sk-discussion

[charred ruin]

he dont talk tho all bro says is huap hua ha and other fighting noises 😭

[earnest drift]

where did this come from

[trim estuary]

my brain

[subtle lynx]

Here you go: #sk-discussion message

[slim thorn]

idk, i got like 80 and 90
i got no idea if that is good either

[meager jolt]

Based

[charred ruin]

i mean link from zelda

[earnest drift]

I can’t recall a single game protagonist confirmed to be straight

[subtle lynx]

Ik I'm just being funny

[rocky jolt]

the citadel of song should be up ahead

[pastel plank]

interesting words for me to witness as I enter the channel

[hardy tangle]

super mario

[pastel plank]

just fyi hornet is confirmed to be the protagonist of silksons

[meager jolt]

Welcome

[hardy tangle]

cant wait to play as hornet

[rocky jolt]

BREAKING: hornet is confirmed a bug

[hardy tangle]

so hype for silksong!

[exotic cedar]

You can now play as luigi

[pastel plank]

hollow knight silksonf is a mage

gema

game

[earnest drift]

ok

[light swan]

pearl: the heart

[pastel plank]

agreed tbh

Hornet's sexuality is homophobic though

[steep jolt]

WHAT

wtf is wrong with my internet man

[exotic cedar]

What are you trying to dowland

[steep jolt]

coding thing

[hardy tangle]

hollow knight 3

[exotic cedar]

Pablo

[pastel plank]

Hollow Knight: 3

Hollow Knight :3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1444952928786976789/fleapetting.webp

[hardy tangle]

team cherry told me silksong is their last game

[steep jolt]

team cherry children will make hollow knight pablo

[exotic cedar]

Good.

[graceful oyster]

Ho way

[pastel plank]

it's not true, in the interview they said they will make hollow knight games until they die

[still osprey]

Finally

[hardy tangle]

didnt they say they'll make other games just not sure if it will be hk universe

[steep jolt]

im gonna try mio soon

[rocky jolt]

hollow knight and silksong servers shutdown as developers have went bankrupt

[steep jolt]

whenever i get my allowance

🤑

[hardy tangle]

imagine if hollow knight flopped and team cherry starved to death

[graceful oyster]

Exciting

[earnest drift]

this would’ve happened if they made silksong first

[slim thorn]

it keeping singing by itself is some bug right?

[steep jolt]

they would embrace the void in their stomachs

[hardy tangle]

dream no more cus theyre dead

[pastel plank]

Seriously speaking, they did say that the only time concern they have is death, but they will continue making new stuff. The next game shouldn't be HK yeah

[exotic cedar]

Why is this scary

[rocky jolt]

ill only buy mio when its -95% off

[pastel plank]

The next game is likely Fearless Fox

[steep jolt]

spring break it will be at least 25% off

[hardy tangle]

they will make the next friendslop game

[pastel plank]

isn't that the bud?

bugpilled metroidvaniaslop

[slim thorn]

what bud

[exotic cedar]

Twisted one, bud

[pastel plank]

the twisted one

[steep jolt]

if the next game isnt hk i will destroy team small red thing with a pit

[light swan]

omg ppl are trying mio

[steep jolt]

yea

[slim thorn]

nope

[rocky jolt]

sounds like a hl2 zombie bro

[hardy tangle]

i dropped mio when i saw clankers..

[pastel plank]

then it's the mitemother my beloved

[exotic cedar]

I hope next tc game is not metroidvania

[steep jolt]

im only playing it because i want to relearn my memories in orbit

[pastel plank]

I LOVE them they scream so funnily

[graceful oyster]

I dropped mio when it was a baby

[rocky jolt]

no way they ai generated the game

[light swan]

mio dropped me when i was a baby

[graceful oyster]

Makes sense

[light swan]

[pastel plank]

I tried mio but personally didn't like it

[steep jolt]

pls can we have a triple a slop 200 dollar game with 300 dollars of dlc that should be included in base game

[pastel plank]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silk-song-silk-song-gif-18081791829615342079

[graceful oyster]

L

[light swan]

anyways bye guys back to thermohalyn circulation, grynne you can keep up the mio agenda

[exotic cedar]

I want something different from tc

[graceful oyster]

No I can't stay

[pastel plank]

bro is so abortion advertisement-coded

[exotic cedar]

Maybe a rougelite? Idk

[hardy tangle]

they should do the thing the phineas and ferb creator did and make new games but have so many cameos of hollow knight characters that it just feels like its the same universe

[pastel plank]

I didn't like the combat system personally, and the overall designed seemed a bit awkward to me

[steep jolt]

this reminds me of the time i bathed in blood. a bloodbath, some would say

[pastel plank]

https://tenor.com/view/red-paper-coach-meme-gif-11221063440541197155

[graceful oyster]

Was it just not hollow Knight enough

[cunning geode]

and you DIDNT INVITE ME?

[pastel plank]

didn't say that, just didn't enjoy it, especially the visuals honestly, from the trailers I was just expecting something different

[steep jolt]

never have i seen more fear

[light swan]

surprised about the visuals

[trim estuary]

No I’m still in chat 😌

[light swan]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bloodbath-geometry-dash-1

[hardy tangle]

when i unlocked the pogo in nine sls

[exotic cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1116215328528150568/1475325738680062157/RDT_20260221_1129109160741994621390533.jpg?ex=69bc0eea&is=69babd6a&hm=617b392a54fb0ca5c13fcbe78da1c2b629f64a62213752ab9c571fc9d4ede4ad&

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/riy9gkgK0dS.gif

[graceful oyster]

Yeah it was way worse in the trailers

[light swan]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gdloops-geometry-dash-5

[exotic cedar]

ion even play gd btw

I just wanted to send that

[short turret]

Did this actually happen?

[slim thorn]

this tool is cool, it almost makes it look like my nail does some damage

[light swan]

WAIT HOW THE FUCK does weoweoteos part loop back on itself ?????

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/geometry-dash-meme

[short turret]

No way

[light swan]

crazy loop

[light swan]

bros teeth is death corridor

https://klipy.com/gifs/gdloops-geometry-dash-9

[hardy tangle]

i would try gd if it was more rhythm based

[exotic cedar]

Gd looks like pain anguish and misery

[pastel plank]

I want an alternative version of silksong where every single enemy is this

[exotic cedar]

WHY tf i misspell everything

[light swan]

gd is a mobile game itsn ot some rpg that takes 60 hours

[pastel plank]

ohhhh illusion it's you

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/GTe-xEtOLFY

[pastel plank]

the one who made crazy edits with the witch

[light swan]

edits or clips

[pastel plank]

was it your own btw?

[light swan]

i dont do a lot of edits

[hardy tangle]

do people still care about crowsworn

[pastel plank]

both i guess

[exotic cedar]

Yeah, the witch clips are so good it's almost an illusion

[hardy tangle]

developers be like: I LOVE NOT RELEASING GAMES!

[light swan]

i need to make the fuckin "Witch Crest but explained in JJK" videos

[pastel plank]

so, warding bell inscreases the damage delt by the bind?

[light swan]

if you purposely activate it by getting hit at the end of your bind, yes

[raw pawn]

Sea of sorrow some day

[pastel plank]

Sea of sorrow that one time when it comes out

[slim thorn]

if we already payed the bench
sherma should be resting on it

[hardy tangle]

aint that just built in warding bell

[light swan]

yea

[exotic cedar]

His ass should be sitting on the ground.

[hardy tangle]

does it do that much damage

[exotic cedar]

The bench is hornets throne

[light swan]

31 damage, not a lot

[raw pawn]

Who's us Sherma? /j

[slim thorn]

i already found an exploit with the tool
you couldnt do this with sawtooth i guess?

[hardy tangle]

i dont see any witch users using multibinder so im guessing the interaction there is lame

[light swan]

um.... how have you never seen witches use multibinder

[raw pawn]

Btw where the hell does the rhinogrund go if I let it escape and the mechanism in pilgrim rest is still intact?

[light swan]

ive literally never seen a witch clip without multibinder

[hardy tangle]

is clawmirror just that bright i cant even see 2 heals

[light swan]

it makes the tentacles hit 4 times

which makes witch bind regularly go from 63 damage to 84 damage

[raw pawn]

Can't the mirrors kill the enemy before you can heal?

[light swan]

every bind here uses multibinder

[still osprey]

What is this

[light swan]

not really, the mirrors always activate after the tentacles

unless you have multibinder and NOT injector bands, in which the mirrors activate in the middle, after the first two

in which case you only get 2 heals

but that interaction is necessary for waridng bind to work

[slim thorn]

mod
i think its the only new tools mod i have seen

[still osprey]

‼️

[slim thorn]

the first one i got was like temporary full time shade dash

and just recently another 2

[wispy summit]

I know just about nothing about this game; ask me anything about hk/sk and i'll answer

[raw pawn]

Surprised there aren't modded crests mods other than weaver queen

[hardy tangle]

reddit ass message

[slim thorn]

it may have some bugs but it seems ok so far
altough i saw someone say it had some performance issue somewhere i think? but maybe that is an old version or smt

[wispy summit]

if i post it on reddit it will probably get deleted lol

[exotic dome]

baddies are gone 😔

[raw pawn]

Grindle is the best shopkeeper in item randomizer

[exotic dome]

circlet is broken in every aspect

[hardy tangle]

except being quiet its not good at that

[light swan]

Shaman's crest takes silk skills, some of the highest damaging attacks in Silksong Sorcery ranging from triple to over quadruple regular damage, and multiplies those silk skills with it's own innate technique. This innate technique allows Shamans to increase the silk skill damage by 40 percent, enough to wipe out most enemies. However using a binding vow known as Volt Filament, Shamans sacrifice a blue slot to further increase their already strong silk skills by another 25 percent.

When timed correctly, Extended Thread Storm with the user's innate technique and Volt Filament binding vow will deal the highest possible damage in all of Silksong Kaisen.

With the sole exception of Witch Bind, of course.

dont forget to have this song playing in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s-NKe-2ZAk

[slim thorn]

what is IMpossible:
1-triple jump
2-coral tower without using movement keys (jump allowed)
3-double the amount of heal explosions
4-final boss hitless

[hardy tangle]

bitch wind

[raw pawn]

Triple jump?

[slim thorn]

wait

i meant IMPOSIBBLE*******

[light swan]

also technically witch's max needle strike can deal more damage than warding bind according to lace

holy fuck am i hearing this right

???????? thats CRAZY damage

25% from barbed bracelet, 50% from flintslate, 50% from garama

[earnest drift]

the garama would only work for the first hit of the needle strike

[light swan]

ohh

[earnest drift]

with that it's 184 dmg iirc

and no one uses challenge so the warding bind is more convenient

[light swan]

ok that changes things a lot 😭

226 is crazy

184 is only 2 more damage

witch still holds the 1st and 2nd positions for highest damaging attack ig

With the sole exception of Rune Rage, of course.

[earnest drift]

well...

what if wanderer's needle strike crits on every hit

and would quicksling + voltvessels bola count as a single attack (180 dmg)

[still osprey]

How does quick sling actually work

I've lowkey never used it

[earnest drift]

casting a red tool throws out two of the tools, the cooldown between them is lower than the cooldown between red tools usually is

depending on the red tool it can be a massive dps increase

[still osprey]

Ohhhhh

[earnest drift]

it's best on voltvessel bolas

[ashen steeple]

I can beat last lace like 50% of the time now

[tender tapir]

Yo does anyone have any tips for steel soul cause I keep dying way too early 😭 I js beat act 3 and wanna try something else out

[still osprey]

Wait that's actually pretty good

[ashen steeple]

Usually getting to phase 2

[tight hull]

hello

[light swan]

idk how i feel about red tools theyre confusing

[still osprey]

Maybe I should give quick sling a shot

[earnest drift]

no it doesn't work with those

[light swan]

technically you can stack sting shards

and then blow them all up for more damage

but at that point i feel like it’s just multiple attacks at the same time

[earnest drift]

but that includes pressing f more than once without altering a previously initiated attack
so that's more than one attack

[light swan]

also how tf is 4 bolas worth 180 damage

[tender tapir]

If you’re struggling to avoid her attacks one tip that helped me was avoid dashing as much as possible (rip contact damage), it’s better to dodge aerial for most attacks

[light swan]

thats ober 40 dmg each

[ashen steeple]

Yeah true

Most of my deaths are from reckfullness

[earnest drift]

45 dmg each * 4
yes bolas are busted and need a nerf

[light swan]

would pollip pouch make that 186

[slim thorn]

warding bell, fractured mask, healing builds, plasmium, more plasmium

[earnest drift]

oh god

[tender tapir]

It took me 5 hours to beat lost lace dw you’ll get it 😭💔

[tender tapir]

noted noted Ty bro, I just hope I can live long enough to collect allat

[earnest drift]

so voltvessels bola + quick sling + pollip pouch is the highest damaging single attack
this is the worst possible outcome

[light swan]

i’m not listening btw all this information is going through one ear and out the other

[earnest drift]

red tools suck

[light swan]

who’s Bola didnt they create a gas law that states that volume is directly proportional to temperature

[ashen steeple]

Oh yeah i can beat lost lace

Im just trying to get better

Its a fun fight

[vernal coral]

still on act one lol

so much to do

[ashen steeple]

Oh oops

[vernal coral]

it's insane

[ashen steeple]

Spoilers are allowed here so be careful

[tender tapir]

What’s ur guys favourite boss in any act

[last flax]

I need to get that sk pantheon mod, refight bosses for fun

[last flax]

generic answer but karmelita

[ashen steeple]

Probably first sinner

[vernal coral]

I know spoileres are allowed I don't care at this pont

[ashen steeple]

Oh ok

[tender tapir]

Generic but not bad, she’s popular for good reason

[ashen steeple]

Hornet dies

[vernal coral]

my youtube keeps showing me shorts on the game

[ashen steeple]

If you lose your masks

[vernal coral]

lol

[last flax]

so funnn, I enjoyed fighting her more and more (I died a lot)

[tender tapir]

I died so many times against her but it’s cool cause her theme is awesome 😭✌️

[vernal coral]

took six years for sk to come out still can't believe that lol

no 5 my bad

[ashen steeple]

I thought it was 7

[trim estuary]

ikr and it was STILL rushed

[tender tapir]

Sameee ngl, wish we had some kinda pantheon just so I could go back and redo the fight

[last flax]

lemme give it a listen, been a while, I do remember it being good tho

[rocky jolt]

you know what else took six years to come out

[earnest drift]

let's add them all together and agree to 18

[ashen steeple]

18 feels right

[vernal coral]

it was announced in in 2019 I thought?

[vernal coral]

what?

[tender tapir]

Totally worth the wait though I enjoyed every second of sk

[trim estuary]

was in development since Godmaster at least

[tender tapir]

Except pre nerf primal beast fly that I didn’t love

[vernal coral]

so I am right

[exotic dome]

it was in development before grimm dlc came out

[vernal coral]

I still remember the first trailor for it me and my big brother freaked out about it and talked about it for months, lol

[exotic dome]

8 years

[slim thorn]

have yall died to this once?

[ashen steeple]

I spent 1/3rd of my life waiting for silksong

[earnest drift]

yes

[exotic dome]

i don't remember encountering this attack

[tight viper]

I've died like that once or twice

Poorly timed clawlines on my part

[rocky jolt]

last judge is tuff

[tight viper]

Shame they took her funniest attack and just nerfed the hell out of it

[slim thorn]

its phase change

[tight viper]

3 damage explosion that just kills you for being unobservant is funny as fuck

And they removed it? That's lame

[graceful oyster]

Newgens

Raise the Discord age limit

[exotic cedar]

I didn't wait for silksong

Silksong waited for me.

[ashen steeple]

I mean a lot of bosses have some sort of animation as they die

But its still funny

[odd hull]

I spent like, 2 months waiting for it.

[graceful oyster]

I spent a 10th of my life inactively aware of Silksong

[ashen steeple]

You were born july 2025?

[rocky jolt]

silksong took 7 years to come out they could very well be 20 years old

[distant prawn]

Hi gng

[ashen steeple]

Yeah

[distant prawn]

they were born in the future???

[odd hull]

Huh???

[distant prawn]

I need their time machine

[ashen steeple]

Typo
Crucify this man

[odd hull]

lmao

[ashen steeple]

Smh

[rocky jolt]

cut through and enter pharloom mog the entire rest of the ost

[graceful oyster]

Did I stutter

[rocky jolt]

yes

[ashen steeple]

I also love last lace ost

[rocky jolt]

that too

[ashen steeple]

I love how grand and heroic it sounds

[tender tapir]

Widow has gotta be one of my top tracks for sure

Choral chambers is pretty good too

[exotic cedar]

Bilewater.

[exotic dome]

there is no bad ost in this game

[tender tapir]

bilewater ost was the only think keeping me sane during that section

[dawn leaf]

awakening

[still osprey]

I love every song in this game idk if I really have a favorite

[tender tapir]

ofc not, team cherry always delivers

[still osprey]

God I love silksong what a great game

[ashen steeple]

I love when boss songs kinda “contradict” their fight but not really
Like you’re in the depths of the abyss and you get this heroic grand score

[pastel plank]

gays, did you know that the idea of SIlksong existed before most of the dlcs?

guys*

[tender tapir]

I spent over 100 hours on my first save just because it’s such a beautifully crafted game that I couldn’t help but take my time 😭

[ashen steeple]

Reminds me a bit of chrisanta from blasphemous, fast paced fight with slow music

[pastel plank]

imo Greymoor is the most underrated OST in both of the games

[modest stirrup]

I spent over 100 hours on my 1st save bc bosses took me 2-6 hours

[rocky jolt]

they should build a citadel here

[tender tapir]

yeah.. that too lmao.. 😔
I wish I was skilled enough to pull off those crazy hitless runs some folks can do

[still osprey]

Someone else that actually likes silksong in the silksong discussion channel 🥹 I used to pray for times like this

[exotic cedar]

YOU can be skilled, just practice and trust yourself

[slim thorn]

was using a nail art im not familiar in combat with against a moving offscreen last judge i must hitless too daredevilish?

[tender tapir]

I would have assumed everyone here does no?

[still osprey]

You'd be surprised 😭

[exotic cedar]

I like silksong

Though i think it still has flaws, but great game overall

[tender tapir]

I play on console co I can’t even use mods or nothing, but I wishhh we had something like pantheon so I could boss rush

[modest stirrup]

How do you see the damage dealt?

[exotic cedar]

Mods

[amber tartan]

What months do you guys think the Silksong bosses should be it’s for a TikTok 🥹❤️‍🩹

[restive ibex]

To truly hate a game, you have to love it first.

[tender tapir]

Honestly tho most games have flaws, I judge games based on how much fun I had playing it and I def had fun with silksong

[slim thorn]

that one is silken impact
there is also showbosshealthbar mod
altough this silken impact one seems to not understand master mode mod sets my nail damage to 1, so it gets innacurate, but i like that

[exotic cedar]

I still like games even though i absolutely suffer in them

[tender tapir]

Can u make November first sinner cause that’s my birthday month and it’d be cool

[modest stirrup]

Whats master mode

[amber tartan]

Yes goat

[tender tapir]

Ty chief ur awesome

[slim thorn]

basically 2 masks and 1 needle damage

[amber tartan]

Np!!!

[modest stirrup]

Wth

[graceful oyster]

Meeo

[slim thorn]

its pretty neat

[graceful oyster]

I agree

[slim thorn]

good for a replaythrough

[light swan]

mio…

[odd hull]

Truest truth

[graceful oyster]

Thank you.
You brought us to the e-

You know what actually I'm not gonna start that one

[scarlet karma]

peak….

[graceful oyster]

True...

I hope one day they finish the jukebox

It would be cool to actually do them as intended

[hardy tangle]

minecraft jukebox

[exotic cedar]

stardew valley jukebox

[mental snow]

Oh yeah I did this a couple days ago lol

[rocky jolt]

this game is full of bugs

[vagrant steeple]

true. i fact checked it. its a wonder how the devs even thought its fine to release it. it needs more patches

too many bugs

im scared

[graceful oyster]

I do not look like a minecraft dirtblock!!!

(He looks like a minecraft dirtblock)

[vast bolt]

I want to watch Cunk on Pharloom.

[slim thorn]

what

could that be related to the inwards walljump thingie i never understood why it happened?

[mental snow]

Hornet gets a bit silly

[hallow zodiac]

guys I’m going to get my result for finals…I’m crine ,someone pls pray for me cause I’m scared

[earnest drift]

people bully me for liking silksong

[lavish apex]

you are making up guys

[earnest drift]

no people bully you because you're annoying and you constantly ragebait and hate on hollow knight unnecessarily

[lavish apex]

self aware

[mental snow]

Also I get that there's no ground through this path, it's just a straight drop, but this is still stupid

I would say "through this transition", but... it's not a transition

At least not an upwards one

[brittle totem]

which of the silk guns are best?

[mental snow]

True Silkshot. Easily.

Most satisfying.
It's literally a railgun.

[exotic dome]

forgot to fight last judge before doing couriers rasher in my steel soul save

[green owl]

where is that again?

[lavish apex]

just nohit them

[mental snow]

It's also funny killing enemies with it, because it's deadass just shooting a bitch dead in Pharloom

[vivid belfry]

forge shot is better for single target

[earnest drift]

architect shot is better for nothing

[lavish apex]

like 15 other tools are better for single target

[exotic dome]

forge shot is the best one i think

[graceful oyster]

Archishot is there for emotional support after it dies

[lavish apex]

true silkshot has a niche kinda at least

[mental snow]

True Silkshot is the best one. It is deadass just a fuckin railgun

[graceful oyster]

Let's be real, no one's unironically using any of them

[green owl]

??? what i was asking what area is that in?

[vivid belfry]

true silkshot is a worse version of silk spear, which you may be interested in if you're running architect

[lavish apex]

illusion is :)

[graceful oyster]

Illusion uses everything

[mental snow]

My bad man, I thought you were asking about Silkshot lmao

It's in the Underworks

[graceful oyster]

He doesn't count

[vivid belfry]

but forge shot is a better version of straight pins, which are already one of the best tools in the game for a ton of boss fights

[graceful oyster]

It costs silk

[earnest drift]

never thought i'd see someone say straight pins are one of the best tools

[green owl]

but now im heading to mount fay so thanks

[lavish apex]

considering that it costs silk i'd disagree

[mental snow]

Sorry lol

[earnest drift]

personally i love straight pins but they are very outclassed

[mental snow]

Straight Pins are honestly overrated

[vivid belfry]

people abandon them because they're simple, but they're just incredibly consistent and have high total damage

[green owl]

perfectly fine i might need that so perfect

[earnest drift]

nah no one uses them

they're rated fine

[rotund canyon]

I used em and they are not bad

[earnest drift]

the total dmg is 408 wdym

[lavish apex]

i prefer threefold but they're fine

[mental snow]

Chat, which one is better

Flintslate or Every other Red tool combined

[earnest drift]

threefold is balanced in comparison to straight pin

[still osprey]

I honestly like silkshot it lets me use my beloved silk spear while also keeping my more beloved cross stitch equipped

[rotund canyon]

Every other red tool tbh

[earnest drift]

curvesickle solos

[lavish apex]

every other combined for sure lol

[mental snow]

WRONG

Mike, burn him

[rotund canyon]

cuz theres flea bathwater

[earnest drift]

voltvessels solo

and i hate both of them

[rotund canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

[mental snow]

Oh I hit a funny clip with Voltvessels a couple days back

One moment

[lavish apex]

flintslate is cool but it costs like 12 shards so fuck that

[earnest drift]

do you think straight pin should be the standard for how red tools are balanced

[still osprey]

I think straight pin is fine, good ranged option with decent damage and good capacity while not being too costly

[earnest drift]

cogflies have nearly the same dmg capacity except it's passive and free

[still osprey]

Well yea but they're Cogflies

[rotund canyon]

500 cogflies.

[still osprey]

We shouldn't be taking them into account when it comes to balance

[earnest drift]

curvesickles deal the same dmg as straight pin except they multihit

[rotund canyon]

Curve sickle broken

[still osprey]

Does it really 😭 no fucking way

[earnest drift]

why are they even in the game teamcherry what were you thinking

[still osprey]

I know curvesickle is good but is it really that good

[rotund canyon]

WHY DID YOU EVEN ADD ANOTHER UPGRADE FOR THIS TOOL

[brittle totem]

so the one in the mountain

[earnest drift]

at 17 dmg, if each curvesickle hits 4 times, that totals 1088 dmg

[vivid belfry]

depends on the enemy

[brittle totem]

or the one forge daughter gives me

which one

[still osprey]

omg it does

[vivid belfry]

if it's big or likes floating at a 30 degree angle to you, curvesickle is the best tool in the game by a longshot

[mental snow]

Ye

[green owl]

im at the area what do i do again?

[knotty vapor]

how ironic that the silkshot architect makes is the shittiest one

[brittle totem]

ballright

[earnest drift]

curvesickle is the second most broken tool, right behind voltvessel bolas

[minor sparrow]

goal the geat

[earnest drift]

it is ass against lost lace though

[brittle totem]

curvclaw my beloved

[minor sparrow]

i mean yeah

[mental snow]

Go up to the big bird at the top, drop down the right and hug the wall to the left. You'll land, and there should be a room (or a breakable wall idfk) you can go through. There'll be a prompt.

...make sure you have a Craftmetal btw

[rotund canyon]

yeah cuz lost lace is smol

[still osprey]

Curvesickle only costs 5 shards to repair 😭 what are we doing

[rotund canyon]

compared to other bosses

[earnest drift]

shard cost is a bad way to balance things anyway

[mental snow]

We don't care about shard costs

[minor sparrow]

she's also faster than most bosses so

[rotund canyon]

and also sinks to the ground sometimes

[minor sparrow]

make tools all one shard trust

[earnest drift]

the way team cherry had an already strong tool and added a way to upgrade it to make it even stronger just screams something at me
like they'e planning something for red tools, because no way they add an overpowered upgrade for one red tool and one red tool only

[still osprey]

It's almost like Lost Lace is a well designed boss that requires actual skill to beat

[earnest drift]

unfortunately voltvessel bolas can still cheese her

[minor sparrow]

55 volt vessels

[earnest drift]

toss them into a corner and bait her into going there

[slim thorn]

cheese?

[minor sparrow]

and 20 cross stitches

[still osprey]

Well that's because voltvessels are broken

[rotund canyon]

500 volt vessels

[minor sparrow]

sure but it does contradict the statement just a bit

[earnest drift]

does conchcutter need a nerf? it's often listed as broken right next to voltvessels and curvesickle

[slim thorn]

that seems a bit of needing a small amount of skill atleast

[brittle totem]

i wanna hug the big bird

[still osprey]

Conchcutter has been nerfed enough imo

[earnest drift]

definitely more skill than it does against some other bosses but still worrying

[rotund canyon]

I mean you can just yeet it in any direction and it will probably will still hit the target

[earnest drift]

conchcutter only has a max dmg of 672 hm

yeah it seems fine

[still osprey]

I think it's fine

[earnest drift]

do tacks need a nerf

560 dmg isn't massive

but it is effortless

[slim thorn]

why worrying? its a very niche way of defeating her

[earnest drift]

i just don't like tool spam

but come to think of it few people are going to figure out that strategy

[minor sparrow]

i knew straight and three fold pin had similar damage against a single target, but 1 damage over straight for all 3 is funny to me

[earnest drift]

isn't it 9 more dmg than straight pin if all three hit one target

[slim thorn]

nerfing multihits like that is annoyin

[minor sparrow]

no

[sharp agate]

We cant post pics no more? 🥺

[earnest drift]

priorities for fixing red tools
nerf voltvessel bolas, nerf cogflies, buff rosary cannon, architect silkshot and longpin, remove curvesickle from the game

[minor sparrow]

oh wait yes, mb

my dumbass was looking at the capacity for straight

im tired bro

[earnest drift]

if we don't remove curvesickle then the other option is to buff every other red tool to be voltvessel bola and curvesickle level and also give hornet another needle upgrade

[still osprey]

Theoretically cogflies aren't even that insane they can deal like 400 damage max but it's the fact they are just completely effortless that makes them busted. You press the button and they do all the rest

[inland sparrow]

Then go to sleep

[minor sparrow]

ill think about it

[earnest drift]

yeah so i think they should be nerfed so they don't have nearly the same capacity as straight pin

[minor sparrow]

it's not like i got bad sleep, i just

idk

[inland sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1418632125263118468/1464750868003029032/attachment.gif

[still osprey]

Their max capacity is 8 and they cost 10 shell shards to repair each

[minor sparrow]

im gonna throw u[

[earnest drift]

if hornet had to stay still for 1.5 seconds to wind up each cogfly then people would use them much less

[minor sparrow]

straight pin holds 24

[still osprey]

Straight Pin's capacity is 24

[inland sparrow]

Well that’s not very nice😟

[rocky jolt]

sands of carrot

[minor sparrow]

not you, the meem

[inland sparrow]

Ohhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-cat-banana-hungry-void-cat-gif-16626119171143575104

[exotic dome]

sands of crack

[minor sparrow]

the black part bears resemblance to a lashing out void tendril

therefor

[ashen steeple]

Hornet is void

[minor sparrow]

i haven't actually looked at her throwing animations too much

[earnest drift]

I mean max dmg capacity

[rotund canyon]

It is possible :]

[rocky jolt]

hornet is plasmium

[minor sparrow]

ah. in that case yeah

[wild owl]

why do people complain so much about groal? literaly too easy

or maybe its becuase i was using architect which invalidates almost all bosses....

[graceful oyster]

This was why

[still osprey]

Nah Groal is just easy

[wild owl]

ah i see now

[graceful cairn]

yup

[rotund canyon]

Architect carries so hard

[earnest drift]

what tools were you using

[wild owl]

boomerang, cogfly, and grenade

[earnest drift]

quite powerful

[graceful cairn]

cogflies are overhyped

[wild owl]

• polip pouch

[minor sparrow]

random bullshit go is pretty strong against most bosses

[minor sparrow]

passive damage is passive damage

[earnest drift]

this did not help you

[graceful cairn]

so true

[minor sparrow]

especially when you have 2 other tools to throw out at will

[still osprey]

The world if Pollip Pouch was a good fucking tool

[raw pawn]

btw if you somehow got the dark mirror before the red mirror the game still thinks you got the red one

[wild owl]

the only reason people like them is becuase they do passive damage constantly allowing you to attack, unlike other red tools where u have to stop attacking for a moment

[graceful cairn]

i guess bro

idk i dont use red tools they arent fun to me

[earnest drift]

yes exactly

[minor sparrow]

arch would bring bosses to hell

[wild owl]

btw saw tooth circlet is extremely good against bosses that are tall

[still osprey]

I like using red tools but very sparingly, I don't like spamming them

[minor sparrow]

i mean they aren't liked because they're fun

[earnest drift]

if every red tool was buffed to curvesickle level, cogflies would not change

[wild owl]

like karmalita, and khann

[void moat]

khann mention

[exotic dome]

i tried that but purple trobbio does not appear if you leave the red mirror on the ground 😔

[still osprey]

Circlet is just busted in general

[graceful cairn]

well unlike some people i play games to have fun

[minor sparrow]

"btw saw tooth circlet is extremely good" that's all you need

[still osprey]

28 damage for pressing the jump button what are we doing

[minor sparrow]

uh sure? but im just saying that it's not overhyped

[earnest drift]

will the average player know how to abuse it

[minor sparrow]

in terms of fun? sure. in terms of practicality? not really

[wild owl]

yup....

[earnest drift]

i thought sawtooth circlet was useless for my entire first playthrough

[rotund canyon]

same

[minor sparrow]

especially if you don't like to or aren't comfortable with weaving tools into your combat

[swift terrace]

sawtooth circlet will spread into every normies playthrough...

little by little

[graceful cairn]

me too bro

[wild owl]

oh but circlet completely destroys khann becuase he doesnt move around much and is very tall allowing you to do a lot of damage quickly

[exotic dome]

circlet was widely considered ass in the first week 😭

[wild owl]

honestly khann was too easy team cherry needs to buff him

[earnest drift]

in the first week it only dealt 14 dmg

[swift terrace]

to be fair they buffed it so its only good after the buff

[wild owl]

canonicaly hes the equivalant of gengis khan

[still osprey]

tbf circlet also lost damage when you got crafting kit updates until the patch that made blue tools scale

[wild owl]

he should be stronger

[graceful cairn]

only time ive enjoyed using tools is killing unraveled with tacks cause fuck him

[earnest drift]

no i think sawtooth would still be good at 14 dmg

[rotund canyon]

Unraveled Is so shit for me in my first playthrough

[exotic dome]

still free dmg

[wild owl]

unravelled has a huge ass hitbox man

it trips me up every time

[minor sparrow]

yeah tbf, pollip pouch was praised back then too

[rotund canyon]

THE FUCKING MOVE WHERE HE THROWS BODIES AT YOU

I dont know how to dodge that

[minor sparrow]

and we know how that panned out

[still osprey]

Go above them

It's really not hard

[graceful cairn]

dont you love unpredictability?

[wild owl]

wait a second

[brittle totem]

circlit was amazing for increasing the duration in which I could make those lazy weak insignificant useless ugly smelly unclean underworkers suffer for being the most annoying and unloved enemies in the game

[wild owl]

can u cheese some bosses with whispfire lantern if youre patient enough?

[rotund canyon]

yeah...?

[wild owl]

bug racism 💔 🥀

[still osprey]

Wispfire Lantern sucks ass tho it's not worth it

[rotund canyon]

but that will take a long time

[minor sparrow]

I like using three-fold quite a bit for when enemies try to back away. makes me feel cool

[wild owl]

ah ok ty

[minor sparrow]

the sister splinter video...

[wild owl]

true true

[graceful cairn]

you can actually cheese every boss with the needle by just hitting it a ton

[wild owl]

?

[wild owl]

nerd

[raw pawn]

oh thanks watcher

[still osprey]

Blue tools are generally a lot more balanced than hk charms but there's still some outliers

[ancient mortar]

Namely sawtooth, injector, and volt filament

[minor sparrow]

idk where it's at but there's a video where the player just stands in between the vines of the sister splinter and lets wispfire do all the damage

[graceful cairn]

what am i looking at bro

[wild owl]

ohhhhh

[near breach]

I might replay silksong since I want to fight the bosses again

[copper hedge]

lets have a watch 👀

[brittle totem]

it's valid because of those underdeveloped 12 iq brainless "bugs" deserve the hate, in fact they're maybe 10% bug and 90% useless annoying worthless peices of underwork garbage who deserve their fate under the glorious citadel

[rotund canyon]

theres mods if you want

[minor sparrow]

since you aren't within her attack range you can just afk at the vines

[earnest drift]

volt filament doesn't seem as broken as shaman stone, because spells cost more

[near breach]

I play on console

[still osprey]

I'd personally also maybe include snitch pick but maybe I'm biased cuz I looove clawline

[rotund canyon]

ah

[near breach]

Soooo

[spark relic]

💀

[rotund canyon]

Yeah rip

[graceful cairn]

why is he telling the truth?

[near breach]

Why are you 💀ing me

[earnest drift]

but sawtooth circlet is the equivalent of a 3 or 4 notch charm as a blue tool

[ancient mortar]

Volt filament isnt as busted as shaman but its still way stronger than most other blues. making it an outlier

[rotund canyon]

Yeah volt filament is pretty awesome

[brittle totem]

I actually feel so sorry for you

[spark relic]

Cuz you aren't able to use mods 😭

[raw pawn]

holy fuck

[ancient mortar]

pick is really good, but i don't know if id say its too strong. It requires a specific playstyle and its not the most massive boost like volt or sawtooth which both massively boost dps

[earnest drift]

would it be good if they halved circlet's dmg again

[still osprey]

mhm yea that's completely fair

[ancient mortar]

sawtooth would still be good if it did a quarter of its damage tbh

[rotund canyon]

probably

[minor sparrow]

probably, it's never not doing anything

[rotund canyon]

cuz extra damage is still extra damage

[brittle totem]

imagine void filament + pollip pouch on beast crest 😈

[near breach]

And also my laptop wouldn't be able to handle an 8 gb game

[spark relic]

Hope skong is in this next steam sale

[copper hedge]

whiteward time (oh god what will show up there)

[ancient mortar]

why would you use pollip pouch

[minor sparrow]

the reaper plus sawtooth pogo is pretty funny to me

[still osprey]

Why pollip pouch it does nothing

[ancient mortar]

its terrible

[minor sparrow]

i like when the hornet go up

[earnest drift]

guys the joke is you can't have 2 blues on beast

[rotund canyon]

I always thought pollip pouch is a gud dps boost for tools (like cogflies)

[spark relic]

Reaper crest mentioned 🥹

[ancient mortar]

you can if you believe in yourself

[earnest drift]

unless void filament is a different colour

[minor sparrow]

or have mods

[still osprey]

Yea but it's the equivalent of saying "imagine volt filament" on beast crest like yea ok I'm imagining it what's crazy about it

[spark relic]

True

[minor sparrow]

black

[rose sandal]

Every time I see someone saying that the black thing inside her cocoon means that Hornet is void I just die inside.

[near breach]

My favourite bosses
1: cogwork dancers
2: savage beastfly part 2
3: savage beastfly part 1

[minor sparrow]

that is the joke though, it doesn't do much

[rotund canyon]

No...

[graceful cairn]

lmao

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-theyre-groovin-rain-deer-rain-world-meme-the-funny-gif-23153265

[rose sandal]

well… excuse me?

[near breach]

Yes...

[rocky jolt]

hollow knight fans seeing any black particle

[rotund canyon]

Please not the savage beastflies

[rotund canyon]

or orange... they go crazy when they see orange

[spark relic]

Gonna need several reasons why

[brittle totem]

it was a multi-layered joke where pollip is useless, no one actually uses voit filament on beast cuz it's a needle focused crest, and you can't have 2 blues on beast

[rose sandal]

LIKE SHE ISNT VOID (also nice shuanshuan pfp)

[graceful cairn]

hornet void fans when they realize she can speak

[rose sandal]

🥀

[rose sandal]

YEAH! lowk I think it’s js her without a mask and dress.

[graceful cairn]

I LOVE COG DANCERS

[near breach]

Cause cogwork dancers just has such good motion and patterns it makes it fun

[minor sparrow]

tbf, idk wtf the collector was doing

[near breach]

And the music

[rotund canyon]

I think he meant the other two...

[spark relic]

You know good and well I'm not talking about the cogwork dancers...

[minor sparrow]

bro just decided he could i guess

[rotund canyon]

We have bigger fish to fry

[rose sandal]

I have some ideas…

[near breach]

We have bigger savage beasts to fly

[rose sandal]

how to give void form: a tutorial

[brittle totem]

im gunna hold your hand when i say this... maybe he was, idk, collecting

[rose sandal]

SHOOT I FORGOT ABT THAT

[near breach]

Idk how to explain it but savage beastfly is just a good boss

[rose sandal]

Hm… let me think

[earnest drift]

does collector speak or is it just unintelligible laughter

[rose sandal]

Yeah so hornet is not void

[rose sandal]

Just uauauauauuauaauuauauaua

[rotund canyon]

You must be a masochist...

[minor sparrow]

yeah that's exactly what I meant

[rose sandal]

SO SHE IS? WHAT?

[rocky jolt]

radiance is void

[near breach]

Idk what that means but I probably am then

[earnest drift]

she is now

[rotund canyon]

beat me to it

[spark relic]

Maybe now yeah

[graceful cairn]

beastfly pogo is harder than savage beastfly imo

[rotund canyon]

FUCK

[rose sandal]

Just unintellectual laughter, and his dream nail dialogue comes from him being imprinted on by the husk in the Queen’s Gardens he was close to

[exotic dome]

one steel soul achievement is down

[earnest drift]

what husk

[rotund canyon]

Are you using...

[near breach]

Water is lava ahh

[spark relic]

Steel soul with barbed bracelet, I could never

[rose sandal]

The one u get Love Key from

[rotund canyon]

barbed bracelet is crazy

[graceful cairn]

the one that has the love key

[brittle totem]

im ngl grand mommy silk should deal triple dmg

[rotund canyon]

I died to the bell beast 30 mins in my steel soul run and just gave up lmao

Ill probably try again

[spark relic]

She has an attack that does 3 damage

[exotic dome]

that one should do 5 damage

[rose sandal]

she was likely a collector, collected a kings mould, stripped it, and made friends with it.

[rotund canyon]

Envy younggblood's brother

[near breach]

Savage beastfly fight 3 when

[rose sandal]

guys plasmium is void

[rocky jolt]

couriers rasher but i have to do path of pain at the start and mergwin is in the nameless town

[earnest drift]

oh

[spark relic]

Bro how much health are you bringing to gms, I struggle getting to her with more than 6

[void moat]

the black orbs that fall out of hornet's cocoon are probably just her past regret

[earnest drift]

so does this explain why the knight can’t pacify the collector with void heart

[exotic dome]

it gets pretty easy once you get the cursed crest achievement

[near breach]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-savage-beastfly-pain-gif-2966848518310440724

[rose sandal]

Well yeah just like he can’t pacify kingsmoulds

[spark relic]

Yeah, I am NOT torturing myself by doing that

[rose sandal]

assuming all that isn’t affected by the white palace being in a dream

[rotund canyon]

Infected Void Enraged Plasmified Attuned Ascended Radiant 1st 2nd 4th Choir Mucked Skarr Savage beastfly 3 when?

[earnest drift]

because they’re what
given a mind?

[near breach]

Wrong gif

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-beastfly-hollow-knight-gif-7408369009657734077

[green owl]

can yall give me advice like what tools i should use and get for the second lace battle pls im strugglng

[earnest drift]

wait do kingsmoulds have dreamnail dialogue

[near breach]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

[rotund canyon]

I think

[spark relic]

takes two damage

gets pushed into lava

takes another two damage

[exotic dome]

oh i forgot about that gauntlet at the start of act 3

[rose sandal]

A mask, at the very least. Masks are required to define, focus, and exist, so maybe without its mask (the collector), the void naturally looked to the closest source of definition.

[near breach]

Heals

[earnest drift]

ok so void beings with dream nail dialogue are not subject to being controlled by void heart

[rotund canyon]

Happened to me when I fought gron and signis

[green owl]

can yall give me advice like what tools i should use and get for the second lace battle pls im strugglng

[spark relic]

gets interrupted while healing and dies

[rotund canyon]

Uhm

[near breach]

tries the fight again and wins

[earnest drift]

well that’s one big plot hole in hk deat with

[rose sandal]

No I don’t think so. But it rlly depends.

[spark relic]

After another 85 attempts

[earnest drift]

unless you count pure vessel not listening to void heart but that’s a dream so I think it’s different

[warm kindle]

Car

[rotund canyon]

Maybe cogflies or tacks or smth
but I recommend trying to know her patterns

[void moat]

epic rap battles of history... BELL HERMIT..!! VERSUS... ROOOBERT OPPENHEIMER..!!!! BEGIN!

[graceful cairn]

lmao what is this

[near breach]

Bosses are easy you just have to not get hit

[earnest drift]

although void heart says unifies the void under the beater’s will, nothing about the void have a mind of its own

[rotund canyon]

Metri is a masochist

[silver drum]

is anybody else's audio sounding really weird or like, underwater-like? Specifically menu sounds?

[earnest drift]

ok is collector and kingsmoulds not being pacified by void heart a plot hole or not

[near breach]

I'm gonna google what that means

[void moat]

probably

[near breach]

WHAT

[blazing ocean]

Bro look at ts i found in poppy playtime 3 my own recording

[graceful cairn]

mayybe

[earnest drift]

I’m going to die the next time ploppy paytime is brought up

[near breach]

I don't feel freaky when I get hurt

[blazing ocean]

Bro LOOOOK

[rotund canyon]

Not physically for this one...

[blazing ocean]

How tf is this even possible

[rose sandal]

lace died guys

[rotund canyon]

Big ass battery

[rose sandal]

lace got lost

[blazing ocean]

Bro this shit has the power of 2 batteies

I put it in the thing and it took 2 places

[rotund canyon]

"YOU LOST LACE??? THEN FIND HER!!!"

-Hornet

[minor sparrow]

have you considered that the lost got lace?

[still osprey]

What do you mean you Lost Lace? Go find her!

[blazing ocean]

Nah gms

[earnest drift]

nosk lace

[graceful cairn]

slop game

[blazing ocean]

Damn the game cannot be that bad

[rose sandal]

Once upon a time I found a sign that said lost lake and I thought it said lost lace and I was so confused

[rose sandal]

Oh it is that bad!

[spark relic]

Yes it can

[rotund canyon]

Poppy Playtime isn't that bad, just a shit ton of puzzles

[graceful cairn]

its just mascot horror slop

[blazing ocean]

The series is interesting tho

[graceful cairn]

the gameplay seems pretty boring too

[spark relic]

Is it though?

[near breach]

#off-topic

[blazing ocean]

Yes

[void moat]

poppy playtime genuinely peaked at chapter 3 and fell off from there

[twin summit]

Bum game imo

[exotic dome]

why the fuck is this so difficult

[earnest drift]

ploppy paytime
ploppy because it’s poo
paytime because mob entertainment is extremely money hungry

[rotund canyon]

holy shit

[spark relic]

The precise guy started it

[rose sandal]

LITERSLLY I died on this so much

[near breach]

Groal is a good boss fight (ready watch people think I get pleasure out of pain)

[rotund canyon]

YOU DID IT WITHOUT LEAVING AND LOADING??

[twin summit]

This makes me scared

[spark relic]

God this room was annoying at the start of act 3 with a crest i dont like using

[graceful cairn]

DUDE

[twin summit]

Like a champ they were 🔥

[rotund canyon]

MAN YOU'RE CRAZY

[rose sandal]

as a proud hunter crest main I can say that I thrived here

[graceful cairn]

its mid

[earnest drift]

i wish act 3 didn’t let you quit the game to get full health

[rose sandal]

And in red memory

[near breach]

Lowb jumpscare

[steady walrus]

she is NOT doing allat

[twin summit]

Couldn't hear you, could you repeat that

[rotund canyon]

"Yeah no, I dont have any life in me"

[spark relic]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-idk-this-person-questioning-random-person-this-who-gif-5295285761881556675

[rotund canyon]

TF

[graceful cairn]

🥶

[rose sandal]

icon

[earnest drift]

lace beat the knight in a fight

[twin summit]

I hate that dude in the middle

[near breach]

What

[twin summit]

He ruins every meme

[steady walrus]

WHAT

[rotund canyon]

we got bigger asses to fry bruh

[earnest drift]

what’s the reaction for

[twin summit]

🔥🥶

[rotund canyon]

nuthing

[spark relic]

(Lace 1 is my third favorite fight in the game)

[graceful cairn]

the second fight is like objectively better but okay

[earnest drift]

lost lace is the best fight in the series

[rose sandal]

Ohhh I’m sorry I respected ur shuanshuan pfp the Mio tag is a no (proud mio hater here!

[spark relic]

That's why that fight is my actual favorite fight in the game

[twin summit]

Groal solos

[earnest drift]

why do you hate mio

[rotund canyon]

.

Epic sauce

[rose sandal]

Bc I don’t like it it’s s bad game

[graceful cairn]

youre an opp bro

[near breach]

Savage beastfly better

[graceful cairn]

wow!

[earnest drift]

but what’s wrong with it I want to know

[rose sandal]

a few things

[graceful cairn]

literally peak game

[earnest drift]

is it because the protagonist is silent for the 50th time

[rose sandal]

Ig it feels a lot like Ori, but a lot worse executed

[twin summit]

Doom reference!???!

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/a-person-that-hates-ben-jammin-ben-jammins-ben-jamminstv-benjamin-gif-11540257628448371365

[earnest drift]

is it because of the mandatory health decreases

[rose sandal]

No I’m fine with that. I don’t like the art style and the health decreases and the weird unresponsive controls and the lore dumpy world

[graceful cairn]

sounds like you havent played the game

[twin summit]

I just won a waterpolo game for my region

[earnest drift]

is it because the area design uses blue way too much

[exotic dome]

glaze mio

[rose sandal]

I have and want my 30 hours back

[raw pawn]

the knight is being judged

[graceful cairn]

hater smh

[graceful oyster]

TRUE

[rose sandal]

No I js don’t like the art style that much in general

[earnest drift]

what’s wrong with the lore

[graceful cairn]

the art style bro are we fr

[rose sandal]

It’s alright it js feels a bit too lore dumpy

[graceful cairn]

fym unresponsive 💔

[earnest drift]

moreso than hk and silksong?

[graceful oyster]

This is identical to "I don't understand game design and I let my preferences in games dictate my honest analysis on whether or not a game is good for its genre"

[rose sandal]

I don’t like games like mio or prince of Persia where it’s mainly 3d assets but ur movement is locked to 2d

[rose sandal]

Yeah, it feels less natural

[graceful oyster]

Look just say you don't like it

Don't say it's a bad game

[earnest drift]

he is

[rose sandal]

ok so… no. Look it’s alright I just don’t like it and it doesn’t fit the bill of a good game for me

[graceful oyster]

It makes you look silly

[graceful cairn]

im not a huge fan of that either but mio does it so well so i love it

[rose sandal]

of fine it’s a bad game to me.

[earnest drift]

also who names a game after the protagonist that’s lame

[graceful oyster]

It also hurts the devs for no good reason if other people avoid it because you simply tried a game that clearly wasn't for you

[rose sandal]

I guess… I mean to me it just feels super restrictive and annoying to the point where they could have just made a 3d game

[graceful oyster]

And you're vocal and dishonest about it

[exotic dome]

vesselous vessel..

[graceful cairn]

no bro...

[rose sandal]

Well I would recommend ppl avoid it as I AM on a hollow knight discord server that IS probably gonna be with ppl that like hollow knight and I like hollow knight so we might have similar interests so they might not like it too!

[graceful oyster]

That's an ass take

[rose sandal]

maybe the devs should have locked in and made a better game

[graceful oyster]

Holy yikes

[raw pawn]

why did he drop the theif's mark lmao

[rose sandal]

No that’s fine

[rose sandal]

Honestly it’s a nice game with a bit of a broken core

[graceful oyster]

#sk-discussion message
Please refer back to this message and try to see where you're slipping up

[graceful cairn]

i think the dialogue is translated from french so that might be part of it but i didnt really find this to be the case

[earnest drift]

does mio feel worse to control than the knight
do they feel floaty and unresponsive to input

[rose sandal]

‘Slipping up’ tf u mean

[graceful cairn]

a... what

[rose sandal]

Lowk I don’t like the knight anymore. Like Silksong ruined it for me hahah

[graceful oyster]

Your logic is very flawed and almost hostile for no good reason

[earnest drift]

facts

but which is worse to control the knight or mio

[rose sandal]

idk why I’m getting attacked for my opinion here

[graceful cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288959602897195120/1459735901532852361/togif.gif

[rose sandal]

Mio for me only bc of the animations being less clean and readable than the knights

Ari Gibson my goat

[graceful oyster]

Because slandering a small indie game based off of reasonings that are very obviously just personal preference issues is not good etiquette

[earnest drift]

dang I thought 3d animation was smoother

[brave geyser]

Ok but hear me out

[rose sandal]

Smoother does not equal cleaner/more readable.

[brave geyser]

silksong steel soul no upgrades

[graceful cairn]

"worse to control" and you start talking about animations

[earnest drift]

this may convince me to never buy mio

[rose sandal]

Hollow knight has clearer shape language and things

[lavish apex]

hk1 movement still feels very good to me

[exotic cedar]

Hi guys what's happening

[brave geyser]

Same

[graceful cairn]

mio is peak dont let the propaganda get to you

[rose sandal]

animations actually play a lot into game feel. Take a look at this video https://youtu.be/YD20Wt8t0NY?si=Ev1CTymYzficruHD

[lavish apex]

honestly i would say i like it more than mio gamefeel wise even though mio's abilities are way cooler

[rose sandal]

yeah mio is all spectacle it doesn’t put gameplay first

[graceful cairn]

me when i lie

[rose sandal]

well I’m not lying

[lavish apex]

silksong just straight up has the best movement and control in any game i've ever played though

[graceful oyster]

This is a good reminder that anyone can spread misinformation on the internet

[earnest drift]

also I think saying someone is “hurting the devs” by expressing thoughts on a game is a bit silly

[rose sandal]

literally

[rose sandal]

YES THSNK YOU

[rose sandal]

now THIS is true

[rose sandal]

misinformation? wdym so none of my points are correct?

[graceful cairn]

pretty much /hj

[rose sandal]

name one that’s wrong and why

[lavish apex]

that's not a slight to mio or hk1 it just does it that well, any 2d game could feel like shit in comparison

[graceful oyster]

Word of mouth is the number one way games get positively advertised. But it goes both ways. Someone can say a game is bad and that you should avoid it and there will be many people who listen. It does hurt the devs if many people do this.

[exotic dome]

wow sharpdart makes bell eater fight actually fun

[graceful cairn]

impossible

[raw pawn]

gng this is worse than a frayed rosary necklace

[rose sandal]

Well I’m not gonna leave a positive review for a game I didn’t like I will leave a negative review for one I didn’t

[graceful cairn]

"yeah mio is all spectacle it doesn’t put gameplay first"

[exotic dome]

worse than rancid egg 🙏

[rose sandal]

Well yeah I mean half of the game is js u being locked into cutscenes

well maybe not THAT extreme

[lavish apex]

ok
that's objectively false

[graceful oyster]

Not liking a game means you either mistakenly chose a game that doesn't fit what you like to play or it is genuinely bad. I've never read a negative review that wasn't the former. You are the problem.

[graceful cairn]

this aint a sony game bro

[lavish apex]

there are like 5 and barely any of them last more than a minute

[exotic dome]

mio?

[rose sandal]

Not rlly I was exaggerating

[earnest drift]

if the game is good then there won’t be enough people saying it’s bad to outnumber those saying it’s good
just let thoughts be thoughts

[lavish apex]

exaggerating so horrifically that it's just a lie

[light swan]

wasgubg nachine

[graceful cairn]

i think this might just be bait actually

[graceful oyster]

And that's a good thing and is what will happen, but it's not like I'm gonna sit here and let a loose cannon slander a game for outright dumb reasons without lashing back.

[lavish apex]

thank you illusion for this powerful contribution

[earnest drift]

lashing out like mio’s weird hair tendril things

[light swan]

Armpit Hair btw

[rose sandal]

yeah those feel lowk weird

like the game js doesn’t feel NICE

[graceful oyster]

It might be bait

[graceful cairn]

bros just hating on anything atp

[graceful oyster]

I really hope this is bait, it's the only way it makes sense

[rose sandal]

what’s the game gonna do complain at me?

[exotic cedar]

From what ive saw, the gameplay looks smooth

[green owl]

hello how is yalls mornin if it is 12 am for u

[rose sandal]

That’s what I thought before playing it

[light swan]

who cares if its bait

witch crest has the highest AND second highest damaging attack in the entire game 😼

[graceful cairn]

this guys either a huge hater or its just high quality bait

[graceful oyster]

TRUE

[light swan]

wrong reply oops

[exotic cedar]

I can't play it so idk

[light swan]

who cares if its bait

witch crest has the highest AND second highest damaging attack in the entire game 😼

[rose sandal]

No I acc am a hater

I rlly do NOT like that game!

[light swan]

did bluey ever tell other people not to play mio

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[light swan]

._.

[earnest drift]

unless you count wanderer needle strike critting on every hit

[graceful oyster]

#sk-discussion message

[light swan]

fuck this fucking game bro

[rose sandal]

ONE PERSON who already said my thoughts were gonna make them not want to play

[light swan]

first red tools beats witch and then wanderer beating witch

[earnest drift]

it NEVER HAPPENS though

[rose sandal]

I didn’t say not to play it

[earnest drift]

0.02^5

[rose sandal]

I said I would recommend avoiding it

[earnest drift]

that’s the chance of it happening

[lavish apex]

i think he found out about tremors existing and decided it was a dogshit game

[graceful oyster]

Potato tomato

[light swan]

anytways lets talk about afterimage

[graceful cairn]

the fact that this guy was hating on the lore means it has to be bait fr

[light swan]

10/10 game, would not recommend

[rose sandal]

Potato Gooseberry like hello?

[lavish apex]

because liking ori more is just inconceivable to me

[light swan]

no no no

[rose sandal]

The lore is fine I js don’t like its execution

[light swan]

play mio, just avoid it

[rose sandal]

exactly

[raw pawn]

yk what fuck greymoor

[light swan]

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wooo WAHHHHHHH