#sk-discussion
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yea
Shes murglin herself
true...
I thought that said sapphic ceratinia
seraphic ceratinia is out of the equation then
Criminal to put 1 over 2
Is that illusion im running away
I understand you like Mio 2nd final boss but he ain't that good
Wait....
(MIO FINAL BOSS) ooh yeah ||shii needs his health doubled|| 
no one btw
meow meow meow im a little catboy
is this just a lighting or screenshot difference or was her drip actually a different color from the others?
they're both hated (also this text colour is disgusting)
Anyway my opinion is kinda skewed by modless dodgeless which was really fun
i’ve already said my piece, nine sols final boss would probably be above if i liked the combat system more
honestly (nine sols spoilers) ||knowing eigong is the final boss is making a lot of stuff way more interesting ngl||
it’s brought down purely because parries stink
Hmmmm
It was pretty cool for me and I didn't regret knowing
I solved it
It made seeing the intro just that much cooler
It was like it was a prophesied meeting
YOU WHAT
I was finally there
while mio’s 2nd final boss is paired with my favorite metroidvania combat system, nine sols final boss is paired with a 6/10 system i like less and less as time goes on
are we ever gonna get a new indie game without parrying
so while one is better than the other, i like the other more because it’s way more enjoyable for me
Does Constance have parrying? Lol
i know parries can be done well

unbounded counter
Does the game have to be good or?
Nine sols does parries well!!!
You act tuff and like a 25 year old how did this occur
Yeah
furi and gow4 parries are definitely examples of that
if unbounded counter didnt exist tje nine sols final boss wouldn’t be on the top 5
no
i think blasphemous 2's as well
Oh so that rules out Constance
constance cant have anything fun in it
i’ve always been this way
😭😭😭😭😭
holy SHIT
ooh furi is on the bucket list
so true
i haven't played sekiro but i hear that game does them well too
that’s why i wanna play sekiro
constance always catching strays 😔
I think where I disagree with your stance on 9S parries, now that I've finished the game, is that there is a punishment for spamming parries, and it's that internal damage adds up FAST and can make that one real hit hurt a lot or nearly straight up kill you
Yeah Sekiro is fantastic mostly because the bosses have movesets that are complex enough to work
Thistlewind has a pretty unique weapon for a hk character
Like the way I see it is that if you are gonna have a simple combat system you need complex enemies
That's just a nail lance
i’ve beaten almost all the bosses as well as the game on 0 hp all internal damage
Mantis Lords and the flying guys in CoT have them too iirc
Cool
i love internal damage as a mechanic but like
what is internal damage?
And 90% of the weapons are a nail nail 

I'm just saying this now that I have the ability to discuss
why does it have to keep you alive
that’s what i dislike about it, you can just never die
nothings better than getting a good parry after a series of fucked up ones and seeing your health go back up 🥹
Imprecisely parrying makes you take a temporary damage that becomes real if you get hit
whej i realized how little internal damage mattered i breezed through the game so fast
think of it lik red health in ttgc
Yeah I did admittedly start thinking about them afterwards lmao
oh interesting
you can heal it back but not if you get hit again
And it is a lot of temp damage
except the difference is that you can’t die from internal damage
which i tjink is really stupid
i love damage you can heal from but the fact that you’re invincible
Joni's blessing + hiveblood
Also Imperfect Parries stun you a bit if you do that on the ground
in my personal experience with the game it was stupid
Eigong...
Sure, I do think internal damage should kill you. I never let it get to that point while I played but as soon as I found out I was surprised
Makes steely jade cracked out of the wazoo
Regardless your not getting any damage by doing Imperfect Parries so you still need to make sure your safe for Tailsman
whats that
yea i still went for perfect parries for qi
||Enemies can't interrupt talismans. Side bonus, all damage taken is internal.||
ohhhh
even if internal damage could kill i feel like that brings the combat system from a 6 to an 8
standing still and parrying almost fucking everything is still not something i enjoy
nine sols combat is NOT a 6 what are you on
THEN DONT DO THAT
look it’s above average be happy
im being generous
you dont HAVE to play optimally if thats not fun for you
9S combat is pretty solid, you only parry as much as enemies attack you and it's finding the window to tag or strike that's the fun part
in the final bosses firsy phase, 5 out of 7 attacks require you to stand still and parry
Well the first phase is the tutorial anyway
Or you can jump parry
the second phase adds 1 new atyack and 2 new variations
in the new atyack you either stand still and oarry twice, or you stand still and parry 6 times
I really didn't think I would enjoy a parry based game that much until I played Nine Sols
Same
the variations make you stand still and parry twice before UC which i love, i enjoy theee attacks even if it’s still stand still and parry
See you're just standing still too much, there's stuff to be done in between the parries
to dodge the attack you stand still and parry
obviously youre doing stuff when the boss isnt attacking
you can parry in the air btw
I like to optimize the amount of full control tailsman I can get so I like to use it while she is attacking or during her downtimes
yea youre parrying literally fucking everything, my point is proven
yeah thats the fun part
Instead of getting hit, yeah, and taking every opportunity in between to hit her
That's like, how bosses work
MIO bosses have a huge problem in the abundance of downtime and she just doesn't have that
if you don't have to reposition that's a little lame
For many of them you do
at least in other games you actually need to think about how you counter it
im in the slab and hornet shawty you is fine can i say that am i gonna get nuked
There's one flurry where you can stand still
im happy you dash away from the crimson slash
Guys look another weirdo sexualizing hornet
you literally told me not to parry earlier
I like nine sols combat tbh, hit and run tatics kinda back and forth
Isin't the whole point of parrying just that you hit a button to avoid an attack it isin't made with thinking in mind
you can have your own play style yeah
you can definitely just dodge a lot of shit if you really try
which is why i fundamentally dislike the concept of parries
ALL parries
unless they make you think
i learned by gummy that this game does not want me to do that
was really fun to use unbounded counter against ||fuxi||
i remember complaining to my friend about the bigass hitboxes forcing me to parry
What, like For Honor? But I think that's more like blocking( haven't played it)
wdym for honor
The game, forgot the capitalization
it’s funner when i react to different attacks differently idk where honor comes in
idk what game that is unfortunately
I do like Silksong combat system more than Nine Sols because it requires more thinking while I also think Nine Sols Combat System is amazing at what it does
Parry games are kinda like rhythm games tbh
Medieval weapons fighting game, to block the enemies attacks you have to know or predict which directions they're going to attack from being left right or up directionally, iirc
the fact that there’s talismans and charge attacks and things to do between attacks is the
ONLY
reason why nine sols combat isnt a 2/10
well also unbounded counter which is a fucking amazing mechanic that i love so much
yeah i imagine most games would have shit combat if you removed half of the mechanics
It's a pvp focused game but has pve elements
Nine Sols is just not your type of game if you dislike parries so much
Grrr if 9S didn't have this and this and this and that then it would suck!
exactly. it’s not the games fault it’s me disliking parries
Games with parries are kinda like rhythm games

enoblade
people are out here telling me that there’s things to do in between attacks
If YOMI Hustle didn't have Robot Overflow it would be a 0/10
like bro i fucking know that thats the only reason it’s not a shit combat system
😭
does the parry make nine sols easy
Technically you are just parrying the notes to make them not damage you
no the parry is the baseline
Is the parry the rhythm game or the rhythm game the parry?
difficulty is not a factor for my hatred for parries
i do get where you're coming from
Ultrakill parries are good tho
three sols

have not played ultrakill
are you the strongest because you're satoru gojo or are you satoru gojo because you're the strongest ahh
i never saw horizontals on these kind of game its so cool 
i think it is good when games expect a lot of varied defensive responses
so what do you think of hornet's regular parry, with the needle not the silk skill
"Pharloom bay is outside of the blasted steps"
just gonna put this here now ;3
This is within Weavenest Murglin
useless, all risk no reward leads it to being not a very interesting mechanic
Phigros's gimmick is that the judgement line(line that you need to tap the note when it reaches) can move anywhere and everywhere on the screen
that being said if there was fitting reward i’d likely dislike it
The bay is up and to the right of Murglin, to the point of being able to hear the ocean from within it XD
I don't intentionally do it but if it happens accidentally then I like it
you dont really need to look that deep all you need is character dialogue and the trailers description
what is the game name?
I just said it
Phigros
although you can still only parry certain things so it woudlnt be the worst
Aye, but people are reallly, reallly dumb
silksong needle parries are just hype moments and aura it's barely a real mechanic outside of maybe some specific projectiles
Then you have arcaea which is just
3d
and even with bosses like karmelita you need to backdash to not get contact damaged
did sea of sorrow drop?
Oh right someone brought up gow 2018 right?
me
And for bosses like Lace it just sometimes turns your attack into a parry so you deal no damage
Yeah that parry mechanic seems pretty cool especially with the customization of what you can do afterwards and the buffs it gives
gow4/ragnarok parry is very good because there are a lot of unparryables and executing them is often a risk
You probably like LadE a lot because most of her attacks aren't normal parries
Or if they are they're often aerial
The LL dash attack in question:
Ragnarok still sucks however
You should also mention ultrakill when it comes to parryables and unparryables
There's lots of attacks in ultrakill that can't be parried
It's just so easy to parry that when you want to hit her
i had more fun with her than nog
like a lot of bosses will have combos that you can either bring up shield for OR parry for a bigger reward but more of a damage risk and also a lot of attacks that you are forced to dodge or reposition for
furi is basically the same
What is nog
Ei
but nog is so well designed i cant possibly put nog under lade
i haven't played ultrakill but i disagree that ragnarok sucks
According to 90% of reviews, no it doesn't so eh
unless you mean the story, that's a fair take
A lot? Do you mean literally almost everything
Ragnarok is just a straight up downgrade from 2018 in every aspect
but i don't care so much about that
nog is so well designed shes my 2nd favorite metroidvania boss of all time
Also I never use the bow so I don't know how that affects fights
Less combat and move variety less gameplay as a whole far less difficulty and lets not forget 90% of the game is cutscene simulator
What happened to 90% of the runes from 2018

atreus parts do suck
Which boss is nog
the final boss
90% cutscene simulator is false
Of Nine Sols
like i talk about how 5 out of 7 of her attacks are just parry bullshit but that still leaves 2
Atriox
How so
it just is?
and shes still fun probably
OH SHE JUST SNAPPED A NECK GO HORNET
i don't think it has much more of that than 2018
I really don't know what you expected the response to be lol
HELLO?
i dont like to leave nine sols conversations on the note of "i hate nine sols" because i fucking love the game
5 minutes of combat
30 minutes of cutscenes
All the time
Oh it definitely does
i just fucking hate parries and its nothing against nine sols its purely against the concept of parries
And Phace 3
not what i remember at all
I can't listen to heng music because it makes me so dang sad for no good reason
Play them again then 
It's TOO sad
phase 2 adds more parry bullshit and a bit of UC, phase 3 adds more parry bullshit and a bit of UC
me trying to listen to xc2
Also what's funny about ultrakill parries
You can parry a giant
But you can't parry a 4 legged abomination swinging a small sword at you
i like the valkyries more than the berserkers i will say that
Valkyries were peak
even though hrolf is a banger he's not as good as sigrun
Especially sigrun
Kicked my ass
Literally giant
Vs
that one trio fight with the berserkers is kinda hot ass
Good heavens I forget how awful ultrakill looks
Wdym awful
Epilepsy simulator
... Okay fair
ultrakill is so slop
But it's good slop
i bet 35% of the players listen to femtanyl too
35% is a low estimate
I have yet to play the new layer of Ultrakill
Heard the p ranks for them are smth
8-3 p-rank time is 17 minutes 
Jesus
E n j o y
Fraud///third
Disintegration Loop
Fraud///third
Disintegration Loop
Fraud///third
Disintegration Loop
Beware if you have epilepsy/motion sickness
Because fraud is completely RUTHLESS in both
They literally put you in a rubiks cube 😭 😭 😭
i kinda hate how witch crest has lower attack speed
who needs attack speed i havent neutral attacked in my life
also hunters crest isnt that bad its kinda fun to figure out
playing silksong without hunter pogo is like strictly less enjoyable to me
Hunter 💜
It's the 3rd best crest in the game
If DK country cartoon didn’t have the funny music it would be 3/10
Only behind architect and shaman
yea i see the shit you do none of that is neutral
Is this another silkpost?
No it's real
yea because thats hornet and not the silksong
Hornet WILL be drowning in Sea of Sorrow
real
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YcPF5DFHcVE what the fuck
Is that hungry knight reference?
if illusion didnt have the activate windows watermark hed be a 3/10
the sleepless nights are catching up i can hear primal aspids buzz in pharloom
well id be cool no matter what but the watermark is like one of the skyscrapers in my country so i guess it still matters
you shuld learn
👁️


Wonder how the dlc will treat the true ending and the aftermath of it
mount fae ugh
Like it's only Hornet and Lace left
theres a cold mechanic
Pharloom is like dead dead
use it for everything else thats cool !!
Me wondering if I should use my next memory locket on hunter, witch, beast, or shaman
i havent even touched sawtooth circlet in my life so id have to leave witch crest combos for after that
Any tips for twisted child ending
which one do you think is the coolest and funnest
I mean, I don't see why it matters
It's just going to add a new area to the game it's not post-game or anything
why do you need sawtooth circlet for cool witch stuff
but witch combos are harder to do right
The basic witch functionality of bind nuking works plenty well for most people
But doesn't the ending still leave a bit of cliffhanger?
well yea witch is the hardest crest for a reason
i agree
Like, what will the future be for pharloom, lace and Hornet?
but its cool and interesting and underrated :(
pharloom can rebuild without them
Why does that matter for a dlc will take place before the ending tho
cuz im not gonna try learning the hardest crest if i dont even know how to properly use the best blue tool
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i hope hornet and lace leave to go somewhere else
i guess 🙄
theres nothing you can do except getting good
i hate radiance
Okay, I don't know if the dlc will take place after or before the ending
use clawline a lot
This is very much implied by the final title screen unlock
bro there are like 6 benches here help

i hope to see it
i hope hornet dies and lace can journey into Lacelight on her own
You don't need to
nvm this is the same bench
Do you really think Team Cherry will make like, some kind of Act 4 as the very first dlc to the game only 6 months since the game came out 
maybe its a damsel in distress thing where lace needs to save hornet form the serene kingdom this time
Maybeeee?
Your expectations are way too high
actually you just gonna use clawline properly
as if hornet would be reduced to such a position
that would give lace a MASSIVE ego boost though and she'd lord it over hornet forever
It’d be hard to make an act 4 happen
We will make sea of sorrow into their own standalone game
If we do that we can’t refight Lost Lace until Godhome
Should i just enter act 3 without twisted child ending
Are there any modded General Y's
I need to fight this boss again where he's hard again
If act 4 isn’t godhome, we’re screwed because they need a new final boss and that boss can’t be the Shade Lord
Wonder how much harder pharloom pantheon will be compared to hallownest
I feel like Godhome is just gonna be some Act 3 thing
I mean we have NKG and Purr Vessel, aswell as Zote in Hallownest
It's more fun that's for sure
stage of destiny or whatever its called, the last stage you duo X and Y
If there are no new bosses it’ll be harder
I think this is gonna depend on tool behavior
I did it 1st try in the Pantheon of Pharloom mod and it was a lot more fun than Pantheon of Hallownest
If we get new bosses plus Shade Lord as the final fight… we’re all gonna die
P5 is so ass highkey
it was my personal farming challenge because fl7 is so damn strong
Tormented Trobbio is annoying to deal with, but I made it.
Groal would probably be before the Old Hearts since he’s the last boss needed to reach act 3 besides Grand Mother Silk
do you think silksong's final pantheon will include all the garbage bosses
The tornado or the bombs?
Nothing will ever be as ridiculous to me as the Karmelita battle
And Act 3’s boss roster is centered on these 3/4 bosses
The tornado is the easy part. It’s those cheap bombs
even if pantheon of pharloom contains all the bosses it won't be as bad as P5 because silksong doesn't have as much garbage in it
but i would very much like them to cut out voltvyrm, zango and palestag
yeah, silksong's equivalent needs to be streamlined when it happens
Guys who is ur favorite flea
Which boss do you guys see that can have a new version in the pantheon?
I think they might add the FAT FUCKS IN HIGH HALLS
Huge Flea
if this was hollow knight they would include those
why the hell does gms have exactly 1204 hp
The idiot who managed to get stuck in ice in Mount Fay or Vog
they would also include covetous pilgrim, cogwork clapper, rhinogrund and flintbeetle
Mooshka
turn poph into a roguelike where you can select the boss you fight as well as upgrades along the way
Ok not flintbeetle
mfs in pantheon 5 of pharloom having to fight double cragglers for the 20th time
Either your jump attack or it will kill you first lol
such as abilities, needle upgrades, tools, masks, silk spools, etc
and huge flea, void mass, skarrgard
Why no kratt guys hes so lovable 
and include gauntlets
hollow knight would've put this in godhome
Coral Tower Gauntlet?
But they would include Skarrgard, Craggler, and maybe Those Fat Guys in Coral Tower
i just realized how much i’d love this
They might even include Gargant Gloam. Maybe.
dont diss my shardillard
hollow knight would've put this in godhome
you can diss that its fine
this makes me feel 2 dimensional
ME SHOVING MY SHIPPING OPINIONS DOWN UR THROAT
i mean HK is a 2d game
i don't watch phineas and ferb
Since lace need silk to survive, does that mean she's codependent on Hornet?
yes
pfft phinneas and ferb
bro didn’t remember total drama existed
no
lace is a brilliant character and i love her because she kills innocent people and wants pharloom to be destroyed
void heart is inconsistent and weird which is why lace is a better shade lord than the knight
Okay, time to put down the glazing machine
glace
sigh
does hornet have a hitbox during cross stitch
wait i think she does
the same way how she does during witch pogo
just with iframes
guys
Guys
gg
my first play through is DONE!
Which boss do you guys think is the first skill check for players in the game?
bell beast
Bell Beast
fourth chorus
The bat of moors
widow
(Pre nerf)
one of these things is not like the others
bell beast is "this is double damage, get used to it"
lmao
ggs !!
skarrgard, widow
Pure Vessel is the only boss in Hollow Knight where it is impossible to get hit for 1 mask damage.
bell beast is also like: this is moss charger so its easy asf
In Silksong, that’s true for the second boss in the game.
that's not fair
idk about bell beast, its hardly a skill "check" as it is a skill "baseline"
Wait actually I forgot about Zote
bell beast sucks compared to mossy!
since its quite literally the first real boss i think
bell beast is similar to moss charger but the differences make her bossfight so much better for me
very fair, all he does in the first phas is that jump thingy which i can do 4 hits garunteed and then the second phase scream withought bells can make it possible to do 2 sikspears and a hit im pretty sure and then he is rlly low
Almost everyone answered Bell Beast
this is a bit true, i agree with you
And I thought that it will be Lace or something in act 1
im the only person who said otherwise
but the good thing is you can pet the bell beast whenever we want
i said fourth chorus-
bell beast is the first real boss i cant call it a skill check cuz theres nothing its checking
nevermind blebbles also said widow and ancientgaming also said moorwing
btw is 51 hrs for 100% + lost lace like slow cuz it feels slow asf
the afterimage boss that i did nothing but stand still and mash heavy attack at was definitely a skill check
What about sister splinter?
what
too easy
she was a nightmare
sorry that's another metroidvania
who was it again
2 sides of a man
i don't even remember
you understand the afterimage mindset
it was the thing in the purple goop in the ghost town
ofcourse lace i saying too easy
wtf theres another boss in the area?
i can't imagine why you would forget about that it was so memorable
||i remember loss the galefeathers being in emerald falls, around double jump||
I stuck at the longest with Fourth Chorus, Sister Splinter, and Moorwing until I managed to get good
||crystallized wolf was before the ray thing isnt it||
i got stuck at sister splinter and moor wing, sister i beat in like 6 tries but moorwing i gave up and used garmond to beat for me
Why do I feel like some act 2 bosses are much easier than act 1 bosses?
at the very least i hope you have fun with the true ending 1 final boss
silksong and hollow knight have a bad habit of getting easier as the game continues
idk all bosses were mid diff in act 2
Or is it because we have got good with the skills and tools?
its the only boss i felt like replaying
i disagree, after gettign dream nail hk became way harder
felt like what one of the other metroidvania bosses i really like SHOULVE been
hornet 1 took me longer than nkg, pure vessel and absolute radiance put together
not as a diss theyre both great
dude i would do anything to fight as shade lord
wtf
wtf would we even do
pet radiance
i hate the shade lord
i hope so too
i know you said not to expect much but like damn
you did that
i personally think theyre innoffensive
i wouldnt call any of them bad they just dont really exist
i mean yeah
also in the true ending of skong we see the knight at the end so that means the radiance killing ending was cannon?
but that also means theyre not good
of the two radiance killing ones both are likely
Dream no more and embrace the void?
yea i think
there r like 5 endings bro, even mr mushroom ending is cannon atp
dream no more and embrace the void are possible
but i hate embrace the void so i hope it's dream no more
i dont think the black egg ones are likely canon are they
i forgor the names of them i just know hat happens lol
they might be as after beating gms we dont see the knight so he might be in the egg afterall
I hate you, so i hope it's gonna be embrace the void

the black egg ones are like pretty strictly not canon
see this is why LeonHK is the goat
i dont liek them anywas
no offense to lace ofc
That's silkcism
i also hate me, we should be friends
eva bossfight when
Not all silk beings are the same
very much offense to lace, took me 15 tries to beat lace 2, but lsot lace took me like 4 tries
embrace the void is kind of just a whatever ending
dream no more is pretty beautiful
someone said earlier that the knight purposely destroyed the black egg in dream no more so hornet wouldn't be trapped, is that true
yep
it's honestly up there with my other favorites
lacism
in games
Dream No More is great
no evidence i would say
Embrace the Void is kinda 😴 as an ending like I don't gaf about godseemer man
yeah
godseeker is the only part of godhome i like because she's a funny cringey fangirl
but the absrad fight ending was lowkey aura
everything else is ajdbcshcksjdvnlmfv
Yea if only the fight itself was good too
team cherry don't make pantheon of pharloom give an alternate ending to sister of the void and my life is yours
i mean ur right but i practiced normla radiance on radiant fo rlike 2 hrs so i didint have much issues i beat P5 in like 2 hrs
YES PLEASE
sea of sorry gonna be peak
Hornet become the Weaver queen from the silk of GMS and save Pharloom alongside with Lace ahh ending
sorrow*
ughhhh
still no matter what they do i really, really doubt they could screw it up more than hk godhome
i would like to see what abilites she gets after being the weaver queen tho, too intruiging
team cherry please add an alternate act 3 🙏
If the final boss is anything but Lost Lace or some GMS variant I will kill someone
Grandfather Groal
lol

as much as i love lace i don't want her to be the final boss of the pantheon
absolute gms would be fine
As long as she's done well and not like absrad, yes
prime gms or prime first sinner for final boss‼️
hk godhome is so awful that no matter what sk does i sincerely doubt it'll be as bad as hk godhome
i'd like a weaver dlc but tc hates weavers so
Shade Lord fight would make me kill myself
it should be something wholly unique or upgraded gms
awakened gms PLEASE
shadelord
i'd rather shade lord didn't appear but if they do it has to be a bossfight
The three Pinstress sisters at once
based
Along with Shakra and her master
what did i do to deserve this hate
Kill people
silksong handles void better than hollow knight did
No floor groal
yay balf life 2 time
bad takes on literally everything...
a void given focus boss literally would not happen unless they decide to further screw with TK/the void/shade lord/voidheart lore again
fighting a boss ALONGSIDE it would be... fine, i guess but still
lace what do you think of lacelight
beautiful idea i love lace being a protagonist
boom, good take
grrrr
I'm flip flopping ngl
lace beating tf out of lifeblood god
dont know for sure? or or is there another meaning to flip flopping
i kinda wanna see the twisted child in silkhome
man these rosary string prices sure are bad huh
silksong becomes a multiverse
Welcome to inflation
They're pretty useless anyways
Or is it capitalism?
I'm unsure so I keep changing lol
@lavish apex blasphemous 2 spoilers
ah
why are blasphemous elevators so much slower than mio elevators
are they?
why is there no miasmic lance in blasphemous :(
better than hk
I hate to say it but I agree
i fucking HATE silksong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hk wins just a bit in vibe tho imo
worse than hk but fantastic and deserving of almost every ounce of praise it gets
green prince having a male partner was not on my silksong bingo card
also that is NOT a bad thing
I like it more personally but I think people will like it more once it gets dlc to bring it up to hk
my preference for hk is shrinking a little bit though
We've all been here for awhile lol I bet you're safe to spoil now
fair, i dont want to take any chances tho 😭
this channel allows spoilers youre fine
what silksong bosses do you not want to be in the final pantheon
oh ok nvm
Thats how it went for me too
they should add markoth to silksong
I want all the smoke
Lace 1
after my first run of silksong frankly it wasn't close for me but the patches and my replays have been steadily improving my opinion of it
they should have lace 1 but at like half health phantom also drops in and then we get the inevitable lace/phantom duo fight
and now it is
lace 1 at half health dies in like one spell
who balanced this game bro
idk about this duo
it seems unbalanced given how much more importance lace has
it's like a hollow knight and broken vessel duo bossfight
i hate the greenpath vessel
phantom deserves a godhome upgrade
okay well, youre not wrong but lace and phantom's moveset would work much better for a duo fight than thk & bv
how come
What are your predictions for pantheon exclusive bosses? Besides Vespa, that one's basically guaranteed...
gms upgrade feels like a shoein
shakra's master, prime phantom, absolute grand mother silk, THREE cogwork clappers
pale stag no floor
seamstress could work
also winged skull tyrant
double beastfly because team cherry loves to fuck with us
hk nails the melancholic feel
maybe harder versions of the old hearts?
Heh. get it. Nail. that was unintentional
i don't know why this is necessary
funny
it feels unnatural, the way we fight them is already their prime
yeah all of them are easy but so is the entire game
Doubt
For the reasons lace said
GUYS I GOT TWISTED CHILD 
water it twice a day but not when it rains
I wouldn’t be suprised if we get a trobbio 3
Dude is there anything else in bellhart or is this all
ok hear me out
and use nitrogen rich fertiliser
For the pantheon
Because I can't find this bell
Wdym
to raise your new twisted child
Cool
something niche that i slightly dislike, switching weapons removes all of the bars you built up
this would be fun
I thought I needed sinners road spent like 3 hours there ran around bilewater nothing there spent like 30 mins searching bellhart nothing there
makes switching feel a bit discouraged
that's fair
What are you looking for???
The bellhart bell
The entrance is through Shellwood
I don't know here window is at
Also ya you enter via shellwood
window left the server a while ago
i know everyone hates my roguelike pantheon idea but itd be cool
Wait fr?
I BEEN SAYING ROGUELITE PANTHEONS!!!!
nya
Yeah if the vibes werent so incredible I wouldnt have been as excited for silksong. Prob my top 2 games of all time
There's no open spots on the shellwood map either that would indicate any sort of passage
Nope just go hit random walls on the right side of shellwood
destinyyy haiaiaiai
Holaaa carol
no i came up with it 😡 all this means is that you understand elite ball knowledge hto
hruuu
roguelite pantheons could be cool
Doing fine hbuuuu
tired
yeah he was gone for a year, briefly returned for silksong release, and then hasnt been seen since
Can we not with the random breakable walls it makes you run would pointlessly for hours for no reason it's so annoying just to find out it's a fucking wall your meant to break
what does roguelite mean
grace reference
Damn...
is that like putting all the bosses out on a map you have to traverse to fight them
and if you die you restart the entire thing
Uhhh
like one boss per room
Yes but with meta progression
roguelite means permadeath (or like you have to completely restart a run) but with persistent upgrades
roguelike just means permadeath
Basically you run through a playthrough and if you die you reset but you can get permanent upgrades to help
so after sister splinter, you get wall climb, after widow, you get needolin?
start with 0 masks, spool extenders, needle upgrades, or abilities
each run you select a random path through the game, fighting through random chosen earlygame bosses and selecting random pickups to progress your upgrades
this means that every run through the pantheon will be different and itll bring difficulty to earlygame bosses while allowing you to skip bosses like zango, palestag, and voltvyrmm
strategically select the route and the upgrades you wanna get until you max yourself out and reach the final bosses
my idea of a roguelite/like pantheon is random bosses and gauntlets and you start with all your movement abilities and a crest and have to unlock tools/silk skills
this is a great idea of including all the garbage bosses without the player being forced to fight them
I think it would be better if you got certain movement abilities at certain points in the pantheon
also adds decision making into it and allows for super unique builts
so cute
clawline before dash for example, or picking what best fits your playstyle
However after you get the movement ability the boss pool changes
like some people may rush masks as soon as they see them
let stuff scale above what you can get normally too
that could be interesting
Damn silksong roguelite really does sound hella fun
Why can lace climb the wall that’s actually unfair
she's lace
And people talking about nerfing stuff for hornet
I mean you can do it so
She just said “alr bet”
A child with no experience vs an experienced hunter that’s centuries old
poph will be less about "can you beat every boss in a row" and more about "how far can you get" and stuff
Imagine lace with any actual training
radiant instead of making boss one shot you it removes the floor
lace has been killing people for just as long as hornet
Because she has absolutely zero formal training
itll still be about can you beat a run but for more people its like how far into the run can you get
but yeah as far as we know no one trained her
so it's a wonder how she's a decent fencer
all her experience in "fighting" is killing defenceless pilgrims
Phantom and her both learned counters by themselves
and citadel soldiers but they're weak
Actually how in the WORLD did phantom learn to fight?
no idea
i honestly think i could take groal on a fight
She was banished to exhaust organ
@lavish apex are these the babies ive been collecting throughout the game
BLASPHEMOUS 2 SPOILERS
they're bugs you could take all of them
yk what i think
yes
we dont gotta think logically
maybe not at the same time though
first sinner could neg diff all of the hollow knight server
why is this baby so big
cz shes so angry shes gonna get it cancled
Her true sin
a singular skarr scout vs all of hallownest
Getting the entire server deleted
yep
what is he, some kind of boss baby?
Ima be real
Jesus fucking Christ widow holy hell
I feel like one of those huge skarrs that Karmelita summons right before you fight her
Will we get Kingdom Hearts 4 this year?
Could almost run the entirety of Hollow knight
true
Like what would 99% of hallownest do
Exactly!
A win via the opponent dying before the fight even started
true
I hate how lace can repeat the dash attack
Oh this is kinda fun
100% dead kingdom vs 80% dead kingdom
Like in a row it’s so frustrating
one skull tyrant would absolutely destroy white palace probs
nah the kingsmoulds got that
one skull tyrant and a choir clapper
THAT WAS FUN
yeah that's natural man
her
the pronoun police have arrived
is this dove guy
i thought htat was sephiroth
what the fuck is happening now
imagine...
holy shit gd ref???
which sk bosses do you want out of the final pantheon
O h I died
its a jjk ref
you have oscilated between he and she for the past like
LMAO I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER THATS SO FUNNY
one week
?
yes lol
im so confused
tuff
Like bosses just not in it or what bosses do you want to see in it
i think im just settling on genderfluid atp 😭
does this mean every gender at once
for me the main ones are pale stag, zango, moss mothers, voltvyrm and garmond and zaza
Oh ok not in it
you fool! i have unleashed 100% of my potential and i am ALL genders at once!!!
Zango and bell eater
Everyone is gay now just like me get with the times
pale stag will have no floor
Pale stag in the Nyleth arena
i KNOW pale stag will have no floor it absoloutely wont
However made 3x wider
Anyways I really hope we get lace 2 + phantom
nah
pale stag with no floor would be fun assuming theres no platforms either
exactly
maybe pale stag will be an actually fuckin fun boss
are you serious
are you joking
its because you can pogo tthe blades
No walls either just turn pale stag into flea bounce on steroids
oh
itd be really fun
hehehehe
dont drink the water they put sumthing innit to make ya forget
that is dove guy
and dove guy is shulk right
yea
his actual name is the witness
anyways if you were worried about being done around this point don't be
Yeah, you can infact hear the bay in Weavenest Murglin, disabled the waterfall sfx for this though
yea theres definitely a lot more i think
is widow still fun with all upgrades
is her moveset still fun
i found out the second stage was easier if you hug her
everything is easier if you hug them
i mean yeah i don't think clawline or faydown would really damage the fight at all mechanically
TOOO THE CITADEL
atlaest its not shaded
im in a roblxo vc with heavily intoxicated strangers help
why is there completely untelegraphed hidden walls in blasphemous lol
didnt expect that
they are usually telegraphed just in a different way from how most games do it
that said i don't like them very much
idk some of them are like with hidden black glow/fade but theres some which i just accidentally find
idk how many arent shown on the map
I thought there was an act 3
does he know?
nope it was all a silkpost
But I’m fighting grandmother silk is she not the final boss?
she is
go through the pale palace just not with the buzzsaws thats how you access it
she can be
can this game just give me a triple jump already
maybe
maybe i should stop backtracking and explore new stuff
maybe
i cried when Horjnet said
"That is bullsilk Silking. In my Song im Silking"
guilty gear silk
It's difficult to get my friends to play 9S because it is very expensive
This is saddening
me waiting for a switch sale
the last one was about 3 months ago and they seem to happen about every 3 months so perhaps Soonge
on the other hand outer wilds is on sale now
how the FUCK did they make silksong runbacks worse than the original
who the hell made this fuckass runback for the last judge
i don't think they are
last judge runback is very quick and fun if you know the good route
experiment a little bit
last judge runback was 2x as hard release patch
literally all they did was get rid of one driznit?
How do I get the upwards version of clawline?
i honestly dont really remeber runbacks in hk tthough tbh, maybe nosk...
hive knight and soul master both had miserable ones
soul master fair forgot, hive knight i forgot because dream gate go brrr
hive knight is like half of the entire area at best
without dream gate
that's fair actually silksong doesn't have it
was traitor lord's runback bad i don't remember it
i insisted on using sharp shadow for traitor lord so the parkour was bad
i have no idea because going through that would require dying to traitor lord
i wish there was a real dream gate in silksong
THIS
Hitting the mr mushroom vape
god I forgot to grab something at the end of putrid ducts today and I swear my soul left my body when I had to backtrack
Would’ve been a neat feature with the beastlings
They’ll probably add something adjacent in an update
was dream gate a dlc thin
hidden dreams
act 3 is just too short for beastling call to feel impactful
and you can't set a custom spot
and it doesn't make sense
good thing theres gonna be more act 3 content in dlc probs
Hello gang
herllo grover
I hope the DLC has bosses which are as hard or harder than Act 3 bosses
I mean that's been the case for a while but the official account followed me on Twitter
I love giantesses
I just died in Act 3 in Steel Soul. That's enough Silksong for a month.
That's rough what did you die to
Probably void gauntlet
OH holy shit thats kinda crazy
probably, that sounds crazy
It's because I'm the only motherfucker in the world drawing fanart 😭
Honestly, myself. Was doing the Alchemist quest, trying to hit those lifeblood worms with the phile. But then got combo'd that both shattered my protective mask and killed me
bass da da da da da
This is the most hype moments and aura you can get for a story that absolutely does not lend itself to hype moments and aura
the pixel art mixed with the normal painting is cool
why is she so real and the other so pixelated
In reality the whole game is pixel art but the two halves are rendered in different art styles, so I think this is an interesting way to approximate that
Also probably representative of the imbalance of agency
damn
im confused about how blasphemous's map works in the 3rd world
Don't think too hard about it
this area is metroidvania hell
Oh I thought you meant in 3D
why is the map so map
