sk-discussion

[light swan]

are you talking about architect

[smoky bridge]

Yes

[frosty light]

is zote a vessel ❌
is karmelita a vessel ✅

[light swan]

never had that issue

[smoky bridge]

Unless they patched it

[smoky bridge]

Oh, no, not saying that you get bad damage. You could just get more if you get unreasonably close for some reason.

[copper hedge]

hmmm anyways gn guys
imma try silksong modding and make a mod for it for fun

[light swan]

nah im saying i never had the unreasonably close eyeball issue

[copper hedge]

?

[smoky bridge]

I wish there were crest themed Hornet skins...

[light swan]

i think this is the only reaper clip i have on me

[frosty light]

oh wow he takes a while, huh

[light swan]

and these two actually

[frosty light]

these are still so insane looking to me

[lavish apex]

mfw worse version of witch pogo circlet spam

[light swan]

no its kinda different because of the height

you stay at exactly the same spot due to how reaper pogo works

[frosty light]

my fingers hurt trying to imagine doing the insta drifter's shit on controller while alternating pogos

[opaque sigil]

mio at home

[light swan]

yea you gotta insta drifters into pogo and repeat

witch spogo is just spogo spogo spogo downdash repeat

anyway i think i found more reaper gp

[exotic fern]

replaying hollow knight after silksong is so Weird

wheres my glide this is unplayable

[frosty light]

all we got is hidden look down tutorial 😌

[lavish apex]

i didn't find it that weird tbh

[light swan]

fucking backstep istg

[smoky bridge]

YEAH I WAS SURPRISED.

[lavish apex]

lowkey same

[smoky bridge]

For me it's the reverse.

I feel so slowwwwww

[chrome canopy]

No clawline?
No healing in the air?
Actually how would a Nyleth fight as the knight go

[smoky bridge]

Lyou pogo loop and then die.

[light swan]

dude reaper is so damn fun holy shit

[smoky bridge]

Cause you can't even Ddark for iframes.

[light swan]

i forget how awesome this crest is

[exotic fern]

a fight with nyleth would last at most 15 seconds because of void spells

nyleth vs 3 abyssal shrieks

[lavish apex]

you could probably just sharp shadow out of all the area nukes

[frosty light]

hmm it was just a pretty short jump but i still wonder if you need to be in the air for her to do it. have you seen her do it while youve stayed on the floor for a prolonged period? might just be coincidences after all...

[graceful oyster]

Hey

[smoky bridge]

?

[chrome canopy]

okay 3 sounds like too little
it's still an Act 3 boss

[lavish apex]

i got speedrun 2 earlier today

that was fun

[exotic fern]

3 and a couple nail hits

[frosty light]

fuck it we ball https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TKl02GYXkI

[light swan]

you need to be a bit in the air

[frosty light]

(the walls dont work btw)

[lavish apex]

not sure if it was as fun as the same thing in silksong

[chrome canopy]

WHAT

this is just the father of the flame fight

[smoky bridge]

Pyre papa

[light swan]

the reverse cross stitch into a kill was awesome

but im lowkey just playing reaper like witch ngl

i think claw mirrors and witch bind were made for me

[smoky bridge]

I miss obscenely broken Architect Needle art turbo drill.

[light swan]

oh yea oh yea

[lavish apex]

man

[smoky bridge]

It had to be done, but chewing up bosses like a wet tissue with hornet's industrial borer was funny.

[lavish apex]

i wish
mio had an air dash

i know stroosting exists but it doesn't hit the same

[light swan]

architect posting

[light swan]

sunsail

[graceful oyster]

I know they're not the same, but Ori had an air dash and I did not like it

It felt pointless in the floatiness of the game

And when bash existed

[lavish apex]

a dash in general honestly

[graceful oyster]

(Mio has hairpin)

[smoky bridge]

I didn't enjoy Ori at all

[raw pawn]

How early in the run can you get cling grip? I am trying to get plasmium phial as fast as possible

[light swan]

a general dash stroosting works fine

[smoky bridge]

Shame cause I wanted to

[lavish apex]

i feel like mobility is kinda limited when you don't have anything to hairpin

[light swan]

airdash sunsail isnt technically a dash but it feels as nice

[untold dune]

yeah striders works good enough as a speed boost but it is a bit annoying you have to go at walking pace for the first half of the game

[light swan]

since its a MASSIVE air speedboost

[frosty light]

aura crafting...

[light swan]

its why i want everyone to use sunsail, it makes air mobility so good

[lavish apex]

sunsail is like 30 slots thoooooo

[graceful oyster]

Tell the devs to make it cheaper

[lavish apex]

i think

[light swan]

it is but its entirely worth it if you dont have anything better to put there

[frosty light]

uh i think cocoon skip in wormways or skipping greymoor with enough fleas?

[graceful oyster]

But I always will

For 30

[light swan]

i will always sacrifice something for sunsail even if it was 60

unless im not sailing

which is never because having an airdash equivalent is so nice

[raw pawn]

So I don't need dash?

[graceful oyster]

What

[wicked ruin]

ok i just started silksong, is there a path of pain? thats all i need to know

[light swan]

not yet

[raw pawn]

My bad wrong reply

[raw pawn]

So I don't need dash?

[lavish apex]

only 10 whole slots less than sharpened hairpin is crazy for that effect

[smoky bridge]

No, but people are calling random shit path of pain cause they are bad at 2d platformers.

[light swan]

ik

[smoky bridge]

(and likely bald)

[light swan]

its not worth it but the effect is sooo good

[raw pawn]

Imagine they add a secret platforming section to mt fay in a dlc tho

[light swan]

have you seen my ||crucible|| hitless videos with sunsail

[frosty light]

i think so? dont totally remember tho

[wicked ruin]

aw man, i loved the pop in hk, i finished it and bought sk, going to like play both but mainly after i finish hk, i suck at platformers but thats what makes it interesting, thanks

[lavish apex]

nah

[smoky bridge]

There is in general more platforming tho.

And lots of little challenges.

[wicked ruin]

yea i can see ive died twice already lol, going to be the third time i fight the beast guy at the start of the game

[smoky bridge]

But not like. One huge thingamabob testing all your movement.

[raw pawn]

Bell beast?

[wicked ruin]

yeah, i did see a video about that one bench though

[wicked ruin]

yes that one

[lavish apex]

if you like really difficult precision platforming in a metroidvania you should play mio :)

[smoky bridge]

Mt Fae doesn't even need pogo.

I hate your pfp by the way.

[frosty light]

no but i think the surface climb is still supposed to be somewhat analogous due to how they chose to describe it
"Past cradle's peak, last test of fitness"
so yeah, not path of pain, test of fitness

[wicked ruin]

everyone does

[frosty light]

hopefully we get a harder section in an update

[light swan]

bit of sunsail propaganda for you

[wicked ruin]

hopefully, idk what most people are talking about in here since im new but ill figure out soon

[leaden delta]

oh. Fucking silksong platforming

[frosty light]

like hornet....

[leaden delta]

that shit suckssssssssss

[versed pollen]

If it's not SJ GMHS diff is it even worth it

[light swan]

ALSO note that if you sunsail during striders then you move BARELY faster but the placebo feels nice

[smoky bridge]

Huh???

Yaal bad 🚬

[raw pawn]

You don't mind a little spoiler about (their) gender?

[leaden delta]

not even bad

[smoky bridge]

Genda soilers

[leaden delta]

it just. isnt that interesting

[smoky bridge]

It's a combat focused game.

[leaden delta]

My platforming is too op

[lavish apex]

does it make striders drain faster too?

[smoky bridge]

And the platforming isn't even bad.

[leaden delta]

tc hire me so I can do good shit

[frosty light]

shrue?!

[raw pawn]

Idk I found the platforming in mt fay fun

[smoky bridge]

Now not saying the game is perfect.

[light swan]

yes

[smoky bridge]

cough cough Architect Silkshot cough cough rosary cannon cough,
Proceeds to die of oxygen deprivation

[light swan]

but thats fine because you still stroost the same amount

[leaden delta]

you’re right tc cares more about their combat. however they certainly do care for platforming, and added more opportunity for it to silksong. unfortunately they don’t do shit with this ever

harpoon isnt refresh based whyyyyyy

[opaque sigil]

does stroosting save energy

[raw pawn]

Mt fay itself is a very cool area imo I hope we get more of it in a dlc

[smoky bridge]

The tools. Are... Certainly balanced.

[frosty light]

WHY DID THEY MAKE THE COOLEST HARDEST TO USE SILK SHOT STRICTLY THE WEAKEST AAAAAARRGHHHH

[smoky bridge]

Rosary cannon as well.

[light swan]

it dashes you faster than regular sunstriding so technically you get more distance for the same energy?

[leaden delta]

shandow play hunts map

[smoky bridge]

You are shooting literal moneym and it deals extremely bad damage.

[raw pawn]

Wait architect silkshot is worse than forge daughter's?

[opaque sigil]

I see. I guess if you did crucible with sun sail then the added strider drain just isn't an issue

[frosty light]

if all 3 shots hit it deals less damage than the laser and the laser deals less damage than the forge daughter bullet

[lavish apex]

clawline gives a refresh and i think that's a good thing

[leaden delta]

silksong’s platforming is just incredibly boring and basic. It becomes kinda interesting for 2 rooms and then shit just ends

[leaden delta]

no no no, the thing itself. It doesn’t depend on being refreshed to be used multiple times in the air

You can spam harpoon, and I think that shit is immensely stupid

[frosty light]

yeah if you have silk you can just use it forever

[lavish apex]

i don't really think that uh

hurts anything?

very much?

[raw pawn]

I mean tbh it makes sense that strongest silkshot is the weaver one since it was a tool made by the weavers anyway

[frosty light]

remember several times farming silk just to use clawline crystal dash at the top of a room to see if there was a secret somewhere

[lavish apex]

i can't recall a sequence ever feeling broken by the fact that you can just spam clawline without a target

[light swan]

you can really see how much i just constantly want to be sailing in the left side

[raw pawn]

I tried doing that in songclave and got rewarded by a heavy rosary string

[light swan]

the speed is so nice

once youve went the entire game from going from slow walking speed midair to zooming across the entire room its sooo good

[lavish apex]

with a target it kinda is, i've seen cog core skips but that's from the gears

[light swan]

any time i jump i always sunsail cuz its basically an airdash

but its so obvious when you use it for the first time and realize how good it is

[frosty light]

tho its not like theyre identical since theyre still best suited in somewhat different situations it still tends to outclass dash and double jump pretty hard, going farther, automatically sending you upwards if you hit something (unless you stop it) and being reusable. only reason you wouldnt want to use it all the time in a normal playthrough is to be stingy with silk (like me )

[opaque sigil]

when I do my next mio playthrough I'll use it

[lavish apex]

it does sound nice

[frosty light]

YUP

[lavish apex]

but i don't think i need energy management to be harder than it is in platforming for me

[raw pawn]

Anyway clawline is the best ability ever after swift step

[light swan]

heres sunsail vs regular i hope its obvious the difference

[frosty light]

oh and going straight since sk's dash doesnt disable gravity like in hk

[raw pawn]

You mean you fall for a bit while dashing?

[frosty light]

ye

caused me to get hit a bunch

[tight hull]

what do you guys think about father of flame desing?

[tight viper]

Solid

[frosty light]

...and then when i went back to hk i was like "what the fuck is this"

[raw pawn]

Fire

[frosty light]

gameplay or visually

[tight hull]

visually

[light swan]

thats unfortunate but fair

[frosty light]

hadnt picked up on it at first but i do like that they even added an extra set of limbs since its supposed to represent the same species as the burning bugs

[light swan]

i suggested steve use sunsail when he first did ||crucible|| and he loved it

[frosty light]

now seamstress just has to reveal she has those, too...

[light swan]

heres so long with sunsail, it’s very fun and nice

[frosty light]

unless shes just like... also a craw, like pinstress seems to be (lame!!!!!)

[round pebble]

I beat widow

And it only took me 700 attempts

[light swan]

i forgot how cool phase 2 was

[opaque sigil]

I definitely should've used it over shairpin for crucible

[light swan]

that one save i did was CRAZY

[opaque sigil]

by the time I realized how much using it was hurting me on the blades section I was too far in to bother dying to reset

[light swan]

attack airstalling into a double parry into a SUPER tight hairpin was cool

[tight hull]

I always thought he was like, a scarecrow or smth like that

[raw pawn]

something I find weird is that at the start of the game mossmirs take more hits to kill than mossgrubs but when you upgrade the needle they take less hits to kill than them

[lunar raptor]

“She called us daughters… Called us divine… She lied”

I love that quote

[fickle lagoon]

how long did it take you guys to 100% silksong

[raw pawn]

same

I love "come child witness our waking" too

[lunar raptor]

Over 74 hours when I got the achievement

[slim thorn]

mayhaps 50-70? cant remember, and idk if that is counting mementos
i think around 150 for all achievements

[raw pawn]

I also love what the old hearts say after you beat them

[fickle lagoon]

🥀

[lunar raptor]

To get 100% game completion achievement

[fickle lagoon]

im at 90 hours and 80% steam achievements 98% save

[raw pawn]

especially those 2

[lunar raptor]

Yeah

I love the dream/memory dialogue

[void moat]

Our claws to crush… Our claws to rule… Our claws to save them all…

[light swan]

i love how you can do this exactly ingaem

[teal ridge]

Sea of sorrow

[scarlet karma]

first 83 hrs cuz I spent too much time learning lore and flea festival

[fossil socket]

HEY this video made me drop my toast buttered side down

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-cat-cruel-angels-thesis-gif-20884308

[fossil socket]

Buttered side down origin story

[ionic stump]

Petition to change almost all yellow tool slots for blue ones

Yay chat ded

[lusty grove]

who would win: Peak Hornet (game-accurate) or Peak Knight (game-accurate)?

[ionic stump]

Peak knight

[lusty grove]

why tho

[leaden delta]

Like against each other?

[lusty grove]

yeah

[leaden delta]

tk doesn’t have that much to deal with tool spam

curvesickle ggs

[graceful oyster]

Baldur shell

[leaden delta]

4 uses ggs

[ionic stump]

Peak knight will just spam void spells

[lusty grove]

when it runs out of SOUL Hornet solos

[graceful oyster]

Ddark

[leaden delta]

how is tk GETTING soul

[lusty grove]

the Knight has nothing to counter Cross Stitch

[leaden delta]

that is the question

[graceful oyster]

Shade dash

[ionic stump]

Hear me out jump

[lusty grove]

longer cooldown than Cross Stitch

[graceful oyster]

Doesn't cost soul

[lusty grove]

ok fair

[ionic stump]

Also not attacking exists

[lusty grove]

but still

[lusty grove]

then how is it gonna win

[ionic stump]

I said not attacking when using cross stitch

Not generally

[glacial kelp]

knight has already fought hornet with parry and won

how is this a point

[graceful oyster]

Shrue

[lusty grove]

but not Hornet with magical parry + Volt Filament

[ionic stump]

Also peak knight is literally void god

[lusty grove]

Peak playable Knight

[glacial kelp]

the parry is equally as magical + volt filament is just a damage buff

[ionic stump]

Still he had beaten way worse

[leaden delta]

yea with respect cross stitch is frame 1

also is like assuming like tas or pvp

[ionic stump]

Knight with unbreakable strength quickslash and shaman solo

Also don't forget wayward compass

[leaden delta]

HOW is it soloing

im going on like hkmp logic rn

[ionic stump]

It alr has beaten hornet twice

[leaden delta]

qs isn’t even good

ur gonna hit the guy once and she will have a second of iframes

[ionic stump]

Say that to all the p5

[lusty grove]

Hornet with Cogflies Curvesickle Pale Nails Volt Filament Barbed Bracelet Weighted Belt Sawtooth Circlet solos

[lusty grove]

but not Peak playable Hornet

[ionic stump]

The humble spells

[leaden delta]

HOW are we getting soul

[lusty grove]

the humble dodge

[lusty grove]

yeah that was also my question

[ionic stump]

Farming outside of the area

[leaden delta]

we are ignoring the fact that tk has to you know GENERATE the soul

[ionic stump]

King soul exists but I won't recommend

[leaden delta]

yea a whole 2 soul per second

[glacial kelp]

knight lowkey gets soloed by flies

[lusty grove]

8 uses later (with Spell Twister) and it's gone

[leaden delta]

actually

wait I get to shill my old ass method

dmaster sshadow dash slash that shit is too fighting op

[lusty grove]

let's say all spells deal Void Damage
that's 16 damage
Hornet can heal 6 damage with a full spool
that means 10 real damage
Fractured Mask solos

[ionic stump]

The knight is canonnically weay stronger

[leaden delta]

that shit is peak op against humans

[ionic stump]

For playable

[glacial kelp]

what is this math dawg

[lusty grove]

I'm saying gameplay-wise, not lorewise

[ionic stump]

Well only one of them beat prime sun

[lusty grove]

where's the error?

[trim estuary]

We need the Rain Meadow devs on making HK/SK multiplayer because HKMP sucks bruh

[leaden delta]

also im going under void spells doing 2 hp

[ionic stump]

Gms is also strong but not as strong as the radiance

[leaden delta]

like in base hkmp settings

[glacial kelp]

no like where di the numbers come from i dont understand

[lusty grove]

Hornet can beat Absolute Radiance, there's a mod for that

[ionic stump]

There is also a mod that brings tk to pharloom so doesn't matter

[glacial kelp]

the knight just has the ability to fight her that doesnt mean others cant beat her

[wary storm]

knight, is that even a question?

[lusty grove]

8 uses of spells from a full meter + 3 Soul Vessels
Void damage always deals 2 damage
Hornet can heal twice for 3 health each with a full spool + all Spool Fragments

[ionic stump]

Also hornet will run out of drones sometimes

[trim estuary]

Hornet wins game-wise, TK wins lore-wise

[wary storm]

knight slimed hornet two (2) times in a row and killed fully ascended god, shit is nodiff

[lusty grove]

Architect:

[ionic stump]

And generally all red tools

[lusty grove]

Cogflies solo

[ionic stump]

Then no cross stitch to parry

[trim estuary]

Did you read the question

[wary storm]

humble 1 hit from a pure nail

[lusty grove]

I said game-wise
if the Knight we play as fights the Hornet we play as, who wins?

[glacial kelp]

hornet with tools solos no diff

[ionic stump]

Making her vulnerable to running her over with qs and strength

[glacial kelp]

qs is wandy rp

[wary storm]

game wise hornet has more stuff, so she's less unpredictable, can maintain distance good

[ionic stump]

Shade cloak exists

[kind tide]

i would 1v1 hornet irl

[glacial kelp]

the knight uses spells like 2 times and just dies

[wary storm]

so she can shit the screen with tools

[kind tide]

easily 1v1 hornet irl

[wary storm]

how the damage would work

[leaden delta]

Yes

[glacial kelp]

yeah thats the point how do you win against that

[wary storm]

any damage is one mask and cool stuff is 2 masks?

[wary storm]

shit the screen with charms

[trim estuary]

I feel like DDark and Shade Dash are TK’s only advantages lmao

[wary storm]

and block with baldur

[leaden delta]

Dash slash is also really good

[glacial kelp]

what charm dawg you have no soul regen

[lusty grove]

normal attacks are 1 mask, spells are 2 masks (tools depend)

[wary storm]

how is she gonna parry fart clouds

[trim estuary]

Oh yeah true

[ionic stump]

Sharp shadow will carry

[wary storm]

salubras blessing vro

[glacial kelp]

me when im benching mid fight???

[lusty grove]

ah, yes, sit on a bench mid-fight

[wary storm]

before fight dude

[kind tide]

im going to parry grand mother silk during alone time irl

[lusty grove]

what about during fight?

[glacial kelp]

we said regen the point is that you run out

[wary storm]

6 big farts would be enough

[glacial kelp]

theyd do 1 damage each

[wary storm]

who said

[ionic stump]

Not the void ones

[wary storm]

they stay on screen

[leaden delta]

usually one mask for stuff, and yea stuff like narts and void spells hit for 2 in base hkmp, so I just assume skills and nart hit for the same

[ionic stump]

Bc she takes 2 dmg from void attacks

Also add shaman

[glacial kelp]

why would shaman change the damage

[ionic stump]

And the spell twister for more

[leaden delta]

actually a decent enough question but I feel like hornet can also enough range with a lot of crests and also ping fucks this over

[ionic stump]

Bc it's literally it's power?

[wary storm]

2 to 2.4

[lusty grove]

the Knight has 9 masks
each Cogfly would deal 1 mask of damage
Hornet just has to survive until Cogflies kill the Knight in about 9 seconds

[leaden delta]

shaman only makes things bigger, not more damage

[glacial kelp]

me when i deal 0.4 masks of damage

[ionic stump]

It also adds dmg

[glacial kelp]

we are basing this off of hkmp rules

[leaden delta]

yes but im going off of the multiplayer mods

[wary storm]

yea stupid question, no really stable rules to fight for those two

[lusty grove]

that's Shade Soul only

[glacial kelp]

no its like all of them

[leaden delta]

hkmp

But yea size only increases for ki blast. That doesn’t matter because ki blast is the best spell by a lot in pvp

[ionic stump]

Also make drones detstuc table from spells bc she can also break the enemy ones

[glacial kelp]

uhhh close enough

[wary storm]

6 consecutive ddarks can really help, and fight-wise knight has phase two (shadow)

[glacial kelp]

do we really count that

[wary storm]

so he maaayyy win, cuz she wont regen silk hitting him

wait a second

[lusty grove]

it's one extra mask of damage for Descending Dark and Abyss Shriek

[glacial kelp]

hornet has passive regen

[wary storm]

she fr wont get silk

[lusty grove]

...no?

[ionic stump]

Yes also she will lose silk from void attacks

[wary storm]

yeah 3 silks

[lusty grove]

oh, yeah, Plasmium

[ionic stump]

So no spells for her

[glacial kelp]

i meant silk but yeah she can overdose too

[thorn merlin]

This game is too hard man...im thinking of switching to something easier like sekiro or ds2 or cbt

[lusty grove]

she can heal a max of 4 Silk passively

[wary storm]

yea we talked about prime and prime is her with flower

[ionic stump]

Hiveblood also exists for knight

[glacial kelp]

thats enough for a spell

[trim estuary]

snuck that last one in for fun huh

[wary storm]

flower may oneshot the knight ig

[glacial kelp]

true flower diff

[ionic stump]

Flower will just break

[trim estuary]

Flower doesn’t one-shot the knight if it has its shell

[ionic stump]

Bc it broke in hk

[glacial kelp]

who the fuck is using hiveblood…

[wary storm]

it didn't oneshat LLace tho

so debatable

[ionic stump]

Pop

[glacial kelp]

in a fight dawg be fr…

[ionic stump]

Bc you said she can use plasmium overdose

It's no different than hiveblood

[wary storm]

pretty different

[trim estuary]

It’s far better than Hiveblood

[glacial kelp]

overdose has way lower requirements than hiveblood

its also just better

[ionic stump]

It requires architect so say goodbye to silk skills

[glacial kelp]

you can use the map plasmium you dont need arch

[wary storm]

why is he telling the truth

[ionic stump]

So with no parry he can run her over

[thorn merlin]

Like I get grinding out a boss, learning its moveset, dying 25 times...but I don't wanna do that with all 500 arena gauntlets that are scattered around the map. Shits getting old

[ionic stump]

Bf the tools deal dmg

[wary storm]

oh so for knight we wont give a bench for him

and for hornet she might just run whole kingdom to overdose

[glacial kelp]

? not in the fight no obviously not

you can pre bench were assuming max soul for both

[wary storm]

yeah then lets give knight 52 masks

[ionic stump]

Also we are forgetting the biggest factor knight can use wayward compass

[trim estuary]

TK when it gets hit with five hundred curveclaws and conchcutters and instantly dies

[wary storm]

he lowkey tanks every shit hornet would throw

[ionic stump]

The humble shade cloak

[glacial kelp]

the knight when hornet fires voltvessels

[trim estuary]

The humble shade cloak cooldown

[wary storm]

one mask of damage

[ionic stump]

Easiest attack to dodge

[glacial kelp]

pollip pouch :3

[wary storm]

he tanked those electric flies in fog canyon btw

so 1 mask of damage from voltshits

[ionic stump]

If we are doing the multiplayer mod then poison deals no dmg

[trim estuary]

I think you are forgetting that Hornet is insanely fast

[leaden delta]

yeaa but we’re assuming no prep put in a room fight

[gilded nymph]

Guys im at underworks and you tell me the fourth judge was made here?!?!

[wary storm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-silksong-any-radiance-6NiqyV9zvxNIdXRe1i

[trim estuary]

Yeah, much faster than that

[glacial kelp]

no prep means no soul though no?

[leaden delta]

it’s why tk soul econ is such an issue

[ionic stump]

Knight using 1% of it's power

[leaden delta]

yea exactly

[lusty grove]

had to leave for a sec

[glacial kelp]

then how the fuck does the knight win

[trim estuary]

It doesn’t

[raw pawn]

Oh lmao it does that with any tool

[lusty grove]

I once again summon the Cogfly approach

[glacial kelp]

hornet is faster she can just sprint away

[wary storm]

humble 52 masks buzzsaw kid with purest weapon in his hands

[ionic stump]

Sharp shadow

[trim estuary]

As much as I love Sharp Shadow, it ain’t saving the Knight here

[wary storm]

i feel like im arguing with kids that would just start imagining new rules

"yeah we fight to death but im faster so i can run away"

[ionic stump]

Also the knight can parry the red tools like cog drones

[wary storm]

"yeah you know hornet can just respawn"

[glacial kelp]

as the responsible intellectual adult what say you

[kind tide]

i would just rizz hornet irl

[ionic stump]

Yes parrying also exists in normal hk

[lusty grove]

it can't parry Voltvessels

[ionic stump]

They are slow af no need

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-cute-dance-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-2885488124335295136

[ionic stump]

Also the dash

[trim estuary]

Is Clawline not just free damage during this theoretical duel

[glacial kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736153071218065508/1437058244756377661/sadness-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[opaque sigil]

powerscaling characters who fight in universe multiple times and one wins every time is very funny

[ionic stump]

Weird route jingle

[lusty grove]

yes

[trim estuary]

We’re gamescaling not canonscaling lock in

[glacial kelp]

you can get interrupted mid clawline

[lusty grove]

the Knight never fights the Hornet we play as

[ionic stump]

I mean they can just interrupt

[versed pollen]

Gameplay wise it would be very funny to consider which of tools spam and ddark is more busted lmao

[ionic stump]

I saw a video with that

[glacial kelp]

this is the whole arguement yes

[trim estuary]

Okay but I presume if you aim it right, it triggers and hits TK before it can respond

[ionic stump]

Hornet was fighting for her life knight he was just having fun

[split cape]

now we need a haunting custom scenario

[glacial kelp]

you can argue this for most attacks but yes it does outrange

[ionic stump]

Also lorewise hornet will still take double damage always

[lusty grove]

we need a mod that allows pvp between Hornet and the Knight and wait until a meta appears

[glacial kelp]

nah im getting ragebaited how are you still on this

[ionic stump]

Fair enough

[glacial kelp]

obviously the knight wins lore wise

void enemies have double health the knight takes half damage

[leaden delta]

EXACTLY

[lusty grove]

double health but lower damage modifiers

also the Knight has double the health of what?

[leaden delta]

the single thing tk has over hornet is dash slash

dash slash is the singular thing that saves tk somewhat

[ionic stump]

And the entire void arsenal

[glacial kelp]

himself it would just mean he takes half damage

[leaden delta]

which you aren’t getting

[ionic stump]

Which deals 2 dmg

[leaden delta]

because you can’t make soul

[glacial kelp]

doesnt clawline deal 2 masks

[ionic stump]

Which i am bc attacking exists

[leaden delta]

not really, anyways

[lusty grove]

Shade Soul, DDark, Abyss Shriek

[lusty grove]

you have a full meter when the fight starts

[ionic stump]

Also i can use grimmchild bc he tuff

[glacial kelp]

the idea of being able to shriek hornet is crazy

thats just a skill issue icl

[lusty grove]

idk, maybe she's a Witch spogo main

[ionic stump]

Abyss shriek would deal 3 damage

[glacial kelp]

witch pogo technically deals 2 masks

[ionic stump]

Well assuming the knight will allow it being pogoed

[lusty grove]

nah, all Void attacks deal 2 damage regardless of Magma Bell or Barbed Bracelet

[ionic stump]

And not abuss shrieking

[lusty grove]

i frames

[trim estuary]

Okay I need to see if Clawline triggers fast enough because I feel like it would be as fast and as long ranged as dashslash

[glacial kelp]

thats why its technically

[leaden delta]

Well

[lusty grove]

Clawline only deals 1 instance of damage cuz of i frames

[glacial kelp]

hollow knight fgc community where

[leaden delta]

oh we’re going on full meter? I run on empty meter cuz that’s what I did back in the day

[smoky bridge]

You ever overthink a fight so bad you die to yourself more than the enemy.

[ionic stump]

The only crest that may have a chance is either architect or shaman

[graceful oyster]

Full meter? YOMI Robot kill process?

[leaden delta]

well, I guess you get to run like water probably, so you output like 2 more ki blasts than you would otherwise

[lusty grove]

well, both of them are sitting on a bench before the fight to set their build, so Salubra's Blessing and Sylphsong would activate

[leaden delta]

you HAVE to run eater I feel

[glacial kelp]

soul eater?

[leaden delta]

yea

[glacial kelp]

are we assuming we get soul on hits?

[lusty grove]

...yes

[ionic stump]

Technically will hornet get silk on hits?

[leaden delta]

that’s what I’ve been doing, because otherwise hornet wins so hard it’s a whole as comedy skit

[glacial kelp]

oh i thought the whole point was that the knight doesnt

[lusty grove]

but Hornet can never deal enough damage to get a full spool cuz 9 hits would kill the Knight

[glacial kelp]

yeah i guess

[lusty grove]

unless she lets the Knight heal

[smoky bridge]

Cross stitch or sharpdart, I'd say, definitely volt vessel, purely to capitalise.

[lusty grove]

or uses Druid's Eyes

[glacial kelp]

whether hornet gets silk depends on how you interpret the knight but probably not right

[ionic stump]

Even with spells she will run out of silk

[smoky bridge]

Not beast, not wanderer... Hunter could put up a fight.

[lusty grove]

the Knight should work similarly to Lost Lace and Lost Garmond

[trim estuary]

She forms silk from soul so I assume she could

[glacial kelp]

yeah but summoned savior exists

[leaden delta]

I just think it would be too unfair if hornet and tk don’t get soul from hits. That’s how it works in hkmp but it wouldn’t fly here

[smoky bridge]

That's why you grab weavelight for the 4th silk heart.

[glacial kelp]

ll and lost garmond are voided regular guys its different

[lusty grove]

"if she summons Purple Cogflies, it might become a problem"
"but would you lose?"
"nah, I'd win"

[ionic stump]

It will still take 4 seconds which is free time for the knight to get soul

[glacial kelp]

they forget that he dies afterwards

[ionic stump]

Breaking the cogflies also is possible

[lusty grove]

the Knight isn't pure Void
also Pure Vessel gives SOUL

[glacial kelp]

well pure vessel obviously isnt pure as we know

[smoky bridge]

If it manages to hit the much faster Hornet with the nail.

[lusty grove]

neither is The Knight

[ionic stump]

Qs with mop and strength

[lusty grove]

and they're made of the same materials, so purity doesn't matter

[glacial kelp]

its purer though which might be different

[leaden delta]

again qs wouldnt do shit

[glacial kelp]

what is summoned savior exactly

[coarse leaf]

how on gods green earth do i get there

[leaden delta]

becuase we're running off of hkmp

[lusty grove]

pure Void

like the Collector and the Siblings

[glacial kelp]

how does it have a will

[weak depot]

Where is "there"

[ionic stump]

Shadow dash 2 qs attacks run repeat

[lusty grove]

pure Void can have a will (see: Collector)

Pale King was just wrong

[glacial kelp]

i thought collector was moulded

[coarse leaf]

un discovered parts

[crude geyser]

Chat i am on lace 2 , is this the fight that gets you to act 3 ? Or it’s another one

[ionic stump]

Also tk gets soul from almost everything

[ionic stump]

Whole different story

[smoky bridge]

That's clashable tbh.

[lusty grove]

well, yes
but Summoned Saviour was also moulded by Sula's will when he summoned it

[crude geyser]

Wdym

[weak depot]

Explore. There are levers around the place which open up pathways. There are puzzels as well

[ionic stump]

You actually need to do a quest but it requires beating lace 2

[smoky bridge]

NGL I have to say I could see it going both ways.

[ionic stump]

Depends on the players

[leaden delta]

the guys gain iframes on hit btw because its hkmp

[glacial kelp]

true actually

[leaden delta]

tk has SOMETHING but i think its like 70/30 icl

[smoky bridge]

Knight is powerful, and all, but it's also very small and comparatively slow, and Hornet gets red tools to aggressively yeet.

[lusty grove]

Void has no will of its own, it's simply moulded into the will of others
Pale King accidentally moulded the will of the Vessels when he told them they "shall seal the blinding light that plagues their dreams"

[leaden delta]

maybe 75/25

[ionic stump]

Well he isn't actually slow

[smoky bridge]

Small is good for it

Because the knight is harder to hit with like. Straight pin.

[glacial kelp]

the knight with no soul is lowkey a harder broken vessel maybe

[leaden delta]

hornet has so much more busted shit in the context of hkmp

[ionic stump]

The hornet glaze is insane

[smoky bridge]

But it's not as fast as Hornet.

[smoky bridge]

We're talking game mechanics.

[lusty grove]

the Collector was literally moulded into a will, and Summoned Saviour was moulded by Sula when it was summoned

[glacial kelp]

do you know what hkmp is dawg

[smoky bridge]

Hornet with anklets is leagues faster, and she has the tools.

[ionic stump]

Game mechanics hornet has way more bc she isn't as strong as the knight

[smoky bridge]

The knight is powerful in lore, but gameplay wise, it's just a little guy with a few massive attacks.

[glacial kelp]

im envisioning a collo like arena so it should be enough space

[ionic stump]

The humble abyss shriek

[smoky bridge]

Even then, it can still die to having random shit thrown at it.

And hornet is extremely good at throwing random shit at people.

[lusty grove]

and the Black Threads were moulded by GMS's will

[ionic stump]

It depends on the arena tbh

[lusty grove]

so were the Void Masses

[weak depot]

Literal god btw

[ionic stump]

If it's small then it will be harder for the knight

[smoky bridge]

That's only post factum

[glacial kelp]

true if its a god why does it die to a nail

[ionic stump]

If it's like cof there is plenty of space for the knight to dodge

[smoky bridge]

Au contraire.

[glacial kelp]

i have a couple of those in my house

[ionic stump]

Actually depends on many factors

[smoky bridge]

The wider it is the more time Hornet has to go and throw ten billion random items around.

[ionic stump]

And the bigger dodgeable space

[lusty grove]

Craggler arena is easy Hornet win

[smoky bridge]

If it is very small, and both players start with full soul/silk, then the knight can just shriek/DD a bunch.

[steep acorn]

heya

[leaden delta]

yea i feel like we havent been like considering the elephant enough forsome reason

[ionic stump]

Also the knight can parry most of throwable attacks

[lusty grove]

which elephant?

[leaden delta]

like wtf is tk doing against fox lasers like hronet just gets to do that shit

[ionic stump]

Like the curvisicles

[steep acorn]

the one in the room

[smoky bridge]

Woe, silkshot spam be upon ye.

[leaden delta]

hornet's spacing across the map and getting 2 lasers per short hop that shit is mega op

[smoky bridge]

:v

Tbh still dodgeable.

[ionic stump]

And there is another problem, limited red tool uses

Unless you use architect

[smoky bridge]

No, you lose out on the heal, which vastly outperforms the knights.

[leaden delta]

actually wait yea archi silkshot is broken

[ionic stump]

But if you use architect that means no silk skill so no parry

[smoky bridge]

So it's a mixed idea.

[ionic stump]

So the knight can rush you

[leaden delta]

how much does it cover

[icy crow]

Would you hug Grandmother Silk for ten dollars

[smoky bridge]

Could be good for bullshit, but it's also one of the slower crests.

[ionic stump]

For me it depends on the arena , the builds

[ionic stump]

I would do that for free

[smoky bridge]

I would pay her to stab me

[leaden delta]

i wonder if

[untold dune]

idk maybe for 11

[leaden delta]

hold on let me make a build

[icy crow]

What about twenty dollars

[untold dune]

hmmmmm okay

[unkempt steeple]

Insane to keep the druid's eyes like that when in late game most damage is double damage

[ionic stump]

Forgot this tool existed

[smoky bridge]

Fuck it, architect overdose

[unkempt steeple]

"Take four masks of damage for two strands of silk"

[smoky bridge]

It's actually passable for Beast Crest face tanking.

[leaden delta]

like here's my first thought

[ionic stump]

Still minus one red tool to use aggressively

[leaden delta]

idk if baldur is any good i have to think abt it more but

[ionic stump]

I would have changed many things for me

[smoky bridge]

Most realistic scenario:
The two set up to fight, both continually try to tweak their builds to counter the other, eventually they forget what they were trying to fight about.

[leaden delta]

stalwart is op as fuck i completely forgot abt it so its there. and you try dash slashes first but you can go in and probably get a hit

[hearty wren]

My little brother made a map

[smoky bridge]

The praap

[ionic stump]

Peak

[leaden delta]

and eater is ultra important there

thorns would be good if not for the fact that hornet has 5 million tool stat

[ionic stump]

I would have switched sth for twister

[ionic stump]

Real life bug dying pose

Ok let's change subject bc we are not getting anywhere

[graceful oyster]

Y'all are still on this

[ionic stump]

Which game has the better npcs?

[graceful oyster]

Silksong next question

[opaque sigil]

mio

[graceful oyster]

It's not even close

[ionic stump]

Ye i also agree on that

[hearty wren]

Elderbug

[ionic stump]

Sherma alone is better than many hk npcs

[hearty wren]

[rocky jolt]

this game is filled with bugs

[opaque sigil]

elderbug sucks

[ionic stump]

However quirell is still my goat

[tawdry sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-hollow-knight-sherma-silksong-sherma-death-gif-6060867535646958610

[graceful oyster]

I think Skong's NPCs are "better" than Mio's in that there are more and they're a bit more well developed, but Mio's are great

[hearty wren]

Which game has better late game bossess

[subtle lynx]

My god attempting GMS while infected is so annoying

[ionic stump]

Sk for me

[graceful oyster]

Mio v Hollow Knight is a difficult choice though

[graceful oyster]

Mio, next question

[subtle lynx]

The runback is so tedious and you also have to watch the rock falling cut scene every time you die

[opaque sigil]

gms runback is very boring yes

[hearty wren]

What's mio

[subtle lynx]

We didn't have to challenge the radiance every time we came back

[ionic stump]

It's annoying bc the cutscene is not shippable unlike radiance

[subtle lynx]

She just spawned why cant GMS do the same

[ionic stump]

Even though it was peak

[rocky jolt]

brother that saved like 3 jumps

[graceful oyster]

New space/robot metroidvania that recently came out.
Has more of a platformer focus.
I think it has higher quality gameplay than both Hollow Knights and the story is amazing

[opaque sigil]

they may not have expected people to die to gms enough to need to streamline it but uh yeah they could've

[raw pawn]

I wonder if he still gets scared if you call bell beast from here

[scarlet karma]

memories in orbit

[hearty wren]

Which game has better mechanics

[ionic stump]

Sk

[scarlet karma]

sk

[hearty wren]

That's obvious though wrong question

[subtle lynx]

Yeah which is insane they didn't do it for GMS because it would have saved much more time

[rocky jolt]

mio bro

[scarlet karma]

mio better visuals tho

[graceful oyster]

Artstyle is shaded 3D models. Game is fully 3D but your character movement is confined to 2D

[raw pawn]

aww come on dude

[graceful oyster]

Mio

[opaque sigil]

I still can't believe this game is real

[hearty wren]

Wow

[ionic stump]

Is it the one that you are on a giant spaceship?

[opaque sigil]

yes

[ionic stump]

Ok i heard about it

It's pretty good

Thought i still don't know what to play after i finally finish sk

I am stuck on lost lace

[graceful oyster]

Is it not obvious

[rocky jolt]

mio bro

[ionic stump]

Tbf it looks like a giant city

[opaque sigil]

mio's progression and world design is so good, honestly it maybe even tops hk

[ionic stump]

I would try either that or dead cells

[graceful oyster]

The... giant city region does look like a giant city. Yes.

[ionic stump]

Not like a spaceship

[graceful oyster]

They are bundled and you can buy both at a 10% discount

[graceful oyster]

It's a REALLY big spaceship

[ionic stump]

Ok

[graceful oyster]

Basically an artificial world

[ionic stump]

I will probably try dead cells first wanted to try it long ago

[ionic stump]

Like the matrix?

[violet glacier]

Tfw you reach the end Silksong's pantheon 5 and the finaly boss is genuinely little ghost and you know you're so unbelievably fucked

[ionic stump]

John hollow

[opaque sigil]

no it's just a giant spaceship with its own regions and shit

[graceful oyster]

Artificial as in mechanically engineered to behave in space as an independent dwelling.
Not artificial as in simulation

[ionic stump]

Nah don't spoil if i want to get it ( i will sometime) i will explore it myself

[opaque sigil]

dw that's not a big spoiler

[graceful oyster]

It's not spoilers, that's how the game is advertised

About as much of a spoiler as saying Silksong takes place in Pharloom

[coarse leaf]

was first sinner supposed to be hard

[opaque sigil]

it's like saying hollow knight is in caves

[ionic stump]

I smh beat her first try

She is a harder widow

[opaque sigil]

it's gonna depend on when you find her

[rocky jolt]

first sinner is just a glorified dream boss

[coarse leaf]

easier grandmother silk

[ionic stump]

She was pretty fun boss

[opaque sigil]

fs is harder than gms

[ionic stump]

Yes

[ionic stump]

Nah

She prepares you for gms

Gms stole many previous bosses attacks

[coarse leaf]

i keep dying BUT im rushing it

but people glaze her likew hell

[tight hull]

very funny bug lol

[ionic stump]

What did you expect game is full of them

[ionic stump]

Yeah don't rush her

[untold dune]

"hornet, how are you doing that?"
"i-i dont know, lois, im scared"

[smoky bridge]

Who is asking her.

[final tapir]

team cherry is hiding this from us hornet can do moonwalk 😭

[smoky bridge]

Who is taking the role of lois

[coarse leaf]

is pahse 3 of her where she does the animation

[ionic stump]

Lace ig

[smoky bridge]

Whomst. First Sinner?

[subtle lynx]

I DID IT

[fossil socket]

GG

[ionic stump]

Final phase is when she does the fake death

[subtle lynx]

Only lost 1 hp

[ionic stump]

Like widow

[subtle lynx]

It wasn't that hard once I stopped being stupid

[coarse leaf]

WDYM

[ionic stump]

Oh mb

[subtle lynx]

I always run to walls with her claw attack thinking I didn't need to jump

[smoky bridge]

I should look for how many bosses in this game have a takeout.

*fakeout

[subtle lynx]

Or would always use clawline with horizontal pin attack

[ionic stump]

I mean she sunmons sherma

[subtle lynx]

You can just jump regularly

Oh the credits have special sound effects at the end

With this ending

[ionic stump]

Also charged attack is good

[subtle lynx]

There's wood sounds

[smoky bridge]

The Last Judge explosion,
The widow fake death,
Big Mommy Silk doing the fall...

[subtle lynx]

Father of the flame also has an explosion

[ionic stump]

It's way smaller

[smoky bridge]

That one pisses me off purely because it's an insult to the formula.

[crude geyser]

I Hope the dlc gives us more combat applicable yellow tools

[subtle lynx]

It's still an explosion...

[smoky bridge]

FotF does nothing good.

[ionic stump]

I hate fotf

[smoky bridge]

Pissing me off
12 hits to break lantern lookin ass

[subtle lynx]

It could have been good

[ionic stump]

It's just a silk less boss

[subtle lynx]

But it's so jank

[smoky bridge]

Architects entire thing is so broken.

[subtle lynx]

It should have been a pogo boss fight

[ionic stump]

Architect crest is the strongest crest

[smoky bridge]

You have to switch off or do some weird bullshit by side slashing at the lanterns.

[ionic stump]

The pogo can be weird

[subtle lynx]

Special credits

[ionic stump]

But use drill

[smoky bridge]

It doesn't work on FoTF

[subtle lynx]

Didn't know you got a special menu

[ionic stump]

Oh fu

[smoky bridge]

It deals like one third of the damage.

Because FoTF is not an enemy. It is an object.

[ionic stump]

Now i need to make a new save just to beat gms cursed bc i forgot

[smoky bridge]

And objects cancel the standard drill mode and swap onto quick pogo.

Somehow dying to something that is an object is even more insulting.

[ionic stump]

I also hate the wispfires

[coarse leaf]

first sinner was easy hahahahah

[subtle lynx]

I also shouldn't probably have done this ending while doing a hunter crest only run

[coarse leaf]

type shit

[subtle lynx]

Since I couldn't get the second upgrade

[coarse leaf]

FYM ACCXEPT

[ionic stump]

She gives her power willingly

[smoky bridge]

I'm glad the burning bugs decide to go brr

Once you flame the father

[ionic stump]

You get a silk ability from that

[smoky bridge]

It is kinda bad.

[coarse leaf]

??RAELLY

[ionic stump]

I never considered using them tbf

[smoky bridge]

No, the enemies in the area.

They self immolate.

[ionic stump]

The enemies are annoying

[subtle lynx]

Just in case you English speakers didn't know, this is a girl

[smoky bridge]

((it leaves you a fun, easy, safe path through the thicket, for the rasher wuest))

[ionic stump]

As a silk skill it's a bit weird

[ionic stump]

Still prefer blasted steps

Still hate this quest

[coarse leaf]

how did grand mother silk birth all these people

😭

[ionic stump]

She didn't

[coarse leaf]

who did then

[ionic stump]

She ascended them from normal bugs

[subtle lynx]

She didn't birth anyone actually

[tawdry valley]

She also did not do that

[smoky bridge]

Naah, is easy.

You bypass a lot of stuff

The only downside is you gotta weasel your way through one trap room in underworks

[ionic stump]

I mean blasted steps with fay down it's not that bad

[midnight jasper]

I surprisingly defeated a ton of bosses today

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but I keep getting sniped by the funny ricoshot buge

[ionic stump]

Yes the world underworks was the one i didn't want to hear

[midnight jasper]

Raging Conchfly, Father of the Flames, Voltwyrm, Broodmother, and Savage Beastfly 2

I'm going to go for Groal the Great tommorow

[ionic stump]

The goat himself

Absolutely hate him

But Bilewater is cool ig

[tawdry valley]

Grandmother silk created the weavers from ordinary bugs.
The weavers eventually imprisoned her.
At some point between/after those things happened, the citadel was built. The citadel and surrounding areas collect and process silk, most of the residents of pharloom are ensnared in a silk curse as a result of their heritage. Whiteward has a little lore on this

[ionic stump]

Not that bad as people said it was i find sands of karrak worse

[slender juniper]

Dont rely on translations for gender of characters in some languages they them pronouns are impossible

[tawdry valley]

You enter pharloom as GMS begins to awake from her cage. Prior to this, she has been hunting down weavers and weaver decendants - you included

[ionic stump]

Isn't lace the one who actually freed us with her butterflies?

[slender juniper]

Gms is fake mothet reveal

[ionic stump]

Bc of her mommy issues?

[balmy wraith]

its a common theory

[lusty grove]

am I the only one who unironically likes Voltvyrm?

[smoky bridge]

Yes. She doesn't want horney to become more important to GMS than she is.

[balmy wraith]

the one that makes most sense

[slender juniper]

Highly theorized,it would be insane plot armor just for a random silkfly to land of the cage

[ionic stump]

We turned into sk lore

[ionic stump]

Mommy issues

[smoky bridge]

Do you think she thought Hornet died in the fall?

[balmy wraith]

lace issue

[slender juniper]

If lace didnt send the fly hornet has plot armor better than naruto

[balmy wraith]

she prob knew she would survive the fall

[ionic stump]

She probably wished for it

[smoky bridge]

Also good god hornet, collapsing the bridge might have been the single stupidest solution.

[slender juniper]

Umm,silly theres no fall damage

[smoky bridge]

"hmm, yes, let me cast myself into this extremely deep chasm"

[coarse leaf]

WHAT QUEST DO I DO FOR ACT 3 OMG

[smoky bridge]

"and Land god knows where, and almost get nailed in the head with me own needle"

[balmy wraith]

all

[coarse leaf]

fal;se

[slender juniper]

Balm for the wounded

Commonly missed,if activates by talking to sherma in songclave

Talk to your npcs they trigger quests

[balmy wraith]

oh those are completed quest

[smoky bridge]

Did you donate.

[lusty grove]

I got Beastfly skip first try

[ionic stump]

Is it the one that you go save him in whiteward?

[balmy wraith]

i didnt even know you could check your completed quests

[slender juniper]

Do you genuenly think somebody could have THAT MANY active quests lmao

[smoky bridge]

I too was briefly shocked.

But realised cause they had no trackers displayed under em.

No pips, no bars.

[balmy wraith]

i mean look at speedrunners, they do whatever they want to break the game

[slender juniper]

Speedruners actually dont break the game that much

[lusty grove]

also got Aknid skip

[slender juniper]

The most speedrunners break the game is early act 3 far fields,groal and splinter skip

[balmy wraith]

theres prob a challenge to stack the most quests goin on rn

[coarse leaf]

i didnt do some donations

[smoky bridge]

Splinter skip is hardly "breaking the game"you skip like. One platforming challenge and the boss.

[slender juniper]

I dont bother with that I just pogo

[smoky bridge]

Donate. You gotta.

[coarse leaf]

???? why

[slender juniper]

Youre missing second songclave don

And balm for the wounded

[coarse leaf]

so i talk to sherma???

[smoky bridge]

INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

Sherma does not hang out with broke

[coarse leaf]

where is that

[slender juniper]

Why didnt you in the first place

[coarse leaf]

i mean ithink i did

[lusty grove]

Bell Beast down

[coarse leaf]

i must have forgot

[smoky bridge]

Sherma will splishy splashy in the spa, until you donate to Songclave... I think one time.

Unless two.

[coarse leaf]

ohhhh she is in songclave

[midnight jasper]

Which boss should I beat next

[slender juniper]

I wanted to finnamy get sub 2 today but zi got distracted by hades 2

[smoky bridge]

He*

[coarse leaf]

groalllll

[midnight jasper]

Just say the boss name because I don't want spoilers that much

[smoky bridge]

Sherma is a Whole ass man.

[balmy wraith]

sherma a man?

[slender juniper]

HOW DARE YOU MISGENDER MY BUGS

[coarse leaf]

damnnnnn i love that lwk

[low field]

whatchya talking about?

[midnight jasper]

Already have that on my list

[coarse leaf]

sherma a girl or boy

[midnight jasper]

Anything else?

[low field]

boy

[balmy wraith]

sherma a bug

[coarse leaf]

first sinner

[lusty grove]

Voltvyrm

[midnight jasper]

Why did you capitalize "Whole"

[slender juniper]

Birl

[midnight jasper]

Did that

[slender juniper]

[smoky bridge]

Sherma is stated to be a man. At like. One point in the game.

[midnight jasper]

Also did this

[lusty grove]

then Watcher

[smoky bridge]

Not sure if it's even a child

[midnight jasper]

Oh

[slender juniper]

Ik its nust not thay serious

[smoky bridge]

I don't wanna assume

It might be a grown ass man.

[lusty grove]

Sherma is a guy anyway

[smoky bridge]

?

[coarse leaf]

im talkinmg to sherma and im not getting a quest

[graceful oyster]

The grizzly bear is huge and wild
It has devoured the infant child
The infant child is unaware
It has been eaten by the bear

[smoky bridge]

Why word it like dat

[coarse leaf]

u cinokmeted tgese'

[slender juniper]

I dont speak gibberish sorry

[lusty grove]

fell the wrong way and almost lost a Stell Soul to the lava before Deep Docks

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[graceful oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356584470916104222/1478694447205322907/image.png?ex=69a95505&is=69a80385&hm=822981a892a6c21b47bc975b2c8416bf9400066c173be3db408a1ca657b48482&

[coarse leaf]

i completed these

i mean i didnt

[smoky bridge]

They don't look completed.

[coarse leaf]

sorry

i meant i didnt

[smoky bridge]

For why

[coarse leaf]

wdym

[smoky bridge]

Why not

[coarse leaf]

i mean i need help getting to act 3 AND im confused

[smoky bridge]

Do we quests.

[dusk wadi]

phantom and lace duo fight i neeed itt

[smoky bridge]

You gotta hit some quota of the quests.

[unkempt steeple]

I wonder what was the purpose of the cut phantom clones

[slender juniper]

The what

[smoky bridge]

Buildup to reveal maybe.

[dusk wadi]

also why is phantom never talked about shes so cool

[smoky bridge]

There were supposed to be more failed GMS children.

[slender juniper]

You mean the white sprites?theyre used

[smoky bridge]

Apparently.

[coarse leaf]

do more quest?

[lusty grove]

got Swift Step

[smoky bridge]

Yas

[coarse leaf]

so i need to donate BUTTTT i need help getting more shards

[slender juniper]

Not snards

Songclave

[unkempt steeple]

No the organ sleepers

[lusty grove]

zero damage taken to Lace

[unkempt steeple]

idk why I called them phantom clones lol

[coarse leaf]

huh

[lusty grove]

that implies there's a first

anyway, is Lace in 18 minutes a good time?

[slender juniper]

Citadel town

[untold dune]

mio

[slender juniper]

Yeah

[untold dune]

very

[slender juniper]

Now just get cloak fast

[unkempt steeple]

the first one definitly coral-like, the second is kinda of a stretch but looks like it has a head like nyleth's and idk what the hell the final one is supposed to look like

[slender juniper]

And get good at the chorus skip

[unkempt steeple]

triple organ sleepers fight in silksong godhome

[lusty grove]

Chorus Skip?

[slender juniper]

Fourth chorus

[untold dune]

imagine if these guys show up in lifeblood tower

[lusty grove]

ik

there's a way to skip it?

[untold dune]

yeah it doesnt lock u in the arena so u can just, like, run out

[lusty grove]

how?

[slender juniper]

https://youtu.be/e4N8aWOF_Sw?is=SzHfHmlGYhbyiu2g

[coarse leaf]

sdo i have to do balm for the wounded for act 3???

[untold dune]

yea

[lusty grove]

alr thx

if I fail I just alt-f4, right?

[fossil socket]

Hey ive seen that Monor guy before on discord

[slender juniper]

No,its slower just get silk from attacking the boss

[slender juniper]

I dont know them

[coarse leaf]

welp how do i start the quest

[slender juniper]

Talk to sherma and wait