sk-discussion

[steep jolt]

i dont have full silk things idk why it shows like that

[vivid horizon]

It js does that man

[hushed charm]

What is your best speedrun time

[glacial bane]

I thought for ts

[slender juniper]

Rn 2:15 but im training for sub 2 I got to dancers in 51 mins

(Dancers in 51 minutes)

Not act 2

[glacial bane]

Thread storm*

[slender juniper]

Why

[hushed charm]

Oh

[glacial bane]

Craw arena took me 15 hrs im not kidding

[hushed charm]

So like you 1st try every boss?

[vivid horizon]

HOWWWW

I thought I took long man

[hushed charm]

Me prob a full day

[glacial bane]

I was super bad

[vivid horizon]

I took like 7 tries man

annoying primal aspid parallel man

[balmy wraith]

craw arena took me like 20 tries first time

second playthrough it took me 2

[slender juniper]

Not every boss theres a chance I might die at trobbio or high halls gauntlet otherwise pretty good

I run saw circlet btw

[glacial bane]

Moss mother 1 in 30 tries

[rocky jolt]

the first hunters march gauntlet is satan reincarnated

[hushed charm]

Where ||shakra help||?

[glacial bane]

Not as bad as craw arena

[slender juniper]

Only if you enter before greymoor

[unkempt steeple]

Insane to go there before lace on my first playthrough

[vivid horizon]

which one was that

Oh yh

What's the important enemies there

[balmy wraith]

hardest gauntlet for me on my first playthrough was craw gaultlet

[rocky jolt]

you find the hunters march entrance before lace in progression brother

[analog mist]

imagine Hornet gets scammed like the knight did

[hushed charm]

Because of those 2 dih Heads on last phase?

[unkempt steeple]

Yes but I doubt most people enter before lace bc of the guard

[small moss]

that's easy tho

[analog mist]

and she straight up tracks the unfortunate bug down

[balmy wraith]

kinda

[rocky jolt]

skarrgard is kinda like mawlek if you think about it

[balmy wraith]

to be fair it was my first playthrough

[rocky jolt]

brooding

[slender juniper]

The knight beats mellibelle up...hornet would skin her alive

[balmy wraith]

second playthrough i wondered how i ever found it hard

[small moss]

oh well, it's reasonable

[unkempt steeple]

Wrong reply

[hushed charm]

I legit did my craw gaulet after getting needle upgrade lol like halfway act 2

[unkempt steeple]

She wishes death on a whole species for smelling bad

She would DESTROY scammers

[slender juniper]

As you should its better that way

[hushed charm]

Halfway act 2

[small moss]

||crack them necks|| boyy

[hushed charm]

Cuz i needed thread storm

[hushed charm]

Ril

[balmy wraith]

it ended up being the first thing i went to in greymoor cuz i always go the way that is optional first in all metroidvanias

[unkempt steeple]

Hornet breaks the laws of biology and breaks a neck with no bones

[balmy wraith]

am a rebel

[slender juniper]

Skipping craw gauntlet with silk soar in act 3

[hushed charm]

I never got kidnapped by those and just finished the game

[hushed charm]

[balmy wraith]

i had to search up slab location

[small moss]

you missed out on much

[hushed charm]

Can I still get kidnapped?

[balmy wraith]

if you in act 3 prob not

[hushed charm]

Ik what happens tho

[small moss]

not in act 3

[hushed charm]

Awww

[balmy wraith]

but theres a way to get there without getting kidnaped

[hushed charm]

🙁

[balmy wraith]

but no crestlesshornet

[slender juniper]

No. Next playthroughter you can do like beast only run or sum

[hushed charm]

The slab right

[small moss]

censor buddy

[balmy wraith]

yer

[lusty grove]

what's the discourse this time?

[hushed charm]

She is a stick bro

[balmy wraith]

wait thats worse

[unkempt steeple]

Should trobbio get a third rematch

[still osprey]

I think Trobbio should get 3 more rematches at least

[small moss]

no like, you should censor the word to not be spoiler

[balmy wraith]

overjoyed trobbio

[hushed charm]

Oh

[small moss]

rainbow trobbio

[slender juniper]

This is the spoiler channel

[hushed charm]

Lost trobbio

[small moss]

i got spoiled so much in my silksong first playthrough

i regretted opening dc

😭

[balmy wraith]

dont go to the discussion channels without having completed the game first

[hushed charm]

Imagine how lost trobbio would fight

[slender juniper]

#sk-help

[balmy wraith]

thats why i refuse to join the ori and nine sols server

[unkempt steeple]

I wish trobbio got stuff to do outside his battle, we should put him in songclave to entertein the pilgrims

[slender juniper]

Spoiler feee alternative

[tight viper]

I avoided this place like the plague when the Silksong release date was announced

[glacial bane]

Ai voidslop

[tight viper]

Didn’t even watch the trailers or anything, I wanted a completely blind experience

[hushed charm]

Xd

[small moss]

432 skill pattern

[slender juniper]

Reminder that longpin does the same amount of damage as straight pin and has less capacity

[hushed charm]

The arena would be brighter than the sun

[unkempt steeple]

Absolute trobbio

[tight viper]

I did get the Moss Mother spoiled for me, though. Was expecting it to be something related to the endgame, but instead it was the tutorial boss, which was a relief

[hushed charm]

Any trobbio

[unkempt steeple]

And has a worse throw

[tight viper]

All it does is kill rhinos and maybe Gron

[unkempt steeple]

And the shell piercing isn't really that useful

[celest cobalt]

Sorry a bit off topic but its my dogs birthday today. She is the left one closest to the camera

[slender juniper]

She was litteraly shown in 2019

[hushed charm]

Happy' birthday to yo dawg

[tight viper]

Adorable dog

[hushed charm]

May i ask what is the dawg name?

[tight viper]

I didn’t watch a single trailer or anything related to Silksong content

[celest cobalt]

Moira

[small moss]

who even uses longpin bro, i only used it for the meat thingy quest

[hushed charm]

Oo

[celest cobalt]

She turned 5 today

[tight viper]

Only learned about the Moss Mother existing because of a Reddit post or something

[hushed charm]

And the right one?

[balmy wraith]

i used it

[small moss]

hbd moiraa

[celest cobalt]

Daisy

[balmy wraith]

it was amazing

[hushed charm]

Both girls?

[slender juniper]

She was a demo boss back in 2019

[small moss]

stay 20 feet away from me

[tight viper]

I know that now, yeah

[small moss]

[celest cobalt]

Yes, same mother 2 litters apart

[tight viper]

Feel kinda dumb that I thought she was some major spoiler

[slender juniper]

[candid glacier]

i just beat cursed GMS

[slender juniper]

THEY TURNED MY FUCKING BUGS GAY

[balmy wraith]

do i play hollow knight, silksong, ori, or nine sols rn

[hushed charm]

Nice

[candid glacier]

and somehow only took 3 masks of damage

[slender juniper]

Idk spin a wheel

[balmy wraith]

good idea

[hushed charm]

Both good dawgs

Keep em safe

[candid glacier]

i hit the spikes once and got slashed once

[balmy wraith]

it landed on hollow knight

[hushed charm]

Hahhhhah

[glacial bane]

I gave up on it so congrats!!!!!!!

[celest cobalt]

yes

[hushed charm]

How bad is cursed gms

[balmy wraith]

prob not that bad

[celest cobalt]

bad enough to be cursed

[candid glacier]

not that bad

[balmy wraith]

gms alone is pretty easy

[hushed charm]

All dodging shit

[balmy wraith]

i could beat her silkless and songless

[glacial bane]

That bad

[crude geyser]

Why isnt garmond fighting me I unlocked the area where he would challenge me

[candid glacier]

abuse clawline and down attack

[tight viper]

Revisit the room after benching

[glacial bane]

I tried

[candid glacier]

down attack only if you think you can get away with it but usually it’s pretty risky

[tight viper]

Might have to encounter him in a random room in the Citadel first though

[hushed charm]

I could beat her while silking my song

[crude geyser]

I did and he is still in the sanctuary

[unkempt steeple]

No defender's crest, what's the point of playing silksong

[crude geyser]

^

[candid glacier]

take your time and dodge

[glacial bane]

Imagine ai voidslop gms labubu

[tight viper]

Oh wait he’s in Songclave?

[unkempt steeple]

Ngl I kinda hate how plasmification is a plasmium phial exclusive thing when even in hk, hiveblood wasn't that good

[balmy wraith]

gms is ai

[tight viper]

How many melodies have you gotten so far, and which ones have you gotten

[glacial bane]

As a bosss

[balmy wraith]

we need wet crest

[candid glacier]

there’s nothing i get out of the curse apart from the ending and witch crest right

[balmy wraith]

achievement

[glacial bane]

And the ost would be called gms ai slop phonk remix

[analog mist]

oh yeah hornet can literally track people down so she'll find her in an instant

[candid glacier]

twisted child? if so that’s what i meant with ending

[analog mist]

plus she's not a silent protagonist

[balmy wraith]

so she would curse her out?

[analog mist]

likely!

[hushed charm]

You wanna see an image generated by ai

[analog mist]

angry hornet is scary :(

[balmy wraith]

why do you get flashbanged whenver you get hit while binding

[glacial bane]

After the crest return to greyroot in shellwood and smack him to pieces

[glacial bane]

Yes

[hushed charm]

Dms then

[balmy wraith]

its so over

[candid glacier]

where do i go to get rid of the curse

[glacial bane]

Wisp thicket bell room

[hushed charm]

@glacial bane check dms

[candid glacier]

do i need rosaries

[tight viper]

A few, 160 or so

[candid glacier]

im at 345 so i should be chilling

[tight viper]

Yeah you’ll be fine then

[candid glacier]

omg im so not used to compassless navigation

[last marten]

Can sm1 rate my build in #sk-help

[fiery burrow]

Looks solid

Scuttlebrace isn't that useful though imo

[last marten]

Yea idrk what else to put tho

[fiery burrow]

Yeah true yellow tools don't really matter a whole lot

[last marten]

Compass aint useful ether for me rn

Cause Im tryna do the Coral Tower

Do the magnetic dice actually do anything? Or is it just a gag item?

[fiery burrow]

Small chance to block a hit

[last marten]

Oh

[tight viper]

2% yeah

[last marten]

Why not

[tight viper]

Or wait no, that’s crit chance lol

[raw pawn]

I wonder if he still appears in his other locations if you don't free him

[last marten]

Not like Compass is helping me

[tight viper]

Dice chance builds up with each hit you take, also improves wanderer crit chance by .2%

[candid glacier]

dice is probably the second best yellow tool next to silkspeed anklets

[tight viper]

Eh, I think Weighted Belt’s the best of them

[last marten]

Silk anklets look kinda ss to me ngl

[tight viper]

Shell Satchel is also a contender

[last marten]

Well for exploring it's probably nice

[tight viper]

He does

[last marten]

But in combat it's not doing much for u

[tight viper]

They’re quite solid, good for covering ground against quicker bosses and wide gauntlets

Best paired with the Weavelight

[last marten]

Oh that makes sense

Should I change my tool?

[earnest drift]

second best behind barbed bracelet

[tight viper]

I completely forgot that one tbh

[last marten]

Barbed braclet is only good assuming you are a goated plyer

Which Im not

So Im not using it

[lusty grove]

I like how there's no meta in Silksong

[inland edge]

Who use charms in 2026?

[raw pawn]

oh how does he get out?

[lusty grove]

the Knight

[inland edge]

My knight does not

[steep jolt]

i heard double jump was on a mountain am i in the correct place

[shrewd sphinx]

Wrong mountain

Have you been to the slab?

[lusty grove]

real answer: he's a key NPC in Act 3 and the only way to get certain items
lore-accurate answer: probably one of the Snitchflies got him out

[lusty grove]

how did you even get there

[lean pendant]

Fun Fact: If you ate 40,000 bananas, you would die from radiation poisoning.

[lusty grove]

I'm pretty sure you'd die way before that

[earnest drift]

no one I hope

tools >>>>>>

[candid glacier]

before you die from the radiation, you’d be dead from your stomach rupturing

[inland edge]

Tools are for people who use tools in 2026

And Iam not

[lusty grove]

kinda weird how the Snitchflies are Haunted

[steep jolt]

the amount of effort team cherry put into a mountain that almost nobody will ever see

[lusty grove]

and the Craw Jurors, and the Stilkin... and Widow

[steep jolt]

yea you can also eat like a pound of plutonium

[strange knot]

If you eat 40000 bananas ofc you would fucking die

[lusty grove]

does it transition to any room?

[steep jolt]

just does a hazard respawn if you fall far enough

[earnest drift]

widow is haunted????

[steep jolt]

uh yeah no shit

[inland edge]

If I ate 40k bananas then I will consider as the person who ate 40k bananas it’s worth it

[lean pendant]

Fun Fact: If you ate 200 apple seeds, you would die from cyanide poisoning.

[strange knot]

Where’s that I forgor

[lusty grove]

makes me think TC just forgot to take away the "show threads" thing from those enemies

[steep jolt]

its outside of bounds in sands of karak

[earnest drift]

no it makes sense for the stilkin and craws

[strange knot]

Wait you can get there?

[earnest drift]

the silk has gotten into the air, the water, the food chain, everywhere

[lusty grove]

if you use the Needolin against her (which is impossible on a regular run), she shows the silk threads like the Haunted enemies

[steep jolt]

whats her needolin dialogue

[strange knot]

I don’t think she has one

[shrewd sphinx]

Not sure if that is supposed to be cannon tbh

[earnest drift]

I assumed that weavers were immune to the haunting and widow just stayed loyal to gms

[steep jolt]

honey, theres h2o in the oceans!

[lusty grove]

it's weird for the Craws cuz they're still conscious, don't get black-threaded, and are aware of the Haunting

[earnest drift]

unless she willingly took in the haunting to serve gms

[lusty grove]

also, it's weird that the Burning Bugs are Haunted

[earnest drift]

I’m pretty sure craws do get void threaded

[steep jolt]

my favorite weaver is whichever one the weavenest in bilewater is named after

[tight viper]

He just does, offscreen. Same as he does in the Slab

[still osprey]

I don't think Widow is haunted I think she's just insane

[earnest drift]

are you sure

[steep jolt]

classic team cherry adding lines for things that shouldnt be possible

[strange knot]

They do but not all of em

[tight viper]

Play the needolin near ‘em

You’ll see strands of silk reaching up

[earnest drift]

I can’t they all burnt themselves

[lusty grove]

silk threads indicate Haunted status

[tight viper]

Before killing FotF

[earnest drift]

that’s odd I thought the burning bugs burnt the silk within them

apparently not

[steep jolt]

is father of the flame the only father in either of the games (i mean with father in their name)

[earnest drift]

crawfather

[steep jolt]

grand father thread

[tight viper]

I imagine they must be in a similar position to the Skarr, being more independent than most haunted bugs

[steep jolt]

no the fire guys are just cookoo

holy shit the fire guys are like the minions

[tight viper]

Probably the same case with Groal and the Stilkin

[earnest drift]

haunted bugs retain their previous behaviour, attitude and tasks

[lusty grove]

the Jurors don't

[steep jolt]

i just realized the craws in act 3 wear the hats from sinners road

[lusty grove]

yeah but their whole lore is that they burn Silk so it's weird that they'd have it

[lean pendant]

What card game would Hornet favor at the casino?

[tight viper]

Iirc you can find a regular squatcraw and a tall craw in the silk spool room near the ceiling, I know those guys can be black-threaded

[lusty grove]

she'd play dice

[lean pendant]

Yahtzee?

[lusty grove]

they're always black-threaded
but the Jurors are never black-threaded

[tight viper]

Right, yeah

[steep jolt]

no its not the cauldron and bottom part of whiteward burn silk and greymoor catches it

well they burn bodies that contain silk

[lusty grove]

no I mean the Burning Bugs burn Silk cuz of the ritual and stuff

well, in a way, they do burn the Silk in their own bodies, they just die in the process

[steep jolt]

i thought they were juust mentally insane

[crude geyser]

Chat do I need to be in act 3 for the coral tower to be accessible ? I mean when you use your song

[lusty grove]

they're religious fanatics, but so is everyone else in this damn game

[lusty grove]

yes

[crude geyser]

Okay, bc I’m soon going to enter it and I want to make sure I don’t want to soft lock anything

What is blocked in act 3 ?

[steep jolt]

no if you shit yourself hard enough you can blast off to the top of coral tower using your shit

[analog mist]

You need the elegy of the deep

[lusty grove]

I mean, if you somehow find a way to enter the Shaman room in act 2, it'd be possible

act 2 Abyss is already possible

[analog mist]

how

what?

[lusty grove]

no-clip

[analog mist]

pfft

[steep jolt]

you can keep karmelita alive in suffering if you get the green princes heart instead of hers

[lusty grove]

or you can kill her in act 2 for no reason

if you get to the Shaman room

which is, for now, impossible

[shrewd sphinx]

Old age will probably claim her soon anyway

[steep jolt]

im 99% sure this is impossible

[lusty grove]

but when it becomes possible, it will be possible to fight Lost Lace before Lace 2

[crude geyser]

Btw how do I get garmond to fight me ?

[steep jolt]

uncarmelita

[steep jolt]

get a job application

then he will fight you irl

[lusty grove]

speak to him once, then open the shortcut to Vaults

but he'll stop asking for a duel once you get the Threefold Melody

and the Fine Pins wish

[chilly mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/l-death-note-tenna-kick-l-death-note-gif-17497012740248711584

even sk discu is dead

[fiery rune]

would you say the story / lore of silksong is great or just kept mystical through incomprehensive dialogue / text?

[lusty grove]

it's great

could be better, but it's great

the dialogue is easy to understand, the lore is not that complex but still fun

[tribal scroll]

Definitely easier to understand than HK for sure imo

[crude geyser]

Ah

[fiery rune]

I must say I have problems with comprehending big parts of it, but that can be a me problem I guess

[crude geyser]

Well I had it before I knew I could duel him

[tribal scroll]

I missed both garmond and Shakra on my first playthrough, this second save file is my "do everything and get every interaction" save file. First save file is my blind playthrough

[lusty grove]

oh I can't say that

[tight viper]

Iirc if you get the Conductors Melody alongside any other second melody, he moves to Songclave

If you get Vault and Architect Melody but not Conductor, he’s still available to fight

[lusty grove]

Silksong main lore: woman turned spiders into demigods, demigods put woman to sleep, demigods made religion, bugs sang to help religion, bugs ate silk, woman woke up, bugs died
smallest Hollow Knight area lore:

[twilit lichen]

Hey guys so my dad said I can only get silksong next week(cuz exams) I'm curious so il pirate it for now and buy it later,can I transfer my data from here to there

[tight viper]

Must’ve been mixing him up with Shakra and her quest/assistance prereqs, my bad

[twilit lichen]

?

[tight viper]

No clue, probably not but idk

Probably best to just wait until you can get it legit

It’s only a week, after all

[tribal scroll]

I feel like such a bandwagon fan, I played HK years ago, dropped it then came back last year to fully play it... maybe i should have waited 7 years to play silksong too

[versed pollen]

It's challenging to say because there's no way to determine how a pirated version saves files

[twilit lichen]

Fair ig I have exams anyway

[versed pollen]

It could use the same locations it could use some other location we don't know and we can't tell

[tight viper]

I only got HK in 2022 and that wait still felt like forever for me, can’t imagine what 7 years would feel like

[raw pawn]

lmao widow can be your 3rd/2nd boss in the run

[tight viper]

And I had access to Pale Court and well-developed randomizers, too

Those weren’t around back then in 2018 and whatnot

[raw pawn]

I only have swift step and cling grip rn

[lusty grove]

it can be your first

I mean, second

[raw pawn]

and I am pretty sure you can go to shellwood without swift step

[lusty grove]

Moss Mother exists

[versed pollen]

I mean you really just do whatever else with your life waiting isn't exactly an active activity

[tight viper]

It can be your first as well if you use room dupe shenanigans

[tight viper]

Well yeah, but you know what I mean

[raw pawn]

tho idk if the platforming to cling grip possible without swift step

[tight viper]

I wanted to play Silksong for only half the time they did

[tribal scroll]

I wonder how many bosses are mandatory to beat the game. I can think of MM, Widow, Cogwork dancers, Lace and then GMS?

I feel like I'm missing one

[still osprey]

Trobbio?

[tight viper]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-boss-trobbio-tormented-trobbio-gif-3458505690224110

[still osprey]

I'm pretty sure he is required for Vaultkeeper's Melody

[tribal scroll]

Yeah that's who

cuz you can skip sister splinter iirc

[still osprey]

Also like, Last Judge or Phantom to get into Act 2, no?

[raw pawn]

I think:

moss mother, widow,phantom/lj, cogwork dancers, trobbio, lace 2 and gms

[still osprey]

Or is there like some way to skip them

[tight viper]

Even if you did Act 1 Faydown to skip them, you’d still have to fight Bell Beast

So the number wouldn’t change

[raw pawn]

forgot about phantom and last judge my bad

[cloud parcel]

guys, it happened.

[verbal steeple]

it snew

[tribal scroll]

not to my knowledge

[crude geyser]

Chat are the rest of the pilgrim quest delivery infinites ?

[cloud parcel]

i finally 100% silksong.

[tight viper]

They are, yeah

[raw pawn]

Idk if you can reach gms or even act 2 without beating bell beast tho

[tight viper]

Bell Beast can be skipped by using the Wormways

[still osprey]

You can but it would be super annoying

[verbal steeple]

pretty sure u can

you'd need to do the phantom route

[crude geyser]

Alr I don’t think I can fight garmond bc he is stuck in the sanctuary with the rest, he won’t challenge me

[still osprey]

Riiight cuz Bell Beast is locking a bellshrine behind it

[cloud parcel]

btw as a reminder I started playing AFTER the sea of sorrow announcement (maybe a month and a half after) and JUST NOW got 100%. now I have permission to go insane waiting for sea of sorrow.

[still osprey]

So, Moss Mother, Widow, Phantom, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace and GMS are the bosses

7 bosses, not bad

[raw pawn]

oh lmao the residents of bellhart don't know who saved them if you killed widow before going to bellhart

[tight viper]

Phantom/Bell Beast

Unless I’m forgetting something about Act 1 faydown route

[still osprey]

right yea

[tight viper]

Don’t think there’s another boss that gets added in that though

[stable pilot]

What's going on with Brazilians randomly invading the server

[lusty grove]

Moss Mother, Widow, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace, GMS, (for act 3) Bell Beast, Last Judge, Groal, Forebrothers, and Lost Lace

[lusty grove]

Bell Beast is skippable, Phantom is not required

[lusty grove]

btw is Groal still skippable?

[tight viper]

If you go for Act 3, that’s true yeah

Wait, no

[still osprey]

Not on current patch

[tight viper]

No you would need Bell Beast to do Last Judge

[crude geyser]

Alr. I’m going to act 3, whats the thing that won’t be accessible once you enter it ?

[still osprey]

Bell Beast has a bellshrine behind it, which is required for Last Judge

[lusty grove]

ok so Groal is also required

[lusty grove]

wait why?

[tight viper]

Bellshrine

[lusty grove]

oh

[still osprey]

Buuut if Last Judge is a requirement, we can remove Phantom

[lusty grove]

so this is the full list of required bosses

[lusty grove]

we could always remove Phantom cuz they're not required

I'm only counting required bosses

[still osprey]

They are for normal ending

[lusty grove]

you can not fight them

[tight viper]

For Act 2, they’re a valid option for minimum required bosses

[lusty grove]

go through Last Judge

[lusty grove]

no they're not, cuz you can just not do them

[tight viper]

That would increase the total count by 1

[still osprey]

And, again, how would you fight Last Judge without doing Bell Beast

[lusty grove]

no it wouldn't, cuz for act 2, Last Judge is not required

neither Last Judge NOR Phantom are required for act 2 ending, cuz you can just not fight one by doing the other

[tight viper]

So you would have to fight Phantom then

I don’t think you understand what we’re saying

[lusty grove]

they're mutually exclusive bosses

[tight viper]

The total number of bosses for Act 2 is 7. Moss Mother, Widow, Phantom/Bell Beast, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2x GMS

[lusty grove]

if you can choose between doing a boss or not doing a boss, then said boss is not required

required means you HAVE to fight that boss, and there's no way (without glitches) to skip it

[tight viper]

You can do Phantom with the Mist route or Bell Beast with the Act 1 Faydown route

[lusty grove]

Last Judge (at least for act 2 ending) is an optional boss, not a required one

[still osprey]

Normal Ending: Moss Mother, Widow, Phantom, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2, GMS

True Ending: Moss Mother, Bell Beast, Widow, Last Judge, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2, Forebrothers Signis and Gron, Groal, GMS, Karmelita, Khann, Clover Dancers, Lost Lace

[tight viper]

Last judge would increase the total number by 8 because you would also have to do Bell Beast

[still osprey]

Right?

[lusty grove]

you don't require Last Judge or Phantom to beat act 2

[lusty grove]

Phantom is not required

[cloud parcel]

you can sequence break and get double jump glitchless in act 1 and go through wisp thicket to get into act 2, skipping BOTH last judge and Phantom

[lusty grove]

that's a major glitch

[orchid locust]

yeah but you can’t say that you don’t need any bosses to get to act 2 since neither lost judge or phantom is required

getting to act 2 requires one boss minimum (unless you do fay act 1 to wisp thicket)

[tight viper]

You have to beat either Last Judge or Phantom for the standard routes. If you fight Last Judge, you have to fight Bell Beast as well

[orchid locust]

there’s no glitches involved it’s just a sequence break

[lusty grove]

it does require one boss, but neither of the bosses are required by themselves

[cloud parcel]

slab and air stalling with flea brew and plasmium

[lusty grove]

they're optional bosses

[tight viper]

Act 1 faydown requires Bell Beast, which replaces Phantom for the total req. count

[lusty grove]

yes, but that doesn't mean you need to fight Phantom

Phantom is not a required boss

[tight viper]

We are talking about the minimum number of required bosses for Act 2 normal ending

[verbal steeple]

its 5% no?

[still osprey]

14 required bosses for true ending, that's double the required bosses for normal ending

[light swan]

dashless fayforn cloak

[lusty grove]

a required boss is a boss that you HAVE to fight in all playthroughs (examples include Widow, Moss Mother, and GMS)
Last Judge can be skipped, and so can Phantom

[tight viper]

That’s percentage, not bosses

[light swan]

people don’t seem to notice this but there are 2 bosses before khann

[lusty grove]

and Khann is not required

[still osprey]

Oh wait you're right fuck

[lusty grove]

you can just do Green Prince instead

[still osprey]

So just do Seth and Nyleth instead of Khann then

Karmelita, Seth, Nyleth, Damcers

So 15 bosses for True Ending

[earnest drift]

raging conchfly and?

[verbal steeple]

karm is the only boss that isn't locked behind a boss

[still osprey]

Regular conchflies

[light swan]

normal conchflies

[tight viper]

The first Conchfly

That one is angry for a reason

[still osprey]

Which boss are dancers locked behind?

[lusty grove]

if you're talking about the minimum amount of bosses to beat the game, then it makes sense to count Phantom, but Phantom is not a required boss by themself

[still osprey]

Palestag isn't required

[verbal steeple]

pale stag

[tight viper]

None

[verbal steeple]

wait pale stag isn't required?

[lusty grove]

none

[verbal steeple]

what's the purpose for beating pale stag then???

[orchid locust]

your point makes sense if you’re talking about which bosses individually are required/optional; not if you’re talking generally about the minimum number of bosses to get to act 2 or whatever

(what are you talking about actually i lost the plot 💀)

[lusty grove]

there are more orbs than needed

[verbal steeple]

wtf

[light swan]

to get orbs faster

[tight viper]

There’s extra memory orbs because of a lore tablet

[slim thorn]

seems like you can barely get enough orbs by exploring verdania a lot

[tight viper]

If you don’t want the lore, Palestag is completely optional

[lusty grove]

yeah it seems like I was talking about the first thing but everyone else was talking about the second

[tribal scroll]

First Sinner, Second Sentinal, Fourth Chorus and The Last Judge.
Will pantheon of pharloom give us a third something 👀

[light swan]

third pinstress

[tight viper]

We already have a third something

Or rather, a three something

[light swan]

we canonically see 3 ingame, 1 of them is dead in putrified fucks

[lusty grove]

Threefold Melody

[tight viper]

Threefold Pin boss fight

[light swan]

see its irght in front of our eyes

[lusty grove]

yeah that too

[still osprey]

So, Pinstress

[tight viper]

Yeah, it’s foreshadowing

[lusty grove]

the Threefold Pin is a Craw weapon

[tight viper]

Very clever, Team Pomegranate

[verbal steeple]

i wonder if the grimm troupe would show up in silksong

[tight viper]

Highly doubt it

[still osprey]

Yea and Pinstress is a squatcraw

[verbal steeple]

like. if the knight doesn't banish grimm. grimm would probably explore more no?

[tight viper]

Pharloom isn’t a dead kingdom

[light swan]

third pinstress will be those dashing guys cuz theyre kind of fun

[tight viper]

There’s no reason for the Troupe to show up

[verbal steeple]

does grimm only travel to dead kingdoms?

[light swan]

anyways its time @ancient mortar

[verbal steeple]

also in act 3 the kingdom is very much in ruin. and the herald shows up

[still osprey]

We already have a fire cult in silksong we don't need a second

[gentle dome]

Guys I’m screwed: I need to get to Styx I died in Karrak, Ik I’m not getting back to it alive

[verbal steeple]

so it would make sense if grimm ALSO showed up. he'd put trobbio in his place

[orchid locust]

lmk how it is i have it on the wishlist ✌️

[light swan]

i dont have high expectations

this way, ill be surprised when the game is good

[verbal steeple]

do u think trobbio and grimm would be friends

[ancient mortar]

It's a very good story, dark, but really well written and told, good art style and combat and movement is fun, it's a bit short tho

[light swan]

i dont like super short games like 5 hour games

[tight viper]

Don’t think the troupe would have time to set up the lantern

[still osprey]

They're gay lovers, your honor

[light swan]

but laika being short is good isnce i also have rain world in my library

[ancient mortar]

I think it's longer than that

[lusty grove]

the minimum amount of bosses you need to fight in Silksong for Sister of the Void ending is:
Moss Mother, Bell Beast, Widow, Last Judge, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2, Groal the Great, Grand Mother Silk, Forebrothers Signis and Gron, Seth, Nyleth, Karmelita, Clover Dancers, and Lost Lace
for a total of 15

[ancient mortar]

Just shorter than skong by a notable margin

[light swan]

yea ive heard laika is 15-20, leaning towards 20

Where We Come To Die

[ancient mortar]

I'll check my hours since I did only one playthrough

[orchid locust]

i’m fine with short i’m not tryna play a bunch of 50+ hour games back to back to back to back 😭 😭

[opaque sigil]

15-20 is not a short game outside of like jrpgs

[light swan]

ender games and gris and ori games are all short which is why i havent played them juuust yet

[light swan]

yea im like used to 40-100 hour games

[ancient mortar]

Also combats not super duper hard but it's very fun and you can get really good at it and style on enemies.

[ancient mortar]

Honestly I've played some of the best jrpgs that are shorter than that

[light swan]

soimething like 20 is still fine but less than that gets a bit short

[lusty grove]

for any of the Act 2 endings except Snared Silk, it's:
Moss Mother, Widow, Phantom, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2, and Grand Mother Silk
for a total of 7

[orchid locust]

i think mount fay should have an entrance to voltnest and a way to karak thereby

[opaque sigil]

Short of course doesn’t mean bad

[light swan]

if you havent played xenoblade you havent played some of the best

[lusty grove]

act 3 only adds 8 extra "required" bosses

[spare fractal]

is paper mario the thousand year door one of them?

[earnest drift]

electrified freezing water

[still osprey]

Are there enough wishes in the game to enter Act 3 without doing any Grand Hunts like Skull Tyrant and Beastfly? Surely, right?

[light swan]

short means i cant enjoy it for as long which i dont like

[ancient mortar]

The thing with rain world is players either have 1 hour in it or 500 because people either give up early or become obsessed

[opaque sigil]

Sort of depends on the game

[ancient mortar]

Never played it

[opaque sigil]

Short can mean extra repeatable

[light swan]

wait bwb should i use mouse for this game

[verbal steeple]

if hornet can make poison lightning. electrified freezing water doesn't sound impossible

[light swan]

theres guns so i think yes right

[ancient mortar]

I'd say so there's a lot of precise gun aiming

[earnest drift]

she can't make poison lightning though

[ancient mortar]

Tho you do get bullet time I think

[earnest drift]

pollip pouch only works on the stake/bolas

[lusty grove]

the complete list of truly required bosses (as in, bosses you have to fight no matter what) (for Sister of the Void ending) is:
Moss Mother, Widow, Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, Lace 2, Groal the Great, Grand Mother Silk, Forebrothers Signis and Gron, and Lost Lace
for a total of 9

[earnest drift]

not the electricity itself

[ancient mortar]

Honestly the funniest thing about katana zero is it's 10x better with no bullet time

[light swan]

well i have a problem

[verbal steeple]

is that actually how it works?

[earnest drift]

i believe so

[orchid locust]

that’d be cool imagine like electrical arcs frozen in midair (i know thats not realistic but ✌️)

plus there can just not be any water in the connector area

[verbal steeple]

i don't use shit pouch

[light swan]

i cant bind anything to anything mouse related

shoot and hook are by default on mouse but i cant bind anything else to mouse

[verbal steeple]

i am not gonna equip pollip pouch to test this

i'd rather die than use pollip trash

[earnest drift]

i hate pollip pouch because everyone who says it's good also hates snitch pick

[ancient mortar]

You don't need dash on mouse it's not as important as it is in hk

[lusty grove]

I like both

[ancient mortar]

At least iirc

[shadow hill]

what game is that

[earnest drift]

and i love snitch pick

[light swan]

but im still gonna use it and im not using it if im on mouse

[lusty grove]

Pollip Pouch is intrinsically better than nothing

[verbal steeple]

i equip snitch pick because i can't find anything else to use other than it.

[verbal steeple]

atleast with my architect build

[unkempt steeple]

beat great conchflies hitless first try, forgot to equip barbed bracelet too

[earnest drift]

i used to think pollip pouch was overhated but it really does suck

[verbal steeple]

i'll run like. circlet+snitch pick+ i don't remember maybe longclaw

[lusty grove]

Pollip Pouch has synergy with Architect

[ancient mortar]

Pollip pouch is a cosmetic item

[verbal steeple]

it doesn't really

[earnest drift]

not really

[lusty grove]

it's better than nothing

[ancient mortar]

There's better options tho

[lusty grove]

and it's cool

[verbal steeple]

also since u have THREE RED SLOTS it means that pollip pouch will deff have anti synergy with ONE OF YOUR tools

[earnest drift]

if you spam red tools then pollip pouch diesn't do anything

[light swan]

wait so bwb what is dash used for if youre saying that im not gonna be using it

[lusty grove]

it's really good early game

[verbal steeple]

using plasmium? boom. get fucked

[lusty grove]

and Purple Cogflies are cool

[earnest drift]

and usually you will spam red tools on architect

[ancient mortar]

I don't even remember there being a dash until pretty late game.

[lusty grove]

then don't use it with Plasmium

[light swan]

like ik walk left and walk right are for some scripted stuff where i wont need to be worrying

[ancient mortar]

Wait

[verbal steeple]

when using architect i run "flea brew+flintslate+(architect silkshot) or maybe like somethin else"

[light swan]

is dash used for that mode

[lusty grove]

"why does Circlet suck in my Shaman Build?"

[ancient mortar]

Maybe it's been a while honestly

[verbal steeple]

except. circlet doesn't suck in shaman builds

[earnest drift]

pollip pouch is terrible with those first two

[ancient mortar]

But combat only happens on the bike

[lusty grove]

wha

[earnest drift]

does it??

[verbal steeple]

yup.

[verbal steeple]

spreading misinformation that's what he's doing

[earnest drift]

this is the fucking smoothest tech i've seen from you

[light swan]

circlet is good with dash cancelling on shaman

[ancient mortar]

Circlets actually good on shaman lol

[tight viper]

Sawtooth works on every crest

[lusty grove]

I just didn't know

[light swan]

have you never seen this before? i send it a lot

[verbal steeple]

circlet is good with everything

[lusty grove]

I'm actually surprised

[verbal steeple]

if u have circlet literally nothing matters anymore

[ancient mortar]

Circlet just doubles your DPS essentially

[verbal steeple]

reaper crest becomes S tier with circlet. everything else becomes SSS tier

[earnest drift]

what's it called

[light swan]

id say rdac chains are the coolest thing ive came up with by far

[light swan]

shaman dash cancelling

[verbal steeple]

you would think that circlet is overrated

but its perfectly rated because its GOATED

[light swan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UM05TUYbTIs

[ancient mortar]

Circlet and volt filament are the only blue tools I think are busted

[earnest drift]

sawtooth circlet is the only reason hornet can out-dps the knight

[ancient mortar]

Injector too ig but that's for newer players

[verbal steeple]

cant u do this with all crests?

i always do it

u double jump immediatly dash and attack. atleast. that's what i assume i'm seeing

[earnest drift]

does circlet need a nerf

[light swan]

nope, shaman crest is the only one where your attack cooldown gets reduced

[verbal steeple]

yes

[ancient mortar]

Yeah, and volt

2 tools that pull way more weight than any other blue

[verbal steeple]

oh. well i still use it with other crests because its a good way to dash into opponents

[earnest drift]

i'm personally okay with it because it takes skill to use

[light swan]

well youre not doing what im doing

[verbal steeple]

eh. circlet is still REALLY good even if u don't have skill

[tight viper]

Thought it worked on Reaper pogo too?

[light swan]

because i get 2 attacks off while what youre doing is 1

[light swan]

i dont think so

the cooldowns at least are the same

[tight viper]

Or maybe that’s for a successful hit

[light swan]

every pogo gets finished after you land it except for witch

and that includes reaper

[verbal steeple]

what the fuck 😭

[tight viper]

Right yeah

[light swan]

so the endlag you have on reaper pogo doesnt exist once youve landed it

OH i forgot i have 2 shift buttons ngl

i can still dash with my left hand

[exotic dome]

i think it requires skill to use it so no

[light swan]

not really

with skill it becomes the strongest thing ever, its still crazy good when youre bad

[verbal steeple]

yeah. either nerf circlet. or buff the other stuff

but honestly? pollip pouch feels like its supposed to be not good intentionally

something something greyroot foreshadowing

[exotic dome]

i'd buff the other stuff, game is already difficult for most people and some tools are just worthless

[verbal steeple]

or maybe i'm just looking too into it and team cherry just sucks at balancing lmao

[light swan]

pollip pouch fell so witch could fly

[tight viper]

Pollip Pouch shouldn’t nerf the damage buff of Flintslate

[verbal steeple]

true..

[tight viper]

It already removes the ability to set shit on fire

[mental arch]

Once again at work abt to shit myself

[verbal steeple]

technically from what i read about the wiki. the poison effect seems to be better than fire.

also flintslate turns off if u fall in water. but not with pollip pouch

[rough quiver]

Well it is literally refuse from the rite

It’s canonically trash

[exotic dome]

it's funny

[verbal steeple]

i also think pollip pouch increases the duration of the flintslate

[light swan]

bwb i died

[mental arch]

boob

[hoary surge]

wtf

[tight viper]

Fire is 4 damage per with 3 ticks at max level, poison is 3 damage per tick with 3 ticks

[verbal steeple]

so its worse.

[tight viper]

Poison is, yeah

[verbal steeple]

tho how much duration does flintslate normally have? 5 seconds?

[tight viper]

8, buffed to 10 with pollip

[verbal steeple]

oh wow yeah no pollip is just

[light swan]

getting ||crucified with your own intestines and guts|| is crazy (trigger warning maybe?)

[verbal steeple]

wow. they actually couldev made it work well with plasmium but

[lusty grove]

?

[verbal steeple]

is this some reference

[lusty grove]

oh Plasmium

[light swan]

beginning of laika, the game im playing

[verbal steeple]

oh

[lusty grove]

it's also kinda Zylotol's fate

wait where is the Guarana skip again?

I think I missed it

[verbal steeple]

i think its in the room outside of one of the pollip flowers or the bench

[lusty grove]

here?

[verbal steeple]

the gurama skip is there yes

tho its done in the right side of the room not the left

[lusty grove]

wha

[crude geyser]

Chat on ps5 what button do I press to activate act 3 on mother silk

Triangle ?

Srs

[verbal steeple]

anyways this is like my best fight against shakra

[light swan]

holy shit drifting your bike at the right time deflects bullets

[lusty grove]

just used Guarana on combat

[light swan]

a full drift is a spot dodge, a half drift is a deflect

[tight viper]

Good fight, great use of sawtooth

[crude geyser]

I low-key first tried mother silk wtf that was so easy

[lusty grove]

Cling Grip acquired

Sis Splints successfully skipped

[mental arch]

Anyone want to be added to my hollow knight erp groupchat?

[tight viper]

Average first playthrough GMS experience

[crude geyser]

I made it to act 3, I hope I didn’t forget anything

[crude geyser]

GMS ?

[tight viper]

Grand Mother Silk

[crude geyser]

And yay the Abyss are back

[lusty grove]

Widow defeated

what a lot of people don't notice is that there's a Weavenest Widow

[crude geyser]

Chat , besides shakra and garmodin, is there any boss that arent available on act 3 ?

[analog mist]

I don't think so

I think those two are the only "enemies" that you don't need for the hunter journal so

[lusty grove]

you also don't need Palestag

[analog mist]

oh yeah forgot about that

[lusty grove]

Needolin in 44 minutes, is that good?

[rocky lotus]

You miss out on the mort boss fight if you enter act 3

[tribal scroll]

I learned my lesson, I'm doing everything I can in act 2 before going to act 3 lmao

[earnest drift]

I love grand mother silk

[simple orbit]

yooo

[earnest drift]

she’s executed so well

[rocky lotus]

No you dont

[light swan]

hiii

[rocky lotus]

You are lace

[simple orbit]

||i’ve gotten to the point where i can fight for the spine but im also climbing the canopy rn and ik there’s an ending up here. is taking the spine an ending or is it different||

@light swan

[lusty grove]

got to the Mist

[earnest drift]

no I’m not

I would never want to be lace her life sucks

[hoary surge]

sup lace?

[earnest drift]

hi

[light swan]

||taking the spine is first ending, canopy is second ending||

[rocky lotus]

So you admit it

[earnest drift]

what’s the third best blue tool

[lusty grove]

almost died in the Mist

will try again tomorrow

[earnest drift]

I admit that pilgrims are worthless trash who don’t deserve to live

[rocky lotus]

That sounds like something lace would say

[simple orbit]

so i do one after another?

[hoary surge]

what about that one guy who got killed by skull tyrant?

[earnest drift]

deserved, I only wish they died slower

[hoary surge]

Technically couldn't lace be hornet's aunt?

[earnest drift]

kind of and not really

[rocky lotus]

No

[hoary surge]

ok

[light swan]

yea you can

[rocky lotus]

The weavers are not daughters of gms

[hoary surge]

oh right, i forgot

[earnest drift]

only widow sees her as a mother

the others call themselves first children but also
I feel like if they saw gms as a mother, they wouldn’t imprison her and put her in a permanent coma

[hoary surge]

fair

[rocky lotus]

Wdym isnt that what everyone does to their mother

[hoary surge]

i didn't do that to my mother, instead i forgot what she looks like

https://klipy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-silk-song-1

[tight meadow]

I mean they technically ain't even her children

[hoary surge]

gn guys

[earnest drift]

goodnight

what is the best blue tool after sawtooth circlet and volt filament

[tight meadow]

The extra 1hp of heal

Or polip pouch

[earnest drift]

most YouTubers would say pollip pouch

[rocky lotus]

Injector bands

[earnest drift]

dang

yesterday I was calculating the highest possible burst damage for each crest

[tight meadow]

How much does the lace attack do

Wanderers crest charge attack

[earnest drift]

with challenge, flintslate and barbed bracelet, and critting on every single hit, it deals 350 dmg

[tight meadow]

no I meant normally with no crits

[unkempt steeple]

okay so I beat voltwyrm mostly hitless but then I got hit as it started playing its death animation and died but when I came back it stayed dead, does that count as hitless?

this was a second try

[tight meadow]

I don't think so

[unkempt steeple]

the runback is harder than the boss

[earnest drift]

we thought witch’s best burst dmg was its bind with multibinder, claw mirrors and warding bell, which dealt 181 dmg

but I calculated that fully extended witch needle strike with flintslate, barbed bracelet, challenge deals 184 dmg

[tight viper]

Could probably just redo it

[tight meadow]

Volt boi is easier than FotF

[unkempt steeple]

ehhh I'll count it, easy enough I could've probably done it anyways

[tight meadow]

And I thought he was easy

[tight viper]

That’s fair

[shy kettle]

e

[tight viper]

It died, after all

[unkempt steeple]

bro playing on easy mode

[tight viper]

Looks fun

[earnest drift]

would architect’s best burst dmg be its needle strike

[unkempt steeple]

btw do NOT attempt the voltvyrm run back with only five masks and barbed bracelet

[earnest drift]

there isn’t really a way to get super high burst dmg with one button press with red tools

[tight meadow]

Tacks

[shy kettle]

1

[earnest drift]

that only deals like 56 dmg

[tight meadow]

Maybe architects silkshot

[earnest drift]

that’s 18 dmg

[tight meadow]

Pimpollos with the 2x throw

[earnest drift]

that’s 102 dmg

[tight meadow]

no

I thought they did 40dmg

[simple orbit]

i’ll do them after this new area in the canopy

[tight viper]

Looks not as fun, wow. How hard is this room compared to the rest of the Marrow?

[earnest drift]

oh hang on
Voltvessels bolas with quick sling deals 180 dmg

[tight viper]

Wait no

[hoary surge]

gn guys

[earnest drift]

that’s higher than most burst dmg in the game

[tight viper]

That’s the damn Underworks isn’t it, that’s the cauldron exit

[earnest drift]

dang that’s kind of boring

[tight meadow]

Please, good luck hitting one

[earnest drift]

they’re good on some bosses and terrible on others

[tight meadow]

At best you're getting 2 hitting

[stable pilot]

Gn once again

[shy kettle]

just throw it at a wall they stack there and proc each other

[tight meadow]

What about snare setter

I never used it ngl

[tight viper]

Lots of damage but it’s slow

[tight meadow]

What's fwssh

[earnest drift]

good

[tight meadow]

Ahh I see

[tight viper]

Floorless Wallless Silk Skillless Hitless

Doing as many bosses as possible like this

[tight meadow]

Which do you think will be hardest? Also I dunno about you beating LL

[leaden delta]

ya thats nice icl

[tight meadow]

Wait what does floorless mean

[tight viper]

So far the hardest has been probably the Forebrothers, though Clover Dancers, Shakra, Palestag, etc. were all hard as well

[tight viper]

I can’t touch the floor, excluding scream stuns

[tight meadow]

But like how would you do that for LL

[tight viper]

Lost Lace might be impossible, but I thought the same thing about Clover Dancers and the Unravelled

[radiant cape]

Hi, I thought I would join this discord to find out new info just in case I ever get stuck,
Im a new player you see...

[tight viper]

Not sure yet, haven’t tried that fight, saving it for later

[earnest drift]

how tf do you do floorless Shakra

[tight meadow]

What about you can touch the floor when the boss dips from the screen

Cuz like it is impossible to get through the double waves

[tight viper]

Like this
https://youtu.be/K223cE11uEU?si=tbqfrLBqJRc_9JP_

[radiant cape]

Right now I'm at greymoore

[tight meadow]

@tight viper what about karmelitta?

[tight viper]

Doesn’t count, only times I’m allowing myself to touch the floor is if the game physically forces me to by taking control away from me

[tight meadow]

Well actually it might be possibel

[tight viper]

Had a mod that disabled the gauntlet for her, I’ll refight her with the gauntlet enabled at some point

Didn’t feel like dealing with the gauntlet at the time

[earnest drift]

funnily I thought that if you go too high up in Shakra’s bossfight, she telefrags you

[tight meadow]

If you silk soar up you can dodge both waves

[earnest drift]

apparently not

[tight meadow]

What gauntlet?

[tight viper]

She can, she killed me a fair few times with telefrags

[earnest drift]

oh

[tight meadow]

What's a telefrag

[tight viper]

The last claws and shit

[tight meadow]

Does she like yoink you back?

[tight viper]

Enemy teleports into me and kills me

[earnest drift]

well if I don’t go up too high I can no hit Shakra consistently

[tight meadow]

Ahhh

[earnest drift]

Shakra’s bossfight is pretty hated but I like it

[tight viper]

Can’t silk soar while airborne

[tight meadow]

Ik but she might scream when about to do waves

[tight viper]

The stun scream comes after both waves

[tight meadow]

And if you time is perfectly you can completely skip that

[tight meadow]

Isn't there one before too tho?

[tight viper]

Nope

[tight meadow]

Dammmm

What about karmelitta tho @tight viper

[tight viper]

Makes sense, easier to dodge and parry her rings when she’s above you vs when she’s below you imo

[tight viper]

You mean the vid?

[tight meadow]

I'd really like to see a fwssh fight for her

[tight viper]

https://youtu.be/650wXON_lWs?si=0VubYy7yARLoP9C9

[tight meadow]

Will be watching this later

Hmmm

What about bell eater? They shouldn't be too hard

[tight viper]

Bell Eater was hell

Phase change was evil

[tight meadow]

The walls technically are the boss so you can just use the thingy

Silk grab yknow

I forget what it's called

[tight viper]

I could pogo the “walls” yeah, and clawline em

[tight meadow]

Yeah claw lines the name

[tight viper]

But that fight was awful

[tight meadow]

What about sister splinter

Sounds impossible ngl

[tight viper]

Same thing as LL, might be possible but I doubt it. I’ll have to test that fight some more

[tight meadow]

Maybe try clawlining her walls

They also are technically not a wall so if you can pogo off of it

[tight viper]

That’s not the problem there

[radiant cape]

Is it just me, as a casual in greymoore currently but the bloody dive birds are so bloody annoying

[stable pilot]

Downpatch to volt pogo

[tight viper]

The problem is her

[tight meadow]

Poison buddy bois

[tight viper]

Honestly I might have to lmao

[tight viper]

She’s immune to poison

[tight meadow]

ugh

[stable pilot]

Probably the only way to

[tight viper]

The Craws are very annoying, yeah

Tools are solid against them though, sting shard in particular

[tight meadow]

@tight viper who's left for bosses

[tight viper]

One sec

[errant shore]

Don't worry, ||there's a boss that spawns them|| later on. Oh, and they ||also spawn those annoying aimbot 3 pin birds too||.

[tight meadow]

Aight 👍

[radiant cape]

Im in that chamber with all the birds rn, and I can,t handle getting dive bombed by 3 bloody birds at once

[tight meadow]

Bro that guy was ez (obv first try)

[shy kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-absolute-cinema-gif-774649724514166125

[radiant cape]

OH NO

[tight meadow]

And it took me at least 30 tries for hornet 2 in hk

[tight viper]

Oh you’re at the bird gauntlet? That’s a fun one, keep your ears open. If they caw, they’re probably going for your head

[errant shore]

That reminds me, I have to go and kill that boss

If you kill it you get passive rosary generation

[tight meadow]

Is it on ur yt?

[radiant cape]

Ok I,ll look for it.
One of my friends that got me into the game is telling me about a pogo?
So im practicing that as well rn

[crude geyser]

The reaper crest is the best one in the game im ngl

[tight viper]

There’s a list of them on there, yeah, hasn’t been updated in a bit though

[tight viper]

Pogos are good at countering their dive attacks, yeah

Also a good way to learn how to use pogos in combat

[radiant cape]

Is it weird that that's the first crest you officially get?

[tight viper]

They’re very useful for dodging attacks while maintaining pressure

[crude geyser]

Yeah funny thats it’s the best one

It has the best pogo

[radiant cape]

Ok I,ll practice on the birds

[crude geyser]

For example

[tight meadow]

@tight viper wait what about bell beast

I think she's impossible

[crude geyser]

I you want to train pogo play the reaper crest

[radiant cape]

Ok

[tight viper]

Very annoying but not impossible, just required good luck with the attack cycles

[unkempt steeple]

Beat hitless judge, honestly thought it'd be harder

[light swan]

reaper or wanderer is a good introduction to pogos, id say learn hunter if you wanna get good

[radiant cape]

Wait what do you mean by "pogo play"?

[tight meadow]

Hmmm what about widow

[tight viper]

How many attempts?

[crude geyser]

If you want to train pogo, play the reaper crest

I should have reworded

[tight viper]

Chaotic as hell, fun as hell, pantheon of Pharloom mod took it from a cakewalk to a stroll on hot coals

[tight meadow]

Has team cherry mentioned sthn like God home for sk?

[unkempt steeple]

Like 8 or smth but I got pretty close in my second attempt (dealt the final hit but got hit by one of the fire circles at the same time lol)

[radiant cape]

Ohh ok yeah i,ve actually already been using that one

[crude geyser]

Good then

[tight meadow]

Ngl pantheon of pharloom might be easier than p5

[radiant cape]

Ok im going to attempt to fight the bird gaunt again.

[tight meadow]

If the pharloom bosses aren't buffed****

[tight viper]

Damn, I’ve been there when doing radhog in HK lol

They’ll definitely be buffed if we get godhome

Almost every early game boss was buffed, some more than others

[tight meadow]

I'd really like a widow extra hard version

[unkempt steeple]

Every boss will be buffed in godhome....

[brisk charm]

can i stream worldbuilding in silksong general or no idk-

[unkempt steeple]

Absolute moss mother

[tight meadow]

Moss mother can't be made hard

[tight viper]

No clue, might be something in the rules or announcement channels about that

[tight meadow]

Wait would double moss mother count as a different boss

[tight viper]

Good luck, don’t be afraid to use tools

[tight meadow]

I guess so

[radiant cape]

I think I understand now...

[tight meadow]

Imagine radiant 4x mm

[brisk charm]

use beast if you have it

[radiant cape]

THE POGO IS THE KEY

[tight meadow]

And bombs

[unkempt steeple]

Hitless boss run bosses left: raging conchfly, savage beastfly 2, lace 2, gms, shakra, garmond and zaza, broodmother, first sinner, father of the flame, groal and all the act 3 bosses exept lost lace bc I already beat her hitless before starting this

[brisk charm]

i think i can stream it, im gonna and see what happens

[radiant cape]

Bombs?
Im in greymoore I ain't got no bombs?

[tight meadow]

Pimpollos

[unkempt steeple]

Broodmother hitless sounds scary

[tight viper]

Sounds like a fun bunch

[tight meadow]

You legit make them there @radiant cape

[tight viper]

She’s way, way easier than she first seems

[rocky lotus]

savage beastfly 2...

[radiant cape]

How do you get those?

[tight meadow]

Look it up

[tight viper]

I thought she would be hell to fight, she was the opposite

Just don’t be rash

[radiant cape]

Ok

[unkempt steeple]

I'll see when I get there (probably gonna get all the act 2 nail upgrades first tho)

[tight meadow]

What about fwshh voltvrm that has to be impossible

[tight viper]

That one is the only one that is absolutely, undoubtedly impossible

[tight meadow]

Does silk soar deal dmg to him if you hit him with it?

[scarlet karma]

abs

[tight meadow]

Just wondering ik it wouldn't help

[tight viper]

Think everything takes silk soar damage

[scarlet karma]

u can’t use silksoar tho

[feral lintel]

Team Cherry better give me Sea of Sorrow or I'm gonna see their sorrow

[tight viper]

Unless something can’t be hit from below, but I don’t think anything exists like that

Maybe the smokerock sifter?

[tight meadow]

Sos better add more knight

[rocky lotus]

everytime someone asks when sos is coming out, it gets delayed by 1 month

[tight viper]

They’re working on a new patch I’ve heard

Probably focused on that

Hope it buffs Khann

[tight meadow]

I hope they give me something to spend my 6000 rosaries on

[tight viper]

New Bellhome stuff, perhaps

[scarlet karma]

imobas maybe ?

[tight viper]

Which ones are those again?

[tight meadow]

A shiny pearl for 9999 would be neat

[feral lintel]

i didnt ask i demanded

[tight meadow]

And you can get 99 of them

[tight meadow]

I want to hold more shards

[tight viper]

I think those are only invincible from above, not below