sk-discussion

[fervent yew]

was washing my hands

[fervent yew]

dice is goated asf

[glass mortar]

fr

[fervent yew]

let me send my build

let me just turn on my oc rq

[steep wadi]

id put volt filament in place of multibinder
do you not have volt filament yet?

[slender juniper]

Destroyed bell beast in my shaman only run

[glass mortar]

nah

[slender juniper]

I did the phase skip

[glass mortar]

dont know how to get

[slender juniper]

Sands of karak

[steep wadi]

very top of karak theres a sub-area

[timid sky]

My build is hunter, injector and dice vesticrest, silk spear / pale nails, plasmium and flint for red, multi and longclaw for blue, grip and anklets for yellow

[glass mortar]

oooh

[solid viper]

HELP WHY IS TEAM CHERRY EVIL

[steep wadi]

respectable build

[slender juniper]

Magma bell

Next question

[glass mortar]

ima just stream and see if streaming luck will come to me

[solid viper]

Wisp thicket is a war crime

[timid sky]

You can get there via either silk soar or a precise double jump + clawline

[slender juniper]

Is pre patch saw circlet better than new saw circlet

[slim knoll]

Anyone else get an update today

[slender juniper]

Yes

[slim knoll]

What was it for

[steep wadi]

magma bell:

[slender juniper]

Infinite silk soar and no tool pogos

[solid viper]

Is that just the answer to all of my problems at this point

[slender juniper]

Yes

[normal bramble]

Yes

[solid viper]

Ok

[steep wadi]

its the answer to any problems you have with fire yeah

[slender juniper]

What's gonna be the hardest boss for a shaman only run

[hushed girder]

I might do it but I play on Xbox though, I know I can do that but idk how it works

[glass mortar]

aigh ]

[fervent yew]

wtf are my airpods doing

there finally

[hushed girder]

Getting older. Like mine

[glass mortar]

im on 7fp

[hushed girder]

It’s falling apart

[glass mortar]

s @slender juniper

[fervent yew]

lol yeah git them when the maxes first got out

[steep wadi]

shaman's a pretty strong crest
idk how much trouble youll have tbh
i guess early game is a bit tough since you dont have many spells available

[glass mortar]

helppppp

[slender juniper]

Holy 5fps gaming

[glass mortar]

ima try seth 5 fps

[solid viper]

Why is the ventrica symbol the same as the greymoor elevator sign

[steep wadi]

hell on earth

[slender juniper]

I used hunter for him idk how good hunter is

Guys join VC for luck

[hushed girder]

I can’t join cause of roles

[glass mortar]

wait donttt

[steep wadi]

awakened hunter is one of the strongest crests in the game (if you can avoid getting hit)

[glass mortar]

my fpsss

lemme turn down some suff##

[glass mortar]

my potato laptop

[steep wadi]

ur getting 5 fps and ur streaming?
stop streaming lmao

[glass mortar]

yeah true

i have 12 fps while sreaming and when kind monor joined somehow got 5

what has happend

[slender juniper]

How do I activate pantheon of pharloom

[solid viper]

The broiled one

[glass mortar]

now i got 40 fps

[slender juniper]

I just got mods help

[hushed girder]

I didn’t even 100% my first file but I’m crazy enough to try to on steel soul

What’s wrong with me

[glass mortar]

wow

[fervent yew]

logged into my pc hi what's up

[steep wadi]

well 100% is really just a bunch of fetch quests tbh

[hushed girder]

I had the quest done, it was fun though, it was getting the rest of the tools for me to say nah

[steep wadi]

fair enough
which ones you missing?

[solid viper]

I FOUND THE MIST

[hushed girder]

I gotta check

[slender juniper]

How do I use pantheon of pharloom

[fervent yew]

screenshot of mine

[slender juniper]

I have it installed but it's not doing anything

[solid viper]

I love the music in this game

[steep wadi]

google is your friend

[hushed girder]

Can’t go in specifics but most of the blue ones and weapons

[hushed girder]

I missed two silk skills

[slender juniper]

No.tell me rn

[timid sky]

Is that x with a tutu on your pfp

[slender juniper]

You're my Google

[steep wadi]

i DONT KNOW I DONT PLAY MODDED

[solid viper]

I keep hallucinating it in real life

[solid viper]

Yes I drew it

[hushed girder]

Never gotten the purple cog fly I’m gonna cry

[timid sky]

Cool

[steep wadi]

coral tower was piss easy im ngl

[glass mortar]

YESS I BEAT HIM

[fervent yew]

best friend is google because i haven't used pantheon of pharloom

[glass mortar]

THANK YOU WANDERER AND CROS STICH

[steep wadi]

cross stitch my beloved

[fervent yew]

yeah lowk was just got sick of the ongoing gauntlets and enemies tht deleted the floor

[hushed girder]

I ended the game with Shakra’s weapon, cog fly and a extra bind thing

[solid viper]

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT WHAT WHAT JUST HAPPENED WHY IS THIS ALLOWED THE MIST IS EVIL WHAT

[glass mortar]

ez.... right?

[steep wadi]

fair enough
khann was a pushover though

[fervent yew]

yeah

[glass mortar]

too easy

[hushed girder]

Eh

[fervent yew]

ez deffo ez

[steep wadi]

nyleth is Fine i think

[hushed girder]

I’m gonna get through greymoor now wish me luck

[glass mortar]

i think i can pull off one mask hopefully

[hushed girder]

The damn scissors dudes are the most annoying dudes

[fervent yew]

don't worry if you die you won't go back to the god forsaken bench miles away

[steep wadi]

youll be at full when you enter the memory dw
its like dream bosses

[glass mortar]

ik ik

architects dream

[fervent yew]

yeah exactly like dream bosses

let me send my build rq

[hushed girder]

Steel soul is about doing all the side quest first

[fervent yew]

fuck the stuff i did on my macbook aren't uploaded to the clud

one second let me trek and grab out my macbook

[steep wadi]

honestly my fear with doing steel soul isnt even about dying to bosses
its dying to a random fodder enemy lmao

[steep wadi]

good luck

[hushed girder]

You are literally me

Look at my messages and the videos I sent in the last two three days

[fervent yew]

it'll be easy like putting peanut butter on bread

[steep wadi]

ur braver than i am my ass aint ever even TOUCHING steel soul lmao

[glass mortar]

i did 700 dmg without trying

i fele confident for once in my 100h of playing

[fervent yew]

yeah

[steep wadi]

you have healthbar mod?

[fervent yew]

here's mine

[hushed girder]

It’s not that bad bro

[glass mortar]

yeah

[steep wadi]

nah
my ass could never lmao

[hushed girder]

I put 52 hours in my first file

[hushed girder]

Do the first game it’s way easier

[spice cargo]

when does hunters get better than wanderers crest

[solid viper]

This game is evil

[steep wadi]

meh
feel like the suspense of not knowing adds to the experience imo
you do you though ig

[steep wadi]

when you awaken it

[glass mortar]

saw ooth circulet is actually great for all heart bosses i realised now

[steep wadi]

im good lol

[glass mortar]

it calms my fear of being 1 hi away

[fervent yew]

once you get needolin go to the station to the far right of moss place and meet whatever her name was there

[hushed girder]

Alright, well. I gotta grind money now

[loud junco]

NO WAY I just beat the three rooms in Coral Tower

[glass mortar]

eva

[fervent yew]

yeah eva

[glass mortar]

w

[spice cargo]

is flea brew worth using

[loud junco]

it was easy, idk why I was struggling

I heard that there is a skip, I don't want to fight that boss

[fervent yew]

better than me i'm not even done with the game yet. i have a really bad problem and i HAVE to complete the whole game before i win or else i get pissed at myself

[hushed girder]

I’m trying to get my first mask before I fight the greymoor boss

I remember dying so bad to it

[fervent yew]

haha thank you.. :3 still have to beat lost lace

[solid viper]

Just looked at the silksong map website. Why is there not a single bench in the mist

[fervent yew]

daaamn you must be some god at hk then

[steep wadi]

cuz the mist is an area you only ever go to once
and its like 5 rooms total

[loud junco]

now it's time for the boss

[steep wadi]

meh
im not really all that good tbh

[fervent yew]

200 hours is nuts

[steep wadi]

are the two missing the speedrun ones or the steel soul ones?

[still osprey]

I still have 200 more in og hk

[still osprey]

the steel soul ones cuz I don't want to play steel soul

[hushed girder]

Nevermind, they are EZZZ

[steep wadi]

fair enough lmao
neither do i

[still osprey]

and I have 2.5k more on Celeste

[fervent yew]

i have like 40 hours in the og game xDD silksong was my introduction. i wanted to test it out because oh my god how can a game crash steam on launch day?

[sharp wharf]

....

[sharp wharf]

Fr that was amazing

[fervent yew]

real aagh kinda thankful i played silksong before though

[still osprey]

I've seen a number of people start out by playing silksong

[inland sparrow]

Hello

[steep wadi]

crine

[glass mortar]

steam so mean he goa call me out

[still osprey]

it's really cool tbh

[sharp wharf]

Hearing that is what got me into hk and silksong

[fervent yew]

yeah, definitely made me better at hk tho xDD

[steep wadi]

thats not the best idea lol
silksong was definitely harder

[sharp wharf]

Yeah

By a crap ton

[fervent yew]

might not be a good idea but

it definitely made me better at both games

[silk monolith]

it feels amazing tho

[inland sparrow]

Whats the two achivements you need? is it the steal soul ones?

[steep wadi]

im really the type to just 100% one save file and stop playing tbh

[glass mortar]

how am i supposed to go against her with no ground

[sharp wharf]

I love how silksong feels compared to hk

[fervent yew]

xDD

[steep wadi]

pogo her

[fervent yew]

woah is that a new banner for HK? that looks amazing

[glass mortar]

so hard tho

[sharp wharf]

Yeah

[weak depot]

You cant get all achievements on a singular save file

[fervent yew]

yeha spam pogo her lmao nyleth will get crumbled if you do

[steep wadi]

silk issue

[still osprey]

yea the steel soul ones

[inland sparrow]

Fair

[steep wadi]

ik thats why i dont have all achievements

[still osprey]

clawline wings and pogo

[stark whale]

I FINALLY DID IT

[stark whale]

I BEAT GROAL THE GREAT

TIME FOR ACT 3

[sharp wharf]

Huzzzaaaahhhh

[inland sparrow]

Good job:D

[weak depot]

I have 4 files all 112% lmao

2 normal 2 steel soul

[fervent yew]

well here's my build

[void moat]

https://giphy.com/gifs/chicken-meditating-meme-KvE3WjHFLNsf3Cp1PS

[glass mortar]

one way to show off when showing save files

[steep wadi]

cool
i have one file 112%

[still osprey]

I have gotten 112% in hk so many times now

like for a time period I would finish a 112% save file and immediately start a new one

[weak depot]

I absolutely love the repeatability of hk

[vast bolt]

WE LIVE IN A CITADEL
PILGRIMS RISE UP

[still osprey]

kinda like how I am doing that with silksong rn

[glass mortar]

average under works protest

[steep wadi]

idk im just not really the type to play a game more than once

[storm bone]

I GOT LOST LACE TO 5 HEALTH

[solid viper]

Can you even kill the mist ghosts

[vast bolt]

Plus the dreg workers.

[storm bone]

FIVE
😭

[weak depot]

Yes

[steep wadi]

you can

[inland sparrow]

Same but I wanted to get every achivement

[inland sparrow]

yeah

[hushed girder]

Almost died, I need to be quiet

[fervent yew]

any recommendations for coughcough palestag

[still osprey]

voltvessel bolas throw them in the water

[sharp wharf]

Clawline a lot

[steep wadi]

fair enough lol
idk i really dont mind not having the second branch achievements + speedrun and steel soul arent really for me

[fervent yew]

mmm smart

[steep wadi]

palestag is noeyes 2

[fervent yew]

palestag is my worst sworn enemy

[inland sparrow]

palestag is so boring to fight imo

[steep wadi]

ngl i died to palestag more times than i died to clover dancers

[fervent yew]

it's stupid fast and sprints away at any given chance

[hushed girder]

Guys, remind me what chapel of the reaper has

Is there a boss there

[fervent yew]

clover dancers seem somewhat easy afterall they're just cogwork dancers

[inland sparrow]

no

[steep wadi]

reaper crest and a small gauntlet
not worth it imo

[hushed girder]

I still need it for 100%

[ionic stump]

Will sea of sorrow reference zoteboat? Or quirell submarine?

[fervent yew]

reaper crest is a good beginning crest but definitely not good in the endgame

[solid viper]

I'm going to explode

[inland sparrow]

true they are very easy

[steep wadi]

fair enough

[inland sparrow]

I did all of act 3 and 2 with reapers crest and I have no idea why

[hushed girder]

Thanks for the info, I need a mask before this boss

[fervent yew]

damn that's impressive phantom

[ionic stump]

I was wrong about beast it's good crest

[steep wadi]

crine

[fervent yew]

beast down pogo is ass bro

😔😔

[steep wadi]

wanderers is available earlier and is just better

[ionic stump]

Beast pogo can be used as second dash

[fervent yew]

mmm true

[still osprey]

it's not that bad it's just a second clawline

you just need to get the hang of it

[ionic stump]

Don't you need a key for wanderer?

[still osprey]

Architect pogo is much worse

[solid viper]

WAS THAT A GLITCH OR CAN I ACTUALLY JUST NOT HEAL IN THE MIST

[ionic stump]

True

[fervent yew]

nah, atleast i don't think so

[ionic stump]

The delay always gets me

[inland sparrow]

I HATE ARCHITECTS POGO

[solid viper]

explodes

[ionic stump]

Best pogo is probably wanderer or witch

[glass mortar]

....

[still osprey]

Witch sucks for platforming tho

[ionic stump]

I personally also like hunter pogo

[still osprey]

Hunter is the best pogo by far

[inland sparrow]

I main hunter now just cause I like the pogo the most

[still osprey]

if you can't get used to a 45 degree angle before reaching greymoor, that's on you

[hushed girder]

The two scissors dude are like the two dude at the path of pain at the end.

[small granite]

reaper is also the best to be fair

[fallow sorrel]

Is steam trolling or did SoS shadow drop

[spice cargo]

toure tripping

[ionic stump]

But the worst one is either beast or architect

[fervent yew]

i was pretty good with the pogo in the first half of act 1 lol

[inland sparrow]

steam trolling

[spice cargo]

yeah now youre tripping

[fallow sorrel]

FUH

[ionic stump]

Was talking about pogo's

[steep wadi]

hunters pogo is good, i just like how FAST wanderer pogo comes out

[inland sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1418632125263118468/1464750868003029032/attachment.gif

[fervent yew]

shaman heal is ass i prefer to use shaman during the fleagames

[still osprey]

Reaper pogo is not good it has a big hitbox but that's all the positives it has

[spice cargo]

oh

[ionic stump]

Crest wise I like beast

Witch not so much but ok

[solid viper]

But genuinely why can't you heal in the mist

[void moat]

albert and einstein

[fallow sorrel]

Is there a crest randomiser mod so you start with smth random

[fervent yew]

reaper pogo is good when you're first learning how to pogo but it drags you down in the endgame

[small granite]

not really

[ionic stump]

I O only know the crest selection mod

[still osprey]

if I had to rank specifically the pogos it would probably be smth like,

Hunter >> Wanderer > Shaman > Beast > Witch >= Reaper >> Architect

[glass mortar]

NOOO SHE WAS AT 89 HP

[fervent yew]

wanderer pogo is great while you're exploring but it isn't great during combat

[hushed girder]

Lowkey… I never used reaper crest

[steep wadi]

yeah
id put wanderer above hunter but

[hushed girder]

Can I still heal

[leaden delta]

witch pogo so low?????????

[ionic stump]

The fact that you put beast upper than reaper

[still osprey]

Architect's pogo is genuinely so ass like can I be so fr who thought of this

[hushed girder]

It takes silk which is nice but if I can’t heal it’s a problem

[fervent yew]

witch pogo double damages the enemy

[steep wadi]

i beg to differ tbh

[still osprey]

yea and each hit deals half needle damage so it's equal to 1 hit

[ionic stump]

Nah it's like hollow knight pogo

But you need to time it

[slender juniper]

When you die to voided beastfly in symphony of the judge so you bring out hunter and saw circlet

[inland sparrow]

Tbh I dont main wander cause it makes the game way more easier

[still osprey]

witch pogo is good in combat but it's bad for platforming and that brings it pretty down for me

[fervent yew]

yeah true lowkey it's good when it's last minute and you have to bounce above the enemy to not get damaged

[slender juniper]

But wow the new pantheon mod looks good

[fervent yew]

okay gonna try and beat palestag

[void moat]

crab crest and buffed pollip pouch, you mean?

[chrome lynx]

It's not actually bad for platforming, it just isn't easy

Which

Skill issue

[ionic stump]

I just use hunter bc i was too lazy to change crest so I downloaded a mod that changes the starter crest to try more

[slender juniper]

The what crest

[ionic stump]

For instance I know try beast and i was wrong about it

[still osprey]

no it's pretty bad, it triggers on the second hit which makes it feel very awkward to use

[slender juniper]

Polio pouch suckass

True me

Rn all of you

[still osprey]

Also witch and architect pogos suck balls against father of the flame

[ionic stump]

I think you hate reaper i am not sure

[slender juniper]

@void moat please my message is kinda trueless

[still osprey]

I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who mains witch or architect and tried to fight FotF with them

[ionic stump]

Also I learnt that you can use forth chorus rock against second savage beastfly

[ionic stump]

The drill exists luckily

[glass mortar]

NOOOO guys guess what ]:

[ionic stump]

Poor chat died again

[glass mortar]

hehe

[ionic stump]

Plant lady ded

[steep wadi]

neato

[hushed girder]

Greymoor boss time. First time in steel soul

[ionic stump]

Idk i just killed all of them even though i only need 3

[inland sparrow]

I believe in you

[steep wadi]

keep in mind you CAN just leave if you get low

[ionic stump]

Gl

[glass mortar]

uhhh friendo luck

[steep wadi]

the arena is not closed for moorwing

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-cat-banana-hungry-void-cat-gif-16626119171143575104

[hushed girder]

Oh that’s useful

[ionic stump]

You can skip by collecting fleas but it's not fun

[hushed girder]

What certain spot doesn’t trigger his attack?

[reef urchin]

I must make a grave confession...

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[hushed girder]

Do I gotta run out the room?

[reef urchin]

I like silksong a lot

[ionic stump]

Bilewater trobbio

[reef urchin]

unfortunately...

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-log-off-andy-gif-4810443948518661584

[reef urchin]

[ionic stump]

Shaw woman

[exotic dome]

you can't. we despise silksong here

[ionic stump]

Can't wait for sea of sorrow to include zoteboat reference and quirell being alive on his submarine

[inland sparrow]

sorry buddy but quirell is dead

[reef urchin]

aight I'll see myself out then

[glass mortar]

red memory wtf?

[ionic stump]

He isn't he is a good swimmer

Me coping

[steep wadi]

heh

[hushed girder]

I did it guys

[ionic stump]

Nice

[hushed girder]

Ez

[steep wadi]

gg

[ionic stump]

Now go fight burnt croissant

With no upgrades

[reef urchin]

y'know i never liked quirrel, good riddance!
-# /JOKE, I LOVE RAGEBAITING HK AND SS PEOPLE QUIRREL IS ACTUALLY A GOOD CHARACTER DON'T ATTACK ME PLS

[hushed girder]

I spammed the greymoor move

Got hit like twice that was it

[ionic stump]

Thread storm

[exotic cedar]

Your crucification is tomorrow

[steep wadi]

quirrel slander will not be tolerated

[ionic stump]

Still good after the nerf

[minor widget]

hiya guys

[inland sparrow]

hello

[reef urchin]

hii! ^^

[steep wadi]

howdy

[ionic stump]

Why is savage beastfly so peak?

[minor widget]

sure it is

[steep wadi]

c-tier boss ngl
forgettable

[ionic stump]

Especially it's summon attack it's my favourite

[boreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

[glass mortar]

this feeling fimiliar

[boreal berry]

That’s so real ngl 😭🙏

[ionic stump]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-broke-silksong-hornet-poor-shaw-gif-2887891468037019861

[steep wadi]

savage beastfly summons vs one (1) cross stitch

[inland sparrow]

Lol

[steep wadi]

"im broke" 🔥 🔥

[reef urchin]

YA LIKE GRINDING HALL OF GODS WELL WHY DON'T YOU FIGHT FRIGGIN FLYING ASCENDED COLLECTOR
-savage beastfly probably :)

[odd hull]

Red memory is so peak

[steep wadi]

that elevator never worked

[ionic stump]

Imma go fight ascented grimm to train for nkg

[boreal berry]

Just do savage beastfly before voided stuff and you ball

[glass mortar]

finnaly met mommy 😄

[steep wadi]

lmao

[slender juniper]

VESPA BOSS FIGHT WHENN RAARGH GIVE ME MY QUEEN

[ionic stump]

Sad she doesn't remember her face

[slender juniper]

"my hornets kinda motherless "

[glass mortar]

NOOOOOOOOO

now my hornet is kinda motherless

[boreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[ionic stump]

John hollow knight after killing herrah in her sleep

[reef urchin]

okay can i say something? like genuinely this time :<

[minor widget]

go ahead

[ionic stump]

No

[slender juniper]

Knight:

[boreal berry]

Hang on what’s so bad about reaper

I like it very much

[slender juniper]

The attack damage is the same as on every other crest

And the bind is 3 orbs for one silk ,one to 2 silk on avarage

[reef urchin]

I don't expect it to become reality by any means, but I personally would want to play as the broken vessel/lost kin

[ionic stump]

Reaper hater going on reaper hating ( he is telling the truth)

[slender juniper]

It fails at its gimmick of silk gen

[boreal berry]

Yeah but that’s assuming you hit the attack right
So if you have something like wanderer it’s harder to hit the attack in general
Also good passive bind

[slender juniper]

Which hunter and wanderer do better

[reef urchin]

I like reaper tho... :c

[steep wadi]

sadly they're dead :(

[ionic stump]

The only good reaper thing it's pogo

[boreal berry]

WE like reaper

[reef urchin]

the big arc makes pogoes very comfy

[still osprey]

Reaper also has a slower attack speed and higher knockback on enemies

[ionic stump]

Which wanderer deals way better

[steep wadi]

absolute dogshit dps with slow ass attacks and a near-useless gimmick

[boreal berry]

I LOVE doing pogos so I beer me a good one

[slender juniper]

Range in silksong is a placebo, reaper has less than 20% more range than hunter and wanderer length is the same as hunter

[still osprey]

it's fine if you're a beginner but it's not a crest you want to depend on for your whole playthrough imo

[exotic cedar]

I tried karmelita with reaper and fall asleep

[ionic stump]

Beast supermacy ( trust)

[steep wadi]

coughs
longclaw buffs wanderer range by 27% btw

[boreal berry]

HOW is the gimmick useless

[broken seal]

Reapers pogo isn't even good

[slender juniper]

1-2 extra silk on avarage

[boreal berry]

Justice for reaper bro

[inland sparrow]

oh no dont tell we were gona start talkinf about crests again

[ionic stump]

It had large hitbox

[steep wadi]

costs a full silk bar to activate and rarely even pays back the cost

[boreal berry]

Undeserved hate

[slender juniper]

Exactly it should be buffed

[ionic stump]

Crest war yay

[inland sparrow]

NOO

[steep wadi]

true it really badly needs a buff

[neat python]

Who else beat the all the bosses in less than 2 try because its easy💀💀

[ionic stump]

More like reaper racism tbh

[exotic cedar]

Every time a crest discourse begins team cherry delays sea of sorrow by 2 days

[fervent yew]

hell yeah

[slender juniper]

Reaper-horrible DPS
Not good enough bind
Long cool down,

[reef urchin]

does reaper do more damage per hit or is the damage per attack the same for the crests?

[ionic stump]

It will be it's own game trust

[boreal berry]

I’m trying to base my entire run off of reaper
I am staying true to the goated crest

[fervent yew]

finally got him

[ionic stump]

No

[still osprey]

it's the same for all crests

[steep wadi]

damn
guess im single-handedly responsible for the entire wait then

[reef urchin]

cuz im assuming reaper deals the most damage in a single hit

[exotic cedar]

Congratz on defeating paleshit

[ionic stump]

All crest deal same dmg

[boreal berry]

No
It has most range tho

[still osprey]

the only crests that can deal more damage per hit is Hunter with Focus and Beast with Fury

[boreal berry]

They do same damage

[reef urchin]

damn...

[ionic stump]

I hate palestig and it's run aback

[still osprey]

the humble witch crest:

[inland sparrow]

not 2 days its 7 days

[broken seal]

in exchange for a big hitbox it gets a huge startup that carries you into enemy attacks, the least amount of iframes out of ant pogo, and a longer overall time to pogo then any other pogo. it's slow and sloppy and unsafe in combat in exchange for having a bit bigger of a hitbox. for platforming it's fine, but it's an awful pogo for combat purposes (any other pogo is better)

[steep wadi]

it does the same damage as all the other crests
But it attacks a fuckton slower so its terrible dps

[exotic cedar]

Good.

[boreal berry]

alr I guess 😭

[ionic stump]

I don't say it's good i say it's the only good thing it has

[broken seal]

it's a mid crest but if you like it feel free to use it.

[hushed girder]

The next one I should be worried is last judge

[steep wadi]

actual challenge run

[boreal berry]

It is mid
But I love it

[hushed girder]

I died to its explosions like three times on my regular run

[broken seal]

yeah but it's not even good lmao it's a part of why it's bad

[neat python]

Alpre how many tries did lost lace take you

[slender juniper]

Witch and shaman have more range

[exotic cedar]

I don't remember

[slender juniper]

Architects has more range than reaper,I told you range is a placebo

[hushed girder]

Lost lace took me like 30 attempts

[exotic cedar]

It wasnt a memorable fight for me so i don't remember

[steep wadi]

fuckin wanderers with longclaw has more range lmao

[boreal berry]

I’d rather challenge myself than use something like architect or wanderer #cringecrest

[ionic stump]

My crest tierlist hunter> wanderer> =beast>=shaman >architect> reaper

Witch

[steep wadi]

wanderer slander will not be tolerated

[exotic cedar]

I fucking love witch

[hushed girder]

Isn’t witch one of the worst?

[slender juniper]

Nerf wanderer

[boreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/estewei-gif-1923918263554836321

[inland sparrow]

It took me 10 trys to beat lost lace and I was using reaper crest

[boreal berry]

Wanderer is so boring

[steep wadi]

range wise? im pretty sure it has the same or a bit more range than hunters

[boreal berry]

I like a crest that’s not good but fun

And reaper is fun

[steep wadi]

please im begging

[glass mortar]

i met step mommy

[broken seal]

is this based on how much you like them or how good they are

[hushed girder]

I used to always use the clock work crest

[steep wadi]

reaper is a SLOG imo

[hushed girder]

Oh yea the red area

[steep wadi]

its so slowww

[slender juniper]

No more crestslop or I'm locking this chat

[ionic stump]

Personal tierlist not actually being good

[hushed girder]

That was a wonder

[leaden delta]

witch is one of the best actually. iirc its second best behind shaman

[broken seal]

try Witch. It's good but it isn't the best crest compared to others, and it's very fun

[glass mortar]

NOOOO i dont wana go to the void again

[ionic stump]

It's how much I like them

[boreal berry]

It’s just good all around
It’s not actually bad in any aspect

[steep wadi]

b-b-but crestslop is my favoriittee

[glass mortar]

curse you silksong whyyyyy

[broken seal]

Definitely not

[ionic stump]

Witch heal can be extremely good or extremely bad

[boreal berry]

With my luck I’ll die every time I bind 😭

[neat python]

Christopher larkin gave birth to the pale king and hornet so they are brothers

[leaden delta]

its def more than reaper

which is like half the things in the game

[ionic stump]

Personally i tend to the bad

[slender juniper]

Chrissy gave birth to my music taste

[steep wadi]

terrible speed
mid pogo
shitty gimmick
hell the only "advantage" it has is its range and it has less range than half the crests in the game

[ionic stump]

Maybe bc i never tried it

[neat python]

Christopher larkin gave birth to the pale king and hornet in bilewater so they are brothers

[slender juniper]

Chrissy Larkin is my idol and god

[ionic stump]

Best crest is cursed

[broken seal]

It has the lowest dps, the slowest platforming, one of the worst passives, and worst iframes on pogo. Only good parts are some of the other moveset parts, the range, and the tool slot distribution

[boreal berry]

I like it’s pogo
And it’s gimmick is good too you just get lots of silk

[ionic stump]

Cursed crest supermacy

[steep wadi]

only 1-2 more silk on average
thats shit
thats terrible

[glass mortar]

guys with last dive can i go up in pharloom again?

[slender juniper]

Witch has best distribution

[still osprey]

Silksong would be a much better game if you were Crestless throughout the entirety of it

[slender juniper]

False it's 1-2 extra silk on avarage

[boreal berry]

Beast platforming:

[ionic stump]

Best tool distribution is hunter

[broken seal]

yea but Hunter/Reaper have 2nd best and it's interchangeable depending on context imo

[ionic stump]

2 of all

[boreal berry]

More than 0

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-14514797702729285380

[neat python]

Zone and hortet

[still osprey]

how many red tools does witch have it's 2 right

[steep wadi]

reaper is MID at everything
its not the worst at anything but it has no niche
every other crest has something its GOOD at

[broken seal]

I said slowest, not worst. And beast is actually very good at platforming in most sections, people just mald cuz they don't know how to use the pogo

[ionic stump]

Beast pogo is more like a dash

[neat python]

This game is just luck based after moss mother

[ionic stump]

Best tool distribution is hunter worst probably beast

[broken seal]

it's worst in a few things and mid in everything else

[ionic stump]

Bc no blue

[slender juniper]

No more crestslop

[still osprey]

beast tool slots are so ass

[slender juniper]

Talk about kratt

[still osprey]

2 red 2 yellow and that's all you have like hello

[ionic stump]

Blue tools went for milk

[boreal berry]

That’s actually what I’m trying to convey
If you’re good then it isn’t bad at anything whereas other crests have something they’re bad at which you need to counter with a tool or something

[steep wadi]

my problem with it is just the fact that it doesnt really have a niche its just like
mid

[slender juniper]

Should have been 1 blue one yellow who the fuck needs 2 yellows in combat

[still osprey]

Wanderer tool slots are also very meh like when do you ever need 4 yellow tools

[broken seal]

and somehow Beast is still super strong even with the worst tool slot distribution of all time

[ionic stump]

Probably dice and dice buffer

[still osprey]

now if wanderer had a 2nd red tool slot then we'd be talking...

[ionic stump]

True

[steep wadi]

a crest that sucks at everything equally isnt a GOOD crest

[slender juniper]

We've had this conversation 50 times before

[ionic stump]

Nah we are good

[broken seal]

it's niche is being a noob trap

[steep wadi]

if wanderer had 2 reds it'd be SO busted
like more than it already is lmao

[boreal berry]

But you also have other crests which have something they’re good and bad at which should equal it out

[slender juniper]

How do y'all enjoy crestslop all the time

[still osprey]

Witch tool slots are kind of insane like, 2 red tools and 3 blue tools like hello what

[inland sparrow]

Real

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425750070434857113/1426503896259625041/caption.gif

[steep wadi]

the wanderer crest in question
the hunter crest in question

[glass mortar]

guys im scared whats the last dive will i ever see biddle buddy again

[boreal berry]

Range and pogo am I missing something

[steep wadi]

i like saying the same things over and over again

[still osprey]

hunter pogo is not bad at all hello

[broken seal]

it's actively worse every other crest in one way or another. it being bad at everything doesn't make it better than something that's good at everything except 1 thing that it kinda struggles at

[ionic stump]

Hunter pogo isn't bad

[still osprey]

hunter is like, the best pogo in the game

[slender juniper]

False hunter is good at everything

[steep wadi]

wanderers has the same range as hunters and both pogos are really good

[boreal berry]

Beast

[still osprey]

beast pogo is also not bad 😭

[ionic stump]

Beast is another story

[boreal berry]

No I meant respectively

[broken seal]

Beast pogo is also good

[still osprey]

if you want to look at bad pogos look at Architect's

[ionic stump]

Still it's more like a dash

Which can be good

[exotic cedar]

Every pogo is good if you master it

[slender juniper]

Are you gonna believe me if I say reaper only has 10% more range than hunter

[boreal berry]

I just never personally got the hang of it which is why I opt not to use it

[steep wadi]

i understood
wanderers range is a non-issue cuz its the same as hunters
hunter pogo is one of the best in the game

[exotic cedar]

Architect pogo is fun

[ionic stump]

The delay sucks

[exotic cedar]

Just time it

[fervent yew]

yoo i beat up clover dancers first try

[boreal berry]

Yes
Then you’ll say to use long claw which you can also use on reaper for even more range

[broken seal]

it's clunky and i don't like it but it isn't bad (it's pretty mid for general platforming but not the worst)

[ionic stump]

I thought it was like hunter at first I was wrong

[still osprey]

tbf I think I might have trauma from my architect playthrough where I had to fight fotf with it

[broken seal]

using a whole blue slot for long claw (middle of the pack blue tool) on Reaper which doesn't need more range

[ionic stump]

It's technically infinite health with plasmium

[steep wadi]

the point is neither hunters nor wanderers have BAD range
they have average range

[still osprey]

dear god never fight fotf with architect pogo

[broken seal]

i meant the pogo specifically but yeah

[ionic stump]

Delver drill

[boreal berry]

It doesn’t need it yeah but I’m just pointing it out to counter anyone who says to use longclaw on wanderer

[ionic stump]

Also yeah fotf counters many red tools

Like drones

[slender juniper]

Does anybody even know you can spam curveclaws on the body

[slender juniper]

Just spam curveclaws on the large heart

[steep wadi]

fun fact
longclaw has different buff amounts for different crests
and on wanderers the amount is 27%

[ionic stump]

They probably meant phase 1

Where you have to pogo

[boreal berry]

Yall should just let me like the mid crest 😔

[still osprey]

this is not true it's 27% for all crests except Witch

[slender juniper]

Aren't drones technically good since theyl Target them instead of you

[broken seal]

you don't need longclaw on any crest but if the range is an issue then that's why you would use longclaw. Reaper doesn't need longclaw AT ALL and the argument you should be making is that it gets an extra blue slot for not needing longclaw (which you don't need for any crest because the tool is mid)

[ionic stump]

?

[steep wadi]

oh
last i heard it was i might be mistaken though
still 27% is a lot

[still osprey]

Witch only gets an 11% range increase

[boreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[ionic stump]

Longclaw on wanderer goes insane

[steep wadi]

why do people use MoP

[inland sparrow]

I have never used long claw

[ionic stump]

Bc more range is better

[broken seal]

not necessary + other blue tools are better, but it could be better for you specifically if you're not as good at fighting super close up

[slender juniper]

Longclawed reaper is a 14% dif

[still osprey]

longclaw is good but there's other options I'd prefer running

[broken seal]

idk charm is mid but people use it cuz they like big nail

[ionic stump]

I only use it on wanderer

[still osprey]

MoP is a crutch

[steep wadi]

longclaw is really good imo
theres not really many blues id rather use in place of it tbh

'cept memory bosses yeah

[ionic stump]

I use longclaw on wanderer reserve bind on the rest

[restive ibex]

If you have honor yes

[inland sparrow]

yes

[slender juniper]

@boreal berry like I said ,range is a placebo

[ionic stump]

Yes and don't leave the game we will know

[exotic cedar]

Except memory bosses, shakra, first sinner

[still osprey]

garmond too I believe

[broken seal]

it's kinda directly in the middle of the pack for blue tools. The better you get at the game the less you need it because you can fight up close without getting hit. And using it builds bad habits lowkey, also there are a good chunk of blue tools that are much stronger

[exotic cedar]

Oh yeah

[boreal berry]

Bro I’m not even talking anymore let me like the mid crest 😭

[ionic stump]

Shakra isn't memory but she doesn't kill you

[still osprey]

unless he knocks you into spikes

[exotic cedar]

But garmond is supid and chopped i forgor about it

[slender juniper]

Im letting you just showing how placebod range is in skong

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/garmond-zaza-garmond-silksong-garmond-i-love-you-garmond-good-morning-gif-13968347641013587573

[ionic stump]

I hope nothing bad happens to him

[still osprey]

I want to do a tool tier list but I feel like I haven't used a number of tools enough to accurately rank them

[steep wadi]

idk
i just dont really feel the need to change it out for anything else is all

[ionic stump]

Same

[broken seal]

you're allowed to like it and use it. But arguing that it isn't bad or that it has some advantage when it objectively doesn't makes no sense and is what we're arguing against

[steep wadi]

thats true

[ionic stump]

Bc i always use the same 8 tools

[slender juniper]

When I learned wanderer is longer than hunter I was like

[ionic stump]

What

[steep wadi]

lmao

[boreal berry]

I like the passive ):

[ionic stump]

Wanderer has more range?

[still osprey]

Wanderer is slightly longer than Hunter but it has less width to it so it makes things harder to hit anyway

[slender juniper]

Yes

[still osprey]

especially flying enemies

[ionic stump]

Tf?

[slender juniper]

It's longer by a whopping 5%

[broken seal]

wanderers basic needle attack is 2 pixels longer than Hunters, but it's a lot shorter and covers overall less pixels. The upslash is much smaller though.

[graceful oyster]

What

[steep wadi]

flying enemies are kinda annoying but clawline is very useful for dealing with them

[graceful oyster]

It's pixels longer

[ionic stump]

Oh that's why

[broken seal]

and the upslash is much shorter

[still osprey]

wanderer upslash 😭 🔥

we hitting NOTHING with this one

[ionic stump]

Wanderer is hk

[steep wadi]

we dont talk about wanderer upslash

[ionic stump]

Hk crest

[slender juniper]

Who needs upslashes when you have quicknail

[ionic stump]

Should I do a beast only challenge?

[broken seal]

the passive is bad but that doesn't mean you can't like it and power to you for using what you enjoy

[restive ibex]

That's not a challenge tbh

[ionic stump]

I am alr doing one

[broken seal]

Yes crest is strong and it's fun (not a challenge)

[ionic stump]

Every platform

Even though I am getting the hung of it

[slender juniper]

That one room in shellwood

[boreal berry]

Can’t you just spam em out with tonnes of slashes and get way more than just 1 or 2 silk overall

[ionic stump]

Yeah

[broken seal]

Most platforming sections are perfectly manageable with beast pogo. The only bad ones are narrow vertical stretches, SPECIFICALLY that one room in shellwood.

[ionic stump]

I may change crest only for that room

[steep wadi]

beast-only challenge is how like half the players play the game lmao

[slender juniper]

Problem is you can't spam slashes on a slow as crest

[restive ibex]

You'd adapt after like 2 platforming sections. And when you get delvers drill it's trivial

[boreal berry]

Well you can so idk whatchu on about

[steep wadi]

its too slow lmao

[ionic stump]

I never actually used beast in my first play through

[boreal berry]

It cannot be this slow gang

[restive ibex]

Also beast absolutely wallops every boss

[steep wadi]

me neither but thats cuz im a d1 wanderer glazer lol

[slender juniper]

The max you could get is 6 silk from the bind if the target is not moving and you're constantly hitting,only if you're lucky,if you're not lucky it's 4, yeah the orbs are also rng

[steep wadi]

its SO SLOW

[still osprey]

I love how people say "that one room in shellwood" and I know exactly which room they're talking about because. yea. that room sucks with beast I won't lie

[ionic stump]

I was too lazy to switch off hunter

[steep wadi]

fair enough

[exotic cedar]

I think it's still possible w beast

[ionic stump]

I see i obliterated the guy right of starting location

[still osprey]

It's still possible, I've done it, but it is annoying

[slender juniper]

First hit always generates one orb, then a random Chance between 2 and 3, 3 make one

[ionic stump]

It is possible i have seen videos

[glass mortar]

im scared guys!!!!

[ionic stump]

But ain't no way i am pulling that on my second play though

[normal bramble]

Gl

[steep wadi]

LL is lowkey cake i beat her 3rd try

[ionic stump]

Burnt croissant fight

[glass mortar]

WHOS HER

OH NO

[steep wadi]

youll see

[normal bramble]

Just dive down

[ionic stump]

I had to actually switch to wanderer

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-eating-jerma-gif-24876775

[slender juniper]

Kinda obvious

[ionic stump]

Burnt croissant ofc

[glass mortar]

wll its ays child os i guess lace

[ionic stump]

Yesnt

[steep wadi]

just go down bro

[slender juniper]

Turn the music up

[ionic stump]

Just go down

[glass mortar]

ia mmm

[slender juniper]

Trust me,listen to the music

[glass mortar]

am

[ionic stump]

Also don't try running

[steep wadi]

then watch the cutscene and get out of here lmao

[slender juniper]

Last dive ost so PEEEEAAAAK

[ionic stump]

Bc of impact damage

[glass mortar]

holy cur scene

[steep wadi]

christopher larkin my beloved

[ionic stump]

Real but what comes next is better

Imma wait for this guy to get obliterated to say his opinion

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[glass mortar]

ew i falled in some black liquid

[graceful oyster]

Lace turns into the Shade Lord and act 4 starts after the void releases

[ionic stump]

Don't ask what it is

[glass mortar]

oh god wish me luck

[ionic stump]

Looks like you lost someone

[unkempt steeple]

A silksong colloseum would be so cool, enemies from all over pharloom in long gauntlets

[ionic stump]

Gl

[hard apex]

last judge is killing me immensely

[unkempt steeple]

It'd make alot of sence to be in memorium I think since it has bugs from all over pharloom

[glass mortar]

wow.....

[ionic stump]

Burnt croissant is hard af

[slender juniper]

https://youtu.be/fcAP-B1HGXA?is=DTThC5-vYJqmqxE-

[still osprey]

I tried ranking both hk and silksong bosses but I haven't actually played hk in like months so some of these placements are definitely skewed, feel free to yell at me why I'm actually wrong and Pure Vessel sucks and No Eyes is the pinnacle of boss design 🔥

[slender juniper]

THIS CROISSANT IS SO FIRE IT BURNT

[ionic stump]

Ye

And what comes even later is fire

I won't spoil but it's peak

Like fighting lost savage beastfly ( no)

[wary storm]

give tierlist link pls

[graceful oyster]

Nah this is peak except that LL is brutally overrated and AbsRad is not that bad

[unkempt steeple]

Also the only fight with an audience in silksong is karmelita's and those bugs aren't even real

[still osprey]

https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-and-silksong-all-bosses-1211546

[unkempt steeple]

I miss having bugs cheer for me as I kill enemies

[ionic stump]

At least grimm audience was real

[still osprey]

I honestly never liked absrad much idk

[ionic stump]

Massive moss charger slander won't be tolerated

[steep wadi]

no she aint

[still osprey]

Sure it's not terrible but I don't enjoy it very much

[slender juniper]

Stop saying children are hard

[ionic stump]

For you no for me yes

[steep wadi]

absrad is Fine i think
id find her more fun if she wasnt at the end of P5

[still osprey]

Lost Lace on the other hand, idk it's my favorite fight in the series it's just really really fun even if it has some problems

[ionic stump]

Ayooo what?

[slender juniper]

https://youtu.be/fcAP-B1HGXA?is=DTThC5-vYJqmqxE- this is all it needs

[ionic stump]

My favourite moment in lost lace is running away from her only to appear in my face and take 2 dmg

[glass mortar]

why do act 3 bosses have ovvere 1500 hp

[steep wadi]

idk i found her kinda
dissapointing?
something like that shes just lace but Again

[still osprey]

and yes I think Elder Hu is honestly the worst boss Team Cherry has designed

[ionic stump]

She actually has 1800

[steep wadi]

ughh
elder hu

[still osprey]

At least Zango hits me if I'm not careful

[glass mortar]

ik

[ionic stump]

Lore was good bc it includes mantis village

And everything with them it's peak

[slender juniper]

Give me a symphony of the judge build

[ionic stump]

Yeah she is tank

[steep wadi]

elder hu when i have to sit through a 60 second unskippable cutscene that is his fight

[ionic stump]

I mean it's endgame what do you expect?

[restive ibex]

Red tools

[glass mortar]

bruh

[ionic stump]

Red tools vs karmelitta

[slender juniper]

Somebody give me a build for symphonies

[glass mortar]

like 1200 max

[still osprey]

I understand feeling disappointment but to me lost lace really fits the themes of the game and I much prefer it over a random void creature unrelated to everything

[ionic stump]

That's not hk buddy

[still osprey]

but maybe it's just me idk

[ionic stump]

Even though I believe abs rad has more

[steep wadi]

wanderer with volt filament, flintslate, weaver light, longclaw, and cross stitch

[slender juniper]

Nah

[steep wadi]

thematically shes GREAT but gameplay-wise fighting lace again isnt really all that

[still osprey]

I see a lot of people dislike lost lace and I honestly don't really get it? Not like there's anything wrong with it ofc people can have their opinions, but I don't think there's anything the fight really does wrong

[ionic stump]

That's like I love lost and chained mod

Bc gms actually does sth

[steep wadi]

its a good fight dont get me wrong
all the lace fights are fun
its just
i expected something harder from the final boss

[still osprey]

yea that's fair she's not really that hard

[glass mortar]

holy

[exotic cedar]

I wanted something unique

[still osprey]

tho tbh, Radiance also isn't hard and that's the final boss of hk's true ending

[fiery burrow]

Two biggest criticisms of Lost Lace are poor readability (Randomly spawned black projectiles on a black background while keeping track of a black boss) and being underwhelming for a final boss since its just Lace with recycled void attacks

[still osprey]

people seem to forget a lot of hk's hardest bosses came from dlcs, which silksong has 0 of so far

[ionic stump]

Right side of the map exists

[rocky jolt]

randomly spawned

[steep wadi]

well yeah but shes NEW at least
also absrad is defintiely hard

[wary drum]

https://tenor.com/view/fera-animations-pet-flea-silk-gif-5862054170864993707

[glass mortar]

how does one get that good to say such

[crude geyser]

Whats the easiest boss yall struggled against the most ?

[fiery burrow]

Do the aforementioned black projectiles all spawn directly on top of GMS who is also mostly black

[still osprey]

AbsRad is hard, but she is a dlc boss, I'm comparing the base games here because silksong still doesn't have dlcs

[ionic stump]

Widow

[steep wadi]

shes just lace + the void attacks

[wary drum]

No one because i do not play silksong 🧡

[exotic cedar]

Second sentinel

[wary drum]

Wait how many gb is silksong on mobile

[steep wadi]

honestly?
bell eater

[glass mortar]

you an read her she might do 1,2 or 3 dashes air or ground

[crude geyser]

Imo, lugoli or zango

[fiery burrow]

I got whooped by lost lace but I also got whooped by khann so idk

[exotic cedar]

I struggled with them because i didn't have much needle upgrades

[icy pollen]

Sister Splinter

[graceful cairn]

gms

[ionic stump]

Yes she does that

[steep wadi]

patience

[still osprey]

Moorwing was the first real roadblock I faced

[honest field]

moorwing or sister splinter

[still osprey]

fast forward 200 hours how tf did I struggle bro I'm blaming Reaper

[wary drum]

This envyyoungblood guy is rlly annoying 💔

[honest field]

I didn't find wanderer til like act 2 lol

[fallow sorrel]

Is rune range viable now that it targets

[restive ibex]

I died a bunch of times to craggler if that counts lol

[ionic stump]

I blame myself for widow I hated her second phase ( love first sinner however)

[steep wadi]

oh shit you fought moorwing with reaper
yeah i wondered why people were struggling with him and
its always cuz they were using reaper

[green owl]

banna kitty

[still osprey]

yyyep

[rocky jolt]

still gotta deal with a long ass casting time

[still osprey]

I used Reaper for Moorwing, Sister Splinter and Widow iirc

[graceful cairn]

moorwing only took me like a few attempts on my first playthrough i really enjoyed it

[ionic stump]

And people say reaper is good

[still osprey]

then I found Wanderer and instantly switched to that

[fallow sorrel]

Outside of that

[steep wadi]

pluh
hell on earth

[still osprey]

man I was so ass at this game 😭 🔥

[steep wadi]

dw reaper is a notorious noob trap lmao

[inland sparrow]

I did reaper agaist every act 2 and 3 boss

[ionic stump]

Bc i don't want to start another reaper slander imma leave

[inland sparrow]

NEVER AGAIN

[honest field]

reaper needs a buff to either needle DMG or bind extra silk

[steep wadi]

[ionic stump]

Or attack sped

[still osprey]

It's ok tho cuz now I can pull off shit like this and it looks awesome

[glass mortar]

i used reaper on bosses till late ac 2

[rocky jolt]

no

[honest field]

wanderer I'm pretty sure still gets more silk that reaper even with reaper bind

[ionic stump]

The only boss I used reaper was nyleth

[steep wadi]

that DOES look awesome

[ionic stump]

After some tries i just used shaman

And first tried her with that

[steep wadi]

ngl i found wanderers and never took that shit off

[ionic stump]

Also is it possible to get surface memento with beast?

[glass mortar]

how do i get shaman crest cause the shamans are gone now

[steep wadi]

i mean probably
itll be a pain in the ass tho

[ionic stump]

Still go to their place

[steep wadi]

uh
go to shaman temple and go to the right and use silksoar

[ionic stump]

On the right use the silk roar

[glass mortar]

gone

ooooh

[still osprey]

I've been learning a bunch of skips and stuff recently it's really fun

[rocky jolt]

beast crest users when its time to have fun playing the game

[steep wadi]

ngl i love the movement in this game so much

its so satisfying

[still osprey]

this game has such good movement

they made a ledge grab feel good like that's insane

[candid kayak]

it's really nice

[normal bramble]

God damn that’s AWESOME

[candid kayak]

and the fact that you can ledge grab almost instantly with a well timed dash is cool

[spice cargo]

guys

[reef hawk]

what keybind do yall use for harpoon

[graceful oyster]

Bold of you to assume we are

[inland sparrow]

I use controller

[still osprey]

unironically the bell beast phase skip is probably the hardest thing I've had to learn so far it took me an hour to get it once

[spice cargo]

loam makes like 1 rosary per min and thays like 60 rosaries an hour, imagine getting paid 60 dollars an hour, why do we feel bad for him

[rocky jolt]

e

[steep wadi]

default one

[candid kayak]

default (also controller)

[reef hawk]

i use r

[still osprey]

default on keyboard, which is S

the only keybind I've changed is Silk Skills

from F to Left Shift

[candid kayak]

when I first booted up silksong it suggested using a controller so I did and I'm so glad it did

[steep wadi]

fair enough f is kinda far

[reef hawk]

i use shift to dash and right click to use silk skill

[candid kayak]

it feels far more pleasant on my fingers than keyboard

[steep wadi]

..
whats with people and using their mouse

[candid kayak]

^^^^

mouse is for 3D, or games with some kind of cursor

[rocky jolt]

why are people normal

[steep wadi]

yeah

[candid kayak]

silksong is neither of those things

[reef hawk]

😭

[candid kayak]

so you're just wasting a hand

[steep wadi]

who the fuck uses mouse for a 2d metroidvania with NO CURSOR

[rocky jolt]

how the fuck do you waste a hand that makes no sense

it does have a cursor

[steep wadi]

if you have 2 hands on the keyboard
you can press twice as many buttons

[candid kayak]

if you want to have your attack button on your right hand, bind attack to the arrow keys or the numpad or something lmfao

[steep wadi]

fym????

[candid kayak]

and there are a lot of buttons!

[reef hawk]

do yall not use mouse to hit

[rocky jolt]

i dont need 2 hands to press keyboard buttons

[candid kayak]

no?

[rocky jolt]

using two hands for pogoing feels way better for me

[steep wadi]

no???? theres NO CURSOR WHAT ARE YOU USING THE MOUS FOR

[reef hawk]

real

[candid kayak]

you're just using the mouse as isolated buttons

[steep wadi]

i use both hands to pogo too
right hand inputs down on my arrow keys
left hand inputs attack

[rocky jolt]

why arent yo uattacking with L bro!!! 😡

[candid kayak]

I'm so glad I played flash games back in the day

[reef hawk]

the default controls are so confusing ngl

[candid kayak]

where some used ZXC-like controls

[reef hawk]

my friend beat steel soul with default

[steep wadi]

honestly
celeste taught me how to use that kind of control scheme

[candid kayak]

uhh... for some reason "Give up, robot" comes to mind lmfao

[steep wadi]

its just
use left hand for actions
use right hand for movement

[candid kayak]

^^

[steep wadi]

had em mixed up mb

[candid kayak]

lol

[exotic dome]

i accidentally had discovered this in my first playthrough lol

[candid kayak]

heal. clawline, needolin, tools
jump, attack, dash

[still osprey]

This phase skip is lowkey the hardest thing I've had to learn so far it took me like an hour to get it once

[candid kayak]

then on the right hand you're controlling movement and aim with arrow keys

[candid kayak]

oho

[zealous shoal]

My only (minor) gripe with arrow key movement is that I play on console more often, so I have to flip it in my mind.

[candid kayak]

I played all of hollow knight on keyboard

but silksong told me to use a controller and I'm glad it did

it's more comfortable imo

[still osprey]

I tried using a controller to play silksong once

took me 40 minutes to get to lace

[candid kayak]

I feel like thinking back to keyboard I just remember my fingers on the arrow keys getting a bit strained

[still osprey]

I have like never used a controller before tbf I only recently got one

[candid kayak]

mm

[reef hawk]

im lowk going to try beating the game with a controller

[zealous shoal]

For people who use a controller:
Do you control movement with dpad (➕ ) or stick? (🕹️ )

[candid kayak]

remember, hold your right thumb over multiple buttons at the same time

[graceful cairn]

how can you use controller and not use dpad

[candid kayak]

then you press down the middle of your thumb to jump and the tip of your thumb to attack, etc.

ough, I WAS using stick, until that started acting really fucky and incorrect

like in the calibration test on steam I would hold it in a direction and it'd glide all over the place and be wildly incorrect

so I switched to d-pad

;-;

[zealous shoal]

I find the stick placement to not make my thumb hurt. (On Switch) I still use dpad for games with more pixel-scale movement.

[candid kayak]

as someone who originally grew up with a ps2, xbox controllers are weird lol

like on the playstation controller the sticks are mirrored

[green owl]

yall do i gotta fight lace 2 times?

[candid kayak]

technically there's a third

[zealous shoal]

PlayStation layout promotes either dpad and face buttons or twin stick with triggers, while Nintendo layout prioritizes stick with face buttons.

[candid kayak]

but don't worry about that

[paper kraken]

guys idk if any of you know but do you guys know if any interview concluded that the red coral gorge will never come as dlc

[green owl]

i was looking at the hunters journel and it said defete 1 more time

[paper kraken]

yup

[candid kayak]

there's a variant of them much much much later

[green owl]

oh

[candid kayak]

but yes there's a second fight later on

[paper kraken]

but

you dont have to worry rn

[steep wadi]

id imagine silksong is a bit smoother on controller tbh
just cuz i have to stretch my fingers a bit to reach the further inputs (mainly silk skill/tool)

[candid kayak]

mmm

[honest field]

I play on switch 2 and use stick BC d pad is just uncomfortable

[worthy lintel]

Ultimate Chicken Spider

[green owl]

?

[steep wadi]

pfft

[steep wadi]

ultimate chicken horse but silksong

[green owl]

oooooh