sk-discussion

[graceful oyster]

Sekiro is an anime game I can't play it

[left crypt]

bro badtie can i watch the stream

[fiery burrow]

if you play minecraft like its a game that's gonna have solid progression you're playing it wrong and i'm going to be elitist towards you

[subtle lynx]

💀

[vivid belfry]

listen minecraft combat being dogshit is a legitimate criticism

[left crypt]

nyleth knights

[vivid belfry]

it's a thing you can do in the game and it's not fun

[subtle lynx]

idk man, it's the most bought game ever, I think it has to be good at sth

[graceful oyster]

Waiting for people to jump on me for calling Sekiro anime

[hybrid flare]

Yeah it can't have a solid progression, it never will

[subtle lynx]

he called minecraft a bad game or sth like that and his main argument was combat

[strange knot]

I like Minecraft when I’m in the mood for it and it’s no often. Same with stardew prob

[normal bramble]

Meanwhile one of my friends literally every other week sending me stuff like this

[subtle lynx]

that's like me saying silksong sucks becuse the bell has very little costumization

[orchid spruce]

it's kinda anime in a way, it's japanese for example

[hybrid flare]

The exploration while alright, is mostly unrewarding when you get the same bland, uninteresting slop that contributes nothing to my experience

[left crypt]

minecraft is a sandbox advertised as a survival game

[normal bramble]

I genuinely could not explain how you begin to even build that

[left crypt]

the survival is awful

[normal bramble]

Minecraft is ADVERTISED AS A SANDBOX

[hybrid flare]

after walking for 3 years and migrating to saudi arabia

[subtle lynx]

how is it awful???

[strange knot]

Lwk breaking mc is more fun than playing it

[subtle lynx]

have you guys actually played minecraft

[left crypt]

progression is bad

[hybrid flare]

Command blocks bring me joy

[barren dew]

Isn't anime like the best description for the artstyle they usually do in Japanese cartoons

[subtle lynx]

yet again

[orchid spruce]

survival in minecraft is bad, yeah, very bad

[left crypt]

creative mode is good

[strange knot]

I love doing silly stuff with command blocks

[left crypt]

building is great

[hybrid flare]

The artstyle isn't anime even, its based loosely off of japanese popular culture

[left crypt]

modding is alright

[graceful oyster]

If Minecraft isn't good then what the heck is this

[normal bramble]

Build slop

[orchid spruce]

i had to install a couple mods just to make the survival slightly more interesting. thanks heaven i found out about don't starve franchaise.

[hybrid flare]

Hold on... some kind of.. iteration you say

[subtle lynx]

shader slop

[left crypt]

certainly not terraria modding or anything like that but still good

[subtle lynx]

get that shit outta here

[hybrid flare]

Looking like an iterated can

[barren dew]

Doesn't anime means Japanese animations? /genq

[graceful oyster]

Also yeah command blocks are very fun

[hybrid flare]

It's not even a japanese animation at that

[exotic cedar]

Terraria gets carried because of mods

[hybrid flare]

560 hours modded, 40 hours base game

[graceful oyster]

I made Hollow Knight charms in Minecraft that you hold in your offhand

[vivid belfry]

I think basegame terraria is pretty good

[hybrid flare]

grindrarria

[strange knot]

Idk I’ve never actually played terraria

[barren dew]

I could have sworn I remember it being meant like that

[vivid belfry]

it's my podcast game of choice

[subtle lynx]

same!

[hybrid flare]

Sekiro isnt

[exotic cedar]

I actually think singleplayer terraria is very boring

[orchid spruce]

i just don't find terraria appealing

[hybrid flare]

Likewise multiplayer mc is fun

[orchid spruce]

[left crypt]

multiplayer anything is fun

[exotic cedar]

I tried a 1.4.5 playthrough
Ended up buying a new game and start getting addicted to it

[hybrid flare]

If only mojang were a smart dev team and added shit that i could care about

[orchid spruce]

which is okay

[hybrid flare]

I can't handle vanilla terraria im too used to the oversaturated qol of the mods

i dont want to fish fuck no

[left crypt]

i hate qol mods

[orchid spruce]

we're just saying shit for the sake of it now aren't we

[left crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/absolute-cinema-24

[barren dew]

Oh yeah I know I mean the "anime" artstyle itself not where it was created it

[subtle lynx]

I hate mods

[exotic cedar]

I actually played a lot of terraria multiplayer

[hybrid flare]

Yeah sekiro doesn't have that

it looks like your avg souls game, i'd say much better actually

[vivid belfry]

BANNED

[subtle lynx]

I HATE YOU

[left crypt]

mod ban him

[hybrid flare]

Orphan of kos and ludwig > eigong

[barren dew]

Ohh I never played it so I had no idea

[hybrid flare]

if you've seen it at least once you can tell

[graceful oyster]

Radiance > Lost Lace > Eignog

[hybrid flare]

[left crypt]

eggnog

[subtle lynx]

ik what the last thing but so true

[hybrid flare]

Its actually perfect if you reverse the arrows

[weary acorn]

who on god's green earth is eignog

[orchid spruce]

this opinion is so shit it doesn't need debunk

[barren dew]

I do but I sometimes forget games exist after a while

[slim thorn]

Radiance or absrad or is it some non hk radiance i dont know about?

[strange knot]

U didn’t even fought eingong yet didn’t you

[hybrid flare]

radiance isnt even in the same league im sorry

[slim thorn]

O is it final bosses isnt it?

[light swan]

eggnog is better than both rad and lace

[hexed sonnet]

lost lace runback is too long

[graceful oyster]

I have not

[strange knot]

Same

[graceful oyster]

Nuh uh

[hybrid flare]

Alr makes sense, lost lace still dunks on radiance doe

[orchid spruce]

eggnog blows every hk/silksong boss out of the water

just fight her yourself

[graceful oyster]

I'm working on it

[weary acorn]

please tell me who this eggnog person is i genuinely do not know

[graceful oyster]

Patience friend

[orchid spruce]

peak boss from game Nine Sols

[hybrid flare]

Mostly yeah, although i do think a few select ones do come a bit closer

[barren dew]

A character from Nine Sols if I remember

[light swan]

shes very close to topping mio's true final boss, and thats a high bar

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/clark-griswold-drinking-egg-nog-gif-15652954

[graceful oyster]

Nuh uh

[hybrid flare]

(The only remarkable thing about that game aside from the tuff manga pannels)

[left crypt]

is it impressive to beat colo 1 with starter knight and only downslashes

[subtle lynx]

no way you just said that

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/nine-sols-parry-nine-sols-game-yi-nine-sols-yi-gif-4679426193460252462

[hybrid flare]

You unironically think that mio's final boss is better?

[strange knot]

How dare you forget about parries

[subtle lynx]

any nine sols defenders wanna say anything?

[light swan]

yes

[hybrid flare]

Oh... my bad.. i've seen quite a load of parries

[graceful oyster]

I think talisman is a sick ability so I'm chill with it

[barren dew]

Are all characters cats

[hybrid flare]

I gotta rush the game then

[light swan]

if i liked nine sols combat then id put eggnog above mio's final boss tho

[hybrid flare]

to see if thats true

[orchid spruce]

everything else is also great. it's just eggnog is just so great, it leaves the rest in the shadows

[light swan]

i think its just me who loves the final boss that much

[strange knot]

Idk I only met 2 cat characters

[vivid belfry]

Eigong is also great but I don't think she's the most remarkable aspect of the game

I think its Yi

[hybrid flare]

The characters are solid i agree

[strange knot]

Yi has so much personality tbh

[light swan]

if i wasnt slightly mentally insane then eggnogn would definitely be my favorite bossfight by far

[graceful oyster]

I really like Yi's moveset and abilities so far

[strange knot]

I love them

[light swan]

the difference between eggnog and mio's second final boss is like... 9.5/10 vs 9.6/10

and mio's final boss is carried from me loving mio's combat system, while eggnog is brought down from me not loving nine sols' combat system

[weary acorn]

anything but silksong dawg

[orchid spruce]

best combat vs best exploration

[strange knot]

Yes.

[light swan]

thats not how i see it but thats how most other people see it

[graceful oyster]

Yeah from what I've seen if I go into 9 Sols expecting exploration I will be disappointed, so I'm not

[lavish apex]

are there unparryable attacks in ns

[vivid horizon]

We all hate silksong here, right?!

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[subtle lynx]

dw, silksong is better than whatever crappy game they are talking about

[orchid spruce]

yes

[slim thorn]

You gotta make the silksong discussion you want to see

Try not to be about crests slander tho, altough i wouldnt mind crest glazing for all

[weary acorn]

😐

[orchid spruce]

lmao snail

[subtle lynx]

he did not like that

[vivid horizon]

I'm sorry man

I mean kitten

deesmall

[weary acorn]

man i really need a new username

[vivid horizon]

Js realised

Mb smol

[weary acorn]

it's k

[lavish apex]

are they common?

[light swan]

i mean.... not really

[vivid horizon]

Why is hornet able to parry contact damage using cross-stitch?!

[left crypt]

is it impressive to beat trial 1 in the colosseum with only downslashing, nail 1, no spells, and no movement

[light swan]

unless the others are lying on purpoise for no spoilers

or im forgetting things

[graceful oyster]

My will is our truth

[orchid spruce]

||redblack is unparriable + fire is unparriable||

[normal bramble]

She’s just that locked in

[light swan]

monorpilled

[vivid horizon]

Fairs

[light swan]

||redblack is crimson?||

[orchid spruce]

||crimson is red, redblack is redblack||

[vivid horizon]

You a real fool for trying that

[left crypt]

was in a rando

[light swan]

||WTF is redblack||

[vivid horizon]

Why is crimson not crimson

What the feedbacker

[light swan]

actually dont remind me

[trim estuary]

well yeah if the game the chat is about is mid no one’s gonna wanna talk about it

[light swan]

i dont want to remember nine sols

[lavish apex]

lmao?

[graceful oyster]

Virgin "I want to forget a game" vs Chad "I want to remember this game"

[vivid horizon]

Have you been in a world of rain

[orchid spruce]

[stable pilot]

Oh my god now it's nine sols

[lavish apex]

i thought you liked that game

[stable pilot]

Anything but silksong

[lavish apex]

no i haven't played rain world if that's what you're asking

[vivid horizon]

I see

[lavish apex]

not sure why you would want to know

[light swan]

as in i want to forget it to replay it

[lavish apex]

ohhh

[light swan]

LOL

i fucking love nine sols i would never be that mean

[orchid spruce]

nine sols combat has a lot of techniques that you probably haven't unearthed yet

[vivid horizon]

Rain on my parade

[light swan]

yea

[zinc wharf]

I remember when I first encountered First Sinner, I was like, ”Oh, this boss HAS to be the key to progression.” I found the Apostate Key in an unrelated portion of the map, found a prison cell tucked super far away, and encountered a boss called the FIRST SINNER. Imagine how I reacted when all I got was a Silk Skill.

[orchid spruce]

||uc buffer, uc turnaround cancel, jump cancel, etc || (don't open if you don't know to know)

[light swan]

which is why i want to replay the game

[stable pilot]

I want to forget Silksong, the first playthrough hits different

[lavish apex]

oh, no. that's a lyric from one of my favorite songs

[vivid horizon]

You were so super happy!

[vivid horizon]

I see

[slim thorn]

Same
And its the worst one

But peak fight

[light swan]

still doesnt change the fact that 8/12 eggnog attacks are countered by standing still and pressing a button tho

[strange knot]

I want to forget a lot of games ngl

[light swan]

me too

[zinc wharf]

I wish…

[slim thorn]

Would do it + void + widow again

[graceful oyster]

Forgetting a game is pointless

Remembering it is everything

• Grynne, 2026

[strange knot]

Maybe

[quartz roost]

He is very easy too easy, and not important to the lore

[orchid spruce]

I want to forget slay the princess 🥹

[light swan]

i want to forget xenoblade 3

[slim thorn]

||She can make you forget you should just ask||

[orchid spruce]

[strange knot]

I rlly want to replay oneshot but it’s kinda pointless since I know almost everything about the game

[graceful oyster]

What all these people don't realize is forgetting a game means forgetting how good it was, you gain nothing except temporal difference
1 - 1 + 1 = 1

The only reason you want to replay it is because you remember how good it was

[trim estuary]

[graceful oyster]

Latch onto that instead

[light swan]

thats true

[lavish apex]

interesting philosophical take

[light swan]

but what matters is the + 1

[orchid spruce]

If you experience pain, forget it and experience it again, is it no worse than experiencing it once?

[light swan]

im still gaining +1 twice, even if i get the same result

[orchid spruce]

Or is experiencing it once still better?

[graceful oyster]

If you don't remember experiencing it it is no worse

[vivid belfry]

Alright, here's the new top 25 keeping in mind that I have only gotten the first ending of MIO

[orchid spruce]

even if i don't remember it, i still have suffered

[graceful oyster]

But you don't know that

There's no carry

[strange knot]

I should prob play outer wilds after omori

[vivid belfry]

Scarlet Hollow is probably shooting up 4-5 slots when it's a complete story

same with Deltarune

[trim estuary]

No, I think it’s more like this

[graceful oyster]

Watching someone else play the game is like another +1 that doesn't cost a -1

[graceful oyster]

That's what you get when you play it again or watch someone else

[orchid spruce]

does that mean the suffering i inflict on a person is 0 if i make them forget it afterwards?

[trim estuary]

i only played the demo but that was genuinely the most scared i’ve been playing a video game that i can remember

[graceful oyster]

If there's no other expression of it, yes

Suffering is experiential

[vivid belfry]

damn, high praise

[graceful oyster]

Erasing experience is erasing suffering

[orchid spruce]

you're walking down the path of the ends justifying means

[lavish apex]

deltarune will either be mid or the greatest game of all time

[orchid spruce]

you're becoming an egg

[vivid belfry]

I do think Scarlet Hollow has really effective atmosphere but I don't think it ever gets as scary as chapter 1 again

[graceful oyster]

What

[light swan]

this is my main thought process

[orchid spruce]

ball knowledge

[vivid belfry]

actually maybe chapter 3, it depends on where you fall in regards to psychological horror

[light swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8PMjzCbzx0

[graceful oyster]

But if you don't remember the initial +1 it doesn't matter, it's pointless

[orchid spruce]

[light swan]

but you still gain +1 twice

lets zoom out as an outsider for a second

[graceful oyster]

But it doesn't matter, you don't have 2, you have 1

[stable pilot]

Have you ever played Cuphead?

[light swan]

even if the result is the same, youre still experiencing the +1 twice

and the +1 is what matters, the result less so

[vivid belfry]

yes

[lavish apex]

i feel like im a hypothetical scenario where you could choose to erase an experience with a piece of art that'a kinda risky

because like what if it didn't hit the same due to you being a different person

[graceful oyster]

Well no, because you don't remember it, there's no net positive

[strange knot]

Gn chat gtg

[stable pilot]

Weird that it isn't in the top 25, but opinions

[light swan]

theres no net positive

but the exerience matters more than the net result

[stable pilot]

Gn man

[orchid spruce]

||An eternal pattern of forgetfulness leading into the joys of rediscovery|| major slay the princess spoilers

[light swan]

this is true

[graceful oyster]

There is no gain in experience if you erase it before gaining it again

[vivid belfry]

I haven't actually ranked it yet but it definitely wouldn't be top 25

[stable pilot]

It's top 3 for me

[exotic cedar]

Cuphead is one of the games that does not appeal to me

[vivid belfry]

it's a very good game but every game in my top 25 is an untouchable masterpiece except everhood 2

[light swan]

but i still experience it twice, do i not?

i still get that +1 twice, do i not?

so it matters little that theres no net positive or no gain. the +1 happened twice, even if the -1 also happened

[stable pilot]

I have not played a lot of games, but I know what I like

[orchid spruce]

i have played so few games that my top 25 would be the entire list with a bunch of empty spots

[vivid horizon]

OMG ULTRAAKILL AHBAANsa

[vivid horizon]

Me too man

[exotic cedar]

Same, i only have 14 games on my steam library lol

[lavish apex]

post your top 25

[vivid belfry]

I just did

[stable pilot]

Up there

[lavish apex]

i'm dumb

[graceful oyster]

But if you don't remember getting the first +1 it's pointless, there is no benefit at all

[vivid belfry]

anyway I should rank cuphead

[graceful oyster]

You don't experience something twice if your experience is erased

[light swan]

i already told you that net positive or benefit matters less

[graceful oyster]

And that's wrong

[stable pilot]

For me, it's 10/10 in gameplay
0/10 story
10/10 OST
10/10 graphics

[lavish apex]

pikmin 4 and bananza are interesting choices

[stable pilot]

Autocorrect tripping

Why did it put quotation marks

[vivid belfry]

pikmin 4 I'm going off the vibes of when I first played it at launch, so it probably needs re-evaluation

bananza is actually just that good though, verifiably

[vivid horizon]

I swear the story is they sell their soul to the devil after gambling

[vivid belfry]

cuphead does not have a bad story

having sparse story content doesn't make it unredemptive

[graceful oyster]

This is also true. Or getting spoiled, or having different amounts of free time

[opaque sigil]

0/10 also kind of suggests offensively bad

[stable pilot]

It's just bad in comparison to other games

[graceful oyster]

It's just not a good idea in the hypothetical

[vivid horizon]

Hello night

[stable pilot]

I also rank using negative numbers

It ranges from -10 to 10

[vivid horizon]

So

[stable pilot]

0 is just mid

[opaque sigil]

this is a terrible way to do it

[stable pilot]

I know

[exotic cedar]

Just say 5 tbh

[still osprey]

not even close

[vivid horizon]

Omg

[slim thorn]

Or updates

[stable pilot]

Agree

But no

[left crypt]

I’m back did anyone miss me

[stable pilot]

Who are you

[left crypt]

Rah

[orchid spruce]

wow look at my top25 with 9 games

[left crypt]

Why is silksong 8th

[exotic cedar]

Silksong is not that good

[slim thorn]

Where you making this?

[orchid spruce]

Silksong is not that good

[exotic cedar]

Has a lot of flaws tbh

[orchid spruce]

https://topsters.org/

[left crypt]

But why is hollow knight above it

[orchid spruce]

Because I like HK better

[timid plinth]

i really need to play mio

[stable pilot]

No replayability

[slim thorn]

Its paywalling a huge part of this channel, alongside many other games

[stable pilot]

Hollow knight better

[left crypt]

Is nine sols really that good

[slim thorn]

So no steel soul?

[still osprey]

woke defeated

[stable pilot]

No

[slim thorn]

:Sadeline:

[idle sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-capaldi-doctor-docto-who-facepalm-facepalm-gif-26980363

[vivid horizon]

Omg celeste mentioned beleleeldlaldss

[crisp heron]

whats everyones favorite silksong

[vivid horizon]

Icl it's silksong 1

[graceful oyster]

I loved fighting him, he was one of my favorite bosses

[idle sparrow]

silksong 2

[vivid horizon]

Bro part 2 sucked man

[slim thorn]

Someone had to do it, everyone is offtopicking into te newerbmetroidvanias instead of celete how it used to be

Altough that might be cuz im on sk discussion instead of hk discussion

[vivid horizon]

It felt saturated unlike part 1

[vivid belfry]

Alright, lookin like cuphead is at 67th place rn but that'll probably shift down when I rank the rest of my 2026 games

[idle sparrow]

but the music and action was phenomanal

[fiery burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK1X_9EOmhQ&t=188s

[slim thorn]

Endless fun

[vivid horizon]

Especially the lace reveal

[crisp heron]

haha like

[vivid horizon]

Lace tried to tie her laces and fell down

[orchid spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246412435292946456/1477371931912306718/yi67.gif

[still osprey]

I passed 300 hours in silksong 🎉

[vivid horizon]

remember that one

[idle sparrow]

"We are the... lacesong"This gave me chills

[vivid horizon]

Sorcery

[left crypt]

I loved when Sherma was the final boss in silksong:return of zote

[light swan]

i cant argue with that, just a difference of taste ig

[vivid horizon]

I was abt to cry then

[light swan]

i value the +1 more than the net result

[ivory field]

Guys, I just managed to complete a challenge I set for myself: to play the entire Act 3 with the curse, and then use the lace on the hit without tools using the Witch's coat of arms, probably some terms in English, I must have misspelled them because I'm using Google Translate lol

[vivid horizon]

Remember when it was zote raft instead of zoteboat, the good old days

[rotund gate]

Execution

[light swan]

theres also the option where i forget enough about something but its not like a brainwipe

i remember how much i enjoyed it but not what happened

kind of like my brother with xenoblade 2

[light swan]

or me with p5r

[graceful oyster]

I'm talking about the brainwipe hypothetical

[light swan]

ya, i was too

[idle sparrow]

only real ogs know the zote canoe game which was discontinued snce it contained"Violent scenes" of zote or smthing

[graceful oyster]

If you remember how good a game was you won't be able to experience it the same way

[light swan]

but this second option is the best of both worlds

[vivid horizon]

What if powder that makes you eat powder that makes you eat powder

[rotund gate]

Vros on sometbing

[vivid horizon]

The precepts gauntlet was a bit annoying though

[graceful oyster]

You can't though, lol, that's the whole point. You can't value it because it didn't happen to your knowledge

[slim thorn]

I couldnt understand very well the lost lace part

[vivid horizon]

she lost her map

[graceful oyster]

At the end result you say "wow, I loved playing that for the first time" and then move on

[idle sparrow]

Ya the savage zotefly at the end of the gauntlet really ticked me off

[left crypt]

You can’t fight lost lace while cursed

[light swan]

the +1 still happened whether or not i remember it

[graceful oyster]

But it doesn't mean anything because you don't remember it

It doesn't affect you at all

[light swan]

i already told you i care less about the end result 😭

[graceful oyster]

It may as well have not happened

[slim thorn]

Hornet doesnt worry for gms but then wants to maximise no matter what for lost lace

[orchid spruce]

Why does humanity try to survive if the end result is pre-destined doom

[graceful oyster]

You have to, because the end result defines what you know

[orchid spruce]

[slim thorn]

Dont make spoilers bruh

[light swan]

for what? life?

[vivid belfry]

alright, the 120 games that I have evaluated so far

[graceful oyster]

To experience

[ivory field]

To fight Lost Lace you can't have the curse on you, so the alternative I found was to keep the witch's crest and not equip any tools (charms), and I also wanted to beat her on No Hit.

[minor sparrow]

Shits and giggles

[left crypt]

Where is Celeste

[slim thorn]

Sounds close enough, congrats

[vivid belfry]

FAUCK

[minor sparrow]

What more fun is there in life than fucking around for no reason

[exotic cedar]

We will all die because of a war without reason

[idle sparrow]

it seems we are... at ends

[still osprey]

I love getting here in Act 1 it's so funny

[ivory field]

Tks

[slim thorn]

We are gonna have to throw you from a mountain now

[vivid belfry]

I think Celeste is probably the new 24, pushing down rayman legends

[graceful oyster]

Life isn't all about fun

[vivid belfry]

but that would mean pushing MIO out of the top 25

[graceful oyster]

(Caution, worldview perspective)

[leaden drum]

you cant get into act 3 with witch crst?

[graceful oyster]

Unacceptable

[unreal musk]

Yo guys question can hornet use soul like the knight

[leaden drum]

i dont like mio

[graceful oyster]

Okay

[minor sparrow]

Purple (and spelunky 2)

[leaden delta]

silk

[leaden drum]

its scary and boring

[light swan]

to experience all the +1s

[vivid belfry]

Kinda? Her ability to absorb soul is why she has infinite silk unlike the weavers

[graceful oyster]

And why do we experience? To remember

[leaden drum]

first time playing silksong over herwe

[leaden delta]

so yes but theres an extra step in converting soul to silk, i think

[graceful oyster]

That's why people fear dementia

[light swan]

but we're all gonna die and not remember anything

[lavish apex]

silkcinema

[fiery burrow]

I forgot about pseudoregalia wtf

[left crypt]

Wait the weavers don’t have unlimited silk?

[vivid belfry]

hi Sonia

[leaden drum]

i dont get it. the whole game looks like runningaround in a one colored factory

[graceful oyster]

I'd rather remember things on my deathbed than push a button that lets me do it all again but my mind gets wiped

[vivid belfry]

Pseudoregalia gets mad points for being the only 3D platforming metroidvania I've ever played

[fiery burrow]

untapped market

[ivory field]

Yes, you can't enter Act 3 if you've already been cursed, but you can be cursed after progressing to Act 3; the NPC remains in the same area (I don't know the name of the area in English).

[minor sparrow]

Is it meant to be read in rows or columns, out of curiosity

[vivid belfry]

left to right in rows

[minor sparrow]

Gotcha, thanks

[leaden drum]

but then y cant u do lost lace with it

[light swan]

one color btw

(and these are only early game areas)

[leaden drum]

mb bro

[minor sparrow]

Wait I didn't even see world and rise. I appreciate this so much more now

[leaden drum]

ill play it jeez...

[light swan]

bro i thought you were judging it because you already played it

[leaden drum]

nah

[ivory field]

Exactly, you can't perform the Lost Lace ritual while cursed because the game doesn't allow you to perform the Red Memory ritual while you're cursed.

[minor sparrow]

You don't gotta play it lol, it was just a weird comment to make

[fiery burrow]

is rise the best game focused around silk based combat and movement

[ancient mortar]

Mios artstyle really grew on me. I love the almost pencil sketched look of the textures

[vivid belfry]

World was in my top 25 for a good while

[leaden drum]

it loked like a horror game so i quit

[ancient mortar]

What game?

[minor sparrow]

My perfect MH game would probably be world style with wilds combat

[fiery burrow]

Nah Mio is pretty similar to HK and SS not really any horror elements

[leaden drum]

mio

[vivid belfry]

I don't know how but when I first saw the trailers for Mio I thought it was gonna be a slower paced, unconventional movement affair like Dandara

[ancient mortar]

Mios not scary at all. It's less scary than silksong I'd say

[light swan]

bruh 😭

[ancient mortar]

Or hk

[leaden drum]

whats wilds

[vivid belfry]

by the way

[light swan]

sending this again becuase it’s funny

[vivid belfry]

Dandara is not an exceptional game, but it has one of the best songs ever written in its soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBG3T9yhEug

[graceful oyster]

The scariest thing in Mio is a ||job application||

[lavish apex]

posting my slop again

[light swan]

REAL bro actually thought i was gonna fight a crazy bossfight

[minor sparrow]

Monster Hunter Wilds

[ancient mortar]

The evil and sinister glob of blue goop

[still osprey]

goodbye Pilby

[exotic cedar]

Yay pilby died

[fiery burrow]

Wilds combat is good but tbh I thought Rise had the best map design

[minor sparrow]

Oh and DRG peam

[light swan]

afterimage glaze

[fiery burrow]

Wilds combat with World art direction though

[ancient mortar]

MIO SPOILERS ||mios very realistic. You get hired and realize very quickly you need to kill your boss|| for legal reasons this is a joke

[exotic cedar]

Every time a pilby dies my lifespan increases by one year

[minor sparrow]

This list keeps exciting me the more I look at it

[leaden drum]

chat gpt told me grand mommy silk has 8 distince phases

[opaque sigil]

Wilds combat is a mixed bag but it’s definitely a lot better than world

[minor sparrow]

Yeah that's my ideal game

I think wounds are overturned but other than that, wilds combat feels so much more fluid

[opaque sigil]

Sure but they’re not as bad as the clutch claw

That shit SUCKS

[minor sparrow]

Without sacrificing weight like I feel rises did

[ancient mortar]

I've never played a monster hunter game

[fiery burrow]

You oughta fr

[minor sparrow]

Sure but clutch claw had the sword and shield shotgun blast which makes it immediately good

[vivid belfry]

monster hunter is really intimidating to get into because it just fucking gives you everything immediately

[opaque sigil]

That’s like the worst offender

[vivid belfry]

"here dickhead, learn 20 movesets"

but it is worth it

[minor sparrow]

Not shotgun into pr, I just mean shotgun by itself is funny to use

[still osprey]

I'm goated

[opaque sigil]

Slinger burst is pretty dumb and the fact that sns can do it on demand is pretty cringe

[exotic cedar]

Hi goated

[leaden delta]

i should make a new 5x5

[lavish apex]

when the steps are blasted

[leaden delta]

i dont have shit! but

[minor sparrow]

Oh that slinger burst lol. I don't care for the flinch or cancels, I just like having a free action without having to sheath

Which feels like sns' thing

[short crest]

I just realized why beast crest has no blue slots

[leaden drum]

ok

[orchid spruce]

ima try mio final boss again

[minor sparrow]

Cause it'd be cracked

[leaden drum]

is it hard?

[fiery burrow]

nice good luck

[hexed sonnet]

silksong is such an ass game idek why i play it so muhc

[short crest]

Injector Band.

[lavish apex]

yeah they are arguably

[orchid spruce]

doesn't seem so, pretty easy to get down to 40%ish HP, maybe it gets harder

[light swan]

well that is only the first phase

id say theyre the hardest boss in the game but die fast

[opaque sigil]

a boss getting harder below a certain health value? unheard of!

[short crest]

Any tips for ... TROBBIO?

[hexed sonnet]

TROBBIOOOO

[fiery burrow]

Yeah hardest boss in the game but not tooo tricky I don't think

[opaque sigil]

depending on how much you optimize it's either the hardest or one of the easier ones

[minor sparrow]

It actually gets the THK treatment, it gets easier

[ancient mortar]

And I hate joy and whimsy

What's the worst (popular) game you guys have played

[short crest]

💥🫯TROBBIO🫯💥

[exotic cedar]

Terraria

[lavish apex]

fortnite

[left crypt]

for trobbio use rea-

[exotic cedar]

I hate Terraria burn it kick it kill it

[graceful oyster]

Probably Terraria

[fiery burrow]

Also Terraria

[light swan]

even with an optimized setup their attacks are still physically the most difficult i feel

[minor sparrow]

I played 5 minutes of genshin

[hexed sonnet]

there should be a boss with

groal non hidden bench run back + lost lace difficulty + sands of karak platforming + putrified ducts enemies

[exotic cedar]

Terraria hate.... Let's go...

[graceful oyster]

Also I am not enjoying RW Watcher

[ancient mortar]

I tried the game once early on and blew someone's head off with a pistol then got bored

[light swan]

zelda botw and zelda totk

[opaque sigil]

they would be if they got to do any of them

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-meme-butler-paper-gif-14735317248936290425

[lavish apex]

actually probably genshin impact but that was like less than 2 hours

[exotic cedar]

Me seeing Terraria hate

[light swan]

yea

[ancient mortar]

I liked terraria but haven't played in years. I was in like middle school

[light swan]

but with the most optimized setup ever, atl east you get to see maybe 1 phase 2 attack

nevermind youre right

[exotic cedar]

I should try rain world after im done with ultrakill

[lavish apex]

you will be gotten

[opaque sigil]

do you

I sure haven't

[minor sparrow]

Genuine answer though? All battle royales I was never good at and never really enjoyed. I kinda just played them because my friends were playing them

[light swan]

you played on release patch i think

[hexed sonnet]

i saw someone say lost lace took them 4 hhours i think it might take me 8

[light swan]

the boss has been buffed since then, and op builds have been nerfed since then

[ancient mortar]

Have any of you guys played the shadow Mordor/shadow of war. That game had a lot of drama on release because of some shitass choices the publisher forced in but it's all been fixed now and the game is great.

[opaque sigil]

my hitless used stuff that afaik hasn't been changed unless bop or firefly or foolish ideal got axed

[orchid spruce]

ugh i beat it in like 10 tries, i just did it

that's pretty underwhelming

[light swan]

the boss still got buffed

[opaque sigil]

yes

[orchid spruce]

fewer tries than ||S&V||

[lavish apex]

same

[orchid spruce]

or honestly any other boss, tbh except a couple

thankfully, i didn't expect much this time

[light swan]

did you see phase 2

[ancient mortar]

Those games were so fun. Sad the studio got nuked. Now the nemesis system will rot and never be used because dorkass copyright

[orchid spruce]

i think so? it's not difficult

i did it with a 2hp build

[opaque sigil]

who's even the copyright holder

[light swan]

i know a friend who got to the phase transition and thought that was all of phase 2

[dusk wadi]

warner bros

[ancient mortar]

Nemesis system could make so many games better.

[orchid spruce]

well the ending cutscene is happening

so i think that's it

[opaque sigil]

oh wb

[fiery burrow]

tghere was a uhh wonderwoman game that had it right

or was that scrapped

[ancient mortar]

The patent for nemesis is now owned by Netflix

[dusk wadi]

stranger things nemesis system game pls

[opaque sigil]

well give it 10 years and it'll expire

[light swan]

the boss has the propblem of still dying too fast but definitely has the most difficult attacks and is definitely teh funnest

[ancient mortar]

Stranger things was really good until like the last season

[light swan]

ive spent way too long playing the boss for no reason

[fiery burrow]

do companies even enforce game patents

[lavish apex]

who are you guys talking about

[orchid spruce]

it's pretty fun

[ancient mortar]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

sometimes

[light swan]

the true final boss

[fiery burrow]

surely a random indie could use it and fly under the radar

[lavish apex]

oh yeah

[orchid spruce]

died a bit too fast, honestly way too fast for the funness to be appreciated

[opaque sigil]

I think I've seen games that do it

[ancient mortar]

Nah they'll release some slop game to make sure they don't have to give it up

[dusk wadi]

there already are

[orchid spruce]

i didn't really master anything and still won

[fiery burrow]

Yeah double the health on god

[ancient mortar]

I thought you couldn't patent game mechanics but fuck creativity I guess

[fiery burrow]

If you're up for a challenge modless without dodge is really fun

Took me a good few hours

[ancient mortar]

I need to make more modded expedition challenges for rain world

Or at least play more of them

[fiery burrow]

You can't say this and not name them

[opaque sigil]

I'm trying to remember if star renegades was actually a nemesis system

[dusk wadi]

the patent is for heiarchies and remembering of death so im sure u could weasel around it somehow

[ancient mortar]

Is this about mio

[covert bridge]

Anyone got tips for enraged conch fly 😭

[orchid spruce]

ah yeah the mio final boss, i thought it was a little too easy

[still osprey]

What's the requirements to unlock bellhart's glory besides the first bellhart donation

[meager fox]

hey silksong

[limber solstice]

Welp

Just finished abruptly a steel soul run because of a giant drapemite. hmhm. Feeling good right now.

That’s that

[opaque sigil]

it's a good level of difficulty if you don't hyperoptimize imo but the nature of the fight makes it easy to bully if you stack damage

[orchid spruce]

mio true ending spoiler, nine sols true ending spoiler ||well, the ending was really optimistic, i expected some nine sols ending kinda to end the suffering etc||

[covert bridge]

Wdym

[meager fox]

hello spoiler

[orchid spruce]

well, i guess time to finally read the 20 lore tablets

[light swan]

i never had to master the fight until i started doing chalelnges with it

and oh boy it was really damn fun to master

id have thought itd be better after the buff but i guess not

[lavish apex]

they buffed it?

[light swan]

more damage reduction on certain attacks, thats mainly it
also the phase transition is shorter

[still osprey]

Well, I think I did everything available in Act 1 🔥

[orchid spruce]

just increase the hp, i think

that's honestly way too low as of now

[opaque sigil]

increased damage reduction on some moves is good

[left crypt]

you have to have been to the citadel

[opaque sigil]

increasing the hp would make the fight less reasonable for people playing more casually

[covert bridge]

How’d u get rosary cannon

[light swan]

can yo utell the devs that 🥺 they dont listen to me

[limber solstice]

What boss are you talking about?

[light swan]

well tthey do, tahts why it was buffed in the first place

[orchid spruce]

[still osprey]

I have in fact not been to the citadel

[light swan]

the final boss of a different game

[lavish apex]

i think they should reduce the downtime between attacks a little bit
and also make it harder to skip the ||dark phase||

[still osprey]

I, didn't?

[covert bridge]

I mean silkshot

[opaque sigil]

they don't gotta balance the boss around strailpin builds

[left crypt]

thats in bilewater

[still osprey]

Forge Daughter

[opaque sigil]

or whatever the fuck

[left crypt]

which is accessible in act 1

[lavish apex]

i don't use that

[limber solstice]

Oh I see

[left crypt]

a small part of it at least

but you can get to weavenest mergwin in act 1

[covert bridge]

I’m in act 2 and don’t have half of those

[light swan]

im sure bwb and wrinkled towel werent using strailpin builds

[orchid spruce]

||dark phase has the easiest attacks|| mio spoiler

[opaque sigil]

I mean yeah it's downtime

[meager fox]

spoiler hi

[still osprey]

I think Sharpdart is the only thing I'm not supposed to have here

but, skips ! yay !

[lavish apex]

if you actually like have damage upgrades and use a mod set that does decent damage then it's extremely easy to miss the ||dark phase||

[light swan]

oh im glad you got to see that phase

[orchid spruce]

my build was pretty regular, just ||dodge = mark, less hp = more damage, third strike more damage||, that's it

[light swan]

exactly

[ancient mortar]

I felt most of the game was too easy but Id consider myself above average at the game so I'm not the ideal judge. The game would really benefit from a hard mode

Platforming was perfect difficulty though

[light swan]

youre definitely above average, idk about wrinkled towel

[ancient mortar]

No notes

[orchid spruce]

||i didn't know he had that little HP because I didn't use enemy hp mod for a while, then was surprised when i used it to experiment, then i just beat him with newfound confidence|| mio spoiler

[broken seal]

Make every single attack do 1 damage

[ancient mortar]

Even in normal difficulty the final boss needs more hp

[vivid belfry]

initial final boss took me like... 30 minutes of attempts? with one damage upgrade

[lavish apex]

we're talking about mio

[broken seal]

Ik

[light swan]

oh well at least the boss takes me more than a minute

it used to take 30-40 seconds or so

[ancient mortar]

My favorite fight in the game is the one that ||nukes your healthbar|| and that would ruin it

[light swan]

and sv still take me less than a minute

[lavish apex]

i also thought most of the bosses were in some way too easy

[covert bridge]

What if u guys talk about mio in a mio discord server

[light swan]

we do, we also talk about it here

[broken seal]

What if you shush

[graceful oyster]

One of my friends that just started Mio got ||striders|| before opening the undergrowth door (which implies no FU or ||Haven||)

[lavish apex]

even 2 of the 3 that actually are challenging in some way

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1457267326801154236/1487852369936122149/2026-03-28_22-30-35.gif

[light swan]

pretty reasonable tbh

[orchid spruce]

||Sol&Vin|| is pretty good, I think I like ||ANRA without Hands phase|| best though

[covert bridge]

What if u shush

[graceful oyster]

No the heck it is not

[ancient mortar]

I talk about it when it comes up. But if you want to discuss silksong you are welcome to bring up a topic. I usually talk about other games when silksong topics have stagnated

[broken seal]

No

[covert bridge]

No

[exotic cedar]

I love clicking on spoilers

[lavish apex]

waiter waiter more crest discourse slop

[orchid spruce]

I didn't like ||Sol&Vin third phase|| MIO

[graceful oyster]

Hairpin -> Stri is NOT normal

[vivid belfry]

wait I did rank celeste in my top 100

it's 36th

[light swan]

it isnt? 😭

[vivid belfry]

deserves a bump though

[graceful oyster]

W/o dodge or harv? Nah

Or glide

[lavish apex]

waiter waiter more randos asking what the sea of sorrow release date is

[ancient mortar]

I loved it

[light swan]

i guess its not

[ancient mortar]

Imperfect focus should be basekit btw

[light swan]

is glide actually normal before spider

[ancient mortar]

Sorry not sorry

[opaque sigil]

That’s the ||dodge window down right? Agree||

[orchid spruce]

[dusk wadi]

57th of zotetober

[graceful oyster]

You "need" it to do Found

[ancient mortar]

Dodge should be designed to be a last ditch effort when positioning and other methods fail. It shouldnt refill your energy either. That encourages a very unfun playstyle imo. I don't even hate parries but mios dodge is the least satisfying and most powerful parry in one of these games (for a game that's not parry centric like sekiro)

[opaque sigil]

Restoring your energy is a pretty important part of its functionality

[light swan]

mio's dodge is the 2nd best parry ive ever seen

[ancient mortar]

Hairpin dodges are way more fun and the energy management is pretty good.

[orchid spruce]

obviously behind nine sols parry

[graceful oyster]

If dodge was exactly how it is for platforming only and somehow got a heavy combat nerf that would be perfect

[light swan]

i love how unlike cross stitch the tradeoff is enough for it to actually not be the "best" option at all times

[graceful oyster]

Also shairpin is still way too strong

[light swan]

its not even necessarily the easiest option

[lavish apex]

i don't mind mio dodge tbh

[slim thorn]

What would it look like if you ranked your favourite mods of your favourite games

[light swan]

but then theres stroosting and counter measures and splodge, which i think are excellent

[dusk wadi]

whats with games and parrying these days

[vivid belfry]

I don't really play mods

[dusk wadi]

sekiro effect?

[orchid spruce]

parry games are becoming BIG nowadays

[opaque sigil]

Positional or hairpin dodging are always gonna be safer anyways I really just use the dodge for counter measures

[orchid spruce]

parry is everywhere

[light swan]

in general though, mio's parry is not as powerful either way because its not spammable and theres a delay

[ancient mortar]

I just think it giving energy is entirely uneeded. It's already easy enough to maintain your energy with harvester and standing on the ground.

[graceful oyster]

So real

[dusk wadi]

r we gonna see lots of qte turn based combat now that e33 came out

[light swan]

restoring energy is what makes it so cool esp in platforming

[vivid belfry]

does hairpin give iframes or something?

[opaque sigil]

Restoring energy is very needed

[light swan]

bro...............

[lavish apex]

it does

[bitter briar]

Are we Mio discussing in sk discussion again

[vivid belfry]

because i

[opaque sigil]

I’m crying

[vivid belfry]

lmfao

[light swan]

BRO...................................

[graceful oyster]

A TRUCKLOAD of them

[light swan]

BRORORBOBROBRO

[vivid belfry]

THAT'S how you're supposed to dodge that attack in the final boss

that's so funny

[light swan]

WHAT THE FUCK man

[orchid spruce]

What attack

[vivid belfry]

I THOUGHT IT WAS A POSITIONING TOOL

[opaque sigil]

It’s both 😭

[ancient mortar]

I just think the parry Iframes are way too generous for something that has no resource cost.

[vivid belfry]

AND IT DIDN'T WORK WHEN I USED IT ON THAT FUCKASS ENERGY CRYSTAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A WATERFALL

[orchid spruce]

There's no communication about ||hairpin iframes|| how are we supposed to know

[opaque sigil]

The iframes are a huge part of the reason why sharpened hairpin is so broken

[graceful oyster]

Crow

[lavish apex]

the ||slam with all 6 arms probably||

[light swan]

wait grover are you talking about the true final boss or the other final boss

[vivid belfry]

WHY IS THAT THERE

[steep jolt]

todays wordle is fun try it

[ancient mortar]

And it's just not super fun to use I wasnt enjoying the combat until I nearly stopped using parry. Despite how much it helped.

[vivid belfry]

the first one

[slim thorn]

But have you played a few peak ones like pale court or sjam?

[graceful oyster]

Grrr people are taking a tour through my office and it's so loud please shut up

[orchid spruce]

don't you just parry it

[ancient mortar]

Once I switched to hairpin dodges my fun in the game tripled

[lavish apex]

no

[light swan]

they all come down at different times so no

[vivid belfry]

no pretty much just tboi workshop, so I guess my top spot is fiend folio?

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/parry-it-parry-it-alicia-e33-gif-5018089436067363878

[orchid spruce]

well, honestly, i just tanked it. and that's with a 2HP build, tell you all the more about how squishy the boss was.

[light swan]

MIO SECOND FINAL BOSS SPOILERS

[steep jolt]

WHY DO I CLICK THESE NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[slim thorn]

Idk what is hairpin so every time i read yall i imagine parrying with a straight pin in silksong (wich i guess works for projectiles)

[orchid spruce]

nvm

[ancient mortar]

Hairpin is basically an omnidirectional clawline with many iframes

But it takes your whole energy bar to use

[light swan]

im ok with parry refiling energy because thats the only thing making it cool

[graceful oyster]

Crome lost his innocence

[vivid belfry]

I still thought this game was this good and I was playing it objectively incorrectly

[orchid spruce]

i think this could be A+ tier had it been longer

[light swan]

aside from cmeasures and splodge

[opaque sigil]

It’s also essential to its function for platforming

[graceful oyster]

Well it's definitely not over

[light swan]

exactly

[vivid belfry]

that's true

[orchid spruce]

so A tier, i suppose

[light swan]

man i fucking love this final boss bro

[lavish apex]

wait what attack

[vivid belfry]

||The extremely delayed grab||

[cursive torrent]

i'm praying for sea of sorrow soon so we can stop talking about mio slop

[light swan]

if its the command grab, you can parry that

[vivid belfry]

you can but the timing is a pain in the ass

[lavish apex]

oh you can just dodge that

[graceful oyster]

That's just a grab, that ain't command grab

[opaque sigil]

That you can dodge it doesn’t mean it’s what you’re supposed to do

[graceful oyster]

Command grab is vicious and brutal and raw

[lavish apex]

it's what i do

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-smash-loki-avengers-puny-gif-12082780

[light swan]

yea

[ancient mortar]

Yeah it's not a big deal. I think reducing the timing would largely fix all my issues. I just want it to be a more niche ability than it is. It's way more fun to use it as a last ditch effort when your positioning is off than a primary way of avoiding damage. How it stands currently it can be used to kinda face tank without thinking about positioning.

[light swan]

give me more true final boss content plzzz

[light swan]

yk that all your problems apply to almost every parry right

[opaque sigil]

Boss rush with up scaling 🙏

[leaden drum]

lowkey looks rlly easy

[magic night]

how hard was cogwork dancers for u guys

[leaden drum]

2/10

[light swan]

thats because im good at the game and you saw one attack

also why the fuck are you spoiling the final bsos for yourself

[slim thorn]

No idea but seems like it was easy

[leaden drum]

cuz i aint gono play it. i changed my mind

[lavish apex]

i think mio parry fills the same role as hk/silksong dash away pr much, since she doesn't actually have a good retreat option

[ancient mortar]

Yeah but mios has the issue of not costing any resources and the game not really being designed around parries. Cross stitch is similarly problematic but it has a resource cost. Also I just generally found dodge not satisfying to use, mainly sound design reasons.

[exotic cedar]

I spoiled everything for me

[orchid spruce]

major nine sols spoiler, major mio spoiler

[exotic cedar]

I click on every spoiler

[ancient mortar]

Imperfect focus largely fixed dodge for me enjoyment wise

[steep jolt]

if metroidvanias are your power, what are you without them

[leaden drum]

lost lace b? is this on difficulty or funness

[orchid spruce]

farming sim player

[lavish apex]

i'm not sure if this is tagged

[light swan]

cross stitch would be a good parry if silk economy was more relevant lategame and if it didnt deal batshit damage

[orchid spruce]

how good the boss is, in my opinion

[ancient mortar]

Cross stitch could cost a whole bind honestly

[light swan]

from a game design standpoint i do think mio's parry is really good, it just has all the problems as a normal one

[steep jolt]

yall are kinda stupid if you dont know if its tagged or not go to a different server/channel and come back to this one it will be tagged if its tagged if not its not

[ancient mortar]

Mios is probably my least favorite parry.

[light swan]

you dont really gain damage from using it and its riskier than other sources of iframes

[steep jolt]

if parries are your power what are you without them

[ancient mortar]

Actually that's false

[light swan]

compared to lets say nine sols parry'

[lavish apex]

i think cross stitch is fine as it is actually

[leaden drum]

you made the boss rlly easy tho. you dodged 2 attacks and i think u spam hit him the whole time? thats gotta be easy

[light swan]

and tbh, mio is kind of built around parries too

[ancient mortar]

My real least favorite parry is dark souls 1 but that games combat has a variety of issjes

[orchid spruce]

nine sols is built entirely around parry, mio is less so

[lavish apex]

i'd rather the rest of the silk skills get buffed than to nerf it like that

[light swan]

which is why nine sols is worse, because you have no choice but to use a bad mechanic

[ancient mortar]

I remember I had to swear off parries in dark souls because it ruins every boss design.

[orchid spruce]

you only need to parry 30% of the time in the first final boss

[light swan]

while if youre using a bad mechanic in mio youre sacrificing the good mechanics

ahem sure! sure!

[leaden drum]

no nine sols is so amazing.

[orchid spruce]

ikr

[leaden drum]

parrying is so satisfying

[ancient mortar]

I guess I just way more enjoyed dodging without them. I think they should also make parries interupt your combo as it makes you more damage efficient when it shouldn't.

I think mios parry id like with some small tweaks

[steep jolt]

wait do mio pogos do damage

[ancient mortar]

Pogos only for mobility, I used it against like one boss before I found a cooler way to dodge

[normal bramble]

Wow

[steep jolt]

mio is a 0/10 crucify the devs

[normal bramble]

If you upgrade hunters crest to max it becomes impossible to bind Eva in act 2

Because you’re short 1 singular memory locket

[lavish apex]

no it doesn't

[normal bramble]

Yes it does

[steep jolt]

who tf is binding her in act 2

[normal bramble]

The 3 remaining memory lockets all require silk soar

[light swan]

NINE SOLS FINAL BOSS SPOILERS
|| lets see here...

• slow starter > stand still and parry
• cross up combo > stand still and parry
• triple poke > stand still and parry
• talisman grab > jump and parry, better
• delayed slash > stand still and parry
• crimson downslash > UC, PEAK
• crimson ball > UC, PEAK ||

[steep jolt]

did you guys know quicksling was a tool or am i just stupid

[normal bramble]

Top of bell hart, by Karmelita, and the one in the slab

[light swan]

at least phase 2 and 3 are better

[lavish apex]

i have literally bound eva in act 2 with maxed hunter

[normal bramble]

Wait can you get the slab one without silk soar then?

[steep jolt]

bro why do i always click thewse

[orchid spruce]

||UC everything, UC everything, UC everything, UC everything||

[normal bramble]

You obviously need it for the other 2 but

[lavish apex]

yes

[steep jolt]

yes

[normal bramble]

Oh shit

Welp time to do the slab then bind Eva

[ancient mortar]

Nine sols combat really didn't speak to me. Surprisingly sekiro did but it really does well to mix things up. The variations of unparriable attacks that almost every boss had something of the sort required you to respond with some great moves

[normal bramble]

I’m trying to do everything in act 2

[faint wave]

how much dmg does sharp dart do (pure steel needle) with volt filament?

[normal bramble]

To have a save I can reset to practice the act 3 bosses

[steep jolt]

if song is your power what are you without it - silkrates

[normal bramble]

Also Eva sets your save

[orchid spruce]

There's a lot more you can do but that's clearly from the perspective of a veteran with 200+ hours on egging alone

[normal bramble]

Lame.

[leaden drum]

phase 1 is very easy tho

[normal bramble]

I was planning to save and quit to songclave but ig I’ll do the runback

[ancient mortar]

Honestly I feel most boss nohits would be better without cross stitch now. Makes you have to think about how you dodge each attack.

[leaden drum]

ik in 9 sols its just like a big guy with a sowrd that u parry

[rocky jolt]

3.25x + 3 ticks of 0.25x needle damage the 3 ticks arent affected by volt filament

[faint wave]

ty

[lavish apex]

i barely use cstitch on lost lace nohits

[rocky jolt]

its around 3.4x actually mb

[opaque sigil]

I’ve been sayin cross stitch is lame forever

[light swan]

NINE SOLS FINAL BOSS SPOILERS
||hopefully these will be good

• wind blades > UC (peak), stand still and parry, stand still and parry, either UC (peak) or stand still and parry
• upslash geyser > stand still and parry, UC (peak)
• spike combo > stand still and parry, parry again, UC (peak) ||
  better, still way too many "stand still and parry" tho

[faint wave]

so how much is that in pure dmg then?

[leaden drum]

u used nothing but nail in my first playthorugh

[normal bramble]

Icl cross stitch has gone down in my mind

Silk spear is my new #1 silk skill with sharp dart at 2

[ancient mortar]

I still like it. But I feel the better you are at the game the more it lessens your experience.

[rocky jolt]

it changes with how upgraded your needle is

[left crypt]

pale nails

[lavish apex]

like exclusively to get damage on her during the slam attack or the lunges

[faint wave]

most upgraded

[left crypt]

pail nails is op

[steep jolt]

ah yes, my favorite crest

[rocky jolt]

around like 80 damage or so

[steep jolt]

tf is wondrous crest at least make it convincing gemini 😭

[left crypt]

wanderer?

[steep jolt]

nah bro wondrous

[light swan]

NINE SOLS FINAL BOSS SPOILERS
||phase 3 time!

• judgement cut > stand still and parry 3 times, but you have a chance to UC too (peak)
• wind blade > edited so that you have more of a chance to just stand still and parry||
  doesnt change much

[slim thorn]

A4 when revisiting wanderer's location did u forgot about it?

[left crypt]

it may not even be wrong about the 141 part

crit + bracelet + flintslate is a lot of damage

[lavish apex]

what does UC mean

[light swan]

unbounded counter, my personal favorite parry oat

[steep jolt]

yea because team cherry would let us beat lost lace in like 20 hits

[left crypt]

crit

[light swan]

a majority of the attacks are still "stand still and parry", but theres more unbounded counters as time goes on even though theyre accompanied by a "stand still and parry" or two

[ancient mortar]

Eventually cross stitch becomes the only way you avoid attacks. For my nohits I deliberately tried to not use it always

[light swan]

see this is why i hate parries

why do i have to care about how to dodge attacks when i can just stand still and parry

[lavish apex]

cross stitch at least has a resource attached to it

[light swan]

even the UCs are just "stand still and hold parry" but at least theyre interesting

[slim thorn]

How many parries yall have in that game?

[light swan]

2, technically 3

[ancient mortar]

I think I like cross stitch more than mios parry only as it's more visually satisfying to land and has great sound design. It has very similar issues to mios parry, resource cost helps a lot to balance it (unless you are nohitting) but it also does damage making them largely equal in mechanical issues.

[light swan]

nine sols air parry has the slight distinction in that you dont need to be facing the boss

[steep jolt]

i calculated its 110 ish if i did the calculations right but idk if damage modefiers are calculated before or after the crit

[light swan]

which in some ways makes it worse

but some attacks can only be air parried which makes it better

[light swan]

i personally care more about the raw game design aspects compared to you but yea i do get wym

[orchid spruce]

wrong video

it captured google instead, wow, thanks xbox capture

[ancient mortar]

The only game with a good parry mechanic is sekiro.

[opaque sigil]

I prefer e33 gradient counters purely for style

[light swan]

from a raw game design standpoint, mio parry is definitely a lot more skillful and interesting than cross stitch

[steep jolt]

what about minecraft

[light swan]

when we get into parry buidls

[orchid spruce]

cross stich is braindead

[lavish apex]

i don't know if the double dash -> followup lost lace attack is punishable mid-attack for every crest without cross stitch

[light swan]

not only is the damage balanced but it revolves slingshot and bursting the targeted status which is much cooler

[lavish apex]

i think hunter just can't

[steep jolt]

cross stitch 🤡
sharpdart 🗿

[light swan]

slingshot in general is really cool so parry interactions with slingshot is peak

[ancient mortar]

Yeah a lot of my enjoyment is from sound design as it makes combat feel more satisfying with the auditory feedback each action gives. I think silksong performs very well in that regard.

[slender juniper]

What

[versed current]

Upcoming silksong dlc is for confirmed to be in a game

[lavish apex]

eye bleeding orange

[steep jolt]

holy shit

[ancient mortar]

Honestly I'm very curious what youd think of everhoods combat system @light swan it's not really easily comparable to any game but it's my all time favorite. Sadly one of the mechanics is such a massive spoiler I can't really explain the system without giving stuff away

[versed current]

Phew thanks for letting us know

[orchid spruce]

Wait not this video neither

[light swan]

me when every attack is just "stand still and parry"

[orchid spruce]

The good video also captured Google, what the fuck is wrong with you

[steep jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405110355977306143/1477692117349568583/Messenger_creation_921027830880885.gif

[light swan]

man what happened to this

[steep jolt]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

wait is that real

[light swan]

at least in mio i CAN think abotu the most optimal way to dodge attacks

[ancient mortar]

What's that a screenshot of

[steep jolt]

i need some time to handle this

[light swan]

your message

[orchid spruce]

let me try to sell you nine sols combat one last time

hopefully xbox capture cooperates

[ancient mortar]

Im confused Abt the context it's being used lol. Did I say something that contradicts that

[cursive torrent]

lovely day to have eyes

[wraith python]

Good one

Thats fake right..?

[steep jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061026554634850375/1292298921447522405/carrot-forward.gif

[versed current]

Ik im prob stupid
But is this real
If so pls link

[cursive torrent]

chat we can not be serious about this

[rocky jolt]

what about that would be real bruh

[cursive torrent]

it's obviouslt y fake

[versed current]

Uh
Twitter

[slender juniper]

Are we deadass

[versed current]

No not really

[slender juniper]

[light swan]

for example
||slingshot > burst it with second attack > parry, activate counter measures > thrust to burst the targeted status
slingshot > shairpin to burst targeted instead of parry > parry, activate counter measures > shairpin again to burst targeted status||
even tho parries dodge everything, the way you parry still matters as you optimize

MIO TRUE FINAL BOSS SPOILERS

[steep jolt]

my ass is alive

[light swan]

wrinkled towel sent an eggnong video where every single attack was dodged by standing still and parrying

[versed current]

Any sentence i type with pls in it is sarcastic

[candid kayak]

it says sea of sorrow is delayed indefinitely, therefore it is meme

[light swan]

like. EVERY single attack. dodged the EXACT same way

[ancient mortar]

Oh. Yeah I didn't care for mine sols combat.

[candid kayak]

lol

[light swan]

which contradicts your message, which i agree with

[candid kayak]

uhh I mean uhh
it's real, definitely

[versed current]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-shocked-gif-9885796698302419555

[light swan]

i bet yall didnt see the split second sails either

[steep jolt]

i am steve but what if im not pa pa pa pa p a p eli eli eli gilliey i love apples uyum yum yum yum yum oh ok thats it bie guiues

[orchid spruce]

wrong video i'm about to send something else

[light swan]

sailing before the last parry to refresh it so that i could get the bop bonus on the shairpin

[fiery burrow]

Wilds SNS parry 🙏

[dusk wadi]

go back to watching burnt peanut guy

[light swan]

more depth about how you use parries

[ancient mortar]

As I've said I think sekiro is the only super parry focused game I like. And that's because it deliberately includes ways to mix things up and lots of unparriable attacks.

[latent terrace]

How do people master the cross stitch silk ability?

[opaque sigil]

I mean that's just perfect guarding

[left crypt]

skill

[candid kayak]

it's fake, the actual post says sea of sorrow is cancelled

[opaque sigil]

wilds does have some cool parries with offset attacks though

[latent terrace]

I always use silkspear as my silk ability

[ancient mortar]

Bind it to a comfortable key and use it right before you get hit. Timings fairly generous if you are confident. The Iframes start instantly so don't worry about starting too late

[still osprey]

How could this be real when Sea of Sorrow is literally coming out tomorrow

[versed gorge]

What 😭

[left crypt]

pale nails main whenever possible

[candid kayak]

TRUE

[steep jolt]

i dont like peanuts

[fiery burrow]

IG had some funky ones I liked to play around with