sk-discussion

[minor sparrow]

Which in turn saves hornet later on

[steep wadi]

the knight "saves" an already dead kingdom

[radiant sluice]

aand the vessel did contain the infection for a bit before it leaked which begun the game

[minor sparrow]

Yeah, everyone else could have died too

[onyx owl]

Yea, point stands

[icy crow]

Theory that Hallownest recovers over time

[strong lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-gif-15583178749253214866

[radiant sluice]

better to save what remains than let it all die

[onyx owl]

I really want to ask PK haters what they think he should've done with the info he had

[minor sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-gif-15583178749253214866

[steep wadi]

most everyone DID die
most of the people of hallownest die before even the events of the game

[odd hull]

yeah, like 5 people saved!

[brittle totem]

"Ah yes I saved a dead man from being shot 5 times" the guy was already dead, it wouldn't have mattered if you stopped the desecration of his body

[minor sparrow]

I guess saving people doesn't matter if there aren't a lot of them

[steep wadi]

saving a corpse isnt saving
thats why i put quotation marks

[onyx owl]

??? It can come together since the infection is gone now.

[steep wadi]

saving people =/= saving a kingdom

[onyx owl]

A lot of people are still standing

[minor sparrow]

Are they not aligned with their kingdom?

Functionally the idea of the kingdom isn't dead

[radiant sluice]

people make the kingdom 🤦

[glacial tinsel]

what happens if i try to evolve hunter crest without having it? (not cursed or cloakless, just if i remove it from my save completely)

[onyx owl]

Soldiers, shopkeepers, servants, civilians, the nobility etc.

[brittle totem]

brutha 5 ppl are NOT going to rebuild an entire kingdom, it's like expecting 4 bunnies to restart the entire australian bunny crises

[minor sparrow]

There are still those who remember and those to live out it's culture and ideas

[onyx owl]

Sure bro we see 5 people in hallownest

[raw pawn]

Btw did the minions in sister splinter use to deal double damage?

[strong lotus]

Dude hollownest is a kingdom nonetheless
There's gotta be some bugs left
And overtime it will start rebuilding it self

[steep wadi]

the nobility all fucking died what

[minor sparrow]

Yes

[brittle totem]

what bugs bro? radiance killed everyone

[radiant sluice]

there are more than 5 and they can still rebuild hallownest and repopulate it i suppose

[steep wadi]

theres like one noblewoman left

[onyx owl]

Eternal Emilitia is an example for nobility still alive

[minor sparrow]

Emelita is right there

[steep wadi]

READ

[raw pawn]

Yeah honestly I think they deserved the nerf

[radiant sluice]

denji go back to simping for makima bro 💔

[strong lotus]

Bunnies breed alot sooo idk

[onyx owl]

We don't know how many are left, but we do see lots of people still

[minor sparrow]

Clearly not everyone as there are still bugs alive in the game

[strong lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-gif-15583178749253214866

[brittle totem]

nah man reze my goat 🥀 waitin for her to come back to the cafe bruh 💔

[minor sparrow]

Discord mobile my beloathed

[onyx owl]

To claim the kingdom is emptied of life lacks any source

[radiant sluice]

she dead gng

[raw pawn]

Are there haunted bugs that are still alive tho?

[steep wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[brittle totem]

she gon come back i swear 💔

[onyx owl]

It's called dead because there isn't any authority left and is in a stasis

[icy crow]

Cannot the infected people who haven't been brutally murdered by a vessel restore back to normal once the infection dissipates

[brittle totem]

https://tenor.com/view/denji-waiting-pouting-cafe-flowers-gif-13864754088171462336

[onyx owl]

Keep in mind White Lady is still there for example

[steep wadi]

no
the infection kills the bugs

[onyx owl]

Not necessarily

[strong lotus]

That's literally what I've been saying

[exotic dome]

sea of spoon tomorrow

[brittle totem]

istg evb says this and it neva comes

[onyx owl]

We even uninfect some people ingame LITERALLY

[raw pawn]

No seriously are there haunted bugs that are still alive?

[radiant sluice]

the infection only controls their mind bro. why else would we have enemies in the gaame

[minor sparrow]

That's a good question though, to which I don't think TC has given an answer

[strong lotus]

And WE ALL know what white lady does best

[steep wadi]

it literally does?
once you go full infected you die

[onyx owl]

brother

[steep wadi]

we only uninfect people that arent fully gone

[onyx owl]

No, for example we literally save Sly who is under the influence of the infection

[minor sparrow]

Well I mean it solves the population issue

[steep wadi]

sly wasnt fully gone

[strong lotus]

And bretta too

[raw pawn]

Does that mean the fools aren't fully infected tho?

[strong lotus]

Yes

[steep wadi]

neither was bretta

[onyx owl]

And what proof you have that fully infected bugs are dead when they still have thoughts and are active?

[onyx owl]

They aren't dead, they are dreaming

Hence "dream no more"

[brittle totem]

bellhart as an example, though they were haunted on a smaller scale, they still came back, i guess the survival rate for haunting is ~40%

[strong lotus]

The radiance infected bugs by their DREAMS so in theory if the radiance is gone the host will become normal again

[onyx owl]

Infection can kill people, but to claim getting fully infected immediately kills the host is baseless

[onyx owl]

THANK YOU

[minor sparrow]

Either way there's no way for us to know especially because TC is allergic to explaining post game events

[onyx owl]

We can work through implications and clues

[raw pawn]

I don't think Myla died by the infection tho

[onyx owl]

But yeah

[exotic dome]

i wish sly died

[onyx owl]

Yea we slimed her ass bro she's dead dead

[icy crow]

If you don't murder her, well

[brittle totem]

she's dead bro let her go

[steep wadi]

what

[vivid horizon]

why

[steep wadi]

my ass aint slime no-one fuck you talking about

[exotic dome]

i hate his boss fight

[onyx owl]

Relatable

[steep wadi]

silk issue

[rocky jolt]

imagine being myla having 0 relevance and 0 development

[onyx owl]

She does develop

[vivid horizon]

I used to struggle on pantheon 3 and 5 BECAUSE of him

[stiff night]

guys i just got harpoon what now?

[strong lotus]

It's not even that hard vro 💔 🥀

[onyx owl]

In opposite direction

[minor sparrow]

She does have both so

[icy crow]

Great Nailsage Sly is a rather tricky fight but it becomes stupidly easy once you realize his behavior

[exotic dome]

i beat him in radiant difficulty, it's not fun

[toxic vigil]

Shaww

[rocky jolt]

getting infected isnt really development

[toxic vigil]

Hello!

[raw pawn]

He has like 3 mark of pride equipped lmao

[stiff night]

lol

[steep wadi]

i mean is kinda is
her character does change

[toxic vigil]

His nail is just. Bigger

[minor sparrow]

Is being called to the influence of the radiance not development?

[stiff night]

i just got double jump what now?

[brittle totem]

Mark of pride is the most skilled charm change my mind

[icy crow]

He will try to cut you down if you get close but you can hit him right when he finishes an attack

[steep wadi]

coughs
FotF

[toxic vigil]

Everything

[icy crow]

Basically attack-bait him

[vivid horizon]

You double jump

[rocky jolt]

even then it would be the same thing as moss prophet so myla is not unique at all

[toxic vigil]

You can go to memorium

[stiff night]

for?

[raw pawn]

He becomes very hard to hit in the 2nd phase tho

[minor sparrow]

And it also shows us how it looks when someone is being infected

[toxic vigil]

Stuff ig.
Double jump unlocks a LOT of shit

[brittle totem]

materium, fat flea, putrid shitwater

[minor sparrow]

One of those has 2 lines of dialogue, is already worshipping the radiance and immediately dies

[icy crow]

Nah. Bait him to get nearby you and wait him to finish spinning, then attack him in the short window where he just hovers in the air

[stiff night]

got al already

[minor sparrow]

One of those slowly goes through the process of infection in fromt of the player

[toxic vigil]

Also volt vessels are in memorium

[stiff night]

btw whats the purpose of sinners road?

[brittle totem]

I'd lowk worship Unn if it promised an air conditioner, a soft bed, a bathtub with warm water, good food.

[steep wadi]

uh
unn promises Green

[raw pawn]

Moss prophet worshipped the radiance just to get slimed by her at the end

[minor sparrow]

Now if you can't see the difference in that, watch a tree fall down vs two images of a tree standing and fallen

[toxic vigil]

You can go to the mist from there

[strong lotus]

Sinners Road is the road where you go to shoot your load

[stiff night]

the mist?

[toxic vigil]

Ya

[stiff night]

whats that

[brittle totem]

convincing act 1 players that it's a good idea to suffer in shitwater

[stiff night]

im already in act 2

[toxic vigil]

Bilewater without double jump is hell

[brittle totem]

never return to shitwater lite(sinners road)

[icy crow]

Sub-area in Bilewater/Sinner's Road mandatory to cross with the Needolin to reach Exhaust Organ in Bilewater

[minor sparrow]

Unn is pretty chill, I'd worship her

[brittle totem]

this is why you get double jump in act 3

[raw pawn]

Sinner's road exist so you can go to bilewater and exhaust organ

[brittle totem]

good enough

[stiff night]

why would i go there?

[vivid horizon]

fun

[strong lotus]

It's for peak

[icy crow]

Literally all are required for 100%

[minor sparrow]

Just get it in 2, there no reason not to

[raw pawn]

Because

[vivid horizon]

celeste mountain

[steep wadi]

cross stitch 🤤

[stiff night]

I HATE THE MAONTAIN ITS WORSE THEN POP

[light swan]

bilewater is enough of an incentive

[minor sparrow]

Which I enjoy so there's no reason not to

[raw pawn]

The main reason is you get to fight phantom and phantom is peak

[steep wadi]

mount fey? its cake bro lock in

[steep wadi]

pfft

[vivid horizon]

Not true

[brittle totem]

i was so happy when i could spam cross stitch against those 40 iq disgusting lowly lazy underworkers

[toxic vigil]

We got:
Bilewater
Greymoor and bilewater combination
Bilewater 2
Bilwater and greymoor AND its a pocket dimension

[strong lotus]

[toxic vigil]

Its literally forced for act 3 xd

[stiff night]

whats cross stitch?

[onyx owl]

Coping

[steep wadi]

best spell in the game

[icy crow]

You clearly do not know about the Path or Mild Inconvenience

[raw pawn]

Putrified ducts sucks I hope it burns up by the fire in wisp thicket

[vivid horizon]

Fun parry silk skill brrrr

[minor sparrow]

Not even close bro

[brittle totem]

the color green is like if blue and yellow had a child

[onyx owl]

SS doesn't have any platforming remotely close to PoP or WP

[icy crow]

Silk Skill located literally inside Exhaust Organ

[toxic vigil]

Yeahh

[steep wadi]

id say surface climb is somewhat comparable to wp

[brittle totem]

you seem like if a man and a woman had a child

[light swan]

you laugh but you dont know how right i am

[steep wadi]

not nearly as long though

[onyx owl]

Loud incorrect buzz

[stiff night]

il do phantom ig

[minor sparrow]

It's significantly shorter and mostly just requires clawline and wall climb

[raw pawn]

I feel like they will add an extra hard platforming section in Mt fay in a dlc tho

[steep wadi]

wp wasnt thaaat bad it was just really long

[strong lotus]

You are bout to experience peak brother

[toxic vigil]

Who the hell decided to make 4 bilewaters

[icy crow]

Nah Faydown Cloak is also mandatory

[vivid horizon]

Me

[minor sparrow]

...yet

[exotic dome]

you pogo 10 flying enemies

[onyx owl]

Yea surface climb isn't too hard either and isn't long at all

[rocky jolt]

mount fay and white palace are both full on platforming areas

[onyx owl]

Yea

[minor sparrow]

Wp is mandatory for true ending as well

[exotic dome]

not for the weaver queen ending

[onyx owl]

Yea

I did weaver queen without the wings

[steep wadi]

thats why i said somewhat comparable
difficulty wise the platforming is similar its just that wp is like 5 times longer

[icy crow]

It is for the Surface climb I mean

[onyx owl]

LMFAO

[raw pawn]

Yeah I don't think any platforming section in this game can compare to white palace

Not even pop

[light swan]

difficultywise surface climb is so easy it's just the same wall jump clawline double jump 15 times

[toxic vigil]

i did surface climb with fucking delver's drill

[severe jasper]

Is it possible to get all 3 nail upgrades without going to act 3?

[exotic dome]

surface climb is easier than mt fay and cogwork core parkour

[icy crow]

No

One is locked specifically in act three

[toxic vigil]

there are 4 and 3 are avaible

[onyx owl]

Last one is locked to arc 3

[exotic dome]

they should add like 10 path of pains in a single dlc

[toxic vigil]

path of sorrow

[steep wadi]

i found mount fey and cogwork core to be easier personally
just cuz its more space

[onyx owl]

In the end we see PK looking into the distance and helping baby Hornet eat food

[raw pawn]

She asks him how much did it cost and he says no cost too great

[onyx owl]

30 hours of platforming for that 5 second cutscene btw

[toxic vigil]

Path of lifeblood overdose

[toxic vigil]

30??? i did it in 2 on my 1st try

now it takes me like 15 mins per

[hearty wren]

I don't get the point that the vc's are so empty

[onyx owl]

I was exaggarating it

[brittle totem]

GMS was the best ruler ever change my mind

[steep wadi]

pop took me like 30 minutes its so short

[toxic vigil]

can i just say phantom is peak AND they give the peak skill

[short estuary]

yo im prolly gonna be stupid (i am) cuz i got the Plasmium Gland and my Plasmium Phial is empty and wont fill in am i doin something wrong…

[icy crow]

Not every server needs to have their voice channels filled to the brim 24/7

[hearty wren]

10 mins pb

[steep wadi]

schlawg gms aint even rule

[steep wadi]

ive only done it the one time so

[light swan]

awakened gms is what the boss should be

[icy crow]

Awakened Sherma:

[light swan]

can we promote awakened gms more

[raw pawn]

Broodmother is what a boss shouldn't be

[light swan]

the only actual realistic modded boss

[rocky jolt]

no my ruler is the best 📏

[hearty wren]

I get it but still very sparse

[light swan]

awakened gms post

[sharp slate]

eh cursed crest achievement would have been fucking horrible

[hearty wren]

Doing PoP second time takes you less than an hour

So

[raw pawn]

Gauntlet before the boss, she deals double damage, spawns a million millions that explode, and deals double contact damage

[short estuary]

GUYS WHATS UP WITH MY PLASMIUM PHIAL CUZ ITS EMPTY EVEN THOUGHT I HAVE THE PLASMIUM GLAND (OR AM I JUST STUPID..)

[exotic dome]

she only has one extra attack iirc

[light swan]

it's supposed to be a challenge and id be happy

[hearty wren]

Is it just me or hk's map is better than sk

[light swan]

can we talk about witch iframes at 0:09

[sharp slate]

I wouldnt say that the achievement was easy though, tbh took me quite a few attempts

[icy crow]

It's technically more colorful

[brittle totem]

how old is sherma ??

[sharp slate]

i like awakened gms a lot though

[light swan]

but i wouldnt be upset if it was harder

[icy crow]

He is 11 years old

[sharp slate]

i wouldn't mind if it was harder, but i think it fits well at its currently difficulty for thk level fight tbh

[light swan]

id rather have a fun regular boss and an extra difficult challenge

[rose forge]

Account based in Citadel

[hearty wren]

On the other hand it's way like "it gets you lost"

[exotic dome]

sk has a couple of filler areas

[steep wadi]

grown ass man

[light swan]

over a less fun regular boss but a normally difficult challenge

[raw pawn]

7 years and they still chose to not make you track yourself on the map an upgrade instead of a tool/charm

[light swan]

also awakened gms is still a patience boss that gets difficult with aggression

[smoky bridge]

I like navigating without it :(

[brittle totem]

We should draft sherma into the citadel armed forces to fight the void

[hearty wren]

Yeah and obviously they are miserable

[steep wadi]

well yellow tools are all ass anyways (except dice) so

[rose forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-this-post-was-fact-checked-this-post-was-fact-checked-by-real-citadel-patriots-silksong-grand-mother-silk-gif-15533073062746572687

[brittle totem]

#draftsherma

[lavish apex]

hot take this mechanic is fine
i like actually memorizing areas

[rose forge]

Account based in Bilewater

[minor sparrow]

I feel like they could have, not should have as km not a game dev, made a similar check to the one with void heart where it tones gms down for cursed specifically

[light swan]

the first time i did cursed ending i had 5 hp so i think with more preparation (aka make people get masks whlie cursed) so i definitely think cursed awakened gms is doable and reasonable

[smoky bridge]

Yeah actually using a map is fun.

[lavish apex]

it's cool when games make features like that equippable

[light swan]

i completley agree with this

[lavish apex]

nier automata and mio do similar things

[smoky bridge]

They should have made the UI a charm

[light swan]

Self-Awareness

[smoky bridge]

Yeah.

[steep wadi]

i hate memorizing areas yet i still think the mechanic is fine

[minor sparrow]

And they make it a cheap upgrade every time, so I don't really care that much

[exotic dome]

one notch compass and compass as a yellow tool are fine

[minor sparrow]

Yellow slots have the least value anyways and in hk it's one notch

[smoky bridge]

I never use them cause it make me feel smort

I like feeling smort.

[light swan]

lowkey a weird thing about mio is that your hair trail on the map goes away after you go far enough, just dont see the point of that lol

[lavish apex]

i think your first foray into an area being blind mapwise is consistently very cool and the compasses are generally pretty unobtrusive to put on if you feel like you need it

[fiery burrow]

based?

[minor sparrow]

Because hair can only grow so long

[fiery burrow]

I mean I think if there was an accessibility menu making map tracking the default and removing boss runbacks would be top priority though

[fiery burrow]

Along with deleting Lost Lace from the game so its easier for people who struggle with visibility issues

[minor sparrow]

Also why khann in the background like xenoverse goku

[civic bolt]

Why don't we just name her...Found Lace

[rose forge]

its his corpse

[steep wadi]

dawg

[rose forge]

she is Lost to the void

[minor sparrow]

Yeah but why is the image there specifically

[fiery burrow]

Because of the aforementioned visibility issues

[rose forge]

pilgrim idk

[fiery burrow]

You have to find her everytime she teleports

[steep wadi]

hes aurafarming leave him be

[light swan]

never had this problem

[minor sparrow]

Very helpful

[light swan]

the problem is in corners where she stacks her void attacks

[civic bolt]

Well and also make her, y'know, found

[exotic dome]

just lock in

[fiery burrow]

Its mostly an issue in tandem with all the other black things you have to keep track of

[rose forge]

Account based in Hornet's location

[opaque sigil]

neither of these are really accessibility things though

[minor sparrow]

The left corner in particular has some visibility issues, but otherwise LL is pretty easy for me to see

[steep wadi]

if you just stay in her face the whole time you dont really gotta keep track of any of that tho

[fiery burrow]

I meant an assist menu

[light swan]

same

[fiery burrow]

Accessibility would be like for disabilities and stuff yeah

[light swan]

i agree with the visibility problem but never the problem of having to find her when she teleports

[exotic cedar]

Is it just me or i think they should remove the climbility of the walls in the lost lace fight

[opaque sigil]

the visibility issue is more with the constant black projectile spam originating from random places

[exotic cedar]

You can get binds wayyy too easily

[minor sparrow]

She's easiest to spot when she does her tendril teleport honestly. Puts her right at the spot you should be looking already

[exotic dome]

i've never had any issues too

[exotic dome]

yea tc never adds acccessibility settings

[minor sparrow]

Random? The only time that applies is like the seeking void spawn attack

[minor sparrow]

Never really used them except for the tidal wave phase

[smoky bridge]

Also Haha! This boss is for one curio and a mod I'm never gonna use XD.

[exotic cedar]

It made me bind pretty easily

[light swan]

if youre talking about scarlet violet, also lore for the moment that started the ENTIRE events of the entire game

[minor sparrow]

I thought you meant qurio but that's an entire different game

[exotic cedar]

She can't really reach you

[smoky bridge]

The green buge of mio

[light swan]

lots of people think that what you get after the fight is the moment that started the entire game and probably the most iportant event in mio

[minor sparrow]

She's already pretty easy to heal on imo

[fiery burrow]

what if there were qurious grand hunts and you used them to upgrade your needle

[vagrant dirge]

this is my first time playing silksong and i'm currently battling last judge, any tips?

[exotic cedar]

It would be cool if it was harder

[lavish apex]

also a cool mod

even though it's not that good

[light swan]

a cool mod that sucks but yea

[smoky bridge]

I know, the lore is really cool, but I thought I was going for the last candle.

[opaque sigil]

what mod is it again

[light swan]

black widow

[lavish apex]

#buffstriderbuilds

[smoky bridge]

I found it.
Don't know how I missed it.

[light swan]

ive made it useful but it'll be top tier when strattacks get buffed soon

[opaque sigil]

is that happening

[lavish apex]

have they said they're going to do that?

[light swan]

most likely, the devs know that strattacks suck

[minor sparrow]

Sure I guess. You can just make it a self-imposed challenge since a good chunk of people have enough challenges with the boss

[fiery burrow]

Last Judge is mostly being very cautious of the attack where she swings her mace around in a circle imo, so don't get too greedy with your hits. Magma Bell will make her fire attacks do less damage as well, and red tools will make the fight significantly easier if you're willing to grab shell shards every few attempts

[smoky bridge]

I was mostly confused because Uuh... The boss and area feels like they have no connection to spiders??

[smoky bridge]

And the bossfight basically entirely prevents the use of striders.
So it was just. A choice?

[light swan]

yea they dont, its kind of a random addition i feel

[exotic cedar]

I can't really mod silksong rn when i dowlanded cogfly (mod launcher) hornet couldnt use her needle attacks except pogos and sprint attacks

[lavish apex]

one thing i hope to see if mio gets dlc is more bosses that are kinda like "pals :D"

[light swan]

but not the point of the reward obviously

[lavish apex]

with background stuff to climb on

[minor sparrow]

Why are you sno-cone flavored?

[raw pawn]

The pilgrims are lowkey stupid they should have just flied to the citadel if they have wings smh

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885988783525355582/1466250363949809705/ezgif-664d344b0d6ae568.gif

[exotic dome]

weakest shairpin build

[smoky bridge]

Hairpin is so cool of an ability but also so op

[plain bloom]

looks kind of like ori 2 combat... is it fun?

[raw pawn]

Chairpin

[light swan]

funnest platformer combat system ive ever played

[smoky bridge]

Way better than Ori 2

[exotic dome]

it's ori if it wasnt mid

[light swan]

what that gif shows is just a hint of it

[lavish apex]

dude this fuckin evil ass group of enemies

i swear

[smoky bridge]

I hate the plants I hate the plants.

[light swan]

i love bulbasaurs

[smoky bridge]

Except nyleth

[sharp slate]

Me trying to avoid mio content mission impossible

[light swan]

im joking i fucking hate them

[smoky bridge]

She can stay.

[light swan]

i mean luckily theres no major spoilers :D

[raw pawn]

The zombies be like

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gioated-family-guy-peter-griffin-crazy-straightjacket-gif-20619219

[slender juniper]

Ever since I modded my game it says "save file couldn't be read" and I have to use the save states ,am I fucked or is there something I can do?

[light swan]

except for my gif which barely shows any spoilers ig

[smoky bridge]

For soiler reasons?

[light swan]

i odnt think you get anything from me talking about strattacks

[smoky bridge]

Did you makes a backup?

[light swan]

bulbasaurs suck when i was trying to play the game with 0 abilities and had to juke them out with my base moveset

[smoky bridge]

You should always back up your save files.

[raw pawn]

Major MIO spoiler: ||I didn't play the game||

[slender juniper]

No thankfully I have a second copy of the game on the ps5

[fiery burrow]

I like Ori 2 but yeah its a lot better, great map design, more interesting combat, and a similar level of quality to the platforming (which is a good thing)

[smoky bridge]

See this is the first rule of modding anything.
Back. Yo. Saves. Up.

[slender juniper]

Yes I gave TC 40$

[smoky bridge]

Try to revert to a steam cloud save?

[lavish apex]

idk if anybody from this chat that has picked up mio hasn't liked it

[light swan]

monor quit at ||left crucible||

[raw pawn]

Did you know that enemies die when you kill them?

[smoky bridge]

Tnh I was planning to buy it anyways you guys just reminded me.

[lavish apex]

aw :(

[light swan]

but also he hasnt played path of pain or celeste or anything so i think its mostly a difficulty issue

[smoky bridge]

That was the more fun part of it.

I hated the right side a bit tho.

[bold mountain]

It's very fast paced, and after you have most of the movement abilities it becomes very aerial. Very fun I'd highly recommend it

[smoky bridge]

Apparently I struggle to tell clockwise from counter clockwise.

[light swan]

lategame area spoilers

[slender juniper]

I don't really mind that much I bought it on steam just to mod it(I can save with the mod menu) and To Speedrun which I need to do in one take anyways

[smoky bridge]

Ah, oki

Still. Remember our adage.

[light swan]

left side is the funnest platforming in the game for me but i also really really love right side

[slender juniper]

And when SoS releases I'll play it on playstation

[smoky bridge]

#CheekyBloodborneReference.

[fiery burrow]

||Crucible ||was so peak

ror2 type soundtrack

[slender juniper]

Let's just hope the DLC releases at the same time everywhere otherwise that'd be quite sad

[light swan]

ive made it clear before but i enjoy raw gameplay so just because right side has more unique mechanics i dont really care about that if left is funner

[lavish apex]

where you come to die is such an incredible track

[light swan]

left feels like the culmination of the entire game, with more variety and more interesting level design and pacing

[light swan]

its genuinely so good idk how they made the song so fucking sad

top 2 saddest songs in mio

[lavish apex]

i liked left a lot more than right on my second playthrough

[odd hull]

ror2 mentioned 🔥

[smoky bridge]

That one area to the left of ||Vaults|| which requires ||water striders|| made me ragequit twice and turn on ground healing.

[light swan]

uh you dont need that ability to do that area

[bold mountain]

I love ROR2 but man I'm so bad at it for some reason. Even after having played like 50 hours I still rarely make it past the third level.

[smoky bridge]

You could do it purely with dodge shenanigans?

[light swan]

youre supposed to do it with dodge shenanigans lol

[smoky bridge]

That seems like it would suck.

[lavish apex]

it's very hard but yeah

[light swan]

its sprobably easier with that ability but you definitely dont need to

[slender juniper]

...uhh how do I back up my saves anyways?

[smoky bridge]

I did a lot of it with dodge shenanigans. But like. A lot of it was just. To refresh my leggys

[smoky bridge]

cloud save options.

[light swan]

mio lategame spoilers!!!!

[slender juniper]

What is that I just got a computer explain

[fiery burrow]

Yeah it took a long time for me to get goodish at the game

[light swan]

honestly doing it without dodge sneanigans sounds harder tbh

[smoky bridge]

Or outside of steam, find the save files and make a copy of the file. And put it in a folder.

[light swan]

and much more boring

[lavish apex]

you can hairpin the bombs?

[fiery burrow]

ROR2 is also a wiki game

[lavish apex]

how did i not know that

[plain bloom]

okay I'm hearing a lot of good, might try it out.

[light swan]

nop

[smoky bridge]

You can't

[slender juniper]

You mean steam cloud save options?

[light swan]

the way you get into the area in the first pace is LITERALLY with splodge bro

[exotic dome]

it's one of the greatest metroidvanias ever made imo

[lavish apex]

oh that was an energy cell

[smoky bridge]

Yeah that is an option.

[plain bloom]

equal footing to team cherry's efforts?

[slender juniper]

I already use cloud

[smoky bridge]

But for modding you want a local backup
So steam doesn't accidentally download your shagged save.

[exotic cedar]

Some people like it more than tc games

[exotic dome]

i like hk franchise more, but i think it's comparable

[lavish apex]

this

[fiery burrow]

HK games seem to have more content

[smoky bridge]

Just go to %AppData locallow, find the save files from the game, copy them, and slot them Into a special folder somewhere.

[lavish apex]

well idk i might like it more than silksong actually

not sure

[smoky bridge]

You have to enable hidden folders tho.

[plain bloom]

Weird, looking at screen shots and short vids, MIO looks mid... I guess I have to play it to experience it.

[smoky bridge]

"Looks mid"

[slender juniper]

Inside silksong folder?

[fiery burrow]

The quality is on par with HK1 imo (which i like more than SS) so the amount of content is really the only reason I don't it'll beat it

[smoky bridge]

Buh.

[exotic dome]

give it a try

[smoky bridge]

Yeah.

[slender juniper]

Oki

[lavish apex]

yeah also this honestly

[smoky bridge]

It's likely gonna be under team cherry master folder in Locallow

[light swan]

i personally think mio is much better than both silksong and hk but we all know im weird

[slender juniper]

The only thing I'm worried about is that sea of sorrow might release on steam first so I'll have to wait for TC to update the ps version

[smoky bridge]

You can also just... Look up online where Silksong save files are stored :)

[opaque sigil]

nah I agree

[smoky bridge]

Tbh I am starting to enjoy it more.

But it's like... Different style of enjoyment?

[lavish apex]

i mean hk1 is literally my favorite game ever at all this is pretty high praise still

[light swan]

definitely

[slender juniper]

Mio suckass

[light swan]

what about it looks mid btw

its quite legendary (earlygame area)

[slender juniper]

The movement in Mio is terrible,herpin and energy system are horrible game mechanics, the map and lore sucks, has a horrible dodge mechanic

MID

[light swan]

💀

[smoky bridge]

Me when I'm saying shit.

[fiery burrow]

MIO is one letter off from MID. Did Kojima write this?

[exotic cedar]

This would murder my laptop at 3 am

[exotic dome]

(mio final boss spoiler) ||ati || is probably one of the best bossses ive ever fought btw

[light swan]

an even earlier area ig

[light swan]

great! it's the 3rd best boss imo

[smoky bridge]

It's actually really well optimised?

[slender juniper]

When my bait gets so good people react like this

[smoky bridge]

I also thought it will not run.

But it runs and it is a beaut

[lavish apex]

ok so the reason i had such a shit time here is because my brain was too small to use splodge
huh

[exotic cedar]

It coudlnt run on my laptop, couldnt even open the game

[slender juniper]

Silk issue

[light swan]

😭 😭 😭 its not required but the literal way you get here in hte first place is with splodge

and the very first obstacle tells you to use splodge

[lavish apex]

you can also use defrag

[odd hull]

True

[light swan]

oh hell naw

[plain bloom]

it looks like bad design, the wispy hairs doesn't look cool, all the enemies look like the same robots, the levels and the backgrounds look like poor art direction, bland, and boring.

[smoky bridge]

Yeah I also only figured out to do it after rage quitting and coming back next day.

[lavish apex]

what

[smoky bridge]

By Allah, You people are dogs.

[light swan]

is this ragebait mio is the most beautiful game ive ever seen

[strange knot]

You can scream skip second gms phase?

[lavish apex]

it's so pretty?

[plain bloom]

no, legit looks meh to me.

[exotic dome]

i recommend giving a shot

[strange knot]

It’s ok to be wrong and have an awful opinion

[smoky bridge]

Also the tendril design is so cool.

[light swan]

there are no right answers but there are definitely wrong answers

[lavish apex]

i mean hk and silksong are pretty too and arguably have more effort put into the visuals due to being fully 2d animated and the insane parallaxing in silksong especially but mio looks very good

[smoky bridge]

It's ok to have preferences but damn.

[light swan]

like discord compression and my shit recording does not give justice to how beautiful this looks

[vestal patio]

hi everyone very indirect question but where can I find all 3 mossberries xd

[smoky bridge]

The areas are really diverse too.

[lavish apex]

two of them are in the very first area and there's another right below the druid

[light swan]

like are we making shit up at this point (relatively earlygame mio spoilers)

some of these lean more into midgame

[smoky bridge]

Ok so, two are in moss grotto (one requires a later bossfight) one is above Bone Bottom, one is to the right below Moss Guy,and one requires double jump

[light swan]

it looks so much better in motion too

and on an actual high res monitor where you can see the beautiful art and colors and paint and hatching and shit

[vestal patio]

Alr thx you guys for da help!! :D

[smoky bridge]

Fixed K made a mistake bweh

[vestal patio]

I've got 2 now I'm only looking for the last

[strange knot]

Prob my fav screenshot

[smoky bridge]

Did you get the one in Moss cave?

[plain bloom]

i'll wait for a sale

[lavish apex]

haven is like jawdropping

[strange knot]

Yeah

[smoky bridge]

My favourite is too much of a spoiler :(

[light swan]

i cant even send the later game ones cuz spoilers

[lavish apex]

is it ||the egg||

[smoky bridge]

Also I more so like the idea of it, it doesn't look that impressive.

[exotic dome]

same area

[smoky bridge]

||I really like the wheel...||

[lavish apex]

oh yeah that's cool too

[strange knot]

Yep you can get like 30 haven screenshots and they all gonna be beautiful

[smoky bridge]

But it's not visually impressive really. It just has... Gravitas. I feel.

[vestal patio]

I've got one in moss grotto on my first playthrough, and another one from a secret place after Ive gotten the long nail ability (idk what the name was)

[light swan]

LATE GAME MIO SPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSSS

these dark shots are fucking beautiful man

[smoky bridge]

((talking about my fav thing))

[light swan]

the second one just has this sense of scale to it

[smoky bridge]

Currently suffering in the funny place that forces you to get nakey

[cunning geode]

wow that IS dark

[exotic dome]

there is one carried by flies above bone bottom

you can get there from mosshome

[light swan]

i had 100k nacre there and didnt have the mod on that made me not lose nacre on death btw

[light swan]

||being at the bottom of the world, amidst all the failed fingers and experiemnts, staring up into the rest of the world with space peaking through... it's just so peak||

[smoky bridge]

Why would you not bank it

Also not like you need it at some point.

[light swan]

because i cant use crystallized nacre in combat

[smoky bridge]

... Did I miss a mod or smh...

[light swan]

😔

[light swan]

😔

[light swan]

this one is fucking beautiful btw

i have a shot of me getting a period cramp there and its just pure bliss

[smoky bridge]

Almost tempted to show my mod collection. Am missing like 3

[lavish apex]

it was so sick for me on the first run

[crude geyser]

I haven’t checked on the 12th architect for a while

[lavish apex]

i was like holy shit

[crude geyser]

Act 3

[light swan]

i know ppl like grynne first got a hint at it frmo ||a window in observatory|| and i wish i got to see it at first the same way cuz thatd be awesome

i fianlly stumbled upon it and it was exactly like you, just utter holy shit

[smoky bridge]

... NGL I had no major reaction to it. :v

[light swan]

look at these shits ENDGAME MIO SPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[smoky bridge]

I was more enamoured with ||The crucible||

[light swan]

i was enamored with so much of the game

[smoky bridge]

:(
Ack.
Mis my genda.

Anyways.

[lavish apex]

also the (mio ending spoils ig?) ||true ending post credits scene|| is just 🥺 visually

[exotic cedar]

Me clicking every spoiler because it's a habit at this point

[smoky bridge]

Also it took me way too long to realise what Mio is a keeper of. It might have been mentioned in the opening cut scene and I didn't see it.

[copper hedge]

lmao

[smoky bridge]

M... Gimme surprise lace nosk in godhome.

It would be funny. Nobody would expect it.

[copper hedge]

Silk Nosk

[smoky bridge]

Snosk

[copper hedge]

lore heads gonna have a bad time

lol

[light swan]

sorry 😭 im just used to saying man, not trying tpo refer to anyone specifically

[odd hull]

Gimme a good nosk fight in godhome.
It would be funny. Nobody would expect it

[smoky bridge]

I knowe, I'm not particularly upset.

[light swan]

yea.. unfortunately im never gonna send it here cuz its the fuckin ending

[smoky bridge]

Truth

I wish the nosks weren't bad.

[light swan]

regular nosk is fun

[exotic cedar]

Nosk is cool but the fights are mehh

[lavish apex]

yeah obviously

[copper hedge]

Nosks are really cool. theyre skinwalkers of the bug world

[soft sparrow]

I have a question, did any of u guys have the clawline when doing the high hall's gauntlet?

[exotic cedar]

I hate winged nosk though, it's just a fucking vengefly king

[exotic dome]

flying nosk is meh

[smoky bridge]

My only problem with Mio is that one character's name reminds me of a woman whom I hate.

[lavish apex]

you have to, high halls is locked behind clawline

[light swan]

the hype

[exotic cedar]

You need clawline to accces hhg in the first place

[light swan]

asma?

[copper hedge]

lol

[smoky bridge]

And also the occasional "WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FLOOR"

[smoky bridge]

Nah, you would not know the woman I hate :v

[copper hedge]

mb i ate it

[odd hull]

Indeed

[soft sparrow]

So I was just watching some youtubers play and they just don't seem to have it or maybe they're just not using it, but it doesn't make sense cause it would make the gauntlet much easier

[dusty wind]

is the new silksong patch on the xbox pc version of silksong

[copper hedge]

maybe its a challenge thing

or they didnt consider using clawline for combat

[smoky bridge]

Freak girl who sent me stuff I can't even mention here, entirely unprompted, as a "prank" refused to delete it when asked, and when I blocked her, she banned me from the server she was moderating.

[exotic cedar]

Hmm... imo in peoples first playthrough they don't notice that clawline is good in combat

[lavish apex]

a lot of people just don't integrate clawline in combat much on their first playthroughs

[sharp slate]

ill be brutally honest i never used clawlining for combat in my first playthrough besides gms even then not that much

[exotic dome]

i didnt notive it until hhg

[light swan]

i didnt either

[copper hedge]

true

[light swan]

it was a sense of why clawline when i can dash attack

[copper hedge]

i only saw how good it can be when i saw clips from others

[lavish apex]

it makes gauntlets and normal enemies way more fun imo

[smoky bridge]

HHG? Oh, High hall gauntlet.

[light swan]

until i realize that i can always clawline after a dash attack

[soft sparrow]

How do u not though, it makes navigating the room much easier

[copper hedge]

so true. nail damage + dash

[robust flame]

I used it for first sinner but that’s it

[smoky bridge]

Nailmag...

[robust flame]

I wanna use it more on my second play through

[lavish apex]

does this work against shorter enemies with hunter?

[smoky bridge]

It's funny how the game literally hands you a gauntlet after obtaining clawline.

[soft sparrow]

But its literally a gamechanger

[smoky bridge]

To try and teach you.

[light swan]

idk probably

[copper hedge]

tbf it wasnt shown much that it can be used for combat. so far the player is only shown how to navigate with it.

another factor is that they forgot

[smoky bridge]

And people just forget they have it immediately

[smoky bridge]

There is literally a gauntlet with flying enemies directly after obtaining it.

[toxic vigil]

can i just say i hate difficulty scaling in silksong
if you go by how much gear you have at the time, moorwing is harder than lost lace or karmelita

[light swan]

usually i just attack out of hunter dash attack but it depends on the timing of. law line probably but it should be possible

[smoky bridge]

I think it should have had only flying enemies, and be taller.

But that's an aside.

[copper hedge]

yeah, but some would just seem to think its for these kinds of enemies

[light swan]

i was a bit disappointed to find out clawline was only horizontal

[lavish apex]

yeah same but that doesn't hit stuff like the laces and phantom

[smoky bridge]

It is the best against flying enemies, but they also throw in a big guy it works on.

[odd hull]

Moorwing is alright. I don't get the hate

[copper hedge]

tfw you cant do diagonal clawline 😔

[lavish apex]

being able to angle clawline would be really cool

[copper hedge]

finally. actual Hornet moveset

[smoky bridge]

Used to be way harder (double damage projectiles) people got divided into "JUST GIT GUD" and people who got stuck on it. And got really mad.

[toxic vigil]

i mean if you are there with 5 masks and druid's eye as your equipment

[smoky bridge]

Also it is a flying boss with double damage.

[worthy lintel]

Made more progress on Ultimate Chicken Spider

[odd hull]

I know, I played on the first day.

[soft sparrow]

Fair, but damn, like experiment a bit would ya

[smoky bridge]

And flying bosses are commonly annoying for new players

It's weird hitting them without getting bumped.

[copper hedge]

first damage = hit by projectile
second damage = damaged by projectile's attck

wtf

[sharp slate]

This sounds fun af

[smoky bridge]

I mean. It was just a double hit.

[copper hedge]

oh. but sometimes i would usually see it like that

and its really annoying

im ok with 2 damage for something that instantly hits you with it

[toxic vigil]

uch but silksong?

[crude geyser]

2 damages makes the difficulty artificial sometimes

[worthy lintel]

Yup

[toxic vigil]

i mean now its definitely easier but still bad diff curve

like the difficulty curve should never be a constant down.

[odd hull]

I understood. They do have pretty good tells for their attacks

[crude geyser]

Especially early on

[copper hedge]

can we have a drawing of the curve

[toxic vigil]

i mean its not hard for me anymore, but its still harder than karmelita

[smoky bridge]

The flight path of those buggers is downright sadistic.

I still routinely lose steel soul runs to moorwing.

[queen acorn]

i love these little guys

theyre so adorable eyeyaurehuehughhhh

[smoky bridge]

I just am bad at dodging it's projectile attacks

[exotic cedar]

KILL

[copper hedge]

thats why i just skip it til act 2 bc its better to be safe than loose it again

[lavish apex]

moorwing is a good boss

[crude geyser]

Whats your fav boss

[odd hull]

I can't agree. Moorwing is not that bad

[odd hull]

True

[light swan]

i thought it was gonna be a multidirectional hook

[crude geyser]

Idk why but whispfire flame helped a lot during act 2

[toxic vigil]

based on equipment by the time you fight it
you can just skip moorwing and fight it in act 2 or even 3 and then its free

[light swan]

why are you the goat

[toxic vigil]

❌ the tool that misses

[copper hedge]

same 😭
why isnt it possible, tc

[smoky bridge]

Mmmmm...
Soft spot for Cogwork Dancers, but the true final boss.

[crude geyser]

It rarely misses for me

I love cog work dancers too

[copper hedge]

cog work dancers ❤️

[exotic cedar]

cog work dancers 😡

[meager jolt]

Cogwork Dancers are peak omg I love gay people

[odd hull]

I know what you meant, understood the first time. Karmelita still harder, Moorwing isn't — it's slow, has good tells and a big enough arena to keep your distance.

[exotic cedar]

Not a bad fight but could have been better if the middle blade attack did stuff + they actually attacked at you instead of going randomly

[sharp slate]

i hate cogwork dancers, the animations are longer than the fight 😭 (joking mostly)

[exotic cedar]

When i did double clover dancers the attack where they uh? cut the arena was harder and i thknk that's what it should have been orginally

It was actually fun to dodge

[lavish apex]

i think i just incidentally nohit moorwing on one of my playthroughs

[copper hedge]

damn

[sharp slate]

im not gonna lie when i did double clover dancers i was like RANDOM BULLSHIT GO BRRRRR architect crest

[exotic dome]

same

[toxic vigil]

if you are far away you can't hit it..
dodging it isn't hard, its dodging while attacking
unless you want the fight to take 20 mins

[exotic cedar]

I sat on the corner with wanderers :D

I used architect spam on double broodmother though

I do NOT want to remember that shit

[sharp slate]

this was funny

i still havent beaten triple LL i really need to give it another attempt its just so fucking hard

[exotic cedar]

The video being faster makes it funnier

For double palestag i sat on the top platform because i think that's the safest one

[exotic cedar]

Wait how many palestags are there

[sharp slate]

definetely, its kinda like a blind spot way up top

[sharp slate]

4x

[lavish apex]

even double ll sounds like ass

[exotic cedar]

Damn

[sharp slate]

for triple and quad enemies i got to LL

[queen acorn]

heyyy

[exotic cedar]

That's crazy

[sharp slate]

double LL was fun not gonna lie

[queen acorn]

im in a pickle

[sharp slate]

Alpre you should totally do double enemies steel soul (its not pain i swear)

[queen acorn]

i might do this

[exotic cedar]

Cogfly is broken, like it runs fine but i swear i cannot use my normal attacks

I play a lot dead cells now idk if im able to come back to silksong

[sharp slate]

Go get a craft metal and fix it

[queen acorn]

nvm pickle over

i was stuck in a rando in the clawline room

[lavish apex]

you just get frametrapped

unless you can react with cross stitch fast enough

[sharp slate]

its fair there are a few bullshit things, but thats to be expected, its a very aerial fight tbh, spent most time in the air

[queen acorn]

rando js fuckin crashed

[exotic cedar]

I pogoed a lot when i attempted double ll

[odd hull]

? Keep your distance only when needed. You have a bunch of space to move freely, dodge and get better positions to attack (behind or even below Moorwing). Even while they attack you can still hit them with silkspear.

[sharp slate]

im so proud of this phase 4

[civic island]

Is it modded or is it really two laces?

[sharp slate]

double enemies mod

[civic island]

Ah alr

[strange knot]

Lwk ima do an any% run rn

[queen acorn]

forever hilarious that lace js gets fucking d dark

[crude geyser]

Lost lace was easier than grey prince Zote

[strange knot]

Truth

[civic island]

I dont find whats so hard about her honestly

I havent fought her yet though so we will see

[sharp slate]

The dash attack fucked me up so much in my first playthrough

[queen acorn]

yep

[crude geyser]

Like, have any of y’all gotten the gold statue from Zote

[strange knot]

Gpz ruined too much of my p5 runs

[sharp slate]

if that dash attack didnt exist i would have beat LL first try i think

[crude geyser]

It was hell

[lavish apex]

i don't get why people struggle with gpz so much

[sharp slate]

random bullshit go and ad management i guess

[crude geyser]

My proudest achievement

[sharp slate]

overlapping explosive attack with another attack is also annoying

[lavish apex]

i don't think i ever have
even radiant wasn't super hard, you just gotta learn ddark timings

[queen acorn]

dude ur takes are ass ngl

[sharp slate]

gpz is probably one of my worst hitless bosses for r5 (though nerves is certainly a thing as well)

[civic island]

Oh shit i understand what it says

My lessons are laying off ig

[sharp slate]

shiny

[crude geyser]

He is so unpredictable and he can one shot you at the end

[queen acorn]

yep

mfs do lost lace ONCE and suddenly every boss was nothing

[crude geyser]

Like at least lost lace doesnt one shot

[lavish apex]

wym 1shot you at the end

[queen acorn]

uh

[crude geyser]

If you do the fight over and over again he gets stronger

[gusty igloo]

hi

[lavish apex]

oh that

[crude geyser]

At one point he deals like 10 mask of damages

[civic island]

Ive never been a pro at the games so ive never tried zote

[exotic cedar]

Hello

[crude geyser]

Lost lace doesnt do that

[exotic cedar]

Gpz is the best tc boss.

[lavish apex]

i mean that's just. an optional challenge though lol

[civic island]

I think i haven't really unlocked him in dirtmouth

[queen acorn]

still harder

[crude geyser]

Lost lace too technically

[lavish apex]

it's not an inherent mechanic of the fight

[crude geyser]

Act 3 is optional

[queen acorn]

shhh cope cope

[crude geyser]

So far most act 3 bosses have been gems tbh

[gusty igloo]

gpz aint hard

[civic island]

I likey the karmelita one

[lavish apex]

completing act 3 is entirely different from scaling gpz up to radiant damage lol

[queen acorn]

DUDE

[exotic cedar]

Karmelita and uhhh i forgor

Coral tower is fire

[civic island]

The coral tower one

Is also fun

[exotic cedar]

Khann is fine not mindblowing but fine

[gusty igloo]

people who say gpz is hard dont even play with the scaled damage they just stuggle with him in the pantheons lol

[crude geyser]

I liked bell eater bc I got hyped at the end

[queen acorn]

true

[lavish apex]

well apparently these people do

[queen acorn]

dude shut up

[crude geyser]

Lost garmond was mixed tho

[queen acorn]

oooo look at me i did lost lace suddenly every boss is nothing

[exotic cedar]

Lost garmond is kinda ahh

[queen acorn]

ik ur ass struggled on him like everyone

[lavish apex]

i don't think counting that as an inherent part of the base challenge of the fight is fair at all, you're just going like yeah i wanna no hit this

[crude geyser]

So far my biggest struggle was BY FAR the unravelled

[lavish apex]

which tbf i can definitely understand how gpz would be a harder nohit than lost lace

[crude geyser]

Followed by chef lugoni

[gusty igloo]

gpz is fine difficulty but its not too hard lol

[exotic cedar]

I don't remember my experiences with most silksong bosses, they werent really memorable for me

[crude geyser]

Do you have his golden statue

[gusty igloo]

people always exxagurate gpz's diffculty

[queen acorn]

oh you have GOT to be shitting me

[lavish apex]

if you ban ddark i'd imagine that would be a nightmare even though he has far less health

[sharp slate]

Standouts for me were like 5 of them, widow, judge, first sinner, karm, LL

[crude geyser]

That’s what someone who hasn’t beaten it in his last stage would say

[leaden delta]

Oh ily gpz

[crude geyser]

Tbh my real biggest struggle was NKG

[gusty igloo]

again im talking bout the pantheon gpz cause nobody is playing the scaled version

[sharp slate]

sly was honestly my struggled boss in hk funnily enough idk why (at least for godhome)

[lavish apex]

i have beaten him on radiant which is harder than last stage unless he also gets health buffs there

[queen acorn]

did i js get baited

[lavish apex]

and i think his difficulty is a bit exaggerated

[gusty igloo]

i hadnt beaten it but i was close to doing it in radiant so thats basically the same thing

[exotic cedar]

For me it was widow, judge and karm
Also second sentinel lmao, idk why i struggled with them (maybe it was because of my low needle level)

[gusty igloo]

radiant and last stage are on par

[queen acorn]

i fuckin hate silksong bro

[exotic cedar]

When i struggle with a boss it becomes a standout for me

[crude geyser]

Yeah pantheon version is easy

[queen acorn]

HE DOESNT HAVE COLLISION???

[crude geyser]

Im talking the one where he deals 10 mask of damages lol

[gusty igloo]

who

[crude geyser]

I essentially had to no hit ftw

[gusty igloo]

thats basically just radianting him

so compare him to other radiant bosses

[lavish apex]

all bindings gpz is probably nightmarish

that i will grant for sure

[sharp slate]

ab gpz is annoying, gotta shriek minions imo otherwise its like 3 hits

[exotic cedar]

All bindings gpz was my main fucking killer of p3ab

[gusty igloo]

abr collector

[exotic cedar]

He pissed me off so bad

[gusty igloo]

[exotic cedar]

Gpz ab is harder than p4ab imo

[gusty igloo]

i hadnt played with bindings except for like p1

[exotic cedar]

P4 bosses give a lot of time to heal except pv

[queen acorn]

the floating

FUCK YEAH GUATLENT DNE

im FREE

[gusty igloo]

who is "the floating"

[exotic cedar]

Why is he doing that

[gusty igloo]

diving

[exotic cedar]

Ohh

[queen acorn]

yep

[exotic cedar]

He looks like a pretty princess

[queen acorn]

true!

[strange knot]

I’m so washed for some reason

[queen acorn]

true

[strange knot]

Wait I’m actually not that bad

2:42 moss groto is pretty good

[exotic cedar]

Did you stopped playing for some time?

[potent dagger]

Guys, so what gender is Sherma?

[exotic cedar]

Male

[strange knot]

Yeah I was playing Celeste for a while

[exotic cedar]

Celeste too painful for me

[potent dagger]

Ok, sub

[sharp slate]

Sherma gendered

[sharp slate]

I haven't played celeste in so long tbh, i was hunting goldens a long time ago but gave up

[strange knot]

I might be the dumbest person alive ngl

[exotic cedar]

I stopped at 5a (is that what it's called?)

[subtle lynx]

I'm doing a sub 30hr 100% play through and I have to grind 4000 rosaries to buy everything in act 2🤣

[exotic cedar]

I got lost

[potent dagger]

As I understand it, Silksong has ending where Hornet saves Lace and meets the knight.

Does this mean that HK and Skong have canon end?

[timid valve]

what's hc

[strange knot]

We love grinding! /s

[potent dagger]

Hk*

[stable mica]

yeah

[timid valve]

yeah, probably

[sharp slate]

welcome to why i say skong has a rosary problem

just put more relics in the game TC 😭

[stable mica]

nuh uh

[lavish apex]

it's hard to call it a problem when it's clearly intentional design but it also isn't fun

[stable mica]

i like the rosary problem

[sharp slate]

Intentional design that leads to bad gameplay is a problem imo xD

[stable mica]

as a design choice

[exotic cedar]

I hate it

[sharp slate]

It being a design choice doesnt make it immune to being a problem

[timid valve]

A lot of people wait for Zote to be in the Sea of Sorrow DLC.
They don't understand that Zote would have to be at least a semigod to survive so long without aging.

[stable mica]

the Pharloom is meant to be broken from the start

[lavish apex]

i'm pretty sure that you can actually buy out every act without grinding but the problem is that grinding is faster LMAO

[exotic cedar]

He is a semigod though

[sharp slate]

Radiance orbs being the same color as the background is a design choice it is still a problem

[stable mica]

Hallownest has a much better economy

[exotic cedar]

Sorry i meant god and creator of life

[timid valve]

We gotta suffer

[sharp slate]

sadly not if you are going for 100% you need to grind, or at least cant run past enemies

[light swan]

greyroot is zotes mom

[lavish apex]

and this also mandates like every wish, relic, and rosary stash/string you can find

[cerulean sable]

remidner

SotV credits theme sitll makeisn sme cryyy

[cerulean sable]

wheen the violin goers tuununnnunuuununnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[timid valve]

what is "Alumni"

[stable mica]

isnt HK the same? and every single game

[cerulean sable]

retired mod

[timid valve]

So a fired mod?

[sharp slate]

nope hk has a TON of relics if you collect them you can afford alot, plus the boss geo chests are alot more common

[cerulean sable]

no i voluntarily went down

cuz

[sharp slate]

also i think arena enemies drop geo in hk? (besides colo)

[timid valve]

Ah k

[cerulean sable]

life happened and i got actual work

[stable mica]

3 arcane eggs

[lavish apex]

is this for current patch or release?

[cerulean sable]

fired mods afaik just get ejected 🥴

[stable mica]

yea

[exotic cedar]

They give a lot of money

[sharp slate]

hallownest crests are the main money maker tbh

you can access them very early game (5 after claw very easily)

[exotic cedar]

Lemm is the goat of hk universe

[lavish apex]

lemm is my goat

[sharp slate]

For hk bingo relics are used as a money source usually

[daring basin]

When you sell your siblings old birth egg cuz you lowk need that hot tub in your Bellhome

[stable mica]

colo 2 is too good

[exotic cedar]

Relics also helped alot in my speedrun file

[strange knot]

wtf I’m goated I first tried Beastfly skip

[stable mica]

so they didnt add a colo to Skong

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-lebron-dunk-lebron-james-meme-lebron-meme-gif-15413171005508984772

[subtle lynx]

Nah it is my fault, I'm basically skipping every enemy and since I'm where to go, I can go through the most optimal routes, meaning I also end up skipping some enemies that way

[timid valve]

Sibling is gonna get mad

[lavish apex]

i love how if you find most relics in hk1 and don't double die you end up with enough money to not only buy out sly, iselda/cornifer, nail upgrades, and the geo fountain but also unbreakable strength and still have like 5k left over

[subtle lynx]

In my normal playthroughs, I end up with extra rosaries

[sharp slate]

my first playthrough i think i only need to grind for optional stuff, but in my 100% it was brutal

Debug mod + 10k rosaries go brrrr (for my challenge runs like double enemies)

[kindred willow]

Guys

Is it weird that I struggled against two Moss Mothers

[timid valve]

In my playthroughs, I grind for money, and sell relics after having bought everything anyways :/

[exotic cedar]

%100 in hk is much more fun than %100 sk

[subtle lynx]

On your 100% playthrough (if you mean also mementos) you should have extra rosaries thanks to the journal

[daring basin]

“I took you out of the abyss and I’ll drag you right back in”

[sharp slate]

i mean the 100% achievement

[lavish apex]

truke

[subtle lynx]

Nah I disagree

Simply because silksong is a more fun game

[sharp slate]

i think 100% hk is better just because of the tedium of getting into act 3

it feels like bashing my head into a wall to access act 3 every playthrough

[timid valve]

I feel bad for "betraying" hk for ss

[strange knot]

LMFAO I CHOSE THE WRONG SAVE FILE AFTER SAVEQUITTING😭

[subtle lynx]

I don't find it tedious, besides, you would already have done all that stuff since you're going for 100%

[light swan]

💀 💀

[kindred willow]

I found some of the Act 3 wishes boring NGL

[sharp slate]

rip time loss, thats more time save for later

[kindred willow]

Idk if that is a hot take

[exotic cedar]

Also sk has stuff is more hidden, like someone getting quicksling on their first playthrough without any help is very rare

[subtle lynx]

Lot of act 3 stuff is optional

[trim estuary]

100% in Hollow Knight is more fun because it’s non-linear, unlike Silksong

[timid valve]

Yaay I'm rare

[subtle lynx]

???

Why, it is very easy to spot

[sharp slate]

nah

[kindred willow]

Yeah and I love the main Act 3 stuff but I don't like some of the wishes like the rare foods one

[exotic cedar]

Sorry i don't like items locked behind some random breakble shit

[subtle lynx]

Then go play some other game lol

[exotic cedar]

I wanna play while looking at the atmosphere not playing while hitting every wall

[subtle lynx]

This is hollow knight

[exotic cedar]

Im doing that, and it's very fun

[kindred willow]

I liked Silksong more as a whole, but filling in the last few cracks to get to 100% was more painful in Silksong

[sharp slate]

yea please tell me that this wood that is scattered across bilewater is breakable xD

[kindred willow]

So I will admit that Hollow Knight wins in that respect

[subtle lynx]

Hollow knight hid a nail upgrade and a boss behind a random wall

[sharp slate]

skong hidden walls are so much more brutal imo

some are much harder to see

[timid valve]

What's everyone's favourite wishes?

My is kinda... uhh... Rite of Rebirth

[sharp slate]

not to mention this fucker

[exotic cedar]

Great taste of pharloom

[subtle lynx]

The only stuff I didn't find naturally on my first playthrough are some tools and some fleas which you can buy a map for either eay

[sharp slate]

great taste of pharloom as well

[odd hull]

True

[exotic dome]

nail upgrades are handled better in silksong tbh

[odd hull]

Great Taste of Pharloom is funny

[timid valve]

Many gourmets here XD

[subtle lynx]

And wisp thicket

[timid valve]

I can relate. It's #2 for me

[minor sparrow]

Oh nosk

[subtle lynx]

Yes

[sharp slate]

i misked a few things, i dont remeber what exactly, mostly from these damned walls that dont have cracks in them or are just invis ceilings you gotta jump through

wisp thicket passage is cruel

[stable mica]

memorium ceiling is impossible with out that wish fr

[exotic cedar]

Nuu hints wisp thicket i think? But i don't saw her talk about it during my playthroughs

[minor sparrow]

Isn't it part of that fan platforming section in greymoor?

[light swan]

wispfire cloak when

[strange knot]

Omg I got such an awful dash arena

[sharp slate]

definetely

[exotic cedar]

Putrified ducts is pretty hidden unless you do jublianas quest where you find her

[exotic dome]

my least favorite one is the memorium ceiling

[exotic cedar]

Twisted bud is also pretty hidden

[sharp slate]

you can easily run past it but yea to get a flea you need to go past it

[light swan]

my least favorite one is slab because fuck the slab i spent hours crashing out over it

[sharp slate]

its like an L shaped room

[light swan]

i agree

[subtle lynx]

Yeah, so there's no issue with that