sk-discussion

[placid citrus]

bro what is this obscure ahh knowledge lol

[timid valve]

the Knight is probably right-handed lorewise

[peak nymph]

no cause the knight is right handed

[timid sky]

🤓: silksong took 7 years

[vestal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-movie-the-weeknd-gif-17647432617606386843

[timid sky]

🤓: 2 of which were spent on polish

[placid citrus]

crazy

[timid valve]

Did you know that Glowing Womb doesn't attack Galien

[subtle lynx]

no

[strange knot]

Why did you say right deals more

[peak nymph]

you wasted my time
no one here unequipes shawman

i have shawman before my void

[subtle lynx]

I got confused, thought it was the other way around

[subtle lynx]

just wanted to throw in a little fun fact

[strange knot]

I have shaman stone equipped before even starting tha game

[peak nymph]

PEAK RAGEBAIT

[timid sky]

Yeah because i don't equip shaman

[placid citrus]

it was a cool fun fact fr

[peak nymph]

but u haven't un equip it
So u don't really count

[timid sky]

Well yeah

[peak nymph]

guys

[timid sky]

My hk build was strength, qs, mop and heart

[placid citrus]

y heart

[peak nymph]

ever thought that our void brother in hollow knight killed by hornet actually just quit the game

[timid sky]

Me no delicate flowery

[placid citrus]

aw

[peak nymph]

imagine if silksong had different starting

[inland sparrow]

Bro what the fuck was i doing when choosing my charms on my first run of hk

[peak nymph]

like 1st starting is hollow knight 1st ending
2nd is sealed siblings
3rd being true ending void
4 being god home

[placid citrus]

defender's crest+grub song+wayward compass+gathering swarm+flukenest?

add in dreamshield too

[peak nymph]

then delicate flower ending as well

[timid sky]

Holy delay

[tawdry valley]

That is the entrance to the stage she is performing in. This is unfortunately like looking at coral tower and saying “it’s implicit - they’ve gotta add stuff to more than the ground floor”

[inland sparrow]

How did you know my first charm build

[placid citrus]

i felt the vibes or smth ik

[tawdry valley]

You got defenders and fluke before any other build?

[placid citrus]

it's a peak build bro you're just not giving it a chance

[peak nymph]

ngl path of pain with the kings soul would have been easier

think about it

[light swan]

fun fact heavy blow is kind of useful on witch crest

[subtle lynx]

no, not really

[timid sky]

Only the last part maybe

[peak nymph]

i mean you would do it sooo many times you are bound to get good

[timid sky]

You get infinite soul totems at almost every checkpoint

[placid citrus]

i don't think i'd be patient enough to wait, i'd rather just take the death

[subtle lynx]

there are soul totems in every check point besides the one you can skip if you die, at which point you should be running hiveblood if anything

[peak nymph]

bruh kings soul is def better than hiveblood

[subtle lynx]

it is literally not

[peak nymph]

i rather die than wait for hiveblood

[subtle lynx]

I'd rather die than wait for kingsoul

[inland sparrow]

okay but vespa is hot

[timid sky]

Not by much

[subtle lynx]

it's slower and takes one extra notch

[peak nymph]

bee ee

[placid citrus]

uh i use neither

[subtle lynx]

what is there to like

[peak nymph]

bad bee

[subtle lynx]

besides, you can already use kingsoul for path of pain, but nobody uses it for a reason

[placid citrus]

why would u ever use hiveblood OR kingsoul

[timid sky]

Just use deep focus

[subtle lynx]

hiveblood for regen duh

[timid sky]

Or better yet switch to hornet with f5

[placid citrus]

yeah just overdose on lifeblood

[peak nymph]

hornet would cheat

literally fly upwards

[subtle lynx]

not many rooms in which that would be useful

can't think of any really

grappling hook would be broken maybe

[elder falcon]

I wanna hear some boss hottakes

[peak nymph]

hear me out

[subtle lynx]

single conchfly is one of the best bosses and trobbio sucks ass

[trim estuary]

Crawfather is Silksong’s best boss

[placid citrus]

ye tru cuz unlike dash you could just spam it until u run out of silk

[light swan]

khann is a really damn good boss

who is designed really well and creates such a good experience

[peak nymph]

grandmother silk is a|| U perv||

[light swan]

and he is NOT a fraud

[trim estuary]

Khann is definitely a fraud

[elder falcon]

Sister splinter is one of the best bosses there is

[trim estuary]

He’s cool and fun but also a fraud

[placid citrus]

that's just tryna be diff ngl

[light swan]

seth is from shakras tribe

[timid sky]

Shakra is harder than lost lace

[elder falcon]

Its not i really enjoy it and its a good difficulty curve for beginners

[subtle lynx]

shakra is so easy

[timid sky]

Teleport spam

[peak nymph]

khan iacts like tuff general but when it comes to fight he hides at the last place
not even that strong

[subtle lynx]

you just have to not be a brainless

[placid citrus]

what difficulty curve bro the boss has 2 easily dodgable attacks

[peak nymph]

i mean ya all think khan was a good bug

[digital sandal]

i preferred grubberfly effigy infinite health combo to hiveblood for my path of pain attempt... waiting for hiveblood to recharge takes too long

[elder falcon]

I consider it a better difficulty curve compared to last judge

[light swan]

khann was a well designed boss who is super fun and intense

[digital sandal]

apparently i didnt send that comment when it was relevant

oh well

[elder falcon]

But hottakes are hot for a reason

[smoky bridge]

I mean, it is a really good boss tho.

[peak nymph]

yes, yes he was illusiuon 2 (covens witch herald)

[subtle lynx]

nope, not really

[timid sky]

Yall asked for hot takes

[elder falcon]

Vibe wise he passes 10/10

[subtle lynx]

it's extremely easy and only offers one new attack

[subtle lynx]

which is barely even an attack

[timid sky]

Crawfather has aura

[placid citrus]

i don't think khann is intense

[elder falcon]

Mechanic wise he could be better

[knotty vapor]

Crawfather is more of a judge than the ironically named boss with the same namesake is

[smoky bridge]

I don't know if it is well designed on purpose but it is really well designed for such a simple boss.

[elder falcon]

Mob boss

[subtle lynx]

I don't think he is well designed at all

[light swan]

i do

[trim estuary]

• Completely unique way to find him
• Has a gauntlet
• Most aura out of any boss
• Very fun
• Great reward
  Objectively best boss

[smoky bridge]

Nah it is the bast summoner boss in the game bar none.

[peak nymph]

lost lace is like 2026

[subtle lynx]

he does 2 attacks that we have seen a million times, summons, and then he does that spike attack which is impossible to get hit by

[placid citrus]

he's a fun boss sure but he isn't rlly intense imo

[subtle lynx]

that's not saying anything

[light swan]

thats why its a hot take, i think khann is intense

[leaden delta]

eh the best summon boss is beastfly 1

[peak nymph]

void savage beastfly is the most difficult boss

[leaden delta]

but that boss is mid as hell still

[elder falcon]

Another hottake : the unravelled has the best vibes for a boss fight in the whole game. Better than lost lace and gm silk

[leaden delta]

which is sad

[timid sky]

Idk , i don't see someone slamming their face into the ground rapidly a lot

[leaden delta]

Silksong doesn’t have shit

[light swan]

nope thats khann

[peak nymph]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929400024595595315/1126978894688440410/ED6EFBC5-A68E-48C6-9103-B123B1ECC22D.gif

[inland sparrow]

And we should respect your opinion

[timid sky]

(Triple slam not the diagonal dive)

[trim estuary]

This is indeed a hot take because this goes to Crawfather too

[smoky bridge]

I don't see how anyone can beat GMS in the aura farming context.

[elder falcon]

I have no strong feelings towards khann i just think his arena looks cool but it doesnt really have vibes just aesthetic

[subtle lynx]

it's literally just a short dash with a new paint coat

[light swan]

i do because khann exists

[smoky bridge]

I like the way Crawfather demands a wholly different way of fighting than the jury craws.

[subtle lynx]

I mean yeah? he is a boss

[light swan]

and i call it silk skills

rune rage :)

[timid sky]

Even groal has more aura than gms

[subtle lynx]

though I wouldn't say he demands anything at all lol

he is so stupidly easy

[timid sky]

"Their shells are ours. their souls are ours. Our hate is forever"

[light swan]

crawfather is fun

[elder falcon]

Gms lost all her aura the moment she had the same damage output as any other boss

[trim estuary]

And he is still the best boss hands down

The best bosses in Silksong are the easiest ones sadly

[placid citrus]

what does dmg have to do with it lmao

[light swan]

gms lost her aura after she died

[smoky bridge]

It means whatever you are doing, you have to take focus off of the other, forcing you to juggle them.
But at the same time it doesn't have the problem of Beastfly 2 where the summons are deeply annoying
And doesn't have the thing Beastfly one does, where its summons can be killed by him very easily.

[timid sky]

Seth, karmelita, ll?

[subtle lynx]

a boss is supposed to be challenging for the time you fight them. Moss mother is easy but an incredible boss while crawfather is easy but sucks ass

[placid citrus]

do we even know if gms dies at the end of act 3

[elder falcon]

2 heart damage for final boss for a significant chapter when the normal enemy deals 2 damage makes the stakes feel low

[smoky bridge]

Tho that's a good design, just a wholly different concept.

[light swan]

gms lost her aura after she was defeated

[trim estuary]

What? No. Crawfather, First Sinner, Lace 2

[light swan]

second sentinel

[placid citrus]

nah bro fighting back against the void even after being swallowed by it is sick af

[smoky bridge]

I wish Cogwork Dancers were a bit tankier

[timid sky]

No, i'm asking how the best bosses are the easiest if seth, karmelita and ll are right there

[elder falcon]

Ways to improve pale stag?

[smoky bridge]

I kill them too fast and don't get to enjoy the past anymore.

[subtle lynx]

with moss mother you don't have many tools so she has to be simple, whilist with crawfather, you have to be in act 3 which measn having all movement options, but he doesn't require you to do anything special lol

[trim estuary]

I’ve only fought them once and I hardly remember the fight so I’ll take your word for it

[smoky bridge]

Out back, old yeller style.

[subtle lynx]

they need to be faster

another bad boss

it is stupidly easy too

[light swan]

well in all endings except snared silk she gets clowned on

[trim estuary]

Karmelita is the only difficult and fun boss that would be considered “The Best”

[smoky bridge]

It is, but I never fell like it brings them down.

[placid citrus]

tru

[smoky bridge]

They're more of a... Story telling device than a full fledged boss.

[light swan]

in snared silk she gets snared, her arm gets cut off by her daughter, and then she turns into a coughing baby at the bottom of the world

[subtle lynx]

you can be a story telling device while being a good boss

[smoky bridge]

Yeah, like Groal

[elder falcon]

New hornet dlc image team cherry put out recently, looking pretty good but i dont know how to feel about the new hornet model

[smoky bridge]

:v

I still really like Cogwork Dancers, but also I'm not like. Extremely into difficulty. I just like fun mechanics. I like the Idea of a boss that follows the rhythm of the music.

[smoky bridge]

And cover dancers serve as a more challenging version of that boss. Basically like a dream version of Cogwork.

[placid citrus]

hornet on a motorcycle

[smoky bridge]

I am. Very easy to please.

[timid sky]

I had groal die to a pimpillo and drop a seared organ yesterday

[peak nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/help-gif-9858523764566581784

[smoky bridge]

I just like games. :v

[light swan]

cogwork dancers are fine clover dancers need to have a more interesting rhythm or new attacks

[peak nymph]

now that i think baout it

[timid sky]

Or yesteryesterday idk

[smoky bridge]

Yeah bosses can drop organs for the quest.

[timid sky]

It was phenomenal

[smoky bridge]

... I should have checked of Cogwork Dancers drop organs, damn.

[timid sky]

I burst out laughing

[smoky bridge]

Now I'm gonna have to start a new run to check it...

[elder falcon]

Guys check out this meme i made is it good

[smoky bridge]

Probably not, cause TC did put an exception on the Cogwork enemies not to drop organs but still.

[timid sky]

I don't think cogworks drop organs, if normal cog enemies don't i don't think the cogwork dancers should

[smoky bridge]

They shouldn't but I still want to check.

[placid citrus]

if they do it's just an oversight

[timid sky]

Though i doubt tc expects you to get broodfeast before cog dancers, so maybe they could've missed it

[subtle lynx]

I don't think they do, but the plant enemies do drop them which IS an oversight

[smoky bridge]

The plant enemies drop organs.
I think it's funny to roll up to huntress with the equivalent of Impossible burgers. Surprise Vegan

[white bison]

i died on act 3 steel soul because of a glitch 😭

[elder falcon]

Surprise vegan, she never saw it coming

[midnight jasper]

I beat Skarrsinger Katmritealta

Karmilita

[strange knot]

NOOOO

[midnight jasper]

Markelita

[light swan]

krimalta

[midnight jasper]

Karmelita i mean

[smoky bridge]

Karmel

[strange knot]

Carmelita

[smoky bridge]

Ain't that the guy from Brooklyn 99

[midnight jasper]

Sorry huys im in a rush my spelling is like

[smoky bridge]

((peralta. This joke sucks))

[timid sky]

For the kernel pult yeah, for the face thrower i feel like it makes sense, they have a face, probably got brains

[midnight jasper]

Not good

[white bison]

yes i used the summon little bell beasts and the hitboes were unaligned and it thought i was falling into the spikes and wouldnt let me leave the anamation so i died

[light swan]

silksong psoilers

[craggy surge]

Is karmelita harder than lost lace? or at least like below lace?

[elder falcon]

Finally saved enough money to get every hollow knight game recently, very happy about my collection

[light swan]

below

[inland sparrow]

Good job

[strange knot]

Should’ve save quitted

[placid citrus]

i'd call em even ngl

[craggy surge]

How many tries?

[smoky bridge]

The flower bugs (the little explode ones that disguise as platforming flowers) are specifically bugs camouflaged as flowers so those get a pass.

[timid sky]

I've seen this screenshot before

[craggy surge]

Oh shit 😭 its the last boss so wish me luck

[timid sky]

Yeah

[smoky bridge]

Hell nah.
Lace is harder IMO

[midnight jasper]

A lot

[smoky bridge]

Karmel doesn't have mixups.

[elder falcon]

Im sure you have buddy

[light swan]

hot take lost lace is a fun boss to fight

[smoky bridge]

Lace has ten billion mixups.

She is I love LL

[white bison]

i beat skarsinger karmelita on september 27th at 9:47 PM EST after 9 tries

[light swan]

she has like 1

[midnight jasper]

Blasted Steps

?

[placid citrus]

ye it's just imo, i think they're abt the same difficulty wise

[light swan]

or two actually

tripledash and tripleslash

[white bison]

yes

[graceful cairn]

true

[smoky bridge]

Karmelita is really fun to fight with Beast crest.

[craggy surge]

Was she harder than lost lace? if you fought her

[light swan]

i guess the difference between dive and tentacles could be a mixup

[craggy surge]

Nice

[light swan]

after that theres no mixups

[elder falcon]

Been maining beast crest for 3 weeks now I think i finally got the hand of it 🔥 🔥

[smoky bridge]

Nah, a lot of the attacks have like three possible follow ups

[white bison]

i always use hunters crest, its my favorite

[inland sparrow]

same

[trim estuary]

as a beast main this is incredibly painful to watch

[light swan]

tripledahs and tripleslash thats it

oh wait the two types of parry could be considered a mixup

[timid sky]

Just snare bro

[elder falcon]

Thanks I think i did good

[smoky bridge]

I'm pretty sure there is more but I only fought her once and it was a long time ago, and then I took a super long break

[white bison]

i liked silksong MORE than hk

[light swan]

can you remember more for me

[strange knot]

Flea brew bottle too op frfr

[timid sky]

Same

[smoky bridge]

I didn't even beat her cause I got burnt out because of university :(

I had no time to play gaems

[timid sky]

Hornet is so much more flexible as a playable character

[inland sparrow]

Same thogh hk is still very very good

[timid sky]

I've gotten silksong te thrice now and only today beat thk on my second playthrough

[smoky bridge]

I did fail History of American literature because of silksong.
Damn you, team cherry!

[elder falcon]

Final silkpost of the day then ill stop

[inland sparrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore

[white bison]

yes also godmaster is peak

[elder falcon]

What did i do 😭

[light swan]

it was the cherry on the top bro

[white bison]

i want silksong god master

[light swan]

i needed exactly 3 damage and flea bottle dealt 3 damage

MVP

[timid sky]

Sonic the hedgehog pfps proceeding to be annoying asf 🔥

[strange knot]

The best tool did all the work for you

[timid sky]

It's happened to me before

[elder falcon]

Genuinely what did i do

[timid sky]

Phenomenal

[smoky bridge]

It be a meme?

[smoky bridge]

People who refuse to use red tools entirely are kinda funny to me.

The same feeling as the players who refuse to use summons for Souls games. :v
I dunno, I feel like entirely ignoring a mechanic is kinda... Boring?

I get the Idea of it, but I never feel the need to handicap myself.

But as I said I'm not like. A difficulty buff.

[elder falcon]

You just assaulted the man

[light swan]

well some people think red tools arent fun

[craggy surge]

I dont use red tools cuz i dont like the extra controls to manage lol

[strange knot]

I just don’t like most of the reds

[timid sky]

I only use a few red tools consistently

[craggy surge]

And i dont think there are any that fun red tools

[light swan]

silkshot and pimpillo are the only fun ones

[strange knot]

Am doing snare pogo only challenge run it’s fun

[smoky bridge]

I actually despise Wanderer, purely because I always have my main tool on down cast, and I keep trying to use my one tool, and instead getting smacked in the face when I accidentally Cross Stitch for no reason.

[light swan]

doesnt cross stitch stop you from getting hit

[fiery burrow]

The (un)reliable Delver's Drill:

[smoky bridge]

I wish I could just... Force the wanderer tool to be on down cast.

[elder falcon]

Straight pin is my favorite red tool cause i never bothered changing it most of the time

[timid sky]

Plasmium phial, flea brew, flintslate, tacks, cogflies, sometimes voltvessels and curvesickle

[placid citrus]

not if u miss time it

[light swan]

mid silkshot pimpillo better

[smoky bridge]

No cause I try to use the tool in the "safe moment" get cross stitch instead, and then get confused.

[craggy surge]

lmao

[strange knot]

Snare setter and drill

[timid sky]

Yeah wanderer only having 2 active slots is a pretty huge downside

[smoky bridge]

It really takes me out of the flow basically.

[light swan]

lame unlike pimp shot

[white bison]

my friends friends friend spams wanderer

[craggy surge]

Does anyone here use hunter's crest?

[graceful cairn]

i just have more fun slapping the shit out of the boss than using red tools

[strange knot]

I will be glazing snaresetter til I die

[elder falcon]

Headbutter gameplay

[light swan]

hi

[timid sky]

Slickback shot

[strange knot]

Ye

[fiery burrow]

Drill requires a bit more involvement than Pimpillo

Although both are pretty fun

[timid sky]

Yeah

[light swan]

but pimpillo is funner

[graceful cairn]

second best crest!

[placid citrus]

y use both at the same time

[placid citrus]

ye bro

[smoky bridge]

Drill is great on Beast, both because it helps with platforming, and because Beast pogo positions you for the drill as followup

[white bison]

Yes, bruh i love that crest so much i beat EVERY SINGLE BOSS with it except for plasmified zango

[elder falcon]

2nd best crest

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/snare-setter-silksong-hunters-march-karmelita-skip-gif-2857707459481665153

[craggy surge]

best for me

[strange knot]

Btw the only reason snare setter is goated

[graceful cairn]

shaman is better

[strange knot]

You can move with the speed of light

[white bison]

i think hunter best too

[craggy surge]

I beat every single even zango cuz i didnt bother changing it lol

[elder falcon]

What did plasmified zango do

[placid citrus]

bro was on their way to volt pogo

[craggy surge]

not for me

[smoky bridge]

Drill is like... Top 5 tools

[timid sky]

Downdash ahh snare setter

[white bison]

i wanderer spammed him 🙁

[smoky bridge]

Flintslate is The NR 1 best tool IMO

[white bison]

meh

[light swan]

meh

[elder falcon]

TC promotes beating drug addicts

[white bison]

...

[smoky bridge]

You can stab him with the funny extraction phial and it cuts his regen significantly it's funny.

[strange knot]

Anyway, volt balls the best tool frfr

[white bison]

i didnt know dat

[smoky bridge]

Like there is no need to do that, you can just smack him to death perfectly well.

[elder falcon]

That was sarcasm

[smoky bridge]

But you could.

[white bison]

volt balls best

[strange knot]

The best for groal and hunters march void arena

[timid sky]

The best tool is injector band

[elder falcon]

TC promotes beating everything to death they dont discriminate

[timid sky]

Worth it on every crest

[strange knot]

False. Circlet exists

[elder falcon]

Based and true

[smoky bridge]

Except theatre majors.

[smoky bridge]

I'd make an exception for beast.

[timid sky]

No

[elder falcon]

Trobbio had it coming

[light swan]

pimpillo silkshot

[white bison]

i beat groal the great by SITTING IN THE WATER AND NOT LEAVING IT because his attacks cant hit you in the water

[smoky bridge]

You only get one slot, and you don't really need to have the faster bind.

[light swan]

except for witch crest

[white bison]

and then multibinder

[fiery burrow]

Beast with injector bands can heal before the iframes from getting hit run out

[smoky bridge]

I refuse to get in the water.

[fiery burrow]

Which is pretty cool for bosses and makes it worth it although its not the only viable pick

[white bison]

jump in the DAMN BILGEWATER

[smoky bridge]

Yeah and then you get smacked again once they run out.

[elder falcon]

Hey man the maggot friends miss you

[smoky bridge]

Because you decided to park your ass in their hitbox. And they randomly refuse to leave.

[wary storm]

ayo silksong npcs are less functional / tell us less lore / have little to no character arcs than in the HK 1 game

[smoky bridge]

Me when I lie?

[elder falcon]

Its cause they dont all die

[light swan]

injector bands is mid because it’s a waste of a slot when you dont heal

[wary storm]

most of the hk npcs dont die

[craggy surge]

Whats the best loadout for pogo minigame at flea camp? i mean tools

[fiery burrow]

Not that big of an issue for beast

[elder falcon]

Now thats just a lie

[smoky bridge]

It cuts down your fury timer significantly.

((2.5 seconds))

[wary storm]

yep tell me im wrong then

[light swan]

and healing extends the timer

[smoky bridge]

Yes, but not as much.

[light swan]

getting hit once but then landing 3 heals is still long enough

[craggy surge]

Are there any tools that can help me win the pogo minigame at flea camp?

[strange knot]

Quirell
Cloth
The moth who gives you dream nail

[smoky bridge]

It's fine to pop the first fury instantly, but Ideally you want to get smacked for at least 2 masks, and then bind again.

[light swan]

you don’t get any tools in the games

[strange knot]

Zote can die also

[smoky bridge]

Gives you more silk to work with, so you can spare it on Cross Stitch.

[craggy surge]

Wait really? not even yellow and blue?

[wary storm]

green prince, zylotol, garmond

[light swan]

ya

[elder falcon]

Quirrel
Myla
Tiso
Zote (on some occasions)
All the dreamers
Grey mourner
Cloth

[craggy surge]

Didnt even realise that lol

[wary storm]

who tf is toph

[icy crow]

Does anyone here know a good GE-Proton version to run Steam games in Linux

[strange knot]

No one cares about zylotol tbh

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[wary storm]

yeah thats npc

[elder falcon]

Wrote cloth as toph force of habit

Nailsmith too if you kill him

[white bison]

guess my pc background

[elder falcon]

In a sense, hk npcs tell more lore since theyre all doomed to die in the end

[strange knot]

Your pfp

[white bison]

no iys the rain world promo art

[white bison]

lol

[elder falcon]

Silksong npcs are like the dirtmouth guys, alive so not much to say except their daily lives and just to hangout

[fiery burrow]

I think HK NPCs were more interesting and likeable overall

[white bison]

well, i need to get back to work now (work for me means sitting in my basement playing rain world and CS2)

[lavish apex]

sherma is good but it would be better if you could shoot him

[elder falcon]

We got to know them more for longer and theres significantly less of them to keep track of

[smoky bridge]

I much prefer Shakra to Conifer.

I like conifer. But Shakra is undeniably cool.

[charred ruin]

what did sherma ever do to u bro 😭

[fiery burrow]

Yea

[smoky bridge]

Sherma should have a way to die so you actually have a reason to care. :v

[wary storm]

green prince
zylotol
garmond
pilby
huntress (on some occasions)
all the snail shamans
mort
that guy with magnet dices
mottled skarr
loam
12th architect
greyroot

[white bison]

*Throws bomb at sherma

[wary storm]

and there is LESS NPCS IN SILKSONG, im not even counting ghosts from hk1

[white bison]

you pfp is cursed....

[lavish apex]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-hollow-knight-sherma-silksong-sherma-death-gif-6060867535646958610

[elder falcon]

But hardly any of them are characters we talk to on occasion, only one is garmond and zaza

[strange knot]

Sherma

[wary storm]

there isn't any npcs then

[strange knot]

Pilby doesn’t die on some occasions
Also pebb dies too

[lavish apex]

(it's a bit)

[smoky bridge]

You can absolutely talk with Green Buge, Shamans...

[fiery burrow]

Pilby dissapears no matter what

[smoky bridge]

Who was pebb? The shopkeep?

[fiery burrow]

Might technically be alive but like ???

[smoky bridge]

I always forget her name.

[strange knot]

Yep the one in bonebottom

[wary storm]

and did you talked a lot with dreamers? or maybe grey mourner

[smoky bridge]

Oh yeah you can kill her.

How does she even lose that many rosaries between bone bottom and that one spot in the marrow.

Madam you barely made it four screens.

[charred ruin]

dies to contact damage but not environmental hazards 😭

[white bison]

grey mourner is a ancient knight or somethin right?

[wary storm]

most of silksong characters, like 90% has no character arc

[smoky bridge]

Madam I stuffed your pockets where is my goddamn money.

[smoky bridge]

Yeah one of the King's knights.

[elder falcon]

My point is that theres less npcs to keep track of in hk than there is in silksong making it so they had to have them repeating in several areas to have story arcs and lore to build onto the world since hallownest is a dying kingdom

Pharloom is merely a kingdom in ruin, all the settlers are still very much alive and all the people we meet that die we only meet them on a short occasion

[white bison]

along with dung defender (harold)? and false knight (fat grub?)

[lavish apex]

i do like cloth and quirrel more than skong's travelling npcs personally

[smoky bridge]

I mean the difference is pharloom is Alive. Those people aren't adventurers or travelers trying to find some meaning in a dead fabled kingdom, they're just residents of the world.

[elder falcon]

Except garmond and zaza

[lavish apex]

g&z are funny

[trim estuary]

His NAME is OGRIM!!!!

[white bison]

rip garamond

[elder falcon]

I agree with you btw

[white bison]

HIS NAME IS HAROLD

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-pawing-at-hand-cat-meow-need-yearn-gif-8848488509745674957

[white bison]

that ai

[loud junco]

guys will Pharloom change if I go to act 3??

[white bison]

YES

[wary storm]

like nothing, like it was with pimmley, he just says hello im nailsmith i can upgrade your weapon, then he disappears, goes out to die and you must save him, thats it, whole character arc is 2 interactions

[trim estuary]

Nah

[inland sparrow]

Yep

[fiery burrow]

Making a bunch of boring characters doesn't feel like the right way to sell that your world is alive...

[loud junco]

okay

[smoky bridge]

Yes the pilgrims are trying to find meaning, but it's purely like. Through pilgrimage.

[white bison]

EVERYTHING TURNS INTO A TANKY B

[loud junco]

do some places get locked tho?

[wary storm]

there is more npcs in hk than in silksong

[loud junco]

huh

[white bison]

i cant remember maybe

[smoky bridge]

I don't think they're boring...

[white bison]

all enemy get like triple HP

[loud junco]

okay

[smoky bridge]

Mort is funny. I like Mort. Fuck that guy but I do like him as a character.

Mort You little shit.

[elder falcon]

Oh well no point changing your mind. But I do agree that sherma or shakra shouldve died for angst

[white bison]

.:⁝:.

[elder falcon]

As much as it would sadden me to see them die

[smoky bridge]

Shakra makes sense to stay alive. She is too tuff to get put down :v

I wish Sherma had some death potential, that you could go out of your way to rescue him from.

[wary storm]

I could even agree if world really was alive, but I can hardly remember anything that would change locations except act 3 (where all locations would just die and thats it) and that one guy on the image

[white bison]

im working on a mod called "RIP SHERMA THE DEATH OF SHERMA"

[elder falcon]

Sherma death potential w

[peak nymph]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[elder falcon]

Closest we got was whiteward but that was only an interaction

[smoky bridge]

He can't even die in Whiteward. And I know cause I forgot about rescuing him for like. Most of act 2.

[white bison]

slay the spire 2 has sold over 100,000 copies in 3 days

[peak nymph]

we already have that or i m in a different universe

[smoky bridge]

I was busy

[wary storm]

would world really get alive if you could fail most of your quests?

i think yes

[white bison]

it has been added to my steam lubrary of 700 and growing

[smoky bridge]

I just never got invested in sherma. I don't care for Sherma.

[elder falcon]

100% would riot lol

[white bison]

also i have pablo

[strange knot]

Tbh it would be cool to let you get to act 3 without balm of the wounded(Sherma quest) and if you do that Sherma dies in Whiteward

[white bison]

HK pablo is better than silksong

[elder falcon]

But alternative endings would be cool

[smoky bridge]

His innocence really grinds my gears in an unpleasant way.

Like ok, I gET IT!

[light swan]

sherma needs to die

[smoky bridge]

At least he has a character arc.

[peak nymph]

nah

it's only you two

[white bison]

sherma is just a little guy who sings at doors

[smoky bridge]

Like. Reaching a more mature way of faith.

[elder falcon]

He shouldve died for angst

Now im not saying i hate him-

[smoky bridge]

I don't hate sherma, but I think he should have had more times where his faith was challenged.

There's only whiteward and act 3, which. It's the end of the world.

[elder falcon]

The whiteward interaction is cool give me 2 more of those

[smoky bridge]

He just feels too clueless for me to be believable?

[peak nymph]

wait but wouldn't that be rasict
like why would u want a kind ethinic, minority die

[smoky bridge]

How do you get so far being so DUMB

[wary storm]

imagine sherma dying because you decided to shit around the world instead of saving him, imagine nailmaster dying because you decided that it would be a neat idea to go deliver some shit instead of saving him, imagine vog hitting you 2 masks because you didn't listen when she said "hey dont talk to me again or i will kill you", imagine tip and pill dying and someone would take their jobs as a couriers

[peak nymph]

hmmm

[white bison]

sherma is kinda dum

[peak nymph]

seems kinda racist

[elder falcon]

I kind of like sherma as a way of indirectly showing the faith of an alive pilgrim, kind of a subtle worldbuilding thing

[wary storm]

imagine so much potential silksong had to get pretty generic with quest system

[elder falcon]

Theyre bugs

[smoky bridge]

I do like his character arc tho.

[knotty vapor]

beast crest is disgusting against LL 😭

[strange knot]

Not all quests are bad imo

[smoky bridge]

I wish. Pilby had more to him.

[white bison]

LORE THEORY: sherma is actually GMS in disguise trying to eliminate us all after he fills the well of POWER

[peak nymph]

this is what the 1940's people used to say to justify their actions

[wary storm]

yeah there is 30% good quests

[inland sparrow]

Chicken wings🤤

[white bison]

i think the wish system couldve been better

[wary storm]

other 70 is generic "collect 10 melons" type quests

[smoky bridge]

I like the feast quest. People hate it, but zinreslly enjoyed it. Forcing me to experiment with different tools is neat.

[exotic cedar]

Collect my bells

[smoky bridge]

One of the better ones. Of the "collect shit" variety

[exotic cedar]

No bellhart

[wary storm]

and you could just skip them and you'd need to go back to collect stuff AGAIN

[smoky bridge]

Now THE SILVER BELLS?

Deplorable.

[white bison]

it forces you to go to sands of karak just like act 3, eugh

[elder falcon]

I mean to satisfy your question we dont KNOW if shermas a minority or not, we just dont see others like him but we can assume hes a common bug like every other pilgrim. Besides if he dies its natural selection since he chose to hike up the death trap that is the citadel

[white bison]

silver bells is grind slop

[strange knot]

Silver bells aren’t that bad either overhated I would say

[smoky bridge]

No, the Huntress.

[strange knot]

They suck to speedrun tho

[white bison]

ohh

[wary storm]

imagine if you could kill those flying enemies with needles in far fields, and collect their needles before getting drifter's cloak quest

[white bison]

i thought you meant the soup quest one

[exotic cedar]

I don't like most of the wishboard quests (bone bottom, bellhart and songclave) but huntress and grand taste of pharloom quests are fine

[wary storm]

like then you'd use them as one-time collectable throwable needles

[smoky bridge]

The best way to do it is to reload the same location a bunch of times. It definitely deserves the hate.

[white bison]

i gtg now bye!

[peak nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/kaworu-kaworu-jose-kaworu-evangelion-gif-22730387

[inland sparrow]

Bye

[strange knot]

Bye

[exotic cedar]

Wishes in first playthrough isnt that bad but in replays it can get boring

[peak nymph]

bro fell

[smoky bridge]

And bellveins are kinda boring.

[elder falcon]

Me too actually its 1 am i need to wake up in 4 hours bye

[strange knot]

Agree.

[fiery burrow]

I don't think killing every NPC who's quests you procrastinated on would be good

[smoky bridge]

True.

I just specifically have it out for Sherma.

[fiery burrow]

Its a non linear game that encourages coming back later if you don't want to do something

Its also just not that interesting

[exotic cedar]

Esp if you rush the game all the way to act 2 without doing anything at all

[smoky bridge]

Not because I don't like him, I just feel like I never cared cause I firmly believed the game would refuse to actually hurt him.

[strange knot]

The thing I dislike the most about wishes is that you need to talk for 5 hours to an npc to finish the wish😭. wtf you mean I have to talk to caretaker like 6 times to finish silk and soul

[fiery burrow]

I hate Silk and Soul with every fiber of my being

[strange knot]

Nah silk and soul is cool why do you hate that

[exotic cedar]

Only good part about silk and soul is groal/bilewater

[fiery burrow]

Why are donation quests mandatory why is Shakra's quest mandatory why do you need to mess around finding fleas and doing fetch quests to progress

Shakra's quest is literally just a cutscene 😭

[exotic cedar]

Oh yeah that

[smoky bridge]

I know people say they always rushed whiteward wish immediately but I like. Mentally logged it for later.
"Sorry mate, I'm getting pale oil, you're gonna have to sit tight"

[exotic cedar]

I don't like them too lol

[peak nymph]

i read your bio
everything u said checks out

[fiery burrow]

Why is a metroidvania tying progression to quests instead of movement abilities in the first place

[strange knot]

Why do you have to spend like 5000 rosaries for act 3 without buying anything else

[smoky bridge]

It's like. A really old meme about religious fundamentalists making trans people sound really cool.

[exotic cedar]

If you rush the game it gets %100 worse

Since you all have to focus on fucking quests all the time

[fiery burrow]

[peak nymph]

how old like 2 months

[fiery burrow]

My second playthrough I jumped into a no needle upgrades challenge back when the requirements for act 3 weren't super known

[strange knot]

Quests are ok with good route tbh

[smoky bridge]

Memes have rather short lifespans.

[strange knot]

I still dislike most of them tho

[fiery burrow]

Turns out you need to upgrade your needle to get one of the Bellhart quests which is mandatory 😭

[smoky bridge]

And I just don't rember

I am the one freak that enjoys the delivery quests.

[strange knot]

I love them

[smoky bridge]

Listen.
They are way more fun than farming, especially of you do not plan the route out and just wing them.

[fiery burrow]

Lacquer and Rasher are good fun

[exotic cedar]

Delivery quests are fun honestly

But fleatopia ughh i hate ducts

[smoky bridge]

I did rather through underworks.

[strange knot]

Btw mod to fix couriers rng on older patches is now allowed in speedruns

[smoky bridge]

Rng?

[exotic cedar]

Also a reward for completing delivery quests would be fun, idk something like a rashers memento

[smoky bridge]

Via Wisp Thicket.

Surprisingly safe once you kill FoTF

[exotic cedar]

Would make them more worth it and give mementos more variety

Why is 4 of the mementos require defeating a boss. Its kinda stupid

[strange knot]

If you get songclave as one of the couriers is a huge timeloss. And on older patches, you can get 2 same couriers wishes 2 times in a row and your run is practically fucked. I think I explained ts badly

[loud junco]

I'm so sad rn, I was so escited to go into act 3 and now I found out that I have to do the quest silk and soul

[inland sparrow]

the quest is easy

[smoky bridge]

You get a. Choice tho?

[fiery burrow]

Any part you're stuck on in particular or do you just not like it

[loud junco]

but hwere do I find the things

[rocky jolt]

apart from seekers soul the quest is free

[strange knot]

Wdym

[inland sparrow]

do you want me to tell you?

[exotic cedar]

Talk with caretaker

[smoky bridge]

Want me to just spoil it? It's pretty obvious if you think about it tho.

[exotic cedar]

He says sacra boris

[loud junco]

oh

really?

[strange knot]

You don’t that’s the issue @smoky bridge

[rocky jolt]

ah elos

[smoky bridge]

I don't think I do.

[loud junco]

nah

[exotic cedar]

He says where the items are

[inland sparrow]

k

[exotic cedar]

Sacra boris is just the sound he makes lol

[strange knot]

OII

That’s the sound he makes

Or ahoy

[smoky bridge]

Oi

Really annoying too.

[strange knot]

Yep I agree

Btw bellhome key is such a dumb requirement for silk and soul

[smoky bridge]

I still love how Hornet steals the shaman crest and just tells the Shamans post factum.

[exotic cedar]

When you want to make sherma sing he sings too

[smoky bridge]

"Yo, Just so you know, I ransacked your shit."

[exotic cedar]

Like bro shut up

[quartz moat]

yo, i wanted to ask a question, people always say that silksong is hard and way worse than hollow knight but personally i like more silksong. Yeah there might be a lot of enemies that do 2 masks but it's fine, it's way more fun overall thanks to the enemies and the movement that you get. Is it just me?

[strange knot]

Someone ever said silksong is way worse than hk?😭

[inland sparrow]

I like silksong more

[strange knot]

Same

[smoky bridge]

Lots of people tbh.

[strange knot]

I hate casuals /s

[light swan]

no

[smoky bridge]

I understand it, it's different than HK.

[exotic cedar]

I like them equally

[inland sparrow]

But people have opinions

[smoky bridge]

And people kinds expected "hollow knight but more"

[pale ingot]

“Kinda”

[smoky bridge]

My friend like. Got really attached to hollow knight, and bounced off of Skong, and has like. Vitriolic hatred of it.

[trim estuary]

Silksong’s story and writing is significantly worse but the gameplay and action of Silksong is way better

[smoky bridge]

I actually really like the story...

[strange knot]

Yep and gameplay > story if story isn’t actively awful

[smoky bridge]

It's just less personal.

[trim estuary]

It’s a mess is what it is

[pale ingot]

No it’s personal

[copper hedge]

karmelita time

[pale ingot]

If I have to pay half my life savings just for a bench, it’s personal

[copper hedge]

caramel lite

[smoky bridge]

Nah, The Knight is basically personally involved in the history of Hallownest.

[inland sparrow]

epic

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[rocky jolt]

half my life?

[smoky bridge]

It's not Hornet's kingdom tho. She's not as embedded in the world.

[pale ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[smoky bridge]

So the story is far less personal.

[copper hedge]

15 rosaries = 5 rosaries x 3
3?
half life 3 confirmed

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-freeman-ligting-bolts-laser-bolts-gif-9287385439383635726

[smoky bridge]

Mrp?

[light swan]

gurr the outcast is the best character

[inland sparrow]

I god I hope we dont aruge about what is better ss or hk we did this shit like 20 mins ago

[smoky bridge]

I'm not arguing anything I'm just curious why people think the story is a mess :v

[copper hedge]

how about...
which character would look funny when bald

this includes removing their horns too

lets include hollow knight characters because why not

[light swan]

its a mess because its not perfect

[smoky bridge]

Lace. Black orb head. Shiny.

[knotty vapor]

Nyleth would look horrifying without the mask

still, would

[fringe trout]

HOLY SHIT CHAT
doug doug uploaded a silksong video

[smoky bridge]

Needs to be made more round...

[copper hedge]

uhhhh sure mate...

[smoky bridge]

She needs to be a the pool 8 ball.

[copper hedge]

lmao

[smoky bridge]

Nyleth is pretty...

[inland sparrow]

✅

[still osprey]

I think everyone that hasn't fought Gurr in a while should go fight him right now I promise you the fight is a lot better than you remember

[copper hedge]

soon

[smoky bridge]

12th Architect relationship with Hornet is really funny.

[copper hedge]

i havent tried the new patch gurr fight

[smoky bridge]

"Ma'am I am contractually obligated to make stuff for you"

[rocky jolt]

i wanna be a trapper build like gurr

[light swan]

khann is like gurr but good

[smoky bridge]

Customer service Architect.

[still osprey]

Fuck I gotta grind like 3k rosaries to buy a bunch of tools from shops that I'm never gonna use for this 100% playthrough 🥹

[copper hedge]

Hornet and her Weaver lineage priviledges

[smoky bridge]

Do Deliveries.

[still osprey]

That's slow

[smoky bridge]

Pilgrim's rest and Bone bottom are the fastest.

[still osprey]

And also I've entered Act 3

[silk monolith]

js kill every bug in town

[light swan]

its ok practice tech on grand reeds

[copper hedge]

i have like 2.5k rosaries and i have not idea how i got it lmao

[light swan]

free ez money

[copper hedge]

did i farm too much rosaries

[light swan]

i had a blast playing around with grand reeds yesterday

[smoky bridge]

Oh, yeah then it's slow as hell, since it removes both Bone Bottom and Pilgrim's rest.

[silk monolith]

not enough

[still osprey]

I hate how 3 of 5 Grand Reeds are gone in Act 3 where am I supposed to grind money now

[copper hedge]

ight. time to do deliveries and farm grand reeds

in fucking act 3

[smoky bridge]

Bine bottom is the fastest.

That's why you should grind before act 3.

[silk monolith]

you gotta get all the rosaries

[copper hedge]

milk them dry

[still osprey]

Actually there's a decent spot near High Halls entrance there's like 3 enemies that drop around 60 rosaries

[light swan]

collection of random grand reed stuff i did yesterday

[copper hedge]

also theres a crawbell installed so thats cool

[smoky bridge]

The other option is to just... Do the craw side quest and let the craws pay you rent.

[copper hedge]

hornet's personal bitcoin miner

[smoky bridge]

Tho that's slow.

[still osprey]

I lowkey forgot Crawbell exists

[silk monolith]

exploiting underworks like the piece of shit you are

[smoky bridge]

It's still really funny that Hornet is basically running a craw teenager BnB

[copper hedge]

it still helps. if you travel alot, it not much of a problem

[light swan]

@still osprey practice random shit while passively gaining a lot of rosaries

[smoky bridge]

I know it's more like. Tribute, but still.

[copper hedge]

hornet should install more Crawbells.

[silk monolith]

is it craws that are leaving all the rosaries? I thought it was good folk of pharloom thanking hornet for helping

[light swan]

whered my message go

[still osprey]

Nah its Craws

[copper hedge]

i think it states that its the craws

its in the description of the item

[light swan]

best shaman build

[silk monolith]

damn that's a shame

[shy spoke]

Craws because you hear them crowing when hornet collects the goods

[still osprey]

God, shaman bind is so slow

I forgot how slow it is

[rocky jolt]

https://x.com/i/status/2031029448586269044

Jessica (@images_i_hate2)

This game was such vibeslop compared to silksong

X · Mar 9, 2026, 3:28 PM

[light swan]

its as slow as other crests isnt it

[still osprey]

It looks slower to me

[strange knot]

New 100% wr tRavage the goat

[still osprey]

But maybe I'm too used to injector band or smth

[rocky jolt]

hold on guys i think jessica is right?

[light swan]

every bind looks crazy slow after coming from beast or witch

[copper hedge]

"my- my rosaries... and shell shards!"
"man, i have to farm more of these again."

[knotty vapor]

lets be honest here, if GMS had proper legs, there'd be more people thirsting after her.

[shy spoke]

XDD

[inland sparrow]

people be fucking putting slop Infront of everything now

[silk monolith]

im already thirsting ion need legs

[static arch]

Yall.. I’m running out of things to do god help me
I’ve upgraded everything in my bellhome, have the max amount of rosaries and bundles I can get, all I need to do is get the sprint and flea mementos, I’ve got all the collectible items for that desk thing, got every relic
And I even did every delivery quest

[inland sparrow]

same🥹 ✌️

[light swan]

go get the mementos

[silk monolith]

sprint one easy asl i did that shit with beast

[static arch]

[knotty vapor]

imagine if Pure Vessel gets added into Silksong and he naturally does 3 masks of damage.

[copper hedge]

no please... no more

[inland sparrow]

more

more

[silk monolith]

why would pure vessel aggro at hornet

[light swan]

do you guys like my grills

[silk monolith]

is he stupid

[copper hedge]

yeah why

[inland sparrow]

yes

[static arch]

I honestly wish there was a shakra type of boss for act 3 (I know we have lost lace but the trek is awful)

[strange knot]

4:43:25 is final time

[light swan]

whats a shakra type

[copper hedge]

what if Hornet wields a flame thrower

[static arch]

A boss close to a bellway that u can spar with

[silk monolith]

wait i thought they cracked sub 4.30

[strange knot]

No they got sub 5 only last wr

[silk monolith]

oh wait no that's true ending and its not 4.30 more sub 2.30

[knotty vapor]

GMS contact damage mod when

[light swan]

ah

shikra

[unkempt steeple]

I just realized, shaman's bind sucks becuse if you bind you're wasting like two or three silk skills

[silk monolith]

my bad lmao i thought true ending and 100% were the same thing

[light swan]

shaman bind always sucked

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[light swan]

i like descending dark tho

[strange knot]

You get like 20% in TE
Your good tho

[light swan]

injector bands warding bell claw mirrors

[unkempt steeple]

Silk skills vs hk spells

[strange knot]

Silk skills imo

[unkempt steeple]

I much prefer silk skills, barely used spells in hk

[copper hedge]

Sherma as shakra type boss
He finally reveals his true nature: ||Pablo||

[slender juniper]

Modding hk for the first time which mods should I try

[unkempt steeple]

There's this mod called silksong, it makes the game way better but you have to pay for it

[silk monolith]

billion primal aspid path of pain

[strange knot]

Rando

[copper hedge]

oh my god that mod lmao

[slender juniper]

Im waiting for the spring sale so I can buy silksong again on steam just to speedrun and mod

[copper hedge]

also theres architect mod for hk

[slender juniper]

Practice without the savestate mod is kinda ass

[silk monolith]

any radiance

[slender juniper]

[unkempt steeple]

I should try speedrunning one day it doesn't aound that bad after I've become to acustomed to the map and hunter

[copper hedge]

is the "1 out of 1000 chance Withered Foxy jumpscares you" mod also available for HK

[strange knot]

That mod is so funny

I only played it with sk tho

[copper hedge]

its now a tradition for game modding for some reason lmao

[knotty vapor]

the worst runback in HK is the Traitor Lord

[static arch]

I just beat the sprint memento challenge second try I am shockingly surprised at myself

[inland sparrow]

That was bad?

[smoky bridge]

I think Traitor lord just happens to be really easy.

[neat forge]

Hi

[static arch]

I need some tips for beating Seth’s time people 😔

[smoky bridge]

I rember when people complained about Last Judge runback.

[knotty vapor]

no godhome buffs 💔

[inland sparrow]

It was not even that bad

[smoky bridge]

Sseth the bossfight or the mini game scores?

[inland sparrow]

neither is goal

[unkempt steeple]

I never did it I used dreamgate as soon as I first got to it

[knotty vapor]

we didn't see Traitor Lord spin like Karmelita does

[static arch]

Mini game

[smoky bridge]

Oh, then I dunno. Never bothered with it :v

[unkempt steeple]

Use shaman

[smoky bridge]

Flea dodge I have a tip for, just stop using the platforms.

[light swan]

interesting

[smoky bridge]

It's the only one I did, cause I like flea dodge.

[static arch]

[knotty vapor]

heres to a Fourth Chorus Needolin Dream fight

[unkempt steeple]

Also try pogoing and clawlining the fleas

[smoky bridge]

Pogoing the fleas ends up safer.

[unkempt steeple]

No need for it to be a dream, we see a bunch of choruses in underworks we can just get access to a secret room with a stronger one

[smoky bridge]

Purely because the main thing that kills you is once you get knocked off the platform, you're boned. If you get hit while pogoing above, you can save yourself by retreating to the platform. Gives you more room for error.

[copper hedge]

tips for flea dodge: only jump when needed, and you can dodge the fleas going downward by simply hanging by the edge of a platform rather than staying in the middle kf it

[knotty vapor]

Voided Third Chorus that has 2 additional void attacks

[static arch]

So basically flea bounce the sequel

[smoky bridge]

I love how we just gave exactly the opposite advice.

:v

[copper hedge]

i never really bothered pogoing over fleas unless i need to.

[static arch]

I have no idea why I’m struggling with the shaman pogo so much I’m literally a hunter crest main

[unkempt steeple]

I only started doing that in the later numbers

[copper hedge]

clawline helps in case u got knocked out

[unkempt steeple]

Also again SHAMAN, shaman is the best crest for all minigames imo

[copper hedge]

i somehow just knew where it would hit, if it could hit me, and how i can dodge it

[smoky bridge]

I used reaper for flea bounce.

[unkempt steeple]

For flea bounce ig you can use any

[copper hedge]

lace just felt like it

[knotty vapor]

Flea Juggle is the Devil's Game bro 😭

[inland sparrow]

same

[unkempt steeple]

Oh wait nvm

[smoky bridge]

For a second I thought someone was recording dying on Lace 9 times

[unkempt steeple]

Reaper for bounce is crazy😭 thought you mean't juggle

[smoky bridge]

Do it. Beast flea bounce.

[copper hedge]

im doing flea bounce with hunter. so far i got 54

[inland sparrow]

I got 99

[unkempt steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-14514797702729285380

[smoky bridge]

Reaper for juggle is deranged.

[knotty vapor]

??
I First Tried' it with reaper, whats wrong with it?

[light swan]

this wasnt as fun as doing it with architect

[copper hedge]

damn. on hunter as well?

[unkempt steeple]

Isn't the pogo slow

[light swan]

but beast bounce is realy fun

[static arch]

SURELY that’s tas

[smoky bridge]

... Wait I haven't done flea games so long I forgot it's easier.

[unkempt steeple]

Also with shaman you don't even need to be close to the fleas to pogo

[light swan]

?? thats me playing

[strange knot]

@light swan

[inland sparrow]

yeah

[knotty vapor]

...when you hold it 😭

[smoky bridge]

I remembered it as fleas popping up from below, which would be way harder :v

[static arch]

I applaud that insane ass skill then

[knotty vapor]

SAME GOES WITH ARCHITECT, IF YOU HOLD IT, ITS SLOW

[strange knot]

Ye shaman is crazy for flea bounce I got like 300 with it

[light swan]

you cant charge reaper pogo wdym hold

[smoky bridge]

People sleep on beast pogo and architect pogo.

[copper hedge]

i might not reach 99, but i will beat seth's score. thanks for a lil motivation there

i just wish my nerves wont ruin it aughhh

[knotty vapor]

no, when you hold pogo
its slow

[light swan]

architect pogo is one of the coolest pogos

[light swan]

even when you tap it its the same length

[smoky bridge]

It's delayed but the area is massive, and also lingers

[strange knot]

Seth ain’t beating this one

[robust star]

First hello. And how can I move seth to fleetopia

[copper hedge]

keep visiting him

[knotty vapor]

huh guess the speed got buffed during the updates, because when I first played with keyboard, it ain't this fast

[fossil socket]

Hewwo phantom

[inland sparrow]

I believe in you

[light swan]

the speed has never been changed

[robust star]

Thanks

[light swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u72_o4EGfvY who is this goat

[smoky bridge]

Which crest arenyou talking about?

[copper hedge]

where did u visit him recently

[static arch]

I got to 60 and fell 😔

[knotty vapor]

reaper

[fossil socket]

illusion ive seen that guy before

[strange knot]

I really wonder who that is, that’s definitely not @light swan they are terrible at the game

[knotty vapor]

I know reaper got faster.
stop gaslighting me ya'll 😭

[smoky bridge]

It has about the same delay as beast.

[fossil socket]

maybe not must be an illusion ig

[light swan]

youre gaslighting yourself

[smoky bridge]

But you cannot "hold" reaper pogo.

That's exclusively architect.

[robust star]

Gant gate. Shellwoods. Shrine(nileth)
And somewhere Else i dont remember

[copper hedge]

i think u meant Greymoor first, then Grand Gate

[light swan]

duude the save at 1:25 is still crazy

[robust star]

Yeah

[copper hedge]

im still thinking of that third place that you visit him again

holdon

[robust star]

It was graymoor

[light swan]

theres another place in shellwood

[robust star]

Two places?

[light swan]

in a big flower room with a pollip heart at the top

[robust star]

Okay

[light swan]

nyleth, greymoor, shellwood, grandgate, fleatopia

[robust star]

Sry guys already have to go and jes These 3

[copper hedge]

yea

[robust star]

4

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-cat-zhuangzhuang-zhuang-zhuang-cat-cute-cat-cat-apple-fall-gif-2586270517922948350

[copper hedge]

i like how the pre-release riddle gif with Seth's fight shows a hunter 1 crest build with straight pin only lol

[civic snow]

[copper hedge]

and not in act 3 too (ik that it can be accessed act 2 too before the patch)

[smoky bridge]

Materium no upgrades Bellhome is deeply funny to me

College bachelor living arrangement lookin ass

[strange knot]

Hornet gambled everything for materium entries and now broke

[stone trail]

Playing Silksong again after a while, about to fight ||phantom||

[inland sparrow]

good luck

shes pretty easy

[lean forum]

Guys the hallowed gauntlet is destroying me

[timid sky]

Girl got summoned

[smoky bridge]

I still consistently choke on Phantom for some reason.

[inland sparrow]

How?

[smoky bridge]

She's one of the harder Beast crest wise.

Compared to last judge who is literally free.

[stone trail]

the issue is that I'm bad

[smoky bridge]

Or they, I guess.

[stone trail]

My first playthrough was miserable because I'm horrendous lol

[inland sparrow]

Its okay

[civic snow]

Me reading this being ashamed that i died to phantom on my steel soul run:

I got a lil too confident

[smoky bridge]

Especially the steam pillar teleport back to back eats into your fury timer pretty significantly.

[civic snow]

And wanted to parry the fucking mist attack with wanderer 🥀

[inland sparrow]

we all have different skill levels

[smoky bridge]

Generally she's just hard to whale on.

[inland sparrow]

idiot

[smoky bridge]

Judge is big and slow moving, you can just hit her a lot, and burst her down.

Phantom keeps moving really fast, and is hard to keep up with safely.

[civic snow]

I know

[smoky bridge]

But then again all my boss rankings are based on Beast crest, so I'm gonna find all bosses with smaller hit windows harder.

Judge gives you ten business hours to dedicate to smacking her. Phantom gives you like three hits, before you have to start paying attention again.

[stone trail]

My first playthrough I just loved running witch

[smoky bridge]

And I hate laying attention

[strange knot]

Witch is goated

[stone trail]

I love the heal bomb

[timid sky]

Just use fractured mask

[smoky bridge]

Witch is fun for any summoner bosses.

[civic snow]

I did, still died

[strange knot]

Witch is fun for any bosses

[smoky bridge]

Also, you get no blue crest slots when on beast...

[stone trail]

Once I beat phantom I'll probably go get wanderer

[smoky bridge]

So that eliminates some safety nets and easy cheese.

Act 1 full vesticrest is literally impossible. Which is a shame.

I thought it is not, but you just don't have enough crests.

[inland sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[strange knot]

You can get 4 iirc?

[inland sparrow]

i love cats

[strange knot]

Cats > everything else

[smoky bridge]

Hunter slots do not count for Eva

You're like. One slot short of full vesticrest, unless I am counting them wrong.

[timid sky]

Yes

7(r)+7(wd)+7(b)

5 for beast

Why did i type 7

19

[smoky bridge]

Then two. I think full vesticrest is 21? But I might just be wrong and stupid.

[inland sparrow]

your cool you know that right?

[timid sky]

It's 20 i think

[smoky bridge]

It is 20.

One short.
If only beast hadn't the literal worst slot count.

[smoky bridge]

Not even rats?

[strange knot]

Doesn’t wanderer have 6 slots

[smoky bridge]

No, 7

Of that I am sure.

[strange knot]

I forgor silk skill

[smoky bridge]

The skill slot counts, yeah

[minor sparrow]

Never in my life do I need to use 4 yellows

[strange knot]

True

[light swan]

a rat... in the vessel...

[still osprey]

The world if Wanderer had anything that's not a 3rd yellow tool slot

[inland sparrow]

i only need 1 yellow

[stone trail]

3rd try phantom let's go

[strange knot]

And that’s for anklets ofc

[inland sparrow]

good job

[inland sparrow]

no

[smoky bridge]

Anklets, Scuttlebrace, Weighted Belt, Dice :v

[timid sky]

Why scuttlebrace

[smoky bridge]

If you hate whimsy and fun, you could swap Scuttlebrace for like. Magnetite brooch

[strange knot]

Scuttlebrace nerfs you

[stone trail]

I ended up only ever going for one attack per punish window lol

[smoky bridge]

I like it.

[timid sky]

Or ascendant's grip

[smoky bridge]

It's fun to use.

[strange knot]

I NEED my down dash

[minor sparrow]

It's pretty funny

[timid sky]

Or barbed bracelet if you're good

[smoky bridge]

Scuttlebrace is surprisingly good for rasher quest.

[minor sparrow]

Yeah I was surprised you didn't say ascendant grip

[strange knot]

That kinda makes sense

[light swan]

do i need cling grip to use sbrace

[smoky bridge]

It outright prevents wall bumps, and lets you interrupt hard falls much faster and safer than trying to float it.