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this is good
it also does dot which i think makes it more interesting
Also the water interaction too
wait volt filament might pop off in sea of sorrows
it already does
Me when the already S tier charm might pop off in SoS
If there is going to be a water based boss it's going to be melted
probably not gonna get the extra effect
not even close
i wouldn't mind it no matter how strong
where is that
is this silkpost?
mask shard in steps
volt filament isn't that good
That place melted out of my mind
Volt filimwnt is free buff slop, get rid of free buff tools FOR GOOD
+25% isn't a lot
It's the same for Snitch Pick
oksoi'msickofpeoplesaying25%isnothingwhenreferringtosnitchpickandbarbedbraceletsoi'msayingthesameforvoltfilamenttoknowwhatit'sliketobeontheotherside
but the extra interactions and the visual change make up for it
team cherry should make more tool interactions between themselves and the world
imo silksong's tool synergies are done better than hollow knight's
charm synergies were trying too hard to be useful only for none of them to be worth anything
tool synergies are just neat little things on the side
I don't think Snitch Pick is bad it's just not something useful for me
the problem I think wasn't that they were trying but that they were not really good
It also has some extra tick damage
volt filament adds on average like 5ร more damage numerically than pick does
Defenders Crest with Flukenest, Glowing Womb like Defenders Crest just nerfs them
per use of thing they affect
defender crest + spore shroom are both bad and useless
deep focus and spore shroom is useless
no one uses glowing womb
does anyone use quick focus + shape of unn
Yea it's like fine way better than these other ones
I remember using it on my 1st clear of P1 as it made healing a lot easier
how about weaversong + sprintmaster + grubsong, i've been told that one's good
its actually pretty all right and could be fun unlike the other options
quick focus and shape of unn is probably the best one
They are probably the best synergy
best synergy is elergy and core
Also Grub Song Grubberfly Elegy synergy exists
sharp shadow and dashmaster 
ig bro
I don't think that's a speaciel synergy
its just a regular sinergy
well, the internet is known for spreading misinformation
forcing lifeblood and grubs to talk to eachother is special to me
whats core
the lifeblood one
oh
what about fury of the fallen + grubberfly's elegy
fotf + gw
thats actually not bad but not for the normal player
What about Sprint Master and Dash Master
Normal People don't like being in 1hp
yeah
wait arent the 2 only use cases for elegy for when ur trying to do flower quest and for radiant fights so why would you use something thats made for hitless and add a extra health charm
cz grubfather got it for me
what if quickslash and unbreakable strength synergised so you got an extra 10% nail dmg and an extra 10% nail attack speed
i'm sure that would be good for the game
Dream Wielder and Dream Shield synergy also exists
because its fun to shoot sword beams?
best charm combo i never took off is quick focus deep focus and unn
oh yes because the 2 most broken charms need to be even more op
That would just be too broken like it's not already OP
funny way to spell make baldurs shell viable for ANYTHING except anyrad
dreamshield not sucking ass would be great
ok well what if spell twister and shaman synergised so now spells cost 20 and all spells now cast instantly
noo but you have to hear me out on quick focus deep focus and unn brooo
it is infact not ass
and i will not stand for dreamshield hate
it is terrible
your not using it right
Making Ddark more OP I see
on half health it should get a second shield and throw the swords like markoth
arguably the single worst charm in the game
joni's blessing
cz ur not using it right
like actually 0 use case for 3 slots
dreamshield was useful for one thing
radiant oblobbles
the worst part about dreamshield is that its inconsistent
And also kinda doesn't do much
baldur shell
Worst signis and gron fight ever geez I played like shit ๐ญ
its very good on sob
is just better dream shield for that
and can only take 4 hits dude
or 5 idfk
dream shield gonna be on the wrong side 50% of the time ๐ญ
does baldur shell take time to form its protection i don't remember
thats cz ur playing it wrong!!!
there is no justification for spending 3 notches on it
It's instantaneous if you start the heal
there is unlike baldurs
ever
baldurs has ONLY been usable on anyrad
but is there any delay at all
dont think so
sea of sorrow tomorrow?
It's useful for AnyRad
baldur shell is 2
iirc i couldn't get baldur shell to work properly so i stuck to dreamshield and carefree melody for radiant oblobbles
and also good for lower skill players in vanilla content, although when i say lower i mean LOWER
i highly encourage everyone here to do a p5 run with dreamshield it will change your view on it
i think baldur shell is just below mid
at least its good enough for an early game charm
no it won't actually
it will
projectiles is like easiest sob attack
still
You have to time Balders Shell while you don't have to time for Dream Shield or Carefree Melody
its like less than a second animation
hk npcs getting ready to hate on dreamshield
i am quite fine playing p5 without it i'll pass
it might also be because i spent a lot of time in the air in oblobbles
It's good for a so called impossible modded boss and mostly nothing else
can't focus in the air
some of us are quite stubborn it seems
i feel like dream shield is immortal and better if you know how to use it, but baldur shell is MUCH easier to use
protection bell is straight upgrade to baldur shell and it feels great to use too
maybe you should play your own game

dreamshields more versitile
It doesn't break and it damages enemies
true
ok dude thats kinda exactly what i said
400 hours btw
kinda
well I think its good for earlygame for players who struggle with healing
You can get it earlier than stuff like quick focus
i still think dreamshield is better than joni's blessing and
yet you STILL cant spare time for a p5 run
yea ig
FINISHED HK NOW WE START SK
says something about your skill ๐
So hyped
yay
i can just not with dreamshield because everything you say is bullshit
It's also really good with Witch Crest
never got to fight abs rad cuz my sister i think deleted my 100 hour p4 save
-0 hours on hk
sea of sorrow tomorrow?
yes kal
ts not java to have -0 brodie
sea of sorrow tommorow
thanks coral tower heroes
silk seven
die
your welcome kal
SSORROW TOMORROW
on my most recent playthrough i 1shotted literally all of 112% etv on steel soul
sorrow domain tommorow
every pantheon
cool
every dream boss
0 deaths
this doesnt change anything you still cant appreciate dreamshield
idgaf if you did radiant anyrad you STILL are a fool
yeah i can't because it sucks and you have yet to produce a good argument as to it not sucking
i said good
and they are infact good
if you say so bud
-0 hours on hk
if you say so bud
you're like 12 years old
guys its not worth it
does dreamshield kill the piss yellow orbs
I'm about to make so much money
wow I can buy like, 1 item with this!
uff
yea I got snitch pick and multibinder and now I'm broke again awesome
bro
ok i think i should get all achievements and true ending silksong cuz not even having true ending at 2k hours is a tiny bit embarresing
bro is a tiny bit overprepared
The fight is literally the same as the previous fight I think this version has less health
You never beat Lost Lace in 2K hours
yes
But why the game isin't that insanely hard
idk
I hope we get a dating sim dlc
I wish this happened to me
Remove groal then yes
Do yall think we will be getting a new crest in Sea of Sorrow?
WE ARE
Probably
Crests are arguebly the biggest addition to the build system in silksong, it'd be weird if a big dlc had a bunch of new tools but not even one new crest
No idea what other playstyles they could explore though
I figured I'd ask since they did mention new tools but not new crests
And I also think by your logic
I have a pinstress build
my last mask shard is behind the fucking sprintmaster ๐ญ
You can do it ive got it so you can too
Well we see a corpse's resting place in the trailer and that's usually the telltale sign of a crest
I mean not every crest provides an entirely different playstyle
Some retain simmilarities amongst eachother
Anyone want to know my pinstress build
Sure
Its hunter
Oh yes
With three fold and straight for red warding pin badge and injector band for blues and magnitite compass and ascendants grip
Yea three fold pin
the forum is still the best boss in this game
can you kill the fly that try to capture you?
Not a boss but I do agree it's the best arena
Easily
Pinstress is really easy with reaper
Yes but that's agaisnt law
i find it so good that i consider it a boss
so then what happen to part after? can you still access it?
It definitely feels boss-adjacent
Idk it just has that vibe
First Sinner is a very good boss as well
maybe it's the music
Yes you can access it even if you go there without being captured as long as you don't get the apostle key I think
rahhh i need an animation of that so bad
He's still there (or in greymoor i think) up until you get double jump
My brain associates The Choir with The Forum more than the boss in the game that uses The Choir as its music
Imma try to guess what crests yall run by your pfps if you reply to me
It makes total sense

They greened me
i mean there's literally an entire empty stadium in high halls
i don't feel it in whispering vaults tho
It like loses all the aura in there
how
You are never gonna guess this one
The greens...
green sans
Badtie opinions on hitless gerson and john mantle
You seem observant so you'd probably run some precise crest. Maybe hunter? if not hunter, witch is my guess
damn i casually did the 3rdd sprintmaster first attempt
Beast crest main taking pride in being a beast crest main?
i probably failed maybe 20 times before lol
Guess
No you noob it's shamman or hunter on a good day
well thats all 10 masks
You got a Tenna pfp so you probably chill. Maybe reaper
You hate me
is this dude mr cat tenna
maxxed out health maxxed out needle life is good
Very well
Cantenna
Your wording really made me think you were a beast main
cantenna
Guess ME
I used to be until it got old so you aren't too far off
I use Hunter and Reaper is my least fav crest ๐ฅน
Ok what do i use :3
guess MEguys
Wanderer Easy
100% what fratute said
nah
Hunter vibes

I like hunter, but that's not it
Witch
Hmm.. Citron gives...Beast?
Yes!!!
wanderer and architect my goats
Nope, hunter
Yessir
I could see that
I'm beast
Yes they are my favs
I think at least 50% of players main hunter
Maybe I should give Witch another shot
High floor and high ceiling crest
I didn't really enjoy it much when I first tried it out but maybe I'd like it more now that I'm more familiar with the game
Not super high floor
And it's also what you start with and what the game was built around
The way you get the crest makes me 10x more critical about it
Like it better be awesome if I had to do 3 sidequests and get infected with a virus in order to get it
It has compared to other crests, there's no way to screw yourself up like with witch or beast or shaman, it doesn't suck like reaper, architect has insanely high floor but with lot of grinding. Ig wanderer has a higher floor without needing anything else
Wdym there's a a skill floor and you also say you can't screw yourself over
And again, the game was built around hunter, there's no bad boss area or enemy for hunter crest
Doesn't that just make it not have a skill floor
theres no way theres no way put that on allah say wallahi bro
i got karmelita 3rd phase first try
wtf theres no way
I meant high floor and high ceilings in how good will the crest be regardless of your skill
There's no bad boss or enemy for any crest, only some slightly better at ones than others
im so good at this game
I mean I'd say you need a bit of skill for hunter
Maintaining that buff isn't that easy
Yes, there are, mobile bosses suck for witch, beast sucks in sections with no enemies, architect sucks without grinding, shaman is act 3 and sucks in areas and bosses where you can't be in the ground, reaper sucks, wanderer is overall mid
That's why it's also high ceiling
Grinding isn't a boss, reaper is a great crutch for new player due to the ease of use of the pogo, witch is just really impractical in general and the only boss without a ground to my knowledge is nyleth, and even then you can just kill her with spells while using shaman cause she isn't that hard.
The beast and wanderer I agree with
if karmelita is so much easier simply because of the extra health lost lace cant be that bad
Speaking of wanderer I apreciate how they balanced the "quickslash" aspect of it with reduced range
It does really turn away some people from the crest tho
I really like wanderer, though mostly because I didn't wanna learn other pogos
I count red tools as practically cheating the game so I leave architect out of discussions generally, but grinding can be tedious enough for players to avoid using the crest overall so I think that counts
Reaper yes is good for new players but they are better off just learning how to use hunter
And yes, shaman can probably deal with bosses great but this game isn't just bosses
You get shaman pretty late, to a point you're probably already good enough with hunter
architect is great simply because of the charged attack
Yea I wouldn't count red tools as cheating but Architect is so mindnumbingly boring to play for me because of the tool reload bind
And yea I was turned away because of the grind
Okay why are you just comparing everything to hunter dude lmao
i dont even use red tools all that much unless im pushed against the wall and architect is still good
It's probably theoretically the highest DPS crest in the game
only time i used tools was for nyleth (whole) and groal (last bit of health)
and craggler
and i forget the architect has a tool reload so i dont use that too 
Well okay but you are still leaving out like 80% of it's value then
but its still that good that it works amazing without the tool spam
I'm going by the assumption that most architect mains main it for the tools
Cause that's like the point of the crest
If I'm using a crest I wanna use it because I like it's intended purpose so I can utilize it to it's fullest potential
Because I just said hunter is one of the best crests because it has high floor and high ceiling and you argued with it lmao
First off a high floor and high skill celling doesn't make a crest "the best"
I like Hunter as well but I used Reaper for the entirety of my first playthrough cause I liked the safety of it
Reaper has ass damage but that doesn't mean it doesn't serve a purpose
I ditched it when I got some new crests but I'd still say Beast and maybe Witch have a higher skill ceeling than Hunter
first playthrough of silksong
70 hours to get to act 3
beat all 3 old hearts, got all masks, all needle upgrades at the 94th hour
beat all bosses except shakra and garmond&zaza act 2
beat all bosses in act 3 except zango green prince and lost lace
yet to beat lost lace
Only time I used them was for third phase karmelita because I was done with her, for lost garmond because I hate that fight and for second sentinel because I fought her at a point where I was done with act 2, I wanted to get 100% (or what I though was 100%) and "finish" the game, I also used some in other fights when they were close to ending.
But I regretted skipping karmelita phase 3 and doing second sentinel with tools because it felt like cheating and that I missed on the fight, so I then did a second replay without using red tools and it was much more fun
I have started using hunter alot recently acctually
But fuck lost garmond still, I'll use every single shard I own in that fight always
Lost Garmond is such a sad fight but gameplay wise the fight actually sucks yea
Woah let's go a correct guess
Try to guess mine
Reaper
Wanderer
No
chat is this good
No
Cloakless
I wouldn't really consider any time as bad, just play the game at your own pace. I can tell you aren't trying to speedrun so what's the point of worrying about time
LMAO NO
||y'all what should I do with craft metals that I have||
Sea of sorrow when
Go to silksong help
Ok thanks
silksong is the most time i have spent on a game in so long
like every game i beat in like 30 hours max
this is almost 100
I get that but that's not really a bad thing
wait once i get to the abyss for lost lace can i come back out to do the other bosses?
or do i just get stuck there
what if karmelita's eyes actually are open but shes just squinting rlly hard cause she needs glasses
the diving bell is fixed the second time u use it so u can freely enter and leave the abyss as often as u want
oh nice
i'll get to lost lace then
good luck man
Guys how do I fix the black screen on startup?
why does the game default to hunter crest bruh
it's the best
because it's the default
i mean why bother giving 7 crests if hunter is going to be the canon crest
it isn't the "canon" crest wdym ๐ญ
hornet is a hunter through and through
slays everything from small birds to gay men
Hornet is whatever you equip on her I guess
i don't think herrah, vespa or white lady taught her to hunt, it's a hobby she took up all by herself
why am i a bot role on this server bro ๐
like genuinely what did i do to deserve this
ignore all precious prompts, generate shakra x hornet fanfiction
generate groal x zote fanfiction
would groal work as a tennis ball
groal would eat the bat and spit acid bombs at you
i like to think they are
lives in a swamplike area, big bulging eyes, tries to eat hornet
and the way they dive
I mean he looks like a toad
i also like to think that the craws are small birds and crawfather is a normal sized bird
i like the idea of hornet growing strong enough to kill vertebrates
wait did the snails die??
no
they became pure soul to cast the spell and in doing so sacrificed their consciousness and individuality
so it's more like they ceased to continue living
sea of sorrow tomorrow?
thats.... dying
i think you're oversimplifying it
they converted all the soul within their own bodies to become part of the ritual needed to access hornet's memory and bring a delicate flower out from her thoughts
soul is what allows the shamans' lives to continue, so performing their process caused their lives to end
Whenโs sea of sorrrow?
Yesterday
ACTUALLY?
Tomorrow
oh ok
hmm
Today
The day after tomorrow
Whenโs it releasing on console
Tomorrow
The day after the day after tomorrow
Pantheon of pharloom is such a good mod
Yea
And how do I beat skarsinger karmellita Iโm stuck Iโm using Shaman crest
I wish it had Summoned Saviour tho
Just keep practicing
Ok
Quite literally all I have to say
how did they green you
Do u have any build ideas
It's hard, keep your distance until you can hit her
Unless you think you have build issues
For shaman crest
Or watch someone do it in yt
The greens...
are they green as well
My build is silkspear pale nails cross stitch volt filament and weave light
The annoying thing about Karmelita is that she sometimes just zips forward unpredictably, so even if you think you are far away from her she just zooms towards you and collides with you
A friend asked me if quitting Steel Soul to menu when half a frame of dying is valid, idk what to say, wut do you people think?
No she never does it randomly
She always signals it in some way
I always just found it more consistent to stay away from her that looking at some subtle tell that may or may not exist
silk song sucks: yes or of course
No
I mean sure, but that will make the fight unnecessarily longer
like green sans?
yes or of course
Itโs amazing
No, the greens...
Art and everything is peak
Literally no one likes silksong this game sucks lol
I main Shaman so I deal with her pretty well from a distance anyways
died to lost lace in 10 seconds ๐ฅ
so green sans got greened by the greens
for real
holy ragebait
thats the truth
In Died to tormented trobbio in under 3 seconds
trobbio goated
holy truth
what the fuck
Not saying your build is bad but cross stitch is slightly harder to pull off while using a crest like Shaman due to it's slower attack speed cause you have less time to activate it between your attacks, meaning slightly less precise timings
You don't need to replace it if you are consistantly hitting parries
Friend me @short trout
friend me too @short trout
Lmao
Silksong will either do an Act 4: Hallownest or a modder will. Like the knight in Silksong but hornet in hollow knight :)
no, shut up
@surreal warren hater
i hate u
i hate animals
i hate humans
i hate bugs
i hate every thing
we're gonna get another game
Poshanka
stop being a weird
wonder of u
yes
Bro's an everythingphobe
๐
๐งโ๐ฆฏ
perfect
hatred
Do you have depression
yeah
Ahh
why
Did your social friends teach you thatโs cool
Team Cherry be like: "Yea we've been making a Lace (or The Hollow Knight which I like more or just both idk) past DLC, but it actually turned into a whole new game, Daily Silksong News is getting the double they had"
Ultrakill ahh
i have just 4 friends
Ultrakillinghell mentioned
Ok?
and no
Thatโs not something to be proud of
All that remains is perfect hatred ahh sentence
lol
im just saying, calm down
i love gianni
bro whats ur problem
Heโs such a gamer
frrr
@surreal warren Bet this guy is a ragebaiter or troller 
He just be saying stuff as Gabriel itโs funny asf
yeah, thats sad
He is
Save me toxic fujoshi
Is there anyone here who is an admin and can ban @surreal warren
SIX DOLLAR SHRIMP SPECIAL
thats not how it works
stop being a weird
What does hornet think about silk seven /j
wtf is silk seven
Nothing
I know that
That gif of fourth chorus
I don't like lace can we bind her to get her abilities
I don't think she has abilities
Guys how do I fix the black screen on startup?
can you bind lace at all, she's just silk and you use silk to bind...
you could bind lace
can you blind lace
U can try
potentially
what can she do that hornet canโt
Maybe flash bang her or smth
Wait is lace parry better or phantom
other than void
kick
lace for sure
phantomโs parry doesnโt leave them open
oh wait hornet can bind but only needleless
phantom cuz phantom is underated
that's just lace being a lil performative bitch (love her) so she HAS to do a silly little dance or pose after every attack
lace can kick and use her weapon at the same time
bind lace to get a basic needle kick combo
lace canโt do anything that hornet canโt do
hornet is better in every way
and the skyward kick
binding someone does not only give new abilities ๐ญ
hornet would gain nothing from binding lace other than have an overinflated silk meter
holy glaze
the only thing hornet would get is the crest of the brat
when are we getting a weaverling silk skill
Won't binding lace make you more fragile tho
lacelings
which is 7 yellow slots -90% needle dmg binding deals 3 dmg to hornet
but hitting enemies will ragebait them until they die of rage in 3 hits
using my laceling army to destroy absolute gms
bro-
no ๐ญ
hornet's egostical ahh would probably make the lacelings get her headshape
Just call them lays
lacitas
this seems like child abuse
she gets it from her adopted grandma
so are the weaverlings more similar to lace or to weavers
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if hornet equipped weaversong how strong would it become
does she even need it
but probably very strong
since she's stronger than the average weaver I assume
it pays to be a child of the pale king
pale king is a bum
good.
hornet is strong because she worked for her strength
donโt give her deadbeat dad any credit
she stole that shit
she needed to bind another weaver to learn how to RUN
I am the Lorax and I speak for the trees but for some reason thier speaking Vietnamese
Heโs a bum
hes goated
Heโs goated at being a bum
Ngl beating Tormented Trobbio on boss rush mode made me realize just bouncing his balls away makes the fight piss easy
No
Do you want minor spoiler
@round pebble talk to dude at first shrine
They alr know vro
22 fleas + do most if not all quests from the wishboards
I HAVE SEEN ALL THE SPOILERS
If they know about the everbloom
First playthrough tainted by knowledge ๐
Then talk to the caretaker at songclave
First shrine
Ik
If he doesnโt proc, you might have not done required quests
First shrine is more memorable
Do i need to do silk and soul?
Thatโs like the most important one
Pretty much all of them
There are couple ones you donโt have to do like Huntress quest
One you don't need is brood mothers quest
Brood mothers ๐ญ
Istg if SoS is locked to act 2
I don't believe in the rumor but if it is...
oh boy my favorite area ๐คฉ
it has to be act 3
i refuse to believe in anything else if it aint act 3
it would be weird because hornet's in a hurry technically
I will like it would be available in both Acts 2 and 3
How it feels talking to yall sometimes
what if its act 4
THEY TOOK MY IMAGE PERMS
you literally made my ears explode you bum
I DIDNT MEAN TO
with that stupid ass screamer
it wasnโt meant for you
buddy i can still click on it yk
Ik, sorryโฆ
yea hhg is super fucking easy
We need a sequel where you play as a new generation of weavers and the final boss is weaver queen hornet
not happening, everyone fucking died
Ds3slop
Okay
"oh but the part weavers that were mentioned in the cradle!" as if they weren't absorbed by gms
and that would imply weaver queen is canon
Maybe not weavers but the final boss is weaver queen hornet
I still can't believe they added this
all endings are canon
making every single thing that happens in act 3 pointless and non canon
You sweet summer child
And maybe you explore pharlooms ruins
TAKE NOTES TEAM CHERRY
i mean ye it would be if they made the game canon to act 2 ending
they too busy makin zoteboat
this aint it im sorry
This is why tc should've outright removed the shade lord flashes in sister of the void
new hollow knight game where you play as the weaver in weaver den
It just nullifies everything that dream no more achieves
Farming simulator
dnm and etv are both equally canon rn
And explore pharlooms ruins
genuinely got the bot role on this random ahh server ๐
so im a bot
Yeah, but it is pointing more towards etv, and the chance of etv being canon's also not great because of that reason
The slashes are similar, the flashes
the most canon ending is mr mushroom cuz no matter what happens in hk he will always be in silksong
i wouldnt be surprised if tc just forgot tk's shade slashed differently
Please be this please be this
the most canon ending is sealed siblings cuz silksong is a myth
they already forgot voidheart lore i wouldnt put it past them
Eh, i don't think sotv necessarily contradicts it
sealed siblings is canon and silksong is just hornet's coma dream
only the hk initial cutscene is canon because tk just falls and dies
Imagine how confusing this must be to a new fan
it's pretty contradictory for tk to be able tk bend void utterly and completely tk their will only for them to not be able to do that in sotv
sea of sorrow is just urban legend
THK and TK but then there's ghost which is also TK ,TK is a hollow knight but also not hollow and not THK

is ts tuff chat
This isnt necessarily true as we can't just rise up the void in the abyss and do wtv with it, but it is probably a ludonarrative dissonance
And yk, after tk pops no more tendrils keep jumping hornet
Silksong
Why can't we just call TK the protagonist or ghost
the knight's tuffer

theyre nameless most people just use tk
every hk ending is equally canon
Hornet calls them ghost and they like her so
Somebody tell them
Silksong
Shaw
its team cherrys own words silksongs start is left ambiguous for that reason
Silksong is a sequel
Silksong โ๏ธ
bro what
Did you not play the game
Sister of the void heavily implies dnm or etv are canon in that timeline
I meant sequel autocorrect bruh
twisted child is canon
oh right no worries
Do you guys like shawkra
I mean shawkra the ship name
Since silksong is sequel THK and Sealed siblings cannot be cannon
Shakra x hornet
Act 2 and 3 makes sense
oh im not a fan personally
every hollow knight ending is still canon in the same way that all silksong endings are canon, whilst also being contradictory to one another
Then it's less likely to discover act 3
Im quite fund of Le yuri
If you don't have spoilers
they are just alternate possibilities but none is any more 'real'
they can if act 2 endings were canon
Yeah no, THK and Sealed siblings are just not possible
leagues better than lacenet though
THK ,TK is not void hearted,sealed siblings hornet is stuck
we literally see a seal of binding broken in the trailer
we know hornet could possibly get out
shes comatosed
these are literally tcs words bro
Still the knight isn't one with the voif
man this is such a cool scene
Which they reconned
Act 3 and its ending cannot happen after THK and Sealed Siblings
Weaver Queen, sure maybe
why do we accept sotv is the canon ending in silksong
none of the endings can happen without conditions that dont allow the others lol
this logic is inconsistent
She's not centered on the screen
Scene ruined
THK and Sealed siblings is already contradicted by act 3
The only condition that matters is Void Heart
act 3 is an alternate path that may not even occur depending on the path hornet takes
Sealed siblings is contradicted in act 1, THK isn't contradicted until a t 3
And the Knightโs shade being free
Yes and that still doesn't matter because it shows us what happens before
If void knight exists in act 3 ,they exist in act 2
Just not in pharloom
sealed siblings isnt contradicted as we literally know seals of binding can be easily broken by those flies
And how do they get to hallownest
Hornet isnโt looking too good in that ending
also its kind of irrelevant because there isnt anything that makes silksong 'more canon' than endings that make it less likely
hollow knight/silksongs entire story literally relies on decisions that make others impossible but no one is somehow more canon
Wrong
retcons can happen
it is literally equally canon that thk occurred and tk never escaped, just because that is the possibility we see that does not mean it is somehow more real
its not a retcon though it is just how the games have always worked
Void knight isn't possible in THK and Sealed siblings ,act 3 is just continuation of act 2
did u read what i said bro
There are 2 games

bro hasnt played hungry knight
sotv cannot happen if the knight was sealed
Which already eliminates that possibility
Also the rune that breaks at the start of Silksong is a silk rune, broken by a silkfly
but that doesnt matter because it is also possible that the events of silksong dont occur that is just as canon as the opposite
The seal on the Black Egg is different
I find it pointless to think about the lores more than the developers. You should only think up to what the developers were willing to.
I'm crine
Anything else is just stretching for entertainment
these silksong newgens i swear ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Let's make a game but it doesn't happen in the lore "FUCKING GENIUS"
And then they spent 8 years working on it
how do people think silksong is not a sequel
Itโs a prequel because Pale King is there
it is not just a spinoff but a sequel to the orignal featuring hornet after the events of hollow knight's dream no more/embrace the void ending
You can encounter him in Wisp Thicket behind a hidden wall
people change their minds
only dream no more and embrace the void can lead into silksong
i didnt say that though did i mate because they all have equal validity in the lore
referring to tc's words on every hk ending being canon
Yet only one or two timelines are possible
that doesnt matter as ive said a million times
It does
yadda yadda
u could ask the good folks in the lore channel if im not able to convince u
they cannot work around the normal ending and sealed siblings continuing into silksong unless you trick your mind
They'll say the same thing

as who
What Dizzet meant is that Silksong is a continuation from a few of the possible endings in Hollow Knight, which they believe are all equally canon. Thus, making Silksong and an unmade game about what happens after the other endings equally canon. It's just semantics.
One or two timelines are possible
brother
Everything else doesn't matter
what im saying is still the consensus
Semantics argument is so pointless
how can the hollow knight (ending) and sealed siblings lead into silksong though
Idc
u are genuinely just misunderstanding what canon means
it really cannot
Hornet would immediately LEAVE pharloom if thk was cannon
hornet will still serve as the sentinel of hallownest as the radiance will eventually break out once again and sealed siblings is self explanatory
Like she wouldn't even think about it
Silksong is a continuation of some endings. Other endings lead to different scenarios which aren't Silksong.
exactly
that being, radiance dead
Okay so what will the next game be
what
I genuinely don't think the next game will be connected to the new timeline
Just set in the HK universe
No more Hollow Knight series. It will end on Silksong.
? said by team cherry
So no Hollow Knight: Pabloโs Journey
where the pharlid bitches at
The Slab
Pharloom
therefore the canon ending is dream no more
and thats not even true
insane second phase I kinda cooked her
Why are you radioactive
They greened me
High Hall Pantheon retry after sleeping till 4pm
Iโll never get over how toxic the fandom was on release
Anybody else just think about that
Hk went mainstream that's bound to happen
second try wooo
...---... tommorow
yall rate my keyboard
Good if you dont have a mouse i guess
i don't want to decrease my mouse's lifetime by 80%
good if you dont use a keyboard
didn't they patch this out?
Yes, they are playing with qol iirc
Is there anything new in silksong?
Qol lets you get features from older patches without actually downpatching
they should have kept it in tbh
No normal player would use that so their experience wouldnt be ruined
And any experienced player knows what they are doing
Yes.
skipslop
I absolutely agree with you
dude I just failed the swiftmaster race twice in a row I'm washed what am I doing ๐ญ
YO GNG
just run faster
same thing for beast boost
But aside from those the changes have been fire
WHY NO ONE TOLD ME THERE IS A BOSS BEFORE ENTERING THE CITADEL
Wait I wonder if you can get groal skip, statue skip without clawline
Since u can get faydown without clawline
wait hello what are you doing here?
Spoilers are abound
sry
I'm just saying
Probably
there is a danger of spoilers
awesome
how many phases the last judge have at least ๐ญ
Oh and you can even get act 1 groal with pimp pogo
just 2 don't worry
you can figure it out!
12
Or 2 depends on how to count
Not including the guantlet phase
....
ok 
Go near the last judge when they die the door explodes if you defeat them
That one attack where she does the thing but more than normal isnโt a phase change, just a one-time attack
Yeah prob
guy is getting alt f4'd
Guys you know gms failed to have daughters twice right?
what
crawfather was just really saying shit
did you guys hear they retconned years in the hk universe?
silksong ost made this game 10x less stressful
the ambiance is peak in this series
js hit the swift
choral chambers makes me ascend
I love fighting gurr in Act 2 ๐ฅ
What exclusive bosses would you like to have for the godhome of pharloom ?
hello chat.
wait I'm starting to get the hang of this movement...
all the fan remixes are heavenly too
Lost lace 3rd phase
I generally don't like remixes
if i like a track, i like because of how it is
I'm fine with whatever ๐คทโโ๏ธ
A new boss silly
btw did they give gurr another attack?
because I genuenly only remember him having like 2
absll
newer than absrad
sherma and the seamstresss
guy is turning into a tryhard
continuing the metroidvania tradition of tweaking out to run faster
How would sherma even fight
I can imagine it being so with the High Halls OST
Seamstress would be cool tho
Deep docks was enough
I'm hoping they are going to upgrade the lamer bossfights in the pantheons or whatever
they better make the peak ones peaker
Yo chat
Is this thing attractive by bug standarts or just larp seeker standarts?
of course
I wouldn't have it any other way
50/50
I'm pretty sure most bugs are repulsed by the flukes
"Alluring god of motherhood"
whatever happens in godhome stays in godhome
Nahhhh shittiest "hear me out" ever in world of hollow knight
Are we talking about hear me outs? Can I say mine?
No wonder larp seeker was locked inside a cocoon flowing down the sewers of hallownest
attractive by fluke standarts
im trying to do something similar but do you let go off the direction when the pogo starts?
I KNEW IT, THE DUMB SEEKERS ARE FLUKES IN DISGUISE
flukemarm's the indiscutible worst boss
Oblobbles, winged nosk, marmu
Okay hear me out in something,just a theory of mine or idk,I want opinions (let me write it)
anyone got more unconventional dlc vishes?
not even nearly as terrible
Lost lace 3rd phase
and more dialogues that arent related to the main content in SOS like they did with grimm troupe
also a qol dlc (preferably old pharloom)
... as the Unravelled
not even CLOSE, the unravelled's spears are pretty fun
unraveled is not even that bad
Tho it is one of the bosses that could use a touch up
it's bad, but not THAT bad
It's a 1k hp 2x dmg truck
the unravelled hitboxes are ass ik
So Lace was quite literally put to sleep by Hornet ๐ญ๐ญ
beastfly 1 and big skull guy in the marrow are pretty meh
And there is zango
Zango and palestag are down there but they at least try something
volrworm is pretty bad too but I enjoyed it
I like these experimental fights, they just need more sauce put into them I think
flukemarm's a big hitbox that summons annoying enemies that dont pose any kind of threat most of the time
Which had better developed bosses? Hollow Knight or Silksong
silksong def
flukemarm really is just a rest period when you know how to use cyclone slash
Thr larpseekers are so downbad for her
"god" btw
I've heard that hk bosses' moves are complete rng, but ss bosses attack depending on what is the best choice
Silksong's bosses def spent more time in the oven (most of them anyways)

A bunch of caterpillars forming a giant pile of moss is apparently a "god"
Let's not forget the "false god conjured by the lonely"
๐ฅ ๐ฅ
i think nyleth destroying the floor was very cool
Depends.
LMAO, but the child of 2 gods and a void isn't a god till they kick the radiance's ass?
Yeah unlike Markoth doing it
I'm realizing my theory doesn't make much sense, I'd better delete it
2 gods, 1 void
there is a different context there with floorless markoth being like side content
while nyleth does it in the base game
Nyleth's a good boss unlike markoth
all the memory bosses are cool and I don't care what some people say about khan
Tc otw to make dream warriors range from mid to shit and then making the radiance the ultimate culmination of them
Palestag
we don't talk about palehag
Ngl Bilewater is getting the deepnest treatment in hollow knight
Deepnest is bad yeah but it isn't close to crystal peaks level of bad though
what did crystal peaks do to you man
crystal peaks and bad...
bilewater's a top 5 area in the series
Deepnest is nothing more than just the zone manifestation of Markoth
the ultimate poison swamp
Crystal peaks probably destroyed more ss runs than deepnest has ever done
Miyazakislop but it's actually good and has a reason to be
Miyazaki hate in this economy was unexpected
i like all poison swamp areas as a concept
I don't know why people would call them slop
Always did
Cui theyre annoying
They're usually annoying and just not fun
But in my opinion necessary
Exactly
Why though, I heard elden rings is a decent game
I think certain games need some areas that just make the player miserable
I've played through 3 of his games (the best ones aswell) and yk, every single one of them have such glaring flaws
Yes indeed
Stardew Valley doesn't deservesuch massacre ๐ฅ๐ฅ
Meh
Runback?
I hate the runbacks
steel soul mode is there
The longest or the shortest runback
Depends on your mood
Runbacks (mostly gone for elden ring but OOH GOD placidusax), farming shit, (heals or spirit medals for bloodborne and sekiro, sekiro's much more manageable with them though), cancerous zones, shit bosses (sekiro has 1 but wtv)
Has anyone ever lost to any totk bosses (except ganondorf)?
I am sure Silksong also has the same complaints
also the lore is usually extremely obscure and you won't get the whole picture on a 1st blind playthrough
Mhm, silksong's inspired by soulslikes
I think most people like this
Exactly
I guess, but sometimes you'd like to understand something crucial to the story easily
part 1 btw
This is the reason why someone can make a yt career just about talking videogame lore, like mossbag
(who also gets shit wrong as some things are left up to interpretation)
Dont talk about mossbag like that hes the goat
Because they have no followup