#sk-discussion
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you get there and there's just
grindle
Why did they make the only difficulty in the game the fact everything does 2-3 hearts a hit
I would bring back that cut room from High Halls
no clue what's in it but I want it back
what cut room
hm?
That's literally not even true.
cut room?
How exactly? Every boss and mini boss ive fought have all done 2-3 hearts, majority of trash mobs also do 2 hearts
huh
literally only final bosses do 3 damage lmao
lol
hear me out, they bring it back in Sea of Sorrow and in it is the Submarine Key that lets you access Pharloom Bay
Yeah, but the game would be difficult either way. Double damage is not the only source of difficulty, lmfao.
Yipee
they REALLY lost that key
Then why do I get 2 tapped by every boss with 5 health
you don't
you don't.
You don't.
I literally do tho
you literally can't
that doesn't happen
you're not paying attention to your health
Ight bet
Do you have something like the Barbed Bracelet on?
unless you equipped Barbed Bracelet like a dunce
literally objectively not a thing
barbed bracelet is the only thing that makes you take more damage
ig that yeah
Jolyne?!?!?
only possible if you have barbed on and take 3 dmg attack
if you are wearing it you might be stupid...
Hii!
man Lake Skip is so fun to pull off
ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAAAAAA
Based as FUCK.
She's my personal favourite. Second favourite is Joseph.
Johnny is probably my 3rd fav.
jodio is also fairly nice
He's a silly 'lil psychopath!
I will never do this and that's okay
He's top 3 most wanted
DAMN.
Lake.
As if other joestars arent
I got a video for u
Fair enough. But Jodio is probably the most evil one so far.
jo"dio"
I bet this is gonna have lore importance later on.
i think it just means hes new giorno
I gotta finish jojolion
That's true. But I hope we get some more lore regarding him!
He'll become the good guy, or die and someone will avenge him
He's definitely getting set up for character development.
Some random person get slimed is the most bizarre way ever.....
DI MOLTO
Oh are we talking jojos or is that done now
Oh nice
I'm almost done reading part 7
I say ALMOST however there's still like 20 chapters left 💔 left off on lovetrain part 1
You should wait until the anime finishes in 3 years
Silksong
Dont get that bud twistd
the SILKSONG is mine, WEAVER FUCKER
ITS NOT, A FUCKING, GAME
FUCK WHAT YOU SANG... its about what youre singing..LISTEN, its about what youre singing, LISTEN
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Idk why you're giving me spamton vibes now
And you aint even using brackets
patience
jump over it, don't land on its hitbox behind it
when it shoots the projectiles it shoots one with a high arc and one with a low arc
so whichever arc comes first the second shot will be the other
any tools recommendation
not really no
silk skill?
a bunch of tools may struggle with its topside armor though
silk skill, whatever you like using, maybe silkspear or cross stitch
err how about like sawtooth circlet
mm, usable but not ideal for unravelled
I genuinely hope we'll get an actual coral tower area in a dlc or something like in that one silksong trailer
sands of karak makes me so mad just because we don't have coral tower, it was my most anticipated area
moves a lot, isn't super tall
its hitbox is so wide tho
mm, remember the hitbox when it rushes across the arena is slanted at the back
should i just voltvessel it atp

alright im voltvesseling it
wanderer crest and a dream
gimme that silk heart boi
holy shit
this guys moveset is so BULLSHIT
how much hp does this FUCKING CHUD HAVEEEEEEEEEEEE
1000
Funfact: Hollow Knight Silksong is actually named "Holmiumllow Knight Siliconelksong" because the "Ho" in Hollow Knight actually stands for Holmium and the "Si" in Silksong stands for Silicone.
guys j JUST beat gms 4 attempts saw tooth thing is the best
sawtooth circlet hits gms?
ggs 🙏
Sos when
You can hit flying enemies with circlet
I think you're thinking of the Cogwork Wheel, which is the red tool
we're talking about the Blue Tool, Sawtooth Circlet
😭🙏
Who is that?
I’m bad with initials man
Oh lol
new star soccer 2012 mobile football game
Gonna make a map where i switch all tbe area's Which area's should i switch
switch abyss with verdania
It has to be the opposite area, So like the citadel with bilewater or smth
I hate french
Play expedition 33
No
Woah that was fast
unravelled
Man seeing the health bar, now I realise how little damage a normal needle hit does compared to skills and tools
silk and soul
Shit boss but not that bad with wanderer
Well I am using the shaman crest and volt fillament so it's bassicaly a 65% damage boost on top of skills usually being around 3x needle damage
oh wow critics hate rain world
and i honestly agree...
the hibernation mechanics don't do well to encourage exploration
Idk what critics rated RW but they didn't hit the magic 4 hour mark
and my survival games instincts would favor survival
what's the magic 4 hour mark?
7 days?
are you are you
You could get that in like 1 or 2h
We should all dance when someone knocks our watermelon.
Good
even after 7 days
You get used to an area if you stick around for a long time
You also are at a high enough sleep point level that you can go anywhere you want
is there any accessability option
i feel like this is one of those games you need 100 hours on to get good 
Good shit bro that’s crazy damage
i don't want to
Karmelita was a 3 min fight for me and lost lace was 5
Also the hibernation mechanics do well to encourage exploration within a region before you're ready to make the commitment to a new one
But even if those mechanics didn't jive with you, they updated the game with a TON of customizations that allows you to tweak the hibernation mechanics if you want
Okay
There are a lot of accessibility options
It's called Remix and they're pretty much essential to curating an experience you like the most
I use a handful of them
May i join?
I trust you
Vast, speedrunning this game is super fun and there are 2 major base game campaigns, one of which is a hardmode with a countdown and a score screen
Have however much fun you can
Thank you
-# something about silksong
-# Something about silksong
Also the magic 4 hour mark is when the game theoretically clicks with people after reaching a certain point. It can be kind of a slog until then, but afterwards, I hear nothing but praise
Myself included. I was not a fan and had to keep telling myself it would get better
It did.
I didn't think it was slog, I like survival games
Wonderful
There was just no clear progression
nice
Yeller feller
Yada yada
Average shamam gameplay 😭 what the heck
Shamam falls off when you run out of silk thank god
Still crazy because egg of flealia
silk skill slop
they should remove silk skills and red tools
too OP, the nail is enough
Silk skills are very fun
silk skills suck
I love using cross stitch
Also bind, why are you even getting hit? Just install an easy mode mod at that point
funslop
you only like silk skills becuse they're fun and unique
its qualityslop
exacly
shit
schlopity schlop
I FINALLY GOT CLING GRIP
throw
hey who threw that
bell thrower bug did you see who threw that bell
i didnt
catch
Yea but then I just get it back
The range is crazy the ground only bind is definitely neccessary as a nerf
I agree with Conquest
why does widow throw bells at me
Cause she is in bellhart
holy siht
i beat her 2nd try with one mask tho. bell that prevents dying while you're binding saved me
WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHES NOT FUCKING DEAD
THATS SUCH BULLSHIT
Idk what tc was smoking to give shaman the longest range
ya know. i dont like widow.
And because the point of the crest is for you to focus your silk on skills and not as much on binding, them making the Shaman bind have a catch to it makes sense as well
Yeah shaman is basically kills and dies faster
But the faster kills makes up for dies faster bc you can get good enough to not get hit
Yea it's just that simple honestly
Cross stitch is my fav silk skill
Yea it's pretty fun
Just made it to Bilewater. I already hate it here 🥀
Would flea brew give you more dps?
Do you have double jump?
what if instead of Silksong it was Silksong and nothing changed
Wanderer, 1 red slot sadly
Hunter is a nice choice but i have to damage boost so i start with 0 focus
factual
My 2 main crests are wanderer and hunter
bro just start with t1 focus
👍
Yea, I'm pretty sure I have all the abilities unless there's something else to get in Act 3
I take dmg due to getting hit for early control
Yea I know it has one red slot but I mean will using it it give more damage instead of having flintslate
You got all act 2 then
I don't know it's exact numbers
No.
Flea brew is either +20%, +25% or +33% depending on crest
Flintslate is + 50%
I BEAT WIDOW
It also has the burn damage which is 4 x 3 ticks so 12 and you can get 1 or 2 per use.
Flea brew lasts 10s instead of 8s atleast
nice one
what does the needolin do
Silk the song
its kinda like dreamnail
Play music
ooh
Its not thoughts, its either memories or singing
So basically:
Always use flintslate over flea brew if yoy have both
Idk can't you just not tho
Early control
Works
By taking damage
No cstitch dosen't work
yeah but I feel like you'd get faster just using 2nd focus
It is like, 6 seconds of timesave
Amd the run lasts undner 30
Guys I cant lie widow is pretty good I was kinda wrong shes fun unlike the traitor lord who is the definition of hell on earth
Traitor lord is just huge
Guys widow is literally harder than gms
I told you Widow is Amazing
Gms is easy as heck
Sadly true
Yeah I was right
I have a presentation rn wish me luck
Traitor lord is okay
I do think Traiter Lord is a decent boss
Moorwing harder than gms
guys after killing gms can i fight it again?
Yea unless your in Act 3
Gms is a low bar
If you do most endings yea
Kinda Boring
does it allow that bcs you didnt use needoling
Bell beast harder than gms 😭✌️
True
Not fun
Also difficulty spike early gane
Moorwing gets decimated by just jumping and attacking near him
Ngl moorwing is all.about ragebaiting them and destroying them with pogos
guys does nothing happen after killing gms but not using the needolin
You get 1 ending that's all
Maybe a check mark in inventory
And achievement ig
Moorwing is only hard if you up slash the whole fight
there is a secret third ending with gms
The point of the game is that you're in pharloom
That's why you play when pharloom is in hell
how
acctually is the cursed ending locked off if you've already set up the snare setter?
You just got the base ending the game doesn't need to give a huge reward for that
get infected
Nahuh
Nope
i thought i would need to restart the whole game then get to gms again then use needolin
Normal > infected > act 3 > normal true > mushroom boi
got all psalm cylinders, now going to get all relics
Yeah you can
Beat gms
Get cursed
Beat gms
Abortion
Silk and soul
Beat gms
Beat act 3
nah the game doesn't really end in any of the endings
you just go back to your last checkpoint
3 relics are act 3 locked
Even in HK you can get all ending in 1 run you get need to make sure to beat THK before Void Heart
so you can restart the end game kinda bosses?
wouldn't it be easier to bind her after getting the curse remove
you get the option to either bind her or play the needolin
I guess
I was just talking order wise but yeah
good thing im in act 3 then
yes both final bosses are replayable an infinite amount of times
It's the same as HK other than Godhome
guys why cant i keep the silk bar after binding gms😭
100% as well, just tying up some loose stuff before LL in preparation for the DLC
Get all memory lockets
guys is there stuff that isnt accsesable after act three?
I miss when games had post-game cheats, imagine if you could play silksong with the weaver queen crest
probably going to do that
get dlc first
like how the blade of olympus is a permant sub weapon after you beat gow 2
Yeah a bit.
Mostly quests
There is 1 boss you can only fight in Act 2 which you cannot fight in Act 3
the fuck you mean after act 3
after u enter act three
shakra's boss fight, some npcs die but that's it
ohhh
fym enter act 3?
is the throwing rings still possible
Oh yeah
Shakra
And I guess some bosses become voided making them harder
Thats required
Namely, EGG
all unbought items from pebb and the far fields guy are now in grindle's shop
theres like 5 acts
also the dice
required?
Unless you mean throwing pins
so i need to do trails end?
yes you need to do shakra's quest to get act 3
Yes
Yea it's mandatory to reach Act 3
you don't need to beat shakra though
wut will happen if i dont
you just don't get the silk and soul quest
You don't get silk and soul
You just won't get the quest to go into Act 3
so u get softlocked?
no
No you just have to finish the quest
act 3 is just locked until you do the quest
you don't have to restart the game or anything
i thought u instantly enter act three after playing needolin
you can get the normal and cursed endings all you want they just sent you to your last bench afterwards
You need to do a bunch of stuff to reach Act 3
Yeah but you can't
conquest plays silksong omg! 😰
You need like 22 fleas, double jump, beating Lace 2 doing some mandatory quests getting a bellhome key and getting certain amount of quest points and probably some more to get the quest to reach Act 3
Me with sherma
I thought you just needed to do every quest
No but each side quedt gives you "quest points" and you need a certain amount of those points
You don't even need all the quests
do the supply quests give you points?
Like 10 mandatory quests and 17 quest points are needed
Yea like 0.5 quest point
Yes I think also better to do them before the map get cancerous
weird
I did every quest I could in my first playthrough whenever I didn't feel like advancing the main game
Silk and Soul is just made such that when you try to fully finish everything in Act 2 you will stumble upon it
I didn't even know I was supposed to do that for act 3 acctually
Yea Team Cherry wants completionist to find it
pear: toby, give him a beat!
Annoting orange: wooaahhh!
So happy team cherry rewarded me for procrastinating the main story❤️
I love wish walls, very fun on a first playthrough and very good for Hornet's arc
Ngl it should have been clearer you do my fay after clawline
I thought you needed djump to do mt fay, not that is where you get it
The hook thing is the sign
I practically just rushed the main story I beat GMS even before getting double jump
I didn't see it
well I saw it
I saw mt fay before clawline and didn't see the fuckass ring and thought i need djump to get past the first room
How did you finally figure out you could do Mount Fay without needing double jump
I looked it up online
I did almost everything without djump i can
Was like " there is a clawline ring there??? "
That makes sence
I did lower bilewater and got transported into the slab a 2nd time ( first saw it from the citadel side ) and just left because i alr saw that room
I already knew a decent amount of spoilers before playing Silksong so I knew that Mount Fay had double jump
Well that ruins the suprise
Steel soul is making me lose my sanity
Anyone got that vhange your mindset video
Then again a friend of mine is saying it works for them
Change
as a chess 2000 calling the friend instead of playing E6 loses the game
finally we have a better farming spot than grand reeds
Anklets to save walk time
Or clawline
must have been the wind
What about hunter with focus and needle strike
To kill in act 2
IM SO FUCKING COOKED BRO. GREAT CONCHFLIES??? I JUST GOT HERE
Iam pretty sure all crests should work except wanderers
They are 75 hp
I forgot damage value for all crests but i guess you can needle strike with hunter and hit them once or so
don't sleep on barbed bracelet it does put in work
You only deal 64 with needle strike archi on needle 3
So they had needle 4.
still just an extra hit
anything faster than 2 hallways of grand reeds tbh
Especially considering each one has 130
Clawline
okay i dont think i have that
no
lies
it’s hornets special ability that’s unlocked at the start of the game
you gotta press alt-shift-p
and it lets you hold onto those and jump from them
says the person with "hk 10000%" in their name
trust
Thank you lost lace 0:49
Lost lace 0:49???
Because you were like, dun dun dun dun dun dunnuunnununununununnuununnynunnu
Oh right
bros odin din done
yes
only against air bosses really
I have a strange case where i constantly use it against phantom during the lunge attack
Mostly on all bindings though
yo how do i unlock this
go around (bottom path)
theres also more stuff you can get i think
yes and when I get punished for it, it makes me so mad lmao
not so mad but i do get annoyed
because i keep trying to use the iframes
I only use it when it's nessasary
i mean, if im fighting something at range i just use the silkshot
yw
Good Luck for the fight
ty!
mae sure to gave magma bell
Don't be greedy just time it right and get hits when you can
Last Judge seems so Menacing and Hard at first but once you learn her attacks she becomes so much easier
alright
Magma bell is an item that reduces lava and fire damage from 2 masks to 1 mask
k
It's useful in a surprising number of fights
magma bell, reduces fire damage to 1 mask, you get it from forge daughter in deep docks
what the FUCK do i do against the last judge
Hit it while not getting hit
you're so helpful!
Its the first big skill check in the game, for me it was like mantis lords, I just bashed my head against it until it worked
Just try to use warding bell if nessecary and sting shard is real good
i do use w.bell
I found Widow to be the 1st real skill check in Silksong
Oh true I forgot her
Also just bashed against her until it worked to be fair
Maybe I'm just stupid though LMAO
okay that fire part is rather irritating
I would say Widow is slightly easier than Last Judge in 1st playthrow and Widow is a good amount harder than Last Judge in repeat playthrows
I love the fire moves
good for you
Once you learn how to dodge them it becomes really fun
It was one of the things in the game where I was like oh I've got the rythm now! followed directly by WAIT NO IT DOES WHAT???
whats the song called that plays here
I mainly use it against Nyleth and Pale Stag
deep dive or smth
i listened to last dive and its just the cutscene song
Guys what's the update that my PS5 has downloaded?
Anyone knows?
Clawline is good against all the bosses which stay on the air or teleport everywhere
Probably Patch 5
canon event
Didn’t you see the smoke from last judge
hhehahaha
Canon event
Nevermind
I am surprised how many people fell for it
natural silkection
Re-beating Last Judge shouldn't be so hard now that you know her moveset
You can tell the boss is exploding by the smoke
IT WILL BE BRAH
Only 2 bosses have on death explosions
Last judge’s explosion damage got nerfed
who's the other
Also they nerfed the final Last Judge in a patch to deal 2 masks of damage and be affected by Magma Bell as opposed to pre patch where it deals 3 masks of damage per explosion
Father of the Flame I think
Father Of A Flame
oh
In wisp thicket
Depends on when you fight it
that purple item
okay. beat her for real this time
Good luck bro
I told you it shouldn't be too hard since you have learned her moveset
act 2!!! hoorah!!!
yes
Which heart are you struggling with
DUDE THE PHASE 3 TRANSITION ON LL IS SO GOOD
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO
It is time to rain my world
Coral tower
good luck
don't die, that one's very important
you can also get a shortcut
Coral Tower is really hard use tools as you won't lose shell shards in heart areas
Where
guys ive been waiting for my hollow knight plush for 3 months and its supposed to come april-june what are yall predictions for when its coming
I suggest you to avoid the elevator
Shortcut
After you beat the first 3 guantlets
DID THE ELEVATOR BREAK.
Nevermind
Alr
I think you just got scammed 
i ate the mechanism sorry
gl getting out
WHAT THE FUCK
why would fangamer scam me 
cuz rhe fall hurt
oh a bench........yay
you'd be on 1hp too if it happened to you
does he know
dawg i dont have that much silk
And is way more OP compared to HK heal
I wish i could buy plushies
THE FUCKING ELEVATOR. ACT 2.
does @devout dove know
They are in Underworks after the elevator fall
the bench
How was the fall
No he entered the elevator in the grand gate and fell in the underworks
know what
you said there was a bench
It’s only 15 rosaries
I guess you can skip the Elevator to enter Act 2
a'd after
nothing happened
But it’s a temporary bench
Stop sitting on it
when you stopped sitting
15 rosaries for a death is a deal lowk
think my brain is frying.
i meant bench. not death.
sit up
Nobody knew there’s a secret breakable wall (on their first play through)
You don't have to pay 15 rosaries if you die
wgat.....
15 rosaries for one use, yues sir 
just do phantom
Yea and also you have to rearrange the platforms with up slashes which most people won't do
Most people did last judge
WHY IS THE UNDERWORKS SO HUGE

i feel like last judge is harder and better for beginners but phantom is just to cool
It's a important area and the actual Citidal is bigger
It's a slop area in repeat playthrough
Just explore it you will find the exit eventually
I just skip it every replay
i died to a saw brick
I only did the underworks in my first play through and then skipped it on my second
lore accurate brick vs hornet
What are the chances we get sea of sorrow on late April
12
You hate Quirrel just because of Uumuu right
Did anybody even find the secret grand gate breakable wall in their first play through
i died to this thing
Hate Ummuu instead but it's your choice
Not when you have reaper crest
i hate this area. so much.
I think they are the smallest enemies that deal 2 masks of damage
Most people hate Underworks it's a canon expirenece
Just find a vid to help you if you’re struggling
WHY THE FUCK CAN THIS STUPID BUG TURN INTO A DAMN BEYBLADE AND DO TWO MASKS OF DAMAGE

and i lost all my fucking rosaries
i love when games torture me, it's so much fun
i don't
I had to physically restrain myself from talking about MIO
Uhm, anyways, MIO's version of Primal Aspid works because of its awesome combat system 
lore
You’re getting closer to the exit
walked right into the fucking big bug
Just spam the straight pin behind the gauntlet area it will cheese the first wave
ohhh it's that enemy
it's easy you can do it
Anyone else feel like that (True ending spoilers) ||Lost Lace wasn't a very satisfying end fight?|| It was a good fight, don't get me wrong, but I just figured there'd be something else after that. Instead it just... ends? Like "yep you win congratulations" and then it's done.
yeah it was a bit disappointing
I found her really satisfying for a True Final Boss
I FINALLY GOT OUT OF THAT HELLHOLE OH MY GOD
yues sir, join us
we are "silksong story sucks" gang

WHY IS EVERY AREA SO BIG
I never really cared about eighter game lore that much I like LL just because she is an amazing boss
Amazing is stretching it, but she's good
lace again again plus the same attacks every enemy has been spamming the whole act 
The game is really big also I am pretty sure Silksong areas are slightly smaller than HK areas
fair
also lace's here again, gotta fight her i think
Yea I am fine with that because it allows her to become the most complex boss in the game
Yues, Lace's moveset never gets old, for sure 
lace's moveset is fine but ll takes a lot of the fun out of it because of the teleport spam
nvm she ran away
and voidspam
Radience is so slow like Abyss Shreak spam destroys her
idk about that gang, rad is easy but Traitor Lord is like EASSSYYY

black projectile spam on a black background 
It's the same with Radience
one side of the arena nerfs you
Abs Rad is def harder than Traitor Lord just cuz if you get bad patterns or slip up you lose SO much hp (esp if overcharmed) + most people have nerves cuz they're at the final fight of the p5 gauntlet. Regular Rad is cakewalk tho
They are talking about Base Radience not AbsRad
i honestly think i only like her as much as i did because of the theme, it's crazy good lmao
the phase 2 transition into the music was so good
I assumed so lol but yeah base Rad is easy unless it's your first ever time fighting her or smth or if you're really undergeared idk
Cornifer
??? 
Not immune to getting his guts ripped out of his shell by infected bugs 
Let me kill moths in peace damn it
this lace guy knows less hk lore than i do 
y'all cannot be that easy to ragebait
No, never
everyone can get infected, only a matter of fast or slow. cornifier is new to hallownest also.
then what i'm not saying anything lol

like, you saw Sly getting infected briefly at the start
yeah, sure, mantis
whatever soldiers etc
i'm just saying the infection is deadly to bugs even if they don't/can't get infected because they can still be killed by other infected bugs
Some bugs are likely to have a resistance to it, because they're already satisfied and aren't tempted by the false promises of the Radiance
another one lost to mid
like Emilita didn't get infected cuz she shut herself out and she's a huge narcissist who already thinks she's literally perfect
it's not 
probably strength of mind because zote exists
i like different things, i love don't starve together, do you? 
if you have a resilient mind OR if you have an incredibly weak mind (to the point of not having a consciousness) OR if you never dream
so we may have varied taste
it might be better if you turn off karma gates but eh the enemies also just suck to actually interact with
dont starve mentioned
You save everyone who's still alive because even if they aren't infected now, they may become infected later or be killed by infected bugs
dont starve is peak, don't starve together is also peak but kinda bloated
either way it's peak
things that aren't conscious still have enough of a mind to get infected and everything with any sort of mind dreams
the bugs in the borderlands just outside of Hallownest are immune to the infection cuz they're brainless idiots but they're still alive
the only thing i dont like is the lack of equipment, you use the same stuff to kill people from the start to the 50th boss of the run
they're not infected yet but they're not too dumb to get infected, fool eaters are literal vegetables and are infected
Sly and Bretta begjn to fall to it, but you break them out of it. But that doesn't mean they or other characters won't give in later, whether from depression or just giving up idk
i never liked don't starve combat aspect so it's not my issue. i just like the sandbox, combined with challenging survival, unlike minecraft where survival is guaranteed, basically
and lightseeds are infected single celled organisms
yeah i'm glad that the combat isn't the main aspect of the game lol
you free all the zombies from eternal torture (well, eternal unless theyre not "conscious" when they get the infected husk guard treatment, but can dream anyway. assuming thatd happen to everyone eventually)
the dumb part was just me being a dick to those bugs, they have "no mind to think"
Those aren't the other two people but fair
they aren't sapient but you don't have to be sapient to get infected
I liked Radiance because you're fighting a god in their own realm. You literally can't get more ambitious than that. The thing with final bosses is that they're GRAND. They're something you look at and you're like "what the hell is that". LL was mostly just "I have to save her" than anything else. And once you do, the game pulls out "Oh you saved everyone else too btw". Every final boss in both games is POWERFUL. Someone who could literally squash you like a bug. But you fight anyway, not because you think you can win, but because you have to. You have to because you're too deep in. You have to to save everyone left, because every life is worth saving, because no matter how many people die, more could follow if you don't do something. You have to fight because no matter what, this person is a danger to everyone you care about, everyone who means something to someone else, everyone who matters. You fight because no matter how hopeless it is, it can always get worse. Because no matter how little you have, you ALWAYS have something to lose. Something worth protecting no matter what. LL is a good fight, yes. But it doesn't give you that feeling that you need to Persevere, if not for any other reason, to defeat the thing plaguing the innocent with death, corruption, and destruction.
theyre just not infected because rads influence hasnt spread that far. once she was out of thk done with hallownest they may well have been next
rad climb goes hard
My goat sherma
this channel is slop
save hornet 🔥
Gng the Radiance is NOT gonna stop at Hallownest. The MOMENT it can spread more, it's taking over everything
I mean why would it matter to the ghost who dies
since you might not be aware literally everything that person says is ragebait and you shouldn't respond to it as earnest ideas
And who says she won't ever get more powerful?
why wouldn't it
that doesnt explain why it helps out randomly and gives people flowers and goes out of its way to save hornet by destroying the black egg but not her in the process (also silksong)
tbf tho fuck godseekers waking self i guess 
Whats stopping hallownest getting revived
Just like what happens when you kill green prince and verdania regrows something can happen to hallownest too
Cuz he's almost void in my perspective, he only has a little bit of sentienve and he's only doing it cuz of pale king
There may be travelers and shit
the kingdom is pretty thoroughly dead and it's about letting it finally rest, other stuff can occupy the ruins though
The knight is implied to be an impure vessel, right? Could have sworn it was.
ok that's like just not true
yeah it's uh very not pure
Maybe it's kind of brainwash
How fast does the rosary cannon shoot?
everything gets infected from plants to wild animals to single celled organisms to whatever umas are in canon to whatevers going on with shadow creepers. i think if you can dream its fair game for her
I hate when people call Hornet "the Silksong" 
move less
i love when boss design makes me move as little as possible 
yk what, i move lost lace down, this bitchass boss
wdym, like standing still??
Lost lame
why is it so motivated to stop the infection if its goals are random then. why would it have a deep reaction to the birthplace cutscene to begin with if it doesnt care
is this a new agenda
don't run away from her, keep her on screen at all time
Yeah I'm stupid xD
But why does ghost want to save the kingdom
don't do any unnecessary movement
but shye keeps teleporting, throwing random dashes, and jumping up and keeps parrying me
Because Soul taste better than Infection
it's answering a call it may not entirely understand, its decisions are motivated by stuff it encounters during the game like confronting the cost of the attempt to save the kingdom and its enduring stasis
all the people who keep endlessly coming to hallowest that elderbug describes, like cornifer and tiso. tbf, hornet used to kill these guys herself, im just not sure she did a good job of it, 'cause of the brand i guess 
Call from the hollow knight??

He stopped being hungry and locked in
that's the implication though it's also entertained as a possibility that it's a call from rad herself, adventurers have been getting called to the kingdom like that for a while
Silksong players encounter soft magic system and become utterly confused 
it might prefer to destroy the radiance but considering ending a its probably more about stopping the infection, specifically. theres an off chance that its also about freeing thk specifically
If I had to guess, it still sees the mantis tribe as a threat. It might not have fully processed the fact that it's gained their respect, and therefore won't be attacked. Nothing else in Hallownest acts like them, so the knight doesn't have anything to go off of.
Oh that's pretty cool, feels more like it definetly is a call from the knight
Maybe the Knight came back because it is pretty much Genetically coded to Seal/Kill the Radience, Not being called, Responding to a Breach.
where tf are other messages
there's too much going on...
that seems more likely given the intro cutscene yeah
💀
but the game acknowledges both as possibilities so worth mentioning
if thk dies all the future generations of explorers will just get infected or killed (and then infected) faster since she wont be trapped in thk
Yeah cool stuff, i wonder what type of game tc will create after silksong is finished
yeah I'm curious, it sounds like it's still gonna be exploration based but maybe not as strictly in the MV genre and with more unique gameplay, we'll see in, uh, whenever that happens 
There's no way the radience calls for the knight to be killed
thats stupidity
Also definetly feels like they are gonna create shorter games now with how much they did with silksong
nobody is saying that? there's a general sort of attraction to hallownest nobody's saying she deliberately targeted the knight
Who knows tadc
Silksong act 3 is also kinda like that
guys, why are we unironically saying aura
Its literally BREAKING the HK, so it screams in pain. the knight hears so, and since its pretty much genetically coded to do its ONE purpose, So he doesn't Come back by Intention, He's just responding to a Breach.
which is also being called back by radiance and also that's just not true about the knight it's its own individual
Lace didn't do shit, all she did was save Hornet last second (which, is good character development AND good character writing, but she didn't do ANYTHING to ANY god
I lov it when jax's eyes go like
🌒 🌘
The knight doesn't have no feelings tho? It was gen 1.
...well, thats the ticket, isnt it? we cant kill them, so that in and of itself shows there is probably a difference. that or team cherry just really didnt want to make random fail states and forgot to justify it
but admittedly idk either since "the mantises kind of suck" explains why it might still kill them but not why that wouldnt lead to the respect thing being contrasted with a "we'll still fight everyone" thing or smth
it does have feelings
Lace is not written strong enough to carry the game's entire "theme" on her back (it switched themes half way through
). Act 2 should've focused more on her and GMS, and all that.
A vessel has no feelings, so False
it does lol
So true
winged nosk, the whole process of creating void heart, flower stuff, etc
Prove it then
play the game?
GMS is a better written character than Lace, like tenfold. She's so nuanced and understandable despite few appearances.
Nosk is not a vessel-
Lace is one of the characters in silksong i just don't care about
I honestly don't care about any of team cherry characters
They all kinda stink
Void Heart is a Heart made of Void. Void is nothingness
winged nosk changing its form to hornet indicates the development of an emotional attachment because that's how nosk's hunting strategy works
i wont disagree here but the knight is portrayed in a fairly specific guy for the vast majority of the game, its clearly got its own set of actual motivations
Its the Pantheon and im sure its not really "Real" though I cant be sure
the process of its creation is the knight facing its past and forming a resolve to take accountability for the kingdom's future, to decide to let it die or preserve its stasis, that's a fundamentally emotional process
- Again, Nosk is not a vessel.
The void heart is just straight up not a heart. It's called that, but that just it's name
READ
Void is enough
Silksong players can't read, WTF 
literally
what about pious isamor?
there isnt any evidence of that. until recently she didnt affect deepnest or the hive either, so if the game took place during that period would we just have to assume she couldnt eventually reach that far ever? (especially since theyre not actually part of hallownest anyway. maybe the beacon still encompasses them tho)
The knight is gen 1, it left through deepnest after failing to be first in the Abyss climb, it still will fight any threat as it exists with a purpose.
It's a soft magic system, you dumbass 
so you literally aren't reading my messages there is zero relevance to anything I said
it Becomes Secondary when the Pure Vessel is Chosen, it leaves because there is nothing to do.

You said the process of its creation.
of VOID HEART's creation
SPECIFY IT
Damn it bro💔
Secondly, the Knight Does so, to Kill the Radience. it has no mind to think in any other way
I'm impressed little ghost. You've burdened yourself with the fate of this world, yet you still stand strong.
To break the Dreamer's seals would alone be considered an impossible task, but to accept that void inside yourself, that casts you as something rather exceptional.
this notion of acceptance is fundamentally an emotional one
it does a ton of stuff outside those parameters
also, it's a fucking soft magic system. does anyone know what a soft magic system is 
Ts just hornet saying random shi, The Knight doesn't gaf and just goes on with his mission.
media literacy is dead man
hornet still prefers to live in hallownest after silksong and she has expectations of herrahs final resting place (possibly metaphorically, but i think she probably does imagine itll happen) being enshrined, so i mean yeah the ideas definitely that peoplell be able to live in the previously infected areas after its all over, though it wouldnt really be hallownest anymore
it doesn't need to explain why, it just needs to stay consistent with rules it established
I am NOT staying in pharloom either blud💔💔💔🙏
if it hasn't established it, then it can stay unexplained because it's part of a soft magic system's charm
yues whatever
and also racist that was a pretty good move
whatever could happen when void consumes and transforms a symbol of rulership that contains infinite power and represents the knight itself
then just dont say she cant do it. howling cliffs is already past kings pass though, so she already is stepping out of the kingdoms bounds and into the wastes, but its true we cant know what shed actually do once the time came
i give up
time to rain my world
It is a tool to be used for Dream Entrances. the reason Its THE VOIDHEART, is because you're entering the God of Dreams and Light. so no shit you will need some Anti Matter Charm to enter
Don't forget what she did to green prince...
don't get me started it's genuinely crazy that shit made it out of a rough draft

(sherma u GOTTA figure this shit out for me i do NOT want to be responsible for this shit 🙏)
yeah the coherence of murdering 1 of 2 innocent people so she can have their heart as a trophy
these are a lot less bad than the racism since they're motivated by gameplay at least in karm's case
no, u dont understand, it adds nuance to hornet 🤓
He really doesn't care about unity of the void. he just wants to Slime the radience
Because the knight is a hunter just like hornet
No he's hungry
damn, rain world is heavy
A very Hungry Knight
4GB 
may 29th yessir
That still happens when you don't get captured
who she gonna call? the cops? -the flies, aka the police
oh is chat in a racism apologia mode nvm I forgot how genuinely reprehensible silksong fans can get about shit
TRUE
?????
"We do not choose our mothers" hornet says in the first game
Then she starts being racist to flies in her journal entry in the next game
Did I miss something
What a wonderful character
double standard
'only pity' for vessels but wants to exterminate the flies and says she has no pity for children born into slavery 💀
No shit I also would💔
vile shit
tc definitely wanted to preserve the ambiguity of vessel purity and if tk actually fit the role, which is a bit of a shame considering, apart from pk's criteria being completely fucking indecipherable
, all roads eventually lead to, yeah, no, it most likely is not The Hollow Knight:thm:, and the reason i think thats unfortunate is it further obscures a few aspects of tk's character despite not making the question that unclear (again apart from whatever the hell pk was saying), namely one specific thing that
she killed a vessel with its own nail she didnt have much pity (other than for hollow)
They lock you up steal your shit like Yes I will be🥀
Everytime i open this chat and read messages it makes me dislike silksong more
wth am i supposed to do when lace jump in the air and TAKES ME W HER LIKE A LITERAL KIDNAPPER
murder

no mind to think go brrrrrrrr
she did it because she thought she had to but she didn't enjoy it and felt bad about it this is just explicit
Son
What is explicit
media literacy is dead clickbait youtube video, with a screenshot from #sk-discussion
If you call that explicit my whole life, all games I've played are Explicit
"Too weak, little ghost..."
"No shadow will haunt me..."
"Only pity for your cursed kind."
gee I wonder if hornet feels only pity for their cursed kind
it's ok to google words you don't know
Ah shit I mixed it up
like this shit is ultra obvious, even my dumb ass understood it on my first playthrough
I accept defeat in this 2 reply convo

I wanna share a bug however I dont have image perms
yay rain world is ready
Patrick Bateman is fictional but if you started defending him unironically I would probably raise an eyebrow 
Argument or Discussion? Call it
not a excuse or even lore related I’m just saying random shit rn
fiction famously never expresses ideas
She Grows up to be a more mature and understanding Bug you know?
Other than just mindlessly attacking any moving organism that Crosses the borders like it will do shit
Hornet isn't saying she wants to eat them lmao
and it’s fun (at least for me)
Then why is spiders eating flies relevant
Lets just admit its a joke TC maybe took too far and didn't think about that much
Relevancy is the key word today
No it doesn't?
no you see it's actually super cool that hornet is a terrible disgusting piece of shit!
I want this question crocheted on a pillow
There's no evidence that weavers let alone Hornet ever ate their kind and pretending like eating someone is the same as literally hating them innately is weird
Hornet doesn't eat them yeah
something that looks it must be pretty significant never really gets fleshed out, in that thk is alluded to be of great importance to tk personally, yet since tks intentions are always portrayed nebulously, due to being a vessel, and to preserve the mystery, the idea is never totally committed to, so its never apparent how much might be a personal connection or simply as a consequence of tk's quest. thk is often centered in pivotal moments of the knight's story (again, makes sense purely from the fact that thk is so directly tied to the infection, so if theres more to it, its obscured), but since the resolution all takes place in the thk fight and ending of the game (meaning that, you know, they never talk?
), we dont get to gleam very much apart from their shared opposition to rad and The Whole Situation, but thats a lot more obvious anyway, so it feels like a missed opportunity (though it might be something that tc never quite intended, of course)
this is why vessels are better 
.
Bro got amnesia mid convo
Ok kids, let’s be cordial. Or I’ll turn this car around and there will be no Disney world
should i play Survivor, Hunter or Monk
Or well its ragebait you've admitted that but still
How come is it written inconsistently?
Does the game's that hard? Like I'm playing HK and yeah, it's hard cuz it's my first time, but when i replayed it on another savefile it was sooooo easy.
Just to know if I could be able to play the game (just the any%)
damn even the citadel agrees
probably survivor
Survivor
okiedokie
Monk is an easy mode but it also has a separate story for some reason
didn't even give her garbs
What game is this about?
Rain World
Never heard of it
Also How is the Knight written Inconsistently
Its ragebait ignore it
*TC refuses to let Hornet kill the broodling
I think it's a survival game where you are a silly slugcat
Concept of Sympathy Vs Blindfiring
Minor glitch in silksong which allows for infinite ||pooshanka||. (I dont have image perms so I'll send as a google drive link)
||https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F0JHIWZc8s8NPKygnDKhV5xvOFeqfL-f/view?usp=drivesdk||
You've literally said that you criticize HK disingenuously to push back against criticism of Silksong idk what to tell you
If you called this a new player, yes. If you called this lore accurate, no.
Broodmother spawns little babies yet hornet kills them yet she doesn't kill broodling
C O N C E P T O F S Y M P A T H Y
-# I'm the wind, hello.
Plus probably an Alliance for not being killed*

lmaooo
But it will be one
It was kinda funny for like five days idk but if you're gonna defend the fly stuff its kinda gross
She would rather form an alliance than to Go aganist the flies, As she also will not return.
Source: nature and time
many such cases
Source: Trust Me
Well it will become a broodmother, and make babies
That's their nature
Probably will be allied to Hornet for being spared
that’s the best source out there 
if I had a nickel for every fandom that decided to get behind gross genocidal rhetoric because a character they liked said it I'd have uh a lot of nickels
holy backpedal
Holy shit my battery is one
Same backpedal everyone uses but wtv
hey starpengu
“WRONG LEVER” never gets old
wombat
This channel becomes better when people talk about nine sols
awesome cover art
or even mio even though i don't understand what they say
Have you listened to Esoteric at all
it becomes better when the topic is anything other than silksong
yeas but not enough



