sk-discussion

[ancient mortar]

played it, didn't finish

[tawdry valley]

Certain rooms and hazards are predictable obstacles. This means the items you find from exploration are items you can use strategically any time in the run

[exotic dome]

play blasphemous 2

[odd hull]

Do you want suggestions?
Btw which old games?

[light swan]

discovering literally half of two whole regions i did not know existed

because turns out raebel tableland is way bigger than one would expect

[ancient mortar]

Thinking about gettting back int survival horror so maybe re2make and re4make

after signalis

[light swan]

in addition to the urayan trail and stuff

[ancient mortar]

also look outside has a new difficulty mode and new content i should play

[odd hull]

Oohh, have fun !
Re4make looks so weird to me idk exactly why

[light swan]

fr is short enough it can afford doing that

[ancient mortar]

Its strange. i kinda felt like i missed some aspects of the original version last time i played it

[odd hull]

also, have you played Crow Country?

[ancient mortar]

Havent, but its on my wishlist i think

Might pick it up, it any good?

[lavish apex]

honestly xc3 not being in my top 25 games is like categorically very unfair on my part

for how much i've gotten out of it
it's just. everything after chapter 5 in the main story man. ugh

[vivid belfry]

I should probably have MIO in my top 25

[odd hull]

I think so, it's not a masterpiece but it's short and sweet !

[odd hull]

Hmmm, like what?

[vivid belfry]

I can vouch for crow country

Gameplay is a little clunky but the presentation and story are stellar

[quartz cave]

re4 remake sucks

apparently dimitrescu isnt in it

[ancient mortar]

I liked the consistency of the original, and the tank controls, it annoys me that enemies have a random chance to be stunned by headshots instead of every time.

[quartz cave]

like why did i even buy it then

[ancient mortar]

Random chance stuns worked in re2make but not in re4s fast paced style

Also they added parryslop to the game in the remake

[odd hull]

Yeaah, is a bit funny until you get used to it - the camera angle works greatly tho. It also ||mentions Brazil|| so immediately gets a better score

[quartz cave]

it wouldnt be so bad if your fucking knife couldnt break

if i cannot even have so much as a trusty melee WHAT do i have in this world

my knife broke and i ran out of bullets early on dude they were destroying me and i was running like a bitch

[ancient mortar]

I think my favorite survival horrors are re2make and Signalis. Signalis being the best story and puzzle wise and re2make having the best combat and monster mechanics.

Cry of fear used to be on that list and it's still a great game but it's hard to praise the game knowing the kind of person the developer is.

[exotic dome]

what's wrong with the developer?

[odd hull]

Aahh damn didn't know about those things

[light swan]

i feel like its insignificant enough

for the most part stuff involving ||nia and origin|| were cool, everything else is irrelevant enough that its easy to look over

your biggest gripe with the ending isnt even very valid and you know it (i think)

[ancient mortar]

To avoid going into details let's just say he was outed with extremely damning evidence of being the worst kind of predator.

[light swan]

because while chapter 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are great, chapter 6 and 7 arent but theyre such a small part of the game

[lavish apex]

don't like this statement

[lavish apex]

don't like this one either

[light swan]

i mean didnt you say smth similar a while ago

[lavish apex]

not that i recall

[light swan]

#sk-discussion message

it kinda just isnt the case

[exotic dome]

oh, i see

[light swan]

i really dont know how i feel about "it just feels that way"

since it literally is not and you know it (based on what you said)

[light swan]

whats wrong with it?

[lavish apex]

whatever man i don't wanna talk about this right now

[light swan]

alr, sorry

[glacial kelp]

am i tripping when does this happen

[light swan]

theres too many games i need to play/replay

one day i’ll replay nine sols parryless and realize it’s a top 3 metroidvania not a top 4

wair thats never happening

[vivid belfry]

Your highest priority is slay the princess

[lavish apex]

ok sorry that was an immature deflection

[light swan]

im in such a weird spot with afterimage

[odd hull]

||The gold mines were in Pará, Brazil.||

[light swan]

i like silksong more than afterimage

but if i like nine sols more, itd pass up silksong but will never pass up afterimage

how does this work

do i even like silksong more than afterimage

is witch crest that good

[glacial kelp]

i cant be playing allese story games whilst not reading

[ancient mortar]

The funny thing is metroidvania not close to my favorite genre. Blasphemous was what got me into them, then hollow knight I came back to way later after giving up on it due to being bored with the dreamers section. I only really got into the game by the point of godhome because the bosses were so fun. There's just been so many good metroidvanias coming out I've been playing the genre all year

[orchid locust]

✅ ✅ ✅ ✅

stp is so goated

probably top 5

[vivid belfry]

10th place for me

Top 5 VNs though

[glacial kelp]

steve jobs lookin a little different

[lavish apex]

i have turned xc3's ending and other context to it over in my head for literally hours, but nothing has been able to resolve how badly it undercuts the entire experience for me

[orchid locust]

discord nitro got me hitting those per server profile pictures

[light swan]

standard temperature and pressure

[orchid locust]

what are the other 4 cause stp is the only vn i’ve played

[odd hull]

How can y'all rank games. After the first 5 I just either like them a lot or deslike a lot, no in between.

[light swan]

i don’t know either

i just definitively know my favorite

[lavish apex]

and the "i know" was essentially me acknowledging the bones that it throws you against that feeling, but they do not work for me

[glacial kelp]

if you play enough you can vibe it out ig

[odd hull]

true

[light swan]

i only realistically have my top 6 or 7 solved

[glacial kelp]

i definitely do not know my favourite so

[light swan]

everything else can go legit anywhere

[vivid belfry]

1. Umineko
2. SAEKO: Giantess Dating Sim
3. Higurashi
4. Ciconia

[odd hull]

your top what

[light swan]

you all should play saeko btw

probably the best experience i’ve ever had

[ancient mortar]

Everyone must play everhood.

[vivid belfry]

Worth noting that Ciconia is only 25% done and would probably be peam fiction if it was finished

[lavish apex]

i do not think my own feelings on that are invalid when they're so profound

[vivid belfry]

You're killing people

[lavish apex]

which is why i dislike that you said that

[light swan]

ALSO i forgot but chapter 6 literally has some of the best sequences of all time

[ancient mortar]

Does anyone know any good games that are extraordinarily depressing

[light swan]

and i apologize for that

i definitely misunderstood your “i know”

[orchid locust]

you’re on a path of equilibrium. and at the end of the path is a molecule. and in the bonds of that molecule is a catalyst. you’re here to slay it. if you don’t, we will all react.

[vivid belfry]

God dammit

[lavish apex]

||the eclipse|| is fantastic. i don't like anything else that happens, it feels very sloppy

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ゼノブレイド3-ミオ-xenoblade3-ゼノブレイド-xenoblade-gif-26383789

[glacial kelp]

the casino is sad when you lose

[lavish apex]

chapter 7 is paced terribly and the fetch quest sucks

[light swan]

oh wait i forgot blebbles you disliked this scene too

[lavish apex]

the flute scene?

[light swan]

yea i remember you expressing negative feelings with it

[lavish apex]

no

[vivid belfry]

We're doing this again

[lavish apex]

what?

[light swan]

sent the gif once

[lavish apex]

i don't remember this

[light swan]

was it the OP one

am i fucing stupid 😭

[lavish apex]

the one where she punches them yeah

the flute scene is one of the best scenes in the series

[glacial kelp]

does this feature regicide perhaps

[ancient mortar]

I get this is probably a truly depressing game but the tagline is so fucking funny

[light swan]

i still have mio’s lines memorized from that scene, it may be ass but her lines went hard

[vivid belfry]

Who the hell is regis

[sharp cobalt]

If you think about it. Hornet finds a gay tragic lover, goes into his memories, kills him which also kills him in real life, harvests his organs then put that on a shelf in her room. What the actual fuck hornet.

[light swan]

Regis look

It’s your dad

https://tenor.com/view/tbate-regis-gif-12825382108888261337

[lavish apex]

my single favorite scene in the series is probably ||jin's death|| in 2

[light swan]

ending of ttgc for me

[lavish apex]

also fair

[light swan]

idk there’s a lot of lines scattered throughout which i love too

[odd hull]

No, I only play extraordinarily happy games

[light swan]

but i cant exactly say i like the scene as much as the lines

[lavish apex]

nier gestalt/replicant

[vivid belfry]

You just recommended crow country

[light swan]

well, itd be my 2nd favorite in the whole serious

maybe rex’s breakdown would be up there too, that part also hurts

[lavish apex]

automata if you stop playing before the true ending

[light swan]

i should stop picking sad moments

give me hype moments and aura plz

[odd hull]

It's not depressing, I think

[light swan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdXhhNzFqNm1rY3k2Z3kzcDlpaTNoYzNldDFxaG10ZGw3azRxcjh2NyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/G4stuCXC4GQ56ltCwd/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[vivid belfry]

Oh it very much is

[ancient mortar]

I think the only two games that truly succeeded in being brutally depressing for me were Signalis and Lisa the painful. I need more games like that.

[lavish apex]

yeah no like who hates the flute scene in 3 though

[heady iron]

I did not care for Mouthwashing

[ancient mortar]

Never played it.

[lavish apex]

i get why you think i'm insane if that was your impression

[ancient mortar]

Heard people like it, but that the fandom is weird

[light swan]

idk my brother probably does

oh god he’d HATE the op stuff

[vivid belfry]

Saeko legitimately ruined my mood for a week

[light swan]

he literally talks about how ethel is the only character with a cool design but she’s a lame side character

[vivid belfry]

I haven't played Lisa but signalis didn't get to me that bad

[lavish apex]

that's a bad sign

[light swan]

💔

[wicked mica]

this game is so creative

[odd hull]

I don't remember the details so I can be wrong. There's some tragic stuff indeed

[ancient mortar]

Really? I'm surprised. Which ending did you get?

[lavish apex]

ethel is also like
a pretty good character?

[light swan]

im definitely starting to realize he’s a G word

[vivid belfry]

Leave I think?

[ancient mortar]

Ah yeah that one's definitely not the most soul crushing

[light swan]

yk a couple years ago i found out his osu profile was pyra and i thought nothing of it

[odd hull]

It's so weird to see a silksong print in sk-discussion..
Funny scene btw loved it.

[ancient mortar]

I got memory if you've seen it

[vivid belfry]

I've seen it but it's been a while

[light swan]

just a couple months ago i found out his discord pfp was a danganronpa character for years

[wicked mica]

silksong feels so much alive than hk

[light swan]

and now i’m remembering how he thought ethel was the only good design

definitely a G word

[ancient mortar]

Promise is probably the most satisfying. Though personally the game really only gets more depressing the more you ponder the implications.

[light swan]

couldn’t get over how clothed mio was

[lavish apex]

😭

[ancient mortar]

Lisa the painful is more immediately soul crushing, highly recommend if you hate yourself.

Mind the content warnings because hoo boy.

[graceful oyster]

YES I got one of my friends to play 9S

[wicked mica]

they dont know his name 😂

[graceful oyster]

We'll see how he likes it

[light swan]

i don’t wanna play depressing games

i mean i should cux theyre cool but idk

[ancient mortar]

I got my dad to play outer wilds. He beat it the other day

[light swan]

omori is the only game i’ve experienced that tries to be depressing i think

[orchid locust]

fire

[light swan]

and it succeeds

[vivid belfry]

Omori is the opposite of depressing

[wicked mica]

this guitar thingy is so peak

[vivid belfry]

It is about depression but its messaging is incredibly life affirming

[light swan]

idk i was depressed when i tried omori but i left more depressed

[ancient mortar]

Omori is fairly hopeful, if you get ||the good ending.||

But the lead up is very sad

[light swan]

it ends up being hopeful but it is still a sad game lol

[vivid belfry]

The moment that makes everyone cry isn't because of tragedy, it's because of catharsis

[odd hull]

Ohh definitely !! The world feels real in a way with how much everyone acts on their own

[light swan]

the bad ending stuck with me for a while (i tjink thats the hospital rifht)

[vivid belfry]

The worst ending is an entirely different route

[light swan]

i don’t consume sad media in general

i should

maybe i have and i forgot

[ancient mortar]

Lisa definitely ruined my life more but omori is sadder. I cried playing omori but Lisa was more depressing.

[light swan]

one of the xenoblade 3 characters is definitely the saddest characters in fiction i can think of

while being realistic ofc

[ancient mortar]

It is funny that the ||duet|| isn't what made me cry in omori

[light swan]

i mean i never cried to omori but i find it’s easiest to cry at night in bed thinking about the game

thats the best time for the feels to hit

[wicked mica]

definetly ts is going to my top 5 games

[cerulean sable]

would Murkywater prevent the fall of Pharloom

[light swan]

no game has ruined my life yet

[heady iron]

No but stillwater would

[cerulean sable]

TRYEE

[vivid belfry]

Hey.

[ancient mortar]

Lisa the painful tagline is " a life ruining game " iirc

[light swan]

the xenoblades make up a big portion of how i view the world but i wouldn’t say that’s ruining, it’s more beneficial

[odd hull]

Every time I think about saddest things in fiction I'm immediately reminded of Nina from FMA

[light swan]

have you heard of this game called saeko

[vivid belfry]

I have

[lavish apex]

deltarune is probably gonna be depressing

[light swan]

you should play it its very fun

[vivid belfry]

That's bullshit

[light swan]

i gain a lot of pleasure and joy from the game

it’s full of cheer and whimsy

the document explaining the meaning behind the game is half a page max

[vivid belfry]

Okay this is possible

[exotic cedar]

I don't want to cry playing videogames i want to kill everyone

[odd hull]

100%, have fun ! There's a lot to see yet

[light swan]

uou can do both!

[ancient mortar]

Could be or could be very hopeful. I honestly have the feeling it's going to be bittersweet like a lot of my favorite game endings.

[lavish apex]

i hope it isn't depressing

[odd hull]

Sif had me doing both

[ancient mortar]

Everhood is surprisingly hopeful for a game with its premise

[lavish apex]

what is its premise

[light swan]

i want more depressing games tbh

[ancient mortar]

Very difficult to explain without spoiling

[light swan]

laika was plenty depressing but it was more the thought of it than the feel of it

[rough anvil]

Hey illusion what boss do you hate the most

[ancient mortar]

It's premise is slowly revealed throughout

[light swan]

in what

[rough anvil]

Silksong

[light swan]

probably groal

[ancient mortar]

Signalis if you like silent hill style horror games.

[rough anvil]

ANOTHER ONE

[heady iron]

The most depressing game is Mario

[light swan]

the rest dont matter enough for me to put it at the very bottom

[odd hull]

Why the goat

[ancient mortar]

The princess is in another castle...😭

[rough anvil]

Cmonn i already did groal dirty

[lavish apex]

huh

[light swan]

like sure zango or voltvyrm or palestag suck

[rough anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[light swan]

but like no one cares about them

[lavish apex]

alright so like

[rough anvil]

Which one of those 3 do you hate fighting then

[lavish apex]

out of curiosity
because it's on sale on switch rn
what makes outer wilds so good

[heady iron]

When I saw Mario stomp on that poor goomba it made me burst into tears

[rough anvil]

Hate the most

[exotic dome]

i cried at lethal company

[ancient mortar]

As in the game is pretty surreal at the beginning and what's actually occuring and what the world you are in is does not become clear until later.

[light swan]

idk i’ve only fought them once

except for voltvyrm i’ve fought it twice

[rough anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/alijr-baki-baki-ali-baki-ali-jr-ali-jr-cry-gif-12603625643514798085

[rough anvil]

Pick plss plsssss plss😭😭

[light swan]

savage beastfly 2

[rough anvil]

And what tool or item do u hate the most

[odd hull]

almost 4am.. Good night everyone !

[exotic dome]

gn

[light swan]

ummm

idk i dont dislike any

[rough anvil]

Hurry catboy

[rough anvil]

Well which one have you almost or never used

[light swan]

i probably care the least about memory crystal

[rough anvil]

Okay !!

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379781128918925404/1392285524227788971/DA984BD1-4208-415F-9627-FE0D3FEFBFAB.gif

[ancient mortar]

Avoiding spoilers but It's extremely unique in that its a mystery game with a heavy focus on exploration and nonlinearity. You can explore the world and piece the story together in nearly any order and the puzzles are all very creative and fun and build on each other. The story is great and told in a very creative way and a lot of the puzzles can be solved in a variety of creative ways. It has a lot of very interesting mechanics, great music, writing, graphics and ideas. And probably my favorite ending in gaming.

[light swan]

am i wrong?😑

i’ve said worse

[exotic dome]

i need to play outer wilds too

[ancient mortar]

Has great space flight and zero gravity mechanics and makes great use of them

[light swan]

wair i am wrong im not a cat boy

[exotic dome]

there are too many games to play, too little time and too many lectures

[rough anvil]

If anything to me you always acted more like elderbug

[ancient mortar]

Outer wilds isn't too long. Could be anywhere from 10-50 hours depending on how much each puzzle challenges you.

[light swan]

oh yea i forgot idk why im mentioning this now but afterimages story is insanely good

like ik i dont fully understand it but that’s what makes it so good

it doesn’t feel like your average slop metroidvania

[keen minnow]

guys my friend told me that you can meet the knight in silksong, I got sister of the void achievement and I was awaiting the cutscene with the knight but it hasn’t appeared, can you meet the knight or not? (If yes I need knowledge please)

[lavish apex]

i see

[ancient mortar]

Sometimes the best stories are nigh incomprehensible and take multiple playthroughs to understand

[exotic cedar]

What is sif

It sounds familiar but my ass can't like rember it

[light swan]

@sif the el jibbity

[light swan]

yes

[light swan]

the character arcs and actions are just so deep since the lore extends to the creation of the universe (and maybe past that idk)

it’s so detailed

[ancient mortar]

Also it's a game that rewards exploration the most in any game I've played.

[exotic cedar]

It only appears in the cutscene

[light swan]

everhood isnt just bossfight and nohit simulator?

[exotic dome]

a dark souls boss with a sad story (idk if she is referring to a different thing)

[exotic cedar]

Oh i don't play dark souls

[keen minnow]

how to I make it appear in the cutscene

[light swan]

get the sister of the void ending

[exotic cedar]

Defeat lost lace

[ancient mortar]

Im talking about outer wilds. But everhood has an overworld and exploration, characters, and pretty great story.

[keen minnow]

I alr did but the cutscene didint appear

[ancient mortar]

Everhood is fairly linear though there's only a few great secrets but it's a short game

[exotic dome]

next stop after nine sols is probably outer wilds

[light swan]

maybe it did and you didn’t see it

[ancient mortar]

It really is brilliant.

[exotic dome]

this server making me pick games

[light swan]

literally

[exotic cedar]

this server made me play nine sols

[ancient mortar]

I found outer wilds through this server too tbf

[exotic dome]

it all started with mio

[light swan]

this server uhh didnt make me play anything

actually this server will make me play sekiro

[queen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-egg-crack-gif-17965500839898910502

[keen minnow]

lemme beat lost lace again for the cutscene

[ancient mortar]

I think we convinced you to play laika

[exotic cedar]

NOOOOOOO

[ancient mortar]

And rain world eventually?

[light swan]

no i was planning on it beforehand

[exotic dome]

fuck it cracked again

[orchid locust]

this server genuinely filling up my wishlist

[light swan]

rain world my friend from a different server bought for me

i wasn’t planning on playing it until then

[rough anvil]

Heres your memory crystal savage beastfly looking thing

[light swan]

i think i was the one who brought up laika and you said it had a good story

[queen acorn]

hehehehhehehehe

[exotic dome]

planning to play the most parry game ever, i see

[ancient mortar]

I also played mio because of people here

Probably would have never given it a second glance

[light swan]

technicalky blasphemous 2 came from this server but i already had friends telling me to play blasphemous 2 before blebbles

[rough anvil]

Carol

[lavish apex]

this server got me to play mio (and kinda afterimage but that's just illusion) and it's going to get me to play nine sols, i'm literally just waiting until that goes on sale

[queen acorn]

haiaiaii

[lavish apex]

which will probably be soon

[exotic cedar]

I heard about rain world but it doesn't interest me much

Maybe ill play it sometime

[light swan]

one day i’ll get more people to play afterimage

ima need to start making afterimage aurafarming gifs firsy

[exotic dome]

afterimage is also in my library lol

[ancient mortar]

If my time on this server makes one person play everhood and enjoy it I've succeeded in life.

[light swan]

give me my circle spam gif

[lavish apex]

if i get anyone here to play something it better be hyper light drifter

[light swan]

give me my racecar gif

[light swan]

on my way to fullfil your goal now

or wish

[ancient mortar]

I played it but it was so long ago that I never finished it. Wasn't very good at games back then. I should go back and play that again

[light swan]

i always forget how cool racecars are in afterimage

[orchid locust]

i will forever be an outer wilds shill

[lavish apex]

i'm gonna do that

never heard about it before you

[light swan]

reminds me of qmc but movement oriented, not combat oriented

[lavish apex]

also just waiting for a sale

[exotic dome]

that's also in my library

[light swan]

also if i play yomi hustle eventually just know it’s from my own accord and not from grynne

[light swan]

so many things in your library, make sure to keep it well defended

[exotic cedar]

What if i ate some of the games in your library

[light swan]

also i’ve had a change of heart regarding mio’s story (like, just now)

[exotic dome]

don't ate 6 sols

[light swan]

nine sols tops mio’s story i think

[lavish apex]

how so

oh interesting

[light swan]

and afterimage gets pretty close to mio’s story

[exotic cedar]

My library has like 15 games

[ancient mortar]

It was well known for a brief moment as a big YouTuber played it but fell off the radar after a while. Personally it's the game that got me into nohitting bosses and it's fights haven't been surpassed by any other game. (I reccomend starting on expert difficulty as the lower difficulties are too easy (there's also a insane difficulty designed for nohitters after you beat the game once.) it's also the source of my pfp and has a story that I really enjoyed.

[exotic cedar]

There's like 3-4 games i haven't tried yet and 2 i didn't really get attached to

[light swan]

i always knew nine sols story was really damn good but i didn’t know if i liked it more than mio

that was a topic of contention for my brain for a while

[lavish apex]

the gameplay is like rhythm game bullet hell type stuff right?

[light swan]

as for afterimage, i simply remembered how good it was

[lavish apex]

i think i'd rather start on normal because i'm historically pretty bad at that

[ancient mortar]

Kinda, I compare it more to utdr personally at least to me? As it's not about dodging to the beat actually it's more like playing a character dodging the notes on a guitar hero track. The core premise is simple but the amount of complexity the fights gain as it progresses is what makes it brilliant.

[light swan]

i wanna get more ppl to play afterimage but i forgot how critical this server is

[ancient mortar]

I do think it's combat is 100x better than utdr

[light swan]

y’all only play good games and not mid games like afterimage

[ancient mortar]

Just on account of the depth of the later combat mechanics and boss design.

[lavish apex]

afterimage is probably a good game

[exotic dome]

yes we hate everything

[exotic cedar]

I like anything except silksong

[lavish apex]

i've played some ass games

[exotic dome]

it looks good

[lavish apex]

afterimage isn't really one

[light swan]

i’m glad you think so

[lavish apex]

i need to like. actually finish it

[ancient mortar]

Everhood is very generous difficulty wise in that outside of nohitting it's pretty forgiving. Nohitting makes the game 10x harder because even on expert difficulty you have pretty fast health regeneration and even checkpoints in longer fights.

[lavish apex]

to have a fully developed opinion
though

[ancient mortar]

While insane difficulty removes checkpoints

[light swan]

i remember seeing someone say that afterimage was the pinnacle of bad level design and map design and exploration

[ancient mortar]

Dying is usually because you made multiple mistakes in a row. Which tbf isn't that hard to do with how complex the fights get but it's still not the hardest game I've played outside of a few secret bosses

[lavish apex]

maybe like furi then?

[ancient mortar]

Perhaps I've not played it.

[light swan]

btw afterimage has 10 endings

[lavish apex]

its very hard to avoid damage but there's some decently generous healing and every boss gives you 3 tries per phase

[light swan]

it’s not as bad as y’all think but it’s funny

[exotic dome]

everhood looks like undertale

[ancient mortar]

I recall I played everhood on expert first time while not being super versed in the genre but managed to get through most fights just fine like maybe 10 or so attempts max. Only the 4 secret super bosses really took over 50+ tries.

[quartz cave]

what is wrong with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i just bought re4r i still need to finish brothership bananza and mio yet im still looking for a new game to play

[light swan]

you cannot be this lost 💔 youre probably the most lost person i’ve ever seen

[ancient mortar]

I compare the two a lot. I'd say the combat is vastly superior but it's hard to beat undertales narrative.

Tho I love everhoods story

[light swan]

oh ok it’s not about being lost

[quartz cave]

hey i wouldnt have been lost if the game hadnt told me i visited a room when i infact hadnt

[light swan]

how do you visit a room you didnt visit

[ancient mortar]

Yes similar to that. Dying requires making several mistakes in a row but the health regeneration lets you recover from most mistakes if you lock in. Difficulty mainly effects health regeneration speed.

[lavish apex]

i think early game a lot of the jumps between platforms and such can be pretty tedious

[quartz cave]

i dont know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this game sucks!!!!!!

[lavish apex]

but that goes away after the thing

[light swan]

youre right

i wonder if you can racecar with other weapons

[normal rapids]

Beat true ending boss

[light swan]

it sounds doable on sword

i never tried

[lavish apex]

and also like

[light swan]

wait you start with dash right

[lavish apex]

not getting a single actual movement upgrade or anything for like 4 hours is pretty rare for a metroidvania

[ancient mortar]

It's a really good system as it makes bosses doable for the average player but giving an absurdly hard but fair challenge for those seeking to nohit.

[lavish apex]

yeah you do

[light swan]

what the FUCK is the point of getting a fucking slide bro

useless fucking ability i forgot existed

you already have a dash 😭

[lavish apex]

blasphemous does that too though, 1 just doesn't have movement upgrades and that sucks

[light swan]

what does 1 have again how is it a metroidvania

[lavish apex]

it's kinda hard to explain but it's more you have things that interact with the environment in specific ways rather than new shit tpo can do himself

[ancient mortar]

Unironically everhoods bosses are the only nohits that took me like 200+ tries. There's four secret super bosses that are so difficult to nohit but I never put it down because they were so fun, had 0 runback time (you can restart a fight as soon as you die or through pause menu) I think one of the super bosses took like 500+ attempts to nohit but every death was my own fault.

[light swan]

oh yea i dont like that either

it exists a bit in b2 as well

[lavish apex]

and for some absurd reason they're equippables that you have limited spaces for and have to swap out in the menu

[ancient mortar]

Blasphemous has a lot of flaws. It's carried by it's good bosses and immaculate art.

[light swan]

wait what 😭

[lavish apex]

instead of just being permanent

which is the most baffling thing about that game to me

there's just literally no reason for it

you also don't need a single one of them to beat the game

[light swan]

like ice and the baby rings

not the most happy about that

[ancient mortar]

The only boss fight I love that I think I don't have a chance of ever being good enough to nohit is promised consort radahn

[lavish apex]

ice?

[light swan]

i felt that way for mio’s last ability too

[light swan]

the platforms

[lavish apex]

oh

yeah right that
that was dlc actually

those weren't in base game

[light swan]

the ice platforms ability was dlc? wtf

[ancient mortar]

What game we talking now

[light swan]

i don’t have the dlc i thought

[light swan]

blasphemous 2

[lavish apex]

they added it for free at the same time as ng+ and the paid dlc

[ancient mortar]

Ah never got to it

[light swan]

ah

[ancient mortar]

Blasphemous has such gorgeous art

[lavish apex]

it has my favorite art in any game

[light swan]

until you get to the cinematics in b2

[lavish apex]

literally ever

i love pixel art

[light swan]

i remember running out of screenshot space for afterimage

there was just this one area with really good murals

[lavish apex]

i liked the first one and the one where you get the first real upgrade so far

rainbow plains was alright too

[light swan]

the part where everything goes dark and you drop into rainbow plains was cool

my favorite video game area of all time is in afterimage and it’s pretty stunning too i think

[rough anvil]

Waht

[light swan]

well, tied for favorite video game area of all time probs

[ancient mortar]

My favorite art in a game is a hard call. I like so many styles. The beautiful pixel art of Lisa the pointless contrasting with it's intentionally hideous character design. I loved the oil painting style of dishonored, mios unique shaders and colors, laika and silksongs style. rain worlds brilliant pixel art, everhoods weird surreal style, offs off putting surreal shit, look outsides brilliant character design and background art. Signalis's low poly horror. There's so many good styles.

[lavish apex]

okami is up there

for me

mio also looks fantastic

obviously hkss

hyper light drifter, again

[light swan]

for me it’s either mio or one of the xenoblades

[lavish apex]

such a gorgeous game

[light swan]

i would choose xc3 since i like the artstyle but the switch doesnt really favor it and it’s pretty outdated

despite being one of the best games ran on the switch

mio it is! pretry worthy

[lavish apex]

idk if i particularly like any xenoblade art style independent of environments

[light swan]

low poly horror !!

[lavish apex]

all the games have very good looking and unique environments

for the most part

[light swan]

i like the shading in xc3 specifically, it does it in a way that doesn’t feel as cartoony as botw or the hoyo games

[lavish apex]

that's fair

[light swan]

im also kinda factoring in animation probabky

[exotic dome]

most bosses are mid in terms of fight imo, they are aesthetically amazing

[light swan]

xc3 doesnt deserve to have regular animation be this good

why do the fight scenes look interesting

[exotic dome]

(i haven't finished the second game yet)

[lavish apex]

the dlc bosses in blasphemous 1 are almost all good but other than that i don't think any are particular striking, independently of their visuals and designs

which is one niche it basically mogs 2 in

[ancient mortar]

Yeah Signalis looks like this outside of cutscenes.

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049138425233690696/1491585793813381371/image.png?ex=69d83b05&is=69d6e985&hm=e994879436103ea360e47009207a8443e1151bd404e0d9a487e23e756e4b945b&

i dont think this is spoilers jts just a random background

[ancient mortar]

The classic resident evil top down style isn't for everyone but I'm a fan

[lavish apex]

2 still has great visuals

[light swan]

but it’s a cool background

[lavish apex]

i just don't like them as much

there's no boss that looks as insane as like esposito

[light swan]

the only thing i havent analyzed are the attack animations

[lavish apex]

no moment that captures the same kind of aura that the mea culpa shrine cutscene does

[light swan]

like im sure ouroboros has WAY more depth if i look at their attack animations

[lavish apex]

or the wall of holy prohibitions

[light swan]

ik mio has some of the coolest animations ever

she just doesn’t show it in cutscenes

[wicked mica]

no way they added gambing in silksong

[light swan]

but she’s legit teleporting and using portals and floating energy rings and shit

[light swan]

i don’t remember thes it’s been too long since 1

[lavish apex]

the fucking blood helmet scene in blasphemous 1 was made by aliens

it's so insane

[exotic dome]

this boss was visually great (blas 2 dlc spoiler)

[lavish apex]

oh yeah that one is sick

one of the better fights too

[light swan]

oh god i just remembered i liked afterimages ost too

[neat python]

Woooow really spoiling it like that

[light swan]

i guess that’s another thing the game has going for it

[lavish apex]

2's smooth animation cutscenes are so boring

absolutely the biggest loss from 1

[exotic cedar]

That looks cool

[light swan]

it’s not just all piled into exploration, the art is mostly good and the story and ost is AMAZING

[exotic dome]

literally tagged it as spoiler

[light swan]

made me feel things only xenoblade areas made me feel

xenoblade 2 specifically

and some areas in 3

[ancient mortar]

Rain world has some great pixel art backgrounds.

And foregrounds

It just looks so cool

[exotic cedar]

I love dead cells backgrounds

[lavish apex]

i wanna post hld screenshots but i feel like they're spoilers

[light swan]

man i should go to sleep

check out this cool screenshot

[exotic dome]

i have dead cells steam background on my profile (i've never played it)

[exotic cedar]

Its a good game but there isnt much story

[ancient mortar]

Just tag as spoiler and then put a message saying "(GAME NAME) SPOILERS" before the image.

[exotic cedar]

The games main focus is gameplay

[ancient mortar]

It has lore tho, didn't care much for dead cells personally but it defo had lore if you looked

[light swan]

i played dead cells but it stopped working on my broken google play laptop 5 years ago

[exotic cedar]

Yeah but i wish there was more to some characters

[exotic dome]

one of my friends shared screen playing the game, it looks good

[ancient mortar]

If you want roguelite with no real plot play curse of the dead gods. Gameplays great but man is there no story.

[light swan]

i temember thinking it was a metroidvania then being sad when i found out i respawned from the beginning each time

[exotic cedar]

My only problem with dead cells gameplay is the curse system and scroll scaling

[ancient mortar]

Roguelikes aren't that appealing to me, except a few like nuclear throne

[exotic dome]

i did that 5 mins ago and some guy still opened it and accused me of spoiling the game

[exotic cedar]

You definetly shouldnt be able to melt bosses

Doesn't feel like a "boss"

[exotic dome]

i heard it gets harder no?

[light swan]

Endgame Hollow Knifht spoilers

[exotic cedar]

Higher difficulty = More scrolls

[ancient mortar]

Did you say "GAME NAME SPOILERS" beforehand? If so then it's their own fault.

[exotic cedar]

They are just trolling

[exotic dome]

ai generated hollow knight

[light swan]

also take this random video idk what it is before i sleep goodnight guy

[exotic cedar]

Good nigjt

Celeste looks fucking insane

I played it for a bit but i didn't get attached to it

[exotic dome]

gn

[wicked mica]

is there some critical hit thing in wanderer's crest??

[split lodge]

When you have a full bind worth of silk you have a 2% chance to trigger a critical hit which does 3x needle damage

[wicked mica]

on any crest?

[vestal flicker]

wanderer exclusive passive

[split lodge]

On the wanderer’s crest sir

[vestal flicker]

every crest has a passive this is wanderers

[split lodge]

Bro was not focusing

But that’s the hunter’s passive

[wicked mica]

i was confused cuz crest menu doesnt show that under wanderer's crest

like other crests do

[ancient mortar]

Yeah I'm not sure if it's a stated mechanic strangely enough

[civic island]

I think it does

[strange knot]

Celeste mentioned

[graceful oyster]

Dang who took that

[violet leaf]

Y’all quick question, who’s juan?

Like that name comes under karmelita boss card

[exotic dome]

the kickstarter backer who designed karmelita

if you enable backer credits on settings you'll see their names

[violet leaf]

Oooh neat

[lavish apex]

i found a boss in afterimage that i actually had to try against (that i still beat first try that the game told me i was underleveled for)

[civic island]

Holy skill

[lavish apex]

i'm not good this game is just really easy on the normal difficulty

[wicked mica]

is there any shortcut to last judge im missing

the runback looks preety long

[lavish apex]

there sort of is one

[violet leaf]

I mean if u see the environment there’s less enemy path u can take

[wicked mica]

yea i found it

but still its a preety long runback for probably the hardest boss yet

[sage glade]

day 1 of eating food

[undone gate]

The runback takes less than 20 seconds if you sprint past all the enemies

[wicked mica]

too long

i need a bench adjacent to boss to find it productive

[undone gate]

It's nothing compared to a runback of a certain boss

[wicked mica]

im kidding i have survived dark souls 1

[ivory chasm]

The nearest bench is the bellway one did you unlock it?

[wicked mica]

yea

[ivory chasm]

Are you struggling on the conchfly enemy placement? other than that the runback shouldn’t be too bad

[wicked mica]

im chill

[thorny mica]

uuuugh...
Despite having already beaten this game I am genuinely considering modding away the double mask damage entirely given how much i HATE that dumb thing..

That said, it has been more than half a year since the game came out, has the community consensus evolved in regards to the topic from the braindead "Actually HK let you face tank everything so this is actually better" kind of arguments?
I really am frustrated with the game about this and I HATE how every boss battle feels like if I lose my concentration for even a SECOND I instantly die...

[wicked mica]

wanderer's crest made this game too easy for me now

[ivory chasm]

The contact damage is the problem

[thorny mica]

It feels like the entirety of the game's difficulty is less on learning enemy patterns and fine tuning your movement and more so brutely trying to hyperfocus the game until you are essentially trying for a no-hit run

[thorny mica]

honestly if they had made SOME attacks deal double damage instead of every boss' every attack then it would've been a trillion times more digestible...

[ivory chasm]

Widow is probably the most balanced boss

[thorny mica]

Like Silksong has ONE instance of tripple mask damage and it is from GMS' attack that even has a special little cutscene... So it's clearly treated with a lot of seriousness

[ivory chasm]

are you attempting a steel soul run or just a second play through

[thorny mica]

And hillariously enough she is my favourite... :'>
And even more ridiculous is the fact that her moveset and mobility is literally on par with Grimm, who is a late game boss in HK so she's ALREADY really hard even without the double mask damage

[thorny mica]

just replaying and am just utterly FLOURED by how much I am still dying to the bosses

[ivory chasm]

Honestly my only problem is the contact damage because getting double damage by a staggered boss feels unnecessary

[latent terrace]

Now that I realize it

[thorny mica]

it feels like- yeah it's not about your mastery over the game, it's all about essenitially never losing focus or your rythm in a fight not even ONCE or you are gonna get 2-tapped by a boss and instantly lose 4 masks

[latent terrace]

Even False Knight seems much easier than most act 1 bosses in Silksong

But that ain't much of a comparison for early game bosses...

Or mantis lords

And soul master

[thorny mica]

that's an understatement... :'<

[thorny mica]

the bosses in silksong are all from the get go requiring the skill mastery as the late/endgame ones of HK ONTOP of you only having 5 masks and a ludicously limited ammount of silk storage given how healing slurps it all up

[wicked mica]

mantis lords were bum

easiest shit

[latent terrace]

They were fun atleast

[wicked mica]

most glazed boss of hk

[wicked mica]

sisters of battle were

[thorny mica]

they are literally one of the best bosses in the game you be quite

[latent terrace]

I would argue that its NKG instead

[wicked mica]

atleast nkg isnt mid

[thorny mica]

every boss from everything that ever has been created can be "baby level easy" if you've beaten the game a trillion times over, I certainly have

[wicked mica]

i have beat the game 1 time

[thorny mica]

It took me SOOO many attempts to beat NKG aand now I literally barely ever die to him

[wicked mica]

my top 3 boss from hk would be 1. absrad 2. nkg 3. pure vessel

absrad lowk took me over 60 tries

[thorny mica]

holy crap same, and that's not even counting the extra attempt required to be able to consistenly beat her for pantheon of hallownest

[wind gate]

What would change in silksong if Hornet was whatsapp green?

[wicked mica]

absrad was soo much fun tho

[thorny mica]

that shit was GRUESOME...

[wicked mica]

absrad is #1 in both

nkg was easier but more fun than pv

[thorny mica]

and yeah... Maybe I somehow managed to miraculously forget any trauma from the event but I really can't remember having the same ammount of frustration for absrad as I've had for bosses in Silksong

despite honestly Absrad feeling a bit rng-ish at times... Especially at the second phase

[wind gate]

I think lost kin is fun

[wicked mica]

idk about sk yet. i only reach last judge rn

moorwing and widow was fun

[wind gate]

And without that one really annoying attack

[thorny mica]

Oh.

[wicked mica]

nah widow was more fun than moorwing

moorwing was easy shit

i just pogoed it to death

[thorny mica]

she's an absolute blast, yeah

[wind gate]

I cheesed moorwing

[tacit relic]

Juggle and Bounce covered...

[wicked mica]

why

[tacit relic]

Why is dodge so hard?

I got 90 like... twice.

[grizzled turtle]

what did i just walk in on

[wicked mica]

lol what

did u not call the "sexyy boyyy" guy

[rough anvil]

Man i genuinely love double dmg

We finally have no plot armor

[thorny mica]

what does that even mean???

[strange knot]

Lmao

[rough anvil]

Wuh

[rough anvil]

HELP

[tacit relic]

I'm right below him...

[wicked mica]

why does hornet no longer shouts "get gud"

[tacit relic]

Because she has to get good.

[wicked mica]

he gives emotional support

[rough anvil]

Because she grew up and realized telling that to people is very mean... and to replace it with her garama slur

[strange knot]

Because she know understands that that advice fucking sucks

She said Garama in og hk too though

[tacit relic]

I'm suffering rn... and I got that number twice.

[rough anvil]

Yeah she didnt grow out of slurs

[wind gate]

do you think they made slurs for weavers

[strange knot]

I think Garama is “fight me”

[tacit relic]

Maybe it's peasant.

[strange knot]

Or smt like that

[tacit relic]

or C'mere.

C'mere Peasant.

[rough anvil]

Its like the N word but weaver

[wind gate]

Why would Hornet say that

[rough anvil]

Cause she a weaver

[wicked mica]

why tf some randomm prison have so much aurafull lift

[fallen spoke]

"i bet you cant catch me" - garama maybe

[tacit relic]

I want to raid this flea caravan and loot everything.

[wind gate]

I think Ediro means fuck you

[strange knot]

Go genocide route

[wicked mica]

shaw?

[tacit relic]

Shaw pharloom.

[strange knot]

I didn’t even say anything about undertale…

How is it spoiler if it’s just a reference

[wind gate]

Everyone and their mother knows about Undertale

[thorny mica]

YOU CAN KILL PEOPLE IN UNDERTALE ! ! !

[short kiln]

No

[thorny mica]

IT'S GREAT!!!

[strange knot]

WHAT NO WAY???

Btw you can’t, you can only kill monsters

[fallen spoke]

yeah, their grandma too

[short kiln]

You can irl aswell, it's apparently frowned upon tho

[thorny mica]

Goddamn dude-

[wind gate]

Assuming that the monsters aren't people?
#NotVeryWokeOfYou

[fallen spoke]

monsters are people in that universe

[strange knot]

Is it as great as the great papyrus though?

[rough anvil]

Racist

THAT COULD GENUINELY BE THE RACISM OF UNDERTALE THOUGH

[thorny mica]

It's considered a cheese tactic for getting a lot of loot really quickly, unfortunately the playerbase is a bunch of elitist nerds that think that you must play it the boring "intended" way, smh

[strange knot]

Noo don’t cancel me it was just a joke

[thorny mica]

Go work in a mcdonald now

[strange knot]

I love spoiling games

[thorny mica]

The First Froggit you meet in the Ruins is actually ASGORE in disguise

[strange knot]

I never in sk help

[thorny mica]

Like Zeus transforming into an old man on the side of the road to secrely give aid onto a greek hero on their journey... But instead trying to murder you

[strange knot]

I should probably go to hk discussion and spoil everything in silksong

[thorny mica]

Hornet's mom is Herrah!!!!!!

[strange knot]

Ut spoilers: ||papyrus is sans’ brother||

[fallen spoke]

undertale spoiler : UNDERTALE IS A VIDEO GAME

[thorny mica]

||Sans is actually Steven Universe, his name is an acronym for Steven After Not Surviving||

[strange knot]

WHY DID YOU NOT SPOIL TAG THAT WTF

[fallen spoke]

BECAUSE IM EVIL

[strange knot]

||Sans is actually a font||

[fallen spoke]

||papyrus too||

[strange knot]

Btw sans is last judge

[worthy lintel]

Some of the Act 3 events are a bit much

[fallen spoke]

NO PAVOOOO

[strange knot]

Pavo deserves it tbh

[fallen spoke]

you evil monster

[strange knot]

I’ve got personal beef with pavo

[thorny mica]

how come?

[fallen spoke]

what did he do

[strange knot]

I was speedrunning true ending and I lost like 30 min because I needed to talk to that piece of shit shaking my head

[thorny mica]

goddamn-
Wait for what thing?

[worthy lintel]

Here I've killed him a few other times

[strange knot]

Bellhart donations

[thorny mica]

ooh

[strange knot]

Ty

[thorny mica]

odd

speaking of town npcs uuh what do you do to progress the little pilgrim's story? I don't think I ever actually saw its conclusion to be honest somehow?

[fallen spoke]

it ends in ||pilgrims rest||

[thorny mica]

yeah yeah, I know that

I mean how do you get it?

[fallen spoke]

just dont kill skull tyrant for a while, until he moves out of bone bottom

[thorny mica]

Last I remember is them mentioning that they will finally start their journey and... then I never see him again :<

[ivory chasm]

Are spoilers allowed here

[thorny mica]

***wuh oh ***

[strange knot]

Yes

For silksong and not other games though

[ivory chasm]

Will Crust king Khann ever get buffed he’s still an underwhelming boss for act 3 I know the gauntlets are difficult but I expect a hard boss

[strange knot]

This chat was so good lately I love 9s discussions

[fallen spoke]

you gotta finish act 1 without killing skull tyrant, he moves to pilgrims rest in act 2, im pretty sure

[strange knot]

Dunno

[thorny mica]

PLEASE DO NOT BUFF HIM

I was SOO happy that he was that easy since it meant that I wouldn't have to do his goddamn gauntlent a billion times over!!!!

[fallen spoke]

i think its fine, his whole thing is being a leader, so his gauntlets are his boss fight imo

[strange knot]

You won’t do gauntlets before bosses in some kind of godhone dlc

[thorny mica]

WUH OH

[strange knot]

hopefully

[thorny mica]

I already kinda killed the skull tyrant...

[strange knot]

Can you just not sit on bone bottom bench

[ivory chasm]

If he was in a boss rush mode he should be buffed because he’s like a reward for beating gauntlets

[fallen spoke]

idk about that

[fallen spoke]

yeah i agree, we could get absolute khann in godhome dlc or smth

[strange knot]

Crust dictator khann

[ivory chasm]

I killed him in act 2 and he was still in the marrow

[thorny mica]

I swear, I am pretty sure I did the quests for Skull Tyrant as soon as it poppsed up in my first run and still had the little pilgrim move away before the attack happened

ANYWHO YEAH

what happenes AFTER you find the little pilgrim in.. Pilgrim's rest? I never saw them after that

[cerulean sable]

Hornet should have a blicky

[fallen spoke]

nothing, i think thats the last you see of him

[ivory chasm]

I think pilgrim’s rest get destroyed in act 3 I’m not sure about little pilgrim

[thorny mica]

that's... very underwelming... :<

[strange knot]

Probably dies on the way to citadel because they are useless as fuck

[thorny mica]

oh yeah, absolutely gets nuked

[fallen spoke]

yeah he should've been in songclave with sherma

[fallen spoke]

fr pilby is overrated

[strange knot]

No they deserve to die they fucking suck

[fallen spoke]

ok thats a little much, but thats still quite underwhelming

[thorny mica]

true, by that point we have after all already murdered all the big threats across the pilgrim's way so they - just like sherma - should have found an easier passage

[strange knot]

We yes we hate Pilby

[fallen spoke]

i just purposefully kill him in replays lol

[thorny mica]

guuuh

speaking of killing npcs and not

[strange knot]

Idc about them in replays I just ignore Pilby

[sage glade]

only when i'm not here

[ivory chasm]

Spoilers are allowed confirmed in the pins

[thorny mica]

Given that you can use the Green Prince's heart for the ritual, is it more or less "recommended" that you actually spare the big Ant Lady given what we learn after the fact?

[sage glade]

i didn't make the pin

[thorny mica]

like I know it has no actual impact on the game itself other than the story or the future of the world... But yeah nevertheless the question stands

[ivory chasm]

I don’t think anyone knew clover dancers gave a heart on their first play through

[thorny mica]

the fact that you are even given the choice is so interesting

[sage glade]

do you mean blue prince

[thorny mica]

yeah same here

[strange knot]

Should I play blue prince

What’s it about

[thorny mica]

speaking of the story and Act 3

[strange knot]

Act 3 sucks btw

[thorny mica]

I am GENUINELY unhappy with how Lost Garmond ends with his death... Like it's not even given a moment of gravity, I didn't even realize he was dead only after coming back to the location

It's like Myla in that I feel unsure if I SHOULD even fight him

[ivory chasm]

He’s my favorite npc for helping me in high halls gauntlet

[thorny mica]

abso-fucking-lutly, he is an absolute gem and I love him

which makes that THIS is how he dies all the more frustrating

He should've gotten a goodbye like Quirrel, HE WAS THAT GOOD

Instead he essentially gets off-screened by the void has a "I think I am gonna go to sleep.... *dies" ending

[ivory chasm]

I love how he helps you in most areas in act 3

[sage glade]

the most elaborate puzzle game ever concocted. it's about a boy (you) inheriting a mansion where the rooms are blue prints which you employ to build the house yourself, but every room has a mystery or connects to a larger mystery. the name of the game itself is a pun (blue prince/prints), puns being one of the puzzle techniques that come up again and again. but that's only one of the minor types of puzzles, i really don't wanna spoil the rest. if you like self-discovery knowlege-gated metroidbrainia type games like Outer Wilds, you'll like this one

[thorny mica]

I KNOOOOOOW HE IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF SILKSONG

[strange knot]

It’s not woke they should’ve make mc non binary bad game /j

[thorny mica]

I freaking LOVE the settlements, I LOVE how much the various characters are intergrated into the world itself and how they help you in various ways, it all feels so wonderfully lived in and alive

[ivory chasm]

Team cherry makes sure they kill our favorite characters

[thorny mica]

YES, GOD

[sage glade]

the story revolves around very woke matters tbh, the lore goes deep

[strange knot]

I love when my fav characters die ngl

[thorny mica]

GIVE US ACT 4 TEAM CHERRY!
SHOW US THAT GARMOND ACTUALLY SURVIVED GAAAH

[sage glade]

who is garmond

i'm still playing resting grounds in hk

[strange knot]

This sounds awesome

[ivory chasm]

Then why are you in Silksong discussion

[strange knot]

I probably gonna play it after I hopefully finish omori

[devout oracle]

It's a cool touch to see the craws ditch their juror forms after beating Crawfather

[sage glade]

why do you hate me

[ivory chasm]

I don’t I’m just asking

[devout oracle]

Worst case scenario, they get voided anyway lol

[thorny mica]

guh..

[ivory chasm]

I will avoid any kind of spoilers if I’m planning to play a game

[thorny mica]

is the Crawfather available in act 2 or act 3? I somehow never actually encountered them

[devout oracle]

Should I do Verdania and Clover Dancers before or after Lost Lace?

[thorny mica]

not that I regret it, the craws STINK smh

[devout oracle]

Act 3

[thorny mica]

okie good to hear

[ivory chasm]

You need the "Craw summon" I got it randomly from the far fields bellway bench

[thorny mica]

the what

[sage glade]

sure. it's a bit frustrating though at times, some aspects are luck-based (the house resets each run, you carry the knowledge over). it took me several months to piece together the huge mindmap of the puzzles to unlock the true ending

[thorny mica]

huh

[devout oracle]

Basically it's like them suing you for your crimes

[sage glade]

never said i'm planning on playing this game

[ivory chasm]

Alright mb then

[thorny mica]

i mean storywise everything happens before Lost Lace
That said do whatever you want, tbh

[sage glade]

you're good

[thorny mica]

hmm okay so extremely weird question

[devout oracle]

Meanwhile, I'm already at the Abyss. If I get too mad dying at Lost Lace, I'll go to Verdania

[thorny mica]

but does anyone else have ADHD?
I am geniunely curious if I suck major ass in Silksong because I keep freaking losing my concentration when fighting bosses or I really do just personally suck that much for some OTHER reason

[sage glade]

doesn't really matter, but they're much easier than lost lace so you might want to leave the harder one for more fun later

[devout oracle]

Last time I went to Verdania, I died to Palestag

[ivory chasm]

Not a hard boss if you have muscle memory from Lace 2

[devout oracle]

I do
I eventually got good tho

[devout oracle]

Yea. I'll just need to make sure I avoid anything void damage related

[strange knot]

I dunno if I have that I might have it tho

[ivory chasm]

Do you play aggressive on your first attempt or try to read patterns?

[thorny mica]

It feels like I already beat the boss in the 4-5 attempt after that it's just that 30 extra attempts of trying to brute force your muscle memory into having play as perfectly as possible...

[strange knot]

Being good at lace 2 makes me bad at ll

[ivory chasm]

I don’t think this is normal

[devout oracle]

It's quite funny how I beat Khann himself on my 2nd try
Y'all were right when y'all said he's easy

[thorny mica]

I've been replaying the bosses and I guess reading patterns and all that is a non-issue, like I am very sure of myself that I can consistently avoid a boss' attacks BUT I still keep dying to them over and over and over again

maybe I just lose my rythm in a fight and get wombo comboed to oblivion in 3 secs or.... I really don't know

[ivory chasm]

What boss do you find yourself struggling in?

[thorny mica]

I DON'T KNOW why I am having such a difficulty with the game in general

[ivory chasm]

It took me 64 hours to reach lost lace is this normal(first play through)

[strange knot]

I always mess flea juggle up because something distracts me lmao or I’m just on ds

[thorny mica]

replaying the game and I am after beating Widow and it has so far been ROUGH... I don't know why I am still having difficulties with the bosses, my mechanical mastery is already there and I already know their attacks

I just... Suck for some reason??

[devout oracle]

Maybe before lost lace, I should do every other wish and stuff tho. Including beating Clover Dancers and Tormented Trobbio

[thorny mica]

Maybe just my reflexes are abysmall or something?

[ivory chasm]

It’s all good Coral tower took me about 3 days

[thorny mica]

oh my god saame..

[strange knot]

i reached lost lace in 4:50:xx in the second playthrough I reached her.
Completely unrelated I jst wanted to say it

[devout oracle]

Bilewater is only good If you found The secret bench and have the wreath of purity

[strange knot]

it definitely didn’t took me more than a week

[rough anvil]

Guys

Did yall break the spike after the 3rd gauntlet in coral tower😭😭 bc it seems like yall didnt

[ivory chasm]

I don’t blame you

[devout oracle]

Also, the runback through Putrified Ducts is HORRIBLE unless you got the shortcut to the Flea Fest

[strange knot]

I did. I just spent week gettting there

[thorny mica]

It just all feels frustrating.
I don't have this moment like in HK where these bosses that once were A MAJOR pain when I was first fighting them now feeling slow and extremely easy...

They feel just as hard as the first time...!!!

And I don't want to go through the exact same stuff with bosses like the Last Judge OR THE GODDAMN CHEF

[rough anvil]

Have you considered taking a rest

[ivory chasm]

I forgot to buy a map in my second play through in the marrow and is stuck in the hunter’s march gauntlet without Shakra’s help I’m not sure if it’s skill issues or not

[thorny mica]

I mean yeah, I haven't touched the game since yesterday, I am very much "taking a break"

and honestly they really don't seem to help...

[devout oracle]

I definitely didn't beat the game with cheats the first time I played it just because I didn't know where else to go after finding the Bilewater bellway (my blind ass did NOT notice the breakable wall to The Mist)

[rough anvil]

How long do your breaks last

[thorny mica]

I don't magically get better at the game. I just don't want to murder someone from frustration anymore (until I replay the game)

[rough anvil]

Sounds to me like anger issues
You should work on that/gen /lh

[thorny mica]

that was an exageration and also a byproduct of me feeling like the difficulty of this game being utter bollocks

[rough anvil]

Still

[ivory chasm]

You are expected to struggle on the game

[thorny mica]

it's not complex movesets, it's not a requirement of fine movement that I am not meeting, it's just me losing my focus FOR A SECOND in a boss fight

[strange knot]

Chat do I speedrun Celeste or sk today.

[short trout]

Finding those two doesn't make the dart shooting enemies any less annoying

[strange knot]

I kinda need to get sub 50 in Celeste I’m kinda sub 50less

[devout oracle]

True

[cedar mesa]

i wanna become mister mushroom at some point in life

[rough anvil]

We*

[strange knot]

BILEWATER IS ALWAYS GOOD

[devout oracle]

At least I didn't get muckmaggoted when I beat Groal cuz wreath

[strange knot]

With the sole exception of slubberlug room of course

[wind gate]

muckmaggot sounds like an innuendo

[thorny mica]

We've all played Hollow Knight and I personally didn't have the same FRUSTRATING experience as I did with Silksong, the limiting factor there is your actual skill, the limiting factor here is how close I am to essentially no-hit-ing a boss

[strange knot]

I love bilewater

Bilewater is the best area

objectively

[thorny mica]

not even any of the Dark Souls games expect you do any of that

[short trout]

At least in Groal's boss fight gauntlet they are telegraphed and you can see where they spawn. In any other part of Bilewater they just randomly pop out of nowhere and then proceed to dive into seemingly any surface the milisecond they hit you (so using logic like trying to get them on solid ground does nothing since they phase through it anyways).

[wind gate]

which boss do you think is overrated

[strange knot]

You can parry their shits and they always spawn in one place…

[short trout]

Karmelita 100%

[strange knot]

First sinner

[thorny mica]

honestly, I always run as fast as I could during that whole section of the area, they are very hit-and-run type of enemies so... I just RUN RUN RUN until I make it out

[wind gate]

Karmelita as well

[strange knot]

Karmelita is the best boss in the game how is it overrated

[devout oracle]

At least the summons Groal do get killed by that Giant spiked wrecking ball

[rough anvil]

I love bilewater

[short trout]

Wdym always spawn in one place? Outside of the gauntlet their only tell is them snickering which only lets you know they can spawn, not where

[ivory chasm]

It took me 60+ hours to beat both games I’d say silksong is slightly harder but they’re both equal

[strange knot]

Same

[wind gate]

she is not fun lol

[rough anvil]

Should they buff voltvyrm

[devout oracle]

So true

[thorny mica]

there's no way that Silksong is "slightly harder"

[heady iron]

Someone should make a king von edit of Hornet so team cherry releases SoS sooner

[strange knot]

They can’t spawn in other places other than the ones they are coded to spawn

[devout oracle]

No. The runback to Voltnest is already bad enough

[strange knot]

She is?

[rough anvil]

I was gonna ask if people die to voltvyrm💔💔💔💔💔💔

[strange knot]

She isn’t fun to no hit but counting no hits suck

[devout oracle]

That is also true

[wind gate]

Not for me, blocks attacks way too often

[devout oracle]

They die on their way to it

[wind gate]

Anyway as for overhated I pick Pinstress

[short trout]

You can apply that logic to like 90% of enemies

[strange knot]

Yeah so they aren’t any different

[strange knot]

Palestag.

And lost lace

[ivory chasm]

The only things I truly struggled on is last judge, High halls gauntlet, Coral tower, Karmelita

[wind gate]

Palestag is just kinda nothing, it's like the soul warrior of silksong

[thorny mica]

i cannot believe that one of the most beautiful and wonderful games is also one that has genuinely given me ptsd the more I look back on it

[strange knot]

Nah palestag is better than soul warrior imo

I kinda like it

[thorny mica]

like I am SERIOUSLY dreading going through certain sections again

[strange knot]

Basically my experience with oneshot:

[open bane]

does dying to memory bosses end a steelsoul run?

[strange knot]

||“Goodbye Niko”|| enough to make me cry

[short trout]

What are you on about what other enemy jumps out of the ground, shoots you and immediately pussies out becoming untargetable. At least other super agile enemies don't vanish from existance.

[thorny mica]

probably not, just like in Hollow Knight with Dream Bosses

[open bane]

i see

[strange knot]

Yeah I kinda hate them too, just gotta defend my fav area

[devout oracle]

I struggled at Last Judge, Trobbio, High Halls gauntlet, Lace 2, GMS (WQ ending), The Unravelled, First Sinner, Shrine Guardian Seth, Karmelita

[open bane]

Seth took me so long, but its such a good fight

and Karmelita is my fav fight of the whole game

[wind gate]

Seth was a good fight, I beat him at around 3 or 4 tries

[devout oracle]

I knew using Flintslate on her paid off

[devout oracle]

So true

[ivory chasm]

Flintslate + Wanderer crest

[open bane]

also, i love that Seth is listed seperately in the credits in the special thanks. RIP, my friend

[ivory chasm]

Best boss in the game

[wind gate]

Larger font size too

[devout oracle]

That's literally the combo I used

[wind gate]

Btw you should see what Seth's last reddit post was

Or reply I guess

[strange knot]

Hunter and witch are way more fun on her

[open bane]

[heady iron]

He just like me fr

[ivory chasm]

He’s even my pfp

[open bane]

now im curious

[strange knot]

Btw there is totally nothing weird about this no hit fight

[open bane]

deletes hitbox

[ivory chasm]

Flintslate and Wanderer crest spam strat is probably easier

[strange knot]

Witch and hunter are way more fun

[wind gate]

I hardly used red tools for bosses

[wind gate]

I always had the popular mindset of "I'll use this on a harder boss"

[devout oracle]

Believe me, I tried a lot of strats to try beating Karmelita, but the pogos were really ticking me off

[open bane]

i only used red tools on bosses when im sick of fighting them. Groal, Both Savage Shitfly fights... Random poison tools go brrr

[ivory chasm]

And then you have 700 shards on LL and you still don’t use them

[wind gate]

I tried using tools on groal but ended up beating him without any

[open bane]

i just hide in the corner and spam cogflys

[strange knot]

Imagine fighting groal

[wind gate]

Lost Lace was when I finally used tools frequently lol

[devout oracle]

I tried Witch, couldn't quite reach the targets
I tried Architect pollip tool spam, but that didn't quite work for me either
I tried Reaper with Flintslate and fleabrew. Too slow
Wanderer and Flintslate was the play for me

[wind gate]

I stayed in the shit water, same method

[open bane]

exactly

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/groalskip-bilewater-silksong-gif-6731360718331877033

[open bane]

im not risking a 18 hour steelsoul safe on groal

[wind gate]

they patched this didn't they

[open bane]

im not doing that.

[strange knot]

Yep they did

[ivory chasm]

Nobody knew that on their first play through btw

[amber wedge]

genuinely cogfly and curveclaw spam

if you have max nail for act 2 he dies in like 20 seconds

[strange knot]

Because team cherry fucking suck for patching out Everthing in their game I love

[amber wedge]

thats what i did on my steel soul run

[wind gate]

silk issue

[hallow lodge]

groal feels fun now cuz maybe this is my 6th playthrough

[open bane]

i used Threefold pins and cogflys

[strange knot]

Only fought groal once on my second playthrough

[open bane]

im definetly cleaning up all of bilewater before going into act 3
i dont ever want to go back there

[wind gate]

You'll need to go back there in act 3 anyway lol

[amber wedge]

pins are good too

[open bane]

for what

[strange knot]

You do?

[amber wedge]

No you dont

[open bane]

you can get seekers soul in act 2

[amber wedge]

Unless i am misremembering something

[amber wedge]

u HAVE to in order to get to act 3 anyway so it wouldn't be this

[wind gate]

Could've sworn there is a quest requiring bilewater in act 3, or maybe just to get 100%

[open bane]

yeah i just realized that, lol

[amber wedge]

i dont think theres any silksoar in bilewater or anything

[hallow lodge]

I don't think so

[open bane]

only quest in bilewater should be trails end