sk-discussion

[strange knot]

It’s a way of entertainment

[untold dune]

probably not

[hybrid flare]

Chess is honestly so mid

[stable pilot]

yes

[charred tiger]

that's not the right pic

[untold dune]

chess doesnt even have hairpin

OR striders

[hybrid flare]

"strategy" game my ass, you have to memorize and copy the big dogs to win

[worthy lintel]

This was a breakable wall once you can't convince me otherwise

[stable pilot]

does mio have gotham chess

[worthy lintel]

That collision is too weird

[graceful oyster]

Neither does Stellaris

[bitter briar]

convinces you otherwise

[worthy lintel]

DAMN IT

[untold dune]

yeah and mio is better than stellaris too

[stable pilot]

isnt this verdania

[bitter briar]

Ha

[hybrid flare]

Chat is mio real

[worthy lintel]

No this is the abyss

[strange knot]

Yeah chess is mid fr

[charred tiger]

it's my home

[untold dune]

yea

[graceful oyster]

Oh okay fair point

[daring basin]

yea

[bitter briar]

No it’s all in your head

[stable pilot]

hmm

[hybrid flare]

fuck

[bitter briar]

You’re hallucinating

[charred tiger]

hey that's where i hid 5 years ago from team cherry hunting me down

[exotic cedar]

Memories with obama

[meager jolt]

You can't

[hybrid flare]

why would they do that

[daring basin]

damn straight

[graceful oyster]

Good ones I hope

[worthy lintel]

Should've gotten the ak47 tool

[charred tiger]

hopefully i managed to escape them

[meager jolt]

I agree

[hybrid flare]

memories independant from osama

[charred tiger]

i said that hollow knight existed

[daring basin]

TEAM CHERRY HE IS OVER HERE

[hybrid flare]

Oh jesus ew you deserve to get hunted down

[charred tiger]

SHUT UP OR I'M SHOOTING YOU

[bitter briar]

U can’t do that u don’t have the ak 47 tool

[untold dune]

silksong
silksong if hornet had an ak-47

[charred tiger]

i do have a glock

[hybrid flare]

Hornet's reputation if the slab incident didn't happen

[bitter briar]

Not good enough, get ak

[daring basin]

Hornet in Pharloom vs Knight in Pharloom

[charred tiger]

too late i shot him

[daring basin]

Oh come o-
dies

[bitter briar]

Damn ok, still bad

[charred tiger]

hope they didn't hear him screaming or else ima have tl take team cherry down too

[daring basin]

good thing he killed me as I have project Hail Mary to go see

[untold dune]

bro that movie is so peak

[daring basin]

read the book, peak book, I am seeing the movie, heard it’s really good

[charred tiger]

-# idk what that is

[untold dune]

yeah i plan on it at some point

[untold dune]

sci fi movie that just released this month

[daring basin]

uncultured swine

[charred tiger]

has it released in france

[daring basin]

/jk

[untold dune]

uh probably

[versed current]

I got hornet statue

[charred tiger]

well still never heard of it

[strange knot]

Break it.

[versed current]

Nein

[charred tiger]

don't you dare breaking it

[sick elm]

Lore Tablet: White Palace - Path of Pain

To witness secrets sealed, one must endure the harshest punishment.

@igotmesomebeanchaling used /lore-tablets area: White Palace name: Path of Pain

[daring basin]

I saw that coming from nien miles away

[charred tiger]

if you break it i'm eating all your favorite cresg and i'll only leave you with architect

[bitter briar]

Was that the wind

[charred tiger]

crests

[daring basin]

holy fu did I just get that guys face reveal

[charred tiger]

that was the wind

[charred tiger]

more like hair reveal

[versed current]

Dont ask i needed a haircut

[bitter briar]

Ah ok

[daring basin]

real tho

[versed current]

It was the only good picture lol

[charred tiger]

is it bad if i still have base hk at 111%

[untold dune]

eh its fine

[hybrid flare]

whats your last %

[untold dune]

p4 is tuff

[charred tiger]

this flower pisses me of

[charred tiger]

delicate flower

and a charm notch

[hybrid flare]

equip elegy of the grubberflies and take the path from greenpath to gardens

[daring basin]

if I am playing cards and draw this I have already won

[charred tiger]

wayyy too lazy

[untold dune]

its a lot easier if you clear out all enemies first

[hybrid flare]

you fucking vegetable

[charred tiger]

exept if the opponent pulls out exodia yes

[charred tiger]

take that as a compliment

[still osprey]

Delicate Flower is lowkey kinda ass, Courier's Rasher is much better

[bitter briar]

Nah he loses to the black ace

[hybrid flare]

Im pulling the 12 masks im sorry

[untold dune]

yeah rasher is more fun

[hybrid flare]

Or the radiance

[hybrid flare]

about time, appetizer

[bitter briar]

Appetizer?

[still osprey]

I hate how careful you have to be with flower it's such a slog

[hybrid flare]

this all started because a guy was named "onion" btw

[hybrid flare]

Better visually represented than the base game btw

[still osprey]

Meanwhile Rasher forces you to be fast but still careful in a different way, it's a lot more enjoyable

[graceful oyster]

Mio people which of these looks more fun

[versed current]

There needs to be a site with good haircut picture thingies
All of them are AI

[hybrid flare]

holy shit I CAN SEE!!! I CAN SEE!

[graceful oyster]

What

[versed current]

I hate putrified ducts

[charred tiger]

any ai picture or video has to be deleted

[charred tiger]

same

[versed current]

They got glasses

[charred tiger]

those moskitos are hell

[strange knot]

Not rlly a Mio person but 1st one looks more fun tbh

[hybrid flare]

those clips are awfully similar to path of pain for some reason

Idk, i feel this way, and the pouring liquid slop thingies in nine sols greenhouse

[charred tiger]

idk why but i don't like this game

[hybrid flare]

I can never forgive mio for having an ugly protagonist 💔

[graceful oyster]

Hollow Knight players see platforming and they're like "aWOOga it's Path of Pain!!!!" like it's the only challenge they've ever played

[hybrid flare]

Yes we are like that

Section where you go up

[strange knot]

Farewell from Celeste is just a path of pain rip off

[hybrid flare]

sigh silksong ripped off pop from mt fay such a shame

[graceful oyster]

Fear not this isn't what the game looks like nor is it any playable platforming, it's scrapped developer experiments

[charred tiger]

i don't like the movements tbh

[graceful oyster]

This is what it looks like

[hybrid flare]

Hey! where's my character

[versed current]

I was wondering why it looked weird

[charred tiger]

the artworks looks great but the gameplay doesn't look really good imo

[graceful oyster]

Well, beware using these videos as references, it's scrapped platforming and is very janky because they weren't supposed to be completable

[charred tiger]

i see

[graceful oyster]

Do more research before deciding it isn't for you

[hybrid flare]

imo can be lettered differently and it gives you mio therefore mio wins

[charred tiger]

hm
too lazy

[undone cobalt]

Bro

[graceful oyster]

If you like platforming this game is excellent

[undone cobalt]

The dungeon is worse than the actual fight

[versed current]

I might get it

[hybrid flare]

I will play mio someday and i'll make sure to hate it for every little flaw it has

Just like i did with bloodborne

[undone cobalt]

(Groal the great)

[charred tiger]

fair i love hating on games just to piss off community on every badly made feature

[minor plank]

SOS news this week I beg of you team cherry

I’m feeling good abt it

[graceful oyster]

In any case I've played 850h of Hollow Knight games and I think Mio's moveset/exploration/combat is on par with both of them

It is my favorite game

[still osprey]

Sea of Sorrow is literally coming out tomorrow

[graceful oyster]

Real

[charred tiger]

sea of sorrow is just a sea with nothing in it

if we don't get a boss that's a fish that comes out of the water to attack ima crash out

[compact hemlock]

the unraveled if having shit hitboxes wasn't part of it's bossfight

[exotic dome]

both. 1st is more

how can i access these parkours?

[charred tiger]

who

[exotic dome]

is it in demo

[compact hemlock]

the unraveled...?

[charred tiger]

who's that again

[compact hemlock]

not spoiling twin

[charred tiger]

i just have really bad memory

[compact hemlock]

||guy in the surgery place||

[charred tiger]

ohh that guy

i did forget about him

[strange knot]

Unraveled has such a peak concept tbh

[still osprey]

Unravelled is not that bad

[strange knot]

Yeah they are like ok

[compact hemlock]

mega shit hitbox tho

[fiery burrow]

Latter imo

Those bouncy things aren't in the game are they

[lavish apex]

the gameplay is v good, i enjoy the general gamefeel of hk/skong more personally though

[fiery burrow]

Mio is my second favorite metroidvania behind HK1 I'd definitely recommend checking it out

[lavish apex]

yeah 100% it's worth it if you like metroidvanias

[graceful oyster]

You have to teleport or noclip to them using mods

Detailed post here

[normal bramble]

Unravelled is an awesome fight imo

[graceful oyster]

They're in scrapped rooms below the map

[normal bramble]

However

[spice cargo]

do you guys think the devs used black screens as cutscenes way too much

[normal bramble]

I think the unravelled not having a song for itself is Lame

[compact hemlock]

caretaker, if you don't give me the quest I'll literally kill you

[spice cargo]

sometjing like crafting the pimpillo or seeing the shamman leave to set the snare trap dont need black screens

[normal bramble]

The quest for silk and soul is at bellhart

[still osprey]

You can also get it by talking to him

[compact hemlock]

you need to talk with him first tho no?

[normal bramble]

You can???

[lavish apex]

also it's still like top tier in that department, much much better than something like super metroid or blasphemous 1 (probably 2 also)

[normal bramble]

I just found it at bell hart

I never talked to him before that

[still osprey]

Yea you can either pick it up from Bellhart or just talk to him

[normal bramble]

Crazy

[charred tiger]

good concept but L fight

so forgegablr

[compact hemlock]

I'm going to fucking kill the caretaker

[normal bramble]

The unraveled plays uhhh sister splinter during his fight right?

[charred tiger]

why

[normal bramble]

Ya i really think a fight with a silk heart and everything

[potent vessel]

unraveled is lowk the nosk of silksong

[normal bramble]

Should have a theme.

[potent vessel]

amazing setup but bad fight

[lavish apex]

unravelled is cool atmospherically but like one of the most anti-fun fights in the game otherwise

[charred tiger]

not even hard just not fun

[compact hemlock]

I love having their fat ass slam on my face even if I'm clearly not near him

[lavish apex]

i'd put it just barely above palestag and zango

[still osprey]

The cloak has a hitbox

[normal bramble]

This exact same sentance can be said to chef Lugoli

[potent vessel]

they better rework his ass in a potential boss rush dlc

[potent vessel]

💔

[compact hemlock]

it's a bit more fair

[compact hemlock]

I mean

[normal bramble]

Honestly I didn’t find unravelled that bad

I beat it 2nd try? Or smth

[still osprey]

It's not hard to avoid once you know it so I think it's no big deal but also I have almost 300 hours on this game so maybe I'm just too used to it

[lavish apex]

it's not hard just boring as hell

[normal bramble]

I find it an generally really good fight

[potent vessel]

im still procrastinating the 100% steel soul achievement

[lavish apex]

and long without enough substance to justify that

[normal bramble]

Albeit that’s probably because I wasn’t forced to spend much time doing him as I just had wanderers on at the time

[charred tiger]

most silksong fight feels like a dance or an actual fight
this mf is just running towards you

[still osprey]

Ok I will say, Unravelled's HP and damage modifiers are fucking disgusting

[lavish apex]

also the corpse spit attack kinda sucks

[potent vessel]

its literally just him slamming his body from 1 side of a small arena to another

[still osprey]

1000 HP and 1s all across except for like needle0 is horrendous

[potent vessel]

with the occasionaly shitty projectiles

[meager jolt]

It's really fun

[normal bramble]

Ik he has 1000 hp, what does his modifier look like?

[compact hemlock]

literally 0 reason for him to have imbended aimbot

[potent vessel]

bottom 5 boss fights in the game for sure

[charred tiger]

procrastinating speedrun and steel soul achievements

[normal bramble]

I simply can’t agree

He’s too cool of a fight thematically

[potent vessel]

the speedrun achievements were pretty fun ngl

[normal bramble]

For me to say he’s a bad boss

[charred tiger]

i just have 1 save and do with it

[still osprey]

Like. Why

[potent vessel]

tbf i mostly consider gameplay when deciding whether a boss is bad or not

[charred tiger]

wha

[meager jolt]

I found Steel Soul super fun

[lavish apex]

the strat is just to jump on top of it and pogo, it's consistent but it makes the fight even more boring

[normal bramble]

Eh to each their own ig I generally just didn’t find him tha bad

[charred tiger]

i hate doing multiple saves

[still osprey]

I'm on my 10th 100% playthrough 🔥

[compact hemlock]

I love doing multiple saves

[normal bramble]

I just did the speedrun achievement yesterday

Got the achievement with an hour and a half to spare

[lavish apex]

i'll probably do another run when sos drops

[normal bramble]

I gotta do the 100% one now but

[rocky jolt]

this is the part where he kills you

[normal bramble]

I’m not thatttttt worried

[still osprey]

I did the 100% speedrun achievement with 13 hours to spare

[rocky jolt]

hello! this is the part where i kill you

[normal bramble]

Damnnn

[verbal bridge]

that’s crazy

[rocky jolt]

This is the part

[compact hemlock]

i barely have any lost fleas that's amazing

[lavish apex]

my legit steel heart run was like 15h 6m

[normal bramble]

The part that worries me is finding all the spool and mask fragments

[still osprey]

My fastest 100% playthrough so far is like, 11 or 12 hours

[normal bramble]

I have a feeling somehow that’ll be the thing to make the run that much slower

[still osprey]

I'm not really a speedrunner I just like the game too much 😭

[normal bramble]

I’m not tooooo worried about the bosses (expect Karmelita)

[still osprey]

At least it's good preparation for rando

[normal bramble]

Ay someday We’re gonna get the silksong pantheon so just call it preparation

[compact hemlock]

when can I start the flew games

[still osprey]

Yea and I'm still going to be dying to Nyleth cuz she fucking hates me

[normal bramble]

Get all thirty then bell beast anywhere

[compact hemlock]

oka

[still osprey]

Get all 30 fleas and get to Act 3

[compact hemlock]

it's act 3 exclusive? aw

[normal bramble]

Oh ya also act 3 or smth

Tbf they’re celebrations for the end of the world

There’s not much world ending pre-act 3

[still osprey]

I don't remember if silk soar is required for the wish to show up? But my heart is saying no, even tho I usually do it after

[normal bramble]

Idr

[lavish apex]

it's not

[still osprey]

Awesome

I remember Silk Soar is required for Tormented Trobbio to show up

[forest tendon]

I keep getting to Widows 3rd phase but die instantly

[compact hemlock]

2 fleas in far fields, 1 in sands of Karak and surprisingly that's it

[compact hemlock]

so you can fight tormented trobbie before trobbio? peak

[normal bramble]

No

[rocky jolt]

dont forget one in city of steel

[normal bramble]

Claw mirrors are required for the quest to show up

[compact hemlock]

oh did they fix that one glitch?

oh

[normal bramble]

The quest just won’t appear if you don’t own the mirrors

[lavish apex]

you don't even need the ecstasy of the end wish from a board you can just go to fleatopia

[still osprey]

Also Trobbio is required for Vaultkeeper's Melody anyway so, lol

[normal bramble]

Even if you skipped it with glitches it he’ll be there after act 2

Pfttt

[charred tiger]

anyway ima sleep

goodnight

[still osprey]

It's funny to me how Fourth Chorus just disappears in Act 3 if you skip it

[normal bramble]

It does?

[still osprey]

Like what happened to it bro it just vanishes

[normal bramble]

Oh act

What happens if you skip 4th chorus and have beast fly quest?

[still osprey]

You can't

You need to defeat Fourth Chorus for the Beastfly wish to show up

[charred tiger]

double boss (i wish)

[normal bramble]

Silksong updated?

Oh wait uh pale lake bench

[exotic dome]

fourth beastfly

[still osprey]

Yea pale lake bench

[normal bramble]

Another bench to never be used in ducts!

[charred tiger]

the four beastflies

[still osprey]

I looove pale lake bench it's so useless 🔥

[exotic dome]

worst bench in the game gets its own save screen 💔

[normal bramble]

It can go right next to the huntress bench

[lavish apex]

are you locked out of that mask shard once fc despawns in act 3 or does the wish just appear

[normal bramble]

Anyways time to do mount fay on my speedrun save

[still osprey]

I assume the wish just appears and you fight voided beastfly

[charred tiger]

doesn't you need to beat beastfly to go act 3

[still osprey]

Cuz like, you automatically gain the journal entry when it vanishes, so it'd be wild if you got locked out of 100% but not hunter's memento

[charred tiger]

anyway ima sleep (fr this time)

[still osprey]

Nope

[compact hemlock]

yeah

[still osprey]

You can wait until Act 3 for both Beastflies and they both get voided

[normal bramble]

Oh ya

I can finally go buy the compass

Never did while doing the speedrun achievement

[mental snow]

New Shakra glitch

No idea how I pulled it off but uh... yeah.

[worldly umbra]

can confirm from experience

[still osprey]

That's not a glitch

[mental snow]

It's at the end of the video

[still osprey]

She just attacks enemies that come near her

[rocky jolt]

shakra is a bug yeah

[eager creek]

Y'all have no attention span lol

[mental snow]

I just showed the sequence of events I took up to the Shakra glitch

[plush knoll]

Which Crest is the most OP for Needle Attack? (Not mentioning charged attacks)

[still osprey]

Oh I see that's funny

[charred tiger]

she just likes to fly sometimes but don't we all do this

[still osprey]

I'm on mobile I can't see the length of the video unless I fullscreen it ok

[mental snow]

Wanderer if you wanna rely on attack speed and the crit, or Hunter if you like not getting hit (because the Focus mechanic of the Crest is an insane damage buff)

[still osprey]

Hunter, Wanderer and Beast

[mental snow]

Oh yeah, I forgot about Beast

[charred tiger]

shaman for range

[still osprey]

Shaman needle sucks it's so slow

Reaper and Witch too

[mental snow]

Isn't it the slowest in the game?

[charred tiger]

reaper is peak

[compact hemlock]

how the fuck do I get the flea near pilgrims rest

[still osprey]

Bellway

[charred tiger]

extremely not funny i hope you have a sleep paralysis

[compact hemlock]

ah

[rocky jolt]

Ok

[plush knoll]

Happy someone mentioned Hunter after a good amount of videos or idk, an proud Hunter main over here :P

[still osprey]

I'm also a proud Hunter main 🫡

[compact hemlock]

same though soon switching to witch my next playthrough

it's down attack is just sooo fun

[crude geyser]

Whats the best runback for the frontier guardian ?

[still osprey]

I looove Hunter I looove getting rewarded for playing well I loooove a crest with no real downsides

[compact hemlock]

okay elaborate please

[charred tiger]

first trying him

[still osprey]

Walk right, next to bell beast

[crude geyser]

I like how you answer the question

[compact hemlock]

what the fuck

[charred tiger]

ikr

[mental snow]

Btw Imma do this game with just Nail 0 and only Silkspear

Wanna do smth akin to the whole 04 thing from HK (except without the 4 in 04)

[compact hemlock]

what's y'all's favorite type of parry

[plush knoll]

One of the main reasons for me was not wanting to re-learn non diagonal pogos and also the damage boost for not taking damage is the best part about it

[mental snow]

Like which Crest or which attack to parry?

[compact hemlock]

like defensive or aggressive parry, there are different parries in HK and sk

[still osprey]

Hunter is the only crest that doesn't have a downside I gotta work around while still having an extremely good passive

[mental snow]

I'd say the projectile parries are my favourite. There's something really satisfying about just saying "no" when something's thrown at your face.

[polar stag]

the platypus

[compact hemlock]

real shit, especially if it hits the enemy back

[plush knoll]

Uh, how do I send images or video on this server?

[slender juniper]

Best silksong ost

[still osprey]

300 messages

[slender juniper]

Name the best silksong ost

[compact hemlock]

you don't

[compact hemlock]

cradle

[slender juniper]

FALSE

[normal bramble]

Phantom

[slender juniper]

I'm jk don't fight me

[eager creek]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

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[still osprey]

God idk what my favorite silksong song is

It's probably just, Lost Lace, tbh

[slender juniper]

Lost lace,last dive,strive all are peak

[still osprey]

idk this whole soundtrack is just so good

Genuinely not a single miss

Even the ambient tracks are perfect

[polar stag]

I love smacking the bells back at the bell throwers like a volleyball

[slender juniper]

Crust kings khann is bad

[compact hemlock]

I want every single bell thrower to die

[mental snow]

Damn, didn't know the Fleafather was based like that

[still osprey]

This is just incorrect

Crust King Khann is awesome I love that aong

[slender juniper]

Only because you hear it for 15 seconds before defeating the boss

[compact hemlock]

I have never seen a bell thrower deserving of life, much less respect and sympathy

[eager creek]

I like Choral Chambers :]

[compact hemlock]

last flea chat

[still osprey]

Enough about the OST. What about songs that aren't featured in the OST

[compact hemlock]

like the crafle

[slender juniper]

Flick singing

[fiery burrow]

Widow Harps is solid

[still osprey]

The Cradle is part of Awakening, so it counts as part of the ost, sorry !

[slender juniper]

It's in the ost as awaking

[compact hemlock]

oh

[plush knoll]

SkkarrSinger Karmelita or Phantom

[lavish apex]

but the entire thing is not in awakening

[still osprey]

I'm honestly surprised Memorium isn't in the ost like that's just a fucking song why isn't it in there

[slender juniper]

You know what I hate the most about silksong

[polar stag]

I used to hate Khann. I love his fight now. Plus his ost is great

[round creek]

Where is coziest spot in pharloom

[lavish apex]

there is a substantive part of the cradle theme that is not in the ost

[slender juniper]

The SFX is louder than the ost in vannila,why

[still osprey]

Growing up is realizing that even if Khann is easy he is a fun af boss

[eager creek]

The humble audio settings:

[slender juniper]

I don't wanna hear HIRERO IKEA and PRIVIET when I'm fighting lost lace I wanna hear cool violin solos

[slender juniper]

Yeah that's why I said in vannila, most people don't hear the soundtrack fully because of the fuckass sfx

Lost lace is a victim of this

[eager creek]

That's fair lol

[plush knoll]

I like how Shakra's master remembers me of Quirrel due to both dying in a beautiful place, and with water, Blue Lake and the clean part of Bilewater

[slender juniper]

I play with sfx on 5 and music on 10 lol

[compact hemlock]

this was great! fuck sands of Karak

[sturdy totem]

Why can’t I join a vc

[slender juniper]

Newbie

[slender juniper]

!tag perms

[eager creek]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

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[slender juniper]

?tag perms

[white sail]

No tag perms found.

[slender juniper]

RAAAAH

[normal bramble]

Mount Fay done

[slender juniper]

FUCK THIS BOTH MAKE YOUR COMMANDS SINPLE

[normal bramble]

1 death bleh

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-banging-shield-rahhh-thiccatina-gif-2077174781171827192

[sturdy totem]

Bro I could vc even 1mo

[eager creek]

I have it sitting in my clipboard on my phone lol

[sturdy totem]

Why they did this

[slender juniper]

Type it here

[compact hemlock]

yessssssssssss

[polar stag]

there are very few bosses in HK that I think match or exceed Silksong's. Sisters of Battle and Pure Vessel obviously, then HK is really cool, Lost Kin, Sheo, NKG...Hornet Sentinel

[compact hemlock]

all fleas

[mental snow]

So I cloaked as Fourth Chorus died, with like the whole freeze frame from the explosion, and I actually just saw the entire first frame of Hornet's cloak puffing up (where basically her entire body is just exposed)

Funny shit

[eager creek]

Cut down on spam and make vcs slightly easier to moderate

[leaden delta]

eh there’s like a good bit that r as good as ss

particularly actually there’s a tier that doesn’t have any silksong

honestly

[lavish apex]

for me

[leaden delta]

like absrad gpz collector

[polar stag]

i never made it to absrad

[compact hemlock]

ok shit what do I do now idk why the quest doesn't want to unlock

[lavish apex]

skongs are better on average but both the tip of the highs and the lows are lower

[polar stag]

P5 was too much for me

[still osprey]

Are the fleas in fleatopia?

[compact hemlock]

yes all of thrm

[still osprey]

Did you beat Lace 2?

[mental snow]

NO

NO FUCK NO

DUDE, THE TRANSITION FROM FAR FIELDS TO GREYMOOR TAKES ALL OF YOUR SILK

[compact hemlock]

I already beat gms, so, yes

[polar stag]

Idk if there's any boss in HK that matched the experience of Karmelita for me tbh. Ik that's a very basic bitch opinion that "Karmelita is so good!" but it's my honest opinion

[still osprey]

Are there any wishes you haven't completed?

[mental snow]

(then again I might have accidentally performed a frame-perfect bind as I took the transition to Greymoor which took my silk)

[lavish apex]

like for example pure vessel is still handily my favorite franchise boss but karmelita and ll are like just below them

[compact hemlock]

not that I'm aware of

[leaden delta]

Generally what I think

Honestly the only standout boss to me is monstah

[polar stag]

Pure Vessel is great, but my personal fav HK boss is Sisters of Battle

[compact hemlock]

all of the city wishes are done, I did brood feast, witch's crest, hmmm, what others...?

[earnest drift]

nkg

[polar stag]

Sisters of Battle is just peak imo

[leaden delta]

ss just does not have those interesting dynamic bosses. that’s sad there’s nothing

[compact hemlock]

shakras wish of course

[lavish apex]

beastfly 2 is the single worst boss in either game and i will stand on that forever

[still osprey]

These are all the requirements

[compact hemlock]

CORRECT!

[compact hemlock]

ok bell home key is just wrong I only got my bell home act 3 my first playthrough (also what the fuck is balm for the wounded)

[fiery burrow]

Worst boss is unraveled with elder hu close behind imo

[lavish apex]

zango is also highkey worse than every dream warrior except marmu but not oblobbles

[earnest drift]

flukemarm

[polar stag]

I fucking hate Beastfly 2 but my most despised boss in this game is Unravelled. Voltvyrm is terrible too, but at least it's not too long and has a great reward

[still osprey]

You did not get your bellhome in Act 3, it's required to enter it

Balm for the Wounded is Sherma's wish

[earnest drift]

assive ass charger

[lavish apex]

unravelled too from a gameplay standpoint but it at least has aura going for it

[fiery burrow]

Unravelled just has so much waiting

Not a very cool design either imho

[compact hemlock]

I did 😭😭😭, I swear on my mother's life that I got bell home in act 3, but whatever I don't got any proof to back it up so shrug

[lavish apex]

flukemarm and ass charger are so frictionless that i simply do not care about them either way

[polar stag]

fr actually fuck that fight. and I always end up dying a good few times and burning through all my shards on tools

[still osprey]

If you've done all of those then you probably just need to do more wishes

[polar stag]

Unravelled is the ONLY boss in this game that has burned through all my shards

[lavish apex]

lost garmond is also handily down there with hk1's shitters

[compact hemlock]

turns out you have to talk to Sherma to actually get the wish

[slender juniper]

I just practiced high halls gauntlet for a hour

[mental snow]

Moorwing is a more fun boss when you memorize the attacks

[slender juniper]

Lace 2 left type shih

[polar stag]

Moorwing is so good, particularly for an early game boss

[mental snow]

Like doing it without equipment is better, too. Makes the fight longer so you can enjoy it more.

[still osprey]

Moorwing is a great boss in Act 1 but really whatever in Act 2

[earnest drift]

I don’t understand lost garmond hate grahhh

[mental snow]

When we get to Act 3, that's when it gets strange

[polar stag]

lemme see if I can find my clip of pogoing the shit out of Moorwing

[lavish apex]

dream warriors are generally very low effort in their movesets and mostly easy but i appreciate the fact that they encourage dynamic responses

[slender juniper]

Don't be a reaper clip please don't be a reaper clip

[lavish apex]

except for marmu

[earnest drift]

like is he just brooding mawlek level or what

[lavish apex]

marmu has 0 redeeming qualities other than being cute

elder hu sucks too
asckoth is fucking miserable

[polar stag]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight-silksong/clips/ligQbAEP4tWiEN0b2?invite=cr-MSx0SEEsMzAzMTM4MDcx&v=100 here's the one I think.

[lavish apex]

the others i don't have much of a problem with

[earnest drift]

the only way hollow knight makes nail arts useful is by giving you teeth-gratingly agonising bosses to use them in

[still osprey]

even No Eyes?

[eager creek]

I don't think I've ever actually used nail arts in a fight

[lavish apex]

no eyes can be fun sometimes is my hot take

[earnest drift]

case in point markoth and oblobbles

[eager creek]

I always sorta forget about them

[slender juniper]

https://youtu.be/LwG91Lyq3J4?is=Y75BpT_G4vC6cPf9

[mental snow]

Yo I didn't know Sakamoto from the hit anime series Haven't you heard? I'm Sakamoto! plays Silksong

[earnest drift]

is sisters of battle good

[compact hemlock]

they r godly

[earnest drift]

Marmu is also a god according to Godseeker so that doesn’t mean much

[polar stag]

actually Sakamoto Days

[slender juniper]

This was a long time ago too

[earnest drift]

sisters of battle can be a descending dark simulator sometimes

[worldly umbra]

how fire do you think an official hk rap song would be (not from the knight)

[compact hemlock]

question, why am I only grabbing injector band now.

[earnest drift]

bad

[slender juniper]

Hollow knight is a descending dark simulator bruh

[earnest drift]

yeah that’s why it’s a worse game

[slender juniper]

Quiet

[mental snow]

I can't wait to do High Halls with Needle 0, 5 masks, and no Tools (I'm gonna be using Cross Stitch)

[earnest drift]

I love High halls

[slender juniper]

Why no circlet

[earnest drift]

I love all gauntlets there isn’t a single one I dislike

[slender juniper]

I can't imagine doing high halls without circlet

[mental snow]

Toolless

[mental snow]

Skill issue I guess

[slender juniper]

That's hell

[earnest drift]

I don’t see how it’s possible to make a bad gauntlet unless you put 4 complex enemies in a small room at once

[compact hemlock]

high halls gauntlet made my wife leave me

[slender juniper]

Hot take:HHG really isn't that bad

[vivid horizon]

which wave is that

[mental snow]

So I'm gonna be intentionally equipping Barbed Bracelet as soon as I get it (permanently) because it's such a miniscule increase in damage and Needle 0, it's basically a pure nerf

[slender juniper]

With upgrade HHG is quite essy

[slender juniper]

Barbed bracelet needs to be buffed from 25 to 35% be fr

[mental snow]

I thought it was 20%?

[compact hemlock]

ok Sherma you're traumatized now let's go

[slender juniper]

No it's 25

Still dogshit

[fiery burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZV_bUbFgWc

[mental snow]

Didn't realize that, but yeah, still really bad lol

[compact hemlock]

WHAT no way I got all spool fragments

[earnest drift]

none of them

[polar stag]

Ik Moorwing's soundtrack is just Strive, but omg it's so good

[worldly umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329584780840534069/1474877795153871140/image0-1.gif

[earnest drift]

nah it’s a buff because if you get hit too much you’ll eventually die anyway

[wild owl]

someone said something about sea of sorrow only being accesible if youre in act 2, do u think that will be that way?

[earnest drift]

so barbed bracelet is encouraging you to get hit less

[wild owl]

just like hunters crest

[earnest drift]

barbed bracelet does not need a rework in any way it’s perfect the way it is

[mental snow]

I managed to stun Sister Splinter so much to where she didn't do her phase transition, where the vines cage you towards the center

[compact hemlock]

fractured mask worth keeping or nah

[wild owl]

stop loosing track of your fleas man

[wild owl]

its really good in early game

late game there are better tools

[compact hemlock]

well, I'm... Not in early game

[polar stag]

I should probably fire Vog. Can't do her damn job right

[wild owl]

then pick something else blud

like reserve bind

[compact hemlock]

injector band, Long claw and... idk, give me a suggestion

[mental snow]

It's still funny how Moorwing technically has a void form

[compact hemlock]

oh yeah that exists

[wild owl]

yeah long claw and injector, and uh the tool that makes u heal 4 masks is so much better

[compact hemlock]

sure

[wild owl]

💔 💔 💔

could vog beat cloth in a fight?

like serious debate

[polar stag]

no

Vog wouldn't get up to do anything other than fucking Flea Dodge

[wild owl]

dang

[slender juniper]

Hot take: injector band is overrated

[polar stag]

I don't see Vog fighting Traitor Lord

[compact hemlock]

why

[slender juniper]

Because I don't make dumb heals

[fiery burrow]

I don't see anyone overrating injector band I think everyone just kinda thinks its decent

[wild owl]

ehh true

[slender juniper]

If you know your opportunities for healing you don't need the band

And can replace it with something like...peak circlet

[compact hemlock]

wear barbed bracelet

[slender juniper]

No fuck that thing

Tho I did beat lost lace with barbed bracelet

[compact hemlock]

let's go silk and soul

[polar stag]

Oh I kinda do hope Vog is a boss in Godhome 2 tho

[compact hemlock]

hmm...

spool extender... max spools...

[mental snow]

Bro I'm somehow getting my ass handed to me at Widow

Like yeah, 5 masks and no tools, but still

[compact hemlock]

I love fighting widow, I can't wait for godhoke

[lavish apex]

best act 1 boss

[compact hemlock]

TRUE

[worldly umbra]

i know ive posted this a bunch but how do yall like this map and what would you change about it (bigger dosent mean better btw)

[compact hemlock]

what is that?

[worldly umbra]

seth game map

[compact hemlock]

oooh

[worldly umbra]

heres the lore https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PVDnpEit-CK5QHdydI2uXfbNrb7yk-bJ-lqGcZ1CGLw/edit?usp=sharing

the game name is steelshatter btw

[vivid horizon]

Does he fight hornet in this one

[compact hemlock]

let's do this bitch boy

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-gif-26414895

[vivid horizon]

Aw myann

[compact hemlock]

time to kill a grandma

[worldly umbra]

but the plot twist ending is actually peak

i spent so much time on the doc if you read it i would appreciate it

[rotund gate]

why cant the beastlings enter the abyss just curious

[vivid horizon]

Alr sure! Will check it out in my free time

[compact hemlock]

void

[rotund gate]

oh

[worldly umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1157578619296698390/1454630362218233959/attachment.gif

[rotund gate]

i actually assumed it was cuz the lava above

[vivid horizon]

Silly boi

[compact hemlock]

THAT too

[exotic dome]

hhg is peak

[compact hemlock]

anyway chat wish me luck with gms

[mental snow]

Killed Widow
That took me longer than it should've, lol
I was playing way too recklessly for someone who had jack shit for survivability

[worldly umbra]

do you guys want a simplified version of my seth game lore

[slender juniper]

While barbed?

[lavish apex]

thinking hhg is bad is like a purely casual relatively lower skill take i think

[exotic dome]

oh no i have to kill enemies in a metroidvania game

[mental snow]

Nah I forgot to get to Sinner's Road, I kinda just b-lined to Widow

[steep jolt]

who is hhg?

[slender juniper]

...what's hard about widow

[worldly umbra]

oh no i have to medtroid the vania in a medtroidvania game 😧

[vivid horizon]

High halls gauntlet

[steep jolt]

ah

[mental snow]

5 masks and toolless, played too recklessly

Also generally shit at dodging

[slender juniper]

That's...you're kinda supposed to have 5 masks by widow

[steep jolt]

i also struggled on her the first time, in second phase i just toolspammed

[mental snow]

Does bro not know about the 5 mask shards before Widow

[slender juniper]

And there's like shit blues in act 1

[steep jolt]

cuz i had long pin and straight pin

[lavish apex]

you can only have 6 at most for widow

[slender juniper]

Too long to get fuck that

[mental snow]

Does bro not know about Fractured Mask and Warding Bell

[steep jolt]

warding bell

[exotic dome]

fractured mask

[lavish apex]

warding bell is overrated

[slender juniper]

Shih bruh I'm a Speedrunner all of those take too long

[steep jolt]

ima be honest i didnt get fractured mask until 100 + hours on my save

[compact hemlock]

nevermind chat I got hit like twice

[mental snow]

Nah that's fair

I'm more Steel Soul-coded

[lavish apex]

only ever good for witch nukes which is like a super sweaty minmax tech

[exotic dome]

i died to widow in my steel soul attenpts too, it happens

[lavish apex]

fractmask is good though

[steep jolt]

warding bell is a pretty nice tool overall

[mental snow]

I never died to Widow in Steel Soul

[compact hemlock]

this was so fucking easy how the hell did this happen

[mental snow]

I'm just doing a challenge run rn

[slender juniper]

Last run I almost killed widow but then a bell bounced of the ground

[worldly umbra]

i never tried steel soul

[compact hemlock]

same

[steep jolt]

is ts tuff

[vivid horizon]

Tuff

[compact hemlock]

yes

[exotic dome]

peak

[slender juniper]

I don't think I'll try steel soul

[worldly umbra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jack-black-opening-book

[compact hemlock]

unn Glazerr? good

[slender juniper]

I think any% steelsoul is too easy for me ngl

[vivid horizon]

I still have yet to do it

[worldly umbra]

whats it about tho

[compact hemlock]

do 100% steel soul

[vivid horizon]

READ

[slender juniper]

When you're a Speedrunner forced to do entirety of act 2 with 5 masks steel soul becomes kinda easy

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-paper-coach-meme-gif-1598633554401345489

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-please-speed-i-need-this-tired-blow-gif-15401023925154467112

[slender juniper]

Only thing I'd have to practice is lost lace

[worldly umbra]

does it mean a bigger map or what i dont get it

[slender juniper]

But I'm pretty good at her I think

[exotic dome]

he is actually ari gibeon and this is city of steel dlc he is teasing it

[compact hemlock]

nice

[steep jolt]

adds new areas

[lavish apex]

steel heart is not fun

[slender juniper]

Why is the spool gay

[worldly umbra]

what the actual freak is the first one supposed to be

[worldly umbra]

but i like the second one

[slender juniper]

RGB moss grotto

[worldly umbra]

kinda

[exotic dome]

i only did steel heart and speedrun to get achievements

[compact hemlock]

I miss spiral tower, I wished I knew how to code or draw so that I could make spiral tower

[mental snow]

Barbed Bracelet, the only yellow tool I'll be getting because it's actively detrimental

[slender juniper]

Spiral what

[lavish apex]

speedrun achievement IS fun imo honestly

[steep jolt]

we actually have some city of steel assets for the future

[compact hemlock]

area cut from the game

[lavish apex]

might have been my favorite 3 hours i've spent with the game

[worldly umbra]

the 2nd one reminds me of the hivedrawer map he drew a long time ago before ss released

[steep jolt]

a colorful version of moss grotto

[worldly umbra]

theres a room that kinda looks like the second one

[exotic dome]

thats neat

[slender juniper]

You mean lifeblood tower

Idk no spiral tower

[vivid horizon]

I'm in act 3 (already beat lost lace) and still don't got frac mask

[compact hemlock]

no, I mean the one related to the shamans

[worldly umbra]

you part of this project?

[slender juniper]

Send

Pic

[compact hemlock]

https://youtu.be/_MOPF7Narro?si=iQbI1i130kLImwGf

hornet please stop dyint

[vivid horizon]

How cruel! They're cutting the snails!

[earnest drift]

i would like to cut the shamans
in half

[worldly umbra]

@steep jolt can you tell me what you plan to add in this project im interested

[lavish apex]

this looks like white palace

[compact hemlock]

ik right?

[worldly umbra]

i could be the idea creator i guess

[mental snow]

Barbed Bracelet is now equipped

Me Needle now does 6 damage. Such wow. But more importantly, I take double damage from everything (except void attacks for some reason).

[worn reef]

i never got to the firebrothers until act 3 awhile back do I need the simple key in act 2

[mental snow]

Time to kill Phantom now

[ember geode]

Why would you use it then

[mental snow]

Challenge run.

Needle 0, 5 masks, toolless (except for Bracelet)

[vale whale]

city of steel should have its own game imo

[exotic dome]

nothing confirmed yet. it would be lame if they make it act 2 exclusive tho

[ember geode]

Toolless is the hardest modifier there

Good luck

[vale whale]

thk in city of steel would be so peak, you play as a bigger and slower guy in a bigger and more dangerous world

[mental snow]

Double damage on 5 masks but aight

[slender juniper]

Definitely

Pharloom bay is connected to bilewater

[vale whale]

the city of steel has no beasts or monsters the enemy is how smart they are

[ember geode]

If you had tools they would die too fast for them to damage you in the first place

[vivid horizon]

Lowkey on a mission to destroy ever void mass in pharloom

[vale whale]

• slowly regaining your strength as you go on would be sick

[slender juniper]

Oh ,no it's probably gonna stay the same in act3 but voidrd

[worn reef]

do I need simple key for deep docks brother boss

idr their name

[slender juniper]

No

[vale whale]

maybe thk absorbs soul/void creatures or something which are enslaved by the city of steel

[exotic dome]

[vale whale]

to heal itself

we do know that the city of steel enslaves gods

[worn reef]

thanks

[compact hemlock]

I'm sorry?

[vale whale]

the cradle lore tab

[slender juniper]

Voided regeneration sorrowful heroined lifeblood god

[ember geode]

What would bring them to the city of steel though

[earnest drift]

playable thk

[vale whale]

depends

[vale whale]

i think it would be cool, we already have all rounder play style and agile play style

[earnest drift]

how would their size work

[compact hemlock]

longclaw my beloved

[vale whale]

i wouldnt mind a bulkier heavier stronger mc

[worn reef]

arent they supposed to be in the room connected to the void thing

[vale whale]

the city of steel is presumably super advanced, big guy in a bigger world

[magic scroll]

[slender juniper]

How would we play as THK if we can't fit through a fucking doorwat

[gilded nymph]

Guys come to art gallery ( i tried a trend)

[earnest drift]

so you want them fighting cats and dogs or something

[slender juniper]

Also how would we play the game with immerse daddy issues and trauma

[vale whale]

theyre not cat or dog sized😭😭

[vale whale]

hornet has both of those

[ember geode]

Doesn’t hornet also share the same issues

[earnest drift]

bosses are generally much larger than the protagonist

[slender juniper]

Like does bro just see orange and start screening

[worn reef]

idr how to get to the east side of the one door

[earnest drift]

no hornet does not have daddy issues because she never cared about her father

[gilded nymph]

Guys can yall come to the art gallery

[ember geode]

yooooo that would actually be really cool

[worn reef]

in deep docks

[slender juniper]

Yes but THK has 2× more or those he was locked with the orange juice

[vale whale]

unironically would be cool

[gilded nymph]

Can anyone come to art gallery?

[earnest drift]

also i don't want to play another protagonist with a moveset similar to the knight

[vale whale]

that's even better

[earnest drift]

and ANOTHER silent protagonist

[gilded nymph]

@earnest drift can you come to art gallery

[vale whale]

complex character writing in a silent character? FUCK YEAH

[slender juniper]

Bro is litteraly limping

[vale whale]

as i said they could regain their strength

maybe thats why they go to the city of steel ds2 style

[slender juniper]

How do you regenerate and arm

[vale whale]

you dont

[slender juniper]

Is bro an a lizard

[earnest drift]

wow imagine if we already had that

[compact hemlock]

hi bell eater

[ember geode]

They start speaking mid way through the playthrough

[earnest drift]

this would shatter the lore

[slender juniper]

Quirrel prequel for the win

[ember geode]

slowly but surely forming more and more words

[vale whale]

why are you naming traits for a good character and acting like that means it cant happen

[vale whale]

no

[vivid horizon]

EW

[mental snow]

Having trouble finding the Mist entrance through Sinners Road so Imma just go through Bilewater

Gonna have to get there eventually so why not now

[ember geode]

They aren’t hollow so they might as well get a voice

[slender juniper]

THK game sounds like a horrible idea ngl

[earnest drift]

because i hate the hollow knight they're a woobified suffering dummy (this is an exaggeration they are much more than that)

[ember geode]

Yeah I’m just entertaining ideas

[slender juniper]

There's not really a continuation for their character

[vale whale]

" daddy issues and trauma " COMPLEX AND TROUBLED CHARACTERS CANT HAVE GAMES??!?!??!?! " missing an arm " DISABLED CHARACTERS CANT HAVE GAMES??!??!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!

[compact hemlock]

how did I die to the belleater

[earnest drift]

the missing an arm part would be interesting tbf

[simple isle]

By dying to it🤔

[slender juniper]

Disabled characters can have games just not COMBAT games ok

[ember geode]

Are you a bell?

[compact hemlock]

maybe

[slender juniper]

[earnest drift]

have you heard of endoparasitic

[vale whale]

dost thou hath no interest in a unique combat system

[simple isle]

Why not tho, i feel like you can do some cool stuff with it

[eager creek]

Oh brother... That's certainly a statement

[ember geode]

Then they ate you. Case closed

[slender juniper]

When the mc is in a wheelchair and it's a slice of life game but when the mc is in a wheelchair and it's a combat game

[vale whale]

that is NOT the same as an arm

[earnest drift]

wheelchair laser gun GO

[zinc wharf]

Hey, I beat Bell Beast! ||With only Needle Phial||

[simple isle]

What if you can shoot the wheels and they come back to you like a boomerang🤔✌️

[ember geode]

Anyways a slower hollow knight game is not the best idea

[compact hemlock]

Sorry?

[ember geode]

ESPECIALLY after we just had silksong lol

[exotic dome]

thk should get a mechanical arm

[slender juniper]

You end up on the ground

[vale whale]

thk was a trained swordsbeing reduced to an ailing disabled very very sad guy

[zinc wharf]

Is something wrong?

[compact hemlock]

how does it happen

[eager elm]

you

[simple isle]

Oh yeah

[vale whale]

i wanted to mention wolf but ehhh he has a metal arm

[slender juniper]

How do you attach it to void

[eager elm]

your idea of fun

[eager creek]

Have you no creativity? There's a few things I can imagine doing with this

[earnest drift]

if the hollow knight became a protagonist they would need to fight much larger enemies for the scale to still work, so the camera would likely have to zoom out

[zinc wharf]

How does what happen?

[exotic dome]

tape

[vale whale]

i think it would be cool if thk comes to terms with their suffering and their losses on their journey

[compact hemlock]

phial

[vivid horizon]

Poke, poke!

[eager creek]

Also automatically equating disabled to being in a wheelechair is a very limited idea of disabilities

[earnest drift]

there isn't really a way to avoid a repeat of having another silent protagonist with little personality

[vale whale]

they dont need a new arm and they dont need magic heals they need to accept their pain as part of themself and soldier onward

[earnest drift]

unless they give it their all in making thk expressive without words

[ember geode]

I would actually rather thk settle in hallownest, fuck around, try and help as much people as they can

[vale whale]

this is team cherry we're talking about they can do thos

[zinc wharf]

You can skip Bell Beast by going through Wormways. It’s tedious and precise, but it’s possible. This allows you to get a bunch of upgrades first.

[slender juniper]

I'm intrigued

[earnest drift]

and yeah thk needs to become much more complex in order to not be a knight clone

[vale whale]

they have the potential

[worn reef]

i cannot find the signis and gron entry

[slender juniper]

How would you even continue the vessels story there's nothing to continue

[eager creek]

But regardless, I don't think THK would be a good protagonist for another hk based game

[eager elm]

the next game should be before HK; Hollow Knight: Wanderer showing Quirrel's journey through the kingdom out yonder and ending with the Quirrel comic (Returning to Hallownest through the wastelands due to a call from monomon)

[simple isle]

I mean THK already had complex lore set up in hollow knight so i feel like they could do it

[worn reef]

some clawline

[earnest drift]

put them in a new kingdom and start a new story

a kingdom that they have no connection with

[vale whale]

hell maybe thk goes to the city of steel to be healed ds2 style (of course very unlikely i doubt anybody except jiji and jinn know of it)

[slender juniper]

THK has the character development of an abused child but there's no comeback

How

[eager elm]

Steel Assasin Sharp

[vale whale]

wtf

[earnest drift]

thk has complex lore but as a character they're not very impressive
they're just suffering and they have development at the very end of the game

[compact hemlock]

I mean how does needle phial do da WAIT A MINUTE

[slender juniper]

Am I wrong tho

[simple isle]

Thats true🤔

[vale whale]

abused people just have to sit down and suffer???

i dont get what you mean man

[eager elm]

i will stand by quirrel game

[slender juniper]

[eager elm]

prequel

[compact hemlock]

same

[slender juniper]

Do you understand English

[zinc wharf]

It can damage non-Plasmium things. 24 damage per hit at max Crafting Kit upgrades.

[eager elm]

he canonically HAD an adventure in another kingdom, no?

[earnest drift]

this would also work but if he says "KASAHH" in the game i'm not playing it

[exotic cedar]

What if the new game is not hk related and something new

[vale whale]

why is there no comeback

[eager elm]

die

free thinkers? lame

[simple isle]

Would be funny if they just made an entirely new guy called pedro connected to nothing and gave him a new story

[slender juniper]

Comeback at who ,the pale king is dead

[vale whale]

experimenting would be cool

[simple isle]

And yes he has to be called Pedro

[vale whale]

a comeback doesnt have to be revenge

[eager creek]

Tbh, I want tc's next game to be something completely new. I want to see what other ideas they have

[zinc wharf]

I want a game where we play as Sly.

[simple isle]

Yes

[exotic cedar]

New universe + another genre

Their artstyle is cool af

[earnest drift]

nooooooo

[vale whale]

agreed

[eager elm]

Pablo
```fix

[vale whale]

they made the bugs by putting together shapes which is awesome

[earnest drift]

pablo should be demolished

[slender juniper]

Playing as THK is the same equivalent of playing as zote, limps every 3rd step and is unable to use his name due to trauma

[vale whale]

but i still genuinely think thk has a ton of potential as a character for a game and their playstyle could be fun

[eager creek]

Hollow Knight fans discover shape language in art

[zinc wharf]

Instead of a metroidvania, it’s a tycoon simulator where Sly aims to take over the global market.

[vale whale]

peak

[eager elm]

Hatamas Geo?

[earnest drift]

nvm i like now

[worn reef]

wait do I srs need to do the bottom farfields route for the fire bros in deep docks

[vale whale]

sly IS a super smart guy business wise

[simple isle]

I wanna see team cherry make a roguelike i feel like it could be fun

[compact hemlock]

it would

[vale whale]

he has his prices low for the low demand but when the knight pops up he raises his prices a fuckton

[eager creek]

That or the simple key door in docks

[exotic cedar]

That'd be fire

[slender juniper]

The next games mc shouldn't be somebody we've seen

[worn reef]

thanks no wonder I was stuck

[slender juniper]

Except quirrel prequel cuz peak

[compact hemlock]

l pfp

[vale whale]

i either want a thk in the city of steel sequel or a new guy

[slender juniper]

And like flinch said

[eager creek]

Flinch

[slender juniper]

TC has been making hollow knight for 8 years

And more

Actually way more

It's 11 years I think?

[exotic dome]

since 2014 iirc

[simple isle]

I'd prefer an entirely new character, new universe and new storyline. I feel like the hollow knight universe has enough

[rotund gate]

FUCK LOST LACE I WAS SO CLOSE TO BEATING HER BUT I DIED 😭 😭

[earnest drift]

would it be weird if the hollow knight looked a lot smaller because the camera had to zoom out to make the game playable

[exotic dome]

after all silksong dlcs are out i agree

[earnest drift]

at their current size they wouldn't work as a protag

[slender juniper]

PREQUIRREL

[rotund gate]

thk prequel

[dapper pulsar]

i have to plat this game but like

[slender juniper]

Eww

[dapper pulsar]

its so long bruhh

[earnest drift]

i don't really like this even though it would work better

[simple isle]

What if instead of playing a small bug like we do now, our MC is just a really big guy😭✌️

[earnest drift]

maybe i just don't like the hollow knight lol

[vale whale]

yeah obviously

[slender juniper]

The problem with THK is that they are WAY too large for a protagonist

[exotic dome]

good luck in steel soul lol

[slender juniper]

Like doorway unable to go through type

[vale whale]

youve just been shitting on their character in the most reductive way calling them a suffering pony or whatever

[earnest drift]

but what if the camera zooms out and they fight much bigger enemies

[vale whale]

youre clearly biased

[slender juniper]

That...would just need there to be a "giant", kingdom

[vale whale]

ignoring every bit of nuance about thk and dumbing them down to a suffering merchant

[eager creek]

Yea, if they had to scale Pharloom the way they did for Hornet to work, THK would just be absurd. At their size it would be inconvenient

[dapper pulsar]

not even like concerned about steelsoul im just annoyed i have to do two other playhtoughs

[slender juniper]

Like a kingdom with giant ass bugs

[vale whale]

city of steel just saying definitely possible

[heady iron]

if tc made a game with a furry protagonist next they'd make trillions

[vale whale]

i dont know how spexifically but defimitwly possible

[slender juniper]

City of steel doesn't have giant bugs

[vale whale]

and i would get to say nine sols ripoff and dog on it

[simple isle]

Have them crawl like this for the entire game

[dapper pulsar]

i hope we fight the lifeblood god

[slender juniper]

I am 100% sure the next games mc isn't THK

[vale whale]

yeah i never said it would be ive been saying it would be cool

[earnest drift]

thk has masses of potential for complexity but i feel like we're left to figure out majority of it
like the very, very popular idea of the paradox of the hollow knight needing to be hollow to save everyone, but if they were truly hollow, they wouldn't care to save everyone, and they wouldn't care to make their father proud
i'm pretty sure that's completely inferred and it's not brought up anywhere in the game

[slender juniper]

It's just...cool is okay but there are way too many issues

[vale whale]

size can be dealt with

no offense so.e of your issues are rhe fact they have mental issues and theyre physically disabled

i really struggle to take you seriously

[slender juniper]

The character is way too big
They have one hand missing
Limps every 3rd step

[earnest drift]

what's wrong with having one arm missing

[exotic dome]

fair, i recommend trying different builds. it could be fun

[vale whale]

yeah what is wrong with them being physically disabled😭😭😭

have thou no creativity

[slender juniper]

There's nothing wrong but you have a CLEAR disantvantage at conbat

[simple isle]

The map can be bigger
You can fight with one arm
Limping idk😭✌️

[vale whale]

they heal over the game

[earnest drift]

being weak at the start and working to endure it is a good thing actually

[dapper pulsar]

what if it is tho

[earnest drift]

hornet has that

[exotic cedar]

Just give them a prostetic arm

[vale whale]

wouldnt it be so cool slowly recovering as the environment gets weaker and weaker

[earnest drift]

OVERUSED

[slender juniper]

Yes but not one arm type

[vale whale]

i woulfnt like that alot personally

[exotic cedar]

Just give them 3 arms

[exotic dome]

but it lOOKS cool

[slender juniper]

They're litteral mask is cracked for gods sake

[earnest drift]

ok and

[vale whale]

i think part of thk's story is that they've suffered so much and embracing their suffering as a part of themself would be one of the least hollow things one can do

[simple isle]

A one armed nail fighter would already be tuff

[slender juniper]

Since their mask is cracked that means less health

[earnest drift]

being weak at the start is a good thing it gives them somewhere to climb up from

[slender juniper]

Attacks could do triple damage

[earnest drift]

ok now you're making things up

[earnest drift]

this is a good thing

[simple isle]

Super glue

[vale whale]

rather then standing there and taking all of the pain like they did to appease pk they indirectly defy his memory and assimilate all theyve been through into their being

[earnest drift]

is lace disabled