sk-discussion

[opaque sigil]

weird thing to do the trick

[languid linden]

Well he was the straw that broke the camels back

[silver oak]

of all the things it seems reasonable

[languid linden]

Well he was like a hay bale really

That whole lead up pissed me off

The bench bs

[opaque sigil]

groal isn't my favorite fight but I wouldn't call him that bad

the runback is annoying

[lone plank]

There's a secret bench that's closer

But runback is still bad

[silver oak]

he knows about the secret bench

[languid linden]

Took me hours with hours of gameplay in between as a break

[mortal bluff]

Peak silksong experience is playing through unspoiled and getting excited in the blasted steps because you think it connects to the red coral gorge lol

[languid linden]

What secret bench

[silver oak]

oh I was giving you the benefit of the doubt

[still osprey]

Were you running from the bellway

[lone plank]

You might not think it's secret

I found it without trouble

[languid linden]

Huh

[opaque sigil]

there's a slightly closer bench you can find that's very unintuitive

[lone plank]

Are there 2 benches somewhat close to groal

[silver oak]

never mind he’s stupid

[languid linden]

I’m playing

Took me time to find that bench even looking at a map online

Runback is still aids and the gauntlet is so unnecessary

[silver oak]

icl I missed the entrance to bilewater like five times looking for it

[languid linden]

I went into the area liking bulewater btw

[silver oak]

I had to get aluo to show me the back way in 😭

[still osprey]

I love Bilewater

[lone plank]

Gauntlet is the worst part imo otherwise it would be an okay boss

[languid linden]

Or I mean I liked it until the fake bench

[silver oak]

I completely missed the fake bench on my first run

[still osprey]

The gauntlet is not even that bad tbh all the enemies die in 1 needle strike if you have like 2 needle upgrades

[silver oak]

I had no idea it was there

[languid linden]

Miyazaki should be flayed for inspiring Bilewater

[lone plank]

1??

[languid linden]

No they don’t twin

[still osprey]

As in, needle strike, the thing Pinstress teaches you

[opaque sigil]

bilewater isn't that bad once you're comfortable with the movement

[languid linden]

I had upgrades and they tanked more than a nail art

[still osprey]

Not to be confused with a needle hit

[lone plank]

Oh

[languid linden]

Ah

[still osprey]

Yea why is it called needle strike that's such a stupid name

[languid linden]

Still

[lone plank]

I never used needle strike 😭

Literally not once in my entire game

[languid linden]

I was also getting disillusioned with the game leading up to that

Like I found out they took out the corral area and Sharpe

I’m also not good at the game

[opaque sigil]

act 3 requirements are what did it for me, that was a huge obnoxious drag

[still osprey]

Sharpe is still coming eventually™

[leaden delta]

yea u just call it nart still

act 3 and the platforming did it for me

[languid linden]

I hate platforming but it was tolerable for me

[silver oak]

I tried to engage with the customization of play that the game offered but in the end I really am just a hit things until they die type of player

[opaque sigil]

tc really looked at the worst part of hollow knight the essence grind and said "how can we make this more obtuse and annoying"

[languid linden]

To be clear I played for another like 10-15 hours after I beat Groal

[patent heath]

Fordo???????

[still osprey]

I just love silksong in general tbh I don't have any major issues with it

[languid linden]

Yeah wsp

[patent heath]

I haven't seen you in forever, yo???

How you been?

[leaden delta]

I mean more just it wasn’t anything

[lone plank]

Are you talking about donating to the billboards

[leaden delta]

the platforming in silksong is nothing. it makes me so sad

[languid linden]

I beat act 2 and then I did carmelita and uhhh nyleth and probably other stuff

[languid linden]

Oh I’m happy about that part but yeah it was weird how they did so much with the movement just to not do anything with the movement

[silver oak]

oh right I forgot ur whole thing for HK was the platforming

[languid linden]

Where I actually stopped playing was Verdania

[still osprey]

I'm like on my 11th or 12th 100% playthrough now I've lost count 🔥

[languid linden]

Specifically Pale Stag

[opaque sigil]

I mean a part of an interesting set of platforming mechanics is limitations which clawline uh doesn't really have

[leaden delta]

yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea

there’s nothing interesting in the game

[languid linden]

Now i also went on a 2 week trip at that time in my defense

[opaque sigil]

honestly you're not missing out on much

[leaden delta]

also clawline is in the game. fuck clawline it’s so platforming op

[languid linden]

And when I came back I just didn’t keep going

[languid linden]

I’m good thanks

How are you

[opaque sigil]

lost lace is fine but not as much fun as lace 2, khann is cool but a bit anticlimactic

[leaden delta]

I got excited when I entered cogwork core and then it was 2 rooms long

[languid linden]

I wish lace 2 had more health I beat her first try

And as I said I’m not very good

[lone plank]

Bro how

[patent heath]

Been alive.

[lone plank]

Took me like 3 days

[silver oak]

Did you put her off until later when you had more stuff?

[languid linden]

Wait did I beat her first try?

[still osprey]

Lace 2 took me a good bit on my first playthrough, good fight

[languid linden]

Okay wait no I think what happened is I fought her, lost a couple times, came back more than 10 hours later and beat her in one or two tries

[leaden delta]

lace 2 took me 2 tries

[silver oak]

I beat lace 1 first try but lace 2 took me like 5-6 I think

[still osprey]

Lowkey she should not be damageable during her screams

[languid linden]

I think

I did beat First Sinner first try fs

[silver oak]

FS took me two tries

[leaden delta]

oh wait speaking of platforming let me post one of my clips

[still osprey]

First Sinner took me a whiiile icl

[lone plank]

Are you guys all cracked or smth I took forever for these bosses (except lace 1)

[languid linden]

I’m not

[opaque sigil]

I don't think any boss took me more than like half an hour at most including runbacks

[still osprey]

I'm good at the game now but I certainly was not on my first playthrough

[light swan]

why so little talismans + GGS

[languid linden]

Got 112% in HK after 120 hours

[silver oak]

yeah that’s pretty bad

[languid linden]

Which was at least 3 or 4 years before I played SS

[still osprey]

This is the most satisfying movement you can do in the game imo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1494234513050435644/Cogwork_Core.mp4?ex=69e52995&is=69e3d815&hm=d9395e5908289fc7d74db5e1d1626da3339e6e3990c4a387ced1f68b56111a81&

[languid linden]

You also beat Elden Ring in a week

[light swan]

feel like there def could’ve been more spots outside of internal damage finished

[silver oak]

wait by 100% do you mean 112

[leaden delta]

ill post this one. silksong if it had good platforming

[lone plank]

Took me 65

[opaque sigil]

yeah but like mostly just main dungeons

[languid linden]

I said 112

[silver oak]

because it was about the same for me counting 112

wtf

[still osprey]

BUMPERS????

[languid linden]

Like a dementia patient

[still osprey]

TF ARE CELESTE BUMPERS DOING THERE 😭

[silver oak]

I just autofilled 100% in my brain

[languid linden]

Wait I just remembered I have a bit to do that I haven’t done in years

[graceful oyster]

His timing between attacks is short enough I didn't want to use FC, and I felt it was a more effective use of my qi anyway to get in the qi blade strikes and top off the UC internal damage with WF

[languid linden]

Give me a few minutes

[leaden delta]

remind me of the bit when u finish that

[light swan]

ah

[silver oak]

I remember Joseph Anderson complaining about how hollow knight didn’t have much of a challenge including P5 and everyone in the comments was like “dude you might just be really good at video games”

[graceful oyster]

Wdym by this

[still osprey]

I should mess with Architect more

But like I'm really uncreative lowkey 🔥

[opaque sigil]

and now ss is known as a 'hard' game so ofc the fandom has to become incredibly obnoxious about strong builds

[silver oak]

TC if they weren’t cowards

[leaden delta]

I’m always saying this

[still osprey]

I love silksong's movement especially Hunter

[leaden delta]

yeah. I love hunter movement. it’s also the only crest I care about movement wise tbh

[lone plank]

One of the best decisions was making pogo diagonal

[silver oak]

eh that was the case with HK too especially in the earlier years

[opaque sigil]

I ain't never seen anyone getting condescending when they learn somebody used quick slash

[silver oak]

I have lol

[leaden delta]

5 of the 6 other crests are just the fucking same and then beast might be more limiting than interesting, but I’d have to play around with if

[silver oak]

the easy mode allegations for certain charms were everywhere

[still osprey]

The thing about the other crests is they are more combat focused except for Reaper but Reaper is worse than Hunter anyway

[graceful oyster]

I don't hate strong builds I hate red tools

[silver oak]

I quite enjoy beast movement

[leaden delta]

well I’m bitching towards architect. 4 out of the 6. architect makes me wish I had hunter

[lone plank]

I might be the only one here who enjoys reaper crest lol

[still osprey]

So their movement doesn't really make for interesting platforming

[leaden delta]

that’s why I only map with hunter

[still osprey]

Architect moveset sucks I hate architect moveset

The pogo is especially bad

[opaque sigil]

if you care about other people using them then you aren't escaping the cringe allegations this time

[silver oak]

feelspkman in 2026

[leaden delta]

I don’t think this is necessarily the game on exactly why

[opaque sigil]

also architect pogo is great

[leaden delta]

I think it’s more they all feel the same most of the time when platforming

[still osprey]

Witch doesn't, Witch feels worse when platforming. Why does the pogo pull you in. I hate it. Why.

[graceful oyster]

I don't care if people skip a boss with red tools I just hate that that's an option

[leaden delta]

like you can bitch about hitboxes I guess but liiiiiike theyre similar

theyre all the same and thats lame to me

[silver oak]

anyway I really enjoyed silksong all the way through including act 3

[lone plank]

Same

[still osprey]

Yea me too

[lone crag]

i like silksong too

[leaden delta]

thank you hunter for pogo also serving as a sort of dive

[graceful oyster]

And it is a bummer to see people use them too much

Same with shairpin

[silver oak]

although I think part of it is because I’ve never completed a game that fast ever

[languid linden]

It gets the job done

[lone plank]

Why we need silksong pantheon

[leaden delta]

ay not too much on feelspkman

[still osprey]

I have over 300 hours in Silksong already and no plans on dropping it any time soon

I love this game a lot

[languid linden]

I stopped around 55 or 60

[silver oak]

I’ve been a defender since day 1

[graceful oyster]

@orchid spruce can I get your tierlist with the HK/SS/MIO/9S bosses on it?

[silver oak]

could never

[leaden delta]

ofc. feelspkman and zote r elite

[languid linden]

Well zote is THE emote

[leaden delta]

2 goats can exist

[opaque sigil]

my ss playthrough was like 35 hours and a lot of those were doing random trial and error bullshit to unlock act 3 lol

[graceful oyster]

It's an elite emote, I hope there's nothing to defend against

[leaden delta]

stfu

[still osprey]

I should hop on silksong rn actually

[leaden delta]

I have 250 hours on ss and I’m ok with keeping it wi th that. modded bosses aren’t interesting and I’m tired of mapping that game already

[silver oak]

I think my final time for 100% was about 55 hours?

I have ~140 total I think

[languid linden]

It’s kinda crazy how I didn’t even play SS day 1

After being here for so many years

[still osprey]

My first 100% playthrough was around 55 hours too and then I did some bonus stuff which ended up cranking the time for my first playthrough up to 60 hours

[languid linden]

I think I played it on the second or third day

[silver oak]

I started a beast run a few months ago and that was fun for a while but it just doesn’t have the staying power in my mind that HK did

[leaden delta]

Yea hk is just better

[opaque sigil]

gotta hop on mio

[silver oak]

sorry I don’t play video games

[languid linden]

I remember asking my parents for SS as a delayed 13th birthday present because I was sure it would come out that year

And then they dropped it in prime college application season

[still osprey]

I think both HK and SS are fantastic games in their own way, I don't really prefer one over the other

I like silksong more because I prefer its gameplay but hk is still an extremely good game

[leaden delta]

lolllll

[silver oak]

I think it is better but a big part of why I kept playing it was probably just getting sucked into the orbit of this server lmao

[leaden delta]

prob

[languid linden]

I don’t think SS is a bad game I’m just not good enough to see it all the way through

[leaden delta]

idk I prefer just about everything in hk with the exception of moving from point A to B in overworld

[languid linden]

And I’m tired and washed and my youthful ebullience has been drained from me

[silver oak]

I had a lot of good times here despite how annoyed with it I’ve gotten

[opaque sigil]

I mean there are ways to trivialize pretty much everything but if you don’t feel the spark no real reason to

[languid linden]

All the other viltrumites are afraid of me

[languid linden]

The other thing is I didn’t really use tools

That’s on me

[opaque sigil]

I barely did myself

But you can also just use beast or wanderer

[still osprey]

I love tools they're so fun

[languid linden]

I was a wanderer fiend

[lone plank]

I rarely used silk skills bc I was too scared to lose heal

[lone crag]

i like both hollow knight and silksong equally

[still osprey]

I love engaging with the tool system and trying different things for everything

[lone crag]

but i started drawing silksong characters bullying hollow knight characters

which might say something about my unconscious preference

[silver oak]

this is why beast rules

[languid linden]

I rarely used silk spells because I didn’t have silk

[opaque sigil]

On wanderer 😭

[languid linden]

heal is mad expensive

[leaden delta]

fuuuuuuck skills

[silver oak]

wanderer got me through almost all of my first playthrough

[languid linden]

I need a job

[leaden delta]

at least silkspear exists. good spell

[lone plank]

That's why I use reaper lol

[silver oak]

I have a job that I have to be at in 7 hours

[still osprey]

wait is the save menu on the bellhome different in Act 3 there's like void particles

[silver oak]

sometimes I wonder why I decided to work weekends

[languid linden]

I have a wedding in 17 hours

[silver oak]

congrats man

who’s the lucky guy

[languid linden]

That is because there is void

[languid linden]

Dunno

[still osprey]

true..

[silver oak]

You don’t know who you’re gonna marry??

[lone plank]

Not they're wedding

[still osprey]

ok back to the max% playthrough uhhh idk what to do 🔥 I guess Watcher at the Edge sure why not

[lone plank]

*their

[languid linden]

Talking ab me ? !! ⁉️

[lone plank]

At least I don't think that's what you meant

Mb if it is

[silver oak]

obviously

[languid linden]

If I was getting married tmrw last place I’d be is here

[silver oak]

watcher at the edge from silksong <<<<< watcher of the skies by genesis

[leaden delta]

what but dont you want to invite your best friend sonia pomi2 the_future

[languid linden]

yeah bro

I wonder what it would be like if I was 12 when I played silksong

Probably be pretty cool

[silver oak]

When I was 12 I played undertale and literally could not beat it

I ragequit undertale

[still osprey]

really??? wow

[unreal wigeon]

The cycle of Canada:
-vote the libs in every election
-act like they are better than the USA
-proceed to lose to the USA in everything
-blame everyone but themselves for all their problems
-rinse and repeat 😭😭

[languid linden]

Oh yeah I never finished genocide

[undone gate]

At what point of Undertale did you rage quit

[silver oak]

dummy

[languid linden]

Couldn’t get past undyne

I guess she won

[undone gate]

The dummy is really annoying especially in a Pacifist Run

[silver oak]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-random-kid-random-kid-gif-10698606526004440975

[languid linden]

Oh yeah are deltarune chapters 3 and 4 good

[still osprey]

why did they actually almost kill me bro am I washed

[languid linden]

If only Toby Fox made ss…

[undone gate]

I took like 1 hour against Undyne mostly because I was never using healing items and I was trying to kill her

[still osprey]

I've beaten every Undertale route at least 10 times each

[undone gate]

I have done 2 Neutral and Pacifist runs and one Genocide Run

[still osprey]

I've gotten every neutral ending 😭

all 80 or so of them

[undone gate]

How did you have the time for all that

[still osprey]

bro this is the third time I see him he's about to become lost 😭

[silver oak]

I’m gonna get the go to sleep ending

[languid linden]

Me too

[normal bramble]

I’ve done 16 pacifist runs. 8 normal endings, and 39 genocides and counting

[silver oak]

gn fordo

[languid linden]

I’ll come back maybe in a few months

[undone gate]

Why 39 genocide runs

[normal bramble]

I wanted to refight sans and undyne

And would just

Start a full new playthrough to do so each time 😭

[ornate perch]

o7

[undone gate]

That's insane I wouldn't have the patience to do Genocide again considering most of it is just killing enemies

[normal bramble]

I, 7-8 years ago, had absolutely no issues with the idea

I would do it happily just to do those refights

Now I look back on it and wonder how in the world did I not go insane or atleast try searching on google for a battle simulators before doing that

[undone gate]

You could also just have quit the game right after beating Sans to refight him since Undertale doesn't save you winning bosses

[normal bramble]

Ya that

Also probably would’ve been an a lot smarter idea

[still osprey]

this still feels so good to do

GREAT Pinstress fight I cooked her

[graceful oyster]

[still osprey]

oh wow yea there is an overlay of tendrils and void particles in all of them wow

[normal bramble]

Oh what that’s a thing?

[still osprey]

apparently yea

I only now noticed too

Surface climb time wooo

Fun fact, you can Silk Soar here even if there's no ceiling on the other room

[worthy lintel]

I assume there's a ceiling in this room above the gate and they didn't consider it

Or they just found it cool and did it intentionally

[light swan]

i just thought there were times where you could sneak in more WFs

[graceful oyster]

Yeah, probably

[light swan]

chi yu pfp?

[graceful oyster]

I didn't want to risk hitting a WF and then being really tightly pressed for the next UC

Was more consistent to just stand and wait

[graceful oyster]

keh keh

[north hedge]

I love this game

[worthy lintel]

I somehow ended up duplicating Hornet lol (I think because I added an enemy to the Bellhome that attacked her and knocked her out of the animation)

[still osprey]

This is awesome but small correction, Phantom is nonbinary and uses they/them

[graceful oyster]

Probably

[north hedge]

It’s cut off on the side, their pronouns are set as that

[still osprey]

ohhh ok sick

I didn't know you could actually have separate gender and pronouns that's cooll

bro

[lone crag]

for miis or for people

[still osprey]

for miis

ok I beat Lost Garmond

since I'm here anyway I might as well do Seth and Nyleth now

cool

you know blasted steps bellway works great for Act 3 because it's close to both Nyleth and Khann

hmmm red tools for coral tower...

[timid valve]

Idk, Sting Shard?

[still osprey]

there's too little red tools we need more

ok I went with Flintslate and Tacks

here's the build

[median fractal]

Yellow tools:

I mean I know Yellow tools are meant to be qol shit but dice clearly violates that and theres so little competition that sometimes I have a free fucking slot because idk what to put in it since I dont need ascendant's grip (I obviously still put it on cuz duh)

Dice is such a blue tool it actually baffles me that it ended up being yellow

[timid valve]

Maybe like a polishing kit that boosts your needle base damage by 1.

[median fractal]

I mean maybe its intentionally like that but

Steel soul adds a yellow tool that gives you extra red tool charges which is peak

Because cogflies go brrrrrr

[timid valve]

replaces*

[undone gate]

Dice, Barbed Bracelet, Shell Snatchal, Swiftspeed Ancklets and Acendants Grip and the ones which can be viable in bosses

[median fractal]

Well yeag but the one it replaces doesnt exist anyway its fucking useless

I am hoping Sea of Sorrow adds at least 1 yellow tool thats neat and useful

Wouldnt be surprised if they add 1 yellow 1 red 1 blue each dlc ngl

[still osprey]

yea

ok time for Karm I guess

[narrow roost]

swiftspeed?

how

[still osprey]

Karm build

[undone gate]

In a lot of bosses having higher sprint speed can help you the best example is First Sinner

[narrow roost]

interesting!

i think the ||regular gms fight|| had a lot of running

[still osprey]

That Karmelita fight was ass I ain't sending that bro

[hybrid flare]

youre gonna want to spend most of the time in the air for gms though

[narrow roost]

im talking about the 2nd act

idk about anything else rn

[still osprey]

Why do you need the everbloom for Swift's final race bro 💔

[hybrid flare]

swift is void

[normal bramble]

Honestly I’ve started not using red tools and also just always running cross stitch

[hybrid flare]

literally me

[normal bramble]

The absolutely amazing gameplay of just never dodging

[still osprey]

that was me for a while but like I love the strategy involving red tools I really enjoy using them

[normal bramble]

I’ve tried red tools and most of them just aren’t for me

[still osprey]

it makes the game a lot more immersive imo it always has me thinking which ones would be good for the situation I'm in

[normal bramble]

Curve claw is the only one I really like

[still osprey]

yea there's a lot of very mid ones but the majority have their use cases

Silkshot is the one that surprised me the most

[normal bramble]

Oh also Shakra rings

[still osprey]

it's like a knockoff silk spear

[normal bramble]

Silkshot is suprisingly good

[still osprey]

I love running it

[hybrid flare]

silkshot is fun

[normal bramble]

Silk cost blah blah but infinite Pierce

Pretty damn good if you just line enemies up

[still osprey]

3 seconds into red memory I already fell 🐐

but yea I understand not wanting to use red tools

[normal bramble]

I find it funny that 99% of red memory platforming is skipable

Since they give you an infinite silk Clawline

[still osprey]

it took me like 200 hours to start actively experimenting with them

[normal bramble]

I’ve messed around with them a bit I’ve never dedicated a real amount of time to them

I’ve always found them the least fun part of the game to mess around with, maybe because it feels like the most indirect way of hitting an enemy

[still osprey]

ohhh it's like thatg one game I get that reference

YOU CAN STAND HERE?????

[normal bramble]

Uh ya

That is definitely a platform

[still osprey]

You might enjoy using flintslate as it's a direct boost to your needle

[normal bramble]

Flint slate flea brew tends to be the main tool set I use the rare occasions I do Lol

[still osprey]

I lowkey don't run flea brew as much as I should

[normal bramble]

(Or flint slate Shakra rings because the poshanka taunt is amazing)

[still osprey]

I mainly use it for skips 😭 🔥

[normal bramble]

Shakra rings genuinely might be my most equipped tool

Definitely not my most used I barely ever actually throw them

But they spend alottttt of time equipped

[still osprey]

such as,

100% obtained, now for the rest

if I fail this race I am literally quitting the game 🗣️ 🔥

ok gg

DUDE CAN SECOND SENTINEL STOP JUMPSCARING ME OMG

[raw pawn]

Lmao

[raw pawn]

ngl the funniest thing there is that wanderer pogo bullies the judges cause it keeps hitting the shield which forces them to not attack for a lil bit

[still osprey]

chat will you hate me if I use mods to get Nuu's Memento on this save file

I've already done it in vanilla I do NOT want to grind all that again 😭

[raw pawn]

no one gives a damn about this memento

It's not even hard to get it's just so boring

[still osprey]

exactly like 😭

ok Crawfather time

yea ok Sharpdart is joining my top 3 silk skills I think

[still osprey]

even then I'll still kill every enemy at least once so like...

ok Verdania time wooo I love Verdania

Ok I think something happened

[stable narwhal]

that's radiance

sea of sorrows tomorrow

[cerulean sable]

how did you survive the 200 brightness citadel

[azure patrol]

Pale Wyrm > Grand Ramen Stink

[hollow hinge]

Does anyone know if they buffed rune rage whenever i use it near an enemy i swear it always swarms them and ive tested it multiple times?

[still osprey]

I love gay people (imagine unrelated)

[azure patrol]

Proceeds to ragebait him and once he had enough steals his still beating heart

Truly a weaver moment of all time

[still osprey]

🎉

not a whole lot left to do now

[hollow hinge]

wait for sea of sorrow

[civic island]

Valid

[still osprey]

awesome

That's all mementos too now

[potent vessel]

are you replaying?

or is this your first playthrough

[glossy nebula]

Just ten minutes???

[still osprey]

this is like my 11th replay

[potent vessel]

crazy

[still osprey]

at least, 11th 100% replay

[glossy nebula]

Oh makes ense

[potent vessel]

ive only done 3 100%s

and only in my 1st one did i get the extra stuff like mementos

[still osprey]

yea this is a max% playthrough I'm doing as much as I physically can

[potent vessel]

fair enough

[pliant pike]

I love both clair obscur and wuthering waves

my top 3 and 2 games

[frozen meadow]

idk but silksong bosses are actually easy but they only seem hard because of double damage

[still osprey]

I believe this is literally everything done, well, except Lost Lace

[frozen meadow]

unlike hollow knight bosses

[frozen meadow]

u didn't do it yet?

[strange knot]

Congrats!!!

[still osprey]

🎉

[strange knot]

Completed meterium looks so cool

[strange knot]

Goat

[still osprey]

And that should be it unless I missed something in which case I will be very sad

[orchid spruce]

MAJOR spoilers for: MIO, Nine Sols, Blasphemous 2, GRIME

[graceful oyster]

Sorry I meant the link with the images

[orchid spruce]

it's a private tier list i created

[graceful oyster]

Tragic

I don't want to gather all the images myself lol

[orchid spruce]

https://tiermaker.com/create/metroidvanias-ive-played---top-5-bosses-from-each-game-19373874

is it accessible for you

[graceful oyster]

Also I was just perusing chat history and, did you start playing Mio from discussions and mentions here?

[graceful oyster]

Thank you

[orchid spruce]

I think so

I was planning to play MIO anyways

I heard it had parry

[twin summit]

you didnt need to get 124 btw

[still osprey]

max% playthrough done 🎉

100%
All Bosses
All Consumables
All Purchasable Items
All Wishes
All Materium Entries
All Mementos
All Relics + Cylinders
All Rooms Explored + Full Map Filled Out

[graceful oyster]

In any case, I think you kinda started talking here because of it (correct me if I'm wrong) and, because Mio was generally the topic, you often interacted with me or Illusion, who happen to be very ferocious propagandizers in this channel

And your affinity for Nine Sols was often brought up in comparison

[orchid spruce]

I forgot

[graceful oyster]

Illusion talked with you about 9S a lot as a result, and I got interested and started playing

[orchid spruce]

peak chain of events

[graceful oyster]

Then I didn't stop talking abt it with you both

And now I see evidences of it spreading all over the place among people who frequent here

So, all that to say, your presence here has sparked quite the Nine Sols revival

[graceful oyster]

How very fortunate

[still osprey]

I did smth similar in the past but I actually missed a number of stuff and I didn't do all wishes
this time I'm pretty confident I've done everything tho

[graceful oyster]

You did this all today yeh? You've been posting about it constantly

Congrats

[still osprey]

I started around 2 days ago
Entered Act 3 yesterday but I was too tired to play
Did everything in Act 3 today

[graceful oyster]

I see

[still osprey]

Well technically I entered Act 3 on the day I started but I didn't open the save until yesterday so that doesn't count 🔥

[queen acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128048705363251265/1494187240786759800/cantsee.gif

[twin summit]

oh yeah, i can do that too. difintaly toatly fr 100% lowk tru yep

[graceful oyster]

It's hard to say the exact amount of people who have started playing it since the topic became common, but I can count at least 9

It's certainly more than that

But 9 is what I can see

[still osprey]

This also includes all courier deliveries, under All Wishes

[sharp iron]

What does V button do in hollow onight

Sorry silksong**

[still osprey]

Taunt

[sharp iron]

When hornet take a stance or something

[still osprey]

it attracts enemies towards you

[orchid spruce]

9, like 9 Sols???

[sharp iron]

Hmm interesting

[orchid spruce]

[orchid locust]

the gong

[graceful oyster]

I plan on drawing her soon although my art skills leave much to be desired

[timid sky]

The sog

[queen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-soggy-cat-cat-meme-silly-gif-1947576969338905744

[timid sky]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sog-cat-soggy-cat

[heady iron]

https://tenor.com/view/goog-goog-cat-googcat-gif-15010541579753907209

[vale whale]

come home rcg

pls make nine sols shanhai edition

shanhai game

[graceful oyster]

(BOSS SPOILERS for NINE SOLS and MIO)
This is gonna waver over time but here is where I'm at right now for the big ones

[orchid locust]

nine chips

[graceful oyster]

Do-te, do-te

[vale whale]

when i get a pc in 1 trillion years i will mod chien and shanhai into pragmata

and it will be perfect

[queen acorn]

when i get a pc in a krillion years i will kill mio

[queen acorn]

also the AUDACITY to put pv above karm

[graceful oyster]

PV is perfection

Almost put it up there with egg

[queen acorn]

i agree

[still osprey]

PV is extremely good

[spare isle]

Groal the Great

[graceful oyster]

What's stopping me is HK's less-than-perfect combat system

[still osprey]

Yea that's fair

[queen acorn]

i agree

[still osprey]

HK's combat is good but it's very basic

[queen acorn]

unless you glaze mio

[still osprey]

There's like, your nail, spells, and that's really it

[cedar trench]

combat in hk feels kinda sorta maybe secondary?

we didn't really get important bossfigts pre dlc

[grizzled sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-bellbeast-bell-beast-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-9042676849871261244

[cedar trench]

like think about all the bosses hk gets praise for

[still osprey]

Like using silksong combat as a comparison as it's the only other metroidvania I've played, it has the Needle, Silk Skills, Red Tools and Clawline just off the top of my head, that's already double the options

[graceful oyster]

You gotta play more mvanias

[lone crag]

||i never got to eigong||

[still osprey]

I should

[cedar trench]

-pv
-absrad
-nkg
-SOMETIMES white defender
-sisters of battle
-zote but it's a coin flip

maybe not absrad she's really bullshit

[queen acorn]

no other mvanias exist only hk

hk reportedly the only game ever

[still osprey]

Who tf invited sly 😭

[cedar trench]

he's a great boss

[graceful oyster]

I remember being confined to HK, what a freeing day that was when I finally discovered there were other games

[queen acorn]

sly is VERY good

[still osprey]

He's fine but like, praise???

No one praises sly bro

[queen acorn]

true

[cedar trench]

the list would've been extremely sad with three and a half entries

[queen acorn]

yep

[exotic dome]

tetris (1984) -> no games -> hollow knight (2012) -> hollow knight: silksong (2020)

[still osprey]

What about Sisters of Battle

or GMS

[cedar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[still osprey]

GPZ I meant GPZ not GMS

[cedar trench]

this is hk only

[exotic cedar]

Gpz is the best team cherry boss goodbye

[cedar trench]

gpz is the only hk boss i've seen someone call a slur

[queen acorn]

no hi come back

[exotic dome]

both of them are infintely better than sly

[exotic cedar]

Ok hii

[cedar trench]

fixed

[timid sky]

How did raging conker end up there

[cedar trench]

is this a list someone made specifically for themselves

i hope so

[queen acorn]

you forgot pale stag

[cedar trench]

because lace 1 is a nothing boss compared to the rest of the game

[queen acorn]

lace 1 happens at a nothing time dude

your 10 minutes into the game

[cedar trench]

also putting lace 3 times in the list is super redundant i get that she's the perfect boss when it comes to accomodating silksong's movements and combat mechanics but bro

[timid sky]

10 minutes into the game you get silkspear

[queen acorn]

exageration!!

[cedar trench]

15

it's 15 minutes into the game

[queen acorn]

its a figure of speach

[cedar trench]

you're not even that far off

[queen acorn]

you fight lace 1 so EARLY into the game

[graceful oyster]

Wii sports -> Minecraft -> Halo 4 -> Minecraft -> [GREAT AWAKENING] -> Hollow Knight -> Ori 1/2 -> Rain World -> Outer Wilds -> Tunic -> Subnautica -> Inscryption -> Noita -> Valheim -> Caves of Qud -> Silksong -> MIO -> Nine Sols

[exotic dome]

you fight lace approximately 35 seconds into the game

[cedar trench]

lace 1 is an optional boss too

[queen acorn]

AND little big planet 2

[cedar trench]

no ut/dr

[queen acorn]

yes ut/dr

[timid sky]

Yeah and next your gonna tell me we get weaver queen right after we fall from the bridge

[cedar trench]

yeah but the list doesn't have them

[graceful oyster]

These are games I actually got into, there are a lot in between
Still, no ut/dr

[cedar trench]

oh my bad i thought this was a meme

[exotic dome]

i was JUST typing that

[cedar trench]

my first video game ever was SMG2

[cerulean sable]

honest question

for SoS, are you guys gonna reuse your existing save or full new file

[graceful oyster]

Reuse

[cedar trench]

depends on when you unlock it

[exotic dome]

this is real hk made me awaken and try more games too

[graceful oyster]

I can't be bothered to play again

[cedar trench]

true

[queen acorn]

if its like

[exotic cedar]

Maybe ill make a new save file

[cedar trench]

my best guess is like mid to late act 2

[exotic cedar]

I havent played in a long time

[queen acorn]

couldnt be asked to do allat again

[cerulean sable]

mid act 2 and 3 feels like the swet spot

[exotic cedar]

But if i see a wishwall in pharloom bay im deleting the game

[exotic dome]

i'll use my first save till i die like how i did it in hk

[cerulean sable]

i intnetinoally do not play for a long time

[cedar trench]

very funny to be in act 3 and just leave pharloom to go fuck off in the ocean

[cerulean sable]

so i forget most of the game

before i replay

[queen acorn]

trobbio spotted drowning in lifeblood and you gotta save him

plasmified trobbio

[cerulean sable]

i have gold fish memory

[exotic dome]

i already finished 5 times so new content will be played in the first ever save

[cedar trench]

at the end of the dlc there is a plasmified lace bossfight

[queen acorn]

true

[cedar trench]

probably my biggest letdown in silksong is lost lace if we're being real

like again???

[cerulean sable]

nah

personally for me LL is S tier

[cedar trench]

if karmelita was the final boss i'd be ok with it gameplay wise like she's an excellent bossfight

[exotic cedar]

I don't mind another lace fight but it would be nice if she got new and UNIQUE attacks

[cedar trench]

she's a fucking godhome bonus not the final boss of the game

[queen acorn]

lost lace is the final boss so she SUCKS

[cerulean sable]

disagree

[graceful oyster]

REAL

[timid sky]

They couldve done an inverse of the first game and made you fight knight to prove your worth

[queen acorn]

no known boss can be good im playing opinionmaxsong

[cedar trench]

that would've made me even more mad

[graceful oyster]

LL made me very disappointed

[timid sky]

Idk then

[graceful oyster]

First GMS was a Radiance reskin and then LL was just another Lace. And that's it! That's all the final bosses!

Yucktacular

[exotic cedar]

I should have been the final boss

[cedar trench]

i don't want to sound like a whiny baby who whines all the time but after the relatively low amount of new stuff i found in act 3 and the miserable atmosphere, going back to the void (again) to fight a boss i've already fought a functional 2 hours of gameplay ago was very very annoying

[exotic cedar]

It would be cool if gms attacked with her hair

[queen acorn]

me and alpre shouldve been the final boss

[cerulean sable]

eh disagree to agree, i think shes one of the best bosses in the game and ill die on that hill

[queen acorn]

widow more fun im sorry

[cedar trench]

she's an excellent fight because lace is an excellent boss

she just upgrades on that and it's cool i get where you're coming from

[fleet temple]

it's a good boss but I would've preferred something original

[graceful oyster]

I have room for 1 Silksong boss on this list and Karm barely made it in

[fleet temple]

hoping the dlc will give us an actual ending and final boss

[cerulean sable]

for me Lace 2 was too easy so LL was the perfect up to it

[queen acorn]

imagine we entered thks mind and we got lost hornet

this is the same thing its js underwhelming

[exotic dome]

lost lace is infinitely better than le epic shade lord trust me

[cedar trench]

if first sinner was like 2x as hard as she is when you're supposed to meet her she'd make an insane final boss (ignore the narrative for a second)

[cerulean sable]

like i get why people dont like it was a repeat boss

[queen acorn]

true true

[graceful oyster]

That wasn't gonna happen though

So, it's not a fair point

[cedar trench]

i second tried first sinner but i felt the veins in my head explode it was great

[cerulean sable]

but personally i didnt really want a MEGA VOID LORD BOSS WITH 8 ARMS or wtv that a lot of people wanted for hype moments and aura

[queen acorn]

the masses yearn for fastslop

[fleet temple]

that's kind of a false dichotomy
doesn't have to be ll or shade lord
could be something else

[exotic dome]

what else couldve been an act 3 final boss

[cedar trench]

i also didn't want that it would have sucked equally

[queen acorn]

the void

[fleet temple]

I think the answer is to just not have act 3 or completely rework it

[cedar trench]

it's cool that silksong did the giant boss gimmick but one is fine thanks

[queen acorn]

your running the ones with the void itself

[cedar trench]

4th chorus try not to sleep challenge

[graceful oyster]

TC wrote the game, they could have...
...written something different

[exotic dome]

act 3 lore is kinda mid and lost lace and the ending is probably the only good thing so i'll take it

[cedar trench]

if act 3 was good we wouldn't have had the void let's start from that

[fleet temple]

yeah
maybe we could've gotten something slightly different if they stuck with the pre 2022 pharloom

[graceful oyster]

Truth nuke

[queen acorn]

i think it couldve been done right

[exotic dome]

yea i agree but we have void in act 3

[still osprey]

I love Act 3

[exotic dome]

thats a different topic

[graceful oyster]

The void had a conclusion in HK we did NOT need to see it again

[still osprey]

I love silksong in general

[queen acorn]

act 3 was surprising until it was js every enemy is slightly more bitchy now

oh and depression bosses ig

[cedar trench]

btw.i love silksong it's a great game i just feel like act 3 is it's weakest aspect and it really really shows

[graceful oyster]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMzBpbW5kcmdqMDJrdnZ0YTBwejF4dmh1ZzNhd2ZmeTA0NHUyY3U2NCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/iHC7XHYECP3JmPWsMy/giphy.gif

[still osprey]

I get why people don't like it but personally I'm a big fan of Act 3

[fleet temple]

eehhh
The void didn't really get a "conlcusion"
the knight and the siblings did, if that's what you mean, but the void itself is sort of a constant presence in the world
it coming back in silksong makes sense

[queen acorn]

its not bad its js the weakest of the acts

[exotic dome]

yes

[still osprey]

I do like Act 2 more gameplay-wise

Tho I'd still say Act 1 is the weakest

[fleet temple]

I feel ike act 3 was purely made because TC forgot to implement backer content

[exotic cedar]

Act 2 is the best act

[queen acorn]

when the game spends 2 acts making you part of pharloom only to throw it in your face and kill everyone

[cedar trench]

like i come in acting like act 3 is the worst thing to ever happen to gaming while at the end of the day it's mediocre at worst and it's biggest flaws really bring it down to the same heights as a middling moment in hollow knight which is saying a lot

[exotic dome]

act 3 has the best two bosses that's the only saving grace

[queen acorn]

its js kinda unessecary

[queen acorn]

wrong!!

[fleet temple]

like I can tell that TC really didn't fw the backers

[graceful oyster]

The void had its conclusion in the story. It's not just the knight and the siblings. I get what you're saying but it's lazy to use it as a plot device again.

[cedar trench]

wrong!

[still osprey]

Well yea that's kinda the point

[exotic cedar]

My main gripe with act 3 is the lack of exploring

[fleet temple]

literally scammed the sharpe guy lol

[exotic cedar]

No exploring in a metroidvania game

[queen acorn]

the points bullshit why cant i enjoy pharloom

[fleet temple]

by that logic soul shouldn't come back in silksong

[exotic dome]

but but you have lugoli secret room

[fleet temple]

yeah verdania was wasted

[cedar trench]

scorching hot take here but if they made some areas locked and act 3 exclusive i would've liked it more

[queen acorn]

hot? take but no one would gaf bout the old kingdom areas if they were fully part of the game

ppl want them cz they werent in the game

[graceful oyster]

It kinda doesn't, it's not a plot device at all for most of the game And where it is a plot device, it's Act 3. Which is the problem.

[exotic dome]

silksoar accessible areas being not visible on the map is also an interesting choice

[cedar trench]

i'm gonna be honest i get the narrative dissonance they would have created but i wish they went all in with the vibrant world thing (which they didn't (see: act 3))

[orchid spruce]

lace 1 is good

[fleet temple]

so if they were in the game people wouldn't want them?
they'd go "booo fuck this coral area I want a dry ass desert instead"?

[orchid spruce]

raging conchfly is good

[fleet temple]

I feel like you need to actual read up on the definition of plot device

[queen acorn]

dudnt say that

[cedar trench]

they'd rightfully poiint out that it doesn't make sense to say that the citadel is ravaging and pillaging the nearby areas for resources and then showing the coral forest and the coral king at full power

[graceful oyster]

Soul comes up for Silk and Soul, nowhere else

[queen acorn]

i said no one would care

[graceful oyster]

Groal doesn't even matter

Bro just ate a shaman

[fleet temple]

well yeah but that's because the story was changed

[cedar trench]

but like who cares

[exotic dome]

old hearts feel random if they had dedicated areas maybe it wouldnt be like that

[queen acorn]

this

[fleet temple]

pre 2022 silksong had a reason for why the other areas were still thriving

[cedar trench]

it wasn't, gorge and verdania were scrapped because of this reason i'd imagine

[fleet temple]

that's the game that people are upset about losing

[exotic cedar]

And maybe more foreshadowing

[orchid spruce]

Karmelita's good

[exotic dome]

foreshadowing and shaman buildup instead of slop donation quests

[fleet temple]

still a waste

[cedar trench]

true

[exotic cedar]

Karmelita is the best one, Khann is good too but because of the gauntlets

[orchid spruce]

yues, act 3 is slop

[fleet temple]

like I gurantee you if khann and karm weren't backer characters they would be scrapped entirely

hell, sharpe was still scrapped

they didn't even tell the backer

[orchid spruce]

no, i mean buildup. at least karmelita has the statue and the rando leaf npc talks a bit about her.

[exotic dome]

they will bring back sharpe

steel lore still has potential

[graceful oyster]

TC is great at making good games they should stick to that instead of, uh, writing

[cedar trench]

while i'm a true sea fan and i love underwater exploration and i love the sea etcetera etcetera SoS makes me a bit scared that it's just gonna be endless blues like i'm in the fucking crossroads again

[cedar trench]

MEET POTENTIAL MAN

[queen acorn]

lmao

[orchid spruce]

silksong is the potential man

[fleet temple]

well yeah obv
but like, it's clear they really don't wanna implement backer stuff
they likely have a lot of disdain for their fans

[valid sable]

Vibrant endless blues would be beautiful

[queen acorn]

old kingdoms are the potential man of silksong

[cedar trench]

DUDE FUCK YEAH LET'S GO TEAM CHERRY HATES US APRIL 2026

[cedar trench]

steel tribe is

[graceful oyster]

TC does disdain their fans, look at the update changelogs
They contain like 70% of what was actually changed

[queen acorn]

true...

[queen acorn]

and

[graceful oyster]

This is 10/10 hate

[fleet temple]

I mean you all do seem to hate silksong so I'm surprised you don't shit on TC more

[queen acorn]

youll live if tc doesnt tell you rosary cannon has been buffed with a 0.2 picosecond attack speed

[graceful oyster]

Also patching tool pogos is the worst indie gamedev decision I have ever seen

[orchid spruce]

we sometimes shit on TC's decisions we don't hate them at all

[exotic dome]

real enemy is kickstarters!!!!!

[queen acorn]

and that one conductors mask is no longer canon

[fleet temple]

Honestly I think silksong was better in 2019

[queen acorn]

ig bro

[orchid spruce]

it's okay

[exotic cedar]

We are team cherry and we hate fun!!!

[exotic dome]

that's a stretch, you could access any silksoar area lol

[queen acorn]

some of yall havent done a normal file since september and it shows

[orchid spruce]

nuh uh

[graceful oyster]

No one is doing that on a first playthrough

[queen acorn]

tfym no one is using silksoar???

oh wait im stupid

[graceful oyster]

No, tool pogoing to get to silk soar areas

[queen acorn]

ignore that i acnt read

[orchid spruce]

[exotic dome]

it's still a big issue imo

[still osprey]

patching tool pogos is bullshit

[queen acorn]

patching tool pogos is nothing you should play the game tc made

[fleet temple]

speedrunners when the devs patch a gamebreaking glitch

[queen acorn]

boo hoo maybe you can ACTUALLY play the game right

[still osprey]

have you considered it's fun

[queen acorn]

no the FUCK theyre not

[still osprey]

they are

[queen acorn]

who lied to you

te propganda

[exotic cedar]

Is tool pogos hard to learn?

[graceful oyster]

Metroidvanias are kinda the most fun when there are loopholes to abuse to get new places

It makes them vastly more replayable

[orchid spruce]

yues, like mio

[queen acorn]

do NOT bring up mio

[still osprey]

volt pogos aren't very hard, pimpillop pogos are impossible

[queen acorn]

this discussion was FULLY silkosng you damn mio glazers

[orchid spruce]

why is mio only 85% when it's the best metroidvania of all times

[exotic cedar]

interesting

[still osprey]

Like this shit is awesome

[graceful oyster]

Mio is a great example of spectacular skip design

[queen acorn]

you didnt discover goty you found any other indie game

[orchid spruce]

[fleet temple]

genuine question
do you guys actually like silksong?

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[still osprey]

I love silksong

[queen acorn]

your not COOL for glazing some indie game in the HOLLOW knight server

[orchid spruce]

yues sir

[queen acorn]

i love it

[graceful oyster]

When you know and love a game, you know its worst

[orchid spruce]

we all know you can't shit on something you like

[queen acorn]

thats wrong

[orchid spruce]

you gotta kiss its ass 24/7

[exotic dome]

it's my fav game of all time so i hate it

[queen acorn]

its like my top 3 game oat

behind silksong and hollow knight silksong

[fleet temple]

yeah I get that but it goes beyond the point
it's just mindless slander and hate
and the 90% discussion and praise of random other games

[still osprey]

silksong is so bad why do you play as hornet this game would've been so much better if you played as salubra who's with me

[graceful oyster]

It's not mindless, it's actually quite mindful

[cedar trench]

meet potential man!
they call him 007
-0 feats
-0 apperances in mode specifically named after him
-7 promises broken by team cherry
give me void tendrils give me fire give me 400 us dollars or i retire
"the steel city dlc is gonna be crazy"
"bro there's so many allusions"
"He has the potential to compress higher beings"

[fleet temple]

it's like people can only dicuss media like it's a jjk slander meme

[orchid spruce]

mindless slander where

[graceful oyster]

There is a reason we say what we say

[fleet temple]

yeah like that
can't actually engage with anything

[exotic dome]

lmao

[queen acorn]

im crine

[graceful oyster]

One guy btw

[orchid spruce]

[queen acorn]

ts a top 5 post oat

[cedar trench]

girl

[still osprey]

I hope sharpe is an Act 3 exclusive boss

[graceful oyster]

Girl. You have conquest in your pfp sry

[still osprey]

would be really cool

[orchid spruce]

can we nuke act 3

[cedar trench]

it's ok i get it

[queen acorn]

conquest is a cutie femboy tsundure wym

[brittle hill]

someone's lonely

[graceful oyster]

What does this mean

[fleet temple]

everyone here does that
"meet potential x" bro I don't care
just like play the game and talk about idgaf about whatever 76% metacritic indie game comes out, go talk about that in the circlejerk subreddit that you all go to

[queen acorn]

someones MAD as hell

[graceful oyster]

First time I've seen it

[orchid spruce]

[graceful oyster]

Also yeah you seem fired up

[orchid spruce]

why would i use reddit

[fleet temple]

this is like the only silksong discussion place that isn't filled with 5year olds I was expecting some actual intelligence

[cedar trench]

i'm so happy. All the other viltrumites are proud of me. Everyone wants to talk to me, everybody wants to be my friend... they think i am remarkably stable

[exotic cedar]

All i feel about silksong is PERFECT... HATRED...

[graceful oyster]

[still osprey]

I can't tell if this skip is impossile or free

[fleet temple]

mostly just drunk

[graceful oyster]

I think you need to take a timeout

[queen acorn]

gem of a post

[brittle hill]

they even gave you a nickname.. quest

[queen acorn]

valid

[wind mulch]

sidequest

[orchid spruce]

yues sir

[cedar trench]

come on i'll write my thesis piece later

[graceful oyster]

Invinciblerot

[orchid spruce]

why is there turkey

[queen acorn]

im a strawberry

[orchid spruce]

[brittle hill]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-and-we-run-and-we-run-and-we-run-gif-9202671630847324504

[graceful oyster]

Is this a new age invincible reference

[queen acorn]

and we run and we run and we run and we run and we run and we run and we run and we run and we run and we run

[cedar trench]

yes

[wind mulch]

because viltrumites looks turkish for some reason

[orchid spruce]

[brittle hill]

protein tubes with the white sauce

[orchid spruce]

i am not in these circles

[graceful oyster]

My media literacy ends at sea salt

[orchid spruce]

i am only in nine sols and mio circlejerk subreddits

[queen acorn]

your not listening!!

[cedar trench]

anyway the biggest issue with sharpe isn't the fact that he's been taken away from us time and time again but that whatever steel city is is going to be awesome

[still osprey]

World's most impossible skip

[brittle hill]

this isnt about me! Its about all murders that protein tubes commited

[queen acorn]

look mark i made protien tubes with that white sauce

[graceful oyster]

NOOOO! This is too easy!!! We need to make it so you can't pogo on boulders!!!

[queen acorn]

how much does this brah brah pay

[still osprey]

there is this backup

[exotic dome]

ok ts wasnt needed to be patched

[still osprey]

it's not patched this is on the current version of the game

[fleet temple]

if we even get a steel city
might just be a single side quest in deep docks or smth

[graceful oyster]

Nerf faydown I guess

[cedar trench]

yeah that's my problem

[still osprey]

[brittle hill]

silksong when it comes to making a player's life a bit easier:

[cedar trench]

steel city is a really cool setpiece i hope we get to see it fully developed

[graceful oyster]

We have decided that faydown is too OP and lets you get to too many places, so we have decided to remove it

[cedar trench]

we'll see what happens with SoS

[orchid spruce]

accept this quest then follow this trail to reach steel city, where you encounter the intimidating and evil wish wall

[exotic dome]

ikr, steel city HAS the potential

[queen acorn]

sea of tommorow

[cedar trench]

meet potential... place?

[barren dew]

hi

[queen acorn]

steel city has so much potential, man

[graceful oyster]

In Act 3 Steel Soul you will be able to Silk Soar up into the city of steel, where you are met with a daring gauntlet of new challenging enemies and an exciting miniboss before gaining access to the beautiful region with a whole new wishwall!!!

[exotic cedar]

Hello watermelon bon emoji

[exotic dome]

sharpe assassinated pale king trust

[queen acorn]

sup

[orchid spruce]

dont forget the wishwall

[barren dew]

Hello apple

[barren dew]

Hi hi

[charred tiger]

[queen acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992122184753479740/1486976441986846821/caption.gif

[barren dew]

ZOTE

[exotic cedar]

Omg i wish there's no wishwall in city of steel

[charred tiger]

gm

[exotic cedar]

My biggest fear is that team cherry adding more wishwalls

[graceful oyster]

Want a wall to place that wish on?

[cedar trench]

LMFAOOOOOOO why would there even be think for a second

[queen acorn]

MORE wishwalls

[charred tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-gif-5230434060612508653

[exotic dome]

collect my bells, silver bells

[exotic cedar]

Idk maybe if there's like a town or something 😭

[exotic dome]

sea of sorrow will have a "collect 10 salt chunks" wish or something

[cedar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/patrik-bottle-hat-gif-26508133

[orchid spruce]

true, just post every wish on the bellhart wish wall. everything goes on there for some reason

[cedar trench]

could be

[brittle hill]

ngl i got a bone to pick with hollow knight/silksong cuz like why does every final boss is always so easy 😭 like on the first playthrough and my current playthrough of silksong i beat hollow knight on my first try and grandmother silk on the second attempt, like they have so much gas around them like they're gonna be so diffiuclt just for them to easier than bosses that you dont even have to fight to complete the game

[graceful oyster]

-#

[cedar trench]

i am going to be extremely direct with you

[exotic cedar]

But but pharloom bay COULD have a wishwall

[orchid spruce]

omg more wish walls, i love wish walls

[cedar trench]

there is another

[graceful oyster]

Have you ever heard of the hit game Nine Sols

[exotic dome]

collect my bells

[queen acorn]

i dont want a unique area bosses i want WISHWALLS i want to WASTE more rosaries and shell shards i want to collect MORE bells for SCRAP CHANGE

[exotic dome]

lost lace and radiance are not easy for first play

[orchid spruce]

so trueee

[brittle hill]

radiance? yuh i beat her too, and she's been less diffucult (at least for me) than nightmare king grimm tbh

[cedar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/eww-umm-no-nope-gotta-go-gif-19119109

[exotic dome]

(for most people)

[graceful oyster]

Steel City wishes have you donate an accumulated total of 20,000 shell shards to rebuild the fallen town

[cedar trench]

keep playing the game and get out of this channel

[brittle hill]

havent finished silksong yet but ima see if the (true) final boss if gonna be gas

[exotic cedar]

Replace normal radiance with absolute radiance, and replace absolute radiance with absolute absolute radiance

[fleet temple]

exploring the world and finding unique interacations by yourself < getting told where to go and what to do by a funny a colour on a wall

[cedar trench]

it lives up to the hype at least difficulty wise

[queen acorn]

and replace absoloute absolute radiance with me

[brittle hill]

id hope so 😭

[graceful oyster]

Oh it's so peak, it's my favorite part of the game you'll love it

[orchid spruce]

absolute absolute radiance is so bright the entire screen is white the whole fight

[exotic dome]

wishes don't even do that they tell you to go under the town and collect bells

[exotic cedar]

Whar the hell you are going to do

What kind of attacks you would have

[cedar trench]

lmfao don't do him like that

[brittle hill]

try fear and hunger too gng

[fleet temple]

well there's also grand hunts and wayfarers

[queen acorn]

"wow i finally got to the final boss of this city of steel i sure wonder who it is"

[fleet temple]

second sentinel deserved better

[cedar trench]

steel lace

[queen acorn]

no its js lost lace again

[exotic dome]

they are on the better side

[cedar trench]

lmfaoooo delete this image immediately

[queen acorn]

no new moves or anything its js lost lace

[exotic dome]

steel assassin lace

[orchid spruce]

steel lace now throws 5 spike traps instead of voids now!!!

[queen acorn]

and THEN we fight hornet 3

[fleet temple]

still kind of robs the game of some experiences imo
like if hk was made today, nosk would be only accessible via wishwall

[cedar trench]

hard to say

[queen acorn]

true

[graceful oyster]

I wish games were as good as Rain World

[queen acorn]

who even CARES

[exotic dome]

ofc they do, there are only about 5 meaningful wishes

[orchid spruce]

Rainslop

[wind mulch]

they mostly are fortunately

[queen acorn]

"hey guys forget silksong discussion in sk-discussion lets talk about [indieslop game]"

[graceful oyster]

You, apparently

[fleet temple]

instead of finding a hidden path through exploring the world naturally, you would've gotten a quest on a wishwall and then the game would've told you where to go

[cedar trench]

it's always the same 3 games too

[fleet temple]

silksong is kinda the anti hollow knight in how linear it is

[queen acorn]

yes bro omd

did you want mount fay advice? well FUCK you more mio talk

[exotic cedar]

I can only think of mio and 9sols
What's the other one

[graceful oyster]

True like omg I love talking about YOMI Hustle, Caves of Qud, and Universe Sandbox

[queen acorn]

indieslop game 3

[orchid spruce]

sometimes we talk about nine sols for extra flavor

[brittle hill]

ever heard of fear and hunger? its a great rpg game with elements of horror and unique combat mechanics and has a lot of hidden lore you're able to explore

[queen acorn]

silksong should be the only game that exists ever

[exotic dome]

wayfarer quests are fun but i would prefer if we met with npcs through natural exploration and made them return to towns

[cedar trench]

when people get spicy on here they talk about how good outer wilds is

[fleet temple]

back in my day it use to be outer wilds one piece and ultrakill

[queen acorn]

i feel fear and hunger soemtimes

[wind mulch]

outer wilds is actual quality slop

[graceful oyster]

No these are 3 random games from my library, OW and Ultrakill are still relevant

[queen acorn]

you joined 1 month ago lets chill on back in my day

[brittle hill]

i feel fearful that might get hungry

[queen acorn]

true...

[exotic dome]

universe sandbox is fun

[wind mulch]

newgens

[cedar trench]

he's not wrong tbh

[fleet temple]

oh people still talk about outer wilds here
bro silksong is literally out wtf are people doing

[queen acorn]

true

[fleet temple]

#sk-discussion message

[brittle hill]

silksong is NOT allowed here.

[queen acorn]

tc sacrificing another backer to the shadow realm for 20 extra minutes of silksong discussion in sk-discussion

[valid sable]

No Silksong, only Outer Wilds

[cedar trench]

went so back i saw an aluomorg message lmf

[queen acorn]

valid but your wrong and im right

[cedar trench]

if you laugh you go to pre-launch r/silksong

[exotic dome]

do you think that backer contents kinda hurted silksongs writing

[queen acorn]

prolly not

[cedar trench]

they had the chance to significantly improve it but tc just took the piss

[fleet temple]

I mean considering it was barely in the game imma say no

[queen acorn]

i mean what of silksong rn is obviously backer

[cedar trench]

i am not biased

[cedar trench]

fucking NO9WTHING ALMOST

[queen acorn]

exactly

[exotic dome]

yeah they feel rushed

[exotic cedar]

They should pull back silksong and work on it for 7 more years

[lavish apex]

you can do this i think

[queen acorn]

this will happen with sos

[exotic cedar]

Problem solved

[cedar trench]

96% of backer content is hidden behind a weirdo quest you get at the end of the game you can trigger by doing some "mew under the truck" bullshit and it's not even that fleshed out

[queen acorn]

"hey guys we had so much fun on sos its becoming its own game starring lace!!!"

[brittle hill]

ts gonna be sea of sorrow

[graceful oyster]

I initially thought all old hearts were backer content, I knew nothing abt the game before I played it

[cedar trench]

also they butchered seth a little bit

[exotic dome]

but that's like.. entirety of act 3

[cedar trench]

yes that's the point

[queen acorn]

yep