sk-discussion

[strange knot]

Gurr is prob top 5 worst fights in sk for me

[smoky bridge]

The traps are fun.
I think it's a fun boss cause it's safer to be less mobile.

[hybrid flare]

That's what i don't like

Restricting mobility in a game about mobility

[smoky bridge]

If you keep trying to move around you're gonna get hit a lot.
Just be calm.

I like it because it is different.

[hybrid flare]

Karm got you fucking

[still osprey]

Gurr is a lot better post-buff

[stable tulip]

The unravelled. He's top 10 or even top 5 for me

[hybrid flare]

Using everything you can use

[whole mortar]

worlds first 1080 degree pavo noscope

[smoky bridge]

I don't like em on beast... The arena is tight and I keep getting stuck on the opposite side of a lava waterfall, or bumping into lava trying to do my attacks.

[edgy patio]

BLUESR

[edgy patio]

hi dude

[edgy patio]

holy trickshot

[leaden juniper]

is that...FIREB0RN??

[hybrid flare]

24 hours in the ninth layer of hell or getting hit by the broodmother goo thingy

[smoky bridge]

Bell Beast is literally Mossy but better!

[midnight jasper]

Bosses I like the most

[hybrid flare]

How does seth manage to keep sneaking in im baffled

[leaden juniper]

if i play as v1, then id take hell but otherwise broodmother

[hybrid flare]

He always screams n shit he cant be this stealthy

[rough galleon]

oh my its bluesr

[strange knot]

Valid second senti is high

[hybrid flare]

I love 2nd sentinel

[midnight jasper]

Rip Pavo

[smoky bridge]

Just realised I put Lost Garmond too high :|

[midnight jasper]

Fun fight tbh

[whole mortar]

second senti actually rules

[smoky bridge]

Sseth is fun.

Probably only on Beast tho.

[whole mortar]

real ones know pinstress is actually the worst fight in the game by far

[edgy patio]

agreed

[still osprey]

Second Sentinel has grown on me a lot

[smoky bridge]

I would not fight Sseth on any other crest.

[whole mortar]

shes cool but so unplayable

[edgy patio]

yeah i agree

[edgy patio]

i know right

[strange knot]

Lost Garmond isn’t fun at all, gets carried by that he is Garmond

[lavish apex]

fire take

[smoky bridge]

Yeah I don't know what he's doing so high in dat list.

[wanton nimbus]

hi blue :3

[still osprey]

I'd argue Zango is right there but like, Zango is really funny even in concept so he gets a pass I think

[strange knot]

I fought pinstress only once ever so I can’t really say anything about her

[smoky bridge]

clutches head why is he above lace.

What the fuck is this tier.

[slim canyon]

That might be the best take I've ever heard

[smoky bridge]

Looking at my own list and realising one specific tier is horribly done.

[hybrid flare]

Like yeah sure, but he's not one of the greats

[smoky bridge]

Garmond and Pinstress are both too high and lace is too low.

[odd hull]

You can't be fr

[strange knot]

Unravvaled is overhated frfr

[whole mortar]

me when my favourite boss is the waiting simulator

[hybrid flare]

It's bad but overhated

[stable tulip]

I have never said something that I meant more. I love him.

[whole mortar]

0 damage windows

[edgy patio]

LMAOOOO

[odd hull]

Underhated. Everyone should hate him more

[whole mortar]

0 interesting attacks

[stable tulip]

He's one of the best bosses I've fought in this game

[edgy patio]

true

[whole mortar]

20000 seconds spent underground

[midnight jasper]

Probably yeah

[smoky bridge]

He's specifically really fun to fight with beast, cause you can pierce the shield, and clash against the aoe he does with the pogo

[whole mortar]

nah im ragebaiting

[edgy patio]

exactly

[whole mortar]

unravelled is overhated he's got those sick ass spears

[leaden juniper]

firb0rn knows ball fr

[strange knot]

Spears are so cool tho

[stable tulip]

Those spears are fire trust

[hybrid flare]

I mean i guess

[edgy patio]

yeah they are really good

[whole mortar]

you just have to treat it as a gauntlet rather than a bossfight

[edgy patio]

i agree

[hybrid flare]

Is it the real john speedrun?

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but they like... One vaguely interesting attack and it's... No Bueno.

[stable tulip]

The whole boss fight is. Every second of that shite I was enjoying it

[exotic fern]

what the fuck are silksong parody accounts doing

[exotic cedar]

What

[stable tulip]

Being possessed by an ancient evil or summat

[hybrid flare]

Pinstress aint that bad

[slim canyon]

??

[midnight jasper]

His hitbox is so big

[still osprey]

This is great actually they should do this more

[midnight jasper]

Bro eats his friends as chicken nuggets

[smoky bridge]

Unraveled is Overravelled.

[midnight jasper]

Next SIlksong DLC lmk.

[strange knot]

I dislike that unravelled goes underground after stagger. Let me grind silk please😭

[smoky bridge]

I wish I could damage him with pogos.

Like ATP I'm just. Tacks and buzzshaw

[midnight jasper]

Tacks work well in the fight

[smoky bridge]

Can't be arsed

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-cat-banana-hungry-void-cat-gif-16626119171143575104

[hybrid flare]

This is a severe understatement

[midnight jasper]

Banana

[slim canyon]

Bananana

[exotic fern]

karak can NOT be this serious

[raw pawn]

Larry eating his potassium

[smoky bridge]

Naming the area Karak makes me associate Khann with the Dwarves...

[slender juniper]

My Mio got updated should I play it

[strange knot]

Sans of karak

[smoky bridge]

The keeper of what is Mio actually. I didn't catch it...

[slender juniper]

@light swan

[smoky bridge]

What is Mio a Keeper of*

[exotic fern]

khann is the shortest of the hearts im pretty sure

[smoky bridge]

Grammatically superior.

[smoky bridge]

He is weak. Hiding behind his men.

[strange knot]

Isn’t he taller than gay couple

[smoky bridge]

(and women, I assume)

[smoky bridge]

There's two of them tho.

[edgy patio]

that's why he is an F tier boss imo

[exotic fern]

yeah but they can turn into a giant ass tornado thats bigger than khann

[raw pawn]

Oh wait he is called crust king khan? I swear he was called krust king 😭

[smoky bridge]

No, That would make his acronym KKK

[exotic fern]

trust me you do NOT want a boss that abbreviates to kkk

[knotty yoke]

Crusty khaan

[raw pawn]

Krusty King Krabb

[edgy patio]

the hardest part of the crust ass khann bossfight is the gauntlets that come behind him, i can do his bossfight in my sleep

[smoky bridge]

Like I don't think Khann was that evil.

He probably wasn't a saint (warlord shtick) ut I see no indication that he was like. Particularly blood thirsty.

[midnight jasper]

Sands of Doom and Despair fire name lmk Team Cherry.

[old cradle]

the fights before Khann were so much more fun than the actual Khann fight

[exotic cedar]

Mm i love making a sacrifice to avoid a boss fight

[exotic fern]

am i the only one who struggled most with nyleth The other old hearts felt really easy to me

[strange knot]

Agreed

[slender juniper]

I just beat up the kkk

[slim canyon]

Yea..

[smoky bridge]

Karmel was harda...

[slender juniper]

It was really easy

[exotic fern]

both khann and his 5 gauntlets are extremely easy

[strange knot]

4 gauntlets*

And I disagree

It was the hardest point of the game for me

[knotty yoke]

I got all the three hearts in the same day, karm was the hardest for me

[midnight jasper]

Nyleth felt really easy

[raw pawn]

Crust King Khann is such a cool name tho

[edgy patio]

i felt bad after shoving my delvers drill 50 feet down nyleth which lead to her death

[midnight jasper]

I struggled with Crust King Khann's gauntlet but I realized there was a shortcut

[exotic cedar]

I don't even remember my experience with nyleth

[raw pawn]

Didn't need the shortcut cause I beat him first try anyway

[exotic fern]

nyleth had the hardest boss in the game guarding her and her fight removes the floor which is typically something that is recommended for combat

[raw pawn]

Nyleth learned from markoth 💔

[slim canyon]

I feel bad for the people who didn't use the shortcut in coral tower

[raw pawn]

No wait Markoth learned from her

[edgy patio]

i did clover dancers instead of crust king they were just a copy paste of cogwork dancers just cling to the right wall and you won't get hit

[exotic fern]

in what scenario do you need to skip khann hes the easiest one

[strange knot]

Clover dancers aren’t good. Just a worse version of cog dancers

[slim canyon]

I did green prince instead of karmelita but after I beat the game I went back and beat karm

[raw pawn]

FUCK FUCK THE COGFLIES OF THE MAESTRO GET RANDOMIZED TOO

[edgy patio]

the gauntlets were shit and ass, i did rebeat them after beating lost lace. (his boss fight is super unfun and bad)

super underwhelming fight too

[exotic fern]

maestro when hes bored so he summons 5 groals

[knotty yoke]

Cogflies turning into 3 of these acid mosquitoes on ducts

[untold dune]

coral tower is about the journey not the destination (gauntletgem)

[midnight jasper]

Oreo orala

[edgy patio]

they are the same thing but i agree

[raw pawn]

"Chlorea" spawns lost lace

[exotic fern]

prediction: tung tung tung sahur will not appear in sea of sorrow

[edgy patio]

we left him in 2025

[midnight jasper]

Do we know this is confirmed

[strange knot]

insert twisted bud my beloved gif cuz i can’t find it

[untold dune]

hi team cherry hear, i can confirm that tung tung tung sahur will appear in sea of sorrow

[edgy patio]

has anybody seen the cut submarine cutscene in silksong?

[exotic fern]

No thays why i said prediction

[midnight jasper]

He will be our next protagonist

[untold dune]

yuh

[edgy patio]

THE BEST PART IN SILKSONG is when you enter the diving bell and in the cutscene you can see a cursor

[midnight jasper]

Tung Tung Tung Sahur saves the Hollow Knight universe and this is canon.

[untold dune]

they removed it sadly (they hate fun)

[edgy patio]

cursors are lore accurate in hollow knight but they rarely appear only seen once in the game

[raw pawn]

That's just ballow gaming

[exotic fern]

im pretty sure like almost all of silksongs cut content will come back in future updates/DLCs and the reason they werent added was to not make the 7 year wait even longer

[midnight jasper]

BallowGamingYT123 coming soon.

[edgy patio]

yeah ik, i did see it because i played the game on release second so when i reached the part i saw that little goofy cursor

[edgy patio]

yeah

[untold dune]

ballow was def on youtube in 2005

[strange knot]

Team cherry removing every fun thing from the game(next thing they are gonna remove is bilewater cuz “everyone” hates it):

[midnight jasper]

Bro was searching for Silksong leaks

[raw pawn]

If they removed gargant glooms from the game I don't think anyone would be mad

[untold dune]

if team cherry were competent we wouldve had silksong in 2011 earliest

[edgy patio]

there will be a steel dlc for the sharpe but idk what 3rd dlc might be

[untold dune]

godhome

[strange knot]

Tf is gargant glooms

[untold dune]

the big guys in abyss

[exotic fern]

snail shaman expansion trust

[strange knot]

Oh that thing. Yeah they suck

[knotty yoke]

Remove plasmified zango and no one will care

[raw pawn]

Nah I like zango

[untold dune]

replace him with plasmified lace

[midnight jasper]

Plasmified Hornet

[edgy patio]

can we please get our lost swimming mechanic back in the dlc? just like when hollow knight had one but it was scrapped

[raw pawn]

I don't like when he appears in my randomizer tho cause he doesn't fucking die

[knotty yoke]

Plasmified trobbio

[rose flax]

anyone got an estimate of how many citadel zombies it took before hornet ended up in the cage?

[strange knot]

Replace him with plasmified thk

[tight hare]

Guys I just beat last judge but I have like no rosaries no nail upgrades and nothing special should I backtrack and do something or keep going

[edgy patio]

69

[midnight jasper]

He heals himself, you can only kill him if you use the Needle Phial

[raw pawn]

BACKTRACK

[untold dune]

no its possible to out dps him its just very annoying

[tight hare]

what should I get?

[edgy patio]

STEREO MADNESS

[slim canyon]

Nail upgrade

[tight hare]

YES

[untold dune]

my favorite silksong item

[edgy patio]

BLAST PROCESSING

[rose flax]

hey atleast it isn’t the other 60 number

[tight hare]

how many?

[raw pawn]

Holy gd reference

[edgy patio]

TIDAL WAVE

[midnight jasper]

Go to the Nailsmith in the top right of Bellhart and you'll get a free nail upgrade

[tender swift]

i had a dream that rtgame was playing silksong and he had this odd catchphrase he kept saying "spit for kratt" (but it was grindle on screen?) and now i cant get that phrase out of my head

[edgy patio]

BLOODBATH

[tight hare]

oh ok bet

[midnight jasper]

Yeah it's just not worth doing

[edgy patio]

GRIEF

[slim canyon]

How much pale oil do you have?

[strange knot]

Tidal wave my favourite number

[raw pawn]

*pinmaster

[tight hare]

like 1

[edgy patio]

TS2

ORBIT

[tender swift]

spit for kratt

[midnight jasper]

You can get 2 upgrades if you didn't get the free one

[slim canyon]

I think the first one doesn't need pale oil so like 2 prolly

[midnight jasper]

Yeah it doesn't

It's free

[knotty yoke]

Needlemaster*

Allweaponsmaster

[raw pawn]

Nah his name is pinmaster

[tight hare]

ok but I have 0 rosaries like on the dot bc I was mad while fighting last judge and I died on the run back bc I’m stubborn and didn’t heal

[knotty yoke]

Plinmaster

[strange knot]

I don’t think u need roaaries for 2nd needle upgrade

[tight hare]

I beat path of pain btw 🥀

[rose flax]

why tf is the pinstress so goofy

[slim canyon]

Ngl PoP is easier than people make it out to be

[tight hare]

yes I agree my friend kept overhyping it and I beat it in thirty minutes

[rose flax]

i wonder if anyone made an absolute path of pain

[strange knot]

Celeste prologue is harder than pop frfr

[knotty yoke]

Its so funnt in the cutscene

[edgy patio]

i beat that in 2022

[tight hare]

I found PoP fun

I don’t get the name

[slim canyon]

True

[worldly umbra]

how long do yall think i can keep this up for before i give up

[edgy patio]

ahh i remember the good old days when i played hk

[worldly umbra]

im just spamming random numbers at this point

[edgy patio]

and then proceeded to get every boss radiant, beat p5 and and burn every boss to the ground

[tight hare]

I’ve always liked the hollow knight parkour mechanics or wtv I’m sad that it was like only in PoP I’m hoping to see more of it in sk

[edgy patio]

20?

[rose flax]

mf is aurafarming and genuinely enjoying life at the same time

[tight hare]

my hardes is nilscapes wbu

[undone gate]

There is more platforming in Silksong but none of it is as hard as PoP

[tight hare]

well that sucks

[edgy patio]

we need more platforming in silksong since we have so much movement abilities

[tight hare]

yeah I agree its so fun as well

[edgy patio]

yeahhh

[fluid crystal]

I am here again to recommend "golden brown" because i love this song anf i have free will

[worldly umbra]

bloodbath i beat it over winter break my worst fail was 92% (insert vortrox meme)

[undone gate]

I mean PoP is DLC and Silksong doesn't have DLC yet

[worldly umbra]

no but actually my worst fail was 92

[edgy patio]

yeah

[tight hare]

oh damn I’m going for acu rn

[tight hare]

yeah maybe we will get some soon

[undone gate]

I am mainly waiting for the Godhome type DLC in Silksong because the bosses in Silksong are so good

[edgy patio]

we will get platforming but i don't think pop level platforming because, there is still alot of lore team cherry hasn't uncovered so they still need to focus on gameplay and lore aspects of the game first

[edgy patio]

i wonder how it'll work since if we go by the delicate flower ending the god seeker doesn't exist so i am curious to see what they do to add that

[undone gate]

HK had like 4 DLCs so we don't know what all stuff we will get I would predict that maybe in the 2nd or 3rd DLC we get a PoP level platforming section

[vale whale]

i wish there were more npcs who helped with bosses in this game

like in ds1 most early game bosses have npcs who can help

obviously bosses like lace or phantom shouldnt have summons but yk

bosses which are big random beasts and block your way should have npcs helping

[cerulean sable]

call it greed but i genuinely wish for 3 major expacs at minimum

very unrealistic

[vale whale]

like moorwing (which does)

[graceful cairn]

truth

[vale whale]

and shaman

[cerulean sable]

realistically speaking maybe 2 major 2 minors? but i think thats even stretching it

[edgy patio]

hopefully we get dlcs like the grim troupe which was really different than god home and others, it provided lore and mystery, it's a dlc that gives you bosses and characters from another dimension that you can summon like it's really unique and sea of sorrow is the same here

[vale whale]

if we're lucky we'll get one minor expansion because they started the expansions with a major

[edgy patio]

im predicting 5 dlcs until 2032 (hopefully this doesn't age like milk when i see it in the future)

[still osprey]

Silksong will have NO DLC. Sea of Sorrow is a LIE.

[vale whale]

i hope they make a major expansion which makes an actual good ending and endgame

[undone gate]

I do think Silksong DLCs will be larger than HK DLCs like Hidden Dreams DLC just added 2 bosses while Sea Of Sorrow will have new bosses, enemies, areas etc

[hexed sonnet]

61 hours and just finding weavenest atla

[devout oracle]

ok where to download cogfly for mods? the github?

[hexed sonnet]

when i say silksong has bad design this is what i mean

why would i randomly think of approaching the big spider and playing the needolin

[edgy patio]

if they do major expansions then i hope 3 major expansions since in hk we had like 1 or 2, yeah like 2

they def have enough time to make 3 major expansions until 2032

[tight hare]

yeah that would be rlly cool

[hexed sonnet]

pharloom is ruled by weavers/spiders and their faces are on the big rocks so that would also indicate a sort of boundary so i let it be but noooooooo there's a whole place underneath

[tight hare]

What’s the sea dlc even gonna be about wtv it’s called

[still osprey]

Because it's the very first thing that gets shown to you when you get Needolin?? 😭

[undone gate]

I mean literally in the place you get the needoline you use it to open doors with a big spider symbol

[hexed sonnet]

actually idr when i got the needolin 😭

glossed over it i guess lmao

[undone gate]

It's just after Widow

[edgy patio]

they have enough time to make 3 giant dlcs <t:1956578400:R>

[hexed sonnet]

im guessing there's a secret area beyond wormways too since i remember it having another spider looking stone wall

[lusty grove]

cuz you do it in the Widow cutscene

[undone gate]

There is also one more in far feilds

[hexed sonnet]

guess i have stuff to do while im NOT doing groal huh

[still osprey]

There's also one in Bilewater

[lusty grove]

and one in the Abyss

[hexed sonnet]

bilewater is exactly where i dont wanna be rn

[lusty grove]

there used to be one in Mt. Fay, but it broke

[dusty seal]

thanks trobbio but i want the purple one

[edgy patio]

we need more title screens so in sea of sorrow we might get a watery themed title screen

[edgy patio]

yes don't take that one get the purple one

[untold dune]

yeah id be surprised if we dont

[edgy patio]

the only thing i can talk about is something that isn't in silksong because i've already done everything in it

it's just the same waiting game again

it's insane that silksong came out half a year ago

[untold dune]

6.5 months now nearly

[edgy patio]

still feels like yesterday when i was on my switch 2 waiting for release second then every store crashed

[still osprey]

Just do what I did and start 7 other 100% all bosses playthroughs

[edgy patio]

already did all bosses hitless steel soul 100% normal mode 100% all achievements, i want more but there isn't anymore to do

[undone gate]

Why 7 other playthrows is it for all the crests

[still osprey]

No I'm just addicted

[untold dune]

im just waiting for the rando to come out tbh

[edgy patio]

my friend has 3 100% steel soul save files because he said he was bored

[indigo eagle]

We’re 1/4 done with the year

[untold dune]

another easy 200 hours as soon as it comes out

[undone gate]

Isin't there already an enemy and item rando

[edgy patio]

everyone

[untold dune]

the item rando isnt good lol

its literally just a placeholder until the polished one comes out

[edgy patio]

make your predictions of when sea of sorrow is coming out this year to look back on who is the closest when it's out

[untold dune]

the enemy rando is fun tho

[lusty grove]

when a good item rando comes out it's gonna be peak

[untold dune]

fr

[still osprey]

April - June

[untold dune]

march 15th

[edgy patio]

Late May - Late July

[lusty grove]

also, there should be a grass speedrun like in HK

[still osprey]

I have 250h on Silksong and rando isn't even out yet, my playtime is gonna triple when it comes out I swear

[graceful cairn]

i feel like its coming in june but I really dont want that to be the case cause june is such an orange month and sos is blue

[untold dune]

yeah its inevitable ofc

[edgy patio]

good one but seriously make a prediction so you could see how far off or close you were to the actual date

[untold dune]

ive been saying june

[cerulean sable]

Shell's Kitchen

[edgy patio]

it's probably first half of 2026

[cerulean sable]

with your host, Chef Lugoli

[edgy patio]

btw why are you blue

[cerulean sable]

former mod

[edgy patio]

oh makes sense

[cerulean sable]

saw action way back since the 2021 news drought wars

[graceful cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-brba-breaking-bad-gif-26777019

[cerulean sable]

retired around early 2025

[edgy patio]

thank your for your service 🫡

[cerulean sable]

nobody remembers the 2020 drought wars (for a good reason)

everytime theres a direct, someone pops in to post an unironic wall saying theyve given up on Team Cherry and that they probably ran away with the money, or that theyre probably laughing at the fanbase and they wont give a single cent to them anymore

every event

lmao

[untold dune]

sounds like a skill issue of patience tbh

[edgy patio]

the dlc wait doesn't feel like the silksong wait, i miss waiting for silksong

[untold dune]

i was a steven universe fan when it was airing so i am fully prepared for content droughts

[edgy patio]

good days when it was the battle of the believers versus the doubters

[cerulean sable]

long time Half Life fan since 2010

[lusty grove]

Groal wants revenge for the destruction of his land
they use a spell called "Vengeful Spirit" from HK
the name "Vengeful Spirit" made no sense in HK
the Seeker Shaman looks more like a HK shaman than a Silksong one

[still osprey]

THAT'S WHY YOU LOOKED FAMILIAR TO ME

[lusty grove]

my theory is that Groal was originally a HK boss that got reworked for Silksong, and we'd get the Vengeful Spirit from them instead of the Snail Shaman

[still osprey]

I only now remembered 😭

[edgy patio]

i gtg im gonna go watch someone play silksong now.

[raw pawn]

I feel like zango is gonna be a pain in the ahh in the pantheons

[lusty grove]

Radiant Zango is gonna be the new Obobbles

[edgy patio]

how come you knew him but you joined years after him

[graceful cairn]

the wait for sos is pretty fun ngl

[raw pawn]

That's because it's tomorrow

[graceful cairn]

true

[edgy patio]

not really primacon isn't uploading content it's been 3 weeks since his last video

[still osprey]

Check my message count

[graceful cairn]

i really hope they just shadow drop it some random day

[edgy patio]

ohh im guessing you left and rejoined?

[still osprey]

✅

[astral kettle]

The savage beastflys are pissing me off 😭😭😭

[raw pawn]

There is a mod that plays the credits when you die in steel soul so it makes it more annoying lmao

[still osprey]

I was really active here a couple years ago, I only came back because I got super addicted to silksong 🔥

[edgy patio]

i have been on this server on 2021 on an account that got banned because i was "trolling" and said silksong was going to be a sequel and everyone jumped me and said it was a prequel then the mods sent me down the shitter

[untold dune]

this would pmo so bad lmao

[graceful cairn]

lmao 😭

[edgy patio]

yeah, those times were great though, sad i couldn't join this server until i made this account and joined last year

[graceful cairn]

ban evasion

[untold dune]

i only got into hollow knight around easter last year

[edgy patio]

mods can ban me again lmao i don't care but banning me for saying that SILKSONG IS A SEQUEL???? insane

i don't even think the guy that banned me is even a mod anymore

[untold dune]

literally 1984

[graceful cairn]

they hated jesus for he told the truth ahh

[edgy patio]

he probably is playing fortnite or something

[edgy patio]

?

[still osprey]

Honestly that's such a dumb reason to get banned, that even if it is technically ban evasion, I feel like the other account should just get unbanned 😭

[edgy patio]

eh that account i forgot the password of anyway. i use this account as my main now

[raw pawn]

Wait did you get banned because that's technically a spoiler?

[graceful cairn]

banned for prophesying

[raw pawn]

Lmao

[edgy patio]

nah i got banned for saying silksong was going to be a sequel and they banned me for trolling and everyone kept saying it was a prequel

[untold dune]

online bans should get to expire after a few years anyway imo in most cases

[rocky jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038825612007186463/1102267985965633639/1652184987985141761.gif

[edgy patio]

SINCE WHEN DID THEY EVEN BAN FOR TROLLING

[untold dune]

its so weird that we didnt know if it was a sequel or a prequel for so long tbh

[edgy patio]

NOWADAYS RAGEBAITING IS ALLOWED

[still osprey]

It's even funnier because silksong is a sequel!

[edgy patio]

like that ban was low iq but i'll still let it slide

[edgy patio]

i've always believed it was a sequel

[untold dune]

im ashamed to say i was team prequel

[edgy patio]

everyone kept saying it's a game sequel but lore prequel

they ALL were wrong

[still osprey]

I always had a feeling it was a sequel

[untold dune]

tbf the fact that hornet didnt have a double jump in hk shouldve made it obvious

[worthy lintel]

I always said sequel

[edgy patio]

if it was a prequel game i wouldn't have enjoyed it because if it was a prequel like the story wouldn't have been that much fun

[raw pawn]

I thought silksong would have been a game actually

[worthy lintel]

(And always hoped sequel)

[edgy patio]

hopefully the hollow knight series ends with the third game

hollow knight: the last kingdom

[worthy lintel]

The third game, Sea of Sorrow, which is going to have so much content it becomes its own game

[untold dune]

lowk im not expecting another hk game, if they do a 3rd game im expecting a new ip

[edgy patio]

or something idk

[lavish apex]

i wasn't even sure for like most of the game

[untold dune]

"we were having so much fun developing sea of sorrow weve decided to turn it into its own game!"

[hexed sonnet]

fighting moss mother 2 with a level 3 needle in act 2 is an insane experience

[graceful cairn]

i do think the way they just took away all of hornets abilities at the start of silksong was lowkey dumb

[edgy patio]

i mean they clearly won't add mr mushroom flying off into the sky to the sun he is clearly flying to MAYBE is the last kingdom? there HAS to be a third game

that cliffhanger is so annoying

[untold dune]

its hilarious how they dont confirm a timeline until the very last line of dialogue in the game

[raw pawn]

She was weakened by the rune

And the fall

[worthy lintel]

Dialogue when you encounter Second Sentinel implies it's a sequel

[graceful cairn]

yeah but i still think thats kinda stupid

[untold dune]

that mf is a gag

[edgy patio]

well she was young in hk1 and now shes old but TC DOESN'T WANNA EXPLAIN HOW THE EVENTS CARRIED OVER from hk to ss

[untold dune]

uh what did that say again?

[still osprey]

Hornet was not young in hk where did you get that from

[edgy patio]

in hk he flew to silksong in silksong he flew to ||?@#&%)||

[lavish apex]

for me it was the lace conversation at the start of act 2

[untold dune]

yeah fair

[lavish apex]

"experience tells me, even gods can fall"

[untold dune]

he flew back into hk, he is living in a time loop, theory solved

[graceful cairn]

what if this was just w foreshadowing

[worthy lintel]

Oh yeah that too

[raw pawn]

Didn't she also say something similar to lace?

[edgy patio]

i mean we know of the city of steel, black barrens, ashen wastes and maybe some more places

[untold dune]

could be pale king

[thorny lark]

land of storms

[edgy patio]

yeah but we aren't going there

idk

they have to make a third game for the lore to end and make sense

[thorny lark]

i think city of steel would be ok for the next game

[edgy patio]

because hornet staring into lace and mr mushroom flying to ?????? again IS A CLIFFHANGER and a really big one

[lyric cape]

hi\

[lavish apex]

mr mushroom is just a gag

[untold dune]

im sorry guys but 'mr mushroom' is not a serious piece of lore

[edgy patio]

those places were people that got kidnapped third game we have 0 clue but we could make up stuff like maybe the last kingdom or something that will happen there

[edgy patio]

he flew from hollownest to pharloom to ?????????

[untold dune]

he flew to pablo

[thorny lark]

i feel like lace should be the next character but thats just bc I watched a lore video

[edgy patio]

he is probably going to meet maskbearer or something

[edgy patio]

lace has to protect pharloom

[untold dune]

do we even know if the mr mushroom in hk is the same one in sk

[edgy patio]

and hornet might follow mr mushroom OR go back to hollownest

[edgy patio]

yes??

[still osprey]

I'm pretty sure yea

[untold dune]

idk could be an identical twin 🤷

[edgy patio]

he did get more saturated though which is a really good change cus he looks better now

i just have no clue what they could make for a third game, it feels like trying to know the one piece

[still osprey]

mr mushroom and his iconic brother, mr mushroom but more saturated

[thorny lark]

but after the lost lace fight both hornet and lace leave pharloom

[untold dune]

shakra game shakra game shakra game

[edgy patio]

who told you that

wiattt

you mean they leave the abyss

[untold dune]

hornet tells u that

[thorny lark]

yes

[still osprey]

oh I actually passed 250 hours awesome 🐸

[untold dune]

lol

[still osprey]

is that og hk?

[edgy patio]

lace has to protect pharloom since she is grand mother's daughter and has to protect that land because she was supposed to be a vessel or some shit idk but she has to be the protector of pharloom but hornet already finished her job in hollownest

[untold dune]

nah thats sk

[still osprey]

ohh

[edgy patio]

it could only mean that hornet HAS to go where mr mushroom is going but

[untold dune]

my hk is only 307.3

[still osprey]

I still have some time before surpassing my hk time

[terse cloak]

how do yall have the time???

[still osprey]

but I have even more time before surpassing my Celeste time

[edgy patio]

im gonna have to wait like 14 years and have a wife and kids until hollow knight 3 gets announced which feels like gta6

[terse cloak]

WHAT

[exotic cedar]

I have 338 on silksong

[exotic cedar]

Something like 360 on hk i think

But dead cells surpassed them both

[edgy patio]

that's nothing

[thorny lark]

lace is a bug that grandmother silk wove out of silk so when grandmother silk dies she is free to go anywhere with hornet, thus hornets needle and laces pin next to eachother

[untold dune]

one day i will achieve 2k hours in a game and it will probably be eu5

[edgy patio]

what? wdym hornets needle and laces pin next to each other

[untold dune]

menu screen is not canon bro

[thorny lark]

in the main screen

[still osprey]

This is the type of shit I've been doing in the game lately https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413208984005120060/1482285815793979424/2026-03-14_09-51-21.mp4?ex=69b665be&is=69b5143e&hm=8bd10a156f89ca88d3ee5b75139422de6b47c8f95bc2a2a357801d811ea460d7&

[exotic cedar]

381 on dead cells, 338 on silksong and 366 on hk

[rancid stag]

hello sk disc

[edgy patio]

let him cook, tc doesn't wanna talk about hk3 yet so he's got a point

[exotic cedar]

Are you a cave diver by a chance

[edgy patio]

hk3 COULD be a 2 player character game where you could play as lace or hornet

[still osprey]

no unfortunately not

[exotic cedar]

Damn

[thorny lark]

bro high halls is one of my least favorite places

[still osprey]

I love high halls you can ignore every enemy there and the forum is peak

[thorny lark]

i do like that

[untold dune]

i wouldnt want a 2 player sequel i like these games because theyre singleplayer

[rancid stag]

then make 2 player optional

[untold dune]

that would be chill

[exotic cedar]

I want something different from tc

Not another metroidvania again

[edgy patio]

see you in 14 years bro, if they even announce a third game this wait will be more mentally and psychically destructible than the silksong wait cus they said they making dlcs till 2032 which means if there will be a third game (which there has to be) it gonna take sooooooooooooooooooooooooo longggggggggggg and i probably won't be alive by then

[thorny lark]

what about a godseeker hk3

[thorny lark]

nah i dont want to grow out of it by the time it comes out

[edgy patio]

i am def playing a third game IF IT COMES OUT like bruhhhhhhhh i have to wait even LONGER for the third game

might as well invent an indie AAA team

to work on hollow knight: 3

[untold dune]

pretty sure tc have explicitly said they dont wanna do that

[edgy patio]

will tc even be alive trying to make hk3?

idk for now i'll wait for mask bearer as my hk3

[untold dune]

i aint even expecting an hk3 im expecting a new ip

[edgy patio]

hopefully maskbearer for 2029

i can't wait

[untold dune]

theyve said in the past they wanna move on from hk eventually

[edgy patio]

i need another hk game and maskbearer is there to help me

[exotic cedar]

If its another hk game i will not play it

[edgy patio]

yeah i know but they won't do cliff hangers for no reason

[edgy patio]

cool

[untold dune]

they werent even gonna do silksong originally yknow, meaning that original mr mushroom would have gone 'unresolved'

[exotic cedar]

I want to see something like dead cells with their artstyle

[untold dune]

also, godhome ending

[thorny lark]

maybe something related to the hive

maybe vespa

[edgy patio]

gonna make a prediction cus im bored

[rocky jolt]

Fighting for 'honour', or for 'loyalty'... you may as well be fighting for dust. If you want to kill, do it for your own sake. That is the nature of a true Hunter.

[edgy patio]

hk3 till 2041 - 2045 so <t:2366892000:R> im gonna have wife and kids and i'll be an unc

[exotic cedar]

Oh my god this description in the badly translated mod

[edgy patio]

mark your calendars nobody

[thorny lark]

bro i will have forgotten all about this game called hk

[exotic cedar]

It was pretty out of pocket

[thorny lark]

nab i can’t remember to set my calendar

[rocky jolt]

what was it

[edgy patio]

if minecraft can survive that long then hollow knight can too

[thorny lark]

fair

[edgy patio]

ggs

[exotic cedar]

It was something about uhh killing thyself

[spark anchor]

celeste spike hitboxes

[rocky jolt]

damn

[unkempt steeple]

reached act 2 and just beat the cogwork dancers in steel soul

god you don't realize how many things can three shot you before you get 7 masks

gonna go to whiteward now for the quick heal tool (already bought the double heal tool)

[desert flare]

Fractured mask is really helpful in steel soul

[desert flare]

Makes it a lot less stressful as well

[unkempt steeple]

I don't feel like grinding so I waited until now to get the curveclaw and fractured mask cuz the vendor dies

thanks to ant racism I don't gotta pay

[severe cosmos]

try white knuckle

[lusty grove]

I think I'm getting better at speedruns

[stable pilot]

Is this Gotham chess

https://tenor.com/view/gothamchess-goes-mad-gothamchess-jumps-on-chair-levy-goes-mad-gotham-goes-mad-levy-jumps-on-chair-gif-8211070565752995891

[hexed sonnet]

wait a min architect crest is tearing groal's gauntlet a new one

[light swan]

yes, there was a patch 2 days ago

[hexed sonnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/black-life-hope-DwWA0wHJIhusb6YwFu

i didnt even use cogflies too and i was able to do get to him thrice in a row

already an achievement because i only got to him twice before in my 10 or so attempts

[lusty grove]

is Lace in 16 minutes good?

[rose flax]

can you only get bilewater map with faydown?

[short trout]

Anyone know what that one clean healthbar and damage mod that's used in a lot of videos is?

[sharp slate]

decent me thinks, depends on what your goal is

[light swan]

nope

[lusty grove]

beating the game in less than 3 hours

[short trout]

This mod

Anyone know what it's called?

[light swan]

https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/28

[short trout]

Thank you very much

[light swan]

np

[still osprey]

This movement is so sick

[lusty grove]

nice

[unkempt steeple]

shit I didn't know I'd be stuck in underworks if I went through the whiteward route first

[still osprey]

isn't there like a ventrica to the left

[unkempt steeple]

yeah I'm gonna go collecto some roseries for that

already activated the songclave and bell station ventricas

[sharp slate]

definetely on pace then imo

[umbral lagoon]

today I learned that if you collect 4 mask shards and get a mask while you have wreath of purity equipped, the wreath fully restores itself

it's weird but I'm not complaining

[balmy pumice]

Really?

That’s cool

[umbral lagoon]

it's pretty niche but yeah

I had 3 mask shards and the last one was in bilewater

slubberlugs broke my wreath, then I collected it, got 9th mask, and my wreath came back

[ashen steeple]

I hate that one

I hate bile water

[lusty grove]

Widow in 37 minutes

[ashen steeple]

I am bilewaters biggest hater

[lusty grove]

now to Halfway Home

[light swan]

i am bilewaters biggest glazer

[ashen steeple]

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[subtle lynx]

I'm bilewasters average enjoyer

[minor sparrow]

Bilewater hate is temporary, Christopher Larkin's score is eternal

[rocky jolt]

bileblud

[ashen steeple]

I read that at first as bile water hate is therapy

Which for me it is

[leaden delta]

I’m bilewater

[exotic cedar]

I'm bile

[spice cargo]

do you guys break your hornet statues from an icon of Hope quest

[subtle lynx]

god I'm dreading having to complete 60 entries for the journal and then doing the flea minigames to beat seth

I've 100% hk lot of times, but I don't think I'm ever doing this again

[ashen steeple]

There’s the stupid ass groal which has the stupid ass long run back with all the stupid ass shit maggot water with and then there’s a stupid ass enemy gauntlet too

[tight viper]

Add more waves to the Groaltlet

[exotic cedar]

Survive my gauntlets

Anyways bilewater is peak

[ashen steeple]

True

[tight viper]

More Bilewater

[ashen steeple]

I’m gonna hate it anyway

[tight viper]

We need Bilewater 2

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/dwyane-johnson-the-rock-pancake-gif-21362945

[ionic mural]

Putrified ducts

[ashen steeple]

Bile water brings me sorrow so maybe the dlc is a giant bile water

[tight viper]

Too small

[final furnace]

add flying shitwater bubbles that follow you and they give you the effect

[tight viper]

No good music

Too blue

[ashen steeple]

Pharloom sized bile water

[exotic cedar]

Groal but he spits lugolis muckmaggot balls

[ashen steeple]

I’m gonna mald so hard

[exotic cedar]

Wait muckmaggot balls when he dives
I have an iq that's too high

[ashen steeple]

I’m gonna be more pissed than humanly possible

Sisters of battle but it’s 3 groals instead

[tight viper]

Brothers of Bile

[ionic mural]

We need a duo savage beastfly boss

[exotic cedar]

Groal the great 😄
Groal the terrible 👿
Groal the average 😐

[final furnace]

add groal but instead of spawning those annoying ass enemies they spawn 2 groals, and those groals can spawn more and you get it by now

[tight viper]

Groaltosis

[exotic cedar]

Team cherry should hire me, im so creative with these names

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmyhere-jimmy-eye-of-rah-jimmyhere-eye-of-rah-its-wednesday-my-dudes-gif-5349982068260489368

[final furnace]

groal the groal 🔥

[ashen steeple]

Ok but what if all of bilewater had those jumping maggot leeches

[final furnace]

hell

[tight viper]

Slubberlug hell

[light swan]

so the only problem with the ENTIRE area

the ENTIRE area, which is the 2nd biggest area in the game

is one singular bossfight? :D

[exotic cedar]

Why is there no slubberslugs in sinners road when it's the place where they farm muckroaches

[ashen steeple]

And the stupid ass shit water with the shit maggots

And the jumping maggots

[tight viper]

Slubberlugs need mask shards and fishing nets to survive

[ashen steeple]

Duo groal fight with the jumping leech maggots and no floor or walls

[tight viper]

Sounds fun

[light swan]

which appear in one singular room btw

[ionic mural]

No floor is better cause you don’t get poisoned

[tight viper]

Those Slubberlugs would help

[light swan]

which is good design when it comes to bilewater btw

[tight viper]

More shit to pogo

[exotic cedar]

Double groal was fun ngl

[ashen steeple]

Even better, thorns for walls and ceiling

[tight viper]

Aw fuck the ceiling?

[ionic mural]

Mount Fay wind

[minor sparrow]

And pogo and pogo and pogo and pogo

[light swan]

BILEWATER GLAZE

the enemy design, traps, maggotwater, and structure of the area creates such an interesting tension regarding danger

• enemies dont really threaten you, most respawn or are tanky to act as silk farms for players to combat the maggotwater, while also reinforcing awareness
• the traps encourage you to pay attention to the world around you, and it means youre never TRULY safe (despite there being little hazards and weak enemies) despite being easily overcame
• the maggotwater turns this idea of "paying attention" from passiveness into caution because you cant sit still and let all your silk drain, while also obviously acting as non-lethal punishment for messing up (and of course maggotwater works well with everything else)
• and of course, the lack of benches makes the area feel a LOT more dangerous than it actually is, and increases that sense of unease and "where the fuck am i" so much more
  everything balances eachother out perfectly and all funnel bilewater towards one singular beautiful purpose, which just screams "well designed" to me

also, the bloatroach rooms are fucking AMAZING

my only real complaint with bilewater are the stilkin
which ONLY SPAWN IN 5 FUCKING ROOMS btw
second biggest area in the game, yet only spawn in 5 rooms

• keep in mind, 2 of those rooms you will never go back to
• another 2 are rooms where you can EASILY run/jump past them
• the last room is bad yea but its not a part of the groal runback so that helps a bit ig

[lavish apex]

stilkin are also pretty annoying

[minor sparrow]

Thanks illusion

[tight viper]

I rely on the ceiling for my work you can’t take that from me

[mental snow]

Alright, time to truly revive my true 100% Silksong file after it got corrupted

Gotta get every memento, every item, high score all the Flea games again, and get Seth back in

[rocky jolt]

pollup pouch

[light swan]

well luckily theyre not the biggest problem

[mental snow]

Oh yeah, and every boss

[tight viper]

I can’t dance through the air with an angry ceiling

[minor sparrow]

Yeah, only the exploding dart ones though

[ashen steeple]

I hate bilewater your facts are invalidated

[light swan]

always the average response when someone is wrong

[ashen steeple]

My bilewater hate surpases logic and reason

[spice cargo]

bilewater is fine

just get wreath of purity

to be honest bilewater is the last place I explore before act 3

[minor sparrow]

Hey where's the obligatory bilewater ost mention

[exotic cedar]

Bilewater is the best area tc made

[light swan]

dude everyone already knows htat

[exotic cedar]

Glazing bilewater is the reason this heart still beats

[ionic mural]

Bilewater would be a bit better to go through if the only bench apart from the bellway wasn’t hidden

[minor sparrow]

Tru

[light swan]

the lack of benches helps towards the ultimate purpose of bilewater

[exotic cedar]

What

[minor sparrow]

That text is tiny lol

[exotic cedar]

Lack of benches test how careful you are

[light swan]

ALSO

bilewater's traps encourage you to be perceptive, and bilewater's general atmosphere and size makes it a place where you need to be paying much more attention
and the hidden bench only rewards this behavior

[ashen steeple]

Why like bilewater when you can hate it

[graceful cairn]

tf is a stilkin

[light swan]

jumpy guys who shit out exploding darts

[graceful cairn]

oh

[exotic cedar]

The tribe is called stilkins ibthink

[tight viper]

The darts are awesome

I love how you can pogo them from one side but not the other

[minor sparrow]

Dude did my phone move my comma button? I swear it was somewhere else

[tight viper]

We need more attacks like this

[minor sparrow]

The blade side or the bubble side?

[tight viper]

You can pogo the bubble

[minor sparrow]

Oh that makes sense

Pretty consistent

Cause hitting the blade just redirects, right?

[light swan]

the annoying part is the movement of the stilkin themselves

theyre fine in the gauntlet but not in exploration

[tight hull]

shit water😭

[tight viper]

Just a standard parry, like parrying the Pinstress pins

[light swan]

their attacks are somewhat chill

[tight viper]

Slight redirection

But it doesn’t just go straight down or something

[lavish apex]

the hidden bench is evil

[final furnace]

what hidden bench the one hidden in the water?

[light swan]

im half coping when im defending the hidden bench but i do have a point tho :D

[minor sparrow]

The stupid backhops bro

[final furnace]

i found that in late act 3 the hidden bench when getting the hunter thingy

[lavish apex]

frankly indefensible considering if you don't find it the runback is like. the entire faydown portion of the area

[tight viper]

It’s a reward for exploring shit and having a keen eye

[light swan]

literally the entire area

but i still have a point even if its an unrealistic one

[lavish apex]

yeah and that sucks

hidden wall that forces you to tank the hazard to break it is not a reasonable place to put that

[light swan]

is it a hidden wall?

[tight viper]

It’s perfectly reasonable

[light swan]

i thought it was just a passageway in the water

[tight viper]

And the wall is painfully obvious

[lavish apex]

it's a breakable wall

[tight viper]

Nah that’s Murglin

[light swan]

ah

well that stinks

[tight viper]

lol

[light swan]

breakable walls are never obvious and bilewater is the one area with very little breakable walls

so throwing one randomly in there is somewhat counterintuitive

[mental snow]

I think it's kinda bullshit that you need shell shards to keep using the Plasmium Phial

Like you didn't snap the Phial in half, you can refill it

The fuck are the shell shards for

[tight viper]

Speaking of Murglin, what if the First Sinner is Murglin

[final furnace]

the phials go to the floor and break

[lavish apex]

hornet just throws them away after use for some reason

[tight viper]

Think about it

[mental snow]

Why doesn't she pick them up

Is she stupid

[lavish apex]

yes

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[light swan]

im hearing the mio final boss syncopation beats in a celeste song how fucked am i

[exotic cedar]

She's stupid, evil and most importantly homophobic

[mental snow]

Oh yeah, she kills the gays

Which reminds me

I haven't killed the gays yet

[still osprey]

I should go through every weaver in pharloom and assign weavenest names to them

First Sinner is totally Atla btw

[light swan]

first sinners first name is obviously First

[tight viper]

Can’t be done

We’re short one name

[light swan]

the slab is literally Weavenest Sinner

[tight viper]

Gotta wait until Sea of Sorrow

[still osprey]

what if I just made my own name how about that

that weaver? yea that'd David from Weavenest David

[hybrid flare]

Weavenest kirk

[tight viper]

We might get another Weaver name out of that

[light swan]

weavenest fay

[mental snow]

I've just killed 3 birds with one stone. I'm surprised I hit that many, and there is now blood on my hands.

Also I just got 2 dex entries alongside finishing the 2nd Plasmium quest.

[light swan]

weavenest askar?

[exotic cedar]

Does the weavenest in mount fay have a name

[tight viper]

Wait fuck I’m dumb

[still osprey]

It does in the files

[exotic cedar]

Weavenest or whatever

[light swan]

askar or smth

[tight viper]

I forgot about Askar

[exotic cedar]

Oh

[tight viper]

Nvm they can all be matched

[exotic cedar]

interesting

[fiery burrow]

The Mio ||crucible|| platforming challenges are brutal

[still osprey]

that's kind of awesome actually

[tight viper]

Karn and Absolom are obvious

[light swan]

theyre the white palace of the game :D

[still osprey]

which one is Karn again?

[tight viper]

Keelal and Camora are also pretty certain

[light swan]

karmelita

[icy crow]

@broken seal I've accepted a friend request but I'm not sure if it is you

[still osprey]

oh wormways

[still osprey]

ok we're just making up names now these are not weavenest names are they

apparently idk shit about weavers

[light swan]

probably weaver shrines

[exotic cedar]

Weaver elegies? or something idk what they are called

[tight viper]

Assuming the needolin we see in Weavenest Murglin is Murglin herself, though, there’s no match

Effigy yeah

[still osprey]

ohhh

[exotic cedar]

Oh

[lavish apex]

no, not really. there is another pit with traps in the very same room that also has literally nothing in it, i think a lot of people could fall down that one and just not look very closely and miss it. which they do. if it was painfully obvious then that wouldn't happen so often for blind players

[broken seal]

i've obtained the witch crest in my witch only run

[tight viper]

It’s painfully obvious

[lavish apex]

i agree with most of the other defenses of bilewater but never the secret bench that shit is ass

[exotic cedar]

Yummy

[tight viper]

If someone missed it, they weren’t being observant

[light swan]

frito even i cant help the copium here

[mental snow]

Does Plasmified Zango only appear after the 2nd Plasmium Quest is finished?

[still osprey]

nah he just appears in act 3

[exotic cedar]

In act 3

[mental snow]

Then where the fuck is he

[tight viper]

Nah, it’s a matter of being vs. not being observant

[still osprey]

bottom left wormways

[mental snow]

I've been searching these damn wormways

[still osprey]

behind a breakable wall

[light swan]

how observant do you need to be if its "painfully obvious"

[tight viper]

The cracks in the wall stand out like sore thumbs

[light swan]

you likely wouldnt need to be too observant if its painfuly obvious

[broken seal]

illusion2 teach me the ways of being op with witch

[mental snow]

You mean the wall that I broke in Act 1 that leads to a labyrinth to get the Memory Locket

[light swan]

what do you want to learn first

[still osprey]

there's another breakable wall behind that, he's there

[tight viper]

Well, yeah. But people who missed it weren’t being observant at all while exploring that part of Bilewater

[exotic cedar]

What hapened to illusion 1

[light swan]

spogos, animation cancels, rdac chains, the general technique to binds, etc

[fiery burrow]

what do you even do here

[lavish apex]

it being like the only breakable wall in the whole area, right after something that punishes you for doing the same thing that you need to do to even see it, and the general stress level that bilewater induces on a first playthrough make it extremely easy to miss

[light swan]

hit the bottom left one and then hairpin up

[light swan]

hacked

[fiery burrow]

Makes sense

[tight viper]

You enter the area through a breakable wall, and there are more breakable walls and hidden passages throughout Bilewater

[broken seal]

well i'm still somewhat weak cuz i got witch crest as early as possible, no vesticrest and i only have 1 red tool (all blues unlocked). I've got sawtooth equipped and i already have the basics of it down as i use it a lot on my hunter save

[tight viper]

There’s like 7

[mental snow]

Found the breakable wall, thanks guys

For some reason, I just didn't go all the way left and immediately went down in the labyrinth

[light swan]

i cant name another breakable wall lowkey

[exotic cedar]

Excited for illusion 3 hope the devs release it quickly

[lavish apex]

if it were painfully obvious in the context of the actual level design then so many people wouldn't be missing it

[light swan]

so what do you want to learn first

[tight viper]

Snitchbug flea, Mist, Quicksling

[broken seal]

probably animation cancels

[tight viper]

There’s three

[lavish apex]

the closest thing in bilewater proper is probably just quick sling

[light swan]

mist isnt a breakable wall

wtf is snitchbug flea

[mental snow]

So today I learned that the Needle Phial does indeed take blood from Zango

[tight viper]

It’s

[still osprey]

there's also like 20 more breakable walls on the way to twisted bud does that count

[tight viper]

It’s breakable from both entrances

[lavish apex]

oh yeah that flea, true

[tight viper]

The Mist cannot be accessed without breaking a wall

[light swan]

its a breakable wall from sinners road but from bilewater its just a straight path is it not

[still osprey]

no

[light swan]

also its super obvious because theres a path leading up to there either way

[onyx burrow]

new game

[still osprey]

it's a breakable wall from both sides

[exotic cedar]

Its breakble wall from bilewater too i belive

[light swan]

also quicksling is atrocious it was the last tool i ever got in my 100% save

[lavish apex]

in that case it's a long safe hallway with nothing else in it

next to a bellway
objectively extremely hard to miss

[tight viper]

In the case of the secret bench, one look at the wall should make it obvious

You can clearly see the cracks if you just look at the wall

[fiery burrow]

Bilewater is fairly visually cluttered tbf

[lavish apex]

you are straight up just not acknowledging the fact that there is another similar pit right before it in that room that just has nothing in it

[tight viper]

Surely after doing the Groal runback 3 times or so, one would think to look around a bit in case they missed something

[lavish apex]

except for maggots and traps because fuck you

[light swan]

its ok ill gladly accept the bilewater love

and yea the secret bench is awesome it just rewards perception in a perception heavy area

[hybrid flare]

You like mio

[lavish apex]

what does that even mean

[tight viper]

Sure, but that pit is one you walk over

[light swan]

and mio has amazing composition and is not visually cluttered unless youre blind or in a visually cluttered cave

[fiery burrow]

Mio hardly has any breakable walls afaik

[hybrid flare]

that has to be THE icantseeshit game

[tight viper]

The hidden bench pit is along a path

[lavish apex]

you can also walk over the other one

[light swan]

😔

[tight viper]

There’s a small route leading to the hidden bench pit

[light swan]

i think you just dont know how to look at 3d environments

[tight viper]

Surely that would make someone think “oh hey there might be something down here”

[lavish apex]

mio has no breakable walls, all secrets are just obscured by foreground objects

[hybrid flare]

actually ultrakill is the icantseeshit game depending on the scenario

[fiery burrow]

I don't think Bilewater looks bad for the record it looks good

Its just difficult to see breakable walls

[light swan]

nah theyre saying teh game is visually cluttered

because they saw a picture of me in the cave leading out of feral undergrowth or smth

[tight viper]

Some walls are hard to see, but the bench one is not one of them

[light swan]

or the completely empty bridges entirely meant for wallpaper shit

[still osprey]

I think after a certain point you just kind of get a feel for where to look for breakable walls tbh

[icy crow]

Feral Overgrowth sounds so green

[still osprey]

oh another breakable wall in bilewater is in murglin

[fiery burrow]

looks fine to me chief

[still osprey]

leads to the lore tablet about pharloom bay or whatever

[hybrid flare]

why the fuck is bilewater a breakable wall in the first place

[still osprey]

that one is way more hidden

[light swan]

wrong color sorry

[lavish apex]

bilewater is cool but the bench is not is my take

[hybrid flare]

For some ungodly reason, your videos just dont load for me

[icy crow]

Better than greenslop 🔥

[minor sparrow]

And some traps leading to it

[light swan]

are there any green areas in mio

[hybrid flare]

memories in green

[still osprey]

I love how in the wiki it lists the post-bilehaven Bench as a reward 😭

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-why-are-you-green-what-is-wrong-with-you-gif-774466718616765419

[still osprey]

dude Groal's singing is so ass

never let that frog near a mic

[minor sparrow]

I mean yeah it does stay there

[lavish apex]

uh

[hybrid flare]

ps4 emulators otw to be the most unoptimized shit of all time

[minor sparrow]

Could be worse

[lavish apex]

this is the hollow knight discord i feel like that's not very surprising

[light swan]

kashimo fan? peakkkkk

[icy crow]

Technically PS4 emulation is quite still on its early works

[lavish apex]

lmao

[hybrid flare]

Living just in time to play slopborne on pc

[icy crow]

We've got decent emulation up to PS3 at the very least

[still osprey]

NEVER cook again

[light swan]

euhughuh lololol eeuhguehguheg lolol ehguheguheg lolololol

[icy crow]

Just buy the game on Steam lol

[exotic cedar]

Sound of an angel

[hybrid flare]

Bloodborne on steam eh?

[icy crow]

Huh. I swear it was in Steam before

[hybrid flare]

Dreaming rich i see?

[icy crow]

Hold on

[still osprey]

silksong boss tier list but it's ranked by how good their singing voice is. I should do this.

[hybrid flare]

karmelita STILL takes on the lead that is crazy

[fiery burrow]

The reason they don't port Bloodborne to steam is because they know people will realize the game still isn't good even if it runs smoothly

[light swan]

phantom S tier

[devout oracle]

so i've seen a different groal skip method by pogoing off some voltvessels until reaching the platform and use thread storm on it. i tried that and didn't work on me lol

[exotic cedar]

I like printer singing because i think she sings strive

[icy crow]

Yeah I was tunnel-visioning apparently lmao

[hybrid flare]

Starpengu have you gotten past the first 20 minutes of playtime

[broken seal]

ok i bought it

[exotic cedar]

Its patched

[broken seal]

i'm pretty sure

[hybrid flare]

are people fr hallucinating about pc bloodborne now

[devout oracle]

called it

[icy crow]

Just accepted the gift! Thanks twin 👀

[hybrid flare]

Wake up it's not real and it wont ever be

[fiery burrow]

I beat the first two bosses then realized the game was mid like all other fromsoftware games except for peakiro and armored peak

[broken seal]

ok so it worked and you have it?

[icy crow]

Yes

[broken seal]

W

[devout oracle]

welp, guess mods are the only way to skip groal lol

[hybrid flare]

Im liking it rn, it has its bads and its goods like literally every fucking game

[fiery burrow]

Yeah but does literally every game have blood vials

[hybrid flare]

It would be nice if i yk, could actually level up

[exotic cedar]

Don't skip groals handsome face

[fiery burrow]

I guess Silksong does

[broken seal]

[hybrid flare]

Almost twin, almost

Can't farm if you first try everything

[broken seal]

mb anyway hi goat i'm ready for your teachings, ig start with animation cancels or smth !! whatever you recommend learning first

[light swan]

as soon as the second hit of your dash attack lands, immediately press clawline

if you animation cancel well enough, you cut over half of the animation of the attack, incluyding the entire third

and that gives you a really great burst of 3x damage, equal to silkspear or cross stitch or pale nails

[scarlet halo]

guys is the boss before the surface city mandatory

[odd hull]

Sea of Sorrow?

[exotic cedar]

Surface city?

[light swan]

notice how i use it as a burst damage here

[odd hull]

Which boss?

[scarlet halo]

uhhh the town after that one moth fight

after killing the big robot guy

[light swan]

ill teach rdac chains later, lmk once youre good with animation cancels

[lavish apex]

are you talking about bellhart?

[scarlet halo]

i think

[broken seal]

holy aura on that kill

[lavish apex]

yes

[scarlet halo]

why is he so hard

legit makes me wanna kill myself

[broken seal]

i'm guessing the best place to practice this would just be on grand reeds?

[lavish apex]

widow?

[exotic cedar]

Widow? Sister splinter? I don't really understand

[light swan]

you can see here how useful animation cancels are

[scarlet halo]

the moth at the bell door

[light swan]

anything that can be dash attacked really, grand reeds are probably the most convenient

[hybrid flare]

Why does bloodborne have oneshot pigs

[broken seal]

also what do you recommend for red tools just in general? i'm not really a red tool person lol i like flintslate and sometimes fleabrew but most others i just forget to/don't care about using

[light swan]

idk i never use red tools but flea brew is specificlaly nerfed on witch crest

[broken seal]

💀

[light swan]

flintslate is probably always gonna be good

[still osprey]

dude these bosses can't fucking sing

[broken seal]

Skarrsinger:

[light swan]

in general just use red tools that fit your playstyle

i like silkshot for example and that has nothing to do with witch

[still osprey]

she and phantom might genuinelyt be the only ones in this fucking kingdom that can sing

[broken seal]

makes sense, thank you

[light swan]

do you know spogos yet

[broken seal]

Lace has a nice hum

[light swan]

and are you gonna do them

[left python]

Hey, I’ve found all three Melodies, if I play them will I trigger act 3? I don’t want to trigger it

[light swan]

spogos are the easiest and just unconditionally buff every single pogo

[broken seal]

kinda? i get the idea but i'm not exactly consistent and idk if there's a certain method to doing them

[broken seal]

def yeah

[light swan]

well its pretty much pogoing after a double jump IMMEDIATELY

[still osprey]

no you won't

[light swan]

like as soon as you can, it should ideally be like 2 frames apart

[left python]

Thanks man

[steep jolt]

shakra??? sherma???

[light swan]

only spogo clip i have on me rn

generally, if you can pogo then you can spogo

[exotic cedar]

I HATE SHERMA AND HIS STUPID SINGING THAT'S WHY I QUIT SILKSONG

[broken seal]

makes sense, i was doing close to that but i think i was missing parts of the sawtooth on occasion

[light swan]

and spogos are another great bit of burst damage

[lavish apex]

this sure is gameplay

[light swan]

did you input the spogo wrong or do you mean the sawtooth didnt hit

theres a chance it doesnt hit if youre like... SUPER high above the enemy and barley graze them with your pogo, like with longclaw or smth but thats unlikely

[broken seal]

this was earlier so i was probably judt doing the input wrong

[light swan]

also if the enemy is moving super fast and somehow manaes to move out the way of the sawtooth while youre spogoing

[light swan]

alr

[broken seal]

i'm also a switch player so i don't have access to hp bars n whatnot

also i don't have double jump LMAO

[light swan]

bruh go get it lol

[broken seal]

so that probably played a role in that 💀

[broken seal]

yea ima go do that 😭😭