sk-discussion

[humble cave]

twins

[civic island]

✌🏿

[brave geyser]

okay but what about someone who just wants the true ending

[humble cave]

didnt even think of this lmao but yeah i agree

[lavish apex]

because act 3 has some god tier content

[brave geyser]

Since 100% is basically tool collecting slop

[civic island]

They gotta grind 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[brave geyser]

the true ending is the only really interesting part

[civic island]

Ah

[earnest drift]

the wish list for act 3 isn't mandatory to beat the game

[civic island]

About tools

I love voltvessel so fking much

[brave geyser]

Wdym

[humble cave]

100% of any game is gonna be grindy (+its entirely optional, if you dont wanna spend time collecting tools then you probably shouldnt )

[earnest drift]

act 2 has its own ending

[brave geyser]

112% of hk was like 20 hours shorter than this

And way more fun

[lavish apex]

red memory, karmelita, seth, lost lace, the actual ending
you have to slog through a checklist of bullshit to get there and it's just so annoying on a replay. this is the biggest reason i like hk1 more

[civic island]

Cuz hk was way more basic

[humble cave]

anyways my time has come cause this conversation is gradually namedropping more and more things ive never heard so i will DIP before i break my several-month streak of remaining spoiler free

[humble cave]

much smaller game so thats natural

[astral olive]

Literally hours of the same caves and same enemies with no forward progress. I hated Hollow Knight for, like, a few weeks before I was able to start making progress by sheer happenstance

[civic island]

Bye bye

[humble cave]

[brave geyser]

• way more fun

[civic island]

I like silksong more

The vibe and the world

[humble cave]

(subjectively 😛 )

[civic island]

Its js peak experience

[brave geyser]

No don't worry i like silksong more too but 100% is very boring

[lavish apex]

i don't get this just look for empty spaces on the map

[brave geyser]

So you think doing sick bosses and challenges is less fun than sitting in some bell tunnels for a couple of minutes for a bunch of bells to drop

I really don't see the vision

[astral olive]

A big thing about silksong is that skilled play knocks playtime down by at least half.

Not even knowing were to go or do but just how to fight and maneuver.

[humble cave]

already did the bells and it didnt even take 10 minutes

[brave geyser]

silksong is cool and i like it way more than hk but some parts are just a huge slog

[humble cave]

seems like more of an attention span problem

silksong didnt exactly remove sick bosses and challenges

[astral olive]

I love the bosses

[humble cave]

i adore the bosses

honestly fighting the most basic enemies is rlly fun if you use the combat "correctly"

[astral olive]

I also love that there's a lot less "just animals but big*

[astral olive]

Finally! Someone who gets it!!

[still osprey]

even some "animals but big" bosses are cool tbh, I really like Raging Conchfly

[humble cave]

yeah alot of the non-boss enemies in hk was kinda
uncreative dont get me wrong alot of them had really cool designs but for the most part it was just "bug with orange"

[earnest drift]

raging conchfly is amazing

[brave geyser]

Locked them behind the same quest rinsed and repeated like 5 different times tho
Literally (pilgrim shawl. Cloaks of the choir, fine pins, crawbug clearing, silver bells just because it's silver bells)

[astral olive]

The enemies in silksong know how to fight!

[earnest drift]

moorwing is another big beast i like

[brave geyser]

Groal is a top 1 change my mind

[still osprey]

Moorwing is an extremely good Act 1 boss

it's like a skill check for the skill check (Widow)

[humble cave]

i remember everyone despised the moorwing on release but i still dont understand WHY 😭

[astral olive]

Bug with orange that bump you.

[humble cave]

like it was such a fun boss the way it was

[brave geyser]

Sotrue

[astral olive]

Silksong has swordplay

[earnest drift]

it's tough

[brave geyser]

I actually don't understand how the hell

[twin summit]

🫡

[humble cave]

oh how i loved widow
most fun boss ive had the pleasure of fighting in almost game so far

[astral olive]

An assumption that they could face tank it.

[humble cave]

i really liked the "random bullshit GO!" feeling of the last phase

[astral olive]

Rather than fight it

[still osprey]

Widow's last phase is soooo good

[humble cave]

phantom is a close second in this game for me but it'd take a crazy ass boss to top widow imo

[still osprey]

There is no feeling like thinking you finally beat Widow after a number of attempts only to get hit by the second phase

[earnest drift]

widow is an S tier boss in the early game

[astral olive]

If you're patient you realize it isnt random 🙂

[brave geyser]

phantom mentioned omg

[humble cave]

hopefully ill be surprised as i progress

[exotic cedar]

Widow is the best act 1 boss

[astral olive]

Appropriate for a Weaver fight

[still osprey]

Phantom is my personal favorite Act 1 boss but Widow is a solid number 2

[astral olive]

My favorite is Last Judge

[brave geyser]

Purely because of the needolin dialouge fs

[humble cave]

oh god i still remember wandering thru the mist for almost an HOUR cause i didnt realize you got hints of where to go 😭

it got to the point where i was delusionally thinking the music got louder in certain rooms and tried to follow THAT

[brave geyser]

mine is savage beastfly that guy is fun to speedkill

[brave geyser]

Okay now how the hell

and why does that actually sound interesting

[humble cave]

at midnight nonetheless

[astral olive]

Delusions are fun like that

[still osprey]

the music does get louder!

... as long as you're following the right path 🔥

[humble cave]

yeah well
i wasnt 😭
and i could still SWEAR i heard it getting louder

[brave geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[humble cave]

it wasnt until i had followed the same direction for like 20 mins that i realized this MIGHT not be what im after

[astral olive]

I like the Craws

I like their fighting style

[brave geyser]

Funny thing the game doesn't let you progress if you didn't use needolin even if you picked the right path

[astral olive]

I like their look

[brave geyser]

i like it just because of the || crawfather rework ||

I was so confused when one of the attacks that used to do double damage just didn't

and had a way smaller hitbox too

[humble cave]

oh boy am i excited to hop back on silksong
last time i played i was on my second visit to bilewater
and
im not someone who gets mad at videogames (330 hrs on elden ring, only ever gotten pissed at like 3 bosses, nearly 500 hours on geometry dash and not one proper rage, played through all of rain world and most of its dlc)
but
cities will BURN if my return to bilewater goes the way it did last time i played 😭 😭

[astral olive]

Cause people complained 🙁

I like double damage

[slow slate]

hmmm dlc

[twin summit]

double damage makes double the fun

[astral olive]

No joke agreed

It gives things spice

[humble cave]

same
it made you brush off the playstyle of tanking everything that alot of people had

[brave geyser]

I wasn't annoyed by it at first i was genuinely so confused
But still fatfuck craws lowk still shouldn't be allowed to just sit on you

[humble cave]

well the ppl who complained DIDNT brush off that playstyle ig but still

ppl called it artificial difficulty but i feel like its genuinely just
how it should be 😭

artificial difficulty is making enemies oneshot you and require 5x the dmg to die

[astral olive]

Silksong is a game you can play so ineffectively as to be counted as wrong

[brave geyser]

alot of people were discussing that games like hk and sk wouldn't be affected if they had difficulty options

which to this day i still don't see the vision

like how would that even work

[humble cave]

its kinda hard to make difficulty options without slowing down enemies or changing their attacks
considering the hp system uses masks and not % or some big number

[lavish apex]

double damage on bosses was a necessary design decision

[humble cave]

so you cant just go "-20% incoming dmg" or something with hk

[humble cave]

si

[lavish apex]

double damage on half of the normal enemies that have it is ass

[humble cave]

i like the double dmg on normal enemies but i dont think it should be double dmg on regular contact

THAT is kinda annoying
especially when some environmental obstacles do double dmg

[brave geyser]

We all hate double contact damage

[astral olive]

People got mad at the Craw gauntlet. I went in expecting horrors and beat it first time cause I actually treated it like a fight between peer fighters.

If you take the fights seriously as fights the game is a lot easier.

[lavish apex]

some enemies like the miniboss types and a few other attacks on others should have it

[humble cave]

exactly

high halls arena took me a loooong time but i had fun with it

[twin summit]

i like it (i never get hit so i wouldnt know tbh [sarcasm])

[lavish apex]

pharlid divers and underlofts should not

[humble cave]

craw gauntlet was easy to me
again, because people were hyping it up to be pantheon 6

[brave geyser]

No joke i beat karamel fourth try and i genuinely thought i was overprepared or something

I was using REAPER

[lavish apex]

i wouldn't hate wraiths nearly as much as i do if they didn't have it either

[astral olive]

I have used Hunter for both of my playthroughs

[brave geyser]

hunter is goated yes

[astral olive]

Other crests have disadvantages that Hunter just lacks

[brave geyser]

Iam trying all crests on all bosses soon. So far what i gathered from wiitch is that it kind of isn't too strong without tools

[astral olive]

Speed, aerial dominance

That's hunter

[brave geyser]

it's alright but like not wanderer's levels of good

[astral olive]

Fight like a Bee and you win

[brave geyser]

and wanderer is a low bar apparently

[brave geyser]

I wish i had that father of the flame clip

[still osprey]

you know, I never realized how many there were until now

[gaunt skiff]

We have the same profile picture

[astral olive]

It's nice

[lavish apex]

it's good art!

[still osprey]

yea it's awesome

[brave geyser]

you seeing this shit

motherfucker

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1459378311015956687/Screenrecorder-2026-01-04-09-56-33-971.mp4?ex=69c892f7&is=69c74177&hm=557e51bcdfc8851c6ebb8b382ae7ecebe305f55388270ea2af577a2ab8418b5e&

[unkempt steeple]

Lugoli ain't even gay just fat

[still osprey]

they're referred to with they/them by hunter's journal and mergwin

[hexed sonnet]

flea dodge genuinely easier than flea juggle

[unkempt steeple]

They ate their pronouns

[still osprey]

[lavish apex]

i wish i could like silksong more than hk

[astral olive]

Aerial. Dominance.

Hornet is a Bee.

[brave geyser]

i see the vision

[unkempt steeple]

Not really hard, hk is basically trash after silksong

[lavish apex]

quite hard for me

[astral olive]

Hollow Knight feels like a prototype.

[brave geyser]

I would place silksong above hk if it wasn't for the act 3 wishlist taking longer than the second coming of jesus

[astral olive]

Slow, clunky, but inventive

[exotic cedar]

Definetly not trash

Silksong and hk is equal for me

[astral olive]

Hollow Knight wouldn't have a sequel if it was trash

[unkempt steeple]

https://x.com/i/status/2037395746006384751

Flamescales29 (@flamescales29)

I’m glad Hornet inherited her father’s mental condition of having platforming sections in her brain

X · Mar 27, 2026, 5:06 AM

[lavish apex]

hk is not clunky, if you think that you haven't played many metroidvanias

[brave geyser]

good one tho

[brave geyser]

gpz is certainly not clunky hence why he's the best boss ever

[lavish apex]

it nails gamefeel better than every other one i've played, except for silksong which iterates on that aspect perfectly

[still osprey]

the knight did too with the abyss climb

[brave geyser]

it just runs in the family huh

[still osprey]

does the radiance count for thk like there are platforms

[astral olive]

Hollow Knight, mechanically, is clunky.

Basically the entire enemy roster and boss design have to be built around how clunky the Knight is to play.

[lavish apex]

i do not think that in the slightest

[hexed sonnet]

WHY ISNT THE CLAWLINE WORKING IN FLEA DODGE

[brave geyser]

because fuck you sideways

[hexed sonnet]

there is a solid 2 second latency before the clawline shoots by which its game over

[brave geyser]

You could try to stall with clawline if you do fall

... That's how i won flea dodge everytime. Actually.

[hexed sonnet]

and it always gets over at 60 when i need 66

[lavish apex]

swift step is a big improvement for sure but that does not mean that hk is clunky. it has some of the most fluid and responsive and consistent-feeling movement in any game i've played. silksong ALSO does but makes it faster and a bit more flexible which is fantastic

[brave geyser]

yea i like comboing abilities in hk

[orchid spruce]

66? That's almost

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246412435292946456/1477371931912306718/yi67.gif

[brave geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[tacit relic]

You probably see time in slowmo.

[hexed sonnet]

i need 2 more mask shards and idk what i have and what i dont

i need the fucking pale oil but its behind the flea games

[brave geyser]

Brightvein and gurr

[lavish apex]

outside of swift step vs dash and additional options like clawline and drifter's cloak there is virtually no difference in how the knight and hornet control

[hexed sonnet]

i got those

[brave geyser]

surprising

[hexed sonnet]

2 more

[brave geyser]

bilewater and slab

[hexed sonnet]

i got slab idk about bilewater

[brave geyser]

Well the room for that one has a one of a kind enemy there

!wiki slubberbugs

[lavish apex]

and needing to learn dash spacing is fine as a point of skill expression

[brave geyser]

what the hell was their name anyway

[hexed sonnet]

!wiki

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Hollow_Knight_Wiki

Hollow Knight Wiki

Hollow Knight Wiki

Affiliates

Individual Affiliates

[brave geyser]

!wiki Slubberlugs

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Slubberlug
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Slubberlugs for a direct link or !wiki search Slubberlugs for a list of all hits.

Hollow Knight Wiki

Slubberlug

Slubberlugs are enemies in Hollow Knight: Silksong. They are the adolescent form of the Muckroach.

Health

22

Drops

None

Damage Modifiers

1    1    1    1    1

Journal kills

12

Singing

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Slubberlug_Sing.ogg

[brave geyser]

there we go

[lavish apex]

it's also fine that silksong doesn't have that

[hexed sonnet]

ive seen these guys but idk about a mask hmm

[brave geyser]

well they are literally only in the mask shard room

[exotic cedar]

At the end of the room there's a mask shard

[twin summit]

i love these guys

[hexed sonnet]

i'll check it then

[brave geyser]

not the mask shard itself just a path of like 2 long roads of hell

[strange knot]

I hate those guys

[brave geyser]

Shit yourself

[twin summit]

cant rn

[brave geyser]

god damn it

gadget it's not that deep i know it's weird that the dash ignores gravity

[teal ridge]

Hello

[brave geyser]

hii

[strange knot]

Hii I hate you

[astral olive]

Hornet is much less glacial movementwise, even at game start. Being able to mantle ledges makes the sheer act of maneuvering just miles better than the Knight.

You can blaze through maps if you know how to utilize manteling and jumping even before you get the dash. The dash and sprint just makes it faster and adds even more tools to your maneuvering toolkit.

[teal ridge]

I hate you too

[lavish apex]

ledgegrabs do not make the game feel faster in any meaningful way

[strange knot]

Ledgegrabs are actually slower than just landing on a platform

[lavish apex]

exactly

[still osprey]

Honestly I was so scared the ledgegrab would feel terrible to play with

I have no idea how team cherry managed to make a ledge grab feel good

[dusky bloom]

Buying shard bundles is such a pain

[strange knot]

True, it does feel good

[lavish apex]

it feels fine but there is no practical difference it just looks cooler

[earnest drift]

do you think sprinting ruins the game

[exotic cedar]

Sprinting is good

[teal ridge]

I like ledge grabs. I think ghe reason hornet can do and knight cant is that hornet has arms while knight has 2 short fingers he uses as arms

[astral olive]

they keep momentum going.

The ledgegrab means you can maneuver up collections of ledges at speed without breaking stride.

[strange knot]

Sprinting is goated

[earnest drift]

the knight is too weak to support its own weight despite weighing less than hornet

[lavish apex]

of all the things about silksong's movement i missed on my s2e hk playthroughs ledge grabbing didn't even cross my mind

[timid valve]

Or ledge grabbing is a virtue of the strong-willed

[still osprey]

I really want to do some kind of playthrough where I switch between hk and ss when I do smth but I don't have many ideas

[lavish apex]

sprinting is fantastic

[still osprey]

ss archipelago will fix me

[earnest drift]

but sometimes being slower feels good

[lavish apex]

who would ever say it "ruins the game"

[earnest drift]

i'm sure someone somewhere said it sometime

[teal ridge]

Actually youre right. In the void memory knight was at the edge of the enterance of the abbys enterance. And he fell

Maybe thats why he doesnt ledge grabs anymore. He is embarrased of reliving that moment

[timid valve]

Imagine a hk mod that features sprinting and ledge-grabbing

[strange knot]

Knight has almost no emotions how the fuck would they be embarrassed😭

[earnest drift]

hornet is like playing as a cat
the knight is like playing as a balloon filled with gaseous lead

[still osprey]

Imagine an hk mod that lets you play as Hornet similar to the knight in silksong mod

[lavish apex]

this isn't even slightly fair

[earnest drift]

can lead even be a gas

[timid valve]

I think there is one WIP

[astral olive]

There's a practical difference when you dont have to make solid jumps. You can go from a ledgegrab, into a jump, hit another grab and continue upward. You can effectively use shorter, faster jumps instantly rather than needing to land then jump.

[still osprey]

the knight is so floaty I am so not used to it anymore

[teal ridge]

You cant do the sections that requires long crystall dashes.

[earnest drift]

ok it can

[timid valve]

Maybe clawline

[lavish apex]

landing then jumping is also a near instantaneous process

in these games

it really does not make a difference to me

[teal ridge]

There was a part with a small hole with spikes around. That you crystall dash it

Imagine if hornet could obtain abilities like crystal dash or the soul abilities

[lavish apex]

given the startup on ledge jumping it is basically indistinguishable from having lower platform heights which hk does. i simply do not care about that mechanic

[astral olive]

I can tell.

I'm just a Silksong technical movement dork. 😆

It genuinely shocked me at first honestly.

[twin summit]

whos gonna tell him 💔

[teal ridge]

Reverse of that happeend to me. I played silksong before hollow knight and i was shocked to see knight moves so SLOW.

[lavish apex]

it is stylish, i will grant that

[astral olive]

Like, the movement mechanics allow you to skip large chunks of the platforming effectively at will while knowing exactly how you did it.

It's fun! 🙂

[lavish apex]

hunter pogo would have been a much better example

because that actually does make a practical difference

[astral olive]

To you.

[runic dagger]

Bro what?? 😭

[twin summit]

it took longer than 1 year for ss to release

[timid valve]

Let's hope that Sea of Sorrow will feature underwater swimming.

[astral olive]

I love Hornets little swim animations

[runic dagger]

Yeah im hella surprised u found that msg from so long ago LOL

[twin summit]

i just jumped to the oldest pinned message, lol. yours was the first i saw after scrolling

[astral olive]

Giving credit, Knight feels... stately, in its movement. Very deliberate.

[lavish apex]

ok
can you produce a concrete example of a room that you can traverse faster (by more than like 2 seconds) by spamming ledge jumps instead of normal ones

[timid valve]

Bellhome

[astral olive]

The final gauntlet leading up to the last Judge

[timid valve]

-# Thought you meant "a room that you can traverse under 2 seconds"

[astral olive]

Can turn that from a minute long hell crawl to a 20 second sprint that skips basically everything.

[lavish apex]

the actual speedrun movement for that room uses exactly 1 ledge jump

[twilit lichen]

Finally got double jump

[astral olive]

And it makes it considerably faster if you know what your doing compared to making the jump in full.

[still osprey]

I want to play silksong

[astral olive]

Do it then, coward! 😄

[twilit lichen]

What now i can't use cloak

[still osprey]

But consider- I don't want to get out of bed

[lavish apex]

i do not think so considering they immediately dash to a wall in the other direction following that

[astral olive]

?

Okay I have to see this.

[lavish apex]

https://youtu.be/3UUHXDzWgZw?si=x7SOZwb_vOzq48eA&t=27m20s

[twilit lichen]

How do I get out of mount fay now

[still osprey]

By going back to the slab

[lavish apex]

click the actual link, i timestamped it

[twilit lichen]

Our little Einstein

[hollow cedar]

How often have silksong patches been released thus far? Like a month apart?

[timid valve]

More and more rare. Now there's not going to be any before the DLC

[hollow cedar]

What do you mean more and more rare?

[lavish apex]

ok actually there are two, and the second one puts them in position to pogo the judge so ig that is an example

[vast plover]

Hi

It is a butiful day

[astral olive]

They also did some unnecessary platforming at the end there.

[vast plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick marten]

hi guys what is going on

[vast plover]

I wait on my car and you ?

[hybrid flare]

I mean they're bugs they differentiate from us and they have their cultures

[thick marten]

bored out of my mind

[lavish apex]

i still do not think the nonexistence of that in hk contributes to "clunkiness" in any way

because obviously it's designed to not need it

silksong also largely is even though it exists as an option

[smoky bridge]

Jump off right, or go left? What kinda question is that?

[unkempt steeple]

Clunkyslop

"You're not supposed to have fun"

[lavish apex]

epic win dude

updoot

[unkempt steeple]

Thank you

[still osprey]

hk is just qualityslop you only like it cuz it's good

[unkempt steeple]

Hk is dashslop

[ocean kestrel]

qualityslop

[unkempt steeple]

Honestly still so thankful they turned dash into a continous sprint and removed shade dash as a main ability

[lavish apex]

don't engage with the idea just call it (word)slop

silksong is questslop

grindslop

[unkempt steeple]

I love quests in silksong

[lavish apex]

how about that

[verbal swallow]

sup guys

[lavish apex]

i can be snarky too

[unkempt steeple]

Snarkyslop

[verbal swallow]

is that naoya zenin

[unkempt steeple]

Yes

[verbal swallow]

cursed spirit or sorcerer

[unkempt steeple]

Bubble pop elctric from those jjk edits

[hybrid flare]

videogames are mindcontrolslop go read a book and stop spending 494$ on coffee

[unkempt steeple]

Sorcerer

[verbal swallow]

ok

[hybrid flare]

I love sending young people to war to have my 6th yacht

[unkempt steeple]

Silksong is acctually a modern karl marx

Hornet dumd as hell why did she need to be taught how to build sting shards again

[hallow flame]

I wish we could fight the shade lord [or the knight] as a new infection tbh

[unkempt steeple]

New infection?

[verbal swallow]

why tf does hornet need crests to change moveset can't she just move like she wants dude

[unkempt steeple]

Also needing to bind another weaver to get the ability to... run

[hallow flame]

Yes aka the one from hk and the void whitch a bad idea since I just thought about it rn

[unkempt steeple]

I guess crests allow her to move differently than she usually can

[verbal swallow]

can't she just move freely?

[unkempt steeple]

Guess not

[verbal swallow]

lol

[hallow flame]

Yes I think but the game makes us

[unkempt steeple]

Also crests might change her phisically

She aborbs the crest corpses seemingly

[still osprey]

Crests are basically someone's nature

[hallow flame]

Or do crest make her into another spirit or sum

[unkempt steeple]

Same with widow and gms

[verbal swallow]

why tf does hornet need to bind a weaver to throw her needle

[hallow flame]

To learn it from them

[verbal swallow]

tf

[unkempt steeple]

Weirdly she had already learned how to connect her needle to a silk strand when she got silk spear

[steep jolt]

hornet got a lobotomy when she fell so she needs to learn simple shit

[unkempt steeple]

But I guess she needed to learn how do it again?

[astral olive]

Less ability to maneuver leads to a feeling of clunkiness.

Silksong effectively has more ways to smoothly move around.

Silksong has a more mechanically complex and smooth movement system, which leads to Hornet, when played well, feeling much more fast and graceful than the knight.

Being able to mantle and continue movement at speed and transfer from a mantle into a jump, whether on or away from direction of movement helps with that because momentum is constant.

[unkempt steeple]

No wonder she forgot all her abilities inbettween games she forgets them mid game

[hallow flame]

Yes because at the beginning of act 1 she gets caged and I think it made her forget everything

[hallow flame]

It would be fun if we could fight the knight when we were at the same point of fighting hornet so act 1 and 2

[hybrid flare]

I can't play hk anymore that shit is too slow

[hallow flame]

Same I'm too lazy to get out and in and out godhome

[icy crow]

Hornet became severely weakened from the rune cage and only got out because a random Silkfly decided to touch the cage for the funnies

[unkempt steeple]

Having to spam dash when hornet keeps running by just holding a button

[icy crow]

She states early in the game she's been heavily weakened but can regain her abilities over time

[unkempt steeple]

Also you never realize how much you use float until you don't have

[icy crow]

Basically relearns them via Weaver Spires

[hallow flame]

Ah

[still osprey]

let's be so fr that silkfly was NOT random

[unkempt steeple]

Until double jump (and even after) being in the air makes the knight feel like a brick

[hybrid flare]

This isn't really true as she gets many more abilities

[unkempt steeple]

It was me

[astral olive]

When moving in Silksong, there's a stop in momentum if you just jump. If your moving at speed and you make a full landing, you break a sprint and need to dash to regain momentum. A mantle doesnt stop Hornets momentum even after a jump, she just keeps sprinting.

[icy crow]

Or was it?

[hallow flame]

Nope it was @last pasture

[icy crow]

She does learn exclusive new abilities but half of them are just relearning her lost ones back from Hallownest

Sylphsong is the only exclusive ability there apparently

[hybrid flare]

I mean its quite different from binding spires

Also idk if she had silk soar in hk

[astral olive]

Basically, Hornet is as graceful as water if played correctly.

[icy crow]

She did. There's cutscenes where she soars out

[astral olive]

The Knight. Is not that

[hybrid flare]

it's not as potent

Maybe because magic silk as a whole wasnt a concept in hk

Not wielded by hornet at least, weavers did make runes

[astral olive]

That and she was built around being able to lose to the Knight's less than stellar combat abilities

[hybrid flare]

the knight is absurdly op

[smoky bridge]

It is implied that Lace sprung her out.

[astral olive]

Only at the very end.

The knight is terribad in a fight.

[icy crow]

Chronologically wise, the Weavers did move to Hallownest sometime before Pharloom's decay, so it could be that soul imbued silk has started to be developed from there

[hybrid flare]

Ye but they're hella resilient

[icy crow]

The Silkfly was the one that removed the rune though, making the cage vulnerable

[smoky bridge]

I think the version skills she learns in Pharloom are better than her original ones.

[icy crow]

As for why, I don't know how the hell it did

[hybrid flare]

Im talking about hk hornet, she doesn't have that

[smoky bridge]

Yeah, and we see Lace conduct silk flies in the first encounter.

[icy crow]

Silk Soar or Sylphsong?

[hybrid flare]

She probably learnt how to do that with age idfk

[hybrid flare]

Soulsilk

[smoky bridge]

Gossamer Storm seems much weaker than Silk storm.

[hybrid flare]

cling is the same exact shit

[astral olive]

She can manipulate silk from the beginning

[hybrid flare]

Yes but it's visibly clearly not soul

[smoky bridge]

I didnaye say all of em.

[icy crow]

I'd guess she's already filled with soul beforehand but never actually acknowledged proper usage of it

[hybrid flare]

Or she, yk, grew

[astral olive]

... soul is how you manipulate silk

Thats how it can move

[icy crow]

Spot on. Silk is produced through soul from Weavers

[lilac dawn]

Hello chat

[hybrid flare]

It was regular silk

[smoky bridge]

She's just worse at it in HK because she never had to throw hands with actually powerful enemies.

[hybrid flare]

The silksoul concept as a whole wasn't a thing

[smoky bridge]

Silk is soul

But yeah at the time it was not conceptualised the same way

[astral olive]

And now it is retroactively

[hybrid flare]

In silksong it is, but in hk it's good old regular string

[smoky bridge]

Yeah retcon be continuiting retroactively

[icy crow]

Did you know that Plasmified Zango was once in Howling Cliffs? Click to find out more...

[astral olive]

Soul is how bugs manipulate silk. Its how the Bugs of the Citadel can do Gossomer storm

[hybrid flare]

It's really not a retcon i think, not a meaningful one

[astral olive]

It is.

[hybrid flare]

The weavers did make suspiciously glowing runes

[smoky bridge]

Anything that adds Information to past events is a retcon.
Retcons aren't bad

[steep jolt]

lace commanded the silkfly there as she is the commander of them because she wanted to kill hornet for her ego

[hybrid flare]

you can find one in their nest

[hybrid flare]

I know

Im looking for an explanation as to why the weavers made runes that glow white

[icy crow]

That's another possibility and it sounds like a more accurate one

[smoky bridge]

Soul runes with silk.

[steep jolt]

they are prolly made of silk

[smoky bridge]

Duh

[astral olive]

The Weavers being the ones who basically gave the Pale King the ability to do any of his freaky science has been a thing since Hollow Knight.

[hybrid flare]

Therefore soulsilk was actually a thing and it's not a retcon

[steep jolt]

rune = silk and soul
seal = dream essence

[astral olive]

Everything he did was built from their magitech in one way or another

[unkempt steeple]

how the hell did caretaker survive while walking through the haunted cidadel, get into the cradel somehow and also climb cradle???

[smoky bridge]

We get more information about it. It was not clarified fully, now it is far more clarified.

[hybrid flare]

This isn't even true what, he probably took their craftsmanship with runes but the guy had infinite soul

[steep jolt]

how did sherma

[smoky bridge]

Shaman trickses.

[hybrid flare]

But it's nothing new

[steep jolt]

the caretaker was probably there before the haunting

[lavish apex]

again, i agree that hornet's movement is better than the knight's. that's because of swift step. i still think mantling is pretty much irrelevant and i object to calling hk clunky over that

[smoky bridge]

He needed the runes for eeg

[hybrid flare]

It was established before

[unkempt steeple]

they senced his inherent evilness and spared him

[smoky bridge]

But nothing else is necessary tbh.

[steep jolt]

no he used seals

thats like day 1 hallownest knowledge

[lavish apex]

it just isn't, it has never felt that way to me and it never will even though the extra speed in silksong is very fun and satisfying and better

[icy crow]

Are we finally getting a shinespark method in Zoteboat?

[lavish apex]

from swift step

[smoky bridge]

They are weaver seals that's half the reason he had hornet.

[lavish apex]

and hunter pogo

[steep jolt]

hrrah was the seal

[smoky bridge]

There are literally weaver seals on the chains.

[steep jolt]

???

[smoky bridge]

You can see em.

When you break the chains.

[steep jolt]

i never got to the hk i only did godhome runs so ive never went in the black egg temple

[smoky bridge]

[hybrid flare]

what the fuck

[smoky bridge]

Then fuck you talking bout

[steep jolt]

i fought pv tho so basically the same

[icy crow]

Did you know that Zote can do the Space Jump from Metroid?

[smoky bridge]

[steep jolt]

zote can do anything

[unkempt steeple]

honestly I think the worst aspect of egg of flealia is that it doesn't even have interesting or strong ability, like required full health for one less silk strand required for silk skills? Literally what other crest is this supposed to be good for outside shaman, it's like how claw mirrors feel like a witch only tool (beast too kind of)

[icy crow]

Did you know his Life Ender can be upgraded ten times, scaling to a grand total of 1 damage? (0.1 each level)

[lavish apex]

it is good exclusively for making cross stitch silk management easier in nohit attempts

on other crests

[smoky bridge]

Mirrors work great with Beast.

[astral olive]

His divine might means all of nothing. Near every thing to do with Hallownestian high technology grew out of the treaty giving Hallownest access to Weaver magics, from the robots to the runic wardings.

He iterated on them, but they were not his ideas and he spent considerable political capital getting them because he could not do it on his own.

[lavish apex]

really it shouldn't have that condition at all

[hybrid flare]

What??? The kingsmould?? hello?

[unkempt steeple]

what if it was like flukenest where it changed your silk skills into mini fleas

[smoky bridge]

The kingsmould is shittier than Weaver bots, which is funny.

[steep jolt]

no his life ender is forged from pure pale ore polished with pale oil and has a fragment of every major higher being (pale king, void guy, radiance, unn, gms, nightmare heart, etc) in it he just holds back because hes that kind

[smoky bridge]

PK was probably so mad

[smoky bridge]

"THEY MADE IT IN A CAVE! WITH A BUNCH OF SILK!"

[astral olive]

Iteration on Weaver robotics.

And yes, kinda crap

[steep jolt]

the weavers helped pale king create kingsmoulds

[lavish apex]

it would be like a top 3 tool in that case probably but also that makes sense because it's something you can only get at the ass end of act 2 or later for completing a major collection category

[hybrid flare]

This isn't confirmed nor implied at all

or is it?

[lavish apex]

it should be better than it is

[smoky bridge]

Can you get egg act 2? Didn't you need Silk soar for a few fleas?

[icy crow]

Or maybe he has beef with one specific guy and just wants to use it on them

[hexed sonnet]

i genuinely spent 45 minutes doing flea juggle 😭

[lavish apex]

no, all are obtainable with just faydown

[smoky bridge]

Wth

[hexed sonnet]

atleast thats over with

[smoky bridge]

I think I am misremembering stuff then.

[icy crow]

Five Nights at Kratt's

[lavish apex]

you would be yeah

[smoky bridge]

Thinking about Wyrm on a string Hornet

Red floof

[astral olive]

The Weavers got so entrenched in Hallownest that silk was used for writing instead of clay.

Thats how much the Weavers just punched in the doors and turned Hallownestian science upside down.

[graceful oyster]

[smoky bridge]

Mmmm Iunno.

[steep jolt]

they would NOT be called hallownestian

[smoky bridge]

Yeah I agree.

[astral olive]

Hallownesters? 🙂

[hybrid flare]

Soul tablets are pre-weaver

Maybe not explicitely but they're not of weaver make

[steep jolt]

they should be called something like halonians

[hybrid flare]

We find one in the silksong's abyss that presumably belongs to AC

[astral olive]

No, I mean that silk was used like paper. Thats how entrenched the Weavers were by the end

[smoky bridge]

Hallownest is a shitty name for a kingdom NGL.
"Ooi, the hallowed nest"

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-combat-evolved-halo-anniversary-tumblr-master-chief-gif-20743179

[hybrid flare]

Where is this mentioned

[steep jolt]

son

[smoky bridge]

Mm... If there were wasps they would be using paper.

[exotic dome]

characters in hollow knight are secretly bugs

[astral olive]

One of the lore snippets.

Give me a bit.

[steep jolt]

hallow = holy
nest = nest

or it couldve been a change of hollow nest

also pharloom
phar = the pharlids that rule the kingdom
loom = used to turn silk

[smoky bridge]

Hallowed. Is like. Slightly different from holy.

[hybrid flare]

Pharloom is a play on far and pharlid

[smoky bridge]

Hallowed is a word tho.

It means holy but also revered

[hybrid flare]

In spanish the kingdom is called "Telalejana" which translates to far web/loom

[smoky bridge]

Because it is made holy.

[steep jolt]

its made holy by the king

[smoky bridge]

Like... It wasn't holy but PK made it holy.

[astral olive]

In its declining age, this city switched from stone to parchment woven of spider's silk.
It's a small tragedy, but the moisture in these towers has rendered most of those texts illegible.

[graceful oyster]

It means the good variant of corruption that spawns unicorns and pixies and crap

[hybrid flare]

Interesting, but does it have to be explicitely weaver silk? i doubt the habitants would be exposed to soul in such large amounts

Remember that silk = soul wasn't a thing in hk apparently

We see a shit ton of silk that's just regular old string

[steep jolt]

what kind of silk isn weaver silk

[smoky bridge]

opening my drawer of random shit and getting flashbanged by a large collection of soul

[smoky bridge]

Pharlids have silk and it is not souly

[graceful oyster]

Groul

[astral olive]

The Pale King traded with the Weavers specifically for their silk. It was one of his main stipulations for mating with Herrah.

[smoky bridge]

I think there's just two kinds of silk.

[hybrid flare]

Not just weavers, the spider kingdom as a whole

[graceful oyster]

The grizzly bear is huge and wild
It has devoured the infant child
The infant child is unaware
It has been eaten by the bear

[hybrid flare]

And the weavers didnt have an unlimited supply of magic bullshit silk, its use made them basically drain themselves of lifeforce

[crude geyser]

I finally made my silksong bosses in terms of difficulty (some are interchangeable)

[earnest drift]

what does it mean

pharloom combines "pharlid" and "loom"

because silk

[astral olive]

No?

Soul isnt lifeforce. It's Soul.

[hybrid flare]

The big ass ant kicked my ass back in september

[earnest drift]

"hallow nest" has each of its syllables begin with the same sound as the corresponding syllables in "hollow knight"

[hybrid flare]

Soul IS life energy what

[crude geyser]

The non boss ?

[hybrid flare]

It is also logistically impractical to have paper made out of soul in general, and dangerous

[steep jolt]

bro did NOT fight abyssal ass jim

[hybrid flare]

Silk was retconned to be a soul-based material in silksong

[astral olive]

If soul was life energy than why is the Knight not hurt when it uses Soul to attack?

[unkempt steeple]

kinda sad that phantom's whole gimmick is parrying but like, all versions of lace arguebly have better parries

[earnest drift]

why is it a retcon
why can't it just be new information

urgh why does everything silksong recontextualises get called a retcon

the only retcons are herrah being a weaver and weavers having severe difficulty reproducing

[exotic dome]

expanding upon lore is considered a retcon too. a good retcon imo

[astral olive]

Because people have their longstanding headcanons and dont like them toppled

[exotic dome]

not all retcons are bad

[steep jolt]

no

[astral olive]

So it's a retcon so they can effectively ignore it for that game

[still osprey]

we are not fr putting gms below moss mother what are we doing

[steep jolt]

genuinely YES we are

[hybrid flare]

Retcon is exactly that

[earnest drift]

"wahhhh lifeblood being similar to infection is a retcon!!!"

[earnest drift]

so is the entirety of silksong a retcon

[hybrid flare]

He's part hb and the soul isn't presumably his

[earnest drift]

is every sequel ever a retcon

[hybrid flare]

Following up and adding new info isn't the same

who the fuck died to moss mother EVER

[dry warren]

Blup

[earnest drift]

anyway yes soul is linked to life in some way because soul master had to kill hundreds of bugs to get the soul he needed

[wind gate]

To be fair we had little to no information about lifeblood so it's really the opposite of a retcon

[hybrid flare]

It is a retcon as its expanded info and it now warps bodies, which seemingly contradicts joni

[earnest drift]

idk why i sent this image hunter isn't a reliable source

[unkempt steeple]

what

[hybrid flare]

The knight heals with soul... yk...

[steep jolt]

i dunno

[earnest drift]

how does it contradict joni

[hybrid flare]

Soul can be weaponized but it's still life energy

[unkempt steeple]

stop the disagreeslop

[hybrid flare]

Joni isn't a bloated ass lifeslop monster

[steep jolt]

meh ill pass

[earnest drift]

ok so maybe she died in a different way

[gaunt root]

I disagree.

[hybrid flare]

I mean she was surrounded by it... yk... and so was zango

[wind gate]

Weelll we had little to no information about Joni either

[exotic dome]

but they made experiments with lifeblood

[steep jolt]

nah

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, im not against these types of retcons as leaving useless info with no followup doesn't help the overall lore of the game

My spelling skills aren't feeling it rn holy

[worthy lintel]

If a retcon can just be adding more info that doesn't contradict past info then I don't really see the point in mentioning retcons at all, if they aren't all about inconsistencies then there's no problem with them

[unkempt steeple]

Stop!

[earnest drift]

if i had to guess she was very experienced with and accepting of lifeblood so maybe whatever higher being is responsible for lifeblood granted mercy

[hybrid flare]

Its still by definition a retcon, doesn't mean its bad

[earnest drift]

zylotol does it in a very reckless and greedy way

but we don't have enough info

[hybrid flare]

The other bugs were innocent though

Like you're telling me grom the worm is a culprit

[earnest drift]

they probably don't care about wild beasts

[hybrid flare]

The lifeblood god is a hater

[earnest drift]

i hope they aren't because i don't want a radiance repeat

[smoky bridge]

That is what retcon means

People just assign the word negative connotation which it should not have.

[steep jolt]

i dont wanna

[exotic dome]

people when the sequel tells a story

[hybrid flare]

Radiance has her motives i don't want another god in general

[smoky bridge]

I like the Idea that Lifeblood is like.
The opposite of Void.

Life at all cost.

No regrets. Just.
Keep. Fuckin. Going.

[hybrid flare]

I like the fact that it ends up replacing your body basically

[earnest drift]

and instead of being enemies lifeblood and void seem to be nice to each other

[hybrid flare]

Kinda like "perfecting" something

[exotic dome]

lifeblood has lovecraftian vibes

[earnest drift]

with the lifeblood room in the abyss

[smoky bridge]

I am uncertain. But they are both... They have water vibes.

Abyss is an ocean, and The Lifeblood feels similarly... Aquatic?

At least to me.

[crude geyser]

?

You mean the steel mode boss ? I haven’t fought him indeed

[crude geyser]

Oh hi

How have you been ?

[steep jolt]

he becomes voided in act 3

[spark anchor]

I think dream no more being the canon ending that leads to silksong is much better from a narrative perspective

[earnest drift]

you get it

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, because hornet thinks tk is dead, and that weighs down on her

In part of why she wants to save lace

[earnest drift]

dream no more is perfect

embrace the void is whack

[spark anchor]

Not summoned saviour

[hybrid flare]

only for then the revelation to hit her

[exotic dome]

true

[hybrid flare]

Auraslop

[exotic dome]

thats why its the best ending in both games

[earnest drift]

i like sister of the void more

[exotic dome]

of course you do

[hybrid flare]

It's on par with sotv for me, as the vessels finding peace when radiance is dead, even though the real culprit is their father, seems kinda weird to me

[exotic dome]

sotv could be second for me

[hybrid flare]

The siblings didnt even interact with the radiance once

[spark anchor]

Wdym they appear during the radiance climb

[earnest drift]

yeah that's weird

[earnest drift]

but what are they doing

[spark anchor]

They’re spectating

[hybrid flare]

Aside from that one moment in which tk requires their help

[spark anchor]

That’s some sort of interaction

[earnest drift]

backseat void

[spark anchor]

“Yo little ghost stop tripping”

[earnest drift]

i make fun of dream no more being "the power of friendship" but it's not really
hornet tried to kill the knight twice before and is only helping them now
the knight only just met the hollow knight
and the siblings are just there

[exotic dome]

well technically they kill their ancient enemy

radiance calls the void ancient enemy

[hybrid flare]

Hornet tried testing the knight

[smoky bridge]

Hi!

[earnest drift]

but they were forcibly shoved into becoming void

and then discarded from said purpose

[hybrid flare]

Siblings still have the lingering wills of the dead vessels

[crude geyser]

How have you been

[crude geyser]

The chef ? Even in act 2 it was awful

[smoky bridge]

Bad! But that is the usual.

[exotic dome]

is it even possible to fix this

[crude geyser]

Sorry to hear this, there is better days ahead

[exotic dome]

also tk gets voidheart before fighting radiance

[astral olive]

remembers carving through bugs around the same size and speed as the knight like a scythe through wheat

She didnt try very hard to kill them. 😆

[smoky bridge]

Alliance of convenience.

[earnest drift]

what is the lore of void heart again i forgot

the knight dreamnails a thing in the abyss

confronts the past

which transforms kingsoul into something that can control the most powerful substance in the world

[smoky bridge]

Hornet 1 really kinda feels like "I'm not trying, if you die you kinda suck."
Despite what she says

Like she puts on this speech but then she kinda just. Does not put any effort into the killing.

[steep jolt]

yea i had to fight him voided

[crude geyser]

I didn’t

[earnest drift]

little miss idgaf

[astral olive]

Even the second fight is, like, only slightly more effort on Hornet's part.

[hybrid flare]

She does look defeated when we beat her

[smoky bridge]

It is kinda her job.
First fight is like pulling unpaid overtime at the maccas second time you're actually on the clock.

[exotic dome]

voidheart unifies the void under the bearers will

[hybrid flare]

Even if shes not giving it all, she is trying somewhat as whats waiting the vessel is the fucking hollow knight

[earnest drift]

but why does the knight get it

[smoky bridge]

Acceptance.

[earnest drift]

dream nail + memory of the knight's birth = uniting the entire void?

[smoky bridge]

They accept what they are.

[exotic dome]

you can only enter there with a kingsoul

[earnest drift]

they accept that they were discarded and never meant to see the light of day

[exotic dome]

which you need to enter white palace, white lady's room and castoff shell to get the king's brand

[earnest drift]

and this transforms kingsoul (union of their parents) into something that unifies the void

so like... why

[hybrid flare]

They accept what they are AND the possess a higher-being level source of power i think

[hybrid flare]

Their entire family is stained and united by it

[smoky bridge]

I think it's ironically like. The opposite.

Like I disagree with this.

I think the knight is more void than they are a child of the pale king

[exotic dome]

and soul can interact with the void (spells for example)

[crude geyser]

I miss the 12th architect

[smoky bridge]

It's a rejection of purpose and a building of new one on its foundations.

As far as I interpret the void heart.

[earnest drift]

ok that makes sense

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[earnest drift]

it could be accepting that their parents never wanted them to leave the void so they discard kingsoul and embrace the void

[smoky bridge]

The two fuckers? That grand purpose, their goal? Doesn't matter, it wasn't gonna cut it regardless. You're gonna do it *your way.*

[earnest drift]

i like this

[exotic dome]

killing radiance instead of sealing it is rejection of pale king's purpose too

[hybrid flare]

And the fact that you commune with your very own birthplace, which is of death and destruction, to lead it towards a different purpose is cheffs kiss

[copper hedge]

PK realizing that killing Radiance is a better solution than sealing it away temporarily

(he was already dead)

[earnest drift]

was the pale king capable of meeting the radiance face-to-face

he could move a palace into the dream world so surely he could go in as well

[smoky bridge]

she would have no diffed him tho.

[earnest drift]

because pale king isn't combat focused

[astral olive]

I just find it amusing to think that, in a straight bought of swordplay and martial ability, Hornet could have just... won.

She is the unquestionably deadliest thing in Hallownest... and that doesnt matter because you can't physically hunt dreams

Like, the Knight's victory ultimately doesn't come from swordsmanship or physical power. The Hollow Knight is a near dead husk who's skill with a blade I'd rate as... mediocre. Defeating it physically is ultimately the easy part that anyone could do, it's the metaphysical battle in the mind, in Dreams that's actually important.

[copper hedge]

just like the king chess piece

[earnest drift]

white defender would beat pale king

[smoky bridge]

Problem with the Pale king is that he's a civilised buge.

Charisma build lookin ass

[earnest drift]

well since the pure vessel knows how to fight could the pale king have transported them into the dream realm to fight radiance

or that wouldn't work because the radiance is scattered among multiple minds

[hybrid flare]

Pk is very powerful but seeping into the radiances domain is gonna get your ass kicked

[earnest drift]

and pure vessel probably isn't strong enough anyway

[hybrid flare]

Yeah the radiance is also a fucking plague

[inland goblet]

Yo

[earnest drift]

could've just sealed the hollow knight outside of hallownest

[astral olive]

The Pure Vessal doesnt really improve in the swordsmanship department. Both versions are terrible to mediocre fighters technically.

[earnest drift]

that's true they rely mainly on soul spells

[copper hedge]

does that mean THK actually captured the source rather than just a figment of the infection?

[exotic dome]

and pure vessel does not unify the void

[earnest drift]

yeah that too

[hybrid flare]

I always assumed the knights trained pv

Thats why pv can wield a blade

[astral olive]

If they did they're shit teachers

[hybrid flare]

Pv does know how to fight pretty well doe

[smoky bridge]

Yuh the scary attacks are the void ones and the runes.

[astral olive]

Not really.

Its swordsmanship has pretty extensive flaws exploitable by a skilled practitioner

[copper hedge]

where do u fight PV again? sorry i havent fought them yet

[smoky bridge]

It is a good sword fighter but it's main strength is that it is fuckoff huge and built like a tank full of deadly acid

[steep jolt]

they teleport

[smoky bridge]

Except the deadly acid also melts your soul

[steep jolt]

using void

[hybrid flare]

So do too the nailmasters

[astral olive]

And?

[smoky bridge]

That's not swordsmanship tho innit

[hybrid flare]

The supposed experts of the blade

[steep jolt]

they summon swords\

from the ground

[smoky bridge]

PV is cool but they do flail

[astral olive]

And I think they're kinda crud too

[exotic dome]

pantheon 4

[smoky bridge]

Nail is just kinda a crude tool innit

[hybrid flare]

Hk swordsmanship in general is lacking a bit

[astral olive]

I was never impressed or wowed by the swordplay in HK

[copper hedge]

oh... yeah ig its time to grind HK again

[hybrid flare]

Their nails are built around bashing shit

[smoky bridge]

I mean. It makes sense. Big and heavy.

Lots of reliance on actual might.

[astral olive]

Now Silksong? Silksong has swordplay

[smoky bridge]

Eeh.

[hybrid flare]

They have rapiers

[astral olive]

Skilled fighters all around Pharloom

[smoky bridge]

Pinstress is a little shit tho.

Get down hereee

[hybrid flare]

Tactician mindset

[astral olive]

Pinstress is an aerial fighter much like Hornet

[copper hedge]

Hornet can describe Pinterest like how she wrote her hunter notes about the craw that throws pins

she hates rangers

[astral olive]

Getting down takes away a key advantage of her style

[smoky bridge]

Doesn't make her less annoying.

[crude geyser]

I hate her

Her boss fight was super hard to me

[astral olive]

And thats how normal enemies feel fighting Hunter Hornet

[smoky bridge]

Also I main beast, I can deal with aerial but like. I wish to be back down

[hybrid flare]

Garmound is probably sly level 💔

[smoky bridge]

So I can slap people a lot.

[copper hedge]

at least the fight has an escape route in case you're in steelsoul and almost fumbled. but fuck that fight. spamming my voltvessel spears on her

[smoky bridge]

Garmond is brick level.

[astral olive]

She cant get an aerial advantage.

[smoky bridge]

Garmond is weaks and foole.

[hybrid flare]

Hes as good as a hallownest nailmaster, both are bashing their shit in crude waya

[copper hedge]

i tried sparring Shakra.

uhhhh.... bro im getting slimed

[smoky bridge]

Nah at least they have a little trick to it.

Garm is just flailing on stimulants

[crude geyser]

Do you like 67

[smoky bridge]

The stupid meme or.

[crude geyser]

The meme

You look like youd enjoy doing 67

[smoky bridge]

I do not care for it.
It is funny when children do the gesture in a store, and you can see they are doing it in a way that their parents don't see, cause they already got told to stop.

Funny Purely because of the context.

[crude geyser]

It sounds like you actually lived it

Neat

You are quite a funny gal

[smoky bridge]

Children are funny, but remember to treat them with respect regardless.

Unless they have dogshit opinions, then they go in the box.

[hybrid flare]

The pit

[smoky bridge]

One way shipping to Timbuktu.

[crude geyser]

Woah

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[crude geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-chris-stewie-negative-so-negative-gif-27521015

But I like kids so this shouldn’t be an issue

[toxic vigil]

What is the discussion right now..

[crude geyser]

Do you like 67

[toxic vigil]

No

[crude geyser]

Pfff

[toxic vigil]

Its kinda meh

[crude geyser]

Lmao

You prefer Hawke tuahh ?

[steep jolt]

son

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/red-paper-coach-meme-gif-11221063440541197155

[crude geyser]

Oh come on

[smoky bridge]

Please be quiet now.

[crude geyser]

:3

Why

[copper hedge]

21

[crude geyser]

Remember this

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/did-he-just-say-that-his-last-name-is-burger-burger-evan-burger-gif-8123576826997656362

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-crine-im-iI1zrcJRzkTmGhAqte

https://tenor.com/view/city-boy-city-boy-instagram-jxbtty-gif-7643045933702623931

[steep jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277744669153034280/1482065932162564138/who-is-he-who-is-that.gif

[vale whale]

HOLU TUFF

[smoky bridge]

You're all the bad, cringe children.

[steep jolt]

only real ones know the reference

[exotic dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146538723673129042/1337268778899341362/ssstwitter.com_1738819943971_1.gif

[steep jolt]

unc needs to stop eating oranges 😭

[steep jolt]

mf messed with wally west 😭

[unkempt steeple]

Ledge grab is so satisfying

[weary sorrel]

IS THAT STEVE

[steep jolt]

yes

[weary sorrel]

Steve are you proud of my invention

[unkempt steeple]

I love climbing purely with ledge grab

[steep jolt]

son

[crude geyser]

Stop projecting

Friend

[rotund gate]

first thing i see

[worldly umbra]

slep

[rancid stag]

hello fancy dude

[worldly umbra]

hello Vessel (#1 zote fan)

[inland ravine]

hey silksong disc

i need your help

[inland ravine]

CAR

[worldly umbra]

with what

[inland ravine]

uh

need screenshots for art

[worldly umbra]

wdym

[inland ravine]

okay nvm i'ma ask somewhere

[balmy pumice]

Guys

[inland ravine]

yes?

[balmy pumice]

What mods should I use

[still osprey]

QoL, Debug Mod

[balmy pumice]

I use a bunch of the normal mods I want a weird but fun mod

[round creek]

I just had a dream of exploring a mount-fay like area that was like 3x bigger

[still osprey]

God I wish

[orchid locust]

what screenshots ⁉️

[inland ravine]

where hornet says "and my experience can tell, even gods can fall" smth i forgot the lines

in gameplay

[orchid locust]

oh the lace dialogue

[inland ravine]

yes

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/james-wilson-house-md-gregory-house-sparkle-on-and-be-yourself-wednesday-gif-10694982973253766125

Wonderful wilson wednesday isnt it

[inland ravine]

indeed :D

wait ismoil why you following me here

[quartz cave]

I lost my shoes somewhere this wilson wednesday sucks

[quartz cave]

Why are YOU following me

[inland ravine]

THANK YOU!!!! YOU"RE MY SAVIOR

[inland ravine]

no no

why are WE here in the first place

[quartz cave]

Because it sucks way less than hk geneshit

[orchid locust]

swilson saturday

[inland ravine]

ah i see

[steep jolt]

bro just wants to eat his oranges in peace 🙏

[inland ravine]

uh

[orchid locust]

why is cro posting this Everywhere 😭

[inland ravine]

okay dang

fetish ai peas ahh

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/howyy-gif-14677769772756874928

[inland ravine]

CAR

[inland sparrow]

oh no

[inland ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/arrival-cat-walk-depature-gif-20595111

[inland sparrow]

FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME ITS NOT A CAR ITS A FUCKING CAT

[inland ravine]

IT'S HOW I CALL CATS

[inland sparrow]

DO CATS HAVE WHEELS?

[inland ravine]

IT'S A JOKE

[inland sparrow]

DO CATS HAVE SEATS?

DO CATS HAVE DOORS?

[normal bramble]

Probably

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-gif-25628425

[inland sparrow]

I hope both sides of your pillow are warm your blanket is somehow too short and too heavy at the same time your phone charger only works if you hold it at a very specific angle while not breathing

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/cabby-cabby-cat-gif-4267346400739127486

[exotic cedar]

Why is chat sending cars

[inland sparrow]

I hope your internet disconnects at 99% every single time your socks get wet for no clear reason your sleeve slides down whenever you wash your hands

[radiant quail]

Get a job guys

[inland sparrow]

Am not old enough for a job dumbass

[radiant quail]

Same

[quartz cave]

Dude yes they do

Have you ever even seen one irl

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-baby-gif-1405278719456472847

[inland sparrow]

Yeah I have 2 cats

[quartz cave]

Yours must be defective then

[earnest drift]

every time i see this gif i want to drown a slater

[inland sparrow]

WHERE ARE THE DOORS?

[quartz cave]

Bestie those are not cars those are the embodiments of light and darkness

No wonder yours dont have doors

[exotic cedar]

Ying and Yang

[inland sparrow]

show me a cat with doors then twin

[rose flax]

my water has been coming out yellow for the past 2 days, is my house ontop of bilewater?

[inland sparrow]

No

its piss

[earnest drift]

no someone has set up a toilet on the pipes

[quartz cave]

My nearest car does not consent with having their image taken and i must oblige sorry

[rose flax]

dark yellow with black particles

[queen acorn]

mrrp mreow

[rose flax]

it lowkey pmo

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10311420692458175149

[rose flax]

who the fuck built this house next to bilewater

[quartz cave]

Literally a car crash

Thats so brutal how could you post that

[queen acorn]

oh my is this real?

[earnest drift]

i have a dog

[queen acorn]

im act shaking add a warning

[inland sparrow]

yes

[inland sparrow]

Can we see?

[earnest drift]

no

[inland sparrow]

mb

[inland sparrow]

aww ok

[queen acorn]

silk seven

[still osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fourth-chorus-silksong-hollow-knight-boss-hornet-gif-13663543939265240984

[inland sparrow]

I hope your alarm goes off but you’re still exhausted autocorrect embarrasses you in front of the exact people you didn’t want to embarrass yourself in front of your headphones only work in one ear unless you twist the wire just right every chair you sit on makes a noise in a silent room your favorite song always gets interrupted by an ad your food is always slightly too hot or slightly too cold

[glass mortar]

craw father first try letss gooo

[inland sparrow]

Good job

[queen acorn]

nice

hed be a teeeny weeny bit funner if he didnt spend eternity on the ground like a fatass pushover

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[glass mortar]

being on the ground mostly makes it easier so thats true ig

[quartz cave]

Is silk the "grand" mother silk or is she grandma silk
And if shes grandma silk wheres mother silk

[queen acorn]

it techincally goes both ways

[still osprey]

She is "Grand" Mother Silk

[queen acorn]

she is very much a grandmother and she is the GRAND mother

[still osprey]

Big mother silk

[glass mortar]

and shes a mother as wel,no?

[queen acorn]

are all grand mothers not mothers too

[quartz cave]

So wheres regular mother silk

[still osprey]

Grandmas typically tend to be mothers yes

[queen acorn]

every weaver ever

[glass mortar]

herrah

[queen acorn]

act yeah herrah

[quartz cave]

Thats quite one hivemind of a mother

Is that why jane silksong grew in a hive

[queen acorn]

jane silksong loves fluffy things cz of big bee

[quartz cave]

Shes also homophobic whered she learn that from

[glass mortar]

dude even hornet knows she brings chaos

[queen acorn]

wait lemme think

[glass mortar]

uhhh well phantom explained it to gms

[queen acorn]

i think shes js homophobic for the sake of it

[quartz cave]

Sounds like her

[normal bramble]

Alright so I’m now only missing 3 momentos

Swift master, Seth…, and Hunter journel

[queen acorn]

or maybe great conchflies pissed her off so badly to the point of homophobia

[glass mortar]

how did herrah makr hornet if weavers cannot reproduce?

[queen acorn]

fun

[queen acorn]

i think it was retconned

[glass mortar]

hmmmm

[queen acorn]

theres always the fatass herrah cz she gave birth to all of deepnest theory

[icy phoenix]

Gotta love making one-button tool binds on the steam deck

[glass mortar]

i thin hse just made deepnest her palace or sum shit

[queen acorn]

this confuseses me as weavers den existed

[glass mortar]

oooh yeah

[queen acorn]

if herrah is a weaver why did the others not exist along side

[glass mortar]

like first sinner?

[queen acorn]

and THEY look like normal weavers too we see them in weavers den???

[queen acorn]

yep

[vale whale]

what if weavers den is the workplace and deepnest is the town

[earnest drift]

weavers can reproduce, it's just very difficult

[queen acorn]

this would make sense if there werent more WEAVER CORPSES IN WEAVES DEN

[glass mortar]

oh

[vale whale]

yeah there are like 4 part weavers

[earnest drift]

there are "little weavers" in deepnest that i think don't make sense with silksong's lore

[queen acorn]

and a WEAVER IN WEAVERS DEN

[vale whale]

she's weaving and humming while she works

[hybrid flare]

They could be convergent species

[queen acorn]

tru

[earnest drift]

bugs evolving to be similar to weavers?

[hybrid flare]

Why didn't tc make the true ending unambiguous as of which one it follows up

[hybrid flare]

In appereance yeah

[earnest drift]

stalking devout's dreamnail dialogue implies it's related to herrah?

[hybrid flare]

No, they serve her

[queen acorn]

2 instances of brood being used ever write this down

what the hell is a brood

[earnest drift]

but it says brood

[vale whale]

tc could be the most famous company ever if they made a thk game in the steel city

[hybrid flare]

Also herrah got retconned to be a weaver she wasn't one before im pretty sure

[queen acorn]

thats tommorow

[earnest drift]

same as little weavers