sk-discussion

[subtle lynx]

Omg Arthur Morgan

I'm your biggest fan

[high zinc]

hey boah

[subtle lynx]

You said it!

[high zinc]

dont let me cough on ya

[rose flax]

well u dont even get soul when hurting the collector

[subtle lynx]

Idc Arthur

[rose flax]

snail shamans can literally use soul tho

[subtle lynx]

You're my goat

I'm literally playing with you rn

Dw, you haven't gotten tuberculosis yet

[high zinc]

phrasing

[rose flax]

ummm

[rose flax]

why the fuck is ur entire description redacted

[high zinc]

bro is NOT the stein

[normal bramble]

I FOUND THE PHANTOM TROUPE

Finally the one thing that I’ve heard people telling me clears anything boss in silksong

[charred tiger]

phantom is peak

concept design gameplay

the concept of the gameplay

the lore

[rocky jolt]

https://x.com/i/status/2041574373878804979

Mint Prince (@mintgayprince)

X · Apr 7, 2026, 5:50 PM

[charred tiger]

all peak

[charred tiger]

what

[minor plank]

Yo guys

[charred tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-card-nop-no-gif-16105887446508714626

[minor plank]

I discovered something in sk

[charred tiger]

?

lemme guess

you can dash downwards

[minor plank]

If you’re wearing the weighted belt and you dash down I goes significantly faster than without it

Kind of close lol

[charred tiger]

close enough

[charred tiger]

but does it deal damages

[minor plank]

No?

Why would it?

[charred tiger]

heavy

[minor plank]

Ah

[charred tiger]

imagine an heavy spider falling on you

[minor plank]

No it’s just a lot faster lol

[minor plank]

As someone without arachnophobia I’d be perfectly fine

[charred tiger]

kitty jumpscare

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/442709792839172099/1138359855074254909/togif-5.gif

[charred tiger]

200 kilogramz

[minor plank]

Cute cat

[charred tiger]

ikr

[wind mulch]

spiders get less scary the bigger they are

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/transmit-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-transmit-this-bunny-slow-loading-transmitting-fakeout-gif-532479633164265025

[charred tiger]

until they reach 50cm

[wind mulch]

actually no thats not true at all

they get less scary like tje fatter they are

[minor plank]

False

[wind mulch]

tarantulas aren't scary to me at all but im genuinely petrified of daddy long legs

[minor plank]

Imagine a spider the size of you running towards you full speed

[graceful cairn]

true

[graceful oyster]

[wind mulch]

well i think uve taken us to a bit of a logical extreme here

[orchid spruce]

[charred tiger]

i don't really have aracnophobia but if a 10 cm diameter spider started running towards me i'd be extremely scared

[graceful cairn]

I saw a tarantula on a walk a few years ago

just walking on the edge of the road

[wind mulch]

i love tarantulas

[orchid spruce]

how's nine sols on your favourite games list

[charred tiger]

that's just greg he's chill like that

[rocky jolt]

two sols

[charred tiger]

"will play it someday"

[graceful oyster]

It's hard to say without succumbing to recency, but definitely top 10, maybe 5

[minor plank]

I might try mine sols

[orchid spruce]

[minor plank]

Seems fun

[graceful oyster]

I really really like fighting nog

[charred tiger]

who's nog

[graceful oyster]

I woke up this morning and the first thing I wanted to do was attempt hitless

[graceful oyster]

Eggnog

[charred tiger]

nightmare oking grimm

[orchid spruce]

🔥🔥🔥🥹

[charred tiger]

who

[graceful oyster]

Eggnog

[charred tiger]

who

[orchid spruce]

🥚

[minor plank]

Egg nog is high key the best beverage oat

[ionic stump]

Tf is happening?

[charred tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/asdfmovie-egg-stop-turning-people-into-egg-gif-6990443989628565414

[graceful oyster]

Horchata contends

[charred tiger]

?

[orchid spruce]

it's slang for possibly the best metroidvania boss

[minor plank]

Not better but still pretty good

[charred tiger]

hm

[orchid spruce]

[graceful oyster]

Eggnog is great but it's too heavy

You can't drink a giant glass of it

I can drink a giant glass of iced horchata though

[charred tiger]

[charred tiger]

i know people who could drink i giant glass of eggs

[graceful oyster]

Gross

[vast grove]

yum

[raw pawn]

love ending the fight with a clawline lol

[trim basalt]

@exotic dome really? I didnt notice.

[rotund gate]

Evil clawline

[slender juniper]

That's not how physics work

Heavy objects fall the same as light objects

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/boXq3.gif

[steep jolt]

ts hollow knight bro the void exists soul exists

[graceful oyster]

This is Silksong we're talking about

[steep jolt]

say that again

[slender juniper]

Smh TC go back to school

💔

[graceful oyster]

In a vacuum*

[slender juniper]

False

[graceful oyster]

Sure

[leaden delta]

it assumes no air resistance right

[slender juniper]

You're wrong I'm right

[leaden delta]

but I don’t think weighted belt would change her aerodynamics that much right

[rocky jolt]

i crew

[minor plank]

It’s how the game works though

Found it out last night

[quartz gulch]

Yes.

[minor plank]

I can genuinely drink as much egg nog as I want

Like

The whole carton within an hour

[graceful oyster]

Fat

[minor plank]

Ik lol

It’s so good though

[proud plume]

whats best way to defeat craw father

[quartz gulch]

Well I'll spoiler that (Act4 spoilers incomming). I've got standards, even if they're low.

[minor plank]

By killing him

[crisp heron]

holy guacamole

[proud plume]

GIT GUD

[exotic dome]

use clawline when dealing with adds,

and uhh

idk

[chilly glacier]

hey wasn't there a thing where you could hold up, or down, to hover instead of jump?

[proud plume]

silk shot polip good?

weaver silkshot

[exotic dome]

silkshot is good but pollip is useless

[minor plank]

I love silkshot so much

It’s actually my favourite

[proud plume]

then what should i use blue tool in

[quartz gulch]

Pollip Pouch

[proud plume]

alr

cross stich good

[minor plank]

Pollip pouch isn’t bad

[quartz gulch]

As long as you don't spam it can help with additional damage, hence not using up as much of your tools. Only if you strategically use them though, with spamming it sucks. Then you'd use ||Quicksling||.

[delicate temple]

I suck at using witch crest because the range on bind is weirdly small

[quartz gulch]

It's about the same length as Claw Mirror, so use it to practice if you want. Especially good with Multibinder too (and Injector band imo). Warding Bell also has a buff on Witch crest.

[minor plank]

I want to like the witch crest so bad

[delicate temple]

I don’t have claw mirror

[minor plank]

It’s just is insanely hard to use

But the skill ceiling is so high

[exotic dome]

it doesn't do that much damage as you think

i'd pick better tools

[minor plank]

I don’t use it personally

But I guess that does make sense

[quartz gulch]

How do you have Witch before having Vaultkeeper's melody?

[still osprey]

I'm gonna hold you hand when I say this...

[delicate temple]

Because you can do the quest before it

[exotic dome]

pollip pouch is the definition of placebo effect

[quartz gulch]

Still free, passive damage, which is good if you don't spam.

[minor plank]

Hold you hand😭😭

[still osprey]

Pollip is the worst blue tool in the game

[minor plank]

Strange

I thought it was a lot better

It seems like a quality of life tool which I love, those are my favourite tools

[exotic dome]

circlet is also free damage and more reliable even for new players. i'd prefer that

[quartz gulch]

I know, but usually it is smarter to gear up first. Especially since Witch draws most its uses from specific tools. Those being:
-Multibinder
-Clawmirror SPOILER||(s)||
-Warding Bell

[minor plank]

I hate circlet

The gameplay sucks imo

And that’s what I care about

[exotic dome]

opinion is opinion but it's one of the most effective tools

best imo

[still osprey]

• 2 ticks of 3 damage at most (+6 damage) (1 needle swing with no upgrades deals 5 damage)
• Poison gets cancelled if a new instance gets applied before the previous one ends (makes it extremely bad on normally great tools like tacks, sting shard, etc.)
• poison gets cancelled if the enemy teleports or disappears for even a second
• Literal anti-synergies with Flintslate and Plasmium Phial

[minor plank]

I know it’s like the best tool in the game

Just not my preference for gp

At all

[quartz gulch]

Circlet is good, but it has drawbacks. You can't be as precise, both in platforming and in combat, as it has knockback. And while it melts bosses like Savage Beastfly, often enough you have to adapt to the boss with different tools. Pollip is earlier game too, though I don't have it on my current achievement save (unlike Sawtooth).

[exotic dome]

fair enough

[minor plank]

I also don’t like using tools that can cheese bosses

[exotic dome]

true it sucks for platforming

[still osprey]

Oh also some enemies and bosses are just immune to the poison just for fun lol

[minor plank]

I just want to fight them normally

[quartz gulch]

Still good though, since it allows me to slowly kill regular enemies without wasting all my tools. Such as the fatass Drapemites that spawn in tight corners when I'm on three masks.

[still osprey]

Sister Splinter, The Unravelled, and Ministers are immune to poison, just as a few examples

[quartz gulch]

Tf is a minister?

[minor plank]

It’s passive though, and I like that

[still osprey]

The guys with the parry in High Halls

[quartz gulch]

A, I thought they were priests.

[minor plank]

It’s just a quality of life increase

[quartz gulch]

Just like the Ascendants Grip or the compass (or even rosary magnet).

[still osprey]

At that point just use Wispfire Lantern it deals 17 damage when a wisp hits an enemy and inflicts burning on them

Better than pollip's 6 damage ever will be

[exotic dome]

not for fun, sister splinter is the local of shellwood, the unravelled is just a husk of corpses, idk about the third one

[candid kayak]

pollip does 2 ticks of 1/1/2/2/3 (depending on craft kit level) damage with a delay, it doesn't stack AND if you reapply the effect then the delay actually resets, meaning if you were to rapid-fire poison tools at an enemy, the poison damage never actually triggers

[quartz gulch]

It wastes silk, making it bad by default, since it hinders regular gameplay. Pollip does that for three tools, all of which shouldn't need it anyway.

[quartz gulch]

So just don't spam? Still free damage.

[candid kayak]

0-6 damage with max upgrades is kinda bad

[minor plank]

Wispfire sucks

The less silk really sucks in some situations

[still osprey]

I don't think you understand just how bad 6 damage is

[candid kayak]

the tools are already dealing significantly more damage on their own

[still osprey]

Your max needle deals 21

[candid kayak]

INSTANTLY

[exotic dome]

wtf

[quartz gulch]

Ministers are mostly just rotting corpses, as seen by the ones decaying in the water. Also what the other guy said.

[candid kayak]

this is literally tool hit, 3 poison, 3 poison

[quartz gulch]

I use them one at a time and it helps me kill things from a distance without wasting half my tools.

[candid kayak]

if you land another hit any posion that didn't trigger is wasted

[still osprey]

I promise you, it does not help

[candid kayak]

believe me it's not helping you

[still osprey]

6 damage is nothing

Especially when you also take into account damage modifiers

[candid kayak]

it is like

1% more dps at best

[still osprey]

Just use your needle and you already deal x3 damage pollip pouch did

Instantly

Or even better, just use Quick Sling man it actually does something

[candid kayak]

fun fact: pollip pouch actually DEBUFFS flintslate

[quartz gulch]

I differ in my opinion, as I don't spam tools. Either way, let people have fun. You can explain drawbacks and such, but don't tell them the tools is useless, as it isn't.

[still osprey]

It is tho 😭

[candid kayak]

it reduces the damage bonus from 50% to 30%, and REMOVES the burn effect in favor of posion (the burn is stronger)

[still osprey]

Like use it if you want but it literally is useless

[quartz gulch]

It engages cheesing and overall dirty spamming of tools.

[candid kayak]

it really is useless though

[quartz gulch]

Sure thing! Definitely! Less than trash!

[candid kayak]

you may think that every hiss sound you hear is a tick of damage

you are wrong

[quartz gulch]

(I don't even use it, I'm just saying it isn't that bad compared to other things)

[candid kayak]

it... unfortunately is

[still osprey]

No it definitely is

[quartz gulch]

I know that it's two not three.

[candid kayak]

no, the hiss sounds are not tied to the damage

[minor plank]

I would definitely rather pollip than a lot of things

[quartz gulch]

Yeah? So?

[normal bramble]

Wispfire lantern is 200x better then pollip pouch

[minor plank]

Just because of my play style

[candid kayak]

the posion damage isn't triggering

[terse cloak]

isnt there like... an upgraded version of pollip pouch or am i dumb?

[normal bramble]

Lantern will do more consistent easier to inflict damage while also JUST doing more

[still osprey]

Nope

[candid kayak]

nope

[quartz gulch]

Please stop talking shit, this isn't even comparable when they do entirely different things.

[normal bramble]

They both take up a blue slot and suck

[quartz gulch]

It seems to be the latter.

[terse cloak]

ah, shucks

[candid kayak]

there's upgrades to claw mirror, druid's eye and curveclaw

[still osprey]

I mean, it's comparing the 2 worst blue tools against eachother

[exotic dome]

i was so happy when i was using poison tacks in gauntlets and thinking it actually does damage in my first playthrough..

[still osprey]

It's not like we're comparing a blue and a yellow tool

[normal bramble]

Yuh

[quartz gulch]

Which do you get first? Prolly not wisp.

[normal bramble]

They’re competing for the exact same slot

[still osprey]

You can get Druid's Eye earlier than pollip pouch and I would rather run that

[normal bramble]

By that logic let’s start glazing Druid eye because you get it instantly

And it’s better

[candid kayak]

free silk

[terse cloak]

chat, im preparing to get pregnant(in game, hornet infection style)

[quartz gulch]

Morally Quicksling is worst imo, in addition to the lack of control it gives me over my tools. I use neither, I'll always carry Injector Band my beloved.

[magic narwhal]

Currently my second best steel soul attempt

[candid kayak]

gets pregnant on purpose only to immediately get an abortion
what the hell man

[normal bramble]

How is quicksling the worst it lets you borderline double you dps with tools

[magic narwhal]

Just finished Putrified, working on Longclaw and some nail upgrades

[terse cloak]

lol haha

[normal bramble]

It makes spamming them out with architect just that much quicker

Meaning you can get more value from your craft binds

[candid kayak]

quicksling is not my thing personally but I get it

[quartz gulch]

So you are saying:
Nothing or Druids Eye

-> Nothing because druids eye is bad (I misspelled)

???
I'm just saying that it doesn't do nothing

[normal bramble]

(Not like any enemy ever needs more then 1-2 craft binds)

[candid kayak]

it lets you shit out your tools QUICKER

[terse cloak]

mm thats gotta hurr

[candid kayak]

reminder that the average architect crest gif shows them killing nyleth with 2 tool types and no craft binds, meaning you can do that with ANY crest lmfao

[normal bramble]

No what I’m saying is “oh you get pollip early” isn’t a defense for how bad it is

[quartz gulch]

Just manually spam?

[candid kayak]

I like spacing out my tools but pollip is just a disappointment I'm sorry

[still osprey]

You know another tool you can get early? Multibinder

[normal bramble]

Well you have the animation each time you throw a tool out

[candid kayak]

I can't spell :(

[normal bramble]

Espically for stuff like voltvessels

[candid kayak]

awesome tool

[still osprey]

Quick Sling throws them much faster than pressing the button twice

[candid kayak]

quick sling lets you spend tools quicker

[normal bramble]

2x as quick

[terse cloak]

neither can i, lets kiss(/platonic)

[quartz gulch]

I think it should be buffed, but it isn't worse than some other things. How the actual fuck are you guys NOT shitting on Pintress Badge??? Literally unnoticable difference in speed, obatined when it's useless (needle strikes are useless when you one-hit enemies anyway), and a waste of a blue slot.

[candid kayak]

again, not my style, I don't enjoy spamming tools, but I understand it

[normal bramble]

Which means you can get broke on shell shards 2x as quick 🔥

[minor plank]

Real

[still osprey]

Pin Badge is good tf you mean 😭

[normal bramble]

Pin badge is ALOT quicker?

[candid kayak]

greatly reduces charge time

[slim thorn]

You can always use instead of spells

[exotic dome]

lantern and memory crystal are worse than pollip imo

[terse cloak]

no hype for compass tool? smh

[normal bramble]

Also witch Charge is the 2nd highest attack in the game

[candid kayak]

TRUE

[still osprey]

It's not INSANE but like it's a fine tool

[minor plank]

Barely anyone even uses heavy strikes in the first place

[normal bramble]

Pin badge on witch is actually pretty damn good

[candid kayak]

pollip should get a buff though

[still osprey]

Sure you get it too late but as we've established, this isn't a factor worth taking into account

[candid kayak]

at the very least let it stack or just not RESET the damage delay

[tight viper]

Pin Badge takes the charge time from 1.35 seconds to .8 seconds, that's pretty significant

[still osprey]

If you don't know how to use needle strikes and don't like pin badge cuz of it, that's on you

[normal bramble]

The real problem with pin badge is that you that you get it AT THE END OF THE GAMEEEE

[minor plank]

Just give us sea of sorrow

[slim thorn]

Hornet tries to get rid of leftover parasite with centrifugal force

[normal bramble]

If you could get it like right after getting needle strike

[exotic dome]

pin badge needs a buff because nail arts are less flexible than hks

[normal bramble]

It would be pretty nice

[quartz gulch]

I use needle strikes VERY frequently and I never noticed a difference like with nail arts. Prolly cause nail arts take longer by default, but I just don't get it.
It should be buffed to do more damage and change the needle strikes to this:

[still osprey]

Actually I'm curious, what are the numbers on Nailmaster's Glory?

[exotic dome]

and pin badge is more expensive than nailmasters glory

[normal bramble]

Hollow knight nail Arts are actually amazing

I only have 2 of them so far but I’ve found them so useful

[terse cloak]

hollow knight itself is amazing

[tight viper]

1.35 to .75 seconds

[candid kayak]

boosting or altering needle arts would be cool

[quartz gulch]

What do you think of more damage and the attack in the image above?

[candid kayak]

rather than just reducing the charge time

[normal bramble]

I’ve preferred silksong in most aspects

[still osprey]

Interesting, they're actually not the exact same?

[normal bramble]

However hollow knight does have some things I’ll give it over le song

[quartz gulch]

They should've made it literally instant, like it felt in HK.

[candid kayak]

charge time never really matters on the charged attacks since like

[tight viper]

no clue why they're different

[still osprey]

0.05s difference btw

[candid kayak]

no matter what it's less DPS than just regular attacks

[normal bramble]

Charge attacks being the #1 thing

[still osprey]

Needle Strikes are best against enemy gauntlets

[normal bramble]

Maybe each crest should have charge attack variants like you have in HK

[candid kayak]

you use charge attacks for a prepared heavy hit after not being able to land a hit before

[still osprey]

Charging one up before the next wave spawns to get a burst of damage instantly

[exotic dome]

good idea also it looks sick asf. it could also be just a 20-30% damage buff

[candid kayak]

so BOOSTING that would be much more useful I think

[quartz gulch]

For HK or for Silksong? In Hollow Knight it actually makes a difference, while in Silksong it is already fine as is. Pintress Badge should buff the damage for everything and make the attack crossed as seen in the cut content image above.

[normal bramble]

You barely have enough time to get one charged in khann gauntlets between waves

[candid kayak]

rather than trying to make it pretend like it's for DPS when it's not

[normal bramble]

Without pin badge

With pin badge you can get it safely off

[quartz gulch]

Maybe no charge time improve but 150% needle damage.

[normal bramble]

Imo that’s a solid pin badge upscale

[quartz gulch]

I beg to differ.

I also did Khan pre Pintress

[exotic dome]

buffed pin badge
40% faster charge
20% more damage

[still osprey]

I atill wouldn't run it over the big 3 but I don't think Pin Badge is bad at all

[lucid forum]

honestly i use more charged attacks on SK than i did on the entirety of HK

not only it's just one rather than three but it kinda feels like it's doing more

[exotic dome]

it's above average imo

[lucid forum]

it being different depending on the crest is a neat thing to have

[normal bramble]

You have a very small amount of time to spare

[quartz gulch]

See? Charge it BEFORE they spawn in.

Easily fixed.

[still osprey]

There isn't really any tool I would consider bad except like, Needle Phial, Pollip Pouch and Spider Strings. The rest are average at least

[normal bramble]

Literally what I did

The POINT of what I’m saying is pinbadge allows you more time to reposition for it

Well you could move while charging it but that’s annoying af on console

[quartz gulch]

So what you are saying is that I am right in a sense. I've got to say, I do prefer the way the attacks are handled with crests.

[normal bramble]

Trying to do any sort of real movement while holding down Y is awful

[fiery burrow]

is the movement stick not the left one

[normal bramble]

Yes but jump is B

[quartz gulch]

I disagree, it's just skill. Talking from personal experience where I learned to do it properly.

[tight viper]

I'm saying that they are damn near identical, you said HK was literally instant while SK was not literally instant

[normal bramble]

So trying to jump without accidentally releasing charge

[candid kayak]

worse by 0.05s I can't believe this

[still osprey]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they were meant to be the exact same but Team Cherry code fucked up and made Needle Strike 0.05s slower

[normal bramble]

Is so annoying

[potent vessel]

this is why kb and mouse is better 😋

[fiery burrow]

Oh yeah you got to use the same finger for both

[normal bramble]

Yup

[candid kayak]

use the MIDDLE of your thumb for the other buttons

[still osprey]

I tried playing Silksong with a controller once

[quartz gulch]

I agree that it is better than without. I love Injector Band for example. But you can charge at the same time as having taken the last hit, so just constantly having the button pressed down.

[still osprey]

Took me 40 minutes to reach Lace 1 🎉

[candid kayak]

press tip of thumb to attack or whatever, flatten thumb to jump

[normal bramble]

I reflexively lift the front of my thumb while doing that

[exotic dome]

i play with controller

[candid kayak]

pain

[normal bramble]

Bleh

[quartz gulch]

0.05 seconds difference, and I was referring to how it felt. I just think that the mobility in Silksong means the charge time isn't as important.

[quartz gulch]

Nintendo? You can also rebind controls btw (I think).

[quartz gulch]

EXACTLY THIS GUY GETS IT

[exotic dome]

exactly

[normal bramble]

I mean yes but what would I rebind

[exotic dome]

i do that when im using narts

[normal bramble]

Basically everything is used except left trigger

And also

[still osprey]

If you actually feel a noticable difference of 0.05s then props to you honestly cuz I do not have that skill 😭

[normal bramble]

Changing jump or needle would mess with every bit of muscle memory I have

[quartz gulch]

Idk. ∆? O? Square?

[normal bramble]

Like that sounds awful

If there was a dedicated needle arts button you could bind

[exotic dome]

rebinding just for nart doesn't seem like a good idea

[normal bramble]

I would just bind it to the map button

[quartz gulch]

Map button? Nevrmind you said already

[still osprey]

Ok question if you play on controller do you move with the dpad or the analog stick

[normal bramble]

And move the map button somewhere absolutely random

[exotic dome]

i use stick

[quartz gulch]

L3

[normal bramble]

Analog stick mfs who play on dpad are smth

[quartz gulch]

I use both

[normal bramble]

I genuinely don’t understand how someone can play on such a rigid grid of buttons for movements for anything

Unless it’s like a fighting game for inputs

[quartz gulch]

Undertale Undyne Green Heart though

[short trout]

Speaking of controls one of my friends is a psycho and he bound the attack key to be a mouse click

[exotic dome]

idk im usually more comfortable with a controller, even though im on pc

[quartz gulch]

That's the taunts usually.

[exotic dome]

bro playing cs

[short trout]

HAHAHAHA

[quartz gulch]

Controllers are just so comfortably formed, unlike a keyboard.

Even ego shooters I prefer controller

[normal bramble]

Nah I play GGST with dpad

Because it’s just easier to do stuff

[quartz gulch]

Idk what GGST is, but I guess....

[potent vessel]

ummm my attack button is mouse click 😭

[normal bramble]

Guilty gear strive

[potent vessel]

haters gonna hate

its very intuitive for me

my dash/sprint is right click btw

[normal bramble]

I used to have my attack bound to right trigger

[potent vessel]

when i play games on controller my attack is normally square

[normal bramble]

But at some point my controls got set back to default

[potent vessel]

or whatever the equivelant that is on non ps controllers

[normal bramble]

And I never bothered changing it back

[short trout]

Ayooo

[trim estuary]

stick because I have an Xbox controller

[potent vessel]

trust me its comfortable

[still osprey]

I want to play silksong but I want to do something new...

[potent vessel]

i even use the side mouse buttons for clawline and needolin

[potent vessel]

try some other metroidvanias maybe

or 2d platformers perhaps

[still osprey]

This implies I have the money to do that

[potent vessel]

💔 rip

ig you just gotta start speedrunning silksong

[shut quartz]

I gotta be honest, the flea games are giving me a harder time than grand mother silk

[potent vessel]

they got pretty hard when i had to beat ||seth's|| scores

[quartz gulch]

Is tools left click? Anyways, gotta go, bye.

[potent vessel]

nah thats e

bye

[proud plume]

guys lost garmond recovers rigth?

[potent vessel]

😔

[still osprey]

Nah he's dead lol

[shut quartz]

We love Seth but man does he kick our asses

[proud plume]

dodge is easy asf

[potent vessel]

flea dodge gave me the most trouble

[normal bramble]

I got an 89 on dodge trying to beat his score.

[shut quartz]

Team Cherry doesn’t want us happy…

[potent vessel]

but then i locked in and beat seths score by 30

[shut quartz]

For me it’s juggle

[normal bramble]

(Then I got 98 so meh)

[proud plume]

for me juggle hard

[potent vessel]

i got 128 tryna beat seth 😭

[shut quartz]

Poggo was easy for me, dodge was hard too

[potent vessel]

i was in a flow state

[normal bramble]

Pogo I went to 138.

[shut quartz]

BUT JUGGLE IS EVILLLL

[still osprey]

Juggle is by far the easiest imo

[grizzled sierra]

sea of sorrow tomorrow for sure guys

[normal bramble]

I got far too locked in

[proud plume]

pogo is easy

[potent vessel]

bounce is the easiest for me

[normal bramble]

Juggle is the worst

[potent vessel]

then juggle then dodge

[normal bramble]

I beat Seth’s score by like 4?

[still osprey]

Dodge is fucked

[normal bramble]

Dodge is fun af

[still osprey]

The thing about Juggle is it's sooooooo boring

[frosty light]

ok MAYBE 9

[potent vessel]

fr bro

[still osprey]

Takes forever

[shut quartz]

Fr

[proud plume]

juggle best is hunter ngl

good hitbox and speed

[potent vessel]

i use architect

[shut quartz]

I’m seeing the best results using shaman rn

[potent vessel]

pretty far reaching upslash

[proud plume]

for dodge is just bullet hell so nothing gonna save ur ass

[shut quartz]

Still I’ve only gotten to 23

[proud plume]

and bounce is just shaman down and floating

[potent vessel]

i like using architect for that asw

the pogo helps with air stalling

[proud plume]

yea

[normal bramble]

I took this run to like 100 after this

[potent vessel]

clutch

[frosty light]

cant wait for sharpe SPECIFICALLY so in enemy randomizers he and his gang can harass you throughout pharloom like they were meant to

[potent vessel]

dlc after sea of sorrow trust me

[frosty light]

i dont know if hed lose or gain points for this if his fight was actually complete garbage

[shut quartz]

I really wanted to see Grimm but I don’t think that’s happening

[frosty light]

silksong will have 14 dlc packs anyway...

[potent vessel]

i doubt it

but it is a possibility

[normal bramble]

I just found him in HK i can’t wait to see his fight

[shut quartz]

It’s very fun

[potent vessel]

the grimm troupe is peak

[shut quartz]

Oh yeah and tip, don’t attack while he’s bowing in the beginning

[potent vessel]

it would be the best dlc if not for godseeker

[quartz roost]

Amazing fight! Have you played any of silksong?

[shut quartz]

He’ll go straight to the balloon attack, which is annoying

[proud plume]

pantheon of Pharloom gonna be fun

[potent vessel]

I HATE THE BALLOON ATTACK RAHH

[shut quartz]

Yaaas

[quartz roost]

But it will probably be the last DLC so we must wait for a while :(

[proud plume]

make god of gods final boss

of phantheon

[potent vessel]

the void entity trust me

or maybe a life blood monster

[shut quartz]

You know what I REALLY want for the dlc? More void and hollownest lore

[quartz roost]

ehhh, the attack isn't good, isn't bad either

[potent vessel]

i only find it annoying because i cant attack if i have no soul

[shut quartz]

Like pleeease I want more Ghost

[potent vessel]

its pretty easy to dodge

[quartz roost]

Knight shade from

[proud plume]

why is void in hk the answer but in sk the menace

[quartz roost]

Fair enough

[shut quartz]

Fr tho

[quartz roost]

HK your made of it, silksong you're not

[fiery burrow]

Team Cherry read a void infection AU and thought it was so good they'd make the entire 3rd act around it

[quartz roost]

And lifeblood

[potent vessel]

some theorists deadass say that hornet is made of void 💔

[quartz roost]

That's just wrong

[potent vessel]

ik

[shut quartz]

Honestly hornet should’ve just ran back to hollownest and got some help from her family. They know much of the void

[frosty light]

➡️⭕⁉️

[potent vessel]

i heard a lot of discourse about it when silksong first released

[shut quartz]

I think it’s centered around life blood

[quartz roost]

What are their points?

[delicate temple]

I need help how tf do I get Shakra’s quest to spawn, I have two melodies, I have Groal killed, yet something is missing

[graceful cairn]

why are you lying

[potent vessel]

they say her body is black and shes related to the knight 💀

[quartz roost]

What family? They are dead

[shut quartz]

Pale lady

[fiery burrow]

Do you got all her maps

[quartz roost]

Do they even read lore?

[potent vessel]

i doubt they even played the games

[shut quartz]

I saw someone say you need to buy everything from her, I bought everything but the markers

[fiery burrow]

Hornet being void is a pretty long running joke not really a sincere theory

[quartz roost]

Probably taken by void or something, she lost her guards

[frosty light]

hornet being void or not was a popular (tho idk how much exactly) talking point for a few years starting from 2017 but it died down as lore interpretations became more homogenous and people actually read her dialogue

[delicate temple]

I have everything bought

[exotic dome]

void is a weaver

[potent vessel]

noooo

[proud plume]

who are the 3 pale beings

[quartz roost]

Well she can't really protect herself and she lost her protection so she's probably dead

[fiery burrow]

Pale King White Lady and Grand Mother Silk

[potent vessel]

theres white lady, pale king and grand mother silk

[quartz roost]

Umm, there are more than 3

[frosty light]

palestag 🤩

[potent vessel]

is radiance a pale being

[fading fog]

Yeah, I think there's more than 4.

[proud plume]

its a higher being

[fiery burrow]

Pale Beings seem to be soul related higher beings which Radiance is not

[shut quartz]

I don’t think so? Could be wrong

[potent vessel]

shit boss

[quartz roost]

Or do you mean ones that have pale in their name?

[fading fog]

No, she's a higher being.

[shut quartz]

She seems to be more of a light, dream being

[quartz roost]

Don't think what?

[proud plume]

no

[frosty light]

she has a runic shielding seal thingamajig on herself tho. dunno how many people could get past that

[shut quartz]

That radiance is a pale being

[quartz roost]

Loose terms, they pretty much are the same thing

[fiery burrow]

are they though

Its only used for 3 of em

[quartz roost]

Void, knight

[potent vessel]

the nightmare heart is a higher being but definitely isnt pale

[quartz roost]

Grimm

[frosty light]

well its a good thing shes on the other side of the map 😌

[quartz roost]

Ohhhh, do y'all mean higher beings that look pale?

[shut quartz]

Actually question: so how come the pale lady and the king’s children are all void creatures even tho they aren’t? Or are they? I’ve questioned this for a while

[frosty light]

grimmchild got really offended after that one remark from her

[quartz roost]

From???

[potent vessel]

they were mixed with the void

[fading fog]

She is a deity of dream/light, not completey pale.

[frosty light]

the abyss

wait are talking about white aldy

[quartz roost]

Yes

[frosty light]

wiatt aldie

[proud plume]

imagine having to kill voided savage beastfly

[frosty light]

ok then yeah

[quartz roost]

Sooo??? Void spreads

[potent vessel]

pretty sure some people dod that

[proud plume]

ik

[frosty light]

yeah like. to the basin. and thats it

[quartz roost]

I mean it doesn't seem that much worse

[shut quartz]

Thank god someone told me that happens before I went into act 3🥀

[frosty light]

and that one spot in deepnest

[potent vessel]

void wouldnt spread upwards unless a massive event like in silksong act 3 happened

[proud plume]

np

[quartz roost]

It spreads over time, it can keep going, look at pharloom the moment they lost what was holding it back

[shut quartz]

Dw I alr did it

[proud plume]

theres like 4 boses the get voided in act 3

[shut quartz]

Yeah

[potent vessel]

it only spread because of grand mother silks threads, not because of her absence

[proud plume]

duall gross mothers i think chef and something else

[quartz roost]

Actually it just spreads anyways, only reason it hadn't already in silksong is because of GMS holding it back, for HK it's RAD

[shut quartz]

I think you gotta do chef in order to get to act 3

[frosty light]

they didnt lose anything that was holding the void back, it only ravaged the kingdom due to its sudden connection to gms's silk (which had already taken root in everyone in pharloom)

[shut quartz]

I think it’s that huge bug in greymoor

[potent vessel]

oh fair enough

[proud plume]

moorwing yea

[frosty light]

theres no indication of void spreading like that. pk wanted an eternal kingdom and he sure didnt seem concerned about making more lighthouses or adding flower decorations to his palace

[shut quartz]

“Ohhh you wanted to put off these fights so you could fight them when you’re stronger???? SIKE we made them stronger SUFFER”

[quartz roost]

If I remember correctly which it has been quite some time since I played through the game, but wasn't GMS holding the void back herself?

[proud plume]

pk only whats saws as dec

[frosty light]

theres just void in gaseous form seeping from the abyss into nearby areas

[quartz roost]

We have quite literally been told that RAD and GMS were holding it back... So it mostly spreads like that

[frosty light]

no, what was described is that gms was holding the void at bay from herself (and therefore lace's body) by continuously forming the big cocoon, but maintaining it was wrecking pharlooms structural integrity and linking void to the haunting

[quartz roost]

Spreads to nearby areas then spreads to new ones

[shut quartz]

AAA I FINALLY DID IT, ALL FLEA GAME HIGH SCORESSS

[frosty light]

we werent told that. rad does consider the void an ancient enemy but that probably had to do with the ancient civilization that worshiped it,

[frosty light]

it doesnt do so actively, its just gas

its why even though countless generations have passed its still limited to the basin and the basin-looking area in deepnest

[quartz roost]

Okay, fine you win, I don't remember the lore good enough anymore to keep arguing about it

[frosty light]

the infection came into existence, disappeared, then came back and physically accumulated over years in the basin within a fraction of that time and yet it still has a much greater presence there than the void does

[light swan]

i love rad

[quartz roost]

Nicee;! Seth's ones too?

[shut quartz]

No, I have yet to beat his boss

Decided to get nail upgrade and a mask or two before attempting again

[frosty light]

i mean thats fine it is just game, and also you can like intentionally believe anything about the world, its just that the game definitely doesnt say its a thing

[proud plume]

seth or no seth

[frosty light]

SHRUESHRUESHRUESHRUESHR

[shut quartz]

Seth is a force to be reckoned with..

[proud plume]

remember what rad did to his followers in green path

[shut quartz]

But his backstory is very sad so I can’t hate him

[light swan]

rad did no such thing

[proud plume]

check green path

[earnest drift]

normally this would ba a silly reason to not hate a character but in the case of Seth it’s valid

[proud plume]

radiance?

[light swan]

rad!!

[proud plume]

???

[earnest drift]

reverse attack dash

[quartz roost]

It's just what I remember... But I also haven't fully played through the game since release month

[light swan]

rdacted

[frosty light]

reverse radiance attack cancel

radiant dash atta

[quartz roost]

*her

[light swan]

how do i get more people to rdac

[orchid spruce]

rad is pretty rad

[quartz roost]

Yes

[light swan]

radians was the original

[orchid spruce]

rad is better

[frosty light]

invest in more cursed propaganda? since its witchs most blatantly unique set of content and its not related to witch nuking

[earnest drift]

radians are real
degrees are a fraud

[light swan]

maybe

fid you see my cursed karm

[frosty light]

no sawtooths either tho, just rdac spam

nople

[graceful oyster]

(NINE SOLS ALL BOSS SPOILERS)
Chat what do we think of this

[proud plume]

wrong server

[earnest drift]

I still think it should’ve been called FurryParry

[graceful oyster]

Wah wah

[orchid spruce]

oh my gawd minibosses ranked

wawa

[light swan]

lade nog and ying can stay, everyone else moves down to C except for the fucks who go down to F

[graceful oyster]

[light swan]

maybe the problem is that rdac jut sucks

[frosty light]

wronf

[light swan]

maybe it’s just so difficult even i haven’t mastered it yet

[frosty light]

i mean ok maybe

[quartz roost]

Good but in my opinion: ||Yi or whatever her name is should be moved up to S, Lady ethereal should be moved up to Aura. And is the first S tier guy that good??||

[frosty light]

but like in general players dont try to invest in tech that much

[light swan]

i have 5 clips of rdac chains

[frosty light]

or it hasnt seemed that way at least

[light swan]

2 of them are from bosses/enemies that stay still for 5 seconds

one of them is the fat judge

[hasty rover]

i swear the underworks is the worst place in my opinion after it is blasted steps and bile water

[light swan]

the last two i barely get more than 2 rdacs in

[frosty light]

ive seen people largely perfecting standard gameplay outside of runs

[quartz roost]

I wish more people would teach themselves tech, it's so fun to use techs

[graceful oyster]

||General Yingzhou is AWESOME for the first real boss. Also, Ji is kinda lame. Cool presentation but it's just easy projectile spam.||

[quartz roost]

Am I crazy if I say I like Bilewater?

[light swan]

bilewater is the best area in the game

[hasty rover]

no we all have opinions

[light swan]

a lot of us think so, i think it’s valid

blasted steps is also like, A tier

[lucid forum]

you'll absolutely love putrified ducts

[light swan]

ik for grynne underworks is A/S

[frosty light]

hopefully people will be braver in the incoming years like how eventually spoonsei did fuckin turnaround side slashes with quick slash

[graceful oyster]

I like Underworks

[hasty rover]

i hate blasted steps for the nose flying people

[graceful oyster]

I also like Steps

[hasty rover]

thats the only reason i hate it

[lucid forum]

underworks is oppresive and very eerie, and lore wise it's a very cool area

[hasty rover]

everything other then them is good

[earnest drift]

all silksong areas are good except city of tears

[hasty rover]

but the nose dudes

[quartz roost]

Fair enough buuuut ||Ji is gambling, also really cool boss concept, just needs a difficulty buff. Yeah I guess but Yibgzhou should have more phases||

[light swan]

i also think there’s too little people playing witch

everyone either hates it or touch it surface level

[frosty light]

who petrified all those ducks anyway?

[graceful oyster]

It's not gambling if you can see where the good option is and hit it every time

[quartz roost]

Witch is my second favorite crest so I definitely agree!

[normal rapids]

I JUST BEATEN HIGH HALLS GAUNTLET

[lucid forum]

i'll force myself to play it rn, i really want to get to it

seems fun and quick, i'm just too attached to hunter

[quartz roost]

Shhhhh... It's fun your first time fighting her

[graceful oyster]

||Ji || is a he actually

[frosty light]

also tru. part of why i think investing in cursed makes sense despite losing two sick ass aspects of it, simply because its a niche it can never lose. its THE challenge bindless toolless skilless crest

[light swan]

it has slow attack speed but it’s one of the coolest crests ever

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1481335365414424597/caption.3e6bea82.gif

[frosty light]

tho modding lets you spam naked crest everywhere anyhow

[lucid forum]

congratulations

[frosty light]

not the same tho

[normal rapids]

My heart is racing cherry team Why making this fight the hardest 😭

[frosty light]

[normal rapids]

Nearly choked tho

[light swan]

everyone check out my propaganda

[frosty light]

why is her tongue blue btw?

[light swan]

the good part is that with cursed i cant put on barbed bracelet

which means i can facetank

[frosty light]

maybe its because of the part-chameleon dna the weavers have

[orchid spruce]

blasphemous 2 spoilers, nine sols spoilers, mio spoilers

top 5 bosses for me from each game

[normal rapids]

Btw breaking the claw maiden nest was absolutely worry

Worthyz

[frosty light]

[orchid spruce]

oh wait blasphemous only had 4 i forgor

[graceful oyster]

It's such a shame I've now beaten peak and will never fight anything better

[shut quartz]

Ok so tormented trobbio or try my best to beat Seth

[normal rapids]

im coming to get u lace 2

[light swan]

i should make a boss tier list

[graceful oyster]

Also what the heck is conchfly doing there

[orchid spruce]

🥹 she's only the peak of 2D metroidvania, i think

[graceful oyster]

3D games bore me

[orchid spruce]

rare actually good silksong boss

[frosty light]

god imagine if act 4 was released and it was revealed that every time you met lace it was a different one each time

[light swan]

(afterimage, nine sols, mio, etc SPOILERS) i know my S will be ||second sentinel, shii, renee, eigong, and maybe seraphic ceratinia||

[normal rapids]

3 laces

[frosty light]

also the choral chambers one who just fucks off

[normal rapids]

The triplet sis

[normal rapids]

I just count the boss fight

[frosty light]

and maybe the ensnared silk one isnt even the sister of the void one

and the one behind in the scenes in the intro cutscene was another one too

[normal rapids]

Btw y’all

[void agate]

im listening to a high halls cover

[normal rapids]

Lace 2 is harder or easier than high hall gauntlet ?

[void agate]

easier

[tidal hearth]

Easier by a long shot.

[proud plume]

what should i use for seth

[normal rapids]

Ight doing it now then

[rocky jolt]

where is crawfather?

[void agate]

its so peak

[tidal hearth]

I was actually suprised how quickly lace 2 went down.

[orchid spruce]

[rocky jolt]

one sol

[void agate]

why is everyone yapping abt sum 9 souls

[normal rapids]

I got 7 mask, upgrade 2 nail i should be fine

[frosty light]

is that what crawfather looks under the birsuit

[void agate]

heres 9 soul

[tidal hearth]

Your fellow "red dc pfp" brother brought it up.

[orchid spruce]

blasphemous 2 spoilers, nine sols spoilers, mio spoilers

top 5 bosses for me from each game, blasphemous actually has 5 bosses now

blasphemous 2 bosses are mostly mid and then there's a random banger at the end

[void agate]

it appears my foolish brother is bringing up other games in sk disscussion

[normal rapids]

Also by watching some videos i feel like lace 2 is harder than grand mother Silk

[quartz cave]

hello homosexuals!!!!!!!!!!!!!! happy wilson wednesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tidal hearth]

Hello there

[proud plume]

i killed seth 3rd try

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/james-wilson-house-md-gregory-house-sparkle-on-and-be-yourself-wednesday-gif-10694982973253766125

[graceful oyster]

Why are there so many default discord red pfps

I've seen like 4 in the last 2 days

[void agate]

maybe its just been me the whole time

[normal rapids]

Ight im in the elevator lace is here

[shy kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662500313130991617/1491196445049487390/Hollow_Knight-_Silksong_-_2026-04-07_10-59-39_PM.mp4?ex=69d6d069&is=69d57ee9&hm=ec49210f6791ceb88596aa7856b1a7b45952b6793f264d634b54655fd7287966&
how do i beat him

[orchid spruce]

i can confirm, i am him

[quartz cave]

chat im about to play spoopy game #4 wish me luck

[void agate]

get a cup

[rose flax]

guys whats yalls favorite Silk Songs

[void agate]

https://youtu.be/s2Z5ZQtSV9Y?si=oUJt_ei8_KELY8gO

[quartz cave]

sleepyhead in hit game lbp2

[rose flax]

valid choice

falling asleep in the place with the most hellish enemies in the citadel

[void agate]

fr

[coarse leaf]

@random garnet

[rose flax]

it has a lot of potential to be lyricized by MOTI

they better drop a High Halls with Lyrics

[void agate]

whos moti?

[rose flax]

man on the internet

man who gives lyrics to video game soundtracks

[rocky jolt]

Bilehaven

[rose flax]

made Undertale the Musical

[rose flax]

NOT THE BAD ONE

[olive depot]

Does anyone know if the timer continues while the game is paused?

[rose flax]

what timer

[tidal hearth]

Grimm 🔥

[olive depot]

The timer keeping track of how long you’ve played. For the speed run achievements

[rose flax]

may be their best work ngl

[unique wasp]

hi

[lean pendant]

Fun Fact: If you ate 200 apple seeds, you'd die from cyanide poisoning.

[unique wasp]

how r u all

[sinful yarrow]

I MADE IT THROUGH BILEWATER AND NOW THERE ARE GLOWING WHITE LADIES AFTER ME

[rose flax]

LOLL

[rose flax]

use epic silk guitar near the flies

and keep doing that

[sinful yarrow]

what i dont have that

[rose flax]

u dont have needolin?

[void agate]

has anyone here heard of RYS

[lean pendant]

https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/Wraith_Form

[quartz cave]

what if you eat fifty million bananas and die of radiation instead

[naive pier]

Guess who just beat steel soul mode?

[rose flax]

me

[void agate]

what does that mean for donkey kong

[rocky jolt]

199 is the limit

[void agate]

does he have a lead stomach

[naive pier]

Correct!

[rose flax]

how long do you think itll take you to regain your sanity

[sinful yarrow]

am i not supposed to be here

[lean pendant]

Fun Fact: If you ate 40,000 bananas within the span of less than 10 minutes, you'd receive a lethal dose of potassium and die from radiation poisoning.

[void agate]

https://giphy.com/gifs/donkey-kong-pauline-bananza-kJmiTGOcX4HQrdXoUs

[tidal hearth]

[naive pier]

It wasn’t that bad, some close calls, but I managed through a neat life hack called: closing the game

[rose flax]

if you dont have a source of music, go back to greymoor and go the other way

[sinful yarrow]

this is really cool but i feel like im going in circles

[rose flax]

probably because you are

[trim estuary]

https://slaythespire.wiki.gg/wiki/Wraith_Form*

[lean pendant]

However, you would have to eat an average of 11 bananas per second for that to work.

[sinful yarrow]

FUCK ME DID I NOT EVEN NEED TO GO TO SINNERS ROAD?

I THOUGHT I NEEDED IT TO GET THE BELL FROM BELLHART

[rose flax]

nope

[quartz cave]

well easy he isnt eating bananas there

[rose flax]

i could tell u were the bell is, but the exact location if u dont want spoilers

[quartz cave]

hes eating dangerous unidentified crystal minerals

[void agate]

ahh yes, much much safer.

[rose flax]

also this route is still useful, just not now

[quartz cave]

obviously

[sinful yarrow]

KILL KILL KILL ME IVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH BILEWATER AND SINNERS ROAD FOR LIKE 3 HOURS

[rose flax]

dw you just got it out of the way early

that means you wont have to suffer later

[soft ivy]

bilewater

[rough anvil]

Whats wrong w it

[still osprey]

The Abyss is awesome I love Act 3

[void agate]

putrified ducts was not alright

[soft ivy]

this area is hell on earth

[still osprey]

I love Bilewater

[rough anvil]

Its fun tho

[soft ivy]

it’s not

groal is the worst boss of the game

[slim thorn]

Its awesome tho

[rough anvil]

Its parkour

[rose flax]

turn your hate to the citadel

[rough anvil]

He has 3 attacks

[rose flax]

they made bilewater what it is

[soft ivy]

citadel is goated

[rose flax]

the citadel's beauty made bilewater hell

[split ore]

groal is so cheesable

[tidal hearth]

Embrace the maggots

and win

[candid kayak]

in some ways bilewater is cleaner than the citadel

bilewater is not covered in cobwebs, but the citadel is

[slim thorn]

Never, keep those away from me

[split ore]

You dont even need a crazy architect build I just got the wanderers crest and pogo'd off him over and over

[slim thorn]

Well you are infested with silk eating bugs

[candid kayak]

or you could just NOT swim in the maggot water and win

[slim thorn]

Of course webs arent gonna be there

[tidal hearth]

The existence of that one gluttony in the citadel makes it instantly messier.

[candid kayak]

TRUE

the citadel associates with the flies too

the slab is owned by the citadel

[fleet temple]

I can't take people who say groal is the worst boss seriously when plasmified zango is right there

[candid kayak]

yeah

headless chicken boss

[tidal hearth]

Yeah. And brood mother.

[candid kayak]

broodmother is fine

[tidal hearth]

Even unravel might be worse. MAYBE

[still osprey]

groal is not a bad boss at all

the worst part about him is his contact damage like

[candid kayak]

mm

[tidal hearth]

Now that i think about it, silksong really doesnt have that many "bad" bosses. Like almost at all imo. Especially compared to hollow knight.

[candid kayak]

the huge floating boss ominously drifting towards you while you're backed against a wall:

yeah

[harsh yarrow]

people get unnaturally angry when a boss requires you to wait even slighly

[candid kayak]

true

[harsh yarrow]

see, Groal and the Unraveled

[tidal hearth]

Its the gen alpha

[harsh yarrow]

I really dont get the hate when it comes to the Abyss also, hate the rest of act 3... not the abyss for no reason

[candid kayak]

I feel like a lot of the hate for unravelled comes from people not understanding that the hitbox is slanted at the back

[harsh yarrow]

shit like "black attack on black background for lost lace so baddd"

...then uh... you actually use your eyes and look at the arena

[tame meteor]

hi i need to ask something

[harsh yarrow]

I dont know what the fuck some of ya'll smoke, that background is at best grey

[tame meteor]

i went to acmi and recorded the skong demo (full) but i forgot 1 secret room. is it worth sending in?

[candid kayak]

yeah like I don't even SEE backgrounds during combat

my brain basically filters that out automatically since it isn't relevant information

[harsh yarrow]

I get the hate for act 3 being content sparse, and not offering much in terms of exploration
But people hating it so much for the Abyss and Lost Lace? I think thats bullshit.

[fiery burrow]

I've def had trouble spotting the portals that shoot projectiles

[candid kayak]

...really?

[fiery burrow]

anyway the abyss is part of the issue with a lack of content/exploration there's not much there (as was the case in the first game)

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

They could've done more with it

[candid kayak]

I mean... it IS just one area

[vale whale]

hey atleast silksong abyss has the worst boss ever

hk abyss doesnt even have cool areas with aura like the birthplaxe

[harsh yarrow]

take your bad opinions elsewhere smh

Lost Lace my beloved ;3

[still osprey]

I will never understand the Act 3 hate it's such a highlight

[candid kayak]

I don't get it either man

[harsh yarrow]

Its just content sparse, you get two new exploration areas, which I think is a bit sad

[candid kayak]

I think people just like complaining

[still osprey]

going into act 3 and experiencing it all blind was genuinely so hype

[vale whale]

and the enemies are so lame

[fleet temple]

I personally would've preffered a completely new boss
but it's not like it doesn't make sense and fit thematically
it's still an amazing final boss

[harsh yarrow]

Thats fair

[still osprey]

tbf the final acts are mostly just meant to be wrapping stuff up, so it makes sense if there's not a lot

[harsh yarrow]

I do like the idea that Lost and Chained went with- just dont like Binding GMS before the final part of the fight

[fleet temple]

both of which are more so setpieces rather than areas and one of them is gone once you complete it

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

I think for what Team Cherry wanted, Act 3 is fine.

[fiery burrow]

LLace being mostly reused attacks is pretty dissapointing imo

[harsh yarrow]

meh

[still osprey]

ok can I be fr I don't understand this

[candid kayak]

people complaining about act 3 not having enough content when act 2 is literally just a progress indicator

[vale whale]

dude genuinely when lace said " what awaits inside is me no longer " i turned the switch off, went to the corner shop, went back home, ate a bag of fizzy watermelons, rewatched forrest gump and only then did i regain the courage to face the inevitable shit boss

[fiery burrow]

Along with Act 3 in general not having a super great narrative

[candid kayak]

meanwhile act 3 changes the entire fucking world

[harsh yarrow]

I dont care about that as much when compared to say, Summoned Saviour

[still osprey]

like every attack gets something new added to it to the point where I can barely consider Lost Lace a rematch

[vale whale]

and they almost definitely chose lace because her fights are already AMAZING so they would have to put in less effort to make a good and unique final boss

[fleet temple]

I mean honestly would else could the final boss have been?

[still osprey]

• she gets like 5 new attacks too like

[candid kayak]

yeah it resembles lace of course, but it's very different from the other lace fights

[vale whale]

theyre all reused or extremely unoriginal

[harsh yarrow]

Summoned Savior is just act 3 enemies but act 2, Lost Lace has actual attacks beyond it

[still osprey]

we're actually just saying shit now

[fleet temple]

lost gms?
random void creature?

[harsh yarrow]

A combo fight between GMS and Lost Lace would've been cool

[fiery burrow]

Compared to Rad who is a substantial shakeup in gameplay

[still osprey]

random void creature would've been ASS

[harsh yarrow]

Which is why Lost and Chained exists

[vale whale]

summoned saviour is a floating blob which dashes at you and throws puny projectiles😭😭😭

it's an act 2 COMPLETELY optional extremely obscure boss

[harsh yarrow]

I might steal the idea for Silksoul, once I get to doing Act 3

[fleet temple]

I personally prefer radiance as a true final boss but I'm glad they didn't just do the same thing again in silksong

[harsh yarrow]

eventually

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

[steep jolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZwus7scW6Y is this boss cool guys its my first ever boss

[harsh yarrow]

that I think is fair

[worthy lintel]

I don't really blame TC for making Summoned Saviour so bad because it means it's not something you're likely to lose Steel Soul to + you're not missing out on much, but also it could've been something other than a flying void mass

[fiery burrow]

Rad 2 would suck but something that changed gameplay as much as Rad did while still retaining depth would be good

[vale whale]

" waah waah shes too easy " good work man she scales to the skill of the average player and then some she's the perfect culmination of the game's skills

[steel crow]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[still osprey]

THK > Lost Lace > Radiance > AbsRad as final bosses imo tbh

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

[fleet temple]

I'm ngl, your idea for silk soul is part of the reason I'm not that upset with act 3
because this pretty much fixes all my grievances
don't mean to put pressure on you or anything though

[analog mist]

Ooh ooh ooh

What are we arguing about???

[steep jolt]

wait is summoned saviour act 2 or 3

[harsh yarrow]

For now, Silksoul is not concerned with Act 3 XD
I do plan on figuring it out later

[still osprey]

Act 2

[sinful yarrow]

Jesus I finally got the bellway for bilewater

[worthy lintel]

Act 2

[sinful yarrow]

I've opted out of buying the bench and just use the blasted steps bench instead

[fleet temple]

I do agree
though I will say, what else could've the final boss been instead?

[sinful yarrow]

It's such a scam to make you buy both the bench and the bellway

That's so stupid

[harsh yarrow]

Also, comet, would you be interested in helping out with World Weaver soon™?

[fiery burrow]

idk tbh

[fleet temple]

that's exactly why I like it
it takes the best parts of act 3 and actually makes them part of the main game

[fiery burrow]

Ideally a more dynamic fight than LLace

[worthy lintel]

Helping in what way? I assume that's the Unity thing right?

[harsh yarrow]

part of

[fiery burrow]

And with like brand new attacks

[still osprey]

I always thought Radiance was kind of disappointing as a final boss

[fleet temple]

also I will say there's a decent chance dlc might give us another true final boss

[still osprey]

like there is no real emotion or depth to it you just kill god

[earnest drift]

radiance is lame as a bossfight, a character and as a narrative conclusion

[harsh yarrow]

AssetProxy is our library for loading unity scenes efficiently, World Weaver is going to be a library for it

That will have utilities for making custom maps, scene loading, fast travel extensions, ect

[steep jolt]

huh

[harsh yarrow]

From the Unity end of things, mostly

[worthy lintel]

I can probably help out a bit, idk exactly what needs doing though

[still osprey]

and like I've seen people get mad at act 3 for bringing the void into the game and referencing hk and like, do you realize how stupid that sounds like god forbid the sequel references the original game??? 😭

[harsh yarrow]

I assume that you have the most knowledge of going about how to edit the fast travel the systems at least XD

[still osprey]

like am I missing something I really don't get it

[steep jolt]

you cant be too hard on radiance because it was made when team cherry didnt have much money

[harsh yarrow]

I have a list of things that I wanted World Weaver, but until AssetProxy is done its finneeee

[steep jolt]

you dont even need unity to do that you can just do that in architect

[vale whale]

lace rising from his slumber to regurgitate the same obviously biased and disingenuous statements about the radiance and acknowledge 0 fault in silksong's writing or lace's presentation:

[steep jolt]

his???

[harsh yarrow]

I perfer the power I get from Unity ;3
Like, seeing the Z axis

[fleet temple]

yeah void is like
literally the one thing from the first game that I wouldn't consider fanservice

[fiery burrow]

Moreso because its not really a thematically coherent addition and just comes off as nostalgia bait

[harsh yarrow]

And not having to do shenanigans with uploading all assets I use to Google Drive or whatever

[worthy lintel]

Yeah I've done stuff with fast travel before, I can probably help with that sort of thing

[steep jolt]

thought you were talking about radiance in game

[narrow bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-mccartney-book-dusty-book-rupert-the-bear-we-all-stand-together-gif-26151358

[fleet temple]

up to act 3 silksong has been incredibly scarce with it's references to the first game, so act 3 including all of them is honestly pretty rewarding for fans

[earnest drift]

I loved how they included void in silksong
at first it seems like an out of nowhere twist but after a few minutes into act 3 it was obvious

[harsh yarrow]

Less user friendly, more power, roughly

[vale whale]

oh my hod is that hod project moon😟😟😟😟😟😟