sk-discussion

[terse heart]

guys
dont use plasmium phial with polip pouch

[slender juniper]

Lwk true

[keen solstice]

Don't use pollip pouch*

[old compass]

voltvessel kinda needs some speedrun strats to get its potential out

[terse heart]

vri ragebaitr 💔

[keen solstice]

Throw them all out as boss spawns
Boss fucking explodes

[slender juniper]

Polip pouch is only good on Cogflies

[graceful oyster]

One red and 1 blue. Cogflies do nothing

[keen solstice]

It's not ragebait lmao

Pollip is a waste of a blue slot

[terse heart]

you're a waste of a braincell

[slender juniper]

22%increase to cogfly damage

Tested with raw DPS

[keen solstice]

Says you, lmao.

[slender juniper]

It's shit on everything else

[graceful oyster]

Mehi getting flamed for calling Pollip ass is crazy

[old compass]

yeah but only some bosses

[terse heart]

NOOO

[keen solstice]

Pollip doesn't stack, it deals dogshit damage, it is reset and reapplied on every tool hit

[terse heart]

I FELL INTO THE BILE WATER

[keen solstice]

Pollip is effectively the worst blue tool in the game

[old compass]

ALL ROADS LEAD TO BILEWATER

[keen solstice]

Now do it with 4 cogflies out

[lavish apex]

pollip is alright earlygame and when you're not doing toolspam

[old compass]

pollip does the most important thing and that is add a sound

[lavish apex]

but if either of those conditions are not met yeah it's ass for sure

[opaque sigil]

actually it's impossible to use red tools and not spam them can't be done the problem with red tools is 100% innate and not any lack of creativity or whimsy or joy

[brave salmon]

True

[keen solstice]

Pollip just ends up being dogshit no matter how hard you try

[lavish apex]

how many upgrades is it that you need to max the damage

[delicate sun]

4

[keen solstice]

While voltvessels and curvesickles get to be fucking broken as fuck for no cost whatsoever no matter the crest

Architect as a crest is completely fine

[delicate sun]

Voltvessels and pimpilo

[keen solstice]

It's THOSE TWO tools in particular

[delicate sun]

Breaks the game

[lavish apex]

no on pollip specifically

[delicate sun]

1 pimpilo does 96 dmg

[old compass]

funny how I got neither tool in my first playthrough

[lavish apex]

does it only tick for 3 with 4 upgrades?

[keen solstice]

Architect if red tools weren't so busted wouldn't even be that strong

Compared to beast architect is actually a joke when you compare the crests themselves 😭

[delicate sun]

Dude ppl complain abt how wanderes make the game easy

[old compass]

architect pogo is somehow worse than beast pogo lol

[delicate sun]

Until u see architect

[keen solstice]

Wanderers doesn't

[lavish apex]

ok so it hits 3 damage per tick with 3 crafting kits

[opaque sigil]

yeah and it's dumb

[delicate sun]

It kinda does tbh

[lavish apex]

and maintains that with 4

[keen solstice]

Not really, it's on the lower end interms of performance and beast is just a straight up better wanderer

[scenic yoke]

Okayyy I just found widow and... da fuck

[keen solstice]

People complain about wanderer when architect and beast exist

Specifically beast
Atleast architect has shards as a cost

[old compass]

beast takes time to get used to vro

[delicate sun]

I would rather be dead than glaze beast

[trim estuary]

oh my god bruh most people don’t play the game like a maniac

[lavish apex]

architect is more stupid i think

[keen solstice]

It takes like 5s to learn how to spam bind and facetank tho

[delicate sun]

Shaman is also broken

[odd hull]

Having fun?

[lavish apex]

than beast

[old compass]

I thought beast crest rage ends shortly after if you get hit

[keen solstice]

That's if you can use it properly since it needs more management than hunter

[opaque sigil]

beast can still spam tools

[delicate sun]

But u get it so late game

[lavish apex]

with 3 red tools there are very few bosses that can survive just unloading that with quick sling

[keen solstice]

It doesn't
It's duration is reduced by 2 seconds but you gain duration by healing

[lavish apex]

without even needing to craft bind

[keen solstice]

So you literally end up looping vinds over and over ans over and over and just not die at all while dealing stupid amounts of damage

[old compass]

I guess it's mostly just the pogo

[delicate sun]

But can we all agree reapers crest is ass

[keen solstice]

Even the pogo itself is stupid as fuck but at the very least you have to get used to the spacing required 😭

[old compass]

beast is just a boss killer, I'll give it that. On everything else, no

[keen solstice]

Boss killer, gauntlet obliterater, parkour simplifier

[delicate sun]

Archi pogo sucks but if u have alot of shell shards tht thing is broken

[opaque sigil]

archi pogo doesn't suck

[keen solstice]

The range and hitbox on beast pogo is genuinely fucking wild for platforming

[delicate sun]

Like u can kill karm in 15 sec

[keen solstice]

Sex

[sharp slate]

Parkour simplifier I disagree, if you got claw line you dont need horizontal from beast

[odd hull]

in 15 what

[lavish apex]

ok let's not say beast simplifies parkour

[old compass]

I ain't taking beast glaze in the morning vro, what parkour simplifier

[keen solstice]

Look at the hitbox then come back

You're NOT going to miss with that thing

[delicate sun]

Parkour is shit with beast the first time I got it I went to unequip it

[lavish apex]

this specific example doesn't even care about shards

[keen solstice]

Only in hunters march

[coral latch]

So how is everyone doing

[keen solstice]

Since the pogo targets are set too low

[old compass]

and shellwood

[delicate sun]

And bilewater

[old compass]

yep

[delicate sun]

And blasted steps

[scenic yoke]

Well I'm not in a state of utter fury, so I suppose by silksong standards... Yes

[keen solstice]

Only 1 section
https://youtube.com/shorts/JBHklM7AgmA?si=80_162pUpVeQEOsO

[odd hull]

I'm fine. Playing bloodstained recently and it's cool
And ya?

[keen solstice]

Beast is literally the best for bilewater platforming wtf 😭
Same for blasted steos

[tiny siren]

Top 5 most hated things in silksong for me:

1. Broodmother
2. Groal the great
3. Bilewater
4. Bilewater
5. Bilewater

[keen solstice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iBBPRqYOoT8?si=C_-8YPLOkvy_j94I

[scenic yoke]

So question: What is the best crest to fight Widow?

[delicate sun]

U can't ragebait me

[keen solstice]

It's not ragebait bro

[delicate sun]

Unironically its wanderes or hunters

[keen solstice]

The range LITERALLY throws you right at the pogo target
And the hitbox is literally

[keen solstice]

Neither

[rocky jolt]

silksong if it didnt have crawfather

[lavish apex]

hunter has the advantage of dash attack cancels

[scenic yoke]

Alright...

[keen solstice]

Widow is act 1 so hunter doesn't get it's damage boost
And wanderer is just worse than beast

[odd hull]

Hmm, nice! It's a good fight, but difficulty at this point. Enjoy as you can

[sharp slate]

Best is... a choice of words

[keen solstice]

Beast is the best option for widow at that point of the game

[keen solstice]

Go try it

[unkempt steeple]

Sea of tomorrow

[delicate sun]

Don't listen to this man

[lavish apex]

there is no situatiin where beast is the best crest for platforming

[unkempt steeple]

When is rhe city of steel dlc coming out

[keen solstice]

You don't even need to dash with beast in blasted steps or bilewater

[sharp slate]

I did a full run of beast crest from the start

[lavish apex]

for combat i mean like sure

it can be pretty dumb

[delicate sun]

Parkour is 1000% ragebait

[odd hull]

Not even announced

[sharp slate]

Vertical pogos just simplify shit so much for parkour I cant say beat is best for that area

[lavish apex]

but it's just way more intuitive to use like every other pogo besides architect's

[keen solstice]

Unlike first sinner beast can easily gain silk against widow since she barely teleports letting you outdamage everything at that point of the game

[umbral pivot]

it’s time to rebeat last judge wish me luck

[terse heart]

those blasted steps!

[old compass]

DO HITLESS I BELIEVE

[odd hull]

GLHF!

[keen solstice]

They don't really simplify blasted steps or bilewater since you need to constantly dash to the next target

[coral latch]

I'm good too, I'm replaying Silksong and really enjoying it

[umbral pivot]

ah yes that’ll be easy

[lavish apex]

you also don't need to do that with hunter

[keen solstice]

Did a run with shaman crest for the entire game and half the sections were easier and half were harder

[odd hull]

Nice, doing some challenge or just a casual run?

[keen solstice]

Bilewater was on the harder side because of the gap between pogo targets

[coral latch]

Why the fuck is it getting overwhelmingly negative reviews??

[lavish apex]

that is a fake screenshot

[keen solstice]

Though clawline kinda solves it anyways

[coral latch]

Casual run for now

[unkempt steeple]

Announce it then

[lavish apex]

it takes like 5 seconds to check

[old compass]

JUDGEMENT, COURT DAY

[coral latch]

?

[old compass]

you didn't get to crawfather yet?

[coral latch]

Oh I see now XD

I'm stupid, don't mind me lmao

[delicate sun]

Yeah no shit thts why beast is shit for platforming

[odd hull]

After Sea of Sorrow, maybe

[coral latch]

I have I just dont remember all the names yet

[terse heart]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[delicate sun]

I want sea of sorrow man

[keen solstice]

?
How does clawlines existence make beast bad for platforming
That's like saying every crest is bad for platforming because of clawline

[keen solstice]

This is doable on every single crest except shaman and wanderer.

[coral latch]

Honestly that looks satisfying lmao

[lavish apex]

going through hunter's march and getting beast before widow is harder than just beating widow with a different crest

so i would say it's not the best one for her

[unkempt steeple]

I want it NOW

[old compass]

I sense architect slander and beast glaze at the same time

[rocky jolt]

boss name is activate windows

[coral latch]

So what's all gonna be in SoS?

[delicate sun]

U need clawline to solve a problem because the pogoing is shit

[odd hull]

Have fun

[coral latch]

Ty ^^

[old compass]

IDK but we think lifeblood is getting its chance to shine

[delicate sun]

A new crest

[keen solstice]

Except you don't, beast pogo is basically another clawline and arguably a better one unless you can't get enough height.

[coral latch]

Sounds interesting

[unkempt steeple]

We don't reallt know but like, atleast one new area, new tools and an (uncomfirmed) new crest

[keen solstice]

Beast pogo has a far better hitbox than clawline and is far safer

[odd hull]

Type of greed they talked about in the bible

[unkempt steeple]

Not confirmed yet just a guess from the trailer

[coral latch]

Also Widow is one of my favorite bosses in the game

[keen solstice]

Clawline is great for witch and hunter however

[unkempt steeple]

Yes

I want all the dlcs NOW

[old compass]

GIVE IT

[keen solstice]

I need team cherry to nerf beast and red tools

[odd hull]

What's confirmed

[lavish apex]

most of the casual fanbase already think beast sucks

[coral latch]

Cool also it's next year?

[keen solstice]

Casuals suck

We don't talk about them

[unkempt steeple]

Oh areas plural...

[coral latch]

Hey I'm a casual

[unkempt steeple]

Casuals are goated

[keen solstice]

They think reaper and pollip are good 😭

[odd hull]

It was announced in late 2025. So the post talks about 2026

[unkempt steeple]

Competitive silksong is too sweaty

[coral latch]

Ah oki cool ^^

[rocky jolt]

competing for who has the least bitches

[old compass]

PRESSING THE CHALLENGE BUTTON DOES WHAT!??!

[rocky jolt]

aggro

[old compass]

INCREASE 50% DAMAGE FOR LIKE 5 SECONDS??!?!?

[keen solstice]

For 1 hit

[coral latch]

Anyways back to my replay ^^

[opaque sigil]

Elitism over the bug game is crazy

[odd hull]

Cool pose and calls close enemies next to you

[coral latch]

I'm in Greymoor rn

[old compass]

that's such a niche detail what the hell TC they really be taking all their time

[old compass]

yeah I know that I'm refering to the 50% damage increase for like 2 seconds

[keen solstice]

It only increases your damage for one hit

[delicate sun]

Dash attack does two needle worth of damage

[keen solstice]

Only witch dash attack

The rest do the same as a single nail hit

[rocky jolt]

mechanics you can only discover if you get an hp bar mod

[lavish apex]

i mean no

[delicate sun]

Even hunters

[keen solstice]

Hunters doesn't

[delicate sun]

It lit does

[lavish apex]

there are other way to notice something doing more damage

[keen solstice]

Except it literally doesn't

[lavish apex]

hunter dash attack doesn't have a damage boost

[keen solstice]

Hunter has higher needle damage due to its passive

[rocky jolt]

pretty hard to notice

[keen solstice]

But its dash attack doesn't deal more damage

[delicate sun]

It does 2 needle worth of damage for every crest

[lavish apex]

the closest thing is that you can attack right after it hits

[keen solstice]

Are you ragebaiting atp

Literally only witch dash attack does 2x needle damage

[lavish apex]

i don't think other crests are capable of doing this in the same way but i'm not certain

it's really good for tall grounded things

[delicate sun]

I think ur talking abt pogos

[keen solstice]

The only pogo that deals more damage than normal is architect charged pogo

Every other pogi deals normal damage

Except hunter and beast since they deal higher damage per hit

[delicate sun]

dude it lit does

i just checked

[lavish apex]

you are just lying

[keen solstice]

Do you have a healthbar mod

Or are you pulling shit out of your ass

[delicate sun]

ya

how do i send it here

[keen solstice]

Literally just take a clip of doing it

[lavish apex]

no image perms

[delicate sun]

How do I get image perms bruh

[wary raptor]

There is no way that I can hitless ll twice in a row but struggle with cogwork dancers bro

[trim estuary]

300 messages

Only one message a minute counts

[delicate sun]

Bruh

I will just send it in silk help ig

[keen solstice]

Hunter normal attack deals 21
32 with focus level 2

Hunter dash attack deals 21
32 with focus level 2

[trim estuary]

Don’t do that. You will anger the Spoiler Bot

[white sinew]

damn

[wary raptor]

So empty in these halls

[white sinew]

high?

[exotic dome]

that's 2 attacks

[white sinew]

?

[exotic dome]

you do 2 attacks with the dash attack

[keen solstice]

That's literally dash+normal attack 😭

[white sinew]

no thats charge attack

[lavish apex]

ok it wasn't ragebait he's just dumb or esl

[white sinew]

i am dumb

whats happening

[lavish apex]

not you sorry

[white sinew]

[wary raptor]

No it's ok

You are dumb

[white sinew]

lol

[coral latch]

I got a question

[wary raptor]

what do you want from me mom

[proud plume]

guys is it mandatory to buy shakras quill for act 3?

[wary raptor]

no

[coral latch]

Which game is your favorite? the first Hollow Knight or Silksong?

[exotic cedar]

No

[wary raptor]

silkson

[coral latch]

The reddit sub seems to prefer the first HK

[wary raptor]

Okay

[lavish apex]

hk

[proud plume]

ima get purple one bet then

[wary raptor]

I couldnt

[white sinew]

also sharpdart plus attack is high damage if youre using volt filament and barbed bracelet

[wary raptor]

I missed getting the quill once and I couldn't get it from tormented trobbio

[white sinew]

im sorry

[wary raptor]

No don't be sorry

[white sinew]

lol

[wary raptor]

You are a beautiful awesome cool person

[white sinew]

me?

[wary raptor]

yes, you

[white sinew]

nah

[wary raptor]

don't doubt yourself

[delicate sun]

Ss

[white sinew]

both

[odd hull]

Silksong

[wary raptor]

She song my silk till i shaw

[odd hull]

Neither is my favorite oat, of course

[coral latch]

Ye I agree

[white sinew]

i played silksong first so now i prefer hk

[coral latch]

They're my top 2 favorite games

[old compass]

HK is on my profile as fav and it will stay that way till the end

[lavish apex]

same

[white sinew]

but im in act 3 now so ye

[wary raptor]

My top 2 oat is ln1 and 2 because im a little loser

[white sinew]

so currently silksong

[coral latch]

What do you guys think of the Lost Lace final boss fight?

[wary raptor]

I LOVE IT SO MUCH

[white sinew]

pain

[wary raptor]

OMGOMGOGMG LOST LACE MENTION AHHH

[old compass]

dang that means some parts of silksong you won't get immediately

[wary raptor]

SHES MY FAVORITE OAT

IM GOING TO JUMP AND PRANCE AROUND

[lavish apex]

silksong does some things better but there's too much i dislike about it for it to overtake hk, even though i adore it still

[coral latch]

Are you messing with me?

[wary raptor]

NO

[coral latch]

Hmmm

[wary raptor]

I LOVE LOST LACE OS MCUCHCH CUEHWAUABABDHWAHDBAWHDHABFGUWEJFWNKWLBN

[white sinew]

i lost my save after third phase and needed to restart my whole playthrough😢

[delicate sun]

Hk has dlc which makes it better than ss tbh

[odd hull]

Oooh, really? I have a bunch on my list before both (after top 5 it's kinda hard to decide tbh)

[old compass]

I love lost lace so much I defeated her 5 times in a roll

[delicate sun]

But besides that I like ss more

[white sinew]

[wary raptor]

dude same

[coral latch]

Deltarune is 3rd

[old compass]

did you also do tooless hitless needle only

[wary raptor]

Unpopular opinion hk abyss> ss abyss

[coral latch]

Some say she's underwhelming but I disagree

[wary raptor]

Okay I'm sorry geez I only did hitless also if you say needle only you don't have to include 'tooless'

[old compass]

💔

[odd hull]

They're eh equally. But Silksong puts more expectations about it and doesn't deliver as much, I think

[fringe mountain]

I just beat the first sinner and all I got was a silk skill

[wary raptor]

You think?

[coral latch]

Which true final boss do you guys prefer? Radiance or Lost Lace

[fringe mountain]

Seriously.

[delicate sun]

Radiance

[odd hull]

Ya

[wary raptor]

The fight was worth it though because it's good

[delicate sun]

Is that even a question

[wary raptor]

Guess. Literally. Guess.

[old compass]

silksong abyss is ok, it gave me the sensation of "I can't see shit" and I feel like that's enough

[coral latch]

I actually enjoy the Abyss in both games equality, so it's not "eh" to me XD

[delicate sun]

Like lit from the start of hk u hear abt the infection

[fringe mountain]

It was a very fun fight reminds me of lace 2 and cogwork dancers but faster

[odd hull]

But honestly the abyss is kinda underwhelming in any way. God, I dislike hk lore in general

[coral latch]

Lost Lace?

[delicate sun]

While silksong oh no it's the same boss fight third time

[wary raptor]

Yeah I think it's fine although imo the bugs are astoundingly worse than several other areas I hate combined (not including putrified ducts)

[coral latch]

I uh...I don't..also don't act like that plz

[wary raptor]

Yes sir

[odd hull]

Hmmm, you got a cutscene too

[coral latch]

I love the story and lore in both games

[fringe mountain]

Tbh as a fight that’s like separated from both games and sealed in a vacuum definitely lost lace

[odd hull]

Like what?

[fringe mountain]

Radiance is not fun to fight at all

[coral latch]

Just how you're like "ugh, I HATE the lore"

[coral latch]

I disagree, all of the final bosses are fun to fight imo

[wary raptor]

Hoow do you say something like 'i dislike hk lore in general' without feeling intense guilt to go to everybody's grave and apologize for such a sentence

[odd hull]

Good for ya

[patent warren]

widow i hate her

[delicate sun]

Radiance >>>> lost lace

[wary raptor]

no

[scenic yoke]

Back

[odd hull]

lmao what

[coral latch]

She's a fun boss too

[odd hull]

Helo!

[scenic yoke]

I'm gonna attempt to fight Widow for the second time

[old compass]

oooooo, silk skill
*tries it
dang dis garbage *never use it ever again

[wary raptor]

good luckness

[fringe mountain]

I think I just like faster paced fights with more fleshed out attacks like widow first sinner sisters of battle lace etc

[scenic yoke]

I'll record the 2nd fight

[wary raptor]

lost lace

[odd hull]

I said I don't like it. What's the problem?

[wary raptor]

you dont like it

That is the problem

[odd hull]

How is this a problem

[coral latch]

Widow, Hornet fights, Lace fights, First Sinner, Sisters of Battle, Pure Vessel, Hollow Knight, Radiance, Silk, both Grimm fights and Lost Lace are some of my favorites

[delicate sun]

Ngl broodmother best fight

[stark estuary]

Just ignore them

[coral latch]

Nvm I'm sorry

[wary raptor]

yes dude

[stark estuary]

HK fans can’t read or acknowledge that TC are bad writers

[fringe mountain]

The fights in Silksong have so much more creative freedom it’s why they’re so much better imo

[coral latch]

No I took their tone the wrong way, I'm sorry

[wary raptor]

I do not harness this ragebait

[opaque sigil]

do I almost feel fear

[coral latch]

Huh??

Are you guys really trying to mess with me?!

I'm about sick of it

[stark estuary]

Shiver me timbers

[odd hull]

True

[old compass]

me when I discover a secret breakable wall, only for it to reveal lore and no other rewards:

[fringe mountain]

Tbh the hollow knight lore is okay

[wary raptor]

no

[lavish apex]

tc are the writers of all time

[coral latch]

Honestly I love discovering more lore

[wary raptor]

yes

[lavish apex]

they definitely wrote lore for their games

[stark estuary]

The boss quality in SS is generally higher but that’s not really saying a whole lot

[lavish apex]

it exists for sure

[old compass]

yeah I get it but for me it's like
*finds lore

[stark estuary]

The like vast majority of HK bosses are garbage filler

[delicate sun]

Man I want a godmaster dlc in silksong

[old compass]

*doesn;t udnerstand it

[wary raptor]

we all do

[fringe mountain]

Watcher knights…

[lavish apex]

i don't think vast majority is fair

[coral latch]

I cant take this anymore, most of you guys here are ragebaiters and haters

[odd hull]

[lavish apex]

there are a good amount though

[fringe mountain]

Most are filler yeah there’s only like 4 mandatory bosses

[stark estuary]

It is the vast majority you can pull up a boss list and count them yourself

[coral latch]

Stop ragebaiting plz

[odd hull]

Okyy, it's fine

[scenic yoke]

I posted my second fight in SK-Help

[delicate sun]

Watcher knight is lit high halls but better

[lavish apex]

i mean i have and i disagree lol

[opaque sigil]

yeah that's a stretch

[coral latch]

I'm just gonna go

[opaque sigil]

there's also a buncha stuff that's just sorta mid but makes sense for where it is

[rocky igloo]

who needs coffee when you can rebeat lost lace instead right

[coral latch]

Man you guys are worse than Deltarune fans

[stark estuary]

Boring filler

[delicate sun]

Besides nkg , grim , pure vessel and radiance every boss is way better in ss

[opaque sigil]

boring filler vs one off weird encounter you're just lacking in whimsy

[lavish apex]

if you're referring to stuff like the warrior dreams and flukemarm/oblobbles/mossy/guardians then that's fair but that's not really vast majority

[coral latch]

I agree with that...

[rocky igloo]

sisters of battle are literally goated though

[opaque sigil]

lmao no ss has some true garbage

[delicate sun]

FUCK I FORGOT ABT THEM

Better clover dancers

[coral latch]

Honestly alot of the bosses in SS, all the final bosses and those are my favorites

[lavish apex]

ss has bad bosses that are more viscerally unpleasant stupid dogshit than just boring

but it also has some that are just boring

[rocky igloo]

also lowkey I enjoy the uumuu fight in hall of gods

[delicate sun]

Leave broodmother

[scenic yoke]

@odd hull I posted my second fight against widow in Sk-help... Feel free to laugh at me

[lavish apex]

but they are MOSTLY varying degrees of good

[fringe mountain]

First sinner peak fight

[exotic dome]

savage beastfly 2 is ranked #928882 in the all time boss ranking

[coral latch]

😓

[stark estuary]

BM CG Flukemarm GT GM VK MMC Nosk Oblobbles SW Uumuu literally every single Warrior Dream ok bro that’s only like 70% of the bosses in the game

[odd hull]

I'll check it up in a minute

[opaque sigil]

soul warrior is literally fine

[stark estuary]

SS also has a lot of garbage bosses obviously

[exotic dome]

what caused them to add a second beastfly fight i wonder

[lavish apex]

soul warrior is literally a miniboss

[stark estuary]

Is that the only one from that list that’s fine

[opaque sigil]

wanted a fetch quest

[stark estuary]

It’s a nothing encounter

[opaque sigil]

[lavish apex]

mawlek is fine

[exotic dome]

oh true wishslop

[coral latch]

I'm really sick of the toxic people, negative people and ragebaiters...

[lavish apex]

nosk is also fine

[odd hull]

I didn't dislike beastfly by itself originally, but every time I think about it, the content reuse is so lame.

[opaque sigil]

nosk is pretty weak for a deepnest boss

[lavish apex]

idr what half of those acronyms stand for

[exotic dome]

both games have equal amount of bad bosses, but silksongs good bosses are better and bad bosses are worse

[stark estuary]

Mawlek has two attacks Nosk is a fun encounter but pretty weak boss fight

[exotic dome]

i agree, i usually hate that

[lavish apex]

mawlek has 4 attacks

big spit, small spit, slash, jump

[stark estuary]

I mean HK’s “bad bosses” are way less offensive and idk if I agree with SS’ best fights being superior to HK’s

[delicate sun]

I have hatred towards no eyes

[opaque sigil]

no eyes is terrible

[exotic dome]

especially if early game bosses are reused as normal enemies in the late game (looking at dark souls)

[stark estuary]

Every Warrior Dream sucks ass

[opaque sigil]

waiter waiter more capra demons

[exotic dome]

500000 flexile sentry in my bastille please

[opaque sigil]

there's one flexile sentry

[exotic dome]

still a lot

[lavish apex]

hate this take

[opaque sigil]

most warrior dreams suck ass

[stark estuary]

Which one doesn’t suck ass

[opaque sigil]

I might be the only xero enjoyer but galien is also fun

[exotic dome]

i never liked any of them

[lavish apex]

galien

[delicate sun]

I lost 2 of my steel soul attempts to fucking no eyes

[lavish apex]

no i like xero too

[delicate sun]

😭😭

[lavish apex]

no eyes i don't hate actually

[terse heart]

what makes her leave and give me the lost merchant questline

[stark estuary]

No Eyes is like the worst boss in the game what

[delicate sun]

Xero and elder hu dude

[exotic dome]

maybe gorb is ok but that's a stretch

[stark estuary]

Elder Hu is garbage

[opaque sigil]

gorb is ok

[lavish apex]

no that's uumuu or marmu

gorb is whatever

[delicate sun]

Talking to her and doing a time passes elsewhere which is basically just letting quitting in another area and coming back

[worldly fractal]

what happened to markoth

[old compass]

idk, just do stuff and she leave eventually. I feel like spoilers will ruin the surprise

[opaque sigil]

at worst uumuu is like as bad as no eyes

[stark estuary]

No Eyes is worse

[lavish apex]

asckoth is also worse

[terse heart]

I've beaten the game before in act 3

[old compass]

oh ok nvm

[exotic dome]

no eyes is a contender too, but i agree marmu is worse

[delicate sun]

Can we talk abt markoth

[exotic dome]

markoth is ass in godhome

in overworld it's mid

[opaque sigil]

markoth is ok

[worldly fractal]

which one

[opaque sigil]

both

[delicate sun]

What is even the worst boss in hk

[opaque sigil]

no eyes

[delicate sun]

Besides no eyes

[exotic dome]

uumuu

[old compass]

Xeno: exists
Me: WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS HOW MUCH I HATE YOU

[delicate sun]

Uk whats the worst boss in hk

Flower quest

[odd hull]

I don't mind too much finding lore – can be cool, really –, but if the writing isn't that great to me I'll eventually lose interest

[worldly fractal]

dream gate is allowed and elevators dont break the flower so not that bad in my opinion

still annoying tho

[old compass]

DREAM GATE IS WHAT

[exotic dome]

pious isamor room was cool

[trim estuary]

dreamgate is not allowed lmao

[delicate sun]

ALLOWED HUH

[light swan]

Xeno: blade
me: talk all you want… because those words will BE YOUR LAAAASTTTT

[worldly fractal]

as in u can use it to get back

[opaque sigil]

pious isamor is cool

[old compass]

oh

[trim estuary]

you can return using dreamgate but teleporting with the flower in hand will break it

[worldly fractal]

not allowed

[worldly fractal]

bad wording from me

[exotic dome]

xeroblade groalicles

[delicate sun]

Wtf i went thru pain 😭

[worldly fractal]

yalls i found an extremely fun and enjoyable mod called mucked beastfly

[opaque sigil]

'fun' 'enjoyable' 'beastfly' nice try

[exotic dome]

unironically better than beastfly 2 btw

[opaque sigil]

so is flaying myself

[light swan]

xerobrood groniclaces 3

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-thinking-in-though-agreeing-gif-8805500278928097826

[light swan]

sea of sorrow

[delicate sun]

Imma lowk start a new ss save

[odd hull]

Have fun

[worldly fractal]

calm down let tc have their needed 3 years

[fiery burrow]

asckoth is good

[graceful oyster]

Survive my experiments

[exotic dome]

weaver experiment 2 my fav ost

[opaque sigil]

yes praetor

[vernal iron]

I WANT THE DLC RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[light swan]

jin isnt the praetor

[terse heart]

does anyone have the safest way to reach great taste of pharloom rashers

[light swan]

jin killed the praetor

[exotic dome]

shellwood->blasted steps->citadel

[odd hull]

Uh, kill everybody in the path before accepting the quest. Will be very safe

[fiery burrow]

ts is so tuff

[exotic dome]

abyss shriek video is tuffer

[graceful oyster]

For this your sinews will be strung across my newest apparatus and plucked to discern the biorhythm of your soul into workable material. You will be made useful.

[fiery burrow]

true

[terse heart]

why are we talking about anything but silksong here

[exotic dome]

we were talking about sk/hk bosses 5 mins ago

[terse heart]

but what about now?

[worldly fractal]

skong

[hardy tangle]

lets not talk about silksong to piss this guy off

[old compass]

let us talk about sinners road

[delicate sun]

Sinners road exhaust organ citadel

[opaque sigil]

now we should talk about how music box is a goated relic for forge builds

[exotic dome]

lets talk about mi-

[graceful oyster]

Minecraft

[delicate sun]

Thrs wisp thicket also if u feel like it

Thru trobbio elevator

[exotic dome]

wisp thicket is the most dangerous

[odd hull]

[light swan]

spooper

[delicate sun]

Nah it's blasted steps cuz everything attacks u

[rocky jolt]

kid named the spire 2

[worldly fractal]

more everything attacks u in deepnest

even the bench

[terse heart]

okay youre clear

[delicate sun]

U beat phantom alrdy right?

[terse heart]

yes

[lavish apex]

contender for my favorite scene in any game ever

anyways

[graceful oyster]

You're also going on the sinew doohickey

[patent warren]

widow whyy

[exotic dome]

what game is this

[lavish apex]

my hot take about hk1 bosses
yes a lot of them are pretty simplistic and boring but i don't think the game is lacking for boss content that isn't that at all, and most of the encounters that people point at and say "this is ass" are just effectively silly oneoff minibosses that don't really overstay their welcome

[old compass]

I feel like HK has more bosses than SK

[fiery burrow]

kinda true everyone should direct their ire towards the enemy combat

[lavish apex]

silksong does still, for the most part, improve in that department though

[light swan]

and thats what happens with silksong too

[graceful oyster]

If you don't count all the repeats in Skong then HK has more

[exotic dome]

mandatory bosses are fine in both games

[light swan]

thats why so many of my boss tier list are in the "give 0 shits" category

[rocky jolt]

chatgpt generate me 5 bosses that everyone will rank as their favorites

[hardy tangle]

silksong bosses have higher quality

[lavish apex]

mandatory bosses in silksong are almost universally bangers even if you extend that into act 3

[old compass]

no shit vro

[fiery burrow]

Why does Mio have an undeniable top 5

[exotic cedar]

Lost lace
Radiance
Nkg
Pv
Absrad

[opaque sigil]

who is the undeniable top 5

[graceful oyster]

Sans, Radiance, Ender Dragon, Sans, and Shriek

[old compass]

ur ai slop bores me

[rocky jolt]

nkg and karmelita are interchangeable

[lavish apex]

it's harder to quantify what "mandatory" means in hk1 since it's less linear but uumuu is certainly one of them and it does unfortunately suck

[hardy tangle]

meet me at the cafeteria at 2 mate

[exotic dome]

lets see false knight, mantis lords, broken vessel, watcher knights, dung defender(?), uhh i forgot i need to replay hk man

[exotic cedar]

People also really like seth

[hardy tangle]

why do people like absrad

[exotic dome]

it's goood

[fiery burrow]

||s&v the final bosses halyn and uhh nabuu or something||

[light swan]

id say its an undeniable top 3, top 4 and 5 vary

[rocky jolt]

broken vessel and lost kin are so fun bro

[old compass]

me getting into college vro, we have kitchens instead

[hardy tangle]

hes good but not up there

[lavish apex]

most of them are punching bags but i prefer a bunch of punching bags to flintflame flyers and wraiths

[light swan]

the fact you had to "uhh"

[lavish apex]

that said silksong Does have some banger enemies

[fiery burrow]

||Nabuu|| is kinda debatable but no one is debating the 4

[terse heart]

just did couriers rashers

2nd try

[rocky jolt]

seth is fun but not anything that blows me away like crawfather

[opaque sigil]

I mean arguably ||snv are overtuned||

[harsh yarrow]

Silksongs combat is just better than HKs

[light swan]

idk ive seen some people debate top 4

[exotic dome]

yeah this is exactly my top 5

[fiery burrow]

Nah they work fr

[lavish apex]

like most of the enemies in the citadel are pretty good

[delicate sun]

I kinda gotta disagree

[hardy tangle]

my fav mio bosses goog jorg morg log and kok

[light swan]

tammo thinks the cat is there i think

grynne thinks door is there

[harsh yarrow]

HK, your lucky if an enemy has more than 2 attacks

[delicate sun]

Quick slash + mark of pride

[lavish apex]

i'm of the rare freak breed that prefers hk combat but it's not by much

[opaque sigil]

well that's like 60% a joke

[exotic dome]

door is fun but nah

[light swan]

anyway who brought mio into chat this time 😡

[lavish apex]

i mean like at least on the player side that is

[fiery burrow]

||their gimmick forces you to reevaluate your build and they make up for it with being relatively simple to dodge||

[opaque sigil]

hk spells rock

[lavish apex]

yeah

[fiery burrow]

who tf is the cat

[light swan]

the one whos name is a cat

[fiery burrow]

door is reasonable I can see that

[rocky jolt]

i said generate me 5 bosses people like and some guy brought up mio

truly the sk discussion moment

[exotic dome]

sk should've had something like vengeful spirit maybe

[fiery burrow]

oh its too early game and simple to be a top 5 imo but its good yeah

[harsh yarrow]

...it does

[opaque sigil]

it has silk spear

[harsh yarrow]

its called Silkspear

Which, arguably, just as useful

[exotic dome]

true im an idiot

[harsh yarrow]

the only thing it doesnt do are stallballs

[hardy tangle]

silk spear has no aura though

[exotic dome]

im forgetting silksong

[opaque sigil]

you also probably don't have silk spear equipped

[exotic dome]

it has aura

[fiery burrow]

does silkspear even work like a boomerang

[delicate sun]

I want my ddark

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/cdD7e1Fa0Hn.gif

[hardy tangle]

its just her needle attached to some string

[exotic dome]

no i used it a lot

[worldly fractal]

ddark is something i dearly miss from hollow knight

[harsh yarrow]

I far perfer Silksongs spells, its a bit sad not having 3 at any time

[lost crescent]

lol

[worldly fractal]

shaman

[harsh yarrow]

but they're actually somewhat balanced

[lavish apex]

enemy side combat in silksong is better i would say, and so are needle interactions when you compare them to nail because of the more fluid movement and stuff like hunter pogo/dash attacks

[delicate sun]

Shaman exists

[exotic dome]

true

[light swan]

shouldve given us void filament

[exotic dome]

can we remove tools and equip 3 spells for all crests

[harsh yarrow]

yes, it does, its the only crest that offers 3 spells at a time

[lavish apex]

but i personally like spells way more than either red tools or silk skills and the healing systems are roughly on par for very different reasons

[harsh yarrow]

The answer to a boss isnt "spam DDark"

[graceful oyster]

Has anyone ever beaten Lost Lace using only memory crystal

[fiery burrow]

why are 2 of the spells just larping as PV

[hardy tangle]

replace every tool slot with spells

[worldly fractal]

shaman is a hk spell build wanderer is a hk nail build

[delicate sun]

Sharpdart is my fav spell in silksong

[fiery burrow]

I can larp as a shaman instead

[exotic dome]

both spell systems are fine except for ai rage

[harsh yarrow]

So many tools are also just HK charms but actually useful

Like, Warding Bell

its just Baulder Shell but useful

[lavish apex]

baldur shell is better than warding bell

[worldly fractal]

sharpdart+dash+beast pogo=potential triple dash?

[old compass]

druids eye is somehow grub some cut in half

[delicate sun]

The tool system is way more balanced than charm system

[lavish apex]

warding bell sucks

[fiery burrow]

wtf

[graceful oyster]

I love that silksong takes so many things from hk, like act 3 is so cool with all the subtle references it makes to the og game

[light swan]

it is?

[exotic dome]

trash vs garbage (team cherry balancing)

[lavish apex]

yes unironically

[hardy tangle]

glowing womb vs wispfire lantern

[harsh yarrow]

Its infinite, it deals some damage, and protects you from damage in healing

[rocky jolt]

no because warding bell lasts a little after you heal

[light swan]

bbut baldur shell doesnt deal damage

[radiant brook]

im tryna do the speed run achievment rn

[lavish apex]

because healing is harder in that game

[exotic dome]

i just realized you are grynne

[lavish apex]

me too what

[fiery burrow]

sneaky

[lavish apex]

fucker

[radiant brook]

i have 1:30 and just beat widow how am i doing?

[lavish apex]

changed layouts right under our noses

[opaque sigil]

it took you that long

[graceful oyster]

No idea what you guys are talking about iirc

[exotic dome]

concord vs highguard

[graceful oyster]

Anyway I love act 3

[fiery burrow]

i cried at lost lace

[exotic dome]

do i almost feel fear???????????

[opaque sigil]

it can't love you back

[harsh yarrow]

sometimes, I forget why I dislike this server, than I remember its way too often "HK good Silksong bad" with absolute refusal to consider any nuances ;3

[lavish apex]

the blue/yellow tool system is more balanced but not in a way that i care about in the slightest

[graceful oyster]

No Silksong is awesome

[fiery burrow]

they're both good

[graceful oyster]

Probably my favorite game ever

[light swan]

woah

[exotic dome]

i think sk is better

[light swan]

oh nvm

[opaque sigil]

this is like totally not an accurate description of the conversation at all

[harsh yarrow]

And Silksong has its issues, but sometimes this server really feels like it refuses to look at what it does well

[exotic dome]

hey

[graceful oyster]

[harsh yarrow]

Unless its all a massive ragebait that I fell for

[worldly fractal]

is skong better or silksong(sk or ss)

[fiery burrow]

this one is funny but no one talks about this one for some reason and it actually cracks me up

Even if only your shadow remains, to release your mother's grip my blade would see it slain.

[rocky jolt]

its true tho

[fringe mountain]

Act 3 is my wife that puts out cigarettes on my arm and financially abuses me but at the same time kisses me every night so my love for her keeps me in the loop of abuse

[fiery burrow]

yea this chat is kinda negative i get it

[lavish apex]

because the removal of notches means that in order for them to even look balanced in comparison to each other they have to almost all be kinda weak, and that means the ones that are obviously good still overshadow the buns ones

[fiery burrow]

wonder who's causing all of that

[exotic dome]

i agree sometimes it's too much

[old compass]

Act 3 is when void and I go AAAAAAHHHH VOID *architect spam

[graceful oyster]

Can't be me I love silksong

[light swan]

i want cimdy to finish their game already

[fiery burrow]

True Jin Gitaxias

[worldly fractal]

yalls this is sk discussion keep it like that

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/one-shot-mushroom-mushroom-oneshot-darksouls-gif-19520559

[exotic dome]

constantly seeing "x game mogs silksong" or smth started to feel corny ngl

[opaque sigil]

this chat is at its worst when it's talking about silksong

[graceful oyster]

True yeah I hate people that talk about other games

[rocky jolt]

its never at its best

[exotic cedar]

Is this the fungal wastes experience

[graceful oyster]

Like, go to hk meme or something with that garbage

[light swan]

i want cimdy and zerograme to finish their games

[rocky jolt]

love big mushroom enemies

[onyx python]

why he punching

[worldly fractal]

yknow maybe they should make a channel for both hk and sk

[opaque sigil]

mt fay should've been covered in mycelium and not done the cold stuff it would've been way cooler

[exotic dome]

fungal peak

[onyx python]

make sk both hk and sk talk

[worldly fractal]

hornet loves sniffing shrooms

[worldly fractal]

it already is

[onyx python]

like genuinely why cant we talk about the game that came before the sequel 🥀

[fringe mountain]

Guys realistically with no bias would you rather a lace game to be next or a quirrel game

[opaque sigil]

neither

[light swan]

lace

[fiery burrow]

All in on fearless fox

[exotic dome]

pinmaster plinny game

[lone crag]

hi

[graceful oyster]

Oh I so dearly hope they make a Lace game, she has so much potential as an MC

[exotic cedar]

Would be better if it was about me

[terse heart]

secret room

[fiery burrow]

Would a Lace game have you like constantly following Hornet

[worldly fractal]

SHERMA GAME

[lavish apex]

as opposed to spam red tools

[fiery burrow]

How is she gonna get silk to survive

[onyx python]

tbh i think it would make more sense for a lace game

[fiery burrow]

red tool spam is overblown lowk

[onyx python]

unless if the quirrel game was like super story focused

[fiery burrow]

its mostly like quick kills

[lone crag]

i don't even remember who quirrel was so i'll go with lace

[exotic dome]

big hype on the weary pilgrim game

[opaque sigil]

so is ddark spam

[fiery burrow]

well yeah

[old compass]

screw lace qurriel prequal when

[harsh yarrow]

DDark just gives you a silly amount of Iframes for what it is

[onyx python]

because i doubt that it'd be possible to make a decent combat with a guy that struggled with a protector hornet 😭

[fringe mountain]

Magic retcon that allows her to generate silk now

[fiery burrow]

just scale down the power level

[exotic dome]

ddark so op it's funny

[worldly umbra]

quirrel

[exotic cedar]

We need a game about lurien ♥️

[worldly fractal]

a mr mushroom game would be peak

[exotic dome]

say cryptic shit and launch into the moon every 10 minutes

[graceful oyster]

Did you say magic

[opaque sigil]

mm doesn't do anything it would just be a walking sim

[worldly fractal]

a mr mushroom walking sim

and flying sim

[light swan]

i feel like gathering rn

[fiery burrow]

if there's another HK game it needs to be a spinoff that's something really funny like a grand strategy game

[worldly umbra]

a game about silk twice in a row would be kinda unoriginal dont you think

[exotic dome]

grand reed game where a spider kills you every 10 seconds for rosaries

[graceful oyster]

That's what I'm thinking

[odd hull]

Lace will be constantly kidnapping Weavers during the game

[fiery burrow]

Almost like a game about soul twice in a row

[light swan]

no but heres my idea for Hollow Knight: Lacelight

[exotic dome]

hallownest universalis

[worldly umbra]

we need a hollow knight run game like hollow run where the knight runs from hornet

[umbral pivot]

rebeat last judge on my second attempt. i’ve improved

[exotic cedar]

Stagway surfers

[worldly umbra]

it rhymes peak 🥺

[fringe mountain]

I think lace would use another primary recourse since she fully uses silk to sustain her life

[lavish apex]

and red tools are a silly amount of free damage attached to a currency instead of being balanced in a good way

[rocky jolt]

they gonna name it some shit like hollow knight: fartbound and not have an actual hollow knight in it

[exotic dome]

ultrarealistic hallownest tram simulator game

[worldly fractal]

you think team cherry and red candle would be a good teamup for a game

[lone crag]

i didn't like nine sols

[exotic dome]

"discover a vast kingdom ruled by fart and bound"

[exotic cedar]

Make team cherry do the areas and make rcg do everything else

[fringe mountain]

The only balanced ones are plasmium phial and delvers drill

[graceful oyster]

Chinese players review bombed both games so I think they'd get along

[worldly fractal]

the parry in hk would be peak in my opinion

[exotic dome]

why did they reviewbomb 9sols

[worldly umbra]

other than a metroidvania what other genre could hk translate well into

[opaque sigil]

they do that

[rocky jolt]

and then the main antagonist is a pale higher being that just farts all day long

[graceful oyster]

Political reasons

[fiery burrow]

bad game

[odd hull]

9sols devs are taiwanese iirc

[graceful oyster]

Rcg is Taiwanese

[fringe mountain]

Delvers drill is so damn good

[exotic dome]

that's a waste of time

[worldly umbra]

its fun too

[exotic cedar]

A shooter game where hornet has multiple guns and kills everyone in pharloom because like... why not?

[fringe mountain]

Not in a broken way it’s just so good and balanced and fun to play

[worldly umbra]

damn illusion's been typing for a while i think he has a peak idea

[light swan]

Hollow Knight: Lacelight

Takes place in Lands Serene, where Ze'mer is from
Lace, after being unburdened from her GMS shackles, finally explores her own life and heads to the serene kingdom
The everbloom operates on a type of magic specific to the serene kingdom, which im just calling light ig because its white light
Lace learns this type of magic and uses it in combat, instead of Silk or Soul
ALSO FORESHADOWED by the white flowers on her cradle arena
She explores this kingdom, which contains a kind of "polar opposite" nature because the void also resides strongly here
this is because the void civilization also originates from the serene kingdom
thus, lace explores both the serene "light"filled kingdom, where the everbloom's light holds strong, and the hidden secrets of the void civilization
idk too much about the story yet but this is also very personal to lace because the void once scarred her (lost lace), how the game goes is entirely unknown to me

@zeroframe

[odd hull]

Indeed

[graceful oyster]

Oh wait hold on I broke character uh ahem-

Why are we talking about other games in sk discussion fellas? Haven't you seen the title of the channel? Ohoho! Where are my upvotes

[light swan]

ik some people hate the idea of void or recurring characters but idc i think this would be peak fanservice

[wary raptor]

hi guys

[odd hull]

Helo

[wary raptor]

:)

[fiery burrow]

how goes the ultrakilling...

[light swan]

idk why the formatting is like that

[worldly umbra]

wouldnt all the silk and purity stuff like the everbloom just kill the void

[light swan]

well the void also kills the everbloom's light, and idk wwhat silk has to do with this

[exotic cedar]

Do you perhaps like green characters with long noses?

[exotic dome]

pharloom extraction shooter game

[worldly umbra]

oh i forgot

[light swan]

the everbloom is not made of silk

[fringe mountain]

Actually the opposite the everbloom repels void but in exchange it slowly starts to die

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/LDwSte3nkjk tc shoulda gotten this guy to do the ost ngl

[worldly umbra]

hold up let me think of some lore for a lace game

[fringe mountain]

So the game premise could be that the everbloom is slowly dying

[graceful oyster]

#sk-discussion message
Have you heard of my newest research device

[wary raptor]

What is this? like an AU of some sort?

[worldly fractal]

zemer could destroy any void with the billion delecate flowers shoved up her ass

[fiery burrow]

need to hop on project wingman

[light swan]

not an AU just my personal idea for a Hollow Knight: Lacelight

[exotic cedar]

I started a new playthrough for hollow knight because i wanted to experience it again but i abandoned it one session later because of ultrakill...

[opaque sigil]

it's peak

[wary raptor]

???? is lacelight an AU???

[odd hull]

It's cool. I 100% agree with the next game being about lands serene and the First Light/origin of pale light or whatever the name is.

[fringe mountain]

Also what would be the equivalent of tools and silk skills for lace

[light swan]

an idea for hk3

[fiery burrow]

[wary raptor]

thats reserved for pablo

[hardy tangle]

australia

[light swan]

silk skills would be something related to the everbloom's pale light

tools would be completely different, new system

[exotic cedar]

😨

[hardy tangle]

i do not care for pablo

[light swan]

guys im not a team cherry dev im just having my own ideas

[fiery burrow]

playing anything else vs hopping on sandbox

[wary raptor]

I know you arent

[light swan]

i also think its great at finishing lace's character arc since its kinda half finished rn

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/19dollar-19dollar-fortnite-19dollar-fortnite-card-dont-get-blocked-fortnite-gif-20886914

[opaque sigil]

meet potential character

[hardy tangle]

how would she heal

[odd hull]

HK3 being a PvPvE it's gonna be massive, more studious should be like this

[fringe mountain]

Could be things that bind to her silk body and are like tools

[light swan]

[wary raptor]

Can we please include my favorite artist's silksong OC into lacelight please pretty please

[exotic dome]

good intro

[worldly umbra]

parry

[hardy tangle]

so a shaman game would make more sense

[worldly umbra]

i love the idea of a parry heal btw

[rocky jolt]

funny because arc raiders has an enemy named hornet

[wary raptor]

that should be in a crest

[hardy tangle]

not like mechanically

[light swan]

its not about what makes sense

[hardy tangle]

like lorewise shes silk how she heal without hornet

[light swan]

its about what would be interesting and very cool

[exotic dome]

this message getting 6 emojis made it funny

[light swan]

lorewise, why the fuck is lace even there

[wary raptor]

how could you say such a thing

[light swan]

lorewise, how the fuck would lace use the pale light's powers

[hardy tangle]

but a shaman game would be cooler

[worldly umbra]

the everbloom in her secret compartment (ass) gets bound to her and regens her

[light swan]

lorewise, is that even a real thing? a magic system?

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gulmek-komik-2--k01KPYDE3S5V5VB7RSNYFGPWM3Q

[fiery burrow]

Shamans rely on preptime

[wary raptor]

IM ACTUALLY DYING

[light swan]

i personally disagree i think lacelight would be cooler

[marsh ibex]

lorewise, you say?

[hardy tangle]

js typing shi

[marsh ibex]

…lacelight?

[wary raptor]

random bullshit go

[worldly umbra]

true

[marsh ibex]

so now we stealing from peak????

Y’all alr forgot gleamlight it seems

[exotic dome]

steel city building simulator

[marsh ibex]

ofc hk fans feel the need to take from better games

[light swan]

@marsh ibex

[worldly umbra]

anyway let me not get distubed writing this amazing lore for illusion

[light swan]

whats gleamlight

[fringe mountain]

Grey worm parasite didn’t work on her and instead she uses it to channel different sources of power

[light swan]

i mean theres weavelight.... i guess

[fiery burrow]

even silksong threw in a reference to gleamlight

[hardy tangle]

shamans get a parry/spell focused playstyle

[wary raptor]

what is gleamight

[hardy tangle]

lace just gets parry and needle or pin whatever she uses

[light swan]

yea and i fucking hate parries nor do i really care about allat

[exotic dome]

36% positive rated game on steam

[marsh ibex]

why would you say the lands serene have a “light based magic system” when lasers and shit already exist

[hardy tangle]

and lace is too similar to hornet and is also silk i dont want 2 silk games in a row

[wary raptor]

thats pretty bad

[marsh ibex]

That just seems like unnecessary crossover

[marsh ibex]

peak

[light swan]

well im creating a magic system thatso nly NAMED light for now

[marsh ibex]

Why not have the magic be based on emotion and such

[light swan]

because the everbloom is described as the first light, right? or the pale light, or smth like that

[marsh ibex]

like I would not take light from serene

[odd hull]

Bc of the flowers

[marsh ibex]

and I hate the everbloom

[fringe mountain]

@light swan atleast consider my horrible retcon 😔

[marsh ibex]

genuine dogshit change imo

[hardy tangle]

we need hollowcraft its a 3d blocky survival sandbox game

[wary raptor]

Every time I hear the word everbloom I immediately think of violet evergarden if any of you know peak

[light swan]

the everbloom originates from lands serene, i am taking the light idea from everbloom

[terse heart]

oh yeah the crusty nut

[exotic dome]

hk 3 should take place in bulgaria

[light swan]

true

[wary raptor]

trruueueee

[marsh ibex]

Okay but the everbloom sucks

[fringe mountain]

And the enemies are people with bug spray

[worldly umbra]

i third that

[fiery burrow]

why are you in this server if you don't like tthe game

[old compass]

the end pudding looks delicous ngl

[marsh ibex]

because I like women

[exotic cedar]

Team cherry if they knew how to uhm uh make games i think

[exotic dome]

we hate anyone who likes hollow knight

[fiery burrow]

so you like hornet?

[marsh ibex]

and I was told hollow knight was a woman

[light swan]

does it? i mean i think its cool and should be explored more

[odd hull]

Why

[wary raptor]

dni

[terse heart]

ikr

[worldly umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1430644507988197437/image0.gif

[terse heart]

https://tenor.com/view/fatbee-violin-tiktokfarlands-tiktok-tik-tok-gif-5322433881205802102

[light swan]

the void and the everbloom are mysterious two ideas that just get built up across two games, just make it climax in the third game

[exotic dome]

i'm 100% sure all shamans are at least 65 years old and they have back problems

[wary raptor]

dkoaplkas

[worldly umbra]

well uhh actually sequels expand upon the original in many ways like characters figuring out how to heal and more themes and things being explored
bad example actually

[fiery burrow]

Shamans would make fire a fire tower defense spinoff

[marsh ibex]

I don’t like act 3

[fiery burrow]

They spent all their time cultivating their mounds to be soul rich and they hone their own unique spells

[marsh ibex]

and the everbloom is emblematic of what I don’t like about act 3

[fiery burrow]

Team Cherry hire me

[light swan]

too similar to hornet
she doesnt have to be, shes a fencer while hornets a hunter

cant use spells
with my light idea she can

annoying kid
character development!

game about silk 2 times in a row?
not if its based around the everbloom's pale light

[marsh ibex]

what I’m hearing is you want to make clash of clans for hk

[hardy tangle]

we're not locked to a specific character so therse more freedom

[fiery burrow]

yeah it'd be tuff

[light swan]

i cant say anything about the healing

[marsh ibex]

Therefore we’d eventually get clash royale for hk

which means we’d get a megaknight for hk

[odd hull]

In what way?

[light swan]

because youre right

[marsh ibex]

your sins will not be spared starpengu

[exotic cedar]

If team cherry makes another game i hope it's not both in the hollow knight universe and it's not a metroidvania, i wanna see something different but with the same artstyle

[worldly umbra]

she goes there after gms tells her about a kingdom where weavers once wanted to go to or sum, that one rune harp in farfields weavenest tells her where to go, wants to go there to avenge gms or sum

she goes there discovering the origin of the flower that hornet once used, gets bound to her when she enters (cuz maybe it likes silk idk) and helps her heal and do other stuff like do spells and other things

then she starts to feel emotion and other feelings that she did in pharloom, elevating her purpose more, like how she laughs at jokes and not just people being weaker

[marsh ibex]

seventeen hundred years dungeon

[hardy tangle]

how will lace heal

[worldly umbra]

@light swan

[old compass]

how come

[marsh ibex]

lines of cocaine

[fiery burrow]

i wouldn't mind another metroidvania

[exotic dome]

it's like battlefield 1 opening, when you die from old age your name and birth-death year appear and you will switch to another shaman

[wary raptor]

huiwqfwqjkefhqemnf

[fringe mountain]

Tbh they could add a new shaman character in sea of sorrow that has potential for a Hk 3 or they could have it fix lace because she’s gonna die once hornet leaves pharloom

[terse heart]

I should stop being so aggressive when fighting

[wary raptor]

ok mom

[fringe mountain]

I just want a lace game

[terse heart]

I almost died on great conchfly

[wary raptor]

me too man

[worldly umbra]

what i said before (not pulling that out of my ass because why would i like i mean)

[hardy tangle]

she probably moves like hornet too, i like hornets movement but she felt good cus the knight felt like poo

[marsh ibex]

😐

[fringe mountain]

Also she’s not very similar to hornet idk why people say that

[graceful oyster]

Oh my gosh mega knight mentioned I love being a brainless mega knight player

[wary raptor]

ya oi

[marsh ibex]

Yeah you’re going to the dungeon

[old compass]

I feel like it's just stature

[light swan]

why does she have to move like hornet? can always just give her different abilities

[graceful oyster]

No I swear I was being sarcastic I've played the same giant sparky deck since 2017

[hardy tangle]

because im just going off of silksong lace

[fringe mountain]

She would heal with that circle move she does

[exotic dome]

we need hornet game i think

[hardy tangle]

and if she moved differently from sk lace it would be confusing

[fiery burrow]

when is Gotye dropping a new album we need a new Ari music video

Bum