sk-discussion

[orchid spruce]

may also have something to do with void

[errant ingot]

i think salubra does

[analog mist]

and there's no plasmified creatures in hk

[quartz gulch]

Probably cuz it's banned??
Also Salubra literally says so.

[toxic vigil]

worst ragebait ever

[normal bramble]

Banned for a reason

[errant ingot]

bc pale king is good king

[orchid spruce]

cuz it's banned

[analog mist]

what about places like jonis repose

[quartz gulch]

Oh my fucking god.

[errant ingot]

joni was criminal?

idk rly

[orchid spruce]

sealed away

[quartz gulch]

Literally called a Heretic.

[analog mist]

so?

[orchid spruce]

so what?

[analog mist]

I'm pretty sure there were regular creatures in that cave

besides yk

THE KING IS DEAD.

[orchid spruce]

were there? if there were, it's just another case of retcon. we love retcons

[quartz gulch]

I think you need to be less descriptive.

[minor plank]

Plasmium is 100% the same as lifeblood

[analog mist]

the king has been dead for a long time and it only took a single act for plasmium to spread all over the wormways

[minor plank]

Idk how that’s even a question

[analog mist]

could be

[orchid spruce]

may have something to do with void

[quartz gulch]

"A single Act"
A literal addict injected it everywhere he could, how the fuck is that a simple act?

[orchid spruce]

Act as in Act 2 to Act 3

[analog mist]

injected?

[orchid spruce]

[analog mist]

he literally just planted seeds

[minor plank]

To be fair the alchemist had been studying it in the wormways for a long time

So it was there for a while

[normal bramble]

He injected it before hornet even got there

[slate wagon]

“a single act”
tylenol and his assistant have been injecting plasimum directly into the wildlife and fauna
they just accelerated it

[cedar trench]

log in
no sos news
kill dog pup in the middle of the street
go to bed
repeat

[orchid spruce]

void may be a growth stimulant for plasmium

[normal bramble]

Like wormways probably had gallons of Plasmium injected into it

[quartz gulch]

Nope, doesn't add up logically.

[cedar trench]

confirmed

[brave salmon]

Nice selfie

[timid plinth]

where did they get the plasmium from

[cedar trench]

somewhere else

[still osprey]

More reason Zango is a fucking idiot

[minor plank]

Would make sense considering where the lifeblood creature is in the first game

[slate wagon]

found it in the ocean

[cedar trench]

i'm not even trying to be funny

[orchid spruce]

their buttcracks

[timid plinth]

how did they get so many 😭

[slate wagon]

literally

[quartz gulch]

"Ooooh you got me, oh no"

[cedar trench]

there's plenty near saltwater

[timid plinth]

oh true

[still osprey]

The bay...

[knotty wren]

Act 1 comes before act 2.

[analog mist]

oh right

[normal bramble]

Zango says they found it somewhere on the outskirts of pharloom or smth

[brave salmon]

What it's a good selfie don't be rude

[analog mist]

fair fair

[quartz gulch]

Didn't they say that somewhere near it or something? I don't recall it coming from in the ocean.

[brave salmon]

I wish I looked this snatched

[stable mica]

yo guys, where would SOS actually loacte in tho

[timid plinth]

sea of sorrow coming out in july gang

[normal bramble]

July 2077*

[stable mica]

i mean there's sea thingy and Pharloom is under ground

[quartz gulch]

Cut content.

[brave salmon]

True its a crossover with Cyberpunk

[quartz gulch]

So is the entire world of HK, so the surface is just the surface level underground.

[stable mica]

how does it has an entire sea tho

[normal bramble]

I find it hilarious it’s next to bilewater

[slate wagon]

near, in, same thing
you have ocean you have lifeblood

[analog mist]

"Plasmium was first discovered by my master at the farthest edge of Pharloom, hidden deep in salt-stricken waters. I brought it to these caves under her direction, to study how it flourishes in a foreign place."

[quartz gulch]

Why? Bilewater was polluted, the further left you go the less pollution there is.

[normal bramble]

It means The citadel decided to put their navy port right next to where they dump their sewage

[minor plank]

Please be a Bellway station at pharloom bay. It would really suck having to go through all of bilewater to get there

[normal bramble]

Like

[stable mica]

also funny enough i thought its next to Putrified for some reason

[timid plinth]

there should be.. i hope

[normal bramble]

Just why???

[timid plinth]

it would make sense

[normal bramble]

?

[quartz gulch]

They dump their sewage on the guys giving them silk (Sinner's Road->Greymoor), you think they give a fuck?

[normal bramble]

That’s right next to the bellway

In uhh bilewater

It’s not that far of a run

[quartz gulch]

Ducts would suck even more, Bilewater has cool music and all. Though I think we can assume there will be submarine fast travel or something.

[stable mica]

Pharloom map has more unfilled space than HK

[normal bramble]

If I remember bilewater bell way is like right next to where the bay is

[minor plank]

Probably

[minor plank]

Not even close

[stable mica]

tbh i dont think HK has any unfilled space bewteen areas

[minor plank]

It’s next to the exhaust organ

[still osprey]

Kinda, the bay is probably around where Shakra is

That's not too far away

[stable mica]

nah its right sided

[minor plank]

It’s on the opposite side yeah

[normal bramble]

Like

The bellway is here and the bay would be on this right side

[still osprey]

Yea that's like not that far at all

[normal bramble]

That’s really not far

[quartz gulch]

There are several caved in part in Bilewater and Ducts, they could easily lead to bay.

I don't have images though.

[stable mica]

how to break through tho, but still make sense lore wise

[normal bramble]

I could imagine it being like here

[analog mist]

farlom

[normal bramble]

The only place that I could think of is by where Shakra’s master is

[still osprey]

The zoomed out Bilewater map looks so weird without Pharloom Bay there like there's just an empty Square

[stable mica]

i mean its likely act2 or after act3

[quartz gulch]

You need to show in-game though, so to see actual connection elements.

[analog mist]

farlum

[quartz gulch]

Much of the HK map has that...

[normal bramble]

The bellway is right of exhaust organ

[stable mica]

ooh

[quartz gulch]

Memory fight when?
Unless it sucks as much as Elder Hu and Shakra.

[stable mica]

ye big open space

[normal bramble]

It basically has to be to the right of where Shakra sells her map

[errant ingot]

90% of mount fay is empty space

[stable mica]

but looking at full map i think that unfilled part is pretty much bilewater

[still osprey]

Goddddd I'm so excited for Pharloom Bay

[stable mica]

no i mean the holes in the map

[toxic vigil]

yeah

[stable mica]

how do i say this

[errant ingot]

like underworks rightside?

[steep jolt]

bro theres already a mod that recreates it

[minor plank]

Pharloom bay will be accessed from the weavenest in Bilewater

[stable mica]

ye smth like ts

[errant ingot]

theres a weavenest there?

[still osprey]

Is there really

[stable mica]

im not sure

[normal bramble]

Now what I think annoys me the most

[steep jolt]

yes, im pretty sure its one of 2 act 2 weavenests

[normal bramble]

Is the space above shellwood

[stable mica]

average act3 backtracking

[steep jolt]

that will be filled...

[errant ingot]

what annoys me most is the middle of mount fay

[steep jolt]

just remember grand gate

for act 3

it genuinely pmo so hard

[minor plank]

Weavenest murglin if I remember correctly

[slender juniper]

HORNET
Homophobic
Opulent
Racist
Necromantic
Extra
Transphobic

[errant ingot]

is is close to groal the great

[still osprey]

Murglin can be accessed in Act 1

[normal bramble]

Also this

[steep jolt]

please elaborate

[stable mica]

Karm has the same thing

[stable mica]

oh u dont wanna know soon

[normal bramble]

You can get int bilewater via sinners road

[quartz gulch]

Hints at connection near Weavenest.

[still osprey]

You just enter Bilewater through Sinner's Road and swim past the muchwater into the weavenest

[normal bramble]

Then make it the weaavenest without double jump

[minor plank]

No

[normal bramble]

It’s the only thing you can actually do

[steep jolt]

what pisses me off is the fact that its not from shellwood or blasted but from grand gate

[stable mica]

very wild ik

[quartz gulch]

Nope.

[minor plank]

It’s on the bottom of bilewater

[normal bramble]

Actually you can get faydown in act 1 and do the entirety of bilewater in act 1

[steep jolt]

isnt the only bilewater place in act 1 exhaust organ

[analog mist]

is there lore on exactly WHY did the weavers take over

[steep jolt]

yes

[stable mica]

the area might be bigger ALOT than the cut content image

[steep jolt]

because gms was the ruler and she made them her children so they ruled

by putting her to sleep

[still osprey]

Everything pre-Shakra is accessible in Act 1

[analog mist]

all I know is that gms lied to them

[minor plank]

You can also get there through the right side of sinners road so no

[steep jolt]

ok

[still osprey]

Including the bellway

[stable mica]

i dont think Groal is accesible

[merry ginkgo]

chat i hav a question

[steep jolt]

she said they were special when they were just ordinary bugs uplifted

[stable mica]

oh wait im dum

[slender juniper]

"please sleep mama we hate you, let's make all the pilgrims sing and keep mama a sleep because WE HATE MAMA" "oh fuck we're broke bye bitch we're migrating"

[still osprey]

Groal is literally not pre-shakra

[merry ginkgo]

best tool in each category

[normal bramble]

If you do act 1 faydown it is

:p

[stable mica]

ye ik i just being dum for a minute

[still osprey]

Is act 1 faydown even possible on current patch

[steep jolt]

act 1 faydown is easier then act 2 faydown

[normal bramble]

Is it?

I haven’t tried

[stable mica]

no?

[analog mist]

yellow tool easily magnetite dice

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[quartz gulch]

Sure, but it could be a sub-area with a Bellway and the Submarine leading to the actual area. There could also be:
-sub-area (connection)
-Pharloom Bay
-Inside the sea (cave systems underwater, etc.)

[quartz gulch]

Heavy Belt is far better.

[normal bramble]

Yellow : dice
Blue : sawtooth
Red : Voltvessels

[desert compass]

guys how does the autosave function work, can I just go to any mode back and forth or do I lose progress?

[analog mist]

but I don't get it

[stable mica]

to be a "sea" it must be big

[still osprey]

Red - idk it really depends on the situation
Blue - Sawtooth Circlet
Yellow - Magnetite Dice

[stable mica]

im thinking Putrified Ducts is the entrance

[slender juniper]

No ,if you rewind saves it doesn't delete your previous auto saves ,

[stable mica]

then dive down to Bile or smth like that

[merry ginkgo]

for me its dice yellow, blue i dont use saw tooth so the thing that maks me heal faster , red tools i think the conchcutter

[desert compass]

so I can redo bosses?

[slender juniper]

For example you can go back to act2 and then back to act 3

[steep jolt]

its gonna be from bilewater

[merry ginkgo]

i fuckin forgot the healin tool again

[normal bramble]

Sawtooth is absurdly stupid

[quartz gulch]

Subjective:
-Injector Band
-Heavy Belt
-Idc about red, I use whatever is most fun at the moment. Style-wise Rosary Cannon

[slender juniper]

Yeah

[merry ginkgo]

ye injector

[still osprey]

Circlet is broken and should be nerfed

[quartz gulch]

As I said.

[merry ginkgo]

ye but im 100% alr so i dont hav any boss to try it on

[normal bramble]

Injector band is good but like sawtooth is actually just probably the greatest case of “how was this balenced???”

[slender juniper]

Just do flower first

[merry ginkgo]

cuz ok who the fuc uses saw tooth on lost lace

[analog mist]

my fav blue tool is injector band

[stable mica]

obvious as it should

[normal bramble]

Me

[merry ginkgo]

.

[normal bramble]

Because it’s broken.

[stable mica]

not confirmed

[slender juniper]

Me

[merry ginkgo]

how she is so small

[still osprey]

I love doing 28 damage from pressing the Jump button once

[normal bramble]

Just absurdly broken

[steep jolt]

w take

[steep jolt]

it litterally is tho

[analog mist]

Id probably pick sawtooth if knew how to use it and didn't have a silk issue

[steep jolt]

on maps team cherry posted it shows it coming out of bilewater

[normal bramble]

I love faydown slash cloak doing the equivalent of 3 hits at once

[quartz gulch]

My ears are broken after that fucking sound.

[slender juniper]

Injector band is MID

[merry ginkgo]

i need a pantheon to rlly try saw tooth out

[normal bramble]

With literally no effort

[stable mica]

no the image is cut content which means its in Alpha?

[slender juniper]

That's right I said it inj band IS MID

💀

[quartz gulch]

Bait harder.

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[still osprey]

Whatever go my tool tier list

[normal bramble]

Ima be real injector band is an item I’ve been not using as much

[slender juniper]

No it's actually mid, if you don't make stupid heals it's very easy to replace

[merry ginkgo]

SNITH PICK S TIER????

[normal bramble]

Sawtooth is so fair and balanced

[still osprey]

Yea? Ofc

[normal bramble]

Oh also why does Shakra rings not have its own tier called Poshanka?

[slender juniper]

Just learn how to safely and then it's usseles

[merry ginkgo]

the fuc

[quartz gulch]

That is the worst statement possible regarding this tool.

[still osprey]

Snitch Pick is great

[merry ginkgo]

warding bell a tier?

[slender juniper]

No it's true

[stable mica]

yes that is in from cut content images

[desert compass]

B tier i wanna say

[normal bramble]

Id say C

[slender juniper]

If you know your heal timings injector band is very replacable

[steep jolt]

how are we hating on pollip pouch tho genuinely

[quartz gulch]

An opinion is not a truth.

[merry ginkgo]

POLLIP POUCH LITTERLY ONE TEH WORST TIER?

[merry ginkgo]

ye

[normal bramble]

Situationally good for witch crest nukes but like other that who cares

[still osprey]

Pollip Pouch is garbage lol

[analog mist]

it doesn't stack

[steep jolt]

nah team cherry dmed me that image and said it was part of sea of sorrow

[analog mist]

so its ass

[rugged star]

pollip pouch is stinky

[slender juniper]

But it litteraly Is the truth you don't need inj band if you can heal without it

[steep jolt]

ok do you stack

[merry ginkgo]

its not that bad honestly

[stable mica]

5 years ago bud

[analog mist]

no so I suck

[timid plinth]

i would say it is a great starter tool so probably A

[merry ginkgo]

its not the worst

[silk pumice]

why is barbed bracelet in b

[steep jolt]

no

[slender juniper]

Replace injector band with sawtooth circlet

[merry ginkgo]

he is in late game

[keen solstice]

Pollip pouch is literally the worst blue tool

[steep jolt]

you dont suck

[stable mica]

uh huh?

[timid plinth]

oh

[steep jolt]

are genuinely deadass

[silk pumice]

memory crystal

[slender juniper]

Also injector band is a tool that relies on you getting hit to work

[still osprey]

It is the worst, the only contender for a worse blue tool is wispfire lantern

[quartz gulch]

That logic is as stupid everywhere. "You can just hit normally, Sawtooth is mid. You can just dodge, Anklets/Dice is mid."

[slender juniper]

That is immediately a minus

[desert compass]

it IS a fact tho because if you know when to heal then injector band can be used less and then u can go into not using it at all

[merry ginkgo]

ig

[keen solstice]

Deals 32 dmg lol

[potent vessel]

we ALL love scuttlebrace

[analog mist]

question

[steep jolt]

isnt this like 99% of blue tools

[still osprey]

It's actually pathetic how bad Pollip Pouch is

[merry ginkgo]

memory is the worts blue in my opinion

[silk pumice]

you need to get hit for it though

[analog mist]

does maining wanderer makes me suck

[quartz gulch]

Clearly you don't understand tools.

[keen solstice]

That's more than 6 ticks of pollip pouch

[merry ginkgo]

its ahh in late game

[minor plank]

I love pollip pouch sm

[keen solstice]

Not hard to happen lol

[slender juniper]

No but it's not even an opinion it's the truth, if you can help without band you don't need it

[merry ginkgo]

no i dont think so

[steep jolt]

its pathetic how much glaze sawtooth circlet does like just hit faster lol

[minor plank]

It’s so much fun

[silk pumice]

i do hitless runs while toolless

[desert compass]

⁉️⁉️⁉️

[analog mist]

perfect for me (who gets hit a lot)

[silk pumice]

its pretty easy for me

[stable mica]

it increase dps by alot what?

[keen solstice]

Sawtooth deals 28 dmg and can be done in the middle of swinging with other crests.

[merry ginkgo]

its a good tool but i got it when i was gettin late game

[slender juniper]

300 hours of playtime but ok

[merry ginkgo]

chat shall i do my tier list

[stable mica]

isnt it 26?

[desert compass]

it doesnt “rely on u getting hit to work” because architect crest exists

[merry ginkgo]

on tools

[still osprey]

It's 27+1

[keen solstice]

Yes we are
Pollip pouch is literally genuine dogass

[stable mica]

oh

[steep jolt]

yea just become strong and hit faster with the needle

[still osprey]

So, 28 damage

[merry ginkgo]

should i

[keen solstice]

• doesn't stack
• is reset and removed on every tool hit

[timid plinth]

what is the +1 for

[steep jolt]

ok are we forgetting about memory crystal and shi

[stable mica]

or get a 100% dps increase yeah

[minor plank]

I personally don’t like sawtooth circlet

[keen solstice]

Not to mention abysmal damage in generla

[merry ginkgo]

cuz i think i am screwed if i do

[steep jolt]

guys i think i figured it out

[keen solstice]

Deals more damage than pollip and by a mile lmfao

[slender juniper]

That's not even an opinion, injector band DOES rely on you getting hit to work

[steep jolt]

all you guys care about is tool spam and getting the most dps instead of actually having fun

[slender juniper]

That's it's literal function

[potent vessel]

😰

[stable mica]

wha r we on about?

[potent vessel]

that was not the emoji i meant to send but ig it works

[quartz gulch]

I don't use it to heal when I'm not supposed to, I use it to:
-Heal faster (quality of life)
-Use Multibinder easier (still faster than normal bind)
-Heal in situations that it normally doesn't work (literally using the tool for tech)

Not needing to heal doesn't mean it is bad, it means you don't understand "subjective". For you it IS bad, because you don't need it.

[merry ginkgo]

phew i ain doin a tierlist

[keen solstice]

Needle deals 21 dmg
Sawtooth deals 28
You can use sawtooth in the middle of normal crest attacks

[timid plinth]

i like injector band with beast crest

[minor plank]

Tools spam is better than wanderers imo

[potent vessel]

no need for heal tools if you dont get hit

[stable mica]

and OP comboes

[potent vessel]

this is why WE use barbed bracelet

[merry ginkgo]

guys ima send u my load out rn and rate it how it is

[desert compass]

“u dont need to use ____ because u can just get better”

whilst tools are designed for gameplay

so atp just dont wear any tools if ur gonna say its not needed 😭😭😭

[still osprey]

I don't even spam tools pollip pouch just sucks

[minor plank]

I’m actually the #1 wanderers crest hater

[keen solstice]

Wanderer is on the lower end of crests lmao

[minor plank]

It saps the fun from the game

[slender juniper]

Yeah that's litteraly what's it's for, you don't need none of those if you can heal slower

[merry ginkgo]

now i realize it fuckin does

only for clueless noobs

[analog mist]

Flintslate is a very good red tool imo

[quartz gulch]

Really stupid, double-standard logic.

[slender juniper]

Also injector band is usseles if you don't get hit so that is a minus

[keen solstice]

If you really want to sap the fun from the game
Use beast or architect

[still osprey]

Flintslate is awesome

[slender juniper]

But it litteraly fucking does

[stable mica]

witch and beast

[desert compass]

oh no i literally agree with u on injector band being good im just saying it is objective that getting better means you can avoid using it

[silk pumice]

agreed, but if i had to choose, i prefer fleabrew

[potent vessel]

have you not seen them beast users shred karmelita, that looks fun asf

[still osprey]

the more I play the game the more my opinion on Wanderer lowers

[minor plank]

Beast is fun but I don’t like architect

[fiery burrow]

we are not pretending beast and architect aren't fun bro 🙏

[minor plank]

The pogo is just hard to get used to

[slender juniper]

True band is better on those

[stable mica]

maybe Architect as an after thought

[potent vessel]

architect is random bullshit go, seems pretty fun to me

[fiery burrow]

Lets talk about reape that's an actually mid one

[analog mist]

lowk hunter crest does a very good job being balanced

[desert compass]

this fandom has the most cooked elitists ever oh my days 💔💔💔

[keen solstice]

You can just facetank all her attacks

[slender juniper]

Saying band doesn't rely on you getting hit is just a lie

[silk pumice]

no wonder you get hit a lot if you use beast to face tank

[potent vessel]

yea reaper is highkey boring

[quartz gulch]

That's why your logic sucks.

[minor plank]

That’s why I love it sm

[potent vessel]

only fun part about reaper is the dash attack

[steep jolt]

according to your logic,
plasmium phial: buns
warding bell: buns
multibinder: buns
fractured mask: buns
magma bell: buns
wreath of purity: buns
magnetite dice: buns

[stable mica]

only down sides fr

[keen solstice]

I mean, that's literally what beast is made for lol

[slender juniper]

What do you need to heal faster for?ONLY IF YOU GET HIT

[exotic cedar]

Hunter and witch are my goats

[merry ginkgo]

i let yall rate it

[slender juniper]

so it relies on you getting hit

[silk pumice]

its not

[still osprey]

I should play with witch again maybe

[analog mist]

plus the simple mechanic benefits players that GIT GOOD at the game

[still osprey]

I'm like, better at the game now

[minor plank]

Real, best 2 crests

[keen solstice]

Uh, it literally is?

[minor plank]

Real

[silk pumice]

beast is made for an aggressive playstyle

[stable mica]

nearly same loadout as mineOoO

[silk pumice]

you dont need to play it to facetank

[keen solstice]

And an aggressive playstyle includes facetanking

[exotic cedar]

WHAT the FUCK happened to my saves

[slender juniper]

I never said they were buns I said those were minus points

[merry ginkgo]

yo dm it

[potent vessel]

do you do trigonometry mid fight to use the conchcutter

[keen solstice]

Beast is literally by far the best facetanking crest

[analog mist]

thoughts on barbed bracelet

[merry ginkgo]

in staggers honestl

[keen solstice]

Because it's outright made for it

[merry ginkgo]

or curve sickles

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[desert compass]

with this logic u dont need to use any tools if you just get hit

[quartz gulch]

I know, but that doesn't make the tool worse. If skill made something better, logically you should also always overcharm and such. Which you absolutely shouldn't if you aren't a "pro" player. But that is what they are arguing.

[potent vessel]

ok guys its time to stop procrastinating steel soul

[silk pumice]

https://mega.nz/file/q7pAEQYR#p7bJf77ZLYRl60z5_GfMrGDoj_TPsGHxopHLOSa2stc
my radiant karmelita run with no tools or skills and 3rd tier needle

[keen forum]

lost lace? go find her?

[slender juniper]

False

[potent vessel]

imma just wing it and see how it goes

[stable mica]

idk but i use spool extender for no reason lmao(instead of volt...)

[keen forum]

ill see myself out

[steep jolt]

tf kinda scam download is this

[still osprey]

Curvesickle and Sawtooth Circlet both need to be nerfed

[slender juniper]

Have you never used offensive tools

[merry ginkgo]

na im fine with u dming it

[silk pumice]

go watch that and learn how you dont need to facetank to be aggressive

[analog mist]

I suck at the game so I use cogflies for free damage with wanderer crest
either that or flintslate

[steep jolt]

lost verdania? map it then

[slender juniper]

Sawtooth circlet,volt filament

[merry ginkgo]

my writin is kinda bad dont mind

[slender juniper]

Don't rely on you getting hit

[silk pumice]

its not, i just dont want to use google because then i give away personal info

[keen forum]

yeah

[silk pumice]

look it up if you want to check if the site is safe

[analog mist]

discord sucks btw

[slender juniper]

Also red tools are offensive asf

[merry ginkgo]

wdym

[silk pumice]

agreed, otherwise i wouldnt have to use things like that to show people

[steep jolt]

yall somehow made something worse then crestslop arguments: toolslop arguments

[desert compass]

yeah with ur logic thats the same as CROSS STITCH which requires u to get hit, does that MEAN its bad?

[slender juniper]

Spam shit and sin

[merry ginkgo]

i like to use em at the end of fight

[slender juniper]

Are we deadass IM CRINE

[desert compass]

IM BEING DEADASS BRO

[merry ginkgo]

the carried me in high halls gauntlent

[desert compass]

shut up with ur aave 😭

[steep jolt]

bro magnetite dice are buns cuz you shouldnt be getting hit anyway

[slender juniper]

Cross stitch is a parry it negates damage lmao

[merry ginkgo]

with em i got the gauntlent in 3rd try

[keen solstice]

Also for those saying sawtooth bad
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1487537402292470092/Beastspeedkill.mov?ex=69cccc69&is=69cb7ae9&hm=6bb057c4b3b95fbacecda257cd9c41a18c8bea74e7d46c0b0d4a0394e31d33b6&

[slender juniper]

These statements so trash hro

[merry ginkgo]

ye ik

[desert compass]

yeah ok and again with YOUR LOGIC, u need to GET HIT for it to work

[slender juniper]

But you don't get hit, it's a parry

[merry ginkgo]

ur fav silk skill

[steep jolt]

deadass had to react to his own message

[minor plank]

Ik sawtooth is good I just don’t like its gameplay

[slender juniper]

You don't get hit because you parry the hit

[analog mist]

with this logic the entire bind mechanic is useless cuz you need to get hit

[steep jolt]

fr thats hwat ive been saying

[desert compass]

[merry ginkgo]

technicly ye

[desert compass]

ok so then how do u activate the parry?

[slender juniper]

Cross stitch doesn't require you to take damage, injector band and multibinder do

[potent vessel]

Pharloom's Folly is lowkey way better than Elegy for Hallownest

[slender juniper]

By Parrying hits

[potent vessel]

conductor romino was cooking

[desert compass]

😭😭😭

[slender juniper]

To get hit you need to physically take danage

[desert compass]

honestly i commend you for ragebaiting this well

[slender juniper]

Parrying is not a form of getting hit

[analog mist]

what a shame we never find conductor romino

unlike monomon we don't even see a corpse or anything

[slender juniper]

@desert compass

[exotic cedar]

What the fuck is this

[desert compass]

yeah exactly and so if thats the case that would mean that injector band is GOOD no?

[quartz gulch]

Why would you need to parry if you don't get hit? The damage isn't necessarily superior to the point it is better. Neither does it work on projectiles.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand the double standard though.

[slender juniper]

Nîhaô

[slender juniper]

Cross stitch is strong asf

It's 3× needle damage + long iframes

[steep jolt]

arent all silk skills 3x needle damage

[minor plank]

Silkspear is honestly my favourite silk skill

[steep jolt]

respectable my fav is sharpdart

[analog mist]

makes me wonder what was GMS actually doing wrong before the citadel

[minor plank]

Respectable

[desert compass]

with ur logic u said injector band is ass because u need to get hit

and again with ur logic I said u need to get hit while using cross stitch, does that MAKE cross stitch ass?

Injector band is good because it benefits your healing, you wont be able to use cross stitch anyway if you were DEAD 😭

[slender juniper]

Yes but the fact it requires you to take damage takes minus points of

[merry ginkgo]

i think sharp dart better?...

[steep jolt]

fr

[desert compass]

okay so thats ALSO a minus in cross stitch because u need to take damage, using it then NEGATES that damage

[slender juniper]

I said you need to get DAMAGED to use injector band ,cross stitch negates damage please use your brain

[desert compass]

so again, your point doesnt stand

[minor plank]

I always use hunters with silkspear

[merry ginkgo]

chat i think sharp dart much better than cross

[slender juniper]

What the fuck

[quartz gulch]

-you don't need i-frames if you aren't in danger
-other silk skills also deal that amount of damage, wdym?
-i-frames counting as "not getting hit" is stupid; you don't get hit because you use it. Just like you don't get hit because IB speeds up your bind

[slender juniper]

But you must get hit to use injector band that's the problem

[analog mist]

okay but how does that make it bad
like you could say that with something like claw mirrors or memory crystal but injector band?
you need to be hit for it to work because it's a fucking healing tool
and yes you can bind with full health so it doesn't even make sense

[desert compass]

yeah that applies to cross stitch too lmao?

[minor plank]

Sharp darts pretty good, I’ve never really used cross personally

[slender juniper]

I never said it was bad

[merry ginkgo]

ye

[desert compass]

YOU DID EARLIER LMAO

[merry ginkgo]

sharp dart is more consistent

[slender juniper]

I said the damage requirement are minus points

[barren dew]

hi

[analog mist]

worse*

[exotic cedar]

Hello bon watermelon emoji

[slender juniper]

Please reread my messages

[steep jolt]

cross stitch is mid sharpdart is good fun tuff

[minor plank]

I do think silkspear is most consistent imo

[barren dew]

Hello Alpre Apple

[merry ginkgo]

ye

[desert compass]

I have been here the whole time I know what I saw bro

[timid sky]

Really short window

[analog mist]

I literally just said there is no damage requirement are you baiting rn

[merry ginkgo]

i like sharp dart more tho

[slender juniper]

You're starting to ragebait me ngl CROSS STITCH DOESN'T REQUIRE GETTING DAMAGED TO USE

[tight meadow]

Depressed

[steep jolt]

i was about to say pale nails until i remembered what pale nails are

[tight meadow]

Maybe plasmified trobbio?!?!

[minor plank]

Which is valid

[merry ginkgo]

ye u jsu get hit no dmg

[slender juniper]

I SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES

[desert compass]

IT DOES LMAO IF U DONT TAKE DANAGE THEN WHY BOTHER USING IT

[barren dew]

What if act 4 was real and everyone became green

[slender juniper]

Because it's the best silk skill

[minor plank]

It does require getting hit though

[desert compass]

you’ve said “get hit” and “get damaged” in the same context this is ur fault btw

[merry ginkgo]

ye but not damaged

[quartz gulch]

Did you even read?

[slender juniper]

What the fuck are you on

[merry ginkgo]

kic tell me ur loadout trus

ill show mine

[desert compass]

im not lying tho? u said in different circumstances that u need to get hit or get damaged for cross stitch to work

[analog mist]

excuse me sir please answer me

[slender juniper]

Yes I did

[slender juniper]

Huh

[desert compass]

ur saying im the dumb one while not understanding ur words contradict u

[merry ginkgo]

ts argument is so unecessary

[desert compass]

this is not a battle of intellect and ur STILL losing 😭

[quartz gulch]

Then explain why you couldn't simply dodge, instead of using your beloved cross-stitch?

[slender juniper]

@desert compass

[barren dew]

Yesterday's argument was somehow worst than this

[analog mist]

literally the only tools that "requires getting hit to work" are warding bell, Druids eyes and memory crystal

[merry ginkgo]

what was it

[slender juniper]

BECAUSE THE FUCKING DAMAGE

[steep jolt]

my loadout is hunters crest conchcutter cogfly pollip pouch injector band multi binder compass belt and dice

[slender juniper]

[minor plank]

Hunters crest with silkspear
Yellow tools are dice and belt
Red it silkshot and conchcutter
Blue is long claw and injector band

Can’t send pictures yet sorry

[merry ginkgo]

hey pretty good

ima send mine

[steep jolt]

holy peak

[barren dew]

People were genuinely fighting over if using red tools makes you a coward

[quartz gulch]

"The fucking damage" also works when using other Silk Skills.

[analog mist]

warding bell doesn't even damage you

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[barren dew]

This channel doesn't like ANYTHING

[steep jolt]

i love you as a friend

[slender juniper]

Yes but cross stitch is the best one

[merry ginkgo]

thanks

[quartz gulch]

Druids Eye too.

[merry ginkgo]

xd

[analog mist]

oh yeah ofc

[minor plank]

Great tools lowkey

[merry ginkgo]

thx

i was a hunters main but i switched cuz the slashes go brr

[steep jolt]

like a fourth of blue tools reqiure getting hit to activate

[merry ginkgo]

i still love hunters

[steep jolt]

like magma bell

injector band

[analog mist]

oh actually you're right

[steep jolt]

multibinder

[merry ginkgo]

its rlly good

[shy kettle]

i havent gotten the 3 hearts yet, do i do this

[steep jolt]

and magnetite dice

[toxic vigil]

trobbio quill :D

[minor plank]

I’ve never been a wanderer guy, it is a good crest though

[merry ginkgo]

man the fuh

[silk pumice]

yeah, nothing could go wrong

[desert compass]

“cross stitch does 3 units of damage” “injector band is bad because it heals”

you are comparing two different things and saying one is better than the other, while subsequently making a double standard that cross stitch gets a pass for being good because it “gives you I-frames and does damage” while injector band is ass because “u need to get hit for the tool that makes healing better to heal you”

[steep jolt]

bro is genuinely fighting sans in silksong ✌️

[merry ginkgo]

ye

[slender juniper]

I litteraly NEVER said both of those

[steep jolt]

or deltarune

ive seen the mod but idk what its based off of

[slender juniper]

[merry ginkgo]

injector is rlly good cuz u get faster healing and it allows more moments to heal

[steep jolt]

and ive only done normal route undertale not genocide of pacifist

[barren dew]

Can we delete this channel

[minor sparrow]

Not injector band. Beast, reaper, and witch all get bonus from their bund without it healing

[steep jolt]

beast makes the fury shorter

[desert compass]

yeah but its apparently bad because u “need to get hit” for the healing to work

[slender juniper]

Yes but it's usseles for hitless that's the fucking point I'm making

[analog mist]

but saying injector band has "minus points" cause it requires taking damage is absolute bullshit

[slender juniper]

I MEVER FUCKING SAID THAT

[desert compass]

you did not mention that earlier lmao

[quartz gulch]

Nope, because they all have advantages and disadavantages, and you are a dumbass that doesn't understand how that works. You use tools/silk skills/crests for certain situations and such, not because you believe them to be inherently better.
Besides the fact that injector band quite literally doesn't require being hit. If you want to activate Beast dps, Claw mirrors, Reaper reaping, Witch nuke, etc. it inherently helps you.

[steep jolt]

YOUW ERE TALKING ABOUT HITLSS

[analog mist]

fucking finally you say something that makes sense

[desert compass]

YOU WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT HITLESS LMAO

[steep jolt]

WELL YEAH NO SHIT CROSS STITCH IS BETTER THEN BINDING

[merry ginkgo]

who the fuc gets bosses hitless when they od the boss first time

[desert compass]

I WOULD HAVE AGREED EARLIER BUT NOOO 😭

YOU PUT THIS ON URSELF LMAO?

[slender juniper]

Literally everyone in the community agrees cross stitch is offensively the best

[steep jolt]

😭

[merry ginkgo]

u can do hitless on a 2nd run or oantheons but dude

[minor plank]

What I’m saying

[quartz gulch]

No, your point is that it is bad because it is useless for hitless. Which is terribly idiotic logic.

[steep jolt]

no

[desert compass]

not everyone this is still subjective lmao

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[analog mist]

it's like saying barbed bracelet is overpowered 😭

[timid plinth]

i dont quite like what is going on here

[minor sparrow]

Thank you sk discussion

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[minor sparrow]

Very cool

[slender juniper]

Stop putting words into my fucking mouth

[timid plinth]

we should be hating on reaper instead

[merry ginkgo]

dude thats the point of healing its cuz u get hit

[quartz gulch]

Literally one person (you) think you can speak for everyone. Besides the fact that I am also part of the community and this is a subjective statement.

[analog mist]

exactly

[worn reef]

Is the dark mirror worth getting?

[minor plank]

lol real

[slender juniper]

65% answer cross stitch

[merry ginkgo]

real

[analog mist]

well it's literally red clawmirror but better

[minor sparrow]

Bro suggested crest discourse, maybe you're worse

[steep jolt]

its both mirrors

[merry ginkgo]

ye its pretty fun to use

[worn reef]

but how does it stack up with other tools and such

[desert compass]

“guys injector band is bad, cross stitch better”

“bro thats wrong”

15 mins later
“guys injector band is bad, cross stitch is better, for hitless”

you put this on urself 😭😭😭

[fiery burrow]

Sharpdart is the best offensivd spell

[slender juniper]

I said injector band is mid because its worse if you know your heal timings

[fiery burrow]

why are y'all comparing a blue tool to a spell bruh

[slender juniper]

I never said it's bad thank you

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[slender juniper]

[desert compass]

is 65% out of 100% everyone

[slender juniper]

I NEVER EVEN SAID THAT WHAT THE FUCK

[analog mist]

multi binder triggers it twice
being hit with warding bell triggers a bigger explosion

[minor plank]

Yes you did 😭

[desert compass]

you did lmao

[worn reef]

ah I see thank you

[merry ginkgo]

fr

[fiery burrow]

true true

[slender juniper]

Re.read.my.me.sa.ges

[worn reef]

I guess I should get dark mirror before doing karm then

[fiery burrow]

With beast its really cool though because you can heal before the iframes from getting hit run out

[worn reef]

oooh

[merry ginkgo]

i rlly like the spin on the mirrors when healing

[desert compass]

you do know under the right implications mid means bad right?

[merry ginkgo]

rlly fun

[slender juniper]

No

[desert compass]

…then thats your fault

[slender juniper]

Mid means a 5 or 6/10

Mid NEVER meant bad

[merry ginkgo]

injectors isnt bad dude its rlly good for new people if they hav troubles in healing

[slender juniper]

Mid literally stands for middle ground

[timid sky]

Injector band is good for anyone

[fiery burrow]

I use mid to mean bad but yeah

[merry ginkgo]

and some bosses barely hav healiing moments so its good

[barren dew]

Genuinely what is happening

[toxic vigil]

Hello!

[worn reef]

Mid in slang means bad

[desert compass]

not for u atleast why do u think we argued back

[quartz gulch]

Cause the entire community had a vote? ALL of them?

[timid sky]

Unless you're playing radiant or something

[desert compass]

EXACTLY

[barren dew]

How did mid meant bad anyway doesn't it mean middle

[toxic vigil]

fun fact: you can skip the long trobbio phase if you stagger him at the righjt time

[merry ginkgo]

there arent pantheons in sk tho

[fiery burrow]

if they clarified what they meant there literally isn't an issue

[merry ginkgo]

hey thats cool

[subtle skiff]

mid in slang means bad because the internet has eliminated any and all nuance everythings either the best thing ever or shit

[worn reef]

not in gen z speak

[slender juniper]

Mid is a short term for middle

[fiery burrow]

hollow knight vs silksong reference

[timid sky]

Cross stitch is not great, the parry isn't long enough to matter most of the time

[slender juniper]

Which is a 5/10

[minor sparrow]

Is it also because you became a neutron star?

[barren dew]

Interesting

[toxic vigil]

crit

[desert compass]

but has slang and everyone else’s experience aligned with your statement? No.

[toxic vigil]

just.
time it right

[desert compass]

no they didnt, they only said it was hitless like 3 mins ago while dragging this convo for 20 mins

[barren dew]

Honestly this is the only word I actually don't see it working as a "this is bad" way

[slender juniper]

What ,I litteraly only said facts I didn't even say opinions

[timid sky]

"Youre bad at the game? Just do better"

[merry ginkgo]

cross stich is good but its no consistent tho

[timid sky]

Bro i know that

[merry ginkgo]

its not consistent enough like some other spells

[minor sparrow]

Wait is this an actual take?

[toxic vigil]

not what i meant

[slender juniper]

Injector band does rely on you getting hit unless your using beast

[merry ginkgo]

dude

[analog mist]

cross stitch is good it's just very hard to use

[fiery burrow]

i mean if you're doing hitless you casn slot on them negative modws and what you equp really stops mattering innit

[toxic vigil]

yeah but this just implies healing is bad

[leaden delta]

what

[merry ginkgo]

ye

[timid sky]

Or witch

[toxic vigil]

what is that dash attack

[leaden delta]

ion get it

[analog mist]

no but you said it gives minus points because apparently you expect everyone to do silksong hitless

[merry ginkgo]

the fuc

[timid sky]

Or any crest if you're using claw mirrors

[leaden delta]

dat shits frame 1 and usable in the sky and gives you half a second of iframes

[slender juniper]

But it's not, it's just less worth it for an experienced play but defensive tools are not bad

[desert compass]

…this whole statement also applies to cross stitch because if you say it negates damage and hits, if u say u dont get hit, WHAT HIT IS THERE TO NEGATE LMAO

[leaden delta]

AND does damage

[barren dew]

I still don't know how to do hitless unfortunately because no matter what I do I will do the most hilarious move that ends up killing me

[toxic vigil]

true but its still good

[desert compass]

…which in turn is a subjective statement because everyone PLAYS differently

[minor sparrow]

What? No it doesn't? Monor is talking about hitless

[silk pumice]

just parry the contact damage

[toxic vigil]

k

[slender juniper]

I meant it's not worth it if you're playing hitless or less hit

[desert compass]

again, I wouldnt even be a part of ts if he clarified it was hitless earlier lowkey

[slender juniper]

Cross stitch is the best skill you have for hitless

[desert compass]

yes true

[fiery burrow]

Everyone plays differently but there are more practical playstyles

[analog mist]

funny cuz absolutely no one here was talking about hitless until this guy brought it up

[desert compass]

yes I agree 😭

[toxic vigil]

healing is after you get hit
Cross stitch is before.. preventing the damage allowing you to be more aggressive

[slender juniper]

Thank you

[toxic vigil]

okay whatever

[merry ginkgo]

i wouldnt say so

[barren dew]

Someone out there would try to disagree with this

[merry ginkgo]

i think silk spear is

[analog mist]

also cross stitch is annoying cuz for fast bosses cuz it often misses

[toxic vigil]

this is a bit stupid like
just.
injector band is good
cross stitch is good

[desert compass]

best skill to counter damage for hitless yes, but not the best skill to dish out MORE damage for hitless

[silk pumice]

i disagree here

[merry ginkgo]

yeah

[opaque sigil]

If somebody is talking about something and your immediate response is about hitless you need to play other games asap

[merry ginkgo]

but cross stich can be a lil inconsistent

[silk pumice]

the best skill for hitless is the skill to do it hitless

[exotic cedar]

Clicking B while having the pantheon of pharloom mod will open the menu right

[fiery burrow]

what about mio hitless

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[silk pumice]

hey mosskin hru

[slender juniper]

Well the range on spear is nice but it's definetly not the best for damage output

[merry ginkgo]

i dunno

[slender juniper]

That'd be shartfart

[analog mist]

I can't get karmelita's song off my head

[merry ginkgo]

actaully ye

[quartz gulch]

@slender juniper
This is just wrong.
"Requires you to get hit to work"—you can bind without having been hit, for example to use:
-beast
-witch
-reaper
-clawmirror
-stopping maggot effect
-evading damage with Warding Bell

"Easy to replace"—With what? Do you assume that I want something else and use it as a crutch? I like the fast healing, that is all.

"Useless for hitless"—Well no shit. But that isn't how rating a tool works. Besides the fact that it isn't (see point 1).

"Know your timing"—IB opens up new opportunities for healing, when it usually shouldn't be possible. These opportunities also require timing.

"Cross-Stitch is better"—this can't be compared, because they aren't even the same category. Cross-Stitch doesn't activate things mentioned in point 1 either. Cross-Stitch is also unnecessary if you correctly dodge. It isn't useless btw, I said unnecessary. Other silk skills exist too, some of which may be better depending on the situation.

[timid sky]

shart dart

[desert compass]

yeah i agree on this!

[merry ginkgo]

i agree on that

[desert compass]

im sorry to put this on u but the argument lowkey ended

[steep jolt]

best skill for hitless is the skill to not get hit

[desert compass]

😭😭😭

[timid sky]

Mio is impossible hitless

[analog mist]

someone already said that yeah

[steep jolt]

why does this juan guy get credit for making karmelita

[toxic vigil]

sharp dart is honestly worse than cross stitch
like the 4 more dmg with filament is not that good

[fiery burrow]

hitless bosses though mmm

[quartz gulch]

I don't care, they pissed me off with their double standards.

[opaque sigil]

It’s literally an encouraged play style

[toxic vigil]

without filament its 9 more

[timid sky]

Still impossible

[steep jolt]

its funny

[silk pumice]

how do you have fun with that

[slender juniper]

True I agree with all of these That's why I said injector band relies on you getting hit unless you're using beast or witch,but injector is replacable if you can heal without it

[steep jolt]

also act 1 fay

[silk pumice]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[slender juniper]

And mid doesn't mean bad

[quartz gulch]

Anything is inherently replacable, that's the point of using tools.

[steep jolt]

ok autistic cheese

OMG SEA OF SORROW JUST RELEASED

[quartz gulch]

They don't provide primary options of damage.

[desert compass]

yeah me too lowkey

[slender juniper]

Yes but injector band is one of the most replacehle tools when you learn your timings

You can out on like circlet or volt filament instead

[merry ginkgo]

there rlly isnt any pantheons rn

[quartz gulch]

So you didn't read what I said?

[slender juniper]

Warding bell is the replace tool rn

[silk monolith]

im on a generational run rn hope ion die

[fiery burrow]

(Mio final boss spoilers) errr explain this liberal

[slender juniper]

No I did,

But injector band you can but everything else on if you can heal without it

[merry ginkgo]

i mean i rlly dont kno whow to heal on skarrsinger tho without inject

[desert compass]

wait ur actually right on this one, witch crest bind does so much damage compared to needle attacks and its dps overall is boosted by the injector band, which doesnt need you to get hit to bind the witch

[slender juniper]

Unless you're using witch or beast

[opaque sigil]

The auraless shairpin spam vs the joy of a firefly build

[toxic vigil]

i mean its fun to quick kill but i still play normally often

[fiery burrow]

Hold Q to win simulator

[slender juniper]

Which are the two exceptions

[desert compass]

and considering cross stitch and injector band are situational even in hitless, that means both are good.

[timid sky]

Where the hell are your heart crystals
Is there seriously another heart crystal loss, because i have 4 blocked out rn

[fiery burrow]

or whatever your glide button is idk I set it to Q

[desert compass]

LMAOOOOO

[quartz gulch]

Then you clearly missed my:
"Know your timing"—IB opens up new opportunities for healing, when it usually shouldn't be possible. These opportunities also require timing.

you can bind without having been hit, for example to use:
-beast
-witch
-reaper
-clawmirror
-stopping maggot effect
-evading damage with Warding Bell

[opaque sigil]

I play on controller it cost me years of using that finger

[fiery burrow]

||I got the negative mod that removes all your protective coats and yeah there are a lot of tremors||

[slender juniper]

And YOU didn't read when I said that If you know when to heal without injector band you don't need it and can put on something else

Stop being entitled

[desert compass]

gonna boost this by saying the maggot thing applies to hitless if ur doing groal and u dont have wreath of purity!!!

[timid plinth]

how is this still going

[quartz gulch]

Knowing when to heal vs. actually opening new opportunities of healing/using said tools and binds.

[opaque sigil]

Unrelease silksong

[quartz gulch]

Gotta go now.

[desert compass]

“If you know when to heal” so the knowledge of skill automatically means you can disregard what is essentially either a life-saver or dps booster for certain cases? … this also applies to cross stitch then lmao

[slender juniper]

Well yes if you don't get hit often and know you heal timings without band you can but more offensive tools instead

[desert compass]

yeah and thats true, but that doesnt make it mid, that just means you have a different playstyle.

[slender juniper]

Actually silksong is mid anyways

Silksong is trash why are we arguing

[desert compass]

so all in all I do support the cross stitch for hitless

[teal ridge]

throw

[desert compass]

you lowkey should have clarified earlier tho

but my apologies for dragging ts out

[timid sky]

ow

[desert compass]

HEY THERES PEOPLE HERE

[fiery burrow]

How could you say this about my hidden indie gem

[desert compass]

zero aim wtf…

[exotic cedar]

Yeah it's really hidden

[fiery burrow]

don't let the normies find silksong‼️

[exotic cedar]

Where is it i cannot see it

[orchid spruce]

Silksong being a 6.5/10 is no longer a controversial opinion!??

[slender juniper]

Silksong is a trash game:
1(female protagonist
2) unbalanced game
3)woke
4)gay bugs

[fiery burrow]

mio should be gatekept too tbh

[desert compass]

😭😭😭

[slender juniper]

Don't play silksong it's gay propaganda

[fiery burrow]

No more Mio glaze guys

[teal ridge]

bugslop

[steep jolt]

analyzing ❌
anal lice swing ✅

[desert compass]

KEEP SILKSONG NICHE BECAUSE ITS BUNS DONT LET BUNS BE MAINSTREAM

[desert compass]

brother

[timid sky]

I'm kinda mixed on mio ngl

[desert compass]

shut the fuck up 😭

[fiery burrow]

Idk its a solid 7

[steep jolt]

its main stream

[fiery burrow]

Could be more depending on the day

[orchid spruce]

[merry ginkgo]

its chill now right?

[orchid spruce]

one-third of the game being total ass to play is a lot of deducted points

[fiery burrow]

my leg feels frostbit man

[desert compass]

yes!

[merry ginkgo]

yay

now i ask a question

do i do a tool tierlist and then send it

[onyx python]

flying enemies make me want to melt my own bones and eat them

[desert compass]

NO

[slender juniper]

Asmongold hasn't touched silkslop because the thought of playing as a woman is too scary

[steep jolt]

asreil

[desert compass]

WE ARE NOT STARTING TOOL DEBATE AGAIN (send it im curious)

[steep jolt]

asgore is mad chill why did i have to kill him

[merry ginkgo]

silksong isnt bad

[timid sky]

The atmosphere, art and music are great but gameplay feels unnecessarily hard, one of the reasons being ||you don't have a ground dash for so long, like until midgame, even then not everyone is gonna find out you can dodge+stride for boost||

[desert compass]

the concept of hornet liking lace… LESBIANISM??? NOT IN MY CHUD SOCIETY - asmonslop, probably

[steep jolt]

did you guys know quick sling existed or is it just be being stupid (i have over 100 hours on my act 3 save)

[timid plinth]

i used quick sling before

[desert compass]

I HAVE 100 HOURS EXACTLY ON MY ACT 3 SAVE TOO 😭😭😭

[timid sky]

Why is summoned saviour still f, he belongs there

[timid plinth]

with cogflies

[fiery burrow]

I googled quicksling to get 100% tbh

[merry ginkgo]

ts is fire

[steep jolt]

i never knew quicksling existed until act 5

[undone gate]

I found it accidentally

[fiery burrow]

||Strider isn't really a dodge anyways||

||Survivability comes from dodge/hairpin the first one you get fairly early although its not communicated that it gives iframes afaik||

[timid sky]

No i mean like ||if you dodge while striding it gives you momentum||

[fiery burrow]

Yeah but I don't think that's really practical in combat

Well at least for me idk I never really used it like that

[timid sky]

That's pretty much the only thing close to a dash in this game and it's still not that useful

[orchid spruce]

||Expecting iframes from hairpin is like expecting iframes from nine sols bow ||

[merry ginkgo]

a fight again...

[orchid spruce]

||Did you know nine sols bow gives iframes ||

[desert compass]

ignore them

[merry ginkgo]

what me?

[fiery burrow]

I do think ||hairpin|| is the funnest way to evade attacks

[slender juniper]

It's more like a sprint

[timid sky]

We aren't fighting

[desert compass]

yes ignore them 😭😭

[merry ginkgo]

okay tahnsk

[timid sky]

Atleast i don't think we are

[fiery burrow]

Yea bro I'm so mad bro grrr

[undone gate]

I know that

[merry ginkgo]

andrew want me to dm u a tool tierlist in sk

[desert compass]

YES

[merry ginkgo]

kay

hold on

[fiery burrow]

||Mostly cuz of energy management and sometimes you'll need to make use of the grapple points in a boss arena which is fun||

||Dodge is definitely the best way though and makes the game substantially easier||

[toxic vigil]

does anyone know why sometimes only 1 moss mother will spawn at a time

[timid sky]

She literally summons the other one

[orchid spruce]

the second one spawns later

[timid sky]

Not that easy

[desert compass]

its canon

[toxic vigil]

yeah but its random when

[fiery burrow]

Yeah I still struggled a fair amount

[undone gate]

I think it depends on hp

[timid sky]

I struggled and still struggle way too much

[odd bridge]

It would be cool if there was another green prince fight but now instead of moving randomly he would always move towards hornet

[worn reef]

do you guys use pale nails at all?

[desert compass]

Yes

[spark anchor]

Once the first mother hits around 295 hp, the next ceiling bash attack will spawn the other moss mother

[timid sky]

There is yet to be a boss i have beaten first try, most bosses have taken like over 5

[worn reef]

I'm wondering what teir Pale Nales is considered

[desert compass]

i like the damage output more than rune rage and sharpdart against like exploration mobs etc

[undone gate]

What was the boss you took least tries in

[desert compass]

and if I have a lot of silk in fights i use it

[slender juniper]

This boss fight Is yuri

The moss mothers boss fight is just Yuri

[worn reef]

more than the silk shot as well?

[timid sky]

In mio minimum was ||lombre or whatever they called the fertilizer drill||, 2 tries

[desert compass]

silkshot the tool?

[worn reef]

the first silk skill

[slender juniper]

I got to that fucker early took me way too long

[undone gate]

Pale Nails is better than Silk Spear

[slender juniper]

I also only got the first damage upgrade and then missed all others Lmao

[worn reef]

Ah

[slender juniper]

Most of the time yeah

[worn reef]

I guess I should use it more often then

[desert compass]

so same damage but pale nails tracks

[slender juniper]

Nothing beats shartfart 💔

[timid sky]

Well there's just 1 early game damage upgrade, afaik everything else is after ||strider||

[desert compass]

so even if u use it randomly anywhere it will dish out damage

[timid sky]

I've gotten to ||vaults and saved mel|| and only found 2 damage upgrades so far

[worn reef]

more than thread storm too?

better?

[timid sky]

Like lowkey the damage upgrades feel really sparse in this game

[desert compass]

let me check

[minor sparrow]

Aren't all moss mothers yuri?

The island of lesbos but like if it was a species

[desert compass]

because pale nails in total does 5 more damage than silkspear if u have volt filament on both

[worn reef]

ohh

[undone gate]

I thought Pale Nails did 5 less damage if all 3 nails hit the same opponent

[desert compass]

I think depends on playstyle ngl

[merry ginkgo]

andrew

[desert compass]

[merry ginkgo]

les go in a call and i show my screen no mics tho

[desert compass]

yes

[merry ginkgo]

i made it a bit big to fill in one screeny

[desert compass]

⁉️⁉️⁉️ cant u just send me in ss or do u want me to

ahhh ok then

[undone gate]

Pale Nails has 1 tick of 5 damage per enemy it hits while Silkspear always has 2 ticks of 5 damage

[desert compass]

oh wait shit ur right

5 less damage in bossfights

[undone gate]

The convenience still makes it better

[desert compass]

this is true

its consistent

[still osprey]

PANTHEON OF PHARLOOM FIRST TRY LOL GG 🔥

[toxic vigil]

nice!

[still osprey]

I literally just decided I'd hop on for fun and see how far I can make it cuz I wanted to play silksong but didn't want to start a new playthrough to not burn myself out

I didn't actually plan on beating it 😭

Shoutout to Pinstress she got me down to 2 HP but I'm just built different

[rancid stag]

is it weird when i did max darkness i could get to 2nd phase on raging chonchfly but when i used my usual brightness i couldn't even get to the 2nd one
yes i've beaten the game now

[exotic cedar]

Free green prince in sinners road

Talk with him in choral chambers, on the left side and then he moves to cogwork core

Talk with green prince in cogwork core, near the dancer area

And then verdania will open on the right side of greymoor in act 3

[minor sparrow]

Mods should call people to dms like they do to kids to a principles office

[rocky jolt]

THE CITADEL. They only think about Silk, they're CORRUPT.

[exotic cedar]

This game feels so weird now

[fallen spoke]

hi guys

[fallen spoke]

how?

[bitter briar]

Second Caine crashout reference I’ve seen in two servers

[shy kettle]

😰

[bitter briar]

Wait I need this mod

What is it

[shy kettle]

not out yet

[bitter briar]

Aw

[paper fiber]

i could do that.

[fallen spoke]

oh look its hunthussle

[paper fiber]

we should instead be celebrating sugeetam guys

❤️

[exotic cedar]

Haven't played in a while

[paper fiber]

#SugeetamDownfall

[mortal urchin]

Is the pantheon out for silk song yet

[paper fiber]

nah.

the silksong is out for pantheon 💀

[mortal urchin]

Ok

Huh

[tidal hearth]

Blud you havent even done pantheons in hk 💀

[mortal urchin]

I have

[paper fiber]

@ are gabsiaoinn

[mortal urchin]

Just not the fourth or 5 one

[rotund gate]

why is the roaring knight so small lmao

[neat remnant]

just play the pantheon mod

alternatively wait for 2 years, or diy

[mortal urchin]

Ok

[shy kettle]

they're bigger than hornet

[rotund gate]

when

[neat remnant]

oh hi hunt

[neat remnant]

oh WHAT THE FUCK

[plucky stag]

good thing you did it today instead of tomorrow

because i would have dismissed it as an april fool's joke otherwise