#sk-discussion
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Act 3 might be my favorite section in gaming
can we talk about my favorite boss
Act 3's enemy design is astounding
what the hell sure
Guys does getting all the achievements in the game grants you any in game item like a new tool or a crest?
sprintmaster swift is so rigged
i get ahead of him but he gets the finish line first because of the fucking landing animation
no
i do not get the complaints about visibility ngl
ok but you can attack him dont you think that’s unfair imagine if he attacked you
i don’t like this afterimage slander
Not even a new skin or something?
can we talk about why afterimage ost is low-key thr 2nd best metroidvania ost of all time
try do a nohit or sth, it becomes very apparent in later phases
im guessing the best is mio then
duh who do you think i am
john mio
mios music isnt really my thing ngl
i remember 1 ost from mio
"why are you green, red maiden"
"i 100%'d this kingdom sherma"
maybe will remember more in replay
i love syncopating my F minor triad using a 4/4 time signature
did you know the two final boss themes are reverses of eachother in a way? in the phase 2 main melody?
wait wut
same melody but the structure is the other way around and it’s so cool

also one of the final bosses used mio’s personal vocals since it’s personal to mio while the other uses…. a cats vocals
while both have a custom phase 1 theme resembling ||their respective pearls|| it’s beautiful
two sides of the same coin both in tandem and againsr eachother
also Where You Come To Die is unfairly good
Asmas Ballad is sad for no reason at all
maybe i'd be able to tell the difference had blueslop not die before the beat drops
why the slander what did i ever do to you
jk btw
i’ll just go cry with my favorite boss
im just music illiterate
we all know i had bad taste but i didn’t know it was that bad
like i know the final boss balances 2 main melodies and more layers and turns a previous main melody into a background baseline but it doesn’t matter because you never fucking reach it
lmao
who fucking cares that the boss has like 200 nodes on it’s 3d rig to perfect it’s animations and make it the best it can be
i dont even get to see any animations
well i hate you
what happened 
you cant simply not love music tying into the game with lore and shit
thats like amazing
and the fact it contrasts and compares the two final bosses so well
become music literate imo 
i like music when it sounds good and stuff
maybe it’s easy we just gotta wait for the patch
what does music illiterate mean
The Ultimate Weapon has electronic beatboxing it’s cool
im a huge sucker for somber kinda visuals but when theres like good music with it too that just elevates it even more
||ANRA theme?||
I honestly really liked ||ANRA|| theme
The Furnace Who Doesn’t Yield has no complexity on the surface
it’s pretty much a metronome
i mean im like a self proclaimed music fan i will enjoy my music
but with expert use of sound design it becomes so fucking bouncy and funky
i lowkey did not pay much attention to silksong music until i heard last dive ngl
like it all stems from sound design, the composer neglected everytbing else
same for the Doors bossfight
the composer neglected everytbing. else except for note velocity
Same but it was until like bilewatuh
and slapped on some drunk vocaloid in phase 2
and it’s some of the best shit i’ve heard
Prob the theme that caught my most attention
bilewaters music isnt even that good
its good for the area ig but id never listen to it alone
the theme purely driven by velocity and the other purely driven by sound design
i don't listen to any hk silksong music alone
sorry but it’s the best silksong theme by far
i listen to it ti go to sleep at times
few songs hold that title
exactly why hk has better music
But i like bileater
bilewater*
it’s the 2nd best theme throughout both games by far
high halls is really good
this is just so cool to me im sorry

the fact he let’s go of everytbing except for one fundamental and makes it sound so good is CRAZY
like the skill it takes to do that is fucking crazy
lets*
also
not the crucible placeholder art 😭
there’s one theme thats relatively simple but there’s a tempo change in the middle of it
and it’s so damn addicting
Im prob the only person who struggled with sister splinter but beat last judge first try

also scarlet and violet are the most singable songs ever
pokemon
h my god mio music is good
i still can’t get over how the final boss theme structures are reverses of eachother
i still don’t know how the realization adds depths to mio’s theming or message or character or smth
but it’s cool nonetheless
the parallels between the themes are so cool
will never beat ror2 imo
ror2 music has never stood out to me
i mean it’s good but the game isn’t exactly about creating immersive experiences
the same way rpgs or worldfocused games are
yeah i just think it sounds good ngl
definitely not like meaningful music but its good
karmelita post before gn
grand mother silk is just a grandma
They shoild make Pharloom Online
when is sea of sorrow actually tomorrow
Hello
every day
Tomorrow
Tomorrow
a
The moment you realise the scarecraw made in crawbug clearing looks exactly like the crawfather
Karmslop
Let's gooo <1min Karmelita nohit!!
Although I am a dumbass and missed one sharpdart near the end
Tormented Trobbio crashed my game after i died
Karmmslop
Damn it would've been 40s if I didn't miss that sharpdart
what do i do after defeating lace
in act 1, 2 or 3
Bro i need your help silksingers
wdym
about lace
So i just got cling grip and long pin in shellwood
it was in a lava area
What do I do now
act 1
go to the next room where u defeated lace
There is a help channel
Noted
Sea of Sorrows final boss should be a Conductor Class Battleship named G.M.S. (Grand Mother Ship) Phantom, a steam silk powered ship piloted by another failed daughter of GMS
Coral gorge i will forever remember you
Oh wow, I never knew garmond and zaza can appear in sinners road
Death to Karak
coral george
I love coral gorge
It's coral slop
GLORY TO THE HOLY CIDADEL
Guys
Why did they make the citadel if they could have put a jigglypuff to sing instead
THAT WAY hear me out
Jigglypuff is too busy working for the next smash
THAT WAY bilewater wouldnt be so horrid
And you wouldnt need to fight groal
- you would meet kind khann himself
Bilewater would still suck becuse it's not the cidadel
Whats the cidadel
Khann sucks tho, he's an asshole to weak bugs
I mean why are they weak buh
Just lift a skarr
Of the deep
Grubs.... elegy...

Also
If the citadel wasnt there im pretty sure green prince could keep his yaoi
So glad grubberfly's elegy got turned into a full on crest too but the full health requirement went to the spell twister equivelent
Whats a grufferfly
Idk

You must've misread...
Im gonna edit this back myself
Why does english even work like this
Isnt it like a variation of citadel everywhere
Wait
Didnt you play sk you could've checked the map 600 times
I never played silksong
What a dodge
Intergalactic planetary planetary intergalactic
I've never heard the word cidadela in my life
2-3
Holy skillslop... you only play like this becuse you have skill
I wonder if volt pogos would go hard in nyleth fight
On older patches you can do that with drill or snare setter
Sawtooth parrying both the projectiles is crazy
** **
Nyleth crashed my game lmao
I love nyleth's fight
Is that eigong himself ..
Fire
wtf nyleth might be my fav fight
Nyleth is a really good and underrated boss
Only bad thing about nyleth is that one specific attack where she shits out those projectiles
It kills the flow of the fight and it isnt even fun to dodge
Hello
Yeah and I’m getting lucky to not get that attack somehow
1st sinner is my fav boss but nyleth is good
The attack usually only happens when you far away from the boss
First Sinner is my 2nd most favorite boss
Fiest is?
I find first sinner really overrated ngl
Lost Lace
Lost lace overrated
whats fiest
Is it also possible current patch
Nyleth is my top 1 boss now
What are your Top 5 bosses now
- Nyleth
- Karmelita
- Lost lace
- Phantom
- Second senti
Good List
My Top 5 is
- Lost Lace
- First Sinner
- Karmalita
- Nyleth
- Seth
Hitless nyleth yay
..
Mild
i'm a fencer irl... This is not how fencing looks like: https://cdn.silksongwalkthrough.com/boos-lace/aoe-attack.gif
(i did not make this gif)
what kind of rapier do you use
Finally beat savage beast fly 2. I can finally get to act 3
éepé
see thats why, this move is totally kosher in sabre
First Sinner is also my fav boss (you can imagine why)
Idk
Reminds me of NKG and Pure Vessel, my favorite boss fights from Hollow Knight (and TMG ofc, but 1st Sinner and TMG aren't super similar)
Dung/White Defender juggle if it didn't do damage
They deserve this ngl
What did you guys enjoy more, HK with no dlcs or silksong?
For me personally I enjoy sk more than hk even with DLCs
easy
Same, mainly bc how much content there is
hard to say tbh
they're both very different in how they're designed
I'm gonna say hk but I think silksong will surpass it with dlc
Then you need to practice
Silksong is for me better than Hollow Knight even without DLCs
Silksong by a good margin
b-b-but... p5 all bindings... p5 hitless no gear... i need to flex stupid arbitrary challenges in video game !!!
No DLCs = no Grimm (or Lifeblood or Hive Knight or Godhome), so Silksong
Also no dream bosses
No failed champ, soul tyrant, white defender, lost kin
Uh, those are base game
All of these except white defender are base game
Literally the 10th
still april
Silksong needs a 3rd Sentinel Fight
who doesnt fight for the meaning of what it means to exist
Only real downside of Silksong compared to Hollow Knight is the lack of replayability. Luckily the Pantheon of pharloom mod kinda fixes that
but rather do it for th money
anyway i thought Failed Champ and White Def were 100% from Hidden Dreams
did anyone not kill crust king khann as their 3 old hearts objective but only do it after
White Defender is
4th sentinel
Fuck 1st Sentinel ig 😭
Me
just like my pitcvh Idea (which TC didnt care about) about adding an ELDERBUG: THE FIRST VESSEL bossf ight
yes
He literally is, but not a robot ofc
You know how it is
wait deadass?
hk was my first metroidvania, so I didn't know what i was doing and it wasn't very enjoyable. now with silksong i can appreciate the atmosphere and environment, the world and story, i love the crest and tools systems, and the movement options, it's all cranked up to 11 and it's awesome. given that hk is the stepping stone, I'll say silksong.
it's like the second block of chocolate. it's tastier, but only because the first set you up.
then why is bro ONLY in the cradle in the citadel
(outside that one scene in choral chambers)
hk was also my first metroidvania but i actually enjoyed it unlike you
except the underworks for some reason
I like Lace, but I'm cheering for Second Sentinel
ok?
i shouldve worded this better
Twelfth Architect confirms this
no but i think they say that all machines were not meant to have a will (except themselves)
i could be misremembering though
when a machine is sufficiently sophisticated
I mean very possible it’s what the Citadel used to forcibly conquer the other regions like Verdania
Ehhh not really, they still killed one of the Princes, imprisoned the other and gave up on saving the territory
Iirc it’s downfall is due to pollution
Yes, they're homophobic
Yes
I don’t believe so but I may have missed some Act 3 dialogue
Greymoor, Putrified and Bilewater are all wrecked because the Citadel doesn’t really care about bugs beneath them
So wouldn’t be out of the question
Haunting also doesn’t affect the landscape that’s not how that works
Hornets dumb
mrrp mrreow
Not what that means
The Citadel bugs act under the will of GSM, so they are her will by extension
Yeah but it was not the haunting directly that destroyed Verdania
Can weavers get haunted
It was the Citadel
The haunting only directly affects Citadel bugs and descendants
Also see Caretaker’s explanation on the haunting
verdania wasnt clamed by the haunting
Yes, this does not mean Verdania was haunted
this violates all lore about the first fuckin act 2 boss lace
Wtf is the more saves mod broken? I started a 2nd game and the save just disappeared
cmon
Hi chat :3
why do it for bellheart
Are everyone ok? :p
GMS wanted to force bugs to love her, if they couldn’t be haunted they were annihilated
Free will is a risk like the Weavers of old to her
yeah but why was bellheart fucked over
why not greymore or litterally anywhere else
true
Bellheart is the closest city to Citadel before Hornet creates Songclave
Very likely she would have gone for Bone Bottom if it wasn’t destroyed
lace is js angry as hell and widow is prolly so brainwashed she doesnt know what shes doing
Bone bottom isn't destroyed?
It is twice technically
also i think bone bottom was set up post haunting
It’s also a town more inclined to create pilgrims so there’s less risk there
if fixer dudes still making a sign for it i think its quite recent
Man bone bottom gets destroyed every Tuesday 
act what is the silksong timeframe
how much passes from getting there to beating lost lace
see this would be agreeable
not to mention how destroyed pharloom is
yeah
what does this mean
wait is that the pale king and the radiance
they have a den and seem to have some connection to herrah whos connected to pk
isnt herrah also a weaver
yes this too
why does he look different from every other weaver then
widow has an actual explanation to this her
mask thing was ripped off
my canon explanation is either that
thats what happens to a weavers body after giving birth
drapemite evolution maybe as an experiment by gms or smth
true
ion think theres an actual reason tc mightve js forgot
also WHO is lurien bro 😭
the watcher
monomon and herrah we have alot of info about
those who watch
lurien is just
there
i lurien i here hahahahaha
moorwing was actually not bad
lurien is also the worst designed out of the dreamers imo
"The Common Beast"
"She called us divine... She lied..."
he also might have had an important role in hallownest as he had his own watcher knights and his own tower
that too
i am #1 higher being hater (except for pale king and white lady)
and unn obv
shame we got literally no info on unn
yeah crasy
son 🥀 💔
what white palace skip
wait lemme find it
WHAT WHITE PALACE SKIP
what
what is that thing
theres like one saw where you can unn underneath
the one where you crawl under a saw
lace
which saw
oh
that one
what room
that room
mhm
arent the pure vessel soul statues in path of pain
does that mean you hate PV/THK as well? they are technically a higher being and, well, actively tries to kill you
(hello there everybody btw)
i wouldnt count pure vessel cuz you only find them in godhome
and thk is controlled by the radiance against their will
yeah, and the skip we're talking about is in white palace
cenjin and brull
mrrp
ok fair enough
Imagine how weird hornet would be if she didn't wear the cloak
You'd just play as a stickbug
also i said i hate higher beings as a joke
i hate
slab but the whole game
kratt would be happy asf
is there a way to get to the bell beast station before getting ur cloak
if so couldnt you theoritically grind rosaries for a long time to get it then just leave
idk
yes
With bugs yes
eh
which bugs in the slab give rosaries
its not bugs theres enough loose money to afford it
The creators of hollow knight and the creators of silksong should do a collab
theres some rosarie strings but idk bug drops
I was talking about glitches
i think the jailers drop em
theres no glitches needed
You can't get the bell beats station naked
you can
How
you dont need cloak for bell beast
you can get enough for it in the confines of the slab
Yes you do
The heretic key is accessible only after getting closk
is it?
And bellway station is heretic blocked
Yes it drops after beating the gauntlet, meaning you have to get your cloak
im not sure if bell beast is heretic locked
it is
4 trillion ads
damn
average silksong boss
ok only like 3 do this

ok so what does ads mean in boss context
She is
spawning enemies
add-itional enemies
The entire bottom part of the slab is heretic locked
I also have a maybe stupid question
am I mad or snare setter runes and binding runes on the floor in PV's fight are basically the same (or very similar)?
which (and also some design choices behind the First Sinner's prison) implies that a spell to trap the Radiance is a weaver's tech and most likely was designed by Herrah?
!wiki Snare Setter
father of the flame, groal, broodmother, savage beastfly, moss mother, raging conchfly (technically), forebrother signis
silksong add bosses are mostly good
i think the snare rune patterns are general seal spells like in the hk verse
mostly
this is purely spectical btw
don't insult raging conchfly my beloved!!
THK uses soul runes
i dont think they outright say why they look simmilar
neither groal, fotf and concflies have adds, forebrothers summon them 2 times
top 5 silksong boss!!!!
i said he technically summons conchflies to assist him
groal definitely does what are you talking about
OHHHHH
No he doesn't, the "adds" pop in and out like the conchflies
its still an add though
It's more like a temporary projectile
Its not
its a boss spawning an enemy
Yeah, I can't say they look super similarly to me.
Yeah but that's not exactly what i define as an add
the enemy DOES dissapear in half a second but it spawns one
YOU define as an add
And technically it's just another momentary attack that the boss has, not something that lasts till you kill it
The only acceptable ads are sister splinter and craw father
ok so any bosses with ads that stay in the arena are
forebrother signis (still), savage beastfly, moss mother, broodmother
ahauhuehuehu i love craw father
i forgot these two existed
hes such a fun fight i fucking LOVE craw father
My dumbass just stayed up the entire night i am going to be so t8red today
crawfather is such an easy yet unfortunately cool boss
beastfly adds are alright
shame bros too easy 😭
atleast for beastfly one
genuinly all he needs is to fly a SLIGHT bit more and he would be an actual challenge
Beastfly 2 ads
also smth i like is how if you leave beastfly twos arena the uh
I just thought is very fitting that binding runes was invented by spiders
also explain why PK needed Herrah's help that much so he was ready to agree to any sort of ridiculous deals
instead of just finding a third dreamer between his subjects
what are they called
beastfly 2 ads might be the worst things ever
yeah i js know nothing bout it i couldnt tell you something valid
what does beastfly two summon
the fire spitting fly things
the tarmites, the guys who throw lava
the annoying fucks
smth i find interesting about beastfly two is if you leave its arena but not the room the tarmites actually guard the entrance
maybe they have more of a connection than we thought?
i thought they js dissapear
probably not but still
if you leave the room then yeah
They're programmed not to leave the arena
not the room the arena
is it possible to do the flea games before act three?
Patched
ah
No
bru ok
so like no reason to ever do beastfly 2 anymore
oh so i was oevrthinking it

more or less
Mask Shard
i just found it interesting
I mean, just because they were programmed to do something doesn't mean there isn't a story behind it.
I wonder how many people actually fight fourth chorus
i dont think theres an actual story
I do he’s fun
I have only fought him 5 times kn my 300 hours
like everyone ever
ooo look at me i learnt a cool skip that everyone does
I never skip bosses
yeah
Even SS?
game took 8 years to develop and yall alr tryna cut corners
Unless I’m doing like a speedrun
Yup
yeah we all hate silksong
like people waited close to a decade for this you can appreciate the bosses
You just get thread storm in Greymoor and she’s fine
I have 300 hours shush
4th chorus is boring anyways
i honestly do not care
i didnt even ask for that who gaf dude
Me too
h
"Waited 8 years just to play as TK again."
Anyway. This is kinda getting angry at other people for enjoying the game in a different way.
true
The block button does wonders
dude why is there always a snail reaction
i wonder why
life cz monor blocked me
If there's anyone you find uncomfortable or annoying to talk with just block them, that's what the button is for

It does.
I am not blocking someone in a first interaction, though.
obsessed <3
Like. All they did was say "y'all tryna cut corners".
for real 👀
That isn't something I find annoying.
This was not my first interaction
That's just something I wanted to criticise.
Mhmm.
Hi silksong discussion
I'm gonna talk about not silksong again
Oh God not more slop
I HATE when people talk about GAMES i HAVEN'T played 😡 /j
||Is vlad generally considered the worst boss in mio, or am i one of the only ones with that opinion
Genuinely this boss is way too hard, your only way to win is to get lucky
You have basically no way of air stalling whenever he washes machine because of the stupid wires and you're not always gonna have good rock spots|| mio spoilers
It is
Required for multiple achievements though
me not achievement hunter 
Also when do i get to see completion %, can you even do that
Time to replay silksong for the 4th time (and the 2nd time steel soul)
I should try steel soul sometime
Even tho I die Really quickly in act 1
I reached the jail cell and stopped there took me 30mins
Then went and did ascended radiance (and won after an hour)
You mean the slab
No the other jail cell
After bell beast
Thats under hunter march
So close to radiant all of hog
Where you get the first red tool (straight pin) and meet the criminal guy for the first time
Ohhhh
I forgot that palce existed
TT
Hell yeah
are you gonna deal with the first gauntlet with 4 masks?
Or play it safe
thats why i have the plasmium
It doesn't
...
Yall it's sad that my freaking MOM ruined my friendship with my most loved person(friend)
Man I hope things get better for you
That friendship got ruined 2y ago and I still mourn for it
grief
Someone on reddit called lacenet a crackship and now I am unreasonably angry
Like yeah I’m sure the 3 time boss fight that hornet dives into the fucking abyss for, that place their weapons together and end their journeys together is a crack ship sure
We were playing a game in roblox(yh ik it's cringe but wtv) and we started "arguing" as my mother claims. When she heard us she stormed into our room and said . (Meowing fish why are u behaving like that blah blah blah ) Like whole lecture making me embarrassed . I was lkwy crying and I said to my friend "Go to your house pls. Let's meet again another time" while I was lkwy sobbing. After that I called her multiple times. Suprise suprise she had blocked me. I was mad sad and angry and started to spam hate comments on my tiktok abt her.(Note that she didn't have tiktok) a year later (so a year ago) she texted me saying "Why did u make a fake account for me" I was flabbergasted. I had a small following on tik tok but I never made a fake account. My parents believed her and now I'm stuck with jst discord and iMessage. What a sad way to end a friendship
seth..
Is Shakespeare rlly dead ?
My mentality
then i hate ur mentality
Read all that and u will lkwy hat3 me even more
Why?
ill js go now.. and get obliterated for 2hours..
Use pailnail tech
am getting bullied in this last act fr fr
pailnail?
i got bullied by the huge red ant, bullied by the racer, bullied by seth and bullied by voided enemies
Bullied in life . Like rrly bad
(
gave up on skarrsing)
that too
Ugh this doesn't sound like it's that much of your mom's fault tbh

But I don't know the details so
in flat ground with beast crest, is it faster to keep doing dash attacks than just running normally?
if i use the thorns blue tool for act 3 bosses will i take 4 masks dmg?
That is really sad but why did the friendship really end because of it?
god i hate that fkn centipede
gl for the rest, def not the worst
nah the rest of act 3s bosses are fine
FUCK. FUCK I FORGOT TO FIGHT THE UNRAVELED

PLEASE, DONT TELL ME THAT THING CAN GET VOIDED
seth waiting in the corner
i dont think so luckily
It can't dw
i found seth pretty easy
no, fortunately it's not voided
(which is kinda weird but thanks I guess)

I hated the runback (ik im so stupid for not opening the shortcut) and I figured out the breakable wall after beating him
lmao
I also did groal from styx's bench
how do i genuinely beat this turbo ahh snail 💔
Not even the bellway? Wtf
seth is the boss im least consistent in tbh
Nope, I didnt explore that
WHAT THE FUCK
It was HELL bro
how many tries for groal? 💔
Like 15 or smth
Damn
takes 10 mins average to go back

ting ting ting sihir
Yup. Idk why tbh
okay phase 2 is js impossible
he becomes a literal... bomber???
"what should i do???" "ereergeg" "impact"
It might hurt to hear this but the friendship might not've been a good one if thats why it ended
Hi guys i like hunter crest aloy
how the hell do you do the third swift race
Needle phial it takes like 5 hits if you do it quickly
get good and play dirty. hit the guy, clawline him, and so on
its harder with phial imo
getting hit by anything interrupts it
It takes like 2 seconds max to charge though
You can always thug it out with beast crest...
took me 4 :3
I waznt sure whether ot was 4 or 5 honestly 💔 i thought phial took a quarter of his health
Awesome btw...
this guy sucks, he is just annoying 😭
It kinda doesnt since zango just heals, zango has a separate hp bar for the phial
nah dw
He does??
Yes.
You learn something new every day...
I think i used reaper for zango
I used reaper my entire 100% since greymoor 😭
doing optional bosses on steel soul is respectable
I'm doing attempt to 100% steel soul now and I just cowardly avoid everything avoidable xD
I basically 100% act 2 on steel soul, tried to beat gms while cursed just for glory and died there
im doing 100% too, and i want that unlimited lifeblood
i did a normal run to practice for 100% steel soul and did it completely deathless, and then right after i did one in steel soul fr and also did it first try
i was expecting it to be harder than it was
that's a glorious death indeed
oh, do you need to kill zango for that?
Did you do without quitting out at all? I definitely would've if I was on cursed GMS.
nah
No quitting 🥰
just wanted to get more lifeblood phials at once
i never used plasmium
nyleth is atrocious
I used to be so booty i did a steel soul run while quitting before i died and STILL died to the craggler
😭
well sadly I'm not that good
had to compensate my poor motor skills with cheese strats and good logistic
yea
Each to their own. I find it to suck that there are actual things locked behind steel soul. About the boss and Bellhome paint I don't care, but the tool is ridiculous. Instead there is dead bug's purse, which I don't think anybody has ever used it. It isn't shit because what it does, it's shit because it doesn't even do anything in the first place.
and im thinking about completing the hunters journal
fair enough
people beg for steel soul content but when we get it complain about it not being base game instead
Well not really:
Zango has 800 hp I believe, but can regenerate. The Phial doesn't deal damage, it reduces his health by 25% each time, meaning you can brute force him in his last phase if using the phial is too difficult.
I actually need to do steel soul again i haven't bothered with the melodies on my current run
i think the only "cheese strat" i did was just using conchcutter and curveclaw with pollip pouch on groal
OHH thank you
Yo
oh interesting
Because it's stupid to have that be the standard for every player. Steel Soul is supposed to be a challenge, not a requirement.
It's not cheese if you don't spam imo, that's just using tools for ranged attacks.
yeah thats why i said "cheese"
now im just doing my own self imposed challenges
yesterday i finished my 100% run with a mod i made for myself that disables the map
🧀
yum
guys
I'm a guy!
hi
The tool isnt a requirement either wym
100% is just prep time man, aint that bad
should i do true 100% in steelsoul?
Go big or go home..
found a funny interaction a couple days ago
True 100% is worth it when you go to your Bellhome and see everything filled out and Hornet goes to sleep.
exactly
I really hope there are new bellhome things in sea of sorrow
you can do the pin throwing minigame while cursed
Omg team cherry fishing minigame add it pleasus!! 🤤🤤
I doubt they'll add more Mementos (unless they change the size of the shelves). But other things, yeah.
I complain about the tool because the normal version sucks ass to the point it isn't even funny. It does literally nothing. It's still fine as of now, but if there were even more content in Steel Soul it would just suck for the average player base.
I don't die a lot, but I just feel more free when not being threatened with an 80 hour runback to my current progress. Playing risky and all that just isn't as fun in Steel Soul. I guess the debate is equivalent to Minecraft inventory on/off, where I again believe that the player can have the option where it's more fun to them.
having a tool thats completely useless to steel soul players be changed for a tool that actually makes a difference seems like just, a nice thing
It is absolutely a fair thing to lock special stuff (not too much of it) behind steel soul
its not that big of a deal
well, I want to try to get overdose on hunter's crest in act 2 (i'm early act 2 now)
not sure that health regen is actually better then just 7 lifeblood mask in the beginning of each boss fight
but thought it may be funny (also you can do it only in steel soul)
You can overdose on any crest other than shaman in regular silksong too you know
yoo
Fishing slop
imma get the better curve thing tool
I mean, atleast SS Steel Soul is so much better than HK's.
WE want the cut underwater swimming sections from hk
Peakslop*
but it's in Act 3 only I guess?
in act 2 only with architect crest or in steel soul
HONEST
There aren't even fish...
no?
With the whole Vassal quest.
Though the Summoned Savior.........
The summoned savior is barely boss in my eyes
That shit's absolute ass. Maybe my least favourite boss in the whole game.
Definitely, like a cool Bellhome skin and so. But when the regular version is less than trash it doesn't make any sense.
Spiders are arachnids, and so are lobsters i think so boom lobster fishing
Alongside watcher and zango
Giant lobster boss fight
lets fish up baby hornet
sands of karak...
lobsters are crustations
Even though technically in game weavers arent spiders they're their own species i think but who caaares
i think
Yes
Hk bugs aren't supposed to be their real world counter parts exacly
Summoned Saviour honestly woupd be improved so much if they just added telegraphs to its dash.
Would still suck but atleast it'll be better than something like, Palestag.
I love conquest
There are two very different looking flea looking bug species in hk and one of them are fluffly guys that can either be bipedal or flies
conquest is a cutie
dont tell me i have to do those 3 parkour rooms all over again for the karak heart and the big red cone guy?
Wish you slimed out oliver but you tried 
Apparantly there are 1,300 species of sea spiders so boom fishing minigame will be true
There is one spider species that can make a bubble around its head to breah underwater, new ancient weaver tecnique perhaps?
Which mod installer should I use?
Cogfly.
Raging Conch fly is actually just ridiculously unfair and unfun
If you get to the end there's a shortcut you can open
fishing rod as a tool
so you can fish in lava lake
or maggot's waters
Fishing rod tool that can take small enemies to you with clawline
its just hitting it a couple times when it passes and dodging
Oh my god albert einstein is back
i dont wanna fish in bilewater, i dont need to see what "creatures" live in that shit
after the boss?
Right before
it makes it so that theres a path up from the bellway in blasted steps
thank you for saving me i was so thirsty!!
Wait i just realised you're talking about raging conchfly
There IS a shortcut though in the big vertical room
At the top
It's kinda weird there's a random red tool centerstage of khann's room, wonder if that's supposed to make the player feel like that's all there is in that room before act 3? Kind of an underwhelming reward for two bosses and a semi-big platforming section of an area
that bastard ended my previous ss attempt
but it was purely my fault (I remembered that boss as quite easy and decided that I will be fine going there not in full health and without silk, children do not repeat my mistake)
i think sands of carrot was supposed to be act 3 exclusive
Or you just get a tool? Where else would you place it otherwise?
ugh the abyss climb is absolute peak, but im not looking forward to it because steelsoul
the best thing about eigong is the 3rd phase theme
its rlly not hard, you should worry about dying to ll
guys, is this killable?
Honestly it'd be cool if raging conchfly was act 3 exclusive for when you know where you have to go but get jumpscared by it beforehand
it is
yeah
aight, the grind continues
but you dont really need to
Whenever i feel slightly worried i use all my lifeblood at once
Maybe change the platforming sections a little too for act 3
Yes.
mood
-gets slightly worried
-drugs
There's a superjump spot that can skip most of it.
Pharloom is harsh man i need to take the edge off..
WHAT
I guess there is a neat silksoar skip
never tried it though
isnt it 2 silk soars
so true
thats what i did on my steel soul
can i have like a Screenshot of where to use the skip?
uhh 1s
sry for the trouble
dw
Guys how morally incorrect is it to reload your game at the very start of act 3 i'm curious what people think
(On steel soul)
i did that accidentally, i took a short break and respawned full health
lmao
When i get there (because i WILL get there) i'm probably just gonna be incredibly careful
oh, btw the "challenge" that boosts my next attack, does it work without silk and does it expend itself on a miss?
If i die there i won't be heard from ever again
understandable
and does it apply to tools?
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yeah that is what i do
I've seen a lot of people saying stuff like this, but what does it and Shakra's version actually do?
I would say it's totally legit
Regular boosts your next hits damage by 50% (only for taunted enemy)
give bonus dmg to your next swing. idk if it applies to tools
It is morally good? Don't get cocky and be smart type of thing.
wait, so it doesn't work on the spitter?
Idk how shakra's rings taunt works but ik it buffs the rings
descending dark
are you sure its only for taunted enemy?
OHHH IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU GET TO THE BIG ROOM
Shakra's version also give you style points
So i've heard
i see i see
let me check the code again
(Idk i mainly play original hollow knight i know barely anything about silksong 😭)
is sea of sorrow out?
What does it mean to taunt an enemy (visually) and does it work without silk? Also, if I taunt Widow to start the boss it means my first attack is stronger, correct?
Yes
lesgoo
the damage boost on the next hit runs out after 6s
It does work without silk.
🌊 
https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Combat_(Silksong)#Challenge read this the other guy sent it
I didn't test it yet, but what happens when you run out of rings and taunt?
i wanna swim in lifeblood
It does the Shakra ring taunt anyway.
you will have regular taunt
also you need atleast two rings
do you know if it expends itself on a miss?
Do you mean if you taunt no enemies?
Also taunting widow to start the fight doesn't buff your damage
What does this on the wiki mean exactly?
Shakra will respond to this in kind if nearby, and it can also be used near any of her calling rings in place of striking them with the needle.
I don't understand what you mean.
How sad.
i mean if we do the garama and we swing in the air, does the bonus disappear
She'll also reply with "Poshanka".
If you use the throwing ring's taunt near shakra she poshankas back
Oh. I am not sure, let me check the wiki.
And if you do it near her summoning things it summons her
Nevermind, I forgot what a calling ring was.
like, if we don't hit an enemy with our next attack after we do the challenge, does the buff vanish?
like, does it vanish on our next attack, regardless of if it's a hit or miss
checked code and does not, only for nail
it affects the same things as hunter crest combo
Also, am I getting it right that the taunt has its own hitbox when taunting?
Yes.
oh, thanks
Yeah but it's kinda small and impractical
technically it can do damage but its not really viable
It does 10 damage at max needle.
man, fuck this spitter
Poshanka taunt only challenge
that one doesnt do damage
Tuant with Silk will cause your next needle hit to deal 1.5x nail damage right
yes
Does it work on every enemy
if its within 6 seconds
I was just asking
Also I kinda want to actually use the tuant in combat using Cursed Crest
does the animation change or something i actually dont know
It only changes when using beast crest or Shakra Rings
yeah okay
For Cursed Crest in the early game the only thing you can use your silk for is Tuant so I just want to use it for fun
fair
oh my god, void enemies are weirdly difficult
The hard part is that they also drain your silk when your hit by them
Anyone knows what am I supposed to do here?
take the tool
Hello!
explore a bit more there, theres an item
you get the ruined tool and thats it
ohmygod i just died to an enemy in hunters march, one of the smaller ones too
Yes I found that but that place was after it
i think there may be some lore somewhere there?
I had to hit 2 levers but nothing happens after
yeah
will you be able to banish the void later or is the act 3 hellhole permanent?
perma
perm
OH GOD THAT WAS CLOSE
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
hehe
i guess ill get used to it
to wha
TO THE VOID
Magma bell carry!
THE GAY
That room is fucking stupid i hate it
same
i hate the entire deeper docks
Second worst room in the game
deep docks is fine, the deeper parts suck
(first is slubberslugs room)
Steel heart imo
That one room in putrified ducts has to be up there (neighbouring fleatopia/pale lake)
p5 is harder, steel soul require more patience
Steel heart
well, ive done P5 before
even done hall of gods mostly Radiant, including Absrad
currently doing silksongs steel heart
Hello!
it is infact hard
hitless btw.
no fucking shit sherlock
i did my steel run in hollow knight in 1 try.
i died at least 5 times in steel run in silksong. i once died in the gauntlet to obtain the wonderer crest, i also died on the slab fighting a minion 
Do it...
guys anyrad is easy just dont get hit
i like this look of Hornet tbh
true
thats why i was about to kill myself
goth hornet
true
hell yeah
I wonder if there will be new fleas in sea of sorrow..
tommorow
If so what might they contribute to fleatopia
this is intresting
i suck at hk 😭 im way better at ss
eh probably not




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