bilewater but smaller

[gray grotto]

ill look up a map location, but ty

[onyx python]

she does kind of spare seth though so i think she'd respect them and behave like a normal being

[fathom iris]

alr

[kind tide]

She got the ancestral GRIP? 😭 Nao wai bruh

[gray grotto]

what color is it

[old compass]

hey guys I'm gonna stream beating karmilita while parrying every single attack wanna watch

[fathom iris]

naooo

[narrow bramble]

Hornet when she comes being mean, toxic, hatredfull

[fathom iris]

the map?

[tender grove]

She probably didn't realize he wasn't dead, and then she let him live just to take pleasure in the fact she knows everything about Seth's past life and he doesn't. Like a living trophy for her. Some sick stuff.

[gray grotto]

the ability

[fathom iris]

its a tool, its a brown circular reed

ooh

blue mb

😭

[dreamy tangle]

silksong but every time you die to a boss you respawn at the beginning of.moss grotto instesd of the bench you redted at + you cant use bell beast to go back

[gray grotto]

ahhh, I'm using multi bind and injector band rn

i can get rid of maggots and then heal two masks

[fathom iris]

yeah thats good enough id say

[gray grotto]

though, I may have an extra blue slot from eva

[tender grove]

Bad ending in Hollow Knight: you do not overcome your father's vision of stasis and you sacrifice yourself for a mission you will never accomplish (it's bad for the protagonist)

Bad ending in Silksong: enslave everyone and become an actual beast lol (it's bad for everyone else; Hornet is probably overjoyed)

[old compass]

hey I can't share silksong's window only so I'm sharing my entire screen, can you guys help me and check if my stream is showing silksong

[fathom iris]

either keep a kingdom fallen and do nothing about it or destroy a dying, salvageable kingdom

[rocky jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071533012879159458/1123795349950177321/NOFOOTBALLER-1.gif

[tender grove]

Btw, binding into living beings is literal torture. Hornet could've killed them first. What a maniac.

[mental snow]

Why can't there just be a Moss Grotto skip button for Steel Soul

It's so damn sluggish going through it every single time

[fiery burrow]

Skip cutscene button would suffice I think

[mental snow]

I mean being able to skip Hornet being all wobbly and shit would be amazing on its own

[fiery burrow]

Make it skip the slow walking scenes, dialogue, silk heart sequences, and red memory too ngl

idk how we're still making games in 2026 without skip cutscene options

or 2025 ig

[mental snow]

I saw a Discord link for a second, did that get automodder

[fiery burrow]

the scam bots...

[mental snow]

One of the servers I'm in has a trap channel for scam bots like that

[scenic yoke]

THIS SKIP IS KILLING ME

[fiery burrow]

i'm telling you they got to make #hk-general the trap channel

[scenic yoke]

So we all know the skip in wormways behind the locked door right?

WELL.

[mental snow]

Cocoon Skip, tryna get to Shellwood?

[scenic yoke]

I have been trying to get into that stupid door but can't reach the ledge, and I legit TOUCHED THE LEDGE WHILST FLOATING AND I DIDN'T GRAB IT?

[scenic yoke]

No its a door that requires needolin to enter

[mental snow]

Ohhhh
Yeah no, you don't ledge grab while in float
Lemme get you a video

[scenic yoke]

YOU HAVE TO BE FU-

[mental snow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/aHZkAaITzj

[narrow bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346671155431346247/1497784952249516113/01d81a7001886e1a9c3c6552448d9b8b.png?ex=69eec870&is=69ed76f0&hm=0a026c27ed98a515033748edffe1be6d901bed5155309a610acbf0e41613fbd3&

[scenic yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/jamiep-jamie-paige-birdbrain-vocaloid-teto-gif-13819866244189481639

[mental snow]

This'll help

[fiery burrow]

why did reaction images suddenly become super funny in like late 2025

[scenic yoke]

THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKIN DOING BUT I DIDN'T KNOW FLOAT CAN'T LEDGE GRAB AAAUUUGGGGHHH

[mental snow]

Something that makes it easier is jump, float, then dash-heal stall, then float the rest (and let go at the ledge of course)

[quartz cave]

Oh my gos this metroidvania is already better than a lot of games ive played and i havent even started it yet

[fiery burrow]

vagueposting

[mental snow]

instead of immediately dash-heal stalling

[quartz cave]

It took until TWENTY TWENTY SIX for game devs to realize that voices arent prt of the regular audio!!!!

This shit has a "make voices louder and clearer" option holy shit

Never more fitting that one kratos meme
DEVS
ADD THIS TO EVERY VOICE ACTED GAME AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
Sincr this is a god of war game lmao

[fiery burrow]

what game

[mental snow]

Watch they're gonna put the "SHAW" and "Hagale" voicelines behind a $2 paywall

[quartz cave]

The only god of war metroidvania out there

sons

[fiery burrow]

oh I can't read

smh

something something hk fans

[quartz cave]

Immediatelly jumping into "vaguepost" instead of waiting for the follow up smh

Honestly the artstyle is gorgeous but the characters specifically look out of place and idk why

[ornate perch]

GUYS I ALMOST NO HIT LOST LACE

with… reaper crest…

[lean pendant]

What if Hornet just Talk no-jutsu'd Grand Mother Silk instead of fighting her?

[ornate perch]

So I was doing a challenge

About beating her with every crest

[mental snow]

...what is this meant to really imply?

It's a Crest

[ornate perch]

Reaper was up, And uh this happened

[ornate perch]

It’s the first time I use it

Anyways

Next up is Witch

[scenic yoke]

Okay ledge grab happens automatically upon coming in contact with a ledge yes?

[ornate perch]

Yes

[scenic yoke]

alr

[quartz cave]

Actually it might be the animation

[scenic yoke]

Making sure I'm not going more crazy

[mental snow]

I just made some jank ass physics happen, one sec

[quartz cave]

How come this shit already has better combat than mio and i literslly just started the savefile

Like gow games are known for fun combat but

[gray grotto]

is the white thing on top of groal a head or nose?

[quartz cave]

It also has disney infinity-like orbs and i love those

[quartz cave]

Oh my god this map is like prince of persias the lost crown

[brave geyser]

Type shit that makes me cry about steel soul taking too long

[quartz cave]

It tells you if youve missed shit or not on the area selected

[green jungle]

bro y is there a bug in putrified ducts that drains ur whole hp

[quartz cave]

This,,, this is so peak,.,.,.,.,..,.,..

New goated metroidvania incoming???

Also it has quite interesting healing

You can use a weaker version of your attack on enemies to inflict longer stun and get healing orbs

[mental snow]

You know it's weird why you came to Silksong discussion to talk about this

[quartz cave]

Are you new to this chat

Cause this chat is only silksong like 45% of the time

I like it they really just turned god of war into a metroidvania

They ported the whole mechanic where if you can attack an enemy enough to fill a white bar under their health they get a big stun

Metroidvania ans gow together this might become one of my favorites ngo

They literally have the hoppers from hk as an enemy and theyre just as annoyying

[scenic yoke]

NAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

I LEGIT TOUCHED THE LEDGE NOT FLOATING

AND STILL DIDN'T GRAB

DA FUCK?

https://tenor.com/view/mother-violence-i-crave-mother-i-crave-mother-i-crave-violence-gif-7480307375027007545

[exotic dome]

7 years............................

[rocky jolt]

yadda yadda this game has too many bugs yadda yadda yeah whatever bro

[scenic yoke]

Be glad you aren't having to do the literal definition of insanity for a skip rn (T^T)

[exotic dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1367802205134131223/1395319579114475725/sleep.gif

[quartz cave]

THIS GAME HAS PETTABLE DOGS

Goty
Fuck resident evil requiem and pragmata

[limber tulip]

17/18 spool fragments and i got them all 7 months ago... finding this last one is gonna suck

[mental snow]

Which one?

[quartz cave]

Wait arent those two made by the same company

[heady iron]

so reddit chungus

[quartz cave]

Are they competing for goty on themselves

[old compass]

new time record, making progress

[scenic yoke]

LOOK AT THIS FUCKING SHIT MAN

I AM GRAZING THE GOD DAMN LEDGE

[ornate perch]

Guys which crest should I use to no hit lost lace, hunter, wanderer or reaper?

[mental snow]

Heal mid-dash, not after the flip, before the flip

There's more momentum

[scenic yoke]

... FUCK

[old compass]

hunter, and also don't forget to use clawline. Are you doing needle only no tools as well?

[ornate perch]

No red tools only

[old compass]

oh

[mental snow]

Man I wish the regenerating Shard thing wasn't Steel Soul exclusive

[old compass]

use shaman

[ornate perch]

Ok

[brave geyser]

True it feels pretty useless there too

[exotic dome]

they will add growstone in steel city dlc trust

[mental snow]

I was talking about the fact that Red Tool challenges are pretty limited for people who can't mod

[ornate perch]

Which tools and skills should I use

[exotic dome]

sharpdart

[mental snow]

It's either shard farming or relying on the Crawbell

[brave geyser]

i was talking about how growstone is pretty useless for steel soul since, yknow. You don't die. You use less red tools than normal.

[scenic yoke]

THE LEDGE COLLIDED AGAINST ME DEAD CENTER OF HORNET

WHAT THE FUCKKKKKK

[mental snow]

....those two have no correlation

You still use Red Tools, dying has nothing to do with it

Shell Shards are used for Red Tools

[exotic dome]

this made me realize they will probably add some shop in sea of sorrow, i will farm some rosaries in my full save file

[ornate perch]

It’s more of a QoL tool

[opaque sigil]

the thing that'll completely empty your pockets of shell shards typically is dying a lot to bosses

[brave geyser]

The issue with red tools is that people run out of shards quickly with each attempt

[ornate perch]

Tbh I don’t use red tools because I forget about their existence

[brave geyser]

sure you can still run out even on steel soul but that's not nearly as much as the random architect user trying his absolute hardest to kill savage beastfly 2 and SOMEHOW failing

[mental snow]

Well I was mainly talking about Lost Lace challenges using Red Tools because... well, the lack of readily available Shell Shards after you run out of reserve bundles and such.

[brave geyser]

Honestly just remove the shell shard cap

[mental snow]

Fun fact: Can't mod

[brave geyser]

Feel ya

[mental snow]

I mean shit if I could mod, I wouldn't have even brought any of this up lol

[brave geyser]

i mean in general though they really should remove it

or even double it or smth just 800 is not doing shit

[mental snow]

Deadass dude, the cap is so shit

[ornate perch]

I agree

[exotic dome]

if you are a tool user and run out of shards during lost lace fight you have to climb back from abyss and farm rosaries

[opaque sigil]

yes that does really suck

[ornate perch]

Or make shell satchel double your shard capacity asw

[mental snow]

I have over 2K Rosaries, and I'm not spending a single dime on Shard bundles. I'm waiting for SoS shops.

[brave geyser]

I see why people recommend shamman for lost lace

[brave geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-agreement-nod-agree-ishowspeed-gif-9135221508835408494

I would say make shell satchel available for both modes but that'd probably be a bit broken in a way no?

[exotic dome]

shell satchel increases your red tool capacity, it doesnt effect shard costs iirc

[brave geyser]

Ik i mean the red tool parts specifically

[errant bone]

38/52 achievements

Really wonder if I should get 52/52

[scenic yoke]

WHY AM I NOT GRABBING THE LEDGE WHEN I'M LITERALLY COLLIDING AGAINST IT?

[brave geyser]

Only like 50 highkey

Hunter's journal is so boring

[scenic yoke]

I FUCKING DID ITTTTTTT

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[brave geyser]

Ggs

[cerulean sable]

ggs

[cerulean sable]

simply lock the fuck in

for real i never used tools that much outside of arenas and traversal

i had this thing in my head that goes "if i cant beat this without tools then i havent beaten it truely at all", and often i would usually use tools only to clear arena fights asap, or if theres this cunt that i really want dead during exploration

[old compass]

the red tools thing happened with me at seth

I was like FINE TC I'LL BEAT SETH FAIR AND SQUARE

and then I beat him immediately without red tools lmao

[wind mulch]

abolish shards

[cerulean sable]

im in the camp that

id be willing to go with a hybrid

every tool has a set amount of a "replenishable" amount on bench rest, but you can get additional stuff from general traversal

hell you can also do it with the current system or wtv

where you always have a base amount of free tools

then the additional needs repair

[cerulean sable]

so on bench rest you always get say, 3 free straight pins but the additional 7 is gained from basic combat

[cerulean sable]

some shit like that

[exotic dome]

i doubt they will add something like this but it's needed

[wind mulch]

i just dont really see the point in having them tied to a farmable resource to begin with

by its nature ur only ever really gonna need to engage in the farming and such if ur struggling with a boss

[scenic yoke]

Okay so sharpdart is DEFINETLY helpful against last judge

[wind mulch]

so why interrupt the flow of the game like that

[wild holly]

faydown cloak is peak

[scenic yoke]

I was able to get them to 1/3 of their max HP which... is better than my other attempts

[cerulean sable]

theres a discussion point that i often see that, without needing to revamp the entire system, the easiest hot fix is to make arena fights drop shards

[scenic yoke]

Insert defeat montague here

[exotic dome]

this method is good

[exotic dome]

yeah they should drop rosaries too, and decrease the cost of tools

would it be too op if they decrease the tool costs

[golden crater]

this just in

team cherry confirmed that the ''moose man'' will be a new boss in sea of sorrow

[midnight dew]

Can someone tell me what shell shards even do 😭

[scenic yoke]

I would love it if maps were reasonably priced (T^T)

[golden crater]

no further context was given

[scenic yoke]

whatdafuk

[golden crater]

they are for tools

[midnight dew]

Oh

I js got the game today so

[exotic dome]

it replenishes your tools

[midnight dew]

Kk

[golden crater]

if you use a red tool your amount of shards will decrease when you refill the tool

[scenic yoke]

Upon using a tool, going to a bench allows you to replenish your tool supply at the cost of shards

[golden crater]

you refill the tool by sitting at a bench

[midnight dew]

Ohh kk ty

[neat remnant]

I do hope they'll increase shards capacity soon
800 max is nowhere near enough.

[scenic yoke]

Gn everyone, I'm heading to bed since its almost 11:40 PM over here

[golden crater]

you can also sacrifice a certain amount of shell shards at the sherma shrine in act 3 to unlock the secret moose man fight

but thats later in the game

you dont have to worry about it rn

[scenic yoke]

You actually use the tools?

[old compass]

you...don't use the tools?

[golden crater]

..you dont...?

[scenic yoke]

Not really...

[golden crater]

they help a lot

[scenic yoke]

There are rare occasions where I do

I only got the kunai one and the long pin... and then theres the flea brew

[trim estuary]

Shell Shards are annoying and all but like come on guys the main issue with tools is the control scheme

[neat remnant]

Flintslate, mostly
But even that runs out shards frequently

Not that it matters tho i use mods for convenience

[scenic yoke]

I enjoy the experience mod free

[gray grotto]

is silksong harder than hollow knight?

[scenic yoke]

YES

[neat remnant]

I uhhh need money, so i play mods

[scenic yoke]

Please play hollow knight first or silksong will swallow you WHOLE

[gray grotto]

so, i played like 2 hours of hk on xbox gamepass

[trim estuary]

You can make it harder, but no, it’s easier

[neat remnant]

Silksong is actually an okay game to play before hk

The problem is that once you play ss first, playing hollow knight will feel more boring in the beginning.

[scenic yoke]

... Alright, which flowers do you wish to be at your funeral?

[gray grotto]

i beat act 2

[trim estuary]

That’s fair 🥱 boring ahh game

[scenic yoke]

MOTHER FUCKER HOW?

[gray grotto]

i made a bet with someone that i can beat lost lace in <25 atts

groal is the only boss i have genuinely struggled on

[scenic yoke]

Well from what I've heard I think thats literally everyone

[gray grotto]

widow took a decent amount of attempts

but otherwise I've done good

[scenic yoke]

Good fight tho

And her theme is just peak

[gray grotto]

like, i have to cheese groal

but im not cheesing anything else

[brittle totem]

grand mommy silk is so easy

even preabortion witch crest against grand mommy silk is still easy af

[gray grotto]

yes lol

it took me 2 tries with no prior knowledge

[old compass]

you did have prior knowledge though

[gray grotto]

minimal

i only knew she threw pins

[old compass]

no I mean, foruth chorus, first sinner

[gray grotto]

i didn't fight first sinner

[old compass]

oh

[brittle totem]

yall didn't skip 4th chorus?

[old compass]

first playthrough, how would i know

[gray grotto]

hell nah, that boss was so fun

[brittle totem]

yeah ofc but before beating forth chorus i wanted to see if theres a skip, i figured i could just go back to the fight, i tried over and over and eventually found a skip, and then i genuinely couldn't get back to the fight, i came back and fought it in act 3 cuz i kinda forgot abt forth chorus

forth chorus barely survives shaman crest mag dump

[neat remnant]

Wow its almost like its only an Act 1 boss or something

[patent heath]

Fourth Chorus barely survives literally any progression past float.

[odd hull]

Fourth Chorus barely survives.

[exotic dome]

fourth chorus has 0.65x dmg modifier for needle lvl 2-3-4 and that tells everything

[patent heath]

There used to be a time when I could do the Fourth Chorus skip consistently.

But I haven't played SS in a long time.

[neat remnant]

There used to be a time when fourth chorus was a hard boss

And that time was during game development

[timid sky]

I died 20 times to fourth chorus on my first playthrough

I'm a master

[patent heath]

I died six times and that was because I didn't realise that Fourth Chorus is meant to be a tutorial in using float during combat.

So I just never used it.

When I did, it was first try.

[timid sky]

I knew to use float from my first attempt i don't even remember what caused me to die so much

One thing i didn't know is that you could hit the rock, i just used the air vents as a safe space

[brittle totem]

Grand chorus; architect edition

[gray grotto]

fourth chorus could've been such a difficult, but cool boss

[ancient mortar]

Fifth chorus when

[odd marsh]

i killed fourth chorus withought using float 😭

in like 2 attempts it was such a long fight

[odd marsh]

just use wanderers crest with injector band and multibinder and just let groal eat you, tank 2 hits to get 4-5 hits in his mouth, d it again and then heal once for 4 hp and then repeat, easy

[old compass]

there's a more efficient way

use the speedrun tech and spam tools

you do need to visit coral towers though

[gray grotto]

orrrrr

cheese it

because groal is a valid boss to cheese

[old compass]

isn't tool spam technically also cheese

[visual river]

hey guys, I'm about to finish act 2, should I try to find all fleas before finishing it? or can I still find them in act 3?

[onyx python]

spent 1 hour learning 0,00001% of the basics of CMD so that i could edit bs but it was worth it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421244078452113490/1484487736919588925/security.gif

[knotty girder]

you cant get to act 3 without all fleas im pretty sure

nvm

you can get the rest in act 3

[visual river]

thanks!

[visual musk]

i feel like im the only one who fought the forebrothers and the farfields beastfly without magma bell

[old compass]

no there has definitly been a lot of people who did hitless on those bosses

[mental snow]

I need to play safer man, holy shit.

I almost just lost to Moorwing. Fucking Moorwing. Of all bosses.

[odd hull]

Nah

[visual musk]

considering i didnt do it hitless

i honestly forget most tools exist when i most need them

[odd hull]

I got magma bell after beating the game

[exotic dome]

i got it and forgot to use it

[old compass]

does weighted belt increase my parry i frames

[serene mountain]

so im starting silksong soon after doing 112% and p5 in hollow knight, any tips?

like what mechanics are different and stuff like that

[old compass]

don't spoil yourself and remember to use clawline

[knotty girder]

the biggest difference for me in silksong was the movement

very different movement but it feels so much nicer than hollow knight movement

[old compass]

the maps also complements the movement

the story is all going up but the map has a lot of open spaces to run around

horizontally

[quartz cave]

oh my god

hes gonna propose to whitaker isnt he

[old compass]

ismoil I get you're a long time mod but like

[quartz cave]

HE DOES

[quartz cave]

but what

[old compass]

but this isn't off topic

[quartz cave]

this is silksong discussion which is basically offtopic half the time

its not cause im a mod, literally every day you see people around talking about mio or ninesols or whatever else

its basically hk gen 2 but with a focus on silksong, which is practically what hk disc is, the same but with the first game

[tawdry socket]

When does Seth arrive in fleatopia? Is it after you defeat nyleth?

[old compass]

yeah

[quartz cave]

after you meet him in shellwood

[knotty girder]

you need to talk to him 2 times, one in shellwood and one in greymoor

[old compass]

and you meet him in a bunch of places

[mental snow]

Do not set the game to 200% brightness. That shit's saturated as hell.

[quartz cave]

chat i am scared to fail the proposal minigame

[knotty girder]

greymoor first

[quartz cave]

set it to 500% instead dont be scared

[mental snow]

I wish I could tbh lol

[visual river]

OK, I just defeated ||Grand Mother Silk and got the binding her power ending, can you guys give me a small spoilers-free guide on how to get the other endings?||

[tawdry socket]

Is the one in shellwood the battle

[quartz cave]

you know what just remove that part of your monitor that actually shows the screen

so its just a blinding white light

[queen acorn]

spoiler frees gonna bekinda hard

[quartz cave]

if youre looking for spoiler free yeah this aint the channel for ya

[mental snow]

Did you pick up a child?

[tawdry socket]

Im like 95 percent sure that spoilers are allowed in this channel

[queen acorn]

sup jackson

[quartz cave]

#sk-help does have the dont spoil people rule but just in case hammer that point home

[knotty girder]

its like on the bottom path of shellwood, also i think he also appears at grand gate maybe (i forgot)

[visual river]

oh ok haha, so do I like just, not bind her power to get to act 3?

[queen acorn]

i mean

idk how to say it spoiler free dude

[tawdry socket]

Do u have the option to do smth else?

[mental snow]

Hey was there a patch to make the first two crumbling bell walls to Widow need 2 hits instead of 3?

Because that just happened for some reason

[knotty girder]

you have to complete the wishboards to get to act 3 (and some other stuff)

[visual river]

didn't pay attention ngl haha, I just smashed the bind button, I don't know if need to do something else

[queen acorn]

there is ONE more ending seperate of act 3

but your ability to do it is dependant on one thing

[tawdry socket]

Just explore the game for a bit. You'll find the other ending soon enough

[visual river]

I know about that one, I'm totally not brave enough try it

[quartz cave]

WHY IS HE THINKING ABOUT HOUSE WHILE PROPOSING

[tawdry socket]

I know this sounds obvious as fuck but this is the only way i can really say it without spoiling

[visual river]

aight, thanks for the help again!

[queen acorn]

if you dont then you cant do it ever so might as well give it a try

[quartz cave]

THEY GOT MARRIED

[queen acorn]

YESS

[mental snow]

Okay, did they make Widow slower? I swear she was faster than this

[quartz cave]

What a honeymoon man 🥹

[knotty girder]

im sad i missed garmond and shakra jounal entry on my main save 😔

[quartz cave]

WHY ARE THEY DRESSED LIKE SHEEP

[mental snow]

shep

[tawdry socket]

fa li du la si ma net

[quartz cave]

omg they gave me a koala plushie

[mental snow]

Fun fact: Your Mii can become a bit too "aware" and say stuff like "you don't really want to talk with me, do you? just leave me alone".

[quartz cave]

lmao what

[mental snow]

I'm serious

[quartz cave]

i need to do that to someone chat who should it be

[tight viper]

Hi serious

[mental snow]

I don't really know how it works though. Probably just gotta starve a Mii of attention for a while.

[quartz cave]

ive also been starving them all

out of laziness but i have

market pliers called for me so sad saying please give me ANYTHING to eat so i gave him an amongcola

[lean yoke]

I'm so good at this game I've been stuck at Karmelita for a week 😍 sometimes I wonder how the fuck I even got to act 3 in the first place 🤦‍♂️

I keep dying to the big ants ❤️

[teal ridge]

You can do it

[teal ridge]

Markiplier?

[knotty girder]

when shes gonna do an attack she will try hit u try dodge it

[lean yoke]

Shit that's genius

[knotty girder]

pogoing her also damages her

[lean yoke]

Actually maybe that's ironically the problem

I keep trying to parry her because me ego says I can do anything 😍

[knotty girder]

its hard to give tips on her tbh

[lean yoke]

Im too aggressive for my own good

[knotty girder]

i would say pogo each time she does her spin or normal attack but i think thats obvious

[lean yoke]

Her spin attack is really easy to parry

[old compass]

here I'll show you how to deal with them

[knotty girder]

i have a save where i can replay any act 3 boss i want, i just unlocked all the bosses and then got sylph song so i can revert save to redo

[teal ridge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dancing-dance-omD--k01KQ43B1K97S71M8PZDMQE53JA

[old compass]

I can help with showing you how to parry too

you need to use up slash or else you get knocked away

[knotty girder]

how do i get image perms

[old compass]

talk 300 times

[knotty girder]

alr

[knotty girder]

wanted to show a vid of how i beat them 😭

[old compass]

lol

[knotty girder]

i want a silksong godhome so bad

i can no hit lost lace

[old compass]

same

[knotty girder]

do u think they will do a harder version of grand mother silk or lost lace for godhome

i mean which one do u think

[mortal bluff]

Hollow knight = weird and wonderful
Silksong = crushing and grand

[quartz cave]

isnt he so real

[mortal bluff]

Rank the robot bosses yo!

[knotty girder]

1 cogwork dancers
2 second sentinel
3 fourth chorus

[mortal bluff]

I would agree actually. Wish chorus could be an S tier boss lol

[knotty girder]

fourth chorus is so cool tho, i didnt expect to see him so early in the game

[winged lily]

All 3 are goated tbh

[untold wyvern]

Is it just me or does the passing of the ages tablet have the same sound as all the lore tablets in hollow knight

[light swan]

secsen dancers chorus

[graceful oyster]

I may have to call it quits for now but I got within a few seconds of jless bless F&N WR

So close and yet so far

[mortal bluff]

Second sentinel is kinda glitchy with its air attacks on the left side, and has no change ups, so I would put them below dancers

[graceful oyster]

So much rng

[mortal bluff]

Only downside of dancers in when they rarely stand on top of one another and you lose who is who

[knotty girder]

i found second sentinel such a fun fight

[mortal bluff]

They are super fun. Just a bit to easy in my opinion

They are post Memorium and drop an excellent tool, so they should be quite the challenge.

[quartz cave]

trans annabeth confirmed???

[mortal bluff]

I do like that second sentinel steals Seth’s winding slash, laces parry, and the pinstress cross slash

[knotty girder]

when i was attempting the speedrun achievements, i got the normal one in 2h 40m and 41s and the 100% one in 13h 47m 13s in my first attempts

[mortal bluff]

Excellent work lol

[knotty girder]

i just used my 2h 40m save for 100% speedrun

[knotty girder]

ty

[willow loom]

Silksong has awesome ships.
Skedaddles.

[mortal bluff]

And it’ll have EVEN MORE awesome ships after sea of sorrow comes out!!

[knotty girder]

i need sea of sorrow

[mortal bluff]

I need more Silksong. I’m greedy

[knotty girder]

how much % do u think sea of sorrow will add

[mortal bluff]

Wish I could be a king of old and commission TC to make Silksong like 6 times larger lol

[mortal bluff]

Hmmm good question. Well since Silksong ties percent to items we can’t know for sure quite the scope of additional content

However we can get a good minimum

[knotty girder]

im thinking like 4%

[mortal bluff]

I believe it says it adds a crest and tools, so I would agree on 4-5%

[odd hull]

1. Second Sentinel
   The rest is kinda whatever

[knotty girder]

dang cogwork dancers does not deserve that

[mortal bluff]

He’s good. The dancers are literally art tho lol, do you not like em?

[lavish apex]

dancers are easy but they're also cinema

and still pretty fun

[mortal bluff]

Clover dancers should be harder or have another phase in my opinion. I way prefer Cogwork dancers

Like the tempo for clover dancers is identical to Cogwork phase 2 and 3 so like, why even have a late game refight like that lol. The tornado spin is literally the only clover dancer threat

[brisk parcel]

cogwork dancers were lowk harder

[exotic dome]

the image already ranked them

[odd hull]

Dancers are kinda eh for me. Final phase is cool tho

[gray grotto]

eerrrmmm

and who are you

[mortal bluff]

I just love every aspect, music is top notch, design is top notch, it’s a bit easy, but it’s very well done combat wise

[light swan]

they’re my personal favorite fight throughout both games

[mortal bluff]

Agreed, which is sad. Silksong actually seems to have that issue, which never happened in HK. First sinner and clover dancers are easier than widow and Cogwork dancers.

[light swan]

wdym by changeups?

[mortal bluff]

Like a new move added halfway or a second phase or rally

[light swan]

like, variations? I don’t think they’re necessary

a second phase isn’t needed if the first phase is perfect imo

[mortal bluff]

They def aren’t. But they add variety throughout the breath of the fight. Take for example one of my fav simple bosses, Hive Knight, he starts out with two attacks and gains more as the fight continues. I do think the fight is better for not starting with all 4

[light swan]

karmelita for example gains 1 attack as the fight goes on, as well as a bit of variations in her curvesivkles, but if she started with those variations I would not mind either

[knotty girder]

groveller sucks

[gray grotto]

you stink

[light swan]

that just means she’s better for longer

[gray grotto]

lace sucks

[light swan]

although I do get what you mean

[knotty girder]

no

lace is the best bosses

[gray grotto]

trobbio better

[light swan]

the fight not having progression is never really smth I thought about

[knotty girder]

red trobbio is mid

[gray grotto]

it's a fun fight nonetheless

[mortal bluff]

Lace goated

[knotty girder]

yes

[gray grotto]

trobbio > lace

[knotty girder]

lace 2 and lost lace is peak

[mortal bluff]

Honestly yes. The Silksong I built in my head for the 7 years leading up to release is real when lace is on screen lol

[knotty girder]

lace 2 is my favourite boss arena

[brisk parcel]

i dont like lost lace that much lace 2 was better

[mortal bluff]

Hmmmm, let me think on best boss arena

[gray grotto]

lace 1 is better imo

[mortal bluff]

Lace 2 is def higher

[brisk parcel]

markoth

[knotty girder]

arena or fight?

[gray grotto]

arena

lace 2 fight is way better

[odd hull]

I'd comment more but I realized my tone was too mean. Anyways, they don't have enough presence, almost don't feel like a fight and their moves aren't particularly interesting.

[knotty girder]

lace 2 arena is such a nice aesthetic

[mortal bluff]

I prefer them equally. LL is interesting, because it’s excellent in almost every capacity, but lacks final boss vibes in some senses. Give us one more monsterous attack and I think it gets there

[gray grotto]

the trobbio arena is lame

but his fight makes up for it

[knotty girder]

if u think about it, lost lace has such a cool arena if yk what it actually is

[mortal bluff]

I can see that. But if anything should be soulless it’s the robots lol

[gray grotto]

what is it actually

[mortal bluff]

I like his little city diorama

[brisk parcel]

its just trying to be quirky not that good its like "woohoo you didnt see my attack coming did youuu" and also the teleport tentacle attack is longer than the multiple tentacle attack

[knotty girder]

grand mother silk created a giant silk ball to keep lost lace in or something like that

idk how if she appears outside tho

[gray grotto]

so the thing gm silk is in when you challenge her in terminus?

[knotty girder]

ye like that

[hoary cliff]

her location is at the cradle

[odd hull]

I mean, if you say so.

[brisk parcel]

it was probably made before by weavers to test void

[gray grotto]

that is a top 3 room in the entire game

it is so beautiful

[knotty girder]

actually

one of the coolest places has got to be red memory

[gray grotto]

i have no idea what that is

[hoary cliff]

no I think grand mother silk was holding it up to protect lace and it fell apart and void started leaking when gms gave up

[knotty girder]

we lowkey need a vespa fight in silksongs godhome

[knotty girder]

u wouldnt rlly understand it cuz u didnt play first hk

[odd hull]

I was checking some dancers footage. Man, this is funny, TC definitely didn't want you to lose

[gray grotto]

wellll i did

[brisk parcel]

either way

[gray grotto]

for like 5 hours, only in cross roads

[knotty girder]

is that from your first playthrougj

[mortal bluff]

This is genuinely on the top of my wants.

If the Vespa boss is scrapped we riot

[odd hull]

Nah, found on yt.

[hoary cliff]

wait is there even gonna be a silksong god home????

[knotty girder]

most likely

[mortal bluff]

It’s sorta confirmed

[hoary cliff]

I really hope that's true

[fossil kayak]

how do I download levels with the silksong architect mod?

[mortal bluff]

In an interview they noted it was something they knew we wanted

[brisk parcel]

i died a lot to the underworks arena that leads up to choral chambers

[odd hull]

I lost all my video files, sadly

[hoary cliff]

guys is it just me or was the conductors melody gauntlet was really easy

[knotty girder]

i did it first try on my first playthrough 😭

[hoary cliff]

Sammeeee

[mortal bluff]

Depends on gear. Going for the speedrun achievement may change your mind, or may not lol

[brisk parcel]

yeah only the last wave was hard

[hoary cliff]

nope

tacks does the job

[brisk parcel]

maestro wave????

[mortal bluff]

Double maestros beg to differ

[brisk parcel]

i dont think i ever used red tools in that arena before

[gray grotto]

fish react if groal is the best boss

[odd hull]

Nah, it was hell

[hoary cliff]

red tools are literally the key to gauntlets

[knotty girder]

just keep them both on 1 side then its like just fighting 1 with double attacks

[hoary cliff]

groal was super easy too all I did was just spam curve claw and cog flys with poison

[knotty girder]

thread storm for me

[gray grotto]

he still sucks no matter how hard you spam

nothing but a fat frog

[odd hull]

Ah, you're using red tools

[devout dawn]

I cant even get there, everytime i try to do the platforming thesr enemys keep hitting me off

[hoary cliff]

Yeah but he died so quickly

[knotty girder]

the only red tool i rlly use is flintslate

[brisk parcel]

only time i used red tools in a fight was i think lost lace i did purple cogfly since i heard everyone glazing it it did help a little lost lace has too big of a health pool

[hoary cliff]

I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly there was a bench right next to the gauntlet

[hoary cliff]

I couldn't use tools bec I had 0 shards

[devout dawn]

Ye i cant get up there

[gray grotto]

delvers drill is kinda goated

[devout dawn]

These girrafw looking enemys kill me

[brisk parcel]

noob

[brisk parcel]

or sawtooth circlet

[mortal bluff]

Can we all agree day one Silksong was peak fiction?

[knotty girder]

i love sawtooth circlet

so op on flying enemies and big enemies

[knotty girder]

yes

[brisk parcel]

me too

[hoary cliff]

I still don't know how to use it

[brisk parcel]

what crest do you guys mainly use

[odd hull]

being able to buy it like only 4h after release was funny

[hoary cliff]

reaper

[knotty girder]

hunter

[gray grotto]

😳

[hoary cliff]

it's op has a huge range

[odd hull]

Hunter. Didn't use any other I think

[knotty girder]

how is it op tho

[gray grotto]

hunter and wanderer are good

[knotty girder]

its slow with no extra damage

[brisk parcel]

i can respect that

[knotty girder]

i never took it off

[hoary cliff]

huge range makes it op

[knotty girder]

bad dps tho

i was so surprised when i found out reaper does no extra damage

[brisk parcel]

i used it on lost lace and bell eater i think other than that i also used it for early game bosses up until cogwork dancers

i main wanderer i have no skill

[odd hull]

Yeah, it's strange. Just like wanderer feels like it should do less damage

[brisk parcel]

how do you spam pogo

[hoary cliff]

my ranking of crests is
1- reaper
2- shaman
3- wanderer
4-hunter
5- witch
6-architect
7- beast

[hoary cliff]

really easy to do so

[gray grotto]

hunter 4!??

[knotty girder]

wanderer doesnt?

[mortal bluff]

Is this fun rank or power rank?

[hoary cliff]

power

[mortal bluff]

Ragebait lol

[hoary cliff]

no??

[gray grotto]

hunter is atleast 2 or 3

at LEAST

[hoary cliff]

i hate it's down pogo

[brisk parcel]

for power its hunter first thn beast then wanderer then shaman

[hoary cliff]

I suck with ut

i

[odd hull]

No. All of them share the same damage iirc

[knotty girder]

my ranking is
1- hunter
2- reaper
2- wanderer
2- beast
2- witch
2- architect
2- shaman

[mortal bluff]

architect is also broken lol. Sooo powerful

[hoary cliff]

wanderer does it faster

[hoary cliff]

the attacks suck

[odd hull]

1 - Witch
2 - Hunter

7 - Cursed
8 - Wanderer & Architect

[gray grotto]

THIS is ragebait

[odd hull]

Nuh uh

[mortal bluff]

Yes, and I don’t like using it, but if it’s based off of power architect is one or two

[knotty girder]

i wonder who actually mains shaman

[mortal bluff]

Tool spam is broken, and the free lifeblood infection makes you nearly unlikable

[hoary cliff]

Architect is only useful for wasting ur shards I mean I did use it in karmelita and crust king khann bosses

[hoary cliff]

me sometimes

[brisk parcel]

my ranking is
1-wanderer
2-hunter
3-cloakless
4-cursed
5-reaper
6-witch
7-architect
8-beast
9-shaman

[gray grotto]

harold

[hoary cliff]

I beated lost lace with it

[brisk parcel]

crest selector mod users

[knotty girder]

i beat lost lace with every crest

im actually a lost lace sweat

[odd hull]

True, cloakless exist. I would put it higher than wanderer and architect, probably

[hoary cliff]

I did reaper wanderer shaman and witch

[gray grotto]

so am i

[knotty girder]

really

[gray grotto]

yep

[brisk parcel]

i beat it with hunter and wanderer i would do more if the ending cutscene didnt take 10 years

[knotty girder]

just quit to menu after beating her

[brisk parcel]

no im gonna keep complaining

[knotty girder]

ok

[hoary cliff]

I got passing of the age too

[knotty girder]

excuse to not do it

[odd hull]

Yeah

[brisk parcel]

does anyone else rank the people in the credits scene

[knotty girder]

no 😭

[mortal bluff]

Hitless lost lace had me stressin’ lol, it’s SUCH a long fight

[mortal bluff]

1. Seth Goldman

[brisk parcel]

no fun i hate having fun

[knotty girder]

i did it 😎

[odd hull]

1. Trobbio by Trobbio

[mortal bluff]

It’s a fun hitless, but once phase three starts you’re like, damn, not even halfway

[hoary cliff]

Seth bossfight was so cool

[knotty girder]

when ive done her like 20 times ik all the best ways to hit her after and during each attack

[brisk parcel]

i dont rank them like that i usually say oh hornet i like her oh lace i hope she dies oh seth i like him

[knotty girder]

why lace

[odd hull]

Indeed

[brisk parcel]

shes annoying you need to whoop her 3 times for her to respect you at least with the first game hornet felt cool and didnt insult my precious feelings

[knotty girder]

i glaze the lace fights

[exotic dome]

hornet was cool in hk i wish she had her own game

[knotty girder]

imagine if lace gets her own game

[mortal bluff]

Hornet was so cool in hk I wish we could fight her as a boss in Silksong

[knotty girder]

alr i reached 300 messages where are my image perms

[brisk parcel]

i wish for the third game to be in hollow knight universe just not in line with any other games and is independent (if it comes out)

[mortal bluff]

Could be cool. Completely new kingdom, completely new characters

[brisk parcel]

no void or anything

[mortal bluff]

I would actually enjoy it if the abyss showed up in every hollowknight game, it doesn’t need story relevance necessarily, it’s already a fact to exist below every kingdom

It could be the through line of em all

[tight viper]

I main it every day

[brisk parcel]

yeah i guess that part is necessary but i would actually like it if the third game was in an alive thriving kingdom instead of dead or falling

[tight viper]

Shaman is love, shaman is life

[brisk parcel]

do you need to rush act 3 everyday

[knotty girder]

i hate the unravelled

[mortal bluff]

I agree.

[tight viper]

I just play with the Pantheon of Pharloom mod

[brisk parcel]

pantheon 2 is ruined by shakra

i hate her bossfight

[tight viper]

Shakra is peak

[wraith sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silk-song-hollow-knight-lyrics-music-gif-103910113041076620

[mortal bluff]

I almost think Silksong took this approach until 2022 when they grimed up the citadel and killed all the lush biomes

[knotty girder]

same

im so bad at seth and shakra

[wraith sandal]

no perms😭

[brisk parcel]

she also gets health boosted in the pantheon

[mortal bluff]

Might be the grass is greener effect, but 2021 Pharloom might be cooler than 2025 lol

[brisk parcel]

i dont even get mad by the double damage in shakra she throws the rings so fast i dont even time to react thats the worst part

[knotty girder]

fr

cant dodge the rings at all

[tight viper]

Parry em, that’s your best bet

[brisk parcel]

and also you dont even get a reward or a memento just an option to fight her shitty bossfight again

[winged lily]

Do I need to do the kill n enemies to get hunters momento?

[mortal bluff]

At least it exist, team cherry just added it for fun

[brisk parcel]

flea bounce minigame was harder than karmelita

[winged lily]

Also is 231 max for regular save?

[brisk parcel]

the one where you jug them

[mortal bluff]

Juggle harder

[tight viper]

Max is 237 iirc

[winged lily]

Huh

[brisk parcel]

yeah i meant the jug one im just stupid

[winged lily]

Tf am missing

[knotty girder]

dude i found dodge so much harder

[median fractal]

The problem is that I think Hollow Knight worlds get their vibe from their dying melancholic kingdoms.

Also both games use this excuse for enemies attacking you.

[tall surge]

cant believe hornet was trained by this thing

[tight viper]

Maybe some optional things

[knotty girder]

you can just hit the fleas each to 1 side in juggle

[brisk parcel]

what about like a tyrant kingdom that attacks everyone????

[winged lily]

I have muckmaggots sand carvers the bigger muckmaggots, everything i can think of

[tight viper]

Garmond, Shakra, Palestag, Flintbeetles, etc

[winged lily]

Act 3, can't get garmond or shakra

[mortal bluff]

Or you are the villain and are fighting a good kingdom

[winged lily]

Shouldn't be required for hunter's momento

[tight viper]

They aren’t

[rich pagoda]

I Killed Savage Beastfly 2.0
Turns out he's really weak to curveclaw and the enemies die to sharpdart

[median fractal]

= uncivilized = barely any real kingdom + likely no real culture or anything

= uninteresting.

[brisk parcel]

garmond shakra and palestag isnt neccessary i think

[tight viper]

There’s a handful of optional entries for the journal, ones that don’t matter for the memento

[tired flume]

Greetings guys what are your hobbies?

[rich pagoda]

I knit. Usually make socks

[winged lily]

Got palestag tho

[median fractal]

The kingdoms were both dying when in the thrall of a higher/pale being that threatened its society

And thefore the goal of both games was to take down that god

[rich pagoda]

I love using curveclaw and seeing it chase a boss so perfectly sometimes

[brisk parcel]

what about empireee???? not kingdom empiree:???? the empire needs you

[median fractal]

Am I dumb what is the difference

[rich pagoda]

It's beautiful
Lugioli is also weak to curveclaw

[median fractal]

I dont really know.

[brisk parcel]

empire = emperor= conqueror= bad kingdom

[winged lily]

Honestly conch cutter is just easier curve claw

Both good

[median fractal]

Isnt that just gonna lead to the same thing

[rich pagoda]

I don't have that yet but I have had a lot of success with curve claw

[mortal bluff]

What do we think the odds are of a Grimm troupe dlc yall

[median fractal]

4%

[mortal bluff]

Real

[median fractal]

Sorry but that is unoriginal

[winged lily]

You have clawline?

[brisk parcel]

bad kingdom equal sign with a line crossing dying kingdom

[median fractal]

I kinda wnana see it but no

UNLESS

[rich pagoda]

Yes
I know that I could go get it

I've been busy grabbing other stuff

[brisk parcel]

grimm dead

[winged lily]

Go to where pinstress is

[winged lily]

Go up

[median fractal]

They make it so the Grimm Troupe evolves into a different thing with each cycle of a grimmchild growing up or something

And we meet the next evolution of that

[mortal bluff]

Not grimm jr tho

[mortal bluff]

This is what I want

[rich pagoda]

I do like collecting red tools
In part because I find it satisfying to pick the right tools for a particular problem that I'm tackling

[median fractal]

However this also consequentially makes banishinf the grimm troupe not canon anymore

The other thing is more likely to be actually canon but still

[rich pagoda]

Maybe they get banished and leave to reappear elsewhere

[winged lily]

Conch cutter, plasmium phial and tacks is what carried me through act 2 and 3

[brisk parcel]

does the grimm child grown up called grimm man

[winged lily]

Groal 3rd or 2nd try with conch cutter

[median fractal]

If I know my grimm lore right banishing is stoppinf the ritual altogether. Unless I am wrong and its for Hallownest specifically

[rich pagoda]

I have plasmium and tacks
I do love tacks
I don't love plasmium because it's a bitch and a half to go refill it