sk-discussion

[steep wadi]

actual fever dream

[light swan]

ok real shit

[odd hull]

What 1 second without talking about mio does to a person

[earnest drift]

do you think it ever crossed lace’s mind to try capturing hornet to deliver to gms and take credit for being the one to wake her up

instead of killing hornet so she can’t wake gms up

[upper trail]

i honestly hate you first sinner, i got faked out by her second phase.

soul master all again

[earnest drift]

I’m on a black and white filter so I can’t see the colour of the hair but is this hatsune mio

[light swan]

yes

[odd hull]

true

[exotic dome]

hastune mio

[steep wadi]

is that fuckin hatsune mio

[light swan]

with pickles

[opaque sigil]

my only question is why the pickles

[light swan]

dont forget pickles

[earnest drift]

pickles taste good

[light swan]

pickle mio BEAMMMMMMMM

[exotic dome]

why does she have 3 pickles

[lavish apex]

why does she have pickles

[exotic dome]

why not 4

[opaque sigil]

this explains nothing

[lavish apex]

back to haar

[opaque sigil]

yup

[light swan]

explain this 👊 💥

[opaque sigil]

ow

[light swan]

good game

[steep wadi]

why are you spiderman colored

[upper trail]

why are you on a black and white filter

[earnest drift]

trying to cure my dopamine addiction

[light swan]

things just keep getting better

[earnest drift]

so why doesn’t lace fight you in blasted steps/sinner’s road/the citadel

[light swan]

she wasnt ready

[upper trail]

actually a good idea

[steep wadi]

cuz shes a pussy bitch

[lavish apex]

currently listening to Pearl: The Heart

[earnest drift]

is she hoping hornet will give up on her painful journey and she won’t have to kill her (because she’s not strong enough)

[lavish apex]

again

[light swan]

currently listening to FRIENDs

[earnest drift]

because otherwise she only fights hornet right before she reaches gms

but if the citadel were to capture hornet then gms would take her power and wake up

would Lace interfere again

[exotic dome]

currentky listening to my fav mio track blood brothers by iron maiden

[lavish apex]

idk if i've even heard an iron maiden song

i mean probably in passing like on a radio or something but i couldn't name what or when

[mental snow]

I was thinking about how funny it is Traitor Lord's contact damage doesn't even deal 2 masks and the fuckin 4th enemy we ever encounter deals 2 masks of damage with both contact and attack, and that made me think, why the fuck does contact damage (when we WALK into an enemy) deal 2 masks at all?

[light swan]

this is gonna be so good when i finish it

[exotic dome]

it's normal if you are not into metal music

[light swan]

1:14/5:27

[mental snow]

It's not normal, however, to be unironically accused as a devil-worshipping satanist by people if you just listen to it

[lavish apex]

i am but like mostly new shit

[earnest drift]

I know Lace is sadistic but this feels like a bluff
she’s seen how strong hornet is, and is hoping she’ll give up reaching gms before Lace has to step in

[lavish apex]

or more esoteric heavy stuff

[light swan]

why is this song so long

[exotic dome]

lmao

[light swan]

why did i decide to make a level to a 5 and a half minute long song on one of the busiest weeks in my life

[crisp heron]

I have a genuine theory for sea of sorrow release date

2026

[exotic dome]

tomorrow

[light swan]

try again, not genuine enough

[mental snow]

Deltarune?

[exotic dome]

seaof tomorrow

[crisp heron]

sea of yesterday

[mental snow]

Aw man..

[lavish apex]

i hope you can do the visuals

[light swan]

i can and i might

[hardy tangle]

silksong

[light swan]

people already want me to make a collab around mio

[mental snow]

Y'know, the fact that it's called the Sea of SORROWS makes me wonder if Sherma's gonna drown

[rotund gate]

Green trobbio

[graceful oyster]

Because it's a conglomeration of all the different ingame layers

[light swan]

and theres already people who already wanna sign up

[exotic dome]

mio if it was good

[light swan]

i dont know if i want to decorate a 5 minute long level

it took me 2 years to decorate a 1 minute long level

[earnest drift]

how the fuck did you come to this thought

[light swan]

and 1 year to decorate a 2 minute long level

half a year to decorate a 4 minute long level maybe

[mental snow]

Well because it's a sea
And short people drown

[earnest drift]

true

[light swan]

i agree with you

pickle mio beam

[broken seal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736153071218065508/1438873440869290095/shermaquest-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[mental snow]

When you're doing your 20th steel soul run and you know the exact amount of Rosaries you should have if you didn't miss that 1 fucking Rosary that fell in the spike pit 5 minutes ago

[broken seal]

MiO is on sale for Switch apparently

[broken seal]

skill issue lowkey

[mental snow]

True

[light swan]

The Hollow Kight

[exotic cedar]

Damn even ji plays mio

[light swan]

well

[exotic dome]

steam too

[hardy tangle]

ilk ong

[light swan]

i just talk about mio a lot

why does bro have shii lined up what is bro gonna do to shii

[rotund gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-random-mickey-mouse-gif-3326933426856018167

[exotic cedar]

Lol

[rotund gate]

I forgot i lost my image perms

[hardy tangle]

noob

[mental snow]

I honestly don't like the Bell Beast fight.

[manic valley]

https://youtu.be/9MBLHvmpXqU?si=anquddEzLK5Y3ags

[rotund gate]

the fight is an actual joke you are NOT alone 😭

[light swan]

bell beast ended my steal sol run

[rotund gate]

How

[light swan]

are you questioning me

[rotund gate]

Oh is it because it deals 2 damage

[mental snow]

Like if you're not paying attention, you take 2 hits and that's it, you're basically fucked

[light swan]

do you know who i am

[mental snow]

Also it's just so slow

[exotic cedar]

It killed me on speedrun

[exotic dome]

bell best ended my steer sour run too

[rotund gate]

no

[light swan]

i am z.... ruler of this world....

[brave geyser]

"im just too good no one can compare" sure

[mental snow]

Like deadass the most uninteresting Boss Fight

[light swan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdXhhNzFqNm1rY3k2Z3kzcDlpaTNoYzNldDFxaG10ZGw3azRxcjh2NyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/G4stuCXC4GQ56ltCwd/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[earnest drift]

bell beast is surprisingly complex for a beginner boss

[mental snow]

"I'm so good at this game, these early boss fights kill me because they're too slow for me"

[earnest drift]

how many attacks does she have, 4?

[rotund gate]

Voltwyrm

[mental snow]

Bells, thrust from the middle, jump and run

Yup, 4

[mental snow]

Voltwyrm has interesting patterns and mixes it up

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/second-sentinel-ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-gif-14144986572548286793

[exotic dome]

its a good beginner boss

[earnest drift]

massive moss charger if it was better

[exotic cedar]

Lmao

[earnest drift]

what interesting patterns it has 2 attacks

[light swan]

what beginner boss doesnt have 4 attacks

[exotic dome]

perfectly cut gif

[rotund gate]

Dawg 😭

[earnest drift]

moss mother vengefly king gruz mother

[mental snow]

The fuckin patterns of its attacks, dawg

[light swan]

oh bad bosses i see

[earnest drift]

what patterns
they’re all the same

[light swan]

mio's first boss has 5 attacks and teleports

as well as mixups in phase 2

[mental snow]

My guy, are we even talking about the same boss

It mixes up the patterns as the fight goes on
Yeah it's nothing special, but it's still a mixup

[earnest drift]

ok maybe I didn’t notice because I spammed voltvessels on voltvyrm

I’ll check its bossfight again

[mental snow]

Nah that's fair lmao

[graceful cairn]

sea of sorrow tomorrow

[light swan]

is this why mio is the best game of all time

[earnest drift]

using voltvessels against voltvyrm is one of the most confusing things ever

[copper hedge]

sea of tomorrow

[earnest drift]

you start dodging your own attacks

[light swan]

does lace 1 even have this much awesomeness

[graceful cairn]

sea of tomorrow sorrow

[exotic dome]

see of rorrow

[light swan]

tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow... time creeps at this PETTY pace.....

[mental snow]

Time to strip these pilgrims' clothes (for the quest)

[exotic cedar]

I like a boss that makes me stuggle

[lavish apex]

egis is better than moss mother and bell beast like for sure

[copper hedge]

man i miss the time i was able to make lace in the first lace fight fall into the lava when staggered 3 times in a row

[light swan]

burger king vs lettuce and ground beef

[exotic dome]

[graceful oyster]

I adore fighting egis

[exotic dome]

hyrdogen bomb vs coughing baby

[graceful oyster]

Never a chore

[light swan]

i beat egis first try it was the funnest thing ever

how does the game get so good at the very first boss

[copper hedge]

who's egis

[rotund gate]

Lace except with a gun

[light swan]

the burger king

[exotic cedar]

Mio boss in pretty sure

[rotund gate]

lace except absolutely nothing is different

[graceful oyster]

Burger king

[earnest drift]

ok yeah voltvyrm has two attacks that vary considerably

[copper hedge]

whats with kurger bing

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327669725614051410/1398935213500796938/Geometry_Dash_2022-08-28_07-06-39-1-1-1-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[earnest drift]

a better uumuu

[exotic dome]

thoughts on the washing machine boss

[light swan]

DONT INTSULT umuu like that

[light swan]

bottom 2 boss

[copper hedge]

which level is this

[light swan]

amazing theme

[rotund gate]

hollow knight silksong except there is absolutely nothing wrong and all of the people got along (GMS, the weavers, khann, karmelita, green prince, nyleth)

[light swan]

awesome concept

[exotic dome]

im mot alone good

[lavish apex]

lace 1 is very good tho idk

[graceful cairn]

lace takes 11 hits to stagger btw

[light swan]

the best way to play the fight is to skip phase 2

[earnest drift]

jimmy get me a silksong with nothing

[lavish apex]

all the lace fights are great

[light swan]

deteriorated minds

i mean thanatophobia

[exotic dome]

lace is goated overall

[copper hedge]

ah..

[light swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PClYRMzE6c

[copper hedge]

oh right. have you heard of another dumb buff in kocmoc unleashed

[graceful oyster]

Perfect boss design, in practice not the most fun to fight. A tier.

[copper hedge]

that shit's not getting rated fr

[light swan]

i agree with this

[exotic dome]

i disagree

[light swan]

i dont keep up with this stuff

[graceful cairn]

F tier boss fr

[copper hedge]

i keep seeing it in the subreddit so yeah.

atp they should make it invisible

[light swan]

concept? S tier
gameplay? B tier
overall? A tier

[mental snow]

Magnetite Brooch = Best yellow

[light swan]

washing machine has the benefit of being relaly fun outside of the boring spinny phases

[earnest drift]

barbed bracelet

[mental snow]

I'm bad at dodging so you're wrong because I have skill issues

[copper hedge]

[graceful cairn]

gameplay is booooring

[light swan]

washing machine has the benefit of being relaly fun outside of the boring spinny phases (x2)

[lavish apex]

are we talking about (mio) ||atmos?||

or ||vlad||

[exotic dome]

50% of the fight

[light swan]

WE ARE TYOUUUOUOUU

[graceful cairn]

nah even out of those I just didnt find it fun

[lavish apex]

if the latter then i agree it was probably my least favorite

[light swan]

theres only one washing machine boss

[graceful cairn]

worst fight in the game imo

[light swan]

yep

[exotic dome]

the other 50% is i throw spikes and you will dodge

[mental snow]

Hey what's the name of the fly enemies that have the pinchers

Not the mossfly or beastflies

[exotic dome]

this and fuckass flower are bad. others are decent

[light swan]

i think the "i throw spikes you dodge" is fine as a starting concept because i really loved playing "the floor is lava" while dancing around spikes and lasers

[graceful oyster]

No that's pearltrap

[graceful cairn]

kinda boring but I enjoy it

[light swan]

but then spinning starts and its butt

[graceful cairn]

dumbass washing machine just super sucks

[graceful oyster]

You're building the ground hazards for the upcoming "platforming challenge"

It's genuinely an excellent concept

[light swan]

why do yall keep spoiling boss names

[harsh yarrow]

mod testing

[light swan]

use names that mean nothing like Cute Fuckass Flower or Washing Machine

[exotic dome]

it's only cool in concept imo

[light swan]

or pearltrap

[graceful oyster]

True Idk why they decided to just drop the tags

[light swan]

exactly

[exotic dome]

edited it

[light swan]

waiting on you!

[exotic dome]

anyways it's still better than "plasmified zango"

[harsh yarrow]

basic plan is that it replaces tolls requiring roseries with requiring needolin attunement

[light swan]

plasmified zangy would be a fun boss

[graceful cairn]

zango is stupid and dumb

[exotic cedar]

A proper plasmium boss would be so cool

[mental snow]

I like going through Hunter's March to get Dash because it's the objectively better path

[void moat]

how much does mio cost i might buy it

[light swan]

its on sale rn

[exotic dome]

it's on sale rn

[light swan]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jinx-arcane-68

[mental snow]

And no that's not ragebait, it's my own shitty opinion

[void moat]

✌️

[graceful oyster]

It's $16

[mental snow]

When AI Overview locks in (it's so cooked)

[exotic cedar]

AI overview 😭

[graceful oyster]

$14 if you own Dead Cells

[potent ingot]

mio is peak

[graceful cairn]

we should all own dead cells

[void moat]

whys it discounted if you own dead cells? is it made by the same creator

[light swan]

this guy understands humanity's purpose

[exotic dome]

silksong and mio went on sale at the same time. team cherry copies mio

[exotic cedar]

Truth nuke.

[graceful oyster]

Also @void moat did you see Simo's response to your voiceover aspirations

[void moat]

no??

[potent ingot]

thank you

[light swan]

they collabed, its a bundle

[void moat]

huh???

[graceful cairn]

theres a bundle I think

[exotic cedar]

Dead cells collabs with ANYTHING

[graceful oyster]

It's a bundle, extra 10% off if you already have the first half

[light swan]

mio also collabed with constance

[potent ingot]

constance is also peak

[graceful oyster]

Yes, but Constance sucks so I don't expect anyone to have it

[graceful cairn]

peak and mid 🥹

[void moat]

that's pretty cool actually

[exotic dome]

i only tried the demo

[potent ingot]

no gng, its peak

trust

[light swan]

hi blueyyy

[exotic cedar]

I saw one boss and it looked lame

[copper hedge]

@light swan if u wanna know about those dumb buffs in that level

[graceful cairn]

map exploration in constance was really boring to me but some of the bosses were fun

[void moat]

just for clarification, mio's a good game right

[graceful oyster]

#sk-discussion message

[dawn needle]

Someone help me figure out if I am accidentally pirating Silksong.
-Got the game from gamepass
-Used thunderstore mod manager for mods
-Gamepass ran out meaning I no longer "own" silksong
-I can STILL play using the manager

[light swan]

yea

[graceful oyster]

Excellent

[light swan]

is this a random big particle moving in the level or actually just a black circle

[copper hedge]

black circle

💔

[void moat]

alright ill buy it then

[light swan]

yea lets just defenestrate this game

[void moat]

is it any similar to silksong in terms of gameplay? and is the lore any good

[light swan]

i was the only good thing to come out of geometry dash 💔

[copper hedge]

arcshadow click pattern test 💔

[graceful cairn]

the lore is peak...

[dawn needle]

Someone tell me please
I do not want to be accidentally pirating a game

[light swan]

its got my 2nd favorite video game story of all time so yes the lore is peak

[opaque sigil]

it's a metroidvania but the focus is different, it's more platforming oriented

[light swan]

its a metroidvania so its obv gonna be similar

but its deifnitely not a copy paste

[graceful oyster]

Lore is amazing if you dig scifi and the exploration is better than HK games imo

[light swan]

combat ofc is my favorite part of the game but i know im unpopular in that regard

[dawn needle]

especially cause it's an indie game from great devs and not a triple a game from greedy devs

[copper hedge]

no clue

[graceful oyster]

Did you pay for the game?

[dawn needle]

I paid for the gamepass subscription that gave me the game.

Not the game itself

[trim estuary]

you have technically cracked the game yes

[light swan]

twenty seven

[dawn needle]

oh.

[copper hedge]

damn

[dawn needle]

Imma check something rq

[trim estuary]

i did this with undertale

[graceful oyster]

If that subscription ran out you no longer have the license to play it. You are technically pirating yes.

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414372897109573643/1446810033332424756/speechmemified_0P9kEQQ-1.GIF

[copper hedge]

so.... modding basically breaks gamepass?

[exotic cedar]

Woooo ooo oooo oo o oo o story about undertaleee

[dawn needle]

oh.

uh oh.

[graceful cairn]

[void moat]

ic, ive never really played a more platforming oriented metroidvania despite the celeste hype

[void moat]

id definitely be open to trying one though

[graceful oyster]

It's fun

[mental snow]

I really wish the Wanderer pogo bounce was more rewarding distance-wise because fuck man, that covered distance is NOT good lmao

[light swan]

its platforming oriented because the game has better platforming

[void moat]

i wont force you but if you feel compelled to do it i wont object 👀

[opaque sigil]

pretty much

[dawn needle]

I didn't even do anything to make myself able to play except see if I was able to
It just let me

[vale whale]

hornet blindly shaman cresting through hordes of newborns and innocents: (hit thread storm button for big explosion)

[mental snow]

I love bullying the Skarr Guard with Wanderer's Crest

[exotic cedar]

I fucking love this image

Humanity is so great

[light swan]

ew

bullying. i hate bullying

[exotic cedar]

Let's all be friends

[copper hedge]

murder ❤️

[light swan]

yea :D nothing to worry about

[exotic dome]

friendship > murder

[copper hedge]

Hornet befriends the entriety of Pharloom and even GMS (friendship ending)

[exotic cedar]

Silksong if it was good

[exotic dome]

silksong if it was bad

[earnest drift]

silksong if it was awful

silksong if it was hollow knight

[mental snow]

Reminds me of one of my school assemblies back in Junior year. It was meant to be about bullying in schools.

They literally just showed dudes doing stunts off of skateboards and scooters the entire time.

[copper hedge]

silksong if it was mid

[graceful oyster]

If Silksong was bad it'd have 7 crests and 100% completion percentage and 4 endings and-

[exotic dome]

silksong if it was <any opinion>

[copper hedge]

silksong if it was owned by EA

[odd hull]

ew

[mental snow]

cough 3 endings

[graceful oyster]

Sorry mb

[exotic dome]

erm 4 actually

[graceful oyster]

No just 3

[exotic cedar]

erm its actually 5

[mental snow]

Right, Mushroom Man

[earnest drift]

5 endings because hornet can die in steel soul

[graceful oyster]

Mr Mushroom is an extra cutscene not an ending

[earnest drift]

6 endings to account for soft locks (if there are any idk)

[exotic dome]

weaver queen, twisted child, snared silk and sister of the void

[exotic cedar]

What about the friendship ending

[copper hedge]

oh right yes

[graceful oyster]

Okay fine whatever we'll count snared silk

[earnest drift]

7 endings

[copper hedge]

cut ending

[earnest drift]

so it’s agreed silksong has 8 endings

[exotic dome]

i brought this up just to disagree

[copper hedge]

wait what about strung to serve

[exotic dome]

brother of the plasmium ending

[earnest drift]

I wish this wasn’t cut

[finite swift]

Looking back at Hornets hit order "Full chamber to the WHITE WYRM", this implies there are other colour worms

[earnest drift]

add an option to give up after being killed by gms

[terse cloak]

skong

[rocky jolt]

yes theres a blackwyrm mentioned in hk

[copper hedge]

RGB WYRM 🥹

[odd hull]

Pink wyrm when

[finite swift]

so, why not a yellow wyrm? More like... a king in yellow...

[terse cloak]

that is all i have to say, goodbye for the night

[terse cloak]

HAH

[earnest drift]

voltwyrm

[finite swift]

my art btw

[odd hull]

🔥

[void moat]

lace has prey eyes

[exotic cedar]

lace has eyes

[odd hull]

Hollownest, voltnest.

[copper hedge]

lace has

[earnest drift]

because they’re on either side of her head?

[void moat]

lace

[finite swift]

lace is a BITCH

[terse cloak]

laces eyes face from the front though, clearly a predator

[earnest drift]

Beautiful
Inspiring
Triumphant
Charismatic
Harmful

[void moat]

sub 5 secondary protagonists mysteriously related to the main character at the start of the game which, after a fight you slowly start to understand and become well acquainted ✌️

[broken seal]

Harmful

[mental snow]

I find it funny how they updated Pibb dropping 50 Rosaries to 55

[earnest drift]

reminder that Lace is the reason heaven is dead

[fleet zinc]

Ok so I know mt fay is possible in act 1, is there any possible way to get into the citadel in act 1? Or does the citadel itself trigger act 2

[copper hedge]

dayum

[earnest drift]

cringe ai roleplayer

[void moat]

ohhh right i forgot that site existed i was gonna try it out earlier today but i forgot

[copper hedge]

the latter

[fleet zinc]

[copper hedge]

whichever triggers (via grand gate or choral chambers from exhaust organ)

idk about the slab but afaik you cant escape that place to the citadel unless youve unlocked the door on the right

[earnest drift]

might update this to have catastrophic instead of charismatic

[terse cloak]

omg your name is bobbittwyrm

[fleet zinc]

Yeah I was just unsure if there was some wacky roundabout way through bilewater, skip to ducts or sm

[copper hedge]

so you'd still need to go to the citadel regardless

[fleet zinc]

But you can’t skip to ducts without citadel items

So

[exotic cedar]

What if lifeblood sphire had an chase sequence boss fight where you climb the sphire while zylotol's master's students chase you in the tower and maybe you could call them the servants

[broken seal]

[copper hedge]

all roads lead to the citadel

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-higuruma-higuruma-anime-higuruma-oh-my-god-higuruma-son-gif-17189742323797679519

[earnest drift]

I cannot imagine a bunch of fatass axolotls being intimidating while chasing you

[copper hedge]

poppy playtime simulator

[fleet zinc]

Dorothy when the yellow brick road takes her to the citadel and her dog is eaten by gourmand

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-cells-the-servants-dead-cells-gif-9551430895606377868

[undone gate]

Their boss fight was really fun

[fleet zinc]

Yeah only if you didn’t make a dumbass tactics build bro why’d I do that

[mental snow]

I love Wanderer combat, I hate Wanderer pogo
Born to fight, forced to platform

However, I love Hunter pogo, I dislike* Hunter combat (because the attack speed is slow and I don't wanna manage Flew Brew usage)

[undone gate]

Telling Hunter is slow is insane when it's like faster than Shaman, Reaper, Witch and Architect

[light swan]

average wanderer user

[fleet zinc]

Attack speed on hunter aint slow buddy

[light swan]

look once a person experiences wanderers mindlessness they can’t go back

[mental snow]

Compared to Wanderer, it's slow

Happy?

[copper hedge]

ofc

[terse cloak]

skongers i have GREAT NEWS

[mental snow]

Anyway I lost my Steel Soul run to bullshit again so I'm angry again

[copper hedge]

tell

[terse cloak]

payday in a few hours, perhaps i shall buy someone skong

[fleet zinc]

Wanderer users when they realize you can often only get 2 hits in per boss opening with all crests. Deadass none get three (maybe it’s three and four, numbers might be wrong)

[terse cloak]

[copper hedge]

cooliooo

[terse cloak]

alright goodnight chat

[copper hedge]

gn

[light swan]

ok but witch dash attack has really great burst ajd therefore deals more damage per opening

and it’s practical too

[undone gate]

Isin't it the same with Hunters Dash Attack

[light swan]

nope

not only does it deal 2x instead of 1.5x but it can be animation cancelled to deal 3x

[undone gate]

You can also easily get double hits with Hunters Dash Attack

[light swan]

hunter can do 3x as well but it’s slower and also assumes youre playing fully hitless

[light swan]

and for burst openings where you can only get one dash attack witch will be better

[fleet zinc]

Wait what even is witch dash attack. Describe it for me so I remember lol

[light swan]

hornet slashes twice

[void moat]

two very quick swipes infront of you

[fleet zinc]

Ohh it’s a continuous running one

[light swan]

when the second atyack hits, she does an anime thing and teleports into the enemy before swiping out, hitting for a third time

[fleet zinc]

Doesn’t stop sprint

[undone gate]

Witch is better than Hunter for dash attacks but Hunter can also get really good burst damage with dash attacks

[light swan]

the first hit deals 1x damage, the 2nd and 3rd hit deal 0.5x damage

for 2x in total

[fleet zinc]

I need to do a witch run. I’ll just do that in my current playthrough ig I’m not super far

[light swan]

but you can animation cancel half the animation

[copper hedge]

steelsoul attempt 12 out of 25 was really stupid

[light swan]

by half, i mean it goes from 13 frames to 6 frames

[light swan]

but witch can get the same burst damage, faster

hunter also cant do it againsr short enemies

[undone gate]

That's why I said Witch has a better dash attack than Hunter

[light swan]

ya ya i agree with uou dw

just making the difference between hunter and witch clear

[fleet zinc]

My worst steel soul death: paused game in far fields after clearing the room. Go to bathroom. Come back. Cat on keyboard. Hornet taking damage to hot coals. Uh oh. I did not pause on hot coals btw

[light swan]

hornet literally quantum phases with herself to duplicate herself

[undone gate]

This tech looks so satisfying to use

[copper hedge]

OOOOFF

so did you make sure that the game is minimized next time you go ?

[fleet zinc]

It wasn’t early far fields either I was going back for cracked mask. After beastfly

[twilit lichen]

Why didn't my silksong data transfer from the pirated version to the steam version

[copper hedge]

probably different save folder.

[twilit lichen]

Fuck

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cityboy-cityboys-city-boy-city-boys-city-boy-city-boy-gif-1728226775662477911

[copper hedge]

check it

[fleet zinc]

No but I also moved my setup right after and it’s out of reach now

[undone gate]

Can't you down dash and get the 2nd hit for shorter targets

[copper hedge]

it should be in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight: Silksong\

idk what "LocalLow" means

[rose trail]

uhhh i actually piragted at first but then i bought it because i felt like a subhuman piece of trash so i moved my file i got everything but not the achievements, had to cheat those in (only the ones i got then ofc)
you need to go into "appdata", type that after doing windows key + r, then into locallow, team cherry, a file with random numbers and ur saves should be there; use .dat

[light swan]

even slower but yea

[twilit lichen]

Seems like it

[light swan]

at some point why not say “just wait until you fall”

[twilit lichen]

Ill just start over ig I was only at deep docks anyway

[light swan]

also i dont actially know if it’s possible cuz i’ve never seen anyone do it

people only downdash after clawline

[twilit lichen]

Wish I could install mods shits so complicated

[fleet zinc]

Guys stop talking about advanced melee tech embrace shaman volt filament weavelight spam. It’s totally more skill

[light swan]

witch bind deals more damage btw

[fleet zinc]

Shhhhhh

Let me be happy in my ignorance

[light swan]

Shaman's crest takes silk skills, some of the highest damaging attacks in Silksong Sorcery ranging from triple to over quadruple regular damage, and multiplies those silk skills with it's own innate technique. This innate technique allows Shamans to increase the silk skill damage by 40 percent, enough to wipe out most enemies. However using a binding vow known as Volt Filament, Shamans sacrifice a blue slot to further increase their already strong silk skills by another 25 percent.

When timed correctly, Extended Thread Storm with the user's innate technique and Volt Filament binding vow will deal the highest possible damage in all of Silksong Kaisen.

With the sole exception of Witch Bind, of course.

[undone gate]

I have used Shaman a lot it's a really cool crest

[light swan]

(and also witch nart)

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/city-boy-city-boy-instagram-jxbtty-gif-7643045933702623931

[fleet zinc]

Is extended thread storm still highest damage spell after nerfs?

[rose trail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ultrakill-v1-ultrakill

[undone gate]

How much damage does Extended Thread Storm deal with Volt Filament and Shaman

[light swan]

spell? yea

[light swan]

163 iirc

[fleet zinc]

Silks skill whatever

[rose trail]

extended threadstorm now only does 13% extra damage

i mean cross stitch is just better but

[light swan]

it is but not damage wise

[rose trail]

you guys can stay in your ignorant bliss

[undone gate]

It was buffed to around 33%

[rose trail]

absolutely not damage wise, it just has an objectively worse modifier but it's use is so tuff

[light swan]

no one is saying exthorm is better than stitch

[rose trail]

i see.........

[light swan]

stitch is the strongest silk skill in the game

with sharpdart at a second

[rose trail]

considering how spammable it is and how many fights it's viable in: debuff is deserved

[undone gate]

Is it also including 15 extra tick damage by Volt Filament

[light swan]

i think so yea

[rose trail]

mfs when they can't one shot every non boss enemy:

[light swan]

😔

[void moat]

ok im trying out youraislopbores.me but im a little confused

do you only get one message to send to the ai?

[light swan]

bro thinks he’s special for thinking cross stitch is the strongest

[rose trail]

mfs when their game-breaking unintended spammy build specific singular skill gets debuffed

[fleet zinc]

Cross stitch is strongest if you count aura points

[light swan]

also objectively worse modifier is what i mean, stitch is still better than exthorm

[rose trail]

mmm yea

[light swan]

even if you don’t count those, cross stitch is still the strongest

[fleet zinc]

Yeah ik misworded my sentence

[rose trail]

cross stitch isn't like really good in damage output, but its use case, how spammable it is and the fact it makes a niche mechanic that isn't stated in game into an incredibly useful spammable tool that works in every fight it outright deserved the debuff

[light swan]

last i heard cross stitch got buffed not debuffed

so idk what you’re talking about

[rose trail]

cross stitch was never debuffed; it always had a 2.4x needle modifier or something lower

[undone gate]

Yea it used to deal 2.4x nail damage and was buffed to 3x nail damage

[rose trail]

wait no i'm being too normal

[light swan]

2.4x up to 3x

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cityboy-cityboys-city-boy-city-boys-city-boy-city-boy-gif-1728226775662477911

[exotic cedar]

You can with with anything

win*

[rose trail]

well that's kind of broken, now it's just objectively the best skill fr

[light swan]

so yea cross stitch deals more damage than 80% of silk skills

[rose trail]

(/j please don't smite me)

[light swan]

exactly

[undone gate]

It deals the same damage as Silk Spear and Pale Nails while dealing less damage than Sharp Dart and EThreadStorm

[light swan]

1 more damage actualky

deals 64 dmg while spear and nails deal 63

[undone gate]

That 1 damage isin't going to make a huge difference

[light swan]

that 1 damage killed my family

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cityboy-cityboys-city-boy-city-boys-city-boy-city-boy-gif-1728226775662477911

[void moat]

no way the channel's been dead for 10 minutes

silksong's falling off

[graceful oyster]

Talk 'bout Meeo

[rose trail]

i mean there's nothing to talk about

anyways here are bosses i really didn't have fun with
skarrsinger karmelita
great conchflies
Last Judge
Lace 1 and 2

[earnest drift]

do you think it ever crossed lace’s mind to try capturing hornet to deliver to gms and take credit for being the one to wake her up

instead of killing hornet so she can’t wake gms up

[rose trail]

raging conchfly and khann gauntlet are op

[rose trail]

why do you think lace commanded a silkfly to save her in the first place?

[earnest drift]

so she wouldn't be taken to gms and gms wouldn't wake up because of hornet

[rose trail]

it's defo some sort of rebellion against silk; or hope to break the curse of the past of the weavers

[earnest drift]

lace wanted to be the one to wake gms up so she would get attention

[rose trail]

i doubt she knows about the weavers but pharloom and hallownest are heavily connected through the weavers

[earnest drift]

if she defeated hornet and brought her to gms then she could get that
but that would be even more difficult than just killing her

[earnest drift]

she absolutely knows about the weavers

she's been wandering the citadel for centuries, she'd have figured it out

[wild owl]

just asking, does lace actually visit your bellhome or was that a silkpost

[void moat]

silkpost

[earnest drift]

silkpost

[wild owl]

ohhh ok tyyy

[rose trail]

yes it was a silkpost dumah ✌️

[void moat]

lace would never do ts

[earnest drift]

so why does lace put off killing hornet so much

[wild owl]

shes in love

[earnest drift]

she only gives it her all in lace 2

[rocky jolt]

Tessela

[wild owl]

well no there are deeper reasons

[void moat]

the humble lacenet ban and lace is a minor moment

[wild owl]

lace subcontoiusly wants hornet to kill grandmother silk

[rocky jolt]

Tessela Perdida

[earnest drift]

lace is sadistic but this seems like a bluff

i think she's hoping hornet will give up and change her mind about confronting gms
because lace knows she's not strong enough to kill her

[wild owl]

also after lace 2 she realizes she isnt strong enough, plus shes really jealous and sad so she just gives up

[earnest drift]

no not really

she resents her mother and at first she wants to get rid of hornet (and all further weaver descendants that come) so that she can be the one to wake up gms

but waking up gms is an impossible task for her

she's killed the choir but as long as cogwork core is operational gms will sleep

[wild owl]

wait a second

whats actually keeping grandmother silk asleep?

[earnest drift]

at first it was the song the choir sang
then it was the cogwork core music cylinders at the top

[void moat]

she wants to regain her strength first before waking, she does that by consuming weavers

[earnest drift]

the choir serves as a backup i think

[wild owl]

i thought the cogwork core was the industrial place of the citadel, the place that powers most of the structures and mechanical systems

[dawn needle]

Huh.
It seems it was letting me have one last play session before cutting me off due to subscription ending
Or it was a bug

[wild owl]

ohhhh

[wild owl]

got it

[dawn needle]

cause I can no longer play

[earnest drift]

lace slew the entire choir, that's why the citadel is filled with corpses when hornet first gets there

but she couldn't destroy cogwork core

[upbeat thorn]

||spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler ||

[earnest drift]

ironically at the start of act 3 is when cogwork core finally gets destroyed

[wild owl]

wait a second

wouldnt the choristers and reeds have stopped lace?

[spice cargo]

why was she attacking the choir

[wild owl]

also the pilgrims are still alive in the citadel tho?

[earnest drift]

they would've tried
but they failed

[void moat]

i dont think the cogwork core has anything to do with gms being asleep when hornet gets there

[earnest drift]

yeah lace missed some

[wild owl]

ooooh this makes sence now

[void moat]

she clearly doesnt have a problem waking up when hornet gets to her at the end of act 2

[spice cargo]

dont we wake her up somehow

yeah actually how do we wake her

[wild owl]

also are reeds the equivalent of flying guards, choristers are equvalent of standing guards, and grand reeds are equvalent of large guard from city of tears?

[void moat]

except it clearly doesnt work because gms woke up

[earnest drift]

because hornet got there

[earnest drift]

caretaker says something about hornet's arrival accelerating gms's waking

[unkempt steeple]

Been long enough I'm surr everyone has been able to do hitless lost lace without tools, GIVES US A 10 DAMAGE BOSS

[spice cargo]

does there have to be equivalence

[wild owl]

yes

[kind tide]

shaw

[wild owl]

adino

[kind tide]

[spice cargo]

higale

[wild owl]

garama

chat died

[earnest drift]

do you think lace managed to kill any weaver descendants before hornet

[wild owl]

probably not

[earnest drift]

it would be funny if hornet was the first time she tried taking back control of her job and it was just her luck that this one was a demigod and half part

[spice cargo]

does herra beat gms

[wild owl]

all weaver kills are documented

[spice cargo]

does hornet beat Spiderman

[wild owl]

except

widow and first sinner those were killed by hornet

[spice cargo]

why is there wind in Blasted steps if were underground

[tropic swan]

Would they even fight?

[spice cargo]

no

[wild owl]

yes???

[earnest drift]

her body looks weird

[spice cargo]

first sinner was already dead

[wild owl]

maybe tbh

[earnest drift]

first sinner is hornet fighting a hallucination

[earnest drift]

all the other weavers who built the citadel supposedly died out

[spice cargo]

didnt they just leave

[vivid belfry]

one small group of them left for hallownest

[earnest drift]

some stayed and died
some returned and died
idk what happened to the others

[spice cargo]

who killed them

[earnest drift]

possibly haunted bugs

[exotic cedar]

I ate them accidently in my sleep

[spice cargo]

how can a weaver die to this

[earnest drift]

a LOT of them though

[vivid belfry]

this is true except it wasn't on accident and you are grandmother silk

[spice cargo]

oh

[earnest drift]

you'd need like 200 haunted reeds to take out a single weaver

[rocky jolt]

https://x.com/lunonad/status/2034652004094783765

lunonad (@lunonad)

…

X · Mar 19, 2026, 3:23 PM

[earnest drift]

but the haunting can revive corpses so gms doesn't have to worry about losing force

maybe widow killed weavers as well who knows

[void moat]

the cogwork core holds similarity to the vessel plan in that it's fundamentally flawed imo

[vivid belfry]

they didn't even need this much to take out hornet, who is considerably stronger than the average weaver

especially considering weavers don't regenerate silk

[earnest drift]

interesting take but i think that's headcanon

[spice cargo]

to kill hornet you need 1 tiny bug doing 2 masks per hit for some reason

[earnest drift]

wait they don't

[vivid belfry]

nope, once they spend it all, they're out

[spice cargo]

how does hornet have

[vivid belfry]

that's the reason for the existence of some of their tools

[vivid belfry]

PK genes

[void moat]

if the cogwork core worked then gms wouldve never become desperate to wake and started the haunting 😭

[spice cargo]

wow

[earnest drift]

her pale side can reap soul from striking enemies, soul becomes silk

[rocky jolt]

the snail shamans are the only ones that were able to get rid of a pale higher being btw

[spice cargo]

idk why they then donated their lives to take her down

[earnest drift]

i think cogwork core worked just fine
the citadel's fatal flaw was whiteward

[spice cargo]

whats their goal in life

[zinc wharf]

I’m currently in Shellwood after having skipped Bell Beast. Is there any form of progression I can get aside from killing Sister Splinter for Cling Grip?

[void moat]

to see their lands freed

[earnest drift]

if it weren't for whiteward, the haunting wouldn't have happened
without the haunting, gms couldn't capture weavers
without capturing weavers, gms wouldn't be able to grow stronger and wake up

the citadel could've reigned forever if they weren't desperate for immortality

[spice cargo]

didnt the Weavers put her in a trance

did the Weavers keep her in a trance or did the choir bugs

[void moat]

dont think the whiteward caused the haunting cause the weavers are already full of silk and gms couldve just puppeted them from the beginning

[spice cargo]

weren't they farming her

[rocky jolt]

i love you cacataker

[earnest drift]

weavers put her in a trance via choir bugs

[earnest drift]

yes they harvested silk from her cocoon

[zinc wharf]

I can’t exit Bellhart through the passage below the bellway as that seems to require cling grip, Greymoor is a hard stop for me, and I don’t believe Shellwood has any other exits, other than through Bone Bottom which puts me back at square one.

[spice cargo]

so theyre immortal

[earnest drift]

yeah but it's not going well for them
see conductor ballador

[spice cargo]

just get cling grip

[zinc wharf]

Just to make sure, there are no other options? I would like to spare Sister Splinter if at all possible.

[spice cargo]

well im not a skipper

[unkempt steeple]

You can skip sister splinter by taunting an enemy in the opening under the silk skill before sister splinter

[earnest drift]

the way things connect in silksong's lore feels more sensible compared to hk

in hk you have the knight returning to hallownest for no specified reason other than thk/radiance vaguely calling out to them (how did they do that)
in silksong hornet is captured and brought to hallownest because bugs are haunted by gms and she can do the haunting because of whiteward which happened because conductors wanted to be immortal which happened because they were put in power by weavers who imprisoned gms

[rocky jolt]

lol they are fucking lame

[earnest drift]

pieces of shit i hope they go extinct

[zinc wharf]

Can I do that in 11 taunts or less? I don’t have a silk heart, so I’ll have at most 11 taunts (9 spools + 2 hits on the enemy there).

[spice cargo]

I dont get what went wrong in whiteward

[void moat]

they fucking goated son

[spice cargo]

also wasnt the hk just born to do it

[unkempt steeple]

Getting to the gauntlet without getting captured is so funny, just burst into these random guys' room to kill them

[rocky jolt]

they are not goats they are flies

[unkempt steeple]

Goat flies

[rocky jolt]

and it plays the bland gauntlet theme

[earnest drift]

first of all a whole lot of people died in the experimentations of silk to see what would work before it was done on the conductors
then silk got into the food chain and water cycle and now it's everywhere like microplastics, so everyone is haunted

[unkempt steeple]

Why isn't loam a horse fly... just a horse

[earnest drift]

how do people resist the haunting
is it strength of mind again

[restive ibex]

Feels like they just said "thanks for writing all the lore mossbag" and rolled with that instead of proving us wrong

[void moat]

luck or not being born in pharloom

[rocky jolt]

then you would need horses

[spice cargo]

by everyone do you mean even thr choir bugs in the citadel

[earnest drift]

was mossbag's lore video good

[spice cargo]

no

[earnest drift]

yes

[void moat]

mediocre so ive heard

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-higuruma-higuruma-anime-higuruma-oh-my-god-higuruma-son-gif-17189742323797679519

[exotic dome]

mossbag's lore video isnt very good sadly

[spice cargo]

there is one good hk lore vid and I need him to make it for silksong

[restive ibex]

I'm talking about the HK stuff specifically

[unkempt steeple]

Isn't it left ambigious? Iirc there's a dialogue like "oh idk, maybe they're not beliving hard enough or smth else" or smth

[earnest drift]

benjin and crull say that yes

[rocky jolt]

its kinda cool seeing the other slab enemies interactions by avoiding getting captured

[spice cargo]

skyrionn

[unkempt steeple]

I don't remenber anyone else talk about any specifics of what the haunting does exacly and how to prevent it

[rocky jolt]

hl lore guy 🥺

[broken seal]

anything beats MatPats HK theory 😭

[earnest drift]

also the haunting doesn't have a limited distance
as long as a bug has silk inside, gms can control them

[void moat]

haunting hijacks your body and puts your mind through almost eldrich things unimaginable to a normal bug

[unkempt steeple]

Ig it's just, don't breath in too much silk?

[void moat]

gms threw the game by not immediately controlling hornet

[earnest drift]

i don't think she can control weavers or their descendants

[rocky jolt]

dont know what we are talking about Im gonna start calling mr mushroom ''Gerald''

[earnest drift]

rhymes with herald

[void moat]

widow has haunting strings if you needolin her

[vivid belfry]

rhymes with Grug

[rocky jolt]

yea its perfect

[earnest drift]

given this is impossible to do in vanilla i think this is unreliable

[unkempt steeple]

Maybe hornet is strong enough to resist gms' control like how she can hold off the parasite

[earnest drift]

wait for the rematch in godhome

[unkempt steeple]

She is half higher being after all

[earnest drift]

otherwise widow stayed loyal to gms so maybe she willingly let in her control

[void moat]

id consider it fair proof nonetheless

[rocky jolt]

silksong -20% sale

[restive ibex]

Don't put silk in your shell intentionally, don't walk in to spiderwebs, don't stand at a lower elevation than Widow, don't go hollow or die

[rocky jolt]

not gonna buy it because the game is mid

[restive ibex]

Idk, like. Just don't live in pharloom

[earnest drift]

also don't eat or drink

or breathe

[unkempt steeple]

I think every place in the hk world sucks

[broken seal]

"Don't stand at a lower elevation than Widow" just makes me think of Green Day from Jojo part 5

[unkempt steeple]

They're bugs, being a bug sucks

[restive ibex]

Breathing is okay, probably

[unkempt steeple]

Can't even live bettween kingdoms cuz that's just baron wasteslands

[rocky jolt]

its always either a pale being taking over a whole kingdom or just capitalism

[vivid belfry]

nah she's definitely this motherfucker

[broken seal]

💀💀

[earnest drift]

why does jojo name things after bands

[vivid belfry]

Araki likes classic rock a lot

although he's been branching out

[restive ibex]

Yeah it kind of seems like that. Maybe in hallownest was okay in it's golden age, but it still had some class problems

[unkempt steeple]

True

[broken seal]

araki really likes pop culture, there are other pop culture things referenced by names n whatnot

but it's mainly bands/songs and classic rock

[void moat]

jojo's a cool series i watched the first episode of sbr today and it was pretty nice

big fan of ||sandman|| so far

[vivid belfry]

I like to imagine that zote's homeland is a utopia and he only left because he's a complete jackass

[broken seal]

originally the stands were named after tarot cards (except for Cream with the stand user Vanilla Ice) but part 4 and beyond are bands/famous songs

[zinc wharf]

I forgot I can taunt without having silk…

[graceful oyster]

Zote's homeland is literally Shellwood

Because he's a greyroot

Grey Prince Zote? Hello?

[earnest drift]

his nail is made of shellwood

[graceful oyster]

Nail carved from shellwood?

[pallid plinth]

Pop culture by Madeon?

[earnest drift]

and his mother betrayed him

[pallid plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-gif-18110512

[graceful oyster]

Mother betrayed him?

Cmon

[light swan]

Grey Prince btw

[earnest drift]

and greyroot is a root like white lady so the two would have similar looking offspring
the knight and zote look similar

[graceful oyster]

Answer's right there

[broken seal]

greyroot being zote's mom is such a dumb theory icl

[wanton nimbus]

deltarune tomorrow

[light swan]

Precept #smth: Never Trust Your Mothers or smth

[earnest drift]

but why does zote talk about his father wouldn't his father be dead before he was born

[broken seal]

exactly lmao

[void moat]

what greyroot is doing is rebirthing herself, if she wanted to make a child she'd probably do something different

[graceful oyster]

The relationship was probably different or smth

[earnest drift]

anyway i fucking hate zote like how i hate greyroot both of them can go burn in hell

witch crest good though

[broken seal]

huge stretch

[void moat]

also vessels get their looks from wyrms so maybe she married a chud grey wyrm and theyre like a homeless version of pk and wl

[earnest drift]

if zote was replaced with the witch crest then hollow knight would be good

[graceful oyster]

It's genuinely not a huge stretch

[rocky jolt]

you want us to fight grey prince witch crest

[graceful oyster]

I usually perpetuate the theory because it's funny but like, I'll bite. I believe it unironically too.

[earnest drift]

dead in 2.3 seconds

(zote)

[broken seal]

His weapon being made from Shellwood does not mean he is from Shellwood, just that he's been there. It could also just be a reference as his weapon was said to be made from Shellwood long before Silksong was a thing and Shellwood was an area.

[earnest drift]

wait

oops i confused myself

[broken seal]

And saying stuff about never trusting moms does not mean it has anything to do with Greyroot

[earnest drift]

he says he visited many kingdoms yes

[broken seal]

with that logic it's equally likely that GMS is his mom because her whole thing was the Weavers trusting her as their "mother"

[light swan]

its the best theory tbf

[broken seal]

we don't know where he's from or how far he's traveled, we just know he's from outside of Hallownest

[light swan]

its not confirmed

[earnest drift]

ok i like this idea more

[light swan]

but its a fun theory and its the best we got

so might as well

[broken seal]

There are two very vague pieces of "evidence" alluding to it as a possibility and then 0 concrete things that make any real sense other than technically maybe possibly cuz i said so

[broken seal]

it's fun and i thought it was silly and fun at first but there are so many people who've started taking it so seriously

[light swan]

Grey Prince zote
Grey Root

i dont hear anyone saying Grey Mother Silk

isnt the knight like the shining white knight?

[graceful oyster]

Okay but you can't deny the coincidence between Grey Prince and Greyroot and ALSO the nail and region names coinciding AND that Greyroot and White Lady seem to be from the same group of beings

[light swan]

born from the white lady?

[rigid berry]

What if Zote is actually the Father of GMS

[light swan]

isnt zote, someone who looks like the knight, known as the Grey Prince? born from the Grey Root?

[void moat]

have we lost the plot?

[inland sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1418632125263118468/1464750868003029032/attachment.gif

[rigid berry]

No, we just predicted it

[void moat]

hollow knight and silksong ✌️

[rigid berry]

The knight is FRYING me bro why do they look like that

[broken seal]

he's only called grey prince by bretta and her delusions 💔

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai-gif-14475294631445060178

[earnest drift]

but he probably told bretta smth about his history

[broken seal]

based off of this meme

[graceful oyster]

But why?

[void moat]

bretta can make a dream world she can probably see his backstory

[broken seal]

because he's described as grey 💀

[void moat]

is bretta a higher being

[rocky jolt]

why this guy always gotta stand out like a sore thumb

[graceful oyster]

Why?

[exotic dome]

ITS DONE

[void moat]

geen

[broken seal]

because his color is grey

[graceful oyster]

Why?

[rigid berry]

What if he’s actually GREAT Prince Zote and Bretta just misheard?

[inland sparrow]

Good job

[graceful oyster]

It all comes back to Greyroot

[broken seal]

also, Greyroot is not of Royalty that we know of and there is NOTHING to suggest that they are

[inland sparrow]

FUCK YOU AUTO CORRECT

[void moat]

queen of being grey

[light swan]

greyroot will always be my queen

[light swan]

Shes grey for a rooty reason!

[earnest drift]

is greyroot a higher being or a potential higher being

why did i even ask it's obviously the latter

[void moat]

we dont have much proof for her being a hb

[graceful oyster]

That took a whole minute to send

[earnest drift]

twisted child is shade lord level btw

[exotic dome]

whiteroot

[void moat]

she overpowers hornet somewhat but she also took her offguard

[void moat]

but the fact she's genuinely countered by an abortion makes me rethink her being all that strong

[earnest drift]

hornet only survived the first part because she's half pale half weaver

[broken seal]

she also got overpowered by some citadel bugs lmao

[earnest drift]

if she weren't she would've died immediately

[light swan]

we havent seen her full potential yet dw

[earnest drift]

also twisted child was able to consume both gms and hornet at once

[graceful oyster]

Greyroot DLC when

[light swan]

also she could just be super old and worn with age

[earnest drift]

forces the player to use witch crest

[graceful oyster]

Witch crest evo

[broken seal]

it was able to feed off very strong things very quickly when they weren't able to fight back

[old raft]

lets fucking go

[light swan]

we know what happens when minds are forced to persist for a long time with no replacement, they go insane

[rigid berry]

How

[lavish apex]

i support the idea of dlc giving every crest an evolution

[rocky jolt]

Greyroot is the most powerful character in the hollow knight because she makes the best tool called the Pollip pouch

[light swan]

sounds like a premature conclusion to me

[void moat]

true actually hornet isnt super strong physically without her needle

[exotic dome]

im NOT touching this game until dlc

[graceful oyster]

I read this and like, forgot that other people played the game for a sec and I was like WAIT that's a reference!

[lavish apex]

even though it just won't happen probably

[light swan]

😭

[reef basalt]

Yeah, I'm waiting for the dlc too

[old raft]

i installed quick warp mod
and get kipnaped become naked then i just warp into abyss

[graceful oyster]

And iirc you aren't a dirty savequitter so, excellent job

AREN'T

[light swan]

i savequit at beastfly just to die at widow

[rigid berry]

There should be a DLC with devolutions of every crest, and it should just force you to use weaker versions of every crest

[broken seal]

wah wah savequitting wah it does NOT matter bro

[old raft]

WHAT NO SEA OF SORROW HAS DONE TO ME

[earnest drift]

is this mio

[pallid plinth]

Just dont brag about your achievement

[broken seal]

dw it's tomorrow

[lavish apex]

widow is a big steel soul killer

[light swan]

why would this be mio 💀

[old raft]

should i do nake karmelita
its gonna be harder

[earnest drift]

mandatory downgrade idk

[pallid plinth]

If i see a savescummer act proud about getting it im gonna brick em

[light swan]

the paranoia has got to lace

[rigid berry]

Who’s Mio?

[copper hedge]

damn...

GMS doesnt have a beer belly

[exotic dome]

thanks

[light swan]

mio has 0 mandatory downgrades :D

[earnest drift]

that's a spider abdomen and it is normal

[light swan]

well theres 1 in moss grotto

[earnest drift]

ok i confused it with something else

[light swan]

but thats just like hornet starting at 1 hp

[rigid berry]

It?

[broken seal]

my biggest steel soul killer is lowkey Trobbio cuz i'm ass at that fight specifically for no reason

[lavish apex]

mio only takes your health

[light swan]

not mandatorily

[rigid berry]

Who is mio bro

[lavish apex]

and far less than you might expect

yeah

[light swan]

Mio is a soldier of Agnus and from Colony Gamma along with Sena and Taion. She is an off-seer who was initially working for Colony Gamma's special forces. Mio is an Agnian human with Flesh Eater Blade and Gormotti traits.

(its a really good metroidvania actually)

[rigid berry]

Oh okay

[light swan]

also technically its not a downgrade since you get an upgrade at the same time!

[earnest drift]

sidegrade

[rigid berry]

Grade B-

[light swan]

actually its a double upgrade and one downgrade actually

so its a net positive

[copper hedge]

Grade

[light swan]

wait. triple upgrade, 1 downgrade

[lavish apex]

as far as i know there's only one benefit

[earnest drift]

losing health is an upgrade because it encourages dodging more

[light swan]

||increased damage, hands greed also naturally impacts more, and the dog dies|| 3 benefits (mio spoilers?)

[lavish apex]

that last one is not an upgrade

[light swan]

yes it is

[lavish apex]

:(

[light swan]

i cant shairpin it to death so ill period cramp it to death

my lifespam exponentially increased upon seeing it's corpse

[earnest drift]

what in the world

[broken seal]

"MiO is peak" the peak:

[lavish apex]

that's fucked up bro

[light swan]

bro

the game fucking taunts me by letting me hairpin but not shairpin

literally hairpin gets animation cancelled to cut to the petting animation

midair

[lavish apex]

good

[light swan]

but period cramps exist so the balance is restored

[graceful oyster]

I'm just sitting here chowing on pizza listening to organ music learning that Illu is genuinely a psychopath

[rigid berry]

I don’t know anything about Mio and after hearing this I’m not sure I want to

[light swan]

no the game is really good, and this is the best part about it

[lavish apex]

you need to be stopped

[earnest drift]

after hearing this i want to play mio more

[light swan]

have i not talked about this before

i swear we were in vc when i crashed out over the shairpin thing

[graceful oyster]

You have but now it's not just a oneoff thing

[light swan]

i swear this is the 3rd time ive talked about this or smth

[lavish apex]

actually is it worth using hand's greed and perfect state at the same time

[graceful oyster]

also stop making me type with my pinkies

[light swan]

yea

[light swan]

mio sucks can you explain why it doesnt

[light swan]

hands greed will just be an unconditional damage boost, especially with the more period cramps youve suffered

[glacial quarry]

Hornet likes fluffy creatures
Hornet trained with the bees
Hive knight is a fluffy bee
Yes yes it's all coming together.

[rigid berry]

Yes

[light swan]

i think max hands greed with no defcore deals more damage than perfect state but perfect state + half hands greed will deal more than max hands greed no perfstate im assuming

also playing with defcore grants you so much benefits that its just not worth going over max hands greed

those benefits allow you to afford both perfstate and hands greed too

[brave geyser]

Bitch

[copper hedge]

TROBBIOOOOOO

[earnest drift]

trobbi-go away

[rigid berry]

I love Trobbio, he’s just so over the top

[brave geyser]

trobbo :(

[earnest drift]

trobbio is better than grimm

[copper hedge]

welp. gl on tormented trobbio

[brave geyser]

Oh iam not doing him in this run thankfully

[lavish apex]

i prefer grimm

[brave geyser]

he isn't even a %

[lavish apex]

trobbio spends too much time camping under the floor

[rigid berry]

Matthew Trobbiani, or however you spell his name, has done the world a great service

[brave geyser]

due to how my run is tormented trobbio is an actual difficulty jump from trobbo

[light swan]

i remember hearing about nightmare king trobbio before act 3 and it was pretty cool

[copper hedge]

the funny thing is that he struggled on his own bossfight lmao

[light swan]

also i like claw mirrors if you couldnt tell

[rigid berry]

lol

[lavish apex]

he's probably
my least favorite of the strictly mandatory bosses

meaning like excluding moorwing and sister splinter and fourth chorus

[copper hedge]

what if we replace Trobbio with Tenna-

[lavish apex]

although fourth chorus might be mandatory on current patch actually idk

[graceful oyster]

Trapu Vs Pinstress

[still osprey]

Nah

[lavish apex]

who's trapu again

[brave geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-bruh-shut-up-didnt-ask-gif-26173232

[light swan]

hydrogen bomb vs fuckass bitch

[light swan]

washing machine beta

[copper hedge]

does it include tumble drying?

[graceful oyster]

Fridge

[lavish apex]

i'd rather washing machine i think

[exotic dome]

fourth furnace when

[light swan]

https://clashroyale.fandom.com/wiki/Giant_Snowball

[rigid berry]

We should fight the other three all at once

[graceful oyster]

Lmao

[light swan]

for reference trapu is not a washing machine 😡

[graceful oyster]

No one uses giant snowball

Ass card

[copper hedge]

why am i thinking of Doofenshmirtz when i think of The Lab for Sea of Sorrow

[light swan]

me when the furnace doesnt yield...

what is this, some kind of unyielding furnace?

me when the pearltrap traps pearls

[lavish apex]

this is brainrot

[exotic dome]

brainrot in orbit

bio

[copper hedge]

orbit a brainrot

[light swan]

ive had worse brainrot before

[graceful oyster]

(Spidy enters the room)
What is this, some kind of spidy? I wonder if it would be my friend

[spark anchor]

if you were to put groal in a pantheon in which pantheon and half would you put him in