sk-discussion

[fallen spoke]

wouldnt that be too much content

[ionic stump]

Yeah

[toxic vigil]

first sinner vs 340 nuke

[fallen spoke]

not that ive played deltarune

[ionic stump]

So nvm give them a month

[lucid trellis]

Sea of Sorrow, Deltarune chaper 5, and Subnautica 2 will release in the same week

[ionic stump]

Can't wait for zoteboat

[fallen spoke]

guys what does shell satchel do

[cunning bobcat]

lets hope

[cunning bobcat]

forgot

[ionic stump]

Sth in steel soul probably

[cunning bobcat]

guys?

[toxic vigil]

nope

[toxic vigil]

give more red tool capacity

[fallen spoke]

not me

[ionic stump]

Kk

[orchid spruce]

boss tier list

major nine sols spoilers, major MIO spoilers

[fallen spoke]

so a yellow tool slot for an extra red slot? sounds nice

[ionic stump]

I would gladly trade for that in normal routes as well

[orchid spruce]

MIO bosses are slowly moving down because

[toxic vigil]

no its not a full red slot, but it applies to all
its like +1.5 pouch upgrades

[fallen spoke]

i sadly didnt read the second line before hitting the spoiler button, noo

[orchid spruce]

cleanse memory

[fallen spoke]

so it makes them do more damage

[orchid spruce]

wash your brain

[brave sable]

Noooo

[fallen spoke]

good idea

[cerulean sable]

they should buff clawline

ong

and make it even better

[fallen spoke]

nah its great

[cerulean sable]

yes but it could be greater

[fallen spoke]

then it would be broken

[cerulean sable]

not broken enough

[fallen spoke]

well any ideas?

[toxic vigil]

capacity, not damage

[cerulean sable]

remove the on hit animatino

the moment Hornet comes in contact she immediately pogos

[toxic vigil]

like
the amount of red tools you can throw like from 24 to 30

[fallen spoke]

OHHHHH

[lucid trellis]

Have Eva combine it with silkspear

[fallen spoke]

thats awesome

[cerulean sable]

perhaps

[cosmic nest]

if hk was made nowdays there'd be an ending where if u kill rad with grimmchild u get another ending

[fallen spoke]

...why?

[cosmic nest]

cus tc like adding fun secrets

like for example twisted child

[fallen spoke]

they have added fun secrets in hk too

[toxic vigil]

first sinner is the best fight in sk

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[cosmic nest]

truke

[fallen spoke]

YES DUDE YOU'RE AWESOMEEE

[sinful yarrow]

My dumbass sat at the trap bench twice

[fallen spoke]

CULTURED

[cosmic nest]

the fact she binds is so awesome

[fallen spoke]

yeah

[still osprey]

I love First Sinner

[zealous rover]

how much extra damage do crits do?

[still osprey]

3x

[toxic vigil]

triple

[zealous rover]

ty

[sinful yarrow]

I wish I didn't spoil the trap bench for myself I was getting annoyed constantly having to run from the marrow to hunters march Everytime I die and was just looking up the bench location

I knew it existed but I didn't know here

[toxic vigil]

snare setter ❤️

[strange knot]

Peak rando lmao knows what I need

[round creek]

||h||||e||||l||||l||||l||||o||

[toxic vigil]

3 ls

[fallen spoke]

3 ls are making me go insane]\

[zealous rover]

how OP would making every crest crit be?

[still osprey]

The way I figured out the trap bench is it was still marked as a real bench by the bench pin on the map so I thought there was a real bench in the room somewhere, so I looked around and found the lever

[tight viper]

does it keep the 2% chance

[zealous rover]

i think the mod just copies the crit from wanderers to every crest

[opaque sigil]

Crits are irrelevant

[still osprey]

Crits shouldn't exist in the first place

[tight viper]

aight then it wouldn't change much

[still osprey]

Unnecessary buff to an already good crest

[tight viper]

2% is nothing

[fallen spoke]

but the sound, its so satisfying

[opaque sigil]

They’re barely a buff they don’t matter

[zealous rover]

its just a silly thing then

[toxic vigil]

crits are a boring attempt to make wanderer intersting

[opaque sigil]

Occasionally you kill a mob slightly faster

[fallen spoke]

BUT THE SOUND, my ears like it

[tight viper]

Crits are a boring sound

[zealous rover]

time for my first time playing silksong on pc to be hella modded

[tight viper]

You know what sound my ears love?

[still osprey]

Circlet is the best sound

[tight viper]

https://tenor.com/view/luck-777-gif-5823073841658263814

[zealous rover]

my ears like hearing the nuclear bomb of every binding tool activating with witch crest

[toxic vigil]

flintslate is peak

[fallen spoke]

multibinder, injector band and trobbio mirror goes hard

[zealous rover]

YES

[sinful yarrow]

WHO MADE THESE BOSSES?

[strange knot]

Team cherry

[sinful yarrow]

Most of these bosses aren't hard like early game but just weirdly annoying

[toxic vigil]

1st sinner is so peak i am constantly refighting it

[sinful yarrow]

What the savage beastfly

[strange knot]

Chat should I do a complete route for my steel soul 100% playthrough

That should be fun as fuck

And I don’t want to be using optimal hundo route cuz it fucking sucks I’m not doing fotf during rasher

[silk monolith]

😭 idk if you need to do that

[strange knot]

I don’t really need that but it’d be cool to get sub 10 hundo this time

[silk monolith]

I got 70% in 6 hours but I died

[toxic vigil]

fotf during rasher lmfao? fr?

[silk monolith]

that should be the pace for sub 10 for hundo

[strange knot]

Yeah that’s the fastest route rn lmao

[toxic vigil]

got hp bar mod - holy hell damage

that was only 3

[silk monolith]

getting to underworks through wisp thicket you dont need to beat fotf

unless you doing hundo and then you wanna do fotf ASAP as possible so yeah that makes sense

[strange knot]

Yeah but it’s faster to do like this

[silk monolith]

understandable im not a speedrunner I ain't doing allat im going through grand gate

[cosmic nest]

imagine if pk was smart

[toxic vigil]

just realized it says " accept " here. just like with lost kin dream essence

[strange knot]

That’s cool

[cosmic nest]

could u imagine hundreds of pure vessels showing up to fight the radiance

[strange knot]

I’m always playing in Chinese so I didn’t notice

[silk monolith]

tf was he supposed to do vs a damn dream invader

[zealous rover]

NOOO I DONT HAVE IMAGE PERMS D:

[cosmic nest]

go into the dream and kill it

[silk monolith]

yeah then his plan did work out then

[cosmic nest]

he had awoken dream nail and obviously he had acess to the radiance since he could put her in the hollow knight

[cosmic nest]

not optimally

[zealous rover]

i have learned i can edit the percent

what would be a balanced but still silly percent...

[silk monolith]

yeah they getting 112 in sub 3 hours thats less than a day since the knight stepped into hallownest

[toxic vigil]

best boss, worst silk skill

[sinful yarrow]

Ok yeah this is just weirdly annoying

[silk monolith]

very optimal

[silk monolith]

desperately needs a buff

[sinful yarrow]

I think I'm getting annoyed at early game silksong bosses because I'm coming off hollow knight where I can just breeze through most of the early game fights

[sage glade]

relatable

[silk monolith]

what are the early game bosses lmao I skip like all of them except moss mommy

[orchid spruce]

moss mommy

[sage glade]

you can't skip bosses

[sinful yarrow]

Moss mommy? What about gruz mother?

[sage glade]

literal posers in chat

[sinful yarrow]

Gruz mother more like gruz mommy

[silk monolith]

I beat her twin i got 9sole credits rolling

[orchid spruce]

congrats

[silk monolith]

me when I spread misinformation on the internet

[orchid spruce]

||truegong?|| nine sols spoiler

[silk monolith]

what the hell is that

[orchid spruce]

|| the boss is slightly different when you play true ending || nine sols spoiler

[sage glade]

if you don't get it then you haven't fought the real deal yet

[silk monolith]

I js went in the ||tower of black roots whatever its called and beat her idk if thats truegong or falsegong||

[sage glade]

did you complete all questlines

[silk monolith]

cheesus how do I tell

[orchid spruce]

||did Yi return to Penglai?|| nine sols spoiler

[light swan]

i gong when you gong but not when we gong

[silk monolith]

oh yeah

[orchid spruce]

||then you fought falsegong good luck|| nine sols spoiler

[silk monolith]

again idk how to tell

[silk monolith]

FAAAHH

[sage glade]

if you can't tell then you haven't done it

it's like really apparent cause it has all the vibes

of being an ultimatum

[sinful yarrow]

THERES SO MUCH SHIT IN THE ROOM

WHY IS THIS SO ANNOYING IM GETTING ANNOYED STOP IT

Savage beastfly more like savage bitchfly

[zealous rover]

i have learned i accidentally dowwnloaded a randomizer

[compact hemlock]

i DIED to bellbeast i'm fucking shoving a taser down my throat and firing it BlueCrybaby

[sinful yarrow]

I don't understand what the point in making contact damage also deal two mask

Its so stupid

[compact hemlock]

especially for bosses like the unravled

like yeah lets make the boss with the SHITTIEST HITBOX EVER deal 2 damage at contact BlueCrybaby

[sinful yarrow]

Give me back my watcher knights and dung defender

I don't understand why people dislike watcher knights genuinely one of the greatest bosses in the game

[compact hemlock]

watcher at the edge is peak

genuinely fun with hunter's

god i wished i had a way to fucking skip the start

i hate the start so much it's not even like the marrow start no it's just thhe first entire area

[still osprey]

Watcher at the Edge is lowkey the best duel in the game besides Second Sentinel

[cunning bobcat]

anyone know a good item randomizer? the only one i found only randomizes pickups

[compact hemlock]

and besides first sinner

first sinner so good

[still osprey]

idk if I'd consider First Sinner a duel

It doesn't give duel vibes

Seth gives duel vibes

[zealous rover]

i just realized if hornet was a bit less lucky and her needle landed on her at the start silksong wouldve never happened

[compact hemlock]

why doesn't it give duel vibes

[still osprey]

Silksong if it was good

Idk maybe it's because she doesn't really use a weapon herself she just kinda has magic needle things

[sturdy plover]

It's more like a test if you're worty

[zealous rover]

there are three boss types in silksong duels, normal creatures, and the horrors

[sinful yarrow]

Dude savage beastfly is so fucking annoying

[mortal nest]

Hey did they patch savage beastfly 2 cheese?

The spawns don't despawn anymore

[sturdy plover]

You are officaly in the silksong community

[fiery burrow]

if the needle landed on hornet at the beginning I probably would've just laughed haha... just a glimpse into my dark reality...

[potent vessel]

shes too big

[sinful yarrow]

Haven't I fought savage beastfly once before

[sturdy plover]

So that was worth the wait

[potent vessel]

nah she could tank it trust me

[still osprey]

Does Karmelita give duel vibes?

I'd say yes but the not as much as other bosses

[sturdy plover]

How do I check how many messages I've sent in this channel

[sinful yarrow]

No this is the first fight? Why does it feel like I've fought savage beastfly before

[mortal nest]

She'd immediately respawn because there's a checkpoint tho

[tight meadow]

Wdym by that

[compact hemlock]

yeah except the duel is her shoving 3 spikes up your ass simuntaneously

[fiery burrow]

Dave always kills me at the start ngl

[tight meadow]

Karmelita feels like fighting some cocky ruler- oh wait

[zealous rover]

she starts on one mask

[still osprey]

Shakra, Pinstress, Garmond, Sentinel and Seth are all duels

[fiery burrow]

pinstress doesn't feel like one ngl

[still osprey]

Lace too I'd say

[tight meadow]

No lace is trying to kill you

[fallen spoke]

same with seth

[tight meadow]

Seth is just doing his job ngl

That ain't a duel that's bro's job

[fallen spoke]

i think only the npc bosses count as duels

[still osprey]

I mean, Pinstress also asks for a fight to the death, it's Hornet that decides to spare her, Pinstress fully intends to kill Hornet, and does so

[potent vessel]

rest in peace silksong

[fallen spoke]

doesnt change the fact that his job is killing you

[tight meadow]

Pinstress, garmond and zaza, and shakra are the only true duels

[still osprey]

Dying to Pinstress ends Steel Soul, she just actually fucking kills Hornet

[fallen spoke]

senti as well

[tight meadow]

Those are specifically called duels

Pinstress wanted to duel to the death

Hornet refused to kill her

[still osprey]

Second Sentinel too

[fallen spoke]

yeah but she specified it before the fight

[tight meadow]

Second sentinel is just pissed

[fallen spoke]

and they also specified it

[strange knot]

Second sentinel says they’ll kill hornet wtf they are just protecting pharloom

[tight meadow]

Second sentinel got confused

[strange knot]

Yeah

[tight meadow]

So they tried to kill hornet

[still osprey]

Second Sentinel just wanted to test Hornet to see if she's haunted why tf they killing her bro

[potent vessel]

does dying in ||the dreams against the old hearts end your steel soul?||

[zealous rover]

what about the ||shakra|| fight?

[still osprey]

It doesn't

[tight meadow]

Read it again

[sinful yarrow]

WHY ARE THERE LIKE 3 FUCKING MINION THINGS IT CAN SPAWN IN THIS TIGHT AS ARENA

[potent vessel]

alright cool

[sinful yarrow]

HELLO? WHO DESIGNED THIS SHIT

[lucid trellis]

in their defense, Hornet kinda fucked things up in act 3

[fallen spoke]

what

[tight meadow]

Yes

[zealous rover]

chat am i blind?

[potent vessel]

i just got back to where i was when i died in my steel soul yesterday

[sinful yarrow]

I'm fighting savage beastfly

[tight meadow]

Very

[still osprey]

You can fight second sentinel in Act 2

[potent vessel]

did it 1 hour faster while getting more things asw

[fallen spoke]

more like savage shitfly

[tight meadow]

AND SHAKRA

[still osprey]

Their reasoning does not change at all

[sinful yarrow]

Like it spawns a shit ton of enemies that take up the entire fucking arena

Like hello?

I can't stop to kill any of them either

[still osprey]

Have you perhaps tried killing the enemies

[tight meadow]

Wait I thought you had to fight them is act 2

[fallen spoke]

like i said, the boss is complete shit

[potent vessel]

any silk skill will kill them

[tight meadow]

Second sentinel just pissed me off

[fallen spoke]

sharpdart them

[tight meadow]

I spammed bombs and it worked

[still osprey]

Nah gou can fight them in both Act 2 or 3

[tight meadow]

That arena is just way to small imo

[fallen spoke]

NO senti is one of the best bosses in the game, fight me

[still osprey]

The only bosses you can actually miss are Garmond, Shakra and Palestag

[strange knot]

no hit karmelita. there is definetly nothing suspisious about it trust

[potent vessel]

🤔

[still osprey]

Looks legit to me !

[strange knot]

That’s just the pogo I frame I SWEAR

[fallen spoke]

man if you used invincibility, it would be so much easier right?

[potent vessel]

if hes invincible why can i see him

[strange knot]

Yeah i spent 400 hours on this

[cunning geode]

looks like she’s getting command grabbed

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-xrd-rev2-jam-kuradoberi-potemkin-potemkin-buster-heavenly-potemkin-buster-gif-19147991

[strange knot]

True!

[lucid trellis]

This could be a very different image in other contexts, but how did this happen?

[lucid trellis]

images taken moments before disaster

[strange knot]

Crazy that I didn’t get hit with gameplay this agressive right?

[zealous rover]

do yall play on keyboard, keyboard + mouse, or controller

[strange knot]

I played on both kb + mouse and just kb

[patent heath]

Controller.

[zealous rover]

ima keyboard and mouse

i just feel so much more precise on them

[still osprey]

Keyboard only

[zealous rover]

another sillier question i got, how peak do you think the hollow point mod would be in silksong

[still osprey]

It's called Rosary Cannon and it's ass

[fallen spoke]

i play with just keyboard, no mouse

true

[toxic vigil]

downloaded awakened gms

[still osprey]

I love agms

[toxic vigil]

wait it didn't work i need to try again

[light swan]

agmspost

[toxic vigil]

okay it works

attempt 2 build ( compass carry fr )

[strange knot]

Illusion you could never do Karm no hit this good

[sinful yarrow]

NOPE NOEP NOPE NOT DOING THIS BULLSHIT BOSS RIGHT BOW

It's so annoying

I also feel like the fight is dragged out for too long

[compact hemlock]

Poshanka

[zealous rover]

i wish beast crests down slash wasnt the pale king special

[compact hemlock]

could've been worse mayhaps

[toxic vigil]

okay 3rd try

that was quite easy

[light swan]

it’s quite balanced and not stupid hard, it’s p much what gms should’ve been

[light swan]

i could do better even without noclip

[strange knot]

I didn’t use no clip what are you talking about? It’s clearly invincibility

[toxic vigil]

the big silk ball attack was a bit annoying but yeah

[strange knot]

Yeah and ur probably right xd

[toxic vigil]

kinda expected some really hard fight like absrad but gms but yeah that was fun

[zealous rover]

what is the taunt key on keyboard

challenge? whatever its called

[toxic vigil]

V

is the default

[patent heath]

Press every button till you find out.

[minor sparrow]

Mine doesn't :((

[toxic vigil]

use cogfly

[minor sparrow]

I am

I've tried it on both cogfly and thunderstore. no dice

It used to work on thunderstore but something is bugging out

Lost sinner and L&C is also tweaking out

[fiery burrow]

team cherry please make taunting cancel boss roars and dialogue 🥹

[minor sparrow]

The lost sinner one is kinda cool though cause it just adds lost sinners nails to first sinner

[pale falcon]

I'm legit going to fucking crashout because of this shitty enemy rush in High Halls

I died there for 22th time so far and I run out of shards to repair my tools

[fiery burrow]

yeah shards are rough

[pale falcon]

I'm so sick of this challenge bro 😭

[minor sparrow]

I don't see the use of the dialogue one as dialogue usually runs pretty short

[fiery burrow]

I'd recommend upgrading your needle like 2 times maybe

[fiery burrow]

Idk Silksong forces you into dialogue a fair amount and its kinda annoying

I don't want to talk to shakra smh

[pale falcon]

I did once

I guess I could thought

[minor sparrow]

Not too often I don't think

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-joe-coin-joecoin-emotiguy-emoti-gif-8523581199470707841

[ionic stump]

oh my god beast crest is op

[fiery burrow]

Its not like a big deal it'd just be convenient

[ionic stump]

i shredded groal

[pale falcon]

Also I accepted Greyroots quest for some reason so I hear this shit's cries every time I open my intentory which pisses me off even more

Fuhh this I'm going to get oil and upgrade Needle again

[minor sparrow]

Like you got lace 1 and 2, shakra, seth, I forgot if clover dancers does, no one gives a fuck about garmond and zaza. I can't think of too many more cause I'm tired

[cunning geode]

need a Gordon Freeman mod that makes Hornet mute and lets her kill any npc without repercussions

[fiery burrow]

true..

Wombat have you listened to dragged into sunlight at all

Just found out about them a few hours ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg4prBtRAGM

[graceful oyster]

After another hour of attempts I have almost breached phase 3

[orchid spruce]

Uhm, do you want me to break the news? 🥹

[graceful oyster]

I have swapped strategies from ||full control|| to ||water flow|| and I'm using ||harness force and qi strike to charged strike the ever living crap out of her||

[plush plover]

the sols

[graceful oyster]

||Is phase 3 true version exclusive?||

[zealous rover]

i hate my past self so much

[orchid spruce]

[graceful oyster]

Okay that's not a bad thing

[zealous rover]

i added a stupid 1/10000 chance for foxy jumpscare every second mod

[graceful oyster]

That makes me kinda glad I am almost finished

So I can go back to finishing up loose ends

[orchid spruce]

Good luck

[graceful oyster]

[compact hemlock]

ok

[exotic cedar]

Damn i opened dead cells entered the game and got jumped by two enemies

(I died)

[compact hemlock]

i'll never do steelsoul until there's a "skip this stupid beginning" mod

[plush plover]

eigong hug

[minor sparrow]

I might have added that when I was doing a random Lost Lace fight and got hit with a foxy jumpscare during her void pillars

[compact hemlock]

i hate steelsoul i hate steelsoul

is there literally any way i can make the beggining not ass to play through

[minor sparrow]

It's a part of the steel soul experience

[fallen spoke]

i know replaying silksong is a pain cause of early game

[compact hemlock]

yes and i hate it don't get me wrong the start isn't that bad but i'd rather be skinned alive and have my skin coated with salted, oiled pieces of glass

[fallen spoke]

so that also isnt that bad?

[minor sparrow]

Honestly, if anything, the dread of having to fight the same 3 bosses motivated me to actually beat steel sound instead of throwing runs at the wall

[faint wave]

how much dmg does volt vessel orbs do the karmelita?

[compact hemlock]

ok give me a second

[minor sparrow]

Hm. Something seems off about this statement

[rocky jolt]

2

[faint wave]

that def not true…

[rich haven]

All of it

[faint wave]

wow

[compact hemlock]

id rather have someone rip off bits of my skin with their bare teeth, coat me in various types of oils while forcing my eyes to stay open, then force me to crawl through a field of glass shards with a pinch of glass fibers heated in just the right temperature to not kill me. Then I'd like burning hot coal to be tied to me while I roll through glass fibers like a piece of meat you're trying to coat with its own sauce. Then, in mg final moments, I'd like to be put in flour and fried like chicken.

does this show you enough how much I hate restarting steel soul

[zealous rover]

i just realized... why does the bell beast have a silk heart

[real crag]

Gi

Hi

[fallen spoke]

be careful what you wish for

[faint wave]

they are a weaver

[plain tundra]

I beat lost lace :D

[compact hemlock]

Does it. BlueCrybaby

[real crag]

How can I kill the lost lace?

[faint wave]

[plain tundra]

Hit until health become zero

[fallen spoke]

lock in

[real crag]

I got it

[real crag]

Thanks man

[faint wave]

flower defeats void

[compact hemlock]

put her in lost and found

[plain tundra]

108:50:10, 90%

[normal bramble]

Pretty good build for her

[real crag]

I go there

[plain tundra]

How so?

[real crag]

I did

[compact hemlock]

saw hunter and made an ungodly noise, thanks

[real crag]

The game %100

[plain tundra]

I did use hunter on LL, it just feels right

[normal bramble]

It forces you to be horrified of everything she does and learn to dodge it

[compact hemlock]

barbed bracelet beats everything

[normal bramble]

Because if you get tapped once you suddenly are about to die

[real crag]

I playing on mobile.

[compact hemlock]

I should do a barbed bracelet only run

[plain tundra]

Oh, the barb
I thought you were talking scuttle because you were on it

[compact hemlock]

or something like that

[normal bramble]

Nope

Just barbed bracelet no silk skills or other tools

[real crag]

Wait

[normal bramble]

That’s the ideal LL build :p

[plain tundra]

If I get four hearts does the last one just stay around in my inventory

[normal bramble]

You can put it in your bellhome

[compact hemlock]

should I do a barbed bracelet only run

[normal bramble]

Do it

[compact hemlock]

hell yeah sister

[plain tundra]

ah
I want to loop back and kill Kahn

[covert bridge]

Phantom runback is painful

[fallen spoke]

phantom??

[plain tundra]

Phantom herself really isn't that bad

[fallen spoke]

they're runback is so easy tho

not that i had to do it

[real crag]

How do I upload the photo here?

[fallen spoke]

click on the + icon

[normal bramble]

?

They barely have a runback

[covert bridge]

I mean getting to phantom

[normal bramble]

Oh the mist?

[plain tundra]

No my bad two seperate areas

[fallen spoke]

oh you're talking about mist?

[normal bramble]

There’s a bench in exhaust organ so like you only ever gotta do it once

[real crag]

#art-discussion

I posted it here.

[normal bramble]

However ya the mist is rough

[plain tundra]

Bell beast song doesn't work in the abyss does it?

[normal bramble]

Nope

[fallen spoke]

...why? that channel has nothing to do with it

[normal bramble]

Too far out for her

[real crag]

I couldn't post it here.

[fallen spoke]

you expect the lil babies to come to the abyss?

[real crag]

But I can post it there.

[fallen spoke]

sure ig

[normal bramble]

I always found where the bell beast will and won’t go interesting

[trim estuary]

That’s because you don’t have image perms yet. Don’t post images of a pirated Silksong copy in the art channel 😭

[normal bramble]

They don’t go to abyss or the surface

The abyss makes sense but like the surface is interesting

[fallen spoke]

you couldve tried hk general?

[normal bramble]

Maybe it’s because the surface isn’t pharloom so

[real crag]

I'm so sorry but I don't have a computer.

[fallen spoke]

console?

[plain tundra]

Is the void the core of the Hollow Knight planet?

[real crag]

No there's not

[fallen spoke]

then get one

[trim estuary]

Oh no we love pirating games here but #art-discussion doesn’t

[real crag]

I am homeless

[real crag]

Okay, I'll remove it.

[scarlet karma]

nope

[trim estuary]

“We?” I’ve never seen you before today

[scarlet karma]

we?

[scarlet karma]

whose we?

[fallen spoke]

ive been here for like a week

im talking about this server

[real crag]

Me too. But I'm doing it because I don't have a computer.

[fallen spoke]

ok you do you

[scarlet karma]

mb

we do support it

[real crag]

Me too

[trim estuary]

You wanna play Bloodborne? I know a guy that knows a guy

[fallen spoke]

oh i think i saw that in the modding discord, mb

[real crag]

I completed the game to 100% on mobile. Next up is Lost Lace.

[fallen spoke]

cool

if you did that, LL shouldnt be a problem

[real crag]

It's difficult to kill Lost Lace over the phone.

[real crag]

Thanks

[icy crow]

Baldur's Gate 3 is so peak

[foggy tapir]

should i add phantoms theme to my cybergrind music folder

[real crag]

I'm trying

[trim estuary]

true…

[fallen spoke]

baldur?? hollow knight reference??

[sinful yarrow]

Dude like why does the stupid fucking boss crush the little thingies sometimes and not others

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/owlbear-owlbear-cub-baldurs-gate-3-baldur's-gate-3-tippy-taps-gif-12356018287763995154

[trim estuary]

WRONG. Norse mythology reference

[sinful yarrow]

This boss just sucks

It's so bad

[fallen spoke]

you're still stuck on it?

[icy crow]

Which one

[real crag]

See you later

[sinful yarrow]

Savage beastfly

[fallen spoke]

beastfly

[sinful yarrow]

I came back with the wanders crest

[normal bramble]

Beastfly isn’t that bad

[sinful yarrow]

It's not hard it's just annoying

[fallen spoke]

beastfly IS that bad

[normal bramble]

Uhhh quick tips to make the fast slightly easier

[icy crow]

You can also get to kill the spawns right when they appear

[sinful yarrow]

Like for some reason it will crush the minion thingies and other times it just doesn't

[fallen spoke]

i dont know about that considering your messages...

[icy crow]

The problem is that Beastfly would likely aim at you if you do

[sinful yarrow]

I can't stop to kill them Everytime

[normal bramble]

The first charge tracks you the second doesn’t the third does
You can get an extra hit after each of his down slams if you dash then turn around and slash
Silk spearing the minions typically kills them or leaves them 1 shot

[fallen spoke]

just sharpdart the minions

or silkspear

[normal bramble]

If he hits the wall while charging he cancels the rest of the charge attack

[sinful yarrow]

I'm doing silk spear

[fallen spoke]

then use it on the minions

[normal bramble]

If you ever feel like you have to get hit get hit by a minion for 1 damage instead of the beastfly then use the iframes

[fallen spoke]

which one are you on? lava or beast chapel

[sinful yarrow]

Beast chapel

[normal bramble]

That’s basically all I can think of

[fallen spoke]

oh, i never really had a problem with it

so i dont have many tips

just lock in, works everytime

[sinful yarrow]

It's so annoying

[fallen spoke]

yeah its bad

[normal bramble]

Never found beastfly 1 or 2 bad tbh

[fallen spoke]

but you havent seen the worst of it...

[normal bramble]

Beast 2 gets incinerated by cogflies

Along with like sawtooth

[fallen spoke]

they were bad, but not hard, not for me atleast

[normal bramble]

Beast 1 I died a few times to

Almost every time like 2 hits away from the end

[fallen spoke]

i didnt die a single time to any of them

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-stornes-gif-13895207286441080832

[fallen spoke]

so i havent really done them all that much

[normal bramble]

Got my revenge on the fly though on my 100% speedrun :p

[rocky jolt]

cheater

[sinful yarrow]

LIKE DUDE LOL THE STUPID THING WAS RIGHT OVER ONE OF THE LITTLE GUYS AND HIS GROUND POUND ATTACK PHASED THROUGH HIM LOL

[fallen spoke]

who has circlet before beastfly in first playthrough bro

[normal bramble]

No one probably I was doing a 100% speedrun on the save as my any% speedrun for the achievements

So I just brought sawtooth right after originally beating gms

[misty drum]

Guys, sea of sorrow is definitely coming on my birthday

[fallen spoke]

..how?

[round creek]

I wonder if a mode harder then ||steel soul|| could be created
Not that I would try it but still

[rocky jolt]

circlet this early

[normal bramble]

?

I just backtracked…?

[fallen spoke]

is there a glass soul mod?

[normal bramble]

You don’t have to do beastfly to beat act 2

[rocky jolt]

also im surprised you only have 5 masks at that point

[round creek]

Idk

[normal bramble]

My first mask shard was Mount Fay on that save

[fallen spoke]

beastfly 1 isnt necessary, do your research before accusing others

[normal bramble]

Lmfao

[rocky jolt]

cold

gotta do my research because Breaddd told me so

[fallen spoke]

well yeah you're accusing someone of cheating for no reason

[rocky jolt]

its satire my gugy

how do you even cheat in silksong that makes no sense

[normal bramble]

Anyways beast 2 also being obliterated by a completely reasonable set up

[rocky jolt]

i was more surprised seeing someone using circlet on this early of a boss

[normal bramble]

Pollip pouch is only there because I literally had no other blue tools (other than memory crystal)

[fallen spoke]

i just facetanked with injector band in my first playthrough

[rocky jolt]

crystal is deadass better

[normal bramble]

True but I didn’t plan to get hit

[fallen spoke]

true

[sinful yarrow]

The only reason I'm doing beastfly is because I'm stuck and have no idea where I'm supposed to go

[normal bramble]

(Ignore the fact it happened in the clip)

[fallen spoke]

polip pouch might be the most overrated tool

[sinful yarrow]

I thought it was through hunters march but I guess no

[normal bramble]

It’s absolute garbage

[misty drum]

Die in one hit

[sinful yarrow]

Is that a geometry dash reference

[fallen spoke]

then look in your map for any spots you missed

[normal bramble]

Did you make it to greymoor?

[sinful yarrow]

Yeah I did

[last marten]

I MISSED THE OPPURTUNITY TO TAKE A BATH W SHERMA?

[normal bramble]

Bellhart?

[sinful yarrow]

Yeah

[normal bramble]

Widow?

[sinful yarrow]

No

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/geometry-dash-absolute-cinema-garbage-gif-9030313209154761483

[fallen spoke]

clinggrip?

[normal bramble]

Then theres your next step

Find a way to free bell hart

[sinful yarrow]

Isn't Clinggrip the wall slide thingy

[fallen spoke]

yess explore shellwood

[sinful yarrow]

I have the wall slide thingy

[fallen spoke]

yep explore shellwood with it

[sinful yarrow]

Ok

[normal bramble]

Find your way into upper bellhart

Through shell wood

Then probably go reexplore greymoor after that theres alottttt in greymoor

[crystal sonnet]

sos when

[fallen spoke]

tommorow

trust

[novel mango]

In an hour

[crystal sonnet]

let the clowning begin

[zenith monolith]

yesss i did it

steel soul done

[fallen spoke]

nice

[zenith monolith]

all i need now is steel heart

[zenith monolith]

thank you

[crystal sonnet]

im so limited playing on a switch

but too lazy to get it on steam

[fallen spoke]

you have all achievements?

[zenith monolith]

me?

[fallen spoke]

if not, thats something to do with no mods

[zenith monolith]

well i only have steam so we ball xD

[fallen spoke]

no the lemon guy

[zenith monolith]

oh sorry

[crystal sonnet]

uh

i havent been doing steel soul or % based achievements

but i beat all bosses

[fallen spoke]

idk do some challenge runs

[crystal sonnet]

why

[fallen spoke]

cause its stuff to do after completing the game

[crystal sonnet]

but i dont really wanna do steel soul or stuff like that

[fallen spoke]

so dont

just make up a random challenge in your mind and do it

[opal pelican]

Im making a cake is anyone gonna want a slice

[cunning bobcat]

Is there any good "Item Randomizer" mod? The only one i found only randomizes pickup stuff.

[zealous rover]

if your using cogfly theres a good one just called "silksong randomizer"

made by, Lucaspl

[cunning bobcat]

cogfly?

[cunning bobcat]

whats that?

[fallen spoke]

mod installer

[zealous rover]

the mod loader i use

[cunning bobcat]

what exactly is a mod loader? like bepinex or a place you install mods

[still owl]

hit me up

[cunning bobcat]

@zealous rover

[zealous rover]

mod loaders are basically a easier way to install mods

[opal pelican]

I got you

[zealous rover]

like 1 click and your done

[opal pelican]

Itll be done in like an hour idk how long cake takes to cool

[cunning bobcat]

aaaand how do i get cogfly? and is the rando actually good

[still owl]

send it to my address

[vivid horizon]

y'roue*

[zealous rover]

ill forward the message with the dowload and yes

[vivid horizon]

Hi people

[cunning bobcat]

does it randomize everything?

[zealous rover]

yes

also i cant forward it, just join the hollow knight modding server

[ionic stump]

wtf since when do barnaks eat cog drones?

[cunning bobcat]

can u just forward in dms?

[zealous rover]

yea

[graceful cairn]

https://github.com/Nix-main/Cogfly/releases/latest

[raw pawn]

That one aknid above bone bottom that's holding a mossberry is so annoying

I keep missing the pogo

[normal bramble]

I always save that one for when I got claw line and faydown

[zealous rover]

would the rosarie cannon be good if it just used shell shards instead of rosaries

[crystal sonnet]

nah

shell shards arent abundant late game

[leaden delta]

oh is there an item rando yet

ik there’s enemy rando

[raw pawn]

I am literally at the end of act 2 and bellhart still didn't ask for any rosaries???

Oh wait do I have to talk to Pavo first for those quests to appear

Appearntly yes because I talked to him, benched somewhere else and the quest appeared in bellhart

[zealous rover]

wanna know a cool buff i thought of that would go great with the beast crests playstyle

when in the "feral" state of the bind, you take 1 mask from things that would take 2

[orchid spruce]

update on blasphemous 2 that no one cares about still very consistently good gameplay, amazing game. found another boss, took 3 tries to kill

[pliant horizon]

after 2 months i finished silksong, grand mother silk was ez ngl

when's the next game gonna come out

[orchid spruce]

grand mother silk isn't the true final boss

so there's still more of silksong for you

[pliant horizon]

wdym? it is

i got the credits

oh wait you re right

holy s

[zealous rover]

would a mod that doubles rosaries gained be busted?

[orchid spruce]

not really

it just eliminates the grindiness of the game

[pliant horizon]

wait there's an act 3?

how do i even enter act 3

[orchid spruce]

just do lots of quests

[pliant horizon]

u mean wishes?

[orchid spruce]

and talk to Carekeeper

yes, wishes

[bitter thicket]

i gotta love this so much lol

[pliant horizon]

who???

[light swan]

Keeper of the Care

(caretaker, the guy in songclave)

[orchid spruce]

elite ball reference

[pliant horizon]

OH

bet alr

[toxic vigil]

get silk and soul

[pliant horizon]

soul?

[light swan]

y’all are going too far ahead

silk and soul is a quest and it activates by talking to the caretaker after doing nearly every other quest in the game

[potent oracle]

trobbiooooooooooo

[pliant horizon]

so i did talk w him, he talked abt the soul thing and lace, what now?

i think we should change of channel

[potent oracle]

did you keep talking with him until his dialogue repeated?

[pliant horizon]

yes

[potent oracle]

did he give you a quest?

[pliant horizon]

no?

[potent oracle]

ok then you havent met the requirements then

[pliant horizon]

i need to do more wishes?

[potent oracle]

you just have to complete a bunch more wishes

[pliant horizon]

argh

[potent oracle]

ye pretty much

[pliant horizon]

even savage beastfly 😭

[potent oracle]

yes 😭

[pliant horizon]

[potent oracle]

[pliant horizon]

i ve heard ALOT abt this guy

worse than groal

which took me nearly 3weeks

[potent oracle]

tbh i only struggles with savage beastfly because i attempted him when i was underleveled

[pliant horizon]

alr alr i should be able to handle him

[potent oracle]

yeah you should be able to handle the 1st fight

[pliant horizon]

talking abt the 2nd 💔

[potent oracle]

oh yeah no 2nd is extremely annoying

only due to the minions

[pliant horizon]

lovely

[potent oracle]

but i mean

i attempted it before i got clawline

so with clawline im sure you can kill the enemies way faster

oh also just use cogflys

to get rid of minions

trobbiooooooooooooooooooo

[last marten]

Is there any way to efficiently see if there are any shard bundles or rosary strings I missed other than an interactive map or a mod?

[pliant horizon]

hm, ye it should be ez i got the honey needle

[potent oracle]

no not rlly

[potent oracle]

wth is a honey needle 😭

[pliant horizon]

the third upgrade mb 😭

of the needle

[analog mist]

I love how

Bell beast is the moment you realize that this game is gonna be HARD.

[rocky jolt]

mossgrub*

[potent oracle]

i didnt get that depiction when i fought bell beast

[analog mist]

really?

[potent oracle]

lmao

[analog mist]

When me and my brother got to Bell beast we both struggled a lot

[potent oracle]

yeah i just kinda died a bit when i goofed around

[analog mist]

Back when we were just a pair of silk issues

[potent oracle]

you had to bring your brother in for bell beast ??? 😭

[analog mist]

What no

We had our each save we were just playing around the same time

[potent oracle]

ah ok

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/optical-illusion-neggativity-meme-gif-8861177370121328289

[potent oracle]

i would say the only bosses i struggles on was savage beastfly and groal the great

[pliant horizon]

me after attempting savage beast fly in far lands prob

[potent oracle]

because for both savage beastfly fights i was there underleveled

and groal the great just kept flipping flying away like a coward

[neat dune]

i was perfectly leveled for every fight except for zango

[analog mist]

You know what sucks

People who pretend losing rosaries or geo is a pain

Because I BARELY LOST ANY SHADES NOR COCCOONS

[pliant horizon]

@potent oracle this is hell..

[analog mist]

Like I already got there I already know what's coming I can just get there EASILY

[potent oracle]

yeah it is

[pliant horizon]

he js destroyed the ENTIRE platform

[analog mist]

And I'm not gonna take any side routes or anything cuz I know that's just gonna get me killed

[pliant horizon]

am i a freakin angel

[potent oracle]

cowardice

every fool fights like a fool and wins like a fool

[analog mist]

There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity smh

Or idk cowardice or intelligence

You get the point

But it's your loss if you well lose all your rosaries

[potent oracle]

what im saying is most people take side routes because we like to explore

it is our loss tho if we lose them

[analog mist]

Well I do take side routes just

[sudden stirrup]

greetings i just got all achievements in sk

i need to flex hah

[analog mist]

Not on the way to my shade/coccoon

[potent oracle]

tbh i only lost them in silksong because i died too many times due to silly mistakes

but it was fine after i took some advice from hornet

[pliant horizon]

genuinely any tips on savage beastfly..

[analog mist]

If I find something well I mark it and go back there later

[potent oracle]

congrats on 100% in less than 30hours

[potent oracle]

like i said, cowardice

[sudden stirrup]

yeah

[analog mist]

well you died and I didnt

So....

[spare isle]

Groal The Great

[pliant horizon]

am all ears

[sudden stirrup]

skill/no skill gameplay?

[potent oracle]

oh no i didnt die to stuff like that

i died to rookie mistakes

[pliant horizon]

wtv gets me rid of this monstruosity

[tight viper]

how many masks do you have

[analog mist]

Well just lock in 😭

[potent oracle]

spam tools in second phase?

[pliant horizon]

let me count

[potent oracle]

yeah i stopped after i "git gud"

[pliant horizon]

8

[analog mist]

Losing rosaries is even harder in silk song because of necklaces and strings

[potent oracle]

now i play steel soul

and die because i dont pay attention

[sudden stirrup]

the best tip is to defeat 4th chorus WITTHOUT stone before. thats what i did on my steelheart gameplay

[pliant horizon]

am poor in shards

[potent oracle]

which has happened twice why am i like this

[raw pawn]

Ngl I have to say "infestation operation" is a pretty cool wish name

[analog mist]

And the fact that coccoons are harmless, one hit and give 9 silk

[sudden stirrup]

then you just euthanise the fly with the stone

[wide mango]

Good luck trying to hit beastfly with it while getting up there tho lol

[potent oracle]

i barely use tools bro how much tools do you be using 😭

[pliant horizon]

ye i didn t use the stone?

[pliant horizon]

oh yk, groal the beast

[analog mist]

I skipped sister splinter on my second playthrough

[steep jolt]

probably an architect user

[analog mist]

Am I a cheater? probably

[pliant horizon]

only 1 😭

[sudden stirrup]

then equip reaper and longclaw tool, and pogo off the fly and hit it with da stone

the explosive rock

[analog mist]

It kinda pisses me off cuz in the entirety of act one there's not many good blue tools to use

[potent oracle]

architect users just need to git gud

[pliant horizon]

its infinite???

[sudden stirrup]

still better than wanderer castw

[pliant horizon]

wanderer

[sudden stirrup]

no, it just stays here if you didnt use it on 4th chorus

[raw pawn]

The whole quest to cure that parasite was very cool anyway

[analog mist]

I've actually tried beast

[potent oracle]

compass 👁️ 👄 👁️

[analog mist]

wrong reply

[sudden stirrup]

compass is yellwo

[pliant horizon]

soo it ll js fall once? and thats it??

[potent oracle]

yeah i use reaper

[sudden stirrup]

if you hit the fly with stone, it dies

[analog mist]

Beast is just stupid lmfao

[potent oracle]

you get one shot

[pliant horizon]

why so much hate on wanderer

[sudden stirrup]

on mIan account i use witch but on my steelhearted speedrun i used hunter v 3

[pliant horizon]

wait wha? one shot???

[potent oracle]

i dont got hate

[sudden stirrup]

yasssss

[analog mist]

I thought it only got staggered

[sudden stirrup]

maybe there was a patch?

[wide mango]

It doesn’t die but it deals damage so that can kill

[sudden stirrup]

i mean i did it like a 3 days ago

[potent oracle]

tbh i still havent used the rock

its still up there for me

[sudden stirrup]

or 5

[wide mango]

It’s a pain in the ass to try btw because even if you save and quit the rock will be gone

So you got one try per file

[sudden stirrup]

use wiselyyyy

[potent oracle]

trobbioooooooo

[sudden stirrup]

and if you fail with da rock im still here for rockless beastfly

[analog mist]

I can't take hornet's beast mode voice lines seriously

[sudden stirrup]

rahh

[analog mist]

raaagh! rawrr!!!

[sudden stirrup]

sounds kinda my dog

[steep jolt]

face reveal

[keen solstice]

Never use reaper

[zealous rover]

question why do people find the savage beastfly so hard, or is there a difference between the one in the chappel vs the quest one?

[potent oracle]

groal the great

[analog mist]

No I deadass thought you were Minecraft movie Jack black Steve

[sudden stirrup]

what fav build? UR NOT WANDERER?

[keen solstice]

No

[potent oracle]

i love reaper

rlly good for pogoing

[sudden stirrup]

Reaper is decent

[keen solstice]

It's the worst crest in the game

[sudden stirrup]

best dmg i use witch

worst is wanderers who spam

bc there are wanderers who dont spam

[keen solstice]

Wanderer spam isn't bad though

It's nothing like architect or beast spam which are 20 times as braindead

[sudden stirrup]

its so no skill bro

[potent oracle]

i have something to admit

[keen solstice]

If you want no skill go play architect or beast

[sudden stirrup]

you cant really spam architect, you can toolspam

[keen solstice]

...and that's basically spam?

[steep jolt]

calling beast braindead is genuinely psychotic behavior

[potent oracle]

before i used to just tank kill hk bosses

[sudden stirrup]

but the attacks are too slow for spam

[analog mist]

"The second encounter is fought in the same arena as Fourth Chorus and inherits its platform mechanic. If not used during the Fourth Chorus fight, the boulder at the top of the arena can be dropped to deal 100 damage to the Beastfly if it hits."

[versed pollen]

You can't spam architect unless you spam

[potent oracle]

i stopped doing that and git gud tho

[versed pollen]

Fascinating observation

[keen solstice]

Beast is literally the 2nd most broken crest in the game allowing you to faceroll almost every single encounter tfym

[analog mist]

I keep fucking replying to myself for no reason

[keen solstice]

It's literally the only crest that needs a direct nerf

[analog mist]

hmmm

[steep jolt]

broken is not equal to braindead, if anything is braindead its wanderers crest

[sudden stirrup]

btw what do u think bout thread storm nerf?

[keen solstice]

Beast is literally wanderer pro max

[analog mist]

beast crest injector band or multibinder?

[potent oracle]

yeah i noticed that lmao

[keen solstice]

Injector

[versed pollen]

Architect is most definitely braindead

[steep jolt]

have you genuinely ever used beast crest in your life?

[silk pumice]

whos the one complaining about crest spam and whos the one whos beat the two hardest bosses as base hornet

[keen solstice]

Beast is literally just better wanderer in every aspect, and a million times more braindead

[keen solstice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1487537402292470092/Beastspeedkill.mov?ex=69d01829&is=69cec6a9&hm=af88432677e65494ea1ab6f8d29b09daec4f51ac4ad9be6581dbb062d8f9b7ed&

It's literally just wanderer, but better

[silk pumice]

no shit it was op, you used sawtooth

[sudden stirrup]

yeah

[keen solstice]

Better damage, better facetanking, better everything

[steep jolt]

oh yes because a crest being good automatically makes it braindead

[keen solstice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1437522190441517096/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_3.mp4?ex=69138c5e&is=69123ade&hm=1ac4aa3e37b189f18952b50fd98ba9a13c2ff631c03544af0973fc0fd67c93be&

[potent oracle]

then why r u calling reaper crest the worst 🙏

[sudden stirrup]

sawtooth detected, opinion rejected

[versed pollen]

Well ideally you always use sawtooth

[keen solstice]

You can facetank almost every single boss in the game with beast with 0 effort

[tight viper]

it's the weakest of the crests

[keen solstice]

Because it's objectively the worst out of all crests?

[tight viper]

worst performance

[keen solstice]

It has no niche and has zero use case

[steep jolt]

ok so how exactly is wanderers better?

[potent oracle]

pogoing?

[sudden stirrup]

worst is shaman imo

[keen solstice]

I said beast is literally a better wanderer

[potent oracle]

not a direct 45 degree down slash??

[tight viper]

Shaman is better at that

[sudden stirrup]

its bind is useless in act3 bosses

[analog mist]

Oh I thought multibinder would make beast mode a bit longer since it extends on every heal

[keen solstice]

????
Shaman is literally the 2nd highest DPS crest in the game and is absurdly strong

[versed pollen]

If you laugh you go to hell

[analog mist]

Apparently it doesnt

[tight viper]

just don't get hit a ton

[steep jolt]

no its not its only thing is fury

[keen solstice]

Doesn't extend the duration

[sudden stirrup]

yeah but bad for begginers

[potent oracle]

fair but i dont use silk skills

[raw pawn]

Shaman pogo is one of the best pogos

[keen solstice]

Its literally always in fury?

[tight viper]

It's better even without silk skills

[steep jolt]

no its fucking not

[sudden stirrup]

i dont i have radiant hog without radiance and merkth

[keen solstice]

Yes it is? Did you play the game?

[steep jolt]

are you stupid??? you have to bind for fury

[potent oracle]

the down pogo?
because im talking about its tool slots

[steep jolt]

yes i did

[sudden stirrup]

i just try to look at crest from a beginners perspectivve

[keen solstice]

Yeah? And you always bind?

[analog mist]

Beast crest Longclaw or injector

[keen solstice]

https://youtu.be/TQ_rh0kFqK4?si=aKB0aXJDTkhx0pZi

You're literally always in bind with beast

[tight viper]

the pogo definitely is better than reaper

and the crest itself is just better

[potent oracle]

im talking abt its tool slots

[keen solstice]

Shaman is the 2nd highest damage crest in the game with how strong it boosts silk skills, only beaten by architect

[steep jolt]

tf kind of fury lasts that long

[tight viper]

silk skill slots are identical to tool slots, so shaman has a better tool slot loadout than reaper

[sudden stirrup]

the more you hit the more it lasts

[keen solstice]

Uh
Beast fury lasts 5 seconds, you gain more duration with every heal and lose duration with every hit taken

[steep jolt]

shaman has the same dps as reapers

[tight viper]

no

[raw pawn]

I mean 2 blue slots for shaman is good enough

And I can see why it had no red tools

And tbh most yellow tools suck

[keen solstice]

Shaman boosts silk skills by 40% and can use 3.

[potent oracle]

you dont get what im saying 😭

[sudden stirrup]

how do you actually count dps? do you count the jump cancels

[sharp cobalt]

Heyyy how ya been?

[potent oracle]

shaman crest has less tool slots than reaper but has morre silk skill slots

[sharp cobalt]

Im back baby

[tight viper]

yeah

[analog mist]

Not using silk skills with shaman is like really a waste cuz not only you have no red tools you're also wasting the damage bonus

[keen solstice]

DPS wise it's architect>shaman>hunter=>beast>witch>wanderer>>reaper

[potent oracle]

shaman replaces both tool slots with silk skill slots

and i dont use skills

[tight viper]

not really

[steep jolt]

hi im trying to explain to this annoying fuck that beast crest isnt braindead

[tight viper]

Shaman needle is amazing

[sharp cobalt]

I agree

[keen solstice]

Except it is braindead

[steep jolt]

respectfully, are you fucking stupid

[sharp cobalt]

I agree

[raw pawn]

I actually think shaman is very similar to the knight movement in HK more than wanderer

[keen solstice]

You definitely are

[sudden stirrup]

has silk skill buff and you can buff it more by volt filamnet

[keen solstice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/H6WBkSXYRTM?si=iPTY79Kx4AWqoMRB

[steep jolt]

hunters crest somehow equal to beast crest now? i thought beast crest was the best crest and braindead

[keen solstice]

Beast is completely braindead and needs a nerf ASAP

[sharp cobalt]

Shaman would be my personal crest of choice but the bind sucks ass

[analog mist]

Reaper is bad because it's slow, bind effect cancels when taking damage for some reason, having to collect the silk is annoying, yeah

[keen solstice]

Hunter has the same damage and performance as beast

[sudden stirrup]

why actually nerf? its a 1 player game haha

[steep jolt]

it genuinely doesnt

[sudden stirrup]

reaper is just a safe beginner choice

[keen solstice]

Except it does?
Both have 78 DPS and have 2 red slots

[sharp cobalt]

I like reaper

[potent oracle]

i will admit beast crest is good

[raw pawn]

You even can't heal mid air like the knight

[trim estuary]

Let’s settle down, chat. The only braindead users here are the Reaper mains

[versed pollen]

I love collecting the little silk blobs from reaper because it takes my attention away from the boss and gives me nearly nothing in return

[steep jolt]

oh in that case hunters shaman architect and beast are all braindead and if you use any other crest you are a fucking idiot

[analog mist]

Guess it makes sense since it's the first crest a (normal) player finds

[potent oracle]

but saying reapers crest is bad i dont get

[sudden stirrup]

i like evolve hunter bc im used to taking little hits

[analog mist]

The first one you can get is actually beast

[sudden stirrup]

yeah thats right

[keen solstice]

Hunter and shaman want you to avoid taking damage
Architect and beast can just spam.

[analog mist]

Which is fucking crazy

[raw pawn]

No it's wanderer

[tight viper]

On it's own, it's fine. Comparatively, it's bad

[sudden stirrup]

and you get it just before moorwing which might be hard for novices

[analog mist]

Wanderer needs cling grip?

[trim estuary]

When does Wanderer become obtainable?

[raw pawn]

The first crest you can get is wanderer

[potent oracle]

yah i can see that

[tight viper]

You need cloak for Beast, Wanderer can be grabbed first

[analog mist]

Or wait wormways door

[sudden stirrup]

wall jump

[keen solstice]

Grabbing wanderer first is pointless

[raw pawn]

Simple key

[analog mist]

I forgot about wormways key

[keen solstice]

Getting flintslate is alot more valuable

[potent oracle]

o wait ye wormways

[analog mist]

Yeah you can reach mossgrave with that

[steep jolt]

ok i just give up on this dumbass argument

[analog mist]

Where does one get Flint slate I forgor