sk-discussion

[sharp slate]

definitely

[untold dune]

team cherry was actually only $4 away from declaring bankruptcy, if you waited they wouldve gone broke and sea of sorrow would be cancelled

[unkempt steeple]

16 bucks for slop

Fortnite is free btw

[light swan]

hope you enjoy

[lavish apex]

nier automata on switch is also 15.99

[minor sparrow]

Wait wtf is a dr browns soda. Target what the hell are you selling

[light swan]

honestly after rain world

i was planning on playing sekiro after laika

but then my friend bought me rain world because she’s super nice

[sharp slate]

98 million dollars after steams cut about

[light swan]

and now i’m feeling bo or blasphemous 2 after rw

[orchid locust]

i hope she’s washed could you imagine wearing the same piece of clothing for who knows how many thousands of years without washing it

[sharp slate]

fuck even if you get 3 million a pop you are set for life, they are beyond set

[lavish apex]

blasphemous 2 is peak

[tight viper]

This?

[lavish apex]

like
my 4th favorite metroidvania

[minor sparrow]

Damn now I have choices to make

[unkempt steeple]

Metroidslop just play vania

[untold dune]

idk man ive never seen a washing machine in universe

[orchid locust]

slopvania just play metroid

[minor sparrow]

It's probably between bg3 and mio tbh, cause I've already played NMS

[untold dune]

metroidvania just play slop

[light swan]

blasphemous 1 was already fun, not the best but still enough, 2 is just gonna be better

[lavish apex]

it's also quite big with the dlc

[minor sparrow]

Yeah that

[light swan]

this is why mio is better

[untold dune]

truth!

[orchid locust]

outer wilds outer wilds outer wilds outer wilds outer wilds outer wilds outer wilds outer wilds outer wi

[sharp slate]

BG3 is really good game, decent amount of time required though, I think i had 100 hours in my first playthrough

[tight viper]

New York stuff, apparently

[minor sparrow]

Well her cloak is brighter in sk so clearly she had to wash the dirt off from hallownest

[lavish apex]

both blasphemous games are also on sale on switch

[sharp slate]

mio im probably buying this weekend, we will see, i got a spare money for a game but i dont want to add to my backlog

[minor sparrow]

No, I think I'm good

[sharp slate]

i still got horizon zero dawn to play

[lavish apex]

and apparently mio

[untold dune]

nah the pharloom bugs washed her cloak against her consent

[minor sparrow]

I had fun with that game while I had it

Wait what is that emote lol

Oh I see

[unkempt steeple]

Was it named pharloom before the weavers

Cuz like... pharlids... pharloom

[minor sparrow]

No entries?

[unkempt steeple]

Also where did gms come from

[untold dune]

i think pharlids were named after pharloom so prob

[minor sparrow]

Probably just showed up like the rest of the higher beings

[tight viper]

Chicago

[orchid locust]

evil pharloomian hygienecels force true hallownest stenchmaxxer to take a sh*wer 🥀 🥀 🥀

[unkempt steeple]

Was she just chilling and went huh I'm bored let me make children

[minor sparrow]

The white hair is from the snow

And also maybe from snow

[untold dune]

does pharloom become green on st patricks day like the river

[tight viper]

Can't wait until GMS orders the creation of a Portillo's in the Citadel

[lavish apex]

i think pale beings just kinda roam around until they find a place with a sufficent population of creatures to dominate

i'd assume gms was the same

[minor sparrow]

Narcissists finding a discord server

[sharp slate]

look at this beautiful build xD

long claw reaper, longest claw

[minor sparrow]

Beotiful

[orchid locust]

miami gms

[untold dune]

how can i enjoy this? theres no spider strings

[minor sparrow]

And no wispfire lantern?

[sharp slate]

honestly has anyone actually used spider strings unironcally

[minor sparrow]

I honestly thought it would like be used to unlock the door in pilgrims rest first playthrough

[lavish apex]

depends on what unironically means

[devout oracle]

is this good against karmelita?

[untold dune]

spider strings would be a bit better if it sped up the needolin rather than increase the radius

[sharp slate]

the saw in the middle is kinda meh, but good enough

[minor sparrow]

I thought it would be like open doors faster and be able to power bigger doors

[tight viper]

I used it in my first playthrough because I wanted to learn about the lore

[minor sparrow]

Also the visual effect is really cool

[lavish apex]

i would use reserve bind or multibinder over pollip pouch

[untold dune]

or actually what if spider strings let u use needolin without using up silk

[sharp slate]

i just got it way to late to use it that much, i think i used it on a few flying enemies for the dialogue

[tight viper]

I took a page out of Sherma's book and just constantly played the Needolin

[minor sparrow]

Why does gms have the pail nails ability when her nails aren't pail and fs's are

[devout oracle]

i have multibinder, so fair enough. i just felt like i needed poison damage lol

[tight viper]

She just woke up she probably forgot she had them

[minor sparrow]

Wait then the wispfire plus spider strings would be almost decent

[lavish apex]

pollip pouch doesn't actually contribute very much damage unfortunately

[digital tulip]

Guys

[untold dune]

true actually

[minor sparrow]

Left it in her back pocket

[digital tulip]

Should i use pollip pouch?

[tight viper]

ehhh

[minor sparrow]

Nah

[tight viper]

Where are you at in the game

[digital tulip]

With cogfly

[digital tulip]

End of act 2

[minor sparrow]

But if you have nothing better

[digital tulip]

Badivslly 2nd lace fight

[pallid pine]

Finished drawing the map for today, gonna continue tmrw

[tight viper]

You'll have more valuable blue tools by this point

Pollip Pouch falls off quick

[digital tulip]

But ain't it a W wih like cogfly and tacks

[timid sky]

Why no yellows

[minor sparrow]

Unless you just didn't find any craft metal

[digital tulip]

I see

[minor sparrow]

Not enough to make it better than many blues

[digital tulip]

Btw where so i get 2 extra tool slots? In the uhh crest menu area

[tight viper]

Pollip Pouch's value was massively exaggerated in the early days, still remains the recipient of false praise

[digital tulip]

I see

[tight viper]

Pay the Moss Grotto another visit when you get a chance

[digital tulip]

Wh

The uhh 2nd moss mother fight?

[timid sky]

I'm pretty sure pollip pouch doesn't stack which is part of the reason it's bad

[sharp slate]

i honestly thing pollip pouch is being massively underrated now

[digital tulip]

I always visit that area

[tight viper]

Oh wait you've been to Atla?

[minor sparrow]

Oh wait have you done that already

[digital tulip]

Ye ofc

[timid sky]

Did you upgrade your hunter

[digital tulip]

Nahhhh

[tight viper]

Aight uhhh you just need more crests and memory lockets then, it sounds like

[sharp slate]

pollip pouch isnt amazing, but for your average player its still strong imo, its free damage that you dont need to think about

[digital tulip]

Nahhhhhhhhhh

[tight viper]

Unless you missed Eva

[minor sparrow]

The pendulum of pollip pouch reception swings

[timid sky]

Breakable wall right of the elevator

[digital tulip]

DWAG, i unlocked all crests and all slots of all the crests

[sharp slate]

its just pollip falls off extremely sharply with skill gained

[minor sparrow]

Oh then just keep talking to eva

[digital tulip]

You mean eva? Yeah so like i alr got 2nd version of hubters crest

[torn rock]

well i bought mio.................

[tight viper]

Yeah you've just gotta talk to Eva then

[minor sparrow]

Someone ping illusion

[digital tulip]

She told me to like uhhh come back later in my journey

[digital tulip]

Kk

[quartz junco]

Woah, people underrating polip pouch?
Kinda makes sense though, it's a slow damage that can't be stacked, so

[minor sparrow]

It was pretty overrated release week

[digital tulip]

Btw guys is it ok if i like cheese 2nd lace fight cz i heard that it's rlly ez and i don't want to rlly memorise another boss's moveset

[sharp slate]

yea, everyone hyped it and now everyone is calling it dogshit lol

[minor sparrow]

Then as we could actually start looking at the numbers then didn't like it as much

[timid sky]

Architect toolspam?

[sharp slate]

in truth its somewhere in the middle, varies on skill level, leaning for being better for newer players

[minor sparrow]

Now it's kinda just getting shit on passively

[digital tulip]

Nahh keep uppercuting lace at the start

[quartz junco]

Back when everyone wasn't as super good at the game and was happy to dodge a lil or hang out and heal while the poison did its job? 🙃

[sharp slate]

though newer players may want to run injector band instead

[sharp slate]

basically lol

[timid sky]

Do whatever, it's your save file

[minor sparrow]

Back when we literally couldn't see what it was doing aswell

[orchid locust]

admins should move this whole server to a chatgpt group chat

[digital tulip]

Fair enough

[quartz junco]

She fun imo, but if you wanna 🤷‍♂️

[whole mortar]

lmao i just booted up hollow knight for the first time in forever and aced all of the white palace skips

maybe im not washed

[timid sky]

I don't think you were ever washed

[minor sparrow]

Lose a run to an explosive in fog canyon

[digital tulip]

Nahh i rather take GMS and first sinner as fun

Sooo like what even is in wisp thicket chat

[quartz junco]

Couldn't see? I guess people weren't used to tools either, so the nice purple visuals on poisoned enemies wouldn't help to know or something?

[minor sparrow]

Mask shard, tool, flea

[digital tulip]

Kk

[sharp slate]

okay the more i play with reapers the more i think its stronger than i thought

[digital tulip]

Ngl im prolly cooked or washed

[minor sparrow]

No, I mean the actual damage numbers

[sharp slate]

eyo GOAT

[timid sky]

& metal

[minor sparrow]

Right

[digital tulip]

Cz i am getting cooked by the ez boss fight there

[minor sparrow]

The sawtooth pogo with reaper is really fun

[digital tulip]

Anyways

Guys i got like 2 craftmetals

What do i do with it?????

[timid sky]

Forge daughter, twelfth architect

[digital tulip]

Mehhhhh

[minor sparrow]

Well you can craft stuff at forge daughter, 12th architect, and random tools you find around the world

[timid sky]

Also if you have a broken gun don't give it to forge daughter or twelfth architect

[quartz junco]

Was damage on poison even lower back at first? Like, I'm not sure what "didn't see what it does" means. Is the damage of poison just considered generally low ?

[digital tulip]

What tools are the best? From forge daughtee and 12th archtect

[digital tulip]

Name em

[timid sky]

Sting shard is pretty good

[tight viper]

Sawtooth Circlet is amazing

[digital tulip]

GUN????!!!!

[minor sparrow]

By "didn't see what it does" I mean being able to see the damage numbers because most people were just playing the game

[digital tulip]

Aight

[void moat]

sting shard and sawtooth circlet are the best tools from both of them

[timid sky]

Only if you're cracked

[tight viper]

Even if you're not cracked you can get good value out of it

[quartz junco]

I like the forge one, but gotta admit... I'll probably be sticking with the beam for maybe all my future runs except something thematic-ish xD

[digital tulip]

Kk, so like how much shards it take?????

[minor sparrow]

One each

[orchid locust]

nah i’m on the opposite end of cracked and sawtooth has still been insane

[digital tulip]

FR???????

[light swan]

sawtooth circlet kind of sucks

for people who havent bought it

[timid sky]

Nah then you're just cracked

[orchid locust]

true actually i just changed my mind sawtooth is horrible

[devout oracle]

Tired that on Karmelita. It's quite effective, but there's no way I can beat her in under a minute lol

[minor sparrow]

It's pretty useful as long as you remember to use it

[light swan]

yea, if you dont use it it sucks too

[minor sparrow]

Which I didn't my first time using it so

[digital tulip]

Is like.for.only.enemies that uhh are on the ground

[minor sparrow]

Circlet?

[digital tulip]

Yep.

[timid sky]

No it adds damage to your glide

[quartz junco]

One craftmetal, sawtooth needs no shards as it's blue, and sting iirc is like 7 per, maybe lower though, didn't use it in a sec

[minor sparrow]

And double jump

[light swan]

glide and double jump

[minor sparrow]

Which you can also cancel with an attack

[timid sky]

Yeah but we don't kniw if he has it yet

[quartz junco]

The umbrella mode does blades swoosh, ya

[digital tulip]

Can sawtooth be used on airborne enemies?

[minor sparrow]

Oh sorry I read shards as craftmetal, that's on me

[placid pivot]

nah you dont have to be cracked, you just have to get the hang of it

[digital tulip]

Lol

[minor sparrow]

Yeah as long as you go up close to them

[placid pivot]

imo its actually one of the easier tools so use

[orchid locust]

“cracked”

[placid pivot]

you kinda just jump for freee dps

im not sure if it needs a nerf though

[minor sparrow]

It could take a nerf and be fine

[digital tulip]

Here's the lore of sk:
Weaver get kidnapped cz opps jealous.
Weaver kill big opp/weaver maker

Chat is my lore correct?

[minor sparrow]

Pretty much

[sharp slate]

dont nerf my child

[timid sky]

Kinda

[placid pivot]

i woundnt be upset at that

[devout oracle]

Ok, I wonder... Did they ever patch the rune rage shortcut in The top cave?

[timid sky]

Buff sawtooth circlet by removing ear shredder

[minor sparrow]

It'll still be one of if not the best blues

[placid pivot]

||but i love circlet not just because it's good, but because its one of the most fun tools in the entire game with an awesome ckill ceiling||

[digital tulip]

Brother, i thought all ppl used double jump / normal jump and then used binding to.not get hit by that enemy

[minor sparrow]

Turn down sfx volume and only listen to Christopher Peakin's score

[placid pivot]

i never had an issue with the ||circlet ||sfx

[orchid locust]

i tried to jump but my thumb didn’t land on the A button right 💔 💔 💔

[placid pivot]

lk might just be you

[minor sparrow]

Why did you spoiler circlet lol

[timid sky]

This isn't #sk-help

[plucky stag]

just picked up mio from the steam sale

[digital tulip]

Crazy 🥀

[placid pivot]

ok oops

[digital tulip]

Bro tbh

[placid pivot]

lol

[devout oracle]

There's two things I forgot to do for Act 3. Pick up the farsight after getting the silk soar and picking up the rosaries and Shell shards from the Flea pinata

[plucky stag]

i had been indecisive about which game to play next since i just finished my last one (slay the princess)

[minor sparrow]

Damn illusion just left

[orchid locust]

fire

[plucky stag]

the steam sale just helped me get out of the rut

[orchid locust]

double fire did you finish the gallery

[digital tulip]

Lost lace.maybe easier than the gauntlet in high halls

[timid sky]

No he didn't he's still in the server

[plucky stag]

i just played it once, and i decided that's it for me

i am not a completionist in most games

[orchid locust]

fair

[plucky stag]

fun fact: i did it in a single sitting

[digital tulip]

What SK?????

[plucky stag]

slay the princess

the game is short enough to be played in one 3 1/2 hour sitting

[digital tulip]

What?

Is that fr the name of a game???????

[placid pivot]

is slay the princess worth?

bc im not sure if id like it

not really into that type of game

[stable mica]

is that the endless ending game where u r a knight

[plucky stag]

that's probably the worst way to describe the game

[orchid locust]

i’ve never played a visual novel before and i really liked it

[plucky stag]

whether you can even be considered a knight in stp is so far off

[plucky stag]

does night in the woods count as a visual novel

[stable mica]

idk

i heard about it like 2 years ago

[plucky stag]

that one is like 99% story and not much in terms of gameplay

[stable mica]

my memory is kinda vague about it

[orchid locust]

i mean it’s described as a visual novel and it is by definition a visual novel just not very conventional

[sharp slate]

can i interest you guys in some karm reaper gameplay

[orchid locust]

oh wait you’re talking about night in the woods not stp

idk that one i haven’t played it 💔

[plucky stag]

about that one, i'd consider it to be more like an interactive movie than strictly a visual novel

you do get to move mae around her little town and there are a few interactive minigames

[placid pivot]

pretty dang good id say

[plucky stag]

but for the most part there's not much in terms of gameplay, it's 99% a walking and talking simulator

[light swan]

peak

[plucky stag]

with a great story though, don't get me wrong

[placid pivot]

is reaper being the worst crest a hot take?

[glacial kelp]

illusion is it not super late for you

[light swan]

11:09 am

yall have seen enough of my own karm reaper gp

[glacial kelp]

wait im stupid

[stable mica]

cold take

[stable mica]

not yet

[placid pivot]

ok good

way too many people say reaper is good

[graceful cairn]

reaper crest mention 🥹

[icy crow]

Still got no money :spungbob

[glacial kelp]

wait 11am???

[stable mica]

its kinda gud but compare to others its the worst

[glacial kelp]

illusion is west coast that's crazy

[placid pivot]

wanderer overshadows its two purposes so heavily

silk collection and newb friendly

[graceful cairn]

wait thats MY timezone

so unoriginal stealing my timezone smh

[orchid locust]

everyone on the west coast should fight to the death over who gets to have the pst timezone

[stable mica]

more like dps rather than silk

[graceful cairn]

what is pst bro

[placid pivot]

idk

cause its also for a lot of heals

[glacial kelp]

pssst

[orchid locust]

is pacific standard time not a thing is it just called pt

[graceful cairn]

idk timezone names bro 💔

[orchid locust]

🥀

[glacial kelp]

average american...

[graceful cairn]

i think im in mst though

[stable mica]

just -/+ time

[plucky stag]

if you're in british columbia that just recently actually became a thing

they sprung forward as usual a few days ago, but come november they will no longer be falling back

[glacial kelp]

bc removed dst yeah i ehard

[plucky stag]

not quite; they are making dst permanent

[icy crow]

Wanderer may be the fastest of all crests naturally but it falls off in the actual DPS charts

[graceful cairn]

we should all remove dst its stupid

[glacial kelp]

same thing different interpretation

[plucky stag]

so on christmas day this year, vancouver will be one hour ahead of san francisco

and interestingly, they and phoenix will be on the same time zone year round

[sharp slate]

its is good, just not the highest dps

[sharp slate]

It really doesnt though

[glacial kelp]

isn't there like a massive increase in heart attack rates on the dst day

[stable mica]

what r u talking about

[plucky stag]

british columbia will just call their time zone pacific time, no standard or daylight

[sharp slate]

I still have confusion when people say wanderer falls off in damage, and yet there is no video of people doing speedkills with other crests, theory means jack if you cant execute it

[icy crow]

Iirc it comes at 3rd best?

[sharp slate]

are we rating sustained or burst, against what boss

[stable mica]

no its 1st

[sharp slate]

are we including red tools, silk skills

[icy crow]

Base attack speed ≠ total DPS

[stable mica]

it scales up dps

[icy crow]

Just in general

[orchid locust]

wait so when daylight savings ends in the rest of north america will bc be in the equivalent of mountain time

[sharp slate]

in general architect is bust because it can spam tools, but in a dps context it doesnt mean much imo

[icy crow]

DPS is a different factor from the overall speed of a weapon

[plucky stag]

yes; just basically think of arizona time here

[glacial kelp]

pure math in shambles

[plucky stag]

az is in the mountain time zone, but they're on permanent mst

[stable mica]

its damage per second, having faster atack rate means higher dps

[sharp slate]

yea hitting a grand reed in shambles

i have yet to see people account for silk skills in dps, because bosses actually MOVE

[stable mica]

its straight foward

[icy crow]

No? Hunter is slower but it can exceed DPS when at maximum focus

[plucky stag]

because they already have enough sun and heat as it is, they don't need any more in the summer

[icy crow]

Wanderer is just a generic set attack rate with a very niche mechanic

[stable mica]

and wanderer can do it consistently

[sharp slate]

hunter does exceed i will give you that, but its not by much tbh

[plucky stag]

bc wouldn't be the first canadian province to adopt the same time year round though

[icy crow]

Hunter keeps your damage up as long as your focus bar is maximized. Wanderer only stays at the fixed Needle damage

[stable mica]

i mean if u r like god gamer no hit than ye hunter

[sharp slate]

and funny enough wanderer is better than hunter in some speed kills because you damage tank to make the fight faster, context is king

[orchid locust]

question for americans why do people willingly move to arizona

[plucky stag]

saskatchewan is on permanent central standard time

[glacial kelp]

the best crest is the sea of sorrow crest obviously

[stable mica]

but the dps is still higher than base hunter and half focus

[glacial kelp]

they have the iced tea there or something idk

[sharp slate]

architect will always beat out every crest cause tool spam is busted, im curious where shaman sits tbh

[plucky stag]

so during the winter they're in the same time zone as manitoba (cst) but during the summer they're in the same time zone as alberta (mdt)

[icy crow]

Iirc Wanderer also only gets to do critical hits when your silk is maximized

[stable mica]

saying it falls short in dps is just wrong

[sharp slate]

neglibile increase in dps sadly, so i dont really consider it for the sake of dps or i take the average

[stable mica]

thats my main problem here

[glacial kelp]

isnt it like a 4% dps increase do people actually care about that

[icy crow]

Wanderer glazers when they don't look for a DPS chart and just blurt whatever to validate it

[stable mica]

prob

[sharp slate]

i am really curious where shamans sits , but its pretty complicated tbh, with so many silk skills to use and dash cancel tech, i want to see speed kills with shamans tbh

[icy crow]

It's really funny how critical hits are limited until your silk bar is maximized aswell

[lament moth]

Good evening

[sharp slate]

sorry i actually play the game and dont just smack a grand reed

[icy crow]

It only makes it even more generic

[glacial kelp]

it's weird seeing the joke of wanderer hate actually becoming real

[sharp slate]

i think dps arguements are useless until someone proves them mechanically at this point

hunters i aknowledge is better though dps in theory and CONTEXT

[stable mica]

isnt it always

[icy crow]

If Mehe was here it'd be Beast Crest all over lmao

[graceful oyster]

Mio is on sale

[glacial kelp]

does anyone actually believe wanderer is a bad crest

[stable mica]

no

its just no skill

[sharp slate]

not to my knowledge

[stable mica]

and thats all the hate comes from

[sharp slate]

lmfao what a joke

[glacial kelp]

so this arguement is pointless no

[sharp slate]

anyone who says its no skill need to actually do some challenges/no hit bosses

[icy crow]

Wanderer is a good choice for new players but calling it "Quick Slash" to validade it is just funny lol

[orchid locust]

when you have low karma in life so you’re genuinely trapped in samsara to be reincarnated as a choir clapper 2.08 milliseconds away from being slimed the fuck out by mehieddin7

[sharp slate]

its good very exprienced players as well imo

[glacial kelp]

you can't use facts and logic against someone hating for the game

[icy crow]

Where did he even go anyway

[stable mica]

quick slash shenanigans

[stable mica]

thats all the hate comes from

[sharp slate]

wanderer is a really clean crest for moveset, the damage up from flintslate and increase swing speed is so peak

[glacial kelp]

mehiddin reference in big march

[sharp slate]

i love wanderers mainly because it lets me refine my boss tech/strats

[orchid locust]

hes still here he last messages 10 days ago prolly just busy

[stable mica]

it has the most responsive moveset ngl

[icy crow]

Wanderer could have really good setups if you use Barbed Bracelet and keep your silk maximized often

[odd hull]

Me, I don't like it.

[lavish apex]

beast probably has the best dps without the caveat of needing to nohit

[glacial kelp]

don't like != think it's bad

[stable mica]

im not a hater but i do say its kinda no skill

[lavish apex]

well actually shaman but i mean specifically needle hits

[sharp slate]

i think on certain bosses it would, serth for sure, maybe karmalita

[icy crow]

When we stop to realize that 99.9% of arguments here originated because Team Cherry could not properly balance stuff

[sharp slate]

ignoring blocking is so strong on beast, watcher on edge gets bodied funnily

[sharp slate]

I honestly think silksong is pretty solidly balanced, they need to add a cooldown on red tools and buff reaper and i think its pretty fair

[graceful oyster]

Looking in chat and seeing regulars engaging in crest discourse is always sad

Lapse in better judgement

[sharp slate]

god forbid we talk about the game

[icy crow]

They should tweak a handful of things and not make you only get one full mask in act one

[graceful oyster]

Look, it's crest discourse

[sharp slate]

its the most intriguing part as well because there are so many strats

[glacial kelp]

well yeah this is the mio channel

[sharp slate]

sorry let me just post a gif and say 67 ahahasha

[odd hull]

Worse than cursed crest fr

[sharp slate]

there so much cool complex stuff when it comes to silksong and crests and tools tbh

[graceful oyster]

I'll just go back and read the other 3 million messages about it

[glacial kelp]

i think you are evil prpoabbly

[graceful oyster]

Everything at this point is a reiteration

[icy crow]

It's funny how this channel basically has the same Charms blabber from Hollow Knight but this time it's Tools and Crests in the mix

[sharp slate]

or just go to the mio discord 🫡

[graceful oyster]

There's no crest discourse in the MIO discord

Thank the Lord

[sharp slate]

i think there is an intresting discussion to be had about bosses and crests

[glacial kelp]

can the mio devs add crests prety please

[sharp slate]

i like talking about silk skills as well because they hit the balance pretty fricken solid

[odd hull]

Just a bit

[icy crow]

Developers should learn from Team Cherry's mistakes and not add crests in their games

[sharp slate]

rune rage and thread storm need a bit of adjustment maybe but overall its crazy

[icy crow]

Are you implying to buff Thread Storm again or what lol

[minor sparrow]

Did you say another cross stitch buff?

[odd hull]

True

[sharp slate]

i need to do more calcs on damage output based on animation, its okay i think where its at, hard to tell tbh

[icy crow]

Well it can do a whopping 100+ damage per extend iirc

[sharp slate]

cross stitch is oddly fine where its at, maybe you could revert it

[glacial kelp]

i think it's a tad weak but maybe im biased since it was so busted before

[orchid locust]

team cherry balancing crests is like anubis balancing a heart against a feather except the heart belongs to like saddam hussein

[icy crow]

If anything the only thing I see fit is to actually make Rune Rage target better

[sharp slate]

extended also is costing you time to cast, extendinng the animation

not a bad thing its a lot of damage

just a consideration

[odd hull]

Best commentary I have ever seen

[sharp slate]

pale nails is so intresting to me as well because it allows you to preload so much damage

[glacial kelp]

i vote we don't buff rune rage directly but instead we have a sinner rematch which does buff it

[minor sparrow]

Honestly I'm mostly fine with the crest balancing crest discourse aside

[devout oracle]

so far, i made it to karmelita's battle cry

[sharp slate]

for example at raging conchflies you can use pale nails to preloads a SHIT TON of damage

[minor sparrow]

I actually talk in chat because I enjoy the game I play

[sharp slate]

same with LL and unravelled

[plucky stag]

this game is also 20% off

if you have a friend who you want to play this game now is your chance to gift it to them

[glacial kelp]

going in silksong discussion and not expecting crest discourse no forks in kitchen

[sharp slate]

One of the cool things as well is when Unnamed did their hitless all bosses shit, they would rotate silk skills as well based on the line up of bosses which is really cool in concept

rotating between spear, nails, or cross stitch based on the bosses

[minor sparrow]

Something like that could be cool for upgrading stuff but idk rune rage just feels wonky to use

[icy crow]

I want to play MIO but I got no money

It's still a whopping 63 BRL here. Hell this economy is

[plucky stag]

i was talking about silksong though

that's why i said "also"

[minor sparrow]

Spring sale go brrr

[icy crow]

Yeah I was just pinpointing how some sales are bleak lol

Silksong would probably be affordable again here though

[sharp slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBPHQlSLsTo if anyones intrested

[plucky stag]

so many games on my library are on sale

[sharp slate]

really cool watching them change tools and silk skills based on boss section

[odd hull]

80 to 63, ong bro

[minor sparrow]

Ikr....factorio

[icy crow]

Me waiting for the fabled pé-de-meia to kick in

[molten knoll]

after a small bit of testing

i discovered needolin cannot interrupt an enemy's action

take for example, massive mossgrub

while it charges, you cannot stun it with needolin

with or without spider strings

[odd hull]

I love some Silks of Mind

[molten knoll]

if you're above it, though,. and it cant ram

then you can stun it easy

i wonder how the devs could make needolin

yknow. actually good.

[odd hull]

lmaooo we can hope

[glacial kelp]

is this not diminished by scream skips

[old raft]

bro its 3:40 am and i got to phase 3

[lunar birch]

i beat that shi 2nd attempt

[old raft]

while being naked?

[glacial kelp]

are you playing in scratch what is this window

[old raft]

its macos

for the recording quailty i have to play on windowed

silly mac moment

[brave geyser]

Scrumptious

[brave geyser]

Cool.
They are doing their own challenge though. They do 3 damage with shit range. No tools or silk skills. No faydown/drifters cloak and clawline

iam not even sure if they can parry any attacks if necessary

[lunar birch]

bro i killed the boss with hunters crest and no addons

No nail upgrades too

[brave geyser]

Do it with even less damage then and worse movement (just dash and wall climb)

[minor sparrow]

The haunting, basically

[minor sparrow]

Reaper

[lunar birch]

i........ barely even used double jump and float

[brave geyser]

still used

eitherway they got to phase 3 which does take a long ass time. Ggs to that.

[still osprey]

Do damage modifiers even apply while you're crestless

[odd hull]

Indeed. Absent of life.

[still osprey]

Or is it like, a set 3 damage

[glacial kelp]

as in like the nail level mods?

[still osprey]

Yea

[minor sparrow]

Good question, I would assume set but I'm not sure

[glacial kelp]

good question i assum enot

this is testable in game right so

[still osprey]

Like, for example, Moorwing has a damage modifier of 2, so it takes 10 damage from needle0 instead of the base 5

[old raft]

its always 3 according to the wiki

[still osprey]

I'd imagine being crestless is always 3 damage since you have no needle for enemies to modify the damage of

[glacial kelp]

to balance out the slab sequence i imagine it would apply

[old raft]

ty

[icy crow]

Bro thought we'd not notice AI in this

[still osprey]

Yea while needle0 deals 8.5 damage to Lost Lace and you actually have range too

[old raft]

i dont think parry is possible

i cant even pogo on her dash attack cuz of the shi range

[still osprey]

Parrying is not possible while crestless I'm like 99% sure

Pogoing on hazards also isn't possible

[old raft]

ye i learned that one the hard way

[orchid locust]

is that ai generated or am i just being mean to the artist

[untold dune]

it looks pretty ai

yellow filter aah

[brittle tartan]

I can agree, that looks suspicous

[median fractal]

wtf thats just a small ass oblobble and the fucking eclipse sun from dark souls 3

[old raft]

the most annoying thing i feel is that i dont have ever blossom

[median fractal]

also chat I just found markoth in my bathroom, do I initiate a fight? what if it's radiant?

[old raft]

so i just lose 2 silk every time i got hit
its a greater punishment

[icy crow]

Why do most AI images with that same slopstyle have that horrible piss yellow filter

[odd hull]

It's AI.

[orchid locust]

where did ai get the yellow filer from anyway 😭 did its dataset get infected by fallout new vegas or sm

[steady walrus]

slop

[untold dune]

the yellow effect is a very real thing with generative ai, the more it trains on itself, the yellower its output becomes

[orchid locust]

can’t wait for dlss 5 to turn every game setting into mexico

[fallow moth]

I finnaly just beat silksong , it was so peak ( the reason I only just beat it because I took a massive break once I got to act 3 )

[untold dune]

is mexico ai generated...?

[brave geyser]

How much hp does LL have again

[old raft]

1800

[steady walrus]

1.8k

[brave geyser]

then 5 → 3 damage is a huge difference

[orchid locust]

somewhere between 5 and 1800

[brittle tartan]

1800

[brave geyser]

that's like 600 hits

[untold dune]

1

[steady walrus]

WAIT

[orchid locust]

the mexico yellow filter

[steady walrus]

i fought first sinner in act 3

she had 2160 hp

[vivid horizon]

Why

[brave geyser]

Huh

[steady walrus]

yeah

[untold dune]

did u play with mods

[brave geyser]

That's the exact same hp she has in the pantheon of pharloom mod

[vivid horizon]

Why we fighting first sinner in the 3rd act

[steady walrus]

only had healthbar mod

[untold dune]

i mean theres no difference between act 2 or 3

[vivid horizon]

Fairs

[icy crow]

She only has 1300 health

[old raft]

ye its not lost sinner

[steady walrus]

i lwk forgor to fight her that's why

[steady walrus]

i had full needle btw

[vivid horizon]

last sinner?

That's why he fought it in the last act

[old raft]

12th sinner

idk there are too many

[orchid locust]

second sinner

[untold dune]

third thinner

[graceful oyster]

Truck

[minor sparrow]

fourth fhinner

[orchid locust]

fifth finner

[untold dune]

twelfth twinner

[orchid locust]

tenth tenner

[minor sparrow]

fy fpotify fs flaying fn fhe frong fevice

[vast bolt]

I hate flying enemies. I hate flying enemies. I hate flying enemies.

[graceful oyster]

Clawline

[orchid locust]

fhe fluefoofh fevice fs fow fonnected

[minor sparrow]

fo fou fate flying fenemies?

[untold dune]

whats that

[minor sparrow]

why did I laugh at that

[vast bolt]

Especially these bell throwing enemies and Soul Master wannabes.

[brave geyser]

And yet you are playing silksong

[fiery burrow]

Clawline and tools

[graceful oyster]

Ass hairpin

[old raft]

sixth beastfly

[brave geyser]

Okay true though

[graceful oyster]

I laughed as I was typing that

I'm so grown and mature

[icy crow]

This Zoteboat NPC lowk crazy

[untold dune]

mio clears irregardless 🥱

[graceful oyster]

Asshair pin

[minor sparrow]

mio clears the chimneys

[vast bolt]

At least I purged these Clawmaidens once for all, so they don't have to annoy me in the gauntlet.

[brave geyser]

True

[fiery burrow]

i only have ||one candle left to go|| in Mio 🙏

[vivid horizon]

Tacks 🤤

[graceful oyster]

Oof that's always the trickiest one.
There are like 2 spots I know of that people always forget so lmk if you want help.

[limber swallow]

Isn’t it kinda weird that witch bind does less damage than thread storm by default

[brave geyser]

Bitch

[brave geyser]

Witch bind: gifted power
Threadstorm: pure effort

[worn reef]

so silksong by april possibly?

dlc

[brave geyser]

Most likely

[limber swallow]

Isn't this almost definitely rhe opposite

[brave geyser]

How tho

[worn reef]

guys is the upgraded mirror worth getting

[brave geyser]

If you are a witch/beast main

[worn reef]

trobbio is annoying

ok

[limber swallow]

I mean like, I don't think getting infested with a plant baby, then having to have an abortion is smth I'd describe as a "gift"

[brave geyser]

You don't need it for 100% either

[worn reef]

well I'm having trouble with the last dark heart boss

[brave geyser]

Threadstorm: gifted power
Witch bind: pure effort

[worn reef]

I barely use witch

[brave geyser]

I see the vision now

[worn reef]

idk if I should

[brave geyser]

Ty shush

[worn reef]

I use hunter or reaper

[brave geyser]

Yea then it's probably not worth it

[limber swallow]

np gang

[worn reef]

ok

[brave geyser]

Who's the last heart boss?

[worn reef]

karmelita or clover dancers

[limber swallow]

I'd probably advise a spell build with Flintslate for Hunter ngl

If you use it properly (focus building) then you're gonna have a fuckton of extra silk, so yeah, spells

[worn reef]

clover dancer runback is mildly annoying even with the shortcut

[hushed girder]

I didn’t know if you went to hunters march early, shakra helps you fight

[worn reef]

yes

thats how you get the map

[hushed girder]

I was tired of dying on steel soul so I went straight there

[hushed girder]

I usually get the map in a certain room, not there

[worn reef]

Ah

[hushed girder]

But it’s nice to know

[limber swallow]

God I really need to play this fuckin game

[worn reef]

its worth it

[limber swallow]

I wanna really test shit

Like, my friends are super against Witch and think the bind is rng-dependent and I can't properly prove to them that it isn't 😭

[graceful cairn]

why are they lying

[limber swallow]

😭

[brave geyser]

Clawline in one hour and 25 minutes is this good steel soul pace

[limber swallow]

Seems in line with getting speedrun 2 + steel soul I'd think?

[gusty igloo]

hello

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241006754343551077/1484078028119081021/caption.gif

[brave geyser]

Iam doing a run with no upgrades i just check the times every now and then

[limber swallow]

Wait speedrun 2 is a HK thing, whatever you know what I meant

[brave geyser]

Beating the game in sub 2 hours with my current build would be really funny

Especially since iam going for double jump too

[worn reef]

i'm still working on 2nd file to get the corrupted ending

also who else like animal well like I do

[gusty igloo]

terra hand reveal

[timid sky]

No upgrades? Like lv 0 needle always?

[worn reef]

I can't imagine a 0 upgrade nail run in silksong

I haven't even fought lost lace yet

cause I'm stuck on karmelita/clover dancers

[limber swallow]

Oh yeah that would suck in act 3 lol

[livid night]

First time going to a club w a chopped ahhh jacket. SAVE ME

[old raft]

this is what no sea of sorrow do to ppl

[subtle lynx]

WHAT

HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

[old raft]

know what

[livid night]

fEaTuRe

[worn reef]

whats spoilered

[old raft]

FUCKING YES worth grabbing all memento?

[brave geyser]

Yea but if i plan on going to act 3 i might be forced to upgrade it once

[subtle lynx]

Yesterday I didn't know that the Everbloom made the void tendrils disappear

[livid night]

No

[brave geyser]

Fr?

[old raft]

they dont disappear just cant hurt you

[livid night]

If ya have skill everything possible

[brave geyser]

is that like a latest patch thing or has it always been this way

[subtle lynx]

Know I learn that it also made void attacks don't consume silk if you have it

[livid night]

They tingle u

[subtle lynx]

What else can that thing do

[brave geyser]

No like the game doesn't let you go to act 3 unless you upgrade your needle once

[glacial kelp]

yeah im pretty sure it's an act 3 req

[livid night]

Whaaaaaa?

[old raft]

being pretty and chilling in your bag

[subtle lynx]

The only good requirement

[livid night]

I dont remember upgrading my needle before lost lace

[cursive torrent]

oh right lmao

[glacial kelp]

if you check the wiki it's listed in there

[old raft]

reminds you of flower quest in hk

[copper arch]

@jagged tinsel

[livid night]

Also I am fckd cuz i was too good at the mist

[subtle lynx]

The first upgrade is free

[livid night]

Ah

[copper arch]

@tiny urchin :3

[graceful oyster]

Keep trying you'll get it

[livid night]

Maybe that

[twin summit]

Sadly, for some reason, this doesn't work

[copper arch]

@jagged tinsel

[brave geyser]

Should i get double yump first or high halls

[glacial kelp]

kid named everyone:

[copper arch]

@jagged tinsel

[copper arch]

@queen maple

[brave geyser]

Why are we spam pinging different people

[old raft]

bro is hacked or something

where are the mods

[copper arch]

Not ban from Brasil

[glacial kelp]

no they are just extremely funny

[copper arch]

Vou falar frase em inglês uga uga

Feijão com farinha

I espiqui inglisih

[copper arch]

Not funny? You fuck

Fuck you

[twin summit]

Ts is genuinely comedy

[glacial kelp]

if you read what i said carefully you'll notice i said you were extremely funny

[graceful oyster]

[copper arch]

I ispiqui Brasil bro

[icy crow]

Those "everyone" pings are all just users named after that by the way

[gusty igloo]

im bored

[copper arch]

Falar português

Agorauh

[glacial kelp]

hellr tera

[icy crow]

This server allows English only

Either use a translator or whatever

[copper arch]

No english no

[graceful oyster]

Play Mio: Memories in Orbit

[icy crow]

Using a translator is not hard by any means so

[graceful oyster]

It's on sale

[twin summit]

Don't play mio

[gusty igloo]

hellr

[copper arch]

Is muy hard

[gusty igloo]

i dont havce money

[icy crow]

Praying I get money next week so I can buy it

Whopping 63 BRL here despite the -20% sale

Not much of an effect

[graceful oyster]

Zimbabwe dollars

[brave geyser]

y'all

Double jump first or high halls

[old raft]

double jump ig

feels ezer than high hall

[glacial bane]

Yea triple jump

[glacial kelp]

hhg is cooler

[glacial bane]

*double

[brave geyser]

Okay

[azure patrol]

Tbh Reaper hate in sk is no different than the "wayward fompass OP" gag in hk. They mock it as if it didn't carry their first playthough lmao

[reef scarab]

I feel so sorrowful!

[torn rock]

not even close tbh

[azure patrol]

It is
Though gameplay wise reaper gives same feeling as Long nail / mop in hk

[glacial bane]

I hate witch crst

[old raft]

never used reaper in my first play thru besides the time between i got it and find a bench

[vast grove]

🇸🇪🇦 🇴🇫 🇸🇴🇷🇷🇴🇼 🇹🇴🇲🇴🇷🇷🇴🇼

[glacial bane]

What do you think is the one worst beast exploration aspect

Mine is binding

[brave geyser]

Time for my favourite yet most predictable question

Am i ready

[rocky jolt]

Select

[graceful cairn]

yeah youre fine man

[light swan]

yea whats crazy

[glacial kelp]

i thought you werent na by the hours you were awake

[subtle lynx]

we ranking anything nowadays dude

give these guys a dlc

[rocky jolt]

get ready for the gauntlet tierlist soon

[light swan]

i’m always awake

[subtle lynx]

why is the second sentinel pilgrim so high

[rocky jolt]

because hes dope

[subtle lynx]

why

[rocky jolt]

idk he just is

[subtle lynx]

is the guy in A tier the vault-child enemy pilgrim

also, the 2 half way home pilgrims are way too low

[worthy lintel]

Lol what

[subtle lynx]

they are so sweet

[graceful oyster]

9Sols being 50% off almost makes me want to play it

[brave geyser]

It's go time

[rocky jolt]

what if it was 51% off

[graceful oyster]

Also Caves of Qud (peak game, possibly the best roguelike, at least top 3) is 20% off which is the best it gets

So, really, there's no excuse not to play

[graceful oyster]

If it was 70% probably

[lucid forum]

I think i know that bench

wish you the most luck

[odd hull]

If it was -100% off

[rocky jolt]

what is that name bro

[split flume]

slopfest

[hushed girder]

Are you doing a 5 mask run or something?

[tight meadow]

The shaw men ranking

[hushed girder]

Takes some balls fr

[brave geyser]

Steel soul no upgrades

[hushed girder]

Damn bro

[modest stirrup]

Holy crap hollow knight 1 is on sale

[hushed girder]

You’ve been through some torment before I’m guessing

[stable pilot]

Did I even watch the seventh

Anyways must be a cypher

[hushed girder]

I only watched episode 1 lmao

[elfin pumice]

Hi goose

[stable pilot]

Not a ceaser cypher

[brave geyser]

Free

[glacial bane]

What is your bind button and where is taunt

[brave geyser]

Bind is bottom right corner taunt is upper left corner

[glacial bane]

And why do you have both silkspear and cross stitch

[brave geyser]

I have cross stitch because phantom is awesome mist route is fast and idk why

[exotic cedar]

Pretty sure silkspear logo is silk skill button

[glacial bane]

Ik but why do you have silkspear equipped too

[glacial bane]

Oooh

[rocky jolt]

Hello bro

[brave geyser]

I don't that's what the button looks like

[glacial bane]

Bro this is so sussy

[rocky jolt]

can someone draw this with zylotol and plasmium

[glacial bane]

Who knows how to get silkdart

[glacial bane]

?

But palestitch will do too

[hoary oyster]

what do you mean?

like the dash

[woeful egret]

GUYS

WHAT IF SEA OF SORROW IS ACTUALLY AN SOS MESSAGE FROM TEAM CHERRY!! TRUST

[rocky jolt]

what the heck is blud waffling about

[glacial bane]

WAIT

[hoary oyster]

maybe the sharp dart

[analog mist]

wormways

[slender juniper]

@strange knot Could you please tell me the manifest ID for the second silksong patch, having trouble with steam MD

[slender juniper]

(the one on September 22nd)

[coarse leaf]

fighting pinstress

[worldly valve]

why is it called wormways and not wyrmways

[fiery burrow]

iirc sharpdart is in ||wormways|| and needs ||clawline||

[analog mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-if-sorrow-silksong-tomorrow-hollow-knight-gif-12013056154277092895

[woeful egret]

BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BE YELLING “SEA OF SORROW TOMORROW!” AND THE SHORTENED ONE IS SOS TOMORROW

[glacial bane]

Yes but i neeed silkdart

[coarse leaf]

i just wasted all my tools on pinstress

[normal bramble]

God I adore the silk rifle

Is it the best item ever? No.

[woeful egret]

IS TEAM CHERRY IN DANGER?

[normal bramble]

But it’s a whole damn rifle

[hoary oyster]

yeah you need double jump i think

[glacial bane]

Bind skip

[normal bramble]

You can make it without double jump

[hoary oyster]

idk what is silk dart are you saying sharp dart?

that too

[normal bramble]

A well timed bind and running start can you there

[glacial bane]

Or gk skip its easier

[hoary oyster]

yeah

anyways what is a silk dart

are you saying sharpdart?

[glacial bane]

Idk but imagine silk: spear, storm, dart, stitch, nails and rage

Thats what i want

[hoary oyster]

so your talking about a silk spell you want in the game?

[glacial bane]

Im just saying shit

[hoary oyster]

oh alright

lowkey that sound op

[sturdy ore]

sup

[hoary oyster]

sup

[glacial bane]

sul

[strange knot]

wtf is manifest id I don’t fucking know to be honest

[hoary oyster]

its my first time talking to anyone on discord

[strange knot]

Is it patch number?

[hoary oyster]

so far good exp

[slender juniper]

Downpatcing the game through steam console

[slender juniper]

Yes

I figured it out now

[sturdy ore]

[graceful cairn]

fantastic

[strange knot]

Idk for the second patch ima check it rq

[odd hull]

what

[strange knot]

@slender juniper idk which ones you need but here

[graceful cairn]

phtantom

[hoary oyster]

idk maybe they fixed something with a spelling error

[glacial bane]

Try Phantom without t

[sturdy ore]

:perm: :kitsune: :offer: :venom::dough:

[hoary oyster]

yeah what they said

[glacial bane]

Pe

[slender juniper]

EUGH WHY CAN'T SILKSONG JUST HAVE EASY DOWNPATCHES

[glacial bane]

#make silk rage

[slender juniper]

I can't downpatch the game because my SSD is full

[hoary oyster]

whats a downpatch

[slender juniper]

FUCK THIS SHIT

[strange knot]

Delete normal sk

[slender juniper]

I did

[glacial bane]

@slender juniper i have no idea what any of those words mean

[hoary oyster]

me neither

[strange knot]

Oh how tf do you not have memory on ssd

[broken seal]

Hard is subjective and just because someone dies doesn't mean it's difficult. anything will have some level of increased difficulty for new players.

[slender juniper]

I have a SSD and a data

My SSD folder is full of shit so I use my data

[hoary oyster]

ah yes downpatch yes yes

ssd yes yes

[subtle lynx]

That was my entire point thanks

[slender juniper]

Even tho I made steam automatically download to data

IT STILL FUCKING TRIED TO DOWNLOAD TO SSD RAAaarafh

[strange knot]

Ok bye I gotta go sleep now, gl monor

[hoary oyster]

goodbye

random smart dude

[glacial bane]

Same

[broken seal]

[glacial bane]

Almost midnight

[slender juniper]

WDYM DISK IS FULL FUCK YOU STEAM

Aguahaoahaiaj

[hoary oyster]

good bye random crazy dude

[hoary oyster]

talkin to you

[timid valve]

@slender juniper I remember seeing a mod somewhere that just turns Silksong into v.1.0

[glacial bane]

Uea i know

[slender juniper]

That's called downpatching

[timid valve]

No, a mod. On Thunderstore.

[hoary oyster]

ive now learned what a downpatch is

[slender juniper]

Mods aren't allowed for speedruning

[timid valve]

ah, for speedrunning

[exotic cedar]

Why do you need to downpatch though

[timid valve]

Thought you were like me, tried to fight Seth in act 2

[graceful cairn]

whats so hard about downpatching bro

[hoary oyster]

how do you downpatch?

[timid valve]

This is what's hard ^

no one knows how to properly do it

[hoary oyster]

ay

but seriously how do you downpatch

[timid valve]

I've once watched a tutorial, but the game was just black when launching it. I eventually gave up.

[hoary oyster]

i see...

[hearty wren]

Silksong is so fuckin big

Like damn

[hoary oyster]

fr

[exotic cedar]

Big and content rich

[hoary oyster]

but i think thats what makes it fun

[hearty wren]

Doing 100% on second run feels so long and fun

[hoary oyster]

yeah

ive never 100% before

but it sounds insane

[gritty sage]

Shut up

[hoary oyster]

ay

why cant i talk

[gritty sage]

Haha

[hearty wren]

Comparing to hollow knight
Silksong 100 percent is like you have to basically do every single thing in hk you can leave many things

[exotic cedar]

Eh don't listen to them

[gritty sage]

Jk

[exotic cedar]

Talk all you want

[hearty wren]

That isn't the case with silksong

[hoary oyster]

thank you

oh ok

[gritty sage]

🤣

[exotic cedar]

Its because of hk dlcs, it will prob be like in sk too if it gets dlcs

[hearty wren]

Quick question do i need to get every single memory locket for 100 percent

[exotic cedar]

No

Not every

[hearty wren]

Okie

[still osprey]

No you just need 32 total skill/tool slots unlocked

Hunter doesn't count towards the total

[hearty wren]

Yeah I guess but damn silksong is big as f

[still osprey]

tbf hk 100% is also like, really weird

Like, some bosses themselves count as %

Tho silksong 100% is also weird cuz why don't the cloaks count towards %

[hearty wren]

That's crazy

[timid valve]

what cloaks
Drifter's, faydown?

[exotic cedar]

Wtf they don't?

Crazy

[hoary oyster]

whats a cloak

[still osprey]

Yea neither Drifter's or Faydown count towards 100%

[hearty wren]

Wth

[hoary oyster]

oh

those cloaks

why??????

[hearty wren]

I wished all spools didn't count for 100 percent

[still osprey]

But the tools? Yea that's 51% completion right there

[hoary oyster]

ive never found all the spools

or tools

[hearty wren]

Bu there are 57 tools

[still osprey]

Yea idk it's weird

Tools are only 51% not 57

I don't remember exactly why

[hoary oyster]

maybe its also factoring

[lavish apex]

there are plenty of measured accomplishments that don't count towards 100% in skong

[hoary oyster]

the book

[hearty wren]

So is there a list of tools that don't count for 51 ?

[timid valve]

With snare setter, all silkshots, plasmium phial, druid's eyes, curvesickle and claw mirrors?

[hoary oyster]

the hunter book

[glacial kelp]

skills

there are 6 skills

[lavish apex]

yeah silk skills

[hearty wren]

Yeah

[hoary oyster]

oh

[light swan]

my english teacher is having me analyze a poem

and i just realized its about Hades (the game)

and everyhign fucking makes sense now holy fucking shit

[hoary oyster]

so in this case does a skill also count as a tool?

[still osprey]

Ohhh that makes a lot more sense yea duh ofc it's silk skills

[lavish apex]

i want to know what it is

what's it called

[hearty wren]

So tools are 51 and the 57 are slots in which 6 are the skills

[glacial kelp]

why is it about the game dawg

[exotic cedar]

Why not!!

[light swan]

good riddance by deesoul carson

[still osprey]

Yea and each silk skill is also a %

Each crest is also a % so that is over 60% completion related to crests

[glacial kelp]

infamously spiders started producing silk after silksong came out

[still osprey]

And ofc sylphsong too cuz why not

[hoary oyster]

thank you all for teaching me stuff that i might not use

[timid valve]

Snare Setter is so underrated as an actual tool.

[still osprey]

Snare Setter is great

It kinda sucks that you lose it in Act 3

[exotic cedar]

Honestly i never really used it

[balmy wraith]

i never got to use it cuz act 3

[lavish apex]

oh this is cool

[glacial kelp]

i feel like snare setter glazers understand something that i dont

[timid valve]

Max cap of max dmg snare setters can in theory drop Karmelita below 50% hp

[hoary oyster]

????????????

insane

[still osprey]

The main problems snare setter has are the same problems silkshot has

[timid valve]

Max cap is 10
Max dmg is 85
85 x 10 = 850 dmg

[steep jolt]

i only got snare setter to get 100%

[still osprey]

There is a windup, and it costs Silk

[steep jolt]

yeah you can also just use your needle

[glacial kelp]

well yeah no shit you need it for te

[light swan]

its a roguelike in poem form, subtly representing zagreus

[minor sparrow]

no the problem with snare setter is that you can't bring it into act 3

[light swan]

its so cool

[steep jolt]

and it gets rid of the good part of it which is that silk shot is a gun

lol

[minor sparrow]

this is true

[light swan]

the center literally says "There's no escape in death, no honor" which is so similar to "There is no escape" when you die

[minor sparrow]

bro is downloading 1 megabyte per sometimes

[steep jolt]

didnt actually take that long