#sk-discussion
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You know
Guys I got some new items in the bellhart shop I don’t understand
Lol
I think the whole point of this ambiguity is to make it look like the world of HK is just so vast and incomprehensible
Desk, gleam lights, bell lacquer. Are any of those good for anything?
Fantasy writers when they realize they forgot to put the abyssal darkness before time itself that yearns to consume all into their world
I didn’t really understand they’re description
and fill the gaps where there's not really anything
Decoration for your bellhome
I lowkey wanna try TE Speedruns but it looks like hell
Oh f that lol
"lost garmond is better than pure vessel"
I got bored of any% runs a bellthrower ended 3 of my runs
Like I've a video overanalyzing a map sprite from Cindrill showing paths going away from Pharloom
I need my rosaries
There's like two indentical sprites put over each other
“Radiance is racist and homophobic”
this person literally build an entire map based off of these scribbles ahahahaha
this one is shrue though
that video has some funny takes
They were comparing sprites of dead bugs from the background of lands of storms to the sprites of skrills from nameless town
runt is a better written npc than quirrel
like that's honestly ridiculous
Wouldn't it be false though? She's very willing to lend power to anyone that follows her
Oh I read Hornet smh
Hollow slop:lace light,you start with 3 masks cuz lace is frail as shit and the game is mid just like lace
noo broo they look similar because they're just very simple bugs
weary pilgrim is well written npc than pale king
Radiance hates everyone equally
that's the whole point, there are kingdoms and there's this "great beyond" with endless wastes and very primitive bugs there
Hornets only racist iirc, idk about homophobic
worried pilgrim may actually just be the best hollow knight character
It's not THAT deep
I find most theories to be stupid
But there a few that are cool
I could definitely see her killing gp cause he's a loser
There's no evidence that she's homophobic but she just gives off that aura yknow
Phantom + green prince
Multiple vessels
On her hunted list
2 of those had a good reason

Green prince she was kinda just dicking around I guess
Green prince part was re-written before release, that's why she suddenly became awkwardly cruel
What
what...
what was he like before
...how did they not 
It's been a while, I don't remember the details but that's the gist
That dude has something against HK idk why
its all ragebait
some shit lace would say
Maybe idk
Respect the bit
Idrc
someone needs to make a HK plothole iceberg
Bro went from bitch face gay to I'm a widow ahhh
I just enjoy both games
and the last level is the HIve
Lace hallucinations on the bottom
No you can kinda explain that
nahh the Hive is just horrible
Beephobe
What why Vespa is suddenly like 50x bigger for no reason?
the hive is the worst area in terms of its lore in the entire HK universe imo
where can i find the green prince lore before it was rewritten
Why the hell does the QUEEN of an isolated region of Hallownest who despises the PK and the entire civilization of Hallownest and even SEALED THEMSELVES AWAY FROM THEM all of a sudden trains the DAUGHTER of the PK?
she grew
Growne'd*
hivesteel
the hive was first added near deepnest and they moved it i think
Imo that's not really that big of an issue. Irl bee queen grow significantly as well
Probably just chill with Herrah
she prengut
maybe, but they have SEALED themselves tho
Also there's not really any indication of that anywhere ever
like it's just super random
plus I just hate how boring the Hive is
"Probably" yeah, I noticed
why would vespa care about protecting hornet against citadel 
now that i think about it
ngl i'd put the hive same tier as wisp thicket if it didn't have cool aesthetics
she doesn't
These are memories
The only reason I could see kornet kollow hnight being there is because of some diplomatic agreement between factions
the entire area is 3 big rooms with exactly the same assets and hallways
she says something about train so you can protect yourself from they or something, aka citadel or whatever
What?
Why is there literally no room for honey storage or anything like that?
i don't remember
that's a memory from before
its a really pretty area tbf but yeah could've gone with some extra setpieces
oh I see, that too
YEAH, THAT TOO ACTUALLY
Hornet was told that she was supposed to become the watcher of Hallownest, or whatever
She's just talking about anyone that might want hornet's strength not the citadel specifically
Which isn't that weird
she was the sentinel of hallownest
She says nothing about the citadel
which would be kinda helpful for Hallownest, which, as Vespa herself said, they don't give two shits about
direct quote btw
yeah, so that would be in the best interest of Hallownest. Vespa said "we play no part in it's perpetuation"
or some shi like that
ngl this scene added nothing valuable to red memory
I don't think there's anything suggesting it's about the Citadel
although it's kinda weird Hornet doesn't seem to know about the Citadel when she gets back to Pharloom...
Maybe not in particular, but she may know that the weavers are being chased by something
cause like you know, she was surrounded by the Weavers
perhaps
vespa says that for anyone who might want her strength lol. it's a memory
It made me tear up
honestly
but not because it's a good piece of lore, it was just good fan service
was happy saw old character
(i gasped when i saw the hive and city of tears elevator)
plus it's just like "OHHH SO THERE WAS THIS THEORY MANY YEARS AGO AND NOW IT'S CONFIRMED OMG"
Idk kinda helped me see vespa's mentor role to hornet. Again I wish it was of a longer segment to get more more acclimated with their relationship but Idk how to do that without it being to interruptive of the gameplay
Contradictions weren't the first thing I thought about
It was just the emotional response
Maybe just more dialogue or an exploration section
Act 3 probably could have leaned into hornet's backstory more
I guess the problem with the big reveal of Vespa being Hornet's mentor is that the developers didn't know if it was canon at the time they added the Hive to HK.
i would want to see more interesting dialogue like herrah and white lady, vespa says nothing of interest
And they didn't put any details pointing to that there
So it doesn't really work that well, because it doesn't really connect to anything
In retrospect maybe it's more of an issue with the lifeblood dlc only adding hive knight and not doing much afterwards
it would be more fitting if they kept the hive near deepnest, but it's still fine to me
Prior to that it seemed like the Hive was just an isolated civilization and they didn't want to do anything with Hallownest. So much that they sealed themselves from everyone else
Like, yeah, Vespa showed uo but more about the hive would be cool
YES ABSOLUTELY
I think that was the initial intention
Considering they had a direct line of contact at the time it's ok, but that would have made more sense
also what's up with the HIVE steel?
There's nothing in the Hive indicating that they were making any weapons at all
Steel from hive 
and based on Plinney's description it seems like it's a very high-quality work
would make more sense if there was something in the hive suggesting they were making this stuff
but like.. there's literally nobody there who would use it except for the Hive knight
It'd be funny if the bees were a bit like irl bees where they could lose their stinger but they have to replace it and it's not connected to their organs
yeah, that would be fun
I mean that's also the problem
The hive doesn't look like it's a hive really
Idk how unique give knight is. Like is he hive knight shaped because he's the one specifically protecting Vespa or were there more and they just died out
why does applying pale oil to hornet's needle makes it hivesteel
It's bee themed, but it doesn't feel like an actual place where the bees live. They could've added some mechanic where the small bees would hatch from the cells
Because if there were more, then there's your reason
It's not that it makes it hivesteel, it reveals the hivesteel underneath incrementally
and not this bs...
it's dirty and the oil cleans it so you can see the hivesteel pattern on it
fuck team cherry for putting the bench in the far corner of the area 
ummm when does this happen? I just started exploring the marrow
Why? Idfk
like i'm sorry, this is just kinda dumb
Act 7
THERES 7 ACTS
can we eat it like honey
It doesn't, after several sharpenings Plinney just notices that
Probably not
no it's just a forging technique
valid
it's not like a unique material it's just steel forged a certain way
Kind of similar to how nailsmith was carving some fuckshit for perfected nails
yeah, but it suggests there's some steel industry in Hive
@orchid spruce (Nine Sols) the ||Fengs|| are SO cool and their leadup was crazy
which is not even hinted at in the actual Hive
yeah
that's the problem
this theory was abandoned originally I believe
I imagine that they import it and then make their own designs
I get what you mean
i'm so happy to hear that
Not sure why all of a sudden they decided to bring it back
who?
but again.. the Hive doesn't look like it really has that many knights using actual weapons
the siblings?
Then why would they have an entire industry for it?
||Fuxi and Nuwa||
Nine sols
She called us Invincible... Called us Fearless... Called us Sensual... Called us Mysterious... Called us Enchanting... Called us Vigorous... Called us Diligent... Called us Overwhelming... Called us Gorgeous... Called us Passionate... Called us Terrifying... Called us Beautiful... Called us Powerful...
She lied...
thank you for contributing nothing
like there's no trace of any form of metalworking
you could argue that it's just in some old abandoned and sealed off part of the hive, but that's an excuse more than a proper explanation
Also the hive is dying by the time we get there regardless
precisely, it's a narrative contradiction
That was a weird question to me
in reality it's design oversight
yeah them
it's not true
they're creepy af
That's part of why I like them
They are cool but hard to draw
lmfao
I'm talking specifically about them having some major manufacturing or anything. It's not like they can't have some sort of special design for lets say a warrior of the hive
in the wanderer's journal the author (forgot her name) enters the Hive after the Knight and says it wasn't really impacted by the infection
Lace is racist
10000 hr philosophical and narrative analysis of silskong vs
it's possible that the hive is much bigger than the explorable area in game
hello homosexuals
Hello
happy wilson wednesday
Hiiii
Both lead to the same conclusion
The Hive has always operated under the hivemind framework, therefore infection doesn't really make it all that different
Ok
💅
hello gay
Coo
i got a new fucked up keyboard and i still need to get used to it
Ye
the bees make use of The Third Dimension to access the other parts of the hive, but the knight is bound by the rules of 2D video game movement
not sure if you noticed but the background npcs in the arena are doing Daoko's me!me!me! dance
Yo with the cogfly took I can only set out 1 at a time?
Im blaming you
4 can be active at a time
Do yall hope there is a Hollow Knight 3?
I'm sure there will be
Oh so if I spam it 4 times I let 4 out? That’s awesome
there is always enough time to hop on videogames with ismoil just stop doing other stuff like eating or sleeping
No
i don't want a 3
i don't do those at all
Honestly I would want ONE more game
No, i want something different that's a different genre but has the same artstyle
Ye
I bet theyre gonna make it about racist lace
I don't know what that is an I don't care
your boss understands why you cannot come to work just tell them "im gonna play btd6 with ismoil"
But idk, it probably won't be what I want anyway
if you spawn another while there's already 4 then the oldest one gets destroyed iirc
I have been SEVERELY underutilizing water flow
I do that way there is a Trilogy. But I don't want to think that far ahead considering silksong likely has many DLC's to go
how about i set you up with the boss instead
to get money for your work or to play btd6
Lace is the worst character ever
latter
Primal aspid vs that one drill throwing insignificant fuck from silksong
I am hoping silksong gets at least 4 DLCs. Its crazy though considering the game is already so long and feels complete
It’s funny cause I spawn another one while I had 1 out but I didn’t see 2, like it replaces the active one
why not both
@earnest drift
put up a good word for me thanks
NO
hm
NO NO NO NO NO NO
odd reaction, it's a neat bit of trivia
Too much hate on my girl lace
what
I would love the third game to be about the Steel Spire and the Masters. I feel like that's what TC are trying to build-up for. It is also suggested they can "compress" Higher Beings. It would be so cool to explore a new kingdom/territory with the Steel Spire at the top, and confront the Steel Masters. It would also be so cool for the Shade Lord to confront the masters
It would like the finale of HK
God i feel like they ragebait so much
But these are just my wet fantasies
we will see a steel city dlc in the future i think
We don't know
i think i would want a game set in hk's universe but of a different genre and from a different perspective than these descendants of pk
you say compress higher being and I think of Wall-E turning a god into a trash cube
I am boring and want to play as Lace in the third game 😆
hk game where we play as menderbug
I honestly hope it won't be a DLC. It sounds too vast and too important for it to be a DLC
Plus Sea of Sorrow will be pretty big, most likely
There will have to be at least 3 new areas, or sub areas at least
Gacha game completely unrelated to anything in HK but it's in the verse (you can pay extra for super omega ultra legendary mythic shade lord that gives +10000% damage)
it's basically a lottery where you might get desolate dived at any time and get your run killed
I am doubtful that it will be only because of how soon it is coming out after release
That won't happen for sure, I think
no it will be small
Pond of Pessimism
touhou lostword be like
There's quite a lot of cut content tho
Hmm that is true
no cause we will have a submarine
they were already working on it
So they had a bit of a headstart
gays what are you talking about I have maps of the areas
I feel like sos will add only two areas
well it's like a large pond
not quite big enough to be a lake though
I am curious as to where sea of sorrow will be on the map (Anybody who knows about leaks do not answer I only want to speculate)
sea of sorrow, lifeblood spire and ocean of depression
3 areas
Nevermind
lmfao
I apologize
🆘
Is ocean of depression like mentioned somewhere or are you joking
These are not leaks, these are from older maps
hornet will be shipwrecked
Its fine our brains passed each other I sent that message at the same time
guys but legit
SoS will have a double meaning
there will be a Bay area, there will be the Lab area, that's 2
LEAKS?!
no
there's a leak in the boat?!?!?
oh my god we're all going to die
I like the theory that hollownest and I think pharloom as well takes place under an ocean
wow people here are not very bright...
the ACMI maps are probably somewhat accurate to what we will be seeing in Sea of Sorrow
A game about the city of steel where you play as somebody rebelling against the masters would be cool
Hornet DIES in sea of sorrow ( fucking finally)
100% there will be something underwater and above the water
sea of sorrow leak
brochacholiosium doesn't know the lore :C
I mean to be fair they did literally show this structure in the trailer
yes, I don't think they will change the map drastically
Sea of tomorrow
yes yes, double headed trobbio boss fight
Its unclear to what degree- but considering the ACMI maps show the submarine, and the same submarine is shown in the reveal trailer, same with the Lifeblood Spire/tower
there are also some Pharloom Bay assets
m
I don't really tbh. Only at a base level. I have watched so many videos on it and still haven't comprehended it
Not really
Most bay assets that are in the game currently are small
it'll be these sort of landmarks/areas but not necessarily the exact same map layout
No I mean there's the SURFACE
what?
Huh?
I wonder what will make us go to the lifeblood spire
wait until he hears about the surface-er
Like the Kelp used in Murglin, the only major thing is that we have the map segment, which people love to forget when they speculate where its placed...
Wym?
and the surfacest
Despite it litterally fitting right next to Bilewater, where tf else would it go? Helps that its near its old location, which was next to Greymoor where Verdania now is
yes there are
what are these words
nameless town is the surface
Not in game, as in, within the games files
Can @ lace just not exist lol
I know, because I've looked through the Game Files a few times
ts guy got cut TWICE
literally
Isn't nameless town still underground?
did they say it was in the game files?
brochachobludshladingihisiousnessials don't know the ball
the game files have been pretty well scrubbed of anything relating to the bay, except for the map segment and a few kelp peices
Pharloom bay could be next to blasted steps instead of bilewater
there's the surface memento there
nobody said anything about the assets being in the current game files
how many masks do you think twisted bud ending requires?
no it can't
sand
Considering blasted steps was filled with water
no
Once again... its map segment
Get much as you can
I'm on a second save btw
greymoor was too proll y
yes, blasted steps is sandy
Why not lol
The less masks you have the better you have to play
no, just no?
The Gorge wasnt filled with water
the poo shaman from cut area pharloom bay
Ye but they may be the highest point but above that I think might be ocean
It had a river, not was a body of water
I forgot to do it on first save so I got cursed in act 3
for crest
because the maps show the submarine going to the right, also the canvoys brought hornet from that side
Blasted steps used to have tons of water
Maybe not totally submerged but there was water
they should add an area called Graymoor
yes, it makes perfect sense
(not to be confused with Greymoor)
Gaymoor
Things change

Bruhh too many leaks in chat imma peace out
There is mount gay
silksong is so gay
the DLC will almost certainly have to do with lifeblood. Zylotol said it was found in SALT-striken waters. There are salt pillars in the pale lake
there is no straight character in this game
Every area name should have gay in it
Then i will play the game
nah slawghanlawgington
Ok
Still possible
Not really
Especially considering Weavenest Murglin uses assets explicitly called Kelp, explicitly said to be next to "salty waters"
I dont see why there couldnt have been more waters
I just dont want pharloom bay to be in shitwater
nahhhh
too bad? thats just where the area is
where its been for 99% of the games history
brooo whai do you need it to be there
Could be in
just don't
Something I hope for the DLCs is that they arent all focused on end game content. Like not all in act 3 or something
What’s wrong with saltwater? It can be clear as well
Bilewater fucking sucks
It cant be in the blasted steps, no salt water there
Where it makes sense to be is in the places explicitly stated to be next to salty waters in the current time
Bilewater just has good music 
brochachiliophagoniuraiusihimanilogipotologimanotriomoclatinidihium
it's definitely pharloom bay
There’s clear water in bilewater, by shakras master, as well as the giant lake in putrifoed ducts
Pretty sure the harp by the Pale Lake also references salt, as in, salt water
this is what it looks like to be outside of blasted steps
Near the edge of blasted steps, it would be nice if some of the remaining river led to pharloom bay
Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate groal the great since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'hate' for groal was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for goal the great at this micro-instant. For groal the great . Hate. Hate
Doesnt change the fact bilewater sucks
also where's this platform in the cutscene???
the river is dried up completely, or redirected into the Citadel, it doesnt exist anymore to feed into the Bay
actually
Random Idea: Message a friend asking "When's your birthday?" and if it has already passed, reply "Happy late birthday" but if it's coming in the near future (say, a month or so), reply "Happy early birthday"
it'd make no sense considering the piles of evidence for it to be anywhere but here
What
on every single playthrough past the first one I didn't have any problems in bilewater for some reason
Could, you never know if its just another lie made by the citadel
Groal takes a while to beat, but walking through bilewater doesn't reall y
I don't even have a map
🙂
I already quit shitsong but having bay be in bilewater would be terrible
so they just lied about the river they destroyed for... no reason? Just to feed your theory on where the bay would be?
Yes
Bilewater isn’t that bad 💔, and the bays location doesn’t influence how bad or annoying it will be
We get it
No reason to theorize anymore because the dataminers showed us everything
Hornets journey through pharloom was just a lie made up from citadel
Youre right ✨
Wake up.
Vro is saltier than pharloom bay
it's mostly well designed except the boss and its reward. people tend to overhate swamp areas. also in terms of worldbuilding it's one of the best areas tc has ever created
It wouldn’t even be them lying it would be the karakas 💀
Also music is great!
that too
also Khann was said to be born to be the last to rule
Bilewater is the best area tc made
The pharloom bay that doesnt currently exist
The same pharloom bay that we also dont know anything about besides it having water
Silksong Theory: Crust King Khann is Atla
No, khann is clearly gms
There’s literally a room in the game that has the same plants in the bilewater weavenest
Silksong theory: Khann lays eggs
we know that small ceiling guys used to be the enemies there
they just decided to move their river for no reason XD
Pharloom Bay is absolutely going to be near Bilewater, yeah
Would be cooler if it was next to blasted steps
Eh
Bay being near bilewater sounds good to me
why
It would be very dumb given that they’re still adding bay and in the final game steps are dry
nahh I disagree
I don't think anything will ever be added there
UNLESS they do
The idea that some of the river still remains would be nice
-salt stricken waters dialogue is clearly foreshadowing for dlc plus leaked map shows lifeblood
-kelp
-reveal trailer caption
they might actually make it possible to go a little further, I think, but not too far
nah i like how everything is so horrible and hopeless for everyone
Dont know salty it really is tho
Lol
how do you know on which side the river was
I dont, im just saying it would be pretty cool
So at least 3 new areas, maybe 4
I thought they said only 1
Would be cool
I fear it could just be the fast travel that goes under though
Sea of sorrow is mostly cut content i think
they never said any
but, anyways evidence for the bay being next to bilewater
-In game
We know it has lifeblood, and that lifeblood was found by Xylotols master under "salt stricken waters"
Weavenest Murglin is "sat between salt and stone", and uses kelp assets
Theres rooms in Bilewater that seem like they are entrances to another area.
-from game assets
Weavenest Murglin uses multiple assets explictly called kelp, which would make sense if the area bordered, I dont know, a massive body of salt water
-from the games development history
The Bay has always been in that area. Originally, it was in place of Verdania, and later from the ACMI maps got moved to guess where.... Next to BILEWATERRRRR
Thought thy did
getting a big dlc is cool, hk never had an expansion where an entire area was added
idk maybe
We already know
Godhome is pretty big but yeah
WHY IS THE SOS TRAILER OST GOOD ALREADY GIVE ME THE DAAAMNE DLC
i was talking about an actual hallownest area
more yaoi?

there are lightnings
The ACMI map from August 2025 even has them starting to map out the Bay's redesign from the ACMI maps, as they seemed to decided to make it a more full area
btw the map is lying
When originally, it was just the one big room
it doesn't reflect the state of the game as of august 2025
Yeah, its all sorts of a mess
they prolly stopped updating it
But it does have the sketches of what would make sense to be Pharloom Bay 2.0
IM LISTENING TO LAST DIVE I'M ASCENDING
we will have at least 2 areas that means 2 new osts
at least one boss will have its own ost so that makes it 3
maybe the town in pharloom bay has its own track too so we will hear at least 4 new bangers
bro
OH GOD IS THAT HEAVEN
I found
lol
found stuff
Plus cutscene music and getting the new crest
Melancholic bay
where is last oasis
just shoved it right on the gate to Pharloom Bay
sad waters
because that makes sense
oh my
I like these quite a lot
Trash song
never thought the idea of sea of sorrow being a seperate area
HOLY I WANT TO CRY
Sybau 
True sea of sorrow
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thats just MT going absolutely crazy
that's a freaking ocean of mourning
this is soo good omg
Though that map idea is good, I might steal it for World Weaver...
It's based on actual screenshots and sketches
Wtf is that symbol
Realistically, Sea of Sorrow would probably be where Pharloom Bay was supposed to be.
Yeah, MT Cubes work is insane
You eat crabs there
Least, pretty sure thats MT Cubes work
Is it out
ahahaha it's supposed to be the submarine ig
..that's a claw
dream world like lost verdania or..?
highest quality silkpost ive ever seen
That's bs however, no indication of that
what?
Me and MTCube were chatting a bit ago about how to go about expanding the Gloom, and connecting the Bay that Team Cherry makes to it
this is legit so good
Resultiung in this map, Wormways has been moved and flipped because of the Cloverfields
this is hunters march and coral gorge if tc knew how to make proper level design
a true skonger
Divers webbing would actually be cool but like...how would that work
Hornet turns into a diving bell spider?
Real weavenest atla 🥹
Why is nyleth ost so peak
uh... this might shock you
...The Hunters Nest and Coral Gorge are Team Cherrys work
halfway home basement connecting into hunters march is such a good idea
just the 2021 map, not the current
i know, they ruined it
I LOVE making up some areas and they might look like
MTCube took the ACMI maps and translated them into a map like you'd see in game
cutting half of hunters march resulted in a more linear act 1 because they cut the direct shortcuts to greymoor
it's so bad i don't remember it
there is none
and I've been spending a bunch of time to try and convert ACMI screenshots into functional tilemaps (collisions) within Unity
They havent been decorated yet, that comes later
caramba
Mount Fay - Hollow Knight Silksong Menu Login Screen OST Official Soundtrack Chapter Song Lyric Video Hollow Knight Silksong Trailer Music Hollow Knight Silksong DLC OST Hollow Knight Silksong OST Silksong Soundtrack Silksong DLC all endings Hollow Knight Silksong all soundtracks Hollow Knight Silksong DLC Hollow Knight Silksong PC Modded Hollow...

Its going to be a long time to all be ready though
mount fay if it was good
modders are crazy we will probably have a playable april 2021 map within a year
a year? 
that's acutally genius
Considering that Im currently a modder working on such a project
We really need to know what's there
The trouble is not many people are willing to learn how to use Unity to decorate scenes
God honestly I would love TC to add all of this stuff to the game
I don't even care if it's too big
single individual makes better level design in couple months than team cherry with over 10 years of experience 
IT'S REALLLL THE PROJECT ACTUALLY EXISTS
Is it yuri time?
fay lowkey
I want my Silksong to be the juiciest and butteriest game possible
The MTCube extended map might also happen from me, but
it’s always yuri time
it is always yuri time
thats many years off
ahahahahahaha
what ships are we feeling today
no lowkey I want thi s
Cut through lowkey tuff
what is that bro
No.
we are just saying shit atp
What's pale bro doin at the top
team cherry has gone WOKE
I did not care for Lost Lace. It insists upon itself
that's an infernal take
honestly... cough cough... the menu theme
Why it had the dies irae
Honestly true I thought the main menu theme was a placeholder before release
Idk why
the theme is not memorable enough imo
Diet irae is the first thing you hear,Very important
The fandom also gaslit itself into thinking scuttlebrace was cut because they didn't like it
it does indeed appear to fall
bone bottom gets good after 2 minutes
as a musician I'm not too impressed by ts
You only hear slight dies irae in bonebottom
Bonebottom is always good
Okay well (Nine Sols) ||The Fengs|| was insanely cool,
The fact the first thing you hear is the dies irate is very important
Beat them and it was SO fun
bone bottom
now imagine sitting on a hard, uncomfortable chair
I love how all of these bosses have been taking me so long and get my heart pumping
I miss this
wow
have you met ||Ji||? nine sols
Bonebottom Also has dies irae but it's more hopefull
I honestly would love a bunch of new areas
Last dive completely transforms the dies irate into hope
Last I saw him ||he did the fortune telling||
sure it's important but dies irae is literally everywhere in the game
every theme has dies irae except abyss themes
Any tips for cradle lace
That's what i like about game bosses fr
I don't think last dive has dies irae
Yes that's why you need to hear it first
I got my heart pumping today while beating a boss
It does
do they..?
not sure if it's true tbh
Well yeah, I LOVE it, but so many bosses just didn't get there for me
some of them are pretty hidden iirc, there was a video explaining it
hmmm maybe
Most of MIO's bosses were fun but only the final ones were kinda hard
I like how Lace is humming GMS' theme
And they only took me 20-40m
uhh... well for one, you can climb up the wall on the right, jump off and heal in the air
gms theme is also just dies irae spam, you hear it 6 times in a row at the beginning
menu theme is fine imo, i don't think we should expect very high standards for a menu theme
What about crest
btw I just realized we finally got a boss in the Abyss
we were supposed to get 3 in HK and didn't :C
whatever crest you're comfortable with

17 seconds · Clipped by Monor531 · Original video "Last Dive ‐ Hollow Knight Silksong OST Official Soundtrack Original Score" by Qiuvox
ok
how much time are yall putting into making fake maps bro 😭
if you hit her parry move, jump over where she was standing
she'll either attack forwards from that spot, or she'll appear behind you in the air and attack diagonally downwards
isn't that like a half of dies irae tho..
The hollow knight was really easy so grand mother silk will be too right
if she does the ground one you can land behind her and get some easy hits in
i love fake silksong maps they are so creative
or like pogo or something idk
this one looks stupid
uh oh
Is theres something missing or hk was this small
the surface isn’t there
it's missing the abyss but it's not on the zoomed out map so
I honestly havent seen the hk map in a long time
I guess the abyss gets grouped in with ancient basin and so doesn't show on the zoomed out map
Oh
are pill and tipp gonna get me quests forever or nah?
no you can eventually finish all of them
Hk was small and sloppy and trash
alr
Hk was ok
Which silk skill should i use for cradle lace
low budget slop
Silksong is also ok
hk had better room design
rune rage
I just realized that the chaper 2 introduction is the most underwhelming out of all of them. In the first chapter's introduction, hornet gets kidnapped, causes a silk explosion from her cage, and falls right into mosshome. Chapter: hornet defeats a literal god, causes a massive void explosion, and the entire kingdom starts falling apart. Chaper 2: hornet discovers a new place
Hk was an offense to silksong
why is the graveyard at the top of the city
the simple delivery ones can be repeated infinitely
silksong is kinda mid but alr, can't beat packman ofc
I loved the citadel entrance though its really cool
alr
What did you except?
well if you take the elevator to the underworks act 2’s intro is pretty threatening
what
???
Me after the gauntlet of high halls
I mean the elevator does fall down
It was beautiful
They just kept coming man
the whole goal of act 1 was trying to reach that 'new place'
There's more
Trial of the fool type shit
No you have to do rhe higher halls gauntlet
thank god it does
At least lord fool was kind enough to give breaks 😭
Damn bro there’s more?
underworks are peak
Yes
I hate gauntlets
guys we need higher halls
Ik but it's still underwhelming
I love gauntlets
and the highest hall
The flying enemies are so fucking bad
true
lower rooms, higher rooms, the fighest rooms
use clawline
kite
hhg taught me how to use clawline in combat
Don't forget higherer halls in between
no the S key
also second sinner, third sinner, fourth sinner, fifth sinner, sixth and seventh sinners
why does ss have so many numbers
the more time you spend floating around in the air, the higher they will hover to maintain a constant vertical distance
I actually switched from reaper to wanderer for this
Needed higher dps
last judge, first sinner, fourth chorus, twelwth architector
And this shit still took 7:27 minutes
What about eight to infinity of sinners?
second sentinel
is it gay if my gf pegs me?
asking for a friend
they are gonna be out of reach for a lot of time because they fly a lot so reaper partialy solves that
quite an unexpencted question
0th sinner
look i just need to know
if you're a man then no
Ye probably
alr thanks
it's not
Bro where’s the more gauntlets?
it's not
also am I the only one who thinks SECOND Sentinel is the SECOND because it parallels Hornet?
Looks like this is it for here
i think both are fantastic games
I agree
Neither was really that memorable for me
finally we have a REAL topic for discussion
same
wait until they try leaving high halls and get jumped by 5 more choir clappers
Hornet questions the Second Sentinel on why they would protect the empty halls of the Citadel if there's no real reason to do so
do you even like metroidvanias?
Who tf is the first sentinel tho? I genuinely don't know
silkond songtinel
I will also play blasphemous after im done with ultrakill
I think it's not that important. It's the SECOND, because it's supposed to paral Hornet and remind her of her position of the Sentinel
yes this is intentional
and if combine it with her words "I will always stay the daughter of Hallownest" it's really powerful
lace is also sentinel in a way but she kills innocent people
It's a part of the reason why she realizes she has to save this kingdom unlike the other one she was not able to save
this was more relevant to hornet bringing up her home's connection to the void
no such thing as done with ultrakill 
So hornet is basically similar to the sentinels
there are other dead sentinels too (you can see them in their boss arena in the background). "second" name choice was intentional tho
ahahahahaha
True...
Ultrakill is like crack
i should return to playing ultrakill sometime
Its fun but also can be painful
Temu hornet
who tf is this weird bug on the right
some kinda vessel gi
it's silksong
It's the knight and it is technically not a bug
also I think TC may add a knight fight eventually
like you know
in memories or stuff
Shade lord fight?
How
memories
god i hope not
No not shade lord pls
i don't want the shade lord to appear again but if they do it should be a bossfight
Radiance on steroids
Wow real funny, keep nerd emojing me guys
Laces parry is so annoying
I'm like 100% certain the "godhome" will be in memories. Not godhome specifically, just a placeholder
What lace?
Hmmm. You gotta powerup the MC alot for that one then
Cradle
Atleast it's not Phantom's parry
Havent fought phantom yet
Just wait till act 3
i mean not really, you can do largely the same response every time and the counter is always punishable
Oh boy
disagree, I'm the direct opposite. I don't want to ever fight them, because I think no matter how hard and epic the fight would be it would eventually just diminish the massiveness, epicness and coolness of Shade Lord
Do it for the cross shitch
Phantom music is peak
I'm talking about the knight in greenpath
Not to mention the fact the fight would be rigged since they would just let hornet win 
or kingdom's edge
the what
that would be cool I think, it's more reasonable and realistic
the vessel hornet killed?
that little shi
that would be boring I think
just for fun ahahahah
maybe as a secret challenge
why notttt
but why not tho, it would be so cool
Why when I think of act 2 introduction, the first thing that comes to mind is the one through sinner's road? I defeated last judge so many times
i hate the knight
stupid personalityless creature that kills mantises for no reason
idk
they evil
and homophobic
Being mean is funny, therefore the knight is funny
perishing
hornet regrettably kills karmelita and green prince to test her own strength for the void
the knight casually slays mantises because yes
I never kill mantises once I gain their respect, they chill af
what's your interpretation of this line
is that the sea of sorrow enemy
I slaughter them
Hornet is a hyper-patriotic neo-nazi believing in inferiority of flies and superiority of hallownest and slays gay bugs
Aura farming
Regrettably only for Karmelita, hornet just kills green prince because she’s homophobic
Nah it's just jerry
silksong fans when the knight immediately spams descending dark in kingdoms edge memory
Hornet litteraly hallucinates lace just so she can aura farm this one line
Hes chill af
i think it's hornet recognising that the void has always been a part of her family and home, so the fact that she was ever afraid of the void is ironic, and it's time she stopped
ahahahah lore accurate tho
and yes she was afraid of the void, she slew dozens of vessels because she was scared of what they'd do to the kingdom
I think the void is literally below all things, as in.. it's like a soil layer
Yo what is this new needolin ability the conductor gave Me? I didn’t get it
if you go deep enough, you'll find void everywhere
Its a melody
A melody for the threefold melody quest
but this is the only correct interpretation
Not really she's probably just aura farming idk
It's "bitch sybau this is not even my land and I'm saving it"

I'm pretty sure she is scared of void, that's true. She's also scared of gloomsacs, I think it's for that same reason
She is afraid of getting her lady balls chewed off
Can you blame her...the shit that happend in hallownest 
hmmm
was esactly, the sacs?
Yay guys i defeated cradle lace
POGGERS
what are the glalls sacs?
U ready for the most underwhelming final boss ever?
is this like a half-plant or what
Hollow knight is easier probably
Groal the Great
Eh, clawline circlet combo shreds
That guy was piss easy
Cany afford circlet
you can literally just spam clawline and pogo
you can even pogo the needles
she means what she said its not some crazy symbolic line
what are the lore implications of this?
Easy boss
Hornet drives a Volkswagen? I don’t know
Noo guys lace died
are you happy with yourself
Lets gooo
what are the lore implications of this particle?
thk is a less mechanically fun fight than gms but has much better storytelling
@orchid spruce (Nine Sols Spoilers) Oh... I see. I'm missing something...
I think bellhart is the most underdeveloped area of silksong and here's why. I think Bellhart background is too blurred and it makes it look like it's just a small village-type place, whereas in reality, if you pay attention to the background, you can see that there's a bunch of bellhouses
The world is a lie, we are all going to perish in the abyss
HEAVY lotus knight spoilers...
Good luck finding it!!!
and music but that's very subjective
It's literally a megapolis
Guys is there anything i need to do before killing grandmother silk
dust representing the weight of time that has passed since the departure of the Weavers
tru
don't worry too much
not an unpopular opinion probably
type of shit the lace guy comes up with
there's post game content and you need to complete quests
gms might be like really easy but i still find her very fun
Gms>LL imo...
gms is a good boss
has anybody done a 212% run yet where you 112% hollowknight then 100% silksong
it would be better if she was more like agms but oh well
First Sinner would lowkey be better as the final boss from the gameplay standpoint of view
I first tried her, I FIRST TRIED BELL BEAST
(Nine Sols) I've been poking around here ||(research center)|| but I get the feeling I'm not supposed to be here yet because there are a ton of ||flesh-walls||
I thunk wanderer is really good for cooking bosses, reaper is best for exploring, and architects is good for gauntlets
what's the chance we fight a third weaver in dlc
First shitter
i also beat her first try
thunk
I love this word
hunter is best for cooking bosses since you just get damage
I think, I thunk, I have thunken
do you want help?
Hunter is best for everything
also hunter is just really fun
Even platforming?
Ive never touched hunter after i got reaper
the most underrated enemy
If I'm missing something here that I can access lmk
if you struggle with a 45 degree angle after 3 hours you just have a skill issue /srs
the curse of reaper hits another
.. yes
The only other crest that rivals Hunter for me is witch
witch is cool
I think there are better options for platforming
||you're missing something. try to solve the maze puzzle.||
I disagree honestly
Idk why you would use hunter over wanderer
i have never been able to understand witch or beast i cant wrap my head around a new bind
I did, I got into the ||Lear|| door 
Evolved Hunter with max focus has a higher dps with more range
More reason for reapers crest supremacy
gms also has the higher being thighgap
hunter is my favorite for platforming, the pogo is so fun
js realised that
well, there are more
exactly, it might not be the easiest for platforming but its the most fun
Okay I'll poke around
Reaper is good for like, 1 skip in blasted steps for a mask shard, and nothing else
true

I not going to go into crests and how good they are, we could be here for hours
also wtf is that bs
Reaper is good for shortening moorwing runback
Was the high halls gauntlets really intended to do without double jump? The 2 huge enemies at the end was a nightmare ti avoid considering I can’t jump over them
Stinger
brochacho has a tuning fork for legs?
Real
dude wdym 45604% hollow knight😭 have you 112% 400 times or smt
Yes that is intended for 0 double jump
Wall jump then pogo or crawline
Reaper was GOATED for lost lace
I bet glass soul in my dreams ahahaha
reaper is good for everything
so is every other crest
Guys im too poor for cradle map 😭
act 2 was made so that faydown makes it far easier but still posssible without it
Do you know also great for that? Every other crest-
BLASPHEMY
Ok I see
i assure you that reaper is NOT the best crest for ll
Architect is
Because of course it is
Why didn't they make Hornet fight GMS with LL at the end?
There's no bad crest, but Reaper is by far my least favorite
I did pogoing but they jump a lot man
That is the sound of every hunter main in existence blowing up my phone to tell me I am wrong
because gms is literally unable to do anything
Guys what is beast for it doesnt have better tool slots than other crests and idk why the heal would be better
Gms blade attack is so cool i wish she had more cool attacks like that
tho tbf I don't like using any crest that isn't Hunter so, lol,
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