sk-discussion

[lavish apex]

i don't think i have on either playthrough

[zinc wharf]

Dang, that’s a shame. Unless someone finds a way to activate the switch while already within the wheel, guess I’ll just have to figure something else out elsewhere.

[graceful oyster]

I just love that he forces usage of a dodging ability

[last marten]

Wtf

[light swan]

all of these were spogos

[graceful oyster]

Within the what

[light swan]

looks to be suuper range limited unlike witch

[terse cloak]

just beat two bosses, now i shall go to bed

[graceful oyster]

[zinc wharf]

The wheel in Choral Chambers

[graceful oyster]

Ah okay thanks

[zinc wharf]

This one

[tough hamlet]

yoo have you seen EX-1170? hes been pissing me off i can't find him

[light swan]

the best earlygame boss is burger king :D or lotads evolution (hopefully this counts 🥺 )

[lavish apex]

give mio a hard mode but like have it exclusively increase boss health

[last marten]

Spoiler fail

[cosmic nest]

nobody saw that i forgot to censor

[light swan]

yk we're in a channel that allows all spoilers right

[cosmic nest]

The images were spoiled thank god lmao

[graceful oyster]

I don't like either of those as much considering what makes a good first few bosses

[cosmic nest]

I know i just dont want to spoil anyone who doesnt know that

[queen acorn]

i just cannot help myself but fall right into youuuu

[light swan]

burger king is kinda perfect for me

[lavish apex]

who

[queen acorn]

last time i ate that shit i threw up

[tough hamlet]

yoo have you seen EX-1170? hes been pissing me off i can't find him

[graceful oyster]

Oh I love burger king but like, bird man

[light swan]

the first one

[tough hamlet]

oil up

[light swan]

im kind of biased towards blacksmith over scare

[lavish apex]

why that nickname

[tough hamlet]

big boy

[queen acorn]

what

[light swan]

but thats mostly cuz of how i experienced them, if i had to back it up with actual game design principles i couldnt

[cosmic nest]

@last marten || the cutscene that plays shows gms’s silk slowly creeping into the wastes and haunting the bugs of the wastes||

[light swan]

tgeres burgers behind them

[lavish apex]

brother what
the fuck
are u talking about

[graceful oyster]

He also says mmburger

[cosmic nest]

Its so cool i wish this was still in the game

[queen acorn]

hk is so cool imagine if silksong actually came out

[tough hamlet]

yoo have you seen EX-1170? hes been pissing me off i can't find him

[last marten]

Wtf

[graceful oyster]

I'm boutta get the mods on you for spamming, shaddup

[lavish apex]

what are you talking about my man what kinda bit is this

[queen acorn]

bradar what is dis

[light swan]

can someone get me an ssm-mx230sa e-scythe

[tough hamlet]

sorry ill stop

[charred ruin]

if you go anywhere besides the very center of the wheel you will get pushed out. although, no matter what direction the passage is in if the lever is activate you will just stand at the bottom in mid air until the rotating animation finishes if you no clip into the center

[lavish apex]

this weapon would be so cool if it didn't suck

[light swan]

e scythe is just a banger name

tbh there arent many good regular weapons anyway

[queen acorn]

i

[light swan]

i know theres the 20 hit beam thing and phoenix which i used

[queen acorn]

is this real life

[light swan]

yes e-scythes exist irl

[queen acorn]

e scythe irl is living juxstaposition

[lavish apex]

we are talking about xenoblade chronicles x

[queen acorn]

i thought so

[light swan]

man i fucking love skells

[queen acorn]

im gullible asl i WILL believe you

[lavish apex]

they're so cool bro

[light swan]

yk at the top of #rules-and-info it says "Gullible"

[light swan]

give me more big robots to analyze PLEASE

[queen acorn]

you wont BELIEVE where it says gullible

[lavish apex]

i hope the next xenoblade has a lot of robots and they actually matter

[graceful oyster]

Sparky is not a trashcan on wheels

[light swan]

me staying past my bed time to glaze the fuck out of these fuckass robots

hraesvelg jet is super weird because from any other angle it looks like ass

[graceful oyster]

This game is weird

[astral olive]

And so it is, and so they are. Both can be true.

The Citadel is Holy. It is Glorious and the members of its sect want for nothing after their grueling pilgrimage. Their purpose is divine, and ordained by the lesser gods, to sing unending in praise of a Goddess. That they are tools is the point, and something any would take pride in. If their doctrine was built on unerring truth nothing would change.

It is harsh. It is iron clad. It is monstrous. But that is doctrine. That is faithfulness. That is what worthiness looks like. A machine that turns bugs into unending music, with the payment being a life of plenty.

That the purpose of the Choirs acts wasn't greed, but to continue their liturgy truly without struggle for their people once they reached the Citadel makes them all the worse.

[lavish apex]

it is

[light swan]

get me more please

honestly the only one i wish was different was verus

its elmas canon skell, has super cool form and antennae, but jsut use the basic dingaling structure

[ancient mortar]

Except the payment isn't wanting for nothing or a life of plenty They are put to work in brutal conditions in the underworks despite having finished their pilgrimage, and then if they are allowed into the citadel they are only able to thrive until they are deemed not good enough and are lobotomized and put into machines where their autonomy is removed. Again, none of that's fair. They believe reaching the citadel will be rewarded when it's just another step in a long line of injustice towards them.

[lavish apex]

my goat

[crisp pier]

Pharloom reminds me of north Korea

[light swan]

is that lailah queen

[lavish apex]

yea

[light swan]

i remember my queen for having a flat head and no neck

[lavish apex]

well not queen actually just the regular one

[light swan]

verus cainnnn 🔥

[cosmic nest]

pharloom in its current state is 100% better than nk

[lavish apex]

where is this art from?

[light swan]

i wish the antennae thing was used for like back wheels or smth

[zinc wharf]

Double dang…
I take it only needle swings make the lever work? No red tools do anything to it?

[crisp pier]

Whys everyone lwk talking Abt ultrakill nowadays

[light swan]

takayuki yanase, pulled these from the wiki

[distant prawn]

trying to beat last judge while in act 2

Bro is genuinely too hard

[crisp pier]

SIN OR WORK

[distant prawn]

Counting act 3?

[crisp pier]

You should try him in act 3, he's way easier

[distant prawn]

son 😭

[light swan]

oh my god these skells are so funny

[worldly lake]

cool

[charred ruin]

nope, already tested tools and silk skills

[light swan]

its crazy how cool it is to visualize

[charred ruin]

i know rune rage can break breakable walls (which is how you skip surface parkour) but doesnt seem to interact with levers

[light swan]

im sad that so many of the skells share the same layout

4 of the 7 main skells follow the same layout, 2 also follow the same layout

mastema and ares are still unique but ares insnt a main skell imo

[lavish apex]

never really looked at how they transform before

[light swan]

so thats 4 total unique designs

[light swan]

yea its super cool to analyze

all the skells lay on their back with their hands at their sides, except for ares who's doing a super hero pose

with front wheels extending out of the shoulders

[lavish apex]

and then you just have one that goes 🏃‍♂️ 💨

[light swan]

yea but hraesvelg turns into a jet

i still dont get how that one works since its hard to get camera angles

ngl i should have somewhere that analyzes the fuck out of ouroboros too tbh

i remember being in class and realizing how eunie splits and unfolds her rifle to turn into her wings

which is how she can shoot lots of small bullets with her wings, and one big strong bullet with her rifle

[lavish apex]

huh

[light swan]

ofc theres also sena, who's tail combiens with her wings to form her hammer

noah who uses his swords as a surfboard, thats normal

i think mio and taion are more magic based, i havent analyzed lanz enough

his big 4 plates when he Ray Of Punishment!s surely come from somewhere

[astral olive]

And that is why and how the machine was broken.

[light swan]

honestly those plates probably unfold out of his gauntlets

[zinc wharf]

So could Rune Rage break the breakable wall between the Exhaust Organ and lower Underworks from the Organ side?

[light swan]

wait those arent plates those are dragon heads holy SHIT

[ancient mortar]

Except again, this was the goal from the start of the faith. Weavers conceived it explicitly to use pilgrims as unknowing sacrifices to keep gms asleep.

[charred ruin]

possibly? i havent tested it yet

[zinc wharf]

Brb, Ima get kidnapped and test it myself

[light swan]

yea im confused

lanz obviously gets one pair of dragon heads from his gauntlets, where does the other pair come from

[charred ruin]

on second thought it may not work if the wall is between area transitions

[light swan]

are they attached to his ring spike things ????

[zinc wharf]

Luckily, the wall I’m asking about isn’t.

[charred ruin]

should only work if the breakable wall is between one spot and another in the same room

go test it out

[crisp pier]

What's a gauntlet? Arena? Cuz I hear people say it

[light swan]

what are the ring spikes even used for

[zinc wharf]

Yeah I’m doing that. Gimme a moment.

[zinc wharf]

Area where you have to fight waves of regular enemies.

[charred ruin]

tho this is just a guess based off of the surface skip cuz i havent tested it on anything else yet

[crisp pier]

So an arena

[charred ruin]

lmk if it works

[charred ruin]

arena just refers to the area where something is fought

[graceful oyster]

Decaf coffee is such a blessing

[crisp pier]

It was called an arena in HK, it will be still called an arena in sk

[astral olive]

Yes. But the failings of the Citadel don't grow from it being a lie.

They grow from a mix of moral failings among the Choir and the zealous belief in the Unending Song that lead to those failings.

The failings would justifiably be there even if the Choir wasn't a Bene Gesserit style created religion.

[graceful oyster]

Thank you smart people for finding out how to extract caffeine from my coffee

[light swan]

yea i dont get ouroboros

[graceful cairn]

coffee tastes like shit why would you drink this

[outer meteor]

is wanderer crest better than hunter crest as a silksong only?

[sage berry]

not be confused with a gauntlet, where waves of things are fought

[graceful oyster]

Coffee tastes so freaking good

I'd drink a gallon of it if it weren't so acidic

[light swan]

mio's ouroboros is lowkey the best looking one (lanz up there too) despite the lack of complexity

the rings, the hair, the color, perfect

she skates isnt that awesome

[charred ruin]

im not so big a fan of coffee cuz it makes me sleepy but i love chai milk tea

[ancient mortar]

I wouldn't say it's just the failings of the choir/conductors, what I'm arguing is the citadel was evil from the start even when it was the weavers at the head. The weavers from the start held the same thoughtless cruelty as the conductors viewing their subjects as just pawns to sacrifice.

[zinc wharf]

Holy mother of bad RNG is Rune Rage testing my patience.

[sage berry]

and does smoking clean your lungs

[charred ruin]

time to install debug mod and give urself infinite silk

[ancient mortar]

There is nothing fair about the faith in part because the faith itself is a deliberate trap meant to decieve and consume it's victims

[charred ruin]

no i just have adhd

[zinc wharf]

I’m on Switch, can’t mod.

I’m using Weavelight instead

[ancient mortar]

The weavers even speak of the pilgrims as if they are prey trapped in their web

[graceful oyster]

If you seek comfort, none remains

[light swan]

why does mio look so cool

[zinc wharf]

I casted a Rune Rage that spawned no runes…

Twice in a row

Does Rune Rage get stale or something?

[graceful oyster]

I think you're talking about xenomio but still, I wish I could post the Mio images 8bix took but they're all in a spoilery place

[light swan]

no its just fucked

are you playing nyleth

[zinc wharf]

No, I’m in the Underworks/Exhaust Organ transition room to see if I can break the breakable wall in it.

[light swan]

mio spoilers

[light swan]

thats some long armpit hair

OH GRYNNE weird question but can you get some reference pics looking up mio's chest i want to solve the mystery of whats under her collair

[graceful oyster]

I wish I had status bars that could sh- what the f

[light swan]

if its actually armpit hair or more spine hair or chest hair

[zinc wharf]

@charred ruin How many runes are needed to break a wall?

[graceful oyster]

I wish I had status bars that could show exactly what nutrients I'm missing

[charred ruin]

should just be 1? if you want i can try testing it on other breakable walls throughout the game when i have free time using mods to get around faster

[graceful oyster]

I'll... see what I can do next time I'm on

[charred ruin]

just i dont remember where all the breakeable walls are sooooo

[light swan]

the question has been plaguing me for so long

ive ogne through 3 different ideas of what mio's chest looks like

[zinc wharf]

The wall I’m trying to break might not be breakable from the other end

Unless this is a current-patch thing.

[graceful cairn]

thats a sentence

[charred ruin]

true true when i did surface skip that was prior to latest major patch

[zinc wharf]

I’m on version 1.028650, if that changes anything.

[charred ruin]

i think that was the one i was on too

[heavy arch]

i hate sinners road

[zinc wharf]

Hmm…

[charred ruin]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/780947731575232634/ patch notes mentions nothing about surface, rune rage, or breakable walls

[light swan]

btw the runes not spawning is smth thats hpapened for a while

[charred ruin]

thats a bug right

[light swan]

yea

[charred ruin]

ok cool itd be absurd if it wasnt

[light swan]

probably at least

[charred ruin]

rune rage worst silk skill in the game and it gets worse if the chance to not spawn is intended

[zinc wharf]

Also, in case it wasn’t clear which wall I’m trying to break, it’s the one with the red circle around it.

[heavy arch]

I HATE SINNERS ROAD

[astral olive]

And they are. Mortals are tools for the gods. This is as it's always been. But mortals are rewarded for their use, and the gods protect and maintain their tools lest they be broken.

It's a different mindset, a different way of looking at the world.

One enacts liturgy because that is one's role in existence, and the gods is to protect, and heal and do their godly duties.

Thus the Weaver burial spikes. They are there to continue their remit as gods even in death, after their sisters have otherwise died or fled. Because that is their role. They heal and ward and strengthen the faithful.

[heavy arch]

IM GONNA KILL MYSELFFF

[charred ruin]

imagine we get anti-magnetite dice and it just nerfs your chance to crit on wanderers and successfully cast silk skills

[light swan]

rune rage carried this fight

[charred ruin]

or nerfs your silk skill damage occasionally

[lavish apex]

why are we the only hk fans that also have the xenoblade brainworms illusion

[light swan]

ive seen some others

aleph, box shades, tammo

[charred ruin]

rune rage instakill

[light swan]

also that time when 3-4 other xenoblade enjoyers pulled up on us

also lidemi who doesnt like xenoblade

[graceful oyster]

Hey hey don't forget me

[stark maple]

I'm waiting for a Pantheon of Pharloom to be honest

[lavish apex]

was that on purpose

[light swan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExamI4Y3MxNGx2dmtpajEwMWtkaHF1emdmcGx4dWE2ZW9mMTV5d3I0aCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/28CVnr1u0BIFJ0IXeI/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[stark maple]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-14576371

[graceful oyster]

Haha yeah I remember that part

[zinc wharf]

Well if any of you want to try Rune Rage gambling to help me make my overly-specific save file become a reality, you can try right around here.

[light swan]

yea me too!

i remember it clear as day

👁️

[graceful oyster]

Did Mio folks fill the "local club" void that the jibbities left unfilled

Or am I crazy

[light swan]

mio folks were already here before the el jibbities left

the el is so funny

[graceful oyster]

I know but like it wasn't as solid

[light swan]

i think thats less a case of the void and more of mio geting more popular

[graceful oyster]

Now there's like a known posse of Miogoers

[light swan]

you and i were already known

then like, tammo or blebbles joined in at some point i think

and then starpengu stdoggo moon etc

actually no the original mio group was hunter and i

[graceful oyster]

It was

I also remember Hunter saying no one uses hairpin

[lavish apex]

you two did a good job propagating it

[light swan]

i remember hunter tweaking out at seeing chaxel for the first time

[graceful oyster]

Yeah I mean, it isn't a case of like, nine sols where the game was already popular

[light swan]

and also hella glazing the demo, i think it was his top 5? maybe less

[graceful oyster]

I don't see anyone else talk about it but us

Or people we convinced

[light swan]

because we're the only ones who've played it :D

the people who talk about it but havent played it are the ones who will play it

[lavish apex]

i was seeing stuff about it on youtube for a bit before playing myself

[light swan]

i am still a day 1 mio believer

[light swan]

even if it was, mio just hits differently from nine sols that it's easier to talk about and glaze

i do see plenty of nine sols talk from the same couple people (onion) but its just that mio is better :D

also ig the hype train is still running for mio

[graceful cairn]

i think i first heard about mio from some shorts youtuber (who i think i also heard about constance from)

[graceful oyster]

It is nice to see new people coming in and enjoying it

Constance

[light swan]

i found both constance and afterimage from yt shorts

anyway speaking of games i need to put yall on

[graceful oyster]

I don't watch anything on YT so I have no news of the gaming world outside of Discord

[graceful cairn]

so true

[light swan]

actually nvm grynne doesnt like vaguely eastern looking art styles

was gonna send inari 😢

[graceful oyster]

Look

I like Nine Sols' artstyle

It's humans I don't like the look of

[light swan]

teleport based kunai charge playstyle looks awesome

and inari is canonically a reaper crest user i think

[lavish apex]

there are humans in nine sols?

[graceful cairn]

i had this huge catalogue of games i was gonna buy during this sale but apparently my dad owns literally all of them and we're in a steam family so i dont even need to buy them 🎉

[graceful oyster]

Why is this dead cells

[light swan]

monkeys...

[graceful cairn]

gng look my pfp in the eyes

[light swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJKDPaFoGaI

[graceful oyster]

That's not what I meant

[stark maple]

||Imagine a Lost Savage Beastfly in Groal's arena guys and Driznargas as gauntlets||

[lavish apex]

how was i supposed to know that was from that game

[graceful cairn]

psychic abilities

[light swan]

blebbles use your monado :(

[graceful oyster]

I'm not 100% against this, except it has to actually have a good story to break through

I don't like how much it looks like Dead Cells

[light swan]

from what ive seen inari has a pretty good focus on story

[lavish apex]

i really like how dead cells looks

[graceful oyster]

Yeah but is it good, is the question

[light swan]

higher chance that it's good since theres a focus on it at least

[graceful oyster]

Woof I'm getting headaches just looking at the trailers

[light swan]

i love games that focus on entertainment :)

[graceful oyster]

Maybe I'll just pass

[lavish apex]

™

[graceful oyster]

Lock In Entertainment

[light swan]

Six-Septiemes

[lavish apex]

metroidslop platformer

[light swan]

man inari just looks like nine sols but interesting combat instead of parries

[graceful cairn]

i really wanna play more metroidvania slop just so i can inflate the amount of games on my soon to be metroidvania tier list

[light swan]

parries turn into teleports

stacking qi charges is about skill and not how long you can hold a button

[lavish apex]

sometimes parries are fun

[light swan]

and we all know nine sols has a great combat system

[light swan]

i havent played every parry game out there but out of the ones ive played ive only seen 1 fun parry

do evasion arts count as parries

[earnest drift]

a video game where the player can teleport?

[light swan]

if they do, two

[light swan]

yea

[earnest drift]

how flexible is it

[light swan]

idk watch the trailer

[lavish apex]

i think so but that's not really the same

[light swan]

there are some parries i can still call good

such as mio parry

but i dont find them fun because i hate parries

[lavish apex]

ghostwalker is just a cheat code

[light swan]

UC is the only parry i enjoy

[graceful oyster]

The humble YOMI cowboy:

[light swan]

ok but thats decoy and not an evasion art

[lavish apex]

nugow parry is pretty cool, but the game does force other responses

so it's just not subject to the same issues

[earnest drift]

this channel has so much time to play games

[light swan]

xenoblade has a completely different combat flow to the typical platfomrer combat so i cant realistically compare them

[light swan]

these are games ive played over the past 6 years

6 or 7 years actually

[earnest drift]

I’m not even this old

[light swan]

i started xc2 in 2019

[graceful cairn]

i should really play a different game instead of practicing the high halls gauntlet for hours straight

[earnest drift]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-lace-laugh-villain-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-15852753054655955151

[graceful oyster]

This is like the only cowboy replay I have saved where it teleports a lot and I still win

[light swan]

filthy wizard spammer

/j

[graceful oyster]

Count how many darts I use

[lavish apex]

i played xc2 like a month after it came out

[light swan]

i cant believe you nohit that guy

[lavish apex]

christmas switch

[graceful oyster]

I took damage?

[light swan]

oh wait im looking at the wrong side of the hp bar

i thougth the left was period cramped hp

[tight viper]

If I had a nickel for every time Clipchamp has secretly hijacked half of my laptop's storage this month, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but holy hell is it annoying

[light swan]

i think i said before but if i got into yomi id be a ninja player

rmeinds me of mii sword fighter, feels very me-like

[graceful oyster]

The only time I took damage was when I planned to take damage because it put me in positive frame advantage

[graceful oyster]

100%

[light swan]

bud you got hit only twice by side slashes or whatever

nothing that even comboed yuou

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[light swan]

skill gap confirmed ?

[light swan]

honestly if i dont do ninja id probably go mutant

they look cool and jukes sound cool

[heavy mason]

I'm in act 3

[rough anvil]

Just finished steel soul im omw to 100% it now

[light swan]

have i seen this before also holy fucking shit

[heavy mason]

W man

[heavy arch]

I HATE SINNERS ROAD SM

IM GOING TO KILL MYSELFFFFF

[graceful oyster]

Probably

[rough anvil]

Scared af of like the brothers in deep docks

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1472143802260127805/Average_putrified_ducts.gif

[rough anvil]

Shit's scarier than bilewater

[light swan]

it's called putrified fucks for a reason

[heavy mason]

I love the flea caravan but team cherry was genuinely trolling us by putting them in one of the most annoying areas

[graceful oyster]

I call this replay something like "silencing a newborn wizard" or something

[light swan]

looks like it

[graceful oyster]

Hey if you find baby players in grown up lobbies you have the right to murder

[light swan]

one day ill get into yomi with my baby ninja and youre gonna kick myu ass

how long does it take to get "good" at yomi

[graceful oyster]

I like to teach people I would only crush you like twice

[light swan]

these people feel like theyve been training for years

[graceful oyster]

I got the hang of it after 10 hours, started being able to reliably win matchups at 30

[light swan]

omg ash did you see my wanderer karm hitless today also my flintslate shenanigans on second sentinel

[sharp slate]

Nice, i love second sentinel, nice fight, rune rage mvp

[graceful oyster]

I had someone teaching me though

[light swan]

was this the karm hitless

[graceful oyster]

I can beat him now :)

[light swan]

ok that seems like what i expected but also damn

[graceful oyster]

He has 300h

[rough anvil]

Do you actually lose steel soul in a memory fight

[light swan]

how many hours total rn i feel like this is up to like 200+

[graceful oyster]

I have 95

[tight viper]

Nope

[light swan]

damn bro 😭

[tight viper]

Die as many times as you want, your save will be fine

[rough anvil]

Atleast team cherry didnt turn into fucker supreme ty

[sharp slate]

jumping over her always scares me i got trauma from backdash

[light swan]

idk if jumping is better but it definitely feels better

scuttlebrace shenanigans when

[graceful oyster]

These are more realistic matchups that I had like 3 weeks ago, haven't played since

[heavy mason]

GD reference?

[sharp slate]

definetely better for damage, but for hitless consistency i would say less so, depends on timing though as well, you can consistently jump over without backdash if you time it correctly

[light swan]

my Bruzz rn Bro this Is not Skeletal

[light swan]

she never backdashes unless shes in the corner tbh

[light swan]

usually i wait for her telegraph before jumping anyway

[sharp slate]

tbh you play a more grounded style karm, similar to what i do at least

[light swan]

so i dont think getting fuckhanded by a fuckdash is too common

[rough anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[sharp slate]

grounded karm means less front/back dashes

[light swan]

yea i put off sawtooth because i couldnt be bothered lol

wanderer is more accurate and fun by just spamming

[heavy arch]

guys where am i

[sharp slate]

yea, i have sawtooth equipped for my hitless stuff for karm but i rarely use it for her, only during her screams and its like two hits

[light swan]

i also dont pogo because pogoing is bad (unless youre beast or hunter or witch)

[light swan]

is that robot btw

[graceful oyster]

It is

[sharp slate]

yea iframes save ya

[light swan]

holy shit 2nd was close

[graceful oyster]

It was an excellent Wizard duel

[light swan]

it really was bro holy shit

[graceful oyster]

The guy was very good

But he was predictable near the end

[light swan]

wanderer deals better damage by just horizontally attacking as youre falling anyway i feel, rather than pogoing when shes under you

[tight viper]

Sinner's Road, left of the double trapdoors below a chest

[heavy arch]

bro i need my area map

[light swan]

such an anime 1v1 vibes rn lol

[heavy arch]

someone help me get my area map

[sharp slate]

definetely ik some bosses i still pogo but usually i follow it up with a down dash

[light swan]

i dont actually remember what you do tho

reminds me more of a hit and run style

[mental snow]

Learning how to control Steel Soul hubris is not easy.

You get one lucky streak in a previous Steel Soul run and then you think you can do it again. No. No you cannot.

[light swan]

i didnt bother with parrying her curvesickles like i usually do because id rather stitch damage

[tight viper]

Go back down through the trapdoors, hug the left wall as you descend, should see a bench sign above a left transition

[mental snow]

(I died again if you couldn't tell)

[sharp slate]

rip where you make it to?

[heavy arch]

YO MY BENCH IS GLITCHEDDDDD

IT JUST GOES UP AND DOWN

[sharp slate]

intentional, there may be a way to fix it

[light swan]

save and quit imo

(dont do it)

[rough anvil]

Its a game breaking bug delete the game

[mental snow]

Far Fields, went to the arena only accessible by Cling Grip (I pogo skipped to it)

[heavy arch]

alright

[tight viper]

Hope you brought Hornet's Handy Dandy Toolkit

[sharp slate]

i haven't used stitch in a while tbh, its so cool but so strong

[light swan]

anyway i need to test spogos against a boss like bell beast

[earnest drift]

try saving and quitting then going in again

[mental snow]

Got boxed in and took a lot of unnecessary hits

[light swan]

evil, i would never suggest that

[heavy arch]

i died

[light swan]

did you at least respawn at the bench

[mental snow]

I really wanted those 365 rosaries

[graceful oyster]

Graaaaaaggghhh I need to play YOMI now but I have too much wooork

Too much today, too much tomorrow

[heavy arch]

I HATEEEEEEE

SINNERSS ROADDDDDD

imv going to kill myself

[graceful oyster]

YOMI is a dollar off btw so you basically have to get it

[mental snow]

Just you fuckin wait until the other 2 areas worse than that

[earnest drift]

don’t worry there aren’t any other areas as difficult as this in the game

[light swan]

theres too mabny things i have to get

[heavy arch]

what

[graceful oyster]

It's $4

That's like, a candy bar

[tight viper]

Sinner's Highway and Sinner's 4-way Intersection

[mental snow]

Don't worry about it

Just make sure you have "fun"

[mental snow]

Lmaooo

[heavy arch]

bilewater?

[graceful oyster]

2 candy bars

[tight viper]

We need more Bilewater

[mental snow]

And another area that's admittedly short but a bitch to complete

[earnest drift]

easier than sinner’s road

especially with sawtooth circlet on

[mental snow]

You're just ragebaiting or played too much Bilewater if you think it's easier

[rough anvil]

I mean the enemies arent as bitchy ig

[light swan]

hunter cant spogo

[rough anvil]

And it has a cool boss

[mental snow]

Gotta pay the Sinner's Toll if you want the shortcut through the Sinner's Freeway

[earnest drift]

I agree I like groal

[tight viper]

I wonder how many new Sinners get confused when they encounter the Sinner's Roundabout

[rough anvil]

He's actually very high in my tierlist

[mental snow]

What are you trying to show here?

[rough anvil]

His attacks are actually simple and i lvoe him for that

[earnest drift]

canonically, would any pilgrim have entered the citadel via sinner’s road

I don’t think it would work

[rough anvil]

The hell would they do on the mist

😭😭😭😭

[earnest drift]

unless they went that path before phantom was enslaved

but that would’ve been at least a century ago

[tight viper]

Think it only spogos when pogoing from the side, unfort

[heavy arch]

do i need to finish this platforming challenge to enable the bench

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[earnest drift]

nah just grab the bench and pull it upwards forcefully

[graceful cairn]

sinners road hates you

[tight viper]

Only if it's Tuesday

[heavy arch]

bro stop trolling me

[heavy arch]

its monday tho 😔

[earnest drift]

Shakra doing nothing while Hornet risks her life to fix a bench

[heavy arch]

ID EIDDDD

[tight viper]

Shakra's too busy drawing pretty pictures

[heavy arch]

FUCKKKKKK 😭

[light swan]

CRESTS THAT CAN SPOGO

• reaper, beast, witch

CRESTS THAT CANT SPOGO

• hunter, wanderer, architect, shaman

[earnest drift]

did you rest at the bench before trying to fix it

[heavy arch]

JUST GIVE ME THE BENCH

[light swan]

@mental snow im testing which crests can spogo and which crests cant

[heavy arch]

yup luckily

[earnest drift]

guys remind me
can you kill herrah without sitting on the trapped Deepnest bench

[placid anchor]

yall im attempting twisted child

[earnest drift]

good luck

it’s not that hard though

[placid anchor]

thanks i will really need it

[earnest drift]

silksong’s rigged benches are annoying but I also find them funny in their own way

especially with how uniquely they’re trapped

[light swan]

also beast and reaper arent confirmed to spogo, you need to be super low

[heavy arch]

STOP STOP STOP

[earnest drift]

nooo I love beast spogo

[mental snow]

#hk-discussion but yeah you can, C-Dash from the right wall, stop immediately, jump to the right to go through the secret ceiling entrance

At the top of the right wall*

[light swan]

yea i cant say its easy to beast spogo

[earnest drift]

in general or on certain bosses

[light swan]

id say bell beast is general enough

its not as easy as reaper spogo or witch spogo

speaking of reaper spogo

[earnest drift]

dammit I really liked beast spogo

becoming two buzzsaws, one spinning vertically and the other spinning horizontally

it looks so cool

[light swan]

for me it doesnt hit the same because its not at the same time

[heavy arch]

again

[light swan]

its kind of like, one after the other

[graceful cairn]

whats a spogo

[light swan]

its when you sawtooth and then pogo like 1 frame after

[light swan]

@graceful cairn

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/akkubaba007-jerry-laugh-akku-fav-gif-gif-16150872697915744919

[light swan]

shortened version of sawtooth pogo

[graceful oyster]

I'm not toxic at all I swear

All kosher here

[light swan]

seems prety salto to me

[graceful cairn]

ohh

sawtooth tech...

[exotic cedar]

Rappers who can sing vs rappers who can't sing

[light swan]

well im happy that its on reaper at least

[earnest drift]

snotch pock

[placid anchor]

i hate my life

[light swan]

that way witch still has the crown

beautiful double bind

[placid anchor]

Activate Windows

[light swan]

no

[earnest drift]

nice

[graceful oyster]

Ol' Uri squinted and then nodded at the glowcrow's suggestion for a game of backgammon.
The boy started. "But Uri! How can you dice with these vermin after one pecked out your eye?"
Uri shrugged, "Can't blame the crow. He was gonna peck, whether my eye was there or not."

[candid glacier]

get a key

[earnest drift]

is this from Harry Potter

[graceful oyster]

No

[light swan]

i need to gather more lost lace clips

[graceful oyster]

I need to buy a shelf and more loose leaf teas

Gotta find me more ginger teas

[toxic vigil]

Hi

[placid anchor]

Grandma is killing meeeee

[light swan]

hello

[earnest drift]

how much dmg would straight pins have to deal to be as good as curvesickle

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/cecesrhaccc1-on-tiktok-cecesrhaccc1-wave-wave-cat-cecesgif-gif-3519480851846766777

[toxic vigil]

Assuming how many hits average

4?

[earnest drift]

4 yes

[toxic vigil]

Alr let me do math

[earnest drift]

it’s not just the dmg capacity that needs to match, because curvesickle would deal the same dmg but faster

[toxic vigil]

45 and 1/3rd dmg

[tight viper]

they have the same damage tbf

[toxic vigil]

So 46 for more and 45 for less

[graceful oyster]

Cocktail sauce is just ketchup and horseradish

[earnest drift]

yes but curvesickles multihit

[toxic vigil]

Its 17 rn.

[earnest drift]

holy

[toxic vigil]

Assuming 4 hits

[toxic vigil]

Or 266% base dmg

For x4 multihits

[earnest drift]

if they dealt 30 dmg each they might have a niche over curvesickle for smaller enemies? or generally being more consistent

[light swan]

are you fucking serious

[toxic vigil]

Or nerf curvesickle

[light swan]

almost did hitless buit i screwed up at the last 100 hp

[earnest drift]

or just remove it

curveclaw was fine

[light swan]

curvesickle looks cooler

[earnest drift]

would you consider flintslate to be as strong as curvesickle

[toxic vigil]

Honestly they should have given it only bigger hitbox

[light swan]

1 extra damage would be fine

[toxic vigil]

Curvesickle a bit higher but flintslate is still amazing

[toxic vigil]

Rn its 3 -> 5 base dmg

[earnest drift]

are voltvessel stakes as strong as curvesickle

[toxic vigil]

Spears?

[earnest drift]

yes

[exotic cedar]

Rip

[light swan]

bro why do i deal so much damage

silksong has the mio problem too

just not as bad because silksong builds arent interesting

[toxic vigil]

2.83 multihits average to be equall

[graceful oyster]

Real

[toxic vigil]

Assuming you hit both the needle from the spear and all ticks

[toxic vigil]

Circlet

[light swan]

yomio husilksong

[graceful oyster]

I can't really single out a "build" other than just crest choices, silk skill choice, red tool choice, and like circlet/drillitecht

It's just a bunch of slightly different versions of the same thing

[earnest drift]

what’s the problem

[graceful oyster]

Reaaally easy to deal insane amounts of damage

[light swan]

the builds that exist arent really builds the same way you strategize and think about tradeoff and risk reward and find synergies

[earnest drift]

I thought that was every game

[light swan]

yea but mio makes it more apparent

the scaling is bonnkers, the difference between a bad player with a bad build and a good player with a good build is crazy

[graceful oyster]

@ mist

[earnest drift]

isn’t that a good thing

[toxic vigil]

2.94 for bolas with only zaps and 3.3 for max bola damage
So if you can get 4 hits half the time and other half 3 curvesickle is better

[light swan]

well no because that means good players cant enjoy the bossfights for as long

[graceful oyster]

Never ask a Mio server owner how many tries it takes to kill a deer

[light swan]

its why i as well as many others want a hard mode with double hp

[toxic vigil]

Imo just nerf circlet

[earnest drift]

oh yeah

I feel like that as well for both hk and sk

I’ve been told balancing around the best players isn’t good so the double hp mode sounds good

[earnest drift]

driving in my car

[light swan]

ive thought about it al lot, mios in a tough spot and the best way for me is to make a ahrd mode

[graceful oyster]

This exists

[light swan]

@ steve jobless

what was it, 42? or 27

or was that someone else

[graceful oyster]

Mist's was over 80

[toxic vigil]

Thing is that sk has a lot more stupid op shit that casuals won't ever find out ( circlet and stuff )

[light swan]

holy god damn shit

then bro went and beat projekt in 5 attempts after shairpin

[plucky stag]

that was my first thought too

[earnest drift]

circlet isn’t hard to start using but the fact that most new players dismiss it as useless is interesting

[graceful oyster]

Well that's because projekt is a pushover

[light swan]

also scarlet and violet

[earnest drift]

unlike strength and shaman stone which are obviously strong from the getgo

[toxic vigil]

I thought it just dealt x1 needle dmg at the start and ignored it after.
Also issue of me buying the 2 other architect craft metal things

[graceful oyster]

Also no, bamby was one of the last bosses he fought

He had everything

[light swan]

what the flip

maybe he put in 70 attempts before getting shairpin

[toxic vigil]

One bc my best red tool at thr time was threefold and 2 bc i wanted more yellows

[graceful oyster]

Nope, never encountered it beforehand

[light swan]

wtffff

[tight viper]

The Hunter Build

Hunter Crest (Self-explanatory)
Weaveshot (Hunting Rifle), Snare Setter (Beartraps)
Weavelight (Flashlight), Longclaw (Trophy from a past hunt), Reserve Bind (Travel pack with food, water, etc.)
Compass (Self-explanatory), Shell Satchel (Utility pouch), Spider Strings (Duck call/lure)

[toxic vigil]

Which silkshot variant

[light swan]

the best one

[toxic vigil]

Alr

Ngl hunter's crest is cool

[light swan]

all the crests are cool

[toxic vigil]

Shaman

Like architech atleast has needletech / charge attack thingy

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[earnest drift]

and what for the skill

[exotic cedar]

Shaman is fun

[toxic vigil]

Shaman is lame asf

[earnest drift]

shaman is better than architect

[toxic vigil]

Needle architech exists

[smoky bridge]

BECAUSE BREAD TASTE BETTER THAN LEY

[graceful oyster]

Ley

[earnest drift]

toolspam architect also exists

[graceful oyster]

Critical spelling error

[toxic vigil]

That one is slop.
Same as shaman silk skill span slop

[earnest drift]

no matter how many spells you spam shaman will never be brainless like architect

[smoky bridge]

I haves not had my coffees yet.

[earnest drift]

because you’re sacrificing your healing for it

[smoky bridge]

Shaman just pisses me off.

I don't like having such low needle damage.

[light swan]

also shaman has cool combat tech

[smoky bridge]

The range is nice and all but like. Gwehh

[light swan]

very cool combat tech

[exotic cedar]

Does needletect has any combat techs

[light swan]

architect has warding parry and pogo at least

[toxic vigil]

Okay.
Red tool spam is worse.
But unlike shaman, it also can be used as a needle crest

[light swan]

shaman can be used as a needle crest too

[smoky bridge]

Makes me feel like I'm gently tossing pool noodles at the enemy with how long it takes to kill anything.

[light swan]

good pogo, cool combat tech

even better with circlet

[toxic vigil]

Id rather use reaper

[toxic vigil]

This is an insult to both

[earnest drift]

yes that’s true
architect’s best may more fun than shaman’s best
but shaman’s worst is more fun than architect’s worst

[light swan]

needle shaman is far cooler than needle reaper

you underestimate shaman a lot

[smoky bridge]

Shaman just ain't for me I think

[toxic vigil]

Yeah.
And i am rating by best

[earnest drift]

what blue tools

[light swan]

shaman needle playstyle is probably the playstyle with the 2nd highest skill ceiling imo

[light swan]

snitch pick longclaw sawtooth circlet

[toxic vigil]

Because its ass?

[earnest drift]

no volt filament on shaman crest is crazy but interesting

[light swan]

the spacing control you need to manage is crazy if you want to maximize cooldown cancelling

[light swan]

arent we talking about needle build

[earnest drift]

what does shaman’s moveset offer regarding needle builds

[light swan]

cooldown cancelling, good chainable pogo

[earnest drift]

how do you do the cool-down cancel

[light swan]

air dash between attacks

[earnest drift]

and shaman is the only crest that can do that?

[light swan]

heres tbe fastest i’ve been able to do it

[static oak]

i filled out the momentos!

[light swan]

mix in circlet and it’s crazy difficult

trying to cooldown cancel not straifjt is already difficult enough

since you need to attack, dash away, and instantly attack again

[earnest drift]

was this intended

[light swan]

and yea, it’s tje only one where you can move while the attack is still happening cux it’s a projectile

[earnest drift]

oh that makes sense

[light swan]

and shamans animation is relatively fast, the projectile takes more time

and there’s also a lot of physical cooldown where you can’t atyack, and airfashing cancels tha cooldown

i haven’t played around with it enough but i feel like the opportunities are super crazy, like rdac chains

like what if you clawlined instead of dashing back towards the enemy and jumping

it’s jut so cool, reaper or architect could never be this cool

also it’s strong too since it deals a burst of 3x damage with circlet

[toxic vigil]

Ngl claw mirrors multibinder are kinda underrated outside of witch.
134 dmg while getting 4 masks is great

[light swan]

it’s a shame they cost 2-3 slots

most ppl would rather put other things i think

[toxic vigil]

I mean.
If you are using claw mirrors multibinder you probably aren't using silk skills so no need for filament

[light swan]

i use mirrors on reaper too

if i’m having multibider then i want injector bands

that leaves no space for sawtooth, snitch pick, volt filament, etc

the only other crest that benefits from binding is beast which gets 1 blue

it’s probably good for someone who isn’t the best at the game yet

but if so then you don’t want to be weaponizinf your bind anyway

[toxic vigil]

Ngl i think that sawlooth is a mistake i hate it

It just turns most crest's optimal to pogo djump pogo repeat crap

[tight viper]

Weaveshot = Fayshot = Railgun = Silkshot Mount Fay Version

[tight viper]

Pale Nails is somewhat similar to a bow/crossbow, I guess?

[worthy lintel]

It’s not really, SimpleEnemyRando has every enemy that works outside its room, plus a bunch that were modified to work

It’s possible to add more by modifying more and they are all planned but bosses like that all require a ton of changes

[spark anchor]

Mmm i see

Im just waiting for lace, pinstress and seth outside of their arenas

[tight viper]

Silkspear could also work

[light swan]

uhh thats only witch and it’s cool on witch

it’s just double jump atyack float atyack float attack etc

[tight viper]

Shaman can absolutely be used for its needle

[toxic vigil]

Dosen't pogo reset djump

[light swan]

yes

but only beast, reaper, and witch can land sawtooth circlet from above

beast is unreliable, reaper is difficult and stil quite slow, witch has the best pogo in the game

[placid anchor]

I FUCKING DID IT

[light swan]

if you do it from the side you get way too high and need to downdash, adding inconsistencies

so thats not the combo at all

[exotic cedar]

Oh nice you found a way to do zango

[toxic vigil]

Thats just pogo chaining

[light swan]

this stuff is specific to witch and it’s cool like that

because witch pogo physically pulls sawtooth circlet into the enemy and it’s way cooler

[tight viper]

Sure, but it's pogo chaining with Shaman in a situation that only Shaman could successfully pogo chain during

[light swan]

it’s the only crest where you want to be pogoing

[still osprey]

How does this even work is there an actual strat or is it just rng

[tight viper]

It required so much shit to go right lol

[toxic vigil]

Oh yeah witch giving less height is usefull here

[light swan]

this isn’t about the height at all lol

[toxic vigil]

What then

[light swan]

the pogo pulling witch in and out of the enemy

if it was about height, wanderer would be able to spogo and wanderer cant spogo

[tight viper]

There's some strategy involved with the timing and my opening, I wanted to get Zango to half health before he reached the right edge of the room so that he would crawl left

[toxic vigil]

Yeah.
So you are closer to the enemy

[exotic cedar]

What bosses left now?

[light swan]

but it’s not about height it’s about physically getting pulled in

[tight viper]

Also have to constantly reorient myself as I pogo to stay between the plasmium globs as much as possible

[light swan]

this is the stuff thats bad, just having the same exact playstyle

[toxic vigil]

How does the witch circlet pogo work then

[light swan]

i just told you

you physically get pulled inside the enemy

[light swan]

this is the third fucking time oml

[still osprey]

Yea that looks extremely precise 😭 massive ggs

[light swan]

at some point i wonder if my messages get read

[light swan]

inside means INSIDE BTW

[toxic vigil]

You can't double jump during the fucking pull

[light swan]

like WITHIN THE HITBOX

[light swan]

you can double jump a frame before

[exotic cedar]

Oh damn good luck

[toxic vigil]

What the FUCK?

[light swan]

oh my god man

[toxic vigil]

Like during the pogo??

[light swan]

a frame before the pogo

[toxic vigil]

Why

[light swan]

so that when the circlet spawns it gets pulled in

INSIDE the enemies hitbox

[tight viper]

Thanks, I'm still kinda hoping that Voltvyrm is possible but I really don't think it is

[light swan]

it’s NOT ABOUT HEIGHT it’s about getting PULLED INSIDE

[toxic vigil]

So you can circlet, pogo, and the circlete gets activated in the fucking pogo?

[light swan]

yea

did you watch the videos i sent

[candid kayak]

witch pogo pulls your hitbox down, and circlet's hitbox follows it

[tight viper]

I need to give the hitboxes another look

[toxic vigil]

This was aimed at tc's code

[orchid locust]

watch your language

[light swan]

i swear to god man i feel like i’m talking to someone who tries to act like they know how things work but they don’t

shaman cooldown cancelling for example

[candid kayak]

most people

[exotic cedar]

I hope it's possible!!

[tight viper]

Might try using Scuttlebrace as well, might make the downdash usable

[light swan]

also witch’s multitude of tech

[toxic vigil]

Okay my issue for assuming the code isn't rtrd*d??

[light swan]

at least most people know theyre clueless

[candid kayak]

it's not even a bug lmfao

[light swan]

how is this restarted

[candid kayak]

yeah how is this restarted

[toxic vigil]

Whatever bye

[light swan]

this is basic logic that anyone could come up with

ok man

[candid kayak]

yeah

[light swan]

i feel like how do you even think you can talk about circlet if you don’t even know how it works

are my videos just magic?

or does it pass over their head

[still osprey]

You could've used any other word btw

[candid kayak]

oh hi badtie

[still osprey]

Hii

[upbeat island]

I fought first sinner for the first time, beat her on my second attempt AND I"M MAD i wanted to fight her more, SUCH A GOOD BOSS OMGGG

[light swan]

is the circlet activating during the pogo not apparent

[candid kayak]

I can't believe they restarted the code...

[toxic vigil]

Ngl the clips aren't really clear

[candid kayak]

witch crest circlet pogo works as follows:

[toxic vigil]

Sorry, no

[tight viper]

No, this is magic

[light swan]

is this also magic

[tight viper]

nah that's just skill

[light swan]

idk they also seem to not know that shaman has fast atyack speed in bursts

[candid kayak]

you double jump, spawning the circlet damage hitbox
then you attack downwards, which pulls hornet's hitbox and the circlet hitbox downwards into the enemy for the duration of the pogo
the circlet damage hitbox touches the enemy hitbox, enemy takes damage

[light swan]

does this help @toxic vigil

[graceful oyster]

Oh my gosh I love that game

[light swan]

some clearer examples showing spogos on every crest

and how they only work on beast reaper and witch

[toxic vigil]

Ngl i tried that and i just couldn't pogo after using circlet so i assumed its somenthing else
Am i stupid or is that like frame perfect

[light swan]

nope yoi have all the time in the world

[toxic vigil]

.. wtf i tried that 😭

[light swan]

did you have faydown cloak whe you tried it

[toxic vigil]

I think so

[light swan]

here’s an example where i pogo like 3-4 frames after the circlet as opposed to 1

the first one specifically

man im sorry but i wish you knew what you were talking about before going and complaining about smth like circlet

i still agree with you though

but also stuff like shaman needle playstyle

which is one of the most nuanced and difficult to master in the game, not because it’s bad but because it’s complex and difficult

[toxic vigil]

Sorry

[light swan]

all good im not the thought police or anything im not gonna punish you

just want you to know

[strange knot]

Wait hunter cant spogo?

[light swan]

cux i feel like this happens a lot

[light swan]

nope, never could

all crests can horizontally spogo tho

hunter is still better tha the others because wavedashing means the spogo can hit i think? idk thats what i’ve observed

and it’s more likely for hunter to spogo on the corners than other crests

[orchid locust]

how do you wavedash on hunter again is it just pogo -> dash as soon as you touch the ground

[light swan]

yea, but i use it to refer to dashing after pogo in general

[strange knot]

I always thought hunter can spogo😭

[light swan]

this would be a wavedash for example

and notice how the wavedash enables the circlet to hit

[toxic vigil]

Horizontally is just like normal sawtooth usage on the side?

[light swan]

yea

but more specifically it’s jut whej youre spogoing next to something

as opposed to above

horizontal spogos arent the best when you can just spam sawtooth normally though

[toxic vigil]

Ngl i thought that what all crests did and witch was just better because you can also pogo

[light swan]

it depends on the pogo tbh

[strange knot]

Spamming circlet normally is lwk really boring

[light swan]

example of horizontal spogos on reaper, a crest that can normally spogo too

[toxic vigil]

Spamming circlet normally is lwk really boring

[strange knot]

Nah spogos are fun

[light swan]

for reference this is what normal circlet spam looks like

[graceful oyster]

I had a lot of fun doing that back when Mio didn't exist but I don't see myself coming back to Skong until dlcs roll around, not even for spogos

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[graceful oyster]

Ultimately boring game after completion

Mio will get to be the same way

[light swan]

probably becuase it’s better than regularly attacking i think but idk

but also because reaper has a great horizontal pogo

[strange knot]

Yeah I’m also really bored of Silksong rn

[light swan]

only witch and reaper and maybe shaman are the crests that would rather horizontally spogo than normal circlet spam

[toxic vigil]

I am kinda bad and just trying to get good..

[light swan]

oops meant to say circlet spam

but spogos are super interesting for me

they just feel satisfying

[strange knot]

Spogos are really cool especially with down dashes

[light swan]

there’s also the tech that doesnt spam circlet but uses circlet

like shaman crest or hunter wavedashes

man i should really play shaman no silk skills more, it’s so interesting

[toxic vigil]

I am better at reaper than witch right now because its pretty easy to use casually

[light swan]

also im glad i have some reaper spogo clips on my phone now theyre so cool

especially since i learned they were possible only today

reaper spogos are still not entirely worth it because of how inconsistent they are

but theyre definitely awesome and make the crest a lot better

[light swan]

i land 3/4 reaper spogos in this vid

[toxic vigil]

So this is activate circlet, pogo, circlet damages snd repeat?

[light swan]

yea pretth much

one spogo is just sawtooth > pogo

im dashing in between to keep up the chain

low-key this changes my pogo ranking a lot

reaper pogo might’ve went from 7th to 3rd

[strange knot]

I should play with cursed crest again, I found it rlly fun but never played with it after gms cursed

[light swan]

actually idk if it’s better than beast pogo but it’s definitely better than shaman and wanderer and maybe architect

[formal scroll]

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Hello

[exotic cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/301227786658381825/1485003418236878960/eye.gif

[raw pawn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/degisikhesabmis-gamevault-memevault-VOkpcujSu5L77ysRiD

[desert compass]

thanks to whoever sent this edit

[raw pawn]

Lmao

[crisp pier]

I just realized he must've beaten hornet for the dash

[raw pawn]

Wrong reply

Oh wait right reply

Left reply

[crisp pier]

U high

[raw pawn]

[exotic cedar]

Damn hollow knight was that cheap?

I thought it was more expensive

[exotic cedar]

A game that i will never play

[round pebble]

Cna someone help me find phantom because I have been in the mist for 3 FUCKING HOURS

[exotic cedar]

Do you have needolin?

[round pebble]

Yes

[exotic cedar]

Use it near the silkflies
They show you the path

[round pebble]

Ok

[royal wren]

play needolin near the fireflies

you NEED to follow them or else youll be trapped in the mist for the rest of eternity

unless youre really really lucky but you need luck similar to flipping a coin on heads god knows how many times

[weary sorrel]

John cheese

[obsidian delta]

i heard there was use of ai in the new dllls announncement

[weary sorrel]

The use of ai

🤖

[brittle spoke]

Hey

[obsidian delta]

is it rue the pic is ai? i sawa guy redrawing it claiming its ai

[timid plinth]

what pic

[weary sorrel]

beep boop bap

[obsidian delta]

in the recent announcement

ok ig dat explains it

[weary sorrel]

boop beep

[quasi night]

Wat no way team berries use ai

Cherries*

[timid plinth]

doesnt even look ai

[weary sorrel]

I can be the judge of that

[quasi night]

Omg its the diva

[obsidian delta]

idk lemme send link of dat short

[trim estuary]

this one? yea it is

[quasi night]

Have u tried using Ai check site like it will tell u if its real or it ai

[trim estuary]

its okay though ari trained the ai on his own art

[timid plinth]

idk i havent

[graceful cairn]

these sites suck

[quasi night]

Bro thats even from one of the silk skills icons I forgor which one but they just redraw it

[quasi night]

True but what are the other options

[graceful cairn]

eyeballs

ai shit is still identifiable

[obsidian delta]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YdTht9J62ZI?si=Ey7ehKs5Q2eudkBY

idk what going on lol

[weary sorrel]

how people describe the beastfly:

[obsidian delta]

dr nowhere mentioned

[weary sorrel]

Where

[obsidian delta]

OH HELL NAW

[obsidian delta]

here

[quasi night]

Why u hate it smh it aint ai ??? 😭

[timid plinth]

what am i looking at

[weary sorrel]

no there

[quasi night]

She's actually even more aura farming here

[exotic dome]

why would it be ai

[weary sorrel]

the thing

[weary sorrel]

ARE YOU AI?

[quasi night]

Ig ppl hate the cool things and call it ai for no reason

[obsidian delta]

desidereo mentioned

[quasi night]

Who dat

Anime???

[weary sorrel]

Mario?

[obsidian delta]

idk ppl are calling it ai tho so idk

lemme look close

[weary sorrel]

Yeah look closer

very closely

[graceful cairn]

why are we just lying now

[flat lynx]

now the second beastfly was hard but it was not that bad

[timid plinth]

who the hell are those people

[weary sorrel]

I fought both of the voidifyied and it took 2 tries each idk why some ppl complain so much abt it

[weary sorrel]

critics idk

[exotic dome]

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[timid plinth]

erm

[flat lynx]

like sure it wasnt entertaining but in terms of difficulty it was pretty mild compared to a lot of, even act 2, bossess

[weary sorrel]

THATS WHAT AN AI WOULD SAY

YOU AI

[obsidian delta]

nah im an ai student and digi artist. this looks way too real. ai generated pics are low resolution + this looks well drawn, i think ppl prolly made this assumption bc it looks too good

[weary sorrel]

THERES AN INPOSTER AMONG US

[weary sorrel]

I had a harder time with the last judge than beastflys

[flat lynx]

for REAL bro

[weary sorrel]

the first time I fought him was like 40-50 tries till I got him

[graceful cairn]

nobody in the history of the world has ever assumed that was ai you just fell for something someone with "(ragebaiter)" in their name said

[weary sorrel]

on my second run in like 2

[quasi night]

Sad void last judge was cut

[timid plinth]

the ragebaiter was ai

[weary sorrel]

yes, but are YOU ai?

[timid plinth]

noo

[weary sorrel]

hmm

not enough emotion ai

what an ai person man

[flat lynx]

icl i lowkey wished they kept the 3 mask damage for the last judge, its a good surprisingly punisher

[obsidian delta]

fr its obv real seeing the art, maybe that creator just wanted to grab attention thats most blikely

[flat lynx]

hell even making it one shot

[exotic dome]

guys is this ai

[weary sorrel]

In my opinion I think the mossmother should do 10 damage

hardest boss

void lace can’t compare

[quasi night]

I actually found the sketch sorta teaser team cherry posted when ss released so yeah its not ai

[quasi night]

FR LIKE WHY WOULD THEY CHANGE THAT

[timid plinth]

they only did the dlss 5 meme

[weary sorrel]

Can someone make an offbrand solksong by team berry?

That would be funni

[graceful cairn]

the person in the video you sent said absolutely nothing about that image being ai btw

[noble wolf]

You might get sued for copyright infringement if you do that

[obsidian delta]

omfg im an idiot lmao

[graceful cairn]

they were just drawing hornet

[exotic dome]

no 3 dmg attacks should have cool animations

[weary sorrel]

no like a fan game

but offbrand like

[obsidian delta]

ok my bad

[weary sorrel]

yk the like for example the temu version of a game

[still osprey]

are people saying the new key art is ai what are we doing anymore man

[flat lynx]

literally the WHOLE fight tells you to run away from smoke cus it calls for fire 😭 hell i think it would be better if it was one shot

[timid plinth]

like hollow knight

[weary sorrel]

like instead of the last judge you got “the first criminal” 😭

[graceful cairn]

everything is ai

[weary sorrel]

YOU are ai

[raw pawn]

hello night simpsong

[flat lynx]

yeah good point, but how would you animate the last judge dealing 3 masks unlike lace and gms

[graceful cairn]

yup

[quasi night]

Def and now u can just use magma bell and get 1 damage liek BRO why dis nerf 😭

[weary sorrel]

HE AGREES HES AI GET HIM

[flat lynx]

now wouldnt that be the first sinner