#sk-discussion
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So it was after the patch that I’m currently playing on.
I ask this since I wanted to know how strong my Sawtooth Circlet shenanigans are, and it seems that on the version I play on, Sawtooth does 13+1 (so 14) damage.
It’s crazy that my Sawtooth shenanigans could potentially be twice as potent if I updated my game.
why don't you
I want to milk the Scuttlebrace jump glitch for as much as I possibly can.
idk what that is but W
In older patches, you could do the Scuttlebrace dash into non-clingable Walls, and jump off of them like that.
It enables some really silly stuff like reaching the far ends of the Far Fields or Watcher at the Edge in Act 2.
oh cool
which of the 4 gauntlets of ckk is the hardest?
It’s what allowed me to beat Watcher at the Edge with only Snare Setters.
im finding the 2nd one the most difficult rn
is that it or does it get worse
Mount Fay is the game at its peak
Ha
It’s fun the second time when you aren’t scrambling for survival
You actually got the joke
GUYS
But fr tho, the area is peak
Third
i also think secind one is hardist
the third i almost firt tried it
Are you talking about the crest gauntlets?
i think hes talk about the coral tower
Oh
i think
Honestly the coral tower wasn’t that bad
I think it was just you had to do multiple without dying
Any tips on moorwing I'm lowk 32 attempts in I might js be absolutely horrible at this game fr tho
same
Also uh, I’m kind of afraid to get this silk heart at whiteward cause this dude is fucking scary
dont overextend and be careful with the toenail projectiles
but then the floor became lava
I’m on steel soul
Use the boomerang tool, it’s so good
didnt the patches nerfed it?
It’s good for flying enemies
i dont even think theres a strategy for beating him. it just somhow happend for me
Just stick to walls tbh
Where do I get that lol?
Cause he’s so quick on a small space
Charge attacks and cross stitch really help for that fight
the walls behind him?
Hunters march
Hunters march
One of the sellers in hunters march
Lowk might've been a mistake but silksong is my first hk game 💔
I did the same thing dw
And hunters march is hard to get through
I'll find it fr
Look in the marrow
The room with the shop is behind a hidden wall btw
i liked silksong better. hot take?
Got u I will
Same
I tried both and started silksong first
cold take, but i consider hk better personally
It’s more fun and the areas is top notch better than hk except godhome
(Albeit I literally haven’t gone past greenpath on HK and have 100%’d silksong)
cuz of nostalgioa? or just cuz better
I enjoyed Silksong better ngl
mainly story-wise, silksong falls off bad during act 3 and i dont think the writing is particularly spectacular
you shud go back and finesh it. its fun. i feel like 100% hk is just kinda tedious tho
i do consider sk to have better areas and combst
the runback is actually stupid in these dream stuff because after playing the nail we cant immediately jump
have to wait for hornet to get back up
ik act 1 and 2 the story was rlly good then act 3 eveyone just died or smthn
typically not
but lost lace was rlly good fight
i do kinda prefer hk in nearly every way though
sk has better areas and combat imo
I plan to
However silksong just feels so much more fun
exept for like CoT and like boss music and greenpath
genuinely act 3 is like a tumor it needs to be cut off
your pfp will be erased too
it has really good bosses but i just didnt like the darker, dead theme
I disagree
The devs really have to be fucking sadistic, man.
Act 3 thematically is really nice
fair trade for bargain made
I love the aesthetic
i didnt like the random gms screamin. everyhting else was good
However the content in it is uh
the story is really not good
I like it until I tried to beat Seth’s scores
It’s so distracting
ik im just enjoying the cute fleas and some random black lady is scremin
Cute fleas (and kratt)
Not it's just objectively true
I have played the game for 63.5 hours and I haven't found the ||last melody (Vaultkeeper's)|| yet. I died many times.
what abt the music. silksong is better
Did you not fight trobbio
i respect u for not using guides
I haven't fought him yet.
True tho
The novelty quickly weres off once you realize everything is mostly the same
theyre about equal, silksong just digs a bit deeper into the genre of music hk uses
Ah yea that makes sense you are fine
I did detours and other wishes.
New wormways is really cool
Uhhh
I did sometimes use guides.
omg these gauntlets are doable only with wanderer 😭
That’s kinda it
What gauntlets
i dont think anyone has used more guides than me
crust king
only good thing aboht act 3 is the old hearts and the shamans and even they feel a little half baked
Silksong has better progression and navigation. I lowkey didn’t like how the first one made me scramble for an hour just to find one thing.
I feel like act 3 just needs more
Fair enough
Me personally though i like using hunter and abusing the needle strike to spawnkill enemies
The idea is fine
And then getting a white charm from going to every area for a whispering root
Lost lace is a good fight for it to end and the old hearts are cool
But that’s THE ENTIRETY OF THE ACT
Y'all do the whispering roots?
oh no are we gono hav to listen to GMS screaming during sea of sorrow
LL is not a good ending for the game imo
We got no choice….
To get like 112% or a charm
boy there's literally 2400-2700 essence WITHOUT any roots
I think gms sacrificing herself for you to escape and save lace is nice
a third lace fight which is just lame, lace doesnt even like hornet i dont give a shit about her
Literally I think you play a different hollow knight cause I’ve already checked my alternates and methods
no the fight itself is amazing. idk about the story tho
Okay first do you know all the bosses
i do like 2 for dreamgate fuel
Lace needed more screen time though we really did just go from “maniac fencer” to “damn I should save her”
yes, I 112% the game
And did the godhome stuff
she didnt, she just doesnt do enough with what we were given
ik what was the change of heart from
Albeit hornet also prob just didn’t want to feel in debt to her
Since lace saves her
Name some bosses even tho it’s not the right channel
FUCK
hornet was one of the best hk characters despite her little screentime, lace just doesnt do it as well
IYICBIBI:CBIBSDIBC(IBC{BZO"BCBBSWCBBCBCSBHB"CBO"SCBO"SBC"OBCS'bCl'bCk'h sc ;d 'o
ok.
THERE IS NO WAY A HUMAN DESIGNED TS
Eh
- white defender (300)
- Lost kin (400)
- Failed champion (300)
- Soul tyrant (300)
- Grey prince zote (300. Missable)
- Marmu (150)
- Galien (200)
- Elder hu (100)
- Xero (100)
- Gorb (100)
- No eyes (200)
- Markoth (250)
CHATGPT CREATE THE WORST GAUNTLETS EVER
which one
Result ; the gauntlet at the start of act 3
Best*
(It’s not hard persay just evil)
If I have to 112% the game, all of that ain’t enough until you put whispering root on the equation
which fight are you complaining about… is it high halls…
all act 3 gauntelts took me soo long. prob cuz i beat the entire game with 2 nail upgrades
To collect 2400 essence
Especially because the 2x damage fans which only exists in 2 AREAS BY THE WAY.
crust king gauntlet 2 (entire) gauntlet 3(entire floor with corals part)
I love the crust king gauntlets
u got thins
I’ve done all the dream warriors and dream bosses
Literally if you don't fight zote you still get 2400
1100 from all warrior dreams (do the maths)
1300 from the dream rematches
Do I blame them for not being able to achieve such an undertaking? Not at all, we're talking about making layout changes and new enemy variants for the entire map
Do I think the vibe they were going for quickly goes away after you first meet the shamans? Yes 100%
Ya
You don’t get a specific number of essence in a boss, it still ranges, you realize I gone through the whole game to come to that conclusion
I fought Zote too
Act 2 is like the entire citadel which is such a huge experience with so much to explore and find
It is the same exact essence amount every single time
Even before the bell eater encounter (very good way to start off the act), the cidadel looks almost exacly the same outside recolored enemies
HOLY SHIT REAPER CREST IS SO PEAK
Act 3 simply just doesn’t come close to comparing
if not i want you to explain true ending speedruns
Silksong's story doesn't really tell anything. It's a collection of uncomfortable strangers forced into one room. What it does best in the whole jumble was depicting an abusive religion and the greed that caused everything's downfall, though ultimately with no satisfying end or conclusion to this theme. That's why Hollow Knight's narrative felt stronger. It tried to tell less but it had one cohesive theme.
What I would say if I was high
Which fair it’s a bit much to expect it to
Anyways I downloaded a mod that improves reaper crest and it's fucking peak
But the distance by which act 2 gaps act 3 is just smth
Espically with how hard it is to get to act 3
The charge attack is just mwah
Dream bosses have a specific amount and dream warriors range 100-250
With how the game forces you to explore so so much of the game and do a ton of stray quests and requirements
Just for it to truly not have half as much
And I honestlyyyy kinda disagree
on both fronts
I think the way to get act 3 itself is aomewhat fair the issue is there's no incidication at all of a secret third act or another way to defeat gms
raper is amazing
I’m still talking about 112% completion
I think the way to get there is fair
Yes.
And it's consistent for each one of them too
On your life you are saying if we pull markoth's wiki it will say 100-250 and not 250?
With mods yes
im crossin my fingers for expanded act 3 remembrance areas
My complaint is the reward simply doesn’t feel worth the effort
or just more act 3 stuff in total
Well actually that’s a poor way to put it bleh
Make me go through an entire Dream region for Karm and Khann pleaaaaase
But I think my point gets across regardless
Same
there is no fucking way this thing passed QA
relax
Make more areas for act 3
Why would I put it on my life. I go off what I saw
I have dropped my hatred, mods have showed me peak
go play some hell revealed to cool off
I could be wrong but I did everything in the game
!wiki Markoth
No I play Mio to cool off thanks much
Markoth is a Warrior Dream boss in Hollow Knight.
There could be such a cool bilewater past version
250 right there
or you couldnt just play it more than once and it would be peak
is it the left one?
!wiki No_Eyes
No Eyes is a Warrior Dream boss in Hollow Knight.
Think about it, bilewater before the citadel started dumping everything there
As a memory area
Yes
!wiki Marmu
Marmu is a Warrior Dream boss in Hollow Knight.
Dream Battle
──────────
Godmaster content Gods And Glory (Part A)
200/320/416/500/570
(Nail upgrades 0/1/2/3/4)
150 Essence
1
Female
Zara Pellen
Zara Pellen
Literally right there
then go play hell revealed to warm up
and burn
pretty please
I've thought that too but the issue is gameplay wise what would be there to challenge us
i promise you will hate it
That's why I live in Akalsa
Groal the child?
I guess I’m a lier since Ive done all the bosses and still had to get more essence for 2400
where else can you get that kind of guaranteed promise
I mean bilewater probably had its own civilization and stuff, probably had its own ruler and stuff (or maybe groal has been around that long)
it’s a steal of a deal
Idfk man maybe you straight up used dreamgate like freaking 400 times
Who knows
I never used it that much.
i was told to try crest optimizer and increase player damage to tune reaper a bit but those other mods seem interesting too
if you die you lose a tiny amount of dream essence each time

The only past of bilewater I could see being used for a challenge rn would be the pinstresses
There’s potential there imo
The reaper balance mod already does that
i need to see what happens if i turn up the amount of silk orbs reaper makes and pair it with arch neestrike
The dead pinstress can be found in putrified ducts
the default already makes so much silk
Now what I REALLY hope is for the pharloom P5 we get a fight against both pinstresses
I’d still get some back just from killing enemies, I was missing a whopping 450
it’s okay i’m lying
And I couldn’t get no more from bosses
Genuienly how 😭
Idk
Maybe one on the ground while one flies and throws stuff at us at a time?
Like throughout the game I would get the roots but still, even getting all that I was missing 10
I must of died a lot
My reaper:
Damage Increase:1,15×
Pogo:1,2×
Orbs fly towards you
Silk orbs give half a silk
They should make it so each Essence orb from a root gives you 3
Charged attack:the custom one
Range:1,7×
Damage:1,4×2
I'd like 90 essence from a root that feels fair
i thought you were number one reaper hater
My whole point though, I just didn’t like how it’s hard to figure out what you are doing without going on the wiki. Silksong more simple
Silksong has more hidden areas though, it’s frustrating
WHAT
I mean isn’t the point of a metriodvania is for you to have to truly explore though
I mean Silksong is the only one I’ve played sure but like
True
Orbs fly towards you sounds crazy
But there’s like hours of me wandering in circles
Silksong makes it easier with there being goals but also hides it in even worse places pretty much
I mean I found most things in the game without having to find a guide
That I cant get back. I’ve relied on hk wiki for almost every item
True
The one thing I had to Google though was the mask shards locations and spool locations
Woah there chill with the slurs
Also as for your problem are you sure all the bosses you fought where completed in the world itself?
I ended up with 5 mask fragments missing and 2 spool fragments and I was gonna lose it if I had to go through the whole map to find them
Yea, cause they would all show up at godhome
because you don't have to do fights like white defender and lost kin to unlock them in the pantheons
Was also missing a craft metal
And I’ve looked up everything too
Lucky son of a bitch
Is there any boss that you beat that doesn’t show up as a podium at godhome?
i might be cooked
Wdym?
Yeah, I had to look up a lot of things in Silksong. Didn't feel as immersive for that reason.
on 9th february 2026, i downloaded silksong just to prove to myself i can
it is now 24th march 2026. 83 hours later, i believe myself before i downloaded the game
i cannot 😭
Like yk how you can fight any boss in specific
They show up because you’ve defeated them
You can just not do the gauntlets btw
unless you are planning to skip one of the other 2 bosses
Well yes but some fights you don't have to fight them in the real world to unlock the pantheons
i still have karmalita and nyleth left to do on one hand
i just saw that first sprite ingame like 10 minutes ago why is it following me here too
If you don't fight lost kin in the overworld (base game) you still can do pantheon 4. However you don't unlock their statues until you meet them in the pantheons. Pretty weird
You can do it
I don't like it when metroidvanias hide items like Mario games hide their stars, it doesn't work for me, though obviously seems to work for others
you’ve got this aye it’s not a personal failing that a game is challenging you. it’s a video game, as long as you’re having fun that’s good and if you’re not havin fun do somethin else and come back later
wait a minute what are the 4 hearts? someone said one is optional
inb4 the “take breaks gamer” meme enters the chat
Well if you miraculously do beat those 2 you can skip krust king klann
I mean sure it’s fine to like take a break or decide it’s not worth it but likeee
gay ass dude
Just play what you find fun
Oh also ya
Don't force it
green prince?
such as MIO
Ya You can go rip out the gay depressed green man’s heart out instead
YES! No coral tower!
Mio mentioned
you cant escape birdly
Im talking about like. The bosses are available to fight again at godhome once you’ve beaten them already, I’ve gotten all the podiums unlocked do to the four pantheons. I’ve had to collect essence a different way so I can get the seer and beat the game.
i can’t wait to get back home after this trip and play games with my bf
well i first tried karmalita's gauntlet and even stunned her once on my first try i think she is easier
Hold ||glide|| to win simulator mentioned 🗣️
So peak
Use Chinese? 😭
if you say so
Chinese reaper
Ik it’s faster than English for speedruns
Final boss without dodging is still whooping me
I dont deny how much I can get from bosses but like, I still went through a crisis
But the idea playing in Chinese just naturally buffing reaper
still has skin because you can’t show bare bones in china
You ignored the pint of what I sent
aye i won’t ever ignore a pint
barebones% run
It's not easy, I'm not sure I possess the skill to do it rn
:p
Nah it's a Chinese mod so it starts in Chinese and I just forgor to turn it off
Evil ass crypto mining or smthing
REAL
is your computer being mined for dream essence
Nahhhh
I've gotten close but there are some attacks I still don't really know how to deal with
I was on Xbox, maybe they don’t like Xbox players
Such as?
Reaper just naturally gets stronger exculsively in Chinese
Glad none of the enemies in the gauntlet become black-threaded (imagine they did though)
How would that even happen
I can see the triple triple hit and swipe being hard w/o dodge
like most things
but like
Good luck then
Although nyleth took me the most attempts of the three i think coral tower is naturally the hardest
Also have you ever made it past the third gauntlet?
The one where it ||climbs on the side of the arena and slams its limbs on the ground before dashing across is the main one|| (Mio final boss spoilers)
Why is the 4th gauntlet easier than 2nd and 3rd
Because right after you go into klann he's like part of it
Because the boss is after it
Just get reaaally close to him there's a safezone. You can see it in my zoomed out video
And you can’t skip it
no i die when the flying spear dude comes in and you have to stick to the wall in the 3rd one
I'll check it out
i know theres a bench past the 3rd one but 😭
Clawline carry
Hollow knight silkeong 2
There's no bench bro it's a memory
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahh.
Fuck this guy in particular.
There are like a million counters to him but still
it’s time for more music
I recommend using silk spear or cross stitch
I think they mean dripstone
I see it thanks
here lemme go to #off-topic
dang i had a great run going and then I blocked instinctively 😔
me when the troll gets too spicy

You can also clawline spam the entire wave (or use needle strikes cuz they are GOATED)
i found it without oepning any hint
🎉
||the secret path||
Ah yes I see
Well, before you go clicking, all those tags are for different places to explore
So just come back to it if you get stumped again
thanks!!
Have fun in ||Vaults||
You can see his progress screenshots (map and inv) in #mio-general
General srry
Good thing it wasn't spoilers bro has no reason to be there
no way anyone still cares about this cheap story downgrade
I’m not gonna lie I went through the entire game with the hunter crest because I was too lazy to learn any of the others
This game sucks yea
My bad game tho
out
the what
are you illiterate?
im getting better at gauntlet 2 and worse at gauntlet 1
no so far i like the story and setting
downgrade to what
downgrade from what though isn’t it the first game
yea it’s the first game
what
there’s nothing to downgrade from
are you illiterate
tell me what a mio is pal
The game?
memories in orbit
a really good metroidvania we were talking about
I saw an advertisement for it a while back
then uou went and called it a cheap story downgrade
and then lace asked how it’s a stoey downgrade ajd you went for a pointless insult
I wasn’t talking to any of you
then who were you talking to
im talking about silksong
no need to cry pal i talked about silksong in a silksong server
talks about mio
someone else says it’s a story downgrade
questions
insults
are you just gonna keep saying this again and again when it doesn’t make sense
nobody was talking about some random ass game
are you illiterate
if me not knowing what mio meant didnt make it clear I wasn’t talking to you thats not my problem
no im aware you didn’t know what mio is
so why do you think I was talking to you
because you sent a message rifht after our messages about mio
besides lace was the one confused
i hope my left thumb (jump) and pinky (dash) forgive me someday for all the pain ive inflicted upon them
Im sorry king next time ill wait for your coversation that I didnt even see to end
you just decided to insult him for not understanding your unclear message
like what
u gonna cry pal
what makes you think i’ll cry
Honestly you are a downgrade to the story
interesting
why is everyone just sayin shit

Mountain out of a molehill
alaska
True
probably the fact youve asked me if im illiterate 4 times and yet are still butthurt about me saying it to someone else
i think
Hey hey can you shut up please thanks
who is this guy
are you illiterate
he's grynne
are you coming to the tree
guy who likes rocks
sometime soon
Oh boy don't get me started on rocks
we wont 
i love igneous rocks
I love all 3 kinds + glass too
goron
Metamorphic ones are the hardest to love but they're special too
youre the one who insults other people 🤷♂️ not my fault youre illiterate
isnt glass sand
Just leave it
nvm sand is crushed rocks
what was so insulting about a question
why :( it’s fun
Nah sand is quartz
why are you so butt hurt over me calling you illiterate bro
Crushed grainy quartz
im really not
looks like you are
Glass is just irregularly-crystalline mineral
how
manipulation tactics like yours stem from a desire for attention and lack of care
oh silksong was a story downgrade
is discord ever that deep
yeah that’s wrong
8th grade star
this is about your illiteracy not discord
same guy who’ll say im butthurt
true discord dweller

you are
same guy who was offended by hetting called illiterate 4 times
and tried to project themself onto others
offended how
Yeah Illusion's a bot
I really wish I did
just means youre illiterate
I mean have you seen dude using witch crest
yea ik i’m a tas you don’t need to tell me thrice
or maybe the fact that you haven’t elaborated on the accusation you’ve made 4 times 
you are tool assisted?
you aren’t understanding my messages tha makes you illiterate
i use a keyboard and mouse do those count
what is there to understand about a repeated baseless accusation
idk, youre the one who’s confused not me
confused butthurt and illiterate
that you can't read
looks like you are
you right now
LMAO
why are you so mad damn
primary school comeback
not that deep
it's true isn't it
chill
dont gotta be so butthurt about it
ive not used a capital letter this whole time I promise im not mad
I'm pretty sure you're all kids in like high school or smth you can't be saying this
passive aggressiveness is a prime example of manipulation
Only one of us was on the verge of tears 10 seconds ago
people typing on PCs do be doing that
you were the one saying “genuinely” 10 seconds ago idkk man
out of laughter
seems like it hit you pretty hard that uou had to be genuine
Whats wrong with the word genuinely lol
@brave geyser whats the argument about
true tho
theyre illiterate and butthurt and don’t wanna admit it
we saying shit now that's all
I asked someone if they were illiterate bc they didn’t understand my perfectly english chat and this guy got mad
well honestly i lost a lead on the argument but idk it's really fucking funny man
I didn't even send shit this time mane
so butthurt you gotta say im the one who’s mad
at the highest degree
your feelings were riled up to the point you had to be genuine about your messages
grown man fantasising about his combacks working
@graceful oyster
since when does hornet generate 3 silks
discord is not that deep
I'm so sad I have to go leave this theatre to go talk to my boss and make money at my job
Im riled up yet only one of us has sworn
it wasn’t my comeback
if you say so
more proof youre illiteraye
butthurt a swear word
read better nephew
aww
guys STOP, you're scaring the baby
fine
looks to me like youre the only one who’s said ass
I fixed reaper it's so peak now
yea youre right
@sleek garden maybe you’ll feel better after your nap
congrats, you ruined reaper
No I made it not mid
fuck games anyone got any movies to watch?
I ... was talking about... me 👉 👈 🥺
indiana jones trilogy
the recent god of wars are good movies too
hmm i havent watched any somehow
NGL gigglefarter is me but they said gigglefarter is inappropriate so I changed
how is it inappropriate?
Idk
the first game was better
yes
CLAWLINE IN COMBAT IS PEAK
because I couldn't beat the 2nd
Invalid argument
it really is
correct answer. Invalid argument
you get it
ive been converted
snitch pick user when
equip snitch pick now
well I could have but it wasn't good enough
aw
good cat
Ignore the radiance in the background
kill the sun
bwb have you progressed in any way in mio
cta
tac
no
acat
MIO SPOILERS: ||currently I've finished exploring crucible, and I've found the elevators to the library and the embedding room but stopped for the night before entering either||
yeaaaaaa did you like ||crucible|| i hope you did (MIO SPOILERS)
Very good platforming and I adore ||tomo|| also I found them in ||samsks hideout||
Wish i can join in on mio talks 
play mio fr
mobile player problems
btw why do you have hollow knight is hot ass in your display
moon i for one have a phone just about ready to give out and that's about it
there are some characters with really hot asses
ragebait
it works
ohh fun!!
I've been finding a lot of secrets just by exploring a ton. Anytime I don't know how to progress I just whittle away at my loose ends I've pinned on the map but couldn't figure out how to get past. Trying to avoid googling anything.
damn I was hoping it was genuine
It is kinda
well id say your track is fine so far
Yknow when something is so unbelievably ass and you hate it but you kinda can't stop coming back to it
youre good progressionwise, or at least where i'd expect you to be
godhome challenge running was the result of that but yknow
pantheon 5
see you get it
I was trying to replay hollow knight actually I got to fungal wastes in 2 hours and I got bored
Hollow knight is fun when sub 2 hour true ending icl
does that need glitches
and when you have a proper working brain
Only a shade skip to blue lake
you don't need QGA because of shade cloak
witch karmelita gameplay but im not running a bind build
do you use fury of the fallen constantly
Wow
Finding ||crucible and library were a fun challenge.|| Neat puzzles and platforming to uncover.
for speedruns you like never use fury at all
you don't even get it
dangit
wish there was more useful blue tools, cant believe i have to use longclaw and volt filament rn
My instinct in so many cases is to pogo cause every crest would just pogo and on beast you just get hit for it
Do you use chud stone in speedruns
shaman stone?
the thing with hk speedruns (especially true ending) is that your spells out do your nail very easily
Shachud stone
what I thought it was the other way round
It is but pure nail needs 6 pale ores and 7050 geo
ohhh
you know what you need for the best spell in base game?
Shaman abyss shriek?
vengeful spirit I’m guessing
A nice solid 1080 which soon turns into 880
gottal earn how to use sharpdart man
Keyword base game
When is star of providence getting updated
also not really the best but really good
Not to mention the damage doubles AND it can double hit with shamman
actual cheat code not joking
Both those things are in the base game no? Unless base game means a different thing in this context.
wait I’m confused is this flukenest
they are but one is way easier to get and does a shit ton of damage considering how early you get it
No shamman shade soul double hits are pretty common
40~80 damage
oh you have time to beat soul warrior
soul warrior is optimal for true ending
Shaman stone strength and quick slash are the paragons of poor charm balance
that's how good shade soul is
Shamans the worst offender for how early it is
Then again mio also has a similar issue
dont forget the best charm dreamshkled
I gotta admit though just vspirit with shamman is so mice
“we have a plethora of charms to collect throughout your journey! but you get the two best ones in the first 3 hours”
no but you can use like 20 mods in a good build
while in hk you can use 4
holy
maybe its more like 10 or 15
Yeah but shairpin being where it is is similar to how early and game changing shaman is
my beloved
shairpin is also like kingsoul
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What’s your guys’ favorite area in the game visually? Mine is Mount Fay
visually? sands of karak
cradle
Bilewater
unlike shaman stone which is the same strength which is the same price as other 3 charm notches
Far fields
Second favorite
Easily high halls
and unlike in hk, there are a LOT of good mods
so it really doesnt matter in the end
I really find Firefly boring af in mio
moss grotto
Shamans itself isn't op spells are
firefly was one of my favorite mods
What does it do
In pantheons where enemies get fixed hp yea
but have you ever tried getting shade soul as soon as possible and slapping shamman stone on that bad boy
Aoe damage when holding glide. But you can do attack combos while gliding
It's kinda like a less cool sawtooth
it seems like a very simple spell but is actually so broken
suppose a speedrunner never got hit and overcharmed fury and shaman stone, would that be optimal
bird of prey is my favorite mod and its similar to firefly, just cooler to use
me when i shade soul markoth and get a triple hit
maybe? Idk if bots don't pick it up then it's not worth it (possible misinfo?)
Hate to say it but wisp thicket
I thought y'all were talking about HK mods
5 → 8
wisp thicket is cool and creepy
Actually maybe overcharmed soul catcher shamman is better
Hunter's March is a close second
Flukenest gets a little crazy
ok soul catcher getting use make me happy
More spell dumping slop baby
TC for some reason randomly decides whether .5 gets rounded down or up for shit like choose 
Naaah nah March isn't that good nvm, I just like Skarr
goes to the nearest even number iirc
The benefit of spells being op over red tools being op is that spells are actually fun to use
but yeah it’s crippling for a lot of attacks
..are you-what
Far fields is great it has ants and great aesthetics
0.5...is in the middle there's no nearest number
but the even number
i like ants
Too green
Which
I'd be more concerned if you didn't considering your name
the nearest integer that also becomes an integer when divided by 2
Explain that in damage numbers
sands of karak is so awesome man
what's 75%+ of 5
1
lidemi.
XD
it has potential
3.75
So 8 total?
hang on then why the FUCK does it round down
wait does it or does it not iam very confused
Strength is 50%
@light blade bro what the fuck
awww start of a great karmelita fight
as I was saying, in silksong, if dmg ends in a 0.5, it will round to the nearest even number
for example 30.5 will round down to 30 and not 31, because 31 is not even
btw all 3 hits landed but i didnt get health back lol
Oh furry
wat
Fury
Fast
thats why witch pogo is 10 + 12
That hit was painful
due to silksong shitass rounding snitch pick clawline sometimes only deals 2 more dmg than a regular needle hit
(the actual snitch pick hit dealt 4)
wait what
Such a weird choice to make all nail damage not even...like why
who tf died right after reading the judgement sign 🥀
it was against an enemy with a dmg modifier
is this clawline or witch dash
that looks like a statue
Why did TC choose 5,9,,13,17,21 and not 10,18,26,34,42 the fuck
its a petrified corpse
pogo
Like why

witch dash is 21 10 10 which makes sense
holy shit this fight makes me feel sweaty as fuck
a better idea is to multiply every value by 100 so that we don’t have to round so much
Chat do we like a nice lobster tail or a good crab leg better
also why does this go from 18 to 24, that’s an increase of 6 when the others are 8
that stagger clawline was CRAZY i wouldve died bro
It's 1 am sybau

what's everybody's favorite tool of the red category?
straight pin
Empty
fay silkshot
Longpin
The empty flea bottle
im trying to clalwine more on witch and its so worth it
Nah I like flintslate
for myself its probably the stingshard/ but all choices are great!
What about the blue tool slot?
someon e remind everyone else that snitch pick is aweosme
I wish we could get stilkin darts as red tools
stick in enemies or walls and explode after some time
snitch pick I love clawline therefore I love snitch pick snitch pick snitch pick I love increased clawline dmg I love staggering bosses more often I love closing gaps I love sawtooth circlet tech snitch pick snitch pick snitch pick
wait this is like voltvessels stake
imma have to go for multibind and injector band
i think sawtooth circlet is funnest
what about yellow tools?
barbed bracelet
theres no better answer than barbed bracelet
DICE
oh man second sentinel is still no matter what my favorite boss in the gmae
no matter how much i play it or when i paly it
they’re beautiful
minor complaint i wish there was a better theme than the choir
the choir isnt bad but it doesnt compare to the goats of act 3
I dont get how you land so many hits and he doesnt die faster
do you think lace killed any of the sentinels
in pantheon of pharloom mod the hp is buffed based on needle
if she managed to kill one, it would be extremely exhausting and she’d be unlikely to try it again
oh this is the mod
is it done well
the mod is good yeah
idk, lots of wandering around
average wanderer user
what on earth could be the reason for all the other sentinels to have died and collected in this one particular room
lasce killed them
not all at once I hope
Holy that was awful I hate it
ggs !!
Albiet I damn sure do feel better at beast crest
why not wouldnt that be auraful
she’d get hurt
sentinels are the strongest of the citadel’s army force
what if she did it wihtout a scratch
Bellbeast is a Silverfish
maybe shes just too strong
she’s a giant isopod
Once I beat gms I can call beast crest only a success 🔥
no
go beat lost lace
do path of pain with beast crest
And decided to add beast only for 1 and 2
yo
can hornet do path of pain?
I forgor
I think she gets hitbox diffed
Tbf so much of silksong parkour is just “can you crawline”
oh yeah how can I get the voltvessal bola version
There’s so little in silksong where you can’t solve via Clawline
sit at bench press x i think or ur dash button
Welp
Time to do lace 2 and gms
And then I’m going to go get witch crest for the entire rest of act 2
why are you on 5 masks and why are you on beast crest
its funner that way
ngl I wanna try beast crest only
cursed crest is possible in act 3 right
we all know who the mvp was in this fight
Though icl
@sharp slate rate my wanderer gp
Curve claw puts in more work then beast crest
Is it possible to hit the levers on the top/bottom side of the Choral Chamber wheel and enter the wheel before it closes? It feels like something that should theoretically be possible, but I’m not sure if it is or not.
should i try with flintslate
This is because curve claw is fucking awesome
i dont think it is
bro how am I supposed to get the rune harp in weavenest cindril the far fields one
Dang…
Silkspeed + flea brew
no and i think this is shit
Flea Brew + Anklets
I wonder how much easier lace 2 becomes post doing lost lace
I mean the secret room
Time to find out ig (not like lace 2 was hard originally)
Yeah, Flea Brew + Anklets, then dash across all the panels.
thamk you I already did it
Ah, alright.
XD
parry lace with cross stitch 
i went to a construction store
they said gravel is 10 cents a pound
i said &
@sharp slate
I saw that dang yellow donut shape and my dumb ahh went "parry pad!!!"
I need to get a job
LOL
ts lowk mad funny when you think about it
Oh wait I already have one
I need to touch grass
Oh wait it's all covered in snow
Lace 2 done second try
this fight is so good man
I genuinely got caught lacking I didn’t expect her to be able to parry beast
never will i doubt how much i like second sentinel
Cause yk No other enemy in the game can…
it’s so nice having the time to just hop on silksong and play a bit
Can I have some
I keep using my weekends to rest and then I get punished for it because everything expects me to use my weekends
Pause button please!
my friend i JUST got some time 😭
saturday i was at school from 6 am to 9 pm
sunday i was doing my actual school work from morning to night
from eye to heart
it does
I say this knowing full well exactly how and why it sucks
for some reason in my 6th grade they had me learning 8th grade math bro
divert your mind from school and onto the mod very epic cool mod
i cant call myself a multicrester at the rate im going
guys whats the worst runback? dont say groal challenge
my favorite part of wanderers is the sprint attack where it flings you in the air its so fun
it is fun
def shakra
... its one room
are you finding these on architech or are those standalone?
unfortunately it’s really bad so it feels bad to use
Lost Lace for sure
this is kinda sick wait
hmm
i’d say karmelita or khann are up there
prob summoned saviour idk
lost lace is also up there but it’s not as bad for me
I'd rather do Groal's runback than watch a minute of cutscenes
nah khann is fun
And listen to the same dang music
i honestly dont mind that one, the forced few seconds to breathe kept me from losing my mind with her lmao
silk soaring for 50 minutes
me and a team of other people made this bruh
after the long ass elegy cutscene
what
the test is on architect tho
Elegy is awful
does the gauntlet count as runback
i think its legit only that 1 room
I TAKE BACK EVERY BAD WORD IVE EVER SAID ABOUT BEAST CREST
Genuinely just in every way needolin is worse than dnail
those words better be bad
last time i played yes
altough i didnt get to use the shortcut
Every way except that it's fun to play music
fr i love invading random peoples privacy
so idk how the feel is for that
I just ONE SHOTTED high halls gauntlet with beast crest
I'm geeked
yooooo thats a w
I ain't ever beaten hhg ALONE before I've always needed shakra
ill probably try learning the pogo for lost lace
beast crest downslash doesnt feel like a downslash
khanns runback is even worse then because im bad at gauntlets
why is it so horizontal
its horizontal but at least it hits things below you
not if u did a full jump
beast pogo plug
Beast pogo is going to make me distort
try and do it like me without using movement keys
its a fun challeng
shaman is a goated crest i should main it
now do it with architect
sad that u cant even get it until the end of the game
Gms is actually not thattt much of a joke with no pogo and 5 hearts and no tools wow
i wish it was a late act 2
they should honestly add a setting in to pick a crest to start with once you've 100%'d the game or like at the same time as when you unlock steel soul or when you get sylphsong
reaper plug
even cursed crest is easier than bro
first time i did it with architect, ill redo it rn actually i have time
the failed parry 🙁
i think i tried to silkshot
I'm blue
void is not blue brodie
Doesn't get references, -1 point to sk disc
all float damage gets rounde to int right?
da ba dee da ba di