sk-discussion

[hybrid flare]

If you facetank yeah but not rlly

[placid citrus]

it would be if it was good

[heavy minnow]

It is

[toxic vigil]

depends how much you use the silk skills..

[proud plume]

i use it allot and its way more than 20%

[heavy minnow]

If you got a wall you can just farm silk and heal

[placid citrus]

nah

[heavy minnow]

Thats how i got the true ending

[hybrid flare]

also niche

usually its better to swing your nail lmfao

[placid citrus]

uh not rlly

[hybrid flare]

Yeah

[hearty wren]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-the-knight-roaring-knight-knight-black-knife-gif-8688560492526146057

[hybrid flare]

it really is, unless architect but that's kinda the whole point of the crest

[placid citrus]

a lot of tools do way more dmg than ur nail

[hearty wren]

F this guy

[subtle lynx]

nope

[drowsy hazel]

Def not.

[hybrid flare]

on one instance and their usage is limited

[proud plume]

oh ok

[subtle lynx]

you can avoid interacting with bosses by using red tools

[heavy minnow]

You litterally cant die

[subtle lynx]

as I said, I already do that with lost garmond

[buoyant pumice]

imo red tools are good and reasonable, i think architect just makes them feel like easy mode

[heavy minnow]

You get hit? You heal
You hit? You heal

[subtle lynx]

I never hit him

[hybrid flare]

you still need to dodge the boss lmfao, you can kill it from afar sure

[drowsy hazel]

Sure, but you're using intended in-game mechanics so it's not cheating.

[toxic vigil]

cough volt vessels cough

nah

[orchid spruce]

this area is actually pretty okay, just mildly annoying

[placid citrus]

pimpillos deal like 50 dmg, volt vessels do 70, the curvesicle has insane dps if u spam it a lot

[subtle lynx]

no you don't for the most part, and if you can't stay away from a boss while spamming tools then don't even bother playing this game dude

avoiding bosses and enemies attacks is just half of the combat

[toxic vigil]

volt vessels do 90

[hearty wren]

Fuck pollip pouch

[subtle lynx]

you're ignoring the other half

[heavy minnow]

Then the groal cheese is not cheating?

[exotic cedar]

The bosses deserve it

[buoyant pumice]

volt vessels are fine

[hearty wren]

Pollip pouch is ass

[toxic vigil]

the bolas, not spear

[placid citrus]

since when

[hybrid flare]

you do need to be precise with voltvessels and a nailswing does like 30 i think?

[placid citrus]

max nail does 21

[peak nymph]

beast creast is the best it's the most op

[keen solstice]

It's very mediocre compared to others

[placid citrus]

ah the orbs

[toxic vigil]

hunter is better

[hybrid flare]

You also dont gather soul with tools

[drowsy hazel]

Cheesing is cheesing, not cheating. Cheating would be like using mods, hacks, etc. Cheesing is exploiting game mechanics or bugs to win cheaply.

[buoyant pumice]

ehhh on paper bolas can do 90, but rarely do so in practice

you’re more likely to either whiff one of them or have a boss duck out before you get max damage

[keen solstice]

Opposite.
Red tools are broken no matter the crest

[placid citrus]

you don't need soul when u kill bosses in 5 seconds

[peak nymph]

after the sole exception of the architech creast

[toxic vigil]

well usually its 80 / 85 bc they won't get contact damage

[hybrid flare]

you dont kill bosses in 5 secs without a very specific setup with architect

[peak nymph]

with the sole exception of satoro gojo

[placid citrus]

you don't need architect for any red tool setups

[keen solstice]

You can't die even more with beast and red tools just relete the boss

[toxic vigil]

red tools are just kinda stupid

[buoyant pumice]

Eh, the limited quantity adds a limitation to them outside of Architect builds, and misusing your tools can lead to you wasting them.

I think there’s a fair bit of skill expression in red tools, and labeling them as brain dead slop is reductive

[keen solstice]

Red tools need a nerf

[strange knot]

Don’t insult my goats I definitely use them like it’s intended definitely

[peak nymph]

i don't like the idea of slots i liked hollow knight charms system better cuase over charmed

[hybrid flare]

flintslate and flea brew are like, the only optimal tools for beast

[placid citrus]

voltpogos>>>>

[buoyant pumice]

let me have act 3 snare setter team cherry please i beg

[keen solstice]

There's no skill expression in throwing votl vessels the moment the boss spawns and remove their entire hp bar

[strange knot]

I love volt pogos

[keen solstice]

No?

[peak nymph]

it's a single player game u can be op and u can also be weak

[strange knot]

My fav thing about the game fr

[subtle lynx]

I don't like that in my hunter crest I can't use 2 slots because I don't feel like cheating (using red tools)

[buoyant pumice]

at most you remove 1/5 or a 1/4

[toxic vigil]

flea brew dosen't even work with beast fury

[subtle lynx]

still no skill expression even if that was true

[keen solstice]

Voltvessels deal 600-800 minimum at the start of the fight, most bosses don't have that much hp

[placid citrus]

where r all the guys with all the clips when u need em

[hybrid flare]

Its literally more viable to swing and gather soul for the bind

[strange knot]

With all crafting kits you remove most of hp

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/groalskip-bilewater-silksong-gif-6731360718331877033

Only thing reds are good for btw

[toxic vigil]

i like flintslate a lot

[buoyant pumice]

ah yes because you’re absolutely hitting max damage with all your volt vessel bolas

[subtle lynx]

https://youtu.be/E7AmT_p8Pcc?si=i1IDzF0WiOLpcBcV

[toxic vigil]

yeah

[keen solstice]

You're gonna still kill slower than using voltvessels and curveclaws

[placid citrus]

CINEMA

[keen solstice]

You very much are going to do so lmao

[buoyant pumice]

that was sarcasm but eh whatever

[keen solstice]

Have you tried using them?

[toxic vigil]

i know, and you failed

[hybrid flare]

curveclaws mostly work on large hitbox enemies to hit more than once and voltvessels need setup and you have to know how to use em

[subtle lynx]

not cheating btw

[buoyant pumice]

i think reducing any mechanic of a game to “cheating” is lwk childish

[subtle lynx]

fair and balanced

[strange knot]

Can’t find my statue skip gif here’s better groal skip

[peak nymph]

WITH THE SOLE EXCEPTION OF GOJO SATORU

[opaque sigil]

just delete silksong

[keen solstice]

What even is that supposed to mean

[subtle lynx]

idk neither

[buoyant pumice]

true, games just slop they ruined it with red tools and architect

[placid citrus]

yo cleannn

[toxic vigil]

snare setter can just be
340

[peak nymph]

idk it funny to me a jujustu ref

[subtle lynx]

no, red tool and architect users are ruining it to themselves

[proud plume]

is weaver silkshot good?

[strange knot]

Lwk snare setter is a really fun tool

[tight viper]

It’s alright

[toxic vigil]

snare setter is very fun yeah

[strange knot]

I love it it’s fun

[buoyant pumice]

yeah but it’s cheating

[drowsy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[keen solstice]

If you mean the reaper gif with pollip and cogflies
You're using the worst crest and worst blue tool alongside a decent red tool

[placid citrus]

ye it's an alright tool

[toxic vigil]

best silkshot but its okay

i mean worst blue is wispfire lantern
literally nerfs you ( so does polip pouch on 2 reds )

[opaque sigil]

uh oh you said you like using a tool now 200 people who do nothing but play hitless needle 0 all day are gonna come scream at you for playing the game wrong

[peak nymph]

no body uses reaper
i rather use the wanderer

[strange knot]

Pimpillos drill snare setter volt balls if volt pogo weaver silk shot are all so fun ngl

[keen solstice]

Wispfire is still better than pollop

[tight viper]

Worst blue tool is Druid’s Eye

[buoyant pumice]

big fan of snare setter, been using it for my second run

[peak nymph]

nah

[tight viper]

Singular

[drowsy hazel]

Reaper is just a crutch for beginners.

[toxic vigil]

literally negative silk vs 6 dmg every 10 years

[keen solstice]

You'd be surprised how many people defent reaper

[subtle lynx]

the goat

[opaque sigil]

reaper isn't a crutch it's a trap

[placid citrus]

bro we enjoy snare setter it's peak

[tight viper]

Not plural, singular. The non-upgrade version

[keen solstice]

Negative silk but you gain 17 dmg every 20seconds

[peak nymph]

reaper is just a cool name but no action

[subtle lynx]

(nobody cared)

[toxic vigil]

yeah thats not worth

[tight viper]

Druids Eyes is fine, Druids Eye is dogshit

[strange knot]

Oh my god how dare you defend the crest you like using unbelievable

[tight viper]

Y’all gotta read before you write

[buoyant pumice]

Yeah but it’s still better than wispfire

[drowsy hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735167583065735168/1434455718269943889/VID_20251031_232704.gif

[keen solstice]

Never said it is, but it's better than completely consuming a blue slot just to paint shit purple

[toxic vigil]

Reasons why snare setter is peak:
number 1: FUCK UNRAVELED

[tight viper]

It isn’t

Wispfire can do something

[peak nymph]

i hate my car but i still use it

[toxic vigil]

ui meant its not worth the negative silk
well both are bottom 2 so

[hybrid flare]

rune rage is peak it shreds unravelled and groal every 8 casts or so

[strange knot]

I like snare setter I made a whole playthrough with it still not finished shaking my head

[peak nymph]

^^

[placid citrus]

y no bind

[buoyant pumice]

burn your silk for 20 damage

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/snare-setter-silksong-hunters-march-karmelita-skip-gif-2857707459481665153

[tight viper]

Druids Eye forces you to lose 2 masks for 1 single strand of silk

[placid citrus]

inv drop my beloved

[hybrid flare]

delvers drill is so peak

[exotic dome]

welcome back inv drop

[strange knot]

Truke

[peak nymph]

it's cause of the new blue hands video???
cause i can pogo the balls

[tight viper]

Weavelight exists, and that’s not bad. Threadstorm does like 90ish for 4 silk

[buoyant pumice]

Makes me so sad that wispfire sucks bc I think Father of the Flame is cool as hell

[peak nymph]

the name is cool the fight idk

[strange knot]

Yeah snare drop is so cool

[tight viper]

17 damage in expunge for a strand of silk is fine, especially considering that damage can set the target on fire

[placid citrus]

no snare setter has been peak ever since voltpogos were discovered a couple of months ago

[tight viper]

It can miss, yes, but it’s still better than the singular Druids Eye

[buoyant pumice]

The fact that this thing needs Weavelight to not destroy your playstyle is a mark against it

[peak nymph]

idk man pimpollo pogo with nails is looking fine as well

[orchid spruce]

Fucking god, finally a really good boss but then it summons adds

[peak nymph]

i m just joking

[orchid spruce]

Burn in the pit of hell

[tight viper]

It doesn’t destroy your playstyle without weavelight, weavelight just makes it easier to incorporate into a build

[toxic vigil]

fuck you unraveled, get tacked

[strange knot]

Pimp pogo kinda sucks but I mean, it’s ok I guess

[drowsy hazel]

The best boss in the game summons ads.

[peak nymph]

what doesn't summon adds on silksong

[buoyant pumice]

I think the atmosphere and vibe are sick as hell, fight is unfortunately kinda annoying

[orchid spruce]

So stupid

[trim estuary]

CRAWFATHER MENTIONED‼️

[placid citrus]

idk if there's a single person who does pimpillo pogos ngl

[drowsy hazel]

Savage Beastfly.

[peak nymph]

tas

[buoyant pumice]

none of the Lace fights do this (my glorious queen Lace)

[tight viper]

Best boss in the game is Palestag

[peak nymph]

i wanna see a tas run

[hybrid flare]

i am COMING for YOU

[sinful yarrow]

GOD THE PARKOUR IN THIS GAME MAKES ME WANT TO DO THINGS ITS SO FUCKING SATISFYING

[strange knot]

There is one person not sure it’s ok to ping them

[placid citrus]

tas runs haven't had time to cook yet, we're still discovering a lot of new tech

[drowsy hazel]

Palestag is so overhated.

[sinful yarrow]

SOMEONE KILL ME NOW

[hybrid flare]

which one

[trim estuary]

Omw

[exotic dome]

crawfather!!!!!!!!

[buoyant pumice]

Volt Vessel spam on Palestag is ethical and mandatory

[subtle lynx]

Raging conchfly the goat

[placid citrus]

craazy lol

[tight viper]

Funny deer that is carefree and joyful

[subtle lynx]

Though his summons don't really count as summons

[tight viper]

Palestag is my friend I think she is cool

[exotic dome]

underhated

[strange knot]

Pretty sure it’s this guy

[drowsy hazel]

Do people nowadays move the lilypad or no?

[subtle lynx]

I envy her

She deserves to die

[still osprey]

No we just throw voltvessels into the water and watch her explode

[placid citrus]

hmm i don't think i've seen em around unless they changed their name at some point

[exotic dome]

it doesnt matter bro

[orchid spruce]

||the water guy||

[supple reef]

[strange knot]

I remember them using pimp pogos for act 1 bilewater and smt in Mount Fay iirc

[hybrid flare]

Oh the summons for that one arent that bad

[subtle lynx]

Who is the water guy

[strange knot]

They haven’t been chatting here in a while or at least I didn’t see them

[orchid spruce]

Adds = Slop

[buoyant pumice]

lwk some stinkers in the Silksong boss lineup but I think the highs of the boss roster definitely make up for the lows

[orchid spruce]

Stop throwing adds at me, devs. I love your boss as it is.

Stop self-sabotage

[strange knot]

Not always imo you could do adds well

[subtle lynx]

I LOVE these screenshots

[drowsy hazel]

This is why I don't use Discord.

[tight viper]

I just do this tbh

[placid citrus]

nah some bosses do need some ads to spice things up

[subtle lynx]

They are actually so funny

[toxic vigil]

just throw volt bolas into the water

[tight viper]

nah

[subtle lynx]

Why did they have to name them bolas

That's just a way to refer to testicles

So nasty team cherry

[toxic vigil]

Honestly

1. architect
   2-5. hunter / reaper / beast / witch
2. wanderer
3. shaman
   free crest tierlist

[drowsy hazel]

This would be even better if you move the lilypad since Palestag movement is more restricted.

[tight viper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas

[placid citrus]

should've just named them balls smh

[subtle lynx]

Those are call boleadoras

[drowsy hazel]

Steel Ball Run?!

[tight viper]

No way for me to safely move the lilypad

[subtle lynx]

Nobody calls them bolas

[subtle lynx]

They should

[toxic vigil]

anyways did the pantheon of pharloom mod.
did the first 3 pantheons

[drowsy hazel]

Before the fight starts.

[subtle lynx]

They wanted to be quirky or stb

[buoyant pumice]

Kinda sucks that the steel soul exclusive boss sucks but I understand why it had to, bc a run back of two whole acts of the game is insane

[tight viper]

I mean they clearly do call them bolas

Both bolas and boleadoras works

[placid citrus]

it isn't locked behind act 2 afaik

[tight viper]

Bolas is just shorter

[subtle lynx]

I've never met someone that called them that, though it is not a common topic I must say

[hybrid flare]

they dont call em bolas because for us spanish speakers its a slang

[patent cosmos]

Who wants to hear my Ass Jim impression

[placid citrus]

me

[subtle lynx]

A slang? Is it like calc? (Short for calculator)

[tight viper]

Maybe it's not called bolas in Spanish-speaking places, could only be an English term or something

[buoyant pumice]

nah, at least one of the rest areas spawns somewhere in act 2 (ducts, high halls, karak)

[placid citrus]

cinema

[patent cosmos]

Thanks

[toxic vigil]

man
they should nerf all red tools by like 20%

[hybrid flare]

vulgar way of saying something like (shit = thing)

[placid citrus]

np bro, it was a praise worthy performance

[orchid spruce]

Not this one. Also, just make better bosses if the boss is so boring it needs adslop to make the player use any neuron

[sinful yarrow]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN BELLHART STOP WITH THE FUCKING BREAKING FLOORS

[patent cosmos]

Anyways yuri time

[tight viper]

Fight starts soon as the arena loads because of the Pantheon of Pharloom mod

[placid citrus]

aren't there 3 spawn locations in act 1 or am i tweaking?

[drowsy hazel]

That is not what slang means.

[toxic vigil]

btw i make this list of what i think is " realistic " damage values for red tools ( single target except shakra's rings )

[placid citrus]

nah i can appreciate some good adslop

[toxic vigil]

also flea brew is too high, ignore it

[hybrid flare]

enlighten me then

[buoyant pumice]

there are, however there’s also three in act 2, and the game always picks one of the ones in Act 2

[tight viper]

There are, but only 2/3 of them are used at max

[orchid spruce]

the only good adslop i've ever seen is raging conchfly, which is arguably one of the silksong's best bosses

[placid citrus]

ah

[hybrid flare]

good boss but nowhere near the top

[fiery burrow]

I think Sister Splinter and Lost Kin use adds in a way that add to their fight

[placid citrus]

that one isn't even adslop ngl

[fiery burrow]

While still having an interesting moveset

[orchid spruce]

it's near the top by the virtue of being a good boss in a game with too many mid and bad bosses

[drowsy hazel]

Oh, I am behind the times since I haven't played in like 5-6 months, the Godhome mod I used just teleports you near the boss.

[orchid spruce]

[patent heath]

Sister Splinter does NOT have an interesting moveset, Star.

[exotic dome]

raging conchfly and crawfather are solid b tier fights

[placid citrus]

i agree

[hybrid flare]

crawfather

[patent heath]

Lost Kin, yes. But Splinter definitely does not.

[fiery burrow]

I mean she's fine

[tight viper]

I hate Sister Splinter

[fiery burrow]

Got a good variety of attacks for an early game boss

[sinful yarrow]

Sister splinter was great

[drowsy hazel]

It doesn't have to be vulgar. "Slay" or "rizz" counts as slang even if they aren't vulgar.

[fiery burrow]

I don't even remember crawfather's fight ngl

[hybrid flare]

they are somewhat vulgar

[hybrid flare]

he's neat

[fiery burrow]

I only know him as the guy with the most aura

[drowsy hazel]

How? Is "no cap" also vulgar?

[exotic dome]

spinderous spiderling

[hybrid flare]

garmond parrying any damage=

[patent heath]

Bro she's got like, 2. That downslash and the vines.

[placid citrus]

they ain't vulgar bro

[patent heath]

Excluding her summons.

[hybrid flare]

Not like vulgar vulgar but not the most formal way of saying it

[fiery burrow]

Don't forget the stagger

[patent heath]

You cannot possibly call that an attack. 😭

[placid citrus]

well yeah it's slang, it's not supposed to be formal

[drowsy hazel]

Informal, yes.

[hybrid flare]

ye thats what i meant my bad

[fiery burrow]

3 attacks with an interesting gimmick and adds is fine imo

[stoic sigil]

Sigh

[orchid spruce]

if this adslop is genuinely blasphemous 2's peak, i'm going to crash out

this is not the ||half-eigong|| i was promised (nine sols spoiler)

[stoic sigil]

Can the mods release Sea of Sorrows already

[hybrid flare]

the moveset is centered around the adds its mostly zoning

[stoic sigil]

We all know they have all the power

[hybrid flare]

Nah odon's def one of the weaker bosses

[placid citrus]

it's coming out tmr

[fiery burrow]

Absolutely mogs Isma from pale court

[orchid spruce]

thank god

[patent heath]

I mean, yeah. The fight is serviceable enough.
But I very much disagree with her having an interesting moveset. Without her summons, she'd be nothing.

[hybrid flare]

lwk the worst fight in pale court

she's annoying as fuck

[fiery burrow]

true

[hybrid flare]

the best one is ironically isma n ogrimm imo

[fiery burrow]

Isma is what you get when sister splinter has a more complex moveset

[stoic sigil]

Pale Court is fanslop....

[hybrid flare]

Yes but it has surprisingly good bosses

[exotic dome]

pale court fights look uninteresting tbh

[fiery burrow]

Hegemol Dryya and Ze'mer are all great

[tight viper]

Mystic Ze’mer is peak

[hybrid flare]

Driya is pv if pv was good

[patent heath]

Genuinely the only good bosses for me were both the Ze'Mers.

[tight viper]

Dryya is pretty fun after the update

Hegemol is fine

[patent heath]

I disliked everything else because it just felt like DDark spam.

[stoic sigil]

I hated Ze'mer actually

[tight viper]

Ok Traitor Lord

[hybrid flare]

i actually interacted with the boss in more ways than shadow cloacking her the whole time that's crazy

[stoic sigil]

It's just rehashed Melania

[patent heath]

Tbh, second fight of Ze'Mer also kinda is.

[hybrid flare]

whos melania

[fiery burrow]

Pale Court bosses are all designed with shade cloak iframes in mind so you don't have to ddark spam

[placid citrus]

malenia my goat

[patent heath]

When did this update occur?

[fiery burrow]

Silksong fanbosses take notes..

[hybrid flare]

or malenia my favourite wasted potential

[stoic sigil]

The Blade of Miquella

[orchid spruce]

I know for sure Mystic Z'mer is a really good fight because an ||Eigong|| enthusiast I know loves her (nine sols spoilers)

[tight viper]

Can’t remember when exactly but it was a while after the mod was released, it added a stagger to her fight

[hybrid flare]

all of malenia's factors culminate into the single worst attack in the game

[patent heath]

Have you played the AbsBad in Silksong mod?

[placid citrus]

one of the best bosses in gaming (imo)

[tight viper]

Or revamped an existing stagger, can’t remember

[patent heath]

Lowkey Hornet mogs Rad.

[tight viper]

But it made the fight better

[stoic sigil]

I want the final boss of Sea of Sorrows to be a 1;1 of Promised Consort Radahn

[fiery burrow]

I don't think AbsRad would be that interesting with Hornet's moveset ngl

[patent heath]

I ask because I played the mod for the first time just last year.

[hybrid flare]

She's not in my top 5, not even in elden ring only

she's too burdened by her flaws

[patent heath]

So are we equating praise for Hornet = Kratt now?

[sinful yarrow]

I can't find the bell in bellhart am I unable to do this one yet??

[buoyant pumice]

i’m pretty sure there’s a video of someone out there doing that

[placid citrus]

she's def in my top 5

[tight viper]

You probably played the mod after Dryya was updated then

[exotic dome]

true i tried it

[stoic sigil]

THAT BOY HORNET HAS CROSS-STITCH? I BETTER KEEP MY ASS IN HOLLOW KNIGHT, OR IM FINISHED!

[orchid spruce]

Is eggslop in top 5

[patent heath]

You can do it too by downloading the mod.

[sinful yarrow]

No bellhart

[tight viper]

Then again I don’t know timelines

[fiery burrow]

DDark is better

[tight viper]

I just know the fight is good

[hybrid flare]

top 3 or 4 in overalls

[orchid spruce]

[exotic dome]

cross stitch

[orchid spruce]

eggslop supremacy

[patent heath]

It's not that different from base HK.

[exotic dome]

it's pretty unfitting

[buoyant pumice]

sharp dart

[placid citrus]

it would be cuz circlet tech melts, or even tool spam

[buoyant pumice]

wdym no

[fiery burrow]

No quickslash or sbody 😔

[patent heath]

I did with Hunter and Shaman.

[orchid spruce]

anyways, time to beat this adslop

[patent heath]

Which is why I said Hornet mogs.

[buoyant pumice]

i mean i assume radiance gets mogged in a similar way to GMS

[patent heath]

Like. TK at the end of HK is genuinely super overpowered. But Hornet is honestly even more overpowered at the end of SS.

[hybrid flare]

Things that waterfowl can do

• Instakill the average build by that point if you get caught by one flurry and take some hits from the next
• Inflict the 2nd worst debuff in the game (2nd phase)
• Give malenia hyperarmor
• Travel through the entire arena
• heal malenia

[placid citrus]

clawline and circlet tech spam ftw

[buoyant pumice]

dodge

[patent heath]

I meant overpowered moveset wise.

Story wise, it's TK that's more OP. With Voidheart and whatnot.

[fiery burrow]

elden ring bosses so mid they had to mod a monster hunter boss into the game to actually have fun with the combat system 🥱

[placid citrus]

i think that's more for like new players, i delve into a bit of no hitting so all of those aren't a problem for me

[hybrid flare]

Also dodging it is unintuitive as fuck

[hybrid flare]

BAYLEEEEEE, CURSE YOU BAYLEEE, TERROR INCARNATE

[patent heath]

Oh. I mean, you can just download the mod. But I guess she'll need to break the seal on THK first and then stagger it and then perform Elegy Of The Deep.

[buoyant pumice]

you say this as if the Monster Hunter Fanbase isn’t endlessly angry about any game past GenUltimate

[hybrid flare]

monster hunter bosses if i could use my eyes to see shit

[patent heath]

Mf just Architect or Shaman spam.

[placid citrus]

eh sure but once u figure it out it's not rlly a problem to consistently avoid it

[fiery burrow]

I'm not though

[hybrid flare]

it requires you to do ten handstands and 12 backflips, then dodge twice to fully dodge

[buoyant pumice]

just chuck a frostbite pot at her

[patent heath]

Elegy isn't exactly past versions. But yeah, probably.

[placid citrus]

me when i run 1 step backwards and jump:

[fiery burrow]

World is fine Rise is great Wilds is fine and like the subreddit has a lot of grumpy old gens but I think the general consensus is that all of them are great games (performance aside)

[opaque sigil]

Something something 3

[hybrid flare]

wilds the pc breaker

it was wilds right?

[buoyant pumice]

eh, my dismay towards the overtuning of certain TU monsters is still a thing

[opaque sigil]

TUs are terrible

[hybrid flare]

i tried n ate all of it

[fiery burrow]

Yeah true

[patent heath]

I guess.

[hybrid flare]

and her 2nd phase wings also just make seeing what she does harder

[placid citrus]

u have to time it when she's close, u can either jump or roll both work and she stops tracking

[opaque sigil]

(Specifically the pre MR ones)

The post Mr ones are fine

[fiery burrow]

Anyway MHGU is mid

The One Piece of Monster Hunter

[hybrid flare]

is this intuitive chat

I also just can't fathom how elden ring has one good dragon boss and one mid dragon boss

[buoyant pumice]

I mean, in Malenia’s defense she’s not meant to be easy. She’s meant to be hard as shit. She’s a boss you have to go incredibly out of the way to seek out.

[placid citrus]

i'll always h8 on placi that boss is ass

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but giving her bs isnt it

[exotic dome]

fromsoft can make a good draagon boss?

[hybrid flare]

i don't think placi is ass but def underwhelming and kinda boring

[buoyant pumice]

I think the only BS about Malenia is the heal on hit

[hybrid flare]

Bayle is amazing on the other hand though

[hybrid flare]

I dont have a problem with it, i only really complain about waterfowl and the wings

[opaque sigil]

healing on blocking sucks healing on hit alone is... fine

[hybrid flare]

placi has like 2 good attacks

[orchid spruce]

am i having audio issue or does this boss not make some sounds

[placid citrus]

first phase is literally just a dmg sponge and 2nd phase is all spectacle and no bite with tp slop

[orchid spruce]

[buoyant pumice]

that genuinely may just be a skill issue

[hybrid flare]

the claws are fun

[hybrid flare]

Average fromslop fan argument

it does too much shit and genuinely throws you off

[opaque sigil]

waterfowl is fun to dodge but its existence makes the fight's tempo awkward

[hybrid flare]

the entirety of your malenia run will be hoping that she doesnt waterfowl at the wrong time

[opaque sigil]

it's really not that hard to play around

[placid citrus]

i mean waterfowl dance hate is understandable, i think it's rlly fun to dodge but it is a matter of opinion and not fact yk

[hybrid flare]

It is quite weird to learn

and literally just one taps you sometimes

[opaque sigil]

she should just do it at phase transitions

[buoyant pumice]

silksong in the silksong chat

[placid citrus]

ye there are a lot of ways to avoid it nowadays

[hybrid flare]

aeonia:

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-whitaker-the-pitt-wednesday-sparkle-on-sparkly-gif-12262569127339208782

Whitaker wednesdayers we flying round the moon today

[placid citrus]

i think it works fine

[buoyant pumice]

what about it

[hybrid flare]

aeonia's a good phase transitioner imo

[keen solstice]

Though funny enough tu monsters are still less overtuned than 9 5 gore magala in wilds

[placid citrus]

as it is

[buoyant pumice]

Steve and Lagi have given me more trouble than Gore ever has

[opaque sigil]

the fact that a fun and interesting attack ends up only working fine is the problem

[keen solstice]

Steve is very easy though and lagi isn't really much trouble aside from underwater

[hybrid flare]

i really hate the fact that the 2nd phase makes the attack apply rot

[keen solstice]

Gore on the other hand never stops moving

[hybrid flare]

if the attack itself didnt kill you off the rot will

[opaque sigil]

by the time you reach phase 2 waterfowl isn't hitting you anymore

[placid citrus]

i think the problem is the entire fight revolves around u being prepared to dodge that attack at any moment, it lacks predictability

[buoyant pumice]

Also kinda agree with the opinion that Wilds is so much harder if you’re playing a weapon that you can’t block

[hybrid flare]

Not at all lmfao, i find the fight very easy except the one attack

[opaque sigil]

yes which is why I suggested it could only be used at certain health values

[buoyant pumice]

Isn’t that most boss fights in fromsoft tho, being prepared to dodge an attack that can come out and kill you

[hybrid flare]

im no-hitting the boss till she pulls out the big E of elden ring attacks

[keen solstice]

Not quite actually unless ur playin HH or hammer

[fickle valley]

I’m at 4 hours and 14 minutes and i’m at ||Grand Mother Silk||, if i lose this i’m going to silk myself

[buoyant pumice]

poor hammer mains man

[placid citrus]

yeah but malenia's whole fight revolves around that 1 attack, unlike other bosses

[fickle valley]

😭

[hybrid flare]

True

Waterfowl dodging simulator

[keen solstice]

Db dodge iframee are stupid and ls/swaxe can chain counters

[eager creek]

45 minutes to beat the easiest boss in the game

[placid citrus]

i think that trivializes it too much IMO

[fickle valley]

True but it’s slightly harder with only 5 health

[hybrid flare]

ehh not really, it still skill checks you

[eager creek]

Ah, yea lol

[fiery burrow]

hammer offsets 🤤

[buoyant pumice]

it’s always kinda disappointing how weak GMS is, but I understand why they made her that way because otherwise Cursed Child would be unadulterated agony

[hybrid flare]

i guess its more predictable but you're supposed to run away to dodge the first flurry right?

[orchid spruce]

sure, melania may be waterfowl slop. but does your favourite boss strip and fight naked?

checkmate, chud

[placid citrus]

there are multiple ways to dodge the first flurry but that is one of the ways yes

[hybrid flare]

It does actually

[orchid spruce]

no way

[buoyant pumice]

no unfortunately First Sinner puts clothes on before the fight

[hybrid flare]

orphan is born and straight up runs towards you with the intention of dessacrating you

[placid citrus]

mine doesn't.....

[orchid spruce]

too bad

[hybrid flare]

Technically it doesnt "strip" but ig does fight naked

[placid citrus]

;(

[hybrid flare]

Hold on.. what's your favourite boss?

[keen solstice]

"AAEEAAEAAA"

• orphan of kos the moment he is born and sees you

[placid citrus]

day 1 opp

[hybrid flare]

I absolutely love how the music switches up once the 2nd phase begins

It goes from sadness and confusion to straight up rage

shit does NOT play around

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-gif-21262389

[hybrid flare]

This boss, much like consort radahn, is anti panic rolling

[placid citrus]

oh consort radahn my goat

[hybrid flare]

overhated

[orchid spruce]

i'm just pretending to be a melania glazer for funni

[hybrid flare]

lwk a top 5 elden ring fight

[hybrid flare]

you wouldn't call her melania

[orchid spruce]

i forgor her name

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/dreglord-straghess-traitorous-scythe-slam-gif-14624710507629873426

[placid citrus]

ye agreed, release consort radahn was overhated too, ye the framerate was bad but that's it

[orchid spruce]

my favourite boss is obviously eggslop

🥚

more accurately, promised eggslop

[keen solstice]

This guy literally has an entire combo dedicated for catching panic rollers, but won't hit you even once if you literally stand still lmfao

[hybrid flare]

the release patch attacks were borderline unreactable

[hybrid flare]

malenia

[placid citrus]

fromsoft overthinking their boss design

[hybrid flare]

this is genius if you think about it

[keen solstice]

This guy is arguably the best fromsoft boss actually

[placid citrus]

nah he just had awkward timings for dodges

[hybrid flare]

you had to hug his leg to dodge cross slash reliably

[placid citrus]

ye

[hybrid flare]

No fucking way

I havent played nightreign but no way man

[placid citrus]

i haven't played nightreign so i can't say but he do be looking cinema

[keen solstice]

Fair attacks with great telegraphs while staying extremely aggressive

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but the boss isn't really called orphan of kos is he?

[keen solstice]

Try him

[keen solstice]

He's orphan of kos no2

[placid citrus]

ye i can def see it being their peak but it's hard to top some of er's bosses ngl

[long axle]

this game is hard i can’t beat cogwork dancers i quit

[hybrid flare]

Nightreign wants me.. to drop... 40 bucks.. on a soulslop game.. without an actual story or worldbuilding.. that has NO crossplay?

[keen solstice]

Literally has the same projectile throw LOL

[long axle]

0

[placid citrus]

ggs o7

[hybrid flare]

messmer

[vivid horizon]

Js try more times

[long axle]

no it’s over

[long axle]

thank you

[vivid horizon]

You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take
-Albert einstein or something

[placid citrus]

messmer is peak

[fickle valley]

Okay beated her

[keen solstice]

It's more fun than ER funny enough

[long axle]

time to play more rivals and dbd! 😋

oh my god

[keen solstice]

And it does have an actual story

[long axle]

i can’t take it anymore

[keen solstice]

Just not in the usual fromslop tradition

[hybrid flare]

on replays maybe but thats because the whole point of it kinda is replaying

[hybrid flare]

fr

[opaque sigil]

nr tops messmer pretty soundly with harmonia

[keen solstice]

There's deep of night which is completely randomized

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/desstis-desstis-cloudfarer-raider-of-god-elden-ring-elden-ring-nightreign-gif-8118134594564353555

[placid citrus]

nightreign needs more rng for it to be worth replaying ngl

[hybrid flare]

is harmonia that good or are you just extremely attracted towards eye candy

nightreign needs crossplay so i can play with me buddies

[placid citrus]

i don't think fromsoft is making it crossplay anytime soon

[keen solstice]

Normal balancers are great, everdark balancers are good but in DoN they are a handful

[hybrid flare]

why wouldnt they, multiplayer game WITHOUT crossplay are we deadass

[placid citrus]

do the normal fs games even have crossplay

[opaque sigil]

No

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/balancers-weapon-bequeathed-harmonia-salvations-gif-3764252771850121556

[hybrid flare]

no clue, but multiplayer isnt the focus

[hybrid flare]

is that a fucking zoomed out camera?

[keen solstice]

Yep

[hybrid flare]

no fucking way... they finally learned?

[opaque sigil]

NR makes shit work that had not functioned in any other game

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/balancers-weapon-bequeathed-harmonia-salvations-gif-9341071990703073565

[placid citrus]

they rlly were experimenting with it a lot

[broken seal]

yo tf is Ganon on rn bro

[hybrid flare]

I didnt think it could get flashier than bayle but here we are

[opaque sigil]

Harmonia is a gank boss and it’s one of the best bosses they’ve made

[vivid horizon]

What is this

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/dreglord-straghess-traitorous-pure-impulse-gif-11152346686152012557

[placid citrus]

have u seen the final boss of nr?

[rocky jolt]

thats what i look like irl

[hybrid flare]

Yeah heolstor makes some portal shit

[placid citrus]

yuh

flashy af

[hybrid flare]

literally visual peak

[broken seal]

you should really get that checked out 😭

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-nightlord-elden-ring-nightreign-nightreign-gif-17972346482806198856

[rocky jolt]

but im happy the way i am

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/caligo-fissure-in-the-fog-gif-1265799685279473671

[hybrid flare]

Bayle has the beam thingy thats hard to top off

[placid citrus]

his element combo also looks cool

[hybrid flare]

is nightreign actually a good game

[placid citrus]

it is

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-nightreign-nightreign-dutchess-dodging-elden-ring-dodging-gif-10921662460660040325

[hybrid flare]

or is it whatever bullshit they can throw in without any coherence

[keen solstice]

Very

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/agamatsu-the-voices-deepwoken-gif-26200177

[final mantle]

its sorta fun but it is sorta just filler

[hybrid flare]

oh and they also added some dark souls bosses for good measure

[final mantle]

the dlc is terrible though

[placid citrus]

we don't talk abt the bug boss tho

[opaque sigil]

The nr dlc is great

[keen solstice]

Wdym dlc is peak

[placid citrus]

reworked artorias my beloved

[hybrid flare]

like what is MANUS doing there

[opaque sigil]

Gael isn’t in it

[placid citrus]

i don't think gael is in there

[hybrid flare]

shit mustve been modded

[keen solstice]

Scholar is busted af artorias is great harmonia and straghess are peak the dlc map is a near guaranteed win

[final mantle]

the characters are fun but the actual map is horrific. but imo it actually struggles because the level design is too complex and there just isnt enough time to properly do stuff in a single run

[opaque sigil]

There’s absolutely enough time

[keen solstice]

Uh
The map is a near guaranteed win everytime lol

[final mantle]

that isnt a good thing though

[keen solstice]

There's just so much loot

[hybrid flare]

also elemer just not being able to get staggered is something

[keen solstice]

Drop in kill 1st camp get lvl2 break crystals rush castle etc

[keen solstice]

Yep
Bro just walks at you

[final mantle]

idk im just not the biggest fan of nightreign or its dlc but we all like what we like and thats fine ofc

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/dreglord-straghess-traitorous-pure-impulse-gif-5625153210255712420

[hybrid flare]

Does nightreign have obsidian lamina though?

[keen solstice]

No dlc weapons sadly

[hybrid flare]

I dont want to play anything ER related without bloody helice or obsidian lamina

[opaque sigil]

It doesn’t have sote weapons

[placid citrus]

i hope they take what they saw we liked in nightreign for their next game

[keen solstice]

Bloody helice is there though

[hybrid flare]

oh thats

sweet

[static sluice]

Oh cool i have image perms now

[hybrid flare]

their next game is an exclusive for a terrible console

[placid citrus]

i mean like their actual next game, like soulslop

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, duskbloods is soulslop i think

[violet canopy]

Can I return to the slab with the apostate key in act 3 or should I do it in 2?

[placid citrus]

it's a multiplayer pvpve game

[hybrid flare]

Why would they do that, and why would they make it exclusive

[last marten]

Yall I found a weird bug

[placid citrus]

it's like nightreign, they're experimenting with stuff ig

[opaque sigil]

Fromsoft doesn’t just make souls games

[hybrid flare]

Nothing is locked out i think so you can do it in act 3

[last marten]

Technically it doesn't negatively affect you but it's still kinda weird

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but duskbloods will be smt souls related i think?

[onyx python]

once i got 2 seconds of playtime, i knew that i would never stop wanting to beat all of the team cherry devs to death with hammers

[placid citrus]

ye it's gonna be like a souls game but not like a classic one

[static sluice]

Putrifed ducts is just one big fuck you for the player ever bilewater is better than it

[vivid horizon]

Telepathic dodging

[violet canopy]

I think they finally gave pvp some emphasis

[hybrid flare]

You've already got your 40 euro asset testing slop why delve into multiplayer further

[placid citrus]

bilewater is PEAK

[hybrid flare]

They gutted so many things in elden ring because of pvp..

[placid citrus]

ye they got nightreign for coop and duskbloods for pvp

[static sluice]

Only groal and the stupid worm enemies are bad the rest is very doable

[violet canopy]

I think Elden ring pvp got a lot of potential and could be polished

[hybrid flare]

elden ring is balanced around pvp pretty much

[violet canopy]

You got plenty of busted set ups

[placid citrus]

but there's not much reason to do it, it's not like the dark souls games where u had covenants

[violet canopy]

It’s another mode in the game that can be very popular

[vivid horizon]

Hi guys

[placid citrus]

but not a lot of ppl care for pvp in er from what i've seen

[placid citrus]

yo

[violet canopy]

You would be surprised lol

I met ppl with 5k plus hours in pvp alone

[worthy lintel]

Is it weird to still be at 77% if I have 1028 hours in Silksong

[vivid horizon]

Fake

[hybrid flare]

what the fuck have you been doing

[pallid pine]

Chat i got all the area's i want for now, but i wanna change the names, any idea's

[worthy lintel]

Making mods lol

[violet canopy]

I love er pvp don’t get me wrong but stuff like latency and lags at least can be fixed in the future

[eager creek]

950 afk hours

[vivid horizon]

Fairs

[worthy lintel]

Nah I was making mods the rest of the time

[placid citrus]

yo that's crazy, i don't rlly interact with the pvp community that much, i'm more of a pve guy, i like my no hit runs yk

[rocky jolt]

bro was just bullshittin around all that time

[placid citrus]

omg!!!!!!!!!!1

[eager creek]

That's gotta have a virus or something

[worthy lintel]

Weird new spam bot?

[placid citrus]

nah

[rocky jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1105009859822362714/1197377161338835015/unfathomablyyummy.gif

[exotic dome]

no its real

[placid citrus]

no that's just a person

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[placid citrus]

yo wait you're the architect dev i just noticed

[toxic vigil]

the level creator thing? thats cool!

[placid citrus]

ye

[violet canopy]

I was added to a group of about 30 ppl and around 10-15 are active daily, we still do an occasional tournament and play 2v2 and 3v3 which in my opinion the most fun part about it

[orchid spruce]

this adslop boss is so bad

it could've been an actually fun boss, instead it's just passive slop with the added ads

[placid citrus]

ye i've seen like compilations on yt, it do look cool

[leaden delta]

yea that’s john architect

comet can you add estrogen to your mod. and then to your veins

[placid citrus]

which boss r u fighting btw i wasn't following

[placid citrus]

omg THE john architect?!?!??!

[orchid spruce]

||the water guy||

i won't give him the grace of having his name remembered

[vivid horizon]

5?!?!?

[rocky jolt]

you need absolute unc status for that many

[hybrid flare]

this shit is NOT real

If bloodborne on pc is already optimized like actual shit then this would blow up any phone

[placid citrus]

it's not that it's badly optimized it's just emulation takes a ton of resources

[meager jolt]

WHAT? Haven't seen those!!

They're a top 5 Silksong character for me

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, the emulator is optimized like shit

[placid citrus]

better l8 than never

[meager jolt]

I was at work

[hybrid flare]

someone has been making a 2nd senti skin for 8 months

[placid citrus]

ye phantom has been in the works for a while too

the pv one idk much abt

[hybrid flare]

never seen it+

[placid citrus]

i've seen it on the mod website

[coral cove]

https://x.com/imist214295/status/2038170625764950505?s=46 yeah they’re still in development but here’s one of them

[edgy patio]

which

[vivid belfry]

A surprise fishing game has entered the ring (and I 100%ed poke all toads)

Look Outside is next on my list but it intimidates me

[placid citrus]

the one by cheesynoodles

[edgy patio]

oh yeah that skin, it looks really good

[placid citrus]

ye they're putting a ton of effort into it

[meager jolt]

Looks really good!!

[placid citrus]

i heard they're like gonna reskin phantom to hornet i think, and change all the dialogue so it'd make sense story wise

[edgy patio]

the boss?

[placid citrus]

ye

[potent vessel]

900 hours in the main menu 💔

[worthy lintel]

It's in save slot 2, but it only shows around 100 hours because I always just directly close the game without saving in that slot lol

[edgy patio]

yeah he/she said that he/she will not make hornet as phantom it will be someone else

[placid citrus]

did all of those come out this year

[vivid belfry]

absolutely not

[placid citrus]

o ok

[edgy patio]

it's a secret though

[vivid belfry]

the only ones that came out this year are MIO, demon tides, poke all toads, and bits and bops

[orchid spruce]

I never felt this upset at a boss in Blasphemous 2, when will developers realize fucking no one likes adds

[hybrid flare]

a random ass pilgrim that operated the organ before phantom was there

[vivid belfry]

technically, scarlet hollow and about fishing aren't released yet

[hybrid flare]

struggling are we?

[placid citrus]

that's the only ones i recognised lol

[orchid spruce]

I only had like 8 attempts but it feels like forever

[vivid belfry]

I was not aware that Higurashi was niche

[orchid spruce]

Because I feel the need to rant every 30 seconds because of how stupid it is

[vivid belfry]

I assumed everybody had heard of it

[hybrid flare]

I like that boss unironically

[meager jolt]

Just say they

[orchid spruce]

The last phase it summons like fucking 4 adds

passiveslop

[vivid belfry]

are we talking about Odon

[untold dune]

im just going to assume this is about savage beastfly

[orchid spruce]

the first slop in this game

[placid citrus]

it might not be rlly niche i'm just very mainstream when it comes to games

[hybrid flare]

odon is lwk decent

[vivid belfry]

I like Odon well enough, I'm much less bothered by the adds than the fact that you can't slide through his shockwaves

[orchid spruce]

it's decent if your boss standard is hollow knight

[hybrid flare]

Hollow knight's bosses are generally better than b2's

and i can say that having played quite extensively both

[orchid spruce]

amnesia strikes hard

unless the bosses after this are also slop

[hybrid flare]

when someone has opinions

[placid citrus]

hollow knight has some pretty uninteresting bosses tbf

[hybrid flare]

I like hk's (mostly sk)'s good bosses

[vivid belfry]

the thing is that hollow knight has a bunch of different kinds of bosses that serve different purposes and basically every boss in blasphemous 2 serves the same purpose

blasphemous 2 does not have massive moss chargers but MMC isn't the final encounter of a dedicated dungeon, it's a random asshole that gives you 200 dollars

[crimson widget]

Will silksongs platinum be hard

[exotic dome]

thing is both hk games have a lot of bosses and some of them are mid

[placid citrus]

nah

[hybrid flare]

Kinda like b and b2

I can name a few b2 bosses that just arent it

[crimson widget]

I plated elden ring and hk, will this be a challenge

[hybrid flare]

steel soul maybe

[exotic dome]

but also sk has the most s tier bosses in any game for me

[placid citrus]

u got this, i believe in u bro

[vivid belfry]

blasphemous 2's final dlc boss is piss annoying but nothing will ever approach blasphemous 1's most heinous dlc boss

[exotic dome]

i don't even remember any boss in b1 honestly

[vivid belfry]

Isidora is the nadir of game design

[hybrid flare]

b1 has no bad dlc bosses

ISIDORA? man ts is some crazy take

[vivid belfry]

Isidora is abhorrent

[hybrid flare]

I get it the fire balls in the 2nd phase can be annoying but literally everything else is great

she wouldnt be in my top 3 but shes by no means bad lmfao

[hybrid flare]

the stupid ass spin

[vivid belfry]

yeah man let me just fill the entire screen with planet-sized homing projectiles that can't be dodged through or blocked so you're constantly forced to be in the air which gives you no defensive recourse against the boss's actual attacks

[hybrid flare]

??????????????? they appear like once every 8 secs and they collide with the ground pretty frequently

[vivid belfry]

the stupid ass spin is way worse than isidora's fireballs but the difference is that it's one move in the moveset and not an omnipresent aspect of the second phase

[crimson widget]

I’ll plat ss on steel soul

[hybrid flare]

you need to be a navy seal to ract to the fuckass spin

[crimson widget]

Im determined

[hybrid flare]

the fireballs arent really that bad unless many of them clutter up

[crimson widget]

dont talk about b2, i just started it and defeated the nameless guy

[orchid spruce]

blasphemous 1 is terrible by default

[safe plinth]

guys is silksong fire and ash dlc is real or its a april fool?

[hybrid flare]

well its in the channel name, b2 discussion

[crimson widget]

April fools

[hybrid flare]

it is real fym

[crimson widget]

Its dlc will release later this year tho

[safe plinth]

f***

[sinful yarrow]

Fuck sinners road and these weird ass things that grab me

[paper knoll]

DID SOMEONE SAY BLOOD OCEAN?

[placid citrus]

it's real they announced it for tmr

[crimson widget]

Preach

[sinful yarrow]

Disgusting

[safe plinth]

then we'll have a 2 dlcs this year right?

[crimson widget]

No what

[hybrid flare]

it explores the fiery lands of volcano manor with the final boss being eigong

[placid citrus]

ultrakill reference

[light swan]

oh shit it’s been 3 hours but blasphemous discoirse is still going on

[crimson widget]

Only one dlc was annoucned im pretty sure it being ||sea of sorrows||

[paper knoll]

Ita IRON LUNF

[hybrid flare]

it was elden ring discussion for a while the flame of b2 has been reignited

[paper knoll]

LUNG

[placid citrus]

it wasn't just blasphemous we just circled around

[potent vessel]

silksongs plat is a lot easier rn because there arent any DLCs yet

[paper knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-iron-lung-simon-stfu-shut-the-fuck-up-gif-2340582142337855628

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[crimson widget]

Thanks

[placid citrus]

all roads lead to discourse

[quartz cave]

-# its not a dlc but yeah

[vivid belfry]

can we talk about a good game like About Fishing Playtest 2.0

[hybrid flare]

MY IMAGE PERMS, I CAN POST MY REACTION TIME NOW

[vivid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/about-fishing-fishing-bluegill-the-water-museum-wildmanta-gif-10652153543601778386

[crimson widget]

Is b2 good?

[potent vessel]

?

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, solid 8/10

[crimson widget]

Where’s sbr

[vivid belfry]

it's real good

[crimson widget]

I defeated the nameless thing and found the combat pretty bland

[quartz cave]

If its like what hk had then its not a dlc

[crimson widget]

Does it get better

[orchid spruce]

b2 is really good until this adslop motherfuckerrr

[orchid spruce]

it's very good, trust me

[hybrid flare]

Im goateeed

[crimson widget]

I’ll plat it then

[crimson widget]

where do you do ts i’ll try to beat you

[hybrid flare]

human benchmark

if the boss isn't called "orphan of kos", it unfortunately isnt a top 1 boss

[vivid belfry]

the thing that really fucks me up about Odon and his adds is that they don't have a resistance to fire but they do have a resistance to miasma

[quartz cave]

I read Orion instead of Odon

[sinful yarrow]

????? I JUST DIED TO NOTHING HELP

HELLO?

[hybrid flare]

Yeah like why

[crimson widget]

350

[quartz cave]

Im ArtemisIImaxxing too much

[sinful yarrow]

THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE GROUND WHAT HIT ME

[crimson widget]

Sbr

[orchid spruce]

Artemis, Orion ? Brawlhalla player?

[placid citrus]

i think you breathed too hard

[quartz cave]

As in the people that are currently spinning around the moon bestie

[placid citrus]

oxygen can be poisonous if taken in large quantities

[orchid spruce]

No idea what that is

[placid citrus]

wait real life reference

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gd-geometry-dash-cube-reference-funny-gif-8757531089775734098

[orchid spruce]

btw, i really like how blasphemous 2 and MIO handle currency. soulslikes' dropping currency on death and needing to be picked up is so stupid

[potent vessel]

brawlhalla is a plague on this earth

[orchid spruce]

hope future games abandon this soulslike feature

[quartz cave]

Isnt brawlhalla just worse smash

[rocky jolt]

what if we took real life and divided that by half

[hybrid flare]

hold on how did b2 handle it again?

[orchid spruce]

[orchid spruce]

you don't lose currency

[hybrid flare]

doesnt MIO also handle it the same way

[potent vessel]

its quite a bit different

[placid citrus]

dude... no way

[vivid belfry]

in MIO you just lose everything instantly

[quartz cave]

"Mio" "soulslikes" 💔

[hybrid flare]

Oh you need to spend fucking money to have your magic bar usable mb

[sinful yarrow]

STOP

[placid citrus]

it's not rlly a soulslike thing, that's more of a games in general thing

[hybrid flare]

in MIO you drop the currency thats also needed to heal basically

[orchid spruce]

if you die, you lose all your liquid currency. you can't pick it up. so you're allowed to be free to explore. the solidifying liquid currency has 100% conversion rate and easy to find around the map.

[vivid belfry]

I was right about this being a bad idea for silksong btw

[sinful yarrow]

OH GOD IT CAN JUMP

[hybrid flare]

so if i lose it, it will be scattered around the map..?

[sinful yarrow]

EW KILL IT N O W

[vivid belfry]

fighting enemies in MIO is worthless unless you are actively in pursuit of a shop item and it means you're basically forced to grind in the endgame

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-true-silksong-hollow-knight-truebbio-gif-4872516641731648376

[hybrid flare]

Im lwk stuck in mio

[orchid spruce]

no, you will lose it forever. but you can solidfy your liquid currency through machines to never lose those solid currencies after death

[hybrid flare]

been going in circles in the starter area

[light swan]

theyre fun which is why i kill them

[gilded umbra]

The think on its face and legs are the remains of its friends faces

[orchid spruce]

this is a brilliant choice because it allows and encourages freedom of exploration

[hybrid flare]

oh wow you lose everything AND rosaries?

[light swan]

send your map

[hybrid flare]

No it doesn't lmao, you have like 3 base hp and if you dont actually solidify it you cant reclaim it otherwise

[fiery burrow]

I kinda see what you mean but also do you need to have a specific thing you want to buy to know you'll probably need the money later

[orchid spruce]

sure, but it's way more friendly than rosaries

[vivid belfry]

not really

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[hybrid flare]

Uh no?

[placid citrus]

that's cool

[orchid spruce]

see, you just need to play mioslop

and then come back

[light swan]

nacre is so much better

[potent vessel]

is mio good

[orchid spruce]

mio is so good

[potent vessel]

ive heard it gets bad near the end

[light swan]

losing it isnt a big deal, it’s so easy to get nacre, and it’s so easy to crystallize nacre

[vivid belfry]

the way MIO's currency system works is a knock against the game and I was correct for bashing it when it was suggested for silksong

[light swan]

by who lol

[placid citrus]

nah it's an inside joke to call it good

[orchid spruce]

yes, it gets bad near the end. but the rest is so good

[hybrid flare]

Shii is a fucking runt ive donated my entire body to him already

[fiery burrow]

Near the end I was still finding new places to explore and new bosses and stuff

[orchid spruce]

not really bad, just not as good

[light swan]

i’d say the end is the best parts

[potent vessel]

my friend told me he heard it from someone 💔

[toxic vigil]

Can we talk about sk

[light swan]

bro… there’s literally an unexplored pathway to the left

[fiery burrow]

I think the games quality is pretty consistent

[potent vessel]

the next metroidvania im gonna get is probably solateria

[hybrid flare]

Ive tried going into the left and ive found nothing

wheres my portable map

[orchid spruce]

it's like 9, 9, 9 then 6 at the last quarter of the game

[placid citrus]

that's the one that came out last month right

[hybrid flare]

when i actually need it

[light swan]

😭😭😭how

[orchid spruce]

so it's still a very good game

[potent vessel]

yea

[hybrid flare]

its all walls

[fiery burrow]

I also kinda got stuck in the first area ngl

[light swan]

you can see where the pathway is

[hybrid flare]

i lwk cant

[orchid spruce]

explore

[hybrid flare]

Silksong has hk's system plus wtv the rosary system is

[light swan]

see those unexplored connections

[hybrid flare]

ive explored through the left side almost completely now couldnt find this area

Why isn't there a portable map

[light swan]

there will be

[hybrid flare]

not when ill need it..

[graceful oyster]

Lol

[light swan]

bro just go here

[vivid belfry]

silksong has a million safeguards against losing currency and anyone who thinks it's too restrictive is not being serious

[placid citrus]

i played the demo a while ago on like the highest diff and it was alr, it was lowk parryslop so you should play nine sols instead cuz that's better

[light swan]

and look around

[hybrid flare]

ill try to get there somehow

[orchid spruce]

i liked it, no more being forced to go back to where i was to get back money and actually go where i want to go

[fiery burrow]

I'm on a second playthrough of Mio and I'm stuck on the ||wheel puzzle||

[potent vessel]

ive already played ninesols

[light swan]

remember whats in the ||vaults shuttle||

[placid citrus]

o then play that

[hybrid flare]

instead of it being left there it fucking vanishes oh its so good

[potent vessel]

also wtf is parryslop, guys be calling anything slop nowadays 😭

[vivid belfry]

in practice this means basically nothing because progression through MIO's areas is pretty linear and I was never hard walled by enemies

[potent vessel]

i just said i already have

[vivid belfry]

if MIO had the cocoon system or even the shade system, it would have been an improvement

[hybrid flare]

solateria looks ai im sorry

[fiery burrow]

yeah I just got it nvm

[light swan]

i think it’s controversial but for the better

[placid citrus]

i meant solateria or whatevs

[potent vessel]

oh fair

[potent vessel]

💀

[light swan]

never has losing nacre ever impacted me

since it’s so easy to crystallize with 0 drawbacks

[placid citrus]

idk if it's ai but it do feel like that with some things

[orchid spruce]

exactly, i don't care about dying in MIO

[light swan]

@hybrid flare this room is where you found ||mel||

[vivid belfry]

crystallizing requires backtracking so I just ended the game with a bunch of unpurchased shit I didn't care to grind for

[hybrid flare]

ah alr

[light swan]

it requires backtracking?

[vivid belfry]

I probably lost like over half of all the nacre I ever collected

[light swan]

i always just found crystallizers around the path i was going

[orchid spruce]

i just crystalize whenever it's convenient and i still buy everything with a bunch of leftover

like oh there's a crystalizer where i go, lemme visit it

[fiery burrow]

The game kinda showers you with crystalized nacre through pickups anyway

[light swan]

if anything old cores are the choke point for buying stuff

[orchid spruce]

i never backtrack for it

[opaque sigil]

That’s surprising

I feel like I didn’t die enough outside of bosses to lose very much nacre

[vivid belfry]

the smart way to play would be to come across a platforming section and go back to crystallize everything you're holding, but that's fucking annoying so I didn't do it

[orchid spruce]

why would you do that, that's boring

[vivid belfry]

exactly

[orchid spruce]

just play the game

[vivid belfry]

that's why instant loss on death is a bad system

[orchid spruce]

i swear to god i never had a nacre shortage

it's just overflowing

[potent vessel]

have any of you guys played shinobi art of vengeance

[fiery burrow]

Its on my radar I remember the trailer looking rad

[orchid spruce]

i don't think so

[light swan]

in my glass soul run where i was avoiding enemies i was short 30 nacre

[potent vessel]

the combats really fun

[light swan]

at one point

i was donating nacre to my goat so it was like i was still dying

[orchid spruce]

if you're avoiding enemies and only short 30 nacre, that's like really good

[light swan]

not like i just hoarded up all the nacre

outside of that i’ve had perfectly enough nacre at all times

[opaque sigil]

There isn’t really enough to spend it on for it to be an issue anyways

[light swan]

well. more than enough but you get what i mean

[hybrid flare]

ugh mio's healing

what a fucking inconvenience

[opaque sigil]

The limiting factor on purchases was basically always old cores not nacre

[light swan]

people trying to complain about every single thing that makes their life harder

[orchid spruce]

i don't mind mio's healing, but i can see why others feel irritated, especially for platforming

[light swan]

ugh… mio’s attacks… theyre so slow…

ugh… why can’t mio fly…. ugh….

[orchid spruce]

i have mixed feelings about it

[hybrid flare]

Its not the good kind of harder

[light swan]

healing is valid to be sad about tho