sk-discussion

[brave geyser]

see why people call it the roaring fraud now

[rough pawn]

are you conservative?

[brave geyser]

Ei you seeing this shit

[plush plover]

idk

[timid valve]

I still don't know which debug mods to use to get that on my map

[brave geyser]

You actually just spawned in for this 😭

[delicate temple]

Unironically a Sans victim

[rough pawn]

I'm looking for like minded individuals to broaden my horizons.

[graceful oyster]

Chorus bot was sent to kill pinstress, she shut it down, but it wakes up when it notices your cloak

[hexed sonnet]

Holy fuck

[still osprey]

well, the citadel sent fourth chorus to kill seamstress, and she fought it, and put her pin into its head. It awakens after you get drifter's cloak cuz it senses seamstress from it

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/gabriel-ultrakill-ultrakill-gabriel-gianni-leaving-gif-15030774067496747782

[plush plover]

no voided beastfly smh smh

[still osprey]

it's cut content, only in the files

[rough pawn]

what if i was a voided beastfly mx. ei (washed)?

[still osprey]

gotta wait for sea of sorrow to get it in-game

[plush plover]

I would support your endeavors

[brave geyser]

1. It would've actually been easier no joke
2. Iam forced to get a needle upgrade for act 3
3. If i want minimum tools iam forced to do beastfly 2

[rough pawn]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[rich wyvern]

I was shaking in my boots watching that holy
Almost as bad as a job application

[timid valve]

I remember something about it being summonable. Cap?

[still osprey]

not as far as I know

[brave geyser]

You should've seen me i was no joke whimpering

[rough pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801690107560067072/1474615347079544915/togif.gif

[plush plover]

aw man

[brave geyser]

savage beastfly 2 by far is the hardest boss in the entire run holy fuck

[plush plover]

i need to hop sk again but hk is much more fun atm

[rough pawn]

no gif perms. My life is awful.

[rich wyvern]

Average savage beastfly experience

[orchid locust]

@brave geyser @plush plover @rough pawn if you were a choir clapper would you be slimed out by mehieddin7

[brave geyser]

100%

[restive ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1480852203882414120/CERST_SWITCHER2.webp

[plush plover]

I hope not.

[brave geyser]

Not even GROAL was that bad and i had been through shit like this

[plush plover]

I hope to accrue good enough karma to atleast be a tarmite or something

[brave geyser]

Not if you let me use barbed bracelet and hunter crest's needle though

[hexed sonnet]

Why're you playing on mobile

[keen solstice]

Woe, bs hitbox be upon ye

[brave geyser]

See the funny thing about having religious parents is that they think spending money online is prohibited + they also think google would steal their money

also i kinda don't have any other device

[plush plover]

mobile player spotted, unleashing the anti piracy speech

[brave geyser]

i have 8$ but i literally can't pay

[hexed sonnet]

Why don't you just pirate

[brave geyser]

I hate it here sometimes

[brave geyser]

[plush plover]

smh

[brave geyser]

uh

i didn't see that one coming

[opaque sigil]

he... did

[brave geyser]

Ok but i do 6 masks of damage

[steep jolt]

dude he can pay and wants to the only reason he pirates is cuz his parents wont let him buy it

[mental bear]

my parents had the same fear until I suggested them the concept of gift cards

[plush plover]

?

[hexed sonnet]

I mean pirate on a laptop because the game would be properly playable

[keen solstice]

Have fun reaching me through those hitboxes

[steep jolt]

his parents think its gonna steal their banking info or something

[plush plover]

idk what that has to do with what i said but alright

[brave geyser]

If i had my own way of paying i would've literally repented with how much pirating i did

[brave geyser]

Oh ei already knows like a long time ago

[plush plover]

yea lmao

i was joking because of other things that get said about mobile players

[brave geyser]

okay but hear me out
Do steel soul no upgrades no tools beast crest only

[brave geyser]

I would do the same thing but like gift cards are pretty rare here

like iam sure the closest store which sells them is 2 cities away or smth

[mental bear]

once my dad's account got $5 deducted through my gmail via a game my sis played

[brave geyser]

Was it atleast a decent game

Let me guess

baby panda princess castle

[rich wyvern]

My money is on a mobile game with a 5$ weekly subscription to remove ads

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/life-is-roblox-life-roblox-is-dj-khaled-gif-8271039727770837203

[mental bear]

also my gmail has nothing to do with my dad's account and my sis didn't even do shi bout buying stuff

[steep jolt]

id lowk play ts

[mental bear]

without asking first

[brave geyser]

Please don't be Pvz1

[brave geyser]

Wait huh

[mental bear]

it was lowk a relaxing game called Light a way

[plush plover]

spending money on mobile games

[mental bear]

but she didnt do any transactions without permission

[brave geyser]

Shit

So my parents were right all along ;-;

I thought only steam had that kind of stuff

[mental bear]

idk how tf my gmail has to do with the transactions

so I had to change my password immediately after that happened

[brave geyser]

Of course your dad blamed it on you immediately

[mental bear]

it only happened once

[brave geyser]

how'd you get out of that

What's that

That shit just exists?

[mental bear]

I did told him after he checked his balance and went "what happened to some money". They were like defensive bout my gmail and told me to secure it asap

[brave geyser]

least he understood immediately

[cloud parcel]

doing a second playthrough of silksong, just got wall jump, doing Flexile Spines wish right now.

[steep jolt]

son

[brave geyser]

wait a minute

[mental bear]

yea he and mom give benefits of a doubt

[cloud parcel]

ngl i could just leave far fields right now and get another crest lwk

[brave geyser]

Lowk w

[subtle skiff]

The distribution and help-thereof of copyrighted material is against TOS and will get you banned from here if mods see you doing it fyi

[steep jolt]

like look he pirated every game her exept for the want to plays and minecraft

[brave geyser]

If it was my parents i would've been out already ggs

[brave geyser]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm

Cromecloride i changed my mind maybe you want to delete that

[steep jolt]

this isnt mine

[subtle skiff]

Yeah the scene for piracy related Software is huge, as long as you arent directly distributing its a bit of a legal grey area and github doesnt give a shit either way if the repo isnt flagged by companies lmao

[brave geyser]

Ik but now that i think about it does this count as helping with piracy

[subtle skiff]

Yes, atleast when naming actual tools

[steep jolt]

all im doing is showing how my pirate friend wont pirate silksong

[brave geyser]

true

[arctic epoch]

it all sucks, everything is grey and dull

[brave geyser]

Okay i just needed confirmation and lowk W lol

[brave geyser]

Like wanderer

[steep jolt]

wanderers crest is the definition of a large corporate factory

[mental bear]

me who did silksong first playthrough, left at act 2, started hk first time, completed it, returned to silksong and restarted the run (second playthrough)

[steep jolt]

shamans crest on the other hand is a small game dev studio like team cherry

[brave geyser]

I gave it up moment i realized pogo doesn't give iframes

[mental bear]

what made you think that?

[brave geyser]

I fr quit at craw gauntlet went to hk beat p5ab went back still got folded by savage beastfly 1 but finished it lmao

[brave geyser]

some of the other pogos do give iframes (beast witch hunter)

[mental bear]

I'd have never thought that

since I'd use sharp dart just for that

[brave geyser]

although small they can save you in situations like this (iam spamming ts fuckass clip atp)

[mental bear]

oh so thats how you no clipped through him

[arctic epoch]

A wanderer, i am
The very last cliff i climb, yet nothing but a mild breeze await me

Homestuck, i wonder? if life is to not die
why my heart burn alive, yet my soul already gone quiet
This land, this place, these very hands, it's all mundane
Now or sooner, nothing truly remain

Just dirt and sand, mixed together as my remains... choose to fade
I strided this rock, i shout my name, i stood strong what i faced
yet now when i look back, nothing left but an uneasy haze

Hm, everything sucks, it's all dull and grey.

[cloud parcel]

Just got drifters cloak

[brave geyser]

it's also why you see speedrunners phasing through grand reeds by pogo dashing through them

[mental bear]

so you have to dash as soon as you hit someone

[steep jolt]

yea thats becase wanderers is so good its bad

[cloud parcel]

gonna go fight widow now

[brave geyser]

Possible homestuck reference?

[mental bear]

is this how they also clip through the last spikes in high halls

[vast bolt]

Are the Citadellers Globalists? Why do they have globe symbols on ther clothes?

[arctic epoch]

funny inspiration strong enough for me to write something out of it

oh, everything written in there is how i truly feel about life btw

[vast bolt]

By globe I mean the table globe.

[brave geyser]

I don't think iframes work against hazards now
it's how people pogo phantom's dive with beast and not take damage tho

[mental bear]

save Icon also has that

[steep jolt]

wait in undertale ||if i kill undyne do i get genocide ending||

[brave geyser]

no

you have to || deliberately hunt like 63 monsters beforehand in order to do so||

[vast bolt]

What does the symbol mean?

[arctic epoch]

y'all should listen to lemonade by Zamir & Marc

[brave geyser]

Fine i will

[restive ibex]

Wait, does beast crest pogo have I frames?

[mental bear]

that 'globe' you're seeing is actually large ball of silk

[brave geyser]

After it hits
Not sure if you can't get hit as a chainsaw

Y'all don't search up socrates on tenor 😭

[steep jolt]

yall should listen to can can by offenbach

[mental bear]

assuming from that question I dont think they have encountered gms yet

[restive ibex]

I was able to dodge radiance full screen vertical lasers with beast crest pogo without hitting anything, but I thought it was just the radiance mod being jank

[plush plover]

all pogos do beast gives the most afaik

[arctic epoch]

y'all should listen to Toast by Claudia

[brave geyser]

Wanderer gives i frames?

[void moat]

oh, whoops

[plush plover]

yeah just less than others

same as reaper and architect for some reason

[mental bear]

I'd have to make my brain learn the 30 degree pogo 😭

[brave geyser]

Some attacks have a hitbox where you can hit them although invisible
phantom's dive and ABYSS SHRIEK FROM HOLLOW KNIGHTS as an example

Iam not counting 1221 wraiths

[plush plover]

i love abyss shrieks hitbox

we ARE counting 1221 wraiths

[brave geyser]

no wraiths is ass you can't make me

[plush plover]

wrogo my beloved (never tried it once in their life)

[brave geyser]

Don't do 1221 wraiths pogo or play clash of clans

[mental bear]

dk wat that means but ok

[plush plover]

this is hard

im incapable of either

[steep jolt]

yall should listen to cogwork core by christopher larkin

[restive ibex]

I mean, just turning into a saw blade lets you pass through radiance attacks without damage, no bounce reaction

[steep jolt]

welp, clash of clans it is

[arctic epoch]

hmmm, this song sounds so strange, i wonder how it would sound like

[plush plover]

you can pogo off your wraiths in hollow knight version 1.2.2.1

[steep jolt]

listen to the entertainer by the guy i forgor

[plush plover]

in the same manner that you would pogo off abyss shriek

[brave geyser]

Fine i will

[mental bear]

dang ppl are NUTS thinking this can be achievable

[plush plover]

scott joplin

[arctic epoch]

Do robots have conciousness?

[plush plover]

ragtime is neat

[mental bear]

they dont have emotions until you command them so

[arctic epoch]

is that conciousness? or is that just a lack of command?

[mental bear]

conciousness can only come if no human has given a command that a machine did without it, but ppl will only believe its just buggy or glitchy until it does constantly after tweaking it

[arctic epoch]

y'all should watch this guy btw

[subtle skiff]

Well youd need to define what kind of robot and what you define as "consciousness"

[arctic epoch]

does that mean self-fuctioning robots have conciousness?

[arctic epoch]

say, a robot that scan a paper, if it's black, it emits 0, if it's white, it emits 1

does it have conciousness?

[mental bear]

no you gave a command to it

[vale whale]

isnt that just logic

[arctic epoch]

mm, no human needed, it just scan a paper

[vale whale]

yeah thats just like coding or whatever

if=then else=then or somethjng

[mental bear]

you just described automation, and no that also doesn't satisfying the concept of 'conciousness'

[subtle skiff]

If consciousness is defined as the ability to collect and process some form of data through some form of stimuli then yes

[arctic epoch]

so whats the concept of conciousness? whats the true definition of it tho? who are we to decide the meaning of conciousness if we simply pop into it?

[subtle skiff]

Most people would not agree with that definition ofcourse, but then most people would not agree upon any kind of definition of conciousness lol

[steep jolt]

say, a nerve in your brain that sends an electrical signal if you see 1, but doesnt if you see 0,

does it have conciousness?

[arctic epoch]

does it? can i even answer that?

if for all i knew growing up, i can only see 1 or 0, do i have conciousness?

[steep jolt]

uh idk

[arctic epoch]

or my perception is restrained by a higher up being?

[steep jolt]

im not the philosophical sorta guy

[sharp tundra]

is sea of sorrow tomorrow

[steep jolt]

passed 2k hours a bit ago

[mental bear]

you have given the choice to make decisions which is how human have designed ai to have decisions based on a medium

[graceful cairn]

I'm not even to 200 bro what are you doing

[arctic epoch]

so ai have conciousness?

[steep jolt]

actually i dont think ai has full conciousness yet because chatgpt will litterally just agree with you no matter what

[mental bear]

not yet

[graceful cairn]

not ever

[steep jolt]

its a weird glitch where steam says its always running even tho i dont have it open

[graceful cairn]

close it imo

[sharp tundra]

and still no all achviements

[steep jolt]

i like taking my time

[mental bear]

best way to play

[sharp tundra]

i will take YOUR time
now look at Oreo

[steep jolt]

damn

[arctic epoch]

i don't think conciousness is something definable
and if something is yet to be definable, i don't think any specific selection of things are classified as not having a consience because of what we see

the canvas of the world, of the true definition of non-conscience was within us all. The single solid proof to explain conscience that we all went through, the blackness, the slight blink of an experience before we come into life. Before we gain conciousness

So does my book have a conscience? Does my monitor have a conscience? How can i choose what they get to be? Maybe conciousness is just our own brain in its own vacuum. Because whatever we think, whatever we do and whatever that pop up in our head. It stays in there. If i was non-reactable, deaf, blind, mute and paralyzed. And a foreign species approach me and define me as non-conciousness. Am i non-conciousness if my means to communicate even the slightest of refusal is severed?

[cloud parcel]

just beat Widow, gonna go do greymoor now

[sharp tundra]

Wat

Did u go from wormways

[cloud parcel]

wormways skip to shellwood

[subtle skiff]

I mean i agree with the overall point, our actual experience with consciousness is limited to our own personal existence, which makes truly grasping and defining the concept in its entirety impossible

[delicate temple]

Widow second stage makes me wanna end it

[sharp tundra]

You aint ready for her👀👀

[hexed sonnet]

finally got all fleas

[sharp tundra]

Now beat the minigames

[hexed sonnet]

when do the fleagames start i need the pale oil

[sharp tundra]

Act 3

[hexed sonnet]

fleamaster said give us some time to prepare

[normal bramble]

Go use any bell way

Then go back

[hexed sonnet]

im in act 3

[sharp tundra]

Bellhart wish wall

[hexed sonnet]

huh ok

[normal bramble]

The quest will also be there at bell hart to start the games

[subtle skiff]

Pushing that argument to the point of rejecting any and all attempts at defining consciousness goes a bit far tho, because thats just not how science or language works

[normal bramble]

If you do so

But I think you can just head to it without the quest and it starts anyways

[sharp tundra]

Anyways
May your seas be sorrow tomorrow

[steep jolt]

i got it yay

[fiery burrow]

lfg

[mental bear]

me being insane: "surely theres smth to this wall being climable right"

[steep jolt]

you would be mistaken, you see, they would instead put a secret room with the map of whispering vaults in a even more hidden one

i dont have steam internet but i guess i have discord internet

ughh ill check later ig

[delicate temple]

Why can widow attack immediately after spawning balls in second stage

[past dirge]

Got through the budget path of pain

[delicate temple]

Like that’s ridiculous, because I forget to jump to dodge her swipes

[elfin pumice]

Because she wants to

[mental bear]

thats where I learned from it when I was mindlessly jus doin nothing but climbing walls 😭
plus the way that flea is located I thought this would be the way lol

[mental bear]

fcking rage

[hexed sonnet]

who invited kratt to the flea games

[past dirge]

After thoroughly trying the beast crest I can confirm

This is kinda ass early game

[hexed sonnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/impostor-bro-thinks-hes-on-the-team-who-invited-my-man-blud-uC2GioVe4nyjE47wMJ

[mental bear]

basically playing life steal mode lol

[past dirge]

It’s a crest that encourages taking damage in a game where you die in 3 hits early game

[broken seal]

yeah Beast is best mid-late game when you have better upgrades and are more comfortable with the game

[past dirge]

Exactly

[hexed sonnet]

which of the flea games is easiest

[past dirge]

But idk why they give you this thing as pretty much your first crest besides Hunter

[broken seal]

most people find Reaper first tbf

[past dirge]

They do?

[broken seal]

and often Wanderer

[young fjord]

Dude I got this bug where I got the moss grotto shaman cutscene in act 2 and also I don't have any mods

Like again the one you get at the start of the game

[hexed sonnet]

for me reaper first beast next wanderer arch shaman and at last witch

[past dirge]

“I found a bug”
Yeah it’s hollow knight there’s a lot of those

The main character is one

[broken seal]

yea game doesn't really encourage you to go into hunter's march

[mental bear]

the game has alot of bugs

literally

[hexed sonnet]

do i need to beat the high score of all the flea games to get fucking pale oil???

[past dirge]

That was one of the first sections I found in my first play though

[broken seal]

What cutscene

[meager jolt]

Flea Bounce

[past dirge]

They’re not hard, just use Hunter, reaper, or wanderer

[broken seal]

most people can find it early but don't usually explore it fully

[young fjord]

The one where hornet loses consiousness and the shaman wakes her up

[meager jolt]

Yeah....

[slender juniper]

Am I the only one here who can't pronounce the American "error"

[broken seal]

oh weird

[slender juniper]

Like why am I supposed to choke

[broken seal]

huh? 😭

[hexed sonnet]

im going to spam reaper

[slender juniper]

No.

You won't

[young fjord]

When are they adding humans to the HK franchise imagine just Ari gibson as an silksong boss would be so cool

[broken seal]

If he wants to he can

[slender juniper]

Okay how do you pronounce error

[meager jolt]

Reaper is pretty good for bounce, Wanderer better tho

[delicate temple]

Well I beat widow

[broken seal]

say air, then say er or rer

[hexed sonnet]

mosquito distracting me 😭

[graceful cairn]

????????

[slender juniper]

I deleted it from the game reaper doesn't exist

[broken seal]

like erm without the m

[young fjord]

Bilewater top 5 areas in silksong

[subtle rain]

Error

[graceful cairn]

this isnt french you dont need to choke to speak

[slender juniper]

Wait choking Is britis

[hexed sonnet]

you're british?

[graceful cairn]

stinky british english

[slender juniper]

How fucking dare you

[hexed sonnet]

so you ARE

[slender juniper]

No I'm not

[hexed sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-walk-away-weirdo-touch-gif-26494423

[slender juniper]

My throat hurts

[hexed sonnet]

how do i brutally execute kratt in front of all of pharloom

[broken seal]

💀

[slender juniper]

Okay but can you say strč prst skrz krk

Cuz I can

[past dirge]

He’s the act 4 final boss

[normal bramble]

Unfortunately that’s gonna be dlc content

[past dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kirby-linux-windows-breaking-arch-gif-22738083

[normal bramble]

He’s the Silksong equivalent of AbsRad

[past dirge]

Patches if he was creepy and nobody liked him

[hexed sonnet]

why is flea dodge 65 bruh

[past dirge]

What crest are you using

[meager jolt]

Perhaps not execute, but you can beat the shit out of him after you hit him when he peeks (until you leave the room)

[hexed sonnet]

reaper

[past dirge]

Just get good then

[broken seal]

which language

[slender juniper]

Slovak/czech

[past dirge]

Most understandable Central European language

[slender juniper]

[hexed sonnet]

where do you live?

[slender juniper]

IM CRINE

[hexed sonnet]

lmao

[slender juniper]

The big B

[hexed sonnet]

i thought you were british but you're just communist

[slender juniper]

Huh

[past dirge]

British people 💔💔💔

[graceful cairn]

real

[slender juniper]

Y'all Europhobic

[hexed sonnet]

yeah let me not dislike the colonisers of my country

[past dirge]

Just the parts where it’s fun to make fun of

(All of it)

[timid valve]

Yeah. We're good guys, don't phobe against us

[past dirge]

I went to a pub in Amsterdam once and one of the guys in there just set their baby down to crawl around the floor 😭😭

[hexed sonnet]

greymoor is just the UK on a chewsday

[rare citrus]

Hi

[muted geode]

You cant kill him but you can bounce him around

I think

[wise gyro]

Think bout it if you look at hornets family tree lace is hornets aunt

[past dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-hunter-moon-london-torch-gif-26651611

I love bloodborne

[graceful cairn]

I'm american of course I hate the british

[hexed sonnet]

the only thing the UK has going for it is the music lets be fr now

[flint oasis]

groal is genuinely the worst boss in both the hk games

[halcyon socket]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-dark-light-monster-nope-gif-5361155

[slender juniper]

No that belongs to markoth

[flint oasis]

markot is hard but its a lil fun id genuinely take gruz mother over groal in terms of enjoyability

[past dirge]

Clearly Zote is the greatest boss in both games

[rough zealot]

what if the significance of the first sinner is that hornet is the last sinner? because hornet deafeats gms and basically the entire religion?

[flint oasis]

i lowkey struggled more on zote than base radiance 🥹

[lucid kindle]

pov you 100% verdania so u lowk sigma

[past dirge]

Idk I just beat her up because I thought it would be a difficult boss

[lucid kindle]

use poison boomerang and threefold pin

[flint oasis]

i will thank you for the advice

[lucid kindle]

i did that and its lowk just spam and if you dont have all upgrades, maybe a few hits

[hexed sonnet]

probably

[flint oasis]

im gonna try that and if i fail ill just do the cheese im not going through this irritation again

[lucid kindle]

or just lowk be a scaredy cat and use maggotwater architec crest strat

[lucid kindle]

trust me bro

[lucid kindle]

how many damage upgrades on tools

[past dirge]

Just don’t get hit

[lucid kindle]

it doesnt matter

[flint oasis]

im missing one on both

[lucid kindle]

i did it w 1 health

[lucid kindle]

i did it like that too

so basically after you run out, get swallowed and hit him

from the inside and thats it

thats how i did it

i had max on capacity tho

[flint oasis]

i could use the architcet crest for the tool regen midfight

[lucid kindle]

yes

[flint oasis]

ill be fineee i hope

[lucid kindle]

do u have pimpillo

[flint oasis]

i do yeah but its only 7 of them

[lucid kindle]

thats good

pimpillo is op

dont do the stagger strat tho

[flint oasis]

ill just use it plus the threefold pins since im more experienced with them

[delicate holly]

Im tired of getting stuff only for it to say this can be displayed at a home

[lucid kindle]

you can do it like first use all your boomerangs, then use pins + pimpillo combined

i didnt do that, but maybe it could work

[flint oasis]

dw they will be usefull once you finish all the bellhart wishes

[flint oasis]

ill try that

[lucid kindle]

aight gl

[delicate holly]

I have I just never use my home should I???

[flint oasis]

yeah

[delicate holly]

Oh I thought it was just decorative

[lucid kindle]

guys are mementos good for anything else ?

[flint oasis]

it is but its useful cuz it shows you all the items you have collected, the materieum i mean

[lucid kindle]

so???

[outer drum]

Hey guys, do you know if Hollow Knight Silksong accepts dual graphics cards?

[past dirge]

Idk

Probably

[lucid kindle]

idk

ig

[graceful cairn]

mementos do absolutely nothing

[radiant yacht]

first sinner is the best fight of my life oml

[lucid kindle]

shit

[lucid kindle]

everyone agrees

right?

rip iron man

[past dirge]

First sinner was a really good fight imo but it felt a bit easy

[lucid kindle]

EASY?

[vale whale]

ship wars in this fandom are very funny to me

[radiant yacht]

it was easier than i expected tbh

but god DAYUM WAS IT FUN

[lucid kindle]

I THREW MY CONTROLLER WHEN I REALIZED THERE EAS A SECOND PHASE

[flint oasis]

i think my fav fight in hollow knight silksong so far was the last judge, i still havent beaten first sinner but it does seem really fun

[past dirge]

I mean every single attack was practically given to you

[graceful cairn]

TRUE

[radiant yacht]

i knew what i was getting into as i had seen it beforehand

[lucid kindle]

f u mean 😭

[graceful cairn]

ive never once died on that fight actually

[flint oasis]

i can dodge the attacks pretty well its just that its too fast for me to hit

[past dirge]

You just had to not be stupid enough to go in front of where the attacks were gonna be

[lucid kindle]

i wasnt

i was exploring

[vale whale]

who wants to bet what tonight's stupid obvious answered argument will be

[radiant yacht]

i envy you

[lucid kindle]

ik, but phase 2

[vale whale]

last night we had " did the infection kill people " with the ultimate ragebaiter

[past dirge]

I barely even remember the fight but I remember it being relatively fun

[vale whale]

what will ensue tonight

[past dirge]

Hmm

[lucid kindle]

lowk we need to fight that one weaver from hk in sk

[past dirge]

I forgot duskbloods existed

[flint oasis]

the big cherry please add keybinds for the throwables i dont want to hold down or up pleaseplease

[vale whale]

why do you want to finish the job

she watched you kidnap like 4 babies with a huge sword

let her suffer

[lucid kindle]

???

[vale whale]

lonely weaver

[lucid kindle]

what you mean

[vale whale]

she appears after you take weaversonf

[lucid kindle]

thats not 4 baby

[vale whale]

her only friends are in the charm

[past dirge]

LL is personal favorite fight in silksong

[vale whale]

i dont remember how manu there are but there are a ton of babjes in weaversong

you break into her home with a sword and enslave her friends

[lucid kindle]

the charm lit meant nothing to her looo

[flint oasis]

guys what do yall think is the worst enemy pre act 3

[lucid kindle]

she couldnt use it

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

how do you not read item descriptions in a game with fromsoft storytelling

[lucid kindle]

first gauntlet

[normal bramble]

Spit squids

[frank plover]

i am playing silksong right now

[vale whale]

``Silken charm containing a song of farewell, left by the Weavers who departed Hallownest for their old home.

Summons weaverlings to give the lonely bearer some companionship and protection.``

[normal bramble]

Spit squids are the most evil thing in silksong as a whole

With the only mercy they provide being that they only exist in one of the most ignorable areas ever

[vale whale]

don't try to talk about things you haven't even done the most basic bit of research on

[lucid kindle]

yes, and the charm was just up there

theres no proof of it using or not using it

[vale whale]

brooo

" the lonely bearer " " left by the weavers who departed hallownest "

it's OBVIOUSLY her charm

• other bugs can use charms, sly and ogrim give you theirs

[flint oasis]

i hate clawmaiden with all my might im genuinely so thankful there is a way to perma stop them from spawning

[brave geyser]

what's up

[vale whale]

i have never dome high halls with clawmaidens alive

[lucid kindle]

"by the WEAVERS" so its not HER charm its THEIR

[vale whale]

bro

[past dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1470542514049253580/1485661592917115111/21523274-CE11-4204-8D18-6E8BEEA57EA2.gif

[vale whale]

if i make a gift for my sister and give it to her and then leave is it my item or my sister's item

[flint oasis]

im on my first playthrough so i didnt know that you can stop them

[lucid kindle]

thats 1 person btw

[vale whale]

yeah 1 weaver😭😭

[lucid kindle]

just say proof of jt using it or not

[vale whale]

lonely weaver is the only weaver left it's her charm dawg who else is going to be lonely in deepnest

[lucid kindle]

cuz theres none

[vale whale]

it's called basic inference dawgalawg

[lucid kindle]

its not guaranteed

[brave geyser]

What's going on

[vale whale]

the charm is in her home, was made by her family and is said to make companions for a lonely person

[past dirge]

Idk

[vale whale]

she literally watches you take it and fucking BOLTS

[past dirge]

I ignored most of the lore

[brave geyser]

onion istg if this demanman again

[past dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/plug-walk-plug-walk-david-byrne-once-in-a-lifetime-gif-18116313

[vale whale]

no it's someone who thinks weaversong didnt belong to the lonely weaver in deepnest

[vale whale]

also i can't really take your points seriously after you said this

[lucid kindle]

it didnt

[brave geyser]

wait hold on i remembered ion know lore can you tell me

[vale whale]

" it meant nothing to her " in her home with an ability which perfectly assists her situation made by her family

[lucid kindle]

she wasnt in the weave nest

[vale whale]

" she couldnt use it " pretty sure bugs can use charms

[lucid kindle]

or he

[vale whale]

bro😭😭😭 SHE WATCHES YOU TAKE IT

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[past dirge]

What’s a weaversong

[brave geyser]

Ogrim literally having aura like pure unfettered ass

[vale whale]

i'm gonna do an ornstein and smough coop run with my friend soon

[vale whale]

and sly uses nmg

[past dirge]

Nice

[teal ridge]

They why do like all bugs in the game dont use them

[brave geyser]

if bugs can't use charms why would they sell them just to you

[lucid kindle]

this guy is so clueless

[brave geyser]

You aren't special don't think too high of yourself

[lucid kindle]

if it was left by the weavers ehy would a weaver use it

[brave geyser]

Joni's blessing

[vale whale]

because theyre not common rocks😭

[lucid kindle]

the weaver was just a stalker

[vale whale]

i dont get this sorry if im being rude

[lucid kindle]

LOO

[vale whale]

she was a lonely child whose friends you abducted

[teal ridge]

Come on the geo magnet one is like 200 geo. Hallownest cant be that poor

[brave geyser]

salubra for example why would she suddenly start selling charms exclusively to you

[vale whale]

what's wrong with me saying i don't mean to be rude when telling someone i dont understand what theyre saying

[lucid kindle]

they werent friends omg

[vale whale]

Silken charm containing a song of farewell, left by the Weavers who departed Hallownest for their old home.

Summons weaverlings to give the lonely bearer some companionship and protection.

[brave geyser]

the highest geo count dropped by an enemy is like what 50? Lol

[lucid kindle]

where does it mention being friends

[vale whale]

geo is actually a decently rare resource for most bugs in that area i think

[brave geyser]

"silken charm of Fuckin' farewell"

[vale whale]

the husks dont drop alot of geo + there isnt alot of demand for charms

[brave geyser]

Lemm easily being the richest historian oat

[vale whale]

also sly's prices increase as you go on

meaning he probably bumps his prices up after he realises he has a real buyer with some good money

[compact hemlock]

yk what, I'm stopping my hunter only run to do a witch's only run

[teal ridge]

Even animal bugs got geo. Like the tiny walking things at the start of ths game that i forgot their name.

[vale whale]

companionship
the enjoyment of spending time with another person or pet, characterized by fellowship, friendship, and a sense of shared presence

[teal ridge]

Why would those and tiny vengeflies carry geo?

[vale whale]

geo is pieces of shell + they drop barely any

[broken seal]

shiny

[teal ridge]

So bugs in hallownest use others shells as currency?

[vale whale]

also yeah they probably nibble on and steal from corpses

[lucid kindle]

why would the weaver leave the charm on high ground and on dead bodies

[vale whale]

fossilised ones yeah

[brave geyser]

iam scared of lemm now

[vale whale]

which alos means the bugs which drop it are probably old as FUUUUCK or they nibble on corpses

[teal ridge]

If i remember correctly salubra said a charm materializes with strong emotions near death of a bug or something like that. So maybe that weavers thing materialized into the charm

[broken seal]

Btw geo isn't just the shells of bugs

[lucid kindle]

lowk i used my controller so i will dig up my grandmothers grave and place it on it

[vale whale]

yeah they were sad they had to leave her which created the charm

[lucid kindle]

like just admit youre the wrong here, nothing mentions anyone using the charm

[broken seal]

it's fossilized, so unless the bugs are already partially fossilized then the shell shards are in their possession and not a part of their corpses

[vale whale]

and their sadness for her also included how lonely and potentially endangered she was gonna be hence why the charm does those things

[lucid kindle]

nah, that charm was left there by the weavers

[vale whale]

it's called basic inference dawgalawg

[teal ridge]

So?

[lucid kindle]

so youre wrong too

[teal ridge]

I dont know the whole point dude

What am i wrong about

[lucid kindle]

about the charm being from the dead bodies

[brave geyser]

Is joni just a joke to you

[vale whale]

• Description states the charm is a gift from her family
• It brings companionship and protection
• It is found in her home
• She is there when you take it

[lucid kindle]

wym her home?

how do you know its her home

[teal ridge]

Salubra said that. Cant just an alive weaver took the weaversong charm off the dead body and put it there?

[brave geyser]

Yep nope onion don't engage with the ragebait

[lucid kindle]

she wasnt there when u entered

[brave geyser]

it's literally the same as yesterday

[vale whale]

did she just steal something made by her kin which happens to perfectly help her situation

[lucid kindle]

its true that it can form, but weaversong wasnt from a dead body

lowk im argumenting w 2 people and they still think im wrong

now tell me, why would she leave the charm on the dead bodies

[timid valve]

I think that charms still can be crafted with enough mastery

[lucid kindle]

on the high ground

or he

[tight viper]

What bug died to make the Wayward Compass

[teal ridge]

I think use of addittions by other bugs are more present in silksong. Like those flying guys use cogflies. There are people in memorius use phasmium phials. The alchemist use the lifeblood phial. Fleas drink the fleabrew. And probably more

[lucid kindle]

uganda knuckles

[vale whale]

cornifer's dad or something

[timid valve]

Cornifer's grandma

[brave geyser]

Actually yea no hold on

how would grimmchild be made as a charm when grimm is alive and well

[lucid kindle]

LOO HE ISNT REPLYING, just admit it bro

[vale whale]

he's gonna die anyways

[lucid kindle]

youre obviously on the wrong

[lucid kindle]

charms are not always from dead bodies gng

[teal ridge]

What wrong about beşng in the wrong side? Were disscussing things here

[vale whale]

dawgalawg AROUND them

[distant mesa]

Is grimmchild a charm or just the little guy made to be carried?

[brave geyser]

Which means the weavers did infact leave weaversong in the weavenest to accompany the lonely weaver therefore you are wrong

[vale whale]

^ genuinely just give up dude you dont have to win every argument

[lucid kindle]

still

[vale whale]

i cant keep regurgitating the same point which blatantly disproves yours and dumbing it down for you

[brave geyser]

charm

[vale whale]

it's genuinely tiresome

[teal ridge]

What if things we thought as charms arent really charms. I mean what about shape of unn? Did the unn died to make that charm?

[timid valve]

No... Instead, let's talk about how it can be upgraded. Each upgrade = a death?
Or each upgrade costs 25% of Grimm's soul?

[distant mesa]

Yes
Thats the thing
All besides that makes sense

[vale whale]

personally i think emotions can form them

salubra states there are a few exceptions to the death rule

[distant mesa]

Unn is a higher being

[brave geyser]

grimm confusing

[lucid kindle]

bro

[teal ridge]

Isnt grimm a higher being too? Hes the nşghtmare king

[distant mesa]

So is the nightmare heart
And the white lady

[brave geyser]

Oh yea unn literally spits herself at you lol

[lucid kindle]

they could have left it there for anyone

[distant mesa]

The nightmare heart is atleast

[lucid kindle]

the weaver was not "home" when we got there

[vale whale]

what about the only lucid weaver left in deepnest😭😭

[brave geyser]

and is there anyone else other than the lonely weaver

[timid valve]

Sharp Shadow is... What?

[brave geyser]

which as onion just said is alive well and non infected

[lucid kindle]

brother

[brave geyser]

sibling

[lucid kindle]

there are plenty travelers

[teal ridge]

A vessel that was at the edge of escaping the abbys before the hollow knight and the knight. But he sneezed and fell down. Then became the charm

[lucid kindle]

in hk

[brave geyser]

None in deepnest

the only other travellers are like what

Brumm cornifer and some guy i forgot?

[timid valve]

Cloth

[brave geyser]

Oh right cloth is in deepnest

[teal ridge]

Zote was in deepnest too

[brave geyser]

i mean he was near getting fucked over so he doesn't count

[worthy stream]

Why is there an arcane egg about shade and soul in silksong

[brave geyser]

600 rosaries

[vale whale]

a song of farewell for... random travellers?

[lucid kindle]

cornifer

[teal ridge]

What is arache egg about?

[brave geyser]

LMAO

[brittle totem]

Im back to slander more crests, hopefully ppl won't start crying abt it like last time

[brave geyser]

I just realized that

[lucid kindle]

idc if weaver used it or no it wasnt HER charm

[lusty grove]

howdy, what's the topic today?

[vale whale]

yeah cornifer needs a charm made by an ancient tribe of bugs from a distant land ruled by a fallen pale being to keep him company

[brave geyser]

Artifact for lore and money

[teal ridge]

Lore of charms from hollow knight

[lusty grove]

...what's the topic?

[lucid kindle]

never said that, i said it was left there for travelers

[vale whale]

someone thinks thats weaversong was not lonely weaver's charm and thinks it was made for travellers comjng through deepnest

[worthy stream]

Beast crest is Superior and its okay to have different opinions. Just know you're wrong.

[lucid kindle]

and cornifer is a traveler

[brave geyser]

Cornifer is literally the only actual traveller there 😭

[lusty grove]

oh, I see
some of them are made from dead bugs' wishes, others are just stuff

[brave geyser]

Specifically weaversong

[teal ridge]

I wonder if snail shamans can create charms with magic

[worthy stream]

Yeah duh

[lusty grove]

uh...

[brave geyser]

which according to Luce was made by the weavers before they left for random ass travellers and not the one sane lonely weaver

[lucid kindle]

watch a lore vid and tell me if it was stated that the charm was for the weaver or no

[lusty grove]

okay, look

[brittle totem]

we should create a large amount of charms by eliminating the entire underworks

[lusty grove]

and also this

[compact hemlock]

"noo! noo! noo!"

[vale whale]

bro ive been sauing the same shit foe so long it's so obvious this guy is genuinely just desperate to be right

[brittle totem]

Song? like... SILKSONG???

[brave geyser]

Leave this server

[teal ridge]

They are depressed. They dont feel emotions that can create charms

[vale whale]

how do you feel about the ending of csm John Chainsaw Man

[lucid kindle]

i recommend lore vid for onion and his stupid E dog who died to an ant

[vale whale]

^

[lusty grove]

it seems like the charm was made by the Weavers that STAYED as a gift to the Weavers that left, and it gave them protection while they travelled through the Wastes

[vale whale]

ad hominem AND youre wrong💔💔

[brave geyser]

Actually what proves Your points hmm

Iam waiting

[vale whale]

bro this guy's just like proto demanman

[brave geyser]

Your possibilities require more maybes and ifs

literally what backs them up at all

[vale whale]

determined as fuck to not be wrongso they toss out bullshit hypotheticals and ignore basic inferenxe

[compact hemlock]

yijk reference

[lucid kindle]

that it was never said who the charm was left for

[vale whale]

yijik?

[lucid kindle]

it said bearer

[compact hemlock]

yiik

[lucid kindle]

not someone or something

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[brave geyser]

So weavers actually care about the other bugs and not their own kin? Crazy shit
Also before you say "she wasn't home so it isn't her home" literally what does nailsmith do

[brittle totem]

I mean the ending is alright, tbh I kinda either wanted a final chapter that fills the plot holes and ties loose ends that ultimately ended with a double page spread of a dead denji,

OR

The ending that we actually got but with aki and kobeni

[lusty grove]

is it weird that this is the only charm ever made by Weavers? yes
is it also weird that Hornet can't wear charms and that they're not even mentioned in Silksong? absolutely
do I care? ...slightly
does it disprove my theory? not really

[lucid kindle]

she can wear

[vale whale]

do you not think the charm found in WEAVER'S DEN said to BE FROM THE WEAVERS WHO LEFT HALLOWNEST as a FAREWELL belongs to the ONLY LUCID WEAVER LEFT IN HALLOWNEST

[lusty grove]

she can't wear charms, only "tools", which are just stuff

[lucid kindle]

how can the blue tools give her powers

[vale whale]

WHO ALSO WATCHES YOU AFTER YOU TAKE IT

[lusty grove]

strong stuff

[untold dune]

if hornet got hold of weaversong itd just be a cool rock

[lusty grove]

not charms

[timid valve]

Charms are stuff. I hope they are logically valid
(Canonically)

[vale whale]

she uses the blues and they augment her abilities with hiw she uses them

[lusty grove]

charms are a specific kind of stuff, tools are just random stuff Hornet uses to fight

[teal ridge]

Guys. Can the egg of flealia be a charm?

[lusty grove]

some tools may possibly be charms, but charms aren't tools

I mean

charms ARE tools

[timid valve]

Charms are specific, tools are random

[lusty grove]

but not all tools are charms

[lucid kindle]

idc, ill always know im in the right, i have watched many hk lore vids and its never stated

[teal ridge]

Okay

[vale whale]

" i'm right okay i watched videos so im right "

how do you play a game with fromsoft storytelling and need basic things to be spelled out for you multiple times

[lusty grove]

it's never stated cuz no one cares enough about it

[brave geyser]

"it never stated so it's never right"
Ok i guess radiance didn't really kill anyone since it never stated that

[vale whale]

and STILL not believe them

[lucid kindle]

btw its not her home its weavers den and there is only one, so its the home of many weavers

[slender juniper]

Hollow knight Is trash anyways

[lucid kindle]

huge proof youre not prs

[untold dune]

yeah they all got revived after the infection died duh

[vale whale]

bro the weavers are DEAD

THEYRE DEAD OR LEFT YOU SEE THEIR CORPSES

[brave geyser]

💔
is my home really not my home because it's my family's home

[slender juniper]

Hollow knight is extremely mid

[vale whale]

Silken charm containing a song of farewell, left by the Weavers who departed Hallownest for their old home.

Summons weaverlings to give the lonely bearer some companionship and protection.

[lusty grove]

Unnamed Weaver is the only Weaver left, the Weaver's Den is her den now

[vale whale]

THE WEAVERS WENT BACK TO PHARLOOM SON😭😭😭😭😭

[lusty grove]

and so is everything inside it

[lusty grove]

didn't they just die?

[vale whale]

SHE INHERITED THAT HOUSE

[brave geyser]

"OLD HOME" like COME ON

[untold dune]

making my text bold makes it more correct

[vale whale]

they went to their old home and then died

[vale whale]

no it's for emphasis

[lusty grove]

what about the countless Weaver corpses?

[brave geyser]

no it's because they can't read that the text needs to be bigger

[vale whale]

yeah i think those guys just died tbf

like i said some died some left

[lusty grove]

I thought they went to Hallownest and died there

[earnest drift]

can confirm

[lusty grove]

cuz like, why would they go back?

and if they did, where are they?

[untold dune]

ts some bs thanks for ruining the bit, reasonable moderation >:(

[vale whale]

we should just play cory in the house for nintendo ds

[brave geyser]

Radiance idk

[brave geyser]

man :(

[earnest drift]

they went back and died of course

[lusty grove]

and where are their corpses?

[vale whale]

i was guessing based on the phrase " old home " hallownest was the new home and pharloom the old one

[untold dune]

yeah i thought so too

[lusty grove]

and why is it never mentioned in Silksong that some Weavers came back after a while?

[vale whale]

some weavees probably just died in the den tho for some reason

[earnest drift]

some of the corpses that hornet binds would be from those who stayed, and some would be from those who left and returned

[vale whale]

they all ended up dead anyways

[slender juniper]

#stfu

[lusty grove]

where is that phrase said again? I forgor

[earnest drift]

why would it be important and who would say such a thing

[untold dune]

yeah this has been bothering me fr

[vale whale]

Silken charm containing a song of farewell, left by the Weavers who departed Hallownest for their old home.

Summons weaverlings to give the lonely bearer some companionship and protection.

[untold dune]

who is the fuck up and why should i shut them

[vale whale]

ir also explicitly says they departed hallownest

so idk where they could go if not pharloom

[lusty grove]

cuz they're the WEAVERS
they're BELIEVED TO BE GODS
if a Weaver came back to Pharloom, EVERYONE would mention it

[vale whale]

thats where the firstgens were born

[earnest drift]

it was probably a long time ago

[untold dune]

but there was def some lore in hollow knight saying they returned to their old home right?

[lusty grove]

oh
...yeah that's weird

[vale whale]

i honestly think they just forgot in silksonf

[lusty grove]

so they did go back to Pharloom

or they died in the way

[vale whale]

it doesnt matter they all got killed anyways

[untold dune]

"i must return to my home pharloom"
the weavers then died on the way back to pharloom

[brave geyser]

skill issues imo

[vale whale]

gms was VICIOUS she went for like a one eighth weaver or something

[earnest drift]

I don’t really see the issue

[timid valve]

Let's all just agree that Weaversong is OP if combined with Grubsong.
who cares about lore

[vale whale]

and sprintmastwr

[lusty grove]

well, they did forget the protection charm

[brave geyser]

true who cares about lore

[vale whale]

worth more then unb. strength

[earnest drift]

they went back to Pharloom and died there
so what

[brave geyser]

Provides companion ship for the lonely bearer

[vale whale]

three friends and three bodyguards

[lusty grove]

if that were the case, there would be at least one thing in Silksong talking about it

[vale whale]

what a charm

[vale whale]

yeah i think they just forgot, no reason to retcon it or anythint

its a pretty minute detail too since they just died anyways

[lusty grove]

that is true

[hardy tangle]

minute

stupid word thinks it can just change how you pronounce it cus of the context

[vale whale]

but yeah very nice convo

[lusty grove]

ok so some Weavers stayed and some Weavers went to Hallownest and died there and some Weavers went back to Pharloom and either died in the way due to no Weaversong or died in Pharloom and one (or more) Weavers survived in Hallownest and one Weaver survived in Pharloom

[vale whale]

my favourite moments here are when people trash lost lace and when everyone unites to make a ragebaiter fall

[earnest drift]

why do we need that
we already have Hallownest talking about it, it doesn’t need another mention

this isn’t a plot hole or a retcon, it’s just a small detail that now has context

[lusty grove]

it makes worldbuilding sense for there to be a mention to the BEINGS BELIEVED TO BE GODS coming back to Pharloom in the game that happens in Pharloom

[earnest drift]

hey maybe the weavers returned while the weavers who stayed were still alive

and then they all died out together

then no one would notice a thing

[hardy tangle]

does hornet have kids

[earnest drift]

yes

[hardy tangle]

so shes neglectful

[earnest drift]

no

[lusty grove]

"hey"
"woah welcome back, I thought you were gonna stay there"
"nah, the Disease forced us to come back"
"the what"

[hardy tangle]

where are they

[void moat]

not that we know of

[hardy tangle]

why would she have a mate if shes not gonna have kids

[void moat]

probably

[earnest drift]

her needle is sentient did you play the game

[lusty grove]

probably not

[hardy tangle]

unless shes gay

[earnest drift]

her needle is her child urgh

[void moat]

maybe

[hardy tangle]

ew imagine birthing that

[earnest drift]

it’s a hybrid of spider and wasp

[lusty grove]

she's a Weaver, Weavers have trouble having children

[earnest drift]

it was blunt and small as a child

[vale whale]

eva was made in a tube

[hardy tangle]

there aare 8th weavers 💔

[lusty grove]

okay, and...?

[void moat]

except we know of like 4 weaver descendants so this is barely a restriction

[split quest]

Fleatopia has such a good theme

[vale whale]

imagine hornet forging her needle in the hive tony stark style

[void moat]

it's repurposed from red coral gorge

[lusty grove]

one weaver had ONE great grandchild, ok cool

[hardy tangle]

hornet is strong asf she has an easier time than a full weaver and probably a normal half weaver

[lusty grove]

yeah, 4 Weaver descendants to the thousands of Weavers that existed

[void moat]

her wyrm genes make her far stronger

[delicate temple]

Is there a way to force silver bells to spawn?

[hardy tangle]

that pale king gene gotta do something

[void moat]

where did you get this metric ✌️

[split quest]

The ost? That's really interesting

[lusty grove]

being half Wyrm might make it worse too

[delicate temple]

Also is pollip pouch good

[lusty grove]

ok, hundreds, who cares

[hardy tangle]

pale king FUCKED bro 😭

[untold dune]

not rly

[lusty grove]

there are a lot of Weavers

[earnest drift]

I don’t like pale king

[lusty grove]

yeah but he never gave birth

[delicate temple]

Is it better than druids

[void moat]

thats what you think

[earnest drift]

source?

[graceful oyster]

Pinstress boss music was supposed to be what flea minigames is now

[untold dune]

i guess so

[lusty grove]

he's a dude

[hardy tangle]

good point but its not stated anywhere

[untold dune]

neither are rly that good

[earnest drift]

ok and

[vale whale]

Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line, frail with age.
Tracked and taken in Sandsea Waste.
Seven Choristors, nine Envoys lost to task.?

[hardy tangle]

like weavers its specified it hurts like hell

[vale whale]

Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line, mortally wounded.
Tracked and taken in the Blackbarrens.
Four Choristors, one Reed lost to task.?

[lusty grove]

male earthworms can't give birth

[earnest drift]

so why was she wandering the waste

[void moat]

why not

[vale whale]

Weaver, in quarter part, last of their line, staked to service.
Tracked and taken beneath the City of Steel.
Eight Choristors, twelve Envoys lost to task.?

[delicate temple]

Well I have no charms because all the vendors are hiding from me

[lusty grove]

?

[vale whale]

tje cradle lore tabs

[lusty grove]

ik about all that

other Weaver descendants existed, but it was a rare thing

[earnest drift]

weaver in half part, imbued with luminous blood
tracked and taken in the kingdom of the white Wyrm
escaped
amount lost to task yet to be determined

[crisp pier]

TROBIOO

[brave geyser]

Has anyone ever gotten cornered by the nail art specifically where i died

[lusty grove]

three Clappers, two point three thousand Grand Reeds lost to task

[earnest drift]

what plot holes does silksong have

[lusty grove]

Pale King: "This is Hallownest, the last and only civilization, whose name will be spoken with reverence and regret throughout the entire universe"
GMS: "So yeah this Wyrm has a kingdom over there"

[split quest]

Also cut through is such a tough ost to be used for the worst bosses in the game

[frosty light]

that line is just built different fr

[hardy tangle]

weaver in 64th part, last of their line, chilling in a cave
tracked and taken in some random cave
nobody lost to task

[void moat]

"Full Chamber to the kingdom of the White Wyrm. Claim the Weaver, in half part. Last of their line. Sensed strong with Silk.

Resistance anticipated. Quell with rune cage."

this is the commandment given to envoys in regards to capturing hornet

[earnest drift]

why did pale king even say his kingdom was the only one to ever exist how tf was anyone meant to believe that

[void moat]

it was supposed to be eternal so it was probably the last kingdom thatd be still standing until the end of time

[frosty light]

bit better for exploration than boss fights

[lusty grove]

he said it was the last
I think he wanted Hallownest to be the last kindgom ever made, and become the greatest one as the other kingdoms died out

[earnest drift]

pale king seems kind of stupid

then again the weavers went on and on about Pharloom eternal as well

[frosty light]

i mean he did KINDA give birth himself like the thing his new body came out of with the kings brand was an egg wasnt it

[vale whale]

moorwing is peak

[void moat]

i mean he did well for awhile, what happened to destroy the kingdom wasnt really in his control

[lusty grove]

Moorwing uses Strive, you lemon

[earnest drift]

and Pharloom would’ve been eternal if it weren’t for whiteward

[frosty light]

hes like like piccolo but white

[vale whale]

oh mb theyre real similae tho

[lusty grove]

Whiteward was made to keep Pharloom eternal

[earnest drift]

unless he just imprisoned the hollow knight outside of Hallownest after sealing the radiance inside them

[frosty light]

and also a worm and a bug and a dragon and not a slug but these are small differences

[lusty grove]

that would be an impossibly hard task

"yeah let's just move this vessel while it contains the strongest thing ever"

[vale whale]

wasnt thk most definitely hostile

[earnest drift]

why
just get some bugs who don’t need pale king for sentience to bring the hollow knight and materials for a new cage out into the desert

[vale whale]

they put it to sleep with the chains

[void moat]

wdym

[lusty grove]

with the Radiance inside it? yeah

without it: nah, Pure Vessel was pure

[earnest drift]

if pale king saw that then he would know the hollow knight was infected

[hardy tangle]

yeah lets roll the black egg with thk still in it

[vale whale]

yeah rhe sleepy rune chains had to be put on immediately im sure

[lusty grove]

cuz you're talking about the thing that contains the Radiance

[hardy tangle]

to a far kingdom

[vale whale]

or thkdiance would just pop out and kill EVERYONE

[earnest drift]

subdue thk with bindings before delivering them out into the waste

[hardy tangle]

worst ship oat?

[vale whale]

no thats rhe fusion

[lusty grove]

I think the Black Egg couldn't just be built around the Hollow Knight

[vale whale]

i remember someone here used to ship hollowradiance😭

[hardy tangle]

you cant fuse names and think its not a ship 💔

[vale whale]

the bimdings were attached to the groundto anchor thk in and sleep them

[earnest drift]

the black egg wouldn’t even be needed
they just need to be far from Hallownest

[lusty grove]

they already put the Hollow Knight as far up as they could

[void moat]

most toxic relationship ever conceived ✌️

[lusty grove]

then they could just, you know, come back

[earnest drift]

then bring materials for a non-black-egg prison

[vale whale]

if they just wrapped thk in the chains and rolled them out of the kingdom thk would break out and run

[void moat]

radiance infected bugs through their dreams i dont think there's really much of a range cap on that

[hardy tangle]

we dont have that brochacho

[lusty grove]

a non-Void prison would instantly be destroyed

[frosty light]

"I was born within this space. To leave would be my death, an uninspired end, though one I've sometimes wished would come.
I am unique, you see. My mothers shared the curse of their tribe, to conceive a child is a painful, near impossible task.
Hornet: I know the curse well, Eva, for I am also its victim, and spawn of one who managed to overcome its limits.
Hornet: Are you too an attempt to defy that cruel constraint?"

id assume pk being a form changing god thing probably made things easier for herrah and its probably the reason she expected their dalliance to work in the first place, but idk if hornet would inherit that

[earnest drift]

infected crossroads shows it matters with distance
radiance didn’t infect other kingdoms

[earnest drift]

see that’s the thing
if you assume the black egg is void then the story makes sense

because the pale king was the only one who knew how to work with void

[lusty grove]

Higher Beings only have power on their respective domains
Radiance can only influence Hallownest, Unn can only influence Greenpath, GMS can only influence Pharloom, ect

[frosty light]

Hornet: You have the sight, Maker. Tell me what you see in me?
Your mask... It reads clear enough, Old One. Watcher, hunter, monarch even, though you may reject that station.
A complex visage, perhaps, yet still to my sight it looks unresolved.
Hornet: If you see a transitional state, it is one I have accepted. My mask has remained defined through lifetimes uncounted.
Aye. Rigid I'm sure, but your kind rarely develop evenly, and the lifetime of bugs are poor measure for one like you.
Could be there's more growth awaiting you yet...

hmm....

[hardy tangle]

eva is thk but made by a dumb weaver

[lusty grove]

so, the Black Egg must be Void

[earnest drift]

but I had some pest telling me the black egg wasn’t void and I showed them that meant the pale king had no reason to seal thk outside of Hallownest

[lusty grove]

if it doesn't make sense if it isn't, then it is

[frosty light]

obviously a waever queen reference but it does sure sound pretty wyrmy of her

[void moat]

i mean yeah she can control the infection to a degree as seen in myla's dreamnail dialogue, and the extra infection in crossroads could be explained as radiance expelling a burst of infection in the general area as to not be resealed

or just more infection being made closer to the source because rad's goal in the end is still to destroy hallownest

[earnest drift]

otherwise pale king could’ve sealed the hollow knight far underground
it wouldn’t be quite as far from Hallownest but it’d be better than right in the middle of it

[vale whale]

didnt the infection just slip out of the slightly opened door

[lusty grove]

it slipped out of The Hollow Knight, and then infected everyone through their dreams

[vale whale]

yeah because the door opened a bit

[earnest drift]

pale king was able to move an entire palace into a metaphysical realm and you’re telling me he couldn’t move a black egg a couple of miles

[lusty grove]

no, the Hollow Knight opened a bit

[void moat]

thk's sealing prolonged hallownest's stasis, including bugs being infected afaik

[lusty grove]

the door is sealed shut to protect the Hollow Knight

[hardy tangle]

you cant move thk with radiance in it without the black egg otherwise she'd just leave

[lusty grove]

the door does nothing to stop the Infection

[void moat]

the black egg made of void? directly contrasting his soul powers? nah

[earnest drift]

where is this stated

[hardy tangle]

so you cant just throw the thk with the radiance in a random area far away and expect it to work

[hardy tangle]

why would we need the fuckass egg if it does jack shit

[vale whale]

the egg is clearly pure void

[hardy tangle]

why would we need dreamers

[vale whale]

void trumps all

[earnest drift]

because pale king is stupid and things he does doesn’t make sense

[lusty grove]

common sense

[hardy tangle]

pale king: oh yeah just put him in the egg for atmosphere and aura

[void moat]

pk is pretty smart

[hardy tangle]

hes really smart and youre too dumb to comprehend it

[frosty light]

the physical infection isnt contagious but its probably a matter of thinking more about the infection = more susceptible to it. resising the infection harder just makes things worse if you arent sufficiently strong willed like the mantises, and thats probably because trying to suppress it is giving rad more attention. its like the spread of ideas, but pathologized and magical. so probably being around infection = dreaming more about infection

[lusty grove]

"Only a fool would try to use Void to do stuff" - Hornet

[earnest drift]

not smart enough to put thk outside of Hallownest

[lusty grove]

it was impossible

[hardy tangle]

extremely difficult + wont even work

[void moat]

only did ts as a last resort to save his kingdom, and it wouldve worked, simply had a fatal flaw

[vale whale]

thos is only sort of related but fun fact myla gets infected because she talks to and looks at the crystals all day

[void moat]

in pk's life he was an amazing ruler

[lusty grove]

the fatal flaw is that Void doesn't work like how the Pale King thought it worked

the fatal flaw is that the Pale King is stupid

[frosty light]

you dont understand.... they sing.... and its beautiful......

[vale whale]

the crystals are really cool and overlooked imo

[void moat]

if someone isnt educated on a single subject/gets one thing wrong it's pretty stupid to call said person stupid

[vale whale]

theyre direct channels of the radiance's light which is why bugs are drawn to them

[earnest drift]

what part of it is difficult
immobilise the hollow knight and get some sentient bugs to deliver them far out in the wastes along with materials to build a new prison for them

[frosty light]

i mean im not gonna say otherwise but we dont know how pk thought void worked in the first place so

[lusty grove]

ok, you're right

[earnest drift]

and if the hollow knight can’t be sent into the desert then do it underground

[vale whale]

how is he goingto immobilise the hollow knight without anchoring them to the ground

[earnest drift]

ANYWHERE but the middle of the kingdom

[vale whale]

they'll just get tf out if he wraps them in the chains

[earnest drift]

chain them to the carriage

[earnest drift]

they don’t get out of the chains in the black egg

[vale whale]

the runes were on the anchoring chains not the ones trapping thk

[lusty grove]

maybe that's why the mantises weren't infected, they just went "nah, I'll ignore that"

[earnest drift]

then anchor the chains to a carriage

[lusty grove]

the Black Egg is as far from the middle of the kingdom as it could be

[lusty grove]

a Void carriage? that would instantly kill anyone who tries to ride it unless they're a God then they would have a few seconds of life left?

[earnest drift]

fym void carriage

[lusty grove]

if it isn't a Void cage like the Black Egg, then it just wouldn't work

Void is a key part of the plan

[hardy tangle]

they have to build the prison beforehand, which would take a while since you have to bring resources from far away, so you wont have enough time and the radiance kills everyone
how would thk with radiance be contained while theyre making this prison? some fuckass chains arent doing anything, and even if the chains immobolise them radiance can still infect a bajillion bugs and also infect the ones trying to build the new prison

[earnest drift]

why not
it’s temporary for the delivery for their actual prison out in the wastes

[hardy tangle]

flawless plan!

[lusty grove]

if it's not Void, the chains would just instantly break

[earnest drift]

where does the game say this

[frosty light]

taking thk elsewhere wouldnt stop the infection, as rad targets people from the dream realm, and we see how even the knight can quickly transport itself anywhere in the kingdom with just dream gate, and how the troupe transports themselves to distant lands using the lantern. in city of tears theres that thing about how they sealed all entrances and exits but it didnt help them in the slightest since the infection spreads through the mind, not body. deepnest and the hive being hit more recently is probably because of the same thing as here: #sk-discussion message the infection hits harder where infection already is

[hardy tangle]

i think the chains are some rune thing

[lusty grove]

if you don't use the strongest material, you can't bind the strongest god

[hardy tangle]

but the chains just stop thk from hurting itself i think

[lusty grove]

it's just my theory

[earnest drift]

[lusty grove]

but it's the only one that makes sense

[hardy tangle]

they dont actually stop the radiance from wreaking havoc

[earnest drift]

the black egg is void because it was made by the ancient civilisation right

who is linked to void

[lusty grove]

any other theory has the flaw that you can just say "then why didn't PK do [thing]?"

[frosty light]

i mean that is straight up what zote did
"Precept Fifty-Six: 'Do Not Dream'.
Dreams are dangerous things. Strange ideas, not your own, can worm their way into your mind. But if you resist those ideas, sickness will wrack your body! Best not to dream at all, like me. "

[lusty grove]

no, it was made by Pale King

[hardy tangle]

also is it confirmed the radiances infection has any set range

[earnest drift]

infected crossroads shows distance matters
radiance doesn't infect other kingdoms

[hardy tangle]

if she has 1 person infected cant it like spread

[frosty light]

probably depends on where shes "looking"

[lusty grove]

HOLY SHIT ZOTE IS RIGHT

[earnest drift]

it's not contagious in that way no

city of tears tried to quarantine and it didn't work

[frosty light]

since we know she directly speaks to bugs in their dreams, or can, anyway

[lusty grove]

Radiance can't affect places that are not Hallownest

[frosty light]

we dont know that

[minor sparrow]

well idk how true that is

[earnest drift]

ok so there's no reason pale king couldn't have made the black egg deep underground

[lusty grove]

the fact that other places are not infected is proof of that

[frosty light]

shes never had beef elsewhere and by the start of the game still hasnt manage to take hallownest yet (thk isnt dead yet)

[minor sparrow]

they don't know of her, but if someone like moss prophet spread her image, she probably could

[lusty grove]

cuz deep underground is the Abyss