sk-discussion

[earnest drift]

I wish we could read wanted posters calling for lace’s capture and execution

[slender juniper]

Clip ts or sum

[vale whale]

while we're in the crest unlocked screen hornet wraps the corpse in silk and eats it like a truly disgusting sick beast

the disgusting sick beast she is

[rocky jolt]

like beast crest

[slender juniper]

So that's what hapend to her mates

[vale whale]

she has a fork and a knife

[rocky jolt]

i dojnt think she needs those

[vale whale]

do you eat a steak with a longsword

[left crypt]

what the hell just disgraced my eyes

[slender juniper]

Weavers are nasty they go raw

[rocky jolt]

i could try

[vale whale]

or whatever her needle is

[earnest drift]

are all weavers as crazy and feral as widow, first sinner and hornet

[slender juniper]

A swordspear

[vale whale]

the knight has a broadsword but idk what hornet has

[vale whale]

peak spot

[rocky jolt]

its not like hornet is gonna eat on a dinner table

[slender juniper]

A sword on a Spear

[earnest drift]

strange to think that such an untamed group made a system built on order and oppression

[vale whale]

this is why we need a thk game btw

[earnest drift]

ugh

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/oUz8djdQw6h.gif

[vale whale]

broadsword
longsword/spear thing whatever man
where is rhe greatsword

[wind mulch]

i think the first two have just gone nuts from the isolation

[vale whale]

look at those HIPS👅👅👅🥺

[earnest drift]

is this the mimic

[rocky jolt]

crazy hip work mimic

[fiery burrow]

First Sinner is reasonable

[left crypt]

widow is haunted

[wind mulch]

i don't remember anything first sinner actually said

[earnest drift]

nah she’s not

the needolin thing isn’t canon because it’s impossible in the game

wait for godhome first

[slender juniper]

The needle is surprisingly good in combat

Irl

[earnest drift]

the needle is the only good weapon in the verse

[slender juniper]

You can attach it to a rope and throw it

[wind mulch]

the humble nail

[fiery burrow]

what needolin thing

[earnest drift]

pins are okay at thrusting but they lack hand protection

[rocky jolt]

hornet fights with a sewing needle and the most ankward cloak for battles ever

[earnest drift]

nails are absolutely awful weapons

[slender juniper]

Irl that shit is completely useless

[fiery burrow]

Needle is cool but Hornet needs to use silk in her moveset more

[earnest drift]

heavy and wide base, no hand protection

[slender juniper]

The nail is just a giant heavy stick you smash it

[earnest drift]

they’d be more useful if you held them upside down

[wind mulch]

oh we mean irl

[earnest drift]

so you could bash your opponent with the heavy end

[wind mulch]

i dont think any of them are good really

[earnest drift]

needle is good

[fiery burrow]

Club

[earnest drift]

soul warrior’s pin blade is also very good

[wind mulch]

the needle has a weirdly long grip and no guard

its very unwieldy

[earnest drift]

yeah it’s like a sword spear hybrid

watch sellsword arts

[slender juniper]

Look at that handle to sword ratio

You're NOT carrying that

[wind mulch]

yea the nail would suck

[fiery burrow]

This could probably kill you

[earnest drift]

just slip your blade down the nail and cut your opponent’s hands

[earnest drift]

good weapon but I hate cloth

[left crypt]

cloth is awesome what

[fiery burrow]

yeah she's kinda lame in comparison to Mio's characters

[wind mulch]

this is probably the most viable one lowk

[wind mulch]

does the glaze ever end

[mental snow]

So I learned that spamming wall jump without wings anywhere there's a wall to climb just lets you tweak out

[earnest drift]

hollow knight just screws up having an npc helping you to fight ESPECIALLY with Quirrel

[slender juniper]

The pin would kinda be useful irl but it must be really sharp at the end

[left crypt]

quirrel is awesome what

[mental snow]

I thought it was specific to that one room in Choral Chambers, with the spinning path

[slender juniper]

Kinda like a spear but even less wide

[fiery burrow]

Cloth is better than a lot of Mio characters but the agenda can't stop

[wind mulch]

pin and needle are just a more unwieldy spear

irl weapons mog

[slender juniper]

Nah it's actually good

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-1-havel-havel-the-rock-smack-slam-gif-11758022452492179540

[slender juniper]

Just ad a guard handle and the needle is great

And you can throw it like a javelin and pull it back with a rope

[mental snow]

The needle is already a great weapon in the real world

[wind mulch]

the handle length compared to the blade would make that mf absurdly unbalanced

[vale whale]

the nail is the most inconvenient broadsword oat

imagine wielding a greatnail

[slender juniper]

Too bad people already tried it it's great

[earnest drift]

they made an invulnerable boss JUST so that you would DEPEND on Quirrel to help

“ohh this boss is invulnerable to your nail! but not HIS nail!” wtf is this Gary stu this is the most forced way of making Quirrel useful

[vale whale]

the nails are all FUCKED

[fiery burrow]

monhun hammer hitstop

[earnest drift]

and because of Quirrel we now have to deal with the garbage that uumuu is

[vale whale]

yeah maybe it was because that boss was in the area where he was mentored and was created by his mentor whose ways he knew very well

[left crypt]

he uses a special nail art type thing

[hardy tangle]

its bait

[left crypt]

uumuu godhome is awesome

[vale whale]

quirrel does 2 masks of damage hornet does not

[earnest drift]

copout explanation

[vale whale]

quirrel mogs hornet ap wise

and speed he literally teleports

[wind mulch]

quirrel mogs hornet in every way

[vale whale]

she has. abetter arsenal tbf

[left crypt]

with the monomon mask

[slender juniper]

The needle is a crazy fucking javelin why doesn't hornet throw it

[wind mulch]

quirrel mogs by not needing it

[vale whale]

even pre silksong she has more options but post silksonf she has tools and mkre skills

[slender juniper]

Oh wait that's silkspear

[left crypt]

quirrel is old

[vale whale]

quirrel vs hornet would be very interesting

[wind mulch]

hornet would fuck him up badly im ngl

[slender juniper]

It already hapend hornet mogged

[earnest drift]

this already happened

[vale whale]

she

[left crypt]

read the quirrel comic

[paper fiber]

dude

[vale whale]

she got a dive on him😭😭😭

[fiery burrow]

Quirrel never says anything aura farmy he's always well mannered and polite fr fr

[paper fiber]

quirrel is life

[earnest drift]

Quirrel got brain damage from hornet hitting his head which is why he lost all his memory

[left crypt]

hornet saw the monomon mask and dipped

[vale whale]

that was NOT a fight she hit the mask saw the mask and dipped

[paper fiber]

@earnest drift

[wind mulch]

quirrel beat up a jellyfish hornet threw hands with gms

[vale whale]

son😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[distant prawn]

gng

[paper fiber]

son😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[vale whale]

quirrel did 2 masks to that jellyfish

[slender juniper]

Thread storm almost fucked him up

[left crypt]

hornet beat the crap out of a god

[earnest drift]

said jellyfish is designed just for Quirrel to be useful

[paper fiber]

son😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wind mulch]

r u gonna start power-scaling or smtjn

[paper fiber]

son😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[astral olive]

If he hadnt had the mask he'd have died with her first and only move

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[paper fiber]

so hollow knight

is the strongest in the verse.

[left crypt]

son😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[earnest drift]

adding an invulnerable boss solely for a mediocre npc to be useful in it is so whack

[paper fiber]

but can hollow knight beat silk knight?

[vale whale]

thk vs shade lord

[paper fiber]

that’s why it’s sk

[wind mulch]

tf is thk gonna do against shade lord

[vale whale]

quirrel speedmogs hornet too no mask all memories quirrel could take hk hornet in a fight

[astral olive]

Can Hollow Knight beat Lace, do you mean?

[vale whale]

no, silk knight

[astral olive]

I'm confused

[wind mulch]

quirrel teleporting as an artistic liberty to show hes fast doesnt make that mf stronger than hornet

[left crypt]

ts has to be ragebait

[distant prawn]

dawg Hornet got sting shards and thread storm

[rough anvil]

Its not
What made u think that 😭

[vale whale]

still faster then hornwt

[paper fiber]

genius = me

[knotty osprey]

groal and beastfly top tier hahahaha

[vale whale]

does hornet teleport even post silksong

[left crypt]

choral chambers is a lil better than alright and hunters march and cogwork core are mid

[paper fiber]

everyone has differing opinions so let’s respect them all

[earnest drift]

teleporting is lame and cringe

[fiery burrow]

agreed for the abyss hate

[wind mulch]

this is like when mfs will see someome dodge a laser or smthn in anime and say theyre faster than light

[vale whale]

and pretty quick

[paper fiber]

hornet lost the ability after she went to pahtlaliiioom

[left crypt]

hornet never teleports

[vale whale]

not the same as literally moving so quickly you TELEPORT

[left crypt]

its visual

[rough anvil]

Hornet got alzheimer when she went to pharloom bruh she lost all her attacks forgot how to run how to jump high etc

[left crypt]

mantis lords do it too

[distant prawn]

kinda

[earnest drift]

why can pure vessel teleport
it's an excuse to animate them less

[fiery burrow]

Hornet should teleport like this https://store.steampowered.com/app/3910680/INARI/

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[vale whale]

what the fuck is this

shut up you chud this is why silkso g discussion sucks

[wind mulch]

its just artistic liberty bruh quirrel obviously isnt some mega speedster secretly stronger than demi higher beings lets put our thinking caps on

[vale whale]

fucking sjittu fucking game

[vale whale]

fuck fuck fuck fuckf cukf

[rocky jolt]

yes bro they are so lazy to actually draw stuff

[earnest drift]

anyway phantom is the most powerful character in the verse because they create an infinite pocket universe

[left crypt]

teleporting is a visual effect

cogwork dancers teleport

[earnest drift]

followed by zote because the eternal ordeal is infinite

[distant prawn]

Im a Queer user, obviously from the rain

[paper fiber]

☂️

[left crypt]

they dont mog hornet

[vale whale]

he fast

[distant prawn]

how

[paper fiber]

🤫 🧏

[earnest drift]

the mist

[left crypt]

bell eater also teleports

[vale whale]

in the eame video he takes both monsters and pours rhem straight into his mouth at once btw

[tight viper]

This phone doesn't need to be charged

[earnest drift]

phantom can beat any character by trapping them in the mist

[left crypt]

or has multiple heads but highly unlikely

[tight viper]

when

[slender juniper]

Trans visibility day today

[left crypt]

it can be at any bellway anytime

[slender juniper]

Anybody who misgenders phantom is getting pited

[left crypt]

bell beast is the same

[earnest drift]

i think the most unnatural teleporting is radiance like why does she teleport how does she teleport she doesn't even move she looks so stupid

[distant prawn]

shi was yesterday for me

[left crypt]

dream lace

[tight viper]

It's just fast

[wind mulch]

tbf she is some immaterial essence being hers makes the most sense if anything

[left crypt]

as in travels from bone bottom to ducts in half a second fast?

with hearing across the whole kingdom?

[distant prawn]

tbf she's a god

[vale whale]

can you do that

[tight viper]

Also I don't think the Bell Eater can move from the first Bellway you try to use in Act 3

[slender juniper]

Anybody got free 35 hours I need a summary

[left crypt]

if it cant im wrong then

but bell beast can

does the exact same thing

[tight viper]

Hornet has to call the Bell Beast for it to show up

Doesn't show up immediately, and a realistic waiting period would be bad for gameplay

[left crypt]

again, hearing across the whole kingdom and can travel from bone bottem to ducts in a second and a half

[fiery burrow]

nicole watterson crying hyperrealistic blood 😦

[earnest drift]

the bellways are wormholes

[wind mulch]

#scary

[left crypt]

im trying to say that teleporting is an artistic thing that means nothing

[distant prawn]

Yes Yes

[trim estuary]

ORANGE JAR!!

[distant prawn]

Silk Brew

[wind mulch]

is that the fucking halo infinite brute edited to look like that one wojack

[left crypt]

so quirrel is not lightspeed

[mental snow]

Alcoholism

[vale whale]

laxzon when bell beast doesnt take 3 ingame minutes to trek across the kingdom

[tight viper]

Sound travels through the bellveins really well or something

[slender juniper]

Shih I told an immigrant McDonald's puts ice in their drinks now they're freaking out

[left crypt]

son

[slender juniper]

I prefer my ice crushed

[left crypt]

i prefer it cubed

[distant prawn]

sir

are my ears getting destroyed the moment i enter

[left crypt]

what is fwssh

[slender juniper]

Who is ts

[tight viper]

Hornet has strong ears

[distant prawn]

Bell Beast >>> Old Stag

[earnest drift]

how much dmg does shakra do to enemies

[vale whale]

you

[left crypt]

jonis blessing is good for white defender and gpz

[distant prawn]

I wonder if the Knight met the Stag

[tight viper]

No floor, no wall, no silk skill, no hit

[slender juniper]

I know where you live

[hardy tangle]

fym 💔

[distant prawn]

the one born

[slender juniper]

It's definetly California

[hardy tangle]

probably not cus hes like void now

[distant prawn]

uh they prolly could just yk

be a friendly void guy

[slender juniper]

Do you shop at erwhon

[hardy tangle]

traveled to pharloom

[left crypt]

void CANNOT be friendly gang

[rotund gate]

First thing i saw btw

[distant prawn]

they got control bro

[left crypt]

do they though?

[slender juniper]

Yes

[rotund gate]

vio on immmxmsmslsk

[left crypt]

the shade is naturally aggressive

[slender juniper]

False

[mental snow]

Almost died to Trobbio, killed him almost immediately after healing

[left crypt]

void is only nice to itself

[trim estuary]

this is my least favorite image maybe ever

actually Bammo’s gif is worse

[distant prawn]

witch user?

[earnest drift]

then why do kingsmoulds attack the knight

[hardy tangle]

how tc felt after making the coolest character of all time with maximum aura and the best boss ost just to give them 0 plot relevance

[left crypt]

they kinda have their own will

[trim estuary]

Crawfather?

[distant prawn]

void follows a command or its will

[hardy tangle]

big p

[vale whale]

zango?

[left crypt]

what

[trim estuary]

“Big P”

[hardy tangle]

big ph

[left crypt]

plast judge

[vale whale]

pango

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/baki-redditor

[distant prawn]

beastfly mentioned

[left crypt]

phlast judge

[fiery burrow]

ok why did last judge have no lore

edge magazine mentions a "secret" ???

[vale whale]

pharmond and phapha

[hardy tangle]

diarrhea

[steep jolt]

son

[left crypt]

pharlid

[wind mulch]

well thats because silksong is terrible and has no lore and its over, silly

[distant prawn]

Garloom and Zaloom

[loud kite]

🍤

[fiery burrow]

My most anticipated boss 😔

[hardy tangle]

she has a lot of kids

[wind mulch]

did u forget

[steep jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1488257979336888462/descendant.gif

[earnest drift]

last judge was fine wdym

[steep jolt]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-luigi-companion-yRV4ytuuRsMPvgwJC2

[hardy tangle]

companion 😭

[vale whale]

pharmonf and phapha are goated

[earnest drift]

judges are made to let only the worthy pilgrims through what more is there

[trim estuary]

they SCRAPPED ALL the LORE so that they could ADD the VOID!!

[vale whale]

those are her little siblings

[fiery burrow]

thank god mnan I got chills when I saw the reused stag sign asset

[steep jolt]

hornet canonically went to pharloom to escape child support btw

[slender juniper]

SON😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[fiery burrow]

almoooost as good as the GMS intro cutscene

[left crypt]

hornet has NO kids

[distant prawn]

i got spoiled but shocked when i saw

[wind mulch]

did i almost feel fear

[hardy tangle]

i hope hornet has a kid so its canon shes neglectful and terrible

[steep jolt]

*nonoctillion kids

[slender juniper]

How do you know

What if she impregnated a male someday

[steep jolt]

she has canonically mated

[slender juniper]

And has a secret child

[left crypt]

has had mates

doesnt mean shes mated

[wind mulch]

i hope hornet gets some friends so she learns how to socialise without constant aura farming

[hardy tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/black-boy-elevator-confused-perplexed-concerned-gif-9645339648940675276

[distant prawn]

pavo

[earnest drift]

shakra is her first confirmed friend

[hardy tangle]

tbh why else these bugs together for

[earnest drift]

i'm pretty sure she never had any friends before shakra

[steep jolt]

no in her hunters journal it litterally said she had mates but outlived all of them

[trim estuary]

Hornet follows Judeochristian values she wouldn’t do that

[earnest drift]

that doesn't mean she had children

[left crypt]

hornet was friends with vespa kinda

[earnest drift]

that's her mom

[left crypt]

mentor

[steep jolt]

she mightve been "friends" with hive knight

[distant prawn]

no she follows zeus

[hardy tangle]

her trainer

[fiery burrow]

would hornet fw these types of videos

[slender juniper]

Silskong 2:you play as the first male weaver a child of hornet ,hornet doesn't know about you

Yes

[hardy tangle]

white lady was probably more mom toward hornet than vespa

[left crypt]

vespa trained hornet

[steep jolt]

isnt this deadass her sibling shade lord

[hardy tangle]

while herrah slept like a bum

[left crypt]

like sly is not matos father

[fiery burrow]

Shade Lord never even speaks bruh

[wind mulch]

hornet for sure would repost this shit

[fiery burrow]

Its all natural aura

[steep jolt]

herrah said some inspirational ahh quote or something then left for the milk

[left crypt]

quote saves hornet though

[wind mulch]

someone needs to make that strong vs weak aura thing with the knight and hornet

[left crypt]

in te

[faint wave]

why does going into memory of the old leaders and killing in memory kill them

[slender juniper]

"those are their wishes,not yours' bye girl I'm going to sleep

[left crypt]

knight has more aura then hornet

[steep jolt]

oh boy i sure do wonder who will win

[distant prawn]

hornet is more skilled

[hardy tangle]

cus hornet sleep walks and stabs them to death

[steep jolt]

ive been itching to fight grimm as hornet

[earnest drift]

more aura less being a character that i care about

[hardy tangle]

aura > meaningful lore

[left crypt]

gets born, instantly rejected by bro, escapes anyway, leaves, comes back, kills god, becomes new god, says nothing, helps sis, refuses to elaborate, leaves

[distant prawn]

lore > meaningful aura

[earnest drift]

the knight needed help to kill a god they suck

[steep jolt]

plot twist: the knight is just a little baby who doesnt know how to talk yet and accidentally killed the radiance

[rocky jolt]

meaning > auraful lore

[earnest drift]

isn't this canon

[fiery burrow]

aura focused stories can be good but this ain't tuff

[steep jolt]

i mean just some random ass middle class couples 1 year old baby walking around

[earnest drift]

soul master has more aura and more lore than radiance

[left crypt]

soul master is auraless

radiance is too

[wind mulch]

radiance has hella aura

[hardy tangle]

soul master has greasy burger aura

[distant prawn]

Doomed Yaoi Green Bug

[earnest drift]

how do i get shade soul again guys i forgot

[rocky jolt]

worst take oat

[left crypt]

radiance lowk crashed out because her followers left

threw a fit and took back her kingdom

[earnest drift]

radiance lost all her aura with her piss yellow orbs

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-the-radiance

[faint wave]

she also killed those who worship

[hardy tangle]

💔

[rocky jolt]

thats a good take

[earnest drift]

this is less like a god losing her worshippers and more like a toddler not getting attention from her parents

[hardy tangle]

soul master looks like a fucking bean

[wind mulch]

incalculable aura

[distant prawn]

PK is good king

[steep jolt]

i larp as zote

[left crypt]

dung defender has MAD aura

[steep jolt]

FR

[earnest drift]

he throws poo

[hardy tangle]

dung defender has pubic aura

[steep jolt]

my guy is just a chill guy throwing shit

[distant prawn]

PK is basically chill god

[slender juniper]

Enslaved maggots btw

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-true-silksong-hollow-knight-truebbio-gif-4872516641731648376

[left crypt]

mistakes you for a mindless husk, beats your ass, apologizes, makes a statue of you

[steep jolt]

pale king is like a science teacher

[earnest drift]

he sealed the source of the infection in the middle of his kingdom instead of 50 miles away

[fiery burrow]

ts was made up by loreheads because idk fantasy kings can't be good anymore

[steep jolt]

you forgot that he beats your ass using shit

[hardy tangle]

monomon has the most dreamer aura

[left crypt]

yea

[distant prawn]

cares about the nations

[slender juniper]

No maggots were litteraly enslaved stag says it

[left crypt]

monomon is ugly

[steep jolt]

maggots were annoying anyway

[fiery burrow]

🤨

[distant prawn]

imagine infection on pharloom

[left crypt]

lurien hot as hell

[fiery burrow]

???

[earnest drift]

hey if the mask stops the dreamers from aging then why did monomon still survive when quirrel took her mask

[heady iron]

that's just the stag's opinion

[distant prawn]

hes mysterious

[fiery burrow]

actual slander please don't joke abt the godking like this

[left crypt]

lurien better be in steel city dlc

[wind mulch]

what

[hardy tangle]

idfk why you askig me

[slender juniper]

The maggots hunter entry just says they're slaves and stag says in city storerooms they forced bugs to move items there

[hardy tangle]

monomon has hips aint that insane

[distant prawn]

thats jut racis

[left crypt]

i have hips too

[earnest drift]

i thought lurien doesn't die because the mask stops him from aging
but then monomon lives

[fiery burrow]

50 Hollow Knight fans vs Reading Comprehension

[wind mulch]

has anyone considered that the maggots probably deserved it

[left crypt]

no

[hardy tangle]

ok human

[rocky jolt]

i just realized bugs arent human

[wind mulch]

no thats never stated

[distant prawn]

]ok computer

[earnest drift]

k nvm

[left crypt]

maggots were like black people in the 1700s

completely innocent but forced to do labo

false knight lowk a hero

[wind mulch]

we have fully lost our minds

[left crypt]

trying to protect his brothers

[distant prawn]

he killed an actual hero

[fiery burrow]

that doesn't say they were owned as property and compelled into doing labor it says they needed to do menial work because of their low status (which is racist but not slavery and not anything to do with the pale king)

[left crypt]

didnt know

[distant prawn]

but i agree

[earnest drift]

is monomon the same one who says "the seals must be undone"

[rocky jolt]

lurien can work as a table cloth just like ballador

[left crypt]

false knight tryna protect his friends

[hardy tangle]

its a meme

[earnest drift]

glaze

[left crypt]

i think lurien says the seals cannot be undone, monomon says they must be

[earnest drift]

but i'm asking is she the same one

[heady iron]

false knight is kinda like malcolm x if you don't think about it

[slender juniper]

Lurien having random ass knights guarding him

[wind mulch]

yea

[earnest drift]

so she changed her mind

[hardy tangle]

i dont know bro

[distant prawn]

opinion way

[earnest drift]

that's why monomon was the best dreamer before silksong came out

[wind mulch]

yes

[fiery burrow]

PK is the most glazeable character that's why his haters needed to make up some random racism lore

[left crypt]

monomon knows the vessel is failing

[distant prawn]

not statement

[earnest drift]

she had development

[hardy tangle]

lurien was just rich

[distant prawn]

infanticide was diff

[earnest drift]

but she also made quirrel who he was so maybe monomon isn't that good

[fiery burrow]

trolley problem 🥱

[left crypt]

lurien says the seals cant be undone, doesnt mean he doesnt want it, hes a realist

[fiery burrow]

also not infanticide if its abortion tsk tsk

[slender juniper]

1)infanticide
2)racism
3)anti imigrant

[wind mulch]

we passing philosophy 101 with this one

[fiery burrow]

bruh what

[left crypt]

hes basically saying watcher knights cannot be defeated

[hardy tangle]

monomon made the best character in hk so thats pretty bad

[heady iron]

I can excuse the infanticide but I draw the line at racism

[left crypt]

monomon says it has to happen and the knight has to do the impossible

thats my headcanon

[distant prawn]

hes lit allowing others to not follow him

[hardy tangle]

everyone racist in hk

[earnest drift]

he decided to put the radiance in the middle of the kingdom instead of far outside the borders

[fiery burrow]

His wife was probably racist

Where did Hornet get those ideas from

[slender juniper]

He wanted the weavers gone that's just anti imigrant

[fiery burrow]

I don't think it was Vespa

[earnest drift]

pale king isn't bad just super ultra stupid

[hardy tangle]

anything bad we can blame on vespa

[left crypt]

since when?

[wind mulch]

the weavers were on some bs as usual

[left crypt]

they made the seals of binding PK prob loved em

[earnest drift]

i thought the weavers were in hallownest before pale king arrived

[left crypt]

no

[slender juniper]

What the fuck were they on even with the tram like it'd not even fucking your land

[hardy tangle]

pale king loved the mantises and wanted to be friends but the mantises were turbo racist and hated everyon

[earnest drift]

at least the weavers had a working plan to keep their god sealed (even though it cost the blood of thousands)

[left crypt]

Wasn’t working

[hardy tangle]

todays subject slavery

[slender juniper]

What the fuck was even their plan in that

[wind mulch]

yea that plan went fantastically didnt it

[left crypt]

Just as flawed as THK

The plan was to create a choir to sing gms to sleep

[hardy tangle]

they made eva and then abandoned her without putting her out her misery

[slender juniper]

The weavers just had a massive tauntrum on their mother and left her to sleep they fr traitors ngl

[left crypt]

Said choir had silk in their bodies, whiteward ruined it all

[heady iron]

when hornet was young herrah told her: "a mother...before the mask...before I lay forever in duty...also I hate those-"

[slender juniper]

Low-key bitches

[wind mulch]

the best the weavers greatest minds could come up with was a lullaby yea its over for pharloom

[earnest drift]

the pale king did the same thing but with thousands of vessels

[broken seal]

she a liar backstabbing gatekeepinv but not in the girlboss way

[earnest drift]

nah it would've worked if they didn't get greedy with whiteward

[fiery burrow]

the citadel worked until the conductors messed it up tbf

[hardy tangle]

notice how i never compared the weavers with the pale king just now and youre the only one doing it

[earnest drift]

that's the only reason the haunting happened

[left crypt]

THK may have worked if PK didn’t instill an idea

[earnest drift]

because i'm smarter than you?

[fiery burrow]

But that's kinda the theme of HK something is always gonna go wrong in an eternity

[left crypt]

Stopping problems is bad, eradicate them instead

[broken seal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/shake-shakespear-shakespeare-you-symKkS2mhZZ9TuNsob

[broken seal]

"i have a problem my baby just threw a fit and accidentally broke a vase so it's time to fucking eradicate him" -pale king, probably

[hardy tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-blushing-im-just-red-seven-human-souls-seven-angry-birds-red-angry-birds-red-bird-gif-12971185847228165130

[left crypt]

The 7 not blushing angry birds

[wind mulch]

the pale king had like an actual physical aura is anyone considering that

[left crypt]

White lady has AUUUUURAAAAA

[hardy tangle]

he was too bright to look at

[left crypt]

is bro god???

[hardy tangle]

pale king was a fucking hermit and left the white palace 3 times in his whole life

[heady iron]

he just like me fr

[distant prawn]

Pale Kings never shower

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321285904194605097/1437267933461090334/NO_NOOOOOO_YOURE_SUPPOSED_TO_OBEY_ME.gif

[distant prawn]

Beast Crest Flea Brew for High Halls Gauntlet

[onyx python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404101636464578643/1419110313181184020/attachment.gif

[polar apex]

if i had a whole palice i wouldn't leave either

[distant prawn]

six? you need the seventh one

[hardy tangle]

you probably would ✌️

[trim estuary]

nope. in the original scene the seventh is uninvolved

[left crypt]

Seventh was against flowey too

[distant prawn]

i played the game tho

[left crypt]

Just in a different way

[hardy tangle]

undertale is rotting in my library

[distant prawn]

UT/DR vaulted away until ch5 releases

[heady iron]

just play deltarune, it's a better game

[distant prawn]

maybe i should redo my pacifist run

[heady iron]

playing undertale when deltarune is out is like playing hollow knight when silksong is out, you don't need to

[left crypt]

HK rando

[distant prawn]

Theres a differenc

[left crypt]

Rando is peak

HK slander will not be tolerated

[trim estuary]

it’s crazy how this statement is false in both ways and one is really awesome and cool and the other sucks

[distant prawn]

one is linear the other is not

[distant prawn]

False

Knight

[left crypt]

Failed

Master

[hardy tangle]

playing silksong made me want to replay hk

[trim estuary]

team cherry would NEVER put lame deus ex machina nostalgiabait in their endings!!

[hardy tangle]

which i did and it was good

[left crypt]

Honestly it isn’t

[hardy tangle]

whys 112% infinitely easier than getting 100% on sk (flea games)

[left crypt]

Hornet killed lost lace

[earnest drift]

void heart was more of a deus ex machina than the shaman snare thing

because the snare thing plunged the kingdom into chaos

[hardy tangle]

ive deadass only played flea juggle im not touching that shit my save can stay 90 something %

[wind mulch]

the void heart had thematic significance the snare was just convenient

[crisp heron]

what if team cherry was actually called team orange

[left crypt]

Team apple!

[trim estuary]

one was “connect with a part of you” and the other was “oh yeah your ancestors made this prototype thing go grab it for me lmao”

[earnest drift]

i do not know how the caretaker knew about snare setter

[crisp heron]

Squad Pomegranate

[earnest drift]

i do not know how hornet knew about void heart

[left crypt]

Snail shamans are smart gang

Hornet is smart gang

[hardy tangle]

how it feels seeing someone who can articulate words better than you have the same point as you

[wind mulch]

she didnt she vaguely alludes to the abyss being able to help us unsurely lol

[left crypt]

That’s shade cloak

[meager jolt]

Flea Juggle is SO hard, it took blood sweat and tears for me to beat it

[left crypt]

Flea juggle harder than lost lace

[meager jolt]

Actually tho

[left crypt]

Harder than pure vessel

[trim estuary]

these flea juggle PLEBIANS

[brave geyser]

Because 112% in hk is not as mindnumbingly boring as 100% sk

[undone gate]

Flea Dodge is harder than Flea Juggle once your used to the Juggle timings

[earnest drift]

it's a blind leap and idk what hornet is thinking about the knight going into the abyss somehow helping them if she doesn't know about void heart

[brave geyser]

Or if you use beast crest and attack sideways rather than upwards

[earnest drift]

this is about void heart right

[wind mulch]

shes is desperate and postulating, the kingdom is already dead how is it unreasonable to take such a chance

[undone gate]

What makes 100% Silksong so boring

[meager jolt]

"Unite such vast darkness"

[opaque sigil]

it's ragebait

[undone gate]

I used Shaman up slash the range is insane

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[meager jolt]

Idk just the vibes I did it twice already and I'm procrastinating doing it a third time 'cause it sounds soooooo boring

[meager jolt]

Because you're human

[trim estuary]

LINEARITY

[earnest drift]

a "chance" should at least have some basis
if hornet doesn't know about void heart and is putting her faith into "uniting the void" then i have no idea what she's expecting

[undone gate]

I have done 100% Silksong once I don't think I have done 112% HK

[wind mulch]

ragebaiter ragebaiter go away spike my cortisol another day

[distant prawn]

sheb prolly research

[left crypt]

Colo 3 is harder than anything in silksong

[earnest drift]

112% hk includes godhome which automatically makes it more boring

[undone gate]

Only Act 1 is more linier

[left crypt]

Same with P4

[earnest drift]

hk fans when you ask questions about the game (it's ragebait)

[meager jolt]

You know Path of Pain and P5 don't count? That's something

[heady iron]

bro calls all genuine discussions and opinions ragebait just because they're different

[brave geyser]

Mostly the tool grind
I know hk has charms too (no shit) but those were not nearly as boring as getting the 57 tools in silksong
I kid you not my first 100% was my steel heart run because iam NOT doing 100% again.

[undone gate]

Yea I do know that and they both are optional hard DLC challanges

[wind mulch]

last time we had this convo it ended with u crying about how u make this server worse or smthn and ur echoing the exact same points again if this isnt ragebait u might just be an idiot bro

[brave geyser]

Also the fact that you need like 20 memory lockets for sylphsong

[distant prawn]

57..?

[earnest drift]

what about caretaker how does he know about snare setter

[left crypt]

57

[earnest drift]

rude

i haven't spoken to you before today i don't think

[distant prawn]

ZOTEBOAT LEAKED

[brave geyser]

51 tools 6 silk skills the game counts them as 57

[undone gate]

I find both tool and charm grinds boring

[sweet ore]

omg the new dlc is out

[left crypt]

topeturo nowme, owmentedubim. Deez manimam bopis. beezbopis bera bera! Okalaba! Okalaba buptis, amen ba, deprena. bapnanada. Oktis? Ba! Puroctis eh? Munta munta munta chocta banazura. Mutara babisnachala! Otobichuronamin; o munta munta dupri…amen ba depra na bapanada octis. Munta aramabis na chala.

[wind mulch]

#sk-discussion message

[distant prawn]

=n 20 years

[sweet ore]

april fools

[mental snow]

Just beat 2nd Beastfly.

Things are looking up for Steel Soul, but I really gotta make sure to not get cocky.

[wind mulch]

learn to engage sincerely for the love of god

[earnest drift]

one month ago let it go 💔

[meager jolt]

Thank you for putting it into words, God I do NOT want to do Speed Completion

[wind mulch]

thats two days ago dawg

[brave geyser]

i do too but most charms in hk you lowk just have to pull up in a room and leave
For sk you have to go to bilewater swim through a weird ass pool find a broken gun and idk climb a mountain again to fix the gun

[undone gate]

You still have Act 3

[mental snow]

It's MUCH easier than it appears

[wind mulch]

are we deadass

[earnest drift]

it's april where i am

[heady iron]

March is last month big bro

[opaque sigil]

frequently comorbid

[brave geyser]

if you are just do it with steel heart
It's genuinely not hard, it's boring on its own.

[mental snow]

Dawg I'm just tryna max out Act 2 right now, I do NOT wanna think about how dogwater I am against the Act 3 bosses

[meager jolt]

I know it's easy. But it is very very boring.

[mental snow]

Nah that's fair

[heady iron]

damn we being ableist to differing opinions now too

[earnest drift]

what

oh

[meager jolt]

I fucked up by 1 hour

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/aniyabea-yt-man-stare-ab-yt-man-stare-aniyab-gif-10494397403125281154

[undone gate]

The dream areas luckily won't destroy your run if you die against them

[mental snow]

Alright I gotta double back to Underworks and get Clawline because I kinda skipped it

[heady iron]

can we get an at mods here

[fiery burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1074774873429262386/HeySoIMadeAFakeModPingEmoteBruh.gif

[mental snow]

But Seth might just kick my ass, but I am NOT doing Seth Skip.

[left crypt]

Verdania

[trim estuary]

honestly if you don’t have the same opinions as me it’s probably bc you’re just not strong enough

[undone gate]

I never touch Steel Soul since it's just too boring and I don't want to lose my save file just because of some dumb mistake

[earnest drift]

should i be very offended and hurt by what they said

[mental snow]

.... you right, you right.

[brave geyser]

You could dodge nearly all of his attacks by playing it slow

[left crypt]

But Karmelita is worse anyway

[meager jolt]

Yayyyyyyy 👏 👏

[undone gate]

Or just Jumping

[mental snow]

I'm talking about Steel Soul, so Karmelita is fine

[heady iron]

maybe not but since it's from someone I don't like then yes

[left crypt]

Seth is like top 5 easiest bosses in act 3

[brave geyser]

Yea but then again it's better to get 2 achievements in one playthrough or whatever (literally my user lmao)

[left crypt]

Oh yea

Forgot about that

[brave geyser]

There's the new gauntlet but yknow by that point you should be spawnkilling those guys

[undone gate]

I don't care that much for Achievements

[brave geyser]

that's fair

[wind mulch]

are u talking about me

[mental snow]

Are you talking about Khann's gauntlet or?

[brave geyser]

I do still think 100% silksong is too grindy and boring

[heady iron]

nah you're not blocked

[brave geyser]

Hunter's march

[meager jolt]

I don't think there's enough bosses in Act 3 to be saying "top 5"

[brave geyser]

There's like 13

[undone gate]

There are 15 bosses in Act 3

[mental snow]

...I'mma be real, I forgot what the gauntlet was but it can't be THAT bad.

[meager jolt]

🗣️ 🔥

[brave geyser]

It's like 3 waves of voided skarr

if you can't spawn kill them dni

[trim estuary]

No, there is. Here’s my ranking:

1. Crawfather
2. Crawfather
3. Crawfather
4. Crawfather
5. Crawfather

[left crypt]

Zango, pale, watcher, craw, Seth

[meager jolt]

Oh damn really I thought it was 9

[earnest drift]

is silksong really more linear than hollow knight

[mental snow]

Brother, if I don't spawn kill them, I just kill them

[trim estuary]

Absolutely

[opaque sigil]

best boss in the game everything else is meh

[earnest drift]

iirc hollow knight is linear until fungal wastes

silksong is linear until the marrow?

[left crypt]

Silksong linear till citadel

[undone gate]

I think 13 bosses is for Act 1

[earnest drift]

what about the wormways and sinner's road paths

[heady iron]

We must push the crawgenda

[left crypt]

Linear till widow

Worm ways is like Crystal peak

[brave geyser]

Mfs when i fight first sinner before widow

[hardy tangle]

if zango is a boss why not craggler

[undone gate]

Slightly more linier without skips HK is not like insanely diverse

[left crypt]

Glitches

[earnest drift]

is wormways to shellwood a skip

[meager jolt]

Sure

[left crypt]

HK is linear until ddive

[brave geyser]

If it's without sprint totally

[undone gate]

No unless you do it without dash

[mental snow]

Bone Bottom's "An Icon of Hope" quest took all of my Shell Shards and left 10

[brave geyser]

Sounds about right

[earnest drift]

i'm replaying hk right now and i went all the way through deepnest after mantis lords for no reward

[undone gate]

Get the tram pass at least

[mental snow]

I have around 2K Rosaries right now and I know for damn sure Jubilana's taking more than just that

[earnest drift]

i forgot how to do that

[left crypt]

Grindle

[trim estuary]

Jubilana’s prices are perfectly reasonable, you’re just broke!

[undone gate]

I don't remember the location but I know you can get the tram pass with just claw and dash

[mental snow]

I haven't even unlocked wings yet

[meager jolt]

It's kinda near Galien, top left of the map

[mental snow]

(I'm about to though)

[undone gate]

After Tram Pass you can play the game very differently

[brave geyser]

Does someone like have an all bosses no upgrades save they can lend

[opaque sigil]

hornet sure felt some weight

[meager jolt]

Oof

[rocky jolt]

yes it is lol

[earnest drift]

what about the wormways route

[astral bison]

hii

[rocky jolt]

da what

[earnest drift]

you can go there after deep docks i think

[undone gate]

The wormways route you go through the wormways after getting dash to reach all the way to shellwood

[mental snow]

I really hope they make a Blue version of Trobbio, I seriously do

It'd be so funny

[slender juniper]

You also have far fields non-lace route

Skip her with the key

[undone gate]

And the flea route

[lucid trellis]

rate the pfp

[round island]

just finished a cursed run, god this game is hard 😵‍💫

[earnest drift]

idk if that counts

[slender juniper]

Yes it does

[fiery burrow]

GG

[earnest drift]

compared to hollow knight you have

[rocky jolt]

every other path to progress requires a simple key lol

[slender juniper]

The same thing

[earnest drift]

crossroads - greenpath - fungal wastes
then you can go to fog canyon but that goes nowhere

[earnest drift]

so?

[mental snow]

"the game isn't hard, ur just bad lol"

-Like half of Reddit

[rocky jolt]

you are forced to grind rosaries

[slender juniper]

False

[earnest drift]

like lumafly lantern?

[winged crow]

i like bell beast

[slender juniper]

500 rosaries is really easy to get

[rocky jolt]

i had to take the deep docks key to progress

[slender juniper]

If you know all the rosary spots

And strings

[earnest drift]

so silksong is more linear than hollow knight but not by a lot

[undone gate]

Yea in a new playthrow I always go Wormways route

[slender juniper]

The marrow rosary spots is 160 rosaries alone + strings

So you actually only have to farm 300

[harsh yarrow]

Wormways route is a fun way up to Bellhart

[slender juniper]

But there's a rosary necklace in march

[harsh yarrow]

Though I do it too much and need to mix in more of the Cloak Route

[slender juniper]

Wait lemme think

The marrow - bonebottom has like 230 rosaries and 2 frayed strings

[earnest drift]

hollow knight is better than silksong because hollow knight bosses don't summon minions

[meager jolt]

Me too

[meager jolt]

Or have a gauntlet before the fight

Also Hollow Knight has Grimm

[undone gate]

People exaggerate the amount of Silksong bosses that summon enemies

[earnest drift]

i like gauntlets

[astral olive]

I like the gauntlets

[slender juniper]

There's a free rosary string in far fields

So that's cool

[normal bramble]

Beast fly, sister splinter, woah I feel like I’m out of bosses

[meager jolt]

Required ones you have to do over and over before even fighting the boss itself?

[earnest drift]

i will compare

[earnest drift]

yes

[astral olive]

Also, farming for rosaries is easy.

[rocky jolt]

lost kin summons are so fun bro!

[meager jolt]

Okay everyone has their own opinions

[astral olive]

You get in a groove.

[rocky jolt]

but then again beastfly 1 has the worst summons out of any hollow knight boss

[normal bramble]

Beast fly, sister splinter, raging conch fly, craw father, forebrothers

That’s literally it for bosses that spawn enemies in silksong

[earnest drift]

broken vessel, lost kin, collector, soul warrior, flukemarm, hive knight (but in a good way), vengefly king, uumuu (godhome), grey prince zote, winged nosk

[earnest drift]

groal

[astral olive]

Like, there's enemy movement knowledge you can usually exploit to make gauntlet's simple to do

[normal bramble]

I don’t count it cause groal isn’t on screen during that

Otherwise you could also count the unravelled

[earnest drift]

and groal does it in a good way

[modest stirrup]

I thought you said you were gonna sleep

[earnest drift]

i would count the unravelled

[normal bramble]

I personally exclude them both

[undone gate]

Broodmother and both Moss Mothers

[slender juniper]

I can't sleep

But I should

[normal bramble]

Oh I forgot about them

[meager jolt]

Count sheep

[modest stirrup]

answer my question before you do pls :3

[normal bramble]

I always just consider brood mother summons part of her regular attacks lol

[slender juniper]

Ok

[slender juniper]

I can't count past 10

What then

[meager jolt]

Aw so sad :(

[normal bramble]

Alright so

[earnest drift]

Beastfly 1, beastfly 2, sister splinter, raging conch fly, crawfather, forebrothers, groal, unravelled, broodmother, moss mother 1, moss mother 2

[slender juniper]

Yes?

[earnest drift]

it doesn't look like a massive difference

[normal bramble]

Of those 2 don’t actually fight alongside their summons

[modest stirrup]

Its in thr channels

[astral olive]

They basically are.

Theyre the thing that makes her dangerous rather than a dirt simple boss

[meager jolt]

It is, tho, that's all base game

[normal bramble]

Fair (I just silk spear the adds which oneshot them as soon as they spawn so she is still just a dirt simple boss)

[slender juniper]

What does purging messages even mean

[weary acorn]

the designation of "sister" splinter implies there is at least one more as they are clearly not an only child

[slender juniper]

[modest stirrup]

Deleting all msgs from a channel or certain user

[slender juniper]

They should be able to

[undone gate]

That's what I meant

[modest stirrup]

Can I ping one to help?

[normal bramble]

Almost all those bosses are at the start of the game

[left crypt]

Nyleth

[meager jolt]

Check her Needolin dialogue

[slender juniper]

Sure

[normal bramble]

Raging conch fly directly uses his enemies in his attack patterns

[modest stirrup]

Okay

[normal bramble]

Unravelled and groal never fight alongside their adds

[undone gate]

It uses minions in a really good way

[meager jolt]

Conchfly is a she

[normal bramble]

Forebrothers spawn like the most forgettable adds ever

[normal bramble]

Oh actually?

[undone gate]

Unless your doing Act 3 Forebrothers

[meager jolt]

Ye

[weary acorn]

they are so forgettable that when you listed forebrothers the first time i was like "wait they spawn stuff?"

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-block-tales-hatred-the-air-tingles-with-a-looming-sense-of-dread-gif-2508651108538588172

[meager jolt]

They most likely both are shes

[normal bramble]

Good to know

[rocky jolt]

WHOOP HIS AHH DAREDEVIL

[weary acorn]

dear god

[meager jolt]

MY BABY WHAT ARE YOU DOING SO CLOSE TO THE SUN

[normal bramble]

So if we want the list of bosses in silksong that actually intrude on their fights in an annoying way it’s just
Crawfather : who’s only difficulty is his summons and he’s like nothing without them
Sister splinter
Moss mother (I guess…)
Forebrothers (also I guess…)
And beastfly (the only real offender)

[undone gate]

And also both the Moss Mother's and Broodmother minions die in one hit
So the only notable minion bosses are the 2 Savage Beastlys and Sister Splitter and Craw Father

[weary acorn]

bro is flying too close to the sun
-# metaphorically

[normal bramble]

Beastfly is the only boss where the summons are truly evil

[rocky jolt]

crawfather is actually fun unlike beastfly and lost kin

[normal bramble]

Crawfather makes sense with his adds

[undone gate]

Also for bosses like Forebrothers and Unraveled minions spawn in certain hp thresholds and not as a attack

[rocky jolt]

Beastfly 2 is actually kinda Decent

[normal bramble]

Unravelled is so nice he even leaves until you kill them

So his adds really just serve as for you to get silk and bind

[tight hull]

hello

[undone gate]

Yea for the unraveled the minions are phace changes

[tight hull]

what's going on?

[astral olive]

Beastfly would be an extremely easy boss with no minions.

Honestly most of the minion summoning bosses would be way too easy without their little adds

[normal bramble]

Beastfly is the only boss where the minions even makes them hard tbhhhh

[slender juniper]

Why does beastfly send minors to war

[normal bramble]

Well act

Crawfather as well

[undone gate]

Most of Silksong bosses summon minions is just a really overblown response done by people who hate Savage Beastly

[tight hull]

why people like crawfather?

[normal bramble]

Crawfather is such a non-threat but the spam of crows in a small arena is actually infinitely harder then the boss ever is

[astral olive]

I will say I found Splinter hard thanks to the adds at first, only because I didn't think to catch them in a silk storm

But that was on me

[normal bramble]

I found them hard until I realized silk spear solves all problems in life

(They die to like 1)

And it breaks all the vines

[undone gate]

Yea Silk Skills are so good against Sister Splitter

[earnest drift]

crawfather is like the most minion spammy boss in both games so i have no idea how he manages to still be fun

[astral olive]

I like storm cause I can get both without having to maneuver them into position

[normal bramble]

Probably just because his fight doesn’t feel too hard even with the spam because of how late he isand he’s thematically really cool

[astral olive]

Just wait for them to attack on both sides and dead

[fleet violet]

Blar

[tight hull]

guys what act 2 boss you would put on act 1?

[undone gate]

Crawfather himself is very simple for Act 3 so combining him with some craw summons makes it fun

[astral olive]

None. I like the boss progression

[normal bramble]

I think everything per act is perfectly fine tbh

[broken seal]

none of the bosses that summon more enemies (in this game) were bad for me in that regard except for tbh broodmother and Unravelled and KINDA beastfly 1+2 all the other minion bosses were actually good with it tbh

[astral olive]

They're very good teaching tools

[tight hull]

but what act 2 boss you think is easy enough to do with all the things you can get in act 1?

[astral olive]

Learn how to beat them, you learn how to play better

[astral olive]

All of them?

[undone gate]

Unraveled only summons minions in phace transitions so it isin't a huge problem

[normal bramble]

Almost all of them

[broken seal]

None of the act 2 bosses really feel like they need to be in act 1 that i can think of off the top of my head

[astral olive]

You dont need anything beyond the needle for any of the bosses

Tools just make the fights easier

[normal bramble]

In act 1 you can get drifters cloak, upgraded hunters, and a nail upgrade

[tight hull]

makes sense

[undone gate]

I mean I don't think Seth is hard with Act 1 level equipment once you learn bosses attack patterns they become really easy

[normal bramble]

You literally need nothing else

[broken seal]

yeah but it slows down the fight progression a lot and is just annoying, not terrible but still meh

[tight hull]

but isn't seth act 3?

[slender juniper]

Replace lace 1 with 2

[broken seal]

probably Great Conchflies

[normal bramble]

Great conchflies is act 1

[broken seal]

OH YEAH IT IS

[undone gate]

Yea I am saying that since I learned Seth patterns fighting him with Act 1 level equipment is easy

[broken seal]

mb i'm dumb lol

[tight hull]

the single conchfly

idk the name

[normal bramble]

Imo that’s fine as a act 2 fight

[hardy tangle]

crawfather is the best ads spawner since enraged conchfly cheats

[normal bramble]

I don’t even think it’s fair to call them adds

[astral olive]

Heck you dont need the cloak for Fourth Chorus. It's dull as dishwater but you can spend the multiple minutes beating it with the needle. I hated it.

[slender juniper]

Deadly lesbian

[broken seal]

Cogwork Dancers is definitely something you could do in Act 1 just fine but it obviously fits into the locations of Act 2 MUUCH better

[hardy tangle]

just killable attacks

[brave geyser]

Is using the bomb to kill sb2 considered cheating

[slender juniper]

I haven't fought chorus in a long time

[normal bramble]

Cogwork dancers can be done with any hp or set up ever

[undone gate]

Most people get no Act 2 upgrades before fighting Cogwork Dancers

[broken seal]

nah it's sick asf looking

[brave geyser]

Aight bet

[broken seal]

yeah ik lmao

[mental snow]

I just wandered around aimlessly for like 10 minutes, forgetting the fact I didn't take the intended path to Clawline lmao

[normal bramble]

I basically always run just the standard 1 needle upgrade for cogwork

[slender juniper]

I saw a streamer get 2 melodies without any needle upgrades on their first playthrough

[normal bramble]

I typically don’t go back and get upgraded hunters until I also get the vaults pale oil

[normal bramble]

LMFAO?

Lemme guess, didn’t do high halls?

[broken seal]

please help my streamer is washed

[slender juniper]

They never talked to plinney or any bellhart npc lmao I made them talk to them dw

[normal bramble]

Got the other two

[undone gate]

High Halls nail 0 is really fun and really hard

[astral olive]

My first playthrough involved me not noticing the updrafte that let you drop the explosives on its head. Cue ten minutes of me hitting it till it finally fell over with the most bored expression on my face ever. Turned a spectacle into a slog

[normal bramble]

High halls nail 1 took me genuine hours (tbf I was also on beast crest)

[molten smelt]

high hall sound silly
i wish there was an easier way

[tight hull]

vaultkeeper and conductor's?

[normal bramble]

I did it again with hunters and did it in like 3 attempts

[molten smelt]

real

[tight hull]

I hate hhg

[broken seal]

for a first playthrough for someone who isn't a big member of the genre? (Skipped npcs, didn't know about needle upgrades)

[molten smelt]

hunter crest so good

[normal bramble]

I LOVE hhg

[astral olive]

Hunter is cool like that. 🙂

[slender juniper]

Yup ,they did last judge on needle 0 and wondered why it was frustrating

[tight hull]

idk I can do every gauntlet on the game but I can't hhg

[slender juniper]

Well no shit

[normal bramble]

Last judge is what got me to backtrack to the weavenests and see what was there lmfao

[slender juniper]

[last marten]

You are completely ||allowed to have your own opinions||

[broken seal]

We need to spread the propaganda of calling it "The Forum" or "Forum" instead of "hhg" because the proper name is Forum and it has so much more aura as a name

[normal bramble]

I literally went like “nah this is some bs lemme go check that thing from the widow cutscene”

[molten smelt]

thabk you

[astral olive]

Okay, but last judge is piss easy? Like, genuinely if you know the pattern you can just beat it while not trying.

[molten smelt]

i suck at hunter crest but i love it sm

[main glacier]

i said fuck it and started a regular steel soul 100% run. after playing barebones hornet for hours i feel like a fucking MONSTER having silkspear

[slender juniper]

Istg bellhart should have a large ass sign saying "DAMAGE UPGRADE ABOVE"

[astral olive]

What's your issue?

[tight hull]

I love last judge, she's much easier than phantom for me

[slender juniper]

AT NEEDLE 0

[molten smelt]

its still rly impressive esp for like first run needle 0

[molten smelt]

i get hit xd

[broken seal]

I struggle infinitely more with Phantom over LJ. I can do Phantom just fine but LJ is much more consistent and easy for me

[normal bramble]

I’m being so real Im binded till silk spear forever

[main glacier]

last judge with needle 0 has a LOT of health tbh

[mental snow]

Bought Sawtooth Circlet. I might as well get used to it.

[undone gate]

Once you learn Last Judge, Last Judge is way easier than Phantom

[normal bramble]

Silk spear solves any and all issues you could ever have

[last marten]

Bruh wtf it was like the opposite for me

[molten smelt]

hell yeah

[main glacier]

turnarounds 🤤

[normal bramble]

There’s no scenario in silksong where silk spear isn’t a good choice

[molten smelt]

sawtooth forever and ever and ever

[last marten]

It took me an hour to do LJ, I beat Phantom my third try

[undone gate]

Phantom is just more un-predictable than Last Judge

[broken seal]

It's so peak

[normal bramble]

Cross stitch on the other hand…

Icl I kinda dislike cross stitch now

[broken seal]

[undone gate]

When did you fight Phantom

[normal bramble]

It feels so slow

[slender juniper]

Last judge lowkey piss easy with magma bell

[astral olive]

A good tactic is patience. Don't rush. Watch your enemy and they'll do something you can punish aerially.

[molten smelt]

oooh ok ty

[tight hull]

magma bell + silkspeed anklets

[last marten]

Admittedly kinda later on

[broken seal]

Cross Stitch is sooo good but i've grown more attached to other silk skills

[slender juniper]

On wanderer

[undone gate]

Phantom is made for Act 1 gear

[molten smelt]

normally i kinda miss like punishes with sawtooth

or find it harder to use

[normal bramble]

Cross stitch
-> makes you wait to get hit
-> expects you to be in scenarios where your getting hit
-> if your forcing an activation you might as well run silk spear or sharpdart as it’ll be easier

[last marten]

Oh

[normal bramble]

It also can get you hit if the boss decides to be silly and not hit you during the counter

[last marten]

I fought her well into Act2

[slender juniper]

Shartfart my beloved

[normal bramble]

And can also just waste 4 silk way easier then every other silk skill (not called rune rage)

[astral olive]

Every enemy has a moveset that they telegraph. They'll cycle through those moves in such a way that you can learn to anticipate which move is coming next before they do it.

[undone gate]

She wouldn't be that easy if you fought her with the same gear as you had for Last Judge

[normal bramble]

Cross stitch genuinely went from my top 1 to like 5th

[tight hull]

I did Phantom when I already got the double jump 😔

[astral olive]

Learn the moves, you learn when to hurt them and when to dodge

[last marten]

I fought Phantom 2 weeks 1 day after I beat LJ

[broken seal]

it allows you to full aggro with needle dps (highest and most consistent dps option between tool spam and silk skills ((depending on crest)) and use cross stitch to keep pressure active and maintain Hunter focus (with Hunter) and keep you completely safe with the insane I-Frames and shockingly good damage levels

[molten smelt]

yeahh
but how do i like effectively punishh some moves
like sawtooth on lace i ofteb dont even go for

[broken seal]

That's what makes it so good

but i get why people don't like it lol

[tight hull]

bro was counting the days😭

[normal bramble]

Just not for me tbh

[last marten]

I wasnt I just looked at my Steam achievments

[molten smelt]

or like
i guess im asking how to effectively punish

[tight hull]

oh makes sense lol

[normal bramble]

Id rather completely focus on never being in a scenario where id be hit

[molten smelt]

like do i clawline in and spam attack and jump

[normal bramble]

It’s also why I adore long claw

It lets you play really aggro while being just that much farther