sk-discussion

[graceful oyster]

This one wasn't intended to be funny

[untold dune]

fair then

[plush hatch]

erm

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-gif-21166005

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/katseye-embed-failure-solarz-katscord-emi-tanked-gif-390295082145032983

[plush hatch]

[orchid locust]

hey guys rate my mio fanart

[light swan]

ati canonically has hair coming out of her face

[minor sparrow]

Me when the silksong discussion is actually mio discussion

[glacial kelp]

activate windows is back 🥹

[midnight jasper]

What's shairpin

[light swan]

you dont waant to know

[midnight jasper]

I don't play mio

[untold dune]

well go fix that

[rocky jolt]

shartpin 😭

[graceful oyster]

Thanks Steve Jobless for putting both drunk driving and smoking Mio arts into the world

Your contribution will be remembered for ages to come

[graceful oyster]

Welcome to sk disc

[orchid locust]

i should post drunk driving mio in the server too

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[untold dune]

yes

[slender juniper]

Bruh,I would have just killed widow at 38 if I didnt die to her stupid bells

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-widow-hornet-bonk-arito-gif-13643966964603239778

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-that-was-unsportsmanlike-gif-23964739

[quartz gulch]

Coming back after some weeks, what the fuck is going on.

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/mio-game-memories-in-orbit-gif-16561756437831424516

[rocky jolt]

cristono ronldo brutally murders wayne rooney

[still osprey]

This is a great gif

[graceful oyster]

I can't find it, what's the "you can't talk about drunk driving here" text snippet?

Do you remember it?

[slender juniper]

If I get a perfect pace I can get needolin in 37 minutes

And that would be peak

[vast glade]

Hey, is that mio game worth it?

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[slender juniper]

Do you like platforming

[graceful oyster]

If you like precision platforming and metroidvanias

[vast glade]

Thats why i play hk

[graceful oyster]

And good sci fi stories

[graceful oyster]

Platforming in this game is vastly better than the platforming from either HK

[vast glade]

I guess,

[slender juniper]

Let others talk about mio

[quartz gulch]

"Actually I hate metroidvanias, they're never good, unlike Silksong"

[vast glade]

Actually been thinking of buying it for s while

[quartz gulch]

Objectively or subjectively?

[graceful oyster]

Number one way to support the devs is word of mouth

[graceful oyster]

Ummmm, I think subjectively it's objectively better

[slender juniper]

Unless the game gets overglazed

[untold dune]

illusion is much worse in this regard lol

[vast glade]

Then it must be fenomenal, because hks platforming is really good in my opinion

[graceful oyster]

No but seriously, it's just that Mio actually has way more platforming and it's much more fluid

[graceful oyster]

"Overglazing" when I have a 100% enjoyment rate from people who played the game via my word of mouth

[vast glade]

There aren’t actually that much platforming in hk

[graceful oyster]

Exactly

[quartz gulch]

The only game that is truly being overglazed is GTA VI, that shit isn't even out yet and people say it'll be the best game ever.

[untold dune]

i hope gta6 comes out and its only an 8/10 game

[vast glade]

I think it will flop

Hot take i know

[untold dune]

i do highly doubt that tbh

[rocky jolt]

top 10 things that will never happen

[untold dune]

if anything its going to make the top 10 most sold games instantly

[slender juniper]

Nine souls:60%combat 30% exploration,10% platforming
HK:35combat,35 exploration,30 platforming
Mio:50 exploration,30%platforming,20% combat

[vast glade]

Relative to the budget they gave it

Not in sales

[leaden delta]

hmmm I might actually disagree

[rocky jolt]

you know what it isnt going to flop too... a certain game that starts with the letter h... and is the third game of the main story...

[quartz gulch]

It's overrated before it will even come out, so either it'll suck or be decent. It won't flop though, since people are dead set that it will definitely be good. 60% of the buyers will get it at release (in the first 2-3 weeks). It will presumably also crash the stores, but that's just annoying.

[slender juniper]

@graceful oyster peak analysis

[vast glade]

I like how the platforming in hk is integrated in the platforming

[untold dune]

yeah, good thing i dont care about the gta franchise

[vast glade]

Not me either

[quartz gulch]

It will be Half Portal 1.

[vast glade]

Not really in to the shooting franchise

[slender juniper]

Hk platforming is slow,sk platforming is fast and fluid, mio is even faster and fluid

[graceful oyster]

I don't agree with those numbers no

[slender juniper]

You will agree with me

[leaden delta]

like I think hk actually works out a lot in its platforming systems

[vast glade]

Is the bosses good in mio?

[rocky jolt]

unironically that might exactly be what half life 3 is

[quartz gulch]

Sands of Karak are that, even if a bit too much for it to be my favourite area. Bilewater has a perfect balance imo.

[graceful oyster]

There's not a single one I dislike

[untold dune]

pretty much no misses

[graceful oyster]

There are ones that are a little pointless but they're not unfun

[untold dune]

there arent quite as many as in sk, so its more quality over quantity

[versed pollen]

If it doesn't have all the mechanics of modded Celeste could it possibly be a good platformer think about this

[vast glade]

Then they proably have a sale from me in the future

[quartz gulch]

Is it just now, or did this channel actually shift from crestslop, toolslop and bossslop to Mio, random ass gifs and whatever else?

[untold dune]

peak

[leaden delta]

ignoring the fact that wp is better than anything in ss, I feel like tc accidentally made it so that the hk system is very tight and responsive with a lack of momentum based things and spell stalling

[vast glade]

Gotta love a good boss

[leaden delta]

and that works reaaaally well when doing platforming stuff, esp when you start doing modded shit

[untold dune]

i mean this is a natural thing that happens everywhere

[quartz gulch]

The "fact" is VERY subjective though.

[untold dune]

epic discord invite embed fail

[quartz gulch]

I wouldn't say that, complaining is present very often.

[vast glade]

Its the art of conversations

[untold dune]

shrue

[leaden delta]

like despite silksong being newer and having more shit, I prefer mapping hk and I still have a lot of ideas, while im burnt the hell out on silksong I exhausted all my ideas that shit has nothing

[versed pollen]

Silksong removes animation canceling and honestly the game just feels worse because of it

[graceful oyster]

Went from lame-discussion to peak-discussion

[untold dune]

yeah hk has a better map design than sk imo

[radiant quail]

Silksong's bosses are even better than Hollow Knight's

[vast glade]

I kinda agree tho

[untold dune]

sk areas feel far too linear

[vast glade]

Hk had me hooked like nothing before and nothing after

[graceful oyster]

Guys you're never gonna believe this I think Mio's level design AND map design is better than both games

[untold dune]

valid

[quartz gulch]

I disagree with anything saying HK is better (in most aspects), it kinda just feels like nostalgia carrying.

[vast glade]

I don’t believe

[radiant quail]

I don't think

[graceful oyster]

Check it out for yourself I guess

[quartz gulch]

perfect

[vast glade]

Yeah i probably will

[leaden delta]

honestly yea

[untold dune]

i think mio has a better map design than hk and sk, as for level design im undecided

[graceful oyster]

By the way I have 850 hours across both HK games so this isn't a bias-born thing

[untold dune]

leaning toward sk for that

[leaden delta]

i like forget anim cancelling was a concept, but it explains a fair bit actually

[graceful oyster]

I should feel partial to HK/SS but I recognize that Mio does things better

[leaden delta]

well if someone wants to finance a hot tgirl i can review mio and fact check

[versed pollen]

Like what if you could cancel out of a harpoon and carry that momentum midair or some shit

[untold dune]

that one detail about mios map is probably the best part of the game

[graceful oyster]

One of the best

[quartz gulch]

Maybe it is? Flaws become visible with experience and newer things are most often more interesting. This isn't any critique, but bias is always present.

[leaden delta]

see i see the vision but why would you ever want to midair cancel that when u can just go through with it and then dash

[graceful oyster]

I know bias is always present but my point it it's not just inexperience

[quartz gulch]

You can cancel animations though. Have you not seen the Witch + Hurtingmyearssaw thing?

[vast glade]

What is ts even

[radiant quail]

Can you guys recommend a Metroidvania (other than Mio) as I can't find any decent ones? I've played HK, Silksong, Nine Sols (I still have to finish it) and Ori

[versed pollen]

Honestly the idea in my head was that it would carry momentum like in Celeste so you could pogo and go crazy far but TC would never program this

[untold dune]

its called a spogo damn

[graceful oyster]

MIO

[quartz gulch]

Anyways, never played MIO or even watched the trailer, so idk what this discussion is even about.

[graceful oyster]

Map design and level design

[quartz gulch]

Undertale

[untold dune]

not a metroidvania broskie

[vast glade]

No uh

[quartz gulch]

I mean that I have no clue what MIO is good at.

[radiant quail]

Other than Mio and Undertale😂

[versed pollen]

This is broke animation cancelling

[graceful oyster]

It's good at that

[vast glade]

Classics maybe

[untold dune]

yeah how about metroid lol

[vast glade]

Like metroid and stuff

[quartz gulch]

-# ssssshhh

[versed pollen]

I should be allowed to trigger a silk spear midway between doing something else and instantly stall myself

[vast glade]

Haven’t played them but they must have been good to name a franchise

[graceful oyster]

Funnily enough my understanding is that the Metroid games are actually not that great lol

[quartz gulch]

Okay, anyways, SS movement is one of the smoothest of most games I've played, I disagree.

[graceful oyster]

Worth considering playing because they helped birth the genre but they won't be a life-changing experience

[vast glade]

Totally agree

[untold dune]

i havent played it yet but a lot of people like rain world

[vast glade]

No, but when your out of options

[quartz gulch]

I think:
-backtracking
-upgrades
-exploring
-references
-bosses
-enemies
-whatever else

[graceful oyster]

RW is not a mvania

[radiant quail]

Recommend me one that isn't famous, because I don't like all the famous ones

[vast glade]

Kinda the fundamentals

[graceful oyster]

This feels flawed

[leaden delta]

ohhh i see the vision fuck yea

[graceful oyster]

You are avoiding games because they're widely recognized as good?

[quartz gulch]

Then what the fuck are you doing in the SILKSONG channel?

[leaden delta]

i think i would fucking despise momentum for the most part in tc games but

[graceful oyster]

Mio isn't popular

Play that

[vast glade]

Idk, even i don’t know those niche games

[leaden delta]

animal well, the messenger, pseudoregalia

[radiant quail]

Only HK is my favourite

[untold dune]

why not just browse the metroidvania genre on steam

[quartz gulch]

Everything is popular to a certain extent, so I don't even think this person has a clear definition of popular. Like, does it need less than 1000 downloads?

[midnight jasper]

I just saw someone get Faydown Cloak with the Plasmium Phial, Flintslate, and Fleabrew

[granite shadow]

Lone fungus

[quartz gulch]

Flintslate carries.

[untold dune]

theres no way ts is considered a metroidvania what

[vast glade]

Nahhh

[graceful oyster]

What? This seems pointless

[vast glade]

Fuh ass starwars

[untold dune]

shart war

[midnight jasper]

Starwars but if it was sold on temu

[radiant quail]

I don't want to

[quartz gulch]

Basically (almost) every good game has their own fanbase, so it is difficult to say something is "popular/unpopular".

[vast glade]

Why tho

[granite shadow]

isn't it a souls like?

[untold dune]

skill issue

[quartz gulch]

Google is free you know...

[untold dune]

idk but it was one of the top results when i searched metroidvania genre on steam

[radiant quail]

And anyway I don't have Steam

[weak depot]

who considers it a metroidvania what

[graceful oyster]

[untold dune]

ah fair

[vast glade]

Ok, then o makes sense

[quartz gulch]

Is Bloodborne a metroidvania? I saw it being called as such.

[verbal steeple]

my silk isn't song'ing

[granite shadow]

yeah im pretty sure its a souls like not a metroidvania

[granite shadow]

no its a souls game

[vast glade]

My song isn’t silking

[quartz gulch]

Don't you just love the people calling HK a souls like?

[weak depot]

Bro who calls starwars a metroidvania

[verbal steeple]

everything is a soulslike if you're bad enough

[quartz gulch]

"Subnautica is a horror game" ass people do.

[verbal steeple]

is subnautica not a horror game?

[vast glade]

Subnautica really is one

[verbal steeple]

i mean i don't play it but from what i've seen it can be unsettling

[untold dune]

hollow-like should rly be a term at this point i feel like

[verbal steeple]

sloplike

[quartz gulch]

Not really, it isn't scary by design. The only scary thing is the realism and immersion. Also, Devs have stated this.

[granite shadow]

hk is a metroidvania tho

[radiant quail]

No way

[verbal steeple]

so what you're saying is that it isn't made to be a horror game but it has some horror elements in it that scare people?

[vast glade]

It would be a child genre

[untold dune]

hk does a lot of its own stuff that so many other games have taken inspo from by now

[granite shadow]

ik i thought it was a simulator game at first to!

[vast glade]

Hk really is à classic now

[verbal steeple]

HK is a slop game

[tight viper]

Isn’t HK about F1 racing

[verbal steeple]

silksong is sequal slop

[untold dune]

are there any examples of pogoing pre-hk?

[radiant quail]

It's a demo for Silksong

[verbal steeple]

mario

[untold dune]

oh lmao

[verbal steeple]

i can't believe mario stole pogo'ing from HK

[radiant quail]

[vast glade]

Its a intro interactable cutscene to sk

[untold dune]

bro has early access to lace race

[granite shadow]

I remember having a harder time with hk tbh

[verbal steeple]

oh wait i really hope nintendo lawyers don't see this. they'll patent pogo'ing

[radiant quail]

It's the trailer

[untold dune]

ive never played mario so idk lol

[verbal steeple]

neither have i

[untold dune]

only mario kart

and mario and sonic at the olympic games

[verbal steeple]

all i know is that u can kill goombas by jumping on them so

[plucky onyx]

new super mario brothers for Wii is fire

[quartz gulch]

Deep, big ocean with big creatures isn't inherently horror. That description could be equally applied to real life, with whales and such.
Really, you are never forced to run from the big bad. You just have a world that exists around you. If you make poor decisions, that world will (realistically) have you eaten.

[radiant quail]

Yeah

[granite shadow]

🔥

[vast glade]

I have played like one or two mario games exempt mario cart

[plucky onyx]

me played it when i was like 8

[verbal steeple]

i mean... the ocean is quite terrifying irl

[radiant quail]

Same. How old are you?

[quartz gulch]

Exactly, it is inherently scary, but not because of actual intended game design (specifically for horror).

[plucky onyx]

atm 16 wbu?

[radiant quail]

15

[verbal steeple]

fair.

[vast glade]

Expecially when you have giant alien fish around you

[radiant quail]

This year

[granite shadow]

it's classed as horror on steam

[daring basin]

the ocean isn’t really terrifying, it’s what could be in or come from the ocean

[granite shadow]

I think you are just built different

[untold dune]

if ur under 18 u really shouldnt be revealing your age online anymore

its a safety matter at this point

[radiant quail]

Btw I love Demon Slayer

[quartz gulch]

Steam Tags are made by the players. The literal devs of the game have said that Subnautica isn't horror.

[verbal steeple]

same energy as saying: "i am not afraid of being alone in the dark... i'm afraid of not being alone"

[vast glade]

Ohhhh

[quartz gulch]

cough cough discord age verification

[radiant quail]

Naah

[untold dune]

😔

[granite shadow]

to some people it is scary so horror is made from an opinion ig

[plucky onyx]

tbf i didnt know about it after i made the name 😭

[daring basin]

yea. for me, darkness itself isn’t scary, it’s what could be in there (I’ve read to many SCPs )

[verbal steeple]

i find dolls unsettling

[radiant quail]

I think I put that I'm an adult🫢

[verbal steeple]

i don't like dolls.

[granite shadow]

same

[daring basin]

same

[granite shadow]

LOL

[radiant quail]

Wtf

[vast glade]

I think almost everyone thinks that

[verbal steeple]

alright time for some skong discussion

[vast glade]

Me included

[quartz gulch]

You don't fear that you're alone, you fear that you are not alone.

[verbal steeple]

or else we'll get shot in the streets of discordia

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-3134327606096542884

[radiant quail]

[toxic vigil]

Very funny tc made 3 architect variations and they all suck

[verbal steeple]

forge daughter is peak silkshot idk what you're talking about

[plucky onyx]

yeah i was kinda suprised it was something too 0_0

[vast glade]

Thats more unsetteling than any horror game

[quartz gulch]

What do you mean?

[radiant quail]

First Sinner>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all bosses (no it's not)

[toxic vigil]

Its a bit better straight pin that uses silk

[midnight jasper]

clawline cheeses first sinner

[untold dune]

first sinner is so overhyped

[radiant quail]

But it's one of the best

[verbal steeple]

a Gun user doesn't concern himself with the opinion of losers

[vast glade]

Nah its the best

[quartz gulch]

What do you mean, it's just little Ghost and Hornet as muppets (with mouths at the mouth part of the face).

[toxic vigil]

Also original better

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-godseeker-godgrounds-disagree-godhome-gif-819273963846912872

[rocky jolt]

first sinner is a glorified dream boss

[verbal steeple]

the silkshot weaver is boring to use because people always pick it

[daring basin]

the best fight is definitely lost hornet what yall on abt

[verbal steeple]

i don't use weaver silkshot because its overused and i wanna be different

also i have no idea why they made the architect version

it literally does less damage than the forge daughter. has a chance of doing LESS damage. and has LESS CAPACITY

[quartz gulch]

Get on my level, my game bugged and I can't get any silkshot because there is no 8th craft metal!

[verbal steeple]

like is it PURPOSELY meant to be bad????

[untold dune]

the first time i tried the silkshot in battle was during nyleth and it immediately threw me into the spikes so that is my (100% fair) impression of it

[plucky onyx]

first sinner GOATED fight

[toxic vigil]

Alternatives are straight pin that uses silk for a bit more damage and capacity and architect

[quartz gulch]

It would be good if they just removed limited uses, since it removes the entire fucking point of using the silkshots in the first place.

[vast glade]

I have only fought nyleth once

[untold dune]

sad

[verbal steeple]

the silkshots should be interchangable

[plucky onyx]

nyleth lovely fight

[untold dune]

yes please

[vast glade]

Yeah, the theme is great

I wish she was harder

[untold dune]

seth stole all the difficulty

[verbal steeple]

alright so this is a bit off-topic but i remember seeing someone send an image here of a crow saying "An IQ too green?" and i can't find this image anywhere

[plucky onyx]

https://giphy.com/gifs/adidas-hollow-knight-hornet-Bd8ZuJDjRR2AVxjZyp

[quartz gulch]

Interchangable, infinite uses (for silk), rebalanced damage (Architect>FD>Weaver)

[verbal steeple]

anyone have it?

[verbal steeple]

honestly?i don't think they should all need silk

[toxic vigil]

Yeah so you can go to all 3 locations, learn how to modify, and then be able to swap like the volt vessels

[verbal steeple]

the weaver silkshot requiring silk makes sense y'know its the "WEAVER"

-# i know its called silkshot i don't care

[quartz gulch]

Having them use silk and not waste uses would fantastically give them an actual purpose.

[daring basin]

hang that in the louvre

[verbal steeple]

but the forge daughter should like idk maybe not require silk

[plucky onyx]

if you break in ill do it

[still osprey]

I hope we get more tools that can transform like Voltvessels

[untold dune]

i love the idea but i could imagine a theoretical softlock where u cant get the architect silkshot because she dies

[midnight jasper]

Where can I find Craftmetal

[open narwhal]

@still osprey in main wtfrick hi

[verbal steeple]

infact. the forge daughter silkshot should have the fire aspect on it since its made in deep docks

[still osprey]

Boo 👻

[toxic vigil]

It is an old weaver tool so.
Using silk is in it's design. You can't modify that out

[quartz gulch]

Leave the materials next to her corpse and ask forge daughter to make a second repair or some shit.

Or you know, she just doesn't die until she is bought out?

[clear bone]

Go to the help server

[daring basin]

I don’t even need to break in I could practically walk out with a million dollar painting the security there SUCKS

[midnight jasper]

No

[verbal steeple]

the architect silkshot doesn't need to be changed. its so ass i don't think u can redeem it.

[toxic vigil]

She dosen't die until you fix the ruined tool so just make it until you get the architect variation

[quartz gulch]

In the help server.

[midnight jasper]

No

[untold dune]

she already doesnt die until she is bought out but u could kill her and then after pick up the broken tool

[plucky onyx]

then do it, enough distraction for me to hang the painting there

[verbal steeple]

infact make it so that if u try to make the architect silkshot she dies before being able to fix it

[feral basin]

#sk-help

[midnight jasper]

No

[tight viper]

Buff damage to each shot by 50

[verbal steeple]

because why not

[clear bone]

youre not gonna get help then

[verbal steeple]

INFACT make it ALWAYS kill her whenever u try and make it

[untold dune]

oh is that so? fair enough then

[midnight jasper]

Ok

[verbal steeple]

make yourself able to be softlocked from circlet

[tight viper]

Heresy

[quartz gulch]

Bye then, have fun silking your song.

[verbal steeple]

i have a question. can u get into act 3 without double jump?

[daring basin]

can’t, to broke to get a plane ticket to France (also I don’t want to go to France.)

[untold dune]

no lol

[verbal steeple]

does silk and soul require u to have double jump in order for it to be gottenable

[untold dune]

yea

[plucky onyx]

france isnt that bad ive been in the louvre

[verbal steeple]

fuck

[toxic vigil]

Its required for the quest to exist

[untold dune]

also i dont think its possible to skip everything that needs djump

[midnight jasper]

Yeah it's only for specific things im pretty sure

[verbal steeple]

with pimp pogos? it probably is. (assuming you aren't in the beta)

[clear bone]

Pretty sure you cant even enter upper bilewater without it

[verbal steeple]

i did act 1 bilewater without double jump

[midnight jasper]

Bilewater is fun

[daring basin]

I don’t think France is bad I just don’t wanna go to France

[toxic vigil]

Beast crest charge attack bug

[clever crystal]

its a nightmare

[midnight jasper]

Not for me

[plucky onyx]

ow welp

[midnight jasper]

I like the more sewer-like design

[verbal steeple]

they fixed that a while back

[sullen wasp]

built for torture

[daring basin]

a hopeful hell

[toxic vigil]

Use old sk version

[sullen wasp]

Dude lace fights are so fun

[midnight jasper]

Bilewater gives me Deepnest vibes but I liked Deepnest

[clever crystal]

im thinking of going there in my steel soul save frfr

[plucky onyx]

try the last one >:)

[verbal steeple]

bilewater more like peak water

[untold dune]

team cherry patching all the fun bugs but leaving in the shitty ones like sherma

[unkempt steeple]

Just did lost lace hitless

[clever crystal]

w

[plucky onyx]

rather impressive

[worthy lintel]

I have a solution to that

[toxic vigil]

Bilewater is torture before double jump

[worthy lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003935536211296277/1457489652205224077/gonesherma-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[sullen wasp]

looks rly fun to me, the best part was when i figured out 2nd lace's pattern i felt like matrix

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-hollow-knight-sherma-silksong-sherma-death-gif-6060867535646958610

[worthy lintel]

That one too

[untold dune]

oh wait the gif evolved holy

[unkempt steeple]

How do I do that

[sullen wasp]

lace 3 yh i uninstalled when i ran into bilewater

[daring basin]

I would love Deepnest if it weren’t for the stalking devout

[plucky onyx]

yeah its wonderfull (also good lore)

[clever crystal]

i will try to do every hollow knight boss radiant version

[untold dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003935536211296277/1451541877554941993/SHERMAAAA-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[daring basin]

like og or silksong

[sullen wasp]

Indeed

karmalita song is soo good

[unkempt steeple]

I'm only gonna try if silksong gets radiant bosses

[clever crystal]

og

[sullen wasp]

Can listen to it all day

[plucky onyx]

fight was absolute hell for me for no reason 😭

[untold dune]

silksong hitless is easier than hk hitless because of toolspam

[daring basin]

I’m doing that as well I only have AbsRad before get full radiant HOG

[worthy lintel]

What monster would do something like this… terrible…

[unkempt steeple]

That or shaman spell spam

[clever crystal]

i will do it then try to beat p5 hitless with only dream shield

[sullen wasp]

Havent fought her but the amount of bugs u have to defeat and then the boss herself, the battle is long and her attacks are fast

V hard boss

[clear bone]

I feel like im about to have a bad time

[plucky onyx]

idm the gauntlet but the fight DAM

[untold dune]

bed time? well good night!

[daring basin]

“You are shermicides” sherma do we need to teach you grammar

[unkempt steeple]

Beat lost lace hitless with (only) pale nails on shaman + volt, flealia and weavelight

[plucky onyx]

wdy guys think :P

[unkempt steeple]

Oh and barbed bracelet

[untold dune]

good stuff

[verbal steeple]

off topic but looks cool.

[worthy lintel]

One of the most difficult fights

[unkempt steeple]

I was gonna use cross stitch too but too risky

[clever crystal]

it wasnt that hard for me and the enemies before her are kinda easy

[daring basin]

majestic, pale king would live in it, 9.5/10 no sawblades.

[clever crystal]

woah

[plucky onyx]

build it tdy

[clever crystal]

w

[vast glade]

Why does he have a pavo staff?

[bronze oasis]

I don't think I can learn to draw other things that completely random shit that I don't want and for some reason it is the shit that looks the best

[worthy lintel]

Fortunately I can go back and undo- wait what’s this

[plucky onyx]

with help of effortlessbuilding mod :P

[worthy lintel]

Look at the ground

[clever crystal]

nice

[verbal steeple]

is that a Dr who reference (i never watched Dr who)

[worthy lintel]

Yeah lol

[vast glade]

Ohhhh

Poor pavo

[untold dune]

yeah but it costs 50 rosaries every time you use the tardis in pharloom

[plucky onyx]

im planning to make this on a survival server, why you might ask?, im bored.

[verbal steeple]

everyone will become silksanity

team cherry delayed silksong so people could feel the sense of insanity that the bugs of hallownest felt

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-battle-i-cast-tungsten-ball-gif-14725286561442293014

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-widow-hornet-bonk-arito-gif-13643966964603239778

[daring basin]

they call it a city of tears and a sea of sorrow for a reason

[vestal flicker]

maybe a visit to yarnaby really is necessary

[worthy lintel]

And they didn’t even bother to have the layout make sense, this is obviously disproportionate

[untold dune]

thats why they will charge us $300 for game 3 so we will know how the bugs of pharloom felt

[daring basin]

“My God, what have we done?”

[worthy lintel]

The interior is disproportionally sized considering the scale of the exterior

[hoary creek]

chat I peaked
I relearned how to do derivatives of logarithmic functions again

[untold dune]

so unrealistic 🙄

[verbal steeple]

i like your funny words magic man

[plucky onyx]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-hollowuser-degisikhesabmis-Tra7SLmdViyDkRwxSG

[hoary creek]

lol that was actually funny

[daring basin]

have you ever seen more aura?

nevermind Pure Vessel has more aura mb

[plucky onyx]

nah the knight does

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-edit-gif-3111459100547897595

[verbal steeple]

sherma has more aura

[untold dune]

pure vessel is aurafarming, the knight is auraborn

[verbal steeple]

his aura is so strong the last judge left him alone

[worldly valve]

the knight's aura is so immense every shade just accepted it as the shade lord

[daring basin]

could that be my absolute goat pure vessel

[verbal steeple]

sherma survived the entirety of the pilgrimage with a metal pin

[plucky onyx]

the fight was fucking awesome

[daring basin]

my sister made me a absolute PEAK drawing of PV (set me back 47 dollars BUT WORTH IT)

[plucky onyx]

can you show me :P now im curious

[strange knot]

Chat how tf wanderrr users genuinely getting through coral tower

The range is so fucking small

[daring basin]

credit to my sister ofc

[rocky lotus]

no thats dirty vessel

[untold dune]

clawline

[rocky lotus]

different person

[strange knot]

Maybe

[verbal steeple]

its not the range btw

[plucky onyx]

dam thats so cool

[verbal steeple]

its the width of the attacks that make it so horrible to use

[untold dune]

also wanderer has more reach than hunter

[strange knot]

Yeah same thing

[charred ruin]

plasmium overdose

[verbal steeple]

iirc long claw actually increases the width of attacks

[strange knot]

Almost

[verbal steeple]

WRONG

steal his copy of skong

[strange knot]

Very similar*

[daring basin]

ikr

[strange knot]

NOOOOO

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-edit-gif-3111459100547897595

[charred ruin]

i beat coral tower 2nd try on wanderers crest lol

[strange knot]

What does bread emoji even means

[worldly valve]

🥖

[charred ruin]

thread storm my fucking goat i hate those flying mfs

[daring basin]

i love this mini PV conversation we are having lmao

[clear bone]

i think coral tower is a little overhyped in terms of difficulty

[worldly valve]

why are we reposting aura farmer pv

[plucky onyx]

same thing here, i was so proud once i did it on acended (ik its not impressive but im still proud)

[untold dune]

i forced myself to beat pv on ascended like 4 times in a row before going back into p5

[plucky onyx]

felt like it

[untold dune]

same for nkg and gpz lol

[daring basin]

bc it is the goat

[still osprey]

Honestly that's so valid

P5 already sucks dying so late would be awful

At least getting to absrad on the first try means you can quickly start practicing her

[untold dune]

i also did a radiant nkg once by accident but i couldnt replicate it on real radiant attempts

[clear bone]

that always sucks

[daring basin]

PV and NKG honestly just clicked for me I did radiant PV in like 3 tries and NKG radiant in 2

[worldly valve]

happened to me once with pv its so painful

[untold dune]

i did all of this in order to reach absrad btw and then i beat p5 like a day later

absrad is washed

[daring basin]

radiant AbsRad is a pain in my ass bru

[plucky onyx]

tf 😭

now im jelous

[untold dune]

radiant markoth harder (prob)

[daring basin]

I did radiant markoth in like 6 hours and 2 mental breakdowns

[untold dune]

yeah i aint doing all the radiants and ascendeds, thats too much for me

[daring basin]

I took the hardest radiant markoth as well (pogoing)

[still osprey]

I've done all radiants, it's eh

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hollowknight-silksong-hornet-hollowknight-hornet-gif-20680421

[still osprey]

AbsRad is the only difficult one

[toxic vigil]

I did a lot of hall of gods

[neon geyser]

its not bad, just time consuming to do all 44 on attuned ascended and radiant

[hoary creek]

I never tried RadHog, but I did get Weathered mask

[plucky onyx]

still carefree melody best charm in tha game

[daring basin]

tbh markoth is not as bad as people say but still annoying. The only one left for me is AbsRad

[plucky onyx]

ima play some sk

[hoary creek]

and that was actually fun

[plucky onyx]

cyu guys

[still osprey]

Yea I agree, Markoth is just annoying, not actually that hard

[untold dune]

i know im unemployed and all, but like, im not that unemployed

[plucky onyx]

cyu guys

[untold dune]

cya

[plucky onyx]

have a good night fellas

[toxic vigil]

Only missing nkg and absrad on ascended, and a few radiants like markoth grimm sly watcher knights

[unkempt steeple]

For silksong I would

For hk? No way

[untold dune]

lowkey true

silksong has such a better combat loop than hk

[still osprey]

These are all the silksong nohits I've done so far, it's like half the bosses in the game

[indigo eagle]

Bought the bible of manga

This shit is so heavy man I also got deluxe 9

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-peaks-this-fucking-greens-danny-devito-clapping-gif-652469562401052345

[unkempt steeple]

Congrats

[still osprey]

thank you thank you

honestly how tf did I do tormented trobbio in only 2 attempts that fight is the definition of random bullshit go

[olive holly]

im tryna complete my csm volumes and every store i enter rightfully has these and they are so menacing

[toxic vigil]

Did you guys know thread storm is bugged against father of the flame

[balmy wraith]

its trobbio but slightly different

[indigo eagle]

I have 18 volumes of Chainsaw Man

Manga Collecting is not for the weak

[olive holly]

im missing so many part 1 volumes cause they are all sold out

[indigo eagle]

Lmao that sucks

[olive holly]

part 2 i basically am up to date

[indigo eagle]

I wonder if they’re gonna do deluxe editions of CSM

[indigo eagle]

Volume 23 is releasing as we speak

Though Part 2 is getting even more midder and midder everyday

[olive holly]

i dont think they will the fact they simply released the box for part 1 kinda speaks to it

[indigo eagle]

Well Tokyo Ghoul has a box set but also has omnibuses

A omnibus CSM would be nice

And JJK

[olive holly]

oh 100%

im like so so fairly certain csm goest past the 30 volumes mark

so it would be nice to have all eventual parts grouped up in their respective bigger volumes

[indigo eagle]

this part 2 shitshow is gonna get us to 60 volumes

[olive holly]

he has to wrap ts up im so serious

this supposedly is the road to the core point of the series

[daring basin]

I love when we don’t talk abt silksong in the silksong channel

[signal cypress]

Guys

[untold dune]

its tradition

[signal cypress]

I have proof that trobbio is a butterfly (probably)

[untold dune]

yea?

[signal cypress]

Though this IS language related, in the Italian translation for silksong, trobbio's name is a portmanteau of "butterfly" and "hamlet"

Thus implying that he could be a butterfly

[fiery burrow]

i mean

[untold dune]

yeah and the tornado thing too tbf

[granite shadow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dead-chat-36

[untold dune]

klipy.com/gifs/dead-chat-36

[wary storm]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-fire-peak-fiction-goblin-fire-green-gif-4634332962498618947

[radiant quail]

Sea of Sorrow tomorrow? God damn

[wary storm]

indeed

[radiant quail]

Cool profile picture

[lavish sedge]

How do you know this

[radiant quail]

Because he is Team Cherry

[lavish sedge]

OMG

This is insane

[radiant quail]

[wary storm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/memes-fruit-cake-on-cherry-xAu9ffIdbtrr9d4WAt

[radiant quail]

[lavish sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-gif-19850229

This is incredibly and I infuse myself with the power

[sly lava]

Shawwww

[lavish sedge]

This 🍉 is my meme fruit

And it will be apart of the rosary cannon

[daring basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-gif-19850229

[lavish sedge]

I shall grow my way to victory

What

WDYM 212%

[daring basin]

Hollow Knight 112% + Silksong 100%

[spiral glade]

Shaw

[sly lava]

Hegaleeee

[daring basin]

[spiral glade]

Your pfp is so cute

[sly lava]

Tanks :3

[spiral glade]

[lavish sedge]

Possibly for silksong 103% i three more DlCs release

[daring basin]

my best guess is silksong is gonna also go to 112% with DLCs

[spiral glade]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-gif-26184226

[lavish sedge]

Oh jeez

[daring basin]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-gif-26184226

[spiral glade]

[lavish sedge]

Wait team cherry will you bless us with one of the tool names if you feel like it (if any more tools release in the DLC)

[sly lava]

Can someone give me some advice on how to defeat Nightmare King Grim??

[daring basin]

get into his rhythm, keep doing him and find his weak spots and attacks. Dont get greedy on heals or attacks.

[sly lava]

Tanks>:3

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-spin-tank-gif-25517353

[daring basin]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-spin-tank-gif-25517353

[lavish sedge]

I think I'll just collect the unbreakable strength charm and banish them

[daring basin]

I’m just doing gifs for people who can’t lol

[verbal steeple]

why did hornet kill kris

[lavish sedge]

WHAT

[verbal steeple]

#hk-discussion is that way

[lavish sedge]

Ok

[spiral glade]

No matter how powerful you become, don't try to shoulder everything alone. If you do, you will surely fail.

[lavish sedge]

Oh ok I get it now but which old heart would she get along with? (Hornets possible friendships with them)

[spiral glade]

https://tenor.com/view/itachi-uchiha-gif-10402539326644316185

[balmy pumice]

Guys I’m bored in Silksong what should I do

[lavish sedge]

Commit a homicide

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327669725614051410/1398935213500796938/Geometry_Dash_2022-08-28_07-06-39-1-1-1-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[lavish sedge]

Wait did you make it to act three

Sir_rockdude

[untold dune]

100 in flea juggle

[brave forge]

Go to the center to gage his attack then rotate outwards and repeat. Attack mainly when he’s doing the fire column things

[lavish sedge]

I think hornet would get along with karmileta the most

[balmy pumice]

Yeah

[lavish sedge]

Then mass homicide

[balmy pumice]

Alr bet

You won’t be hearing from me for awhile imma be busy getting 100 on flea juggle

[lavish sedge]

I SUCK AT THAT MINIGAME

One thing I suck at is the flea juggle

[brave forge]

Flea dodge the worst of all three

[lavish sedge]

Im ok at that mini game

[balmy pumice]

Flea dodge is way easier that juggle

High score at 62 now

[lavish sedge]

I found flea bounce the easiest

[balmy wraith]

i find juggle easier

[lavish sedge]

Really

[balmy wraith]

yer

[trim estuary]

acting like big flea fight isn’t the most difficult by a mile

[balmy pumice]

I died my first time fighting him

[lavish sedge]

Well I think kratt should have been at the bottom of each leaderboard

In the flea festival

[gusty igloo]

if i ship hornet x void is that selfcest because hornet IS void?

[subtle lynx]

Hey guys, I'm playing silksong and I found a weird "bug"

[gusty igloo]

he is

[subtle lynx]

Like, an error

[gusty igloo]

okay

[gusty igloo]

biggest cap ever

[subtle lynx]

For some odd reason, Ass Jim is named "lugoli" did team cherry mention anything related to fixing this?

[gusty igloo]

dude juggle is the easjest and dodge is the hardest

[lusty grove]

Hornet is unified Void, Void is chaotic Void

[lavish sedge]

What but I thought he was higher when he shouldn't have been

[gusty igloo]

they had censorship so they had to change it

[gusty igloo]

he has like 2 points in each minigame

[lavish sedge]

REALLY

[gusty igloo]

ye

[lavish sedge]

It should have been negative 10

Or negative 09/09

It's release date

[subtle lynx]

Damn

They could have used "Butt Jim"

[gusty igloo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223958715531792428/1463341443786608670/attachment.gif

[lavish sedge]

For lougolie

POV: hornet with delvers drill midair lougolies worst nightmare

[gusty igloo]

goodnighbt chat

[lavish sedge]

Goodnight but is sos really releasing tomorrow

[subtle lynx]

Yes

[gusty igloo]

issue of skill

[lavish sedge]

The scene of the century

[gusty igloo]

wtf yo even doin with architect and only delvers drill

[fiery burrow]

Delvers is the coolest tool tbf

[opaque sigil]

voltvessel spear:
original silkshot:
it's at least a tie

[lusty grove]

Silksong boss tierlist (imo)

[minor sparrow]

all tierlists are in your opinion

[jolly steeple]

beat fourth chorus a bit ago, was there really just no reward for it? not even rosaries?

[charred ruin]

hi guys what are yalls fav scenic spots in skong? I'm planning to make an animatic featuring pretty hk and sk places

[minor sparrow]

the reward is playing the rest of the game

[teal nova]

Not Really no it just exists as a roadblock

[lusty grove]

the reward is the Drifter's Cloak

practically

[minor sparrow]

i wouldn't count that

[lusty grove]

you need to defeat Fourth Chorus to use the Drifter's Cloak in any way that matters

[minor sparrow]

that's like saying the reward for bell beast is silkspear

[lusty grove]

you can just not fight Bell Beast after getting Silk Spear

[minor sparrow]

you need to defeat bellbeast to play the rest of the game, which requires silkspear

unless you're doing glitched

[lusty grove]

you can skip it by buying the Simple Key

[minor sparrow]

but idk why you'd count that since you can also skip fourth chorus

[lusty grove]

also, in a way, putting the reward directly before or directly after a required boss doesn't really change anything

[daring basin]

The area of the choral chambers where you can see the vast expanse of the Citadel (where you meet lace.)

[minor sparrow]

right, wormways, but most players aren't going to do that

[lusty grove]

especially if there's a checkpoint that stops you from skipping the boss

[checkpoint -> item -> boss -> progression] and [checkpoint -> boss -> item -> progression] are essencially the same

[daring basin]

For hollow knight the bench in the City of Tears where you meet Quirrel

[minor sparrow]

let me think of a more fitting example, like saying pharloom ascent rewards you with silksoar, when silksoar itself enables pharloom ascent

i just don't agree with the line of thinking is all

[lusty grove]

well, in a way, whether Pharloom Ascent is before or after Silksoar doesn't change much progression-wise

2x3 and 3x2 are both 6

[minor sparrow]

sure, but that could apply to literally anything if you move the game around

[feral basin]

The coral tower when you first silk soar up it

[minor sparrow]

as it stands, pharlooms ascent cannot happen without silksoar intentionally

[charred ruin]

TRUE CORAL TOWER IS SO GORGEOUS

[minor sparrow]

silksoar is not the reward for pharlooms ascent

fourth chorus cannot happen without drifter's cloak, drifter's cloak is not the reward for fourth chorus

[charred ruin]

i wish they kept sands of karak as tropical themed

[daring basin]

Shoot I forgot abt that place still stand by the choral chambers area

[feral basin]

Same but I also like it currently

[kindred willow]

Guys

Is it controversial to say I don't like the original HK plot that much?

[lusty grove]

that one moment after you leave Ruined Chapel, when all the Mossbugs are flying
the entire Lace 2 fight
the Mist
Haunted Bellhart reveal

[kindred willow]

I mean it's iconic and everything but I've never been hooked by plots that are carried by one-way dialogue

[minor sparrow]

i think that's a personal opinion and not really my business

[kindred willow]

I like Silksong's plot way more

Though there are still some characters I like like the White Lady

[lusty grove]

okay, I see your point
by that definition, the exit from lower Far Fields is the reward for Fourth Chorus

[minor sparrow]

hence what I said "playing the rest of the game is the reward"

[lusty grove]

OH, AND THE ARCHITECT'S MELODY

THAT ONE IS MY FAVORITE
HOW DID I FORGET THAT ONE

[lusty grove]

btw, it's kinda funny how the ascent to Greymoor is like, the only point in the entirety of Act 1 where they check if you have Drifter's Cloak

[compact cargo]

The bell beast can Purr

[minor sparrow]

exit from fourth has a wind tunnel too unless you're counting that as the greymoor ascent

also the game only checks for silkspear once if you go back around instead of breaking the silk in front of the druid

[lusty grove]

more specifically, Far Fields is the only place where you need Drifter's Cloak

[minor sparrow]

it's just more active

I do wish they used the silkspear mechanic more honestly

felt like a weird thing to introduce and never use again after the first 2 minutse of having it

[quartz gulch]

It's just immersive progression though, the exact same as simply making a key and lock on a door.

[jolly steeple]

also another question if i quit the game after dying does my cocoon stay there or nah

i really cant be bothered to go back for it now

[quartz gulch]

Stays there.

[jolly steeple]

ok sick ty

[quartz gulch]

You're early game right? I'd recommend asking in help to avoid spoilers.

[jolly steeple]

oki

[minor sparrow]

sure, but you've attached an ability to something and just don't use it. I'm not saying it has to be integrated in combat, just used in more situations with silk

like cutting the strings on bellshrines and stuff

[pseudo apex]

so i just completed the steel soul exclusive mission

[quartz gulch]

Why?

[tight viper]

It’s a bit different, but that collection of hanging corpses at the entrance of the trap gauntlet room in Bilewater is incredibly unnerving on the first visit. I literally walked up to it, heard the noise, and just walked away because I knew something wicked was waiting there

[lusty grove]

is Craggler a boss?

[compact cargo]

Its weird bone bottom is a spoiler on that channel

[quartz gulch]

True, it should be auto-censored from the start. But it is also just shit if you get spoiled a great game for no reason.

[compact cargo]

When rosaries arent

[tight viper]

Miniboss, no pop-up title

Same with Huge Flea

[pseudo apex]

it was actually easy the boss

[quartz gulch]

If you have common sense, nope.

[compact cargo]

Most are reasonable imo

[lusty grove]

I don't think it even counts as a miniboss

[minor sparrow]

the high halls water rooms

[lusty grove]

it's a glorified enviromnent hazard

[tight viper]

If minibosses exist, I think the Craggler gets that title

[lusty grove]

it'd suck ass greatly

[compact cargo]

Huge flea in godhome

[quartz gulch]

It could be used more, but how? Essentially it would just suck for Architect users, and be easy for everyone else. It would do literally nothing, or do anything possibly to annoy you.

[lusty grove]

Fluffly god of the Fleas

[lost crescent]

hiiii guys

[tight viper]

There’s like 6 gauntlets

[compact cargo]

How

[minor sparrow]

it could be used before you get to architect at least, architect is likely going to be obtained mid to late act 2 so put it in the areas before you get there like freeing pilgrims from silk or clearing up blocked paths that the citadel doesn't want them using

[lusty grove]

to balance, Gurr would be the new Markoth

[tight viper]

The number of bosses with gauntlets is less than 10, that’s for sure

[lusty grove]

that's like, the greatest skill issue ever

[minor sparrow]

also who cares about ease? is needlin hard to use?

[lusty grove]

Karm gaunglet is so easy

[quartz gulch]

I guess that'd be cool. Freeing Kratt could've been such a case, otherwise I don't know.

[minor sparrow]

I just want it to have more than 2 consecutive uses and be like clawline which gets all of its use in act 2 and used as a combat tool other times

[compact cargo]

Brother gurr, a random ass ant was better at the Karmelitta gauntlet than you please explain

[quartz gulch]

What I am referring to is Architect users going somewhere and being blocked by some random silk, so they have to backtrack to pass through. Which would suck.

[minor sparrow]

opening up sinner's road since it isn't actually supposed to be used from what I can tell

[lusty grove]

worst take ever

[tight viper]

Karm, Khann, Craw, Brood, Groal, Unravelled*, Lugoli. I think that’s it?

Unravelled is a special case since the gauntlet is also literally part of the boss

[minor sparrow]

just don't put it in act 2, it'd be bloated with having 3 different opening mechanics anyways

[lusty grove]

Unravelled IS the gaunglet

[lavish sedge]

What are we all talking about

[tight viper]

No need to apologize or anything, honestly I kinda just wanted to see if I could remember em all

[minor sparrow]

bro has like the freest gauntlet ever

[compact cargo]

I wonder how many bosses you could kill on the Pantheon on architect crest Without the bind or needle

[tight viper]

More or less, yeah

[minor sparrow]

that's a lie but still

[tight viper]

That’s wild

[lavish sedge]

WHAT WOULD THE PANTHEONS OF SILKSONG BE CALLED?

[compact cargo]

Explain

[tight viper]

Alitas are the opposite of free

[compact cargo]

Simphony

[tight viper]

Those little shits are evil

[zealous shoal]

Whether or not you’re on Steel Soul would change the answer to this.

[compact cargo]

Ik

[minor sparrow]

karm's gauntet probably places 4th out of the gauntlets in difficulty imo

[lavish sedge]

Ok but what about the pantheon of pharloom

[compact cargo]

Hear me out

[minor sparrow]

pretty boring, all things considered

[quartz gulch]

Sorry BUT WHO FINDS THAT GAUNTLET DIFFICULT???

[trim estuary]

Really?

[lavish sedge]

Would it be called the choir of pharloom

[compact cargo]

Eternal ordeal style room where you fight every gauntlet in a row

[tight viper]

The Last Claws can be a bit of a hurdle

[trim estuary]

Silksong’s boss rush should 100% have gauntlets btw

[compact cargo]

1 hard wave

[tight viper]

It’s not “difficult” but it’s definitely not a cakewalk

You’ve gotta try to kill them

[minor sparrow]

4th of the boss gauntlets, not all of the gauntlets

[tight viper]

You’ve gotta try even harder to kill them without entering the Karm fight with less silk/masks than you could have

[minor sparrow]

i find the little throwing mfs annoying because the timing for their aim feels weird to me

the big guys are free money though

[fiery burrow]

Me after beating Lace 2 and getting my health set to 4, crest set to hunter, and all tools removed so I can fight the act 3 beginning gauntlet

[tight viper]

That’s a hurdle by definition

[compact cargo]

I just parry them every time

[lusty grove]

more accurate Silksong tierlist

[quartz gulch]

Gauntlets by my rating of difficulty:

1. The Choir
2. The Karaka
3. Deep Docks Gauntlet (deeper parts, 2 Bomber Fucks)
4. Hunters March
5. Act ||| entrance gauntlet

(not by boss gauntlets)

[minor sparrow]

no because they already have a choir. I like the suggestion of symphonies
more

[daring basin]

Pantheon of the Hunter
Pantheon of the Mapmaker (Shakra at the peak)
Pantheon of the Weaver
Pantheon of the Abyss (Act 3 Bosses)
Pantheon of Pharloom

[quartz gulch]

How does it make sense to say that easy and fun can't be on the same level?

[lusty grove]

?

[compact cargo]

How is 2 moss mothers harder than clover dancers

[timid valve]

Pantheon of Pain
PoP

[lavish sedge]

I haven't fought shakra

[tight viper]

It’s a compass

[minor sparrow]

ive come to quite enjoy the conchfly fights for some reason

[lavish sedge]

So maybe something else

[compact cargo]

Chat hear me out

[lusty grove]

I think Cogwork Dancers prepares the player way too well to Clover Dancers
it's just a second Dancers fight
Double Moss Mother is quite hard at that point in the game

[minor sparrow]

that's not what that chart means

[tight viper]

Moss Mother duo has weird AI

And the arena itself is weird

[lusty grove]

it's a graph, with fun on one axis and toughness on the other axis

[tight viper]

Very cramped

[compact cargo]

What if the silksong Path of pain is hidden in the atla parkour room and it gives the weaver journal entry

[minor sparrow]

the closer you are to the intercept, the closer it is to both attributes

[tight viper]

Ass Jim sucks I hate that fight so much

[minor sparrow]

i wasn't expecting the ass to bounce

[tight viper]

Hatred out of principle more than anything else

[lavish sedge]

Use delvers drill on ass Jim then

[lusty grove]

way too many bosses here, game sucks

[tight viper]

Unravelled is fun

[compact cargo]

Choir clapper on boss lol

[trim estuary]

why is savage beastfly one in the corner

[tight viper]

Raging Conchfly is a blast

[minor sparrow]

wait I just got the best deal out of a trial randomizer

[lusty grove]

btw ignore Skarrgard and Choir Clapper, they were in the tierlist and I had no choice

[tight viper]

Hard and Not Fun according to the chart

[lavish sedge]

No sbf should be in nothingness

[trim estuary]

But like it is actually pretty fun (unlike SBF2)

[lusty grove]

it's a glorified Bell Beast with gaunglets in between

[tight viper]

It ain’t a Bell Beast

[last marten]

WHY IS BILEWATER SO LARGE AND LONG I WANNA BURN THIS PLACE DOWN

[minor sparrow]

brother

[compact cargo]

-conductors

[tight viper]

You mean the Whiteward?

[minor sparrow]

putrified ducts is just bilewater if it was a nothing burger

[lusty grove]

Yeah but that's not a criterium

[minor sparrow]

except for that ductsucker platforming section. I liked that

[quartz gulch]

Maybe it could be like this:

P1 Pintress and Seamstress
P2 Putrified Ducts Unnamed Pintress
P3 ?
P4 Citadel (theme)
P5 Silk (Weavers, Lace, GMS)

Or also like this:

P1 Vaultkeepers
P2 Architects
P3 Conductors
P4 Weavers / ?
P5 Silk

With each being themed by music, automatons and stuff like that, idk.

[minor sparrow]

could fall under fun depending on what aspect of the design

[compact cargo]

Young Phantom should be a pantheom ending fight

[quartz gulch]

Phantom was supposedly always frayed, so while she wasn't literally faceless, she always had a thinner and weaker form.

[minor sparrow]

i like bagels with cream cheese

[lavish sedge]

Yes

[compact cargo]

Wtf dude thats so messed up

[lavish sedge]

Call her first Silkborn

[quartz gulch]

The Ending fights I think we NEED are Seamstress, Duct Pintress and possibly a combination with Pintress.

I'd also like to see Xero return as a proper bossfight among the Karaka, but I won't see that happening ever.

[minor sparrow]

didn't their journal say they were frayed with time? or something

or was it the color

[lavish sedge]

We need a fight between pinstress and lace

[quartz gulch]

No, GMS says "better a child frayed than none", meaning she was imperfect from the start.

[quartz gulch]

Lace would easily win though...

[lavish sedge]

Really because pinstress has more experience

[compact cargo]

1. Frail
   2 that was about lace

[brittle totem]

guys could I technically just loom lace into a pile of yarn?

[compact cargo]

Yes

[minor sparrow]

prolly, assuming she has no core structure

[compact cargo]

And gms too

[lavish sedge]

GMS is a grandma and with one cough she would vapourise

[quartz gulch]

The colour was so:
•White parts — already gone
•Black parts — very few, only pure silk
•grey parts — weak, dirty silk that is already mostly gone

[brittle totem]

well GMS would be immpossible to do so because im pretty sure she can just create silk, (yk,she is literally the god of silk)

Grand mommy silk

[compact cargo]

Just be fast smh

[minor sparrow]

i think for a pantheon sort of thing, sure. in terms of current game, I prefer LL more as a final boss

[quartz gulch]

Reading comprehension can't be that hard...

[compact cargo]

What

[quartz gulch]

Phantom is referred to as frayed, Lace is referred to as mad (and loyal, though that may also apply to Phantom).

[minor sparrow]

and which is a child spun pure then

[lavish sedge]

Should lace be in a therapy facility

[compact cargo]

Why would she talk about Phantom there

[quartz gulch]

Both, though Lace is likely meant. Pure as in, purely made from silk.

[compact cargo]

Frail is also lace because She's on literal silk life support

[lavish sedge]

Who's midra

[minor sparrow]

i would just make the correlation that they're all associated with lace

[quartz gulch]

Because Phantom also served as a replacement to the Weavers. Also, Lace literally isn't even frayed, how the fuck would that make sense?

[minor sparrow]

given that this happens after her boss fight and can all be applied to lace

[compact cargo]

Frail

[brittle totem]

grand as in huge. Mother as in mommy. Silk as in silk

so we get

[compact cargo]

Its not frayed

[compact cargo]

Thats not in the cutscene

[brittle totem]

GRAND MOMMY SILK

[lavish sedge]

Should lace have wings

Oh ok

[minor sparrow]

^ this is also true

it's frail, not frayed

[brittle totem]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-this-post-was-fact-checked-this-post-was-fact-checked-by-real-citadel-patriots-silksong-grand-mother-silk-gif-15533073062746572687

[lavish sedge]

But how does lace do her flip and lunge because that's physically impossible without wings

[minor sparrow]

so there's nothing to imply that phantom was always frayed, only that hronet noted that they were frayed to indicate that they're made of silk

[compact cargo]

What do you think Phantom did to the pilgrims that got to her

[minor sparrow]

she's pretty light so she moves through the air akin to dandelion seeds

[minor sparrow]

same thing they were about to do to you, probably

aurafarm but actually win this time

[compact cargo]

Theres no bodies in the exhaust organ

[iron cedar]

When is Sea of Sorrow 😭

[lavish sedge]

Really because most bugs need wings to fly as they can't fight gravity without it

[quartz gulch]

Come on, how is this even a question?

[compact cargo]

And phantom wanted to die in combat and a sherma is not gonna be a good death in combat

[compact cargo]

Lace is also frail

[quartz gulch]

Nevermind, still means the same.

[minor sparrow]

lace is pretty frail

she made out of silk for gods sake lol

[lavish sedge]

That is so true though sherma is precious

[quartz gulch]

No? She very much isn't to the same extent as Phantom.

[quartz gulch]

Phantom is too, but let's just ignore that then...

[compact cargo]

Because phantom isnt on life support from god

[compact cargo]

So they're both frail 😭

[minor sparrow]

im not ignoring it lmao, I'm saying that in this context, she seems to be talking about all attributes that can be aligned with lace

[lavish sedge]

Well have you seen how thin they are

[compact cargo]

Guy thinks the lace silk heart cutscene is about phantom

[lavish sedge]

How

[minor sparrow]

no, they think that it's about both phantom and lace

I just don't think so

[lavish sedge]

Also does lace have pockets to hold stuff

[quartz gulch]

I guess you are right, though I am still not fully convinced this certainly is talking about only Lace. You did make good points though.

[lavish sedge]

I wish we could ask team cherry about if lace has pockets or not

[minor sparrow]

that's fine and I appreciate that, but next time, please don't try to insult someone's "reading comprehension" whenever team cherry is known for (area titles aside) being unclear with their dialogue

[compact cargo]

Do you think Phantom And the stiltkin Are chill with eachother

[quartz gulch]

Prolly not. Groal doesn't seem very reasonable from the way he treated that shaman.

[compact cargo]

Its weird the only Bodies near Phantom Are the mist ones

[tepid mist]

Hello people

why did everyone go quiet

[limpid fiber]

yoo hi

[minor sparrow]

not trying to continue this conversation, just following up on this.

[quartz gulch]

Silksong apparently has a theme of motherhood or something, idc, some people just say so.

So why not Hornet?

I am not answering that.

[compact cargo]

In a dialogue with eva it implies She's failed to concieve children a little

[limpid fiber]

i feel violated

i dont like that

[compact cargo]

[quartz gulch]

I wouldn't want to disappoint.

[crisp heron]

SILKSONG

HOLLOW KNIGHT SILKSONG

[limpid fiber]

i like how groal didnt change or didnt change much because hes already horrific

[quartz gulch]

Actually they were just all being unclothed. That is their skin.

Or shell I guess.

[grand adder]

Ok lowkey change the pinstresses design. Straight horrendous. Though it kinda fits the stilkin for some reason

That pinstress design woukd give me a nightmare

[quartz gulch]

I didn't create this masterpiece. And the pintress design is as realistic as can be, I mean they are hinted to be somewhat related to Stilkin. Also, they are beautiful.

[lavish sedge]

Can karmileta be used as a buzzsaw?

YES

[grand adder]

Hex nah. Idk where you got the info that theyre related to the stilkins

[quartz gulch]

Fun fact:
Karmelita has a dress of literal flesh over her normal body (flesh). Additionally, there are sawblades in between, which is the equivalent of having tacks in your male sensitive area parts.

[lavish sedge]

SHE COULD BE USED TO BEAT THE STUPID PRIMAL ASPID

[grand adder]

Sir you cant throw the word foreskin around

[quartz gulch]

Just speculation based on the Ducts Pintress. I mean, we really have nothing to go off of otherwise. Craws are an option, but less implied to be so.

[hardy tangle]

why is flesh bracketed

[compact cargo]

The pinstress in ducts

And the nose

[lavish sedge]

Also karmileta is the God of song and resistance

[grand adder]

Idk man. Why would she even make the wreath or even died if she was related to the stilkins

[limpid fiber]

like how lady gaga wore a meat dress or?

[grand adder]

Not alot of things could support that other than its a great place to hide from citadel

[quartz gulch]

You just did exactly that. And seriously, the game literally has sexual intercourse, how would that even be bad in that context?

[compact cargo]

She was probably running from the citadel and didnt get far enough

[vivid horizon]

?!??!?!

[quartz gulch]

What the fuck?

[vivid horizon]

Didn't get fat enough?

Ohh didn't get far enough

[lavish sedge]

As karmileta literally gave the skarr power to resist the haunting

[quartz gulch]

You know the Stilkin likely all wear wreaths?

[vivid horizon]

Mb twn

[lavish sedge]

Wa