sk-discussion

[silk monolith]

fastest i ever got 100% was 15 hours shit was magical

[woeful trail]

i have like 100 hours on my first save so im not a good gauge LOL. I think like 70 too but I was also taking my time

[restive sapphire]

I wish they added a hard mode for silk song tbh. Cuz the increase of difficulty from hk to silksong is much less than my increase in skill from first playthroufh of hk to first playthrough of silksong

[odd plover]

I suck so bad I took 115 hr on my first save file 😵‍💫

[restive sapphire]

My first hk file took me 80 hours to 112%

[distant prawn]

quit sk bc of p[c

fprced to

[woeful trail]

is steel soul not good enough for u 😢

[restive sapphire]

I wouldnt count steel soul mode as a hard mode per se. Its not harder just more tedious as you have to be more careful. Everything is still the same difficulty

[woeful trail]

i suppooooooooooose

[silk monolith]

im js playing nine sols now

[woeful trail]

FRRR i played ns in prep for silksong lol

im like 1 trophy away from plat, just need to go back to it

[restive sapphire]

They should add a difficulty system that changes the damage or heal time or something with an easy normal and hard mode that way everyone would be happy

[silk monolith]

lmao what i feel they very different

[distant prawn]

i disagree

[exotic cedar]

Based.

[restive sapphire]

Ooh which one are ya missin

[silk monolith]

no its fine the way it is

js add mods if you want that

[distant prawn]

true

[odd plover]

How boring your life must be to be "humble" bragging on Discord

[graceful cairn]

mid sols 😂

[woeful trail]

just beating it on normal difficulty, my first run and all the achievements i got were on assisted LOL

[distant prawn]

do self bindings like godhome

like no getting masks

[woeful trail]

truuuuue

[distant prawn]

1 upgrade only

[restive sapphire]

Bruh no im not trynna brag im just saying the skill range of their audience is really wide so some more customizability would be nice yk

[restive sapphire]

Theres an assisted mode??

[woeful trail]

^^^ also something i like about ninesols, the ability to bring damage given/recieved up and down

[subtle skiff]

huh, how is advocating for easier accessibility humble bragging lol

[restive sapphire]

Whats this nine souls game you speak of

[woeful trail]

another metroidvania, very good. if you think silksong is too easy i def recommend it

[restive sapphire]

Well not only easier but also harder, i guess that can be interpreted as humble bragging

[silk monolith]

js saying whatever

[patent heath]

Humble bragging is when I wish the game had difficulty settings.

[silk monolith]

lmao dont say anything im still maybe not even halfway through

[restive sapphire]

Sick, dya think you could give me a general premise of it without too mjch spoiling ?

[exotic cedar]

A game better than silksong

[dense mist]

i started up a save file where i played safe so that i could practice for steel soul

[patent heath]

The only game worse than SS is HK.
So, doesn't narrow it down.

[dense mist]

now im at 93% 0 deaths

😭😭😭

[restive sapphire]

Yo what silksong is fr my favorite sort of story oriented game (my favorite just any game is probably gd or Minecraft) so the bar is pre high

[woeful trail]

ya! i can dm u

[exotic cedar]

Nine sols ending got me teared up

[restive sapphire]

Ty

[silk monolith]

i beat the woman with the bell

how far into the story is that

[restive sapphire]

Widow? Silksong reference?

[exotic cedar]

Did you fight her as your first boss?

[silk monolith]

no first one was big boy cat

didnt fight him, js his minion

idk anyones names lmao dont ask

[exotic cedar]

The names were confusing to me at first too lol

But you are still at the start

[silk monolith]

🥀

i beat the old mech guy too

and then had to break out of prison

[exotic cedar]

Oh

That's not the start, you progressed well

[silk monolith]

got the crimson parry thing

im js struggling with the timing of that

[idle lava]

wha cartoon are you from again

[silk monolith]

bojack horseman

[timid sky]

Why does mio crash on startup so often

Does anyone else have this issue

[exotic cedar]

I did at first, but i coudlnt open it so i refunded it

[kind tide]

erm, FELLAS?

[exotic cedar]

Hi

[sharp tundra]

You should buy it for me trust

[shadow dome]

voltnest is the worst shit ever

[strange knot]

Voltnest is literally cool Tfym?

I just wish it was a real area and not just a subarea

[earnest drift]

voltnest is better than deepnest

[shadow dome]

i mean aesthetically its pretty neat its the fact that i lost 2 coccoons in it that pmos

and i thought wisp thicket had the biggest difficulty to area size ratio

[odd plover]

nah thats putrified ducts me thinks

[exotic cedar]

No.

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/nahhhh-gif-13988430770100568872

[fleet temple]

yeah
just like coral tower

[shadow dome]

putrified ducts is evil asf

at least it has fleatopia

[exotic dome]

putrified fucks shouldnt exist

[odd plover]

The only reason putrfied ducts isn't more hated than Bilewater is how small it is so you spend very little time there.

[earnest drift]

deepnest has no platforming and is endless tunnels with fatass arachnids blocking the way because they get stuck in the tight corridors

voltnest has platforming with sick af hazards

both have shitty bosses

[shadow dome]

yea i agree, the entire room between fleatopia and the vertical tunnel is one of the most brutal areas in the game and if it had more rooms of that size i could definitely see people cutting bwater more slack

those huge guys are genuinely hell to deal with

[cerulean sable]

Silk Sells... But Who's Binding?

[shadow dome]

none so bile

[exotic cedar]

They just look cool, but very annoying to me

[civic island]

Uhhh

Its really not that hard

[exotic cedar]

Deepnest looks blocky, but the atmosphere is really well

[cerulean sable]

I dint mind VN cuz its a short area

[exotic cedar]

Its a creepy area

[shadow dome]

i dont see many people good at the game hating on deepnest

[civic island]

What is that

[shadow dome]

you can say the same abt bilewater really

[exotic cedar]

Volt nest

[civic island]

Ah alr

[earnest drift]

that’s true

[civic island]

I just sprint and pray lowk

[exotic cedar]

The spiders made me feel uncomfy

[earnest drift]

the area with the best atmosphere is definitely exhaust organ because all the smog is good for your lungs

[civic island]

Exhaust organ is cool facs

[wicked mica]

hello i just started silksong

[slim thorn]

Agreed but we are on that side of the spectrum
It is very difficult to manysome

[civic island]

I like the citadel cuz of the music

[wicked mica]

after doing everything in hk

[graceful cairn]

its a fine area gameplay wise I just hate bugs

[civic island]

Balright

Its just long and it can get exhaustinh

[graceful cairn]

exhaust organ

[exotic cedar]

Be careful in this channel, you may get spoiled

[shadow dome]

maybe hot take but i wish there was more to whiteward

[exotic cedar]

True

[civic island]

Funny af

[cerulean sable]

I was watching a streamers 40h 100% playback playthrough, and that exact moment he realized and shouted "Wait a minute... thats not steam.... ITS EXHAUST" is still my fav stream highlight from his series

[civic island]

Its really just a filler

[shadow dome]

its already creepy as hell but once u beat the unravelled and finish balm for the wounded theres not much more to it

[civic island]

Like wisp thicket

[cerulean sable]

I like using WW as a shortcut to get Harpoon asap

By dropping through the crematorium

[fleet temple]

we were robbed

[wicked mica]

what is this binding thing? hornet doesnt use soul like the knight?

[fleet temple]

It's like binding but cooler

[cerulean sable]

Its a 1 for 3 heal

[shadow dome]

she uses silk

[cerulean sable]

And you can do it midair

[wicked mica]

oh

this new pogo might be intresting

[cerulean sable]

I like the diagonal and i refuse otherwise

[graceful cairn]

its awesome

[wicked mica]

bruh she make so much sound tho

[cerulean sable]

Also fyi this is a spoiler zone

[wicked mica]

i think do have a mind to think

[wicked mica]

oh so should head to sk help

[fleet temple]

Agreed
it takes some getting used to the first time but it's super satisfying

[graceful cairn]

the final boss of silksong is the pale king fr

[harsh yarrow]

if its annoying you can turn it off

[cerulean sable]

You can lower her voice by going to audio and turning off hero voice if it annoys you

[exotic cedar]

Its actually me

[harsh yarrow]

I've finished the tilemapping of the Cloverfileds

[cerulean sable]

I dont wsnt to cuz i wanna hear FREN

[harsh yarrow]

and by finished, theres 2 rooms that I havent it

[cerulean sable]

Ye

[cerulean sable]

I actually avoided other crest cuz of it

I hope SoS crest is diagonal ngl

[fleet temple]

yeah
I hope I enjoy the moveset

[cerulean sable]

And buff reaper while theyre at it

[graceful cairn]

i hope sos doesnt have a crest just to piss you off

[harsh yarrow]

what the fuck am I saying
I've gotten the tilemap (collisions) of the Cloverfields (Aspids, precursor to Verdania and the Wormways) done, outside of two rooms
A large lake room at the top of the area
and Grovehome, palace of the Green Princes and home of what is now Karn's Weaver Spire

[fleet temple]

I can't wait for SoS to rekindle my trauma of the loss of coral gorge

[shadow dome]

putrified ducts flooding incident

[earnest drift]

I’m glad coral gorge was removed

[exotic cedar]

Coral gorge should have been a memory area

[graceful cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-demon-hunters-kpop-demon-hunters-we-are-going-to-have-to-kill-you-we-are-going-to-have-to-kill-you-kpdh-rumi-and-zoey-gif-10377100131532296642

[exotic cedar]

Blasted steps and sands of karak is cool
but there's no exploring in act 3, a explorable memory area in act 3 would be fire

[harsh yarrow]

the trouble is that they already reused what they made for the gorge once, and they didnt want to rehash it

[earnest drift]

if coral gorge was included it would’ve oversaturated the game with irrelevant spectacle on the side and made the story unnecessarily dragged out

[harsh yarrow]

eh

It was cool

[earnest drift]

having four fun gauntlets and a fun boss is better

[wicked mica]

ok i heard first boss of sk is hardest. i just first tried. i might be goated

[harsh yarrow]

lol

[earnest drift]

coral gorge doesn’t even look that good

[fleet temple]

imo they should've saved coral gorge and verdania for dlc

[harsh yarrow]

now that is just false

[shadow dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[graceful cairn]

"if the game had more content it would actually dampen the experie-" SHUT UP LET US HAVE FUN

[shadow dome]

just u wait

[exotic cedar]

Having a whole explorable area with four fun gauntlets and a mid boss would been better

[earnest drift]

the hardest boss is lost lace

[shy kettle]

is there a boss fight ahead?

[fleet temple]

like I love act 3 but the way they handled the old areas makes it feel rushed
which like I get why and I'm glad they did add them since the alternative was cutting it entirely
but it still kinda sucks
especially since so much of it is in the final trailer

[earnest drift]

kill your darlings

how many of you liked lost verdania

[harsh yarrow]

Team Cherry did

[graceful cairn]

THAT DOESNT APPLY FOR A GAME YOU SILLY IDIOT

MORE CONTENT IS BETTER I LOVE CONTENT

[exotic cedar]

Its fine, looks beatiful
But has lame enemies and bosses

[harsh yarrow]

I however, dont care for good game design overly much, soooo

[earnest drift]

and would you want a repeat of that for coral gorge

[fleet temple]

I mean that's what mods are for
bringing us what we didn't get

[harsh yarrow]

Coral Gorge is coming back for SIlksoul eventually™

[shadow dome]

do u think hk would have been better if white palace wasnt a thing and u could just find the other half of kingsoul in kingdoms edge or some shit

[exotic cedar]

It doesn't have to be the same thing

[earnest drift]

no because white palace wasn’t cut

[shadow dome]

ok fair

[earnest drift]

and unlike coral gorge white palace is plot relevant

[fleet temple]

How dead will you be by the time you finish that?

[graceful cairn]

like im a writer i understand bloat in a story but silksong isnt a story and its not bloated

[harsh yarrow]

Dunno

But the tilemaps for the Cloverfields is mostly done, so hopefully not very dead..?

[earnest drift]

silksong is too a story

[fleet temple]

forgive me for wanting explorable areas in my metroidvania

[exotic cedar]

A beatiful looking memory area with fun gauntlets new good karak enemies would be good

[earnest drift]

a very good story it’s perfect

[graceful cairn]

it HAS a story but its a game

its more about gameplay than story

[harsh yarrow]

The Coral Gorge as an area had alot to offer in its 2021 (full) extent

It wasnt only the bright red like you see in the 2019 trailer

[earnest drift]

does silksong have more areas than hollow knight

[graceful cairn]

you could remove the wormways because they don't really add anything to the main plot then

[exotic cedar]

Remove ducts too

[graceful cairn]

you could remove bilewater and it wouldnt impact the main story

[odd plover]

wormways just serves to make act 1 a little less linear

[earnest drift]

so the reason silksong’s exploration is worse is because of the way it’s structured, and act 3 doesn’t add enough areas

[twin summit]

how you in sea of sorrow

[earnest drift]

is that correct

[fleet temple]

only think I dislike is how much of verdania and coral tower were in the trailer
made us think there was more to it

[exotic cedar]

Wouldnt call it worse, but act 3 exploration is just bad

[earnest drift]

you don’t think it’s worse than hollow knight?

[fleet temple]

like pharloom and bay and steel clan are getting saved for fully fleshed appearances in dlcs
they should've done that with gorge and verdania
but know we won't get that because of act 3

[harsh yarrow]

It was two areas, the Coral River and the Coral Steps
The coral steps were more like (shocker) the Blasted Steps, being more muted deeper blues, the masonry that denotes the Citadel, and their gilded ascetics, covered in a layer of the red corals
The coral river is where you'd get into the more shocking bright reds

[graceful cairn]

general exploration in silksong i find worse than hollow knight

[earnest drift]

if sea of sorrow becomes act 3 exclusive would that make act 3’s exploration better

[shadow dome]

in hollow knight you dont get to explore hallownest after u beat thk, just what it was like previous to beating it

[exotic cedar]

Havent played both games in a while so idk how to compare

But why do you always compare?

[harsh yarrow]

Oh and Voltnest- it was an actual area on the map

connected the Coral Tower and Pinstress's hut, basically

[earnest drift]

because I’m stuck in the mindset that always needs to compare silksong and hollow knight and conclude that silksong is better

[graceful cairn]

because comparison is the thief of joy and hes a miserable person

[exotic dome]

just got to act 3, is there any areas i missed

[earnest drift]

what do you do to improve exploration
do you just add more areas

[graceful cairn]

i love the idea of there just being a huge area like the blight lmao

[exotic cedar]

Maybe more areas behind silksoar

[earnest drift]

how many are there

[shadow dome]

make the areas more significant and enriching the worldbuilding

[harsh yarrow]

actual areas?

[exotic cedar]

Uhhh... 1? And thats extended far fields

[earnest drift]

brightvein, far fields

[harsh yarrow]

1

Brightvein is a subarea, and is one room
the only proper exploration is the upper/right sid Far Fields

[exotic cedar]

Silksoar is a nice new ability but its underused in the game

[shadow dome]

take weavers den in deepnest for example, its only there for you to get a charm, but the implication of that one weaver spying on you and the hidden seal of binding add so much to the world

[graceful cairn]

hopefully itll be used more in sos!!!

[shadow dome]

and its a really tiny area

[earnest drift]

so if sea of sorrow is made to be act 3 exclusive, will that make act 3 better

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[exotic dome]

and maybe don't lock act 3 behind a quest where you have to buy every map (trail's end) so there is more content left for act 3

[harsh yarrow]

remains to be seen

if I had to guess- most of Sea of Sorrow is Act 2 gated

Because most of Sea of Sorrow was made in 2021/2022

[exotic cedar]

It being act 2 after faydown cloak makes sense but i wish it's act 3

[graceful cairn]

literally not a possible question to answer

[harsh yarrow]

The lab probably went from a Faydown Cloak gate to a Silksoar Gate

[graceful cairn]

i hope its all act 1 just to spite you

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-taiga-aisaka-toradora-sad-girl-sad-girl-emotional-alone-gif-6119726276555151088

[fleet temple]

I kinda do and don't want it to be act 3

[harsh yarrow]

Like Team Cherry did to the Shamans Crest (originally the Weaver Crest), Karm, Crust King Khann, Nyleth and Seth, and probably the Green Prince

[fleet temple]

I don't wanted a voided bay I wanna see it be normal

[exotic dome]

im guessing some parts will be act 3 exclusive that only accessible with silksoar, judging by the recent silksoar patch

[exotic cedar]

Maybe pharloom bay is act 2 but the lifeblood spire is act 3

[earnest drift]

what about land of storms

[graceful cairn]

thatd make the most sense

[exotic cedar]

Would that even be added

[fleet temple]

plus I don't wanna have to do act 3 everytime on a new playthrough to experience the dlc

[exotic cedar]

Land of storm is cool but idk what they would add there

[fleet temple]

because even if it's good I don't think it could really save act 3

[graceful cairn]

thatd be like the definition of useless bloat areas right

[harsh yarrow]

The Land of Storms being anywhere near SoS would be very very stupid

Because that just means the Godseakers missed the very alive very powerful god in their backyard.

[exotic cedar]

Someone giving us a quest to go to the lifeblood spire via a submarine sounds familiar

[graceful cairn]

ugh this lore is so inconsistent how come pharloom bay just appears one day and nobody says anything

[harsh yarrow]

only if you ignore how much its referenced in the game already, yes.

[earnest drift]

are patches canon to silksong
like does the universe canonically change during patches

[fleet temple]

I feel the same way with people saying they want the blackwyrm in the dlc

[lavish apex]

i prefer hk's exploration because i think the nonlinearity is done really well and it feels more consistently rewarding, though that's because of other gameplay systems mostly

[graceful cairn]

people obsessing over this "blackwyrm" that we know absolutely nothing about is hilarious to me

who says the blackwyrm is even like a wyrm at all

[cedar mesa]

what do you guys think the next dlc after sea of sorrow will be

[graceful cairn]

echoes of wisdom

[harsh yarrow]

Probably smaller than Sea of Sorrow

[exotic cedar]

The city of steel 😱

[harsh yarrow]

Sea of Sorrow seems to mostly be ideas they decided to put off from the full release in 2023 or 2024

[orchid spruce]

City of Steel is confirmed

[shadow dome]

the elusive act 4

[lavish apex]

like hk puts treats everywhere in the form of relics and has more intuitive/immediate positive feedback for collecting equippables even if you don't want to use them for their own sake because of salubra's shop

[harsh yarrow]

...confirmed to exist, confirmed to be in silksong? far, far from it

[wicked mica]

is this the myla of silksong

[earnest drift]

my headcanon is that the blackwyrm wasn’t a deadly beast but instead was a political rival to the pale king who wanted Hallownest to be united under a democracy rather than a monarchy

[fleet temple]

yep
TC: we have this entirely new kingdom and land filled with tons of new characters, lore, and worldbuilding
Fans: idc what about this one thing referenced in an obscure throwaway hunters journal text in the first game

[graceful cairn]

my headcanon is that he just isnt real and is actually just a location

[cedar mesa]

maybe a pantheon for pharloom, we did get to see a glimpse of mount fay in the godseeker dlc hollow knight

that will probably be last though

[fleet temple]

should've done that with gorge

[earnest drift]

can we agree that esmy deserved to die

[exotic dome]

who the fuck is esmy

[graceful cairn]

what if sos doesnt have any of the cut content and its all new stuff and we were just insane the whole time

[lavish apex]

hallownest being so interconnected without all that many ability gates once you have claw is really cool to me, though silksong's map working the way it does is fine for story reasons

[median fractal]

Sea of Sorrow is definitely Act 2.

The thing is I am 90% sure that it will have Act 3 exclusive content, maybe the whole thing with Lifeblood starts in Act 3, that would make sense from a sotryline perspective.

Also, I predict that stuff like the godhome dlc will be Act 3 exclusive and that will make Act 3 better

[lavish apex]

if it used that same structure without any other changes it wouldn't work as well

[fleet temple]

I wouldn't have minded esmy being a regular semi relevant npc that doesn't have super big connections to the first game but fans will still get

[lavish apex]

and the sheer number of areas is really impressive

[barren girder]

hey where can i post an image from silksong? im kinda stuck and need help

[median fractal]

Anyway for Sea of Sorrow I am prepping an Act 2 save file

[fleet temple]

lame
old thing good new thing bad
TC really cut peak in favour of bilewater

[median fractal]

I dont think it was cut i nfavor of bilewater

[fleet temple]

#sk-help
make sure to spoiler tag

[median fractal]

it was meant to be next to bilewater no?

[barren girder]

ah ty very much

[lavish apex]

it is obviously going to have pharloom bay at minimum

like the fishing rod things in the trailer are identical to what you can see in early footage of the area

[median fractal]

wait what actually

I didnt think that was pharloom bay

[fleet temple]

I'm joking dw

[shadow dome]

wouldnt it be funny if it were completely desert akin to ancient basin

like dried up and shit

[lavish apex]

alsp apparently in prerelease binding used to be almost instant

[lavish apex]

anyways here's what i was talking about

left is sos trailer, right is the 2019 announcement trailer

[harsh yarrow]

people who think that Sea Of Sorrow wont be focused around the Bay just uh

havent used their brain

[timid plinth]

but it is not called bay of sorrow

this are just wrong

[lavish apex]

[harsh yarrow]

because Team Cherry doesnt use the final name when working on the areas

the Wormways? Crawl.

Blasted Steps and Sands of Karak? Coral.

Bilewater? Shadow

[orchid locust]

the dlc map got leaked already

[lavish apex]

i hope the hypothetical lifeblood spire is skong's path of pain

[harsh yarrow]

Sea of Sorrow? Likely has the internal name of "Bay"

[fleet temple]

seems that got turned into the injector band

[shadow dome]

with nyleth as the background music

[fleet temple]

anyway best thing about SoS is we might get hints about future dlc
idc about stinky grey saltwater, where's my steel clan?

[lavish apex]

my wish for dlc is that we get an area that's as pretty as coral gorge

[fleet temple]

my wish is TC changes their minds and does add coral gorge

a 3 hearts expansion is honestly what act 3 needs

[shadow dome]

a 3rd spool

diagonal wall dive silk technique

sherma

2

[queen acorn]

forgotten weaver technique d dark

[earnest drift]

I don’t like how coral gorge looks

[harsh yarrow]

and your opinion on that mater is just wrong ;3

[earnest drift]

mater from cars 2?

[orchid locust]

i really wish khann and karmelita were like verdania where you elegy in and get to explore a whole area (coral gorge / skarrgrad)

[earnest drift]

I play silksong on a black and white filter maybe if I didn’t I’d like coral gorge more

[orchid locust]

and that you can elegy their corpses any time to go back

with actual shit in the memory areas to collect

[harsh yarrow]

(not my work there)

[fleet temple]

yeah that's what they should've been
It's just missed potential

[lavish apex]

lace i can never discern if anything you say is genuine

[civic bolt]

Are you fully committing to the lace-sona

[fleet temple]

like I thought they might do a dlc for that but then they deconfirmed it so rip I guess

[earnest drift]

lace is the best character because she looks the same in black and white

[harsh yarrow]

phantom,

[earnest drift]

Oop sorry phantom is better

[orchid locust]

it feels like they cooked with the big green but then ran out of time or whatever for the other two (at least coral tower is a fun arena)

[earnest drift]

my apologies

[harsh yarrow]

its not that

[cerulean sable]

The blue palette will be redeemed in the DLC

[fleet temple]

Yeah
feels like they wanted to cut the other 3 but because they were backer bosses they had to leave them in
wouldn't be surprising since they cut sharpe

interesting how backer content was the first to go

[orchid locust]

idt sharpe is cut i think he’ll come in a dlc

[earnest drift]

if every dlc is act 3 exclusive will act 3 finally be good

[harsh yarrow]

I've said it quite a few times here
Verdania was on the verge of getting cut in 2023 and 24, and only barely got saved by becoming Lost Verdania
They took leftovers from the Cloverfields, and reworked them into Lost Verdania

The reason why this didnt happen for the Gorge or Karm is that they didnt have areas that got cut in the same way

[earnest drift]

what is cloverfields
I don’t know where to get any of this pre release info

[harsh yarrow]

The precursor to Verdania and the Wormways

[earnest drift]

I didn’t interact with silksong at all until it released

[harsh yarrow]

What you all think would've been Karms whole dream area got cut... and reused in the Far Fields (and by 2021, Karms Opera House was already in Far Fields)

What you want to be Khanns dream area got cut... and reused and rethemed into the Blasted Steps and Sands of Karak

Nyleth never really even had a significant area that could've been ever used in such a way

[earnest drift]

shellwooder

[lavish apex]

i think act 3 is good

[harsh yarrow]

ah yes, the area that still exists in game, and has no significant "cut" content ;3

[earnest drift]

why

[earnest drift]

no, shellwooder, which is twice as big as shellwood and the lore is that nyleth ruled over zote’s home town until she killed his parents with flowers

remember that cut content?

[lavish apex]

i like the story beats (even for as few as there are), the abyss escape is one of my favorite sequences in the game, and the less optional bosses are almost all bangers with the exception being nyleth and ig clover dancers if you hate them but i don't mind that fight personally

[harsh yarrow]

Then Verdania, it was an area about to get cut, and had a strong tie to one of the bosses they had planned to be part of Silksongs lategame? That was perfect material for becoming a full area

[lavish apex]

it is very weak in exclusive side content and exploration though

[fleet temple]

he has to come back he's a backer character

[latent terrace]

Is it weird of me to be more excited to find spool fragment compared to finding mask shards?

[earnest drift]

I hope sharpe is non binary

[orchid locust]

shrue

[earnest drift]

they got referred to as they/them in a QnA iirc

[latent terrace]

Feels like spool is more immediate impact and easier to find than mask shards

[earnest drift]

that might have been a pronoun placeholder though

[lavish apex]

if dlc adds like a lot of act 3 exclusive content (like map expansions, maybe more tool upgrades etc) i would like that very much

[queen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/do-muslims-eat-muslims-ramadan-b-lou-zias-gif-8194528139409068982

[unkempt steeple]

yes becuse the maximum silk storage is arguebly less important than health

[lavish apex]

i'm not sure about literally all of it being act 3 exclusive

[unkempt steeple]

after a while I've found collecting spool fragments to just not be that useful in non 100% runs

[orchid locust]

i hope it is act 3 desperately needs actual exploration

[lavish apex]

i wouldn't be completely opposed to it

but i do think like some of it should be accessible in act 2

[orchid locust]

yeah some of it should i agree

[lavish apex]

i guess it depends on the actual scale of what silksong gets since we don't have much to speculate on beyond sos aside from the fact that they're like
100% adding boss rematches eventually

[orchid locust]

but like as it stands act 3 has literally no unique areas to explore

[lavish apex]

and maybe city of steel?

[orchid locust]

you can experience the whole map sans lost verdania in act 2

[graceful cairn]

bbbut the abyss

[orchid locust]

oh and that

[lavish apex]

well, not the rest of far fields unless you use a now-patched skip

[graceful cairn]

I like how the abyss has literally no extra content besides a map and a relic lmao

[fleet temple]

act 3 needs a rework tbh

[lavish apex]

but yeah other than those things all you get is basically single rooms

[fleet temple]

more areas won't really fix the hearts quest

[queen acorn]

fraudbyss

the only good part of the abyss is when your leaving and thats hilarious to me

[shadow dome]

absolom boring af weavenest

[fleet temple]

the funny thing is that's still more content than verdania

[graceful cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256449251605614632/1487149612514148595/Screenshot_2023-05-12-13-43-26-1508028661.png?ex=69ccb4c1&is=69cb6341&hm=d6416a288056d6ce136fe2f3b70352334d1a28dd016e62ad87d2b1452b9ee7d2&

[queen acorn]

, ao

[fleet temple]

imagine being the only optional area

[shadow dome]

ao

[queen acorn]

lmao

how tf did i type ao instead of lmao

[graceful cairn]

realllll

[lavish apex]

i think it would be cool if the memory areas for the heart bosses were more like verdania

but idk how you can add rewards to that, so it might still feel tedious

[fleet temple]

it'd be better than nothing tbh

[orchid locust]

did hk have any dlc areas or was it just godhome?

[fleet temple]

though maybe we shouldn't dwell on cut content too much

[fleet temple]

unless you count path of pain, no

[hybrid flare]

Nkg's arena or wtv

[hybrid flare]

they NEED to be revisitable and have actual rewards

[lavish apex]

yeah, no reason to not just let you revisit them if they did that tbh

[fleet temple]

yeah the lack of replayability is what kills verdania

feels more like a dungeon tbh

[hybrid flare]

The lack of going there for ANY reason at all

[fleet temple]

yeah

[hybrid flare]

as theres no reward whatsoever

[fleet temple]

idk why they rushed act 3

[lavish apex]

the enemies also kinda suck

[fleet temple]

they weren't under a time limit like the first game

[strange knot]

Enemies and bosses suck there also

[harsh yarrow]

its not rushed, Act 3 is the "we made cool stuff we didnt want to cut"

which, same end result

[hybrid flare]

and yet they cut the cool stuff

[fleet temple]

also backer characters I guess

[shadow dome]

shaman crest

that shit is fire like cmon

[harsh yarrow]

The Shamans Crest is just reused from the Weaver Crest

[fleet temple]

yeah
they literally had fully designed karak enemies and shoved them into a lame enemy gauntlet

[strange knot]

Shaman is fire I agree

[orchid spruce]

Are we on the "Act 3 is terrible" topic, I'm in!

[fleet temple]

and it's obvious they know how much better the cut stuff was because they plaster it all over the marketing

[hybrid flare]

coral tower is fire, but the lack of exploration and underused elegy of the deep really does suck

[harsh yarrow]

which was in Mount Fay, and needed the Faydown Cloak

[strange knot]

We don’t even fucking know what would “weaver” crest do that’s just misinterpreted

[fleet temple]

like they know

[harsh yarrow]

...we do
it was the Shamans Crest

[strange knot]

Wait what

[hybrid flare]

Act 3's decent, but most of the things you can love it for are things that it could've been, not what it is

[harsh yarrow]

like, quite litterally
The concepting for the Shamans Crest in Ari's Sketchbook calls it the Weaver Crest

[fleet temple]

exactly
act 3 makes me go "wow this is cool, I wonder what it would've been like if it was actually in the game"

[hybrid flare]

LITERALLY the old hearts

[strange knot]

They just renamed it it was in early stages of development ofc smt is gonna change

[fleet temple]

lowkey feel like 2021 silksong was better

[harsh yarrow]

I dont think it was better

[hybrid flare]

You've seen 4 or 5 images of 2021 silksong i dont think it was

[fleet temple]

it was a different game tbh

[hybrid flare]

and the saturation was ugly as hell

[harsh yarrow]

it was different, and thats all I can say about it
This is my professional opinion after staring at it for way too long

[strange knot]

U haven’t played it how would you know fr

[fleet temple]

I want to play the old betas just because new content
maybe we could harvest the assets into mods

[harsh yarrow]

The 2021 map was also noteably unfinished

The Gloom was never finished
And because of that, the Abyss was never started

[hybrid flare]

this is why old pharloom expansion is a must

[hybrid flare]

The gloom went on to become graymoor iirc?

[shadow dome]

all of the footage of coral tower was fused together to create the lens flare you see when you enter bone bottom

[harsh yarrow]

Bilewater

[hybrid flare]

oh

[fleet temple]

true
good luck with that btw

[hybrid flare]

well it's peak either way

[harsh yarrow]

I just think the 2021 map was interesting

hence why Im putting in so much effort into recreating it

[hybrid flare]

it's the same shit but with renamed regions

[harsh yarrow]

but I will not say it was better

no, its not
Rooms got reused, but how they were assembled, connected, and themed was wildly different

[hybrid flare]

Do you really know how it was structured before?

[harsh yarrow]

We have the full maps...

yes

[fleet temple]

maybe it wasn't "better" but I think it just seems more in line with what I wanted out of silksong

[harsh yarrow]

a high res stitch of the ACMI maps is a WIP, but for now, what we have is MTCube's nice recreation of it in the style of the in-game map

[strange knot]

This looks awesome ngl

[harsh yarrow]

Im mostly done with the Cloverfields tilemap, the detailing will take awhile longer

[strange knot]

Clover grove is verdania if I understand correctly?

[harsh yarrow]

yesnt

[fleet temple]

I assume you're just gonna use the other gorge project for this

[orchid spruce]

Silksong's exploration was mid, except the Citadel specifically

[harsh yarrow]

Its Verdania and Wormways together in room design, sorta, but in reality its more like a mix of Verdania and the Moss Grotto

[strange knot]

I kinda wish Weavenest atla was this big ngl

[fleet temple]

crazy how they cut so many area transitions

[harsh yarrow]

Cant, looked at it, but its not possible

[fleet temple]

dang

[orchid spruce]

Perhaps in older versions, the map could favor exploration

[harsh yarrow]

something about Architect doesnt like Silksoul

[orchid spruce]

[fleet temple]

yeah
seems more in line with the first game

[fleet temple]

so you just gonna remake it from scratch?

[harsh yarrow]

chances are yeah

But the team working on that might be free to help out by then XD

[graceful cairn]

i love big atla why didnt we get this 💔

[harsh yarrow]

Because we got the smaller dispersed Weavenests instead

[fleet temple]

feels like they cut more than they added

[graceful cairn]

the lame stupid ones...

[tired hull]

Bellhart looks so much better

[fleet temple]

that reminds me I need to stop procrastinating with spriting

[harsh yarrow]

The only Weavenests the 2021 map had was Askar, Atla, and while they didnt get around to making it, Absolom

[fleet temple]

shellwood connecting to shrine just makes sense

[harsh yarrow]

Im assuming they planned Absolom, but I have no proof of it

and for reference, Askar is the Weavenest running through Mount Fay

[orchid locust]

wait big hunters march is so cool and it looks like it’d connect to creige’s basement

[graceful cairn]

why did EVERYTHING connect to underworks

[brave geyser]

We all know who the best boss is

[brave geyser]

Because of course everything would

[harsh yarrow]

what are you spriting?

[strange knot]

All roads lead to underworks

[exotic dome]

Silksong

[graceful cairn]

you WILL enter underworks

[exotic dome]

all roads lead to minimum wage labor

[fleet temple]

custom stuff for the gorge project

[still osprey]

Dustroach Pens?? 😭

[harsh yarrow]

and you didnt even notice- the Exhaust Organ has no entrance to the Choral Chamers like in the final game

[graceful cairn]

this is a recreation of the map from old maps

[graceful cairn]

instead it goes to UNDERWORKS 🤑

[harsh yarrow]

Mist, but big
Basically just Sinners Road, but dusty, with clean water

[strange knot]

All roads lead to bilewater or underworks

[harsh yarrow]

No bilewater to lead to in the 2021 map

[still osprey]

Yea I know what dustroach pens is it's just like, the map, why is it there, jumpscare

[harsh yarrow]

because its what Sinners Road originally was

When Bilewater replaced the Gloom, it got changed

[still osprey]

omg I only now saw what the image was replying to 😭

I'm just actually braindead sorry

[latent terrace]

Between pharloom and hallownest, which one do you guys think is the worser one to be born and live in?

[earnest drift]

current day, hallownest is worse to live in

in their primes, pharloom is worse to live in

much, much worse

[shadow dome]

depends on the area

[earnest drift]

although if you lived in the citadel during prime pharloom life wouldn't be bad

[shadow dome]

the mosskin seem fine, the guys from bilewater not so much

[earnest drift]

as long as you can handle the guilt of the blood of hundreds going into the polished marble you walk on

[shadow dome]

rip loam fr

[exotic cedar]

I'm glad loam died

[earnest drift]

finally someone gets it

[exotic cedar]

When he dies he's free from all that suffering

[shadow dome]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-toy-story-you-are-a-toy-you-are-a-chud-gif-2887627200340906462

wait nvm

misinterpreted it, yeah i agree

dude literally ran all day for a single bead

that YOU get

[wise halo]

Chat I’m so close to beating lost lace I keep getting to the final phase with her big void wave but die does anyone have any tips

[earnest drift]

he asked for his fate

[earnest drift]

to dodge the wave?

[wise halo]

Nah ik how I just fumble on that final phase like do you have tips to beat it

[earnest drift]

deal as much dmg as possible whenever she stays still to attack

usually during a void attack

[latent terrace]

What about in the future?

[shadow dome]

depends on the ending

[earnest drift]

hallownest is never going to be revived, if a new kingdom appears there, it won't be hallownest
pharloom can be rebuilt
so hallownest is worse

[latent terrace]

My pale goat just keep taking the L...

[shadow dome]

they cant rebuild shit in pharloom in the twisted bud ending

it would probably be even worse than in sealed siblings hallownest

[earnest drift]

hallownest was better in its prime but i believe pharloom was built before hallownest and still outlived it

[earnest drift]

twisted child ending is a shade lord level threat consuming the kingdom

it's comparable to non-flower embrace the void

[shadow dome]

yeah

but i believe being lignified like that column you break out of after getting it implanted at best spells worse for the citizens than turning into void masses at worst

[vivid horizon]

I mean khann isn't that hard, the attacks are very well telegraphed

[shadow dome]

its not the heat boss, its the humidity gauntlet

[vivid horizon]

Sawtooth circlet makes bosses easier, no?!

I was only using hunter's and cross-stitch, I had already exhausted all of my red tools in the gauntlets

But you used flea brew, no?

That counts as a red tool iirc

Ohh

Why not??!

The flying enemies are the only hard enemies 😭

[subtle lynx]

Now I see where the inspiration for the verdania little bug came from

[still osprey]

Yea Circlet is the best tool in the game

[vivid horizon]

Verdania's one of the most beautiful places in silksong imo

[subtle lynx]

It is the most beautiful

Whenever I go there I get said because I'm not there irl

[vivid horizon]

So sad it goes away once you beat clover dancers

[vivid horizon]

OMG CURVESICKLE

RAHHHHH

I love curvesickle

[still osprey]

Curvesickle is broken is deals way too much damage

[subtle lynx]

Wtf are moss druids doing in D

[still osprey]

Wt least it's situational and works best against big enemies

[still osprey]

I xebated putting them in C but I just didn't think they were good enough to be in C

[vivid horizon]

I used it in karmelita and khann gauntlets

[still osprey]

Cogflies aren't fun

[subtle lynx]

It's just grubsong

[still osprey]

Not really

It's just druid's eye x2

[subtle lynx]

Which is grubsong

[still osprey]

Now if it was Grubsong that would be a completely different story...

[exotic cedar]

Same place you fought him before

[subtle lynx]

Where do you think

[still osprey]

No, grubsong gives you soul when you get hit, Druid's Eyes give you 2 green strands when you get hit and then 2 silk when you get hit again

[vivid horizon]

Blasted steps!

[subtle lynx]

So grubsong lok

Go check it out and see!

[vivid horizon]

He's emo now

[still osprey]

I'd much rather just get 1 silk when I get hit

[vivid horizon]

TROBBIOOOOOO

[lavish apex]

i don't get the tacks hype

[subtle lynx]

Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed

[subtle lynx]

Sure thing

That doesn't mean it's a bad tool at all, it still is essentially grubsong

[lavish apex]

also

grubsong is far more efficient than druid's eyes

[exotic cedar]

Grubsong is also grub so its better

[vivid horizon]

TRUE!

[vivid horizon]

Grubs are so cute 🫀

[still osprey]

I mean, they deal good damage and they're easy to use

[vivid horizon]

Basically free dmg?!?!

[lavish apex]

even ignoring notch cost, which you SHOULD NOT, it gives more soul per hit taken than 1 melee hit

[vivid horizon]

Guys what's our favourite 1 notch charm

[lavish apex]

which is effectively what you get from eyes

grubsong

[exotic cedar]

Steady body

[still osprey]

Steady body

[lavish apex]

steady body is cool but i hate using it because it screws up my gamefeel

[vivid horizon]

steady body + quick slash

[still osprey]

They used to be even crazier, they had to nerf them

[lavish apex]

i think they're kinda situational

[still osprey]

Which is why I think they're great

[cedar mesa]

#hk-discussion

[lavish apex]

?

[rose flax]

when hornet said some “Hold your gratitude, little one. The dead are stirring.” the sheer aura coming off of her made me first-try that gauntlet

[still osprey]

Like, compare tacks to cogflies

[vivid horizon]

Remember when she said "It's time to silk the song"

[still osprey]

Tacks are situational, they're not good in every situation, it still feels like I'm using some kind of strategy, do I use them here or not?

Cogflies are good in every situation, they're boring, they don't feel like I'm engaging with the tool system at all, they require no thinking or strategy

[rose flax]

it was so tuff

[vivid horizon]

Cogfly go!

[cedar mesa]

Guys remember when hornet said "Cogfly's... ASSEMBLE!!!"

[vivid horizon]

Bro

That was so cool man

And then she said to lace "Get good kid"

That was so tuff!

[cedar mesa]

yeah mods be cooking with this one

[wispy dragon]

I just got silksong yesss

[vivid horizon]

Have fun

[plucky stag]

good luck

[vivid horizon]

Team cherry sometimes like trolling their fans

[plucky stag]

try to stay blind if you can

[wispy dragon]

been avoiding spoilers until now yah

[vivid horizon]

Cool

[plucky stag]

it's only going to get harder as the months and years pass

so better now than later

[still osprey]

Probably stay out of this channel then, this is the spoiler channel

[wispy dragon]

okidoki baibai

[wise halo]

I only got nail 2

[plucky stag]

for example, nobody bothers to spoil the radiance anymore even to first timers

[vivid horizon]

Why

[wise halo]

Idk

[wise halo]

The other quests to upgrade it is so long and boring like one of them is a courier quest

[vivid horizon]

Bro

[wise halo]

Bro what

[vivid horizon]

You put that off until act 3?

[wise halo]

Yes

[vivid horizon]

Have you atleast killed the voidmasses along the way

[earnest drift]

ok so you probably won't beat her

[wise halo]

Ok ok do you have ps

[earnest drift]

pale steel?

[wise halo]

Play station

As in what do you play on yk

[earnest drift]

pc

[wise halo]

Drats

I was gonna get in a ps party with you and you could’ve played the game for me with a share play

[earnest drift]

you should try to beat her yourself

even if it'll take months because you can't get any more needle upgrades

[warped cloak]

hi, sea of sorrow tomorrow?

[vivid horizon]

Bro why is lace lost? Did she lose her map or something?!??! 🤣

[vivid horizon]

Never

[still osprey]

Yes it's coming out tomorrow

[warped cloak]

who should i listen to

[still osprey]

I would never lie

[warped cloak]

@still osprey

[lavish apex]

sea of 2

[vivid horizon]

Ohh

Which silksong is your favourite guys

[lavish apex]

(it comes out in 2)

[earnest drift]

all of them

[earnest drift]

fake there's no moss grotto

[warped cloak]

verdania is cool

[vivid horizon]

Such a beautiful place

[warped cloak]

i agree

[vivid horizon]

until it fell to ruin

Not even a shell of it's former self, ALL of it is gone

[warped cloak]

wait wtf is pharloom bay

i've never been there

[still osprey]

Honestly it'd be pretty cool if there was some kind of mod that gives zoomed out maps to the areas that don't have them

Moss Grotto, Wisp Thicket, All of The Citadel

[warped cloak]

there's no pharloom bay wtf is this :(

scam

[still osprey]

It's gonna be in sea of sorrow

Which is coming out tomorrow btw

[warped cloak]

you said tomorrow yesterday

you lied :(

[still osprey]

I would never lie

[warped cloak]

you lied yesterday though

[vivid horizon]

Fake, the citadel is fake

[red depot]

the citadel is just hornets dream

we dream nailed hornet

[lavish apex]

if you keep saying sos comes out tomorrow eventually you'll be right

[earnest drift]

if you keep saying sea of sorrow tomorrow you will always delay it to tomorrow and it will never be today

[brave geyser]

Who's the best boss

[still osprey]

me

[brave geyser]

in deltarune yes

atleast better than john mantle

[exotic cedar]

Wdym? The badtie boss in silksong is amazing

incredible even

[brave geyser]

yea and hk is a great game

[worthy lintel]

What does this sign mean?

[brave geyser]

Trobbio's ad

[lavish apex]

rory

[brave geyser]

Bitchass

[exotic cedar]

Trobbio if he was fucking smart

[lavish apex]

this is true

[worthy lintel]

Wait omg you can pogo on this and hit it slightly to the side, this could actually be used in platforming lol

[exotic cedar]

imagine trobbio's arena but the chairs are full of dead pilgrims sitting

That'd be fire team cherry hire me

[vivid horizon]

Philosopher

What if there was powder that makes you eat powder that makes you eat powder that makes you eat powder that makes you pale king

[vivid horizon]

Why would he taint his stage with such putrid smells!

[exotic cedar]

Because he uh.. Yeah i didn't count the smells

[wise halo]

I could it’ll just be hard

[still osprey]

Trobbio is the type of guy to put on like 20 perfumes at once

He would probably put perfume on the corpses to stop them from smelling too

[exotic cedar]

I think itd be cool and it could add atmosphere to his boss arena

I don't really like his boss arena

[still osprey]

His arena does feel kind of empty yea

[shadow dome]

i think thats the point

literally no one other than him knows he exists

and it amplifies his grandiosity and self importance for comedic value

[exotic cedar]

What does trobbio even do in his free time

https://tenor.com/view/what-does-he-even-do-what-does-sog-even-do-soggy-cat-soggy-sogger-gif-10306303544645107519

[steep jolt]

he juggles the grenades

[brave geyser]

Yo check this out lmao

[steep jolt]

why is ts 18 minutes long

[earnest drift]

zote taking a jab at hornet

[brave geyser]

It's so peak

[exotic cedar]

What was trobbio before haunting

[orchid locust]

cashier

[normal bramble]

After act 2 he’s probably just planning his next performance that entire time

Act 3? Who knows

[civic island]

And injector band

[still osprey]

He just stays under the floorboards after Act 3

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-silksong-hollow-knight-tormented-trobbio-scared-gif-13022162881477030202

[normal bramble]

Atleast it has the best rosary grind for act 3

[civic island]

Awww

Do i need act 3 for this mf

[exotic cedar]

He's supid

[still osprey]

Yea Tormented Trobbio is in Act 3

[civic island]

Ffffffffff

[normal bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-silksong-tormented-trobbio-gif-7740935322252153957

[civic island]

I wannnaaaa nuke earlier

[still osprey]

Sometimes it's ok to be stupid

[exotic cedar]

One of the coolest attack in the game

[civic island]

Ez

[normal bramble]

I hope that trobbio gets a completely new fight for silksong pantheon

[still osprey]

Tormented Trobbio is really cool

[civic island]

Top ten lies

[exotic cedar]

Stinky trobbio when

[still osprey]

ME TOO it'd be so funny if he just got another fight for no reason

He already has the most voice lines in the game

[civic island]

Extra pyrotechnics

[still osprey]

More than both Hornet and Lace

[proven sky]

Lace 4 and Trobbio 3 in the DLC incoming

[normal bramble]

Creates a whole new show just for the hell of it

[still osprey]

Yellow Trobbio for godhome

[normal bramble]

🔥

[civic island]

Shakespeare trobbio frfr

Triple damage

[normal bramble]

New quill for the map

[exotic cedar]

Piss trobbio

Add a trobbio fight for every color in existence

[still osprey]

Gay Trobbio but it's just regular Trobbio

[orchid locust]

oblobblio

[normal bramble]

Can’t way for the silksong pantheon where they make us fight all 4 heart bosses at once

[bronze oasis]

it's good

[brave geyser]

Real good

[exotic cedar]

Make that 5... I will join too...

[brave geyser]

who the fuck even are you

[exotic cedar]

I'm apple

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-cat-spoon-spoon-cat-cat-apple-apple-cat-gif-254879498273748

[brave geyser]

ew

I hope your egg does crack

[latent terrace]

Rainbow Trobbio?

Where his bombs spreads aoe waves now?

Or is it just trobbio summoning his different colored clones

[exotic cedar]

WHY are you so mean

[shadow dome]

me when i catch bell beast

[brave geyser]

because no way in hell your ass is a heart boss

[exotic cedar]

What would i even do if i was a videogame boss

[brave geyser]

die in 5 hits

[civic bolt]

Sheeesh

[brave geyser]

Very Tuff i know

[dense mist]

ok now i got 100% completion with 0 deaths on a normal save file 😭 i should have just made it a steel soul save

[exotic cedar]

Atleast it's not 4...

[civic bolt]

I wouldn't say that to my worst enemy

[brave geyser]

Dw no one is as bad as Colossuem vengefly king

[latent terrace]

Make it atleast to be 6 or 7 hits

[brave geyser]

fuck you diagonally

[exotic cedar]

If you have a worst enemy, does that person become your best enemy?

[civic bolt]

[brave geyser]

Best enemy is probably someone you enjoy ragebaiting but is also annoying as hell

[civic bolt]

Well every Batman needs a Joker

[latent terrace]

Every Hornet needs their Trobbio

[brave geyser]

proud of u

[steep jolt]

what

[cerulean sable]

That Time I Was Reincarnated In A Knight Princess And Must Ascend To The Peak Of A Haunted Kingdom In Order To Restore Its Hope And Reclaim The Truth Of My Heritages Past

[rotund gate]

What is the context of this

[steep jolt]

the channels name is called out of context

and i told them to get some more

they said lizard

wtf does lizard mean

[rotund gate]

I meant the top image

[steep jolt]

yea the context for that image

[rotund gate]

Oh

Lizard

[brave geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-gif-4133321797479779339

[quartz gulch]

Chat is hella dead today.

[exotic cedar]

Good

[quartz gulch]

Nah, I'm bored.

[still osprey]

I'm so excited for sea of sorrow I can't wait to explore Pharloom Bay

[silk pumice]

we all are

[quartz gulch]

I'm attempting to send a moving png as a gif, so I can use it in discord. The video shows how it moves normally outside discord.

Damn, why doesn't it work?

[undone gate]

After beating itemless,upgradeless and toolless Seth with Architect Crest I realized how easy Seth is and the fact that you can dodge all his attacks by just jumping and walking

[quartz gulch]

Seth dying works just fine.

[exotic cedar]

Finally someone gets it

You can litteraly dodge that constant slam attack just by walking

[silk pumice]

agreed

[quartz gulch]

So you realize that being good at the game makes the game easier? Because Seth is objectively not easy.

And technically you could dodge nearly any attack if the timing is done perfectly.

[undone gate]

I am just saying Seth is easier than he looks he tries to confuse you with his combos when all you have to do is jump or walk

[brave geyser]

what if i died 80 times to savage beastfly 1 and only 3 to karmelita

[orchid spruce]

it just means karmelita is better designed

[quartz gulch]

Getting gud? Unless you mean after completing your first save. Then that's a skill issue.
I don't even use Beast and I defeat Beastfly for the fun of it, so I can't relate.

[brave geyser]

I do so too now
But lowk savage beastfly 1 > 2

[brave geyser]

Why is this called stupid yi lmao

[still osprey]

Cuz they're stupid

[brave geyser]

But yea there are some fights which do get a million times easier if you stop using most of your abilities

[exotic cedar]

Stupid stupid yi

[undone gate]

Imagine doing Itemless Savage Beastly 2 is it even possible

[brave geyser]

Especially lace 2

[brave geyser]

Stop giving me ideas

Ignore the fact i picked radiant

[broken seal]

Tas!

[quartz gulch]

We were robbed!

[broken seal]

also ignore the evolved hunters crest

[cinder pier]

halo people

[broken seal]

doom

[cinder pier]

no not doom, this is silksong

[quartz gulch]

Hallo

[cinder pier]

how u is

[quartz gulch]

Good.

[bronze oasis]

guys there is a tiny problem

[brave geyser]

I did disable it with the pantheon mod

[cinder pier]

wat is problam

[undone gate]

What is Savage Beastly 2 damage modifiers

[exotic cedar]

Why would someone do this

[bronze oasis]

someone asked a question I'm general chat and their bio says they are 12. discord is 13+

[quartz gulch]

Your pfp needs the bomber flintstone.

[broken seal]

oh neat

[brave geyser]

Apparently turning on the needle binding makes hunter's crest not buff anything EXCEPT clawline including needle strike which is bullshit imo

[cinder pier]

who

[brave geyser]

We are wondering if it's possible

[bronze oasis]

@heady wigeon

[exotic cedar]

Everything is possible

[brave geyser]

I do remember it taking 1+ more damage in my no upgrade runs
I hate mods

[cedar mesa]

if i understood that correctly: the reason it doesn't work is because that is a .mov (a video file format) not a .gif (what you're asking for). i have converted the .mov to .gif and I'll send it in #sk-help in a moment

[exotic cedar]

(Just don't make yourself suffer)

[quartz gulch]

Report or ignore. I wouldn't recommend the latter though.

[bronze oasis]

. tf is latter

[cinder pier]

:O that is a creminal offence

[cinder pier]

latter uis da second option

[cedar mesa]

yo what version of sk is that?

[bronze oasis]

is this latin or what

[broken seal]

Mobile, pirated

[cedar mesa]

r u allowed to say the name in this dc?

[undone gate]

Both the Savage Beastly vertions have a 1.7 damage modifier with a un-upgraded nail so 5×1.7= 8.5 which rounds to 8 so you should be dealing 8 damage

[quartz gulch]

"The latter" is the "later" suggestion.

[cinder pier]

i has deportad dems

[broken seal]

i mean there's no special name it's just silksong but pirated for Mobile

[exotic cedar]

If you say that name ... You DIE 😱

[cerulean sable]

Silksong Taunt Pack 4.99$

[broken seal]

used to refer to the last of listed options. If you're given options A, B, C, and D, then option D would be the "latter" as it was the last listed

[cinder pier]

oh dats nic

[brave geyser]

see the issue with my case is that i can't find a debug mod anywhere
I can't find a no upgrades all bosses file either. So even with old nail i'd be doing way more damage thanks to hunter's focus

[cedar mesa]

oh ok.

[bronze oasis]

thanks for translating it (English isn't my first language I do not understand most abbreviations)

[undone gate]

There is a debug mod for Silksong I don't know if it can remove Hunter Focus

[broken seal]

All good 👍

[cinder pier]

dw iz gooda vey gooda

[brave geyser]

Not on my port unfortunately

[quartz gulch]

Here are the full options. These include the no-advertisement subscription:

[brave geyser]

Also the boss has 200 hp extra so that's fun

[exotic cedar]

Silksong if it was fucking good

[bronze oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/abbreviations-gif-526317387741222245

[cinder pier]

anglish me secon languwage 2

[undone gate]

That makes sence I used Debug Mod to fight Itemless Seth

[bronze oasis]

GUYS PATTERN RECOGNITION TEST

[broken seal]

i like how it has the hk map on the map hud lol

[cedar mesa]

i don't think there's a mod launcher for mobile silksong

[broken seal]

5/4 intensifies

[cinder pier]

wafflez

[quartz gulch]

Creating maps is expensive, you should understand.

Unless you buy the dlc.

[bronze oasis]

hint

[cinder pier]

lace

lace wafflez

[bronze oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-meme-4tomist-4t-gif-2386377468908674440

[broken seal]

Khanns army is the marine/navy

[cinder pier]

yay

[cinder pier]

one piece

[bronze oasis]

guys guess what

[cinder pier]

woyt4

wot

[bronze oasis]

world of tanks

[cinder pier]

you say gues wot i ask wot doez u not understand

[icy crow]

Soon enough, our future generations will actually speak in abbreviations in real life

[cinder pier]

they do aready

[icy crow]

Cooked and boiled

[bronze oasis]

I checked your bio and I don't believe you

[cinder pier]

noo im amz not furry

[broken seal]

[bronze oasis]

that what someone who is would say

[cinder pier]

umm (think of an excusez) nuh uh

[quartz gulch]

Get that fucking dude away from my SS chat and use this.

[cinder pier]

nuh no nuh uh

[timid sky]

anthonys aura turned orange

[timid sky]

What's wrong with the fuck 2

[cerulean sable]

They shoild add Lace 4

[exotic cedar]

Amazing image

[cerulean sable]

Steel Variants for all bosses

[crisp heron]

Im genuinely so excited for sea of sorrow the music and characters and art style of this game are genuinely so amazing not to mention the bosses and i hug my pillow every night imagining its shakra and the locations genuinely feel so unique and just fun to explore im really hoping this dlc comes out soon cause i just know im gonna have so much playing it over and over for weeks

[cedar mesa]

bro gotta be ragebaiting

[wise halo]

Chat

[knotty mist]

Hiiiii ! How can i be voic chanel ?

[proud pebble]

guys watch first hkss trailer https://youtu.be/pFAknD_9U7c?si=aaBVmFblf4n2Gouy&t=74 is it sea of sorrow. (01:14)?????

[quartz gulch]

!Cut Content

How do I summon the bot?

Anyways, it's cut content.

Just like this.

We could've had a Vespa bossfight.

[slender juniper]

!wiki cutcontent

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Cut_Content_(Silksong)/Items
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page cutcontent for a direct link.

Hollow Knight Wiki

Cut Content (Silksong)/Items

This page contains a list of Items, Tools and Crests in Hollow Knight: Silksong that are unavailable in the finished game, despite being present in the game files or previously shown off by Team Cherry.

[slate wagon]

it’s gonna be shoved in godhome dlc trust

[meager jolt]

Man I wish we fought her

[quartz gulch]

Equipping Pintress badge should honestly just turn all needle strikes into this, with additional given damage.

Do you think that Sharpe will come in Sea of Sorrow? Personally I'd guess that there will be Sos, Steel Soul and Godhome equivalent.
If we're being optimistic, also a dlc to revert the void and restore Pharloom. I'd love to see the Sands of Karak, Verdania and just rebuilt stuff in other areas as well. As depressing and immersive the void is, it kinda sucks that a bunch of mechanisms are now gone entirely.

[meager jolt]

DLC to reverse the Void (most likely) isn't happening since that's the ending of the game and Hornet has no reason to stay in Pharloom after freeing everyone

[toxic vigil]

last judge time

[meager jolt]

Sharpe is defo coming to Silksong, not sure when, tho

[meager jolt]

Good luck

[quartz gulch]

Then how would any other content work? Most bosses should technically be voided and most areas should be destroyed. It'd be unrealistic if the Pharloom Bay was just unaffected.
Verdania recovering hints at a possibility of change, and any hope shall not be lost for me. The only completely unrealistic thing I want is Xero being the protagonist of the next game or a bossfight. Non-ghost form.

[toxic vigil]

forgot magma bell

eh yk what fuck it
without

[quartz gulch]

Ik, I'll say it's most likely its own Steel Soul dlc. They already have Steel enemies planned apparently. And cut content from HK also ended up in Silksong, so "cut" doesn't mean anything final. Examples of cut HK content:

[meager jolt]

Could be differences between Acts 2 and 3 like base game

[errant ingot]

um guys

is groal the great supposed to be hard

[candid barn]

Will the dlc be as hard as act 3?

[meager jolt]

Yeah

[toxic vigil]

2nd try!

[quartz gulch]

Subjective question.

[errant ingot]

i beat him 2nd try

[errant ingot]

because i see many ppl complain

[meager jolt]

Congrats!

[meager jolt]

Complaining about the runback

[quartz gulch]

He's objectively hard, but they also just didn't use any of the stuff that helps immensly.

[errant ingot]

yeh thats more difficult than him

[errant ingot]

i had cogflies equipped but forgot to pop them ngl

[orchid spruce]

I completely mastered the runback by the time I beat Groal

Optimized to the milisecond

[errant ingot]

speedrunner

[errant ingot]

thanks!

[orchid spruce]

It just tells you how many tries it took me

[analog mist]

theres no way plasmium is the same as lifeblood

okay they're very similar but

[quartz gulch]

It literally is.

[analog mist]

plasmium seems to be much more potent than lifeblood

[quartz gulch]

The new cover art for HK uses the new design too.

[analog mist]

lifeblood in HK has no mention of regenerative properties

[orchid spruce]

that's explained away by hornet not being a mostly empty vessel

[normal bramble]

I’m pretty sure hornet literally says smth about her knowing what Plasmium is to Zango

And he just shuts her down