sk-discussion

[pallid plinth]

Who pinged me

[strange knot]

Minions fly too…

[charred tiger]

me @pallid plinth

[pale falcon]

Fair

[brave geyser]

@pale falcon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592273977137692683/1493649323689377993/Screenrecorder-2026-04-14-18-27-24-504.mp4?ex=69e45a15&is=69e30895&hm=49453dfb8cdb1c4a9bc5578aaa755c78a079172e706582ea032c14ea77d48e6f&

[strange knot]

@pallid plinth

[trim estuary]

@pallid plinth

[pallid plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-the-eyebrow-eyebrow-of-the-rock-ayo-meme-beak5428-gif-27605761

[brave geyser]

Tacks not good
Snare setter is awesome though keep it

[pallid plinth]

FREE PHARLOOM!

[charred tiger]

i never used snare setter

i just went act 3

[brave geyser]

it does around like 80 damage

has a big enough explosion radius that it can hit most enemies who try to run out

[pale falcon]

Which crest is this?

[orchid spruce]

oh nvm, it doesn't work

that's not as genius as i thought

[charred tiger]

probably hunter

[brave geyser]

Which crest are you running rn? I was using wanderer's because the guy who needed help was using it

[strange knot]

Wanderer

[opaque sigil]

For ||shii? You absolutely can send the elevator up I did it myself ||

[brave geyser]

sawtooth circlet Is what does most of the damage though

[devout dove]

why the fuck is lace so fast

[pale falcon]

I had architect but switched to Wanderer

[exotic dome]

does nine sols have hall of gods

[brave geyser]

Should work

[orchid spruce]

||I thought I could send it to 0 or 1 and just drop down but there's a floor blocking So I have to send to floor 2, which doesn't really help that much, just tiny bit||

[orchid spruce]

yues sir

[exotic dome]

oh nice

[brave geyser]

Don't move alot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1493365182615785583/Screenrecorder-2026-04-13-13-02-37-690.mp4?ex=69e4a2f4&is=69e35174&hm=e3f9ef62ec40ef36db165ca381495db071d4925b44014f62a8ea8bace03f85fe&

[opaque sigil]

???

[devout dove]

ur literally moving alot in this clip bro what

[opaque sigil]

Ok one of our copies is personalized

[brave geyser]

Should've worded it better

Don't run around randomly.

[orchid spruce]

wait wtf it works now

[opaque sigil]

Thanks axelato I really appreciate the shortened run back just for me 🙏

[orchid spruce]

i think i messed up somewhere earlier

thanks

[lusty grove]

anyone say a red tool and I'll defeat Karmelita using only it

[timid sky]

Plasmium phial

[devout dove]

cogflies

[lusty grove]

cogflies it is

[brave geyser]

Silk shot

[devout dove]

or even better, flea brew

[timid sky]

Hello

[strange knot]

Snare setter

[lusty grove]

I don't have Plasmium Phial

nor Snare Setter

[strange knot]

Oh fuck lmao I forgot

[devout dove]

dawg WTF

THIS IS BULLSHIT 💔 💔

[uneven lion]

I’m stuck in sinners road, any help?

[devout dove]

WHY DOES LACE ALSO HAVE CLING GRIP NOT FAIR

[lusty grove]

this is going to be hard

[uneven lion]

Lace was made to be a challenge, one of the first bosses that implemented a similar movement style as hornet, ment to make you think

[devout dove]

oh

okay but i dont think much so this is going to be terrible for me

[vast bolt]

Lace: white body black face
Phantom: black body white face (mask)

What if Phantom has Laces part?

[dire grove]

😮 maybe

[dire grove]

Terrible? Don't you mean AWESOME? (fully broken maso here, less than 300 deaths I give game bad review)

[austere blade]

shaw

[devout dove]

no i dont

i guess you have no will to break, huh

[dire grove]

Yoda : You will be

[hybrid flare]

doesnt fit

[wind mulch]

the themes and such

[dire grove]

Honestly it does feel amazing but its also kinda sad when you beat a tough boss, you gotta say goodbye after all the time you spent together

[devout dove]

no it feels really relieving that you dont have to do that anymore

[runic lynx]

Does anyone have a Polish translation for the latest version, but not from spolszczenie24 or spolszczenie.com? plz

[dire grove]

Hey different strokes, personally I judge a game by how badly I want to start all over when I beat it, sadly sseth(not that one) says lobotomies aren't practical

[pale falcon]

BRO I BEAT HIM FIRST TRY WITH THIS TACTIC

[charred tiger]

what

[pale falcon]

THANK YOU SO FREAKING MUCH

[charred tiger]

you seem to be speaking english

[runic lynx]

for silk song

[pale falcon]

O kurde Polak

[charred tiger]

u can do with that

[runic lynx]

o kurde

siema

[cerulean sable]

i still

have no idea

how the fuck you guys are playing this on mobile

i cannot for the life of me play anything but TRPGs on the goddamn thing

[onyx python]

second sentinel my goat, i hope he doesn't randomly die in act 3 🥹

[orchid spruce]

surely

[quartz cave]

Hello homosexual people

[hybrid flare]

is it a hot take that shit and mid are an S tier boss

[charred tiger]

hollow knight : silksong : sea of sorrow

[orchid spruce]

who is shit and mid

[charred tiger]

who

the brothers ?

[orchid spruce]

string & violin?

[hybrid flare]

yeah

[charred tiger]

who ?

[hybrid flare]

lwk the best duo boss ive ever fought theres a distinct lack of duo fights in this world

[orchid spruce]

nope, not a hot take honestly depends on what other bosses you choose to be S tier

[hybrid flare]

the first difficult mio boss

[charred tiger]

dancers, brothers, is that it

[hybrid flare]

im talking about MIO, not sk

[charred tiger]

ik i was joking

well i knew it wasn't silksong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/355181142342893568/1433203495795687504/why_so_orange.gif

[hybrid flare]

[orchid spruce]

@hybrid flare MAJOR spoilers for: Nine Sols, Blasphemous 2, GRIME, MIO
I put out the MIO bosses you haven't mentioned here before

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/james-wilson-house-md-gregory-house-sparkle-on-and-be-yourself-wednesday-gif-10694982973253766125

[orchid spruce]

you can figure the rest of the A+ is just MIO bosses

[quartz cave]

In todays wilson wednesday:

I am happy to announce i just got a nobel prize

[hybrid flare]

I've mentioned sasuke

[orchid spruce]

you fought sasuke?

[hybrid flare]

ive beaten the game yeah she's fine

[orchid spruce]

sasuke is A+ in mine

[hybrid flare]

def below okuyasu's stand

[onyx schooner]

hi where can i find silksong randomizer

[hybrid flare]

and shit and mid

[orchid spruce]

i didn't like shit&mid's last phase

[hybrid flare]

mr president! another plane has hit ji

[quartz cave]

Tis does not exist yet

[onyx schooner]

ok

[hybrid flare]

WHAT is seth doing next to lace 2

lace 2 mogs

[orchid spruce]

[hybrid flare]

overrated as hell

[brave geyser]

Iam more surprised you made it past the runback like that
Ggs

[quartz cave]

Well some do but theyre like ass

[devout dove]

FUCK YES I BEAT LACE 2

[brave geyser]

ggs ish

[orchid spruce]

it's been a while since i play silksong

i'm honestly fine with removing seth

[timid sky]

How did ||lady ethereal|| get into s

[devout dove]

HOORAH A SILK HEART

[hybrid flare]

introduce second goatinel

[orchid spruce]

by being a good boss

[brave geyser]

second bisexual

[timid sky]

But teleportslop

[orchid spruce]

fought once then forgot

[orchid spruce]

no

[hybrid flare]

Lady E aint that good tbf

she's neat but drags on for too long

Though she's miles ahead of illojuan

and there's even a larger difference between lady E and eggnog

[timid sky]

Who's illojuan

[hybrid flare]

||Jiequan||

[timid sky]

Ah ok

Why call him illojuan

[orchid spruce]

[exotic cedar]

More like teleportgem

[orchid spruce]

I understand fudie's bossfight more than the average player so I see how I may appreciate her more than others

[hybrid flare]

because it sounds similar

[orchid spruce]

It's okay

[hybrid flare]

Who that

[orchid spruce]

I don't understand Second Sentinel hype neither

[orchid spruce]

||Fudie = Lady E||

[hybrid flare]

Oh nah fym, she's widely loved

she just often feels repetitive and long

[orchid spruce]

You probably didn't get enough upgrades before her or something

The amount of upgrades you can get before her is ridiculous

[hybrid flare]

Maybe, but i still had fun she's still S tier in my book

low S tier, but S tier neverthaless

[orchid spruce]

But the average player only obtains about half

or a third if they like not playing the game

I don't have her clips here but my playstyle on her pretty much differs from a first playthrough and it's more fun

I wanna show you why I love her, one sec

[light swan]

im just unfairly biased

i’ve easily had more fun on second sentinel than any other boss

[devout dove]

what am i gonna fight, a yarn ball?

[orchid spruce]

The hype for them is pretty common in the community

[light swan]

and there’s 0 bullshit

[orchid spruce]

I fought them once then forgot, never touched again

[light swan]

it’s always been a top boss, but not a #1 boss like me

[orchid spruce]

Yeah, I don't get that hype neither

I remember the boss being quite boring

[devout dove]

am i cooked.

[hybrid flare]

absolutely not

[light swan]

you haven’t engaged in it yet

[orchid spruce]

And I second-tried them

[light swan]

but i can’t talk because i unfairly loce them

[orchid spruce]

Yeah, that's probably it But I'm too lazy to play Silksong rn

[light swan]

a boss doesnt need to be difficult or something you spend a lot of time on to be fun and amazing

[hybrid flare]

every mio boss took me less than 5 attempts, therefore every mio boss is forgettable (except shit and mid)

[light swan]

that being said, the more time you spend on second sentinel the better they get

[orchid spruce]

Easy bosses aren't as fun imo

[hybrid flare]

wrinkled take

[devout dove]

how do i evade the stupid attack where she just tries to stab me with her claw

[hybrid flare]

jump

[devout dove]

oh

[orchid spruce]

Unless they have such excellent design then it's just a missed opportunity of a great boss in my book (like blueslop)

[lament reef]

I always wondered why GMS wasn't as hard as one would expect (got her in 1 try during my first blind playthrough) and then I realized you're supposed to able to defeat her with no healing, no tools and no silk skills so she can't be too hard

[light swan]

second sentinel is

[orchid spruce]

I want my boss to be at least mildly difficult

[hybrid flare]

easy doesnt equal missed opportunity twinardo

[orchid spruce]

I guess so

[hybrid flare]

every mio boss would be D tier otherwise

[orchid spruce]

you wait and see

[terse heart]

cogfly top 1 best tools

[light swan]

nubbie cant stop hating

[hybrid flare]

Hey, speaking in wrinkled's words

[orchid spruce]

It's just his way of expressing love

[hybrid flare]

YOU are hating on me now

[devout dove]

I JUMPED AND SHE STILL GOT ME

[light swan]

jump better

[lament reef]

is second sentinel considered easy?

[devout dove]

do you want me to jump off the arena

[light swan]

there’s a hitbox and its shown by the smear frames on her claws

you were probabky rifht under her and got hit as she went down

[devout dove]

no

i was jumping and at the corner where she wasnt at the corner

[lucid trellis]

nah, shes easy

[light swan]

yea most people do them first or second try

[devout dove]

i mean. ive died two times to her already so

maybe i js suck idk

[light swan]

you probably just messed up the jump then

[devout dove]

SHE HIT ME AT THE CORNER

SHE WENT UP WITH THE CLAW AND HIT ME AT THE CORNER

[light swan]

probabky jumped too early

[lament reef]

idk why I haven't had too many problems with act 2 bosses but second sentinel killed me at 90% completion during a steel soul run

[devout dove]

NO I DID NOT

[light swan]

ok then you know why you got hit so jump differently next time

[lucid trellis]

do you have faydown?

[light swan]

jump away from the corner so she doesn’t hit you as she goes up

[exotic cedar]

I actually struggled with senti on my first playthrough, maybe it was because i had low upgrades

[lament reef]

then when I did it again I used all my tools and still ended the fight with just 3 masks, like even then it was close lol

[lucid trellis]

did you get better tools, silk skills etc?

[devout dove]

i didnt get skills

[light swan]

second sentinel is famously one of the funnest hitlesses but also harder than it looks

not everyone shares this opinion but i know a lot do

[lucid trellis]

go get threadstorom and cross stitch

[light swan]

if you’re playing safe and trying not to get hit it probabky gets harder

[devout dove]

any more. CONTEXT. on where i get them?

[lucid trellis]

map

[devout dove]

the MAP isnt LOADING

[lucid trellis]

reload it

[lament reef]

I guess it's similar to PV/NKG, it looks really hard at first but once you master it it's not that hard to do it hitless consistently

[devout dove]

DO YOU THINK I HAVENT TRIED THAT

[lucid trellis]

once I actually started looking at there senti was poining it got easy

[lucid trellis]

try again ig, idk

[light swan]

can you chill tf out

[devout dove]

i have been fighting lace for the past hour i have no patience left im sorry im a little mad

[light swan]

i mean i rarely see wrinkled towel hating tbh

towards silksong it’s less pointless hate and more stuff he actually believes in, and it’s consistently just act 3 whereas you it looks like youre trying your best to find any and every nonexistent flaw to “complain” about it

[hybrid flare]

No it is kinda pointless hating, even if he firmly believes it

[hybrid flare]

Bias

[devout dove]

oh what the hell that was so easy all it took was one stagger and some hits

NEVER FUCKING MIND

[lucid trellis]

rocks?

[light swan]

i’ve seen wrinkled towel say good things about silksong before

on his own accord

[hybrid flare]

Ive told you several times im loving mio

[light swan]

you’ve said minimum 1 thing which was the bossfight

[light swan]

^^

[opaque sigil]

No actually you can’t criticize things you like it’s not allowed

[devout dove]

okay im dead again

[lucid trellis]

what crest/tools you using/have unlocked?

[light swan]

it’s like “yea this game fucking sucks the healing is bad every bossfight is bad it’s linear the exploration sucks”

“but yes i love the game im not just hating on it pointlessly”

[devout dove]

i have no shards so im using flea brew, using beasts crest

[lucid trellis]

you can get a shard bundle for 50 rosaries at bell hart

[hybrid flare]

The bossfight is bad is just wrinkled towel slander, most bosses are consistently decent

my experience was linear and the healing does suck yeah

[devout dove]

i'll bruteforce it

[lucid trellis]

I guess that also works...

[light swan]

also the constant lack of spoilers just shows 0 respect towards the game

[devout dove]

i dont need cogfly

[light swan]

i still remember when you flat out stated the second final bosses name 😡😡😡

[hybrid flare]

Towards people if anything, not to the game??'

[hybrid flare]

Well i dont, now if you excuse me ima pull out the flash so you do too

[light swan]

well it ruins the game it doesn’t ruin people

[orchid spruce]

MAJOR NINE SOLS SPOILERS

the reason Fudie is an S tier boss

[devout dove]

rock part time

[hybrid flare]

It ruins other people's experience of the game, not the game itself

[light swan]

i feel like there’s just so many better ways to communicate

[hybrid flare]

and that's if they ever decide to look explicitely for context

[light swan]

that isnt saying something negative every second

[hybrid flare]

Yeah i started making up names for stuff like y'all do

[light swan]

and i’m grateful for that its peak

[devout dove]

and im dead

[hybrid flare]

Hard chicken counter is genuinely a badly designed ability imo

It allows you to do that...

why do any other action when allat can be done with a button

[orchid spruce]

slop opinion

[hybrid flare]

why dodge at all smh

[light swan]

UC is the best

[light swan]

this is the problem with all parries

[lucid trellis]

Idea: stop.
Grab your cocoon and do something else
Trust me, calming down helps

[devout dove]

no thanks

[hybrid flare]

Which is why there shouldn't be a parry for unparriable attacks like what are we doing

[light swan]

this is the problem with all parries

[hybrid flare]

parrying is fine if you're forced to switch up

[orchid spruce]

nine sols spoiler ||i used dodge a lot to cancel UC btw LE is peak||

[light swan]

in my eyes it adds extra depth to a game where everything is pressing one button

[lucid trellis]

have a boss that parries your parry

[hybrid flare]

yeah but you learned the ooga booga chicken counter ways so now you dont

[orchid spruce]

it's literally in the video

😠

[light swan]

because againsr those attacks, youre foced to switch up and UC

[hybrid flare]

I dont really get it, it makes the single button the only thing you need to press, whereas without it you could actually need to use your movement

[light swan]

that being said, the better one gets the more UC becomes everytbing

[hybrid flare]

Yeah uber chicken counter is literally pressing the same button you mash to regular chicken counter

[halcyon birch]

sea of sorrow when

[lucid trellis]

did you complete silk and soul?

[light swan]

youre still pressing other buttons for damage

[devout dove]

what

[light swan]

chai tea kicks still require you to go airborne

[halcyon birch]

sea of sorrrow when

[devout dove]

what is that

[lucid trellis]

the quest you need for act 3?

[devout dove]

no

[light swan]

UC forces you to be on the ground and adds elements of speed as well as holds

it may be the same button but it’s fundamentally different

[lucid trellis]

_ _

[light swan]

obviously at high level combat all of that is thrown out the window

but i do think it’s a good thing for most players

besides, for most casual players UC isnt easy either

[pale falcon]

At this point I mastered the runback

[light swan]

that adds an element of risk reward to it

[lavish apex]

is there anything at all in ns that you need to dodge

[light swan]

tradeoffs that you need to weigh

[light swan]

not really

[cerulean sable]

Forums should be 2x longer in the DLC

[lucid trellis]

ns?

[lavish apex]

nine sols

[hybrid flare]

we're talking about evasion here

and why tai chi kick you can ultra chicken counter redblue moves anyways

and it adds more internal damage aswell

[lucid trellis]

i like your funny words magic man

[light swan]

cant you do both

at the highest level i conpletely ageee with yoy

[orchid spruce]

||yues you can do both if you gud enuf||

[devout dove]

GOT HER

[versed pollen]

Thought you were talking about internet forums for a second

[light swan]

but for 80% of players who aren’t optimizinf the hell out of combat, UC is peak

[hybrid flare]

yeah you can use both, but why use one when you can js hold out and parry everything

you've seen what wrinkled towel did with Lady epstein there

[light swan]

i did

[exotic cedar]

Lady WHAT

[light swan]

^^^ this is still what i think

[slim thorn]

Do yall think that with SoS there will be an small expansion on the memorium?

[light swan]

once you start UCing everytbing things get much lamer

[exotic cedar]

Yeah true, im a pretty average player and can't UC that well so i still have to move (sometimes)

[devout dove]

i did it!!! i beat the silk song!!!!!

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, still not good doe

[plucky stag]

nice, what ending did you get?

[hybrid flare]

I only UC on egrok

[orchid spruce]

no, it's when it gets peak

[hybrid flare]

because egrok forces you to UC

[devout dove]

the one that ends on act 2

[plucky stag]

be more specific

[light swan]

exactly, meaning you didn’t get the slop UCspam experience at all

[devout dove]

err i dont know what its called, but its after you beat gms and it just ends there

[orchid spruce]

that's like saying once you start ||hairpin|| everything, things get lamer (untrue) 😠 (mio spoiler)

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but you can do that n its not very good or fun yk

the anti-parry parry button

[plucky stag]

is this the one where hornet grows extra limbs at the end

[stable mica]

the normal act2?

[hybrid flare]

nah cuz that shit is actually dynamic

[devout dove]

yea

[round creek]

The one where you || bind GMS?||

[orchid spruce]

you don't understand ||UC|| fully

[light swan]

conpletely disagree, while there’s cooler windows that i’ve seen you show grynne it’s just way lamer parrying everytbing

[hybrid flare]

what mogs is using daddy long legs in combat now THAT is true mogging

[plucky stag]

plan to continue or leave it there

[hybrid flare]

glaze

[devout dove]

probably continue, i wanna get more endings

[light swan]

you know how i feel about parries

[devout dove]

and do anything else

[hybrid flare]

ok but sekiro parries are great

[light swan]

normal UC usage adds so much depth to regular parries or combat

[hybrid flare]

go and play sekiro or im mugging you of your steam library

[light swan]

UCspam emphasizes everything that makes parries ass

[lavish apex]

i wish there were more fights that asked for this at all

[hybrid flare]

-Parrying the anti parrying

[plucky stag]

i need to focus on mio and the rest of my backlog

[hybrid flare]

that's not depth, that's anti depth!

[plucky stag]

but i just started sts2 and i'm hooked

[lucid trellis]

now go do silk and soul

[midnight magnet]

parry my bugs ❤️

[plucky stag]

that and i'm training for a speedrun race in a few weeks

[devout dove]

latre............................

[light swan]

you ignored everything else i said earlier about risk reward, tradeoffs, the element of speed, the extra dimension in holds, needing to be grounded

those all add depth

i’d say more depth than just dashing away

[hybrid flare]

No, i just think that it's really not a good reason to have it there

[hybrid flare]

Imo using movement's a better way

i love movement

that is why i absolutely despise the garfield campaign in rain world

[light swan]

when i factor in everything i just said, i’d say UC is more interesting than a simple dash

and in a combat system like nine sols, it’s the aim

anyway youre just explaining every reason why i hate parries so thanks for that

[hybrid flare]

Uc covers many things, not just a dash, it could cover entire comboes and stack internal damage like crazy, that's my main issue

[light swan]

me when i try to actually use movement to dodge an attack for once (NINE SOLS SPOILERS)

[light swan]

and thats only relevant at the highest level, in which case i ageee with you

but for 80% of players thats irrelevant

[hybrid flare]

Ye but once i learnt how to blitz through every combo ever with chicken counter(it isnt really hard at all), it straight up made the game a cakewalk

[light swan]

in which case i agree with you
but for 80% of players thats irrelevant

i dislike that it’s a possibility for sure, which i think is what youre getting at

but it’s still a net positive when i think of how it affects regular players

[hybrid flare]

Even then, holding the same button instead of applying creative movetechs or yk, timing your stuff isnt good in my view

in a timing game

[light swan]

i’d say timing a UC counts as timing stuff

[misty drum]

No sea of sorrow news on my birthday🥺🥺🥺

[orchid spruce]

🙁 you don't understand, there's downdash, jump cancel, turnaround cancel

[hybrid flare]

mid

[unkempt minnow]

is lace fire so far

legs.

[lavish apex]

parries can be really fun when the game doesn't make you use them for everything

[hybrid flare]

sekiro is fun

[untold dune]

nine sols

[quick zodiac]

guyys I just got wall jump

[unkempt minnow]

hm

[errant ingot]

ok thats actually funny

[lavish apex]

illusion says otherwise

[undone cobalt]

Guys I beat Karmelitta sub 2 hours with 7 masks

[undone cobalt]

I am NOT THIS PERSON

[lavish apex]

yeah we have different display names

[undone cobalt]

And your pfp is more zoomed in

[rocky jolt]

is that the hollow knight

[undone cobalt]

😭🙏

[tight viper]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-second-child-there-are-two-of-them-getting-out-of-hand-gif-16342964

[empty yoke]

When is the DLC coming

[undone cobalt]

Anyways

Is this good?

[versed pollen]

no

[undone cobalt]

Oh :(

[versed pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1318001716318437447/1487493401241845810/IMG_5676.gif

[ionic dagger]

Is there an easy mode for silks kong on P5S? I can't afford a PCIe to mod

[lavish apex]

no

[undone cobalt]

Consoles can’t mod

[lucid trellis]

Nope

[ionic dagger]

But why do they want me to spend $1000 to make the game playable instead of patching it

[lavish apex]

it is playable you just have to get good

[undone cobalt]

What’s wrong with the game?

[ionic dagger]

Only the consoles will face the consequence and PCIe can just do it all

[opaque sigil]

if you're having trouble just use the stronger stuff

you can trivialize anything in the game by just using either wanderer or red tool spam

[ionic dagger]

It's very full of retrys and 100 hours

Evil hornet took me an entire day

[lucid trellis]

[hybrid flare]

what is twin playing

[undone cobalt]

Are we talking about the same game

[odd hull]

Evil hornet?

[ionic dagger]

White hornet or whatever

I wasn't paying attention to the text

[odd hull]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-lace-laugh-villain-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-15852753054655955151

[lusty grove]

killing Karmelita using only Cogflies attempt 2: got past the gaunglet

[hybrid flare]

man this is really a specimen

[lusty grove]

I don't even know if this is possible yet

[lucid trellis]

it'll take a long time

[ionic dagger]

My value is better done in Minecraft where my 30,000 sugar cane is waiting for me

[odd hull]

this one?

[strange knot]

How many fleas do you need for blasted steps travel?

[brave geyser]

Mobile player here. The game is very playable

[brave geyser]

15

[undone cobalt]

“Evil hornet” 💀

[strange knot]

Oh ok Ty

[ionic dagger]

How can you

[brave geyser]

Had to betray you right there because that's an ass statement

[ionic dagger]

Ok

[lucid trellis]

youll need 30 max damage cogflies and all of them will need to hit

so 300 shards total

[lusty grove]

each cogfly deals 50 damage before dying
Pollip Pouch deals 3 damage per hit, in 5 hits that's 15 damage
each cogfly can deal 65 damage
Karmelita has 1500 hp
1500/65= 24 cogflies needed to kill Karmelita
I start off with 8 cogflies, and each craft bind resets it
24/8= 3 craft binds needed to produce enough cogflies to kill Karmelita
that means I have to beat the gaunglet with only 8 cogflies or else I can't kill Karmelita

[lucid trellis]

Not counting the gauntlet

[lucid trellis]

oh, yeah, polip

[brave geyser]

Hear me out
Reserve bind, druid's eyes, pollup pouch
And can you add support red tools

[tight viper]

Lifeblood + Druid’s Eyes?

[lusty grove]

...I forgot about that, you are completely correct

[lavish apex]

don't cogflies break in 4 hits?

[lusty grove]

those numbers mean nothing

[lusty grove]

5 hits, not 4

[brave geyser]

Also pollup does 6 total not 3

[lucid trellis]

5

[lavish apex]

oh, huh

[lusty grove]

OOO yeah, two ticks of damage

[brave geyser]

So it's actually 30+ damage per cogfly

[lucid trellis]

So all you need is like... ~25-30 flies for karm

[lusty grove]

19 cogflies

[lucid trellis]

assuming they all hit

[lusty grove]

the second tick of damage from Pollip Pouch matters a lot

[brave geyser]

Aaaand can you use support red tools

[cedar trench]

giovanni verga is so overrated

[lucid trellis]

oh, and reserve bind!

[cedar trench]

insanely hard to take seriously

[lusty grove]

the idea is that I beat her with ONLY cogflies, but I can in fact use non-damaging red tools

[lusty grove]

already using that, it's required or else I don't have enough cogflies

[brave geyser]

I see and are you doing this with or without shell satchel

[lucid trellis]

yeah, good luck, it's probably possible

[lusty grove]

also, I'm using pollip pouch, which means Plasmium is not an option
but Druid's Eyes still are

[lusty grove]

without, I'm not in steel soul

[lucid trellis]

take off pollip, lifeblood is more important I think, if anything just for the survivability while the flies hit

[lusty grove]

alright then

that changes the calculations

[lucid trellis]

thankfully shards don't run out in a dream

[brave geyser]

Ohhhhhhhh yea right right

[lucid trellis]

30 flies total

[brave geyser]

Hold on let's think about this

[lucid trellis]

1500/50

[lusty grove]

I now need 30 cogflies to kill Karmelita (not counting the gaunglet)

which means Druid's Eyes are not optional

[lucid trellis]

the silk from eyes and not healing will help

[brave geyser]

Pollip pouch adds 30+ damage each cogfly while plasmium phial possibly adds just 8 cogflies

[cedar trench]

how

[brave geyser]

how what

[cedar trench]

how does phial add cogflies

[lucid trellis]

but, you need to survive long enough for the flies to hit karm

[brave geyser]

Architect bimd

[lusty grove]

Plasmium adds infinitely many cogflies

[brave geyser]

Iam stupid you are right

[lusty grove]

Druid's Eyes + passive healing + Architect craft bind

[cedar trench]

right this is karm

[brave geyser]

I forgot od was a thing 🥀🥀🥀

[lucid trellis]

And karms attacks do 2 damage twice so eyes proc instantly

I think

[lusty grove]

true, true

[cedar trench]

are we doing karm cheese

[lusty grove]

okay this is the build then

[lucid trellis]

karm, cogflies only

[cedar trench]

i don't know how to feel about steady body

[lusty grove]

keeps me steady

[lucid trellis]

yeah, maybe add quick sling to send out more flies at once

[lusty grove]

good idea

[cedar trench]

i mean the other options all stink so whatever

[cedar trench]

functionally harms your damage total

[lusty grove]

maybe Ascendant's Grip could be useful in certain situations too, and it won't hurt to add it, so I'm putting it

[lucid trellis]

hes doing flies only, dps isn't a factor here

[lusty grove]

how?

[cedar trench]

pouch hits don't stack

[lucid trellis]

pouch and quick sling arent the same

[lusty grove]

I'm not using Pouch

[cedar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/patrik-bottle-hat-gif-26508133

[lucid trellis]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Quick_Sling

[cedar trench]

my bad

[lusty grove]

this is the build

[cedar trench]

iknow i know i assumed you were using both

[lusty grove]

now all it takes is the skill

[lucid trellis]

Looks good

[cedar trench]

why reserve bind

[lucid trellis]

extra craftbind

[lusty grove]

more binds for craft bind

[cedar trench]

right no nail

[lusty grove]

I can't rely completely on Druid's Eyes, they're too risky, especially with no regular bind

[lucid trellis]

make sure to send out flies before oding so you get some value from the craftbind

[lusty grove]

attempt 1 starting now

[cedar trench]

how would you guys fix yellow tools

as a slot

because they all suck bar one or two

[rocky jolt]

make them purple

[normal bramble]

I think it’s fine that they’re generally just ultility tools

[brave geyser]

They are okay honestly.

[normal bramble]

Make spider strings ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING though

[tight viper]

Buff spider strings, replace dead bugs purse with shell satchel completely

[brave geyser]

maybe make it clear that weighted belt gives DOUBLE YOUR I FRAMES?

[tight viper]

That’s all you need to do really

Magnetite Brooch and Shard Pendant are fine

[normal bramble]

Ascendant grips and silkspeed are perfectly fine in what they do

[tight viper]

Thief’s Mark too

[brave geyser]

Boosting shard pendant would be nice though

[normal bramble]

Barbed bracelet is silly

[brave geyser]

Barbed bracelet is pure skill and is really good when you reach that point

it can stay the way it is

[lucid trellis]

make magma bell yellow

[normal bramble]

Barbed bracelet will be an S+ tier tool when we get radiants

Just saying

[brave geyser]

With the buffs it got it is worth a blue slot

[tight viper]

Nah

[lucid trellis]

Giev shard pendant magnetisim

[normal bramble]

25% dmg up for nothing

[brave geyser]

YES.
FUCKIN' YES.

[tight viper]

S+ is for Bolas, Curvesickles, Flintslate

[normal bramble]

Since you’ll get 1 shot anyways

[rocky jolt]

what if we dont get radiants

[normal bramble]

Fair

[tight viper]

And Sawtooth

[normal bramble]

Regular S tier*

[tight viper]

Forgot about Sawtooth

[normal bramble]

Sawtooth I think gets its own special “how did this get past balencing” tier

[brave geyser]

Team cherry was a d1 sawtooth hater and thought it was too hard to use

[lucid trellis]

Make it so that the strings reduce the silk cost of needloin

[lusty grove]

DAMMIT

attempt 1 failed, got to phase 3

build working as intended, issue comes purely from skill

[lucid trellis]

And give brace a bit more coyote time when scuttling

[brave geyser]

Make it so that strings give you silk instead

[lucid trellis]

that would be op

[brave geyser]

i don't know how
Just make it work

it's 300 rosaries ffs

[lusty grove]

I love druging myself in front of innocent bystanders

[lucid trellis]

extra coyote time would be amazing during scuttles

[brave geyser]

Considering sylphsong is a thing already not really

[lucid trellis]

but thats only at benches

[brave geyser]

idk i don't think it's op i think it's fair

especially considering the silk gain won't be that fast

Oh. Right. Parkour.

[onyx python]

should i fight him

[brave geyser]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[lucid trellis]

yeah

[tight viper]

Parkour wouldn’t change anything about it being OP

Hiveblood exists and that’s not seen as op

[onyx python]

btw my build rn

[brave geyser]

right

[lucid trellis]

its plasmification but on every crest

[tight viper]

It’s slow

Silk gain from spider strings would be very slow compared to plasmification, no?

[tight viper]

Solid build aside from the reds

[onyx python]

ts was the most awkward boss fight ever

[slender juniper]

Druid eyes would lowkey be a good tool if it gave double silk for double damage,rn it's just mid because the silk it generates on 1+1 hits is good, it's 2, it only generates one silk on double damage hits

[brave geyser]

Casually walks over air

[normal bramble]

Because hiveblood only heals 1 hp, while plasmification can full heal you

[onyx python]

FR

[slender juniper]

So it's kinda mid ,Team cherry please change this

[normal bramble]

In reality nothing changed

Hiveblood just makes you be more patient

[slender juniper]

Also hiveblood is slower

[normal bramble]

And who wants to wait

Between attempts

[potent vessel]

not me

[tight viper]

Was talking about a proposed buff for spider strings

[normal bramble]

Oh

[potent vessel]

there arent even any hard platforming challenges in silksong

[normal bramble]

Mb

[tight viper]

That would cause it to slowly give you silk when playing the Needolin

[normal bramble]

That would be cool

Mostly because it would guarantee you always being able to get the full dialogue from npcs with 1 silk heart

[lusty grove]

I DID IT

[normal bramble]

So many times I had to go find an enemy to hit just to get an stray bit of lore from needolin cause I was just on 1 silk heart 😭

[lusty grove]

KARMELITA WITH COGFLIES ONLY

[brave geyser]

Proud

[lusty grove]

now for my next opponent,

Crust King Khann

[normal bramble]

Gauntlets included?

[brave geyser]

PLASMIFIED ZANGO-

[lusty grove]

only the fourth one

I've made no calculations whatsoever, so I'm going blind on this one
if it doesn't work then I see what I can change

[tight viper]

Zango sounds impossible to do cogflies only, but then again I’ve been wrong about Zango before

[onyx python]

my reds are like this because shakra + weaver combination ✌️

[lusty grove]

...is that a challenge?

[normal bramble]

He has uh 1000 hp?

[lusty grove]

no wait I can't do Zango

[normal bramble]

With healing

[lusty grove]

I killed him with the Phial on this playthrough and the mod I'm using to refight bosses keeps that information, so he only has 250 hp

[normal bramble]

Ya that probably isn’t happening

[brave geyser]

1000 hp heals 25 hp per second and has bullshit patterns

[lusty grove]

I can't fight him properly

[tight viper]

Create a new save, he’s available to refight from the start

[brave geyser]

I have a file with zango on full hp

[tight viper]

Or fight him on an existing max save that hasn’t fought him yet

[slender juniper]

Why did they cut coral gorge who cares about the lore we want a cool zone

[tight viper]

Hydrophobia

[normal bramble]

I still never killed Zango on my 100% speedrun save

[brave geyser]

Good don't

ass boss with ass patterns ass lore ass name and ass gimmicks

[slender juniper]

Man sands of karak and blasted steps is so mid we could have gotten a beautiful ass area instead we got a Sahara dessert because OF LORE

[lusty grove]

is there a mod that lets you have all upgrades from the beginning? cuz I kinda don't have another maxed save file

[slender juniper]

Debug mod

[lusty grove]

alr

thx

[tight viper]

Patterns? What patterns?

[brave geyser]

I find it weird that his phase 3 and 4 "patterns" are easier than 2 and 1 for me

like seriously it somehow gets more dodgeable

[slender juniper]

I will still never forgive TC for cutting the coral Gorge

[brave geyser]

nobody cares monor (more like moron)

[strange knot]

Zango does not have 4 phases😭

[lusty grove]

every time he loses 250 hp he changes attack patterns

[brave geyser]

Every 250 hp his behaviour changes
Mostly just boosts and a new attack at 500

[tight viper]

Doesn’t constitute a phase change

[strange knot]

Good thing they cut it out, I swear it was gonna be something like verdania

[tight viper]

The 500 does, but not the 750 and 250

[strange knot]

Really pretty but ass gameplay

[icy crow]

Gotta love it how people determine that Absolute Radiance has like 6+ phases solely because she changes her attack patterns

[brave geyser]

i just call all of those phases for better understanding

[tight viper]

She adds attacks

[brave geyser]

Absrad has to be the weirdest case lmfao

[tight viper]

And changes behavior enough for it to be a phase change

[strange knot]

Abs rad has 3 phases right?

[tight viper]

6 really

[brave geyser]

See this is very heavily debated on

just call them by their names

[lusty grove]

there's an invisible wall here

I'm stuck in this hell

[brave geyser]

There is

cry about it

[tight viper]

Phase 2 adds floor spikes, phase 3 is when she centers up and rains swords until staggered
4 is plats
5 is climb
6 is the fun part

[icy crow]

I mean it's pretty funny how people consider it a different phase overall just because of one new attack that applies mid battle

[strange knot]

Oh yeah I forgot about climb

[slender juniper]

No clip

Through it

[strange knot]

I would say she has 4 phases

[onyx python]

goodbye my goat architect

[lusty grove]

oh yeah true

[strange knot]

Thank you for circlet, o7

[slender juniper]

You killed her

If you wouldn't have bought out all her stuff in act 2

[tight viper]

I wish Sawtooth Circlet was real

[slender juniper]

She would have lived

[lusty grove]

...and that's how you skip Moss Mother

[tight viper]

What.

[fiery burrow]

What about 7 where she stops teleporting

[slender juniper]

You monster

[tight viper]

Oh wait

[fiery burrow]

or 3.5 where there's a mini-climb

[strange knot]

I’m doing no drifters cloak playthrough, and it’s for real not real xd

[icy crow]

Some asshole set up a fire outside and now it smells like smoke in my room

[fiery burrow]

tsk tsk

[tight viper]

Right debug

[strange knot]

You just can’t buy it

[onyx python]

the wolrd is cruel

[short roost]

wow I really didn't know that above the forth chorus fight, there are two bombs or whatever you can hit and it drops a large boulder on the boss and kills it

[tight viper]

Saw a drifterless 100% video where that became an issue

[lusty grove]

dammit, I'm locked from Steps cuz Lace is in the way

[tight viper]

Push her off the bridge

[strange knot]

Yeah I’m also doing 100%(99%) drifterless

[tight viper]

Good luck

[lusty grove]

oh wait I can noclip

wait what am I doing at Steps

[tight viper]

Stepping

[lusty grove]

oh yeah, Citadel

gotta start act 3

[tight viper]

Why

[lusty grove]

to fight Zango

[tight viper]

Should be available from the menu

If it isn’t you can attack me with a hammer

[lusty grove]

I can't even access the Pantheon of Pharloom menu with the debug mod

wait

DAMMIT

lost my save file

okay I'm in act 3 with no items whatsoever

[thorn copper]

guys should i buy ori or mio wich one is better

[fiery burrow]

Mio imo

[slender juniper]

Yes because PoP prevents saving

To prevent issues

[slender juniper]

You should be able to I just restarted the game and disabled and enabled both mods and it started working

Alternatively give yourself max everything first in debug

And then enable pantheon

[lusty grove]

I'm currently playing some kind of AU where Hornet shows up after GMS got swallowed by the Void (activated Act 3 with no abilities whatsoever)

[icy crow]

@light swan this video does not run on my end because Discord desktop app sucks ass but yeah

This will be Silksong bosses in 2002

[tight viper]

Yo is that Mario

[lusty grove]

Shakra what are you doing here? you should be protecting Bellhart

[lucid moon]

wth guys

did someone can help me moddding HK ?

[icy crow]

No that's Mega Hornet Silk

[rocky jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983054422806507520/1096128858245304370/9037D7F4-7E97-4883-B2E6-E54C54932371.gif?width=368&height=531

[tight viper]

What is the issue

[strange knot]

Can you get underworks spool fragment after trobbio before clawline

[tight viper]

Which one

[rocky jolt]

acting like anybody gonna know tis

[strange knot]

Or do you need clawline for that

[lucid moon]

can launch my game with the mods activated

i have scarab

[lucid moon]

can u came vocal ?

[strange knot]

Before twelfth architect room

[tight viper]

Scarab is for HK and incredibly outdated

[lucid moon]

okay so whats the best

scarab or other ?

[tight viper]

I use R2Modman

I’ve heard Cogfly works too

Check the #modding-discussion channel, should have a guide or something

[lucid moon]

can u come speak 2minutes and were done

[tight viper]

No, sorry

[lucid moon]

okayyy

np

[hybrid flare]

scarab still works fine

you can manually insert mods into it

[tight viper]

Sure, but Lumafly exists

[light swan]

omg its false knifht with projectiles

[icy crow]

That prick can deal whopping damage though

[rocky jolt]

bro jyust playin anything

[azure mist]

High Halls.

[lusty grove]

how do I toggle the debug mod UI?

[trim estuary]

now make it fly

[azure mist]

Btw, i was able to make a working wheel-thing.

[lusty grove]

I accidentally untoggled it and now I can't do anything

[azure mist]

Using Create.

[thorn copper]

are you making sk in minecraft ?

[azure mist]

Yup!

[thorn copper]

sickk

[azure mist]

Thx!

[thorn copper]

what areas have you done so far

[azure mist]

Parts of Choral Chambers, Cogwork Core, and High Halls.

Technically the Cradle as well, but i'm probably gonna remake that one.

[thorn copper]

wow could you show me one day

[azure mist]

Sure! I'll post some more tmrw!

[thorn copper]

alr bet thanks

[lusty grove]

does anyone know?

[azure mist]

Np!

[lusty grove]

I'm softlocked

wait nvm I found it

hm.

[onyx python]

here's a picture i took of someone while they were asleep

[glacial kelp]

what a weirdo

[lament reef]

It's done

[rocky jolt]

punching babies in public

[lusty grove]

is this enough?

[slender juniper]

For what

[lusty grove]

yknow

[slender juniper]

Damage modifiers make this 5 btw

[lusty grove]

the basics

[slender juniper]

[lusty grove]

wha

[slender juniper]

Nah I'm joking

But you get -5%

Because N4 damage modifier

[hybrid flare]

when they talking about some "peak", but ||crucible|| isnt mentioned (mio spoilers)

[slender juniper]

When they've talking about "mid" but mid and shit aren't mentioned (slop spoilers)

[hybrid flare]

Mid and shit are actually peak and great

i was malding at the fact that they unconditionally 2 shot you

[slender juniper]

False

[rocky jolt]

we really just gotta start talking about mio for no reason

[hybrid flare]

mio-discussion

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-lego-destroyed-sad-pain-gif-20102915

[hybrid flare]

elden ring somehow managing to get 0 good duo bosses

[hybrid flare]

this physically hurt me

[slender juniper]

Put expedition 33 ost over this

[rocky jolt]

me is no like the France

[timid sky]

I love mio

[timid sky]

#2 or #3 game of all time

[hybrid flare]

nah no way

its great but nowhere near that

[lusty grove]

rate my Tormented Trobbio attempt

[rocky jolt]

of all time means oat which means oatmeal

[tight viper]

I rate it 1510/10

[potent oracle]

trobbiooooooooo

[odd hull]

Is that surprising?

[timid sky]

For me it is

Like for me

1. silksong
   2/3) hollow knight/mio
2. will you snail
3. idk

[hybrid flare]

kinda

i mean actually not really fromsoftware doesnt have very good duo or gank bosses in general

[glacial kelp]

oh hey its frito

i saw your sigma and gurt video

[hybrid flare]

who

[glacial kelp]

look like maybe 10 messages up

[odd hull]

Indeed

[potent remnant]

Here's a hot take, the reaper crest is the best crest

[hybrid flare]

thats not a hot take, thats an objectively wrong opinion

contradictory statement but in this case its not

[strange knot]

Do you need all memory lockers for sylphsong(if you want fully upgraded Hunter too)

[glacial kelp]

no

[potent remnant]

It's the only one I use and its fun

[strange knot]

So how many do you need

[tight viper]

Hello

[glacial kelp]

idr check wikky :3

[tight viper]

I need to make a thumbnail for that

Meant to do that last night but got distracted

[hybrid flare]

switch off just for maybe 5 seconds and youll realize that it sucks

[grizzled turtle]

zi is scarily tall

[pallid pine]

Just watched the new mrbeast video, it was pretty good

[untold wyvern]

Genuine question, why does silksong (especially ||in act 3||) feel like just a boss rush? In the end especially it feels like the game's content is pretty much 10 minutes of exploration, then fighting a boss and then another 10 minutes of exploration

The game keeps just throwing bosses at you?

[fiery burrow]

yeah that's the biggest flaw of the game imo

[untold wyvern]

It's really not a great metroidvania in that sense

Is Dark Souls like this as well?

[cedar trench]

no you are correct the third act is extreely weak for this reason

the density of bosses isn't an issue for me

a particularily egregious boss gauntlet earlygame is the act 1 moorwing-splinter-widow back to back but it's not super harsh (sister splinter is a joke) and shellwood takes time to explore

[brave geyser]

Because act 3 is ass

[cedar trench]

act 3 was super unnecessary imo

i'm gonna go on a whim and say it

[hybrid flare]

no it is absolutely necessary

its just.. not fleshed out

[cedar trench]

ok hear me on this

[hybrid flare]

i wouldnt leave skong on gms ending

[brave geyser]

I like the bosses there but that's about all it has to offer

[cedar trench]

you can have another ending just don't tie it to whatever happens in act 3

[cedar trench]

i think the most hilarious joke is that the bosses and areas explored in act 3 could've been at least more fleshed out if act 3 was scrapped as a whole

[hybrid flare]

skong up to act 2 feels very fleshed out but still a lil bit incomplete

[cedar trench]

you still keep the old hearts quest, perhaps tweak it a little bit

you keep the snare setter ending

[hybrid flare]

Old hearts are a big part as to why act 3 feels unfleshed

[cedar trench]

but the snare works and the game ends on a good note

no void no nothing

[hybrid flare]

if there was a whole ass old pharloom to explore act 3 would've been good

[sharp iron]

Ye I rarely share his videos w friends that one was peak ngl

[brave geyser]

yea but who likes happy endings

[cedar trench]

this kills some lace characterization but who cares she's gonna be fine

[hybrid flare]

No, this would've been very dry

like hornet doesnt have to do this

[fresh spire]

WAIT WE USE THE OLD HEARTS FOR THE QUEST INSTEAD OF THE SNAIL SOUL THING

[hybrid flare]

This awell

[fresh spire]

AND THEN WE CAN SCRAP GROAL THE GREAT

[hybrid flare]

it wouldnt have worked

[cedar trench]

just make up some bullshit reason why it works

[hybrid flare]

tc just add a whole old pharloom dream world and my life is yours

[cedar trench]

i don't care

[sharp iron]

Yall I went back to act 1 rn progress in act 2 and I got some things I couldn't get well last thing to check out was sinners Road exploration and now I am in the mist area... don't spoiler the area for Me but if I keep looking around will I find something? I feel like I am in a INF MAZE

[cedar trench]

i want the coral gorge back

[hybrid flare]

its place is more fit to be in a3

in some dream

man i hope dlcs have massive qol in them

[cedar trench]

i'll obliterate a thousand lacenet ships before i let my favorite area die

[hybrid flare]

its alr dead twin

[fresh spire]

bilewater is now verdania and groal the great can get scrapped

[hybrid flare]

we can only hope it is brought back

[cedar trench]

there is some nuance to the conversation

but it's taboo in this server because people have the media literacy of a stone

[sharp iron]

Can anyone tell me if I should keep searching the mist area?

[hybrid flare]

it got scrapped because it didnt fit the overall setting, not dependant on a3's existance

[fresh spire]

Yes

[cedar trench]

i thought you were talking about the ship

[hybrid flare]

a3 can bring it back somewhat if they bothered adding more areas to explore in the shape of old pharloom

[fresh spire]

there's a trick in there

[sharp iron]

hmmm k

[fresh spire]

that will help you navigate through the mist

[hybrid flare]

so many questions answered..

[cedar trench]

i know i'm just acting like a capricious child

tc doesn't owe me anything areawise just video games at low prices in very short timeframes

[fresh spire]

they should've lowkey brought the gimmick with the mist back

that was a really cool idea

[hybrid flare]

tc owes me a good act 3

and the remaking of slab journal entries

yo did the lace guy get banned?

[fresh spire]

tc owes me the minutes of my life back I spent on groal the great runback each time

[exotic cedar]

I think so

[hybrid flare]

why doe

[cedar trench]

this server has very strict moderation so realistically it could be anything

[cedar trench]

you're not getting shit

enjoy SOS so you can stay away from the permanently fucked map

[graceful oyster]

No it does not

[exotic cedar]

Uhhh i think because he was kinda annoying?

[graceful oyster]

But also yeah that is weird I haven't seen Lace around

[exotic cedar]

I don't know tbh

[graceful oyster]

Weirdly peaceful

[cedar trench]

it's kind of like a reverse botw where the world is in perma-apocalypse and when you finish the game the world is still in perma apocalypse but it's 100 times worse

[fresh spire]

wait.

[sharp iron]

Figured it out but now 1 hp sob

[onyx python]

i just binded eva in act 2

[cedar trench]

because YOU did that and you had to do it for the good ending

[strange knot]

Can you get to sinners road from bilewater if you didn’t break the wall before

[sharp iron]

It's the butterflies right? Cuz new area @fresh spire

[cedar trench]

yeah mist

[fresh spire]

Yes

[exotic dome]

he left

[opaque sigil]

it's like how getting to the end of elden ring makes the entire world ugly as fuck except it also makes enemies way more annoying

[fresh spire]

you gotta do that 5 or 6 times in a row

[cedar trench]

is it like endgame or ending the game entirely

[opaque sigil]

endgame

[exotic cedar]

Oh

[cedar trench]

i assume it doesn't get resolved

[opaque sigil]

nope

[sharp iron]

fun ig

[cedar trench]

lol

yeah act 3 sucks primarily because of that

i also have my gripes with the void the amount of quotation mark content quotation mark there is

[fresh spire]

guys about lace being missing

Did someone give the caretaker the snare setter

[opaque sigil]

the transition from the requirements to get to act 3 being opaque and not at all signposted to ubisoft level objective marking

[fresh spire]

||lost lace account is incoming||

[cedar trench]

that's actually one of the aspects i like most about it

it feels very secret and very cool to figure out

[wind mulch]

collect my bells

[cedar trench]

i mean figure out is a big word but stumbling into it is hilarious

might be a new player thing

[exotic dome]

collect my silver bells

they have to be silver

[onyx python]

how i feel after stopping whatever i'm doing to start act 3 because i forgot that i have to complete the 500 year old wish that has the prerequisite of killing 30 mossgrubs with a stick

[opaque sigil]

imagine wanting to do a needle 0 playthrough but you can't because you have to upgrade it to unlock the stupid donation quest which is mandatory

[exotic cedar]

That's supid

[brave geyser]

Imagine having to sell a relic to go to act 3

Imagine missing out on one quest point because you haven't talked to plinney after the first needle upgrade

[opaque sigil]

imagine missing vog and having literally nothing to indicate there was anything there

[brave geyser]

Imagine having to save 22 fleas

[potent oracle]

i didnt want to

[brave geyser]

And yet you must

bad game

[fresh spire]

I wanted to

because of the serotonin boost I get when flea go "awoo"

[potent oracle]

wait did my message go in

[brave geyser]

yes

[potent oracle]

because at the end i said

i needed to

[brave geyser]

It only said you didn't want to

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/flea-flea-silksong-silksong-hollow-knight-gif-16140431973057127550

[potent oracle]

yeah it bugged for some reason

[brave geyser]

So you wanted to go to putrified dicks

[lavish apex]

needle upgrade is a prereq?

that kinda sucks

i mean i don't personally care cause needle 0 in skong sounds torturous

but

[brave geyser]

it strangely isn't

it's just unfun.

very unfun

Unlike onws and 04 which were actually so cool

[opaque sigil]

I don't either but I know of two people who completely independently slammed into that wall and it's very funny

[fiery burrow]

Me

[brave geyser]

I was going bananas on my first needle 0 playthrough on finding out why i can't

[fiery burrow]

Needle upgrade is required for a bellhart donation quest to show up which is mandatory for Silk and Soul

[brave geyser]

this game sucks

[fiery burrow]

Very odd

[graceful oyster]

It's almost like TC doesn't understand mvania metagame

[opaque sigil]

alr make it 3 people

[brave geyser]

and now it's steel soul MINIMUM upgrades not no

ts sounds so ass

[brave geyser]

Biggest fall off of the century (act 3)

[fiery burrow]

Is double jump mandaory because you need it to move around the world or because its an invisible requirement in a quest chain 🤔

[exotic dome]

that's stupid