#sk-discussion
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It's not intimidating... rather, it feels tame compared to pharloom.
it's their idea, not mine
It's the voided creatures that are more menacing.

.
It wasn't that intimidating to me.
another slop enemy that i damage tank and run past, how intimidating 
-# 

WHY
Would be impressive if it wasent AI
damn ai has gotten good
He deserves it
your ai slop bores me
Same I hate AI
i wonder how long itll take before ai art is genuinely indistinguishable from
actual art
It makes me sad how good it is
i can hardly tell atp but i dont rlly have much of an eye for art as is
at least in the technical sense
I think it's cool but... I don't see the use I think that engineers were just bored
guys , why does fighting skarrsinger feels so good
the lace skin mod used rune rage in the trialer and shit did NOTHING
shame they didn't change anything about rune rage
yo lace's lower body proportions are SO WACK
i might replay silksong when this mod comes cuz i t looks fun
as in the skin looks fun
i hope they replaced real lace with hornet
doing my job of reminding you of the dark ages of sk-discussion where we fought tooth and nail to obliterate lacenet shippers and this image they would always send
never forget the pain
Lmfao
isn't lace technically hornet's aunt
No
or half-aunt
dont know dont care i just want to hate
Well kinda yes but mostly no.
That was a great boss
hwich one.
GRIME boss, not Silksong
wrong channel, then
This is the correct channel 
Bilewater this, Putrified Ducts that, what do you guys think about the Abyss then?
Silk song is rarely actually discussed in sk discussions
those big giraffe fuckers make me want to not be there anymore
The most common topic is still Silksong
you guys aren't silking your song?
What about the leech one?
I see just as much Mio as I do silksong
they also suck
And a fair amount of nine sols
Good
everything in the abyss sucks
Splendid
its just manageable cos its quite a small area
Both lovely games
Both games I do still have to play at some point
best way to summarize it is that lace is gms's child in a literal sense, meanwhile herrah is gms's child in a religious sense, she didn't create herrah (and the other weavers) she just gave them higher thought
Yet people bitch more about Bilewater and Ducts
wawa
i still haven't even made it to act 3, i should get out of here before too many spoilers
probably
i suppose ur barely ever in the abyss so it doesnt matter all that much
Sherma dies after you enter A3 so be ready for that gutpunch
💀
hah! jokes on you, i can't even remember who that is
Gonna be spamming them clawlines

Bilewater gets cleansed of all filth
holy shit bro i entered act 3 and its already cinema
not a clue
And turns into purewater instead of bilewater
how about sinners road
Heavens road in act 3
Truly insane honestly
defenestrates self
Holy C....
major major spoilers for: MIO, Nine Sols, Blasphemous 2 and GRIME
forgor to spoiler it 
i didn't like third phase
lost lace above sasuke? in the same tier as pure vessel? damn
the fucks in the same tier as sasuke? damn
i liked lost lace
sorry
i always thought you hated lost lace so thats why im surprised
it's mid as a final boss but as a boss, it's pretty good
i only disliked her as a final boss
the fucks dont deserve to be the same tier as sasuke or projekt or seth
like i dislike blueslop as the final boss but
ah
so when is spooper going up to evil terno tier
speeper
:) 
it's not helping
blueslop
also i just checked, ITS PINKSLOP
wait no its still blue
it's purple

hi chat
i'm honestly unsure about my fudie glaze
does she deserve the lone S spot (except S+)
MIO SPOILERSSSSSSSSSS
id put her in nog tier personally
bro the final boss is so purple its crazy
i was being sarcastic one is BLUE
ITS FUCKING PURPLE
i just chcked with the lihgting of the final boss arena its so blue its crazy
litrally frucking brue
nvm too much work
lmao
no that just means nog is worse not lade is better 
i think i did say that i probably enjoyed lade more than nog, nog is just so damn well designed
practically perfect boss
the gap between egg and lade is like the gab between speeper and sasuke
egg is like not even jokingly pushed to the limit
if you make her any faster, she would be worse
the gap between egg and lade is like the gab ebtween karmelita and seth
(theyre both tied for my 2nd favorite silksong boss)
wtf are yall on about
well, i have 4 bosses tied for 2nd :D
everything that can be uc-ed can be uc-ed with very tight windows
lace's evil cousin lade
ladE
that would be impossible if she was 1% faster or so
actually perfect
ahem anyways, i guess it's ugh time to glaze karmelita or something 
is sos tomorrow?
I feel like this is all you
They're a pretty fun fight
of course it is
the fucks are my least favorite fight of all time
i dont expect anyone to agree with me
im still gonna say they suck tho :D
the theme is still a banger tho
lies
No
I'm thinking of sometime doing a no-jump no-bow no-sword no-horizontal-movement maybe no-hit Egg run
Inaction run
goddamn it man
he's lost his mind
so like just parrying and talismans or what
Would only be able to talis, uc, parry, dash, and swift descend
close to final stage of terminal eggrot
Yep
sure man, i'll support you through it all 🥹
But bear in mind I can't flip direction
No joystick input
||UC makes you face the correct direction but I believe you know this already||
the hell is a swift descend
The final step of eggrot is to become the world's third blindfolded egg victor
The jade that lets you downdash
It's good for ph3
didnt know that even existed
-# probably because I only have like a third of the jades
whats next lafe?
this is not witch crest glaze its karmelita glaze
sure, we believe you man 
Enjoy a sublime eternity amongst the evergreen foothills, New Kunlun: the second home of your dreams

Ima be honest i dont get witch crest
Silksong's best boss and she's like half as good as Egg
I don't want to have to get close to an enemy to heal
its high risk high reward
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no its the slashes
beast pogo is boring
The triple slash is pretty nice I think that one is my favorite
i mean its cool but gameplaywise its waiting simulator
karmelitas every move is best move
The triple slashes is like copy-pasted in every good hk/silksong boss
doesnt mean its not fun
It is but it fits well in her fight
It's nothing interesting
why does everything have to be completely unique and never before heard of to be fun
If we want interesting the beast pogo is the best, yes
Beast pogo makes the fight interesting
Otherwise, everyone and their mothers are gonna fly over her and it's gonna be SUPER boring
father of the flame is pretty unique it's better than karmelita
beast pogo is necessary to rounding out her moveset
no one said its an attack that should be removed
Karmelita's beast pogo is also why Pure Vessel is worse than Karmelita
its just that out of every attack, beast pogo is the least fun one

I view it differently
PV is peaktacular
The same reason why ||talisman|| is Egg's most important move
this is my problem with lost lace haters
and the fact that it cannot be ||UC-d||
why the fuck does it matter that shes not the newest boss in the world
for optimized play i agree, it's also the #1 enemy of speedkilling because if she does that a lot the run is basically over
whats the problem if its lace 2? its funner
its also the most fun one
since it requires air parry chains, into a couple parry chains into UC
I love that this move gets so much trickier the more familiar you get with the fight and its optimizations
but that doesn't mean it's bad, it's still peak
I view it as in without the beast pogo, it's a complete dogshit fight
Therefore, it's the best and most important move
if any karmelita attack got removed it would be worse
Is T-grab generally seen as Egg's best move?
Not as much as beast pogo
i wouldnt say without the beast pogo its dogshit
Because I'd say it's always been my favorite and after playing the fight for a while I'd say so
The no wind up backstep and jump
Just fly over her, she's a piece of cake
it would be worse tho
of course itd be worse
backstep i wouldnt say is an attack
jump is fine i like it
Yeah, I think so
Most fun, most important design-wise
Coolest
and also most impactful lore-wise
crimson ball is also really fun
but it combos out of T
therefore T gets all the credit
When I first saw the fight (before I thought about playing the game) I remember asking Illusion what the red rectangle attack was because I thought it was really cool
i will keep pretending egg is the worst fight in gaming history so that it wouldn't crash under my high expectations
man i love drinking tea
i mean, it is
its below speeper and we all know how bad that boss is
Pretending?
dies in 3 hits
eggman
like geuninely slop shit boss
YEAHHH
and egg is somehow worse

Can't forget the circlet and then thing 12th architect sells tho
strong winds today
yea the glaze is insane i don't want to ruin it for myself
Do we know why tobbio is such a unit
No you don't need to pretend
She's just awful
T>T>T>upslash>downslash>crimson ball could NEVER compare to punch>slam>dash>slide>laser>slide>laser
i know she is dogshit and probably worse than groal
Groal ain't bad
or smash slide laser into 6 consecutive slams into smash slide laser
has few moves but lots of combinations, the elegance of egg
Just like don't go near him often
few moves but you parry all of them
Wait for his dive you can hit him like 3 times
i dodged aka PARRIED everything blueslop threw at me as well
sometimes i FACETANKED it as well because it has the HP of a newborn baby
except its way harder and discouraged
Biggest nuisance is the swallow when you're already close enough to be gobbled
LadE's theme is way too good
turns out triple parries is harder in mio when theres a cooldown and startup to every parry
theres also sixtuple parries which are impossible and make you react in COOL ways
Who dat
Boss from YM
What dat
is there any news on "blueslop" hp buff
whats that
isnt YM some really fat ugly shit
YOUR MOM!!!!!
YOUR MOM!!!!
whats that
Double whammy phew
also parries are outright weaker depending on your build
wtf grynne doing ur mom joke
I beat him first try
so youre losing out

Bro what is harder for crust king khann. The gauntlet or the boss itself 😭
ain't no way we're still making your mom jokes in the big 26
Actually i technically died twice
Bro I can't believe YM still works in 26
even if you build around parries you still need to hit the boss twice between parries which adds to the complexity
consecutive parries are very satisfying in MIO yeah
But not to groal
silksong :3
You're just sad you got got
why is he lying gif
You know who else makes your mom jokes in 2025
its 2am for me it wouldnt work on me in the morning
why is he telling the truth gif
it was obvious but I wanted to know if it might mean sthn else
Because she's just really bad and I don't want people to get the wrong idea
shes goated
i still wanna know whos LadE
onion youre alone in this
Also the continuation of (insert one of the yds) dat
delusional
If you see bait, discern it to be bait, yet still indulge in the bait, you are nothing but baited

she's literally the perfected " final lesson " trope
first boss to be worse than zango???
thanks
dont be salty its bad manners
who?
theyre lying eigong is one of the best metroidvania bosses to ever ecist
I didnt get the chance to fight him sadly
It can't be
No limit to the glaaaazzzeee
well, the fucks are worse than eggnog

toooo much overrated...
but of course they are
oh yeah the fengs suck

second phase is just random bullshit go
👍
Can we spoiler names
no, it's not... and also spoiler the names
i kind of liked the ||fuxi|| 1v1 tho
Literally half the bossrs
😠
parryslop but at least its better
me when the boss gets worse as time goes on
I thought we didnt have to on this channel
Why?
||goumang kanghui fengs and xingtian|| at most
This is a regular discussion chanel
all bullshit
we have to go through an extra chore so people dont egt spoiled kr whstever
This is sk disc, if we talk about Nine Sols stuff we should tag Nine Sols stuff
we do it for different games to not ruin for another people
with the fucks at the bottom
Oh
Spoiler the boss name for the one guy who doesn't know NS's final boss
Exactly you get it
gourmet, crusty Khann, Vampire fangs, Xavier
i like your fayforn pfp
gummy, Who The Fuck, the fucks, and Who The fuck2
Bell Witch demo smh my head
I mean technically you should talk about it in #off-topic
real
I was also looking at the pfp it's pretty cool
||yingzhao yanlao jiequan lady e da gong cixing ji|| all goated
I like Mount Fay
candy, how to tutorial, grass, who touches grass
My one gripe is that it doesn't feel super connected to other areas
no shit
platforming should've been harder smh
Peak, , chicken, Lade, Eggnog, Who The fUck3, my goat who has a mid bossfight
If mount fay was in MIO, dropping down from the top would lead to a new room with a miniboss and a reward
eggnog
unfortunately, mount fay lives in silkslop
I want to post Nine Sols memes but this isn't the place
Who The fUck3 is the goat
wrinkled towel is a peak name
twinkled bowel
Miniboss mention is wild
genuinely easiest boss after first 2
Eh, a boss in mount fay wouldn't feel right
I love that one though too
i loved spirit bot
i need to find more fucks haters
it's like the biggest parry check in the game
I'd argue that FotF is the easiest boss after bell beast (if you are taking the normal route)
theyre genuinely so shit i cant get over it
(ALL NINE SOLS BOSS SPOILERS)
My tierlist
wait, what, you like ||midlao??|| (nine sols)
yeah i love him
remind me who was that its been a while
his fight is awesome i created a speedrun tech on it by accident once
Father of the flame
i see someone in S tier who shouldnt be in S tier
you're one of the two fans he has out there
Genuinely impressed if anyone died in FotF fight
||him kanghui cixing yinglong||
I WILL NOT
BOW TO A [yi]
oh i was talking about nine sols, a different game
in silksong yeah fotf is pretty damn easy
i also like ||shanhai 9000|| alot but most of the fandom likes him
Its hard with hunters crest due to the diagonal
Not true
I destroyed him
i'm 75% sure Y is that high because it sold you nine sols' combat 
He is that high because it's a really dang good first boss
Ass boss btw
maybe you guys deserved to be abandoned
PUT GOUMANG LOWER
KILL ALL GANK BOSSES
RAHHHHH limitless glaze
yin or yan
''i love pogoing!!!'' until they have to fight fotf
No 
Gourmet meal.isnt that bad bro
gougou fight isnt horrible
I really enjoyed that 5 phase meal
charged attack slaughters them both
Nah I prefer to do quick bites than using a shovel
I don't like how much spoiler is not spoilered here 
Nine Sols? More like Nine Ls
even when the shovel explodes 1/4 of the hole???
Hello white palace
Doesn’t change the fact that it is still incredibly bad. The game is all about the rhythm of parrying, but this fight just want to make you get it done as soon as possible, sure charged attack and arrow can destroy them but it not satisfying (for me at least)
Skarr dancer is pissing me off
Yeah bro it usually breaks my plate and that just slows down that phase significantly
Karmelita?
Fs
Are you the original star walker by any chance
KARMELITA GLAZE GANG, UNLEASH!!!
Khann better
karmelita is.the hardest boss let's be real
she's harder than LL cuz you can't wall xamp
she's the best silksong boss and the best of the entire franchaise to date
i mean instances where you arent parrying all the time like the gougou fight arent horrible it teaches you to use your other resources and move wisely
The Hornet vs the silksong who wins
Huh?
Well at least she doesn’t have two masks contact damage
Don't sprint away
meanwhile people could just be expecting fair hits like in yin and anticipating telegraphed strikes so they never master movement
i enjoyed Y
Simple fix, use.the grapple thingy
Karmalita is low-key a fraud. Imagine not being able to sing just because you got a little older. Embarrassing.
Y is a VERY good boss, but kind of middling in the boss list
do yall not know about the wanderer facetank strategy for karmelita or did they patch that
yin or yan bro😭😭😭
he’s leagues away from every other boss
Her whole kingdom was taken, she was beaten by her very own soldiers and put into hiding. Yeah she can't sing anymore.
second sentinel:
the Y glaze is crazy
when did they beat her
I understand your point here but my personal enjoyment triumph over
First sinner:
Sounds like skill issue
nah GMs pwned all of the great leaders
pretty sure everyone just bailed on her to go be racist and aura farm at campfires
Except for crusty Khann who actually held a fight
She made them racisf
She exiled the mottled ines
it’s special coming from me
yeah but they were still racist after they dipped on her
Getting beaten by an even bigger fraud is even more embarrassing
so they left her to go live as mindless racists
What are we talking about 😭
No?
They just killed everything not silked
hope to one day see you post a boss tierslop
so who hunted down mottled and somehow got through all of his extremely elaborate traps and found his extremely hidden hideout
And mottled scarrs are immune so yeah
they were lucid enough to specifically go for mottled
Fred
Oh that was hornet
what
jesus christ
do not the cat
Yeah she hunted gurr down
hornet did not kill motrled bro
GURR THE OUTCAST @vale whale
gurr read hornet like a book it's the other way around
i think you already know my nine sols tier list
I think they meant she killed Gurr. The other mottled scar…probabky fraudulent
True
rate the summoned saviour you coward
(Nine Sols final boss spoil)
But she hunted him down
I mean, across many games in general
A super predator isn't scared of a predator
Overall agree. Shakra and palestag should be way lower
“Eigong, are you top 10 boss in gaming history?”
i was talking about mottled merchant, the skarrs who killed him were lucid enough to survive his traps and find his extremely concealed hideout and specifically go for him
absolutely not
NINE SOLS ALL BOSSES SPOILERS
||S: eggnog, lade
A: general Y
B:
C:
D: everything else
F: the fucks||
Yeah cuz he wasn't threaded
People will NEVER tag boss names

haunteds are NOT smart enough to survive his elaborate ass traps
They target all non threaded threats

i don't see how the name would spoil anything, there's no title or anything iether
Absolutely yes.
Legit the Isshin of indie game imo
It just does
the skarrs who killed him were lucid enough to specifically hunt him down and find his extremely well hidden hideout
"Extremely well hidden"
brother it was behind a wall
and survive his extremely elaborate traps
i once got spoiled on totl in mio and was awaiting them for the rest of my playtheoufh
a disguised wall
That just too bad
the scarrs made traps too you know
being spoiled on blueslop ruined him for me 
they were haunted bro💀💀
please minimize spoilers when possible
No before they were
and it’s all your fault for being spoiled
you clicked on the spoiler
sorry
how long is mio
im saying the haunted skarrs retained some form of lucidity, enough to specifically hunt down a specific skarr and track him down
~20 hours
Ahab level of gaslighting
-# please get the reference please get the reference plea-
i mean i have 200 hours but on average 20
usually mindless beasts looking for something to kill arent smart enough to find a disguised hideout and get past traps in a narrow space
assigned hungry at birth
the skarrs still kept their racism even after being haunted
They literally were trained for ts
(nine sols spoilers) I thought ||eigong had three phases|| what the hell
Karmelita was a very racist
oh my god
The more the better
does he know
do you think the pilgrims retain their memories after being haunted??????
Sorr of
the skarrs ARE HAUNTED THEY DONT KEEP THEIR TRAINING
well clearly not cause ive been LIED to
guess you did the phase skip
Just they lose control
||you need to do true ending to see the third phase|| NINE SOLS FINAL BOSS spoiler
More like YOU DIDNT LOVE SHUANSHUAN ENOUGH
gng HES IN MY PFP
Dang you're just too good then
yeah they lose control to gms' will which is KILL THINGS NOT METHODICALLY HUNT DOWN A SPECIFIC SKARR HIDING IN AN EXTREMELY WELL HIDDEN HIDEOUT WITH ELABORATE TRAPS INSIDE
GMs wasn't lobotamizing them
of course.............
Anyway if you just beat her get out of here and enjoy the ending or whatever
yeah but they strong willed enough to be racist
yeah I just finished the credits
shuanshuan boss fight was my favourite
They didn't listen to protect karmelita cuz GMs specifically made them attack ehr
Oh okay
credits music lowkey fire as hell
IKR
It's aight, not my cup of tea
Karmelita is making me very angry how tf is she harder than GMS
pick an argument
I like the chill Yi though
it’s the only song i remember
i listen to that one and lady ethereal's theme all the time
My brother just another me 🙏🔥
" they just killed everything " " well actually they did infact kill the mottleds "
||shuanshuan clones||
ok I pick that your name should be just Several people because ts ain't tricking no one
stop spoilering everything 
illusion3
ekqhwnhfkbig23h
No idea who that is what game is she from? (Tag the names goofy)
alr so basically I was arguing for the fun of it and then switched my argument to get a reaction
can you make the spoiler any clearer please i didnt understand it the first time
how did you know it was a she
Lady
illusion4
Probably should just get out of here if you don’t want to see spoiler now
illusion3 leaks already?!?!?
WHAAAAA
guess I have to figure out how to get true ending now 😭
ropl my favorite boss
GTA 7 before GTA 6 ahh
Wha is being discussed?
This is awful internet etiquette btw
everything
Cool
pythagorean theorum
Ew
Yeah well too bad, deal with it or sth 🤷♂️
nvm i hate ropl
grrr
Math
yes but there are no rules saying he has to spoiler it
give me N i want N
Ettiquete
that’s why it’s etiquette
There are however rules this chat is specifically ONLY SK but no one cares
Ettiquete is general politeness, not rules
i need liquid
I mean if you are spoiling a game other then silksong you should typically spoiler it
which mods have participated in btw
how the hell did you send ts 😭
Silksong it’s like who cares but
@mio
the stickers menu?
For any other game you don’t typically go into the chat expecting to get spoiled on a completely random game
Tf is the stickers menu
are you playing dumb or what
The more people tell me to not spoiler thing, the more I want to spoiler cause I’m evil asf grrrr
Agreed, dodging Nine Sols spoilers in HERE
maybe
next youre gonna say you dont know about the gif menu fr
Same LMAO
What wdym the gif menu
Nine sols is next on my game list after I finish P4 and P5 (pantheon not persona.)
I thought I had to download gifs
Alright fine fine I will spoiler any nine sols related content from now on

persona 5
Thank you
Good luck with the Pantheons...really didn't enjoy them...
Ive had fun with them so far
PERSONA 5 MENTION AWOOOOOOOO
soulscapes vs soulfields which ones better
Albeit I have only done the 3 easy ones so
Maybe P5 and its run of like 30 easy bosses before the select few actually good ones will change that it
i’d argue soulfields
Most of the bosses in P5 are ez, but the ones that are hard are hard, and late in the run, too
Omg it Jane Juliet :D
mio or heng whos better (clear answer)
I have consumed 500ml of liquid H2O and am feeling the flow of youthful vitality returning to my body
I can beat NKG consistently (I practiced the hell out of him), not too worried about most bosses in p4 except pure vessel who I haven’t fought
500 ml nice
I should get some drink
Hey I just started act 3, I’m kinda confused on what I need to do, I thought it would be like act 2 where I explore new areas.
Do I just follow the main objectives?
And I will 100% be doing pure vessel after P4 until I can beat him in radiant and consistently
Yup
future fellow act 3 hater right here
Please practice Pure Vessel when you get the chance, it's a run ender (also I love the NKG fight so much I do him on Radiant for fun I love himmmmmm)
little fallacy boy moving the goalposts
You will be exploring new area, Dw
Future average person more like
Hydrate
Lmao I already don’t like the regular enemies double contact damage
Or diedrate
NKG is currently tied for my favorite fight across both games (with phantom being the other contender)
real
Oh get very used to that double contact damage
So until I get to new areas I just go main?
Really?? So cool!
🥹 omg, everyone is waking up
It’ll happen A lot
My fomo got me exploring the same map again lol
Act 3 has amazing bosses and coral towers and uh
one day, people will realize act 3 is cheeks
That’s really it

Just follow the main objective, new area will be revealed to you that way. Also remember to check on a certain someone
Act 3 wormways is a thing
Horrible ones...mostly bad ones ngl....
one day, people will appreciate the positives and not hate on things that don’t deserve hate
(nothing deserves hate)
Okay that is awesome
act 3 deserves hate lmfao
I got my eye out for sherma, and the green prince
constance
Some things defo deserve hate
even the fucks? 
one day people will stop being bitchy haters who like being quirky and think theyre special
…correct.
i dont actually hate them that much
???
me? 😞
?
Karmelita, Tormented trobbio, LL, Khann gauntlets is cool even if he himself is lame, Nyleth and Seth are cool, green prince is cool
alot of " hate " here is just criticism not to mention
they’re still F tier but i don’t have any immense sort of hatred
That’s why I been exploring the map randomly again hoping to run into them lmao
The only bad fights with no gauntlets to redeem them in act 3 are pale stag and Zango
Which…. Ok ya they SUCK
i dont try to put down other peoples opinions with stuff i determinently believe in
But it’s 2 bosses that aren’t required (one of them is completely skippable if you want)
I only fought the bell eater for now and it was… alright I guess
sk-discussion mfs when you criticise sk in the sk channel
Oh actually 3 bosses tha suck I hate bell eater
Tbh, I should just tell you because most people would miss it if you really play the game blind. In act 3, you can see a lot of the map changed. And some new paths are opened, do what you want with that information
but what do i do if i'm just actually quirky and special and genuinely believe act 3 is ass (for good reasons)
do i stop believing in my opinion to be less quirky and special
criticism is not finding any and all oppportunity to start shitting on smth
you mean finding things which are bad... to criticise????
Clearly you've never heard of green people
Yes. I hate mislabels cause I don’t replay
well hating is like going “oh youre playing this SHIT MID SLOP bossfight” as soon as you see any trace of lost lace
i dont think most people do that
I already went to the wormways and got another quest from the architect dude
which is why most people are fine
i didn't know you think about me that way, illusion
Woah laceslop* boss fight
i dont

im not targeting you
lace 1 and 2 good lace 3 bad
Karmelita is amazing, Khann is good, Nyleth is really cool, Seth is...fine, Bell Eater blech, Lost Garmond blech, Clover Dancers disappointing, Tormented Trobbio is funny but not good (sparkle explosions are hard to see until it's too late), Lost Lace is the 3rd Lace fight and too similar to things we've seen before (Lace moveset and Void attacks), and...did I miss one? Feel like I missed one.
im targeting the action
Coolio. Btw this chat isn’t spoiler proof so the longer you stay here, the more likely some spoiler would pop up
Think I’ll do these 2 sides quests before I proceed
I forgot about lost garmond existing
me when i see lace
I deadass forgot he was a boss
i think youre cool just like how i think most people are cool
Oh I also forgot pinstress
Wdym “Seth is…fine” I thought he was a really good boss
Fuck pinstress bottom 5 boss in the game
Guilty as charged
i think onion is cool even tho theyre some of the biggest haters i know
Lace 3 is midslop
lost garmond was too difficult because of the screen blur in my eyedand it was really irritating my eyes and they started watering
Amazing character I just hate her boss
Onion did spoilerbomb chat once and that was really really stupid
Pinstress
So nothing important
Seas 😡
no regrets noregrets no point in crying ove ryesterday no regrets no regrets cos we aint even seen the best of days
Of sorrow
Arena is too wide like Moorwing, his telegraphs are hard to predict attacks with, and GMS screams....oh, GMS screams........
UGH I hate her float
Seth telegraphs are really easy imo

Anyway the Boundless Infinity Pure Vessel mod looks garbage
My autosave to refight Nyleth makes me redo Seth
seth doesnt have bad telegraphs he’s just fast
why? youre parrying everytbing whats wrong with that
Top 10 examples on how not to make a bossfight
lmao
you shit on the fucks every time you're in the chat when they're brought up, like comon 
Boundlesss infinity pure vessel
Arena being “too wide” was never a problem for me unless you are the type of player that like to cling on wall. His telegraphs are fine, very clear even, his attacks don’t have much variants anyway.
Definitely a name
why is act 3 protected behind the golden gate
Autocorrect is against me today woah
Haney
i would rather fight the fengs 3000 times over then do act 3 100% five times
"too wide" my dustroach steak is too juicy and my lobster lancer too buttery
Anyway it sounds like I hate Act 3, I really don't, I think it's awesome, but it is flawed (too short, bad bosses outweigh good, and...I think that's it)
…The feng is a good boss tho.
I personally like act 3
I like seeing the boss I'm fighting without actually going "out of bounds", so to say
Aesthetically it’s really cool and has good moments
My ranking of Act 3 bosses would be
Amazing: Lost Lace and Karmalita
Really Good: Nyleth, Seth and Khann
Good: Tormented Trobbio, Craw Father, Watcher At The Edge and Clover Dancers
Decent: Gurr the Outcast, Pinstress
Bad: Lost Garmond, Bell Eater
Horrible: Zango and Pale Stag
it insists upon itself
I forgot about Gurr oops
@light swan did you hear about hollow champions bro💀💀 they removed like 60% of the hunter's journal and didnt add half of the new megas
The bad bosses suck but most of them are easy or have something you can do delete their existance (Zango)
where to go right after i get key of apostate
Or their pinstress or bell eater and just suck
Fengs from Nine Sols right
I think there's room for criticism/hate but if you see someone enjoying a boss and start hating yea that kinda sucks
Yeah (or at least I think that what they are talking about)
dude how different is the meta now
Unless its like uhh a convo about game design or something similar ig
Agreed
and yea that’s bullshit
Fengs is a really good boss
where to go right after i get key of apostate
NEVER EVER LET ILCA COOK A HOLLOWMON GAME AGAIN
WHERE TO GO RIGHT AFTER I GET KEY OF APOSTATE
hopefully it’s balanced againsr threats like fayforn or lost lace
first they ruined hollowmon diamond and pearl and them they made hollowmon champions
sea of tomorrow
The slab, there is hidden room
What did he mean by this
Gwyn
suzume !
Personally
Amazing : Karmalita and Tormented trobbio
Really good: Khann (gauntlets included) Seth Clover dancers Nyleth
Good : Crawfather and Gurr
Decent : watcher at the edge
Bad : Lost garmond and Pale stag
Why do you exist : Zango and Pinstress
What
And a special place of hatred in my heart for bell eater
watcher on the edge's ability got buffed so fayforn is out of meta gurr lost knock off so hes on fraud watch and wonder regen zango has a niche
BELL EATER WAS A DECENT BOSS IDC
WATE IS BACK IN THE GAME
Where would you rank Lost Lace
ugh, amazing karmelita, good lost lace & seth, decent nyleth, everything else may as well not exist
Oh, I forgot her
whats it’s ability again, sand storm but stronger?
Really good above khann
kinda like the harsh sunlight
fighting type stab originally
Pretty good tier list
i hate gurr with every fibre of my being
the most i remember about khann is he summons corals or something. that's probably all he does anyways
but then they made it fighting type stab + extra def in sandstorm
lace 2 is one of my favorite fights and lost lace is just lace 2 (dlc edition) so
Can’t dislike it really
That's what makes him cool and fun
lace 3 is better than lace 2 because it has chains and combos
he’s so damn fun
the void attacks make it worse than it could be
it can take hits from lost lace pin burst
Though I do wonder why does lost lace not summon the vortex’s lace 2 does on her the downwards part of her jumping attack
i forgor him
The more I fight lost lace
I agree solely because she stands so still during them
the better it gets
at nationals WEDGE TANKED A PIN BURST AND OHKOED LOST LACE WITH A CLOSE COMBAT
Me next, me next!
Love: Karmelita
Like: Khann, Nyleth
It okay ig: Seth, Watcher at the Edge, Crawfather, Tormented Trobbio, Lost Lace
Not great: Gurr, Lost Garmond, Clover Dancers
Rot in hell: Pinstress, Palestag, Zango

And the animations for lost lace doing all the void attacks are so long
bruh
sandstorm khann is back in meta also
the void things introduce visibility issues
Like she’s vulnerable during all the void attacks for ages longer then all her other attacks
they put a tournament for such a new format that early?
which i'm not a fan of
what can i say
this wate buff seems to be kinda crazy lol
I’m fine with the ones interwoven in her attacks
honestly im happy with khann being in the meta again
I just hate the ones she stands perfectly still for 20 hours during
extra defense when it already had like base 130 is ridiculous
he’s always been a mon i liked, just hard to fit
They aren’t hard to dodge they aren’t going to get you hit and just give you 20 hours to hit her
some people use scarf wedge to outspeed clovers
The void tendrils attack? Well, she usually only attack right after the void tendrils pulled down anyway. And most of the time, being airborne will save you from most attacks
true tbf his ability had potential he just didnt have alot of synergy
although the sandstorm team sounds specially weak
she should be more of a duel fight. when the void attacks spam starts, the fun lessens
most special threats get countered
feels like itd get ripped apart by fayforn
fayforn gets outsped by scarf wedge
YO let’s go
hard countered by rock type
unless youre investing into defense on fayforn which is really desperate she goes down in one crust claw
the void tendrils from her is fine, it's still a "duel"
fs gets hit for neutral
but when the entire arena spawns so much shit, it's genuinely messy
but she’s really weak def wise so that’s some good damage
My first genie wish will be to lock everyone in a room with adequate provisions until they complete 3 out of the choices: Outer Wilds, Nine Sols, Mio, Inscryption, and Rain World
and she doesnt have many reliable counter moves unless youre running dazzling gleam fayforn
Fuck ive only done 1 of those 5
the environment should be used in that fight but it should've been something else, like the void waves for instance
rhe last time i heard of dazzling gleam fayforn was beast hornet meta
Inscription
The projectiles, the spikes things, or the waves?
i cant believe gurr got kicked out in favour of fucking wedge
beast hornet meta was crazy
bell eater is in this weird " you have to let go " stage where people keep using him but hes getting weaker
waves is good, projectiles & spikes, tendrils from floors, void saws all such a mess
Atp just make a silksong pokemon rom hack
im fine with it, the outcast has to be dethroned at some point
what happened to karm perish trap abilities
Wait, saws?
now that fayforn is countered by wate
yeah... 
well theyre
around
My second genie wish is that I wish all mathematics professors lose full brain cognition for 3 months
however khann usually tanks out karmelita hits and gets the kill
not a top threat anymore? thank fucking god
I'm sorry, I don't recall that attack
With the way you are describing the fight, I’d have thought lost lace just cluttered up the entire screen like trobbio. But that is if I haven’t fought lost lace. Fighting lost lace always made me realize “huh, it ain’t that bad”
and the rest of the team is vulnerable to wedge sweep
And the third?
also no retreat khann is an option now too
And my third wish is that any future wishes where people decide to free the genie get cancelled entirely, granting them a new wish as compensation
Lost Lace was my all-time favourite boss fight back then
is there any counter to wate nowadays
he's weirdly bulky
This is my retrospective criticism
people like clovers
Who is it now?
And my criticism for Silksong is also retrospective because I loved it much more back then*
interesting
Nine Sols final boss
Ahhh okey thank you
Did you play 9S after Silksong???
honestly this meta doesn’t sound too horrible
Yeah
however scarf wedge with aerial ace does an insane amount of damage to clovers but scarf and aerial ace are primarily used to counter clovers
theyre kinda ass otherwisd
What is my favorite boss in gaming….hmm…it probabky came from a game called Sekiro but there are still so much to choose
even tho wate is at the top and scarf wate outspeeds clover
Right now Lost Lace is all time 3rd most favorite boss
Wow you know a lot for having only played recently
I'm one to talk, I started 9S a week and a half ago
sherma Wguard is still peak
did i tell you zango wonder healis in meta
whats wonder heal
I think I started Nine Sols around a year ago
What what what are we talking about
regenerator palestag still in? that’s so funny
you already know a lot
i didn't know the moves' names until like 2-3 months in
it used to heal him a bit every turn but now he gets max regenned after every hit he survives
There’s genuinely an entire silksong competitive scene being created here
😭
WJAT
and he has like 150 hp
HOW
he's abysmal at everythung else but he has lifeblood moves so he's the devil now
onion and i have been doing this since november
I genuinely thought they were talking about some niche game but then buzzwords start appearing 💔
im ngl this sounds bullshit
I would kill to see this as an actual romhack of the game
This conversation is fire, I had never read something so interesting
Like mariomon
run palestag then
Randomly explored and found needle upgrade guy in trouble
forsake your honour
Searching for a game that doesn’t exist
counter stall with stall
This sounds genuinely like the most interesting thing I’ve heard of in ages
Now I’ll never be able to proceed with main😭
he takes extra damsge from burns and toxic and poison
This should be the main topic of this channel
durhhhhh but this is ubers
how am i supposed to get the indolent key???
in vgc it doesnt go so well for zango
its in slab
its locked in a door behind an indolent key 😭
u need apostate key first i believe
Apostate key since you didn’t get throw into jail
wonder heal means he cant be affected by rage powder or follow me etc in any capacity
look for random holes in ceilings
i alrdy have an apostate key
so he gets ganked
use it to unlock the other doors
Oh then go find a ceiling that you can break
then u will find it?
Then just explore the whole area you will mostly find it
thank god
im surprised so much about this meta is known already
bell beast heavy slam also puts belt to ass on alot of threats
once my archi hornet got ohkoed by a bell beast because i shift geared
wirhout gurr are there any more intim users
kind of on you tbh
wait js wondering but how do u get captured by the flies
i still run witch hornet on all my teams for no good reason
but you can’t just sit in front of bell beast ajd tjink youre safe
bell beast beastfly beast hornet and some irrelevants
If you in Act 1 and have defeted Bell Beast then Warden Flies will spawn in certain locations
i got intolent key thingf
tbf i thought i could tank it
glad to see beast hornet up there
this was alot earlier on before we knew how op bell beast heavy slam could be
her and shaman are the best hornets rn
hunter out of the game?
Atp I’ve opened a notes page and started logging this

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