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Deep Docks door
locked door in d. docks
dawg i would use flintslate if it lasted longer
You can reach wanderer as soon as you get to mosshome and buy the simple key even without any abilities I am p sure
Maybe try doing some research and Playing the game before arguing next time
8s is already a huge amount of time for 50% dmg+fire DoT 😭
its sad that shell satchel only increases flintslate quantity by 1
you can go around later in the game, but until you have clawline it's locked behind that door
Luckily I've played the game to know that freeing green shitter does nothing but waste a valuable early game simple key
oh yes because everyone is always in fury on beast and always has the crit in hunters crest because they are perfect and never get hit
i use tools mainly for bosses and bosses with quick staggers it isnt that useful for in my opinion
It's extremely simple to stay in beast fury for the entire fight, lmfao.
mee ❤️ hah
jokinggg
Beast gains silk as fast as wanderer, while not caring about enemy attacks
Brother this is old 😭 😭
it's a dps discussion, it assumes realistically optimal gameplay, no?
Literally from the first patch of silksong
It saves you time later
Erm what
and realistically optimal gameplay is constant fury mode and constant max focus
Hunter got buffed, shaman got it's silk skill boost nerfed by 10%
no that guy said that beast crest is braindead and im trying to prove that its not but it somehow evolved into a dps argument
Honestly idgaf about DPS I just use whatever crest I find comfortable
you can also combo with tools, i dont actually look on dps, i look on moveset
Except it is braindead and you can't prove otherwise
just enter fury and stab shit
^
guyssss why argue so much?
Is it that simple to play silksong hitless? Cuz yk getting hit reduces the duration
Literally just press bind and spam attack 😭
facetank with injectors
And you will kill everything
Beast crest is brain dead
That’s Wanderer’s
I don't think anyone cares about DPS in their first playthrough too
Me when looking on silksong discussion channel and it's talk about crests again
its still hard for noobs tbh
Beast is quite literally just wanderer but good
Wanderer is nowhere near as braindead as beast
trust me that it is
I disagree. I also haven’t played the game since launch
Look at this
https://youtu.be/J41VQXGJ-Yw?si=tU7oNn49uXN1cRNo
this battle went way too fast what :sob:
#hollowknightsilksong #silksong
Hello crawfather
Literally the moment I binded the fight was already over 😭
Only reasonble crests are reaper hunter and wanderers
Why don't you support your kids crawfather
I now sentence you to fight in the craw pit because of thous terrible opinion
you guys r still fighting???
Reaper needs a buff
Heya mate
for a act 3 fight... why is this easier than most bosses in the game
#hollowknightsilksong #silksong
you are the only person ive seen play like that
reapers fine
They're pretty cool
i tried speedrunning bosses in my 3h 40 speedrun and it was sick, combo wanderer, flintslate, cross stich and dice
its a stable crest
GET that off of my screen 
its not that its bad its just that the others r better
reasonable how
Only good crest is witch others are bad
dice increase critical hit chance to 5%, flintslate gives ATK buff, alternatively use flea beer for fas attacks
Idc what we are talking about I am just stating reasons why shaman is very similar to the knight 
believe it or not, all crests arent "braindead" if you enjoy the game instead of spamming shit
2.2%
not 5
pardon me
Now this guy knows ball
architect users could never understand
why u using crests like beast and architect and snail when they dont have enough spots for blue and yellow toos
Wait a fucking minute
EXACTLY
believe it or not you can use whatever crest you want as long as you find it comfortable
Have we considered that Silksong is slop
shaman does
If you take damage at full hp during fury can you heal those masks
architect has 2 yellow what the helly
there is always going to do some op way to demolish bosses
hmmmmm idk raigbaiter i cant tell
Architect has the same number of blue and yellow, shaman has 2 blue, beast has 2 yellow, witch has 3 blue
but its never going to be fun
Because they're objectively stronger?
Well there's the problem
what's the problem there
Hot take: the craw crest is the best
i only respect architect user if they use it cuz of the moveset
Crest
Architect shaman and beast/hunter are the 4 strongest crests in the game
its dope i gotta admit
I take my statement back, but beast is still braindead
I think witch is lowkey better than hunter
I like infestation operation because I think the name of the wish is p cool (and you get witch)
if only team cherry buffs witch so it can match them
i stilll prefer hunter, unleash tacks and voltvessel in the beginning then dont get hit
Sadly not
It has alot more flashy combos though
Buff witch?
witch is wonderful
Why in the world does witch need a buff
Team cherry should boost witch dash attack to make it deal 3x instead of 2x nail dmg 
no
Actually wait your right
It doesn't need but would be cool
Buff witch!!!!
true
buff witch?
They are talking about dps (that I honestly dgaf about)
2.25 at most
2.5x
Witch dash should do 10x damage

ehhh idk
excuse me? its alreadey heavem
the abilities in blasphemous 2 are genuinely so creative
It hits 3 times ffs
oh then keep itat 2
what crest do you all like the most
I meant 3 times for overall 2x dmg
Witch should make enemies unable to heal cause you infest them 
oh
Make it 3x 
2.5 at most
witch with longclaw is op
thats the highestim going
Even without longclaw witch is the 2nd/3rd longest range crest
I only use wanderer because it makes pogoing easier
what silk skills should be used with shaman crest
Only shaman and beast bind are longer, and beast bind by barely anything
I thought longclaw gets a big nerf on witch
my build on main account is witch with pollip pouch, sawtooth, injector, drill and tacks for red and longclaw in vesti
reapers pretty long
what your fav build
Reaper range isn't long actually
cross stitch, sharp dart, silk spear ig
It's noticeably smaller than witch beast shaman
Wait how does longclaw work with shaman?
could swap it up depending on the fight
Longer projectile
yes, and even with shaman needle strike
the needle strike of shaman iwith longclaw is the longest attack i suppose
Oh okay
alchemist crest dash attack:
I think it's cooled down now
reaper long claw compass, cogflys, random other tool, rosarie collecter, magnetic dice, druids, crystal shard, and my silk skill is the dashing one
Just make sure to never use pollip pouch
why
Unless you want to sabotage yourself
Worst blue tool and an active detriment
Volt filament is the cooler brother of pollip pouch
oh yes my favorite crest, alchemist
Volt filament is pollip but actually does something good
i dont use tools in general because they take time to maximize damage, which is why i use cogflys
i dont think so. i think the most useless for me is crystal
thats just me
domt bully me
Crystal still does a million more things compared to pollip, which quite literally just paints tools purple
Crystal is good if you get hit a lot
crystal?
memory. crystal
crystal has some cool shit it can pull off, it can stagger things from a distance
First Sinner can teleport into it for a stagger, for example
idk i just rarely get hit
Meanwhile pollip just throws purple paint at your tools
And that's it
yeah im sorry but i cant agree
i need to count pollip dmg
Now imagine if memory crystals can pull enemies to it like sting shard
defenders crest
I made a cake
mybe i can agree, it hits a lot less than i thought
yummy
@still owl
i swap it for mirror something something
Best blue tools are obv spider strings and shard pendant

i barely use shard pendant ill be honest
i forgot what spider strings is
my twisted sense of humor
I use shard pendant when I am farming rosaries
oh is it the silk harp thing
Shard Pendant is unironically decent like it's just extra shell shards for free sure why not
increase needolin effect
My favorite blue tools are Magnetite Dice, Magnetite Brooch, and Plasmium Phial
ok
range and maybe duration, i domt use it
i can have 2 crests equipped at once and can swap between them for 1 silk
two truths and a lie
The most decent tool ever is probably straight pin
I mean, yea, it's just, as decent as it gets
le cogelafly
wanna see its upgrade? threefold pin
Basic ranged attack with good capacity and fine damage
Conchcutter*
delver drill
yk i actually like conchcutter
guys I said decent not good
more of a sidegrade tbh
Well yeah it’s one of the best tools in the game
because it hits several times in big targets (aka groal the great)
Whatever, go my tierslop
Those are the same word
guess what tools these are the id of
i see what u did there
what about the boomerang thing
i like drill, deals big damage
mirrors
Curveclaw is one of the best tools
yea
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh wouldnt say the best tool, it is top 3 red tools fro me tho
when using mirrors hornet should shout "trobbio!" instead of "wren!"
peak
that would be funny
what are you using steady belt for 🙏
She should shout hornet actually
yeah, but trobbio is more peak
Do you have any better suggestion for combat based yellow tools?
TRRRROBBBBIOOOOOOO
Weighted Belt is good
It's reduced knockback + more iframes like why would you not use it lol
wait cuz what are the good yellow tools
I dont use yellow for combat tbh, i choose witch bc it has three blue slot
yeah but its not like the hk version steady something
she should shout tung tung sahur
Weighted belt is always in my yellow tool slots, you don't know how annoying it is to get comboed by enemy attacks and hazards
THE WAYWARD COMPASS
Not as good as steady body but still good
weighted belt only stops some movement
Because it's a combination of Steady Body + Stalwart Shell
oh wait and stalwart shell?
Yea
Also weighted belt increases your iframes a bit so 
ascdendants grip
It increases iframes after you get hit
i never knew abt the stalwart shell then mb
wait give me 4 good yellow tools pls
Dice, belt, grip, bracelet
magnetite dice
Shell Satchel, Dice, Anklets, Belt
4
what is snare setter doing up there
compass
I lowkey forgot about satchel
belt
Glad they didn't make shell satchel a blue tool
satchel is steel soul only
It's a good tool
Shell satchel is steel soul only
Bracelet instead of Satchel, then
satchel only good yellow tool except for COMPASS
Snare setter does massive damage
Dual dmg? i wouldnt use it for steel mode
dice 🙏
He never specified steel soul until now
he's not in steel soul mode, so
yeah but u gotta set it up and stuff
ur right, but i prefer not to get hit
team cherry are great at making ids
right its only me haha
Also I thought about it a second and I realized Snitch Pick is gruesome as hell
you dont have to get hit
so what with dice
oh yea i saw that on yt but it doesnt work anymore, three fold pin pogo still works tho
Nah they patched those too iirc
its like carefree melody + wanderer buff
ya
You literally stick a hook int your enemy, yank yourself towards them with the rope/silk, rip it out of their bodies, and then shell shards are torn from their flesh
silkspeed amulets id is sprintmaster... could this be alluding to something?
aw man 
Not like anyone was going to use them pimpillo pogos are ASS
I think i might be softlocked in the clawline room
Sooooo, i dont use wanderer and i dont fear taking dmg
its kinda useless for me
sprintmaster is confirmed main antagonist of hk silksong: sea of sorrows dlc
If Dice was a blue tool no one would be using it
yeah but think is dice better than any of your current yellow tools
bro he has clawline anyways 
how our parents went to school
If snitch pick was a yellow tool everyone would be using it
snitch pick i still find useles
Everyone should be using snitch pick already anyway
Steady body + quick slash 🤤
More powerful clawline I guess
25% damage boost to clawline is awesome
How does one get out of the clawline room
ALTHOUGH my only problem on Steel Speed Complete was money
Feel like it could be higher tho since that’s like 5 extra damage on Clawline
so i used thief mark on grand reedes
clawline the hooks and the enemies
trobbiooooooooo
If you're using clawline a lot like me then 25% feels pretty reasonable
Died there a couple times on my original playthrough
I wouldn't complain if it was more, but eh
worse volt filament
how much damge does harpoon do
I'm lowkey gonna do a clawline combat only challenge, does anyone got any tips?
snitch pick
Snitch pick
Equal to a nail hit if both hits connect
also weavelight
I dont see an exit though, the way i came from is blocked
Guys when does the world shift to act 3? I wanna make sure I did everything in act 2 before I proceed
Makess sense
Downdash after clawline to stop the bounce
go up and left
It's gonna be noticeable
Where the body is?
If pantheons happen Unravelled needs some changes
I’m about to go get the third threefold melody
WAIT
Namely remove the enemies and random spear spam in between phases
Just wanna make sure it won’t take me to act 3 after that
the one that had a shard bundle?
I ACTUALLY NOTICED THAT IM MISSING ONE ACHIEVEMNT IN HK
Yeah
is it Pantheon 5 or Happy Couple
IT THE ALTER NAILMASTER ENDING
Go right from there, clawline the upper cogwork enemy
PURITY
you want to reach the top right of the room
I have pantheon
Unravelled takes like 50% longer than the time you actually spend fighting it because of the weird enemies and spears between the phases
im HELLA late
it's a giant, unkillable mass of silk haunted by countless souls. it has to take a while to kill
also, which background in HK is more flex, steel or eternal ordeal
Ohhh, i pulled down the ring, im stupid 😭
Yeah, that’s why it has 1000 health while being an act 2 boss (gramma silk has 1024)
Sorry, just a never expected that
its all gone
you'll find more rings like that, you have to hook on for a second or two
every last bite
Yeah, thank you
the 500 feral chincillas in my basement broke out and ate them all
But the in between phases are basically just pauses in the middle of the fight to kill some cadavers and avoid a few spears
it can easily go undiscovered until act 3
Who would win a giant amalgamation of souls and corpses VS some tiny spikes on the floor
I’m saying Unravelled has enough hp
This is your reminder to use tools they're there for a reason
It’s the mini enemy gauntlets between phases that are the time wasters
ah
And the times when he just sits in the ground and lets 3 spears show up to waste 5 extra seconds between the next time you can damage him
fuh nah
He should just stagger when the phase transition reached, then go into the next phase after he recovers
CHILD 🙏🙏🙏😭😭💔💔
I mean, the enemies die pretty fast with good upgrades
I don't think it's that big of a deal
I am referring to if they add pantheons or some sort of boss rush in the future
Tacks!
And we need to refight Unravelled
Yea, exactly, the enemies wouldn't be that bad if you have enough upgrades
So he doesn’t become elder hu but 3x longer and 10x worse
That feeling when elder hu is GENUINELY spamming the move where he disappears
Elder Hu is very fine
Marmu is worse
shakra rings are overHated, they're really good for enemy gauntlets
In fact, one of the better bosses in Hollow Knight 
Lowkey js tried interacting with his pancakes, found out you can pogo off them
That feeling when The Unravelled keeps using the 3 spears attack while underground between every attack
I did that too
Got SO bored omg
I think Rusty has the best take on Elder Hu
He makes krabby patties and then throws them down cuz they taste like crap
Plasmified zango, broodmother, groal, pretty much every silksong boss related to bilewater, sinners road, and putrified fucks
That's so cool man
I swear to god everyone just had collective dementia and forgot how terrible most Hollow Knight bosses are
I watched some of his vids
There is no boss in putrefied ducts
Hilarious man
Zango is at least funny, and the others are better than Hu
Elder Hu is far from the worst
Lugoli is the worst boss in the series
Literally designed as a test dummy (Zango)
The only Bilewater bosses are Groal (who you just mentioned) and Phantom (who’s great)
ASS JIM?
Shakra rings have poshanka they’re automatically the best thing ever
Omg phantom 😄
Like yes Zango is the worst boss in the game design-wise but at least I feel something fighting him. At least he is funny. He makes me laugh. Elder Hu just makes me feel miserable
Has no real ass
Most are really good, its just that you’re used to the silksong’s agile combat
Phantom is bilewater
Ass Jim is a fraud
Phantom aint that good imma be honest
I played Hollow Knight first
They’re my favorite boss…
Phantom is by no means bad tho
i don't think most bosses in either game are terrible
Phantom is really good
although there are a handful for sure
hk bosses arent that bad from perspective of hk imo, its an older game and its a simpler moveset, thus simpler bosses
Id say no boss in the game is terrible except for like 2-3 exception
Why she aura-farming 😭
Ye but you still get used to the new combat
They’re not as climactic as Last Judge but the leadup to them with the mist and exhaust organ are really neat
no wonder silksong bosses are better or more complex, they have learned more and hornets moveset is more complex and its meant to be a more complex game
phantom is like a top 10 skong boss
I really liked the bosses that could parry by themselves
Volt vyrm, plasmified Zango and uh brood mother
Those are the 3 bosses id say are just straight bad
Ew broodmother
I dislike chef lugoli
Congratulations, you parried yourself
i HATE broodmother
Broodmother isn't necessary bad, just really annoying
But I wouldn’t call them irredeemably bad
zango i would
Pure vessel/ THK and phantom and hornet sentinel
I HATE THAT SLIMY SHIT WITH ALL THE CELLS IN MY BODY
that's a reasonable take
Ass Jim is a whatever boss with an annoying mechanic but a top tier meme factor which makes him basically even out as an average boss
Why is the arena so small
SO MUCH HP MAN
No?
It’s well set up and bell beast finisher
Bell eater is fine, it suffers from fact that it forces people to play different thus people will hate it
aka markoth syndrome
I’m 2 hours and 36 minutes into a speedrun and i’m still fighting Trobbio
I had to use red tools 😭
Refight bell eater and focus on the actual fight instead of the hype moments and aura
Trobbio
I originally found bell eater fine until I re fought and realized
Is he even required for beating the game? The guide i’m following put him but i don’t remember him being something important
It doesn't have that much hp
the actually bad bosses in hk1 are like. winged nosk, marmu, uumuu, oblobbles. there are a share beyond that that are pretty underwhelming though
Just how unfun of an actual fight is
Lowkey js jumped up from my seat when bell beast came
Maybe if the butt had another attack
but if you just consider the bosses' quality, Hollow Knight would probably average to 4, like mid or bad, most of the times
Whatever go my bossslop
The best way to do bell eater is just throw volt vessels where he’s going to appear and move on
Besides the red crap
IF HATE WAS SPELLED OUT USING ALL THE MATTER IN THE UNIVERSE AT THE SMALLEST LEVEL POSSIBLE IT WOULD NOT EQUAL A SINGLE % OF PURE HATE I FEEL FOR BROODMOTHER ( and bell eater i guess)
I disagree
Since 10 voltvessels is more than enough to kill bell eater
markoth is also pretty dogshit
Bell eater would be a decent boss in hk
Valid
I should continue playing HK
Difficulty doesnt mean its bad
Would abyss shriek pierce the armor?
Stopped after beating Greenpath hornet
markoth isnt even bad just forces you to play different
Really?
If you disagree on the basis that it should be 3 and not 4, I agree 
However i did that like mid silksong 100% speedrun

yeah, it not being fun is what makes it bad
dont get why players hate when games force them to use a different strategy
Abyss shriek would still hit the face and asshole
Wait abyss shriek is a bit op when the face backside comes from above
this is blatantly ignoring the horrific lack of polish that fight actually has going on
What is this monstrosity
Ye abyss shriek is just really good in general
nobody wanted to see that
What the
Radiance
average hk exprience, play a few hours, dont play for 6 months come back 112% the game xD
I would not recommend Hollow Knight to anyone who played any modern metroidvania, unless said first metroidvania is Blasphemous 1
I don’t hate bosses that make you play differently
Organic weaponry go hard
put your denchers back in, old man
What i did
I did that for silksong
Light too bright even for the darkest eyes
shit like how the swords can literally spawn offscreen on the left side for some reason, or how easy it is to miss them when you change platforms and they move off camera, or the lack of telegraph on the shield stopping
because Hollow Knight is probably heavens found after blasphemous 1 
I played ULTRAKILL then I played HK, gotta say it wasn't very pleasant
I played silksong on release, dropped it after beating phantom, came back and restarted + 100%’d the game last month
"I should check #sk-discussion real fast and see what's going on"
"Maybe some people i like chatting with will be online"
"Maybe a neat discussion or someone asking for something i can help with"
How could I have been so naive. This image will be stuck in the back of my head for the rest of the day.
Hollow Knight became quite dated, it was really good for its time, but now 
the MOMENT i opened chat, you posted this image
I need to do hunters journal and steel soul
But I’m tempted to go actually play HK
Before doing that
Still haven't gotten all achievements, yikes
I still like hk a lot tho I do prefer silksong
i will say, just keeping all those things in mind will drive u to success
Silksong just feels a lot more fluid
Tis the reward for expecting something of a higher quality than a rotting fruit fly
Silksong might lowkey just be my favorite game of all time
gotta pick n choose ur battles
Albeit not like I’m all that far in HK
Eternally taken by Lobotomy corporation for me
I wil keep saying it ss is in fact A Game
I prefer HK over Silksong, probably because of nostalgia and it was my first ever metroidvania
I think HK was decent when I beat it
i do not find hk to be particularly dated honestly
Silksong is like 2nd rn honestly though
This
I like hk over ss
it is, hk is a lot more rigid of a game, different playstyles
That’s legitimately horrific
The HK has so much less movement
i prefer hk for replayability, skong for mechanics
I got the dash ability and it’s so interesting to see how different it is
Even late-game, this is true
I pretend that this statement is valuable and adds to the conversation but i truly know this shit is stupid
Hollow knight dash is a straight line
there are genuinely design aspects in hk1 that i like far more than silksong's attempts at similar concepts
basegame hk is so much more digestable, i dont need to spend 3 hours getting to act 3 because of wishes
the better a game's exploration, the more dreadful it is to replay for me even though the first playthrough will be fantastic
i replayed a lot of nine sols & silksong, because their exploration sucks 
It's crazy how different hk and ss are despite being the same series
Yes
Hollow knight good
Silksong bad
Silksong dash is a curved yeet into hyperspeed sprint
its great
I think the opposite
Team Cherry did a really good job making the game feel different and unique
Like silksong lets you run like your actually on Plasmium 24/7 compared to HK
and i don't have comparable problems with anything it does in comparison
palestag’s inclusion in silksong made me lower the game by .5 in my rating
Hollow knight good and silksong good and better
I do agree with that
I wonder if well ever get a second character in ss
nine sols is one of those games i think after 100%ing i just never will replay tbh
It was planned for hk
Silksong is better UNTIL Act 3 happens, what tragedy
I do enjoy hollow knight a lot from what I’ve played of it
I think silksong will be better in the end when it gets all the dlcs
Hollow Knight doesn’t have any mechanics I find as outright bad as a few in Silksong
Act 3 is so horrible
but at the same time silksong does improve at a lot of core aspects which is why i'm starting to lean towards liking it a similar amount even in spite of all of my frustrations with it
It would be cool to play as lace after act 3 to rebuild
Like how awful Bilewater is
Taste varies 
I love bilewater
(Royal Waterways looks like a temple by comparison)
exactly
Bilewater is better than like 90% of hk areas
Heres your sign
thats fair, nine sols is very high up there for games, but it has 0 replayablity to me besides battle memories
Act 3 peaks in Abyss Escape which might be the best sequence in either game
Only opinion thats wrong
You’re gonna have a bad tie
Guys, (iyo) what's the most beautiful areas in HK and SS respectively?
OMG HE SAID THE THING
bilewater is my favorite silksong area and nobody can tell me its a bad one
I'd rather traverse Bilewater than Deepnest any day
but it like
has better distribution of fun casual platforming
insanely fun movement
incredibly enjoyable melee combat
and probably my favorite run of critical path bosses in any game
when you lowk try to mod a new crest but ts genuinely happens ✌️
Only good part of Act 3, and also Karmelita. Though Karmelita was ever so slightly affected by Team Cherry's impulsive desire to add gauntlets everywhere
Choral chambers, Karmelita’s memory, Coral tower memory
bilewater and deepnest are genius in terms of game design
Greymoor and city of tears
Maybe kingdoms edge
My first experience in bilewater was falling in through the vaults
bilewater is a well designed area but i dont think it invalidates all of hk lmfao
Where's lost verdania waaaaa
OH TRUE
Silksong has an insanely good required bosses run like can I be fr
Deepnest
After act 3, lace had lost all her powers with the death of her mother. She find herself in steel city. Her goal is to stop steel city to assassinate hornet as she became the queen of pharloom. Hollow knight: Steelbowl in 12th april 2037...
i dont get why people go, sequal good so previous game bad
Kingdom’s edge is up there. Verdania is a highlight.
Lost verdenia is beautiful
real
Oh nameless town is also really cool
Best looking area def isn’t putrefied ducts
It's just there's a lot that aren't very memorable, like, waterways, basin, gardens, probably a few more
What the heck is this area supposed to be?
Why does everyone forget my goat lost verdania
@graceful oyster how's the egg
Queens Gardens? Unmemorable?
Because it's awful
Why did verdania lost
because palestag taints that area with its shittiness
Fuck no
We dont need a whole game with lace
Just an epilogue
Ima be real basically every silksong area excels in the aesthetic it goes for
It's Easter, I be busy, haven't finished
It doesn't really have a lot going on for it it's just Greenpath 2.0
There’s no silksong area that commits to an aesthetic and doesn’t do amazing at it
You say unmemorable areas but you don’t remember Howling Cliffs
ah right, it's easter 
True, the background IS ver similar
Even wisp thicket which is a like 2 room area is cool
GORBBBB
palestag is the worst boss in the hollow knight series
Yea that's how memorable cliffs is I completely forgot about it till now
happy easter
Lace is a trash character, but still would be cool to have an epilogue
yeah, i've been saying. a lot of silksong's optional bosses dip into poop territory (which is true of hk as well don't get me wrong) but the ones that you HAVE to fight to reach sister of the void are like, at least 80% bangers
Elder hu?
even worse than elder hu
? I completely disagree
B-but H-hollow kn-knight S-S-steelbowl???
Gim troope
Lace is an amazingly written character
Ascended Markoth
nvm you proved me wrong
I still think hk's world is extremely good, but some areas don't stick out much
Hollow knight: steeling your kidneys
Adult Hu
Sorry wrong social media platform
of those the only ones i don't particularly like are sister splinter, groal, signis and gron, and nyleth
That video is still playing even after you deleted it
I want it
Honestly i would have preferred if last just died at the end, i hate her character
widow into last judge/phantom into coggies into trobbio into lace 2 is a fucking generational run of bosses
if i was hornet i would have saved lace to save pharloom and then just push her back into the void puddle like in hitman 2 when you push over a ledge
High halls gauntlet is also amazing
Dont forget the conductors gauntlet
Not a boss but just one of the absolute highlights of the game
It sucked blood out of me
if you view that as a boss sure
Wouldve just used lace as extra energy for the silksoar
It’s not a bossss but the forum might as well be imo
actually pretty based, no need for knight to save hornet
Ye would be cool
trobbiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gms sacrifices herself to save lace but lace just ends up dying
Best ending
thats what i was gon say
perfecto
If i was the knight, i wpuldve think "whos that bug near my sister? Probably someone dumb fell into the abbys and coincidentally appeared next to her."
IGN would give skong 10/10 if this happened
The knight might not know lace but prob just thought “meh if hornet thinks she’s worth saving ig”
Moss Mother (Good introduction)
Bell Beast (Ok)
Widow (First real test of skill)
Great Conchflies (Ok)
Last Judge (Preparation for Act 2)
Cogwork Dancers (Just a great fight)
Trobbio (Trobbio)
Forebrothers Signis & Gron (More unique than people give them credit for)
Groal the Great (Bilewater in general is a great test for Act 3)
Raging Conchfly (Decent)
Lace 2 (Just a good ass boss)
Grand Mother Silk (Good boss)
Shrine Guardian Seth (Very fun duel type boss)
All 4 of the hearts are great in their own way
Lost Lace (peak)
if silksong had like. a better gameplay reward structure i probably would like it more than hk1
Ya I agree
that was by far my biggest problem on my first run, although in the replays i've found act 3's entry requirements to be similarly frustrating
Killing bosses dont reward you. In hollow knight you get a lot of money. While i got bankrupt in silksong everyday
I have 3000 geo not even trying in HK
Most bosses in silksong don’t give you anything except the ability to find a different area with a different boss
are clover dancers good in thier own way....
this is an amazing run down
hi ash
Most rosers i have in skillsong is like 900
Some can give you tools. But i dont remember using a boss tool
Verdenia is beautiful and the green prince is cool
hi alp
Yes I really like Clover Dancers and I will die on this hill
thats verdania not dancers
I absolutely love the green prince
B-b-but! It shows citadel was greedy!!1! Good storytelling!1!1!!
And the clover dancer theme is amazing
GUYS
groal is overhated im ngl
its kinda just worse cogwork dancers
IVE BEEN PLAYING THE GAME FROM RELEASE
I absolutely hate clover dancers
yo?
AND I JUST NOTICED ONE THING I HAD NEVER BEFORE
ran out of dev time, slap some paint on it one more move
i agree though
Wish i couldve experienced veridania before this
I do think they need a buff of some sort, but I don't dislike them
Bad economy. Weavers knows nothing about how to manage the economy.
The cogwork dancers literally stole their moves ofc they had similar moves
Imagine waiting 1/3rd of your whole life just for silksong to release
Could be me
also i love how hornet just casually murders a dude that literally just wants to be left alone
cogwork dancer but you can only hit one of them and tornados when they hug now OOOOO 
innovative, mind-blowing
clover dancers game play wise are eh, but their story telling and lore?? amazing
the real main antagonist of hk silksong sea of sorrow is tormented trobbio
Fair, i dont hate them either, just underwhelmed
DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN SPAM DURING WITCH CREST NEEDLE STRIKE TO MAKE IT LAST MORE?
LIKE THE CYCLONE SLASH IN HK
Prince gets to spend the afterlife with their love
The weavers didn’t even run an economy, the weavers had a fairly equal system appreantly, the conductors are the ones who reallyyyyyy fucked up the economy
I wish last sinner got a different track like tormented trobbio and clover dancers
third trobbio fight should be sorrow trobbio
How did they make a grasshopper sexy
Clover Dancers are definitely the boss most in need of a buff rn I'd say
So revolutionary!!!
sorrowed trobbio
and why exactly does hornet get to make that decision?
Id agree
YES
wait guys
Because prince prob wanted that to happen
I remember watchşng a video similar to that idea. We should eleminate all the conductors and replace them.
we have concrete evidence trobbio will return
..? bro explicitly states that he just wants to be left alone
because trobbio represents the five stages of grief
Also verdania prob regrows afterward
Before you release them
he could just do that himself
DAMN
He asks you to just leave in verdenia
Oh ok
if he wanted to be reunited so bad he could just commit ritual suicide
I didnt get to that part
We don't just murder depressed people because they feel like dying in that moment 😭
and this is assuming the hk universe even has an afterlife
Hornet really just saw a gay bug and every bit of her internalized homophobia awakened
We understand your switch is broken 😭
Green prince used reverse physology on hornet.
And everyone thinks cloth dying is good
Why do you keep sending this image
I saw that image more than my dad
who is cloth
Just a joke lol
To be fair thats her choice tbh
Clothing i lost in the dryer
they probably want to be reunited with their broken switch in the afterlife i think
Hornet has gotta be the world's first homosexual person to also be homophobic
Yes yes
i killled him muaaahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahah
Not true
There are other examples?
False
I know like several people who fit this description
Most of them aren’t spiders though
Catholic priests
politicans are arachnids so yes they are
Most?
No. Politics are reptiles
There’s a few I’m not completely sure of
both?
Reptile spiders
Im at 99% at silksong yall
Might be spiders might not be 🤔
yuppppppp
Politicians are tardigrades
They wont fucking die
Politicans are politicans. No matter what shape they in
hey lets create a political discussion server
Im gonna get all pharloom mfs, im doing watcher of the edge now
YES
I hate khann's politica
rather gouge my eyes out
This is Skarrta
Train every sk discussion user into a keyboard warrior at birth
wait. there are NO politicians in absolute monarchy
I am not a discussioner. My actual job is throwing specific objets
Keyboard
objection!
that is factually false lmao
We use this to defend the chat
How do you do ts (clip by illusion2)
rdac chains
ew wtf
something something clawline, dash attack,
witch crest
C, they get deaded
illussion made a video on how to do rdac chains
I know, trying to get the build and combo tho
Im close to it
Witch dash + holding attack + harpoon + circle saw
why
You sure you saw a sawtooth circlet
the only politicians are the king and the ministers
I am
Where
and they dont argue between themselves
it looks like barbed bracelet with two normal hits, clawline and repeat
Under there
Witch crest dash atttack animation cancel Clawline after the second hit dash back repeat 2x
Pretty sure snitch pick aswell, ty
i mean okay ig it’s a question of definition
yeah the politican as we know it from a democracy doesn’t exist
That’s the exact method
nvm no running hit
Ty
It’s not that hard with some practice
that sounds attractive haha
now tbh every kind of government is bad, although im not anarchist
monarchy sounds decent
and miss
i have a helmet 🙂
Miss? Im a male!
and sir
Alright the voices are calling for me to do every crest khann gauntlets followed by barbed bracelet only khann
how MALEvolent
man i would like to see absolute monarchists live under the russian tsardom
Pretty sure I also have to do raging conch on my save bleh
My aim is perfect. I cannot miss a target
i aint no miss ima man
depends what u mean
I could just die to khann actually
My aim is perfect. I cannot sir a target
Since I can definitely beat khann hitless and really just want to test the gauntlets
if i werea country i could have a truce with anybody, as long as it is affordable
a matter of money
So?
She hates gay men specifically
so i dont fully understand what is the "russian tsardom"
it can be inerpreted in many ways
Its a storm type that borns in russia
the easiest one is a negative because everyboy hates russia
Once it borns, it does whatever it does.
Once it borns
its easter
how many messages till image perms 
500 million
I dont celebrate that
…the russian tsardom? what is there to interpret
What crest do I start with for every crest khann gauntlets?
bargain
hunter
Shamam
yk, english isnt my native language so sometimes i can misunderstand some phrases
This is truly what we work so hard for to get image perms
Oh Nyleth does count as shellwood
how i be moving on the fuckass bell bearers when they make me lose all my rosaries
Makes sense I guess but I always thought it still counted as grand gate
You have to be an undrrworker befoee you can be in the choir
underworker smelly scum buns
god i forgot what tsardom means
the tsardom of russia was the governing system (absolute monarchy) of russia pre january revolution
I have 0 memory lockets for shaman
Do you guys like my phone im a very normal person
because it is totally different in my language
I should go get those
this looks so wrong
Killed the watcher
i know the history i forgot english word for that
ah okay
in my language this is nearly the same as empire
out of interest, what is your mother tongue?
Polish
Fucking conquest image
language?
oh nice
Or you can jump on some scales, raid the nearest inert corpse of clothing, and infiltrate the citadel undetected
him opening his present was so wholesome
?
i suppose language not tongue
Bros the bell bearer hunter
Yeah yeah, the present... yeah
maybe thats abnother phrase i miss
ah no mother tongue is another expression for first language
ok
i lost 3000 rosaries to their bitchass its on SIGHT
i like it cuz it’s closer to the word we have for it in german lol
yk im B2/C1 english but have poor memory for some phrases
no way
whats the best theme from pale court
muttersprach yes?
yup
I thought pilgrims weren’t supposed to carry weapons. Clearly a double standard in play.
Catherine earnshaw
if you want i can explain it with some slavic/polsih vocabulary but idk if its necessary
Ss when?
When sea of sorrow team cherry
When canto 10 releases
i don’t think i’d be able to follow, considering that i have not looked into slavic languages at all
I saw that quirrel
Isn’t that in uhhh November?
Idr the road map perfectly
its pretty easy cause its just the similarity of words formed through word formation
This gotta be a looong year
yeah, slavic grammar is kind of hard for foreiners
True
The ritual is starting
Atleast we get the intervalo next real update
turkish grammar solos
maybe, i dont know turkish
Awww she just a bebeh 🥺🥹
There’s a memory locket if you silk soar in bell hart right?
Ik theres one in hunters march by Karmelita but i dont perfectly remember where the last one is
Alr thx
kill
Herrah
pov you sigma cuz u beat abs rad 2x in a row and beat pure vessel on ascended right after with taking damage only once
Hornet has been preserved
??
This really toke a very weird route
Deepnest elevator on red memory
radiance if she was good
training with vespa yet still got her ass wooped by knight
yummy
youd eat bell beast?
why not
blasphemy
are you jugding me
mods send him to whiteward

10 minutes later I can finally go do shaman khann gauntlets
Mrs white lady, sick threads
Well actually I need to fight raging conch
What crest should I use
To beat the stupid fly
EVERBLOOM
raging cockfly
same answer I always give: use whatever crest you like using
I enjoy all of them honestly
mm
I’m going to do khann gauntlets with every crest
However my reload save forces me to fight conch
Oh shi where the shamans
So
dead
Use Crest of the Angry Bird
is it worth using rune rage for high halls gauntlet
no.
It's fine
They stole rune rage from pv
Angry bird, bird, uhhh savage beastfly is close enough so beast crest
One of the situations where it'll be useful
does it not hit or is threadstrom better
Green prince's heart a fucking memento
Threadstorm will probably be better
Anyways 100%!!!
rune rage takes ages to cast, you lose ALL of your silk if you get hit while casting it, and it misses most of the time
i used flintsteele for the last wave
You can use his heart to replace any of the others funnily enough
so should i fight first sinner before or after high halls
last waves is easy cuz of shakra and hiding in the corner
If you want to use Rune Rage for it, kill FS
What? I dont speak english
theres no shakra in citadel kiddo
u can use shakra for high halls fun fact
^
TROBBIOOOOOOOOO 
wdym
Ka e la e la e la e
in the forum battle, you can recieve help from either garmond and zaza or shakra
she helps u in the gauntlet if u complete her qust
whats best crest for parkour?
Hunrer
shakra never reaches citadel
wrong
then the last 2 guys ca hit u if u hide in the top corner
garmond is in the citadel
is reaper ok?
garmond requires you to have dueled him on the whispering vaults rooftops, and shakra will help you (overriding garmond) if you've completed the trail's end wish
bro just do a google search if u dont believe me
I guess?
Beast crest is so silly
whats harder, first sinner or high halls
High halls
i dont think anyones doing trails end before threefold melody in first playthrough
man i detest the pop of sk
high halls probably
I did actually
even with shakra
High halls phonk
high halls
No Shakra solos like the whole thing 😭
