sk-discussion

[light swan]

btw wrinkled towel uou said speeper was top 3 rifht

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[light swan]

is lade 2?

[orchid spruce]

yues

[delicate temple]

A lot does because input delay exists

[opaque sigil]

there is not nearly enough input delay to make stuff impossible

[light swan]

also peep this

[opaque sigil]

truth nuke

[light swan]

i’d prefer a hard mode over a buff but either way it’s not their priority rn

[orchid spruce]

bruh

just increase it by 20% or something

[light swan]

theyre doing something they can’t tell us at all

i have a bit of hope it’s something big but when i asked ax couldn’t tell me

[light swan]

hard mode will do that

[orchid spruce]

[fiery burrow]

abilityless ||promenade|| is making me lose my mind man

[light swan]

i guess they also saw the amount of people who struggled

[light swan]

how come?

[fiery burrow]

I didn't know they tracked death statistics ngl

[opaque sigil]

me neither

[light swan]

there’s only 1 spot that really wants dodge and it’s possible because of weird collision stuff

hard mode is the only answer

[fiery burrow]

Room after the basin

[opaque sigil]

something like a hall of gods with a version that has more health would be nice but yeah I agree that just buffing the fight significantly would be a pretty intense difficulty spike

[light swan]

oh yea that one is practically requiring dodge outside of collision tomfuckery

[fiery burrow]

what collision

[light swan]

i dont think it’s a difficulty spike considering it’s the final boss and it’s paired next to guys like sv

[opaque sigil]

a final boss can be a difficulty spike

[light swan]

making the fight longer exercises consistency, not necessarily mechanical difficulty

[opaque sigil]

that fight already is super threatening since a lot of attacks can do multiple points of damage which isn't exactly a common thing

[fiery burrow]

Real solution nerf mods

[light swan]

i dont think it’s an unreasonable* difficulty spike

[mighty path]

"all that singing... these chambers sure are.. choral dont ya think

[opaque sigil]

being able to do something consistently is harder than being able to do it

[light swan]

boss still dies too fast wirhout a lot of mods

[opaque sigil]

you also have to consider stuff like 'does the average player have all damage upgrades'

[fiery burrow]

I missed the ||Dwellings|| upgrade ngl

[light swan]

i consistently play the boss with 0 damage upgrades and even when i try to play badly i dont even see all the attacks

[opaque sigil]

if they have these stats then they have these stats and they should work from these mostly

[light swan]

i do kinda side with them but i don’t think small hp buff will be unreasonable

[opaque sigil]

I was down one upgrade and had like two pips of health

[fiery burrow]

kill the bulbasaurs ngl

[light swan]

all this means is that a casual player will actually need to learn the fight and understand it

[shadow dagger]

Hey, I was playing with the silk skill that spawns spears, and something interesting happened:
it aimed at one minion, all three hit and killed that creature and the boss (crow guy) after they hit moved to where the minion just died and took damage from it

[orchid spruce]

i don't think a 15-20% HP buff is unreasonable

[shadow dagger]

Maybe is something to do with the electric tool thing

[light swan]

mio spoilers

[opaque sigil]

a small hp buff would be fine

[orchid spruce]

can we nuke this motherfucker out of existence

[light swan]

i was always on the side of hard mode over ingame buffs

but after seeing so many people get their experiences ruined from the hp i couldn’t help but want a natural hp buff

[opaque sigil]

I think there may be some selection bias here

[light swan]

there’s a minimum of 3 friends who like the boss much less cuz of how fast it died

rhere was a friend who played mio before the boss got buffed

he didn’t know there was a phase 2

[orchid spruce]

NINE SOLS FINAL BOSS SPOILERS

[light swan]

obviously it’s better after the firsy buff but i feel he’d tjink even worse of the boss

[unkempt steeple]

So like did all the essencial workers in the cidadel get turned into cogwork robots

[light swan]

it sucks more because i firmly believe this boss is the funnest one i’ve ever fought but others just can’t realize it because of how fast it dies

[unkempt steeple]

Also who is taking care of these robots...

[light swan]

is it because i only talk with skilled players or whatever

because that’s not true outside of this server

[opaque sigil]

not only talk with but skewed in that direction

[shadow dagger]

<@&284848710960021504> maybe is something worth looking into

[light swan]

one of my friends spends ages on bosses and she still thinks speeper dies too fast

[round creek]

If I forget to kill a creature in a memory that’s optional to kill and lose access to the memory, will i never be able to get hunter reward thing for killing all creatures

[magic narwhal]

I don’t think it’s really worth it as a skip

Nails is basically the end of the game

At that point you can already have much more broken options that are on the required path

[stable pilot]

Did Silksong feel like a metroidvania to y'all

[normal bramble]

Palestag, but no anything you can completely miss out doesn’t count

[opaque sigil]

what does that even mean

[stable pilot]

Exactly what it says

I felt like Silksong was too linear for a MV

[opaque sigil]

it's a sidescroller with the typical combat and moment to moment gameplay of a metroidvania

[orchid spruce]

Probably means to say Silksong exploration is lackluster

[opaque sigil]

plenty of mvs are linear or have meh to bad map design and exploration

[orchid spruce]

which is just honestly true

[stable pilot]

I don't think it's either of those

[orchid spruce]

but it's still a metroidvania, pretty clearly so

[stable pilot]

Maybe it's the pacing

[harsh yarrow]

I have my issues with Silksong, but its map is fine

I quite enjoyed exploring Pharloom, and I still do

[fiery burrow]

Chicory is a metroidvania if you think about it

[magic narwhal]

Disagree

[fiery burrow]

Is Mio too open for a metroidvania

[opaque sigil]

is it

[magic narwhal]

Even in HK you have some more linear sections

[opaque sigil]

nah it's just rad

[fiery burrow]

You backtrack when you get new movement abilities think about it

[stable pilot]

I don't think HK is linear at all

[opaque sigil]

I haven't played chicory

[magic narwhal]

You still need certain items to go places

[fiery burrow]

Its a game entirely carried off of vibes

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/mio-memories-in-orbit-baddies-are-the-baddies-gone-gif-17625112058273636402

[stable pilot]

But you have more freedom

[magic narwhal]

There’s gonna be linear aspects in every Metroidvania because item unlocks

[opaque sigil]

blue prince is the ultimate roguelite puzzle metroidvania

[fiery burrow]

true

[magic narwhal]

Nah, you can still say fuck it to the bells and just bum rush Mists to get to Act 2

[orchid spruce]

blue prince is a metroidvania?

[stable pilot]

Definitely has linear aspects, but sk is TOO linear

[magic narwhal]

You can also just fully cut out a mandatory boss in Act 3

[stable pilot]

That's still pretty slow and it's only 2 choices

[orchid spruce]

Yues

[opaque sigil]

not really but sort of but not really

[fiery burrow]

SK has an OK map but Act 1 is kinda lame

[magic narwhal]

Slow because game bigger bro

[fiery burrow]

Man I just called it SK its time to pack it up

[orchid spruce]

Out of all the few metroidvanias I've played, Silksong is the second most linear, only beating Nine Sols The bar is in hell

[stable pilot]

Sk is dragged

[floral delta]

Peak Sols

[fiery burrow]

I should replay Ori

[opaque sigil]

nine sols also has a painfully mediocre map

[orchid spruce]

yues sir

[stable pilot]

I should have a good device to be able to play more MV titles

[orchid spruce]

I have a potato device and I've been able to play quite a few

[fiery burrow]

Almost two years wow

[graceful oyster]

Towel isn't red anymore

[rocky jolt]

you mean 5 years

[stable pilot]

You can play MiO

I can't

[orchid spruce]

I lower resolution and graphics quality

[stable pilot]

And probably with stable frames

[rocky jolt]

why are they doing the

[stable pilot]

That doesn't compare with not being able to enter the game

[orchid spruce]

I don't know about stable frames, I don't understand that concept If it runs, I can play it

[stable pilot]

Sly jumpscare

[orchid spruce]

Nine Sols can run on an orange

You could play it

[stable pilot]

The beginning immediately repelled me from the game

So fucking slow

[orchid spruce]

Missed out from peak fr

[stable pilot]

Too many cutscenes

[opaque sigil]

it's not mostly like that but there are a few more comically bad parts

[stable pilot]

Another problem I have with silksong

[floral delta]

Bonnie how big was the bass

Thank you internet

[stable pilot]

Silksong has way too many unskipable dialogues

[graceful oyster]

It's a story focused game

It has story in it

[floral delta]

Chap

[graceful oyster]

I loved that it actually took the time to develop the characters and situation

So many games dwell on stuff like that for too little time

It's pretty important for the overall drive of a game to help the player feel invested in the actions of the protag

[orchid spruce]

silksong will no longer be the worst after i finish afterimage

[opaque sigil]

don't tell illusion but uh yeah I could not in good conscience put it above ss

[orchid spruce]

poor guy

[humble surge]

aeternal everwatcher phase 2 done, only phase 3 left which will have 3 new attacks and he will teleport around (phase 1 would be no projectiles and sand attacks but same thing)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408110004174716981/1494129191711539322/Hollow_Knight_Silksong_2026-04-16_02-03-39_Trim.mp4?ex=69e17bbe&is=69e02a3e&hm=8eef672ddfde9992668b57462d377c6d0f0fc2c8746bf0b5870d0678d86ff9b5&

[graceful oyster]

People made a modded WatE???

Oh wait you're making it

[humble surge]

in the process of making it lol

[graceful oyster]

Good I was almost about to call the devs crazy phew

Glad I didn't

[main urchin]

enemies look ai generated

[orchid spruce]

that's brutal

[main urchin]

They’re not of course

[graceful oyster]

This looks normal to me because of 9S but now I realize parry isn't nearly as easy and this is actually difficult

[orchid spruce]

i still don't know what the crab with lemonade cocktail is supposed to be

😂

[rocky jolt]

https://x.com/AnotherJooby/status/2044557330553966882

Jooby (@AnotherJooby)

it's been 4 months since the trailer isn't that cool

can't wait for july 10th 2026

X · Apr 15, 2026, 11:23 PM

[humble surge]

as a 9s glazer myself i gotchu i made it a lot more forgiving and consistent

[main urchin]

But they remind me of how Enchanted Portals (yeah, remember that cuphead clone? That sucked) had one knight enemy where ai interpolation was used on its attack animation

Resulting in it looking super awkward and jarring

[mental snow]

I don't think we appreciate the 20 violinists in the background putting their heart and soul into the music

[meager jolt]

4 months? Really?

[rocky jolt]

2 days actuaçlçy

[mental snow]

Critical fail on spelling

[still osprey]

Sea of Sorrow is literally coming out tomorrow

[brittle rapids]

deltarune chapter five is also tomorrow

[lavish apex]

congrats on having a pfp now

[rocky jolt]

ççç freaky c jumpscare

[barren dew]

hi

[lavish apex]

so like how do you do damage

[orchid spruce]

😭

[neat python]

Nio and 9 souls are the same thing, and they both suck

Mio

[orchid spruce]

ok

[tidal hearth]

Cant wait to sea my sorrows

[humble surge]

there will be a parry quota for each phase, then once your reach the quota of the third phase hes perma staggered and you can behead him, how does that sound? i was thinking about parry=direct damage but it looks ugly compared to just parries

[lavish apex]

that could be cool

[wild holly]

finally beat trobbio, im shaking, i think this game is too hard for me 😭

[polar stag]

the only bad of of Silksong for me is Act 3 despite having some of the game's best bosses

[lavish apex]

i feel bad for illusion

[orchid spruce]

i'm still finding new areas in MIO, wow

[wild holly]

i can beat all of celeste chapter 9 faster than beating trobbio

[orchid spruce]

i love this game

[orchid spruce]

😭

[humble surge]

lock in gng

[wild holly]

fr

[polar stag]

I am really looking forward to exploring new stuff and fighting new bosses in SoS

[wooden ether]

the dlc is in 5 days correct?

[lavish apex]

it does not have a release date

all we know is they said the most recent update (which was a month ago now) is the last one before it drops

[wooden ether]

really!? I thought I saw the date somewhere

[tidal hearth]

Yep.

[lavish apex]

well that was fake

or just a silkpost

[still osprey]

No, it's coming out tomorrow

[wooden ether]

I got scammed damn

[brittle rapids]

the dlc is today

[polar stag]

since we don't even have a trailer or release window, my interpretation is that they're shifting their focus towards development of the dlc and stopping other updates

[sharp slate]

The dlc actually releases in 2 hours

[wooden ether]

bunch of funny guys in here huh

[sharp slate]

Indeed

[mystic chasm]

team cherry shadowdropped the dlc like a month ago yall just missed it

[brittle rapids]

yet no mushrooms

[graceful oyster]

What could you have not found

[wild holly]

i am still getting the adrenalin out of my veins after beating trobbio

[sharp slate]

But yea, no one will know the date the discord will do ping when it releases

[wild holly]

that was like about as hard as nkg

at least for me

[brittle rapids]

zoteboat today

[wild holly]

i might have underleveled gear honestly

[mystic chasm]

i beat trobbio and tormented trobbio like 1st or 2nd time 😭

[orchid spruce]

I didn't 100% the first save, there was still a lot. I just came across some ||planetary reports||, maybe i found them in my first playthrough but ignored them

[polar stag]

wait Trobbio or ||2nd Trobbio?||

[wooden ether]

trobio is as strong as a coughing baby

[wild holly]

trobbio

[polar stag]

if Trobbio 1 is as hard as NKG for you that's insane

[wild holly]

yeah

[sharp slate]

Trobbio is very easy to be under geared for tbh

[lavish apex]

i mean given that they just dropped the release date for the actual game 2 weeks before i don't think this means much

[polar stag]

maybe I fought trobbio later than most but I still feel like he's not that hard

[lavish apex]

and also like
again
we know it's built off of cut content
and we know they have other plans for this year

[polar stag]

TT is pretty hard but even he doesn't approach NKG for me

[rocky jolt]

release date is literally right here

[normal bramble]

I’m better at NKG then trobbio

[still osprey]

I've never really struggled much with Trobbio

[normal bramble]

I’ve done NKG on radiant (one of the three bosses I have) and still will die to trobbio

[brittle rapids]

me too

[polar stag]

I suck at NKG. I only ever beat NKG once

[lavish apex]

both trobbios are kinda pushovers

[fiery burrow]

Unless you're on beast

[polar stag]

NKG might be harder than PV for me

[still osprey]

Trobbio actually caused me a good number of deaths when I was playing with Barbed Bracelet

[wild holly]

my loadout was ||sting shard, magnetite dice, warding bell, silk spear, 5 masks and level one needle||

[magic narwhal]

Nah

It’s just bigger

[quartz roost]

You could've been quite a bit more prepared

[polar stag]

PV is manageable once you learn the fight but NKG is just non-stop insanity trying to keep up with the pace of the fight

[lavish apex]

nkg is far easier than pv

[wild holly]

yeah, i realize now, i just dont want to have to go through every unexplored corner right now

[lavish apex]

well not far
but like
considerably

[polar stag]

I had a much easier time learning PV than NKG

[quartz roost]

Also, no need to spoiler mark here, since we are in a channel that doesn't care if you spoil

[lavish apex]

you should like revisit the fight

[wild holly]

i still may as well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[polar stag]

even now NKG kicks my ass

[lavish apex]

because pv is a lot less generous on the telegraphs

[quartz roost]

You should be always doing that in this game, or for that matter this type of game

[still osprey]

Pure Vessel nearly killed me yesterday I am never recovering

[wild holly]

yeah i know

[still osprey]

I kept trying to use Cross Stitch

in HK

[wild holly]

but i did it in the end

[orchid spruce]

both are easy one took me 20 minutes, the other took me 21 minutes

[graceful oyster]

I haven't played silksong yet if you could try to avoid spoilers pls and thanks

[orchid spruce]

pretty much the same

[quartz roost]

Then it'd be a good idea to not be in this channel.

[polar stag]

I feel like PV's attacks are pretty readable and easy to react to

[lavish apex]

they both took me hours initially

[polar stag]

compared to NKG

[graceful oyster]

Nah it's fine if I see any I'll just try and forget

[lavish apex]

nkg's attacks are also readable and easy to react to once you know them

[quartz roost]

Probably not going to work well

[graceful oyster]

I'm excited to boot up the game later honestly I've been waiting so long

[fiery burrow]

Get out of here filthy newgen

[graceful oyster]

Yo?

Volatile here or smth

[lavish apex]

nkg definitely took me a lot longer the first time but i was considerably worse at the game than when i got around to pv

i just didn't bother finishing godhome for years

[graceful oyster]

Silk spear? Sounds super cool

Is it like, something you can throw?

[lavish apex]

there is nohing nkg does that's super hard to react to and the space between each of his attacks is a lot longer than pv's

i've done both fights on radiant, like, many times

[polar stag]

the thing that NKG always kills me with is that diagonal downdash from the air followed by the horizontal grounddash that leaves a trail of fire. It always throws me off because I don't know what direction he's gonna go or how to respond to it

[lavish apex]

you just wait

he always does it towards you

and then you just pogo or ddark to punish

the key is just not doing anything between attacks

[polar stag]

even then sometimes I end up getting contact damage from his head because he's so tall

I promise I'm good at video games

or at least competent

most of the time

NKG is just a point of struggle for me

[lavish apex]

no?

not really

[polar stag]

I've heard she can't be pogoed in the air from people and yet I always do pogo her in the air

don't take damage either

and I'm talking about LL too

[graceful oyster]

Who is LL

[polar stag]

||Lost Lace||

[orchid spruce]

never had that issue as well

[lavish apex]

grynne why are you doing this bit

[solar tartan]

I finally beat last judge and I now realize its actually really easy and the 2 times I rage quit from it was actually just me being a big baby

[graceful oyster]

Words cannot describe how much I don't want to be doing study rn

[orchid spruce]

he saw someone spoiler tagging silksong in silksong channel and decided to make a bit out of it

[lavish apex]

alright real

[graceful oyster]

I am so bored

[orchid spruce]

that's my guess

[orchid spruce]

[graceful oyster]

And this was the catalyst

[orchid spruce]

[polar stag]

It's just common courtesy for me to spoiler-tag if Ik someone in here is still playing through the game. If they accidentally get spoiled because I'm unaware whatever, but I'm not gonna intentionally spoil things for people

[leaden delta]

new suggestion for ukmd

gtanks now get lash

gtanks will now fup themselves whenever in danger

[graceful oyster]

The sequel to House md
United Kingdom md

[quartz roost]

There is someone here that hasn't played yet so good idea! Good job!

[graceful oyster]

Who

Me?

[quartz roost]

You said you hadn't played yet

[graceful oyster]

I did yeah

Who is Lost Lace

I assume a boss

[polar stag]

I think Grynne is just clowning

[graceful oyster]

That's a bit unreasonable

Whoops

[still osprey]

Goodbye horse

[graceful oyster]

Wrong one

[still osprey]

🐴

[graceful oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146538723673129042/1337268778899341362/ssstwitter.com_1738819943971_1.gif

[quartz roost]

I'm not sure, he might not be

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-exercise-for-back-and-knee-pain-gif-5071168589777184385

[polar stag]

someone further up said he was doing a bit. I assume pretending to be oblivious is the bit

[graceful oyster]

What gives other people the say over whether or not I'm doing a bit

[polar stag]

I am Fleamaster Mooshka so I think that gives me some authority

[quartz roost]

Ahhh, I see

[graceful oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195625042311118848/1437332486320422982/Moron.gif

[twin summit]

Steel ball run

[rocky jolt]

i would want to humidify my room with soda

[graceful oyster]

Elite ball knowledge

[quartz roost]

I gave it up, but I used to be Troop Master Grub. I should have some authority too

[hot narwhal]

you ain't nothin but a hound doguh

[quartz roost]

Shhhhh

[hot narwhal]

cryin all the time

[candid kayak]

for (inflicting) back and knee pain

[polar stag]

there's so many names in here I don't recognize.

[quartz roost]

I know lol

[quartz roost]

Who all for you?

[idle sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc5-nero-devil-trigger-stop-sibling-rivaly-gif-17020852

[polar stag]

different group of people than when I used to come here regularly

[idle sparrow]

I am here

[polar stag]

you and Grynne for one. Idk if I recognize a single person here rn tbh

[graceful oyster]

You don't recognize me? Bro must live under a rock

[quartz roost]

I think I recognize you? I'm not sure. I'm know a lot fo people in this server, barely anyone here I don't know

[quartz roost]

If he's a flea he lives in a cave

[polar stag]

when did you start regularly chatting in here? I think the last time I visited this place on a regular basis was probably last year. I've been in and out since then occasionally but I used to be on here like every day

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/dTHpTlh98Ku.gif

[graceful oyster]

When Silksong released

[fiery burrow]

#ss-discussion...

[graceful oyster]

Constantly since then

[polar stag]

hm

[fiery burrow]

You were the cyclops guy right

[polar stag]

you I recognize

[graceful oyster]

Cyclops guy

Uh

[fiery burrow]

No I mean fleafather

[delicate temple]

Flea juggle is annoying

[fiery burrow]

Flea juggle was my fav once I got it down

[graceful oyster]

I figured I'm just trying to remember a cyclops guy

[polar stag]

oh yeah I think Ik wym. My avatar used to be Allen the Alien from Invincible. He has 1 eye

[whole mortar]

Le silque

[graceful oyster]

Blue will you be playing Mio: Memories in Orbit ever

[fiery burrow]

yeah that's the one

[lavish apex]

please

[whole mortar]

Still havent gotten around to nine sols lol

[delicate temple]

What is the strat

[graceful oyster]

Oh lmao

[orchid spruce]

[delicate temple]

Because this shit pisses me off

[fiery burrow]

Don't jump

[graceful oyster]

Well, two peaks lie ahead I suppose

[polar stag]

I recognize BlueSR too

[fiery burrow]

If you jump the timing won't be as consistent

[graceful oyster]

I should hope so

[lavish apex]

bluesr is the youtube speedrun man

[polar stag]

ik he's a speedrunner but I don't watch speedrunners usually

[lavish apex]

with great jokes

[fiery burrow]

you mean the fungal wastes vocal cover guy

[rocky jolt]

blu

[lavish apex]

and the greenpath vocal cover guy

[fiery burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVAU1hX4wk

[orchid spruce]

great thing to remembered for

[fiery burrow]

OST is growing on me ngl

[graceful oyster]

Of all the ones for you to send, Core is not one I expected

But I understand it

Core is one that really starts to resonate with you

[fiery burrow]

Kinda one you need to play the game for ig

[orchid spruce]

What's the name of the OST played in the ||Eye|| room (MIO)

[fiery burrow]

Oh yeah that one is fantastic

Idk though

[graceful oyster]

||Asma's Ballad||

[orchid spruce]

Okie dokie thanks brokie

[graceful oyster]

It's the most played one rn

[orchid spruce]

Reasonably so

[fiery burrow]

Shame its so short 😔

[graceful oyster]

Indeed

That and ||Belltower|| and ||Observatory|| are excruciatingly short

[fiery burrow]

||Observatory|| is so good

They need to add a real reason to go there though

[graceful oyster]

RIP Goliath

[delicate temple]

Flea bounce was so easy

[orchid spruce]

The fact that MIO is only 85% rated pains me

But it's understandable because it's quite experimental in some parts and honestly bit sloppy here and there, but jeez

[delicate temple]

Also thanks @fiery burrow for the tip

[light swan]

i missed a bluesr appearance

[delicate temple]

It worked out on my favor

[orchid spruce]

I can see those "sloppiness" being completely ignored/brushed aside had it been in Silksong or other popular titles

[graceful oyster]

Top 10 reasons the heart's tremors are fair are you're stupid

[lilac karma]

Guys i got bad news

[orchid spruce]

I adore the map design so much, it's brilliant

[fiery burrow]

There were a few instances where tremors pissed me off

[lilac karma]

Team cherrys dog ate the update

[orchid spruce]

I was pissed off by tremors too, lmao

[fiery burrow]

They're pretty interesting on repeat playthroughs though so eh whatever its got wabi sabi

[light swan]

i was never angry at them they were always super cool

i much prefer them than making everything deal double damage

whats the point in gaining 2 shields and losing 1 if you can gain 2 masks and lose both of them in 1 hit

[graceful oyster]

Number 1: "I worked hard for the health, wah wah wa wa" you're probably missing the part where it hurts everything else too and that the game gives you masks like free candy in order to keep up if you explore enough. But in case that's not enough for you, here are the top 10 ways to dodge the tremor triggers without growing up and taking them as they come

[orchid spruce]

I was less pissed off when I read up about it

[fiery burrow]

It was the ||Vaults tremor that annoyed me because it felt like the game was punishing me just for trying to get the shopkeeper back ||

[orchid spruce]

But the game didn't communicate it to me

[fiery burrow]

Should protective coat pickups have unique visuals

I feel like they're more satisfying to get in HK/SS

[light swan]

i still don’t think it’s perfect but it helps much more than it hurts

[graceful oyster]

I could keep going but nah

The reference has been made already

[light swan]

no because since it’s less satisfying and apparent it will be in the players mind less and therefore they will mind less when they lose one

[light swan]

the main reason it’s not perfect is because id prefer to give the player more survivability at the cost of having the boss take longer

[fiery burrow]

OK but you still overall gain health

Like HK and like idk Zelda def feel better in this one really niche regard

[orchid spruce]

it's time to bully ||Nabuu||

[opaque sigil]

I didn't

[fiery burrow]

||On my most recent playthrough I finished the game on like 2 protective coats||

[opaque sigil]

when I first reached ||shii|| I had two coatings

[harsh yarrow]

Tammo, Starpengu

A new dev joined Silksoul and has been doing crazy work 3;

[fiery burrow]

What am I looking at

[harsh yarrow]

we're taking artistic liberties with the 2021 map, but it'll be mostly there

a cut room above Bonebottom

[fiery burrow]

Oh nice

[opaque sigil]

cool

[fiery burrow]

Why the frown then

[harsh yarrow]

lol

[trim estuary]

👀

[harsh yarrow]

we

fuck
we're also using aspects of the 2017 map concept, and the 2019 demo

[orchid spruce]

i first tried ||nabuu|| (MIO)

[fiery burrow]

What do I write in my Mio review

[orchid spruce]

"literal peak"

[graceful oyster]

For some reason when I went back to hitless nabs with no upgrades or mods it took me forever

Like 30 tries

[fiery burrow]

I'm also going to be giving every other metroidvania a negative review to give it a fighting chance fr fr

[graceful oyster]

Oh also no dodge and no sitting behind him

[graceful oyster]

Just be honest and write an extensive tangent flaming people who give a neg review

[harsh yarrow]

like, Silksoul itself has no plans for the Abyss

so the diving bell would be made pointless

[severe cosmos]

Mio is ahh

[harsh yarrow]

UNLESS
...we use it to acess deep deep docks

[severe cosmos]

who likes mio

its ass

[lavish apex]

a lot of people that have played it

[severe cosmos]

it is garbage

literally overrated slop

[harsh yarrow]

bait used to be beloved

[vivid belfry]

mio is not overrated slop

mio is overrated gem

[graceful oyster]

Don't engage with the bait

[supple reef]

Tf is mio

[graceful oyster]

Very good mvania

[orchid spruce]

it's 85% rated on steam

[graceful oyster]

Space and robots

[orchid spruce]

that's not overrated

[graceful oyster]

Very exploration focused

[orchid spruce]

[vivid belfry]

okay I don't even like mio that much but this actually pisses me off lmao

[supple reef]

Just use this gif if you are being baited

[orchid spruce]

ugh

[supple reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/961002027528380506/1420688346258083970/jpbm2a.gif

[orchid spruce]

hope one day humanity wakes up and MIO becomes Overwhelmingly Positive

[polar stag]

I haven't played Mio but the art style looks pretty

[orchid spruce]

It is incredible

[supple reef]

Its the man the myth the legend himself

[vivid belfry]

85% is criminal for a game with what I would consider to have mass appeal

[supple reef]

Wonder where bile water enjoyers went

[polar stag]

The man, the myth, the mooshka?

[supple reef]

My bad og

[orchid spruce]

I think ||tremors|| pissed people off a lot

[light swan]

here

[orchid spruce]

It's so unfortunate

[graceful oyster]

top 10 reasons the h-

[vivid belfry]

I think saeko is underrated at 87% and it is a fucking torment nexus that is actively antagonistic to its audience

[lavish apex]

the health system and tremors just rub a lot of people the wrong way

[vivid belfry]

okay that makes sense

[lavish apex]

which like. there's a menu option that solves that

[trim estuary]

you could say it’s an Unfortunate Development

[lavish apex]

but people are babies

and think turning that on makes them fake bad gamers with no value in life

[vivid belfry]

I would have gotten pissed off about it as well if somebody didn't explain to me how the mechanic actually works

[supple reef]

https://tenor.com/view/panko-cat-pankocat-fatfatpankocat-pet-gif-228857265189960783

[light swan]

this is what i stand by

[delicate temple]

Is weavelight worth it?

[supple reef]

Yes

[light swan]

i’d rather have bossfights last longer but the player can live longer

rather than have bossfights last shorter but so does the player

[delicate temple]

Does it even affect hitting enemies?

[light swan]

that’s my only gripe with the mechanic

[delicate temple]

I know it works with the needolin

[supple reef]

Its really useful during mount fay

[orchid spruce]

My garden

[delicate temple]

I’m on act 3

So I don’t need it then

[supple reef]

Its useful there as well

[lavish apex]

all weavelight does is function as an extra silk heart and slightly speed up their functionality

[tight viper]

Weavelight is peak

[delicate temple]

I still need the third one

[lavish apex]

it has one notable utility in that it lets you regen a silk skill once you have all 3 hearts

[still osprey]

it does that in general

[lavish apex]

otherwise it's pretty useless

[still osprey]

oh wait no I misread

I'm fucking stupid ignore me 🎉

[vivid belfry]

it makes the first regenerated notch incredibly fast which is great for platforming

but yeah it's not really made with combat in mind, it's mostly for exploration

[normal bramble]

Makes anything that requires a lot of Clawline a lottttt easier

[tight viper]

And that’s peak

[still osprey]

Weavelight is peak

[supple reef]

Clawline will forever be my fav skill

Wtf

[vivid belfry]

but one less hit needed for binding is still pretty good- I'd consider it better than soul catcher in this regard, at least when you have all 3 silk hearts

[tidal hearth]

IM NOTICING YOU

[supple reef]

#getnoticed

[normal bramble]

Clawline is by far the #1 thing silksong has over HK for me

[still osprey]

Can't believe this

[normal bramble]

I Adore Clawline so much

[supple reef]

Real

[still osprey]

Clawline is the best thing Team Cherry has ever made

[normal bramble]

Now if only hornet could do ddarks it would be perfect

[lavish apex]

i could not agree less

[supple reef]

I broke my controller cause i used clawline so much

[lavish apex]

i think there are very few equippables in silksong that are better than soul catcher from a pure utility standpoint

[supple reef]

I need to start replaying the game i started one day and then didn't touch it

[vivid belfry]

well okay, there's nuance here

[normal bramble]

Soul catcher is the 2 cost extra soul one right?

[lavish apex]

yes

[opaque sigil]

It can also let you recover enough for a spell a bit faster

[vivid belfry]

soul catcher gets much better as you get soul vessels because of how it interacts with them compared to the main vessel

[light swan]

it grew boundless..

[lavish apex]

it's good like
immediately

[vivid belfry]

not really

[lavish apex]

soul catcher is my goat

[orchid spruce]

I never did

[graceful oyster]

from eye to heart

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[vivid belfry]

it lets you get to a full main vessel in 8 hits instead of 9

[light swan]

livelier than ever

[vivid belfry]

which is the same thing a silk heart does

[graceful oyster]

yet its blooms hide deeper darker roots

[vivid belfry]

weavelight is strictly worse in combat applications, but from a long-term survivability standpoint, it performs much better

[light swan]

a hunger… that cannot ever be satiated
-# (?)

[vivid belfry]

of course if you're going for long term survivability, multibinder is better anyway

[graceful oyster]

and then there's you... again...

[lavish apex]

i mean this is technically true but like every extra point you get from it snowballs

[vivid belfry]

what the hell does that mean

[opaque sigil]

? it doesn't ramp up

[orchid spruce]

only one more until i can fight purpleslop

[fiery burrow]

Soul catcher is like the first charm worth getting cuz its right on the intended path and its pretty good

[versed pollen]

First charm worth getting because it's like the 2nd charm you ever encounter

[rocky igloo]

nah fury of the fallen is the goat one mask warrior

[fiery burrow]

No one uses fury

[light swan]

The little sapling who wished to save the sun.

[fiery burrow]

I can think of a metroidvania with a better hitless meta can you guess what it is

[light swan]

mmmm

[rocky igloo]

I used it when I did nkg ascended overcharmed

[lavish apex]

very poor wording in that message on my part but basically i mean it still has an actual effect no matter what soul threshold you're at

[fiery burrow]

yea

[lavish apex]

it will always be beneficial when you're actively using soul

[fiery burrow]

Greenpath doesn't have many charms either tbh

[rocky igloo]

fury of the fallen is the goat of a lot of ascended bosses

[graceful oyster]

Uh uh uhm the best one is uh 9S I think

If we ignore steely

[fiery burrow]

So you grab soul catcher then you grab Shaman Stone then you grab twister then you use all of em once you get the notches and suddenly HK is piss easy

[graceful oyster]

Steely strats are stupid

[versed pollen]

Not true it's piss easy once you pick up SStone

And SStone is three notches, exactly how much you start with

[lavish apex]

where weavelight only does anything at all when you're within the threshold for it

[fiery burrow]

What were they thinking with nail upgrades fiddling with the health of certain bosses

[rocky igloo]

shape of unn + quick focus is the goat of first completions

[versed pollen]

Honestly it's fucking hilarious

[rocky igloo]

carries hk

[vivid belfry]

soul catcher is just really fucking unfortunate numbers wise, because it is exactly 1% too weak to give you a full vessel from 7 hits

[lavish apex]

although due to how silksong healing and damage is that's more likely than it is in hk ig

[light swan]

9s hitless meta hardly exists because you’re gonna play hitless anyway

[versed pollen]

Really the kicker is ddark giving you free iframes that shit is nonsense

[fiery burrow]

Crystal Peak is a midgame area and it gives you access to both Shade Soul and Descending Dark

[light swan]

and playstyles dont really change between regular gp and hitless does it

[lavish apex]

sharpdart:

[versed pollen]

You get dive and shade soul from Sanctum too

[orchid spruce]

you're dead wrong

[fiery burrow]

You can just rush Peak grab those two spells equip shaman and steamroll everything man

[versed pollen]

Literally the entire kit you need to steamroll the entire game and it's two early areas

[fiery burrow]

Silksong spells scaling with your needle is def better

[light swan]

seems like it

how do things change

[versed pollen]

I kind of wish the disparity between the needle and spell damage was bigger but it's in the right direction

[fiery burrow]

I can see that

[orchid spruce]

||steely jade makes you immortal as long as you're holding the talisman|| (Nine Sols spoilers)

[fiery burrow]

Equippable spells too 😔

[versed pollen]

I like equippable spells but being capped to just 1 on most crests is really sad LOL

[lavish apex]

this is fair

[light swan]

is that it? you can be immortal pretty easily by just spamming parry lol but even then 1 jade doesn’t sound lik too much

especially since it’s incorporated into regular meta

[lavish apex]

for as much as i don't like using silk skills in comparison i do think spells do a little bit too much damage with stone on lol

[fiery burrow]

everyone was on that copium of white slots just upgrading silkskills or something

[orchid spruce]

3 jades relevant for hitless, but you find it out

[light swan]

even stuff like self damaging attacks sounds like regular meta

[orchid spruce]

actually 4

[versed pollen]

I figure it's intended to force some sort of adaptation and analysis but experimentally it ends up kind of limiting

[fiery burrow]

At least spells aren't used for like progression after the first hour ig

[versed pollen]

It's basically just a tutorial for spear

Walking up to one of those spell walls and you don't have the right spell equipped would be fucking hilarious though

[main urchin]

What do we got?

…thorns of agony?

[light swan]

mio has 4-5 mods for hitless meta while also allowing you to fit way more other mods to further focus on that hitless meta

[vivid belfry]

it's so insane that abyss shriek has knockback mechanics that completely fuck you over for no reason and thread storm just works

[versed pollen]

Greenpath gets Great Slash is what

[graceful oyster]

Does this include swift descent because like swift descent spamming is hilarious

[fiery burrow]

I remember Lone Fungus had you use spells for progression but they were also equippable so you had to walk on over to the checkpoint if you found a check for them lmao

[versed pollen]

Well to be fair a lot of things in HK just fall apart and break under any scrutiny

[main urchin]

What do we got in Fungal Wastes?

…Strength. And Heart. And Mark of Pride.

[odd hull]

Helo

[light swan]

it feels kind of weird because i use these hitless meta jades in my regular gameplay

[fiery burrow]

that's what makes HK beautiful ❤️‍🩹

[vivid belfry]

mantis claw

[main urchin]

Imagine will of the wisps but instead of pausing you have to die and go to a spirit well to equip abilities

[graceful oyster]

Mio's bosses are built to hit you at most a few times before you die for good, and thus, are very easy to hitless

[lavish apex]

lol

[main urchin]

Like the floors in Deepnest

[orchid spruce]

job application

[light swan]

and yet the build variety changes so much more if you’re planning on going hitless

[fiery burrow]

Deepnest floors were legit the most dangerous thing on a sped up playthrough

I think it was like 1.5x

[versed pollen]

HK's wabi sabi is the balance of the entire game being utter nonsense

[light swan]

in nine sols i see that less maybe im just uneducated

it feels like hitless meta is just normal meta but a tad bit more advanced

[graceful oyster]

I don't care so much about variety and more about the meta being fun

[fiery burrow]

OK lowk if they fixed shaman stone idk it'd feel like part of the game would be gone for good

[main urchin]

example: is cyberstacking meta? Yes.
is cyberstacking fun? No.

[graceful oyster]

I think the internal damage qs and recip jades are super fun

[lavish apex]

silksong glazers when equipment doesn't make you do 1 more damage on a thursday while halley's comet is passing and make you take 3 more masks per hit

[fiery burrow]

DDark spam is just part of its identity you can't take that away

[versed pollen]

It definitely is now LOL

it's so ingrained into how I approach bosses in HK

[light swan]

so it’s less about hitless meta vs normal meta in individual and more about comparing the hitless combat systems between multiple games

[odd hull]

Yep, that's what I like.

[versed pollen]

I feel like if you just removed SStone it would just make SEater and SCatcher even better

[graceful oyster]

I thought that's what you were doing

[fiery burrow]

SEater needs some love

[vivid belfry]

soul eater is slept on but it's fucking insane from a numbers perspective

it straight up doubles your soul gain past 99

[versed pollen]

Alternatively, even worse, it just makes Str and QS utter dominant

No, because ddark is just that strong

[fiery burrow]

Idk I feel like spells are still the way even without sstone

[light swan]

i was comparing normal metas vs hitless metas in individual games and see which one is cooler

[graceful oyster]

Hitless vs normal in 9s isn't a very large distinction save for those few jades but those few are very direct

[main urchin]

Yes

[light swan]

if we’re comparing hitless across games we might as well just be comparing their combat systems

[versed pollen]

Not really because you don't have enough slots for either if you're running meta

[light swan]

like hk has a bad hitless meta since it’s just fury of the fallen

[graceful oyster]

In MIO the hitless distinction is basically infinite charm notches and one extra damage charm

[light swan]

or smth like that

[versed pollen]

SStone being removed means you have an extra 3 notches that people would probably put towards spell charms

[fiery burrow]

[main urchin]

And Flukenest sometimes

[fiery burrow]

Hold ||glide|| to win simulator

[light swan]

2 because hands greed could be considered

[graceful oyster]

That one always applies and isn't distinct

[fiery burrow]

MIO hardmode please 🙏

[light swan]

not if you’re going for max

[main urchin]

if you get hit BEFORE the boss then you can fight the boss with it

[fiery burrow]

If Mio has Silksoul and not Silksong it'd be funny asf

[graceful oyster]

I don't think def counts as missing health does it?

[main urchin]

then Flukenest is supreme

[versed pollen]

Depends if you're playing under a ruleset

[graceful oyster]

No this is for how something specific functions

Ingame

[light swan]

and i’d say doubling your mod slots for a hitless meta is pretty good

[versed pollen]

Is this MIO and not Fury of the Fallen

[light swan]

nah, but like

[graceful oyster]

But it's kinda... boring, eh?

As far as the distinction goes

[light swan]

i’ve used max hands greed for hitless for lots of bosses

[main urchin]

Duh

[graceful oyster]

Having a ton of charms is fun but the distinction between hitless and normal just being that you get to use more mods and you get a flat damage boost is pretty boring

[light swan]

mostly because def isn’t available so early

[light swan]

idk getting a lot more mods is super interesting

[main urchin]

White Defender more like Fluke Absorber

[fiery burrow]

Hand's Greed counts black health right

[light swan]

you can be much more liberal and stretch yourself much farther

[fiery burrow]

FOTF + Strength 😭

[light swan]

builds get so much more interesting whej you have mod slots

you get much more mod slots playing hitless

builds get so much more interesting when you play hitless

[graceful oyster]

Sure

I suppose simple doesn't mean boring

I just wish the bosses were hard enough to support the ideal hitless playstyle

Where's Promised Philosopher

[strong pebble]

is there an ending or two i could miss? I defeated the final guy in act 2 and got this cutscene where hornet turns black and is covered in webs

[normal bramble]

There’s an entire third act to the game

[fiery burrow]

There is one optional ending that has very little bearing on the story you can miss

Otherwise no

[normal bramble]

Also a ending for beating the game for beating the game while cursed wtvr wtvr

Gives you a title screen and an achievement so worth imo

[lavish apex]

i prefer having customization options that can be op over a bunch of shit i never want to even touch because it's lame honestly

that's not literally everything in silksong though at least

[quartz cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1408655719955300422/20250708_203958.gif

Hello homosexuals

[fiery burrow]

glitter groupchat wsg

[light swan]

this is true

[fiery burrow]

Silksong has the best balance I think

[quartz cave]

TRUE

[fiery burrow]

Volt filament is unfortunate though

[lavish apex]

i'd prefer silksong have something as stupid as quickslash or shaman stone over architect

[light swan]

i feel like it’s more towards bosses not being built around aggressive, good players

[quartz cave]

Homophobes are so fucking funny man

[fiery burrow]

Architect slander

[lavish apex]

architect is an atrocity of game design

[quartz cave]

Like what came into their head that day

[light swan]

which is something a hard mode will fix

[quartz cave]

Other than fear of gays

[strong pebble]

guys uh i have the weaverqueen ending. is there any other endings that I may accidentally miss and not be able to acecss unless opening another save file?

[barren dew]

hi

[lavish apex]

every toolspam karmelita speedkill removes 200 years of time until the sun explodes

[fiery burrow]

I mean speedkills are speedkills

I don't think its really representative of how it works in practice

[barren dew]

Isn't the point to kill as fast as possible

[desert horizon]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I think lost lace is easier than first sinner

[fiery burrow]

Just like how spells aren't bad cuz you can do this

[quartz cave]

Btw star i will be blocking you just thought id let you know

[strong pebble]

guys uh i have the weaverqueen ending. is there any other endings that I may accidentally miss and not be able to acecss unless opening another save file?

[vivid belfry]

I like architect and don't spam tools with it

[orchid spruce]

why does solar and violin phase 3 suck balls

[quartz cave]

Cannot be friends with someone that has a french pfp

[light swan]

cursed ending, which can happen when you get the cursed crest and locked out when you uncurse yourself

[vivid belfry]

I recognize its capacity for completely breaking the game but I just don't do that

[light swan]

it’s so fun skissue

[lavish apex]

killing markoth in 3 seconds is good actually he deserves it

[fiery burrow]

Harsh but fair

[barren dew]

Green

[strong pebble]

is that the only act 2 ending apart from weaverqueen

[fiery burrow]

ChatGPT generate me a gruff handsome old guy for my protagonist

[light swan]

technicalky yes

[desert horizon]

Isn't there also snared silk

[prisma star]

zote fr fr

[light swan]

there’s a 3rd act 2 ending that brings you into act 3, when that happens you can’t do any of the act 2 endings

but tou already did 1 of them, just told you the other act 2 ending (cursed ending)

[strong pebble]

what do you mean technically yes

[lavish apex]

this is fine

but playing it in the way that its slots and craft bind essentially direct you to it's dogshit

[barren dew]

I love zote

[quartz cave]

I just found out johnny storm isnt real i think ill throw up

[orchid spruce]

okay you know what fucking solar and violet go down to D tier

😠

[cerulean sable]

i think beast should add a Cortisol meter that increases your damage when you get hit

[mortal bluff]

Silksong was legit a struggle until I discovered the mighty ability of wall climbing and then healing at the top of the arena. This one trick actually might make the game too easy lol

[vivid belfry]

I guess this is true for memories but I think the shell shard cost would be a deterrent for most people to use it like that, or to do so sparingly

[lavish apex]

thinking the game with red tools in it gaps hk balance is actually so funny

[vivid belfry]

and I think the "skip boss button" with a material cost is a decently implemented accessibility option

[lavish apex]

what if you had a build that could annihilate every boss in 2 seconds without a single needle interaction and the penalty for using it was you have to farm money

[light swan]

i just explained

[ashen steeple]

French is awesome

[light swan]

is this also skissue :(

[ashen steeple]

Have you heard Une Vie a T’aimer

[light swan]

absolute shiinema

[lavish apex]

or also don't against most of act 3's critical path

[mortal bluff]

Think the red tool system is kinda odd. Not having it tied to a moment to moment resource like soul is kinda spammy lol

[ashen steeple]

Yeah i never used red tools on my 2nd playthrough except for the one quest

[lavish apex]

not even really an architect problem it's just worse because it's the thing that focuses on them

i hate red tools

[vivid belfry]

my personal experience with shell shards is that I get enough to enable me to use them as a sidearm without spamming them, so I think the numbers are fine

[lavish apex]

i wish shell shards were nuked and they got nerfed universally

[orchid spruce]

red tools, ew
slop quests, ew
act 3

[mortal bluff]

Agreed. If a cooldown was implemented in some way I think they could be better.

[opal pelican]

Hornret

[vivid belfry]

like I recognize the potential frustration with losing your entire inventory because you wanted to spam red tools on every boss attempt but that never happened to me

[plucky stag]

midair heals are so huge in this game

[cerulean sable]

same, i used them as a suplement against annoying enemies but for bosses they were a no no because i also felt at a certain degree, over using the tools would degrade my own skills which will make shit harder in the long run

[vivid belfry]

and I also never used red tools to completely trivialize a boss fight

[mortal bluff]

Perhaps the unique architect crest bind should work on all crest, but have the number of tools per use be like 3 at max

[lavish apex]

quickslash and strength were stupid so instead of making them less stupid let's put them on consumables that you have to pay for if you use them too much

[vivid belfry]

the fact that there is ANY incentive working against you doing this is what makes them more balanced than spells

[cerulean sable]

my exp was like 80% needle 20% tools

[lavish apex]

with spells you still have to interact

[cerulean sable]

a good tradeoff imho

[graceful oyster]

Skiiiiilll isssuuuuue

[light swan]

witch bind on top

[orchid spruce]

😠

[mortal bluff]

Actually really like how they implemented flintslate and flea brew, because using them properly still requires skill

Deserved nerf to strength and quickslash

[lavish apex]

spells did too much damage so let's make the equivalent to them less useful in almost every conceivable way including gutting their resource value

[vivid belfry]

I think skills feel better than spells ngl

[mortal bluff]

Tools are better than spells often

[lavish apex]

no i mean silk skills

[vivid belfry]

me too

[candid kayak]

we know

[vivid belfry]

silk skills feel really well balanced but still impactful

[candid kayak]

yeah

[lavish apex]

firelord did not actually

[mortal bluff]

Ehh, having an up down and sideways spell seemed more focused than, only sideways or random area of effect skills

[vivid belfry]

and if you want the complete bullshit version of spells that wreck everything, you can equip shaman crest

[candid kayak]

then don't include him in "we"

[lavish apex]

i don't think they feel impactful

[candid kayak]

I didn't say who "we" was

[lavish apex]

i wasn't including you two in that message

[candid kayak]

mm fair

[cerulean sable]

i prefer Silkskills too over the have 3 in Hollow Knight tbh

[vivid belfry]

the weakest feeling skill is pale nails and it's still got aura

[candid kayak]

pale nails FEELS weak ngl

[cerulean sable]

you just get pushed more into using your needle

[lavish apex]

i have barely used silk skills outside of my hitless attempts at lost lace and like hhg on the speedrun achievement file

[vivid belfry]

silk spear feels like firing a rifle

[candid kayak]

like something about it just doesn't feel strong
maybe it's the sound idk

[vivid belfry]

perhaps this is why they don't feel impactful to you

[lavish apex]

on my casual playthroughs i always felt like the game punished me for pressing that button instead of saving it for a heal

because
it does

[orchid spruce]

solar&violet is so overrated, this boss is worse than groal

[candid kayak]

yes, "BAM", big hit

[orchid spruce]

😠

[lavish apex]

outside of thread storm against add fights

[cerulean sable]

eh if anything i feel like ending the fight in there was better than waiting for a heal

Hornet has tons of movement to compensate for it that i dont mind skills vs the spells

and theyre kinda cheap to cast too

[vivid belfry]

phantom feels awesome to fight but she has never killed me

so I guess A tier?

[round creek]

It would be cool if you could (late game) ||get the power to get the everbloom in other ways and not using 3 beating hearts from past leaders||

[cerulean sable]

she neeeds a harder refight

[vivid belfry]

yeah

[lavish apex]

i'd give them the s

[zinc wharf]

Pretty darn fun. I quite enjoy it, mid-high A tier.

[orchid spruce]

mid

[finite swift]

Cogwork dancers is such a fun fight

NINE SOLS MENTIONED???????

[orchid spruce]

i'd give phantom D tier

[zinc wharf]

I think it’s too slow-paced, personally. Namely that first phase - it’s good for giving an intro to the fight, but it just feels like a waste of time after the first time you get past it.

[plush plover]

yippeee forebrothers S tier

[main urchin]

Phantom killed me one time and that wasn’t even phantom

[graceful oyster]

Are you also a forebros fan???! Why are all 9s enjoyers so peak

[main urchin]

That was the smog that funnels down on her intro animation

[finite swift]

FOREBROTHERS THE GOAT!

[plush plover]

peakness has a gravitational pull that only affects us

[tacit relic]

HUH?

[tacit relic]

TIS GOOFY.

[main urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-silk-song-alerted-you-have-alerted-the-boi-you-have-alerted-gif-9200071430803760512

[orchid spruce]

forebrothers is slop

[finite swift]

fore brothers mroe like foresk

[plush plover]

[orchid spruce]

F-- tier boss

[plush plover]

wtfffff

[finite swift]

EIGONG?

HOLY SHIT ITS EIGONG FROM NINE SOLS

[plush plover]

the hating energy never stops

[zinc wharf]

You hate the bros, you hate Phantom, which bosses do you like?

[lavish apex]

ok slop yes f tier no these games have way fucking worse to offer lol

[plush plover]

try my serum

[orchid spruce]

I'll just add more minuses for those slops

[orchid spruce]

In Silksong?

[tacit relic]

Hk discussion feels kinda self-enclosed.

[zinc wharf]

Yeah

[tacit relic]

So I came here.

[lavish apex]

they're like d tier probably

maybe c

[plush plover]

maybe this is a sign i should come back to silksong after months of not playing :stupid_yi:

[orchid spruce]

Karmelita - Lost Lace - Seth - Lace 2 - Raging Conchfly, my top 5

[plush plover]

raging conchfly fan

[finite swift]

raging conchfly was a good boss and i liked how it used its summon enemmy

I have a SK OC based off Eigong and he pulls bullshit

[orchid spruce]

of course, it's a top 5 silksong boss

[zinc wharf]

Why have the two biggest haters of Silksong bosses I’ve encountered both been Raging Conchfly fans? Not that I’m complaining, I fully agree it’s peak, but it’s an odd pattern I’ve noticed.

[finite swift]

team cherry can we get hte green prince kis

[main urchin]

Bro thinks he’s part of the team

[plush plover]

if towel is considered one of the biggest haters now i fear for the state of this channel

[orchid spruce]

Maybe because those players can sniff good bosses

[zinc wharf]

That I’ve seen

[main urchin]

raging conchfly’s a pretty good boss it’s just like the odd one out in that top 5

[orchid spruce]

and can smell bad ones

[finite swift]

im gonna cook Yi

[plush plover]

so true!

[orchid spruce]

i fully agree

uhm anyways

[finite swift]

I love Eigongs bossfight
I love eigongs outfit
I love Eigongs backstory
I love eigong

[plush plover]

so true!

[orchid spruce]

holy shit, the glaze is through the roof

[main urchin]

Hollow knight relies mostly on its characters having funny gibberish voicelines in order for players to be attached to them

[orchid spruce]

me too

[plush plover]

all nine sols players after 2025 cant understand story all they know is eigong prime, prong, inner gong, and lie

[finite swift]

i will repopulate verdania with the green prince

[orchid spruce]

???

[plush plover]

why do you always share such truth nukes

https://tenor.com/view/cats-gif-16819962687542329639

[finite swift]

Eigong eiggogng geigigogng gogeg

[light swan]

leigong?

[main urchin]

WHAT THE FU

[plush plover]

liegong

[orchid spruce]

tf is liegong

[finite swift]

if not green prince then cogwork dancers calnk clan k c

[light swan]

eggnog is too good

[finite swift]

EIGONGGGGGEIGGONGEIIGGGONNIEIEGGGONGGG

[orchid spruce]

egg egg egg egg egg

[plush plover]

🥚

[finite swift]

you just did

[plush plover]

probably a good thing

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/hololive-egg-dance-dancing-eggura-guregg-gif-25104065

[plush plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yi-nine-sols-plush-yi-plush-dance-gif-4343975569721421750

[quartz cave]

tomodachi chat is it starting to look like her?
-# shut up i know it needs work i said starting to look like

[still osprey]

Sometimes I hate Craw Skip

[plush plover]

????

[limber kettle]

BRO WHO IS THIS || LAST JUDGE || ! I parkour all over the way to the || gate || and this esteemed sir || sends me back to the bench || !! NOOOO.

[main urchin]

FNAF hur hur hur hur

[finite swift]

i am eigong

[short crest]

Omg I can't find any gud act 2 bosses 😭

[plush plover]

hi eigong

[orchid spruce]

hornegg

[plush plover]

gongnet

[orchid spruce]

this is so cursed

[finite swift]

the forebrothers
cogwork dancers

[plush plover]

lmfao

[quartz cave]

Wow yall are evil and mean yall ignored me

[finite swift]

eigong eigong eigong

[plush plover]

sorry

[short crest]

I already did Cogwork and Forebrothers

[tacit relic]

I just dreamnailed a boss without having the conversation because I got too excited about having the dreamnail.

[heady iron]

groal the great is right there

[vivid belfry]

Cogwork dancers, forebrothers, Lace 2, Raging conchfly, Lugoli, Trobbio, Grand Mother Silk

yeah I said Lugoli, get off my back

[short crest]

I don't have duble jump 🥹✌️

[orchid spruce]

only lace 2, dancers and silk are good

the rest are slops

[odd hull]

Every attempt I'm playing worse. How can this be

[plush plover]

lies

[finite swift]

cogwork dancers clank clank lc

[finite swift]

Promised Eigong

[orchid spruce]

???

[heady iron]

There should be a Maromi to Lugoli's Luigi

[plush plover]

so much lying in chat happening this makes me so sad 😔

[plush plover]

indeed

[short crest]

Beastfly 2 was so fun

[cobalt pilot]

I literally don’t care about nine sols so why do we care enough to SHIT on it

[orchid spruce]

hell yeah let's shit on nine sols

[finite swift]

nine sols mentioned

[orchid spruce]

enoguh glaze guys

[plush plover]

top 10 reasons

[cobalt pilot]

Oh okay let’s bring that back

[heady iron]

176 how many reviews

[short crest]

Jus lemme fight 1,2,3,4 Chorus prime state 😭

[finite swift]

TOP TEN REASONS WHY NINE SOLS
we fight nien sols
nine

[plush plover]

cant argue with that!

[orchid spruce]

so true, i saw its ads in billboards and gave it a try bc the ad looked desperate

[short crest]

I wanna fight Gigantic Hostile Fertid

[plush plover]

so true

[orchid spruce]

it was as bad as i expected

[plush plover]

i think i saw it in times square even

[orchid spruce]

it was even worse than constance

[plush plover]

it was extremely unfun and unfair

[graceful oyster]

Number 10: Eigong has way too much AURA

[plush plover]

and i have a list of 10 reasons as to why it ISNT fair

[short crest]

Any gud act 1 bosses?

[vivid belfry]

I looked at my Ciconia and cried

[main urchin]

Maromi has red muck

[short crest]

Any gud act 1 bosses or not 😭

[orchid spruce]

most act 1 bosses are decent

except the beasty adslop

[plush plover]

waiting for the day ciconia is no longer neglected 😔

[short crest]

Yknow what

[light swan]

when did chicken get so ugly

[vivid belfry]

Last Judge is the standout act 1 boss, but Widow and Phantom are also great

[orchid spruce]

you're just jealous with how juicy his ass is

[cobalt pilot]

That sounds like a cicada