sk-discussion

[light swan]

@vivid belfry did you enjoy the game or the final boss

[lavish apex]

no i don't????

[vivid belfry]

yes, final boss was a colossal pain in the ass before I realized it was the final boss and then I was like, "alright, that's fair"

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/luke-skywalker-star-wars-gif-11796556

[lavish apex]

do you mean coral tower?

[light swan]

pain in the ass as in it was difficult or smth else

[hardy tangle]

yeah nevermind she can resist it

[vivid belfry]

difficulty and it's hard to read its attacks when you're attacking it

[light swan]

ah

[lavish apex]

i agree actually

[hardy tangle]

i just assumed she was on the verge of insanity from the way she acts

[lavish apex]

i've nohit it a few times and that is kind of an issue

i'm not sure how they would improve that witbout completely redesigning the visuals for mio's attacks though

[ancient mortar]

Oh blebles did you see my nohit of mios final boss?

[lavish apex]

the modless one right?

that was pretty good

[ancient mortar]

Not completely modless I used self awareness

[light swan]

blebbles did you see the full version of the final boss theme

that definitely pushes the final boss theme up a lot for me

[lavish apex]

i did

i responded after you posted it kinda

[tight viper]

You've never seen this area?

Everyone know the Desert of the Sand King

[lavish apex]

oh it's a gag

got it

[tight viper]

no it's a desert

[light swan]

oh did i not see

nvm im just a dumbass who forgot LOL

[exotic dome]

bro thought he could replace last oasis with a fake area

[lavish apex]

the whole talking about how parts of the soundtrack aren't uploaded thing

[tight viper]

I haven't bought that map in this playthrough yet

[hardy tangle]

worse than bileater ⁉️

[ancient mortar]

I think the region sucked unfortunately. The pharaohs curse is way more miserable than the other cursed crest.

[rocky jolt]

lmao what made up area is this

[lavish apex]

i realized there are parts of where you come to die that aren't there during my second playthrough also

[ancient mortar]

I thought that area was gonna be harder but it was mostly just a walking sim.

[lavish apex]

what

[light swan]

there IS???

[light swan]

where YOU come to die is different from where THEY come to die

[ancient mortar]

Oh mb

[lavish apex]

yeah

[tight viper]

Cleopaper Wasp was a poorly written character imo

[heady iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/301227786658381825/1450314950533713971/image.png?ex=69cb328d&is=69c9e10d&hm=c5faabb87ca00d2a147311c7d93d514a1971bda57afa4292c4ea03ed3d83c06c&

[ancient mortar]

Also every enemy inflicting mummy rot was stupid af

[lavish apex]

i'm talking about (MIO) ||the crucible||

[ancient mortar]

Oooh

[tight viper]

Is that Wisp Thicket

[ancient mortar]

I liked that area

[vivid belfry]

anyway, completing the game has not affected my ranking

nothing against you MIO, it's just really fucking hard to follow up slay the princess 2

[ancient mortar]

Lol yeah I played mio after outer wilds so I understand that

[lavish apex]

i know it's crazy because the uploaded track is already almost 9 fucking minutes long

[light swan]

which one is slay the princess 2

[ancient mortar]

God I phrased that poorly

[lavish apex]

scarlet hollow

not actually slay the princess 2 i think but it's by the same studio

[vivid belfry]

also teeechnically it was in early access before slay the princess but STP got finished first

[lavish apex]

the only other game besides mio i've played for the first time this year is transistor

that game is kinda weird

[toxic glacier]

i just got cling grip in silksong and im pretty new anyone got any tips

[daring basin]

bilewater

[ancient mortar]

I don't know what to play next honestly

[ancient mortar]

I've played mio and outer wilds this year. Outside of games I've already played

[lavish apex]

afterimage is probably what i'm doing after the nier automata replay

[daring basin]

MIO MENTIONED YOOOO HEHENYSJWYEJSHGEJS

[lavish apex]

maybe furi instead though idk

[ancient mortar]

I don't think I could play another metroidvania for a while I'm gonna burn myself out on the genre

[vivid belfry]

I can feel the parasite taking over my limbs

[ancient mortar]

It's been the topic on and off very often here

[toxic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hollow-knight-hornet-gif-2304813690984408828

[vast grove]

hornet maid

[lavish apex]

no gif embeds for you

[subtle lynx]

balatro

[vivid belfry]

this is next on my to do list

[lavish apex]

point and laugh

[slim thorn]

i feel that you could change the channel name to mio-discussion and it would seem right

[light swan]

i have too many games on my list

[daring basin]

oh trust me I know (I started a MIO uproar a few months back)

[ancient mortar]

Everyone still needs to play everhood

[exotic dome]

i have 75 unplayed games on steam

[daring basin]

To Mandela County with you

[earnest drift]

myla shouldn’t have been in the game

[subtle lynx]

mio started being a real game only some days ago because skurry played it

[lavish apex]

i'll play everhood once it goes on sale on switch

[opaque sigil]

play uh blue prince

[light swan]

anyway MIO BOSS SPOILERS

debs is so fun man, even with 0 abilities or mods holy shit

[light swan]

for reference the uproar was spoiling the final boss outside of tags

[ancient mortar]

Probably my fourth favorite boss

[daring basin]

IT WAS A ACCIDENT

[vivid belfry]

the only boss I've had particular distaste for is ||The fertilizer|| whose name I can't remember

[barren hare]

midwater

[vivid belfry]

and it wasn't THAT bad

[ancient mortar]

I've already killed green prince I don't know what a change in color would do for me. /J

[lavish apex]

i wish i wasn't the only nier fan in this server

well
of regulars in this chat

[subtle lynx]

I wish I wasn't the only silksong fan in this server

[light swan]

that boss is so much funner when you have like very little abilities or damage

[opaque sigil]

I couldn't even get through automata

[vivid belfry]

nothing I've seen in MIO even approaches my benchmark for shitty boss fights: Rogue Legacy

[slim thorn]

have you checked many of those arent a bunch of valve stuff that appears when selecting that filter?

[vivid belfry]

I think nier automata is Okay

[lavish apex]

how far did you get?

[light swan]

my problem with the boss is that theres a lot of time spent dodging and not attacking

[exotic dome]

no i have a category for my backlog

[opaque sigil]

like part of the way into the 9s playthrough

[ancient mortar]

What's on your backlog

[lavish apex]

ok yeah that's fair.

definitely the sloggiest part of the game

[slender juniper]

Guys nine sols or silksong

[ancient mortar]

The worst video game bosses I've ever fought were probably in dark souls 1

[light swan]

nine sols

[lavish apex]

i think on this replay the biggest issue i'm identifying is that there are very few particularly compelling story beats until like. almost the end of route b

[ancient mortar]

I liked skong better but I didn't finish nine sols

[lavish apex]

which also just has worse gameplay than route a

[ancient mortar]

Didn't captivate me gameplay wise. Story was very interesting tho

[lavish apex]

so a lot of people are understandably filtered

[silk monolith]

idk how much ive done nine sols its good so far tho

[vivid belfry]

Nine Sols is fuckin awesome

it might have my favorite protagonist ever written

[lavish apex]

i need to play nine sols so bad

[slender juniper]

Nine sols combat is peak, except bows maybe they're just the red tools of nine sols

[ancient mortar]

I can't decide who my favorite protagonist ever is.

[silk monolith]

I only got 1 of the sol chips idk what the official word is, how far into the story is that

[exotic dome]

2 batman games, baldurs gate 3, after image, bioshock 1-2, nine sols, dead cells, dead space 2-3, dmc4-5, disco elysium (started it but havent finished it), dishonored 2, elden ring, everhood, laika, kingdom two crowns, life is strange, mafia 2-3, nier, outer wilds, rain world, entirety of resident evil, and uhh more

[vivid belfry]

I'll give you a hint

[light swan]

bro i always forget period cramps give me damage upgrades

[silk monolith]

actually nvm dont

[lavish apex]

mine is between Shulk Xenoblademan, 9s, and zagreus

[light swan]

my favorite protagonist is very very VERY obvious

[silk monolith]

I js cant get past them crimson laser things

[light swan]

actuallly hm

[slender juniper]

Let me guess keeper?

[vivid belfry]

I like Mio as a character from what I was able to glean, but that was very little

[light swan]

nope

[silk monolith]

mines either hornet or melinoe

[lavish apex]

hornet is sick

[slender juniper]

Why melinoe

[silk monolith]

I like her

[lavish apex]

i don't like melinoe very much

[opaque sigil]

I've got a few candidates, the hearthian, ike and micaiah from fe10, stocke from radiant historia

[slender juniper]

Actually I play hades 2 but I'm a victim of the "skips all dialogue"

[light swan]

i might like mio more than noah

[silk monolith]

😭😭

[lavish apex]

radiant dawn ike is interesting

[slender juniper]

Can you blame me

[light swan]

is that valid

[lavish apex]

from what i've heard

[silk monolith]

niko bellic

[slender juniper]

I play hades 2 with YouTube videos in the background

[exotic dome]

solid pick ngl

[slender juniper]

How do I focus on the dialogue bruh

[lavish apex]

i haven't played the game because nintendo hates letting people play games from that era but i want to

[silk monolith]

I did thst once I reached epilogue and when running fresh file

[ancient mortar]

My favorite protags are brad from Lisa the painful, Alex and Joel from Lisa the pointless, hornet, laika from laika aged through blood. Zero from katana zero, jacket from hotline Miami, and Kris from deltarune. Off the top of my head.

[lavish apex]

kris is peak

[silk monolith]

Jason brody is also fun

[light swan]

laika is our goat

[heady iron]

Mine is Javik

[vivid belfry]

if Ciconia ever gets finished, Miyao Mitake is dunking on Yi a hundred times over

he's got so much shit going on

https://tenor.com/view/ciconia-miyao-people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-when-they-cry-phase-2-gif-3123889320872849215

[ancient mortar]

I'd reccomend outer wilds as the next stop, or everhood.

[silk monolith]

madeline is peak protagonist fr

[lavish apex]

edelgard would be up there but she's kinda worse on the route she's the protagonist of

so instead i'd take dimitri

[heady iron]

Wait we're talking protags

[lavish apex]

yeah

[silk monolith]

isaac

[heady iron]

Maybe Isaac Clarke for me

[exotic dome]

i might play everhood i have it downloaded

[opaque sigil]

dimitri is... rough. 3h writing is not great

[vivid belfry]

Everhood is great and Everhood 2 is great if you're me

[lavish apex]

also kiu pit

[lavish apex]

it could use some work for sure. hopefully fw learns from the mistakes it made

[exotic dome]

also @ancient mortar is your bio a signalis reference?

[ancient mortar]

I love laika shes so cool. Badass without falling into tropes that make badass characters feel generic. Great dialogue, great motivations and flaws, very well written.

[silk monolith]

dude what about Leon kennedy

[ancient mortar]

Well that's not my bio but yeah the pronouns section is a Signalis reference

[opaque sigil]

I'm hoping against hope it's not a route split but it probably is. I don't really play fe for the story for the most part I just hope they fix the sloppy 3h mechanics

[exotic dome]

thats cool

i finished it today its a really good game

[ancient mortar]

Reminds me LSTR-512 is also one of my favorite all time protags.

[lavish apex]

i think the supports and the ideas and themes behind the core conflict in 3h are very cool even if the execution of the individual routes is pretty sloppy in some areas

[ancient mortar]

It's a great game, the world building is incredible. What ending did you get?

[opaque sigil]

3h wants to be genealogy of the holy war very badly

[slender juniper]

You mean signaslop

[exotic dome]

promise ending

[lavish apex]

i don't like fe4

[ancient mortar]

I should put an outer wilds quote in my bio perhaps

[slender juniper]

Signalis is so trash bruh the dialogue sucks the gameplay is of a mobile games and the combat is extremely mid

[exotic dome]

tbh story was confusing but compelling at the same time. maybe that's intended

[opaque sigil]

it's an interesting game there are definitely pros and cons to its approach

[slender juniper]

(I never played signalis I just love to ragebait)

[ancient mortar]

Yeah you didn't have to tell us it was bait lol

[lavish apex]

signalis is interesting to me on pure vibes

knowing very little about its actual content other than that it's survival horror

[exotic dome]

yeah its aesthetics is what captivated me at first

[opaque sigil]

I should play signalis

[slender juniper]

Silksong is extremely mid
1)female mc,
2)Mid as fuck combat
3) unbalanced tools and crests
4)reaper
5)woke,who the fuck is turning the bugs gay

3/10 never playing again

[light swan]

washing machine without parry is lowkey really hard cuz of the lasers :(

[exotic dome]

i like silksong not because of its art design, music, lore, exploration, combat or movement i like it because it's an anticapitalist woke propaganda

[ancient mortar]

I got memory. Yeah the story is intentionally very surreal and hard to comprehend. I think it manages to land it because of the strong emotional core of the story, but piecing together the how and why of the disparate pieces makes it very replayable. There's so much foreshadowing and clues as to what's really happening in the background.

[slender juniper]

Why are you fighting your Washing machine and why is shooting lasers

[light swan]

i love the idea of building my own arena tho

[slender juniper]

Answer me.

[light swan]

its lowkey difficult to do without parry tho, and not much control over

[light swan]

nah

[vivid belfry]

we can't be talking about thematically rich narratives in this chat it's gonna make me go back to my bad habit

[exotic dome]

does anything become different in second playthrough

[ancient mortar]

It's really brilliant, especially if you like sci Fi worldbuilding and survival horrors like re and silent hill. Great puzzles great story and art. And the setting stuck with me long after I played it. There's so many brilliant concepts that make the world feel alive. It competes with ow for my favorite sci Fi story.

[ancient mortar]

Im not sure, there's a lot of details that are wildly recontextualized but I don't remember if anything changes directly.

[lavish apex]

the umineko is breaching containment

[exotic dome]

i haven't watvhed the other endings yet maybe i'll replay it

[ancient mortar]

There's also a secret ending that's nigh impossible to get.

[rough anvil]

Hi guysssssssssss

[ancient mortar]

It was a big puzzle the community had to solve

[vivid belfry]

umineko is not a bad habit

umineko is pretty universally well regarded by anyone who can be fucked to read it

[ancient mortar]

I've been considering going back for a challenge run playthrough.

[frozen meadow]

i really wish it wasn't cut

[exotic dome]

it was a different puzzle? thats cool

[lavish apex]

what's the bad habit then

[weary sorrel]

275 apples

[ancient mortar]

Not sure what you mean

[exotic dome]

i mean it's cool that they added a difficult secret puzzle that leads to a secret ending

[ancient mortar]

Oh yeah sorry I got confused by your wording

[opaque sigil]

No matter how much you glaze this I CANNOT have this shit popping up to my steam friends

[ancient mortar]

But yeah it's neat it's kinda a bummer how it's pretty much impossible to solve without a guide but it's cool to have one final secret that the community has to solve, wish I was there for the solving process

[light swan]

im severely skissuing rn

[lavish apex]

oh right that

[vivid belfry]

just hide it
(IS WHAT I WOULD SAY)

I CAN'T BE RECOMMENDING THIS SHIT TO PEOPLE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT FUCKING DESTROYS YOUR MIND

[ancient mortar]

I still need to finish coral tower 1 mask no tools

[opaque sigil]

ok but blue prince also does that and I recommend that just fine

[lavish apex]

what does roguelike puzzle game even mean

are there time limits?

[vivid belfry]

you need to be in a very specific mood and that mood is: I want to feel like nothing will ever be okay again

[opaque sigil]

there's not a time limit

[exotic dome]

i didnt understand how blue prince is meant to be played

[lavish apex]

this is not very appealing

[opaque sigil]

by people with latent mental illness mostly attentively

[vivid belfry]

it's a horror tragedy, extremely heavy on the tragedy

[ancient mortar]

@exotic dome there is actually second playthrough exclusive content

[vivid belfry]

some The Mist shit

some The Road shit

[ancient mortar]

It's just very hidden

[heavy arch]

yo where do i go, someone plz help

[ancient mortar]

Left and down then back around. Try to get down the big tall room

[light swan]

left

[hardy tangle]

ok right left then down then up then down again then right

[opaque sigil]

it can't be THAT bad

[lavish apex]

i am contemplating watching a playthrough on yt

[exotic dome]

i might just replay it to get another ending. not sure how tho

also the credits music is fantastic

[opaque sigil]

of blue prince?

[exotic dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLQ6Qv393mw

[lavish apex]

no the uh
giantess dating sim that grover really likes

[heavy arch]

can someone draw the path from the bench above the cauldron

[vivid belfry]

I honest to god have not had a piece of media ruin my entire week in quite the same way

[lavish apex]

me with xenoblade 3

[opaque sigil]

how long is it

[ancient mortar]

It has some great osts. I like promise and train ride a lot. Also cigarette wife which is a wild name for a song.

[light swan]

huh

[opaque sigil]

the ending

[exotic dome]

it was more enjoyable and had more interesting horror elements than silent hill for me

[lavish apex]

the ending.

[opaque sigil]

allat for future redeemed to totally undo it

[exotic dome]

lol

[heavy arch]

how do i go farther down from here

[vivid belfry]

3 hours

[lavish apex]

that game actually fucked my brain up

i have not recovered
nothing has given me closure

[opaque sigil]

maybe I'll play it tomorrow

[light swan]

whyd it fuck your brain up 😭

[opaque sigil]

future redeemed 😭

[lavish apex]

i hate it so much because i loved it so much

[vivid belfry]

it's a delicate line to walk, being extremely bleak and mean

[light swan]

i dont get it what did fr undo

[vivid belfry]

because it's easy to come off as unredemptive and not worth thinking about

[opaque sigil]

the ending, the worlds just blinked back together

[heavy arch]

yo someone help bro

[lavish apex]

that doesn't even help

[queen acorn]

hi whats up

[heavy arch]

#sk-discussion message SOMEONE PLZ HELP

[heavy arch]

#sk-discussion message

im trya get clawline btw

[queen acorn]

are you on the left or right

of the big location

[heavy arch]

of cauldron?, check my map

[queen acorn]

whats a cauldron bro

[heavy arch]

the cauldron

[opaque sigil]

calderon? mio reference?

[heavy arch]

is it not called the cauldron

[lavish apex]

dude no way

[queen acorn]

like the big open area?

[light swan]

spoilers + huh 😭 i dont see how that undid anything

[heavy arch]

ya

[queen acorn]

are you in it or

[heavy arch]

left of it

[graceful cairn]

what thing

[light swan]

the whole point was to ||show that they succeeeded, not undoing anything||

[heavy arch]

just look at my map bro

[queen acorn]

where the vents are?

i on have the maps memorized bro

[heavy arch]

uh yea

[queen acorn]

uhhh

was there a lever at any point

[lavish apex]

HUGE XENOBLADE 3 SPOILERS ||everyone is dead and it was all a dream anyway who cares fuck you||

[opaque sigil]

noah like || hears the music and the worlds get rejoined all the shit that happened isn't like gone forever||

[lavish apex]

get themes and such'd

[graceful cairn]

chainsaw man type shit

[vivid belfry]

SAEKO

[graceful cairn]

never heard of it

[queen acorn]

goodbye hollow knight, ..., oh uh because your a knight thats hollow

[vivid belfry]

most people haven't

[light swan]

||yea, all that shit that happened was never gone forever in the first place wdym||

[opaque sigil]

.

[lavish apex]

i wish i loved 3

[opaque sigil]

shit kinda just turned out fine in the end

[lavish apex]

so badly

i did love so many parts of it but god everything after the ||n fight in chapter 6|| pisses me off so much

[opaque sigil]

the only games to like ruin my week with its ending (in a good way) were e33 and outer wilds

[tight viper]

Finally reached Act 3, do I have all the maps?

[opaque sigil]

missing the King's Retreat

[weary gorge]

You don't have the map for Chicago yet

[light swan]

i am even more confused now holy shit 😭

[tight viper]

I don't have the dlc

[queen acorn]

wheres phalroom bay??

[tight viper]

I'll search for that area next

[weary gorge]

Be careful in Chicago by the way, it's balanced in an odd way. It's weirdly heavy on guns

[light swan]

||lots of people think "it was all a dream and none of that mattered" but the ending flute literally proved that it did, as well as future redeemed's ending, it was never "gone forever"|| XENOBLADE 3 SPOILERS

[tight viper]

Pharloom Bay was cut from the game it's not real

[opaque sigil]

I think blebbles is under that impression

[lavish apex]

I KNOW

[light swan]

but youre not blebbles

[queen acorn]

pharloom bay is real pharloom bay is real pharloom bay is real

[lavish apex]

BUT IT STILL FEELS THAT WAY

[light swan]

i already know blebbles thinks that and that i disagree

[opaque sigil]

yeah I'm disagreeing with blebbles

I'm lost

[weary gorge]

You guys ever listen to this one?

[queen acorn]

hk kazoo playlist

[light swan]

so what are you upset about regarding xc3's ending then 😭

[opaque sigil]

nothing?

[weary gorge]

wow this is peak

[exotic dome]

you have all the maps only for act 3. you don't have all of them

[weary gorge]

Thank you

[light swan]

oh i thought you were also expressing dissent about xc3's ending

[queen acorn]

yep

[vivid belfry]

I'M BACK IN THE FUCKING BUILDING AGAIN

[opaque sigil]

are you ok

[vivid belfry]

I'm trying to grab the last few achievements I have left and it's just as wretched as when I left it

elevated heart rate, nausea, sweating

[lavish apex]

xc3 ||those stupid fucking scenes with the keves kids are the bane of my existence||

[vivid belfry]

I'll never be safe

[lavish apex]

i'm watching a review

why did they call this shit giantess dating sim

[exotic dome]

WHAT are you playing

[opaque sigil]

😭

[vivid belfry]

the only horror game that actually scares me

[queen acorn]

tf evil game u playin

[exotic dome]

evil game 1

[lavish apex]

it's crazy that it just isn't a dating sim

[exotic dome]

slime rancher

[vivid belfry]

the only dating sim I've played is Scarlet Hollow

which kicks ass

[light swan]

what specifically was wrong with them again

[graceful cairn]

we just making anything bro

[light swan]

if anything it just proves more that ||everything wasnt just a dream||

[vivid belfry]

do not get me started

[lavish apex]

||the fact that the clear implication is that everyone is dead||

[queen acorn]

yall hate but this is peak

[vivid belfry]

I've written 11,000 words of analysis on this game's narrative

[opaque sigil]

ok but like do I actually have to play it

[vivid belfry]

if you want to get hurt real bad, then yes

if you do not want to get hurt real bad, skip this one

[exotic dome]

it can't be that scary 😭

[vivid belfry]

this is a serious warning

[lavish apex]

is it like. gory?

[vivid belfry]

no

gore isn't scary

(well...)

there was one scene in Higurashi where the gore really got to me

[wind mulch]

which game

[vivid belfry]

scroll up

I can't believe this is happening again

I have the cheese touch

[wind mulch]

oh its actually giantess dating sim sorry i thought you were joking lol

[light swan]

washing machine just went up a couple tiers

[vivid belfry]

I do not joke

[lavish apex]

in his defense i've looked it up and it is not a dating sim

[wind mulch]

i was making sure

[opaque sigil]

I kind of don't but at the same time all the warnings are just making me more curious

[lavish apex]

it's psychological horror

[graceful cairn]

duuuude

[light swan]

if a dating sim wasnt just a dating sim id be surprised tbh

[vivid belfry]

it's still a fundamentally incomplete reading

[wind mulch]

what could giantess dating sim possibly be about that it requires an 11,000 word analysis

[exotic dome]

son 😭

[lavish apex]

fucked up shit apparently

[light swan]

i just fucking died while going back from a boss

is it wochienuinely over for me

[earnest drift]

i think act 3's callbacks to the previous game are generally well implemented and natural

[graceful cairn]

this cannot be that deep 😭

[light swan]

it is always that deep

dont judge books by covers

[vivid belfry]

listen, I, more than anybody, want to believe that I hallucinated all that bullshit about themes and character analysis

but I read the developer's blog

it was all intentional

[lavish apex]

😭

[light swan]

grover its ok just know that i never doubted you once

[exotic dome]

i lowkey wanna play it now

[vivid belfry]

no, you SHOULD doubt me, because that's the entire point of the goddamn game

[graceful cairn]

this is definitely going on my list of games to never play with how much your saying itll kill your mental health 😭

[vivid belfry]

it's all about deceit and revelation

that's why the title is lying to you

[light swan]

ill never doubt you grover

[wind mulch]

i think ur having a prolonged psychotic episode

[vivid belfry]

there is a light at the end of the tunnel but it took me a good long while to come away with something positive

[quartz cave]

Hi chat are we blindly trusting grover

[opaque sigil]

blindly trusting grover tends to work

[light swan]

so do you like the game or not

[quartz cave]

Oh so mightful grover with your wisefulness or whatever

Do tell, is it wilson wednesday

[vivid belfry]

uhhhh define like

I definitely don't have fun playing it

[light swan]

do you think its a good game

[vivid belfry]

yes definitely

I think it's the second best game ever made

[light swan]

alr awesome

[vivid belfry]

also the OST is fucking fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpd8Mjp2WM

[wind mulch]

what masterpiece could have possibly beat out the esteemed giantess dating sim for first place

[vivid belfry]

Umineko

if you know, you know

[quartz cave]

Ever so wise grover didnt answer chat what does this mean to the wilson wednesday community

[wind mulch]

i dont know ball im afraid

ill look into it

[vivid belfry]

it's sunday

[vivid belfry]

okay well you're not gonna get far because Umineko is 100 hours long

and no plot synopsis can make you understand it

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explosion-earth-flames-gif-8887248

[lavish apex]

does umineko have like even 1 interactable element

[opaque sigil]

Bruh

[vivid belfry]

yes, hilariously, at the very last minute

[exotic dome]

one of my friends has 114 hours in this game im crying

[exotic dome]

it has apparently

[vivid belfry]

it is an entirely linear narrative and then at the 90 hour mark they make you engage in gameplay

[light swan]

laceposting & hunterposting before i leave

the ultimate case of pressing random buttons and looking cool

[lavish apex]

the dash down into the fog is great

[light swan]

the fog is my greatest enemy

[exotic dome]

its part of the experience

[lavish apex]

100 hour vn is kind of insane

[exotic dome]

it gets good after 99.9 hours trust

[lavish apex]

mioheads does The Chase count as a boss theme

[vivid belfry]

hornet the fog is coming

[opaque sigil]

Sure

I need to get people to play blue prince

[exotic dome]

it has a boss bar!

[lavish apex]

when are they gonna make red prince

[opaque sigil]

They already did it’s in the game

[warped cloak]

sea of sorrow when

[graceful cairn]

tomorrow

[lavish apex]

what about yellow prince

[opaque sigil]

Sort of in

[lavish apex]

cyan prince

[quartz cave]

Are the princes gay

[opaque sigil]

That one isn’t

Who knows

[lavish apex]

is there a green prince in blue prince

[opaque sigil]

Sort of

[warped cloak]

i thought it's today-

[exotic dome]

it's always tomorrow

[warped cloak]

😢

[light swan]

it plays during platforming

[celest cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1462340375858384949/1488035808803033318/togif.gif

[lavish apex]

but the boss health bar

[opaque sigil]

||is xerneas not a boss just because there’s a part where you’re platforming?||

[light swan]

there isn’t, youre still dodging attacks

the thing is that tje chase plays after the second sawshort, before you meet the so long

and it plays on the way down from the firsy to second level

which i cant classify as fighting or opposing a boss

if it started when you met the boss then i could understand

[light swan]

sure slong could be a boss but the theme isnt specifically a boss theme

[graceful oyster]

Chase is hard to posit

It has different zonal triggers

[lavish apex]

that and where you come to die flip back and forth as my favorite track

[graceful oyster]

I'd say because Slong is a boss, Chase is a boss theme

[light swan]

are there any boss themes that play outside of the boss

[graceful oyster]

Yeah, Chase

[graceful cairn]

is the choir a boss theme

[graceful oyster]

[graceful cairn]

kinda same thing right

[light swan]

is that it

[graceful oyster]

It plays on a boss so yes

[lavish apex]

it's used for second sentinel so yes

[graceful oyster]

Otherwise it wouldn't be

[exotic dome]

the choir is used for second snetinel

[graceful cairn]

so by that logic sawlongs theme is also a boss theme

problem solved chat

[light swan]

sawlengthy

[exotic dome]

gimmick boss is still a boss

[light swan]

fair

me when my saw is so long i need to chase it

[exotic dome]

fact: 99% of long saws step on multiple bombs and die right before catching their prey

[lavish apex]

what beef did it even have with mio man

[light swan]

check out this short clutch

[opaque sigil]

Nacre harvesting or some shit maybe iunno

[exotic dome]

just killing rats for the love of the game ☝️

[opaque sigil]

What is it, some sort of anti rat weapon?

[lavish apex]

they would never put that in the game

[earnest drift]

||are the saws clipping into each other||

[light swan]

yk heres my idea

[opaque sigil]

You monster

He’s just a silly little guy

[earnest drift]

why would you do this

[light swan]

if you skip this via early last ability and come back later

||sawSUPERFUCKINGlong appears and it’s a super difficult superboss||

[earnest drift]

i wish silksong had a completely innocent character that had much to live for who you could murder for fun

like menderbug

[lavish apex]

that guy is not completely innocent

[opaque sigil]

It could basically just fight like those ||pizza cutter guys on steroids and be plenty hard ||

[light swan]

i wish you could kill the dog

[opaque sigil]

You can

[light swan]

well attack tje dog

[opaque sigil]

You can. With love and affection.

[light swan]

you can hairpin the dog but you can’t shairpin it

[earnest drift]

it would be funny if the knight could shatter one of the old stag's front legs so he can't run anymore

[light swan]

it would

[lavish apex]

do not shairpin the dog

[earnest drift]

it would also be in character for the knight

[opaque sigil]

Chin scratches

[light swan]

shairpin scratches

[exotic dome]

in mio you can kill a cat

evil game

[mental snow]

Tried to get the Act 1 Faydown Cloak skip.

One singular Sharpdart placement was so precise, I deadass ragequit. I got the landing twice, maybe three times (thrice), but didn't react accordingly to make the distance after that.

I even caved and used a Cocoon pogo, but even that barely makes it better.

[opaque sigil]

Took me a second

[lavish apex]

i just got it

[rocky jolt]

phantom itahu

[queen acorn]

sharpdart?

[mental snow]

The silk skill, it gives a lot of distance.

[queen acorn]

i didnt know it was used in the act 1 faydown

[exotic dome]

is that even possible

[queen acorn]

it is possible

ive seen

[mental snow]

There's a whole video I watched

One sec

https://youtu.be/okUo2jTIhUI

You can make it easier with Cocoons, but this shows it's 100% possible without them

There's one specific move with Sharpdart that's so precise, it genuinely tilted me

Reaper'a Crest isn't required, it just makes it easier

[queen acorn]

i didnt know sharpdart was needed

[mental snow]

Oh it's 100% required

Not a single other option will get you through in Act 1... save for some hella shenanigans with Cocoons, but even then, most likely not

[queen acorn]

damn

[mental snow]

I'm gonna try to get this in my current Steel Soul run

(And hopefully not die pathetically like I did in my casual run to the fucking Slab guard lmao)

Like it's crazy to think the entirety of Bilewater (except for the Twisted Bud area), and therefore the Slab (except for that one Silk Soar spot), is open in Act 1 if you get Faydown Cloak

Shell Satchel is definitely gonna help

[mental snow]

alongside Ass Jim's fight

https://youtube.com/shorts/LXdoQ_USAWg

[earnest drift]

this guy is weird

[coral wind]

Fr

[light swan]

call an ambulance!

[coral wind]

Call me

I will end the suffering:D

[light swan]

i love how this was genuinely promotional material by the mio devs because it’s so goofy

[rocky jolt]

would you rather have 1 billion dollars right now
or
have 1 dollar that gets its value halved everyday

[coral wind]

How do you even get hit by that

[exotic dome]

the latter cuz passive income

[graceful cairn]

tuff

[coral wind]

Even mini bosses are harder

[rocky jolt]

bro thinking ahead

[light swan]

it’s a fake out

[coral wind]

Not that hard to dodge ngl

[light swan]

yea, it’s easy

[coral wind]

Like zyrith fake outs

[light swan]

but it’s still a fake out

and it’s the second boss of the game

[coral wind]

I know but it's NOT that hard

[coral wind]

Sbf bosses are much easier ngl

[light swan]

no one said it was hard, it’s still a fake out that you can get hit by once

[coral wind]

I can send you a vid of me soloing that guy

[light swan]

i really don’t care lol

[coral wind]

Twice

[coral wind]

Dang it:(

[light swan]

it’s a double fake out

[coral wind]

Even my blind leecher teammates can dodge that

[light swan]

dodge this

[exotic dome]

i wish silksong had this stats too (mio boss spoilers)

[light swan]

👊 💥 ⁉️

[glacial kelp]

wait where does it show this

[coral wind]

Nah I'd parry

[exotic dome]

https://the-black-lodge.github.io/mio-save-analyzer/

[glacial kelp]

oh

[coral wind]

Wdym I get - 1000

[glacial kelp]

??? what are you even replying to

[coral wind]

Bio

[glacial kelp]

oh

you lose 1000 aura

[coral wind]

No u

[glacial kelp]

if you dont know of course

[coral wind]

Breh

Lemme guess it's from a game

[twin summit]

your bio is from google lens

[glacial kelp]

is it my fault that you dont know

[coral wind]

Ez I win

[glacial kelp]

both are wrong

just to be clear

[twin summit]

bio is from a flower

[coral wind]

It's from somewhere

Ez I win

[glacial kelp]

somewhere implies it physically exists

to which it doesnt

[coral wind]

Somewhere by the emerald sea

Somewhere close to Harmony

[glacial kelp]

am i supposed to know this reference

also no way youre fire reacting yourself

[coral wind]

We cannot be fr

Proof hollow knight fans don't know peak

[mental snow]

Every Steel Soul run is the same. Bind, kill the guy to the right, get 60 Rosaries and kill Moss Mother, get another 60 and beat the Marrow arena, buy Brooch, speed through, pogo the fly to open the Elevator, get the Spool Fragment, kill the Craggier, get the Mask Shard, get Silkspear, kill Bell Beast, turn in the 4 Mossberries, complete the Pilgrim quest, buy out Pebb, get dash, buy out the Mottled Skarr, get the Deep Docks Spool Fragment, buy out Forge Sister, and go to Far Fields.

[light swan]

uhh i dont do that

[coral wind]

I don't understand a thing but w

[glacial kelp]

what are you trying to say dawg

[mental snow]

Repetition

[glacial kelp]

maybe if youre going for 100% reqs this makes sense?

why is “kill the craggler” randomly slotted in there

[mental snow]

(By that I mean I'm bored and I just described the early game of what I do in Steel Soul for no reason)

[amber igloo]

Umm hi

[coral wind]

Anyways

[mental snow]

Because. I kill the Craggler.

[amber igloo]

I’m looking for a silksong player?

[coral wind]

I gtg

[glacial kelp]

yeah but you dont seem to do anything in wormways afterwards…

[mental snow]

The Mask Shard

Right after Craggler

[violet moat]

guys sea of sorrow in april

[glacial kelp]

i guess that works

[light swan]

sea of sorrow july

[exotic dome]

tomorrow

[glacial kelp]

early game has very few pickups

[mental snow]

Sea of Sorrow DELTARUUUUUNE

[glacial kelp]

i kinda just use the any% route

[violet moat]

deltarune tomorrow

[glacial kelp]

is this real btw

[exotic dome]

ita tomorrow

tomorrow is not july

[mental snow]

I like the fact that you can ledge grab a crumbling platform right as it disappears

[violet moat]

always bet on shadowdrop tomorrow

[glacial kelp]

tomorrow will eventually be july

when you think about it

[exotic dome]

but not this tomorrow

[earnest drift]

i find the citadel more interesting than hallownest

[amber igloo]

Agreed

[glacial kelp]

it still means its tomorrow

[amber igloo]

When is sea of sorrow releasing

[mental snow]

I honestly really don't like Act 2 of Silksong. I dunno why.

[light swan]

no but its what i believe

[earnest drift]

yeah act 3 is better

[exotic dome]

say city of tears and i agree

[glacial kelp]

can you manifest an earlier date instead

[amber igloo]

Act 3 soft locks everything

And that stupid coral tower

[earnest drift]

does hallownest refer to the entire land and not just the pale king's part

[glacial kelp]

sea of sorrow in summer for the hornet beach episode

[exotic dome]

sea of tomorrow september 2058

[light swan]

no, july makes sense

[thorny lark]

anyone else think skarrsinger karmelita is kinda easy

[amber igloo]

Are you high?

[violet moat]

june at most

[amber igloo]

It is anything but easy

[earnest drift]

did pale king just own the city of tears and white palace i don't remember

[exotic dome]

entire map is hallownest

[glacial kelp]

like in general or compared to other bosses

[exotic dome]

except for deepnest

[solid grail]

She is easy if you use beast crest, weighted belt, drruid's eyes and memory overdose

[earnest drift]

but it didn't have the name hallownest until the pale king came in

[thorny lark]

just in general

[amber igloo]

Kind of

[earnest drift]

i can't remember if it was called pharloom before grand mother silk

[glacial kelp]

karm is usually considered the hardest boss so

[exotic dome]

so are you referring to city of tears

[glacial kelp]

if you found the rest of the game easy ig that tracks

[earnest drift]

yeah

[exotic dome]

then

[thorny lark]

but in her first stages shes really slow

[exotic dome]

wasnt it LL

[light swan]

shes faster than most bosses

[thorny lark]

true

[glacial kelp]

her rhythm is different to most

[glacial kelp]

its either ll or karm but you can refight ll much easier

[earnest drift]

so pale king owned city of tears, royal waterways, ancient basin
so what gave him the right to call the entire land "hallownest"

[exotic dome]

in phase 3 she constantly attacks

[thorny lark]

thhe one attack i dont like it where she goes forward while spinning midair

its annoying to dodge

[lavish apex]

i like that attack

[earnest drift]

does this imply it was called pharloom before gms showed up

[lavish apex]

not necessarily

[exotic dome]

crossroads, crystal peak, queens gardens were built by hallownest
monomon is in fog canyon
and the other kingdoms agreed to live under him
i dont remember much about howling cliffs

[earnest drift]

ok so the entire thing is hallownest except deepnest

[glacial kelp]

is hk lore better than skong lore

[earnest drift]

no

[thorny lark]

maybe it just didnt have a name

[earnest drift]

are the mantis lords part of hallownest

[meager swan]

Deepnest and Hive

[meager swan]

No, just allied with them under a treaty

[meager osprey]

But didn’t the hive train hornet?

[exotic dome]

oh the hive too

[earnest drift]

i think this was an agreement with deepnest rather than with the pale king

[thorny lark]

thats where she got the needle

[earnest drift]

unless you think white lady took hornet in and then vespa

[meager swan]

They did, but they still didn't want any part under Hallownest and the Pale King's rule. They literally sealed themselves off from the kingdom

[mental snow]

Something that would make Steel Soul runs 50X better would be the ability to skip Moss Grotto entirely and just use Bench Warp (save & quit) tactics to go in and out quickly to get the 60 Rosaries

[timid willow]

Damn idk why but I got bored of Silksong, and I had this feeling since I have beaten the game 😭

[sharp slate]

its only 5 minutes, is what i would say if you werent correct, its a slog yea

[timid willow]

I think I do have more completion then 86% by now lemme look later

[exotic dome]

it happens

its not a perfect game

[timid willow]

Should I try doing steel soul on hk first then SS?

[mental snow]

I was about to give like 3 sentences on why you're right but you're wrong, until I read your entire message

Thank you

[timid willow]

Yeah that doesn't exist

[exotic dome]

hk should be easier

[earnest drift]

no godhome

[exotic dome]

much much easier imo

[timid willow]

Yeah now I'm also used to quick casting spells from the silk skills in Silksong

[earnest drift]

and unlike hollow knight silksong deserves a godhome

[thorny lark]

try to get all the endings and all bosses

[earnest drift]

as long as it's sensible

[timid willow]

I did beat LL yesterday in 3 tries after not playing SS for a month

[sharp slate]

hollow knight without godhome would fucking suck

[earnest drift]

but godhome sucks

[timid willow]

I only got 1 more ending to go that I can get in my main savefile

Cursed...

[mortal bluff]

Real.

[exotic dome]

practice bosses in godhome so you don't die to marmu in steel soul like me from 5 years ago

[mortal bluff]

False

[sharp slate]

to each their own, i enjoyed godhome alot

[earnest drift]

no team cherry i don't want to refight marmu

[sharp slate]

then dont do it...

[thorny lark]

well then do it

[earnest drift]

i don't want to fight 20 garbage bosses in a row

and i don't want to consume hallownest what the fuck is this ending

[sharp slate]

cant wait for voltvyrm and zango to be in silksong pantheon lol

[thorny lark]

marmu sucks

[mortal bluff]

Hall of gods is my favorite

[timid willow]

This isn't bad now is it? (Someone else was also watching so it kinda put some extra on me)
I lost twice then won because of how I started using Clawline more often)

[mortal bluff]

Let’s me fight who I want

[meager swan]

The farming to get the rosaries needed for every item, the amount prerequisites needed to be completed just to get to ACT3 alone, the scale of the map to unlock everything. It's understandable that Silksong is phenomenal game on a first playthrough but tedious when it comes to replayablility.

[earnest drift]

me crystal dashing through the added 20 metres because they needed room for the marmu and flukemarm statues

[exotic dome]

not at all imo

[sharp slate]

i enjoyed godhome so much in hk, replayability and speedrunning was insanely fun, its not everyones cup of tea, but its good addtional content for those that like it

you dont always have to do everything in the game, especially optionally stuff like radhog

[timid willow]

Yeah I've finished most of the game already 😭 I completed it at 86% already (maybe more) so yeah 😭

[earnest drift]

how it feels to spend 40 hours on a complete and utter slogfest of a boss rush only to be rewarded with the most whack ending oat

[mortal bluff]

Radiant for those is an interesting challenge. Alone they lack replay value, but they are an interesting challenge with restrictions

[thorny lark]

I hate the crust king khann gauntlet right before the fight

[exotic dome]

same but i never touched it after finishing radhog

[sharp slate]

replayability is rough, beginning is a slog and skipping enemies means you are short on rosaries, and getting to TE takes a while, i still love silksong dont get me wrong thats why it feels rough to replay

[timid willow]

I do like it

[thorny lark]

i mean its super fun but kind of annoying

[timid willow]

Yeah I get what you mean
I'm also a Hunter main

[mortal bluff]

Nothin better than a good ol radiant pure vessel

[twin brook]

i wonder how much content the DLC will have. with the ending of the game giving you so many quality of life things I hope it still gives its own challenge. Obviously just QOL won’t help with a hard boss but I hope it doesn’t just feel like checking things off a list and is still challenging. i can’t expect a DLC to have nearly as much content as the game itself of course but ya know. wonder how long its been in the works

[exotic dome]

i think silksong is replayable with different builds

[timid willow]

Yeah it is

[sharp slate]

Fair, i committed to it hard, i loved doing hitless challenges tbh, its my whole reason for starting hitless, which im starting to do to other games as well

[earnest drift]

would it be bad if the dlc is act 3 exclusive

[timid willow]

But I've experimented with different builds and only now found the build that fits me the most for most bosses

[thorny lark]

maybe

[sharp slate]

I just hope they dont further bloat completion time of the game

[timid willow]

I just hope they release the DLC soon so I got some new content in SS

[exotic dome]

my 2nd playthrough was incredibly fun, even more fun than 1st probably. it fell off after 4th

[meager swan]

Yes it absolutely would. But I doubt TC would do such a dumb idea

[earnest drift]

how come

[sharp slate]

i think its likely going to be act 2/3 for dlc stuff, doubt its all act 3

[timid willow]

I usually use Hunter's crest and I don't really like Wanderer's crest what crest you think I should use for a 2nd playthrough or 3rd (I forgot which one it is)

[mortal bluff]

All I’m saying is that they should add a chapel to the marrow so that even if the beginning of the game is vastly more linear than HK, they can add replay value via using a different very early game crest

[timid willow]

I'll edit my savefile to start with that specific crest

:D so I can enjoy it as early as possible

[exotic dome]

try witch or beast. they have unique healing systems and you can do a lot of tool synergy especially with witch crest

[copper hedge]

h

[timid willow]

Yeah Witch and Beast are my 2nd favorite and 3rd favorite crest respectfully
Then we got Architect then Reaper and then at last place wanderer's

[mortal bluff]

Architect crest is one I could never do a whole run with. That one probs feels the most clunky regarding needle swings

[exotic dome]

you could try shaman too but it's unlocked in act 3 sadly

[timid willow]

Savefile editing allows you to start with it
As idk if there's a mod that can do that

If so then I'll use the mod instead

[exotic dome]

its pogo does 2x damage

[light swan]

archipogo my beloved

[exotic dome]

but i dislike spamming bs so i agree

[timid willow]

Yeah it's pogo is good but it's so clunky to land unlike Hunter's pogo

[timid willow]

I love the Diagonal pogo

[copper hedge]

i agree

[timid willow]

Makes the game harder if not used to it and more fun

[exotic dome]

hunter pogo my beloved

[copper hedge]

diagonal pogos ❤️❤️

[timid willow]

But I got so used to it that it's my best crest 😭

[light swan]

never forget the sniper rifle pogo

[exotic dome]

the reason i liked 2nd playthrough better was probably because i used hunter. i had finished my first one with reaper

[meager swan]

Would you want to get all the way to ACT3 just to experience Sea of Sorrows on a new save? Thought so. The smart decision would be for it to start at ACT2 with a little bit more content in ACT3

[timid willow]

Hmm I'd say it starts around halfway of act 2?

[exotic dome]

flea pogo with architect is crazy

[earnest drift]

yes i would want to play until act 3 to experience sea of sorrows

[timid willow]

So it's not instantly unlocked after getting through the early game

[timid willow]

Yeah explains
I used many different Crests throughout my 1st playthrough but at the end I found out how I'm a Hunter main at heart

[meager swan]

Accessible after unlocking Faydown Cloak and Clawline perhaps

[timid willow]

Just clawline should be good

Faydown cloak isn't what everyone goes for immediately

That's why I'd say just clawline and having beaten a specific act 2 boss?

Which then unlocks Sea of Sorrow

But yeah it all depends

If Sea of Sorrow will have a lot of platforming then yeah clawline + faydown cloak to be unlocked at minimum should be fine

But yeah

You can skip mount fay's parkour with Silk Soar if you somehow get Silk Soar without the cloak 🤣

Which should be possible

I think

[undone gate]

Double Jump is a requirement for Act 3

[timid willow]

Oh yeah 😭

Forgot

[earnest drift]

based

[sharp slate]

halfway act 2 sounds nice tbh

[ocean kestrel]

🗣️

[brittle hill]

What are these things for?

[earnest drift]

showers, you probably don't know what those are

[brittle hill]

Sybau

[latent terrace]

I'm a wanderer crest believer now

After beating the last judge with it

[earnest drift]

how does caretaker know about the snare setter and where it is

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-skong-sk-gif-9152098084645823068

[graceful cairn]

i like how this is actually average wanderer with how much tanking there is

[strange knot]

Average wand user has 10 masks on lj

[brittle hill]

Reaper crest is really good too against last judge, it helped me a lot with its healing against her

[graceful oyster]

@light swan If I ever play Nine Sols I think I might enjoy the final boss even more because knowing a bit of the story and how good the fight is is kinda hyping me the HECK up even without having played the game

Kinda making me wish I got the game during spring sale

[sharp slate]

good game, just finished it recently, glad i went in 100% blind amazing story

[copper hedge]

maybe he heard about it

[earnest drift]

from who

[graceful oyster]

I know a decent bit about the general idea but if I play it I don't think it'll hurt the experience too much

I might end up liking it more

Well, in the first place, me knowing about the story is making me want to play it

[meager swan]

To clean a person. That's the purpose of a shower, of course as a discord user I'm sure you wouldn't understand

[copper hedge]

its missing some soap and shampoo

[earnest drift]

i already made this joke you are a THIEF and a FRAUD.

[brittle hill]

Gng I know why it is I’m asking if there’s any sort of interaction with it like does it open smh 😭

[copper hedge]

FRAUD??? ULTRAKILL???

[earnest drift]

mio if it was good

[copper hedge]

afaik you can clean yourself there if your cloak has that fly stink

thats basically it

you can also raise up the water bills for the citadel if you want :D

[earnest drift]

how many gargantuan glooms would it take to beat radiance

[brittle hill]

Oh so it cleans like those maggots in sinners road?

[meager swan]

I didn't see your message because you are far below me

[earnest drift]

my apologies O superior

[meager swan]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-nitro-ruby-nitro-ruby-nitro-user-ruby-nitro-rank-gif-1750050761971044742

[candid kayak]

it says here that you're silver nitro

[earnest drift]

most of silksong's characters are better than hollow knight's characters but one character that doesn't apply to is the relic seeker

[meager swan]

As if literally anyone has been paying those bills to begin with

[earnest drift]

lemm was extremely passionate in spending thousands on collectibles and his grumpy attitude at only wanting relics and not wanting any interaction beyond that was memorable

i can't remember what scrounge has

seeing her dig through her pile is funny and i like her dialogue

but her personality isn't much beyond being a bit crazy

[meager swan]

Don't expose me like that :(
I'm trying to be aura and cool

[graceful oyster]

Okay I got Nine Sols

[copper hedge]

Aura balance: 50

[graceful oyster]

I want to decide for myself if I hate parry combat

[exotic cedar]

Nice!! Have fun

[meager swan]

Tbh my Aura balance should be 0 considering I bought Discord Nitro in the first place

[copper hedge]

Aura balance: -50

[graceful oyster]

I really like the art for this game so I feel it's worth playing it just for that

[astral olive]

A big part of that, I think is because Lemm had to talk the lore blurbs to the Knight, while in Silksong the lore blurbs are read directly in the menu.

[graceful oyster]

Controller or keyboard? I like controller but if you and/or others think I'll have a hard time, I'm flexible

[astral olive]

Scourge simply has less dialogue in general and less specifically interesting dialogue

[candid kayak]

scrounge

[astral olive]

Scrounge

Sorry

[candid kayak]

lol

[astral olive]

But still, my point

[candid kayak]

it is... really annoying handing in a bunch of relics to lemm

[astral olive]

Less dialogue and less intrinsically interesting dialogue

[candid kayak]

it's an extremely slow process, especially since he keeps talking even when he has nothing left to say

[astral olive]

And that is probably the reason relics are read in a menu in Silksong

[candid kayak]

like instead of repeating the exhausted dialogue thing for each hallownest seal

[exotic cedar]

Honestly i never ever played any games on my laptop with a controller

[candid kayak]

he could just

not have any dialogue at all by that point

[exotic cedar]

I always use keyboard everytime so i honestly don't know

[graceful oyster]

I'll just do controller initally and see if I wanna switch

[earnest drift]

that's fair

but it gives lemm much more personality

[candid kayak]

again, by the time he runs out of dialogue there should just be no looping dialogue

[earnest drift]

though i'm looking at scrounge's dialogue and her behaviour is pretty catching as well

she's obsessed with preserving the past like lemm is, but it's in a more all-encompassing way

[sharp slate]

Whichever you think its best tbh, any control scheme works imo, i did keyboard mouse cause its most comfortable for me

[exotic dome]

she is a larper lemm was a real collector

[astral olive]

Scrounge is a fun character. I like her contrast with Vaultkeeper Cardinius.

[exotic dome]

it would be good if we had a relic menu in hk too

[earnest drift]

can these be read before hornet gives them to scrounge?

[exotic dome]

no they appear as a regular inventory item

[earnest drift]

i feel like hornet can't read them before giving them but idk if i made that up

[earnest drift]

oh ok

sad, it would've been cool if scrounge was translating them for hornet

[candid kayak]

you can't read them prior to selling

[sharp slate]

honestly i like how QOL dealt with that, go to his right side to sell all

[earnest drift]

wait what

[candid kayak]

it just has a generic description of the item

[astral olive]

Probably what's happening

[candid kayak]

they even stack in the inventory

[earnest drift]

ohhh ok

so scrounge IS translating them for hornet

hey that's cool lemm didn't do that

[exotic dome]

why can't hornet read weaver effigies by herself tho

[astral olive]

Yeah, Lemm just says some lore he knows or pulls from what is given

[earnest drift]

lazy mom didn't bother to teach her their language

herrah just slept all the time smh

[cerulean sable]

LET THE VESSELS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE VESSELS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE VESSELS HIT THE FLOOR

[exotic dome]

also she can understand and speak to pilgrims but she can't read bone scrolls

[earnest drift]

nvm i like scrounge more than lemm

[astral olive]

Because she didnt really spend much time with her people. Mostly grew up in the Hive or Hallownest's court

[sharp slate]

its in reality just a gameplay thing

not everything has a in depth reason

[exotic dome]

yea i know

"it's a gameplay thing dw"
-scrounge

[earnest drift]

but it's fun to think about

[candid kayak]

it is possible that the bone scrolls and stuff are in another language, but it could also be that she just doesn't bother to inspect them prior to appraisal

[civic bolt]

Yeah Ash is no fun

[sharp slate]

yea but you just are gonna create more holes, like she can speak the language but not read it

[candid kayak]

lol

[sharp slate]

that type of stuff

[astral olive]

Well yeah

[earnest drift]

isn't that common

[civic bolt]

Lore discussion, bleh

[earnest drift]

people who can speak but not read or write

[candid kayak]

but then she can read basically every sign, including fungal lore tablets

[astral olive]

Half of the lore channel is hole creation and filling

[meager swan]

That or TC just didn't really think about that part too hard. And considering they have no answer towards why or how the knight was in the desolate wastes in the beginning of HK, it ain't too far off

[candid kayak]

so it would be really odd if everyone wrote signs in one language and notes in another language

so most likely you just aren't inspecting the item before giving it to scrounge

[sharp slate]

fair i get its all point of lore discussion i was just pointing it out

[light swan]

did you finally realize nine sols was peak

[earnest drift]

well that one was present in hallownest

[candid kayak]

mm

[earnest drift]

i feel stupid, was the ancient civilisation also present in pharloom

[exotic dome]

i like how game puts you in the middle of nowhere and doesn't tell anything

[exotic dome]

abyss is under everywhere

[astral olive]

I choose to believe that Hornet can read modern Citadel and old formal Weaver, but Pilgrim common script and common Weaver is just beyond her. 🙂

[graceful oyster]

I like the artstyle enough and I want to decide for myself how I like the combat rather than just prematurely concluding

[earnest drift]

i like this idea

[light swan]

based + goated

[earnest drift]

hornet not knowing old weaver languages and pilgrim languages but being able to read ancient civilisation tablets is really weird

[astral olive]

But fun!

It adds character

[exotic dome]

because hornet = void

[earnest drift]

maybe because the ancient civilisation was once in hallownest ig

scrounge figured out how to read the eggs

[hardy tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAq9Af1Koj0&list=RDMMUAq9Af1Koj0&start_radio=1

[astral olive]

Like, "This isn't Weaver. It's missing (Highly specific grammer and writing rules only used in very formal old Weaver)!"

[exotic dome]

600 for arcane egg is crazy work, scrounge has no idea what that is

[earnest drift]

rosaries are worth more than geo i believe

[exotic dome]

grimm's theme if it was peak

[astral olive]

Yeah. Things of similar assumable value across games cost less rosaries than geo.

[exotic dome]

how much geo lemm gave for an arcane egg

[earnest drift]

2000

[exotic cedar]

Lemm is the goat

[desert compass]

i like to think its because she was raised under the pale king and white lady for the ancient tablets but since the weavers did not really interact with hornet about old languages and just talked to her in the current one, she did not learn

[exotic dome]

makes sense then

[desert compass]

• considering there were not that many weavers alive in the red memory

[exotic dome]

i remember 800 for some reason

[earnest drift]

are geo and shell shards the same

[astral olive]

Yes

[candid kayak]

more or less yeah

[astral olive]

Effectively

[desert compass]

yeah since both form from old bones

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[desert compass]

hi

[meager swan]

I mean, considering Rosaires are hand made while Geo just comes from the environment, that makes sense

[toxic vigil]

one is fossilised ( old ) one is not ( new or couldn't )

[earnest drift]

so when the knight kills a vengefly its shell instantly ages 500 years to fossilise and become geo

[astral olive]

The Citadel rosary bank has abacus and that is very cool.

[exotic dome]

judging by the arcane egg prices, 1 rosary is worth about 3.33 geo

[meager swan]

Geo is such an amazing currency that even wild beasts want it

[toxic vigil]

im gonna be real honest i have no fucking clue why they drop geo

[astral olive]

They were working with large amounts of currency

[desert compass]

also consider the value of different rosaries and different geo, for geo its 1, 5, and 25 right? (Feel like im missing one)

for rosaries its 1, 5, and 15

i havent played hk in a while fml

[exotic dome]

"it's game design"
-lemm

[earnest drift]

i think the last one is 25 for both

[sharp slate]

having regular beasts just drop nothing would be horrible, well hmmm maybe

[burnt mantle]

Wait is it weird that i beat Groal first try (i dont know what yall are talking about im just curious)

[desert compass]

nah ur just good

[astral olive]

15

[toxic vigil]

pearl rosaries are 15, big geo is 25

[mortal bluff]

They ate a rosary off the floor. Make them drop rosaries lol

[earnest drift]

oh nvm