sk-discussion

[flat lynx]

fr bruh

[still osprey]

Bilewater's name doesn't really make a lot of sense like was it always called Bilewater? Did the inhabitants decide "This place sucks ass now let's change its name to humiliate ourselves further" or did the citadel just decide to start calling it that without their consent or what

[wicked cedar]

Shakra named it

[flat lynx]

would NOT discount that considering everything

[wicked cedar]

Bc she made the map

[near mirage]

shakra 🤤

[flat lynx]

good point

[wicked cedar]

Dawg

[bronze oasis]

bro. before EVERYTHING it wasn't called anything because Nothing existed at all in the universe

[jagged yew]

Maybe they like Bile

[arctic epoch]

if nothing existed before everything, how come nothing existed before everything?

[bronze oasis]

toasty what was that

[flat lynx]

what were you called before primal spit squit...

[near mirage]

or maybe it’s because the ENTIRE FUCKING REGION IN BILEWATER, SINNERS ROAD AND PUTRIFIED DUCTS IS ALL FUCKED UP

caps lock enabled mb

[bronze oasis]

before what

[flat lynx]

your current display name

[arctic epoch]

Hunter, the apostle of hate?

[wicked cedar]

I was trying to say "how fangamer feels after ruining lace and shakras figures" but i used another word instead of ruining and it didnt like that

[flat lynx]

naw bro valid crash

[bronze oasis]

polon

[near mirage]

Lugoli

[flat lynx]

im like really racking my brain here on what couldve triggered the censors enough for that

[bronze oasis]

did the word rhyme with tracking?

[flat lynx]

i see i see, so there is something before everything

[wicked cedar]

Rhymed with spoonifying

G

[flat lynx]

OHHHHH

[arctic epoch]

would everything include nothing? would all possible existence of any object include the existence of a non-existent object?

[north ore]

my build specifically for navigating the Ducts

[bronze oasis]

still no idea

[jagged yew]

Rel, I got almost the same thing

[flat lynx]

bro icl worse has been said without being censored 😭

[wicked cedar]

That word but spoon has a g instead of sp

[cunning geode]

colonists almost always use a different name for a place than the ones given by its natives

[earnest drift]

why would you use cogflies in ducts

[lavish apex]

cogflies and tacks, i know what you are

[fossil socket]

NINE SOLS IS SO PEAK

[wicked cedar]

I mean i guess they don't want to have any words related to any inappropriate acts

[weak depot]

ah I almost forgot how annoying soul sanctum was

[bronze oasis]

oh

[flat lynx]

spit squits require ALL your defenses on the front lines at ALL TIMES

[wicked cedar]

Because that's what they did to the designs

[lavish apex]

well the

halflife ceiling trap things eat them

[earnest drift]

but the things hanging from the ceiling eat the cogflies

[cold ravine]

i wish i lost my memory and played this game again

[flat lynx]

i 100% get that but ive seen other words posted on here which are a LOT more upfront with word choice

[flat lynx]

SERIOUSLY

[cunning geode]

barnacles :)

[wicked cedar]

Give me your memory

[earnest drift]

try it out

[flat lynx]

ten shell shards down the drain :(

[wicked cedar]

Damn i see

[near mirage]

barnaks

[north ore]

I almost never leave home without the flock

[arctic epoch]

eh, my memories are long became one with the stars, you might even call in memories in orbit

[cold ravine]

hunters crest remains on top

[wicked cedar]

I guess bro

[flat lynx]

no cogflies in shamans tsk

[jagged yew]

Same, they so versatile

[earnest drift]

the barnaks will eat them

[near mirage]

no cogflies in cursed and cloakless tsk tsk

[arctic epoch]

interesting build on shaman

[north ore]

I dont usually deploy them while just exploring

[north ore]

how so

[flat lynx]

silksong players gotta step it up, honestly

[jagged yew]

I have never used it aside from when I couldn't use anything else

[arctic epoch]

it isn't the optimal build, but i ain't here to judge

[bronze oasis]

guys who wana see hypertorus

[north ore]

I dont know what an "optimal build" is

I just use what feels right

thats why cogflies are on fucking everything except the one crest with no red slots

[flat lynx]

what could that possibly be bro

[flat lynx]

vesticrest

[cunning geode]

good because otherwise you’d be the last to judge

[flat lynx]

anything for the cogfly slot

[flat lynx]

last.. judge..

[arctic epoch]

like... a last judge?

[cunning geode]

👹

[jagged yew]

I never build for optimal gameplay, I build for the most convenience

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-flea-awoo-absolute-cinema-absolute-awoo-gif-13929526023089152064

[earnest drift]

chat dead

[flat lynx]

fr

[glacial sage]

fr

[mellow sinew]

perhaps

[glacial sage]

Maybe

[north ore]

LETS FRIGGIN GOOOOOO

[fossil socket]

why is it dead

[radiant quail]

Nice number

[fossil socket]

nice

[earnest drift]

in my opinion, one of the biggest missed opportunities in hollow knight was killing off pale king. radiance and pale king were the largest factors in Hallownest’s history, but pale king was much more complex then radiance. so having pale king dead by the time the story started and having the radiance as the big bad we’re fighting works, but feels like wasted potential.

silksong changes this; the weavers and grand mother silk are the largest factors of pharloom’s history, the weavers being more one-note than grand mother silk. and thankfully, grand mother silk is the one we get to see alive and fight, resulting in a much more satisfying act 2 ending and act 3 plot.

[radiant quail]

Get a job

[fossil socket]

thats a lot ._.

[flat lynx]

tbf this is the silksong discussion channel

[radiant quail]

We know

[still osprey]

God forbid people talk about silksong in the silksong channel

[weak depot]

rip my pookie

[still osprey]

Let's talk about a good game instead like Hollow Knight

[earnest drift]

I like this dialogue

[radiant quail]

[earnest drift]

it makes radiance feel a bit more malicious and conscious

doesn’t make up for the rest of her character

[radiant quail]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-floppy-hornet-slap-nuu-gif-11086988873395759079

[weak depot]

radiance is actively influencing normal bugs to kill the knight

there are more tidbits i know of

[earnest drift]

is she, or do infected bugs always attack uninfected bugs

[weak depot]

let me get the dreamnail then I'll show you some

[radiant quail]

How many more messages do I have to send before the photo feature unlocks?

[earnest drift]

it makes sense for her to focus them on the knight because she knows they’re a threat

[weak depot]

300 total

[worldly tree]

fight me

[earnest drift]

based

[weak depot]

they do, but the dreamnail dialogue of some explicitly mention killing of the knight

[earnest drift]

really? I thought it was just myla

[radiant quail]

I think I've already sent over 150 messages but voice chat won't unlock

[weak depot]

u do have vc

[still osprey]

Solid list, I don't see a lot I heavily disagree with

[radiant quail]

Yes

[weak depot]

not just myla, some other bugs as well

[worldly tree]

ty

[earnest drift]

can you show me

[still osprey]

Tho I don't think Palestag is that bad especially if you use Clawline, Tacks and Voltvessels

[radiant quail]

Oh wait now it's unlocked

[worldly tree]

i just feel like it’s boring

[radiant quail]

I'm stupid

[weak depot]

i dont remember off the top of my head which bugs. I'll keep posting here. Let me get the dreamnail first, then I'll show you

[worldly tree]

like an annoying nothing burger

[still osprey]

Yea that's fair it's not a very interesting fight

It's like No Eyes but slightly better imo

[worldly tree]

yea

[earnest drift]

you get it

[worldly tree]

except no eyes has aura

palestag not so much

[earnest drift]

she does not lol

[still osprey]

Palestag is just some random thing that probably never even actually existed thanks Green Prince

[earnest drift]

you need radiance level aura to make up for that bad gameplay

[worldly tree]

real

[worldly tree]

radiance isn’t thattttt bad

i enjoyed it

also shouldn’t we sensor

[earnest drift]

oh radiance gameplay isn’t as bad as no eyes I didn’t mean that

[arctic epoch]

Radiance is FUCKING HORRENDOUS.

-# and i think SIlksong is nice

[worldly tree]

since it’s not silksong

[neon geyser]

no

[worldly tree]

shhh

[lavish apex]

no eyes > palestag

[earnest drift]

(she does kind of teleport around a bunch of platforms though)

[weak depot]

there are a lot of instances of radiance's rage being shown through bugs. it's very interesting to see her hatered

[radiant quail]

Chat, who wants to play Silksong in voice chat? (Even though I'll mute my mic anyway)

[still osprey]

Spoiler tags aren't required in this channel, only in the help channels

[earnest drift]

who does she hate

[lavish apex]

radiance gameplay is good

[weak depot]

The pale king

and the entirity of hallownest

[earnest drift]

but he’s dead

[still osprey]

Radiance gameplay is good
AbsRad gameplay not so much

[weak depot]

not at the hands of her though

[lavish apex]

absrad is weird

[earnest drift]

do you think she’s angry she didn’t get to kill him

[weak depot]

Absrad is fun

[lavish apex]

like
i think she's a fun fight
but i don't think she's very well designed

[radiant quail]

Chat, who wants to play Silksong in voice chat? (Even though I'll mute my mic anyway)

[weak depot]

It's my headcanon yeah, and probably canon in someway

[unkempt steeple]

me

[lavish apex]

split lasers in phase 1 is the most bullshit rng reaction time test i've seen in any metroidvania and the way some of her stuff can overlap feels a bit unfair

[still osprey]

Which map is more useless Grand Gate or Verdania

[sturdy plover]

Id say Grand Gate I always forget it's an area

[vestal flicker]

Grand gate

pay 80 rosaries for my shit

[lavish apex]

i kinda feel a similar way about lost lace although she's not nearly as hard so it doesn't feel as annoying

[vestal flicker]

it would be more worth it

[still osprey]

Thankfully it's only 40

[vestal flicker]

oh they were generous

[still osprey]

Cradle is 70 tho 😭

[sturdy plover]

40 for 10m³

[lavish apex]

and all of her stuff feels pretty reasonably reactable outside of when you literally can't see the telegraphs

[delicate ice]

||I made you click. Haha L bozo||

[still osprey]

You know Cradle probably is the most useless map

[still osprey]

At least Grand Gate has Seth and Nyleth

[sturdy plover]

||OH did you click too||

[still osprey]

Cradle is like 4 rooms in a straight linear line

[fossil socket]

wheres the shaman crest again

[still osprey]

ruined chapel

[wicked cedar]

I'm annoyed at how they changed the hunter dash attack

[still osprey]

you need silk soar

[wicked cedar]

It used to let you do a follow up attack

[still osprey]

it still does doesn't it?

[wicked cedar]

Deltarune 🥹

[fossil socket]

kk ty

[wicked cedar]

Nah

[unkempt steeple]

deltarune in one hour

[wicked cedar]

Yes yes yes

[radiant quail]

[unkempt steeple]

The hour before deltarune and silksong

[weak depot]

haha spooky number

[wicked cedar]

💎

[wicked cedar]

On the same day 🥹

[delicate ice]

Nah

[still osprey]

not really well shown but like you can attack immediately after

[radiant quail]

[radiant quail]

You jumpscared him

[wicked cedar]

Yeah but you used to hit them and move backwards into the air then you could do a follow up attack that was cool

[leaden delta]

Oh yea u can act out of hunter dash attack immediately

it’s one of the things that make that crest so cool

[karmic quarry]

||never gonna give you up never gonna let you down never gonna run around or desert you||

[lavish apex]

wanderer has that

that might be what you're thinking of?

[radiant quail]

Fuck you

[karmic quarry]

HEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHE

[radiant quail]

[weak depot]

i never really thought of this but who/what is this

a moth?

[unkempt steeple]

that's me

[wary storm]

seer

[earnest drift]

did I you find what other enemies are meant to specifically kill the knight

and yes that’s the seer

[unkempt steeple]

wish I got to be a patreon backer so I could have my message in there...

[earnest drift]

goated character but I don’t like how she loredumps the radiance only at the very last essence milestone

[still osprey]

What a good boss, I hope the next one is just as good!

[weak depot]

oh yeaaa

[knotty vapor]

has anyone every tried a "parries only" modded run

[broken seal]

Nyleth is good

[copper hedge]

holy shit its fire
https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/D2SqO8xco8

[earnest drift]

nyleth is fine

[unkempt steeple]

chill on nyleth she's cool too...

[weak depot]

i forgot seer

[unkempt steeple]

what does she see

[still osprey]

Nyleth is, fine

[knotty vapor]

Nyleth is 👅

[broken seal]

one of the more fun hitless bosses imo

[earnest drift]

hk lore is so cool

I love the vessels and pale king and white lady and the hollow knight and hornet

[unkempt steeple]

the only heart boss I think is underwhelming is clover dancers bc they don't really have any gimmick or are an original boss fight

they're just the cogwork dancers' fifth and sixth phases

[wary storm]

i thought silksong would be something drastically different in terms of lore

[still osprey]

ok I went into this with the absolute wrong build but I survived

[earnest drift]

it’s like
similar to hk but twisted and flipped

[wary storm]

like "court of the crimson king" but game

[earnest drift]

instead of pale king we have weavers who took a bad kingdom and made it way worse

instead of a chaotic mindlessly destroying goddess we have a tragically imprisoned one who’s desperate to escape a fate worse than death

[wary storm]

with a LOT of npcs, quests, small things we might hunt, walk to the citadel being something more like a walk than a fight

[slender juniper]

Why does the longpin do the same damage as straight pin but has les capacity TC WHAT THE FUCK

Oops accidental ping sorry

[earnest drift]

instead of an infection robbing bugs of their sentience, the haunting lets them keep their intelligence, behaviour, speech and tasks

[signal cypress]

Dw it's fine

[wary storm]

like witcher 3 but in bizzare bug world with shitton of stuff happening at the same time

[slender juniper]

But this is just proof TC cant balance their games

[earnest drift]

I really like that about the haunting

[signal cypress]

Idk ask them

[earnest drift]

yeah this is abysmal

why does a javelin deal the same damage as a THROWING KNIFE

it’s phantom’s weapon though so points for that

[signal cypress]

Probably because they're both sharp objects

[still osprey]

Bro where are my craw summons

[signal cypress]

Idk

[earnest drift]

will absolute grand mother silk be better than absolute radiance

or will it be no eyes 3.0

[slender juniper]

And it has less capacity as the throwing knife,340 max damage straight pin has 408 max damage ,THIS SHITS FUCKING USELESS

[lavish apex]

probably because of the piercing effect

[earnest drift]

I only use it for Karmelita and Seth because I don’t use beast

just buff the dmg it’s a spear for Christ’s sake

[slender juniper]

Doesnt save it all USELESS

This level of non balance is crazy

[unkempt steeple]

how many times is the piercing effect useful

[slender juniper]

Never

[earnest drift]

Seth, Karmelita, certain mini bosses

[lavish apex]

it makes rhinogrunds slightly less dogshit

[earnest drift]

sometimes good for the big guys in underworks

[slender juniper]

Silksong is the most unbalanced game of 2025

Like im legit dissapointed

BALANCE YOUR FUCKING TOOLS

[unkempt steeple]

there are like three of those tho

[lost cobalt]

Have you played hollow knight

[slender juniper]

Yes unfortunetly,the most unbalanced metroidvania

[lean yoke]

Gosh karmelita is so fun

[earnest drift]

hk is generally more unbalanced than sk, but at least it didn’t have the all-hit build…

[lost cobalt]

Silksong is way less unbalanced but there's still plenty bad tools

[slender juniper]

Longpins legit make me wanna make a balance mod

[earnest drift]

what would you change about longpin

[slender juniper]

Litteraly just for it to 7 base damage instead of 5

[still osprey]

100% 🫡 Just got a few more bosses to fight and I'm done with this playthrough

[arctic epoch]

Lace suckass

[earnest drift]

so max dmg would be 24?

[slender juniper]

Yes

[earnest drift]

where did this come from

[unkempt steeple]

I wasn't there for hk pre-dlcs, did the extra 12% come after dlc?

[lean yoke]

Do all of the dream sequences just make it so that you have to do the whole cutscene every time you retry ;-;

[slender juniper]

24×20=480 max dmg which is a pretty fine number

[arctic epoch]

take a wild guess,

[lean yoke]

Or is it just the fact that karmelitas dream just doesn't have a bench

[slender juniper]

Yes thats how percentages work

[earnest drift]

radiance suckass

[slender juniper]

Go back to math class

[arctic epoch]

wanderer suckass

[slender juniper]

Hornet suckass

[earnest drift]

architect suckass

[unkempt steeple]

[arctic epoch]

y'all suckass

[earnest drift]

pilby suckass

[unkempt steeple]

every crest sucks if you're using any crest you're playing the game wrong

[signal cypress]

Silk suckass

[weary crest]

the the funny yellow juice is so wierd cause it makes you attack faster but making you run faster messes up ALL your muscle memory

[signal cypress]

Crestless mod

[weary crest]

so it somewhat balances out.

[arctic epoch]

Termite Regurgitator 9000 suckass

[slender juniper]

Flea brew is great for parkour and combat

[earnest drift]

the knight suckass

[unkempt steeple]

flea brew is great for drowing your pain

[earnest drift]

pure vessel suckass

[lean yoke]

So like the entire game

[arctic epoch]

lace (not a ragebait) he 8:32 PM suckass

[slender juniper]

Speedruning skips god bless flea brew

[weary crest]

combine with wanderer crest and cope chug your way through fights

[signal cypress]

Pale wyrm suckass

[earnest drift]

your time zone is bad
you should move

[signal cypress]

Weaver suckass

[arctic epoch]

YOUR timezone suckass

[unkempt steeple]

y'all got timezones?

[lean yoke]

"so like yeah flea brew is great for everything"

[indigo eagle]

What is Berserk even about man

[bronze oasis]

yeah

[weary crest]

demons

[signal cypress]

No we got coral

[unkempt steeple]

flea brew makes you have crazy hangovers tho

[lean yoke]

I don't fucking like red tools, I go in bare nail and pray

[unkempt steeple]

sloooop, I prefer sand

[earnest drift]

Tom | Coven’s advisor SCUG suckass

[weary crest]

i am most sucessfull in bossfights if i try like 3 times then just go to bed and try the next day

[signal cypress]

Go to the beach then

[lean yoke]

And flea brew messes up my muscle memory so like skill issue to me but I'll play how I want

[signal cypress]

Grand mother silk suckass

[reef mortar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/GzSqhI36qq

Bruh... Gamer

"100 hours of Re9 vs 1000 hrs of DbD/League of Legends" ass argument

[weary crest]

yeah although it does seem like something thats not TO hard to adjust to + the speed is REALLY nice for combat

[formal scroll]

Man i really wish i could use the grand mother silk crest

[lean yoke]

Excuse you I know how to do tech

[arctic epoch]

lace_songsilk . he/him aka lace (not a ragebaiter) he 8:34 PM
-# Tom | Coven's advisor SCUG suckass

suckass

[lean yoke]

Can someone teach me witch crest tech

[bronze oasis]

guys who likes triangles

[still osprey]

Hunter does nothing until midgame
Reaper has no benefit
Wanderer's too easy
Beast's pogo sucks ass
Witch's needle speed is awful
Architect's movement is awkward
Shaman's binding sucks

Let's just face it, all crests are dogshit

[formal scroll]

So like you gotta press the binf key and

[lean yoke]

Do I legit just spam the dash attack

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[slender juniper]

Silksong balance mod:
Reaper crest rework to make it good
Long pin does 24 damage instead of 17
Egg of flelia works at all times
Delvers drill total damage nerfed from 98 to 70
And its capacity nerfed from 18 to 15

[formal scroll]

Hey dont hate reaper crest its pretty good i used it for my entire first pplaythrogh

[reef mortar]

Dash, pogo has some I-frame, Withc's Needle art is Nasty af

[still osprey]

I love craw summons I love craw summons I love craw summons

[bronze oasis]

triangle for people liking triangles

[lean yoke]

Ohhhh wait I never checked witch needle art

[arctic epoch]

• Reaper is sluggish and gets outperformed by everything, its unique ability is trash, silk orbs doesn't even auto-collect
• Hunter has the weirdest pogo with its unique ability being so fragile it breaks in one hit
• Wanderer is a nostalgia-bait and generic crest, ass range + unique ability supports gambling???
• Beast is a dumbass facetanking boss, worse effects if you don't force damage, with a pogo that fling you like a damn yoyo
• Witch has the survival rate of a flea, wym i can only bind if i hit an enemy? Also why is my needle slashes delayed? And what the hell is a high-level gameplay?
• Architect is the most cheesy, skill issue, tool spamming crest to ever be made
• Shaman appears so late and the extra silk skill won't even be used the mass majority, they only care about the +40% silk damage which doesn't even apply to the slow ahh elegy slash
• Unarmed crest is weirdo-bait, legit could have covered Hornet up with a piece of Cloth. Had to walk in there bare-limbed
• Cursed crest is woke propaganda, why do we even have a separate ending for it???
• Weaver crest supports parentel negligence 😭

[weak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-skong-gif-16335370890033522618

[slender juniper]

Unfortunetly its not

[unkempt steeple]

That bind during the web attack is crazy

[formal scroll]

Youre just stating the cons bro

[slender juniper]

Reaper is viable to use but its just not comparable to others

[formal scroll]

Just use anything you find fun

[reef mortar]

• Don't play this game, Everything sucks

[arctic epoch]

there's a fucking pros to unarmed crest? 🙏

[formal scroll]

Yeah like how you can m1 with it

Reaper isnt all that bad, sluggish yes but its an all rounder crest whos decent at everything

And the BEST at pogo hell yeah

[weak depot]

In conclusion, the internet sucks

[arctic epoch]

Witch:
Hunter:

[arctic epoch]

precisely, friend

[bronze oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-monsters-vs-aliens-blob-monster-i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-gif-27360547

[fossil socket]

Architect -

[formal scroll]

You JUST said hunter has the weirdest pogo

[arctic epoch]

i didn't say it's the WORST pogo

[formal scroll]

Yeag but i prefer reapers more lowk

[bronze oasis]

nevermind I forgot

[arctic epoch]

doesn't make it the best pogo tho

[formal scroll]

Cause its big and wide and it helps you pogo onto enemies better

Hunter has its pros its very satisfying when you land em yesyes

[bronze oasis]

it is good tf u mean

[formal scroll]

But like for me its just a little worse than reaper, but i do use hunter from time to time

[arctic epoch]

Take the pixel-precise damageless tech and combine it with stupid dedication

Imaginery techmaxxing: Witchslop spogo

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[formal scroll]

Im not even talking about damage bro

Im not tryna min max everyhing i just wanna have fun

And i like reapers cause its very friendly with its pogos

Hunters a close 2nd too i like it

[weak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-pondering-my-orb-my-orb-orb-pondering-my-pondering-my-orb-orb-gif-24060364

https://tenor.com/view/this-server-fucking-sucks-gif-4777545444098374680

[formal scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071533012879159458/1466010573090197604/togif-14.gif

[sand epoch]

I agree wonder of u

[formal scroll]

Anyways can we talk about somethign else

Like uh..... map design and atmosphere yeah

Or mementos idk

[still osprey]

Shots that go kinda hard

[formal scroll]

Im just gonna go bro

[still osprey]

Since when can you push lillypads in verdania without dashing into them???

[sand epoch]

“I shall not disturb you any longer” goes into dream and rips out his heart

[slender juniper]

Hunter has the best pogo

Its so peak

[still osprey]

I understand why Verdania has no benches considering it's a memory but man I wish it had at least a bench

[unkempt steeple]

I quite like verdinia and coral tower, hope they add more memories like that

[still osprey]

me too

[unkempt steeple]

Beast pogo>>>>

[still osprey]

I think that's every boss except lost lace done this playthrough 🫡

[near mirage]

how do i beat pinstress dawg

[odd hull]

True. I can't play hk anymore because of that

[cerulean sable]

reaper crest rework:

hitting stuff causes them to get the "sow" debuff (up to 3 max) denoted by them flaking silk
binding consumes all that stack and is proportional to how much you heal
per stack, binding "reaps" the silk out of all the debuffed enemies and they take damage + explode

call it "reap what you sow"

[stable mica]

totally not a sea of sorrow thing

[cerulean sable]

sea of sorrow will add the anchor crest

which is another slow heavy attack wtv crest type

[still osprey]

🫡 5th 100% playthrough done

[stable mica]

anchor is a double head scythe

[strange knot]

Nice

[stable mica]

so still reaper upg

[stable mica]

no way 11 hr

[still osprey]

godddd I love this game so much I really do

[stable mica]

thats actually insane

[strange knot]

100% wr is like 4:50:xx

[still osprey]

This is modded so I have some qol features like faster text and cutscene skipping etc

I think next playthrough is going to be completely unmodded since I'm planning on streaming it to a friend

[weak depot]

It's so small tho 😭😭

[still osprey]

mostly for the map to update tbh since I still get lost in there sometimes 🔥

[cerulean sable]

i gen lowkey need DLC soon

for me christmas is now seeing a game i like throw 2 pages worth of balance changes

[unkempt steeple]

I'm guessing no silksong at the indie world?

Didn't watch it

[split cape]

yes

[vestal vault]

it probably was full of cozy farming sims

[haughty ingot]

damn i really thought this will be the one (i say lying)

[unkempt steeple]

I ain't seeing anybody talk about it anywhere so I guessed so

[split cape]

generic horror game
generic multiplayer game
generic first person shooter
generic survival game
blah blah blah all bunch of boring shit

[midnight jasper]

I did so many Songclave quests

Got another spool extender thing idk what it was called

[unkempt steeple]

Having your game outside a main direct has to be some kind of humilation ritual

[midnight jasper]

By going into Whiteward

I got the Tacks as well and did 4 of the Great Taste of Pharloom quest

The only one im missing is the Crustnut

Though I defeated the Great Conchflies and got the Needle Strike so the path is open for that

[hexed vapor]

Did we get it

[median dove]

Silksong never
...wait.

[hexed vapor]

I couldn’t watch the direct I was driving

[median dove]

No

[split cape]

no, crash your car

[hexed vapor]

:(

ok…

[split cape]

https://klipy.com/gifs/peter-family-guy-throwing-his-car-off-a-cliff-nosolohit

[unkempt steeple]

We seriously still believe sea of sorrow is ever releasing?

[midnight jasper]

Did they release a date yet

[unkempt steeple]

2026 but no month

[wary storm]

idk no clue maybe something would hint it

[thorny vessel]

do someone wants to play silksong coop? it will be funny

[radiant coyote]

may i ask why groal exists

[still osprey]

To serve as a challenge to test you for the endgame

[unkempt steeple]

To be the greatest of all time

[toxic vigil]

Hello!

[fossil socket]

hi

[finite swift]

I need the GREEN PRINCE to THROW IT BACK

I wonder what is considered "hot" in bug standard

Probably tall and shiii

[verbal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-hollow-knight-gif-8691405304708562462

[plucky jungle]

Headmaster why just why

[finite swift]

Green Prince is probably hot by bug standard

[finite swift]

GREEN PRINCEEEEE

[plucky jungle]

Well if even men are in to him then maybe

[finite swift]

Slim, tall and can dance he's gonna pull everyone

[plucky jungle]

You know what you’re right

[finite swift]

Hes gonna pull Khann

Fruuuxkkkkku😭😭😭😭✌✌✌😭😭😭 ✌✌ ✌✌

[plucky jungle]

Fr I wouldn’t be surprised if someone made some toxic yaoi
of those to

[radiant coyote]

FINALLY BEAT GROAL

[still osprey]

ggroal

[plucky jungle]

Nice but I forgot to tell you there’s an easy way to skip him

[radiant coyote]

i dont do skips

[plucky jungle]

I respect it

[still osprey]

There's no way to skip groal on current patch I don't think

[smoky bridge]

Groal is tbh, not too bad. (Go, my lightning blast)
Ass Jim, on the other hand.

[plucky jungle]

Oh right there was a bug fix recently

[smoky bridge]

Ass Jim is terrifying. It feels like the globs of maggot slop are so much harder to dodge.

And one impact from the glob reduces Beast Crest Hornet from heat-seeking Industrial Shredder to coughing baby.

I have resolved to never again do Ass Jim without the wreath. Or at least with a different crest, I guess.

[plucky jungle]

I finally figured out how to change my display name

[still osprey]

Lugoli is really not that bad you just dash out of the way

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but specifically on Beaft (my beloved) just one mistake kills your whole game plan.

[plucky jungle]

Yeah as long as you don’t wait until act 3 he isn’t that hard

[plucky jungle]

Just get the ring of purity

[smoky bridge]

Alas, I was trying to get Lugoli earlier and got stubborn.

[plucky jungle]

Don’t you need the fay down cloak to get to lugoli and wreath of purity

[silver topaz]

Ts still alive?

[plucky jungle]

And the wreath of purity is a only a 15 min detour

[smoky bridge]

I am aware. I beelined for Luigi cause I wanted the oil faster.

• I was really hesitant to use my only blue slot on the wreath, even tho It'd have definitely been the best choice.

[still osprey]

wow this boss gets really destroyed if you have the right gear

[subtle lynx]

That applies to all

[still osprey]

very true

[subtle lynx]

But you don't need wreath for that boss at all

[smoky bridge]

It's a lot like going at Nyleth or Father of the Flame with a bad build that doesn't suit the boss, but you don't wanna change cause you like what you got, yk?

[verbal steeple]

i don't use wreath. i don't use magma bell. i go in raw

[plucky jungle]

Wait doesn’t lugoli get possessed by void in act 3 I see the curvesickle

[verbal steeple]

and if i die i get gud

[still osprey]

yea I used the pantheon of pharloom mod to refight them

[verbal steeple]

she died so fast she couldn't void

[verbal steeple]

oh.

[still osprey]

tho I didn't use any red tools so it doesn't matter

[smoky bridge]

Do not fight the tree with architect btw

Awful, terrible

[verbal steeple]

architect down pogo does the same damage as naked crest against father of the fllame

[dapper elm]

Why does every platforming in ||act 2|| feel like white palace from HK 😑...

[verbal steeple]

tho the normal attacks DO work

[steady blaze]

How much attempts did first sinner take you guys?

[subtle lynx]

Really? I don't think there's any parkour in this game as hard as white palace or even comparable

[plucky jungle]

I did and beat her first try

[subtle lynx]

A lot

[smoky bridge]

Yeah, cuts your damage significantly, and you get less range without charging, and it's hard to dodge cause you have bad aerial.

[still osprey]

she took me a bit I remember

[subtle lynx]

Maybe half an hour?

[steady blaze]

How did you beat it then

[subtle lynx]

Or more

[smoky bridge]

Farba of Da flame. Not Nyleth

[subtle lynx]

Reaper crest

And sprinting

[smoky bridge]

Like three.

[subtle lynx]

I did not use red tools

[smoky bridge]

Beaft Crest.

[steady blaze]

Im also trying reaper

[dapper elm]

Are you for real...? Maybe you became way too good after HK.. but they are definitely as hard as white palace..

[smoky bridge]

Just keep hitting em.

[steady blaze]

Every attempt takes 20 minutes

[subtle lynx]

Maybe that's true, but I don't so still, which section is as long as WP?

[steady blaze]

To get to 2nd phase

[steady blaze]

Cradle?

[subtle lynx]

From the top of my head, only Bilewater comes

[subtle lynx]

Idk, white palace took me a long ass time

[still osprey]

what about it

[dapper elm]

Ya, they are not long but sections like mount fay, clockwork areas, bilewater etc etc are so tedious

[subtle lynx]

The thing is, second phase is not that different

I think it just adds the rune attack

[still osprey]

if you mean the border caves they're not even close to white palace difficulty

and white palace is already pretty easy

[steady blaze]

Its faster

I also beat it right now

Finaly

[smoky bridge]

I did Beast Crest, circlet, straight pin to interrupt healing, and flint for piling on more damage.

[plucky jungle]

Yeah the border caverns aren’t to hard

[dapper elm]

Also who are searching "mount Gay" on Google???

[subtle lynx]

Mount fay was tedious because it had lot of pauses in between, but clockwork goes straight to the point and Bilewater is kind of fun idk. Hornet's a much more enjoyable character overall. I like her movement a lot more than the knight's

[steady blaze]

Idk i didn't get there i just heard its the hardest parkour in silksong

[smoky bridge]

Yellows are largely irrelevant, but I like scuttlebrace

[dapper elm]

Bosses feel more calm/easier than overworld of silksong to me

[smoky bridge]

Yeah she is much more fluid and gets more combos.

[subtle lynx]

That's because the knight is more limited in movement

So they have to be too

[subtle lynx]

And in healing

[dapper elm]

My fingers.. it hurts

[steady blaze]

They dont HAVE to be

[smoky bridge]

I still think they should reduce the start lag of Beast Pogo

It's not even that it is bad, it's just misleading.

There's a good chunk of frames where she's visually got her claws out but it's not actually dealing damage or providing I frames, like it should

[subtle lynx]

Would be nice

[dapper elm]

Maybe they made the game thinking "ppl will play HK before silksong"

[subtle lynx]

I'm going to do a play through with every crest

But there's a little parkour section

Before you get to a bench in shellwood

[dapper elm]

Rip with ||beast|| pogos

[subtle lynx]

That's literally impossible with beast credt

I'm not kidding

It's so vertical that you don't have an angle

And it's so trivial with any other crst

[knotty vapor]

AU where Garmond's "Sancho" is Hornet

[subtle lynx]

I think you should be able to do everything with any crest

[dapper elm]

The crast is so azz even the beastfly beats its head to the wall

[steady blaze]

Its also just good game degisin

[smoky bridge]

It's actually 100% possible, I do it on the reg

You can shorten the arc by tilting your joystick opposite, once you initiate the down slash.

[leaden delta]

You can do rvetything with beast

[subtle lynx]

Damn

Didn't know that

[leaden delta]

you can also extend the arc by doing the opposite

[smoky bridge]

I am the Beast Enthusiast. :v

My fav crest.

[smoky bridge]

Did they fix the circlet spam yet, or is it still in the game btw?

[dapper elm]

It

[smoky bridge]

Too bad my fav blorbo's silkshot is literally the worst. I demand buff to arch' silkshot.

I also want the snare setter back :(

[verbal steeple]

team cherry has to be purposely ragebaiting with some of these stuff

like the arch silkshot LITERALLY does less damage than forge daughter EVEN if all 3 hits hit.

and has LESS capacity

[still osprey]

this is awesome

[smoky bridge]

Yep. And it has a longer attack IIRC

[leaden delta]

they/it I just couldn’t find a heart image for it

[cursive torrent]

Just like chara UT :3

[cunning geode]

bottom left flag?

[smoky bridge]

I use all pronouns for archi.

Well, almost all.

[still osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-hollow-they-them-gif-9035642985040867451

[leaden delta]

femme

[cunning geode]

THEY/THE M

[cursive torrent]

THEY/THE M

[still osprey]

THEY/THE M

[verbal steeple]

THEY/THE M

[leaden delta]

https://x.com/barofsoap418/status/2028612511969554467

soap bar (@barofsoap418)

what if chara’s name before falling into the underground was chara kirk and they were charlie kirk’s kid and they climbed mount ebbot because charlie kirk didn’t support their non binary identity

X · Mar 2, 2026, 11:24 PM

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/203916307115147266/1410365766678872205/veryimpressive.gif

[cursive torrent]

This is the worst sentence ive ever read

[cunning geode]

i can one up that

[verbal steeple]

man there's a version of this which is just "an IQ TOO green?"

[versed pollen]

Undertale if it was a good game

[verbal steeple]

and i can't find it anywhere. and i'm starting to think i was hallucinating it

[cunning geode]

green like jumbo josh...

[steady blaze]

Then build it yourself

[smoky bridge]

Archnet.

Support my crack ship.

[cunning geode]

the true prince of verdania

[verbal steeple]

hornet can make lightning become poisonous

[cunning geode]

im trying to imagine what the analog of that would be chemically

oxidation?

[smoky bridge]

Very stinky lightning.

[leaden delta]

https://tenor.com/view/garten-of-banban-sonic-adventure-2-sonic-the-hedgehog-city-escape-sa2-gif-2500277271899021801

green like jumbo josh fuck yes…

[verbal steeple]

green like groal

[cunning geode]

you betcha

[leaden delta]

can they trace jumbo josh over z broly

[verbal steeple]

which Z broly gif tho

[wary drum]

Queens gardens x shellwood best ship

[verbal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-gif-5970580

[verbal steeple]

the best ship is zote's ship actually

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/jumbo-josh-garten-of-banban-dragon-ball-super-broly-gif-27686633

[wary drum]

No i prefer choral chambers x city of tears

[wary drum]

SON😭

[wary drum]

-# also ramadan munarahqkak too

[fossil socket]

OOOps

[leaden delta]

Idk do like the goku kamehameha and u make goku like freddy or smth

some other mascot horror big shot

[verbal steeple]

big shot?

we need sea of sorrow man

[cunning geode]

You need Sea of Sorrow because you enjoy Silksong
I need Sea of Sorrow so you stop talking about nice things you desire
We are not the same

[verbal steeple]

the more you have the more u crave

when we get zote boat we will crave city of steel

when we get city of steel we will crave a prequirrel game

yes WE

[lean yoke]

What the fuck was I trying to do????

[copper hedge]

Citadel gate pass
A fly just beat up my ass
Woken up my Bell Beast
'Cause I need, need
To get that Citadel gate pass

[lean yoke]

After I died I had to look at myself in the mirror and give myself a reality check

[copper hedge]

how i feel doing it vs what im actually doing

[coarse leaf]

why i cannot use voice chat in this server??

[smoky bridge]

My last steel soul run died on moorwing cause my controller disconnected gweh

[copper hedge]

you need a certain number of messages sent to get VC perms

[coarse leaf]

ohh

[copper hedge]

i forgot how many. does anyone know

[coarse leaf]

how much

[cedar trench]

that's like 30 minutes at best lost which is a bummer but whatevervs

[smoky bridge]

I mean I woukdn't have gotten far, probably, considering my next (non-steel soul) run had like. Six deaths in Sinner's road cause I randomly forgot how to pogo.

[copper hedge]

150

[coarse leaf]

bruh💀

[copper hedge]

300 for image perms

[smoky bridge]

Tbh this is owed entirely to my unwillingness to take off the Beast Crest.

[verbal steeple]

the hardest part of steel soul is act 1 btw

if u get through act 1 u will most likely be able to do the rest if you're careful

i did steel soul act 3 first try

as in. i never died in act 3

i took like over 20 tries to beat act 1

[verbal steeple]

even in the dream bosses actually. other than karm, i died once there because i wanted to test out shaman crest

[copper hedge]

i think act 1 becomes the hardest is because we got so used on act 2 and 3

[cedar trench]

act 2 is subtly difficult too

[verbal steeple]

act 1 is the hardest because u also have less movement skills

less masks. less tool in general.

[copper hedge]

and a weaker needle

[cedar trench]

it's also got the easiest battles in the game

[copper hedge]

pale oils at the citadel

[glacial kelp]

act 3 lowkey

[cedar trench]

you can upgrade your needle once

[copper hedge]

and thats it

[verbal steeple]

how the hell did mooshka get a pale oil for the flea games

why didn't he give it to us sooner 😭

like vro. no one in the flea group will use pale oil

[copper hedge]

hornet didnt ask for pale oil bc he never mentioned it

[smoky bridge]

Widow is way easier than I remembered her being tho.

[copper hedge]

so she doesnt know

[verbal steeple]

yeah but he coulda like. gifted it

[untold dune]

maybe he only found it in act 3

somehow

[verbal steeple]

the void gave him pale oil

[glacial kelp]

the flea games creates oil infamously

[untold dune]

yuh

[verbal steeple]

it came to him in a dream

or maybe the flea brew guy uses pale oil for the recipe

[copper hedge]

maybe he felt like "this is the best thing i could offer to the winner". ig it was a highly priced item to them

[verbal steeple]

so he just has a stack of em

[untold dune]

he performed the elegy of the deep and got the pale oil from a memory

[knotty vapor]

I hope TC doesn't do an "F.U." and make the DLC accessible only in Act 2 😭

[smoky bridge]

There's like two bosses I take off the Beast Crest for and It's the Trobbios

[verbal steeple]

i hope the DLC makes an act 4

it doesn't make sense to lock it behind act 2. but it also doesn't make sense for it to be in act 3

[smoky bridge]

Because he keeps hiding in the goddamn floor, and wasting my rage timer.

[verbal steeple]

since there's a SCREAMING LADY TEARING DOWN THE KINGDOM

there's no way hornet would just be like "i wanna take a swim"

[copper hedge]

act 4: rebuilding

pharloom city planning simulator

[glacial kelp]

there's already an act 4 wdym

[verbal steeple]

no there's an act 5

they skipped act 4

[copper hedge]

"4" scares them?

dear god...

[glacial kelp]

5 should scare them if anything

[smoky bridge]

Act 5, wherein Kratt builds the house of fleasures in pharloom.

[glacial kelp]

1st sin 2nd sent 4th chorus

[verbal steeple]

well 4 is considered an unlucky number in chinese culture

[fossil socket]

7 is gonna be a nightmare for em

[verbal steeple]

pharloom is chinese

[glacial kelp]

act 7, preceeded by:

[smoky bridge]

?

[copper hedge]

"help us take our fleas back from kratt. they left this side of fleatopia ever since Kratt built that large tourist settlement on the other side of the lake" -probably mooshka

[untold dune]

fuck it, sure, why not

[verbal steeple]

but what would hallownest be

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[copper hedge]

hallownest

[verbal steeple]

hallownest is florida

[smoky bridge]

German.

Why?

[verbal steeple]

they're both weird

[smoky bridge]

Was that the first thought.

I am befuddled by myself.

[light swan]

mio

[untold dune]

if anything is florida its bilewater

[verbal steeple]

fair

i can't believe florida is located in china

[copper hedge]

Download 5000 rosary beads for free in 5 picoseconds

g

[untold dune]

YOU WOULDNT DOWNLOAD A ROSARY BEAD? -anti-piracy ads

[smoky bridge]

Bayou

Rosary cannon is so cool I wish it wasn't agressively bad.

unloads entire wallet into a guy
They seem mildly annoyed at best

[untold dune]

i dont hate rosary canon because its bad, i hate it because its a waste of a simple key

[stable pilot]

It isn't

Its free rosaries

[smoky bridge]

Green Buge is not a percent tho.

[verbal steeple]

oh no the HORRORS

[smoky bridge]

You can just leave him alone. Good(?) ending.

[untold dune]

u have to pay 750 for one of the keys and you get less than that from the room

[verbal steeple]

better waste the simple key on rosaries and a rosary cannon than the GAY prince

[copper hedge]

whenever i try to do The Forum without my headphones on, High Halls OST would play in the entirety, while the majority of the enemies would sound like one of the first pilgrim enemies you encounter in act 1.

[stable pilot]

Hm true

[verbal steeple]

gay prince gives ZERO rosaries

[stable pilot]

Honestly completely fair

[smoky bridge]

... Does Green Buge Survive act 3 if you leave him in the Gay baby jail?

[untold dune]

yea

[smoky bridge]

Good ending. Someone has to let him out eventually

[stable pilot]

Gay baby jail?

Is that a reference

[smoky bridge]

Is gay, jail is small.

[copper hedge]

its gonna be Nuu. Nuu is curious

[untold dune]

yea but i dont even know what its referencing 😭

[stable pilot]

It's a gbj

Commonly used term for softlocks in Roblox obbies

[untold dune]

i mean it didnt come from roblox

[copper hedge]

excuse me. softlocks?

[stable pilot]

Definitely not

[copper hedge]

why would it softlock a roblox ooby?

[stable pilot]

Yeah softlocks

[valid sable]

It came from Simpleflips with Mario 64

[stable pilot]

The obby itself has softlocks

[verbal steeple]

mreow

[smoky bridge]

Ancient tumblr meme IIRC

[untold dune]

its used to describe a softlock, not to cause one

[stable pilot]

Makes total sense

[untold dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDa0MQErb4U this is the origin iirc

[copper hedge]

hmmm maybe tomorrow. its 12 am

wait. its already tomorrow

[smoky bridge]

Oh, Then I was wrong perhaps.

Woman who is wiritng a research paper on memes gets another fact wrong.

[copper hedge]

maybe in the daytime morning

bru

i just noticed ur pfp is artificer

[smoky bridge]

Sis
Yes it is

[tall surge]

i js realised how similar widows and tfs movesets are

[smoky bridge]

:v

[copper hedge]

welp gn. i hope i can get enough time to beat The Forum, Lace 2, and GMS for speedrun achievement.

[smoky bridge]

Good luck

[copper hedge]

tbf theyre both weavers. i wouldnt be surprised if that's their general movesets

[smoky bridge]

I only started using Beast Crest cause the noises Hornet makes when enraged are funny, but it is so good.

Tho I do enjoy the potential thematic link to Herrah.

Evil fun fact: Flea Brew does nothing on Beast Crest.

I realised it recently.

[arctic epoch]

it does, just by a little bit

[broken seal]

it does outside of bind, during bind it still does but the effect is much weaker

outside of bind it's still good tho

[verbal steeple]

honestly waste of red slot

just use flint slate

[broken seal]

fair lmao

[smoky bridge]

Yeah, You should Always Be Rawring

[broken seal]

flintslate and then the 2nd red tool can lowkey be anything, you're mainly just gonna go apeshit anyway so the other red tool barely matters

[smoky bridge]

If you are not in bind state, you're basically playing wonky hunter.

[radiant quail]

Get a job guys

[smoky bridge]

Delver's drill.

[smoky bridge]

Is my go to.

[verbal steeple]

delver's drill is a good choice since u can use it to platform aswell

assuming u have a skill issue on using beast crest for platforming

[smoky bridge]

Purely because landing a BC pogo positions you perfectly to follow up with drill.

[untold dune]

i tried, job market sucks ass

get a more relevant taunt

[smoky bridge]

Be quiet for several days :3

[lavish sedge]

Which crest is best?

[untold dune]

whichever u are more comfortable with

[lavish sedge]

Thats one of the most perfect ships tho

[arctic epoch]

probably water flow + focus jade

[grand adder]

Soo. Hows the chat going?

[lavish sedge]

Huh wait i sos actually out

[weary gorge]

Is beast crest pogo the most fun pogo

[grand adder]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-lying-wong-gif-5558347777370316415

[untold dune]

probably yea

[arctic epoch]

yeah, it's fun as hell to use ain't gonna lie

[wicked cedar]

Hornet silksong when the johnlow knight

[grand adder]

I dont want to tortue myself

[lavish sedge]

I WANT TO KNOW IS SILKSONG SEA OF SORROW OUT NOW

[weary gorge]

Hornet the hedgehog gotta go fast

[subtle lynx]

YES

[arctic epoch]

it's already been out for the last week

[grand adder]

SHE GOTTA GO SLOW🦈

[lavish sedge]

No way

I want to explode from exitment

[arctic epoch]

[grand adder]

WHEN WILL SEA OF FUCKING SORROW WILL RELEASE

[untold dune]

tomorrow

[cedar sigil]

why raigbait

ragebait*

[cerulean sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816306195500498974/1464468427644207114/caption.gif

[grand adder]

I JUST WANT SEA OF SORROW

Ari and William. Yall gotta lock in

[smoky bridge]

BC pogo is not that bad.

You just have to stop thinking of it as a pogo.
It's a dash attack in a funny hat.

[cedar sigil]

no

its not good in a single universe

[grand adder]

Ykw. Atleast we're not roblox

[cedar sigil]

yeh

[smoky bridge]

It's also not good but like. It's already the best crest, We can't have it all.

[cedar sigil]

wdym best crest

[smoky bridge]

(minor rage bait)

[cedar sigil]

u have no spells

[grand adder]

Atleast Team Cherry cares about the community

[cedar sigil]

ur right

[smoky bridge]

Beast Crest has spells???

[cedar sigil]

no pdfs

[smoky bridge]

One spell.

But that's basically all crests outside of that one

[cedar sigil]

all crest have one spell

[smoky bridge]

And the other one.

[cedar sigil]

ecept shaman

[smoky bridge]

And Archi (the other best crest)

[cedar sigil]

no

its not

[slender juniper]

To those that play nine sols,is there a way to reset skill points?

[cedar sigil]

idk

[smoky bridge]

Supremely boring fact: You can mine Shards with architect (you can mine with any crest, but architect is the fastest, cause it multihits the wall for some reason)

[cedar sigil]

idc

its still ahh

[smoky bridge]

Wanderer probably also can mine the walls decently well.

I mean you shouldn't mine the walls. It's stupid and a waste of time.

[cedar sigil]

yeah i main wanderer parry

[verbal steeple]

its not that bad actually

like i mean its BORING but u can get decent amounts of shards

[cedar sigil]

brother its meh

[verbal steeple]

if you're an architect user u don't have the right to call something meh

smh

[cedar sigil]

i am not an architect user

[slender juniper]

Im sorry but crests as a playstyle changers suck

[verbal steeple]

crest discourse time

[slender juniper]

The fact that there even is crest discourse means they are not implemented well

[verbal steeple]

everything can be discoursed really

[slender juniper]

I just hate them in a game deisgn sense

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234486640305897474/1311863078647889992/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[cedar sigil]

except racism

[slender juniper]

Theres meta in crests,this shouldnt happen

How hard is to balance a god damn game

[verbal steeple]

not that easy

have you ever balanced a game

[cedar sigil]

u either have a fast cresct with no rage or all rage no speed

[verbal steeple]

probably not that easy to fully balance something

i personally think the crests are fine

[cunning geode]

at first i was gonna say this would imply the opposite, but now i realize you're only trying to argue on purpose so i wont bother following up sorry

[slender juniper]

Im concepting one with a weapons system and my main focus on that is:balance betwee all of my 6 weapons

[cerulean sable]

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-silksong-second-sentinel-silksong-second-sentinel-sentinel-gif-18351220560611110151

[cunning geode]

wowie

[cedar sigil]

yo hell u make those

[slender juniper]

If you actually spend even 5 minutes of trying to balance a game its not that hard

[cunning geode]

must not get trolled

[cerulean sable]

i feel like my biggest issue with the Crest system in Silksong it is kinda has the same doctrinal aspect as WW2 Germany in which they assumed creating squads centered around MG42 was a good idea (it was not) whereas in other schools they prioritized giving each individual units some way to project fire power either through Semi Autos (Garands) or SMGs (PPSHKs)

I think in a way Silksong is similar, to some degree

[slender juniper]

Crests fail as a playstyle option because some are completly broken taking chalenge from the game or some suck making chalenge to the game

[slender juniper]

What the fuck

[cerulean sable]

ye

[cedar sigil]

why are we comparing a video game withh fucking ww2 and hitlers desicions

[cedar sigil]

their amazing

[cerulean sable]

because 12Archi Silkshot sucks

[cedar sigil]

debateable

[cunning geode]

ttacco is committing the "fight fire with confetti" strategy

[cerulean sable]

yeah exactly

[leaden delta]

I think that’s awesome you should keep doing that

[slender juniper]

Green prince suckass

[untold dune]

fun fact green prince made up his backstory to make you feel bad

[verbal steeple]

gyy green

[cerulean sable]

yall just mad hes green

and yall not

[verbal steeple]

he's green gaster

[unkempt steeple]

Little did he know hornet prefers gay targets

[elder pike]

Why is sinners road so spooky💔💔

[cunning geode]

its not easy being green

[terse stone]

it's called sinners road lmao, did you expect frolicking deer and cotton candy?

[untold dune]

uh, ye

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-green-rathalos-rathalos-feel-that-cat-car-window-gif-17466316165903804442

[elder pike]

YOU WOULD THINK WITH ALL THE CUTE BUGS ANOTHER CUTE BUG PLACE WOULD BE HERE

There are gremlins that bite me!

[keen solstice]

Architect and beast are guilty of this

[winter saddle]

well why are there cockroaches instead of sinners, thats false advertising

[unkempt steeple]

Wait I had no idea that crull and benjin die

[fiery burrow]

The best npcs 😔

[opaque sigil]

soon green rathalos will be real

[unkempt steeple]

Team cherry will pay if anyone else dies in sos

[regal isle]

What if the cockroaches are yhe sinners

[smoky bridge]

There's like one crest I think is bad and some people swear by it
I think the crests are well done personally.

[winter saddle]

then that would break the narrative im trying to build, so we'd have to ignore that

[regal isle]

Each crest fits a playstyle

[unkempt steeple]

They're clearly not the first sinners

[regal isle]

😢

[slender juniper]

And it fails at that

[slender juniper]

Theyre not

Crests are not welldone at all

[smoky bridge]

I used to think Beast is bad but then I learned and now It's my favourite bar none.

[winter saddle]

yeah you play architect crest if your playstyle is losing 5 times with another crest

[wheat berry]

I inhaled a bleach spray

[slender juniper]

They suck in game designers perspective

[slender juniper]

The idea of it is great,but it is not executed well

[hollow swallow]

bro gives himself a reaction, I cant' xd

[unkempt steeple]

Crests themselves? Great
How the game around them treats them? Horribly

[slender juniper]

You either are too powerful or too weak

[winter saddle]

they need way more balancing

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

Does this seem like a boss fight

Or a button spam

[winter saddle]

people will deadass look at this and tell you this is fair and good game design

[slender juniper]

For me the first rather

[hollow swallow]

just because a crest is weaker, doesn't mean it's not good or doesnt fit someone's playstyle. I wanna see you make 7 crests that are more or less balanced

[sick ravine]

Slowest fight with architect crest ngl

[slender juniper]

On it

[hollow swallow]

Oh?

[slender juniper]

Technically im on it already

[sick ravine]

Not on it

[winter saddle]

to be fair, criticism wouldnt exist if you were forced to do it better every time you criticized a piece of media

[slender juniper]

Im designing my own game with a weapons system way more balanced than the crests

[slender juniper]

After desiging your own game ,its hard to look at crests the same light again

[smoky bridge]

Beast is amazing for hyper aggressive play styles and has unmatched DPS output at the price of not being as good at platforming (which can be mitigated with tools and clawline use)

Wanderer is Diet Beast with more build variety

Architect is for people who like tools, and it does it's job amazingly. It's also surprisingly precise in platforming, if a bit sluggish.

Witch has funky long range attacks and makes you into an explosion.

Hunter is... Well I am not a big fan of hunter, the base moveset is amazing, one of the best and most fluid, but the gimmick is... Not good enough IMO.

Reaper is... The one I don't like.

Shaman is shaman. Is gud

[hollow swallow]

Sure, once you're done i'll test it myself

[smoky bridge]

O really think Reaper would benefit from some small spell buff, or a second silk skill slot.

[slender juniper]

How petty do you have to be to say this

[smoky bridge]

The issue is you don't get much more silk cause you are too slow. Reaper is the one crest I think is bad.

[hollow swallow]

Very.

Petty could be my middle name

[slender juniper]

It just need the bind to be buffed

[torpid schooner]

Why is Lugoli harder than GMS

[winter saddle]

i like agree with ur opinion of the crests but wanderer, and architect needs serious rebalancing

[hollow swallow]

actually that's not a bad idea

[smoky bridge]

The problem with reaper is that it's bind doesn't give you anything good, it just slightly offsets it's downside.

[strange knot]

Architect doesn’t need balancing that much. Red tools do

[slender juniper]

The reaper silk orbs need to give one half of silk instead of one third,and always give you 2 orbs

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[wary storm]

balanced and fair fight that surely wont just cheese the game due to its high damage output

[strange knot]

You can do this with every crest

[pseudo apex]

I managed to get conch cutter on my steel soul game

[winter saddle]

red tools in general are just way too broken

[strange knot]

That has 2 reds

[smoky bridge]

You do not need architect to tool spam a boss to death. I barely use the reload mechanic.

[unkempt steeple]

I tool spammed agaisnt groal with reaper

[slender juniper]

Red tools in this game are on thing that infuriate me ,LONGPIN IS LITTERALY WORSE THAN STRAIGHT FUCKING PIN

[unkempt steeple]

Only took me like 5 nail hits afterwards

[smoky bridge]

Threefold pin is also not good.

[hollow swallow]

that's why they cost shards to use. they're suppossed to be strong

[winter saddle]

a lot of red tools are just either straight shit or op

[slender juniper]

What the actual fuck

[strange knot]

The only thing reds are good for is skips and TC patch those

[wary storm]

we could have better red tools that would make fight better, rightnow you just spam all bullshit you have to deal 95% damage with them and then lasthit it with needle

[slender juniper]

Im legit dissapointed

[smoky bridge]

The one benefit of longpin is that you can spam down the rhino beetle in the funny far fields room

[unkempt steeple]

No wonder pondcatcher reed died

[winter saddle]

this is dishonest, shards are ez to get and being strong doesnt mean insta win a fight

[smoky bridge]

But it dies even faster to tacks

[slender juniper]

Thats its only,otherwise its max damage is lower than straight pins

[smoky bridge]

Yes, that is kinda what I was going at.

[slender juniper]

And not to mention how easy it is to miss

[smoky bridge]

Still deeply amused by how much hate Cogflies got. They ain't even that much gas.

[winter saddle]

my question is for the 9 years of development game, where were the testers? did nobody think to just spam the red tools, why were they so powerful, and why are they still

[slender juniper]

Con:low damage output
Pros,you dont have to aim, free damage on staggers boss rosrs

[wary storm]

idk maybe they had too little testers