sk-discussion

[sharp slate]

Eh i think it would fix a big part of it

[minor sparrow]

I mean if you wanna be bored the whole fight sure

[sharp slate]

having to time your red tools instead of bullshit go

[minor sparrow]

You could beat the boss by standing still and waiting 3 minutes or you could just play the game

[sharp slate]

i think some damage numbers could be tweeked, aka volt vessel bola and curvesickle

[versed pollen]

Increase bola damage but make them even harder to control

[lavish apex]

a cooldown would probably make quick sling insane but also the game needs more good tools anyway imo so

[short trout]

I think that would make them a lot less fun to use. Besides it would just delay the inevitable

[light swan]

by that logic, shaman pale nails weavelight

[minor sparrow]

The primary use would be to discourage tool spam, which is most of the issue

[glacial bane]

Guys dont say that im bad but look at this clutch

[sharp slate]

yea currently good tools are clear as day

[trim basalt]

Thanks for swearing and for the link.

On my wiki search, it showed nothing besides a link to something called CC-BY-SA

[vale whale]

an image of them all on the map is literally impossible

[toxic vigil]

if you use weavelight you are lowk boring af

[minor sparrow]

Tool spam and boss dies in 20 seconds is most of people's issues with tools, not that tools are just good

[short trout]

Well you can either view the tools themselves as the issue in toolspam or the spam as the issue

[minor sparrow]

And camping with tools isn't?

[light swan]

if you want around for the cooldown of red tools you are lowk boring af

[minor sparrow]

The spam. Definitely the spam

[mental snow]

Not literally impossible, just almost unreadable

[sharp slate]

you can use the overall map if you like https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom

[normal token]

Has anybody used cogwork wheel outside of architect spam?

[minor sparrow]

Tools need to be good enough to offset their capacity and use of another resource

[frosty light]

the thing about nerfing red tools is it kind of hinders them more during exploration than against bosses (less capacity is naturally more relevant when spread across multiple enemy encounters, and less damage can be more important if it makes a difference between an extra hit killing a normal enemy earlier), so idk maybe some change to shell shards would make more sense since their real cheesibility comes from unloading all your shards on one big health pool enemy

[minor sparrow]

But currently they're really good and can be thrown out 5 times a second

[versed pollen]

Grover

[trim basalt]

Thank you

[short trout]

Wouldn't that be boring tho? What's your take on a cooldown? Like a 15s cooldown when you reach 50% capacity or what?

[normal bramble]

Oh I got hollow knight faydown

Monarch wings sounds less cool then faydown cloak imo

[frosty light]

yho if what they did was something like a bigger cooldown then ig itd be quick slings time to shine

[sharp slate]

nah nothing that huge like even a 1 second cooldown

[minor sparrow]

15s is definitely too much lmao nah just like a 1 second cooldown

[light swan]

which is why cooldown is goated

[minor sparrow]

Maybe half a second, would have to feel it out

[lavish apex]

thoughts on removing the condition from egg chat

[light swan]

i’d say 5-10

[versed pollen]

15s cooldown would be tragic could you imagine trying to use straight pin

[mental snow]

https://youtu.be/p0HdY5WK-Hs

[sharp slate]

does anyone have that architect clip

[minor sparrow]

The nyleth one?

[sharp slate]

i think 5 is a bit long

[short trout]

You are talking about every tool throw, im not

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[lavish apex]

5 seconds would be good

[sharp slate]

that or the karmalita

[light swan]

wrong gif

[toxic vigil]

also nerf the high dmg red tools like curvesickle, volt vessels and conchcutter stuff

[lavish apex]

maybe make it variable for each of them

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-sk-skong-silksong-gif-10584794009593226309

[minor sparrow]

That is NOT architect

[light swan]

bro fucking hell

[sharp slate]

you need to label your gifs

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[sharp slate]

perfect organization

[versed pollen]

How did you fuck this up

[minor sparrow]

I'd say it's better for individual throws to have cooldown than to have a random cooldown in the middle of your tools

[frosty light]

😭

[sharp slate]

pain

[versed pollen]

You didn't wait for any of them to load? You just clicked and hoped?

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/second-sentinel-ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-gif-14144986572548286793

[light swan]

yep

[sharp slate]

you could also have different cooldowns for different red tools

[minor sparrow]

That's especially bad if you're spreading out tool usage in a gauntlet for example

[sharp slate]

though thats a more indepth process

[light swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519967790682210305/1068855552467288094/movi.gif

[main urchin]

Shaman is the farthest thing from Architect you can think of

[normal token]

cross-stitch failure 🥀

[lavish apex]

.

[sharp slate]

too strongh imo

[frosty light]

btw remember this as reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoWM-_WSlNk

[sharp slate]

you could make it half health

[minor sparrow]

Spell spam becomes the new issue

[short trout]

I think it's fine as it is.

[minor sparrow]

Go my 80 pale nails

[sharp slate]

Shaman already has... well not an issue... but its really strongh against bosses because you can just burst them

[glacial bane]

Send avg wanderer and reaper

[lavish apex]

as an hk spells enjoyer i would like if they were just 3 notches by default

[short trout]

Shaman is pretty strong but balanced

[frosty light]

is this a bit or were you slash ass are ass 😭

[normal token]

It's fine for it to have a condition but for a game like Silksong where you're always nearly gonna die or nearly full I think full hp is a bit too limiting for it tbh

[lavish apex]

that not being the case is why i don't really use silk skills

[short trout]

That would probably make it better than spell twister made spells in hk

[glacial bane]

@light swan Send avg wanderer and reaper

[lavish apex]

i think as it is it's a pretty miserably underwhelming reward for all fleas

[frosty light]

0.02 seconds is diabolical

[lavish apex]

the pale oil isn't

[versed pollen]

They programmed some bullshit for Hunter damage boost but left egg of flealia crumbs to eat

[minor sparrow]

Fair, but an overall decrease in cost is kinda crazy

[exotic dome]

flea eg shouldn't only work for max hp imo

[minor sparrow]

It should have a condition regardless, but half health + above is probably fine

[sharp slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1483537242415829003/Trobbio2.mp4?ex=69d5f9f9&is=69d4a879&hm=ad6d5bbed64ba78d0a2785fb92267ff2ec1af94c5095dfcf348fdd719e7af49f& Average wanderer gameplay

[frosty light]

altho idr anymore if for red tools the animation is the full cooldown

[short trout]

Where's your Cross stitch

[sharp slate]

Cross stitch bad

[frosty light]

igs hela f ast anyways though

[versed pollen]

Why did you edit that message I was watching that

[sharp slate]

unrioncally cross stitch is slower

[minor sparrow]

That is, in fact the current topic of discussion

[short trout]

You said average wanderer I'd say that's what an average wanderer player would run

[minor sparrow]

True

[exotic dome]

thats why i said it

[sharp slate]

totally all average players run sawtooth

trust

[frosty light]

maybe at full health OR at full silk?

[glacial bane]

@light swan Send avg wanderer and reaper

[lavish apex]

that would still be bad

[normal token]

I was excited to use sawtooth on my first playthrough until I went to memorium with it and realized this shit can screw me over

[frosty light]

new ype of player varying only between 15 and 18 silk

[weak depot]

It's raining heavily outside, 23:22 right now, and im here sitting by my window in complete darkness listening to the city of tears OST

Moments like these makes me feel that life is truly magical

[glacial bane]

Bro its the same for me except for the cot ost

[slender juniper]

https://youtu.be/vkM-yXX30S0?is=SgyODhCVaB4tzN9P

How long do y'all think he lasted

[high bough]

iidk why i dont find first sinner so hard i beatt her in my 10thh attempt

[sharp slate]

okay i kinda like conditional on silk tbh

like above half silk gives egg of flea bonus

[lavish apex]

that would be good

[sharp slate]

rewards knowning when you have x amount of silk

[short trout]

I'm fine with egg of flealia only being at full health. A somewhat high skill cap tool rewarding you with roughly 10% more silk skill dps is not for everyone, but a fine tool.

[frosty light]

egg not being compatible with plasmium phial on shaman is

[sharp slate]

I'm fine with egg where its at, but im actually vibing with more than half silk more

[frosty light]

wanderer reference?????

[high bough]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-shaw-shawema-gif-9331728831177334972

[slender juniper]

Why can't it just be soul twister

[lavish apex]

because only 3 silksong tools are allowed to be good

[sharp slate]

slowly spreading into the tools

[lavish apex]

everything else has to have a downside or be a mid gimmick

[sharp slate]

sawtooth, filament and pollip pouch right

xD

[lavish apex]

sawtooth iband filament

[exotic dome]

because tc can't balance anything

[sharp slate]

yea iband is insanely strongh

quick focus my beloved you deserved so much more love

[lavish apex]

(reserve bind and fractured mask and longclaw are ok too)

[toxic vigil]

longclaw

[short trout]

Spell twister was really broken tho

[normal token]

injector band is if you're nostalgic for 2019 silksong

[slender juniper]

Cough cough reaper

[lavish apex]

i love quick focus

[glacial bane]

Mbinder too

[slender juniper]

Not really,blue slots are more valuable than 2 slot charms so when I equip a blue it better not be conditional

[weak depot]

You should put on cot, it makes it much much more amazing

[sharp slate]

because spells were really strongh in hk i assume, trauma from hk balancing

[lavish apex]

mbinder has a sizable downside

[main urchin]

Soul Twister: possibly the best charm that I don’t think can be considered broken

[frosty light]

TEAM CHERRY MAKE POLLIP POUCH INTERACT WITH SAWTOOTH CIRCLET AND VOLT FILAMENT FOR NO ACTUAL REASON AT ALL

[exotic dome]

half the tools are usable but most of the other half is nerfed with some gimmick for no reason

[sharp slate]

there is a reason we dont have money in silksong and thats because trauma from hk

[glacial bane]

Waht

[normal token]

You can clearly tell with some silksong tools that some are like hk charms but given a limitation

Other than volt vilament that's just shaman stone again

[sharp slate]

they were like fuck too much money in hk nerf silksong

[weak depot]

How would volt filament even work

[lavish apex]

literally the time extension

[short trout]

Just don't use it if you don't use a lot of skills.

[main urchin]

Shaman Stone: Broken
Quick Slash: Broken
Strength: Broken to the point of Meta Centralization
Soul Twister: Great but pretty reasonable

[frosty light]

injector band also gains synergy with pollip and so you take poison damage at the end of the bind

[slender juniper]

You see...I use a lot of silk skill but I'm not always at full health

[toxic vigil]

disagree

[short trout]

It's slightly nerfed but yes

[slender juniper]

Do we see the problem

[sharp slate]

to a degree yea, also reverse direction like memory crystal and wisp lantern which are just buffs

[exotic dome]

strength is meta only in godhome

[normal token]

This is diabolical, implement it

[sharp slate]

a lot of similarities between tools and charms

[toxic vigil]

but halfed

[sharp slate]

mostly due to how the game are so similar though which makes sense

[exotic dome]

strength is mid outside of godhome and colosseum

[frosty light]

apply poison to filament = more purple damage over time

[lavish apex]

strength is meta for all dream content

[sharp slate]

Shaman is basically used for everything till godhome lol

its crazy

[lavish apex]

even without unbreakable

[exotic dome]

shaman is kinda broken for hitless

[sharp slate]

techincailly not dream warriors

[slender juniper]

Most of the time you have 3 blue slots,max slots in HK are 11, if you devide that by 3, that's 3,5 charm slots per blue tool

[normal token]

I used memory crystal a couple months back and I act found it to be dope, cogfly is p much a better glowing womb too

[sharp slate]

yea, they run it overcharm in hitless well technically MOP is the overcharm

[main urchin]

Quick Slash is good on both Spell Builds and Nail Builds because it gives better soul generation due to more attacks per second

[toxic vigil]

reds and yellows:

[exotic dome]

i'll probably won't use shaman for silksong godhome

[short trout]

Same but I don't usually take damage, and even when I do I just heal once and it's back in effect. I don't want to be the guy to say "skill issue" but playing around it is interesting for me now that I have been using it for a bit. Not really for everyone

[exotic dome]

unless they balance it

[slender juniper]

Yellows are.... and reds ..we don't talk about red

[raw pawn]

is beast bind faster or witch

[toxic vigil]

we do we have belt so thats steady body + stallwart shell

[sharp slate]

my build for godhome is probably going to be two different ones, intial build is going to be iband, mask, multi, wanderer crests, sharpdart, plasmium file i think, weighted belt, dice

[frosty light]

tbf wispfire TECHNICALLY costs more white resource than glowing womb did 1 silk x 4 = uh 4. 8 soul x 4 = 32. 33>32 😌

[short trout]

Don't forget the dice as well

[slender juniper]

True

[toxic vigil]

beast

[slender juniper]

If we placed yellows into HK they'd all be one notch charms

[sharp slate]

hitless godhome will be wanderer, sawtooth, volt filament, longclaw, flintslate, sharpdart, weighted belt, dice, barbed bracelet

[toxic vigil]

thats still +3 on all but witch and shaman

[lavish apex]

hitless difficulty is just gonna be hunter all the way for me

pantheons i'll probably do wanderer

[toxic vigil]

cross stitch* and hunter and shell satchel

[sharp slate]

hunters pogo is just too inconsistent for me tbh

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-skong-sk-gif-9152098084645823068

[weak depot]

Pollip pouch is ass anyway tho

[raw pawn]

yk I should try a beast only run with debug mod

[slender juniper]

11-3=8:3=2,6 charm slots ber blue tool

[fiery burrow]

Beast + Injector Bands can probably plow through most of the pantheon

[sharp slate]

cross stitch i just dont enjoy, like sharpdart more

[normal token]

I've done like 20 bosses hitless so far and the only time I didn't user hunter was against fotf

[short trout]

This is funnier than not even parrying and just facetanking everything

[sharp slate]

hunters crest i honestly think is a trade off for hitless tbh

you are trading consistency for damage

[toxic vigil]

also like
tc just decided to nerf all blues overall
cough best blue being 50% of shaman stone

[short trout]

Fair, agree with you on that one

[lavish apex]

what about the pogo is inconsistent?

[light swan]

whats slash ass are ass, no that wasnt ab it

[slender juniper]

Wdym,shaman is 33%

[raw pawn]

the only thing I don't like about beast is that you need enemies near you to be able to heal

[sharp slate]

Smaller hitbox, interactions in odd ways with bosses on occassion

[short trout]

Wdym 50% of shaman stone

[frosty light]

confirmed >1 boss/tool in sos btw

[toxic vigil]

shaman stone increases spell dmg by 50%
volt does by 25%

[sharp slate]

hunters pogo dragging you towards the enemies makes it more inconsistent imo as well

[normal token]

Actually real
Lowk I got tired of waiting for my enemies with cross-stitch, with sharpdart I can just get up close (enough for the delay to not screw me over) and click it

[lavish apex]

it also says more than 1 area

[slender juniper]

Wrong

[fiery burrow]

Lomm and Lemm duo boss

[short trout]

Shaman increased spell damage by 33%, no?

[frosty light]

/srs

[sharp slate]

if you miss a hunters pogo you just get hit, if you miss a wanderers pogo you can bail yourself out of it

[main urchin]

Shaman is inconsistent

[toxic vigil]

it does 33% for shade soul, but also gives more size

[sharp slate]

basically minimizing risk

[short trout]

True

[exotic dome]

volt is more balanced

[frosty light]

tbf volt also has extra tick damage so its not quite half. (but then again, sstone also made fireball gigantic... double hits for days)

[slender juniper]

HOLY SHIT

[toxic vigil]

cough xero triple hits cough 120 damage cough

[main urchin]

It buffs Shade Soul by 33%, Abyss Shriek by 50%, Desolate Dive by 51%, and Descending Dark by 47%.

[short trout]

Volt fillament is better than shaman stone not by strenght but by balance

[toxic vigil]

the 51 / 47 is due to rounding

[raw pawn]

I don't know how much shaman does but they both add to 60-65% with volt filament

[main urchin]

Aw you just beat me!

[toxic vigil]

shaman is 1.4
volt is 1.25

[normal token]

Descending Dark damage increased by 47% ye Team Cherry should have gone to hell already

[sharp slate]

wait i swear to god shamans was 50% across the board wtf

[fiery burrow]

left vs right ddark

[slender juniper]

It used to be 1,5 for shaman sadge

[toxic vigil]

it makes shade soul bigger

[exotic dome]

abyss shriek by 50% is crazy what were they thinking

[frosty light]

fireball is 33% but bigger (cant remember if others technically get bigger as well), abyss shriek is 50%, ddark is 46.66% on one side and 35.38% on the other

[quartz roost]

Volt adds extra ticks

[raw pawn]

they nerfed shaman buff to silk skills?

[lavish apex]

shade soul gets less damage but easier double hits

[short trout]

Extra ticks barely do anything. Yea they are nice but the main focus is clearly the flat damage percentage buff

[exotic dome]

good call

[sharp slate]

yea ik that, but i thought it was a flat damage buff crazy

[normal token]

They nerfed it a couple of months ago iirc, increase was 50% and is now 40%

[quartz roost]

Depends on which skill it is

[toxic vigil]

yeah ik

[sharp slate]

i have over 1k hours in hk how the hell did i not know tha

[toxic vigil]

silk issue smh

[frosty light]

for some reason descending dark (not desolate dive) deals 5 more damage on one side if you dont have shaman stone equipped

[slender juniper]

The ticks are 5-10 extra damage

[sharp slate]

big number go brrr i guess lmao

[frosty light]

wait if theyre updating hk again they could still fix that, or maybe they even did (dont think so)

[quartz roost]

Still extra damage

[fiery burrow]

read nerfed shaman and almost had a heart attack thinking they'd changed HK's charm balance

[frosty light]

thread storm gets to have 15 if you mash tho 😌

[sharp slate]

it would be funny if they started trying to balance hk now that they are doing updates xD

They already made r5 easier by nerfing absrad and sly PFFFFFFT /s kinda

[short trout]

My point still stands tho, that's merely a bonus

[glacial bane]

How abt re*per tho

[slender juniper]

Is thread storm volt filamented the best skill?

[fiery burrow]

AbsRad health reduction 💔

[potent vessel]

a bit late for that

[glacial bane]

Shaman

[lavish apex]

they didn't nerf absrad they patched a really shitass bug

[fiery burrow]

And my beloved orb hitboxes

It added character you see

[sharp slate]

its a nerf, im sorry if anyone does r5 now im better than them /s

[short trout]

Maybe?

[exotic dome]

nerfing sly? more like fixing it

[sharp slate]

im glad they fixed it though

[lavish apex]

what did they do to sly?

[sharp slate]

they fixed hits greatslash hitbox

[frosty light]

remember when they accidentally nerfed nail arts but made them affected by strength in the beta for 1.5 but only most of the time somewhat at random, because for some reason the game started using previously unused values still left in the game from back when they used to have those numbers before the game released

[exotic dome]

fixed his shitty great slash hitbox

[slender juniper]

Hitbox

[lavish apex]

what was wrong with it before

[sharp slate]

HUGE

[fiery burrow]

no wtf

[frosty light]

technically rune rage has the most damage potential but youll never get it

[raw pawn]

5-10 extra damage is good enough for me

[lavish apex]

what the fuck

[sharp slate]

yea its probably the most crazy hitbox in hk

[exotic dome]

hk players will look at you and tell this is a good boss battle

[frosty light]

only took 7 years 🥹

[lavish apex]

sly is a good boss!

[quartz roost]

Normal hit box

[fiery burrow]

If I modded my game to get max damage rune rage all the time and started doing speedkills no one would know surely

[short trout]

Too small. Make it bigger.

[sharp slate]

its a pretty good boss battle tbh

[potent vessel]

hmmm idk

[lavish apex]

that hitbox is
like
indefensible though
how did it make it through testing

[potent vessel]

sly is a good boss battle

[quartz roost]

It is though

[exotic dome]

i fell asleep in phase 2

[frosty light]

...yeah, because they did that, and people didnt know what was going on for a bit, because it completely fucked all bindings collector, but like, not all of the time, since sometimes youd still deal the normal 1.4 damage

[sharp slate]

fixed it

[exotic dome]

it's ass and i will die on this hill

[potent vessel]

just say you died brocheeto sauce, we wont judge 😭 🙏

[misty drum]

Wtf is wrong with me I beat silksong in under 5 h on normal mode and barely died at all, meanwhile in still soul I die to every single thing imaginable

[fiery burrow]

when are they fixing GPZ's hitbox

[frosty light]

[exotic dome]

i have radhog

[quartz roost]

I feel that so much:(

[fiery burrow]

This has happened twice to me in my playtime but its a major bummer mid p5 run

[misty drum]

AI

[sharp slate]

i like the sly fight because its a change of pace

[raw pawn]

gambling 🤑

[sharp slate]

phase two is like a bob and weave as well

[slender juniper]

Is his hitbox a fucking squars

[frosty light]

fuck i should probably like bug report the 50 fuckin things still in hk ive been puttin it off but like maybe theyll actually fix it still with some more

[still osprey]

Genuinely what were they cooking

[lavish apex]

sly is quite a fun fight to me

[fiery burrow]

Sly's phase 2 is kinda lame but Phase 1 is so unbelievably peak and Phase 2 is so short that its still S tier

[sharp slate]

meth

[still osprey]

Sly is a solid A tier boss imo

[frosty light]

ok the clip isnt actually loading for me but i assume you staggered him mid downslashslamthing, right

[raw pawn]

did sly use to have hitboxes bigger than his slashes or something 😭

[sharp slate]

tbh they might have intially designed his greatslash to be that big but then they toned it down and never adjusted the hitbox

[exotic dome]

phase 1 is always unfun to fight for me and (was) broken and phase 2 is not even a boss fight

[fiery burrow]

yeah

[sharp slate]

since the hitbox is seperate from the visual

[short trout]

Thank you. Release the patch

[fiery burrow]

boss tierlist go

[frosty light]

yeah thats when his shitass invisible hitbox shows up and i think you needed to stagger him again to get rid of it...?

[raw pawn]

rank tools, but on how useful they are in steel soul only

[sharp slate]

Anyways off to the coal mines with me, happy hollowing the knight

[toxic vigil]

satchel S+

[fiery burrow]

Yeah

[still osprey]

I don't have an hk only boss tier list so here it is with the silksong ones too 🔥

[short trout]

Not gonna lie people here like to judge everything lmao

[exotic dome]

valid

[exotic dome]

i'd put nkg on s tier and sly on e tier

[frosty light]

ok ye then good im not making shit up

[raw pawn]

plasmium phial and fractured mask def in S

[toxic vigil]

is this good or nah

[quartz cave]

CHAT

[frosty light]

its better that i only do that when its on purpose 😌

[potent vessel]

imo phantom is overrated, shes more A tier than S tier

[raw pawn]

I need to learn to take fractured mask off

[fiery burrow]

Soul warrior below Groal is crazy work

[still osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-hollow-they-them-gif-9035642985040867451

[quartz cave]

the true gif nation has WON today

[short trout]

I know it's insane damage but getting hit during gifs like this is -1000 aura

[exotic dome]

palestag should be lower

[frosty light]

a new true has?!

[fiery burrow]

Phantom has a ton of aura but the fight is kinda lacking something yeah

[slender juniper]

The M

[toxic vigil]

it takes like 30 minutes to get early control bc debug is stupid

[raw pawn]

wdym the fight is very fun

[frosty light]

phantom is lacking a phase in which hornet sets them on fire

[hybrid flare]

P-ranking desintegration loop literally murdered me this shit is so tiring

[quartz cave]

isnt the artemis ii peak

[hybrid flare]

Like holy fuck i love the level but its so easy to fuck up

[raw pawn]

phantom thief

[still osprey]

I just think Phantom is a very fun fight

[hybrid flare]

This list is pretty good id say but whats with ppl obsessing over seth

[lavish apex]

soul warrior is considerably better imo

[fiery burrow]

yeah yeah I mean its lacking something to be S tier its still a great fight

[still osprey]

I wish they were a little harder but it's ok they're fun

[lavish apex]

oh no nvm

[hybrid flare]

She's lacking to be S tier, but has it to be A tier

[still osprey]

I just think Seth is an extremely fun fight

[lavish apex]

soul master is better than groal not warrior

[still osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-hollow-they-them-gif-9035642985040867451

[fiery burrow]

Level is too long I'm sorry

[frosty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Q84-7LgNI

[lavish apex]

warrior is basically not a boss

[short trout]

Am I the only one who dislikes the Seth fight

[hybrid flare]

deadass

[lavish apex]

no

[fiery burrow]

8-3 is so cool and easily top 10 levels but I think the amount of filler encounters and length kinda drags it down from being the best level which it easily could be

[exotic cedar]

I wanted to puke after that level

[raw pawn]

honestly I would I include the craggler as a boss because it does that freeze screen after you defeat bosses when you kill it

[fiery burrow]

Also I don't really like the aesthetic of it being a mishmash of other levels compared to the unique and fleshed out aesthetic of other fraud levels but I think I'm kinda alone on that

[lavish apex]

i mean i love seth but i've seen people hate on his fight before

[exotic cedar]

Not that it's bad, but it tired me

And i played on like very low fps

[frosty light]

but... no, please... 😭

[exotic dome]

i get people who dislike it. it's b tier for me

[hybrid flare]

It may be a contender for my favourite level because it's one hell of a trip

[frosty light]

if it must be so, do NOT make a godhome team cherry‼️‼️

[hybrid flare]

but then again 8-2 has literally nothing bad about it sooo

[raw pawn]

watch the craggler be in godhome

[fiery burrow]

Secret 4

[frosty light]

maybe we'll get winged craggler tho

[hybrid flare]

I am yet to find someone who cares for those

[fiery burrow]

8-2 is amazing though

[exotic cedar]

Please don't cook

[fiery burrow]

Optional encounters are always great

[raw pawn]

floor craggler

[still osprey]

If there's a boss I think is extremely overrated, it's Karmelita. Her speed, especially in the last phase, is way too fast for any normal player to keep up. It's extremely player-unfriendly and unfun. Not to mention how she just randomly blocks attacks for no reason with no telegraph. I really don't know what Team Cherry was thinking when designing her

[lavish apex]

there is guaranteed to be one dogshit slop godhome fight

mark my words

[hybrid flare]

oh man, i cant disagree more as i see karmelita as the pinnacle of hk bossfights

[fiery burrow]

(LOUD SOUND) secret 4 actually hurt my ears though and its ugly asf

[raw pawn]

is this one of those ragebait messages

[fiery burrow]

Also eats like a minute off your timer

[hybrid flare]

oh my fucking god warning please

[lavish apex]

that reads like a copypasta

[fiery burrow]

I said it hurt my ears 😭

[exotic dome]

this is a copypasta now

[hybrid flare]

not to that point

[still osprey]

I like ragebaiting it's funny

[lavish apex]

they're gonna make double beastfly

because they hate us

[exotic cedar]

Dogshit slop fights? Seems like something team cherry always makes...

[main urchin]

Beastfly but the lava is now flaming muckmaggots

[hybrid flare]

hk godhome didnt have any bad fight right?

[short trout]

This looks like a copypasta but I lowkey really really hate how she seemingly randomly zips forwards or backwards half the arena.

[fiery burrow]

Winged Nosk

[lavish apex]

winged nosk is pretty bad

[hybrid flare]

Aside from winged nosk

[short trout]

Anything to get the Beast crest

[fiery burrow]

Yeah the rest are great

[frosty light]

ascended craggler leak

[exotic dome]

i hate sly but this is a very unpopular opinion so

[exotic cedar]

I don't like oro and mato

[lavish apex]

some of the godhome warrior dream arenas are pretty stinky

[exotic cedar]

But sheo is amazing

[short trout]

I dislike him too you aren't alone

[hybrid flare]

you monster

[fiery burrow]

If you pick a fight with sly you pick a fight with all of us 🗣️ who's with me 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[hybrid flare]

i think that all of the nailmasters are pretty damn good

[exotic dome]

sheo is close to be an s tier for me

[frosty light]

karmelita is...... like a dance

[hybrid flare]

they all have their own stuff to like

[hybrid flare]

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/oi-gif-20749371

[short trout]

Sly ain't letting you hit

[tight meadow]

Ngl I could see that

[hybrid flare]

sly is goated like that

[tight meadow]

Or maybe beastfly where it drops lava down occasionally

[hybrid flare]

seth's bossfight deserves more slander

[exotic cedar]

Sly is good

[raw pawn]

the craggler will be in godhome

[frosty light]

gron riding a savage a beastfly a throwing spears at you

[fiery burrow]

I thought Seth was pretty fun

[tight meadow]

Groal the potato but his breath has muckmaggots

[exotic dome]

team cherry's chatgpt chats
sly phase 2
silksong act 3 lore

[fiery burrow]

Also longpin feels good to use I like an excuse to use it

[raw pawn]

Lmao

[hybrid flare]

Seth feels like second sentinel but they extracted some elements that make second senti good

[raw pawn]

acting like second sentinel isn't good

[hybrid flare]

???? 2nd senti is peak

[frosty light]

longpin couldve just a dealt a lil bit more dmg and 💅

[tight meadow]

Second sentinel launching those little repair dudes at you

[exotic dome]

silksong if it had good boss design

second sentinel is awesome

[tight meadow]

2 moss mothers: 4 moss mothers

[exotic cedar]

New silksong update will bring drunk bell beast racing

[hybrid flare]

The air spinner thingy that seth has is barely telegraphed and he just flies backwards with no reason nor followup

[frosty light]

also tc add tool fusion and let me combine rosary cannon with straight pin itll only add 8 years to development

[lavish apex]

craggler is not a boss

[tight meadow]

F????? The flixer butter be able to make more hornet statuettes

[exotic dome]

i wish second sentinel was harder it could've been top 3

[tight meadow]

Fs

Just too low HP ngl

[hybrid flare]

i dont consider boss difficulty very important as long as its not the final boss and the boss itself is fun

[tight meadow]

Pimpillos abused him

[fiery burrow]

ChatGPT write me dialogue for a boss in my dark gritty fantasy kingdom

Processing... 🤖 🔄

"Never... have I been defeated in combat.

I can... see myself there, still sleeping. How long have I been hidden here?
Here at the edge of the world, no-one could find me... except you.
Warriors, knights, kings, even time itself... they have no power over me. Only you.
You are the darkness... come to consume me. "

[hybrid flare]

Like first sinner is easy and yet she still lands on the top 10

[tight meadow]

I'd argue not important to the story instead

As in karmelitta

Good design making her hard

[fiery burrow]

Easy final bosses can be good

[tight meadow]

But she's harder than the final boss

[lavish apex]

lost lace is much harder than karmie imo

[tight meadow]

Karmelita could be S tier if she wasn't such a deal

[exotic dome]

is this fucking markoth

[hybrid flare]

I mean, karmelita might be not important by herself but she represents a portion of old pharloom which is relevant (old pharloom expansion when)

[exotic cedar]

I can see that, the fight is longer i think

[tight meadow]

Karmie took 19 tries for me

[exotic dome]

agreed

[lavish apex]

karm took me like 45 minutes ll took me like 3 hours

[tight meadow]

💀

[hybrid flare]

The hardest boss is margit the fell omen he whooped my ass the first time i was like rune level 14 i think

[tight meadow]

LL took me like 30 minutes

[hybrid flare]

shit wrong game

[tight meadow]

Not even joking

[lavish apex]

i blame that partly on me playing reaper and also being dead tired for the latter but still

[exotic dome]

ll took me two hours and karmelita took me 40 mintues

[tight meadow]

Once I made it to the 4th stun I locked in

[hybrid flare]

I was reeking of dissapointment when i first saw ll so i didnt want to beat her very badly

[lavish apex]

my evidence is that i beat lace 2 second try with 7 masks

but either way i still think she's a lot harder than karm

[fiery burrow]

more llace slander!

[lavish apex]

because of the void shit

[fiery burrow]

gabriel is gonna mog lace so hard for the triple encounter formula

[lavish apex]

karm doesn't really have overlapping attacks

[potent vessel]

100%

[misty drum]

Guess the tier list

[hybrid flare]

she genuinely grew on me and i really do love her now

[fiery burrow]

nvm blocked

[hybrid flare]

And we already had what i consider the PEAK of gabriel-likes in act 2 so it better be luci

gabe 1 is mid fight me on it

[fiery burrow]

dude how tf would lucifer be the final boss

[potent vessel]

gabe 2 is worse than gabe 1 💔

[hybrid flare]

Why wouldnt luci be

[fiery burrow]

bro ain't even relevant to the story

[misty drum]

Oh ye, I forgot this is sk discussion and I can talk about silksong anywhere but here

[hybrid flare]

Gabe should be dead by now

[trail orchid]

Maybe the real Hollow Knight was the friends we made along the way

[fiery burrow]

main arc ends in 9-1 and the final boss of 9-2 is just a completely new guy

[hybrid flare]

9-2 is a completely new game

[fiery burrow]

I'm like 90% sure its gonna be Lucifer in 9-1 and Gabriel in 9-2

[hybrid flare]

Luci yk, groomed by hell after god threw him into the slammer, game's about hell right

[potent vessel]

hakita said lucifer wouldnt be in the game

[fiery burrow]

Lucifer is namedropped twice wym

[hybrid flare]

I dont give a fuck

[potent vessel]

i heard a cool theory that lucifer is gonna be the flesh prison for p3

[fiery burrow]

Bro is obviously in the game

[potent vessel]

even still he would make no sense as the final boss 😭

[misty drum]

Guysssss

[fiery burrow]

well yeah def

[hybrid flare]

Usually the prime souls are imprisoned by angels, god didnt even bother he just dropped luci in

[misty drum]

I wanna talk about silksong

[potent vessel]

not even as a side boss

[hybrid flare]

so i think its odysseus

[scarlet karma]

you cant here sorry

[hybrid flare]

He would

[fiery burrow]

I think its plausible as a side boss

[hybrid flare]

I would be satisfied to have him as a final boss

[fiery burrow]

Odysseus Prime seems likely for p-3

[idle sparrow]

Hakita literally said that in no point of ultrakill will you fight lucifer

[fiery burrow]

OK but when

[hybrid flare]

will hakita make another X tier boss like flesh prison and panopticon for the flesh cage thingy in P-3

[potent vessel]

hk bosses tierlist 😋

[fiery burrow]

Ultrakill fandom is pretty notorious for making up random hakita quotes

[exotic dome]

is this ultrakill

it is ok

[fiery burrow]

Seems respectable

[trail orchid]

If the Hollow Knight is hollow, does that include his head?

[versed pollen]

NKG and SoB at the top I don't even care

[hybrid flare]

Lost lace below cogwork "i can't land a single attack ever" dancers and traitor lord above C tier is wild

[fiery burrow]

green prince in S probably gets you jumped

[potent vessel]

i lowk had him in A before

[fiery burrow]

cogwork clears llace

[exotic cedar]

Yeah jumped by me

[hybrid flare]

Cogwork stays in mid A tier

Llace mogs every boss except karmegoata

[exotic dome]

TRUTHNUKE

[hybrid flare]

orphan of kos mogs every boss like ever

[idle sparrow]

I guess

[fiery burrow]

i mean if I had to choose I'd probably boot up the game to fight dancers over llace its just a more memorable fight

[exotic dome]

i'll do a hk franchise tier list too never done that

[hybrid flare]

Both are memorable but llace has more hype and aura

[fiery burrow]

LLace was NOT hype

I remain a daughter of hallownest 🥀

[potent vessel]

true eigong mogs all these bosses anyway

[hybrid flare]

i used to hate ll too, for a few hours, you seem to be too stubborn

[idle sparrow]

Savage beast fly better karmelita 💔

[leaden delta]

look idc I just want p-3 to have good arenas and the best boss

[hybrid flare]

when are we going to give in?

[hybrid flare]

TRUE

[potent vessel]

my thoughts on lost lace have actually gone down ngl

[fiery burrow]

give into what she's entirely reused attacks and her story is mid

[leaden delta]

Let’s take from sisyphus and not minos please

[potent vessel]

but i still think shes peak

[idle sparrow]

Son

[hybrid flare]

P-3 will have another boss thats comparable to the minecraft bosses just watch

[fiery burrow]

doesn't even look cool

[potent vessel]

is bro the no1 lace hater

[lavish apex]

she's not entirely reused attacks

[hybrid flare]

Fighting the void is neat n all, her visual design is lacking

[fiery burrow]

pretty much is

[subtle lynx]

cogwork dances is overrated

[trail orchid]

He just like me fr fr

[subtle lynx]

it's one of the easiest fights in the game

so boring

[fiery burrow]

I didn't find it very neat

[idle sparrow]

The story carries the entire boss design

[lavish apex]

easy doesn't always mean bad

[hybrid flare]

I hated it the first time but ended up loving it through the conclusion n all

[lavish apex]

if it did first sinner would be d tier

[subtle lynx]

the story doesn't make sense when you first play it

[hybrid flare]

wish she wasn't lace in black paint though

[fiery burrow]

I'll take an easy but unique boss over a hard but bland boss

[subtle lynx]

what, am I supposed to feel bad for killing a robot that tried to kill me first?

[idle sparrow]

You later find it out don't you

[hybrid flare]

mechanically cogwork dancers are pretty mid

their gimmick is unique but if they tracked you it would be so much better

[subtle lynx]

the fight needs to be twice as fast for it to work

[light swan]

second fentanyl

[potent vessel]

🥶

[subtle lynx]

it has such a slow pace

even lace 1 is more fun because it's more dynamic

[hybrid flare]

I'll take the overall more solid boss than a slightly unique mechanically boring boss

[potent vessel]

hmm hes lowk onto something

[trail orchid]

Sharpdart is the best skill and I'm tired of pretending it's not

Highest DPS + invincibility frames? Why the hell do people rank it so low? Just because you have to wait a bit? You have to wait for flinspark to activate too, but so what?

[hybrid flare]

hornet 1 mogs lace 1

[fiery burrow]

that's why I'm designing sea of sorrow and you aren't

[hybrid flare]

lace 2 mogs hornet 2

[potent vessel]

spitting facts

[hybrid flare]

Son 💔

my dad works at microsoft

[fiery burrow]

anyway I found them engaging ngl

died to the dancers like 2 or 3 times iirc

[exotic dome]

extreme trukes

[hybrid flare]

and llace mogs infected hornet

Hold on

[fiery burrow]

hornet 1 feels a bit stiff in comparison to lace 1

[hybrid flare]

Lace 1 moves every 5 seconds

[fiery burrow]

you also have a more limited moveset

[lavish apex]

lace 2 is better than hornet 2 but i wouldn't say mogs

[hybrid flare]

Even though hornet 1 has some weird walking like almost every hk boss she has a more varied moveset

[lavish apex]

i really like hornet 2

[hybrid flare]

No, lace 2 absolutely mogs hornet 2 imo

[lavish apex]

i think she dies a little too fast normally but that's it

[hybrid flare]

I'd go as far as to say i'd take lace 2 over pure vessel

[lavish apex]

not even close

[hybrid flare]

Pv is not allat im sorry

[lavish apex]

they are indeed allat

[hybrid flare]

I do like pv but just replay the fight man

[lavish apex]

i do

regularly

repeatedly

[sacred lion]

Yknow
Why is there a weaver spire in the cauldron anyway

[hybrid flare]

They built over it

[sacred lion]

Why is that there

[fiery burrow]

Pure Vessels focus attack is the tuffest attack in the franchise btw

[hybrid flare]

The underworks likely werent during weaver rule

[hybrid flare]

Ll moulinet mogs

[lavish apex]

best metroidvania boss i have ever seen

[hybrid flare]

its also fanservice because descending dark

[fiery burrow]

what is a moulinet

[sacred lion]

I guess that makes sense

[hybrid flare]

Circle damage thingy

[fiery burrow]

Also LL is slop don't care

[sacred lion]

anyway fuck unravelled

[hybrid flare]

Pv is thk but 2 enhanced moves

[fiery burrow]

sorry that's mean I mean I'm not interested

Yeah and showing some refined soul spells is way cooler than void nostalgiabait

[hybrid flare]

buddy 💔

[hybrid flare]

Refined spells stolen from weavers

[fiery burrow]

It might be ragebait

[hybrid flare]

allat just for the attack to be descendingdarkeable

[lavish apex]

most insufferable response of all time goes to:

[subtle lynx]

idk what the toughest attack actually is

[hybrid flare]

The best metroidvania boss imo is eislop

[fiery burrow]

PV is a solid contender

[hybrid flare]

I'd take some bosses from sk over pv

[fiery burrow]

Its Rad though 100% if you don't think its Rad you just haven't played her enough

[subtle lynx]

the lost lace circle attacks are tough looking but they actually never hit you

[hybrid flare]

Ive done absrad on rad and no she's not allat

[sacred lion]

speaking of that if they do make a city of steel game i hope they include an abyss in that as well
but like
its different

[lavish apex]

rad has some ass mechanics

[hybrid flare]

Eye candy

[fiery burrow]

not that impressive play her some more

[sacred lion]

cuz its been implied the steel beings have some kinda relation to void

[fiery burrow]

wym

[subtle lynx]

I mean toughest attack not character

[warped ledge]

If you play Minecraft bedrock dm me

[sacred lion]

so what if the city of steel had infastructure in the abyss

[warped ledge]

Please

[subtle lynx]

it's also the music and sound effects though

[hybrid flare]

eigong and its really not close for any other boss except karmelita and ll maybe

[hybrid flare]

Yeah that makes it good

[subtle lynx]

but radience is probably the toughest character in hk

her entrance is the toughest thing in all hk for sure

[hybrid flare]

Yeah i do agree

[lavish apex]

i've done radiant twice, lasers in phase 1 is the most dogshit attack in the entire franchise and i absolutely hate the orbs during plats

[fiery burrow]

orbs I think are one of the more interesting attacks especially since you can bait them into platforms or drop down to move quickly

[hybrid flare]

Lady maria is so good every game posterior to bloodborne had to have some boss that resembles her but ultimately doesnt come close

[short trout]

I hate how sometimes when lost lace does the black pillars attack she sometimes hides inside of them and I can't see what attack she is about to do

[fiery burrow]

Don't really know what the issue with lasers is but I think they're kinda just ok

[hybrid flare]

Sometimes they're pretty frustrating to deal with in the 2nd phase

[lavish apex]

first set comes out far too fast for being completely rng

[hybrid flare]

black pillars?

[short trout]

Well the vertical tentacles

[fiery burrow]

I think its like uhh half a second + the glowing face telegraph isn't it

[lavish apex]

they're slower in plats so it's fine there

[hybrid flare]

I mean, i guess, but the telegraphs are long enough

[short trout]

It doesn't happen oftenly but when it does I actually cannot see it at all

[sacred lion]

yknow whats something really annoying

When you get hit and then try to parry but you cant cause of the iframes
and then your iframes run out midway thru ur parry and you get hit again

[lavish apex]

i haven't played nine sols yet, the praise for that final boss has jacked my expectations up so high that i doubt they could possibly be met at this point

[exotic dome]

same lol

i hope it meets my expectations

[round pebble]

Died to bell beast in steel soul

When the fight was over

[trail orchid]

You know what my real problem is with cross stitch? You get it so late that by the time I do, I get too used to dodging to get out of my comfort zone, let alone in a way that requires stricter timing and costs silk

[timid sky]

Seth b tier?

[round pebble]

To a bell

[exotic cedar]

Seth is overrated imo

[exotic dome]

yea

[subtle lynx]

I put it A tier because of the song

but it's like nothing special

it's just your average duel type fight

[round pebble]

No eyes and galien aren't bad

[subtle lynx]

galien is at least B tier wtf

never rank again

[lavish apex]

galien is probably the best dream warrior but he isn't great

[exotic dome]

galien is the most untelegraphed boss ever

[exotic cedar]

Galien is abysmal dogshit

[subtle lynx]

he is by far the best and he is a good fight

if you don't like him, you have insane skill issue

[exotic dome]

i have radhog

[lavish apex]

again not how that works

you can be critical of a fight and not be bad at it

[exotic dome]

i dislike every dream warrior

[exotic cedar]

Most of the hits i get from him in all bindings is the contact damage from himself

[subtle lynx]

not in this case, because there is nothing wrong with his fight

[exotic cedar]

His fatass blocks the way

[exotic dome]

exactly

[fiery burrow]

you can also be critical of a boss while being bad at it

[tight meadow]

Feels too kind ngl

[exotic dome]

i dislike god tamer because of the same reason, they just run into you for no reason

it's not hard to prevent it but it's not a good design

[subtle lynx]

yeah galien doesn't do that

I've never been hit by him unless I'm playing dumb

[exotic dome]

whatever you say

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-whatever-you-say-boomer-ok-girl-gif-16819302

[hybrid flare]

gpz is by far the worst walk forward offender

[exotic dome]

i like gpz but i can see why people dislike it

half of the hk bosses suffer from similar issues

[exotic cedar]

Did you try him in all bindings?

[slender juniper]

Guys will I be able to run silksong

Just got a new PC

[subtle lynx]

no

but no boss was designed to be beaten hitless, so taking that into consideration makes no sense

[graceful cairn]

yeah youll be fine

[slender juniper]

Thanks

[lavish apex]

i think plenty of bosses were designed to be beaten hitless?

[slender juniper]

All except zango

[subtle lynx]

you think they didn't expect people to use the healing mechanic they purposefully put in?

[slender juniper]

No

[lavish apex]

you think they didn't expect people to try the hitless difficulty they put in?

[subtle lynx]

or they were planning 2 years ahead for when they released a random missable dlc?

[exotic cedar]

Yeah i understand why you don't get from his hitbox

[exotic cedar]

You just go under him and spam nail/spells

[subtle lynx]

yes, because that came 2 years later in a hidden dlc with no actual reward so...

[lavish apex]

if it wasn't something they had the forethought for at all then why is it possible

[graceful cairn]

evolution of the 7 billion people 🥹

[lavish apex]

i'm not saying they expected anyone to do that without ever trying but obviously at some point there was a consideration of like "ok we should make it possible to do these without taking damage"

[golden crater]

fight radiant markoth or get a job, what would you choose?

[quartz gulch]

tf

[quartz gulch]

Fight the job

[golden crater]

jesus i almost had a heart attack seeing this.

[quartz gulch]

Sorry, I forgot the spoiler tag.

[untold dune]

hornet has already applied to 400 jobs in 6 months

[exotic dome]

what would you change

i was too kind to dream warriors tbh

[quartz gulch]

300 of those involved killing a mother.

[quartz gulch]

Damn, more tierslop.

[exotic dome]

waiter waiter more tierlistslop please

[untold dune]

its readabilityslop to me

i dont like that template

[golden crater]

oh god more slopslop

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-hog-slop-sloppy-slop-pig-gif-27581143

[quartz gulch]

Why is the chat kinda dead today though, I expected there to be some more discussion.

[untold dune]

eh its been like 7 months since release

i think the hype is dead

[golden crater]

we need sea of sorrow

[untold dune]

good thing its releasing tomorrow

[exotic dome]

it died about 20 minutes ago

[golden crater]

what are you talking about? it released yesterday.

[untold dune]

but.,. thats not the phrase

[golden crater]

the plasmified beastfly was hard as hell, i almot rage quit

[exotic dome]

@thick crystal how are you always watching the chat to react that emoji

[onyx python]

enviromental storytelling

[untold dune]

seriously tho what was he doing here

[tight meadow]

lowering like half of B and C by one

[tight viper]

We must kill Sherma

[untold dune]

ok whiteward

[fading fog]

Was likely looking for bugs to cage, and got caught by that, and died from lack of 02.

[untold dune]

yeah but why the ducts specifically

[still osprey]

Spit Squits are a MAJOR threat and NEED to be caged

[untold dune]

dont these wardenflies know that spit squits solo?

[fading fog]

I mean, these flys fly over over pharloom, it's possbile they would check the ducts.

[tight viper]

Could’ve been after the Ductstress

[fading fog]

True

[onyx python]

he was probably really hungry idk

[lavish apex]

spit squits need to be erased from the ecosystem

[untold dune]

first person to go to the ducts willingly

[onyx python]

also how tf did that thing manage to hold that fatass with its tongue

[quartz gulch]

Both died. One to acid (stomach stuff) and one to "plus-sized".

[untold dune]

idk personally i wouldve just not gone there

[midnight jasper]

Boom

Who plays Haiku the Robot

Seems like a cool game I'll try it soon

[tight viper]

Zer0?

The borderlands 2 guy?

[midnight jasper]

?

[quartz gulch]

The slab obtains their prisoners in two ways; being given a target to capture or being brought the penitents over the bridge leading from the citadel. This fly was on the lookout for Hornet when it got its head in the wrong hole.

[tight viper]

Guessing it’s not that

Oh

[untold dune]

skill issue

[exotic dome]

#nukeputrifiedducts

[quartz gulch]

#unputrifyducts

[tight viper]

You’ll kill the fleas

[exotic dome]

that's his friend

[quartz gulch]

Only Seth matters though, fuck them Fleas and their nasty games.

[quartz gulch]

Citadel orders

[tight viper]

Dodge is fun

[normal bramble]

I adore Quirrel

[tight viper]

Also Mooshka is a cool dude

[normal bramble]

He might actually rival Shakra for my favorite HK character

[quartz gulch]

Kratt

is cool, only Flea game that doesn't make me want to ragequit.

[tight viper]

My favorite characters are Eternal Emilitia and Conductor Ballador

[exotic dome]

we are conductor ballador

[tight viper]

They’re rich and if I am nice to them they might buy me fancy things

[normal bramble]

I like bounce and dodge

Juggle is uh. A game that exists

[quartz gulch]

Personally favourites of mine are The Pale King, Grimm/NKG, Eternal Emilitia, Nosk, Xero, Reed, Grand Reed, Seth and prolly some I forgot.

EDITED LATER:
Willow, Styx, Groal the Great, Crawfather

[astral kettle]

Any tips for lost lace?

[normal bramble]

I’ve seen eternal Emilitia, and nosk

Nosk was a very mehhh fight

[untold dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255903627328098374/1396815609525829703/attachment.gif

[normal bramble]

Emilitia I talked to once

[exotic dome]

don't mindlessly run around the arena, she can appear in front of you and deal contact damage

[quartz gulch]

I also like Groal the Great

[normal bramble]

What did he do to be called the great I wonder

[exotic dome]

the stilkin lost their leader 😔

[quartz gulch]

-Druids Eyes
-Multibinder
-Injector Band
-Wanderers
-Flea Brew (use during staggers for maximum silk gain)
-no silk skills
-dice (you'll get hit a lot)
-silkspeed anklets (dodge parries)
-Heavy Belt (i-frames)

[astral kettle]

ty

[crude drift]

LETS GO I GOT THE ||WEAVER QUEEN|| ENDING!!

[quartz gulch]

He is just great, nobody has to say why. He's so great that nobody even knows him before they know he is great.

[crude drift]

First time beating the final boss!

[quartz gulch]

Spoilers are aloud here. Also, cool!

[exotic dome]

ggs

[crisp heron]

even stuff like shermas act 2 death

[crude drift]

You mean allowed?

[fading fog]

I should say this, did you get the ||twisted bud|| or have you yet to find it?

[crude drift]

Never heard of it

[crisp heron]

i made it up

[crude drift]

I mean I’ve never heard of this

[fading fog]

Oh boy, If you get that, don't speed along stuff, there's a ending with that.

[crude drift]

So it if I get that, I should beat GMS again?

[proud plume]

yes

[fading fog]

Yeah, but, It is not easy. took me 6 hours, without sleep at night to beat it.

[crude drift]

How so?

[exotic dome]

it's like a challenge

[crude drift]

Does it nerf you or somwthing?

[fading fog]

YEP.

[crude drift]

May I know how bad it is?

[proud plume]

no healing no tools no nothing and only 3 silk

[crude drift]

._.

[proud plume]

and diff moveset

[crude drift]

Doesn’t that mean no spells too?

[weak depot]

no crest too

[fading fog]

So, get all masks you can and needle upgrades.

Yes, no spells.

[proud plume]

only clawline stuff like that

[fading fog]

I would consider using clawline, it works as a attack.

[raw pawn]

This mod sounds cool but I rarely use architect

[fading fog]

Same, I had mainly used hunter, wanderer and reaper crests.

[weak depot]

Holy pogos bro

[proud plume]

Is it possible to get faydown cloath with no clawline?

[crude drift]

Maybe

I doubt it though

[exotic dome]

it is

you can get it with sharpdart

[proud plume]

oh yea

[exotic dome]

it's pretty tricky tho

[hybrid flare]

Mio is questionable, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I CANT HEAL WITH CRYSTALLISED NACRE?

[lofty bough]

How to get much much aura in sk: first, aura

[potent vessel]

yes

you gotta use sharpdart and some cocoon skips tho

[plush hornet]

is it possible to get faydown cloak
with no other abilities

[proud plume]

so its act 1 possible then

[plush hornet]

no dash and sprint
cling
grapple
silksoar
nothin

[analog mist]

Is it just me or is sylphsong way easier to get than fucking salubra's blessing

Especially when you avoid using memory lockets on hunters crest

[fading fog]

That and it's not annoying like salubra's is.

[analog mist]

True

[fading fog]

I mean, I have always grabbed the lockets for all crests, because of 100&'ing it, ofc, Hunter is good, when upgraded.

[crude drift]

Kinda weird how there’s so many mothers in Silksong, Moss mother, Grand Mother Silk, Brood mother— and I bet Herrah is mentioned somewhere

[fading fog]

It is a bit odd, with mother being used a lot in SS.

[hybrid flare]

as if motherhood isnt a big theme of the game

[crude drift]

It is?

[wind mulch]

there arent any themes

[hybrid flare]

[hybrid flare]

Yeah..? i mean parenting in general

[wind mulch]

themes and such...

[crude drift]

Cool

[rotund gate]

Bug Fables

[rotund gate]

theres literally a character called “GRAND MOTHER SILK” ffs 🙏

[dreamy oar]

anyone know if silksong is on sale anywhere

[rotund gate]

idk

[dreamy oar]

i got 20 bucks but not enough for tax

[fiery burrow]

It goes on sale during the big steam ones

[dreamy oar]

i know but i dont know when the next sale is

[fiery burrow]

june 25

[dreamy oar]

first i had to wait 5 monthes for tomodachi life and now this. its over for me

[fiery burrow]

😔

[steep jolt]

brood mother

father of the flame

craw father

[rotund gate]

does that really count

[exotic dome]

grand father plasmium

[rotund gate]

its a tree.. 😭

[light swan]

daughter of hallownest

[steep jolt]

he birthed the fire guys maybe im not too informed in cult lore

[light swan]

daughter of three queens

[steep jolt]

sister of the void

white lady

[graceful oyster]

How long will it take for me to beat Nog hitless

[light swan]

lace, phantom, hornet under gms

[rotund gate]

did they??

[light swan]

6 hours or 2 hours

[steep jolt]

i dunno

[graceful oyster]

(imprecise parries not counted)

[rotund gate]

Who

[graceful oyster]

Nog

[steep jolt]

illusion2 do you think you can beat this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hoscjy4ilk (bad quality is a glitch)

[rotund gate]

Who the hell is Nog bro

[graceful cairn]

😨

[graceful oyster]

Boss from Nine Sols

[rotund gate]

Oh ok

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gd-geometry-dash-cube-reference-funny-gif-8757531089775734098

[rose flax]

i wonder if PK could fly like radiance and GMS

[high zinc]

probably, wyrms are cousins of dragons i think

[rose flax]

but can he fly in bug form

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-davenport-iowa-bullshit-spotted-gif-1782415751321288438

[high zinc]

so thats how he gets past the buzzsaws

[rose flax]

or he just makes himself a pale nail and pogos

[light swan]

i dont think i’d want to, probabky with a lot of time tho

[high zinc]

sonn

[rose flax]

holy shit

the understimulation of the void combined with the overstimulation of a completely rainbow background

[rocky jolt]

did this actually happen in Davenport, Iowa

[steep jolt]

im trying to nerf whatever the fuck this is

[rose flax]

no it happened in OHIO BOIIII ✌️ 😂

(please euthanize me)

[high zinc]

decrease the frequency of the void shots

[rose flax]

just delete it

[high zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/zarlie-zirk-gif-9277731991787754864

[rose flax]

epic embed fail

[high zinc]

ikr

[high zinc]

i didn't know that ended up happening

[rose flax]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-emdeb-fail-failure-cat-gif-16703817715131368982

[high zinc]

[high zinc]

wait a second

[rose flax]

what

[steep jolt]

when the holy light lowk calling to you

[rose flax]

the radiance escaped the void and migrated to pharloom

hornet dont fucking touch it

[high zinc]

nothin

[high zinc]

what am i gonna do, lick the sun?

[rose flax]

hornet isnt made of void and is actively shown to be aversely affected by it

therefore she can be infected by the radiance

[wind mulch]

shes too locked in for that

[high zinc]

Pale being but not with the ying and yang void and soul stuff

[rose flax]

she probably only resisted it for so long in HK because her influence was concentrated over so vast a kingdom along with her pale heritage making her built different

[wind mulch]

kind of like the mantises

[rose flax]

but i reckon if she directly fought the radiance she could be infected if she failed

[steep jolt]

what happens when you spam 20 spool frags btw

[high zinc]

wait does that mean that void infected soul master is the strongest

[wind mulch]

who

[rose flax]

well im pretty sure normal bug soul and pale being soul is different

[high zinc]

oh

[rose flax]

the spells used by soul sanctum bugs is kinda a different color

[high zinc]

orange because of infection, right?

[rose flax]

the soul of TK, PV, and probably PK are all pure white

hmm but also the snail shamans have pure white soul

[wind mulch]

i think its more their spells are very unrefined

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-woody-cursed-woody-ill-kill-you-buzz-gif-18235063723442814759

ts so scary

[rose flax]

who even are the snail shamans

[steep jolt]

shaw man

[rose flax]

my personal theory is that theyre some type of void beings or atleast closely tied

[high zinc]

old rich family

[wind mulch]

snails

[rose flax]

maybe somewhat like the collector?

pure black body, white eyes

[exotic dome]

void projectile attack should be spit out from 4 diagonal sides

[steep jolt]

the collector is a failed kingsmould

[steep jolt]

i dont think i can do that, im nerfing it tho

[strange knot]

I don’t think they are exactly void or smt like that, but their species are definitely related to void

[high zinc]

i think they could be closer related to the ancient void civilization like primal aspids stopped evolving in kingdoms edge

[rose flax]

but it also has a voice and a mind

[high zinc]

like an offshoot that didn't evolve of void people

[high zinc]

soul?