sk-discussion

[earnest drift]

pharloom makes its own special currency to flex on hallownest

yes but to be fair so do pharloom citizens

[graceful cairn]

sounds about right

[earnest drift]

because they use shell shards for building

tools, bridges and statues

[graceful cairn]

okay but using like human bones for building shit would be kinda badass i cant blame them

[earnest drift]

yeah it would

actually i don't think shell shards are meant to be used for bridges because when they are it breaks when hornet steps on it too hard

they have stone and metal architecture in other places

maybe felix is the only one who uses shell shards for building things other than tools
because they keep breaking

[graceful cairn]

felix slander will not be tolerated

[orchid locust]

who is felix

[graceful cairn]

the quest board guy in bone bottom i think

[orchid locust]

flick?

[graceful cairn]

is that his name

man im bad with names 💔

[earnest drift]

i forgot his name

why did you think his name was felix as well

[orchid locust]

😭

[graceful cairn]

i just followed what you said lowkey it sounded right

[strange knot]

??????????? That does not make any sense

[graceful cairn]

yeah i had to hit the "need help" for this one

[smoky bridge]

Technicaly it'd be bones.

Bugs just got bones outside they got they skeleton outside.

[graceful cairn]

okay carrying bones on you is badass though

[smoky bridge]

Just had a random thought of how strange it would be for like. Souls-esque characters to try and trade.

[tropic swan]

Hello chat
How are you all this night?

[tropic swan]

Oh
i just did this a couple minutes ago X)

[smoky bridge]

I mean hornet's got it easy, it's just prayer beads.
Imagine trying to trade with the penitent.

Hands you a handful of salty water

[earnest drift]

new red tool where hornet just throws the shell shards at the enemy
she can throw 50 of them every second and each one deals 1 dmg
max capacity of 800

[smoky bridge]

Just. Videogame currencies are funny.

What the hell is a blood echo anyways.

[tropic swan]

Death by a thousand papercuts?

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer suckass

[smoky bridge]

Apropos nothing, btw

Entirely unprompted.

[still osprey]

This is what Crest I think each boss would use

[earnest drift]

yes

[tropic swan]

What makes you say that?

[smoky bridge]

Karmelita uses Beast Crest. You can tell cause she pogo

:v

[earnest drift]

vengefly king is far too brutal and messy to use hunter

[tropic swan]

Is this assuming they played silksong?

[smoky bridge]

Vengefly king is too stupid to have any crest 🚬

[wind gate]

This makes me wonder. If HK bosses were in silksong which ones would do double damage

[tropic swan]

Or like just the which crest aligns with the character

[graceful cairn]

watcher knights are reaper

[smoky bridge]

The image refuses to load :3

[arctic epoch]

Poor design

[smoky bridge]

Why would they be

[tropic swan]

What about the design do you think is poor?

I personally think seth would be wanderer actually..

[wind gate]

I think soul warrior is wanderer

[smoky bridge]

I disagree. People keep saying it's broken or OP, but it really is not.

[earnest drift]

do you think Karmelita is blind

[smoky bridge]

I think she's just clowning on hornet.

But it is an interesting Idea.

[wind gate]

She's just aurafarming by fighting hornet with her eyes closed

[earnest drift]

I just realised she might be always singing during her fight to use echolocation

[arctic epoch]

Overuse of yellow slot ( this is among the minor of my complaints about Silksong )

And lack of a gimmick

If i have to describe Wanderer in a word, it would be over-simplification

[tropic swan]

I don't think the wanderer's crest is broken, but it's the easiest crest to get results with
I don't think that's a bad thing though

[still osprey]

Soul Warrior, Soul Master and Groal all want shaman powers, it's the only logical choice

[tropic swan]

That's a very cool idea

[earnest drift]

we’re always fighting those who steal the spells and never the ones who created them

[smoky bridge]

It's a simple crest. It has a gimmick, too, it's just. Not particularly impactful.

[arctic epoch]

It's op relative to the amount of effort required to do maximum damage, and also the nature of its damage output

Which is facetank for the average player ( and hitless for the good ones )

[tropic swan]

I see
Those are valid arguments
I would have to agree with you mostly, although i do like having extra yellow slots for scuttlebrace or bracelet

But absolutely not my favorite crest

[smoky bridge]

Eeeh if you wanna face tank Beast is better, and you get better DPS if you can hitless it to maintain Fury.

[earnest drift]

what do you use scuttlebrace for

[smoky bridge]

Or with Hunter hitless is also better.

[arctic epoch]

Its not reliable, and its actually ironic that its a crest with an unreliable gimmick that many casual players end up relying on ( and in the extreme case, even became a crutch )

[tropic swan]

That's the neat part: I don't

[still osprey]

4 yellow tools is excessive you never need that many

[tropic swan]

But it's fun to mess around with

[wind gate]

Wanderer is pretty op if you're able to get close to bosses, just absolutely shred them

[wary drum]

Im so silk

[smoky bridge]

Wanderer is never gonna outperform Beast with good use, but I also think the game should just... Have a crest you can rely on.

[tropic swan]

The wanderer crest isn't reliable?

It's whole thing is it's reliable..

[arctic epoch]

The gimmick*

[tropic swan]

No gimmicks to worry about, only fundamentals

[graceful cairn]

theyre like big guys with slow nail attacks that feels like reaper

[tropic swan]

The crit you mean?
I think it's inoffensive

[earnest drift]

are they still doing this

[wind gate]

Reaper crest got me through hard times

[smoky bridge]

And wanderer is pretty easy to rely on. You get solid, simple moveset, you get to slap all the yellows you want on it. (I find myself using more and more yellows lately)

[arctic epoch]

Well when you consider that the fundamentals are press attack as fast as possible, it doesn't stand in good lights for me

[last oasis]

I need a crest that allows me to have all the tools at once

[earnest drift]

I thought the footsteps to electricity thing was just an art project and wasn’t viable

[tropic swan]

I understand that
I think it's not the most fun crest, but it's good at what it does at least

[distant prawn]

decent

[smoky bridge]

You still have to dodge if you wanna maintain good play, and its pogo is clunky in combat compared to hunter.

[arctic epoch]

I don't deny that it's a good crest, just a lame crest

Lamer than Reaper, might i say

[smoky bridge]

People who think it's a crutch don't realise how good red tools are IMO :v

[tropic swan]

In that sense, i 100% agree with you

[arctic epoch]

Unless you facetank, of course

[smoky bridge]

You're giving up a whole red slot.

[tropic swan]

Very boring crest

[wind gate]

Reaper crest for platforming, wanderer for bosses

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but like. If you wanna facetank, all the power to ya.

[last oasis]

just use the openheimer tool and hit them with the hollow purple opening

[tropic swan]

I'm confused at how much of a hot take it is in this community, but I actually think the reaper crest makes pogoing harder than most other crests

[raw pawn]

why is this the most downloaded mod

[wind gate]

Really? It has an insane range it's kinda hard to mess up a pogo with it

[arctic epoch]

Most people's QOL changes are just difficulty reducer mod

[distant prawn]

dawg

[wind gate]

bunch of noobs

[smoky bridge]

I don't know. I just. Think people get mad at the "win easy" solutions in the base game.

[distant prawn]

easier to hit than hunters

[graceful cairn]

not even like qol or debug bro...

[tropic swan]

Yes, but the delay is too long and it messes me up
It's the same reason I don't like the architect crest
The beast and hunter crest also have delays but i think those are made better by the range they have

[smoky bridge]

It is delayed

[raw pawn]

I only use the QO L mod cause it skips the part where hornet gets cramps

[tropic swan]

Strongly, strongly disagree

[still osprey]

Architect has the worst pogo by far it's not even close

[graceful cairn]

ive played with double rosaries before though cause fuck grinding

[last oasis]

it can as some people are used to knight fast swinging and slower swing of the reaper crest can mess with your mind

[tropic swan]

I know, right

[wind gate]

What is the lore reason for hornet's period cramps anyway

[smoky bridge]

You guys just suck ass with architect mkay

[tropic swan]

That's exactly how I feel

[distant prawn]

better than beast crest tho

[raw pawn]

shaman has a great pogo

[smoky bridge]

She fell

[tropic swan]

Disagree, but less strongly

[wind gate]

I guess bro

[smoky bridge]

And is recovering from the cage.

[still osprey]

QoL is the only good QoL mod cuz it brings actual qol changes and it's not just "make game easy"

[smoky bridge]

Do not call me bro please.

[tropic swan]

It's fine, but i find it a little jarring

[last oasis]

best crest is when they steal Hornet's cloak and needle

[wind gate]

I guess girl

[graceful cairn]

she lowkey fell all the way from blasted steps to moss grotto in a cage that kinda hurts

[tropic swan]

What does it do?

[arctic epoch]

I like QOL mods that make my game progression slower

[still osprey]

A bunch of great stuff

[distant prawn]

is this just absolute radiance in silksong

[smoky bridge]

This is literally what it's about btw.
She's recovering from the cage suppressing her silk, and then she also fell like five screens.

[wind gate]

You can do that in game too

[still osprey]

https://thunderstore.io/c/hollow-knight-silksong/p/Vitaxses/QoL/

[graceful cairn]

speeds up stuff like slow elevators skips certain sequences like hornets cramps makes more cutscenes skippable makes unlocking bell stations faster makes riding the bell beast faster etc

[raw pawn]

the QO L mod stops hornet from getting cramps every run, lets you skip dialouges fast, makes elevators fast and the bell stations are quick too

[still osprey]

Things like faster animations, old patch settings, removes the hornet period cramps

[raw pawn]

Idk what else tbh

[graceful cairn]

not in a cage while already weak!

[smoky bridge]

Yeah, but she was in a cage that was weakening her.

[tropic swan]

That seems about right

[still osprey]

I use QoL to do volt pogos cuz I don't want to bother with downpatching https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408088709269557369/1482825011411685506/Cogwork_Core.mp4?ex=69bba7a8&is=69ba5628&hm=43625c458639b86b120ae06d045d6203dafabe893dd9e46b1022a77e16968632&

[smoky bridge]

Notice how she shrugs off the underworks elevator, because that one does not have the binding runes

[tropic swan]

Probably no one will know what I'm talking about, but this reminds me of mega ball jumps in mega man 8

Very cool

[last oasis]

Cage has more weight than Hornet and as the things go bugs on themselves can survive from giant heighs as they won't build up enough velocity, but when you put a bug in a cage and drop it the cage builds up faster velocity than bug would and the bug is dragged with the cage faster until reaching the point where it could get hurt from the impact and backlash

[wind gate]

Makes sense

[last oasis]

or Hornet just had period cramps

[smoky bridge]

Yeah she also gets hurt in the underworks elevator IIRC, but doesn't get silk cramp

[last oasis]

no one will ever know

[wind gate]

Makes sense

[smoky bridge]

The logistics of silksong maggots upsets me.

[graceful cairn]

would this imply act 1 to the start of act 3 took place over a month

[last oasis]

your silk is mine

[wind gate]

Next hollow knight game there is no possessing everyone is just evil

[distant prawn]

Steel Soul

[smoky bridge]

Is it just the water ruining the silk, or are the maggots like. Feeding on it.
And if it's the maggots, then Hornet is producing and storing silk inside her shell so that's an upsetting mental image.

[tropic swan]

Are the maggots, like, physically sucking the silk off of hornet's body?

[last oasis]

time dialiation like in cyberpunk when you get information that Relic will kill you in 14 days

[wind gate]

I wish maggots would suck me

[smoky bridge]

My, least mentally scarring Idea is that the water dissolves the silk, and then the maggots slurp the silk goop up when it leaks out.

[last oasis]

don't worry about it

[raw pawn]

Old scuttlebrace and old mist?

[patent root]

hey do we have an art/media channel?

[smoky bridge]

Because otherwise the maggots have to like. Really get in there and I don't wanna think about it

[wind gate]

Yeh #art-discussion #hk-art-gallery

[patent root]

but like for not my own art

[wind gate]

Uhhh #off-topic ?

[patent root]

but it isnt my art can i still post it?

[wind gate]

No

[still osprey]

Old Scuttlebrace allows you to climb unclimbable walls
Old Mist lets you mist juggle

[patent root]

hmmmm ok thanks!

[last oasis]

you can post it in art discussion giving credit to the original creator

[graceful cairn]

itd have to be the maggots right cause normal water is fine

[patent root]

mhm mhm

i can give credit yea

[smoky bridge]

The water is very green and polluted tho.

[wind gate]

What if the water was purple

[last oasis]

but usually it's just done to say you're drawing something and using it as a point of reference

[graceful cairn]

good point plus washing in regular water does cure it

[smoky bridge]

Not Morshu

[smoky bridge]

???

[patent root]

yk what nvm

[last oasis]

you didn't know that?

[patent root]

i dont need to post it lmao! better safe than sorry

[wind gate]

I think that means the water in bilewater gets so gross that maggots are able to thrive in it

[graceful cairn]

but the effect is specifically the maggots so i think they are feeding on the silk

[smoky bridge]

Why would I know?

[last oasis]

didn't play the game?

[wary drum]

The games ost is so good

[tropic swan]

What does silk taste like?

[graceful cairn]

theres only like two places you can ever see this tbf

[wary drum]

Idk eat a silk cloth

[patent root]

calcuim

[tropic swan]

Are there any silkeaters in chat?

[wary drum]

But i know that silk tastes like grandmothersilk

[raw pawn]

oh wait this mod sounds fun

[last oasis]

does eating frozen pizza count

[smoky bridge]

The only water near the maggot water I can think of, is the lake. And usually, by the time I am there, I'm also sending the fleas there. So there is a bench, to cleanse myself. Between the water, and the closest pool of maggot water. So I never thought to dunk myself in the regular water while maggoted.

[tropic swan]

Close enough..

[patent root]

oh yea they do, again they start as maggots then those ones that jump out at you then roach hounds
the maggots are born and feed on the dead who fall into the water

[wind gate]

I never used cross stitch

[tropic swan]

Sacrilege...

[graceful cairn]

weavenest murglin also has some clean water in it iirc

[wind gate]

It was always thread storm, sometimes pale nails

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but you only go there once and never again.

[raw pawn]

not even sharpdart?

[smoky bridge]

Also very gross weavenest name. Very fitting.

[wind gate]

Sharpdart until I got thread storm

[graceful cairn]

ARE YOU EATING IT FROZEN WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

[smoky bridge]

Murglin just sounds gross innit

[wind gate]

Hopital

[last oasis]

FOOD

[last oasis]

nah I was fine

[tropic swan]

How much of that did you eat...

[smoky bridge]

I mean the pizzas are basically done, they are pre baked. it is safe to eat them frozen.

[last oasis]

all of it

[smoky bridge]

most some might have straight up raw dough that could cause stomach pain.

[tropic swan]

Are you okay?

[last oasis]

it's an old photo when I did it at a music school

[last oasis]

physically or mentally?

[tropic swan]

Yes

[smoky bridge]

But also you ain't gonndie from frozen pizza. It's weird to do but perfectly safe.

[last oasis]

yes

[wind gate]

Why would you eat frozen pizza it's just stale and hard

[smoky bridge]

Like drinking hotdog water

[last oasis]

in a school and it costs 2$

[tropic swan]

They served you frozen pizza at school?

[last oasis]

better is the face of everyone when seeing me eat it

[tropic swan]

Is that legal?

[last oasis]

nah I bought it from supermarket next door

[raw pawn]

they served you pizza at school?

[graceful cairn]

"safe" but is it worth it

[tropic swan]

I see

[last oasis]

it tastes good

[tropic swan]

Was this not a normal experience?

[quartz gulch]

Happy to see we are discussing Silksong again.

[topaz sparrow]

Yes, i like frozen pizza boss

[smoky bridge]

I got 3 cents in my account rn

[last oasis]

scroll up and you will see most cursed image of your life

[raw pawn]

our school doesn't even serve food lmao

the school used to be in

[last oasis]

that's bad

[graceful cairn]

evil school

[tropic swan]

Where do you live...

[smoky bridge]

Like. The equivalent
I have converted for your convenience. You yanks.

[raw pawn]

egypt

[still osprey]

omg timezone twins ‼️

[tropic swan]

I see..

[smoky bridge]

They ain't got no food in school cause the British already ate all the mummies, there's nothing left.

[graceful cairn]

i bought a property in egypt

[tropic swan]

What does a mummy taste like?

[quartz gulch]

Nah, doesn't even compare.

[smoky bridge]

Probably bad

[last oasis]

now just to wait around 50 years until it's built

[raw pawn]

wtf gor calm down I just started the game

[last oasis]

got something more cursed?

[smoky bridge]

They ground them up. Because they thought it was like. Miracle medicine. And also because they were racist as fuck.

[last oasis]

this is peak

[smoky bridge]

Same reason Americans got so much quack archeology back when.

On account of grave robbing.

[quartz gulch]

Yes.

[tropic swan]

I imagine a mummy tastes like a 9 month old burger that was wrapped in toilet paper

[last oasis]

still more fresh than MCdonal burger

[smoky bridge]

More like. Extremely dried and dessicated over salted jerky, would be my guess

[quartz gulch]

Could you please take your weird food discussion to #off-topic ?

[smoky bridge]

On account of the drying process.
Also, sand in it.

[tropic swan]

Sad but true

[smoky bridge]

To swerve back into silksong.

[tropic swan]

I apologize

[smoky bridge]

I almost forgot how funny the Great Gourmand is.

[last oasis]

would you like to talk about how true skongers act in the presence of the spoder?

[smoky bridge]

The contrast when you needolin them both is so funny.

[graceful cairn]

i forgot how dumb his boss fight is

[smoky bridge]

❓

[graceful cairn]

completely unavoidable charges are we fr

[smoky bridge]

:( bad silkpost.

[tropic swan]

Am i stupid, what boss are we talking about

[graceful cairn]

worst one in the game fr

[smoky bridge]

Not a real one

[graceful cairn]

very real smh

as real as pale king being the final boss of silksong

[smoky bridge]

The gourmand is never a boss fight. You just feed him some random crap that's way too expensive and he is briefly happy.

[quartz gulch]

Karmelita's "dress" is made of her own flesh. She is wearing flesh over flesh, with sharp sawblade spikes in between.

[smoky bridge]

((I know this is a joke I just refuse to lean into it))

[tropic swan]

I personally think this one was worse
She kept targeting garmond and phantom so i could never buff or heal

[last oasis]

peak

[smoky bridge]

Because I'm a boring.

[graceful cairn]

what am i looking at

[smoky bridge]

Silksona 4

[tropic swan]

The fakeout final boss

[last oasis]

what phantom

[graceful cairn]

whats these peoples obsession with putting bug corpses on themselves bro

[tropic swan]

This is a generic image, but when I fought her my team was hornet, phantom, garmond and trobbio

My strategy was to buff up shakra to deal most of the damage

[smoky bridge]

If you lived in a world where all animals are little weirdly shaped humans, we'd be using human skin clothes too.

[quartz gulch]

It's not a corpse, it's her own flesh, which is alive.

[last oasis]

why did you take Trobbio? When they fixed the Oppenheimer combo

[tropic swan]

That's disgusting..

[smoky bridge]

It's true.

[graceful cairn]

thats somehow worse

[tropic swan]

I don't know how to optimize builds for him, but i just like him

[smoky bridge]

You can't tell me I'm wrong.

[tropic swan]

You aren't, but i still hate it

[last oasis]

not really

[smoky bridge]

The truth is often painful

[raw pawn]

let's try this

[graceful cairn]

oh lord

[wind gate]

I'm surprised Hornet had multiple mates, what do you think her standards are?

[smoky bridge]

You think if cows and pigs looked more vaguely human-like you'd not be making stuff out of them?

Really bug in silksong just refers to like. A living being, basically, with few exceptions.

[cerulean sable]

Morally speaking

[last oasis]

I meant on tissue level

[tropic swan]

I imagine hornet is into tall bugs

[cerulean sable]

Which one of the hearts is the best one to spare

[smoky bridge]

Yeah they're more like. Bug is what mammal is.

[last oasis]

no fur so our skin wouldn't grant much protection and it can be fragile

[smoky bridge]

She probably likes fighters.

[graceful cairn]

knight x hornet shippers are rolling in their graves rn

[tropic swan]

Oh, absolutely

[raw pawn]

lmao

[tropic swan]

I don't think i like that ship that much, they're siblings...

[topaz sparrow]

Fun

[tropic swan]

Half siblings, but still

[smoky bridge]

I mean. Even ignoring the whole. Parent thing. She calls them ghost.

[tropic swan]

Phantom, don't look, but there's a fraud behind you

[smoky bridge]

Iike. This isn't an affectionate nickname she perceives the knight as like. Basically weird fucked up undead.

[graceful cairn]

indeed they are!

[quartz gulch]

Well maybe you are. In HK the species is very often the same as the thing they do. Almost never is there a species that doesn't take a predetermined job it was already assigned to. Hence race and clans/tribes are very often the same thing.

There is also the difference between bugs and beasts. The bugs are sapient while the beasts are merely sentient. Just because animals in the real world breathe air doesn't mean they are humans, even if humans also breathe air.

[graceful cairn]

real ones ship hornet and quirrel fr

[quartz gulch]

Also one lacks gender and is a corpse.

[smoky bridge]

You can have romantic partners while being genderless.

[graceful cairn]

no? hornet both has gender and is not a corpse

[quartz gulch]

Quirrel is literally so old he dies at the end of his part in the story.

[tropic swan]

I don't think the gender thing is a problem?

[smoky bridge]

The grandpa

[earnest drift]

that’s why she brushes cornifer off but is interested in shakra

[quartz gulch]

Then you could assume I'm not referring to Hornet.

[graceful cairn]

unc 🦖 🦖

[steady pumice]

damn i keep forgetting i cant upload images anymmore 💔

[raw pawn]

first sinner calm down I just woke up

[tropic swan]

Hasn't hornet also been around for a while?

[steady pumice]

do i gotta level up

[graceful cairn]

ohhh i thought you were attributing those qualities to each of them

mb i cant read

[topaz sparrow]

Try to convince her

[smoky bridge]

Ancient beaste

[wind gate]

Hornet is very princess-like so I assume she's into the gentleman type of bugs, who maybe can also fight

[smoky bridge]

Nah

Hornet is dogshit at being a person.

[tropic swan]

So like garmond?

[smoky bridge]

She routinely forgets to introduce herself.

I think she'd prefer like. Blunt in manner and speaking.

[wind gate]

Garmond is a hobo

[tropic swan]

She's just like me, fr

[quartz gulch]

Well if it was made to be empty, why would it be capable of doing anything besides its purpose? Especially for things that it is basically incapable of doing, like talking. Idk, I've gotta go now.

[tropic swan]

I will not take this slander...

[quartz gulch]

Yes, but I'm talking about the fact that Quirrel is literally dead.

[graceful cairn]

the hornet and garmond shippers are thriving

[wind gate]

And he's short

[tropic swan]

Oh, well, goodbye

[quartz gulch]

Bye

[orchid locust]

don’t you know getting a partner costs 4.99 gender

[smoky bridge]

The way hornet talks is really funny because she's all high register, but the things she's saying are not high register most of the time.

[tropic swan]

That's true

So, maybe hornet would like khann?

[smoky bridge]

It's like they taugt a child nothing but how to stab and kill things, and then taught her queen's English l exclusively.

[graceful cairn]

hornet is an alpha fr
-# kill me for this

[wind gate]

If he wasn't evil, maybe

[smoky bridge]

He's also dead.

Deader than elvis

[wind gate]

He's also dead

[raw pawn]

HELP

[graceful cairn]

just dont get hit

[smoky bridge]

M... Phantnet.

[tropic swan]

Who is still around for hornet then?
I feel the easiest and best answer would be shakra

Or the green prince, but he also dies

[smoky bridge]

He gay

[earnest drift]

phantom x hornet is good

[tropic swan]

And i think it's clear that the prince is gay

[smoky bridge]

Also he hates her.

[orchid locust]

“if you are able to fulfill my request, good sir, i would like to order a hamburger known as a ‘Big Mac’ with a side of a large-sized carton of french fries”

[tropic swan]

It's alright, but I think there are better options for both

[smoky bridge]

Wel. Not hate Sher but he is not over it.

[wind gate]

If hornet's okay with women then yeah

[spare isle]

Groal the Great

[earnest drift]

hornet x Shakra x second sentinel

[tropic swan]

I think she would be bisexual or lesbian

[smoky bridge]

It's not about better, the toxicity is the fun part.

[wind gate]

She would legit say this

[tropic swan]

I see

[smoky bridge]

Accurate.

[orchid locust]

“hornet x shakra x chatgpt”

[smoky bridge]

Like. The point of fiction is to be interesting.

[graceful cairn]

where are the hornet and styx shippers at

[earnest drift]

second sentinel is so much more than a clanker

[earnest drift]

Styx is weird

[smoky bridge]

I mean. She does really like the Second Sentinel in a way.

[wind gate]

I can't ship styx with anything it's just sad

[graceful cairn]

yeah no shit 😭

[earnest drift]

also I just don’t like shipping hornet with men

[smoky bridge]

She's projecting a bit, sure. But she is kinda right the Secsent is similar to her.

In a lot of ways.

[orchid locust]

true

[wind gate]

weird but ok

[smoky bridge]

Truth nuke

The only reason I do not ship her with Styx

[smoky bridge]

Why weird. Not everything has to be about men

[tropic swan]

Why do you think that's weird?

[wind gate]

Idk, I wasn't focusing what I was typing

[graceful cairn]

hornet never came off as lesbian to me ngl

[rose forge]

?????? pilgrim????

[earnest drift]

hornet x Quirrel would be my favourite straight ship with hornet and I think it’s mid

[smoky bridge]

I think I just conjured the single ship noone ever thought of, (with a named character)

[tropic swan]

I think it's less so that hornet is lesbian and more so there are too many female characters that work with her and almost no male ones

[rose forge]

Thats the Best ship twin🙏

[smoky bridge]

Mort. And Hornet.

[earnest drift]

Quirrel cannot handle hornet

[smoky bridge]

Abysmal. Dogshit.

[graceful cairn]

flea master x hornet when

[wind gate]

Hornet x Player (me)

[rose forge]

Holy shit💔

[earnest drift]

mortnet

[smoky bridge]

Mm... Self shipping is kinda cringe.

[raw pawn]

Okay I think this will make a reasonable rando run

[graceful cairn]

oh theres plenty of fanfic of this im sure

[rose forge]

Best ship accepted canon

[earnest drift]

shakra, second sentinel, phantom, eva are all great partners for hornet

[orchid locust]

i’m shipping hornet (a black widow spider) to your mailbox (through fedex)

[earnest drift]

also twelfth architect

[wind gate]

They're called "x reader" fics

[graceful cairn]

phantom is crazy

[tropic swan]

Spooky

[raw pawn]

I am shipping hornet to australlia

[earnest drift]

btw twelfth architect is confirmed to not have built second sentinel so twelfth x second is fine

[earnest drift]

but that’s where she lives

[smoky bridge]

It would have been fine either way, it would just be a weirdship

[wind gate]

Where's the first sentinel

[azure patrol]

Opinions?

[smoky bridge]

A creepship

[tropic swan]

Even so, I can't see them as anything but sibling coded

[wind gate]

hey white lady remember that time

[orchid locust]

how would eva even work does hornet just carry around her tank all day

[rose forge]

Guys all of these are horrible ships

check mine out

[graceful cairn]

i think thats the point

[rose forge]

https://tenor.com/view/flyby-sailby-hms-surprise-surprise-sailby-surprise-flyby-gif-17988391

[raw pawn]

Pale King, the vessel is here

[earnest drift]

the tank is changed to be humanoid and movable by Eva

she becomes a clanker like second sentinel and twelfth architect

[rose forge]

I built it in china

[smoky bridge]

I like the vibe of Eva just being there.

[azure patrol]

Remember that time I had to pay up for child support

[smoky bridge]

Hornet dredging in some cart to wheel her back home.

[graceful cairn]

so little hornet x eva shippers...

[wind gate]

The Wyrm does not concern himself with child support

[earnest drift]

Eva is so cool

pale king x dying

[azure patrol]

Why all of the hbs are female?
Only NMH and PK are male

[earnest drift]

pale king and white lady canonically divorced btw

[tropic swan]

Pale king x buzzsaw?

[rose forge]

Explain

[smoky bridge]

I love that the more I think about silksong the more I notice how the characters parallel hornet in some way.

[graceful cairn]

pale king x me

[orchid locust]

this is my favorite currently active ship

[rose forge]

Damnnnn son that shit is lit

[smoky bridge]

Consida

[earnest drift]

when pale king moves his palace to the dream realm to run away he didn’t ask white lady to join him

so it was pretty much a breakup

[tropic swan]

I think you are sleeping on zoteboat...

[rose forge]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-funeral-burning-ship-gif-14974277

[smoky bridge]

Radiance X Pale King,
toxic as hell

[wind gate]

She couldn't fit

[azure patrol]

Only 1740s kids will remember 🥶🥶

[earnest drift]

still a breakup

[rose forge]

White Lady Agreed to it though no?

[orchid locust]

holy shit green prince merch just dropped 🔥

[earnest drift]

but she didn’t go with him
meaning they were separating

[smoky bridge]

What do you think a divorce is.

[tropic swan]

Where do you find this...

[wind gate]

And wtf will the white lady do when the pale king's dead on his throne

[rose forge]

NOT LIKE THAT, AGREED TO STAYING

[wind gate]

Wrong person replied I think

[rose forge]

NOT DIVORCING

[orchid locust]

it was launched in 1931

[azure patrol]

Hornet x buzzsaws

[rose forge]

PILGRIIIIIIIM

[earnest drift]

also I think the kingsoul halves coming together and becoming void heart is a metaphor for their relationship ending in void-covered tragedy

[smoky bridge]

Yeah she apparently agreed to separate.

[rose forge]

Not a divorce still

[azure patrol]

WL hide inside a cocoon with her own will.

[graceful cairn]

traitor lord x me

[rose forge]

Finally someone knows

[tropic swan]

I love the implication that she specifically asked the architect to make her a buzzsaw tool
She takes after her father, it appears

[earnest drift]

either pale king didn’t bother to ask white lady to join him

or he asked her and she refused

either way it’s pretty much a permanent separation

[smoky bridge]

I still wonder what Hornet told architec to get this response.
Or did Archi just magically suss out that hornet likes buzzsaws.

[rose forge]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-jump-boat-dive-gif-9584891584936750023

[earnest drift]

weird thing about white palace is you can see white roots growing around it
why is that

[rose forge]

We ship bugs with robots, we are the Hollow Knight Community✊

[wind gate]

Radiance x me

[tropic swan]

Grimm x me and he burns me alive

[raw pawn]

btw if you are using item randomizer make sure to delete everything in "silksongrandomizerdata" when you start a new run so you don't get bugs

[graceful cairn]

but hes big and strong he can take care of me

[azure patrol]

It could be a divorce or not depends on how you interpret kingsoul charm description

[smoky bridge]

"where's the fucking light"

[wind gate]

No bugs?

[rose forge]

Pilgrim😭🙏

[azure patrol]

Jarvis
7 billion more kids

[tropic swan]

What kinds of bugs?

[rose forge]

your bame is so correct

[raw pawn]

bugsong

[rose forge]

you know they are both mortal enemies to eachother

[earnest drift]

I’m assuming all the bugs dressed in white in white palace aren’t real

so pale king was imagining them in his white palace as a coping mechanism?

so maybe he did the same for the white roots, he missed his wife

[wind gate]

Why is pale king so freaky

[orchid locust]

twelfth architect is generative AI 🥀

[smoky bridge]

That's why it's toxic as hell.

[azure patrol]

"So is Herrah and PK yet here we are => "

[earnest drift]

well, immortal enemies

[rose forge]

no its impossible for a relationship🙏
They would try to kill eachother if they see a pixel of themselves

[raw pawn]

[smoky bridge]

I could make it work.

[rose forge]

Unless they had some deal like pk and herrah

[tropic swan]

I'm curious how?

[earnest drift]

radiance x pale king is fun

[wind gate]

[graceful cairn]

and it turns into a fierce romance where neither one wants to admit they like the other

[smoky bridge]

Pale king does love to offer deals.

[wind gate]

It makes no sense in my honest opinion

[azure patrol]

PK x GMS is the good ending we never get and never deserve

[rose forge]

New Comic idea, Danny should take notes

[earnest drift]

what if pale king did the herrah thing and offered giving radiance a child in return for ending the infection

[tropic swan]

What use does the radiance have for a child?

[wind gate]

Radiance would probably think that's weird

[orchid locust]

3 x 5

[rose forge]

as much as diobolical that sounds it could be valid

[graceful cairn]

what if she always wanted a child

what if she just wanted to raise a kid

[earnest drift]

gms gets a daughter by blood, pale king gets to co-rule two kingdoms, everyone’s happy

[tropic swan]

I wonder how the kid would turn out..

[rose forge]

Grand Pale Silk King guy

[graceful cairn]

the final boss of silksong is the pale king guys

[orchid locust]

could the radiance theoretically be able to leave the dream realm with assistance

[azure patrol]

I assume Radiance only wants domination hence why the void is its ancient enemy

[graceful cairn]

good times...

[wind gate]

She wanted to rule over hallownest wtf are you talking about

[azure patrol]

A secret silksong ending where instead of void gms gets pulled by pale king

[exotic dome]

grand father plasmium

[graceful cairn]

what if she also wanted a child you never know

[graceful cairn]

pale king does pull fr

[earnest drift]

I hate pilgrims they should all be folded and packaged

[rose forge]

Account based in Citadel

[graceful cairn]

nine sols type shit 😭 😭

[earnest drift]

wdym

[wind gate]

filthy pilgrims

[exotic dome]

account based in whiteward

[azure patrol]

Account based in dream realm

[wind gate]

whiteward impressed

[tropic swan]

Account based in the cradle?

[rose forge]

Citadel Impressed

Pilgrim Scared

Bellhart Confusion

[raw pawn]

nvm I think this one will be more fun

[earnest drift]

guys what does account based in place mean

[azure patrol]

Instagram about page

[earnest drift]

oh

[azure patrol]

Account based in <country>

[earnest drift]

why would the citadel fold and package pilgrims the citadel loves pilgrims

[wind gate]

Release the beast files, GMS

[rose forge]

so someone types a scam message for example, and their instagram has an "Account based in" thing, which will probably be India as its root joke.

[azure patrol]

Account based in deepnest

Pale Wyrm always right
Glowstick always wrong

[earnest drift]

well they enslaved some and turned some into automatons and experimented on some but otherwise they love pilgrims

[tropic swan]

I would love to pet and spoil a pilgrim

[earnest drift]

lace is the one who kills all pilgrims

[wind gate]

They love RICH pilgrims

[uneven harbor]

ppl will condemn ai vids then go scroll tiktok or use streaming services lol

[rose forge]

A-A-A-AUTOMATONS?????.....

[earnest drift]

yes

[orchid locust]

fuck you shuanshuan i recycled your coin AND broke your clay pot ✌️ ✌️

[azure patrol]

Day one in the dangerous streets of pharloom (horrible street food)

[smoky bridge]

Can rember her

[wind gate]

What would pharloom's street food be

[earnest drift]

the poor pilgrims should be wrapped in bandages and thrown into magma but the rich pilgrims should used as building materials

[smoky bridge]

M... Italian.

[hearty wren]

[smoky bridge]

Spaghetti

[tropic swan]

I imagine the radiance would be a deadbeat mom

[nocturne storm]

is there a release date on sea of sorrow yet?

[azure patrol]

The slab travel review| worst prison food ever!

[earnest drift]

radiance already killed her own kids btw
the moth tribe is dead

[smoky bridge]

She was a deadbeat god apparently. Shitty enough to the moths that they forgor her

[orchid locust]

how to end the infection (easy working 2026)

• pk sends hornet to dream realm
• hornet pets radiance
• hornet leaves but never forgets how fluffy radiance is
• hornet is immortal so radiance is never forgotten

[azure patrol]

Bitch bug

[smoky bridge]

How do you be a god and get forgotten lmao.

[wind gate]

Like this?

[tropic swan]

Exactly..

[earnest drift]

must’ve been a very negligible and weak god

[tropic swan]

Yes

[azure patrol]

I don't wanna ruin it but hbs don't need worshippers or remembrance to survive.

[earnest drift]

grand mother silk no diffs radiance

[smoky bridge]

Radiance sucks. Radiance is like. The one god that is entirely unreasonable

[wind gate]

GMS is slow as hell

[tropic swan]

The radiance kind of sucks
She expects people to remember her but she doesn't do anything except plague the mortal world

[earnest drift]

“I want to be remembered!” ok then why are you killing everyone corpses can’t remember you

[tropic swan]

Oh
I didn't mean to repeat what you said

I apologize

[wind gate]

Hornet when you're not playing the game

[tropic swan]

What would hornet's favorite snack be?

[smoky bridge]

"How dare you no longer worship me?
The moss prophet starts worshipping her
"No, that doesn't count. Fuck you."

[azure patrol]

Ragebait of that level doesn't work on me

[orchid locust]

if radiance really wants to be remembered why didn’t she just like take over a few people and have them spell out “RADIANCE” with a picture of her in the middle of the city of tears or sm

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-this-post-was-fact-checked-this-post-was-fact-checked-by-real-citadel-patriots-silksong-grand-mother-silk-gif-15533073062746572687

[azure patrol]

Why there is a +7000 rosary transfer in my account 😭😭

[wind gate]

Some berries probabaly

[earnest drift]

fun fact: grand mother silk needs to consume weavers to wake up, but she never tried to consume widow

[tropic swan]

Sour, or sweet?

[smoky bridge]

GMS X Widow
Invest now.

[azure patrol]

She would rather mutilate her like she wants to do to the others

[wind gate]

She'd eat sour just to be tough

[smoky bridge]

I actually think it was not GMS who mutilated widow.

[earnest drift]

no the other weavers did that

[smoky bridge]

That was the weavers.

[orchid locust]

i’ve already invested in fs x widow how do i dump my stocks

[earnest drift]

because she stayed loyal to gms

[tropic swan]

I see

[azure patrol]

Where does it say that

[earnest drift]

it’s logical
who else could’ve done it

[tropic swan]

I thought it was the citadel bugs that did it?

[wind gate]

I did it

[raw pawn]

fuck no not in this arena

[rose forge]

What if you spent 5 days in peak Pharloom?
Day one, you wake up in your house, Minimum Decorations, and the smell of silk, immidiately filling your nose.
Day Two, You taste the Cuisine of the citadel, For Breakfast. its a Pool Dweller, and for Dinner Cooked Slab Prisoners
Day 3, You see the infastructure of the citadel, made of pure gold and Silver, this was the biggest place in Pharloom.
Day 4, you meet a Weaver, Politicians, Powerful and intimidating, Smarter than you, and twice the size of you, they rule the streets and get into politic works in pharloom.
Day 5, you Begin to grow Plasmium in your house, Since rent is due. and Socrates Walks in, he asks; "If plasmium is your power, what are you without it?" ... "do you control the Plasmium?" .. you slime out socrates, you are teleported back.
You saw Infastructure, Beauty, Order, And rule. But you also saw Death, Dictatism, and cannibalism..

[earnest drift]

how would gms mutilate her anyway
she’d need to haunt dozens of bugs to hold her still and do it
it’s not reasonable

[strange knot]

Lmao

[smoky bridge]

Thy end is now.

[tropic swan]

Good luck

[earnest drift]

the weavers ruled the citadel so it’s close

[raw pawn]

last judge camping me at the start of the game

[azure patrol]

I am actually thinking
Gms is basically nightmare's heart if it sucked at doing its job

[queen acorn]

what sin could you have commited before moss mother

[tropic swan]

Close enough

[wind gate]

What if instead of weavers it was beavers

[smoky bridge]

Hornet has

A bad vibe

[queen acorn]

true

[azure patrol]

Peak copypasta
Deserved to be remembered in #hk-meme

[tropic swan]

Skipping cramps with mods

[smoky bridge]

I accidentally pressed send too early.

[queen acorn]

hornet has the sin of being a w*aver

[rose forge]

I completely made it up

[raw pawn]

moorwing is not bad I guess

[tropic swan]

I'm actually interested in fighting moorwing in a small arena

Sounds more fun than what we got

[queen acorn]

unlore accurate

moorwing is a bird

[azure patrol]

Yup enjoy 1000 hits to bring this thing down

[tropic swan]

Is the crawfather not also a bird?

[queen acorn]

i

[smoky bridge]

Moorwing is a bigass fly.

[queen acorn]

yeah this

[orchid locust]

craws and fayforn aren’t birds they’re bird shaped bugs

[queen acorn]

also i dont think crawfather is mobile like moorwing

[smoky bridge]

He phat

[tropic swan]

I think this is my new favorite reaction image

[queen acorn]

lace is a child shaped bug

[tidal glade]

Feels like Savage Beastfly atp

[queen acorn]

of a distant land

[smoky bridge]

His tits too big and heavy

[orchid locust]

lace is a croissant shaped bug

[tropic swan]

Dad bod

[queen acorn]

truth

[azure patrol]

I think she is edible

[safe venture]

@slender juniper look what this guy @leaden kelp said

[orchid locust]

or a mushroom shaped bug

[queen acorn]

reaper is goated idc

[raw pawn]

yeah he wasn't that bad

[orchid locust]

how much y’all think lace would sell for in the silk markets of medieval baghdad

[queen acorn]

one hit from death

[leaden kelp]

😭

[earnest drift]

all the bidders were impaled

[smoky bridge]

Fayforn might just be straight up a weird bird Tho. It has actual down

[tropic swan]

Weird birds...

[earnest drift]

there isn’t really a point in specifying that craws aren’t birds, they look and act like birds, and it doesn’t change the story

[queen acorn]

fayforn is the reincarnation of the pale king

[earnest drift]

hk bugs are never bugs anyway

[queen acorn]

well theres one thing

the craws werent affected by the haunting right

[raw pawn]

wtf is this pebb

[earnest drift]

they are

[queen acorn]

ion see them reanimating from silk

[azure patrol]

Depends. Most of them are made up species

[queen acorn]

its kinda on sight with us

[earnest drift]

play the needolin

[azure patrol]

Pale King is probably the only reptile we know

[earnest drift]

wait why is he a reptile

[queen acorn]

i dont think thats limited to haunted bugs

[tropic swan]

Can you not just... buy the 30 rosary one and get 90 more?

Randomizers are funny

[earnest drift]

are the muckroaches more like dogs or crocodiles

[rose forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372996708937502750/1402824347164475578/togif.gif

[orchid locust]

infinite money glitch (pebb%)

[azure patrol]

Idk I just think he is
Cuz wyrms are dragons

[tropic swan]

Everything about them screamed dogs to me

But the crocodile idea is cool to me

[smoky bridge]

Crocodog

[exotic dome]

what would lace do during the siege of constantinople

[queen acorn]

muckroaches arent animals theyre the spawn of hell

[azure patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-owner-of-the-post-was-found-alive-gif-4351192969725177372

[tropic swan]

Maybe they're cerberus?

[earnest drift]

maggots that become pirhanas that grow into dog/crocodile mixes that become hot air balloons

that’s a muckroach

[queen acorn]

true true

[azure patrol]

Can Unn and Radiance reproduce sexually?

[earnest drift]

are there any multi-headed beings in this verse

[raw pawn]

lmao why did it kill itself

[smoky bridge]

Are muckrosches related to the maggots???

[orchid locust]

which siege of constantinople

[earnest drift]

the muckmaggots grow into muckroaches

[tropic swan]

I'd have to think about that

[smoky bridge]

Oh. I skipped a step

[queen acorn]

every day i shit on my phone

[smoky bridge]

I forgot. Yeah I remember.

[tropic swan]

That's a little concerning..

[smoky bridge]

Thanks. My bad. I am stupid.

[queen acorn]

hi

[smoky bridge]

Technically the big ass muchrosches are like. Dragons. Cause they are flying crocodiles.

[queen acorn]

like a dragon?

[exotic dome]

1453

[tropic swan]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-2-spider-man-miles-miles-morales-peter-parker-gif-4911439267926175499

[smoky bridge]

Do muckrosches drown in water?

Is there a way to dunk a roach somewhere in the game or are they always separated from it?

[queen acorn]

i

ion think you can anywhere

[smoky bridge]

Shame.

[smoky bridge]

They probably just didn't feel like giving them a swimming animation.

[safe venture]

good question

[tidal glade]

SEA OF SORROW TOMORROW TRUST 🙏🏻

[still osprey]

I think the only enemies that can swim are Verdanirs and Escalions

[safe venture]

yesterday trust

[tropic swan]

Maybe with up slash shenanigans you could get one into the water in that one long room

[orchid locust]

hornet would be ottoman and lace would be byzantine

[raw pawn]

ISTG I DON'T WANT POLLEN HEART

[azure patrol]

Multibinder my beloved

[queen acorn]

truth nuke

[tropic swan]

I hate the multibinder actually..

[queen acorn]

i

ass take but you got a temmie pfp

[smoky bridge]

It's dogshit on beast.

[queen acorn]

i mean

[tropic swan]

Does that make it better or worse?

[queen acorn]

quicksling is dogshit on shaman

its not unique

[queen acorn]

yes

[azure patrol]

It is absolutely goated in wanderer because you always have a safe window for healing midarir

[smoky bridge]

I'm just saying.

There are situations where it sucks.

[tropic swan]

The beast crest doesn't have a blue slot so I think it's a non issue

[smoky bridge]

You get a vesticrest slot

[tropic swan]

I see
I don't like how slow it makes me feel

[queen acorn]

but theres also

witch

[wind gate]

Blue tools are the best tools in da game

[spark anchor]

It’s so good for maggots

[queen acorn]

also muckmaggoted

[tropic swan]

I'm aware, but my point is the beast crest isn't designed with blue tools in mind

[orchid locust]

shaman crest is designed with red tools in mind ✅ ✅

[tropic swan]

I agree, but I'd rather just not fall in

I don't like playing the game slowly

[azure patrol]

Plasmium phial

[queen acorn]

every red tool but flintslate sucks

[azure patrol]

Something something plasmium phial

[tropic swan]

Shakrams are my guilty pleasure

[exotic dome]

sorrow of sea tomorrow

[queen acorn]

i

[smoky bridge]

You still get one and it still has some fun interactions.

[humble tendon]

cannot wait for the DLC

[wind gate]

I only used shaman crest for the flea games

[still osprey]

Bait used to be believable

[queen acorn]

poshanka

[tropic swan]

Which one is your favorite?

[smoky bridge]

Mechanically or playstyle wise.

[queen acorn]

it was satirical but you cared enough to respond :P

[tropic swan]

Both, I suppose

[still osprey]

I'm really split on whether Multibinder or Fractured Mask is better

[smoky bridge]

Mechanically, I really like the Idea of claw Mirrors on beast, to heal aggressively and get even more damage in, utilising the faster bind.

[queen acorn]

fractured more versitile

[still osprey]

Like there's an argument to be made for either of them

[subtle lynx]

Multbinder 100%

[queen acorn]

fractured better overall tho

[tropic swan]

Mask, no contest for me

[azure patrol]

Fractured mask is overrated

[smoky bridge]

But playstyle wise I usually just stick to emergency bind for bosses that hide often, or circlet.

[queen acorn]

NO hours on steel soul

[subtle lynx]

It's good for early game and that's it

[azure patrol]

You always have safe spot to heal midair

[tropic swan]

The mask is always helpful whereas i always feel like the multibind is an active hinderance to have on

[queen acorn]

thats

[smoky bridge]

Works like two masks on 2x dmg enemies if you have an odd number.

[still osprey]

The thing is that Fractured Mask can tank literally everything

[queen acorn]

just wrong

[subtle lynx]

But I don't get it besides my first playthrough since you can get it for free on act 3

[queen acorn]

thats plain wrong

[still osprey]

Even attacks that deal 1+1+1 damage, it just tanks it and saves you

[subtle lynx]

When I'm already using my fav build

[queen acorn]

yep

[still osprey]

It's basically an extra life and it's really valuable

[smoky bridge]

The mask is just amazing.

[subtle lynx]

And multbinder is overall more masks in the long run

[queen acorn]

multibinder is good on like 1 build

[smoky bridge]

It's silksong lizard tail.

[tropic swan]

I don't think this is argument

[subtle lynx]

It's as simple as that

[queen acorn]

and like its more valuable than mask on that one build

[azure patrol]

Literally 2-3 plasmium phials

[queen acorn]

but other than that its js an ok tool

[tropic swan]

Yes, but the fact that it leaves you wide open for longer is horrible

[subtle lynx]

Injector band exists

[still osprey]

They cost shell shards and need to be refilled if gou run out tho

[queen acorn]

2 blue tools to make healing safe

it costs 2 blue tools to make multibinder viable

[tropic swan]

That's why i think injector band is a far far better tool
But i would never waste two slots on the both of them

[queen acorn]

im not wasting my valuable blues for safe healing

[humble tendon]

hello hello can i intrest anyone in some free plasmium? good quality! excellent for your health! no side effects (i am not responsible for any side effects)

[subtle lynx]

No, 1 tool to make healing safe, the other tool gives you like 5 masks in a tough boss fight

[queen acorn]

dude

i can PROMISE you one mask isnt the difference between life and death

[subtle lynx]

Did you read what I wrote

[still osprey]

Both tools are great I'm just trying to figure out which one I'd put in my top 5 over the other

[queen acorn]

nope

[queen acorn]

fractured is js better overall

[tropic swan]

It can be sometimes, but I don't think that tradeoff vs any other blue tool is worth it

[subtle lynx]

Multbinder is not 1 mask, it's like 5 or even more

[queen acorn]

mhm

[queen acorn]

no?

[tropic swan]

Mask is at least 2 tiers above multibinder

[subtle lynx]

Yes?

[queen acorn]

and besides if your taking so much damage that multibinder is actually valuable

[subtle lynx]

You heal multiple times

[queen acorn]

then i think you have bigger issues

[subtle lynx]

Not only once

[tropic swan]

It heals 4 mask in total instead of the usual 3, I don't understand what you mean?

[subtle lynx]

I have bigger issues while beating every boss first try thanks to multbinder + injector?

I don't think so

[still osprey]

Multibinder also clears muckmaggots while also healing 2 masks which is really good

[smoky bridge]

... Gratitude works with broken core. Fuck me...

[queen acorn]

wasted 2 blues on that

i could use circlet and destroy the boss before it HITS me

[subtle lynx]

Omg I'm so sad I wasted 2 blues on beating every boss first try

[queen acorn]

your playing safesong

[subtle lynx]

I don't like to abuse exploits

[queen acorn]

ddude

[tropic swan]

You're so cool

[queen acorn]

is this satire

[tropic swan]

I wish i knew the circlet tech but I'm bad

No i really meant it, sorry

[still osprey]

There is no tech you literally just press jump

[queen acorn]

oh im not good at it either

but i know it exists

[still osprey]

It's the best blue tool in the game there isn't much competition

[tropic swan]

The quick kill combos I mean

[queen acorn]

and id rather be doing that over safesong

[smoky bridge]

I mean. I also pick mask over multibinder cause I play Beats, maybe the math works out different.

[tropic swan]

Safesong is extremely boring to me, but i understand there's people who like playing the game like that and I can't be mad at people enjoying my favorite game

[still osprey]

28 damage for pressing the jump button next to an enemy is actually just stupid

[queen acorn]

i get it but

[still osprey]

How is this a real tool

[smoky bridge]

I just think a lot of the time you are not actually... Healing all 4 masks.

[subtle lynx]

Idk how multbinder works in other crests

[queen acorn]

8 something years of development and 20 dollars to play hide in a corner and heal

[smoky bridge]

You very often are healing 3, or 2.

[subtle lynx]

I stick to hunter

[still osprey]

Multibinder also synergizes extremely well with Witch

[smoky bridge]

Beast has counter synergy with multibinder

[queen acorn]

only reason its viable

[tropic swan]

I don't understand it, but it's not my place to complain
And at the end of the day. it doesn't affect me

[smoky bridge]

You still heal 4 max, but you have to hit the enemy 4 times, and it does not extend fury timer.

[queen acorn]

cz multibinder is much more valuable in SOME builds than mask

[queen acorn]

true

[still osprey]

Nah there's a number of reasons, it's just best on witch

[subtle lynx]

What is bro talking about

[tropic swan]

That's the one thing I'll give multibinder, it's great for that

[smoky bridge]

And you aren't binding to heal, ever. You're binding to increase your damage.

[queen acorn]

theres like 2 but yeah

[still osprey]

Are we just forgetting multibinder lets you heal when maggoted

[smoky bridge]

80% time I bind when I haven't even been hit yet.

[queen acorn]

thats such a niche case dude

[smoky bridge]

... Wreath.

[subtle lynx]

As a multbinder user, I don't

[queen acorn]

its like 3 areas where thats a theat

[still osprey]

There's maggot water in 4 areas

[smoky bridge]

Just wreath.

[queen acorn]

and i can js use purity

[subtle lynx]

You don't need a wreath with multbinder

[tropic swan]

Optimally, you just wouldn't get maggoted
And there's a tool for that doesn't also make your heal worse

[smoky bridge]

Wreath is better. It protects you entirely, and you heal 3 masks.

[still osprey]

You can get multibinder way earlier than wreath

[subtle lynx]

Also this

[queen acorn]

multibinder is mostly viable with witch alone

[still osprey]

Obviously if you want to make the argument, both are useless if you just don't fall in

[queen acorn]

and in a witch build it is better than mask

[cerulean sable]

What if you can upgrade mask and that for every 3 binds it will repair 1 use on the go

[smoky bridge]

It makes your heal slower and I detest it.

[queen acorn]

this would be bad if you didnt get half the heal anyway

if im interrupted im still egtting 2 masks

[smoky bridge]

I'm too used to healing directly in there.

[smoky bridge]

No, cause you're getting smacked for damage.

[tropic swan]

It's an improvement, but it just feels horrible to have on

[queen acorn]

if your healing cant get off one use of binder

[tropic swan]

It's like having a ball and chain on your leg

[queen acorn]

true

[still osprey]

I mean, when you get better at the game, optimally you want to avoid healing in general, so even great tools like injector band start to fall off

[queen acorn]

also mask does nothing to actively diminish you

it only provides help

[smoky bridge]

Injector is decent on Beast, but almost overkill.

[subtle lynx]

Yeah but unless you're beating bosses first try or not dying overall, injector + multbinder let's you not die never

[smoky bridge]

I tend to go for Snitch pick, Circlet, reserve bind, spool extender, or claw Mirrors more often.

[still osprey]

I'd rather use multibinder than injector band on Beast

[tropic swan]

I agree with that, but i think injector band is a better tool for players who are struggling because it lets them be more lax about when they heal whereas the multibind forces you to be even more careful about when and where you heal

[smoky bridge]

It's literally counter productive but ok.

[still osprey]

Beast already has a faster bind

[queen acorn]

multibinder isnt even good if your new half the time your still getting hit and healing 2 masks

[smoky bridge]

It makes you bind slowee and you are binding all the time

[smoky bridge]

I did mention it's overkill.

[queen acorn]

multibind has such little place in early and late game its only good fro like 3 builds

[tropic swan]

What does multi bind do on beast?

[queen acorn]

1 extra mask you can heal

[tropic swan]

Oh
That honestly sounds pretty good for tank builds

[smoky bridge]

No it's horrible actually.

[queen acorn]

one blue slot for beast tho

its not worth wasting it on multi

[tropic swan]

Also true

[smoky bridge]

It does not extend the fury timer, it extend the bind time, so you have to be more safe about healing.

[queen acorn]

is the bind time for beast not short anyway

[tropic swan]

Oh
Nevermind, that sounds horrible

How much does it extend the bind time by?

[smoky bridge]

It's not long but also why. For one mask? That I have to hit the enemy to gain anyways?

[queen acorn]

also this proves the multibinder point of how non viable it is half the time

[still osprey]

Like, 1 second I believe?

[queen acorn]

like were trying our hardest to find uses for it

[smoky bridge]

1 second is too bad.

[queen acorn]

while mask is js good on any build

[tropic swan]

1 whole second, that's abhorrent, jesus christ

[smoky bridge]

No it has uses a lot.

It's not 1 second..

[queen acorn]

a LOT?

[tropic swan]

i don't even think the normal heal lasts that long

[subtle lynx]

With Multibinder equipped, Binding consists of 2 consecutive Binding animations, each lasting 0.8 seconds, with each part healing 2 Masks. This heals 4 total Masks compared to the usual 3, but takes ~40% longer to complete the Bind.

[queen acorn]

witch MAYBE beast and nothing else i can think of

[tropic swan]

I understand that, i meant specifically for the beast crest

[tropic swan]

I cannot stand spending more than a second to heal in a game this fast paced

[subtle lynx]

Yeah, healing with injector band is even faster than regular healing and you can tell

[queen acorn]

this is the ONLY reason i willingly use injector band on every build

ion care how wasteful it is i cannot stand binding without band

[smoky bridge]

It's good for architect, cause you better your silk economy, so you have more to reload your tools, it's good on witch, cause you get to attack again. (Don't mix with injectors, it eats the second attack)

[tropic swan]

I'm not at that level, but i just can't with the multibind
Even shaman bind tests my patience

[smoky bridge]

It also just is really good for platforming.

Because again, better silk econ.

[queen acorn]

wym

[queen acorn]

true

[subtle lynx]

There's no hard platforming in this game besides the cradle

[queen acorn]

i

[still osprey]

On my latest playthrough I intentionally avoided injector band because I was trying to improve at the game and not be over reliant on binding with iband

[tropic swan]

You use less silk to heal in total, which means more to reload

[smoky bridge]

You get more health from the silk you use, so you generally have more silk for reloading.

[queen acorn]

dude what act are you in

[subtle lynx]

???

[smoky bridge]

The cradle???

[queen acorn]

ah

[subtle lynx]

Yeah?

[smoky bridge]

The cradle isn't even hard??

[queen acorn]

ah

also the cradle is NOT hard

[smoky bridge]

What??

[tropic swan]

I think they mean the surface area

[subtle lynx]

???

[still osprey]

The game doesn't have hard platforming in general

[subtle lynx]

Yeah