sk-discussion

[fervent wharf]

also what the hell is Voltvessels Bola

[graceful cairn]

youre crazy bro

[bitter briar]

Crazy speedrun tech

[brave geyser]

Why do i always see sawtooth circlet here

[graceful oyster]

Nah nah those tool pogos are too much for Skong players, noobs will find that and skip 20 minutes of gameplay, take that crap OUT

[bitter briar]

I thought they nerfed volt pogos

Or just removed them

[still osprey]

they removed them, you need to either downpatch or use mods to do them

[graceful oyster]

Yes, TC removed tool pogos because they're ASS at meta game design

[strange knot]

The last pogo is impossible for me, rest is pretty ok tho

I never get that last pogo first try

[still osprey]

the volt pogos in cogcore are genuinely impossible difficulty and anyone who says they can do them are lying and cheating

[strange knot]

Statue skip is harder though

Is it impossible++

[still osprey]

statue skip is vibes based

[brave geyser]

I just know you will have a recording doing it 33x in a row tomorrow

[strange knot]

Btw just completed 8b in Celeste, genuinely hated every second of it

[brave geyser]

For a coven seventy-eighter like you that's deserved

[icy crow]

Joe

[still osprey]

8B is genuinely the worst vanilla celeste chapter

[graceful cairn]

as we all do

[still osprey]

like it's not even close lol

[strange knot]

Do those things mean 7 and 8? I genuinely never checked what they mean

[lusty grove]

she was stuck lol

[brave geyser]

They mean seven and eight respectively yes

[brave geyser]

I love killing hornet midair

[jaunty raptor]

[strange knot]

What should I do now, chapter 9 or c sides?

[fervent wharf]

Where are all the memory orbs

[still osprey]

I'd recomment C-Sides first

they're 3 rooms long each and will get you prepared for FW

[light swan]

c sides

[strange knot]

Ok

[magic night]

about how many tries did it take u for ||last judge|| vs the ||bird gauntlet||

[strange knot]

I did first two c sides a while ago so it shouldn’t be that hard

[still osprey]

3C is ass 7C is really hard and the rest are fine

[hardy tangle]

10G was pretty good

i think 9F was borng

[strange knot]

First two rooms of 7c are easy af and than there’s 3rd room

[rose forge]

WHAT are yall saying

[still osprey]

7C-3 is one of the few Advanced difficulty rooms in the game

[rocky geode]

"Fixed Last Judge's death explosion doing 3 damage (now 2)."
BOOOOO

[graceful cairn]

7C is hell bro 💔

[still osprey]

along with like, Comb room in farewell and maybe farewell final and moonberry

[rocky geode]

silksong should be a difficult game

[rose forge]

SON just tell me

[edgy patio]

just lost the steal soul run, im never doing this again and i just broke alot of stuff.

[rose forge]

I stole your soul, run

[rocky geode]

not only did they make environmental damage do less, now this?

people whine too much, silksong was designed to be difficult

[still osprey]

double damage hazards were ass I'm glad that got changed

[edgy patio]

i died to a fucking spider while trying to get my items when i was in the slab

[fervent wharf]

HELP\

[still osprey]

last judge's explosion should've stayed at 3 tho yea

[rose forge]

whats 7C??

[still osprey]

Celeste Chapter 7 C-Side

[edgy patio]

fuck this shitty game, and fuck the perma death mode. im out, fuck this shit.

[hardy tangle]

last judge explosion should insta kill you no matter what

[rose forge]

OH k

[graceful cairn]

perma death is lowkey a bad mechanic

[rocky geode]

genuinely, if you're stupid to stand inside a smoking bomb then you deserve to restart

[strange knot]

Agree

[rose forge]

optional btw

[hardy tangle]

i tanked it

[graceful cairn]

like ideally you wont even experience the effects of the mode so like whats even the point

[strange knot]

Achievements

[hardy tangle]

is that tuff

[rocky geode]

that's different, i'm saying if you somehow didn't notice

[graceful cairn]

not for me I'm a completionist

[rose forge]

also optional

[hardy tangle]

its like a natural thing to take your hands off your controller/keyboard when you seemingly defeat a boss

[rocky geode]

it's smoking in the foreground

it does the same thing that the moss exploders do in HK

[crisp pier]

A true knight is never scared to lay down their weapon

[hardy tangle]

a scared knight is always holding their weapon

[rocky geode]

a vigilant knight is always at the ready

[hardy tangle]

nobody else explodes like that in silksong before act 2

[rocky geode]

but it smokes the same waythat the rocks do in Far Fields

[hardy tangle]

who is connecting that shit in their head

[rocky geode]

"SMOKING THING BAD!!!!!!!" -> runs away

[graceful cairn]

me

[hardy tangle]

what if last judge just collapses

[edgy patio]

YES NEWS YES YES YES YES NEWSS

[rocky geode]

wdym

[hardy tangle]

ok big nerd

[edgy patio]

YESSSSSSSS

[hardy tangle]

smokes come out and she just collapses

[graceful cairn]

last judge is such a peak boss anyway refighting it is a gift

[hardy tangle]

doesnt explode just breaks

[rocky geode]

better safe than sorry

[graceful cairn]

then the corpse starts sparking

[inland sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393659720094449834/1437072404957630575/togif.gif

[hardy tangle]

if it started sparking sure id say run away

[graceful cairn]

I'm always on edge after beating a boss especially with the amount of fakeout deaths in sk

[rocky geode]

doesn't it spark, shake, and spew fire before exploding?

[strange knot]

Yay 1c!

[hardy tangle]

theres uhhh widow, first sinner and uhh

[graceful cairn]

or (mio spoilers) ||after beating anra you have to fight halyn||

[hardy tangle]

i only remember smoke maybe it did

[balmy talon]

[light swan]

the only one unfortunately

[rocky geode]

regardless, its body has the same pre-explosion effect as its attacks

[hardy tangle]

why does lj even explode its not even a clanker

[rocky geode]

in hollow knight there's Soul Master

[rocky geode]

it has control over fire

[graceful cairn]

pretty much

[hardy tangle]

well clearly it doesnt if it fucking explodes

[rocky geode]

its dead

[fervent wharf]

how many memory orbs are their

[fervent wharf]

re

[rocky geode]

its majin vegeta

[hardy tangle]

they said silksong genuinely theres only widow and fs

[stable pilot]

Last judge

[hardy tangle]

she dies

[stable pilot]

Grandmother silk

Lost lace

[rocky geode]

they said SK that could have been a typo for HK like the franchise

[graceful cairn]

would you not explode to kill your opponent as youre already dying anyway

[hardy tangle]

happens really early so nobody falling for it

[stable pilot]

My cousin did

[strange knot]

I did

[rocky geode]

i mean the hollow knight is pretty easy

[hardy tangle]

your cousins a stupid

[stable pilot]

And you are a rude person

Be better

[hardy tangle]

stupid is not a strong word bro 🥀

if i was trying to be rude id say dumbass

[rocky geode]

"cousins" "a stupid" 🥀

[hardy tangle]

to further show how im NOT being serious

[rocky geode]

its just funny looking

[hardy tangle]

maybe i shouldve used something more obvious like dumdum

[stable pilot]

Just say dumbass

It's a weaker insult

[earnest drift]

that’s stronger

[hardy tangle]

"be better"
"just be rude"
ok bro

[stable pilot]

That's weaker

[stable pilot]

Be less rude

[minor sparrow]

i mean if you're gonna die anyways, might as well kamikaze ig

[earnest drift]

I hate Star Wars

[strange knot]

I don’t hate it, but it’s overrated

[hardy tangle]

stupid is not allat bro

[graceful cairn]

no bro 😭

[stable pilot]

I call him that all the time

[hardy tangle]

boys go to jupiter to get more stupiter!

[graceful oyster]

Guys go to Venus to get more smarter

[void moat]

girls go to jupiter to get more stupider

[strange knot]

Guys go to earth to be the same

[stable pilot]

Guys go to earth to die because the world is ending

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-matthew-mcconaughey-joseph-cooper-interstellar-embrace-gif-18750759

[rocky geode]

people go to the Last Judge boss fight and fall for the obvious explosion

[graceful oyster]

Guys go to space because their world is ending

[balmy pumice]

Guys go to hollownest cuz the world has already ended

[stable pilot]

Guys stay on earth to recover it

[minor sparrow]

guys stay on earth because there's noodles there

[balmy pumice]

Girls go to pharloom to try and stop the world from ending

[earnest drift]

guys stay in earth to end it

[thin charm]

i had put my laptop down okay

[balmy pumice]

Dudes just embrace the end of the world

[craggy swallow]

guys i need help T^T

[minor sparrow]

sun's already got that one, I'm not kill stealing

[earnest drift]

what is happening here

is lace having the knight carry her somewhere

[stable pilot]

Cats go to mars because they want to

[minor sparrow]

i think so yeah

[sharp wharf]

Gang what

[earnest drift]

by u/Hungry_Preference669

the reddit post says “Welp, that fight didn't go to plan.” so does that mean lace beat the knight in a fight

[edgy patio]

silksong dlc prediction
APRIL 15th - MAY 31st

[stable pilot]

It was a chess match

[earnest drift]

silksong dlc prediction: it will release in the sea

[stable pilot]

The knight is dumb

[slim jetty]

She would do that

[edgy patio]

hope fully when this becomes past me i get it on the dot.

[normal bramble]

Silksong dlc prediction : it will release

[sharp wharf]

Maybe its commenting on how small the knight actually is

[earnest drift]

but if lace beat the knight why is she saying “a proper lady’s introduction shouldn’t be kept waiting”

[restive ibex]

Why are you wrong about EVERYTHING

I don't believe it

[stable pilot]

Lace is marrying herself here

[earnest drift]

it makes most sense if the knight is carrying lace to meet someone

[sharp wharf]

Maybe hornet

[slim jetty]

Although the knight would beat lace

100% in reality

[sharp wharf]

True

[earnest drift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnightArt/comments/1rvjn93/she_is_not_amused_in_the_slightest/

[snow pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1451759457360023722/makesweet-u0ymrz.gif

[hardy tangle]

why does she have eyelids thats making me uncomfortable

[snow pebble]

I love twisted bud

[earnest drift]

actually the knight is scared of lace

[snow pebble]

I think Sherma would beat Lace

[honest cosmos]

so you guys know what the egg of flealia does right

[snow pebble]

mhm

[honest cosmos]

and how it only works at full health

[snow pebble]

yes

[unkempt steeple]

toby and team cherry both announcing their projects are coming soon....

[honest cosmos]

what if it made binding cost less too

[normal bramble]

Lace would end up singing with Sherma

[honest cosmos]

haha

[unkempt steeple]

sea of sorrow and chapter 5 together in the next nintendo direct again?

[snow pebble]

it does

[honest cosmos]

really bro

[snow pebble]

no

[normal bramble]

I needa get the last 2 fleas im missing bleh

[honest cosmos]

that's so useless

[stable pilot]

Why would it he

[snow pebble]

do you have the flea maps

[unkempt steeple]

offensive binding ig

[normal bramble]

One of them is in whispering vaults above the hole to bile water (because of course)

The other is in wisp thicket

[unkempt steeple]

with beast and witch, or like, claw mirror, if you use that without witch

[honest cosmos]

[snow pebble]

it should make binding cost less just for me because I love witch crest

[normal bramble]

Ya

Thankfully

[snow pebble]

flea maps alone probably took like 20 hours off my first 100% playthrough

[normal bramble]

Honestly I found most of them naturally

[unkempt steeple]

claw mirror really feels like a tool only for witch, also it's like volt filement with shaman, why wouldn't you use claw mirror on witch

[normal bramble]

By the time I got map I already only had 5 left

[snow pebble]

wow

[hardy tangle]

i hate all pogo except hunter

[snow pebble]

false advertising

[hardy tangle]

i hate everything

[restive ibex]

It's great for witch but still good for non-witch

[snow pebble]

you’re not the only joni fan ever

[normal bramble]

Brought all her maps just to realize I wasn’t missing any of the fleas in like 3 of them 😔

[snow pebble]

the only time I used the claw mirrors off of witch crest was when I first got them

[lean pendant]

Silksong tomorrow

[glass mortar]

i need tips ganag lost lace just too hard for me

[snow pebble]

I beg to differ, as with witch you’re meant to be going for riskier heals in the middle of combat, but with pretty much any other crest you want to stay safe

[restive ibex]

Having tools that are better supported in some crests than others isn't a bad thing

[unkempt steeple]

I think it feels rather underwhelming as an offensive binding tool, I think that one pale court charm does a better job

[lean pendant]

Sea of Sorrow tomorrow

[snow pebble]

did you try hitting her a lot of times with your needle?

[normal bramble]

I would agree however trobbio gives me it so

[rocky jolt]

bro comparing modded charms to regular charms

[glass mortar]

sadly no keel ]:

[normal bramble]

Automatically top 1 item with no contest

[glass mortar]

she a tank

[unkempt steeple]

I love trobbio too I wish I could use his tool on every crest without it being a waste of a slot...

[snow pebble]

you should do wanderer’s+sawcirclet+parry

it’s really safe and still has big damage

[unkempt steeple]

also it just does what witch already binding does, an eoe damage area around you after you finish binding

[restive ibex]

Naw, you heal in their face with Beast if you are being aggressive, and Shaman doesn't have the luxury of so many positions to heal from, so it can benefit the inherently riskier bind.

On top of that, if you are binding during a boss stagger it's not uncommon to be in the boss's face

[normal bramble]

DLC will give us a huge claw mirror upscale trust 🙏

[glass mortar]

not safe dmg yes so ima try it tmr i already lost my sanity for today

[mild vine]

i used shaman with weave light and spammed parry

[glass mortar]

ah yes go up wall and double jump

[unkempt steeple]

true

[glass mortar]

ez heal and way to get free silk

[rocky jolt]

out-lace her

[mild vine]

yes

[unkempt steeple]

it really just ends up feeling like a witch bind buff than a unique tool

[glass mortar]

ig i need to kidnap my grand mom or mom

[snow pebble]

Yeah, but for those two examples you’d be MUCH better off with different charms, and most of the bosses will move around either into you or out of the hitbox of the explosion

[normal bramble]

Woah

[light swan]

the glaze will never stop

[snow pebble]

what are charms called in Silksong again

[normal bramble]

Im missing 9 blue items

Somehow

I’m only missing 2 red and 2 yellow

Well I also haven’t brought theif’s mark and Multibinder but

[snow pebble]

w tech

[normal bramble]

That’s still a whole 7…

[glass mortar]

tools

i think

[snow pebble]

yes thank you

[glass mortar]

yeah

its tools

i forgot i lmao

[normal bramble]

Ok for red ik im missing the one silk rifle

[shadow ridge]

i hate this place

[normal bramble]

Which I’m 99% sure is in bilewater

[subtle lynx]

I finally did it

[glass mortar]

yes

[normal bramble]

Soooo time to go there (and ig go also get wreath of purity from ducts)

[subtle lynx]

Every silksong trophy

(+ mementos)

[glass mortar]

congrats

[subtle lynx]

The only thing left for me to do is steel soul (I won't be doing that)

[normal bramble]

Ooo cool

[glass mortar]

yeah when i 100% silksong [87% rn] and 112% hk [109% rn] ima do steel soul

[normal bramble]

I always forget about the bell beast song Jesus I was about to run all the way to sinners road 😭

[glass mortar]

ass jim is missing u

anyways wtf did i js say nvm

[normal bramble]

Courier rashier practice has done permanent damage to my pathfinding from bellhart

[subtle lynx]

I think HK has a steel soul achievement

[glass mortar]

yes

[glass mortar]

harder first

[earnest drift]

there’s a reason the knight waited until lace was defeated before stepping in

[subtle lynx]

You went through the phantom path for that?

[normal bramble]

Yup

[subtle lynx]

Why

[normal bramble]

The mist disappears after you do phantom

[subtle lynx]

Yes ik

[stable pilot]

It's because it wanted his sister to suffer a little

[normal bramble]

So the run back is easy also I couldn’t do the grand gate runback

[subtle lynx]

There's so much shit going on there

[glass mortar]

we need the hornet equivilent of the knight as a boss

[normal bramble]

Eh

[glass mortar]

we have hornet twice a a boss why not the knight

[normal bramble]

With double jump and crawline so much of it is skippable

[subtle lynx]

The only annoying section in the last judge path is the citadel

But you'll always do the citadel

[glass mortar]

im try my last resort

[lavish apex]

knight/shadelord dlc boss would be peak i don't care if it wouldn't really fit with the story

[glass mortar]

architects plasmium

[normal bramble]

Oh I don’t have long claw either

[lavish apex]

i love it when sequels make you fight a previous protagonist

[normal bramble]

That’s in bilewater as well

[glass mortar]

lost lace? shade lord

[earnest drift]

lost lace is the shade lord

[subtle lynx]

It's on putrified ducts

[normal bramble]

Oh

Welp I needa go there anyways ig

[glass mortar]

no rly if i renember she has been consumed by the void

[earnest drift]

and she became the true shade lord

[glass mortar]

not really since we defeat her

[lusty grove]

the Void is actually the Lace Lord

[glass mortar]

he void lord is a lace

[earnest drift]

because void isn’t as strong as hornet

[glass mortar]

were talking abt lace, no?

[fallow sorrel]

Lays

[glass mortar]

lace is only covered with void due to silk

[fervent wharf]

Guys whats the point of the key in Whiteward

[glass mortar]

silk heart

[earnest drift]

lace is the ruler that the void needs

[glass mortar]

nah

[lusty grove]

it opens the gates to Purgatory

[glass mortar]

and hell

[lusty grove]

Lace is being controlled by the Void, not the other way around

[earnest drift]

she will lead the void to victory to consume many kingdoms

[earnest drift]

the void chose her

[glass mortar]

true hse is still lace since her silk is protecting her

[lusty grove]

and the Void does not have a will of its own, it does not want a ruler

[lusty grove]

she threw herself at the Void

[glass mortar]

kinda stupid idk why

well gms made a cacoon to save lace right?

[earnest drift]

because she hates her life and wants to die

[glass mortar]

why tho? thats un lays like

[earnest drift]

lace hating herself is part of her character

[lusty grove]

she hates that she exists

[glass mortar]

ahhh

[earnest drift]

she sees herself as an imitation of life

[lusty grove]

she hates her mother for creating her

[earnest drift]

and she hates herself for not being capable of doing the one thing she was made to do

[fallen citrus]

hop into vc folk

[lusty grove]

and she hates Hornet for being GMS's favorite

[glass mortar]

i thought it was phanom

phantom

[lusty grove]

Phantom was thrown into a hellscape of doom and maggots

[glass mortar]

fair enough

[lusty grove]

GMS has no love for Phantom

[earnest drift]

not favourite just target

[glass mortar]

dang i feel bad for her

[lusty grove]

them*

[earnest drift]

she’s jealous that Hornet’s existence will replace lace’s job

so she tries to kill hornet

[still osprey]

gms is transphobic and hates nonbinary people that's why she discarded Phantom

[earnest drift]

some suggest that lace wants to capture hornet so that she’s the one to bring hornet to gms, but I doubt that, what do you guys think

[fervent wharf]

Guys whats the Journal entry next to the servitor boran

[still osprey]

I think Lace just wants to kill Hornet to rebel against GMS

[still osprey]

She doesn't want them meeting

[unkempt steeple]

What's silklight

[lusty grove]

light made from Silk

[glass mortar]

well she did finish off gms for hornet during the start of act 3

[last pebble]

Came here to thank all the silk singers who let me know there's a sister splinter skip

[lusty grove]

the thing in the Weavelight

[earnest drift]

yeah I think so as well

[glass mortar]

i love talking abt silksong insted of sleeping for school

[still osprey]

I love silksong

[lusty grove]

me too

[still osprey]

What a great game, can't believe Sea of Sorrow is releasing tomorrow

[glass mortar]

did she know hornret want to stop the haunting?

[ruby dune]

It is???

[glass mortar]

IT IS?

[graceful cairn]

mhm

[graceful oyster]

You guys are stupid

[fervent wharf]

yo whats the journal entry thats next to the servitor boran\

[graceful cairn]

sea of sorrow tomorrow chat

[graceful oyster]

Sea of Sorrow tomorrow

[glass mortar]

idk

[glass mortar]

gotta check ts

[subtle lynx]

So after 88 hours, these are all my playthroughs

[graceful cairn]

son...

[last pebble]

Wait about the mobile players

[last pebble]

Ah yes
El spanish

[still osprey]

You're all so gullible

[fervent wharf]

yo whats the journal entry thats next to the servitor boran

[graceful cairn]

cant check rn sorry

[earnest drift]

even if lace brought hornet to grand mother silk, it would prove how the weaver descendants are more important to her than lace

[glass mortar]

look what i found lol

[last pebble]

What else do i get in spell wood

Smellwood

She'll wood

[fervent wharf]

LACE PLEASE ANSWER THIS

[last pebble]

I'll just look it up

[earnest drift]

is it 2?

[glass mortar]

shell wood

[fervent wharf]

yo whats the journal entry thats next to the servitor boran

[last pebble]

Yes what do you get there

[glass mortar]

looki up

[glass mortar]

cling grip

[last pebble]

And??

[earnest drift]

gavortus subliminous rangor

[glass mortar]

uhhhh

[fervent wharf]

Exuse me its called Shellhart

[glass mortar]

bellwood

[graceful cairn]

shellshit

[fervent wharf]

Finnaly you get it

[last pebble]

So i only get cling grip?

[glass mortar]

not fully sure

[last pebble]

I found long pin there

[graceful cairn]

shellwood is a fucking useless area

[last pebble]

Its range is sad

[glass mortar]

shell shock

[glass mortar]

can pierce

[last pebble]

Huh

Wdym by Pierce

[glass mortar]

go through multible enemies

[last pebble]

Just wish it worked like straight pin

[glass mortar]

too op then

[glass mortar]

not op bur just good

[fervent wharf]

are you for real

[last pebble]

Alright

Im not using it tho
Spiky trap is better

[glass mortar]

th is silk trap

[exotic cedar]

Sea of tomorrow sorrow

[earnest drift]

no

[glass mortar]

bruh lemme get 13 more % dang im cooked

[graceful cairn]

sea of sorrow tomorrow

[drifting topaz]

Do you guys think Sea of Sorrow will add any new endings?

[glass mortar]

ddo i sleep or more discussing

[gilded umbra]

Just let me die already bruh

I FUCKING hate school

[graceful cairn]

I guess we'll find out tomorrow

[glass mortar]

i hope it adds a new crest

[glass mortar]

like a liquid one

[graceful cairn]

thats like the bare minimum fr

[drifting topaz]

I think it will, cause of that thing in the trailer

[earnest drift]

the existence of curvesickle makes me think we'll get to upgrade many more red tools

[glass mortar]

yeah either a plasmium one simiar to getting that charm for having lke 20 blue in hk

[graceful cairn]

we got more upgraded blue tools than red tools

[still osprey]

I hope we get more tools that can transform like Voltvessels

[graceful cairn]

maybe we'll get MORE upgraded blue tools fr

[still osprey]

It's a really neat concept that's not used a lot

[graceful cairn]

lowkey did not know that existed for the longest time

[glass mortar]

we need an upgraded long claw varient by making our attack speed faster but 50% shorter range

[earnest drift]

yes but curvesickle is so much more powerful than other red tools
so i feel like in the end other red tools will be upgraded to curvesickle's quality

[graceful cairn]

mayybe

[glass mortar]

sweaty players on wanderer would use this

[graceful cairn]

well thats just an evil long claw

[earnest drift]

voltvessels hopefully don't get upgraded

[still osprey]

Tool upgrades remind me lf that cut hk mechanic where you could "glorify" charms or whatever it was

[glass mortar]

we need to make the knight a boss

[earnest drift]

and cogflies, flintslate

would you use straight pin if they dealt 30 dmg each

[glass mortar]

how much they hold again?

[earnest drift]

24

[glass mortar]

HOLY

def then

thats720

720 dmg

[earnest drift]

still less than voltvessels bolas

[glass mortar]

dyam

i need to get them for ll

i need to sleep i think i am gonna get 6h of sleep if i dont

[still osprey]

Voltvessels aren't really good for lost lace tbh

[earnest drift]

voltvessels bolas are only good against lost lace if you spam them into a corner and bait her into going there

[still osprey]

She's way too fast

[glass mortar]

spam ping me if sea of sorrow dropped after school ima check discord

gn

[glass mortar]

saw a guy use em to kill her in 50 secs

[graceful cairn]

it aint gonna bro

trolling got too convincing 💔

[glacial kelp]

sea of sorrow next update just means the next one will take 7 years

[odd hull]

I hope so

[subtle lynx]

I've played too much silksong till the point whenever I read STH long I can see hornet using clawline over the text

It's like my eyes go immediately up to follow hornet after hitting a target

Crazy stuff

[coarse leaf]

where is pinstress fight

[exotic cedar]

After accepting her wish in bellhart, go to her home in blasted steps and then accept her challenge. Then go to mount fay

[polar stag]

Last update before Sea of Sorrow!

[graceful cairn]

pinterest

[rotund canyon]

Les goo

[tulip python]

Hello Everyone 👋

[polar stag]

i need to complete my replay of HK before it comes out.

I plan on doing a fresh playthrough

[lavish apex]

*major update, whatever that means

most of these patches aren't what i would call major

but that's what they said pr sure

[tulip python]

I hope you have fun!

[stable pilot]

Art homework done
Visual storytelling is so hard

[lavish apex]

oh sorry the word was significant

[rotund canyon]

Im prob gonna do P5 bindings before sea of sorrow

[polar stag]

I wonder how far into the game SoS will be

[lavish apex]

i'm betting it's gonna be locked behind faydown cloak at the least

[polar stag]

I am so excited. First dlc in Team Cherry's biggest game

[lavish apex]

unless that one door in bilewater isn't in the faydown part of the area

[tulip python]

Same

[polar stag]

didn't even have to wait a year before the first expansion

[rotund canyon]

Most of us are :]

[tulip python]

Hehe I know!

[rotund canyon]

Just a bit off tracked yesterday...

[rotund canyon]

Soured mah mood

[keen quest]

hi

[icy crow]

Is Sea of Sorrow actually releasing the next update or what lmao

[lavish apex]

i think next month or may seem like the most likely release times

[tulip python]

Team Cherry be cooking up absolute PEAK

[polar stag]

we always get major news like this shortly before release. not too long I bet

[icy crow]

You cannot just react me with a thumbs-up when I'm asking for a solid confirmation

[polar stag]

I bet we get a SoS trailer with gameplay really soon

[void moat]

yeah this is the last patch before sos

[icy crow]

Where is it mentioned? I'm genuinely lost

[lavish apex]

the one that just came out, that is

[lavish apex]

first paragraph in the link in this message #hk-announcements message

[void moat]

in the new blog post

[tight viper]

SoS is releasing on April 1

[void moat]

true

[icy crow]

Wonderful. Guess I'll keep around for a little more instead of leaving this hellhole then

[still osprey]

Man I can't wait for silksong to release it's gonna be so good

[polar stag]

it's actually an announcement they are unreleasing and delaying Silksong again to 2045.

[solid viper]

I have a question about mooshka
I always assumed the dot things were eyebrows or something and the lines were the eyes, but I fear I may be wrong

[void moat]

surely itll be announced this nintendo direct!

[void moat]

the lines are his mustache

[still osprey]

The dots are eyes and the lines are a mustache

[void moat]

the dots are the eues

[lavish apex]

the dots are the eyes and the lines are a mustache/whiskers/feelers

[rotund canyon]

It looks for cursed for me

[tight viper]

I have early access, it’s pretty cool, idk why they turned Hornet into that red Italian dude from that one classic platforming game

[rotund canyon]

I always thought his mustache was his eyes

[void moat]

mooshka mitri, as it were

[solid viper]

Just got a really fun idea for a drawing

[tight viper]

Hornet just keeps saying “Yahoo!” and “Mama Mia!”

It’s bizarre

[distant prawn]

im silking my song

[icy crow]

Ultra Seth 128

[distant prawn]

wtf is UInderworks

i thought i get Harpoon there

[void moat]

slavery

[polar stag]

as Mooshka, I can confirm the dots are eyes and lines are my specially trademarked Mooshtache.

[tight viper]

The land where dreams go to die

[distant prawn]

Is Sinners Road friendlier

[void moat]

you do, just keep progressing

[void moat]

lol no

[tight viper]

Not exactly

[brittle totem]

finding your kids was the biggest pain in the ass i have 2ever had to do

[rotund canyon]

"If its a road its called sinners roadddd"

[distant prawn]

at least its not hell like sinners road

[still osprey]

Do you think silksong will have you going through a poison swamp-like area I think it's quite an interesting concept

[polar stag]

why is your name "The Man"?

[brittle totem]

it's bilewater

[distant prawn]

Sinners Road had the worst runback in the game

[tight viper]

Why would they include that? Hornet can’t swim

[void moat]

nooo i think we’ll traverse a vast watery coral sea

[tight viper]

How would she swim

[still osprey]

That's a pretty cool name I hope it exists

[brittle totem]

🥀

[icy crow]

Silksong will have volcanic activities

[distant prawn]

Not even Last Judge which i gave up on for the sake of fighting Phantom had an ass runback

[brittle totem]

what act in the game are you at?

[odd hull]

muckmaggots don't do damage tho

[neat python]

I hate you

[icy crow]

Exhaust Organ has a bench btw

[still osprey]

Acts? It would be very interesting if silksong had acts

[distant prawn]

ik

Im alr in act 2

i thought whiteward was the deep area in Choral Chambers

wtf is cog core's left area gng i cant enter it

[smoky bridge]

I wonder how long Green Buge has been in the cage.

[graceful cairn]

oh no I HATE that

[tight viper]

2 days

[distant prawn]

What about if Silksong had a terrible prison facility

[icy crow]

?

[smoky bridge]

Cause he likely got put in the slammer after trying to destroy the Cogwork Dancers.

[rotund canyon]

I didnt see the bench when I first fought phantom

[icy crow]

The Slab:

[distant prawn]

gng i was 1 mask when i saw the bench

[distant prawn]

the locked one

[rotund canyon]

But I did phantom first try

[icy crow]

Can you send a screenshot or something

[silent stratus]

whats the longest boss walkback in the game if any1 knows

[distant prawn]

its the thing on Choral Chambers with rotation

[icy crow]

Groal if you don't find the hidden bench

[lavish apex]

i would say groal either way

[still osprey]

My brain is saying groal even with the bench

[icy crow]

...there's literally a lever there that flips the corridor either horizontally or vertically

[silent stratus]

i didnt fight groal but i have seen the fight, people make it out to seem insufferable.

[distant prawn]

i cant seem to enter that

[distant prawn]

Muckmaggots have a deadly penalty

[icy crow]

If you want to go to Whispering Vaults, go to it from Cogwork Core and get to the left side of the circle

[silent stratus]

is that the one that restricts binding?

[icy crow]

If you get Muckmaggots on you, yes

Multibinder can cancel Muckmaggots and make you heal though

[silent stratus]

ahhhh thats a neat feature

[normal bramble]

Beer at the halfway home gives focus???

That’s actually hilarous what

[graceful cairn]

just as irl beer does!

[void moat]

what do you have against mustaches

[graceful cairn]

he looks so dumb 😭

[void moat]

he looks goated

[exotic cedar]

Mooska is a supid dumb idot

[tulip python]

[still osprey]

Sometimes it's ok to be a stupid dumb idiot

[tulip python]

[surreal halo]

What's your favorite boss in ss ^_^

[surreal halo]

Hi gash roid ^_^

[tulip python]

Hello! Sorry got distracted!

[smoky bridge]

🚬
I think The Green Prince's story is a literary "mirror" of hornet's familial loss.
(both lost someone important, Green buges lover, Hornet's mother, both struggle to remember that person as they were, instead of the masks that came to define them)
In the futile pursuit of perpetuation which wasn't even a good Idea in the first place.

[tulip python]

I would say my favorite boss in Silk Song would be between either Lost Lace or Hunter Queen Carmelita!

[surreal halo]

Mine is probably first sinner or nyleth ^_^

[tulip python]

What about you? What is your favorite boss in Silk Song? 😄

[tulip python]

Oh DANG! Respect!

[minor sparrow]

Hmm not quite sure about that

[light swan]

second sentinel!

[still osprey]

I looove second sentinel

[minor sparrow]

I wish I had a unique boss I liked

[surreal halo]

Second sentinel was really fun ^_^

[tulip python]

Nyleth is definitely top 5 for me for sure!

[undone gate]

My top 3 favorite SS bosses are

1. Lost Lace
2. First Sinner
3. Karmalita

[light swan]

yo this server is so nice why can’t it always be like this

[surreal halo]

Everyone I talked to did sentinel in act 3 >_<

[surreal halo]

Bc it's hk main >_<

[tulip python]

Great Choices!

[surreal halo]

I think lost lace is my third ^_^

[lavish apex]

mine is karmelita for sure

[minor sparrow]

Any video game server is 50% comprised of complaining about the game you all play

[lavish apex]

wonder if dlc will be able to top her but i'm not sure

[still osprey]

Lost Lace is my favorite boss in the series

[surreal halo]

Or complaining about unrelated topics ^_^

[minor sparrow]

Going off of TCs record with dlc's I'd be willing to say so

[graceful oyster]

That steak I made earlier was so dang good

[lavish apex]

lmao

[minor sparrow]

Well lifeblood aside maybe cause hive knight was ok

[graceful oyster]

Like so good

[minor sparrow]

I like his vibes tho

[graceful oyster]

Top 10 steaks I've ever had

[lavish apex]

lmao at the steak comment i mean not what you said cardnal sorry

[still osprey]

Hive Knight is good I like Hive Knight

[minor sparrow]

I figured as much, you're good

[undone gate]

Hive Knight, Oro and Mato, White Defender are all still good bosses

[graceful oyster]

I kept the fat and seasonings left from my plate and the skillet so that I can have the flavor on something else

[lavish apex]

hive knight is really cool

[still osprey]

I don't think there's any bad boss added in any dlc

[lavish apex]

winged nosk is um
not great imo

[still osprey]

AbsRad is like, the worst of them and she's not bad, just mid

[graceful oyster]

Noskey

[graceful oyster]

True

[still osprey]

Ok tbf winged nosk doesn't even exist?

[severe jasper]

I already found Seth at shellwood but he isn't showing up at grand gate

[undone gate]

Some people consider GPZ bad I think GPZ is fine

[still osprey]

gpz is genuinely top 5 hk bosses

[exotic cedar]

Top 1*

[severe jasper]

I went back to shellwood to check and hes 100% gone, but for some fucking reason still isn't at grand gate

[earnest drift]

grey prince zote is good, the way he flies upwards on stagger is a little annoying

[icy crow]

He can be skipped from Grand Gate. Check Fleatopia

[rotund canyon]

He prob already at fleatopia

Man I hate bindings

[graceful oyster]

Idk what I'll use the steak fat for though

[rotund canyon]

I died at sisters of battle with all bindings in P5

[lavish apex]

absrad is frustrating because phase 1 would be almost perfect if not for how unfair the first hit of the triple spread laser attack feels, though the fight kinda drags a little bit after that

[graceful oyster]

Eggs comes to mind but I don't make eggs often

[rotund canyon]

I really dont wanna continue

[minor sparrow]

Yeah I just think hive knight was on the lesser end of the scale in terms of bosses in the dlcs

[undone gate]

That's sad especially considering they are right after Obolobbles

[minor sparrow]

Not that he's bad

[rotund canyon]

Yeah

[full halo]

guys i’m not even joking anymore i’ve replayed the game so many times since september that the map doesn’t even feel like a map it feels like muscle memory. i walk into rooms and my brain already knows the enemy spawn before it happens

i open the game sometimes just to sit on the menu hoping it’ll magically say “sea of sorrow available now”

[surreal halo]

He goes to grand gate? Hi marchon ^_^

[graceful oyster]

Roasted potatoes maybe?

[minor sparrow]

I do gotta give white defender some credit for being pretty fun though

[rotund canyon]

Obolobbles suck

[graceful oyster]

Brother there are better things out there you can do

[earnest drift]

oblobbles are worse than pale stag

[undone gate]

I would say Winged Nosk and Oro and Maro are worce

[graceful oyster]

Go play MIO or something

[minor sparrow]

I could like put you in a coma

[icy crow]

👋

[full halo]

No there isn’t there’s only silking

[minor sparrow]

If you get lucky you'll wake up for sea of sorrow

[lavish apex]

for as much as i glaze hk i will never defend oblobbles for even a breath that "boss" is terrible

[exotic cedar]

No theres much more world than only silking

[tame hound]

Better than pure vessel let’s be fr

[still osprey]

Oblobbles are so ass

[severe jasper]

Tysm

[minor sparrow]

Oro and mato was fine

[rotund canyon]

Bullethell / undertale fans would prob like oblobbles

[still osprey]

I'm an undertale fan, oblobbles are dogshit

[tame hound]

No I hate them

[lavish apex]

i'm a utdr fan they suck

[rotund canyon]

Yes im also an undertale fan

[earnest drift]

oro and mato are mediocre for me but they’re worse than hive knight

[tame hound]

Undertale is my favorite game ever I hate them

[undone gate]

Yea they aren't bad I just like Hive Knight more

[rotund canyon]

They just suck on rad

[minor sparrow]

Undertale like it's close to bullet hells

[earnest drift]

what does undertale have to do with oblobbles lol

bullet hell?

[still osprey]

bullets ig

[lavish apex]

bullet hell i guess

[rotund canyon]

yes

[minor sparrow]

It really isn't that much of a bullet hell

[undone gate]

Maybe if you actually moved like how you do in Undertale

[rotund canyon]

Yuh

[minor sparrow]

I give you omega flowey, sans and undyne but like one of those is a fight you can't lose

[rotund canyon]

thats how I beat em with bindings

[earnest drift]

constant blue soul mode

[minor sparrow]

And sans is just memorization

[earnest drift]

omega flowey without dying once is tough

[undone gate]

For a 2nd playthrow it's not that hard

[still osprey]

Undertale in general just, isn't a very hard game

[undone gate]

Hitless Omega Flowey is a completely different story and is way harder than Sans Hitless

[rotund canyon]

If you beat it before

[rotund canyon]

Like merg

[earnest drift]

which attack is the worst

[sharp yacht]

chat my laptop gpu artifacts. man im dead.

[still osprey]

Asriel is the hardest nohit in the game and it's not even close

[minor sparrow]

Just isn't in general, unless you were referring to something else

[earnest drift]

it took 10 years for someone to do the entire pacifist run no hit iirc

his final phase is extremely rng heavy

[rotund canyon]

Yes

Im wasting my time with P5 all bindings :/

[undone gate]

Like other than the genocide bosses I had to play at level 1 without items and killing the boss to make the pacifist bosses hard

[undone gate]

Atleast you aren't doing something like R5

[still osprey]

I wish undertale had more challenge to it, it's pretty hard to do any sort of real challenge without mods

[rotund canyon]

or fangames

Ok im gonna stop for now before I get too frustrated

[slender juniper]

Daily sawtooth circlet glaze

[earnest drift]

shreds absrad

[slender juniper]

But you can't read

[earnest drift]

do not bring up the I can’t read meme please

[turbid hatch]

genocide route

[slender juniper]

Yes I will

[earnest drift]

the joke was made by a bad person

[slender juniper]

Bro switched up real fast

[fathom echo]

Hitless asriel

[earnest drift]

what is that

[slender juniper]

Their server

[icy crow]

I don't get it

[surreal halo]

Same...

I have read the previous 89 messages.

[slender juniper]

That's the server of the Undertale predator lol, they immediately locked the server down and "put down support victims" everywhere

[icy crow]

Cannot wait for a famous Silksong community member get exposed and do the same thing

[still osprey]

wow almost as if we should support victims

[surreal halo]

Oh...

[slender juniper]

Who would you even acuse in the silksong community

...there's like no one

[icy crow]

Timmy Jimmy Jr.:

[slender juniper]

Mossbag got sacrificed for silksong,primacon well...he's a bit insane

[icy crow]

I know who is Mossbag but I never heard of Primacon

[slender juniper]

Bro was the reason silksong was delayed cuz he held hornet captice

[surreal halo]

Lots of people made videos like this...

[icy crow]

"It's OVER for HORNET"

"LACE has just HIT a NEW LOW"

[unkempt steeple]

I miss charm synergies, I think some tools would benefit from having synergies with certain crests and other tools

[icy crow]

"SHERMA accused of MURDER"

[surreal halo]

He dies seem like he gets lots of likes from this ^_^

[icy crow]

Tools do have synergies though?

[surreal halo]

She is though...

[subtle lynx]

There are some but they are very hidden and irrelevant

[surreal halo]

Poison?

Actually nvm...

[subtle lynx]

That's not a synergy that's just how the charm works lol

[unkempt steeple]

yeah ik

[subtle lynx]

It's like saying long nail and mark of pride have synergy

[surreal halo]

Yeah that's why I said nvm ^_^

[unkempt steeple]

not obvious or huge ones

[surreal halo]

I just realized that right after I sent it >_<

[icy crow]

I mean yeah

[subtle lynx]

Long claw and witch crest have anti synergy though

[icy crow]

Let's thank Team Cherry for not giving free +50% damage to powercreeps in Silksong this time

[surreal halo]

That's a bit to late...

[icy crow]

Can celebrate anytime lol

Me when I want a fair build and then bro tells me to equip Unb. Strength

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[surreal halo]

Or quick slash >_<

[slender juniper]

Me when I see a build without shamans stone:

[icy crow]

I've done all pantheons without Quick Slash

It's literally not that bad at all lol

[surreal halo]

How many ab did you do again?

[icy crow]

Shaman Stone is a must have for sure

[surreal halo]

It isn't (I haven't done p5)

[icy crow]

I didn't do all bindings at once, but once or two at a time

I did finish pantheons 1-4 with the bindings complete to maximize the lifeblood room

[slender juniper]

"I can't heal"-what mfs without quick focus shape of un say

[surreal halo]

I forgot, you had told me previously ^_^

[icy crow]

I did use Quick Focus in a few sectors of pantheons

[surreal halo]

Unn is nice but it isn't needed ^_^

[icy crow]

Team Cherry announcing this patch is the last before SoS though

Guess I'm getting back to the game really soon

[icy crow]

Shape of Unn is unironically really niche

I haven't seen anyone actually use it for real in pantheons

[surreal halo]

I'm gonna go sleep ^_^

Cya marchon ^_^

[surreal halo]

Cya later Monor ^_^

[earnest drift]

barbed bracelet my beloved

[still osprey]

silksong's tool and crest system is so much better than hk's charm system

[subtle lynx]

Charms were added late in development

[icy crow]

See you

[subtle lynx]

And you can tell

[icy crow]

Some of them

[subtle lynx]

Though some tools have no explanation, like the yellow needolin tool

Has anyone actually used that

[earnest drift]

me when you get fragile strength and shaman stone in the first 3 hours of the game

[icy crow]

Spider Strings would have more use if the Needolin could actually have a combat utility

Not just play the same chords over

[subtle lynx]

But it doesn't, so why does it even exist

[icy crow]

Little excuse to make it worth the +1%

[rocky jolt]

i never used shaman stone in my first playthrough

[subtle lynx]

Ig needolin did have combat utility at some point

[earnest drift]

what if needolin + pollip pouch so you can stun the enemy while the poison runs out

every

single

time

spider strings only use is to make more npcs sing at the same time

[icy crow]

Not really iirc

It only really just stuns majority of bosses and enemies for mind dialogue

[earnest drift]

are yellow tools unbalanced

[icy crow]

Only time it is deadass required is for opening the Grand Gate entrance and getting through the Mist

[still osprey]

Spider Strings would actually be a pretty decent tool if the attunement mechanic still existed

But, it doesn't

[normal bramble]

You don’t actually needddddd needolin for the mist

[subtle lynx]

No, all have uses except for spider strings and spider sprint whatever it's called

[normal bramble]

You could just get ridiculous lucky :p

[icy crow]

Needolin should've had unique notes that could be played depending on the arrow key pressed while playing instead of just low and high pitch

[earnest drift]

are silksprint anklets bad

[still osprey]

Silkspeed Anklets are my goat do not diss them

[normal bramble]

No

[fathom echo]

Silkspeed bracelets

[odd hull]

True

[normal bramble]

Silk speed anklets are amazing

[subtle lynx]

No I don't mean that

I'm talking about the spider backwards sprint

[normal bramble]

Ya that sucks….

[earnest drift]

oh scuttlebrace

[still osprey]

Oh scuttlebrace

[subtle lynx]

The one were hornet sprints like a spider

[icy crow]

I mean yeah, but 99.9% of the time you'd take the wrong route

[subtle lynx]

Yeah that

[earnest drift]

smaller hitbox is cool but removing down dash is sad

[normal bramble]

True

[earnest drift]

I like down dash

[subtle lynx]

I've never used downdash, but it's STH else I have to get used to with no pros

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-peoples-phone-prank-centinods-phone-magnifying-glass-gif-5077848234199048746

[normal bramble]

Scuttlebrace just feels forgettable icl I forget to ever use it

[subtle lynx]

Why would I ever use that

Besides style points

[normal bramble]

I tried it to see if it was good

[leaden delta]

ily downdash

[normal bramble]

And literally forgot I even had it equipped for the next 20 minutes

[still osprey]

It lets you fly

[icy crow]

The most useless tools are only worth getting because of the +1% fr

[minor sparrow]

Even more style points

[subtle lynx]

Same

[icy crow]

Team Cherry basically making more than half the game completion percentage be tools

[rocky jolt]

it doesnt even make you fall faster it just makes you reach max falling speed faster

[subtle lynx]

But drifters cloak doesn't count for some reason

[still osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1469204081615704134/1469204085017280644/peak_01_scuttlesoar.mp4?ex=69bae1ae&is=69b9902e&hm=2d8d5fdbc79cfbc933468b3de854846f866f73b13b033428d6c906890e2b8698&

[icy crow]

Neither does Faydown

[minor sparrow]

There she goes I guess

[icy crow]

I guess Team Cherry just decided to shit on cloak upgrades

[subtle lynx]

Yeah they did

[normal bramble]

Yup

[icy crow]

Unless they will be patched to give percentage in SoS

[fervent wharf]

someone tell me how many home decorations

[subtle lynx]

How many home decorations

[rocky jolt]

they made killing seer in the first game be a percentage of course they would do that

[minor sparrow]

Does it really matter though?

[fervent wharf]

you tell me

[subtle lynx]

If you're talking about 100% it's unintuitive

[rocky jolt]

all frey items + gramophone crawbell farsight and materium

[icy crow]

Evil ass percentage system

[spark anchor]

No

[subtle lynx]

But it's not like you're gonna get the thing that shows percentage without those upgrades

[normal bramble]

I mean for 100% you’d assume you’d need all items regardless and to get all items you need fay down anyways

[fervent wharf]

thank you\

[minor sparrow]

If you're talking about 100% it doesn't really need to be because of farsight

[rocky jolt]

getting 2400 essence doesnt give you a reward smh

[icy crow]

Ori 1 & 2 completion system better than this 🎋

[still osprey]

Sea of Sorrow will allegedly add new tools too so

[subtle lynx]

And a crest

[rocky jolt]

at least they dont force you to complete path of pain or pantheon 5

[icy crow]

Only to bloat up even more the ridiculous 50%+ of tools lmao

[subtle lynx]

You don't need to complete pantheon 5

Or pop

[minor sparrow]

Nor all the tools/ abilities you need which are locked behind act 3

[rocky jolt]

they should add a biledart tool

[amber aspen]

hii

[still osprey]

I mean, Snare Setter doesn't count as a %!

[icy crow]

Cannot wait to see Zoteboat 100% completion require every single dialogue chunk of NPCs to be listened!

[icy crow]

Act three has only like 6% locked in it

[minor sparrow]

To beat the enemy you must understand the enemy, which is why I hide in my local pond and throw darts at people

[earnest drift]

why do people say groal is so evil

[minor sparrow]

And you can't get those without already having the upgrades

[earnest drift]

how evil is groal really

he killed a snail shaman okay but that was one kill

[icy crow]

Not evil at all. His hate is actually justified

[earnest drift]

soul master killed hundreds for his soul power

[earnest drift]

yeah I thought so

[icy crow]

You would not want your once flourishing clean local waterfalls be polluted by the shitty Citadel

[earnest drift]

and every other tribe kills outsiders, so doesn’t that make groal’s killing of the shaman no different from the others?

[icy crow]

And ended up getting obese as a result

[tight viper]

The cocoons in the secret bench room are full of dead pilgrims

[tight viper]

Groal’s no saint

[icy crow]

Pretty sure that was after the Citadel polluted his home

Then his hatred boiled up

[tight viper]

Doesn’t matter, those pilgrims had nothing to do with that

[minor sparrow]

So we killed innocent people trying to get through 🔥 🔥 🔥

[tight viper]

Groal’s an evil bastard

[earnest drift]

yes but again, every tribe kills outsiders
if groal is evil for killing pilgrims, then Karmelita, clover dancers and mantis lords are evil for doing the same

[icy crow]

Fair point, but what if they aided the pollution 🤔

[minor sparrow]

It's evil, I get why he did it, but that doesn't make him less evil

[minor sparrow]

Which they couldn't prove. you're kinda just killing people hoping they did something

[tight viper]

The Mantis Lords offer fair warning, and they live in an infected world. Even Ogrim had a kill on sight rule

[icy crow]

Does this make Groal chaotic evil, neutral evil or lawful evil?

[earnest drift]

groal would have more of a reason to target pilgrims though, because pilgrims try to join the citadel

[minor sparrow]

Yeah, killing innocent people is pretty bad

Saying "oh but this person did it" doesn't make it better

[earnest drift]

so every territorial tribe is morally bankrupt?

I’d understand that I just want consistency

[minor sparrow]

One can make the argument, sure

[icy crow]

This is why Khann is the goat. He does not murder people intentionally

[tight viper]

Not necessarily, but there are so many dead innocents in the secret bench room

A fuckton of dead pilgrims in those cocoons

[earnest drift]

I don’t know if he was territorial but he was a fascist tyrant

he abandoned the weak individuals of his tribe and likely left them to die

and he didn’t seem to care about his soldiers dying for his rule

[tight viper]

Khann is also quite dastardly

[icy crow]

What about Nyleth?

[minor sparrow]

19th century ass wording lol

[earnest drift]

is there a reason more pilgrims would trespass into Bilewater than the other territories

[tight viper]

How do we know for sure that they trespassed?

[minor sparrow]

Nyleth is kinda the unn of pharloom in my eyes, but I'd have to read up a bit more on her lore

[tight viper]

How do we know they weren’t found and killed for soul?

Or out of blind hatred

[earnest drift]

how else would they get into Bilewater? if groal was sending stilkin to leave Bilewater and kill pilgrims then yes they would be much more evil

[fervent wharf]

if you get this message to 35 thumbs up I willl break the 12th architect's heart

[earnest drift]

there isn’t anything pointing to that

all they needed was the shaman

[tight viper]

If not for soul, then out of pure hatred

[icy crow]

Nyleth is probably the only lawful good of the old leaders to be honest. She wanted to make Shellwood safe for people and fought against the splinters

[earnest drift]

if the kill happened within Bilewater, it doesn’t make groal any different from other territorial tribe leaders

[tight viper]

Their corpses are all bound up in a room with a lore tablet noting how full of hatred the Stilkin are

[earnest drift]

yes I think the corpses are strung up as a warning to other outsiders

[tight viper]

Also, that lore tablet says

Their shells are ours.
Their souls are ours.
Our hate is forever.

They claim their corpses and souls

[earnest drift]

for all we know the skarr have just as many corpses, they just don’t put them on display

[earnest drift]

oh shit never thought of that interpretation

[icy crow]

I wonder if Groal did go after soul before or after murdering a Snail Shaman

[earnest drift]

still if the kills are only happening within Bilewater I don’t think it makes groal worse than the other tribes

actually using corpses as fuel for power might make them worse idk

[severe jasper]

I just got 50 in flea juggle I can probably beat Seth by the end of the day

Shaman is op in juggle

[earnest drift]

so yes khann was an awful person and I’d say he was worse than groal

[severe jasper]

Is that from Khann?

[earnest drift]

yes

[minor sparrow]

Both HK games turning into a game of who is the worst leader

[severe jasper]

Khan seems like the kind of person who would say 'the blacks' but say he isn't racist

[blazing ocean]

Idk abt yall thinking groal was a bad leader

[severe jasper]

He gives off racist grandpa vibes yk?

[minor sparrow]

No, khann would probably just kill anyone he doesn't like

[icy crow]

Khann was awful but I'd say he's a lawful evil considering he was going against Grandmother Silk's rule over Pharloom

His final dialogue after death also mentions "Our claws to save them all..."

[blazing ocean]

Hes a weakling as well like a weakling wants his army to be made of weaklings

[icy crow]

Potentially could have stopped the Haunting beforehand if bro's waters did not suddenly end

[normal bramble]

Potential boss

[earnest drift]

ok wait watcher at the edge attacks hornet
so yes I think the karak were territorial

is watcher at the edge haunted

[icy crow]

Pretty sure not

[minor sparrow]

Don't think so. You have to wake him up first

[icy crow]

He's just dormant and his command is to guard the edge

So he's probably just doing his job literally

[earnest drift]

what could that mean

[normal bramble]

Nah

[blazing ocean]

How did they end tho

[normal bramble]

He’s basically like Seth

Fighting you cause it’s his job to

[icy crow]

Save them from the Citadel, perhaps? Khann was going against it after all

[odd hull]

I drank it all.

[earnest drift]

I guess but the karak were only a bit better than the citadel

[severe jasper]

Ok fine maybe I just called khann racist because his boss kinda sucked

[icy crow]

Evil big ass slurper drank all of it

[blazing ocean]

The typa gluttony they talk abt in the bible

[halcyon moat]

Heh.... Silk

[severe jasper]

Khann and Watcher at the edge both need to be buffed

[icy crow]

I'd say he's still lawful evil

What about Karmelita?

[blazing ocean]

Needed to be REMOVED

[normal bramble]

I like khann as is

[severe jasper]

They both have potential

[blazing ocean]

Karmalita is a loving mother

[minor sparrow]

Lawful neutral probably

[earnest drift]

so mantis lords, skarr and verdanians kill all outsiders
groal kills outsiders and possibly harvests the corpses for soul
khann kills outsiders and also abandons weak members of his tribe

[normal bramble]

If anything id almost rather his arena be even harder

[icy crow]

You mean neutral good?

[minor sparrow]

No