idk who he is but he'd agree with me i feel it
#sk-discussion
onyx python
leaden delta
and also like felt more like an abyss
hybrid flare
what potato do you play on to lag with lost lace
onyx python
son how are you FPS dropping in hollow kniight
subtle lynx
idk who he is but he'd agree with me i feel it
Nah, he would defend lace and silksong over anything
hybrid flare
ye but he was a ragabaiter
subtle lynx
This game did not need void again
brisk parcel
son how are you FPS dropping in hollow kniight
pentium dual core intel hd graphics 8 gb ddr2 ram
hybrid flare
ragebaiter of the finest
subtle lynx
It has no correlation to what the story was going for
onyx python
pentium dual core intel hd graphics 8 gb ddr2 ram
you have virus in your pc
sharp slate
was it really rage bait if they believed what they were saying
brisk parcel
you have virus in your pc
i know i fixed it and its still ahh
exotic dome
it's the best possible final boss that you can have with a sloppy void act
hybrid flare
It has no correlation to what the story was going for
I mean it was the tool to break the shitty power tripping cycle
leaden delta
while I agree, I don’t actually mind the abyss being a sneak in the third act. I like the abyss being a sort of bedrock layer
onyx python
i know i fixed it and its still ahh
there is only one way, you must destroy your pc
or format it
hybrid flare
i think that void is fine but could've been handled better
light swan
do we have any ideas for void areas in lacelight
subtle lynx
I mean it was the tool to break the shitty power tripping cycle
Hornet was already doing that
wind mulch
themes and metaphors don't exist void is just evil black goo
hybrid flare
Hornet was already doing that
Yeah the void was the tool and it caused even a bigger calamity
light swan
i know theres gonna be a big ancient civilization city
sharp slate
while I agree, I don’t actually mind the abyss being a sneak in the third act. I...
so the everbloom can break through bedrock is what im hearing
brisk parcel
or format it
i did already and its still slow at least it got 30 fps in the first phase
hybrid flare
i know theres gonna be a big ancient civilization city
remnants
subtle lynx
Yeah the void was the tool and it caused even a bigger calamity
So again, the void was not needed
light swan
yea remnants of one, what else tho
exotic dome
do we have any ideas for void areas in lacelight
maybe void infection can spread to different areas after doing an important thing, like how crossroads turn infected
hybrid flare
yea remnants of one, what else tho
What if the poured void caved itself deeper into the land basically expanding the abyss and marking huge drops throughout the kingdom
onyx python
do we have any ideas for void areas in lacelight
make some area that's like sorrounded by liquid void but there's some super glass blocking it from invading it and destroying everything as if it was an aquarium yk what i mean?
hybrid flare
maybe void infection can spread to different areas after doing an important thin...
its not a void infection twin we aint doing that here
hybrid flare
So again, the void was not needed
Now its established as the thing that kills hbs
how else would gms be killed tbf
light swan
heres what i have rn
orange, dark blue, yellow-green, reddish-pink, turquioise, and half of blue will be in the void half
subtle lynx
how else would gms be killed tbf
Idk this is a fantasy bug game I'm sure they could have come with a million different things
light swan
i could have some containment/research facility for void
hybrid flare
Idk this is a fantasy bug game I'm sure they could have come with a million diff...
ye but creating too many new concepts makes the verse inconsistent and convoluted
exotic dome
its not a void infection twin we aint doing that here
arent some areas just voided
brisk parcel
it's the best possible final boss that you can have with a sloppy void act
i mean it was the only way but that doesnt make it necessarily good
light swan
turquoise is likely a battlefield
hybrid flare
arent some areas just voided
they're ravaged by it not really posessing people
subtle lynx
ye but creating too many new concepts makes the verse inconsistent and convolute...
Void makes the universe convoluted for no reason
onyx python
i did already and its still slow at least it got 30 fps in the first phase
open task manager while playing hollow knight
subtle lynx
What they had going with GMS and the citadel was cool, void and act 3 just drops all of that
hybrid flare
Void makes the universe convoluted for no reason
no not really lma
leaden delta
i could have some containment/research facility for void
mehhhhh. you caaaaaan but I like the concept of void being a sort of primordial force that isn’t contained
light swan
my idea for reddish-pink is another battlefield/wartorn castle belonging to lands serene that was lost to the void early in the war
leaden delta
Which ties back to the ancient civilization
light swan
mehhhhh. you caaaaaan but I like the concept of void being a sort of primordial ...
well. attempting to contain it
hybrid flare
What they had going with GMS and the citadel was cool, void and act 3 just drops...
the entire game sorta revolves around gms, the citadel meeting its ends symbolizes how the cycle has been broken
subtle lynx
no not really lma
Yes yes really lmao, we now have to go into our memory to get some flower that's suddenly relevant? Never mentioned?
exotic dome
they're ravaged by it not really posessing people
so it doesnt spread ok, i thought it was a spreading thing
brisk parcel
open task manager while playing hollow knight
idk bro its says cpu 91% on task manager without anything on but its good i think
leaden delta
well. attempting to contain it
yeah. I’m ok with this but only if it’s a very hidden area
like, wp type stuff yk
light swan
im just struggling on areas in the bottom right
leaden delta
hm
terse heart
My simming courier
hybrid flare
well. attempting to contain it
Make it like very primordial molds by the AC
onyx python
idk bro its says cpu 91% on task manager without anything on but its good i thin...
son there's something wrong, how is a 8 gb thingy already at 91% with nothing on 😭
light swan
should everything just be
The Abyss
subtle lynx
the entire game sorta revolves around gms, the citadel meeting its ends symboliz...
You could have ended the citadel without the need of void... Why are you just implying that in all of your arguments including void was the only way to resolve things lol
hybrid flare
also illu pick a direction on how the journey will go
light swan
but with subareas
brisk parcel
also whhat is void in the real world is it like dark matter or something
hybrid flare
You could have ended the citadel without the need of void... Why are you just im...
Im not saying it was like, needed, but its a solution to a problem that already exists within the verse
fiery burrow
team cherry had no new ideas 🥀
brisk parcel
son there's something wrong, how is a 8 gb thingy already at 91% with nothing on...
dont you ever call my laptop trash
hybrid flare
should everything just be
The Abyss
naw
show the effects of the stuff not js replicate it
subtle lynx
Im not saying it was like, needed, but its a solution to a problem that already ...
Silksong was intended to be played as a standalone game according to TC, so no, void did not exist in the universe
hybrid flare
Your map also looks like the journey will be circular
subtle lynx
Since the story is supposed to make sense on its own
onyx python
dont you ever call my laptop trash
wait i just noticed you mentioning "dual core"
terse heart
onyx python
as far as i know dual core is like super shit
light swan
heres what i have rn
orange, dark blue, yellow-green, reddish-pink, turquioise, ...
like @hybrid flare the dark blue area is just gonna be The Abyss
and im just gonna have it stretch all the way to the right as well
brisk parcel
i feel like silksong is just a sequel to hollow knight or something
fiery burrow
Guys what if we had another angry god lashing out and possessing everyone who also made her own group of bug and then we killed her with void again and made the void another way to possess bugs and lets bring back Lifeblood to possess even more bugs
brisk parcel
wait i just noticed you mentioning "dual core"
yes
onyx python
i feel like silksong is just a sequel to hollow knight or something
it is
hybrid flare
Silksong was intended to be played as a standalone game according to TC, so no, ...
??????, there are lots of concepts drawn out of hollow knight even if its a standalone game, having the void in there doesnt make it dependant on the 1st game
leaden delta
but with subareas
Yes
light swan
kind of like instead of The Citadel
its The Abyss
hybrid flare
like <@795403491320660018> the dark blue area is just gonna be The Abyss
and im ...
Make it filled with AC stuff and make one entrance a big ass drop
wind mulch
void was way more interesting in hk
hybrid flare
void in hk wasnt even threatening
onyx python
say on tung
on triple T
light swan
@hybrid flare here are paths for the first half
fiery burrow
void in hk wasnt even threatening
wasn't really meant to be yeah
brisk parcel
on triple T
dance to pay el respecto to triple t
light swan
obviously there will be ability locks and stuff but im not that far in yet
hybrid flare
wasn't really meant to be yeah
it was kinda
light swan
and theres other ways to enter the abyss too, theyre just more difficult kinda like the mist
wind mulch
it goes from a really interesting thematic tool to evil goo
hybrid flare
obviously there will be ability locks and stuff but im not that far in yet
What would the other areas be
fiery burrow
But it wasn't it was a source of hope and a way to free the kingdom
terse heart
<@795403491320660018> here are paths for the first half
vendrica
onyx python
void in hk wasnt even threatening
isn't it because void is chill when there isn't a living creature past 0,001 picometer of the safe distance
hybrid flare
it goes from a really interesting thematic tool to evil goo
The void in silksong sort of represents an anarchy i'd say
brisk parcel
what is this map
onyx python
dance to pay el respecto to triple t
dances
hybrid flare
isn't it because void is chill when there isn't a living creature past 0,001 pic...
the pk js grabbed it and took it as his own plasticine
exotic dome
heres what i have rn
orange, dark blue, yellow-green, reddish-pink, turquioise, ...
there could be another path thats only unlockable from green to orange area
also if the purple vertical long thing is an elevator you can extend the elevator to the abyss, but it's destroyed so you can only explore that part with a wall jump or something
brisk parcel
there could be another path thats only unlockable from green to orange area
also...
what is this map
exotic dome
what is this map
hollow knight lacelight
hybrid flare
Is the second half all void ravaged areas or is there more to it
brisk parcel
hollow knight lacelight
whats that
wind mulch
The void in silksong sort of represents an anarchy i'd say
its just anarchy for the sake of destruction though not actually anything meaningful
onyx python
also i'm still trying to think how is it acceptable that a big fat creature can store liquid void inside its stomach
like how are you not being killed by it how
hybrid flare
its just anarchy for the sake of destruction though not actually anything meanin...
Nope, the chaos that anarchy brings when doing a revolution
terse heart
can someone make a 3d bellhome
light swan
What would the other areas be
no idea, all i know is that the first area is Lightmarsh the pink area is White Floral Valley and the dark blue is The Abyss
also some vague ideas: red is Lands Serene city, turquoise is one of the massive battlefields, reddish pink is the first major castle of the Lands Serene to succumb to the void, the purple is similar to a bunch of cliffs
subtle lynx
??????, there are lots of concepts drawn out of hollow knight even if its a stan...
Why are we ignoring what I said?? You said void is a way to solve things without adding a new concept to make things convoluted, I said it wasn't the only way to solve things obviously, you said it came from HK so it's not new, I said you're supposed to be able to play this game without playing HK, meaning that void is actually a new thing, and you shift to implying that I'm saying this game is dependent on the new one?
hybrid flare
and the regrets that come and sacrifices need to be made
hybrid flare
Why are we ignoring what I said?? You said void is a way to solve things without...
ok silksong is shit because it uses concepts drawn from hk and its supposed to be a standolone game
hybrid flare
the whole power system is literally fucking soul
fiery burrow
But always, child, I remain a daughter of Hallownest. And the void below all things, that darkness I will fear no longer...
Its like painfully obvious they had no idea what they were doing thematically with the void
subtle lynx
This guy is insane
fiery burrow
Its not a story with anything to say
hybrid flare
you're making a nonsensical point twin
fiery burrow
the whole power system is literally fucking soul
Yeah uh that's kinda bad too?
onyx python
nahh nubbie is right whatever
fiery burrow
Silk is just reused soul its not interesting
brisk parcel
ok silksong is shit because it uses concepts drawn from hk and its supposed to b...
and it also has 0 replayability
hybrid flare
Yeah uh that's kinda bad too?
Not at all i'd say
fiery burrow
Song magic is basically nonexistent
subtle lynx
ok silksong is shit because it uses concepts drawn from hk and its supposed to b...
Yes dude, my whole argument when saying void is a bad addition is to tell you silksong is a shitty game jeez, idk what fallacy is this but it has to be a great example of one
fiery burrow
My cover
subtle lynx
> But always, child, I remain a daughter of Hallownest. And the void below all ...
Yeah hornet being afraid of void was never mentioned or implied ever besides on the gloom journal entry
hybrid flare
Yes dude, my whole argument when saying void is a bad addition is to tell you si...
That was a satirical statement and the void can work as a standalone concept
fiery burrow
Even the gloomsac journal entry doesn't even have her saying she's scared
exotic dome
do i almost feel fear
subtle lynx
That was a satirical statement and the void can work as a standalone concept
Idk if it can, but it doesn't
In this game at least
hybrid flare
But it does, conceptually it's not very complex
fiery burrow
Yeah this is kinda freaky I'm like ALMOST scared but I would NEVER EVER show emotion
wind mulch
Nope, the chaos that anarchy brings when doing a revolution
i dont know its a bit of a nothing theme. The chaos that comes with revolution but its entirely indiscriminate and doesnt actually move to achieve anything other than absolute destruction? it just comes back to evil goo
hybrid flare
like you dont need to actually play the 1st game to know that scary goo is scarily destructive
subtle lynx
Since again, void has no relation at all to the citadel or the main characters, it is a separate entity unlike HK where it was EXTREMELY CONNECTED to the main plot
brisk parcel
silksong feels bad cause it also has the same idea of a falling kingdom only difference being falling not fallen
fiery burrow
like you dont need to actually play the 1st game to know that scary goo is scari...
Yeah if you played the first game you would know that's not the case 
exotic dome
i mean it was the only way but that doesnt make it necessarily good
yea it's mid, i like the fight mechnaically
subtle lynx
Since again, void has no relation at all to the citadel or the main characters, ...
That's also why void sucks in this game, you can't have impactful stuff in it like the million corpses since void is not relevant
hybrid flare
Yeah if you played the first game you would know that's not the case <:feelspkma...
It is scarily destructive but it's a big joke in the 1st game
midnight magnet
I wish I felt buggy like I once did
fiery burrow
Well yes the entire point was that it was powerful but it also lacked any unity to do anything and mostly kept to itself
subtle lynx
Yeah this is kinda freaky I'm like ALMOST scared but I would NEVER EVER show emo...
It is also not the freakeast thing she's seen but whatever
sharp slate
i guess introducing void at the end would be like introducing lifeblood taking over at the end after defeating the radiance
fiery burrow
Void mechanically makes sense in SS but its not quite as interesting and lets not pretend it fulfilled the same role in HK
hybrid flare
What i do agree on is the void really not being present anywhere else which yeah
brisk parcel
yea it's mid, i like the fight mechnaically
i wish they kept in the void soaked thread attack
light swan
i want more void area ideas for lacelight
what else does the ancient civilization have
subtle lynx
i guess introducing void at the end would be like introducing lifeblood taking o...
Yes
brisk parcel
what else does the ancient civilization have
people
midnight magnet
what else does the ancient civilization have
Buggy bugs
fiery burrow
It is also not the freakeast thing she's seen but whatever
she has trypophobia
midnight magnet
Those bugs made me feel buggy once.
subtle lynx
Well, not even like that, since lifeblood still had appearances in hk
light swan
ill just draw random shapes
rocky jolt
subtle lynx
she has trypophobia
She doesn't mention fear in the big gloom which is like???
fiery burrow
where's E33
terse heart
you hate indie games??????????/
onyx python
son, i don't like indie games, i like games that are good and are worth of my time and money
hybrid flare
Void mechanically makes sense in SS but its not quite as interesting and lets no...
It's not quite the same thing as in the 1st game it represented regret while in skong its chaos
rocky jolt
where's E33
in the hellpits that are named france
brisk parcel
wheres chess
wind mulch
oh thats star
hybrid flare
where's E33
"Indie"
Iirc e33 was backed by the french government idk how true this is
rocky jolt
also yeah it aint indie
sharp slate
son, i don't like indie games, i like games that are good and are worth of my ti...
this tbh
subtle lynx
the WHAT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLut-Ly5rE
If the abyss had a theme song, it would be this
fiery burrow
Iirc e33 was backed by the french government idk how true this is
have y'all not heard of art grants
rocky jolt
hybrid flare
have y'all not heard of art grants
"Art" to then pour it all on a ue5 game 💔
fiery burrow
governments giving funding to indie studios (not just games) is like a whole thing
wind mulch
backed by the french government like its some kind of foreign coup
opaque sigil
Indie means self published
not even
hybrid flare
graphics aside it seems solid either way
opaque sigil
is ultrakill not indie
brisk parcel
son, i don't like indie games, i like games that are good and are worth of my ti...
only playing indie feels like youre trying to show off
hybrid flare
Wouldn't say so yeah
rocky jolt
is ultrakill not indie
hakita is literally a billionaire
exotic dome
silksong is not indie
lean pendant
Fun Fact: A chicken's head is so stable that you could attach a camera to it and record from a speedboat on rough waters and the footage wouldn't have any camera shake.
exotic dome
team cherry is an AAA company
heady iron
indie means a $5 budget
onyx python
only playing indie feels like youre trying to show off
"you play indies because you are a glazer, i play indie games because i'm poor"
torpid kiln
team cherry is an AAA company
Untrue because they make good games
fiery burrow
If you told an ultrakill fan they weren't playing a hidden gem indie game they'd literally die on the spot lowk
sharp slate
For example Morbid Metal is a game currently published by ubisoft, but its an EXTREMELY small team
rocky jolt
subtle lynx
only playing indie feels like youre trying to show off
Playing triple A games in big 2026 is trolling
hybrid flare
and the creators of E33 outsourced shit tons of work n had lots of funding to work with
leaden delta
meh. I play for the most part only indies
torpid kiln
Elden ring is my favorite indie game
opaque sigil
Untrue because they make good games
onyx python
springtrap has the source virus on his skin
fiery burrow
Untrue because they make good games
surely
brisk parcel
"you play indies because you are a glazer, i play indie games because i'm poor"
i didnt have money the first time i played hollow knight so i downloaded a virus on bluestacks to play
hybrid flare
If you told an ultrakill fan they weren't playing a hidden gem indie game they'd...
even ma granny knows ultrakill
sharp slate
Playing triple A games in big 2026 is trolling
There are plenty of good games out there from triple A, you dont need to play brand new games to enjoy them as well
wind mulch
surely triple A's are consistently better
torpid kiln
even ma granny knows ultrakill
Your granny cool as hell
rocky jolt
playing indie games is like larping videogames
onyx python
i didnt have money the first time i played hollow knight so i downloaded a virus...
i playted hollow knight because my friend bought it and we share the library
hybrid flare
playing videogames is larping hobbies
midnight magnet
Ultrakill makes me feel really really buggy
sharp slate
Hell for example i played ghost recon wildlands (only ghost recon i played) got it for 8$ an amazing game even though its not new
terse heart
https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-city-boy-aura-monster-subaru-natuski-mario-gif-2906700990866198539
subtle lynx
There are plenty of good games out there from triple A, you dont need to play br...
Triple A games in the past few years are just either bad or mid and overpriced
wind mulch
playing indie games is like larping videogames
opaque sigil
surely triple A's are consistently better
in general aaas are way better yeah it's not even close, 99% of indies are shovelware slop
rocky jolt
playing videogames is larping hobbies
facts
hybrid flare
in general aaas are way better yeah it's not even close, 99% of indies are shove...
This is true
onyx python
Playing triple A games in big 2026 is trolling
hybrid flare
flash games are indies
sharp slate
Theres a lot of trash in both indies and triple As
fiery burrow
I legit think anyone who says AAA games are bad hasn't touched one for like 5 years
sharp slate
thankfully there are a ton of games out there
torpid kiln
Theres a lot of trash in both indies and triple As
opaque sigil
Theres a lot of trash in both indies and triple As
sure but there's like a LOT more trash in indies
heady iron
I'd rather play fnaf fangame #5123478 than gta 6
hybrid flare
thing is AAA's somehow mess up really badly having everything and indies are made in a garage toaster with 3$ of budget
subtle lynx
Theres a lot of trash in both indies and triple As
The thing is, only good new games nowadays are from indie studios
wind mulch
yea its just a lot worse when a triple a is bad
torpid kiln
The thing is, only good new games nowadays are from indie studios
Elden ring
sharp slate
sure but there's like a LOT more trash in indies <:feelspkman:639636442821165056...
yea, but that makes sense due to the scale of games made, single devs ect. triple As take a lot of time to make
brisk parcel
sorry
brisk parcel
https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-punch-omni-man-strong-gif-7980804001733...
thraggs a fraud
torpid kiln
Uhhhh what a another good triple a
exotic dome
The thing is, only good new games nowadays are from indie studios
not really. but it's true that some of the biggest companies stopped making good games
hybrid flare
Is fromslop a large enough company to be considered AAA
wind mulch
Uhhhh what a another good triple a
monster hunter
terse heart
Uhhhh what a another good triple a
A + A + A = C
torpid kiln
Is fromslop a large enough company to be considered AAA
It’s a namco subsidiary
subtle lynx
Elden ring
There are a few exceptions, but it's funny you had to go back to a game from 2022
brisk parcel
i playted hollow knight because my friend bought it and we share the library
i played it cause i saw hornet on my fyp
rocky jolt
indie game in a 1900s cartoon style 🤖
exotic dome
resident evil 9
opaque sigil
not really. but it's true that some of the biggest companies stopped making good...
not really, capcom's been on a crazy winning streak recently
torpid kiln
There are a few exceptions, but it's funny you had to go back to a game from 202...
Yeah economy’s been in the shitter since
onyx python
thraggs a fraud
he's like the second strongest viltrumite wtf are you talking about
fiery burrow
monster hunter
true
subtle lynx
resident evil 9
That shit is only good for the first hours, then it becomes slop and it's overpriced as hell
brisk parcel
he's like the second strongest viltrumite wtf are you talking about
notice how he showed himself after debbie left earth?
teal ridge
ekh
terse heart
midnight magnet
AAA just doesnt make me feel buggy enough anymore. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
wind mulch
whats even the point if its not an indie game thats secretly about depression or something
subtle lynx
Basically the hospital section
exotic dome
not really, capcom's been on a crazy winning streak recently
capcom is good, ubisoft, ea and activision fell off
subtle lynx
whats even the point if its not an indie game thats secretly about depression or...
No those suck too
hybrid flare
There are a few exceptions, but it's funny you had to go back to a game from 202...
I've heard that pragmata is pretty good and so is KCD2
torpid kiln
Apparently battlefield 6 is pretty good
exotic dome
ubisoft so desperate they made a remake of ac black flag
fiery burrow
i ONLY play indie games with fanbases that glaze their difficulty 24/7 (they aren't that hard)
hybrid flare
i ONLY play indie games with fanbases that glaze their difficulty 24/7 (they are...
nine sols
onyx python
i've seen pragmata's trailer and it seemed like a really really generic game but idk
hybrid flare
no clue
brisk parcel
https://tenor.com/view/long-hair-mark-tracksuit-mark-tech-jacket-invincible-war-...
and also notice how he didnt stop marks impact frame rich punch but stopped olivers????
terse heart
GUYS
fiery burrow
oh and it can't be 3D or have any realistic artstyle
torpid kiln
Indie game triple a game doesn’t matter I just play good video games
heady iron
for every pragmata there are 7 billion highguards trust me
hybrid flare
"realistic artstyle" (ue5 graphics)
torpid kiln
Qualityslop
subtle lynx
oh and it can't be 3D or have any realistic artstyle
No it can be 3d, but those low polygon 3d games like death doors or tunic
onyx python
and also notice how he didnt stop marks impact frame rich punch but stopped oliv...
it's because oliver is a chud and purple and half cricket he's disgusting and deserves to be buried in alcohol
sharp slate
Triple A games in the past few years are just either bad or mid and overpriced
Last 5 years good triple A (even if i didnt play them) BG3, KCD2, horizon zero dawn (new one), ghost of tsushima, silent hill 2 remake, elden ring, helldivers (not sure if triple A), God of War (debatable just off top my head)
hybrid flare
artstyle and graphics arent the same thing
onyx python
imean not alcohol but something else that kills arthropodes
torpid kiln
Also Nintendo is a triple a studio right
fiery burrow
No it can be 3d, but those low polygon 3d games like death doors or tunic
see what I mean 🥀
sharp slate
Let it be known i have only played like 2 of the games on that list, but from what i heard from other people
hybrid flare
Last 5 years good triple A (even if i didnt play them) BG3, KCD2, horizon zero d...
hd2 is AA
wind mulch
nightrein
hybrid flare
and it fell off hard
torpid kiln
So like tears of the kingdom
hybrid flare
my fav game is AAA idk what y'all on
hybrid flare
this is where terminology is annoying
true
subtle lynx
Last 5 years good triple A (even if i didnt play them) BG3, KCD2, horizon zero d...
Nobody talks about horizon despite being marketed everywhere by playstation that says a lot about that, and the newest god of wars are just mid and overpriced (GOWR)
brisk parcel
it's because oliver is a chud and purple and half cricket he's disgusting and de...
no cause oliver was too strong for him and he needed to terminate the threat
hybrid flare
helldivers 2
brisk parcel
can hornet say the n word
wind mulch
death stranding
light swan
@hybrid flare where should the final boss be lolz
torpid kiln
Nobody talks about horizon despite being marketed everywhere by playstation that...
I’ve heard different but I haven’t played it
heady iron
the best games in the past 3 years have all been indie: bg3, e33, bmw
torpid kiln
can hornet say the n word
The n word wouldn’t exist in the world of hollow knight because there’s no transatlantic slave trade
subtle lynx
I've never met a horizon fan, online or irl
light swan
im thinking of having an area called The High Command, taken over by void, being where the final boss is
wind mulch
what is bmw
onyx python
can hornet say the n word
holding back myself like mark strangling conquest to not say something awful rn
light swan
the high command being the orange area here
hybrid flare
<@795403491320660018> where should the final boss be lolz
mate make the areas first, i'd imagine one arena being like, the first vein they cut of the dormant god and the 2nd one being smt void related
heady iron
what is bmw
wukong
sharp slate
Nobody talks about horizon despite being marketed everywhere by playstation that...
i have heard a lot of good things about horizon zero dawn, im gonna play first, one i snagged it on sale
torpid kiln
I've never met a horizon fan, online or irl
My roommate in college really liked it but he has 20,000+ hours in destiny 1 and 2 so take that with a grain of salt
hybrid flare
im thinking of having an area called The High Command, taken over by void, being...
they arent taken over by void did you read what i wrote
brisk parcel
The n word wouldn’t exist in the world of hollow knight because there’s no trans...
son thats the entire plot of silksong, slaves
opaque sigil
i have heard a lot of good things about horizon zero dawn, im gonna play first, ...
they're pretty good
hybrid flare
they've taken the vow with the dormant god
light swan
they arent taken over by void did you read what i wrote
well yea, i mean the area not the people
brisk parcel
holding back myself like mark strangling conquest to not say something awful rn
go ahead
hybrid flare
I mean they reside on the safe haven section
mortal bluff
Do you know what I think is super lame. Not one single bilewater exclusive NPC
light swan
thats where the higherups of the government resides but their safe haven is dying
onyx python
The n word wouldn’t exist in the world of hollow knight because there’s no trans...
there is, the first sinner recognises that her kind is not above anyone else because they aren't divine or something like that idk
exotic cedar
Do you know what I think is super lame. Not one single bilewater exclusive NPC
That makes the area better
torpid kiln
son thats the entire plot of silksong, slaves
hybrid flare
later in the game maybe john white goes down into a void tainted area to try and find something that will help him fix stuff
mortal bluff
That makes the area better
How lol?
vale whale
the best games in the past 3 years have all been indie: bg3, e33, bmw
fucking e33 ew
sharp slate
Do you know what I think is super lame. Not one single bilewater exclusive NPC
we got two dead ones if that makes up for it
exotic cedar
That makes the area better
It shows you how hostile it is, no one likes you
subtle lynx
Do you know what I think is super lame. Not one single bilewater exclusive NPC
Shakra
sharp slate
shakra isnt exclusive to bilewater
mortal bluff
we got two dead ones if that makes up for it
Who? Pinmaster is ducts lol
torpid kiln
Do you know what I think is super lame. Not one single bilewater exclusive NPC
They’re gonna add fluke hermit there again later
subtle lynx
shakra isnt exclusive to bilewater
Groal
light swan
the high command being the orange area here
well i think the orange area should be an area of significance, like a shrine or something
sharp slate
Who? Pinmaster is ducts lol
Snail shaman and Shakras master
hybrid flare
thats where the higherups of the government resides but their safe haven is dyin...
The safe haven is like half of their previous city and their own personal residence palace thingy is covered with blood that sprouts flowers
wind mulch
i still need to play e33
sharp slate
i dont consider a boss a npc imo
mortal bluff
Snail shaman and Shakras master
Ahh yes
opaque sigil
i still need to play e33
you really do
subtle lynx
Boss not Npc
He's a non playable character, but sure
subtle lynx
i dont consider a boss a npc imo
The flea that captures you
vale whale
Do you know what I think is super lame. Not one single bilewater exclusive NPC
stilkin with a glock
sharp slate
i think when most people talk about NPCs they mean characters you directly talk to/interact with
wind mulch
you really do
ill get it when im next paid
light swan
The safe haven is like half of their previous city and their own personal reside...
should i just make the high command part of the regular lands serene city
torpid kiln
He's a non playable character, but sure
Npc usually means interactable characters and not enemies
hybrid flare
should i just make the high command part of the regular lands serene city
yeah that's the plan
brisk parcel
i don't urge to say it anymore because i'm super pure pwerson
say it
light swan
i like them being separated from the regular city tho
subtle lynx
i think when most people talk about NPCs they mean characters you directly talk ...
The needolin stilkin
sharp slate
i wouldnt call a tiny moss enemy an npc xD
mortal bluff
I feel like a midwife kind of character would fit well. Or perhaps someone hiding from the horrors
sharp slate
even though thats technically the defintion
fiery burrow
ChatGPT something something E33 you know the drill
light swan
the high command being the orange area here
maybe the orange area was the place where they first took the vow
subtle lynx
Shakra's mother
hybrid flare
i like them being separated from the regular city tho
Maybe, since they've been tainted a bit too much by the dormant god they dont make public appereances
hybrid flare
ChatGPT something something E33 you know the drill
shit is this rdr2 or smt i cant really differentiate
brisk parcel
is shakra a hornet
opaque sigil
ChatGPT something something E33 you know the drill
sandfall stealing all karak's water to do a better coral area
fiery burrow
wind mulch
every screenshot i see of e33 is so pretty
light swan
maybe the orange area was the place where they first took the vow
@hybrid flare
onyx python
i wish that the old heart dudes in silksong had a final monologue like ultrakill prime souls
opaque sigil
every screenshot i see of e33 is so pretty
it has some of the best art direction out there for games
onyx python
nah it's cuphead
brisk parcel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405719149044437022/1412264044613865482/o...
so you would say it if you wouldnt get banned
light swan
ngl i feel like this map is too small, or maybe the areas are too big
exotic dome
||white sands|| area was beautiful in e33
fiery burrow
Khann would never match the aura of Sisyphus
hybrid flare
maybe the orange area was the place where they first took the vow
Which orange and yeah there will be the first vein
lament vessel
i wish that the old heart dudes in silksong had a final monologue like ultrakill...
They do tho well it's not a monologue but yk it's still a dying line
onyx python
so you would say it if you wouldnt get banned
fiery burrow
What is Odysseus gonna say
hybrid flare
it has some of the best art direction out there for games
tainted by generic ue5 graphics
brisk parcel
https://tenor.com/view/hi-mommy-will-it-work-kirk-if-ied-kirk-ify-charlie-kirk-g...
how you got the rgull1t gifs
light swan
Which orange and yeah there will be the first vein
the one bewteen the blues
onyx python
They do tho well it's not a monologue but yk it's still a dying line
nah they just scream
candid kayak
https://tenor.com/view/bear-inthe-big-blue-house-bear-in-the-big-blue-house-bear...
is that... bear from bear in the big blue house...???
lament vessel
What is Odysseus gonna say
There are other ways of persuasion
hybrid flare
What is Odysseus gonna say
"Oh, zoinks, scoob! you thought i was lucifer???"
torpid kiln
is that... bear from bear in the big blue house...???
Probably. It’s the first gif that comes up when you search void
fiery burrow
lucifer prime fans will be executed
candid kayak
lmfao
onyx python
how you got the rgull1t gifs
candid kayak
good lord I haven't thought about bear in the big blue house in a LOOOOOOOONG time
fiery burrow
trans lucifer is still the funniest theory
hybrid flare
the high command being the orange area here
thats yellow as hell and you mean the bottom right?
heady iron
how can I enjoy this gif if there's no benjammins in it
wind mulch
trans lucifer is still the funniest theory
ultrakill?
light swan
thats yellow as hell and you mean the bottom right?
the bottom right is completely yellow and no
onyx python
trans lucifer is still the funniest theory
how does this affect the lore
light swan
fiery burrow
ultrakill?
yeah
hybrid flare
trans lucifer is still the funniest theory
lucifer just ripping through your screen and punching you in the face
lament vessel
nah they just scream
No like "...How we hunted... How we sang... My Children, I saw you glorius..." with karm
torpid kiln
trans lucifer is still the funniest theory
Shit that might actually motivate me to keep playing
I put down ultrakill a while back I need to finish it
fiery burrow
something about greater angels using he/him as a sign of respect towards god
wind mulch
i dont rlly understand the universe of ultrakill i thought the angels and such were robots as well?
onyx python
No like "...How we hunted... How we sang... My Children, I saw you glorius..." w...
oh wait that's true i forgot
wind mulch
or is that like a suit
fiery burrow
Angels are just angels
hybrid flare
something about greater angels using he/him as a sign of respect towards god
god threw the mf down himself btw
brisk parcel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308482260168609812/1476004615857373398/a...
send the thragg run bro gif with immortal in the back
hybrid flare
my goat would never
lament vessel
Is that the silksong map
fiery burrow
There are Lesser Angels who are the souls of humans in heaven and Greater Angels who are like the more traditional concept of them
hybrid flare
Make the first vein more connected to high command and the upper green area which i assume is the closed off city remnants
onyx python
send the thragg run bro gif with immortal in the back
i don't have that giff
fiery burrow
or is that like a suit
Yeah armor
hybrid flare
The placement is very neat as if the journey is circular
opaque sigil
something about greater angels using he/him as a sign of respect towards god
That fraud statue goes crazy
hybrid flare
Yeah armor
that armor is their skin btw
light swan
heres a bit of WIP, high command is pretty far from the first vein
hybrid flare
heres a bit of WIP, high command is pretty far from the first vein
idk why you made the red region the city when it can be the lime area next to high command
graceful oyster
After today's practice I'm down to 2:01 lol
hybrid flare
literally perfect btw
hazy spear
heres a bit of WIP, high command is pretty far from the first vein
Does any of this other than lands serene have canon origins
graceful oyster
I keep getting Qi starved
light swan
Does any of this other than lands serene have canon origins
nope
hazy spear
Like first vein?
light swan
idk why you made the red region the city when it can be the lime area next to hi...
i can move it, idk how i feel about the city being the 2nd area tho which is the problem
torpid kiln
heres a bit of WIP, high command is pretty far from the first vein
Add a wyrm corpse >:)
hybrid flare
i can move it, idk how i feel about the city being the 2nd area tho which is the...
It could be the teal area maybe if you expand it
hazy spear
i can move it, idk how i feel about the city being the 2nd area tho which is the...
I think moving high command would be better
hybrid flare
and the lime area sort of like outskirts
hybrid flare
I think moving high command would be better
its perfectly placed imo
fiery burrow
That fraud statue goes crazy
There's only one cooler statue
light swan
alr
hybrid flare
There's only one cooler statue <:feelspkman:639636442821165056>
"statue"
fiery burrow
It is
hybrid flare
god's statue mogs
fiery burrow
||Geryon gets impaled on a statue of itself||
hazy spear
its perfectly placed imo
Could make it so you have to go all the way around the map, then open a path from city to lightmarsh
hybrid flare
||Geryon gets impaled on a statue of itself||
why show the scene instead of the statue itself
fiery burrow
Not as tuff
hybrid flare
Could make it so you have to go all the way around the map, then open a path fro...
Yeah, thats kinda how i see it, circular journey
hybrid flare
Not as tuff
but screen filled with bloodslop
hazy spear
Yeah, thats kinda how i see it, circular journey
Yeah we're running out of directions to go in these games
Up down and now we go around
hybrid flare
it was down in hk in skong it was down AND up now its a fucking circle
fiery burrow
I also like this detail backstage
hazy spear
it was down in hk in skong it was down AND up now its a fucking circle
Switched
graceful oyster
HOLY CRIKIES
slender juniper
Forgotten Kingdoms was such a mid map
hazy spear
Down in hk up in sk
graceful oyster
I JUST GOT 1:47!!!!
slender juniper
Forgotten Kingdoms was such a mid map
The parkour was so shit
It's buggy as hell
hybrid flare
Down in hk up in sk
sk is actually both
graceful oyster
That's 13s off from WR
light swan
what did you DO
slender juniper
I JUST GOT 1:47!!!!
In what
hazy spear
sk is actually both
They are both both
Hk goes from dirtmouth to abyss to black egg
Silksong goes from moss grotto to citadel to abyss
graceful oyster
I almost forgot to record my jades 
hazy spear
So ig we already have loops :/
graceful oyster
(None)
slender juniper
Is Speedruning nine sols fun
hybrid flare
heres a bit of WIP, high command is pretty far from the first vein
imo first vein and floral valley should be connected somehow
tight viper
Congrats
graceful oyster
Is Speedruning nine sols fun
Yes
onyx python
There's only one cooler statue <:feelspkman:639636442821165056>
when i p ranked that lv i felt sbsolute dread because 8-3 was still there
fiery burrow
when i p ranked that lv i felt sbsolute dread because 8-3 was still there
true
lusty grove
howdy everybug
what's the discussion today?
tight viper
howdy everybug
what's the discussion today?
One sec I'll get a Silksong discussion topic
sharp slate
Is Speedruning nine sols fun
beginning sounds like pain, though different types of speedrunners have different tolerances
light swan
imo first vein and floral valley should be connected somehow
hmm i can try to make a path under the city
hybrid flare
hmmm what purpose would floral valley serve
plush plover
not sure about overworld speedrunning in 9s, but battle memories is quite fun
lusty grove
hmmm what purpose would floral valley serve
what's that
graceful oyster
what did you DO
Just constant pressure with WF
rocky jolt
do NOT translate "sense under speech" to danish
graceful oyster
I also think it was hitless but I have to check
sharp slate
unironcally silksongs speedrunning any% is actually fun if you dont take it serious, i would shoot myself if i had the mindset to reset every time i messed up
light swan
hmmm what purpose would floral valley serve
its a key moment in the story i decided
lusty grove
do NOT translate "sense under speech" to danish
hybrid flare
maybe kinda like a seal the high command tried to do as a last resort to protect themselves, near the advancing forces, opening a huge wound out of the dormant god and basically being a blood waterfall with corpses and flowers
lusty grove
its a key moment in the story i decided
oh, you're making a fangame?
light swan
maybe kinda like a seal the high command tried to do as a last resort to protect...
yes!
hybrid flare
As john white chose to bury the rest of what was lost in shame
and that was his last play
lusty grove
wtf am i doing lol
what's that unnamed yellow part?
hybrid flare
before eventually realizing the toll it took was too high and couldnt be sustained any further
light swan
what's that unnamed yellow part?
no idea yet
lusty grove
no idea yet
what's the lore up to this point? Maybe I can help
hybrid flare
Im lwk heavy on the bloodborne references here
hazy spear
https://discord.com/channels/283467363729408000/586931790208434203/1497026535972...
Can we discuss if wl is from lands serene rq
light swan
shes probably not, we know ze'mer is
hybrid flare
Maybe the designs of bugs will be based off of plants
hazy spear
It said she came from another land
hybrid flare
like ze'mer looks very plantoid to me
lusty grove
ooooo interesting
hazy spear
She knows about everbloom
lusty grove
like ze'mer looks very plantoid to me
she's prob a cockroach
hazy spear
She is a plant like nubbie said
light swan
does this mean greyroot also came from lands serene
greyroot is voided white lady confirmed
hazy spear
does this mean greyroot also came from lands serene
Another thing I was wondering
hazy spear
greyroot is voided white lady confirmed
I don't think they are related, but hornet refuses to go into abyss with parasite
Can someone find that dialogue on wiki
hybrid flare
she states she will be too weak to fight in that state
there's really nothing more to it
hazy spear
she states she will be too weak to fight in that state
Ty, I was wondering if she was too weak or if she was worried it would eat the void
Bc it does kill wardenfly
hybrid flare
parasite has NOTHING on the void
hazy spear
parasite has NOTHING on the void
What abt after it ate a hb and a half hb
Then does it stand a chance
onyx python
what if the parasite tries to make its home inside TK
ionic stump
i got sea of sorrow early access
lusty grove
what if the parasite tries to make its home inside TK
it would die
hybrid flare
well its an entire fucking sea of black sharp stuff vs powerful but extremely weakened being
hybrid flare
wtf am i doing lol
Yk the spire region could be a horizontally fallen spire
lusty grove
"what if the baby tried to make its home inside the Thing That Is Filled With Death Substance"
onyx python
i mean if the night crawlers can resist the void then the parasite should resist the void it tottally makes sense
hazy spear
"what if the baby tried to make its home inside the Thing That Is Filled With De...
It'd probably eat the death substance
onyx python
yummers
hazy spear
i mean if the night crawlers can resist the void then the parasite should resist...
Interesting how they can't resist the infection, but the void can resist the infection
lusty grove
i mean if the night crawlers can resist the void then the parasite should resist...
the Shadow Creepers (if that's what you mean) are cosmic horror creatures and their existence should not be used as a standard
hazy spear
But they can resist the void
light swan
wait so
lusty grove
Interesting how they can't resist the infection, but the void can resist the inf...
Shadow Creepers don't have Void
the ones that do are the Shadow Chargers
hazy spear
the Shadow Creepers (if that's what you mean) are cosmic horror creatures and th...
Wait you mean the little ones or the big ones
onyx python
Interesting how they can't resist the infection, but the void can resist the inf...
do the infection even do something with them? they're kind of still there doing their thing
hazy spear
The ones in hk too
graceful oyster
what did you DO
(Nine Sols late boss spoilers!!!)
Here's that run
lusty grove
Wait you mean the little ones or the big ones
the little ones
the big ones are also weird
light swan
a viable path to the White Floral Valley is city > first vein > valley
the first vein is voided atm, but you cant actually enter the void through it
foreshadowing !
hybrid flare
(Nine Sols late boss spoilers!!!)
Here's that run
grynne became a fucking 9s speedrunner now
hybrid flare
a viable path to the White Floral Valley is city > first vein > valley
the first...
eeeeehhh, i wouldn't make the 1st vein of all things voided
remember, voided areas are voided because there's nothing to stop the void
lusty grove
Shadow Creepers freak me out
hazy spear
(Nine Sols late boss spoilers!!!)
Here's that run
Hey your suggestive content warning is gone 🫣
This is super inappropriate
graceful oyster
True
light swan
eeeeehhh, i wouldn't make the 1st vein of all things voided
i guessssss
hazy spear
the little ones
the big ones are also weird
Big ones are def cosmic horror
lone escarp
guys, which is the best crest for karmelita?
lusty grove
Shadow Creepers freak me out
omnipresent beings that don't interact with the ecossystem, hang out in the deepest depths of the world, have no thoughts but most certainly have a mind, and can consume Void without dying
hybrid flare
i guessssss
make it so you gradually start seeing more decay and then it stops in valley but once you drop into the defiled fortress it spikes back up
hazy spear
guys, which is the best crest for karmelita?
Best crest for everything (bosses, not platforming) is architect but architect is no skill and frowned upon
light swan
should the red area be voided
lone escarp
i don't like it anyway
lusty grove
should the red area be voided
make the left sidde Voided but not the right side
exotic dome
whats the purpose of red area
light swan
no idea
hazy spear
i don't like it anyway
Beast is good if you have experience at beast, wanderer is decent overall if you throw in longclaw
onyx python
omnipresent beings that don't interact with the ecossystem, hang out in the deep...
i just see them as a lucky animal that found a endless source of energy to reproduce and not die
light swan
lightmarsh should definitely be half voided cuz that was the original idea for the area
lone escarp
thanks
light swan
i imagine its like
hybrid flare
should the red area be voided
Nah
lusty grove
i just see them as a lucky animal that found a endless source of energy to repro...
"lucky animal" those things are omnipresent
onyx python
Beast is good if you have experience at beast, wanderer is decent overall if you...
reaper is the best with longclaw rah
hybrid flare
Maybe the red one is a rogue faction rising to the devastation of both the AC kingdom and the weakening of lands serene
lusty grove
they're probably older than every other bug ever, and will probably outlive every other bug ever
hazy spear
reaper is the best with longclaw rah
I am saying wanderer has good dps but it is useful to add range to it
light swan
the void is spreading up but the first vein & floral valley are like walls stopping the spread
hybrid flare
Feeding off of rusted chasms
light swan
but the void is spreading around and heading up through lightmarsh
onyx python
"lucky animal" those things are omnipresent
i mean there are a lot of organisms in earth that are spreaded across multiple areas of the planet
hazy spear
Wait guys I just realised
hybrid flare
Maybe the upper golden area to the left is the generic feral overgrowth fed through the pale blood
lusty grove
Maybe the red one is a rogue faction rising to the devastation of both the AC ki...
...the red...
...coral...
...GORGE
light swan
Maybe the upper golden area to the left is the generic feral overgrowth fed thro...
feral undergrowth? like, mio?
should half the rusted chasm be voided
hazy spear
You think that can be useful
lusty grove
should half the rusted chasm be voided
the bottom, maybe
hazy spear
If we can find the mask shape
hybrid flare
should half the rusted chasm be voided
nah stop w the void
lusty grove
not the top
light swan
should the red area be voided
the dark areas are voided atm
is it fine as is
lusty grove
or better, make dark purple part of the chasm and make that part voided
light swan
lusty grove
yeah like that
light swan
wait i need to do the thing to the upper left golden area
lusty grove
wait i need to do the thing to the upper left golden area
make it have a connection with the surface
hybrid flare
nah lwk dont make chasms rise up that high
it would mess with the flow of the red region
light swan
should the red area be voided
so is this good
light swan
what should the weird green area in the bottom middle be
hybrid flare
maybe trade routes between those 2 kingdoms
light swan
so like a port/oasis town
hybrid flare
what if there are actually scraps of AC in the lands serene
Like someone stirrs down there
It could be for the collapsed spire for some noble to refuse to leave
exotic dome
so like a port/oasis town
a neutral trade kingdom
hybrid flare
a neutral trade kingdom
wouldnt fit in the narrative
graceful oyster
I could submit that run and get the number 2 spot for jadeless bowless WF F&N, but submitting a run for a #2 is stupid
Need me that first
hybrid flare
And rusted chasm likely being a means of entry of transport from one side of the kingdom
light swan
random guy from alaska takes the #1 spot out of nowhere 30 minute youtube documentary
hazy spear
Sunflower overgrowth
hybrid flare
random guy from alaska takes the #1 spot out of nowhere 30 minute youtube docume...
geometry dash ass
light swan
and the first vein will be the locations of the final bosses
hazy spear
I always thought it would be cool if we got like a rose area with thorns in lands serene
light swan
geometry dash ass
moreso referring to bluesr videos
graceful oyster
I do have to make some changes to shave off 13 seconds though
hybrid flare
and the first vein will be the locations of the final bosses
I'd say the first one, but idk what about tfb
graceful oyster
Because 1:46.6 is kind of the limit of what my current flow will get me
hazy spear
Because 1:46.6 is kind of the limit of what my current flow will get me
If I were you I would get 4:89.2 bc I'm distracted by the suggestive cats in the background
hybrid flare
💔
graceful oyster
Need to start dashing through attacks to get WFs off if he's not tagged, and UCing literally anything if he is tagged
graceful oyster
If I were you I would get 4:89.2 bc I'm distracted by the suggestive cats in the...
You can zip it now
hazy spear
You can zip it now
Ok sorry
light swan
I'd say the first one, but idk what about tfb
i thought it was gonna be an eggnog situation where its the same location
hybrid flare
we need to map out the plot first illusion, do you want to go silksong act 3 route or hk final boss -> tfb?
hybrid flare
i thought it was gonna be an eggnog situation where its the same location
Maaaaaybe, idk
light swan
idk but i need to handle something real quick lol
hazy spear
Wait what is eggnog situation
Is that where something is good once but you would be happy if you never had it again
light swan
NINE SOLS SPOILERS ||same final boss, just a different harder third phase or smth like that||
graceful oyster
Hm I missed about 3-4 UCs and a few facedance opportunities and that might be good to cut off at least 10s
The amount of optimization this takes is insane
The guy who did this did really well
hybrid flare
NINE SOLS SPOILERS ||same final boss, just a different harder third phase or smt...
What would the difference in plot be
light swan
What would the difference in plot be
no idea
light swan
we need to map out the plot first illusion, do you want to go silksong act 3 rou...
hk final boss route
hybrid flare
alr bet
light swan
what lacelight content did i miss
this and some lore
worldly umbra
oooo
hybrid flare
see illusion knows
tight viper
Which boss should I work on
light swan
Which boss should I work on
crawfather or khann
tight viper
Crawfather it is
exotic dome
no floor last judge
sharp slate
crawfather sounds like helll...
exotic cedar
voltvrym would be interesting tho
I think its impossible
tight viper
crawfather sounds like helll...
It has been hell so far but I do want that hell to end
worldly umbra
it would be hard tho
worldly umbra
I think its impossible
tight viper
I think its impossible
I also think it's impossible but I refuse to give up
sharp slate
It has been hell so far but I do want that hell to end
for LL 2nd to 3rd phase transition can you air stall that long?
tight viper
for LL 2nd to 3rd phase transition can you air stall that long?
Indeed, you can
exotic dome
no floor no wall unravelled sounds impossible since you cant hit with a pogo
tight viper
no floor no wall unravelled sounds impossible since you cant hit with a pogo
You can pogo the tail
sharp slate
no floor no wall unravelled sounds impossible since you cant hit with a pogo
sideslash into pogo i assume
tight viper
And the spears
sharp slate
oh intresting
spice cargo
Indeed, you can
whats the point
sharp slate
Indeed, you can
thats crazy
tight viper
whats the point
Floorless
exotic dome
last judge seems doable, trobbios and first sinner are already hard to hitless, so they're probably hell
tight viper
but the phase transition
Forced landings don't count
spice cargo
<@795403491320660018> can we figure out the objective of the game
silksongs objective is to beat the radiance and save the land of storms
hybrid flare
<@795403491320660018> can we figure out the objective of the game
no clue
tight viper
The Dark Shore or something like that for the port, maybe?
sharp slate
<@795403491320660018> can we figure out the objective of the game
win
another game another higher being to beat the shit out of 😎
still waiting on the unveiling of lower beings
hybrid flare
another game another higher being to beat the shit out of 😎
believe it or not we've decided that not
heady iron
What if the game was about exploring a world ruined by a godlike entity, gaining power until you eventually face it
light swan
we already have the lore we just need to know the objectives and what lace is gonna do
raw pawn
Idk why but I no longer find myself using tools in combat
I just use needle and silk skills now
hybrid flare
we already have the lore we just need to know the objectives and what lace is go...
lwk ran out of stuff to think for today
exotic cedar
we already have the lore we just need to know the objectives and what lace is go...
Is it going to be like a real game or a cool concept?
quartz cave
i think ive decided to make my own movie
heady iron
It'll join the purgatory of every other hk fan project
quartz cave
chat what are we thinking about
light swan
the goal is to rip open more seals of the First Light like what john white did in white floral valley @hybrid flare
quartz cave
LittleBigPlanet 2: The Movie
graceful oyster
Ohhh Dex stays grounded, hm
worldly umbra
little big planet ?
quartz cave
hybrid flare
the goal is to rip open more seals of the First Light like what john white did i...
I mean it wouldnt work since john white stopped doing this because it takes a big toll on people being slowly consumed by the dormant god
graceful oyster
His first phase is 32s and my 1st phase was 33s, so I'm on the right track
quartz cave
read the file name for that image, its literally the truth
rocky jolt
light swan
lace wants to sacrifice everyone to open more seals of the first light
john white wants to protect his kingdom after he saw what happened in the white floral valley
and thats the conflict
hybrid flare
but also this begs the question, what is john white's goal
1st is keeping his kingdom secluded and safe, and in the TE where he develops he tries to fix it himself by delving into the lower sections and starting to rip stuff open disregarding the cost
hybrid flare
lace wants to sacrifice everyone to open more seals of the first light
john whit...
that's not a compelling protag imo
light swan
wdym by rip stuff open
hybrid flare
wdym by rip stuff open
wounding the dormant god
light swan
like what happened in the white floral valley?
hybrid flare
and the first vein yeah
Maybe lace tries to cleanse the void through her own vow
without the need of throwing people like john white did
light swan
so theres 2 different ways to cleanse void, lace's uinknown way vs john white's sacrifical wound things
hybrid flare
so theres 2 different ways to cleanse void, lace's uinknown way vs john white's ...
I'd say lace plans on giving part of herself to the god js like john white did for a time
as a sacrifice, getting new powers and stuff
but john white couldnt handle the toll himself and had to use others
quartz cave
john whites a placeholder name right 💔
light swan
yes
quartz cave
can you call them ismoil
hybrid flare
while in the TE he straight up chucks everyone into it even himself, his 3rd phase being almost one with the god
light swan
i think its a cool parallel how lace was fragile and bound to gms, now these people are fragile and bound to the dormant god
but i still dont get lace's method
is it that lace can handle it but john white cant?
quartz cave
she asks nicely
worldly umbra
so i named some stuff
hybrid flare
Lace can bear it in favour of the other bugs but john white couldnt
worldly umbra
and i also made some abilities
Movement
Flash Step : When pressing RT, move at high speeds to evade attacks quickly by dashing. (Mothwing Cloak)
Light Ledge : While on a wall, pressing A again will allow the user to climb walls. (Mantis Claw, Cling Grip)
Flaring Flow : When holding down Y, give out a beautiful voice that pulls in both light and void. (Dream Nail, Needolin)
Woven Grab : When pressing LT, create a throwable pin that you can use to cling to walls. (Unique ability. Example: Crystal Dash, Harpoon)
Illuminated Height : While in the air, pressing A again will result in another jump. (Monarch Wings, Faydown Cloak)
hybrid flare
all for that trauma not to surface ever again for anyone
and she's naturally more durable for the god
graceful oyster
HMMM Dex's run is flawwwwed he got hit a couple times and missed a few UCs
This is possible...... 
quartz cave
whos to say they need the same abilities? why not make a drastic change
why not instead of having a regular wall climb have
idk, maybe a wall run? you can go up a wall but only so much, and once you run out of momentum you just fall down so you cannot endleslly be stuck to a wall
light swan
Lace can bear it in favour of the other bugs but john white couldnt
wouldnt it be the other way around, john white is the one who cares for his kingdom the most
quartz cave
i feel like some uniqueness could really help the abilities
light swan
so i named some stuff
whats a corel
quartz cave
i also feel like that maps too medium sized
light swan
i feel like some uniqueness could really help the abilities
i agree
quartz cave
where are the very small areas or the grand giant locations
hybrid flare
wouldnt it be the other way around, john white is the one who cares for his king...
Truth nuke
worldly umbra
whats a corel
idk i just thought of a cool word lol
hybrid flare
but we gotta make lace empathetic somehow too
quartz cave
why does everything have an exit everwhere, why not add some that are smaller ones locked to only one exit
light swan
why does everything have an exit everwhere, why not add some that are smaller on...
i mean i could but those areas always tend to feel useless
the small areas type of thing
quartz cave
But they dont need to be
light swan
hive, hunters march, sands of karak, wisp thicket,
quartz cave
Ever wonder why they feel useless?
light swan
small areas definitely could work tho
quartz cave
Cause usually they give next to nothing and what they give is useless
hybrid flare
Maybe john white couldnt bear the sacrifice on himself and needed hosts for it, being his associates, but the cost was too great and he feared that the kingdom would fall without him
exotic dome
some exits could be only unlocked from one side
quartz cave
Why not have them be somewhat important on a way
hybrid flare
while lace resulted as the perfect vessel to have them
light swan
some exits could be only unlocked from one side
this too
quartz cave
But not necessarily be something you need to go into
As an example taking from prince of persia the lost crown
light swan
Cause usually they give next to nothing and what they give is useless
sands of karak gives khann, volt filament, conchcutter
huinters march is practically required for karmelita
also, there could always be subareas within these tbh
quartz cave
Often you find hidden minibosses that apa4t from being quite damn fun fights, they also give you a new combat ability, one thats not necessary, but that spices the combat encounters a lot
quartz cave
sands of karak gives khann, volt filament, conchcutter
huinters march is practic...
Hunters march is basically just a passage to far fields if were talking karmelita tbh
Id argue so is karak cause khann reqlly is on a different area. The coral tower
So that leaves a very easy miniboss and two charms
They also do not need to be uninteresting
slender juniper
I'm karming my Lita
quartz cave
See verdania? That place is outright useless, yet a lot of people love it because of its theming and aesthetics
Theres this one place in the lost crown that is basically a very small subarea
lusty grove
See verdania? That place is outright useless, yet a lot of people love it becaus...
it serves the purpose of lore
hybrid flare
and in the TE john white accepts most of the burden on himself and it is enough to contain it in the lower levels
lusty grove
and worldbuilding
worldly umbra
she karm on my eel until i eat her
lusty grove
not every area has to contain the best item ever
quartz cave
But its themed kind of like a lighthouse, where you can find a few useful upgrades, and it is floating by the cliff of a mountain overlooking the sea
hybrid flare
as a retribution factor for everything he caused, as it is mostly his own fault
onyx python
and in the TE john white accepts most of the burden on himself and it is enough ...
are you guys gonna call him john white forever
lusty grove
and in the TE john white accepts most of the burden on himself and it is enough ...
who's John White?
quartz cave
Which already made it memorable for me but also it has a secret exit where if you drop off the lighthouse into the air you can fall into a hidden room from the area right below, but that part is very cool and i dont wanna spoil it
hybrid flare
are you guys gonna call him john white forever
im bad at naming idfk
hybrid flare
who's John White?
antagonist of lacelight
onyx python
im bad at naming idfk
call him something like lux arthron or something (i'm ass at latin)
hybrid flare
idk how tc names their characters
quartz cave
I feel like that area also got help by not being inmediatelly accessible when you find it, as it is place right or a crossroads you need to go through, and inmediatelly left if a main sotry boss
Which leads you wondering what the hell is to that side you cannot access yet
worldly umbra
idk how tc names their characters
let me think of a name
heady iron
another caucasian male villain 🥱
lusty grove
im bad at naming idfk
call him the Bright Monarch, then make him a monarch butterfly like this one
quartz cave
Unlike the other small areas from hk and silksong which are all supper hidden (hive, thicket, karak)
worldly umbra
sashini did it before me
hybrid flare
call him the Bright Monarch, then make him a monarch butterfly like this one
we alr have a monarch that's a butterfly in the universe
quartz cave
Well karak kinda tried it, but they made the mistake of adding that exact type of wind not only in the same area, but also in hollow knight, which in both places meant you cannot go here
lusty grove
we alr have a monarch that's a butterfly <:feelspkman:639636442821165056> in the...
...do we?
worldly umbra
radiance
lusty grove
he's a worm
hybrid flare
cuz wings and stuff yk, and i'd imagine him as a firefly
quartz cave
not every area has to contain the best item ever
Exactly! The one im describing had useful stuff, but nothing you needed or was auper crazy like that
lusty grove
Pale King is a worm, White Lady is a root, Radiance is a moth, and GMS is a white woman
hybrid flare
gms is a spider apparently
quartz cave
But it made the world feel connectedand mysterious
hybrid flare
and john white's not a hb btw
worldly umbra
hey i have an idea
lusty grove
we alr have a monarch that's a butterfly <:feelspkman:639636442821165056> in the...
Pale King isn't very buttefly-ish anyway
hybrid flare
he's very attuned to the dormant god
lusty grove
and john white's not a hb btw
even better
worldly umbra
name him aylin or ayleen, it means bright and shining light, its a girls name but you can change it with an E or something
quartz cave
I feel so ignored actually ill jyst go back to playing hades 2
worldly umbra
name him aylin or ayleen, it means bright and shining light, its a girls name bu...
@hybrid flare
lusty grove
name him aylin or ayleen, it means bright and shining light, its a girls name bu...
make him a her
hybrid flare
<@795403491320660018>
idk, tryna combine latin elements into it
hybrid flare
make him a her
we've had 2 female antagonists till now
worldly umbra
its from irish and turkish origins
lusty grove
we've had 2 female antagonists till now
and...?
quartz cave
make him a her
Yall arent woke enough
worldly umbra
is that enough
quartz cave
Make em genderfluid
lusty grove
the more women in important roles, the merrier
lusty grove
Make em genderfluid
genderSOLID
quartz cave
no kidding, one of my villain oc's is
hybrid flare
Maybe lux
worldly umbra
eileen
quartz cave
very fun
worldly umbra
thats the male version of it
hybrid flare
truth
light swan
See verdania? That place is outright useless, yet a lot of people love it becaus...
i dont really love verdania because of how useless it is
worldly umbra
it has the same pronounciation as Ayleen
quartz cave
Maybe lux
no because then people will relate it to that twink lamp from date everything
worldly umbra
DO IT IT"LL BE GOOD
lusty grove
ideas:
Bright Monarch (then make him a butterfly)
Ayleen (then make him a woman)
Eileen
Lux
hybrid flare
what is this
slender juniper
https://tenor.com/view/lux-date-everything-date-everything-picmix-gif-2869913736...
Who tf is this
quartz cave
we dont want the antagonist to be a league of legends twink
bestie i dont think you know what twink means
worldly umbra
name him eileen, it a play on the word Ayleen, its a girls name that means "bright and shining light" it has the same pronounciation, same meaning, same thing
@light swan
quartz cave
eileen also exists lmao
hybrid flare
name him eileen, it a play on the word Ayleen, its a girls name that means "brig...
ye but girl name
worldly umbra
eileen
lusty grove
ye but girl name
and...?
quartz cave
any kind of "girls name" that ever exists WILL have seven trillion variations
onyx python
idk how tc names their characters
i mean it's kinda random like one of them is called radiance and the other is grand mother silk
worldly umbra
did you not get the point
light swan
bestie i dont think you know what twink means
i just realized i said twink bro i think i was reading your message and tyoped that 😭
hybrid flare
actually yeah i should give bro an auraful name
quartz cave
theres a very simple solution though
lusty grove
actually yeah i should give bro an auraful name
Lord of Bright
light swan
lux from league of legends is not a twink
worldly umbra
actually yeah i should give bro an auraful name
quartz cave
just call them a ""girls"" name even if they arent because why the fuck should that matter
hybrid flare
JOHN WHITE
light swan
Eileen The Transcendent
quartz cave
i just realized i said twink bro i think i was reading your message and tyoped t...
that happens to me sooo much im sobbing
hybrid flare
Luminarum
light swan
ABSOLUTE
LUMINARUM
lusty grove
Lord Serene
graceful oyster
Idk what you guys are doing really but Eileen sounds like a grandma name
lusty grove
cuz like, Land Serene, Lord Serene
light swan
lusefer
hybrid flare
Luminarum the vowbound commander
light swan
i dont like how luminarum sounds it feels like it should be luminarium
quartz cave
i think yall should call hime white john
light swan
LUMINARUM
THE VOWBOUND
graceful oyster
Planetarium
lusty grove
Luminum
worldly umbra
lumminiilmnnm
hybrid flare
fuck it references slop
lean pendant
Fun Fact: Sharks hate the taste of human flesh.
scenic yoke
Question: would using the Flea’s brew help me do the skip over in wormways?
worldly umbra
make it a pun or a play on words PLEASE
light swan
why light though?
the everbloom is described as the power from the First Light
quartz cave
or anything that is light adjacent
lusty grove
idea: give him a darkness related name for contrast stuff + metaphors
hybrid flare
eeh
quartz cave
doesnt have to be names that mean light necessarily, but it can be names that mean things related to light
midnight magnet
Fear full of hate perforates me like a yellowjacket.
worldly umbra
like eileen
lusty grove
idea: give him a darkness related name for contrast stuff + metaphors
like Umbreo the Bright
quartz cave
did you not say it means shining light
quartz cave
like Umbreo the Bright
hybrid flare
he's not very connected to the AC
quartz cave
yall also dont need regular names
i mean the enemies are literally called silk and radiance, neither of those are names
worldly umbra
rate the name eileen /10 i actually wanna know because i think it would be a fire name
scenic yoke
did you not say it means shining light
Umbra means “dark” or “shade” in Latin I’m pretty sure
hybrid flare
ah yes, vowbound ruler W H I T E
hybrid flare
rate the name eileen /10 i actually wanna know because i think it would be a fir...
6/10
quartz cave
Umbra means “dark” or “shade” in Latin I’m pretty sure
i was referring to zerofame but thank you for acknowleging my existance
light swan
i mean the enemies are literally called silk and radiance, neither of those are ...
i agree
surreal halo
rate the name eileen /10 i actually wanna know because i think it would be a fir...
10/10
scenic yoke
i was referring to zerofame but thank you for acknowleging my existance
Ooooohhh… whoops
hybrid flare
fulgor's a banger name but that must make him lightning related
quartz cave
also talking about that
scenic yoke
I’ll make sure to ignore you in future /j
heady iron
isn't that a nightreign boss
quartz cave
the first games main villain is literally called the radiance, which is a very bright light
why reheat the nachos
hybrid flare
Ye but a big point of john white's character is that he's just a guy
worldly umbra
did you not say it means shining light
yeah
hybrid flare
he's no hb
light swan
fulgora my beloved
quartz cave
alright chat give me a description of this john white guy
light swan
create your own description because we have no idea
hybrid flare
illusion pull the lore snipper
quartz cave
abilities, ideologies, ambition, purpose, etc
scenic yoke
Can silksong be played on mobile? I need to test this…
quartz cave
Can silksong be played on mobile? I need to test this…
yeah via streaming like geforce now, steam link, etc
hybrid flare
maybe side characters that would be neat
lean pendant
Fun Fact: You can use bread as an eraser.
hybrid flare
see yall
scenic yoke
Fun Fact: You can use bread as an eraser.
… I’m sorry fucking EXCUSE YOU?
remote osprey
i need to do the speedrun achievement oh my goddd
quartz cave
xbox also has a free streaming service if you have that
light swan
@quartz cave have you seen this
remote osprey
im gonna hate it so much
quartz cave
ok thats the story of what happened, but who is he
hybrid flare
<@664660023955292170> have you seen this
also dont forget to say that out of the first light's blood everblooms sprout
light swan
he wants to protect his kingdom ig
scenic yoke
Fun Fact: You can use bread as an eraser.
First of all how DARE you even think of an action that would ruin good bread. Second of all who just starts a conversation like that?
light swan
outside of that we have no idea
quartz cave
is he caring and kind or is he ruthless and fierce, is he honest and serious or two faced and malleable
worldly umbra
wait illusion is that map you showed all of the areas or just a prototype?
lean pendant
First of all how DARE you even think of an action that would ruin good bread. Se...
Fun Fact: Sharks hate the taste of human flesh.
light swan
wait illusion is that map you showed all of the areas or just a prototype?
prototype
hybrid flare
ok thats the story of what happened, but who is *he*
Worn down man that tried his best to protect the kingdom but ended up causing the whole quarrel which included the AC usage of void, which ravaged half of the lands serene and now wants to keep the little of the kingdom safe within closed doors and the citizens not knowing the things he comitted and the state of the world
quartz cave
would he go the diplomatic way or do whats best no matter what happens in between
light swan
tbh i was worried the map would be small but this isnt that bad tbh
quartz cave
to get a character right this is what youve got to figure out
the motives the reasoning the personality
scenic yoke
Fun Fact: Sharks hate the taste of human flesh.
Yes, sharks mistake humans for other aquatic mammals which is why people are attacked by sharks. Only like 3 people each year get attacked by sharks
quartz cave
do people know him or is he a mysterious figure at the top
remote osprey
Yes, sharks mistake humans for other aquatic mammals which is why people are att...
i eat sharks
scenic yoke
i eat sharks
what do you mean…
light swan
to get a character right this is what youve got to figure out
well you see we JUST came up with this guy earlier lol
none of this is figured out at all
charred tiger
i eat sharks
remote osprey
what do you mean…
i mean i eat sharks
quartz cave
i tell yall that once you figure out who he is, the name will come easily
hybrid flare
do people know him or is he a mysterious figure at the top
Known before but after accepting the vow he wasnt seen much due to the physical changes the creeping dormant god's influence on him caused
quartz cave
and not only the name but also the story
hybrid flare
i've got him written up i js need his name
quartz cave
if the leader you make is reckless then you inmediatelly know your world has more wars and invasions
hybrid flare
He's not reckless but very desperate
scenic yoke
i mean i eat sharks
If you’re talking about things like shark stew/soup the creation of those are hugely inhumane as sharks are harvested for their fins and then thrown back into the ocean to die of suffocation
quartz cave
i hope yall see my point, basically once you figure out enough about this character to say "what would he do" and be able to respond to that, everything will flow easily
remote osprey
If you’re talking about things like shark stew/soup the creation of those are hu...
no i 1v1 sharks and if they lose i eat them
hybrid flare
he would keep wounding the dormant god that surrounds the kingdom to keep the void at bay but it requires something in exchange and he couldn't bear it no more, starting with giving out his associates before realizing the cost is too high
scenic yoke
no i 1v1 sharks and if they lose i eat them
hybrid flare
and that lead to him locking away the citizens of his kingdom from the outside, and the high command even further out of shame
quartz cave
alright youre starting to paint an image
remote osprey
and if i lose they eat me
quartz cave
good intentions with desperation leads to bad descisions
hybrid flare
shit we need a google doc for ts
quartz cave
now keep building on that
light swan
i could make one but i am swarmed with shit from irl and different servers rn 💔
worldly umbra
i wrote a doc once thats like 17 pages long
light swan
you got this nubbie!