sk-discussion

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-funny-monkey-silly-monkey-hungry-dog-chomp-gif-5757167629314883974

[subtle lynx]

9 sols players struggling with sex be like (they can't find a parry window):

[mystic chasm]

folk

[soft belfry]

this implies that the guy was actually frequently asked these questions 💀

[stable pilot]

Bro

[lavish apex]

join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us join us

[inland edge]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[rancid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-gif-24135905

man this gif is goated

[inland edge]

What his mouth scent will be like

[rancid stag]

hmmm

[mystic chasm]

eggs

[rancid stag]

rancid eggs

[mystic chasm]

and uhh egg yolks

[minor sparrow]

You get 1 guess

[lavish apex]

didn't eggspect to see that happening in that gif

[minor sparrow]

Boo this man

[inland edge]

Raw egg or fried egg or boiled egg?

[mystic chasm]

im slapping my belly and chuckling to this, you get 1 updoot my comerade!

[rancid stag]

rancid eggs

[mystic chasm]

probably somewhere in the middle

[lavish apex]

thank you i'll be here all week

[mystic chasm]

im an eggspert on this stuff

[inland edge]

The only true option

[rancid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[stable pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/gothamchess-goes-mad-gothamchess-jumps-on-chair-levy-goes-mad-gotham-goes-mad-levy-jumps-on-chair-gif-8211070565752995891

This one is better

[rancid stag]

wtf is levy doing dawg

[tribal scroll]

[mystic chasm]

i should have admin so
i can ban people that i dont like

[inland edge]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-brother-ewww-gif-13389748375741691208

[stable pilot]

Married man, chess master, in his 30s

[rancid stag]

makes sense

[inland edge]

Remove #sk-discussion from existence

[mystic chasm]

this will happen if i am mod

so make me

moderater

moderator i barely know her

[inland edge]

@ mods learn from this guy lossers

[rancid stag]

is your pfp paddington
i lowk now just noticed the similarities

[mystic chasm]

yes

paddington with a christmas hat

[vale whale]

who wants to co op ornstein and smough in dsr switch

[radiant quail]

Get a job guys

[vale whale]

i should have admin so i can blacklist the word mio

[glass mortar]

huh wheres my diving thingy

[radiant quail]

It's gone

[vale whale]

tf??

[radiant quail]

Wtf

[rancid stag]

it's 0 am

[mystic chasm]

it means the message is going to be tomorrow at 0 am, duh

[vale whale]

it syas tomorrow

[tight hull]

seth tomorrow

[mystic chasm]

sethsong

[rancid stag]

oh

[glass mortar]

i can silk soar up

[minor sparrow]

Wrong chat mb

[radiant quail]

For me it's 1 a.m.

[inland edge]

I already get one , Iam a professional ragebaiter

[rich tree]

lwk almost got everythjing in the game explored b4 trifold melody

[mystic chasm]

haha my time zone is better than yours /j

[radiant quail]

Cool

[radiant quail]

Haha my Silk is better than your song

[inland edge]

It’s 3am in my time and planning to sleep at 5 to wake up at 7am

[radiant quail]

For me it's Saturday

[minor sparrow]

Maybe plan to sleep now and wake up at 7. More bang for your buck

[inland edge]

It’s Sunday in my time

[radiant quail]

Wait

[inland edge]

No I have exam tomorrow I want to sell as best as possible

[radiant quail]

It's Sunday

[minor sparrow]

🤨

[inland edge]

English exam no worries

[radiant quail]

[radiant quail]

Easy

[ashen steeple]

Good ending where green prince hooks up with traitor lord and they have kids together

[radiant quail]

Guys go to sleep damn

[inland edge]

I had a Math exam yesterday and I slept only one hour and I will get S

No need to sleep

[radiant quail]

No voice to cry suffering

[inland edge]

In Ramadan I sleep only 2_1 hours because why not

[minor sparrow]

...I need to stop opening this chat

[ashen steeple]

Why

[radiant quail]

Yeah you have to

[minor sparrow]

Whatever the fuck that was

[inland edge]

It was totally normal wdym . It’s #sk-discussion bro

[exotic cedar]

Don't except something normal from this chat

[pastel plank]

goodbye

[ashen steeple]

I think theyd make a good kingdom together

The grasshoper tribe and mantis tribe have similar fighting

[pastel plank]

it's been over 24 hours and I'm still deprived of the capacity to send any sort of imagery

[ashen steeple]

Their son would be superstong

[pastel plank]

I'm utterly indignant

[still osprey]

This would make silksong an actually good game

[unkempt steeple]

it takes a verdinian to tame a lord

[ashen steeple]

Because traitor lord didn’t want his head eaten

So he hooks up with a dude

[runic walrus]

thats crazy

[ashen steeple]

I think theyd be perfect for eachother

[odd hull]

coward

[graceful cairn]

silksoar!!

[ashen steeple]

I gotta work on my fanfic now

[glass mortar]

oh yh

[ashen steeple]

✏️ 🔥

[unkempt steeple]

I have seen a comic of the clover dancers reading that female mantises rip off the males' heads and started saying they were gay

[pastel plank]

I'm pretty sure he's not a mantis

[ashen steeple]

Are they green princes mantis?

[tight hull]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-silksong-trobbio-a5xmzYqas3TxmeOX6A

[runic walrus]

thats true

[minor sparrow]

Ok I just got some bullshit on my recommended

[unkempt steeple]

they look like a mix of mantis and grass hoppers

[ashen steeple]

I know their warriors attack similar to mantis

[minor sparrow]

https://youtu.be/gFhme9WTlMc

[ashen steeple]

I think grasshoper warriors would enjoy sparring with mantis warriors

Theyd make the bestest kingdom

[pastel plank]

I know that in HK the bug species tend to not look exactly like the species they're supposed to represent from the real world, but typically they still have some distinguishable features that the real bugs have, like claws, and GP doesn't have them

[unkempt steeple]

oh how I miss you greenpath....

[runic walrus]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-hornet-silksong-wJL4svj19PEdPXDbcf

[unkempt steeple]

deep docks will never hold up to greenpath

[runic walrus]

ye

[graceful cairn]

deep docks sucks imo

[ashen steeple]

Didn’t mantis be immune to the infection?

[pastel plank]

I'm personally inclined to think GP is not mantis

[runic walrus]

deep docks just sucks compared to greenpath

[pastel plank]

Grasshopper is more likely

[graceful cairn]

who is gp bro

[unkempt steeple]

I think it's fine but it's definitly not as exciting to find on a first playthrough since the marrow is pretty small and already looks like deep docks with the lava

[pastel plank]

Green Prince

[ashen steeple]

And werent the grasshoppers resistant to the haunting

[graceful cairn]

m

[runic walrus]

no

[odd hull]

Grey Prince

[unkempt steeple]

deep docks itself is pretty small too

[minor sparrow]

Not after that video I don't

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-cute-dance-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-2885488124335295136

shaw

[graceful cairn]

of course

[pastel plank]

No, but iirc they preserved themselves

[ashen steeple]

Ah ok

[kind tide]

[viscid copper]

ah well

[pastel plank]

Gay Prince

[unkempt steeple]

no they just had very good minds

[ashen steeple]

I love bug yaoi

[kind tide]

[pastel plank]

icecube emitting giggleness

[pastel plank]

same

[kind tide]

[viscid copper]

best emoji we all agree right

grublove close 2nd

[kind tide]

[fiery burrow]

I can think of one better emoji

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/killing-killing-time-stan-twitter-kill-stan-twt-gif-1834984910626001154

[viscid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-larp-larp-larp-sahur-gif-1920240754630316569

alright why dont i have gif perms

[fiery burrow]

larp larp larp larp sahur 🗣️

[viscid copper]

LOOOL

[pastel plank]

cato

[viscid copper]

but seriously why no gif perms

how obtain

[pastel plank]

https://giphy.com/gifs/degisikhesabmis-gamevault-memevault-VOkpcujSu5L77ysRiD

[ashen steeple]

How did team cherry make a grasshopper hot

[fiery burrow]

You need 300 messages

[pastel plank]

they added homosexual elements

[fiery burrow]

They need to put ts in #rules-and-info

[pastel plank]

?

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-giga-chad-scream-mirror-gif-15250052683530088091

[pastel plank]

How do you get the permission to send pictures?

[glass mortar]

i finnnaly escaped the abyss

[fiery burrow]

An explanation of how to obain embed perms would be useful I think

[pastel plank]

I've already been a part of this server before

[kind tide]

You need to SHAW

[pastel plank]

it includes videos/pics too?

[fiery burrow]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

Why can't I access VC / Post Images?

In order to prevent Scammers and Raiders we have locked Voice Chat usage and Image permissions behind a 150 and 300 messages milestone respectively.

• If you have already reached the requirements and don't have the roles feel free to DM @frosty pelican (NOT TICKETTOOL) or any available Moderator with your total message count, More info in #support-and-faq

  • NOTE: if you are DM'ing a mod, please make sure they are accepting DM's, check their server bio

• Mutes, Kicks, And bans reset your score and you will have have to start again.

⚠️ Artificially increasing message count is considered spam.

[runic walrus]

https://giphy.com/gifs/adidas-hollow-knight-hornet-Bd8ZuJDjRR2AVxjZyp

[fiery burrow]

Yes

[pastel plank]

aw gawd

[kind tide]

shaw?

[pastel plank]

I need to reach that milestone so badly

[vale whale]

top 3 signs to tell if someone's larping silksong:

posting strange questionable gifs of the BUGS with bizarre human anatomical features
they think pv beats hornet
they post weird ship art with sexual implications and when someone says that's odd they say get off the internet

[pastel plank]

there's an urgent need to send a picture

HERE YOU GO

[fiery burrow]

You have 7k messages just ask a mod

[pastel plank]

I'm now able to do that, it was quick

[kind tide]

"she shawd on your WHAT?"

[fiery burrow]

GG

[kind tide]

"Lace??"

[pastel plank]

nvm, I already sent a ton of messages today 😭

[vale whale]

stop roleplaying in my silksong discusion before you incur my wrath

[tribal scroll]

pure hornet beats vessel ngl

[kind tide]

shaw'dy

[vale whale]

eos hornet mid diffs pv

[pastel plank]

wow I didn't know that Discord adds spoiler automatically if the file has the word "spoiler" in it

The last pack

[tribal scroll]

WE yes WE all want a forge Ballow dlc

[pastel plank]

yes

I'm really curious to find out what Forgehome looks like

[minor sparrow]

Also I just realized that each line of the sea of sorrow image has a different format for the word sizes for no reason. Thanks, Team Cherry

[pastel plank]

hahahah yeeah

Honestly it looks a bit messy

[minor sparrow]

Yeah I get that

[pastel plank]

yeahh

[autumn granite]

I can’t even put into words my hatred of ||claw maidens||

[neat python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1114256583145308235/1481227770896846848/1771012937212520.gif

[prime vale]

I hate the hearts that are in act 3

[tight hull]

why?

[prime vale]

The fights are so difficult

[broken seal]

but they're fun

[tight hull]

khann is easy actually

[tight hull]

fr

[prime vale]

Well kinda

[broken seal]

well for the crust heart i always count the "boss" as the gauntlet+khann instead of just khann

[tight hull]

but coral tower isn't that bad

the gauntlets there + the spikes are fun

and I hate gauntlets

[broken seal]

it's not awful yeah

but the tower itself is definitely more difficult than khann

[prime vale]

WHY DOES SHE HAVE 1500ISH HEALTH

[mystic chasm]

i lowk didnt do khann

i just did the conjoined heart, i couldnt bare to do anymore arenas

[broken seal]

go do khann now

you can get all 4

[mystic chasm]

i ujst got conjoined heart im gonna do lost lace first

[broken seal]

yeye

whichever heart you don't use you get to keep and pin up on your wall in your bellhome

if you have all 4 when talking to the shamans it defaults to letting you keep conjoined but if you get the three hearts other than the one you want to keep and talk to the shamans before getting the 4th, you keep that one instead

[heavy arch]

is bone bottom silksongs dirtmouth

[broken seal]

pretty much

except you don't really go back to bone bottom all that much later on

so later on ig bellhart or songclave would be this games version of dirtmouth

[heavy arch]

idk where to go

[molten knoll]

fuckkk

steel soul run gone.

[heavy arch]

im so confused

[dull ermine]

not really

bellhart fits that vibe a lot more

[heavy arch]

bro where am i supposed to go

[dull ermine]

did u just start

[heavy arch]

yes

[dull ermine]

did u even get a map yet

[heavy arch]

15 min ago

no

[dull ermine]

yo js explore

[minor plank]

Day 1 of asking for sea of sorrow news

[dull ermine]

there's like 2 paths to go max

[blazing ocean]

Im literally about hit a clip

[heavy arch]

this is a deadend

[mental snow]

Lost another Steel Soul run to good ol' dumbassery. I wasn't paying attention that much in a 2 on 1 and got merced lol

[broken seal]

just keep wandering around, and i'd recommend staying out of this channel if you wanna avoid spoilers. if you really badly need help, head to #sk-help

[heavy arch]

ok

[broken seal]

if a wall is glowing white like that then it's a pathway to another room

[heavy arch]

bro i have 112% hk 😔 i went inside and theres nothing in there

[mental snow]

Also this joystick's snap-back is annoying me more than that Steel Soul loss

[broken seal]

immediately upon entering that room there's a small floating platform that you can jump on and head upwards

[heavy arch]

bro i explored everywhere

and all i could find that seemed remotely useful was the closed gate

with the person singing infront of it

[slim thorn]

nerf rosary storm, its the strongest of the rosary skills

[broken seal]

going upwards will eventually lead you to things

if you see glowing red rocks, start smacking them

[heavy arch]

am i missing smth?

[earnest notch]

Hor

[heavy arch]

i prob am

ok ty illusion for the advice

[broken seal]

and pay attention to walls that look slightly broken because they could lead to things

[earnest notch]

I need to be able to send images so i need to type random shit

[blazing ocean]

Hornet taunting u

[blazing ocean]

Analyze ts

[mental snow]

Before, when I said I despised Moss Grotto because of doing it so much in Steel Soul, I really was just speaking out of anger

Also what the fuck, man

What is that UI

[broken seal]

np, if you need anymore help feel free to dm

[heavy arch]

how ami supposed to get up on that plaztform

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/a-person-who-thinks-all-the-time-albert-einstein-a-person-who-thinks-has-nothing-to-think-about-except-thoughts-gif-571443897782833709

[broken seal]

you can pogo an enemy to skip some stuff, but the intended way is to go down and to the left

[blazing ocean]

Kill the beast

[blazing ocean]

Works

[ashen steeple]

Are there any good white tools worth using

[heavy arch]

oh now i see

ty yall

[blazing ocean]

Oh yes lace is good

[broken seal]

?

do you mean silk skills lol

[ashen steeple]

Which one is that?

[broken seal]

lace is a character lol

[blazing ocean]

That one u get from killing lace

[ashen steeple]

Oh ok

Lace never gets killed though

[earnest drift]

lace is a tool

[broken seal]

are you asking about silk skills when you say white tools

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[ashen steeple]

Yeah i think so

[blazing ocean]

Oh then go with cross

[broken seal]

All of em are pretty good, Cross Stitch is generally the best one

[blazing ocean]

Its op

[blazing ocean]

Can i get an answer why most guys in this server play aut

[broken seal]

haven't played that game in literally months lmao maybe even a year atp

[ashen steeple]

I’ve played using mostly just the needle

Like barely any red tools or silken skills

[broken seal]

makes sense, Cross Stitch is probably the best for you then as that one most compliments needle focused gameplay

[neat python]

Its crazy that its already been a year since silksong came out😭😭 time flies🥹

[broken seal]

what

[earnest drift]

it's been a quarter year

[neat python]

Ikr its insane

[ashen steeple]

Clawline i use a lot because its a free use pretty much

[broken seal]

but i'd recommend messing around with all of them to see what you like best

[blazing ocean]

Man nowadays is basically speedrunning

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[sharp slate]

all white silk skills have their use except rune rage tbh

[neat python]

Bald guy crying gif

[broken seal]

i lowkey forgot about rune rage lol

yeah rune rage kinda ass BUT it's really funny and when it works it's super hype

[heavy arch]

bro i need rosary for the map

how am i supposed to get that

[neat python]

Farm enemy

[blazing ocean]

Rng dmg high or low or no

[broken seal]

if you go back to this room, head to the right, and break the hidden wall, it'll lead to some rosary rocks that add up to 60 rosaries

[ashen steeple]

I like to save the stringed up ones for that

[neat python]

Life ain't easy out here in pharloom like hallownest

[broken seal]

and from killing enemies ofc

[heavy arch]

oh wait enemies give rosary

i didnt even realize

[broken seal]

only some of them, in your area mainly the pilgrims

they only respawn after sitting at a bench

[neat python]

Illusion2 why are you evil

[blazing ocean]

So basically i play with this ui on mobile and i did all heart bosses first try beside antmommy took me 2 tries

[thin charm]

only "sentient" type enemies have rosaries

[summer sphinx]

Yeahh no

[sharp slate]

yea, humaniod enemies drop rosaries not beasts sadly

[broken seal]

because i'm the alternate version if the real illusion2 (different guy who talks here)

[blazing ocean]

I mean do u expect some uncivilized enemies to hold beads

[neat python]

Woah

[twin summit]

mobile?!?!

[thin charm]

small beasts no rosaries
pilgrims yes
choir pilgrims very much yes
craws yes
larger skarr yes
shellwood plants no
etc

[blazing ocean]

Yes

[neat python]

🥶🥶🥶

[thin charm]

the 212% in your nickname, is that just a joke or do you actually have 112% in hk on mobile and 100% skong

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-hands-gif-5686777716953555005

[blazing ocean]

Yes

[neat python]

Just think how rich the enemies would be in that area and thats how many rosario they will give

[thin charm]

how do you have that sort of patience on mobile

[blazing ocean]

Have proof

[blazing ocean]

I mean i lock alot when i have candies before playing

[balmy wraith]

it isnt hard to master mobile

surprisingly

[blazing ocean]

But after finishing both games 2 times i feel like when i play am doing chores

Got bored alot lately

[summer sphinx]

My cocoon is in high halls and my bench is currently at the bellway
If you dont know what that looks like

[blazing ocean]

Silkeater my goat

[neat python]

Why delete video i was watching that

[balmy wraith]

ventrica

[earnest drift]

weavelight is good for absolute radiance

[blazing ocean]

Wanna see proof

[cerulean sable]

A3 Spoilers - this post still kills me

[summer sphinx]

Cause it was the wrong one

[neat python]

I dare you guys to do a whole playthrough with that annoying ass parasite which wriggles and squeaks at you the whole time

[graceful oyster]

Mio

[thin charm]

i believe you

[broken seal]

Twisted bud ain't even that bad

[blazing ocean]

I did the zote precept thingy as well

[thin charm]

why though

[blazing ocean]

I liked the sound in the theme

[thin charm]

eugh

[neat python]

Bro leave him alone😭😭

[neat python]

I was actually tweakin when I had this attached to me

[thin charm]

they should make the sound constant during cursed crest

[broken seal]

better or worse than cursed crest gameplay

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-24607778

[neat python]

Best crest

[blazing ocean]

Is it me or does silksong has 2 seperate achievements for not binding silk and defeating her with paraskte

[ancient mortar]

@graceful oyster is glitch trail busted too

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[blazing ocean]

Beast = best

Needle output

[broken seal]

binding her is normal ending, playing needolin (after silk and soul is completed) gets an achievement and unlocks act 3, and beating her while cursed gives cursed ending

[summer sphinx]

Citadel is messed up

[blazing ocean]

And not binding her after defeating her ?

[summer sphinx]

WHY do i keep sending the wrong image im stupid

[neat python]

Silksong is just a slower paced version of brawlhalla

[blazing ocean]

Brawlhalla?

[neat python]

[exotic cedar]

I don't think that thing exists

[broken seal]

? Wdym

[summer sphinx]

This one

[exotic cedar]

Like, not binding her

[blazing ocean]

There is an ending for silk doing smth if u dont bind her

[broken seal]

there is not 💔

[neat python]

Who wrote that tho

W bug guy who wrote this

[exotic cedar]

Maybe cut content? Idk

[blazing ocean]

There is infact search it up if u stay for long enough while not binding shes gonna do smth different

Im pretty sure u get sealed with her

[broken seal]

yea but there's not a separate achievement

[blazing ocean]

Wait really

[heavy arch]

im borreeddddd

[neat python]

Who is better sherma or gus fring

[heavy arch]

early game is always so boring in hk and silksong

[blazing ocean]

Then whats the 2 endings im missing beside the cursed one

[broken seal]

mr mushroom

[blazing ocean]

Actually 1 ending missing

[blazing ocean]

Oh fuck

[neat python]

[blazing ocean]

That guy

[broken seal]

yes

[heavy arch]

shi is boring

i mean not in metroidvanias

but in hollow knight and silksong

[blazing ocean]

Roblox

[heavy arch]

huh

[broken seal]

game becomes much more fun after unlocking sprint/dash, but for now just take your time and explore

[heavy arch]

im running in circles

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/oie-oie-eye-eye-new-meme-2026-oioi-gif-1246152839019036726

Bros pronounce

[rotund sable]

Hollow Knight Silksong Areas I unlocked in Act 1

Bone Bottom
The Marrow
Deep Docks
Far Fields
Greymoor
Bellhart
Shellwood
Hunter’s March
Sinner’s Road
Bilewater (Bench and Fast Travel Only)
The Slab (Kidnapped and escaped from it)
Wormways
Weavenest Atla
Weavenest Cindril:

Silksong Bosses I beat in Act 1

Bell Beast
Fourth Chorus
Great Conchflies
Lace (Deep Docks)
Moorwing (east entrance to Bellhart)
Moss Mother (Ruined Chapel)
Double Moss Mother (Weavenest Atla)
Savage Beastfly (Chapel of the Beast)
Sister Splinter
Skull Tyrant (The Marrow The Terrible Tyrant Wish)
Widow

Silk Skills and Ancestral Arts I unlocked in Act 1

Silkspear
Thread Storm
Swift Step
Cling Grip
Needolin

Silksong Crests I unlocked in Act 1

Hunter Crest (Evolved and all slots unlocked)
Reaper Crest (all slots unlocked)
Beast Crest (all slots unlocked)
Wanderer Crest
First Vesticrest (Yellow)

Red Tools I unlocked in Silksong Act 1

Straight Pin
Threefold Pin
Sting Shard
Tacks
Longpin
Curveclaw
Flintslate
Flea Brew
Plasmium Phial
Needle Phial

Blue Tools I unlocked in Silksong Act 1

Druid’s Eye
Magma Bell
Warding Bell
Polip Pouch
Fractured Mask
Multibinder
Weavelight

Yellow Tools I Unlocked in Silksong Act 1

Compass
Shard Pendant
Magnetite Brooch
Weighted Bell
Barbed Bracelet
Dead Bug’s Purse

[heavy arch]

tf u on abt

[blazing ocean]

The heck

[rotund sable]

this is what I lost

on my mobile save file

[blazing ocean]

The heck bro got to the slab before act 2

[neat python]

Thats unfortunatelil bro❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹🗿✌️🥹💀🍷😂

[broken seal]

since you're new i'd focus on getting rosaries for map, quill, and compass. Also, if you go up from girl who sells maps then you'll unlock a combat ability that'll open up some other things as well

[earnest drift]

clawline makes absrad final phase a joke wow

[graceful oyster]

Nah that one's peak

[heavy arch]

like this one?

[neat python]

Maybe these games ain't for you dawgington💀

[graceful oyster]

Great for crowd control

[heavy arch]

OH I NEVER EVEN NOTICED THAT

[graceful oyster]

Spoiler tags when

[blazing ocean]

Madam lace do you like being called a male or female or silk

[heavy arch]

OOPS I JUST WENT LEFT

[rotund sable]

you all dont what im feeling right now

[broken seal]

you did not get multibinder in act 1 lil bro

[neat python]

If you are willingly getting backseated like this then there is bigger problems at hand

[broken seal]

ye

[rotund sable]

yes I did

[blazing ocean]

Yiu do

[earnest drift]

i identify as male but idc if i get called she/her

[graceful oyster]

Is this a boss setup or are you casually running drought?

[blazing ocean]

Gae

[heavy arch]

tf am i supposed to do abt this

[arctic epoch]

🙏 this ragebait

[ancient mortar]

i put it on for bosses, and use thinner frame otherwise

[neat python]

💀💀💀💀

[graceful oyster]

Also holy heck give Mel some love. She needs those cores.

(You're missing a lot of Mel mods)

[rotund sable]

yes i did I beat widow and did the my wish courier task

[blazing ocean]

Basically sit there keep destroying and eventually you will reach him

[broken seal]

mb i was thinking of smth else

[neat python]

Not surprised you dont enjoy the game if you are going around asking about every single thing

[heavy arch]

r u trolling

[blazing ocean]

Nah im fr

[ancient mortar]

most of them didn't seem useful

[neat python]

You will break through eventually

[arctic epoch]

twin, why are you asking things here when you're not even 5% into the game 🙏

[broken seal]

Head to the left and up

[ancient mortar]

also

[void moat]

you need to progress until you get an ability

[blazing ocean]

[rotund sable]

im gonna pay someone 5000 dollars to play this for me only what is in this list I cant do it again

[ionic gale]

36 mins in and I'm at far fields, y'all think I could make it to the citadel in like 1h 15 min?

[arctic epoch]

you have only ONE other path to go btw 🙏

[rotund sable]

in mobile

[broken seal]

they're trolling, head left and up and come back after unlocking the ability

[blazing ocean]

If i said khann is a coward what would u do

[heavy arch]

damn bro

[broken seal]

holy shit 5000 dollars???

[heavy arch]

?tag gitgud

[white sail]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[graceful oyster]

Okie now I'll comment on the build. Looks very effective and fun.

[neat python]

Yes

[graceful oyster]

Hand's Greed is interesting

[heavy arch]

omg im so dumb

[broken seal]

i could get that whole list done asap bro 🤑

[heavy arch]

when theres an intersection i always forget to take the other path

[arctic epoch]

best to not ask anything at all in here, just play the game at your own pace

[heavy arch]

ok

[blazing ocean]

Yall heart abt grindle new dlc its called burglarsland

[rotund sable]

can you do it on mobile

?

[broken seal]

if you lock in maybe, but probably not. That's fine tho, you're still on a perfectly good pace for sub 5 hour

[exotic cedar]

Silksong if it was good

[ancient mortar]

i feel like the bonus damage on empty charge is really useful for hairpin setups

[earnest drift]

absrad is more fun as hornet

[broken seal]

it'd be a crazy learning curve but yeah ig i could

[void moat]

id say that youre wrong cause you are

[blazing ocean]

Play the game

[exotic cedar]

Hmm can you facedance as hornet

[graceful oyster]

It is. ||It activates in time for shairpin too.||

[rotund sable]

make a new slot for me I pay you 5k dollars

[broken seal]

what currency

[blazing ocean]

Ahh yes i did his entire gaunlet first try with him being in the first try

[broken seal]

does not equate to cowardice

[blazing ocean]

Ong

Id speedrun it

5k dollars is like damn buying an entire apartment in my country

[rotund sable]

only this @blazing ocean I want to play act 2

[round creek]

Due to insane lag i am getting i cant even get to the platform with a judge on last judge runback before dying in stupid ways

[broken seal]

what currency is the 5k in 🤑

[ancient mortar]

i think im trying to avoid using ||shairpin just so the games harder. but i still want to do a hairpin build as its more fun.||

[blazing ocean]

Oh btw you can go to sinners road

[summer sphinx]

So I accidentally walked into the high halls gauntlet

I didn't make it

[rotund sable]

@blazing ocean I will dm you

[ionic gale]

you do know you could just use a save editor to edit any save back to that progress right?

https://silksongsaveeditor.com/

[void moat]

Would ti even work on a pirated mobile port?

[blazing ocean]

No

[ionic gale]

(it kinda did for me...)

[ancient mortar]

@graceful oyster im still a little lost on how much shairpin actually adds, is it similar to sawtooth in potential dps increase

[ionic gale]

if you can access your com.android folder, you can access your saves in com.game.silksong/files/default

[ionic gale]

what's shairpin

[kindred willow]

Guys I'm in a Silksongy mood

Tell me a random and fascinating Silksong fact

[ionic gale]

"The Soul Tyrant"

Check inside
Pinstress pfp

[still osprey]

The pin that gives you the Craw Summons can damage Hornet if she moves into where's it's being thrown with precise timing

[earnest drift]

even though the weavers were much worse rulers than the pale king, would you consider them to be more competent in containing a god than pale king was

[cerulean sable]

might be a take

but SoS i feel is gonna be the size of like 2.5-3 minor DLCs barring Godmaster

[ancient mortar]

sorry comparing unlockables from another game to silksong

[cerulean sable]

or maybe im over exaggerating it

or expecting too much

[ionic gale]

ohhh

[ionic gale]

you can throw the flea brew bottle after it's finished

[fiery burrow]

If barnacle bay is in I assume it'll have more than 2 quests which is like grimm troupe and hidden dreams combined

Maybe not as many bosses though

[ionic gale]

wait what did hidden dreams add again? i forgor

[fiery burrow]

White Defender and Grey Prince Zote

Also dreamgate iirc

[main urchin]

I think Hornet’s got a better shot at Smash Bros than the Knight

Just because it’s more normal sounding for the announcer to say “Hornet” than “The Knight”

[ionic gale]

ohhh

[ionic gale]

They could just say "Vessel"

[still osprey]

How long did it take for Hidden Dreams to come out after it was revealed

[unkempt steeple]

7 years

They had to turn it into a seperate game becuse they had too much fun making it

[light swan]

heres the thing

its very hard to quantify

[ionic gale]

if sea of sorrow releases after April, watch team cherry tweet "We had so much fun making Sea of Sorrow, We decided to make it a seperate game!"

[light swan]

because you deal soo much more damage than you do wirhout mods

[unkempt steeple]

Based alert

They should turn every silksong dlc into their own games

[main urchin]

you are the vessel

you are the… hollow knight

[light swan]

it’s not just “oh shairpin doubles your damage”

[ionic gale]

No I'm the seal

[opaque sigil]

it kind of depends on how you use it (and it got changed in a recent patch to be a bit less overpowered since it's harder to infinitely spam)

[light swan]

the interactions with other mods matters

[graceful oyster]

Sorry I was making smoothies
It's not as much as Sawtooth but that's not a good comparison of power

[light swan]

no id say its far more

although it heavily depends

[graceful oyster]

It does

[light swan]

because by endgame you probably deal like 10x your normal damage or smth

the difference between a good and a bad build is CRAZY

and shairpin is part of the "good build" category

[graceful oyster]

Yeah idk

[mystic chasm]

when i beat lost lace is my game supposed to change? because i beat lost lace and then i go back into my svae and i still have the quest

[light swan]

if we're just talking about a good build with or without shairpin, then shairpin does not matter too much

[main urchin]

That’s cuz it’s the ending

[broken seal]

no, nothing changes, you just get the achievement

[mystic chasm]

oh ok 👍

[graceful oyster]

It's hard to quantify

[light swan]

there are so many mods that just double or triple your output that by lategame it just isnt very impactful

[ancient mortar]

what made it harder to spam? i thought its damage was just reduced

[rotund sable]

is there no mobile version for this

[light swan]

well you dont get energy back

if shairpin doubles your output , say a 100% damage increase, but by lategame you have like 1000% stacked up with your mods, an extra 100% is not going to do a lot

thats why shairpin is weird and why the impact of mods in this game is weird

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-phantom-silksong-silksong-phantom-exhaust-organ-gif-2019283753967779718

[light swan]

mods and tools are not comparible

[blazing ocean]

Guys is it me king grimm feels and looks like phantom

[earnest drift]

phantom is better than grimm

[vast bolt]

Trance remix of Choral Chambers please.

[earnest drift]

despite hornet having a larger hitbox radiance's attacks feel easier to dodge as hornet

[blazing ocean]

Source?

[blazing ocean]

Her entire build is all about mobility

[earnest drift]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sapp-soupp-sapsoupp-II1brIbYMTAjWoe3Oh

[spice cargo]

Hornets double jump feels smoother than hollowknights

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-nightmare-king-grimm-edit-gif-6244953607213386862

[sharp slate]

more mobility, less floaty

[graceful oyster]

I think hairpin is too strong

[ancient mortar]

MIO SPOILERS @graceful oyster @light swan Good fight, not a fan of those hitboxes catching me when im behind it.

[blazing ocean]

More frames added to it

[graceful oyster]

Less iframes please

[graceful oyster]

Oh wait heck yeah I love that boss

Nice job finding it

[blazing ocean]

Is that game for mobile

[graceful oyster]

No

[blazing ocean]

Aww man

[rocky jolt]

i

[light swan]

to be fair you are right inside the boss

if this was any other game you wouldve gotten smited for contact damage years ago lol

[lavish apex]

mio ||poltergates|| are so good for no reason

[ancient mortar]

yeah im not saying its terrible design just said im not a fan of it working that way. don't feel like i should get hit when im still not touching the part taht should be damaging. specially in a game balanced around no contact damage.

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/гранат-gif-2803100266102084479

[light swan]

what part should be damaging then?

[graceful oyster]

Shairpin again?

[tulip spire]

Looks like the trick is to prefire the bind on the dive attack

[light swan]

you can also bind above all her dashes and her slashes

well maybe not her dashes, those seem a little too fast to get into place, but her dashes definitely

[ancient mortar]

the door thats slamming

[light swan]

i just didnt do it in the videos

[ancient mortar]

wasnt using it this fight

[light swan]

yea... the entire door thats slamming towards you, including the top of the door lol

i get you but i feel like its a bit unrealistic

[tulip spire]

The issue I was having against loose lays was that she was just not sitting in place long enough to safely bind or she was parrying my dumb ass

[ancient mortar]

well it was moving away from me, i was behind it.

[graceful oyster]

Oh are you just hitting like immediately after pinning?

[tulip spire]

When I tried to bind

[ancient mortar]

wildcat

[graceful oyster]

That's cool

[light swan]

peep the screenshot notice how youre inside of it

[light swan]

you can still safely bind against almost all her attacks

[summer sphinx]

Please tell me this is the last wave

[light swan]

the only attacks you cant bind to are uhhh

• her triple dash
• her grounded void tentacles
• her void bullet projectiles
• when shes idle

[ancient mortar]

is there any other mod that adds as much damage as shairpin

[light swan]

yes

less easy to get the full benefit out of it like shairpin though because shairpin is on hairpin, your best defensive option

[sharp slate]

i wish i could

[light swan]

even then, theres a lot of things that are closer to shairpins levels

and its playstyle dependent too

[tulip spire]

This is the first time I’ve actually seen what this game looks like and the backgrounds look super nice. Player character does tend to collapse into a mess of shit on the combo animations though so I’m not sure where the hitboxes are

[tulip spire]

Even the dash attack? That one feels too fast to position safely

[light swan]

her triple dash?

[broken seal]

Yes

[tulip spire]

The one with the aerial mixup

[light swan]

her triple SLASH you can bind against but i just said her triple dash you cant bind agaist

[finite swift]

the high halls gauntlet is so fun

[light swan]

if she uses her aerial mixup then you can bind

[tulip spire]

Ah I misread

[light swan]

if she continues into a dash or a grounded void tentacles instead then nah

[ancient mortar]

She moves around weird as its her hair thats the weapon

[lost nest]

lads, i jsut got 100% completion

i havent even beat lost lace yet and i have 100% 😭

[light swan]

also, things get a bit complicated but i think its easy to get used to esp cuz you start the game without any of those visual effects

[tulip spire]

The projectile spam also feels unsafe but also like whenever she does that crap I usually just focus on dodging

[kindred willow]

Okay hear me out, the Soul Tyrant is the boss from HK I was most personally attached to, while Pinstress was the one from HK I was most attached to

Silksong is my favorite of the two games, but I’m too lazy to change my username

[light swan]

theres generally a visual hitbox like this and its much easier to see ingame

btw @ancient mortar did you use foolish ideal mod

[graceful oyster]

Looks like it

[lavish apex]

there is exactly 1 time where i think the visuals on mio's attacks hurt the gameplay in any meaningful way

[light swan]

nice

[graceful oyster]

Ideal is S tier

[light swan]

see, there are mods like those which are just damage boosts

and you can get a lot them

and with all of them, shairpin feels less impactful since you can deal so much damage

[tulip spire]

That door wasn’t exactly putting the effort in so it didn’t look like a super hard fight I was just kinda like “wait where is the avatar in space”

[light swan]

whats an avatar in space 😭

[lavish apex]

what is foolish ideal again

[tulip spire]

The player avatar

[ancient mortar]

the one that boosts your damage on low energy? yeah

[tulip spire]

Where in space is it

[light swan]

boosts damage when you dont have full energy

[tulip spire]

The visual fx kinda muddy her exact position

[lavish apex]

oh right that

i like that one

[light swan]

also synergies like these is what makes shairpin especially strong too

since you will ALWAYS get the foolish ideal boost on shaiprin no batter what

whereas other stuff, not so much

also you have glitch trail obviously, thats another thing that makes shairpin stronger

cuz the more you shairpin the more you stack glitch trail the more damage you do

because of that i cant really quantify "how much" shairpin increases your damage by

[lavish apex]

by itself it's not very much

[graceful oyster]

It's a lot

[lavish apex]

unless you can crit consistently, which is very hard

[light swan]

we all have such conflicting answers

anyways blebbles youre completely wrong imperfect shairpin is still very strong

but it still likely scales less with more damage upgrades

[ancient mortar]

Well like comparing foolish ideal, shairpin, and glitch trail and then those 2 without shairpin how much changes

[graceful oyster]

If I fight a boss with zero damage ups and no mods, then do the same with just shairpin, the fight will take a quarter as long

[heady iron]

damn, more people to block

[graceful oyster]

Blocking people for Mio discussion is a sad sad life

[light swan]

not much

[light swan]

this is the best way to describe it

[lavish apex]

if you don't use the game mechanics then it's better, great argument

[heady iron]

never mentioned mio

[light swan]

i never made an argument, just pointed out a potential reason for whats happening with you

[graceful oyster]

Oh okay. Context made it seem like that

[lavish apex]

then what were you talking about?

[light swan]

ive yet to go back and check damage numbers anyway

ive been planning to and i lowkey should but busy

[kind tide]

Why not

:/

[light swan]

busy

chances are, imperfect shairpin is very strong earlygame and weak lategame

[lavish apex]

on average it seems like it barely does more than the first hit of a combo with higher legacies

[graceful cairn]

i block people so big number gets bigger

[light swan]

holy shit man perfect does a lot

[narrow bramble]

Ngl for me architect crest is good for some complicated battles and farming rosaries

[earnest drift]

why would you use architect to farm

[spice cargo]

farming roasaries is easy once you got both act 2 needle upgrades

[narrow bramble]

Yeah the last needle upg from act 2 is good tho

[graceful oyster]

Which is already damage during the safest move in your kit

So any damage would be good let alone high damage

[light swan]

the Shairpin Games

[narrow bramble]

Just charge up the attack (focus attack) and hit that one giant guy on that hallway that leads to the memorium n cogwork core/cogwork dancers

[earnest drift]

ugh snitch pick doesn't work on absrad
tc release patch 5 already

[ancient mortar]

how is it different than glitch trail tho

[light swan]

depends on the boss

for smth that stands in the glitch trail a lot, its probably more impactful than an imperfect shairpin

im guessing

BRO geodudes have too much hp for me to test against

[wraith python]

What are the triggers to unlock the ||silk and soul|| quest

[versed pollen]

Now why would you block me

[graceful oyster]

It's not guaranteed damage I guess. Nor is it near as much on average. It's situational.

[light swan]

bulbasaurs also dont have enough hp

i guess ill just have to test against the final boss

[graceful oyster]

Shut it

Bulbasaurs have more than enough

[light swan]

not for a 3 hit combo

[summer sphinx]

My hands are shaking

[graceful oyster]

Oh enough to test something

[light swan]

heres 1 hit for reference

[graceful oyster]

Phew

[light swan]

they tank a perfect shairpin btw

but definitely not enough for a 3 hit combo

[wraith python]

Thats enough Silksong for the night

[light swan]

on full damage upgrades

[sharp slate]

Eyo congrats

[lavish apex]

so shairpin does scale slower with legacies then

[light swan]

yea most likely

[hard apex]

I hate this goddamn game

I died to a mouse bro

[light swan]

how do people move without sunsail

[summer sphinx]

Meanwhile idk what shairpin or sunsnail is

[fallow sorrel]

What does this have to do with mio

I meant bulbasaur

[light swan]

the enemy is named bulbasaur

[raw pawn]

Ngl I think the pantheons in silksong will be easier than in HK

Especially because how easy it is to heal

[fallow sorrel]

IT IS???

[light swan]

OK SO

3 hit combo vs perfect shairpin on 0 damage upgrades @lavish apex

wait let me get an imperfect too

[raw pawn]

Wait what's the difference between the godhome mod and the pantheon of Pharloom mod?

If anyone tried these

[tight viper]

This was very intentional

I totally meant to do that

[light swan]

imperfect vs 3 hit combo vs perfect

[raw pawn]

Okay so the pantheon of Pharloom mod is just a better godhome mod (along with adding 3 pantheons)

[light swan]

@lavish apex

notice how imperfect and perfect are close to 3 hit combo

[tight viper]

I've never tried the Godhome mod but I've heard it's not as good

[raw pawn]

Get the pantheon of Pharloom mod it's better

[light swan]

on all damage upgrades, perfect shairpin doesnt kill but 3 hit combo does

[tight viper]

I've been using PoP since I first started doing mods for SK

[lavish apex]

this is with how many legacies?

[light swan]

0

[raw pawn]

Are you using cogfly?

[light swan]

ima report this to devs

[raw pawn]

It lets you install mods without needing to add them manually

Just like lumafly

[broken seal]

lumafly, cogfly

silkfly will be the next one i'm calling it

[graceful oyster]

Fruit fly

[raw pawn]

Item randomizer doesn't work in cogfly for some reason

[earnest drift]

yes and i'm fighting absrad as hornet

[graceful oyster]

I can't wait for eggnog to hit the shelves again

[undone gate]

Is AbsRad harder as the Knight or harder as Hornet

[spark anchor]

would you put signis and gron in a hypothetical pantheon 2 or 3

[spark anchor]

if we ignore the nearly unavoidable wall of light probably equal

abyss shriek vs sawtooth tech

[earnest drift]

harder as hornet i think

[raw pawn]

Can you sharpdart that wall?

[spark anchor]

but uh the knight being a walking tungsten cube likely makes it easier

[earnest drift]

but cross stitch is very useful

[spark anchor]

yeah you can even parry it

[earnest drift]

so is hornet's healing

[graceful oyster]

@light swan I feel like it's kinda okay though, as a concept, because it costs SO MUCH to use when you're earlier on and it's basically free later

[spark anchor]

there are only 2 ways to avoid radiance's wall of light

[earnest drift]

voltvessels stake and curvesickle are also pretty broken

[earnest drift]

plus warding bell but that costs more silk than it would cost to heal the dmg

[spark anchor]

well yeah but that's really impractical

[raw pawn]

Also downloaded the mod that makes hornet say git gud when you die cause it's kinda funny

[spark anchor]

sharpdart pretty much covers what shade cloak would do

[undone gate]

Doesn't Radience have a pretty small hitbox so Sawtooth tech would harder than Abyss Shreak

[light swan]

i still just want it to like.... be even

[raw pawn]

There is also the tech of using your needle

[light swan]

or evener

at the very least check if this is intended behavior, or smth the devs have thought about

[earnest drift]

cogwork dancers is harder than radiance's final phase as hornet

[unkempt steeple]

Spamslop vs techslop

[raw pawn]

What's with every enemy turning into gron in the randomizer can gron leave me alone

[unkempt steeple]

Was sawtooth circlet made for the tech specifically I don't see how it's useful in a casual way

[earnest drift]

yeah

[arctic epoch]

jump + attack is casual

[raw pawn]

Sawtooth can be good against flying enemies too

[spark anchor]

signis is funnier since he sometimes appears floating and talking to no one

[earnest drift]

voltvessels stake is hornet's abyss shriek

[spark anchor]

he shouts when you walk in front of him

[fallow sorrel]

@grok becone a mossgrub

[mental snow]

Beat Savage Beastfly again in Steel Soul, and I just felt my stomach relax. I didn't even feel how much anxiety I had until I won.

[spark anchor]

lost lace turned into a voided beastfly lmao

[copper hedge]

w

so how's hunter's march

[mental snow]

I forget that a lot of people see Beastfly beaten in Steel Soul as an amazing achievement

[mental snow]

Eh not bad, the Hunter's Pogo does wonders for distance

But time to learn Beast Crest, at last

I saved 2 Memory Lockets for it

[spark anchor]

it has 3 attacks man

[shadow crow]

arguably worse

[mental snow]

Bit of a shame it has no blue, so I'll have to rush lockets

[spark anchor]

slam, charge and summon enemy

[dull ermine]

ok is the perfect list now

[spark anchor]

wbelt glaze

i can live

[raw pawn]

lmao the mod turns shards and rosaries into random items too

[arctic epoch]

Barbed Bracelets in F?

[mental snow]

If we dumb all bosses down to how many attacks there are, almost every boss in the game is just 3 or 4 attacks, bar the late game ones

[copper hedge]

its not really hard. just annoying, especially the summons. especially if its a viscious anarchid

[earnest drift]

thanks for not putting snitch pick in F but why barbed bracelet

[spark anchor]

they're easily telegraphed

if this is about far fields beastfly yeah its a lot harder

[dull ermine]

absolutely detrimental to 99% of the playerbase so yes

[mental snow]

Man I ain't even gonna try to argue

[earnest drift]

but the 1% is smarter

[hard apex]

I'm broke because I died to moorwing and then died to a fucking mouse on my way back to fight him again

[arctic epoch]

so what is this tierlist about?

[fallow sorrel]

I LOVE barbed bracelet

[hard apex]

I hate this game so much

[mental snow]

Beast not having any blue slots is really shit.

[dull ermine]

actually probably like 100% on a first playthrough

[arctic epoch]

Beast not having a blue slots is a grace to all the other crest 🙏

[mental snow]

I'd assume a more combat-focused Crest would lack yellow slots.

[earnest drift]

beast is its own blue slot

[copper hedge]

hmmmm.... does witch only have blue and red tool slots right?

[mental snow]

I mean what damage buff is pretty good anyway

[restive ibex]

Tier lists shouldn't cater to the lowest common denominator. That completely violated the purpose of a tier list unless it's specifically a tier list for scrubs

[arctic epoch]

it's great that Beast slot layout is balanced based on how much raw power it has, and no its category

[mental snow]

Yeah

Not sure why that is but, probably because of its bind effect

[arctic epoch]

its raw power is very low compared to other crest

[mental snow]

I guess the Barbed Bracelet is a combat charm, and the Weighted Belt could be useful

[dull ermine]

so why do people rank fury as a b tier charm, when it offers a 3x better buff and doesn't make gameplay actively dangerous?

[raw pawn]

compass is actually even better in silksong than hollow knight cause it's competing against other yellow tools while most of them suck

[arctic epoch]

aren't we talking about silksong?

[arctic epoch]

Barbed Bracelet is a combat tool

[restive ibex]

Because they also didn't know how a tier list is supposed to work

[mental snow]

Well I fucking died so, we're not focusing on that file anymore

[raw pawn]

I wonder if there is a mod that randomizes rooms

[dull ermine]

so you're saying we should base tierlists on tas gameplay

[restive ibex]

High skill, not TAS specifically

[arctic epoch]

"unless it's specifically a tier list for scrubs"

[earnest drift]

barbed bracelet is balanced and does not need a rework

[dull ermine]

barbed braclet is still f tier

[light swan]

theres enough of a population using barbed bracelet

[arctic epoch]

if you're gonna do a tierlist based on a certain category, please do mention it before bombarding us with an image

[restive ibex]

TAS only would completely alter the list

[restive ibex]

Scrub mentality for a scrub tier list got it

[light swan]

its more like a 7:3 ratio of people using vs people not using barbed bracelet

[raw pawn]

but I think fractured mask should be in A instead

[dull ermine]

so you want me to say "here's my tool tierlist" before posting the image instead of saying it with the image

[arctic epoch]

it has its uses

[earnest drift]

fractured mask should never be in S tier and i will die on that hill

[dull ermine]

honestly if you're good at the game barbed braclet is still not that good

I've beaten pantheon of pharloom and steel soul, and I would never put it on

[arctic epoch]

no, i'm asking that you would bare us the extra questions by going "Here's my tierlist based on a certain category + image" and not "Is this a perfect tierlist? + image", people would agree with you more than otherwise

[restive ibex]

"it's f tier because I'm too bad to use it"

[weak depot]

It's like saying fotf is a bad charm

[knotty yoke]

What is the most useless red tool in you guys opinion?

[weak depot]

Rosary cannon

[arctic epoch]

uhhh, compass

[knotty yoke]

Compass isn't even a red tool 😭

[dull ermine]

completely different, barbed braclet actively makes the game way more punishing, and it was already extremely punishing. fury adds an optional buff at low hp, and also has a reward that is way higher

[dull ermine]

also based on this you js said hk fireborn is a scrub who's trash at the game lmao

anyways can we talk about anything else other than the most boring tool in the game

[sharp slate]

fireborn is a scrub 😎

[raw pawn]

if I rank based on steel soul tho I would put fractured mask, plasmium phial and shell satchel in S

[weak depot]

Fury activates when you're 1 hit, what's the difference? Bracelet gives you extra damage at all times in return for taking extra damage. Fury gives you high damage because it only activates when you're one hit

[restive ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/strawman-argument-debate-ref-debate-referee-meme-gif-3897723626715654039

[dull ermine]

"if fireborn isn't ranking fury as the best charm he's just a scrub who sucks at the game"

[arctic epoch]

yeah, well i'd think its wise that both party discuss this silksong powerscaling in only silksong's universe, but who am i to ask right?

it doesn't make the game that extrememly punishing because hazards have been nerfed and you can actively avoid mobs while only fight boss
and +25% Damage is pretty amazing considering the amount of stuff it buffs and the amount of stuff that buff itself before the barbed buff

[sharp slate]

barbed braclet i used in pantheon of pharloom mod, its good for high skilled players

[earnest drift]

fireborn does suck though

[arctic epoch]

i'm not gonna ask why weavelight and egg of flealia is so low when they're both so good and even stronger when combined together on a certain crest

[dull ermine]

right, to prove that your argument is flawed

[sharp slate]

its bad for low skilled or too high risk senarios

speedrunning currently it is too high risk

hence why someone in speedrunning wouldnt use it atm

[weak depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1050125859232698429/1200894980940648558/attachment.gif

[dull ermine]

egg is too situational, also weavelight just isn't very good

[restive ibex]

Strawmanning is the worst way to approach that lmao

At best I implied fireborn doesn't know how to make a tier list

[arctic epoch]

egg allows you to use more silk skill while weavelight allow faster silk skill generation for off-time

[dull ermine]

no u implied that my tierlist was a scrub tierlist for scrubs, like fireborns

[restive ibex]

Are you posting fireborns tier list? No? I called out yours

[sharp slate]

i defintely like egg more than weavelight though most players will get more usage out of weavelight

egg is going to probably see play in pantheons when they release eventually

[dull ermine]

nah

it's literally just going to be architects crest builds

[arctic epoch]

egg is always great, allow me lots of cross stitch spam in hitless plays

[sharp slate]

I like it on shaman, but it doesnt fit builds on other crests for me, maybe witch

[arctic epoch]

i mean, egg/weave/volt is meant for shaman anyways

[sharp slate]

actually suprised injector isnt s-tier

[dull ermine]

oh yeah

[sharp slate]

i run egg, volt, saw

[dull ermine]

@restive ibex wouldn't by your definition all healing charms be f tier

[light swan]

fireborn is a very popular youtuber and people will go towards him for the first opinion on what they should use, so his list is oriented towards the general player base

aka, it’s a list for scrubs

[wraith python]

Waiting for sea of sorrow

[dull ermine]

since healing is for scrubs

[arctic epoch]

multibinder gives access to highest burst damage
injector band buff facetanking gameplay

[sharp slate]

tierlists are all perspective anyway, you need to define the criteria

[light swan]

yes! unless you use witch

although still

[restive ibex]

Not if your using them to proc witch crest/mirrors. But plasmium should be low tier yes

[dull ermine]

lmao, this is why you can't rank it on "perfect gameplay"

[light swan]

the healing charms are good at damage

[dull ermine]

not even, just spamming silk skills does more damage at a cheaper cost too

[sharp slate]

highly disagree

[light swan]

because multibinder mirrors is the strongest burst damage except for shaman

[sharp slate]

what is a purpose of tier list how good a tool is or its maximum dps thats two different tier lists

if you are just rating by how good something is injector band is VERY high up

[dull ermine]

yes, but by that definition just use silk skills since u don't need to heal since "healing is for scrubs"

[light swan]

well multibinder mirrors deals more damage than silk skills

[arctic epoch]

not ranking based on perfect gameplay doesn't mean ranking based on safest and most used gameplay tho, just use a high skill gameplay reference

[restive ibex]

Way to show a complete lack of game knowledge. Really highlights how worthless your list is. DPS>raw potential over time

[dull ermine]

it cost more silk as well

[fallow sorrel]

I like running hunters with barbed bracelet, magnetite dice, compass, fractured mask, multibinder, injector bands, flintslate and whatever other red tool im feeling

[light swan]

but silk economy is free in the higher levels of gameplay

[arctic epoch]

like Barbed Bracelets sure is just a flat damage buff in perfect gameplay, and you don't want to rank tools like that
it doesn't mean that Barbed Bracelets is horrible of a tool and should never be used

[raw pawn]

Since beast nerfs flea brew a bit, does wanderer do the same?

[dull ermine]

summary: I ranked barbed f tier, you disagree and I say your logic implies that all healing based tools should be f tier since I'm a scrub, and you disagree

[broken seal]

no, actually. wanderer gets buffed more than most other crests for some reason, it goes batshit

[earnest drift]

i don't think purely defensive tools should be in f tier, but none of them should be in s tier

[restive ibex]

More strawmanning

Learn to debate

You fall in to a lot of fallacies

[sharp slate]

I think injector is gameplay changing

it is incredibly strong

[arctic epoch]

just to compensate for the insane attackspeed buff you get from fury

[glacial kelp]

i need to make an image ranking every tool in f tier

[dull ermine]

dude i think we should js stop ranking tools in a singleplayer video game is not that deep

[sharp slate]

injector band is part of the reason i had so few deaths in my first playthrough and easily did my 100% steel soul

[broken seal]

not every conversation that includes opinions needs to turn into a debate that follows rules of fallacies. just talk like a normal person dude

[restive ibex]

Mirrors with witch and multi bind are very powerful, why would I imply they are bad

[dull ermine]

it's because you're saying that tierlists should be made for the highest skill ceiling

[restive ibex]

If you want to attack my arguments, it's absolutely valid to bring up fallacies

[dull ermine]

so why would defensive charms not be f tier, they have very limiting actual offensive potential outside some situational buffs, and even then the buffs aren't substantial anyways

[restive ibex]

When I'm being strawmanned harder than the wizard of oz

[arctic epoch]

well, this arguement started because you made a crest kinda based on the skill floor tho, just kinda, a tiny bit

[glacial kelp]

well i think its annoying if the opposing points are invalid but yeah

[dull ermine]

like can u respond to this

[arctic epoch]

injector band and multibinder provide insane values on facetank gameplay and sometimes offensive healing gameplay twin 🙏

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[lavish apex]

i would rather play hunter with 0 tools than witch personally

[restive ibex]

I did but you can't read I guess

[raw pawn]

What the hell does my account being limited mean? It doesn't let me review silksong on steam because my acc is limited

[glacial kelp]

you havent spent money :(

[arctic epoch]

is that witch slander i'm smelling?

[dull ermine]

ok bro, i gtg sleep now bye

[restive ibex]

Good

Don't come back

[sharp slate]

yikes

[lavish apex]

yes

[raw pawn]

True my friend bought me the game

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[glacial kelp]

you need a minimum of 5$ spent to make reviews and add friends etc

[light swan]

ass gif

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/second-sentinel-ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-gif-14144986572548286793

[light swan]

horrible dash cancel

[lavish apex]

fuckass floaty pogo
fuckass attack speed

[raw pawn]

I have a friend rn tho

[light swan]

who made this shit

[raw pawn]

It's the person who bought me the game

[glacial kelp]

you cant add them but they can add you

like you cant send the request

[light swan]

atyack speed has never impacted me cuz i never use the neutral attack

[lavish apex]

fuckass angled upslash

[broken seal]

don't use the neutral attack it's not worth

[heady iron]

damn someone's already making people angry, my rage baiting is not needed it seems

[light swan]

angles forward so that you can hit things better

[broken seal]

😭

[arctic epoch]

fuckass silksong, ig

[rocky jolt]

if the new crest is just bind to activate gimmick then i aint using it

[glacial kelp]

oh hey its the seth banging shield guy

[light swan]

it’s ok just use reaper crest, the one with an upslash angled backwards

[sharp slate]

here is my 3 minute tier list on blues and yellows (might need to refine a little more)

[arctic epoch]

if the new crest has normal attack, then i ain't using it

[glacial kelp]

can you move the compass tier to above s

[lavish apex]

this one also sucks

[graceful oyster]

You really think Mask and Reserve Bind are allat, huh?

[earnest drift]

snitch pick : (

[tight hare]

Is there a sk version of shade cloak

[restive ibex]

You think we are getting a new crest?

[sharp slate]

Yea, really strong defensive tools

[exotic dome]

fishermans crest where clawline pulls enemies towards you

[light swan]

clawline + dash