sk-discussion

[smoky bridge]

Tbh I personally kinda... Don't care that red tool spam can be powerful?

[stable mica]

i think they had little to no testers

[wary storm]

and testers played the game one similar way without intent to break the game

[smoky bridge]

Did they fix circlet yet? That was broken.

[wary storm]

still broken

[slender juniper]

When you are developing a game for so long ,you kinda forget its not made for you but players,so long development cycles indies mostly arent balanced

[stable mica]

u cant fix circlet

[grand adder]

You can stack shards with bundles. Its still too broken

[slender juniper]

Dont fix circlet please I need it for speedruning

[glacial kelp]

wdym broken too strong?

they buffed it which is cool

[grand adder]

It does require some bit of skill to use imo

[quartz gulch]

Fix circlet and give it a different sound.

[wary storm]

not cool when you melt bosses in 10 seconds

[subtle skiff]

HK wasnt balanced either for anything that isnt basegame, if anything theyve vastly improved when it comes to balancing stuff

[grand adder]

Lowkey

[wary storm]

without significant risk, i am okay with that 1hp charm from HK

[winter saddle]

hollow knight in retrospective needed insane balancing to the charms

[quartz gulch]

Just don't use it??? How the fuck is this a valid complaint?

[grand adder]

We could just notcuse op crest like architect if its too op

[glacial kelp]

circlet does basically the same damage as a nail slash its just marginally faster

[subtle skiff]

Hollow knight would need a full charm rework, balancing doesnt fix shit there anymore its too far gone

[slender juniper]

Its barbed bracelt of hk

[wary storm]

there could be something good instead of that broken shit

[quartz gulch]

Exactly, if you don't like it, DON'T USE IT!

[winter saddle]

which isnt happening, because the game is done with updates

[glacial kelp]

like if you do the math the difference is fairly marginal with a high skill ceiling

i think circlet is fine

[quartz gulch]

So use something instead then? There are other good tools.

[wary storm]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[quartz gulch]

It also is incredibly annoying for platforming.

[glacial kelp]

this is not that much faster than actually just hitting it normally lmao

[quartz gulch]

Literally a basic enemy dude, wtf does this prove?

[winter saddle]

well if you dont like playing the game normally without insane power and insta kill tools, you could also, not play it

[wary storm]

basic enemy

alr

[quartz gulch]

The same can be achieved with Witch nuke and beast.

[winter saddle]

yes thats a fair complaint, nerf it too

[glacial kelp]

like it is definitely faster but this mf is standing still

[bleak flicker]

hi zads

[subtle skiff]

Yeah i also see no real reason for it anyway, base game is fine balancing wise because it doesnt matter, the normal playerbase doesnt spend enough time in godhome to really complain and challenge runners are used to it from 9 years of the game existing

[glacial kelp]

and its maybe like a couple seconds diff tops even with low gear

[quartz gulch]

By definition. Yes, it is stronger and a boss equivalent strength-wise to HK bosses (Mawlek for example). But in the end, it's still isn't supposed to take as long as a fucking boss.

[winter saddle]

its also incredibly time consuming for most people to get u strength

[stable pilot]

I'm starting to think sawtooth circlet is placebo

[glacial kelp]

now what was actually broken was pre nerf thread storm

[wary storm]

yeah thats why guy on gif killed that thing in 3 seconds, and will kill bosses in 15-20

[glacial kelp]

its still faster via animation cancels

[quartz gulch]

Idc if this is sarcasm, but genuinly, how can you be an idiot to complain about having mastered something and being good with it? You can't calculate the maximum damage output and then say something is broken because of that.

[stable pilot]

Yeah but the difference is pretty minor

[glacial kelp]

yeah thats my point

[winter saddle]

if something can insta kill anything, and its easy to perform, it should be nerfed, it is NOT hard to spam red tools

[glacial kelp]

and you need a lot of practice to fully get the max ev

[quartz gulch]

Still no issue. Besides the fact that the circlet isn't even early game.

[glacial kelp]

this was true for pre nerf thread storm

red tools consume resources

[fickle siren]

HI

[winter saddle]

resources you get from every enemy in the game

[strange knot]

Hello

[quartz gulch]

Is it easy to perform? Because I can just kill this enemy normally and it still isn't very hard. So what's your point then? Does that mean everything needs to have PV moveset or what?

[winter saddle]

and is stackable in bundles

[quartz gulch]

Nope.

[glacial kelp]

you cannot seriously tell me that people do not hate shard grinding

[quartz gulch]

Yes, I am being petty.

[strange knot]

U get shards from every enemy tho

[winter saddle]

i dont enjoy it but it seriously isnt hard

[glacial kelp]

the trade off for making the game easier is grinding resources

[quartz gulch]

There is a yellow tools to help you, and also just don't tools spam. Or use the rosary cannon.

[glacial kelp]

is that not valid its like magic in elden ring

[stable pilot]

Beast crest needs a nerf

[winter saddle]

yes but you dont do 9041 dps normally, you're assuming only base enemies are the measurement

[strange knot]

Btw grind doesn’t make anything more balanced

[fickle siren]

seems balanced

[glacial kelp]

true but it’s a disincentive

[subtle skiff]

I mean you can make an argument for architect being unbalanced but i dont really see the biggest problem with it, other options are completely viable

[regal isle]

Architect is carried through toolspam

Quite literally the autopilot crest

[glacial kelp]

tools would be fine if we removed the uninteractive ones like tacks and flies

[strange knot]

It’s genuinely fun without tool spam

[stable pilot]

I like playing architect without tools except the pogo

Why is the pogo angled so weirdly

[winter saddle]

crest you play only for groal the great

[glacial kelp]

i need illusion here to argue

[regal isle]

Pogo shouldve been a weak delvers ngl

[light swan]

the pogo is the funnest part of toolless architect

[regal isle]

Exactly

[subtle skiff]

Hks balancing was bad because most charms were shit and you really only had like 7 or whatever that are actually good, meaning you basically had no options that werent meta, sk doesnt have this problem

[glacial kelp]

HOW the hell do you come as soon as i say your name

[light swan]

never insult archipogo

NEVER insult archipogo

[leaden delta]

oh tools

[regal isle]

Hold up i have never seen it travel that fast

Or that long of a distance

[stable pilot]

Yes tools

[leaden delta]

eh. I think the games’s more fun without them but

[light swan]

man these people don’t even know how archipogo works

[regal isle]

im uncultured

[leaden delta]

Well

[light swan]

you can charge it up

[strange knot]

I’m getting into architect lately, pogo can be fun but not always at least for me

[light swan]

charged version deals 2x damage and has crazy range

[regal isle]

Like needle strike by holding down?

[stable pilot]

You charge it and you use it

[light swan]

literally a sniper rifle

[regal isle]

I see

[stable pilot]

And pray you calculate everything correctly

[light swan]

yes, also architects das attack is like that too

[regal isle]

I mean its js a 45* angle

[light swan]

which is why it’s so fun

[regal isle]

I see

[leaden delta]

Oh I didn’t know it also did it on da. or maybe I did I can’t remember

[light swan]

the timing is what matters but if you can predict the movement and slam dunk them as the enemy moves into your sniper rifle is so fun

[stable pilot]

I prefer my click being instant

[worthy lintel]

Just beat absrad in Silksong, tbh I think it's easier than in HK even without shade cloak

[regal isle]

I gotta experiment with arch more

[light swan]

it’s legit a sniper rifle for a pogo

[stable pilot]

True though

[regal isle]

Does it do a ton of damage tho not counting barbed?

[split cape]

Gem alert

[subtle skiff]

I agree, more importantly theyre tied to a limited resource so i basically instantly stopped using them lmao, grinding shards for a boss or whatever seems pointless im not doing it

[light swan]

well charged deals 2x, regular deals 1x

[stable pilot]

Just ate a guava, I love guavas

[winter saddle]

i dont understand why both hk games have this issue where permanent items are either straight dogshit or the most broken, unfair, unbalanced op shi youll ever see

[strange knot]

I kinda want to try to use volt pogos in combat but that doesn’t seem possible

[subtle skiff]

I dont see a problem with it in Silksong

[strange knot]

Or pimp pogos

[regal isle]

Shii alr

[stable pilot]

Guys I think I softlocked myself in my rando

[winter saddle]

its mainly red tools in silksong, not the other kinds

[hearty wren]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dance-bounce-bouncing-jump-gif-27487642

[light swan]

so yea architect pogo is crazy awesome

i don’t mind if it’s not for each and every person but at least acknowledge how cool it is

[hearty wren]

Just started deltarune and this guy is just crazy

[regal isle]

I like witchs crest anims tho

[torpid schooner]

L opinion

[light swan]

witch happens to have the best pogo in the game

[regal isle]

big J

[strange knot]

Witch my beloved

[subtle skiff]

Again the problem in hk is that you have no options because everything else was shit, in sk everything else is also perfectly viable, architect tool spam is basically like summoning in ER where you can just choose not to do it but it exists as an option to dynamically let the player adjust game difficulty

[winter saddle]

its larp clown aura monster from undertale 2

[light swan]

guys

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

this gif is possible on every crest except for shaman and wanderer

[silver topaz]

Solve y^x=x^y

[quartz gulch]

Not literally every single one. Yes, I am being petty af, but in the end it still isn't EVERY single one.

And what the fuck is up with these complaints??? Shard grinding is bad, but grinding geo was never a problem apparently. Rosaries are too expensive, but at the same time I don't remember geo being easy to get. While yes, every enemy drops it, it isn't just thrown at you how people make it seem it is.

[grand adder]

Charms exist cro

[light swan]

toolspam isnt architect specific

[regal isle]

Y = 1, x = 1

[hearty wren]

Chaos Is bro's attire

[winter saddle]

i dont understand why they didnt just add difficulty settings instead of doing this, i doubt anyone wouldve complained, and surely it wouldnt be that hard

[subtle skiff]

Yes and most of them are bad

[grand adder]

Geo grinding is actually easy it just gets boring overtime

[subtle skiff]

I dont see why they should, this is a perfectly fine route to go

[hearty wren]

9 hypnosis

[stable pilot]

X=y

X=0

[subtle skiff]

This doesnt actually hinder you as a player in any way lol, just dont tool spam if you think it makes the game too easy

[silver topaz]

Ok lets say x and y cant equal 1 or 0

[regal isle]

X and y = 2

[grand adder]

This game is not made for babies son. Thats why theres no difficulty

[silver topaz]

And y is not equal to x

[smoky bridge]

Wyn? You could just give it a global cooldown

[knotty tusk]

guys guys imagine sea of sorrow dont drop but we getting brainwashed and we were actually in a dream about silksong and wake up

[frosty light]

my mom told me garmond is from pharloom bay....

[hearty wren]

Doesn't equation have infinite solution (2,4)

[winter saddle]

this is assuming im bad at the game, which im not, im arguing for a difficulty system instead of red tools being so broken

[frosty light]

...😭😭

[smoky bridge]

Anyways.
I just don't think the game should be super duper hard.

[subtle skiff]

Ok but why

[hearty wren]

(4,2)

[quartz gulch]

I disagree on the charms though. While there are the obvious favourites, I also use things like Steady Body, Deep Focus, Sharp Shadow, Dash master, Sprintmaster and more. Even the Grubberfly's Elegy.

[strange knot]

1. I found geo grinding bad and annoying bc I couldn’t find th guy who buys stuff
2. Also I just pointed that out, I didn’t even know what the argument about lol

[smoky bridge]

Not without a difficulty system.

[stable pilot]

How do I do this with crystal heart and cyclone slash

[knotty tusk]

wrong channel

[regal isle]

you dont

[grand adder]

They could balance the tools? And if you want difficulty settings so hard (not talking about you) you might aswell quit the game

[hearty wren]

dy/dx or what

[frosty light]

well no because beast only gets the blue vesticrest

[quartz gulch]

Not aimed at you specifically, I'm just complaining about complainers.

[frosty light]

#debunked

[knotty tusk]

who said no? hes suppossed to say this in hk discussion

[grand adder]

The game isnt made for people who cant handle certain parts of the game. If you cant handle it dont complain

[subtle skiff]

Theyre mostly fine for regular overworld gameplay because it just doesnt really matter what you use, once you start challenge running you pretty much get locked into meta, there are simply no other viable options

[smoky bridge]

That's a stupid take.

[winter saddle]

yes im saying that, tools should be balanced, and to make up for people who would prefer to have an easier experience, add an easier difficulty

[strange knot]

Pollup pouch does basically nothing

[grand adder]

Geo grinding is easy wdym

[smoky bridge]

So is rosary grinding. Arguably it's easier cause you have a way to bank rosaries.

[quartz gulch]

So is rosaries. Bonegrave has the Shaman/Bine Bottom bench next to it and you can just walk back and fourth. Ocasionally the big guy with the strings can even show up.

However once you reach the citadel you just have to kill some enemies every now and then and you're basically set.

[grand adder]

Why should they? If you cant handle the difficulty mod the game or just stop playing the game and watch gameplays instead

[smoky bridge]

People just refuse to bank they shit, then they get slapped 2x in a row and drop a small fortune.

[quartz gulch]

I have the two string options maxed out and can't do anything with my remaining 6000+ rosaries, so what do I do then?

[subtle skiff]

I still just do not see the issue with red tools lol

[quartz gulch]

Cannon?

[regal isle]

Waste it all on cannon

[strange knot]

I grinded 3000 geo from the dumb guy before false knight. Without black spells and with like 2nd nail

[smoky bridge]

What are you spending them on atp

[quartz gulch]

There is no issue.

[grand adder]

For me. Geo grinding is better since you get 1 or 2k geos based on which trials you do per 5 minutes

[winter saddle]

why stop people from playing the game, it wouldnt affect you at all as long as you play the same difficulty or steel soul, and it wouldnt allow for an unbalanced system to just exist in the main difficulties

[grand adder]

Early game geos? In early game geos arent that impoetant so idk why you grinded so hard for 3k

[smoky bridge]

People just wanna feel elitist. :smonk:

[quartz gulch]

I have every shop bought out. I love rosary cannon, but it isn't really usefull mostly, so I only ever spend them when I am too lazy to farm shards.

[smoky bridge]

HK wasn't even a hard game lmao.

[strange knot]

I got lost, so I grinded for the lantern

[quartz gulch]

P5 is hard, but sure.

[strange knot]

P5 sucks

[grand adder]

Like i said you can mod the game to make it easier and if you cant handle the difficulty stop playing the game or try to find tutorials or tips. I forgot to put the tutorial and tips part

[smoky bridge]

P5 is optional xd

[quartz gulch]

NKG has such a lame theme when they could've just stuck to the original. It even kinda makes the fight harder for me, since the rhythm is just really off. Also, FUCK SLY.

[subtle skiff]

Difficulty options are implemented like shit most of the time, i very much prefer letting users individually change the difficulty like summoning in er( even though that also has its problems game-design wise ) or red-tool spam

[light swan]

oh right but beast still gets really damn close

[quartz gulch]

🏆

[winter saddle]

i understand what you're saying but wouldnt it be better for more options for people to enjoy, dont forget that people dont only play on pc, console players are unable to mod

[light swan]

pollip pouch does not help cert much

[grand adder]

But in all seriousness the games difficulty is not that hard unless were talm abt pure vessel nkg and absrad then yes but theyre totally optional

[smoky bridge]

Tbh I like the power trip element of just dumping your entire wallet on some fool.

I refuse to engage with brood mother.

[slender juniper]

"Sharpdart is so op" sybau and look at abbys shriek

[smoky bridge]

She gets the wallet

[grand adder]

Look up tutorial and tips on your phone. If you have a console you def have a phone

[smoky bridge]

Random bullshit go.

[rocky lotus]

Because team cherry is stubborn and doesnt want those in their games

[strange knot]

Anyone ever said that sharp dart too op?

[quartz gulch]

"•••• is so op" stfu you're just good at the game, now scram. (not directed at you)

[smoky bridge]

I hate Brood mother sm

[subtle skiff]

I mean ddark very much is broken

[smoky bridge]

Like. On principle. My most hated fight.

[winter saddle]

i get it but its nice to be able to choose options if you want to focus on the world, missions, and story rather than bosses

[slender juniper]

And abbys shriek

[smoky bridge]

Ddark is mainly broken cause of the obscene I frame count.

[winter saddle]

yh this is the realistic answer

[subtle skiff]

No, people suck at using shriek for most bosses

[grand adder]

You can skip and make certain bosses easier

[smoky bridge]

I agree.

Speaking of, God I wish there was a way to reduce the white flashing.

[strange knot]

Why are you dying ☠️ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using descending dark 🕶. Descending ⬇️ dark 🕶️ gives you iframes 👀 which stop 🛑 you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰️🅰️ lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠️ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use descending ⬇️ dark 🌑

[quartz gulch]

80% of bosses are basically invulnerable to it too.

[grand adder]

You also could progress for better spells and nails without fighting bosses first if you find them too hard except for inportant bosses

[light swan]

abyss shriek and sharpdart are both op

[smoky bridge]

I am happy with random bullshit go red tool spam as the easy way out for people who don't want to sweat.

[strange knot]

Wut

[subtle skiff]

I am very much aware of the damage numbers, they do not mean anything in a vacuum tho, shriek is not very easy to use, ddark is

[light swan]

shriek is more op than shartfart tho

[frosty light]

idk, id repeatedly hea about hk being considered a hard game, and people commonly talking about how much they struggled, so idk how much the consensus varies here compared to elsewhere. definitely the type of thing to vary more depending on the games youve played prior, though

[slender juniper]

"Retme speedrun silksong at 3 am"
binds silkspear

[winter saddle]

of course theres the option for that, but the difficulty system already exists in reverse, with a hard mode, why not just make an easy mode with the preexisting system

[smoky bridge]

I have a friend who had to mod the flashing out cause it was giving her migraines.

And yeah I can see it.

[quartz gulch]

Sharp Dart apparently is OP when Sharp Shadow exists. I don't know how this community can be disappointing more than they already are. Not everyone, but some.

[smoky bridge]

It was less unpleasant in HK cause the flashes were black instead of white overwhelmingly.

How is sharp dart op?

[slender juniper]

If youre a speedrunner its incredibly annoying

[smoky bridge]

Wut

[glacial kelp]

who the hell cares about sharp shadow damage

[slender juniper]

3.5× needle damage + iframes

[grand adder]

People calls sharpdart op but calls sharpshadow which you can use infinitely without the cost of soul bad. Truly a weird community

[smoky bridge]

It's a silk spell, it gets to have a thing going on for it, you are spending resources to cast it.

[quartz gulch]

Great, now also calculate the loss of silk.

[winter saddle]

its nostalgia for the original game

[strange knot]

Idk hornet’s periods are way more annoying

[slender juniper]

4?what

[quartz gulch]

Exactly, they really are just double standards by definition.

[grand adder]

Its not nostalgia if people hates it

[slender juniper]

Sexist

[winter saddle]

what a way to say it

[glacial kelp]

you can call shade cloak good without mentioning sharp shadow

[strange knot]

How is that sexist wtf

[smoky bridge]

Sharp shadow was bad cause it made it freaking impossible to do platforming well.

[grand adder]

What?

[smoky bridge]

Too dang long

[winter saddle]

reverse nostalgia

[slender juniper]

Sharpshadow does nail damage, shapdart does 3.5

[neon geyser]

sharpdart does quite a bit more damage
'dashing' through enemies is also unique to sharpdart, its not a movement upgrade

[subtle skiff]

You can shriek p much every boss in the game but yeah a lot of them arent going to be viable for normal players

[quartz gulch]

And Sharp Shadow? And windup? And healing potential? If you don't include everything you are just forcing half truths.

[slender juniper]

Im meming

[smoky bridge]

If it did 1x nail it would suck. Nobody would use it.

[frosty light]

i mean sharpdart gives lingering iframes after you use it so its not quite the same. also not the same in that it has a windup tho

[grand adder]

Thing is it cost silk to use which is unethical compared to better silk skills

[winter saddle]

to be fair nobody i know did use it even with the buffs

[plucky jungle]

what is everyones perdiction for sea of sorrows release date

[glacial kelp]

their argument was “sharp shadow is better shartfart” when shade cloak is the reason iv frames exist
all sharp shadow does is add damage and extend the dash

[slender juniper]

Silkspear is the fastest silk skill ,theres bassicaly no windup

[quartz gulch]

I mean, it seems pretty much worse than the other spells if you use it on BV and stuff like that. And using it on PV would just kill you from the long animation.

[grand adder]

Which is why its not bad? What do you want it to fucking do?

[strange knot]

I know lol

[slender juniper]

The windup is like 0.2s

[quartz gulch]

We aren't even talking about Silkspear, tf?

[smoky bridge]

I still don't use it, I just got too comfortable with the cross stitch.

[grand adder]

The sole reason it exist is fro shade cloak

[glacial kelp]

i never said it was bad? i just dont think it provides enough value

[strange knot]

Silk spear my beloved

[slender juniper]

Sharpdart I meant

[subtle skiff]

Rad PV speedrunning is almost exclusively based on shriek strats funnily enough

[slender juniper]

Silkpear is the 4th slowest

[glacial kelp]

it does 1x nail im not sure why youd care about the damage

[grand adder]

Thing is its good for doshing out damages for certain bosses

Like PV

[subtle skiff]

Because tc is tc and shrieking while facing to the right doesnt trigger his parry

[grand adder]

If you dont like pogoing

[quartz gulch]

Fastest silk skill? Cross Stitch exists you know. And it takes longer than SS.

[slender juniper]

Why would you use sharpshadow if you dont care about damage what

[glacial kelp]

you can also just nail it or use a spell and deal more

[glacial kelp]

well yeah thats why i dont

[subtle skiff]

The damage isnt relevant

[frosty light]

using it on plunge is p simple, tho its more notable in ab

[wheat berry]

I finally beat clover dancers yay :D

[strange knot]

Cross stitch has a really long animation, maybe that’s what they meant

[slender juniper]

Cross stitch is generally slower since you need to parry an attack

[glacial kelp]

its not BAD its just not comparable to spell damage

[quartz gulch]

I guess....
I don't watch speedruns, so idk.

[grand adder]

But overall HK IS BETTER THAN SK

[smoky bridge]

I prefer cross stitch purely because it puts me back where I was standing, and I don't have to readjust.

[strange knot]

HOLY FALSE NUKE

[subtle skiff]

Fights dont last long enough and the damage isnt enough to actually matter enough for the 2 notch cost, its p much used exclusively for range

[smoky bridge]

Me when I state an opinion. (Perfectly acceptable thing to do, but this is the internet)

[quartz gulch]

Gotta go now, bye!

[strange knot]

Bye

[slender juniper]

@strange knot Me when I argue about silkskill and the person mentions,"potential of healing"

[fiery burrow]

Mio is out and clears both this comparison is pointless 🥀

[frosty light]

:shaybe: (pretend theres a mushroom here)

[light swan]

sharp shadow is 1 nail hit of damage right? sharpdart is 3.5

[quartz gulch]

Gay Prince Zote

[grand adder]

Discord dwellers when they see a perfectly fine and not just straight up shit opinions: fuck you

[smoky bridge]

Healing is STUPID use Beast Crest Never have to worry about HEALING just Bind Whenever and Hit Stuff and Win!

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/mio-game-memories-in-orbit-gif-16561756437831424516

[winter saddle]

not even rose tinted glasses he basically just has the color rose printed onto his eyes

[fiery burrow]

Iframes are also more scarce in Silksong

[slender juniper]

"Hk is better,sk is better ,mio is better"stfu irl is the best

[grand adder]

What?

What correleation does that has to do with HK BEING OVERALL BETTER THAN SK

[winter saddle]

you're viewing it via the lens of nostalgia

[smoky bridge]

The Citadel doesn't want you to know but The blood of your ENEMIES Is Free you can take it Home I have Two Gallons of Bug Blood In My Bellhome.

[plucky jungle]

what is the best crest in yalls opinion

[light swan]

hairpin irl is a stupid dhumb thing that pins your hair
hairpin in mio is a super cool multidirectional hook

[fiery burrow]

I replayed HK like two months ago and had a blast i don't think its nostalgia

Silksong is also a blast but HK is very good as well and has better map design imo

[smoky bridge]

My favourite is The Be(a)st Crest

[rocky lotus]

And story

[strange knot]

Witch

Or hunter

[winter saddle]

hunter

[languid plaza]

horse

[smoky bridge]

I much prefer Silksong because I deeply enjoy The faster pace.

[grand adder]

Overall hk and hallownest has better origins and backstory to me compared to hk and pharloom

[languid plaza]

horse crest is better

[slender juniper]

Actuallu both games suck

[frosty light]

silksong 2019 trailer i miss you......

[subtle skiff]

I like sks map design but basically all bosses before act 3 I found to be deeply disappointing

[glacial kelp]

YOU suck

[winter saddle]

satanic game made to waste my time

[smoky bridge]

Sumeone spent money on nitro to clown XD.

[slender juniper]

Why are my bugs talking!?SATANIC

[languid plaza]

worthless

[grand adder]

Who genuinely spends money for nitro unless discord is giving it for free?

[lucid forum]

First Sinner is goated though..

[glacial kelp]

mfs be like “i hate hollow knight” with 5k msgs in the discord all the merch and a hk pfp

[strange knot]

[winter saddle]

lmao

[solar rock]

Hi I am new to the hollow knight and silksong community so I wanted to know whether it's common for team cherry to keep us in the dark about development?

[slender juniper]

Why the fuck would you ever spend money on a messaging app

[winter saddle]

yh pretty much

[rocky lotus]

Yes its very common

[glacial kelp]

no they are usually very social this is rare

[languid plaza]

I haaaaate hollow knight.
stares at my plush

[subtle skiff]

Ok true i liked first sinner decently well

[fiery burrow]

Yea if you're a good player you probably hate both games but if you're bad and enjoy difficulty you'll probably eat it up

[grand adder]

Apperently idiots ig. And theyre overpriced

[winter saddle]

what universe you in

[glacial kelp]

the ragebait one

im obviously joking

[smoky bridge]

The Beast Crest Player does not concern herself with the opinions of people with nitro. /hj

[grand adder]

Like wdym i have to pay 35 dollars to use emojis and stickers from other servers?

[solar rock]

Dang I hope ww3 does not happen before silksong dlc

[winter saddle]

status w chronically online people

[frosty light]

this is the most important thing theyve said

[slender juniper]

Ngl this is so funny,there were 4 years without sk news

[lucid forum]

reason why I only use nitro with the orbs thingy

[strange knot]

LMAOO

[languid plaza]

sherming

[rocky lotus]

Im a relatively good player and i like both games

[smoky bridge]

Still convinced People who clown on Beast Crest just approach it wrong.

[grand adder]

Genuinely what does ww3 has ANYTHING to do with hk and sk?

[languid plaza]

too bad it ends every 3 days and you have to wait like a week for a new insufferable ad to watch

[fiery burrow]

Not as good as me sorry

[frosty light]

(day of the surprise 2022 trailer)

[rocky lotus]

Nuh uh

[slender juniper]

I a new player yall Any tips

[lucid forum]

Pretty much why I saved up for it to last more, and true, ads are insufferable

[smoky bridge]

Stop trying to save your bind. Bind immediately. You have to Be In Rawr mode at all times. You have to freak it at all times.

[rocky lotus]

Tip 1. Uninstall the game

[languid plaza]

i swear ive seen this image like 7000 times

[lucid forum]

You forgot something, play the entire game again

[slender juniper]

Actually do save your bind、healing masks extends it

[plucky jungle]

i dont know why people hate the beast crest its quite fun at times

[winter saddle]

get faster you slow ass mf

[solar rock]

I feel like I am going to be waiting a long long timr

[light swan]

take your time be patient, explore greymoor it has a lot of useful upgrades, use reaper crest, widow is the hardest obss in the game so after that you can chill

[smoky bridge]

You should Ideally have the next bind stocked by the time you get hit.

[fiery burrow]

In all fairness beast probably doesn't leave the best impression if you go to hunters march and get it with like 5 masks where aggression strats are very risky

[winter saddle]

its releasing autumn 2026 i have insider knowledge

[smoky bridge]

Reserve bind is surprisingly good on BC for the vesticrest slot.

[solar rock]

What month is autumn again we don't have that in my country

[frosty light]

normally id say yes but thankfully the dlc is expected to come out this year. so ig assume december or something

[winter saddle]

what planet?

[solar rock]

Dlc comes out december 31 11:59 pm

[light swan]

but beast is so limited would you want reserve bind over smth like injectors

[winter saddle]

its august-october

[light swan]

or damage from circlet or mirrors

[fiery burrow]

y'all ever remember lomm might lowk be scrapped forever and feel ill

[smoky bridge]

I would geniuelly advise against waiting for damage before you bind.
Yes, taking hits shortens the bind, but the damage you gain by immediately popping the second you have an opening.

[frosty light]

...or if you finish the savage beastly fight and try to make it to a bench only to repeatedly fail and almost die because youre not used to aiming the pogo or know you can stop it

[smoky bridge]

I Like it for boss fights where the phase transition can steal your rage time

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[solar rock]

I'm from more equatorial country so there is no yellow leaf autumn

[fiery burrow]

Thank god Hunter's March has a safe bench 🙏

[static hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/agenda-witch-crest-average-witch-crest-user-silksong-silkpost-gif-487930681628415259

[light swan]

this gif fucking sucks

[frosty light]

NO

[light swan]

im sorry it just does

[languid plaza]

its Old!

[smoky bridge]

Those GIFs aren't even crest, it's just circlet.

[winter saddle]

the equator doesnt exist the earth is clearly a cube

[light swan]

the person making the gif clearly tried to take my techs but failed to use it

[light swan]

that gif doesnt use circlet btw

[strange knot]

That gif is weird why does grand reed dies so quickly

[solar rock]

[smoky bridge]

The circlet is not even dependent on the crest.

[languid plaza]

i also fail to use your techs 😔

[light swan]

it can die faster but they missed a spogo

[smoky bridge]

Oh, yeah this one doesn't

[slender juniper]

September to november

[smoky bridge]

((the beast one does tho, from what I can tell.

[solar rock]

Ahh alr

[frosty light]

i like LEGIT did not consider that once pharloom bay was confirmed to (in some way) return but fuck they could legit just scrap most of that stuff anyway. the craglites already probably wont be there for instance...

[fiery burrow]

running circlet with beast is diabolical

[light swan]

and yet the person in the gif tried to make it into an average oneand yet uits Bad

[smoky bridge]

I hate GIFs my screen small and my eyes bad :v

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[languid plaza]

ass

[winter saddle]

just buy new eyes dumbass

[strange knot]

Ye I think I did a better job taking ur techs

[light swan]

heres how its done on a voided grand reed which has double the hp

[plucky jungle]

my favorite crest is the architect crest

[smoky bridge]

's not bad.

Circlet is always good.

[fiery burrow]

on the bright side at least the name Lomm would stick

[strange knot]

I love my clip farming gifs

[solar rock]

I like wanderer personally

[strange knot]

I have like 2 but they are so funny

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-i-saw-waht-you-deleted-deleted-doakes-james-doakes-gif-13276549325124160491

[winter saddle]

architect crest larp bug aura monster

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-city-boy-aura-monster-subaru-natuski-mario-gif-2906700990866198539

[plucky jungle]

wanderer is my 2nd favorite

[smoky bridge]

Buff da Reaper. This is my desire.

[strange knot]

Nerf reaper

[cedar bluff]

REWORK reaper

[light swan]

reapers too strong

[strange knot]

First good take by illusion

[winter saddle]

larp reaper 🤣

[smoky bridge]

The only piece of praise I have for reaper is that it is the most sane option for the flea pogo.

[light swan]

shaman is

[compact cargo]

Idea for the silksong godhome type thing

[smoky bridge]

... I should try to beast crest flea pogo.

[strange knot]

Shaman:

[solar rock]

I unfortunately didn't experiment with the creat system in my first playthough, I just speedran wanderer and used it all the way

[frosty light]

TRUE. thankfully is already safe from these savages who would change carmelitia's name

[cedar bluff]

the humble shaman crest:

[plucky jungle]

i dont get it

[fiery burrow]

Giving reaper a proper niche is as easy as giving it a white spell slot

[smoky bridge]

's what I keep saying. But I think that will not be enough.

[compact cargo]

Clover dancers but the other princes soul is fully there

[winter saddle]

you need to have the encryption code

[light swan]

give reaper a tipper and make it mroe range theres no reason why it has less range than witch

[fiery burrow]

true...

[smoky bridge]

The problem with reaper is that it is basically working against itself.

[fiery burrow]

Karmelita grew on me though because it fits with the sKarr more

[light swan]

give reaper a Tipperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[cedar bluff]

i love the reaper dash attack

[solar rock]

My personal idea for silksong godhome is kinda like || the red memory but here hornet gets all 4 hearts to go into some sort of godhome||

[light swan]

where hitting enemies with ONLY the tip of your attack will deal 1.5x damage

[strange knot]

I love witch and hunter dash attacks

[smoky bridge]

Its bind effect doesn't give you anything.
It just offsets its main weakness.

[plucky jungle]

same

[fiery burrow]

yeah

[smoky bridge]

((you hit slow, so you build less silk))

[compact cargo]

Whyd you spoiler that

[light swan]

hows that working "against" itself

[cedar bluff]

cuz of spoilers ya dingus

[smoky bridge]

... This sounds fun tbh

[frosty light]

hm why didnt they just name them the scar oh

[solar rock]

|| act 3|| spoilers

[slender juniper]

Nerf reaper,delete its bind effect and now it does 20% less needle damage

[winter saddle]

the joke is only shown if youve delete the files of system 32, since its just bloatware, if you use linux do sudo rm -rf /*

[light swan]

the knight appears in the ending of act 3 after defeating the Lost Lace boss

[slender juniper]

This is the spoilers channel, #sk-help for tagging spoilers

[smoky bridge]

Its gimmick is not a gimmick. It's meant to be the "moar silk" crest, but you do not get moar silk.

You get roughly equivalent silk.

[cedar bluff]

no its ||act 4|| spoilers

[compact cargo]

Balatro

[solar rock]

Yeah I did it and I get more fps

[smoky bridge]

And you have to collect the little silk balls too.

[solar rock]

Lmao

[light swan]

it still ends up getting more silk than what it usually does, i dont see how it works against itself since it works with itself it just fails

[smoky bridge]

I do like its moveset. It's slow but super consistent.

[lucid forum]

wonder if they're gonna use more of red memory in general, I think it felt for it to be a one time thing..m

[winter saddle]

||spoilers are cool||

[smoky bridge]

A sweet spot mechanic would be cool, tho.

[lucid forum]

a godhome is probably going to be an entirely original thing

[smoky bridge]

Like I unironically like that Idea.

[cedar bluff]

||average spoiler spammer||

[fiery burrow]

Doesn't sound as cool

[winter saddle]

thats not ||nice||

[slender juniper]

Reaper buff idea:
From 21 to 25 needle damage
Silk orbs now give one half silk insteaf of 1/3, you always get two orbs now instead of it being rng and weird
The orbs float to you after a short time of beinh uncollected

[cedar bluff]

wdym its ||perfectly justified||

[lucid forum]

Don't you always get three orbs per hit?

[solar rock]

||. . || ||. . || ||Shaw||

[slender juniper]

No,its first hit gives one than a random chance between 2 and 3

[smoky bridge]

Reaper is weird.

[plucky jungle]

no its 1 to 3 orbs

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-yes-hornet-nodding-gif-13688305274507930242

[lucid forum]

that's sad

[frosty light]

i really think they could just make reaper binds duration work less like hunter and more like beast, and then make the orb quantity greater and less dependent on enemy size. maybe add some bullshit interactions with like multibinder and claw mirrors, maybe a persistent aoe aura after the blast or some shit
(...or you know they could just remove the 1/3 and 2/3 silk in favor of 1/2...)

[smoky bridge]

I like the vibe of it.

[lucid forum]

I guess considering you're constantly hitting you wouldn't notice but they really should increase the amount

[frosty light]

spoilers

[smoky bridge]

Getting more bind time by collecting the silk balls would be funny. Perpetual silk machine.

[slender juniper]

Dont increase the amount make the orbs more potent ,otherwise too much stuff on the screen

[glacial kelp]

what if reaper had a stronger heal but its spread into the orbs you pick up

[lucid forum]

True actually

[light swan]

reapers bind only need number buffs and maybe doesnt end on hit

[modest hamlet]

im now on act 3 so what should i do

[compact cargo]

The godseekers being in pharloom would be pretty bad lore wise

[slender juniper]

-shorten it from 10s to 7,5 but dont make it end on hit

[lucid forum]

Cry and pray to the pale beings

[smoky bridge]

Tbh I wish hunter had a bit more leeway.

[light swan]

it has way too much leeway already

[cedar bluff]

rework half of the crests

[winter saddle]

do sudo rm -rf /*

[compact cargo]

Remove crests

[modest hamlet]

what is the best crest?

[lucid forum]

normally people when starting act 3 go to the bell beast (I wanted to make sure she was okay)

[cedar bluff]

witch cuz u can literally nuke people

[smoky bridge]

I just don't like using hunter, cause losing focus feels bad

[lucid forum]

because like, fast travel and search for whatever could be new

[slender juniper]

Im actually starting to agree with this unfortunetly

[light swan]

witch is cool without nuke but yes nuke is awesome

[smoky bridge]

I disagree. Hands off my baby.

[compact cargo]

I was silkposting

[lucid forum]

Whoever fits your playstyle (I love Witch)

[glacial kelp]

what if every crest was just hunter

[slender juniper]

Ik

[winter saddle]

remove system 32

[plucky jungle]

bro just started a 3 hour argument

[cedar bluff]

world peace and 0 crest discourse

[modest hamlet]

yea

[compact cargo]

What if goku was betrayed and trapped in the time chamber

[lucid forum]

Wanderer with the Hunter's passive buff

[winter saddle]

perfect world

[frosty light]

but the thing is you already get a bunch of orbs from the really large enemies even when theyre not necessarily threatening than smaller ones (i wonder if mite mother or lost lace should give more silk balance wise )

[cedar bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1432449685746094241/caption.gif

[zealous elk]

all of them. they all are amazing if you use them correctly even with their downsides

[lucid forum]

what's y'all favorite silk skills (unless you're architect)

[smoky bridge]

My favourite is the Beast Crest :)

[compact cargo]

Except that one

[frosty light]

[winter saddle]

this is a horrible take

[zealous elk]

Cross Stitch. it makes me feel so awesome

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-hollow-knight-silksong-sharpdart-gif-172506460777569554

[smoky bridge]

Cross stitch or Silk stowm

[plucky jungle]

what is yalls favorite tool

[modest hamlet]

best for crusty king

[smoky bridge]

Counterpoint: Hornet go Rawr

[cedar bluff]

cross stitch solos

[winter saddle]

why is hornet not putting a warning for bright lights, we should sue her

[lucid forum]

Honestly if I learned more to use it better I'd use it so much more

[compact cargo]

what is yalls favorite joker

[cedar bluff]

thats my line!

[zealous elk]

Multibinder. never taking it off ever

[modest hamlet]

what is the best for crusty king

[zealous elk]

it's so good in so many situations

[winter saddle]

absolute joker

[lucid forum]

Cogflies if I'm mad, otherwise it's the three throw able knifes or flea brew

[frosty light]

what bug would the joker be if batman would be like a drapemite or something

[hoary marsh]

With mirrors too🤤

[slender juniper]

I have bad news about the threefold pin..

[zealous elk]

you mean the threefold pin?

[arctic epoch]

egg of flealia

[winter saddle]

multibinder should let you heal multiple times, but since you can already do this in the base game, you should only be able to heal once without it

[cedar bluff]

conchcutter

[lucid forum]

yeah that one

[compact cargo]

Trobbio

[zealous elk]

OHH yeaahhh

[plucky jungle]

why are you using volt filament and egg of flealia with no silk skills

[modest hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jqMn5XBQg

[smoky bridge]

Flimt

[slender juniper]

I have bad news

[lucid forum]

what....

[smoky bridge]

... Are you playing into the joke Or...

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-silk-song-hollow-knight-act-2-dies-gif-434841477376972261

[smoky bridge]

I can never tell

[winter saddle]

is this the worst possible architect crest build

[smoky bridge]

You could go worse probably.

[compact cargo]

No

[cedar bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1120737601222098974.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[hoary marsh]

Straight up hideous

[plucky jungle]

mine is plasmium phial

[smoky bridge]

Replace the threefold with the plasmium stabby

[compact cargo]

Barbed bracelet

[winter saddle]

best*

[modest hamlet]

flea bru with wanderers speed makes it a shredder

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-12451308683230652577

[hoary marsh]

Hello

[winter saddle]

no it doesnt i tried and my sisters homework isnt shredded

[frosty light]

youre just hating on it cuz its not straight....... i used it for like 3/4 of my first run and it uhhhh it uh well it beat widow for me

[slender juniper]

They kinds suck

[smoky bridge]

I got roached :(

[compact cargo]

Favorite danmei?

[lucid forum]

and here I thought I was doing great with it at lost lace..m

[frosty light]

wait what what is this. these arent the numbers the wiki used to say...

[zealous elk]

if you slap it against your monitor for long enough it'll be slightly damaged and your monitor will be shredded

[cedar bluff]

guys whats yalls favourite npc cuz i dont have one

[tight viper]

Snitch Pick

[weak shard]

Are the crests currently balanced right now? I've been considering maining either architect or hunter

[leaden delta]

kinda yea

[compact cargo]

Trink

[cedar bluff]

no stick to maining witch

[plucky jungle]

i respect it

[tight viper]

If you ignore the unbalanced parts, they’re balanced

[leaden delta]

generally I would say they’re balanced. Generally

[frosty light]

oh wait no maybe they were actually

[cedar bluff]

never heard of em

[slender juniper]

No

[winter saddle]

so theoretically if i use multiple monitors the homework will eventually be heavily damaged

[smoky bridge]

If you do not agressively wallet dump every enemy that looks at you crooked it's fine.

[frosty light]

but i still thought the first hit and total werea bit higher

[smoky bridge]

I would advise not ignoring your needle on architect, unless you want to turn the game into a shard farming/dumping simulator.

[zealous elk]

yes

[compact cargo]

When did yall find out what the gatema button actually was

[slender juniper]

The needle strike

[winter saddle]

when i opened the keybinds

[crude kettle]

Is it normal for me to lose to widow?

[tight viper]

When I looked at the controls

[winter saddle]

change your pfp

[tight viper]

Sure

[frosty light]

more or less. only reaper really falls behind. witchs nuke is also sadly suprressed...

[smoky bridge]

I remember when it was the best needle art in the game

[tight viper]

Widow’s a tough fight, one of the first major skill checks

[lucid forum]

tbf you still have to hit for silk to recharge tools

[cedar bluff]

when i literally used the literal ability to literally literally

[slender juniper]

It still is

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but it's no longer obscenely busted.

[cedar bluff]

cat

[weak shard]

Hmm, okay

[tight viper]

Great and powerful creature

[frosty light]

haha flintslate goes 📿🦴📿🦴📿🦴

[weak shard]

For like, fairly fast paced playstyle, hunter is best?

[crude kettle]

But If I lost to widow for like the 12th time how did I beat radiance on first try

[slender juniper]

Wanderer

[smoky bridge]

It was so bad they nerfed flintslate specifically on Architect at one point.

[smoky bridge]

Beast beast beast beast.

[slender juniper]

Im sorry what

[tight viper]

Widow is harder than the Radiance for the point in the game at which you fight it

[cedar bluff]

[tight viper]

You can have every single upgrade in the game for Radiance

[odd hull]

Can't you test them?

[crude kettle]

Oh

[tight viper]

You hardly have any upgrades available before Widow

[smoky bridge]

They rebalanced the flintslate at one point and architect got the biggest nerf then.

[weak shard]

Eh, want secondary opinions

[jolly yew]

Widow is the skill check

[smoky bridge]

I think the second biggest was wanderer.

[compact cargo]

She can be your second to last act 1 boss

[modest hamlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/silksong-basketball

[smoky bridge]

The multihits were obscene cause every single hit was buffed.

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[tight viper]

What upgrades do these bosses all grant you?

And how difficult are these bosses compared to Widow?

[modest hamlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bruh-bro-4

[frosty light]

hunters p fast but beast and wanderer are the ultimate "spam attack all the time forever" crests. witch also has the craziest opener if you decided you were crazy enough to learn it

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-9962083141856335288

[cedar bluff]

thats a sticker not a gif ofc its gonna work

[modest hamlet]

@cedar bluff

[tight viper]

It’s very, very easy to reach Widow without a single extra mask on a first playthrough

[modest hamlet]

i did it

[smoky bridge]

Beaft... My beloved. Until you flub your hand, lose your rage and end up playing wonky hunter.

[tight viper]

Beaft

[cedar bluff]

??????????????????????????????????

[modest hamlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/james-doakes-doakes

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-496833742737182965

[modest hamlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hazbin-hotel-vox-eyebrow-wiggle-suggestive-lewd

[smoky bridge]

Beaft

[cedar bluff]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[tight viper]

Beaft

[frosty light]

it didnt multiply damage by 1.5x, rather it added a flat amount of damage equivalent to a 0.5x needle hit, so 10 at max... for each hit, no matter what the original damage was (iirc architect needle strike also just literally dealt more damage originally)

[smoky bridge]

... Beast Crest.

[weak shard]

Goot it, good to know!

[tight viper]

Beaft Creft

[smoky bridge]

Yeah

[modest hamlet]

best sk boss ?

[tight viper]

Second Sentinel

[inland wind]

https://tenor.com/view/skarrsinger-karmelita-silksong-skarsinger-gif-5668529689958030110

[lucid forum]

Lost Lace

[frosty light]

it doesnt tell you how to taunt.... 💔

[modest hamlet]

all are pretty good bosses

[weak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-phantom-silksong-silksong-phantom-exhaust-organ-gif-2019283753967779718

[frosty light]

i cant remember how i learned to do it, probably someone explaining it, but i just assumed it was a cut feature from the demo

[inland wind]

I wish phantom had more phases

[cedar bluff]

just press down one of the joysticks

[weak depot]

Yeah

[tight viper]

Use keyboard smh

[frosty light]

yeah eventually i knew

[cedar bluff]

phantom underated, lace overated. source: trust me bro

[modest hamlet]

true

phantom is peak boss

[smoky bridge]

I love First Sinner sm

[odd hull]

Karmelita

[rocky lotus]

Zango

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-rage-bait-hornet-phantom-gif-13542340927859002000

[rocky lotus]

Its not bait bro

[cedar bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-12451308683230652577

[modest hamlet]

bro

die of death is not sk related

[cedar bluff]

exactly

its a reference

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-papyrus-undertale-undertale-papyrus-chat-gif-13802046543712449124

[modest hamlet]

[arctic epoch]

this place is dead as hell

[smoky bridge]

???

Anyways, Styx is the best boy, no contest.

He freaky, but you can't hate the guy.

[vivid belfry]

okay I've decided to stop hating pinstress

[zealous elk]

why DID you hate her

[smoky bridge]

Unacceptable.

[vivid belfry]

just the boss fight

[zealous elk]

what was bad about it

[vivid belfry]

she loves to float out of reach and spam projectiles

[zealous elk]

ahhh yeah

thge floating is a problem

[still osprey]

Pinstress is a very annoying fight but Clawline makes it more bearable

[rocky lotus]

and tools

[smoky bridge]

I do not mind the pogo but I do not like the beast crest charge attack.

It sends you so far forward.

[vivid belfry]

pogo and charge attack both have directional influence that you can use to augment their trajectory

[smoky bridge]

Wait, charge too???

[rocky lotus]

for me the worst thing about it is the sprint attack

[vivid belfry]

yep, keeps you mostly stationary if you hold back

[rocky lotus]

just not satisfying to use imo

[smoky bridge]

I did not notice that one.

[tight viper]

The worst thing about Pinstress is the wind

[smoky bridge]

The needle art is good, you can really easily nail those annoying fliers with it.

[tight viper]

Try floating around a bit during the fight, the wind that blows can and will redirect you if you aren’t constantly holding right

You’ll get blown to the left and start to face left

[raw pawn]

So uhh no one talks about what the best dash slash is

Which one is the best in your opinion?

[tight viper]

Shaman

[trim estuary]

Crawfather

[winged compass]

pinstress boss is shite

crawfather is peak

[vivid belfry]

pinstress has graduated from bad to mediocre in my book

[tight viper]

Shaman dash slash is peak

[smoky bridge]

Wanderer or hunter.

[exotic fern]

tip for those struggling with gurr (even though i dont think anyone should): the traps dont do damage until theyre set

[rocky lotus]

i like hunter the most

[raw pawn]

I honestly think witch has the best one

[winged compass]

Witch is so peam

[smoky bridge]

Beast is not that good it can be good, but sometimes it feels like it sends you way too far. Witch can get you hurt real easy for some reason.

Sometimes it lands and Hornet does her thing but clips the hitbox in the process. It's weird

[raw pawn]

Witch dash slash is prob the only one that does more than 1 hit

[smoky bridge]

Doesn't the second hit deal like... One damage?

[clever crystal]

chat did yall know hornet is actually a chair?

[trim estuary]

This is true.

[weak depot]

I saw somewhere that base silksong is harder than base hollow knight, but the peak of hollow knight is harder than the peak of silksong

I lowkey agree with that take

[trim estuary]

That’s the consensus

[smoky bridge]

Huh

I cannot send screenshots.

First time I found this breakable wall wth

To the right of the greymoor spool

Styx shortcut!

[silver oak]

when will you publish

[coarse leaf]

BRO I GOT TO PAHSE 2

OF GROAL

[velvet cape]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-eo2gifs-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-ch-3-tenna-deltarune-gif-3543875082152148675

[wide quartz]

haiiii badtie

[chrome phoenix]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight-silksong/clips/mepnaachSZmB4YXLn?invite=cr-MSxwN3IsNDkwNjIxMzI5&v=95
My most painful death in the game

[tame delta]

Nice job now just suffer through the rest of the fight 🙂

[jolly yew]

The peak of hollow knight is dlcs

Unfair comparison

[midnight jasper]

I love the Wanderer's crest's Needle Strike

Reminds me of that one Lace parry move

Never taking this crest off

[still osprey]

Hi! I'm BadTie!

[wide quartz]

dletarune..

WAIT different pfp

what the flip

[light swan]

are the badties gone

[wide quartz]

what dis from

[still osprey]

No I'm still here hi

[still osprey]

Which pfp did I even have when I was last active here it was Spamton right?

I've changed twice since then

[wide quartz]

damn

in my deepest heart i still read your messages with spamton

[still osprey]

A lot of people do 🥹

[wide quartz]

all the good memories

the bad memories

the old times, the new times

[midnight jasper]

I just found out about the 3rd sister of the Warrior Sisters' tribe

Cool lore

[still osprey]

I honestly wasn't expecting to see literally anyone I recognized from all those years ago but I've seen both you and spore

[wide quartz]

oh yeah there are like 5? people from the olden days that are still regulars

i join back for about an hour every few months to see if thats changed but nope

[still osprey]

I believe eg is still active too

[spice rain]

hi guys i have a question, tell me if i should post it in a different channel, i started silksong recently and im wondering are there certain things that i cant go back to if i miss them, i have heard about the acts im still in act1, are there things here that i wont be able to do later if i miss them and go to acts 2 and 3?

[devout oracle]

didn't have any quests, so i beat gms and asmr binded her

[rocky lotus]

the only things i know of are the shakra and garmond boss fights

[devout oracle]

i beat her on my third attempt today lmao

[rocky lotus]

you can miss those if you start act 3

[neon geyser]

some npcs are different and some items are moved between acts but nothing relevant is missable

[devout oracle]

anyway, ik it only takes a few bellhart donations to get my bellhome, but the quest board is empty everywhere

[spice rain]

wait i think i beat the fly boss before talking to that garmond dude, can i meet him again

[rocky lotus]

broodmother?

[spice rain]

moothwing something like that

*moorwing

[rocky lotus]

you can fight garmond and shakra in act 2 but not in act 3 so you should be good

[spice rain]

tnx guys

[rocky lotus]

their fight requirements are quite obscure tho im not sure what causes them to be fightable

[neon geyser]

just interacting in the citadel

[light swan]

so my friend is buying me rainworld

[wide quartz]

hell yeah!

[hollow shell]

YEEEAAAHHHHHH

sowwy😢

@rocky lotus is that senior or sir fungus?

[opaque sigil]

I'm sorry for your loss

[rocky lotus]

i will never tell

[grim widget]

I wonder if this channel is good

[rocky lotus]

its not

[weak depot]

Absolutely not, return to #hk-discussion and spare yourself the pain and agony of this channel

[grim widget]

Can’t be worse than a hollow knight vc

[rocky lotus]

lace age and phantom pronouns discourse:

[hollow shell]

Damn is 😂🎉

[grim widget]

Oh wait nvm

[rocky lotus]

and 1 crestillion crest slop discussions

[grim widget]

I remember why I left this channel is was this fuckass slowmode and hornet’s fucking abortion

[weak depot]

This channel fucking sucks

[light swan]

yarnabortion

[wide quartz]

whats this

[light swan]

people see yarnaby as performing an abortion when really yarnaby is a relationship counselor

[wide quartz]

ohh is it when you get the leech thing

[grim widget]

Yeah

[wide quartz]

scary

[spare fractal]

oh hi chaos!

[light swan]

it starts as an abusive onesided relationship between hornet and the bud, but then they learn to accept eachothers boundaries and it becomes a mutual respect and benefit relationship

[wide quartz]

yooo patoo

hows it going

[untold dune]

you should write for team cherry

[spare fractal]

I'm doing alright, thanks for asking! It's nice to see someone I actually recognize in this server

How about you?

[light swan]

Hollow Knight: Lacelight

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-peaks-this-fucking-greens-danny-devito-clapping-gif-652469562401052345

[wide quartz]

im good! yeah it is surprising, my last view visits back have been failures in that regard

[grim widget]

Man the hk help channel is the best

[weak depot]

Yes

[strange knot]

That’s peak fiction ngl

[untold dune]

no sk-discussion is the best because its the only place where you can find non-sk discussions!

[still osprey]

It's true

[strange knot]

[wide quartz]

ss-offtopic is the secret furry roleplay channel they DONT want you to know about

[still osprey]

Is hk-offtopic still a channel it's not on my channel list lol

[untold dune]

its just #off-topic

[still osprey]

I seeee

[untold dune]

but there is #hk-general and no sk-general

[still osprey]

Yea that's the channel I used to be active in like 3 years ago now

I think hk-general is for both hk and ss discussion

[untold dune]

im not the biggest fan of the channel branding in this server lowk, but whatever

[strange knot]

That’s unacceptable

[still osprey]

The fact there's no color roles will forever hurt me 🥹

[untold dune]

role colors is only for the elite

[light swan]

are the baddies gone

[spare fractal]

hk-offtopic became hk-general

...it's still hk-offtopic though, just with a different name...

[still osprey]

Oh I see

[untold dune]

did oftopic exist before the name change?

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[wide quartz]

ss-offtopic was the better offtopic... sometimes...

[wide quartz]

yeah the most regulars from the start of the server reside there because its so chill

[untold dune]

fair

[still osprey]

hk-offtopic lowkey sucked back then is it better now lol

[wide quartz]

wdym.... it had cozy knights....

doesn't really help my case seeing how that server progressed but....

[still osprey]

Cozy Knights was good for a time but then no one could mature

[wide quartz]

yeah the vent channel was atrocious

[subtle skiff]

No its so much worse

[still osprey]

Love to hear that

[wide quartz]

do you still talk to anyone from cozy knights?

i lost contact with literally all of them when my old account got banned

[still osprey]

Yea I still talk with a few people

[graceful oyster]

Benny frank

[wide quartz]

would you mind naming them

[untold dune]

mio

[still osprey]

Uh Thommie is one of them

[fossil socket]

anyone here play da nine sols-

[still osprey]

I'm not sure if the others want to be named

Thommie probably doesn't care considering he is still in this server and is a modding mod apparently

When did that even happen

[wide quartz]

uhhhh

about 2 years ago?

[still osprey]

Holy shit what

[wide quartz]

it was after i left

[subtle skiff]

Yeah quite a while, although you dont see him anywhere besides the help channels these days

[wide quartz]

maybe one year

[still osprey]

Yea makes sense

[spare fractal]

IT STILL SUCKS?!

I thought it would've gotten better by now...

[slender juniper]

Got nine sols 15$ on sale 18 hours in this is so peak

[subtle skiff]

Hk-gen gets mods called like atleast twice a day these days it is a mess

[wide quartz]

if plati or theradiance are still active can you ask them if they mind me knowing their accounts?

[timber pelican]

Gaster

[cobalt pilot]

Hi

Hello

[untold dune]

hey

[still osprey]

I haven't talked to theradiance since she left ck all those years ago

[rough pawn]

DNI

[cobalt pilot]

FUCK

[still osprey]

Plati joined the server a few months ago on her new account I believe, tho whether she wants to share that account with anyone I'm not sure

[rough pawn]

what the fuck is an "el jibbity"

[graceful oyster]

Hatapas mio

[still osprey]

She left again around silksong's release

[wide quartz]

fair

[wide quartz]

damn

[wide quartz]

both of them i consider really good friends but i dont remember much about either tbh 😭

[still osprey]

Actually that's not completely true I gifted her Celeste on steam once and she sent me a message thanking me

[slender juniper]

What binding silkspear feels like

[still osprey]

That was the last time I heard from her

Hope she's doing well

[slender juniper]

1)shes dead
2)shes missing
3)she forgott her dc password

[void moat]

yooo whyd hornet say this

[wide quartz]

4. the italian mafia hired her into their ranks

[cobalt pilot]

I'm here

[graceful oyster]

Hi here

[cobalt pilot]

How are we all doing today

[tight viper]

Bored

[tight viper]

Good, I think

Hope everyone is good

Good is good

[slender juniper]

Is she talking about the green princes

[graceful oyster]

Why is Hollow Knight so emo

[slender juniper]

Idk

Its made by middle aged men

Could be the reason

[broken seal]

that's what i typically run but i rarely use it lol

[smoky bridge]

At How many slots were the rewards from Eva?

[tall surge]

did anyone else realise that phantom kinda looks like the ghosts from the mist

o ram i dumb

[untold dune]

lorewise its the wraiths that look like phantom

[tall surge]

oeh

[lavish sedge]

Why do I think karmileta's fav sport is javelin throwing

[lavish sedge]

Huh

[untold dune]

nah shed be a discus thrower

[tall surge]

tf is hive knight doing

[lavish sedge]

What

[sharp tundra]

Wat is traitor lord doing

[safe ore]

Chat i come from the future and im here to tell yall that sea of sorrow will be made into its own game

And it will drop in June 2034

[untold dune]

checks out

[safe ore]

Istg is sea of sorrow even coming out

I dont wanna sound inpatient but the game came out in september and its march

[untold dune]

yeah tomorrow

[safe ore]

Yesterday

[untold dune]

this is just how team cherry work, they didnt give any silksong updates for a full 7 years lmao

they will announce a release date on a random tuesday

[safe ore]

Fuck it they gonna drop it some random day with no release date or trailer

And then announce another dlc

[untold dune]

also possible

likely, even