sk-discussion

[north ore]

I agree people should play Hollow Knight first, but its nothing to be concerned over

[sinful yarrow]

I'll be fine he has as he jumps into the first attack and slides into the lava

[wanton pelican]

why wont team cherry make silksong mac compatible 😢

[brittle totem]

how do I get to act 3

[sinful yarrow]

I have decent hours in hollow knight I'm fine

I know enough hollow knight combat to do silksong

[north ore]

do as many quests as you can

ideally all

and then check in with the Caretaker

[sinful yarrow]

If anything I'd be a little worse because I'm on controller this time

[wicked mason]

Ok you relieved me

[brittle totem]

who is caretaker

[north ore]

old guy at Songclave

calls you a bell ringing lout

[brittle totem]

O

[sinful yarrow]

Oh yeah hell no I wouldn't do that to myself from what I've heard and anyways I typically play games in chronological order

[wicked mason]

It's definitely gonna be harder to get used to different controls after you've already gotten used to something rlse

[mental acorn]

is there a way to fill out elder pilgrim journal entry without unlocking wanderers crest? I'm doing a run without binding crests. evo 1 hunter is all i got

[sinful yarrow]

Combat on controller feels better but platforming is so much worse

[wicked mason]

Ive heard controller is 10x easier in everything but I haven't tried myself

[brittle totem]

should I get the plant to give me the twisted child?

[north ore]

whats an elder pilgrim

[mental acorn]

the ones that fly and slam on you

wiki says only way is act 3 :(

[north ore]

probably

just do as many quests as you can

there are specific ones you need but I dont remember them, and theyre all super late act 2 anyway

[north ore]

yk you dont have to bind the crest after beating the gauntlet right?

[sinful yarrow]

Lace is a fucking idiot she just fell off the side

LMFAO

[wicked mason]

Why art thou overly organized?

[north ore]

wdym

[wicked mason]

Thats great i guess

[mental acorn]

yk not binding the crest doesnt let the enemies spawn right

[coarse leaf]

i still die to groal while in water. im a loser

[north ore]

oh mb I thought you meant the one that jumps you in the gauntlet

[mental acorn]

ive done all the crest gauntlets and bosses, just havent done the crests themselves.

[wicked mason]

Thou maketh spaces between thy speeches

[mental acorn]

thats in the marrow, not bonegrave.

[heady tinsel]

and make sure to sell some relics. 💀 that's what prevented me from getting to a3 for the longest time because I was thinking like in HK once I sold them they'd be gone gone. (and for anyone who doesn't know: but in Silksong you can still view them and even get bonus lore for selling them)

[sinful yarrow]

Yeah it caused her to enter phase 2 early LOL

[north ore]

I like line breaks

they make shit more readable

also stop comparing me to Victorian lingo just cuz of it

lowk insulting

[wicked mason]

Yeah that lava deals some nice damage

[sinful yarrow]

Oh you can just straight up knock her off

I just did it

This is so fun I love this boss

[wicked mason]

How have I insulted you? What is Victorian lingo that thee speak of? Dost thou dishonor me?

[heady tinsel]

iirc there's also one in the Marrow as well that needs Cling Grip to get to. but that's only enough for it to appear in the journal, not to get the expanded entry

[sinful yarrow]

WHY AM I STUPID

[wicked mason]

There ya go

[sinful yarrow]

IM ACTUALLY STUPID THIS BOSS IS TAKING ME SO LONG

[wicked mason]

Ok I guess that's not a there ya go

[north ore]

if you genuinely enjoy speaking like that then continue

but if youre doing it just to make fun of ma line breaks, you just look like an idiot

[mental acorn]

im maxing out all I can before act 3. i got every single thing in wormways that I can before act 3 makes it worse.

[wicked mason]

Thou maketh fun of me, I enjoy speech in Shakespearean, do not judge me, Chorus! Now leave me be, I shall not sense thy dishonor no longer!

[coarse leaf]

WRONG IMG

[wicked mason]

Gorilla?

[wicked mason]

💔

[coarse leaf]

NERF GROAL HOLY SHIT NERF GORLANERF GROAL HOLY SHIT NERF GORLANERF GROAL HOLY SHIT NERF GORLA

[wicked mason]

Groal ezzzz

[north ore]

I legit said if you genuinely enjoy speaking like that then continue

voice of a thinker, words of a fool

[heady tinsel]

downpatch & groal skip is the mvp of silksong 😂

[violet path]

be better

[wicked mason]

I sense more of thy disrespect and dishonor. Pray tell, wherefore dost thou haunt me? And who sent thee..? If it's Romeo, I shall let thee go. If thee sent thyself, then tremble! For thou shalt see my special attack (papyrus reference 🤯)

[sinful yarrow]

My one issue with controller is that it's stupidly easy to mispogo

[north ore]

* Flirt

[wicked mason]

Oh shit its too much now

[north ore]

* Spare

[brittle totem]

wtf

[wicked mason]

Fine, human! I will spare you... Just don't tell sans, I guess?

Oh you spared me

[north ore]

its been ages I forgot which way round spare and mercy went

[wicked mason]

True 😔

I almost got confused too

[north ore]

I wonder if gloves with a punch card do more damage than the knife

[wicked mason]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

I think?

[north ore]

krazy

Asgore aint gonna know what hit him next game

[wicked mason]

😔😔💔

[north ore]

Ill spare him obviously

gonna get the pacisift ending innit

[wicked mason]

Welcome to #sk-discussion , where anything but sk discussion is discussed!

[north ore]

and then immediately get to work on genocide

[spark relic]

Fr

[wicked mason]

Yes my guy

[wicked mason]

I haven't beat undyne till this very day

[north ore]

which is sad cuz it means I have to kill Toriel again

[wicked mason]

And ended up uninstalling the fucking game

[wicked mason]

Dam

Imma go sleep

[vivid raptor]

What do you think could be a good final boss for the 4th silksong pantheon

[wicked mason]

Its 6 am goodness what am I doing with my life

[north ore]

I killed her on ma very first game thinking itd just knock her out or some shit

[wicked mason]

Brutal

[wicked mason]

A Weaver typa boss

Didn't lace and phantom have a 3rd sister orrr

[north ore]

a weaver of some prowess

maybe Alta?

and then the 5th is AbsGMS

[vivid raptor]

Meh, I feel like Shade Lord is more fitting

[wicked mason]

What would absGMS be called 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[warm charm]

how is she drinking

[vivid raptor]

"Take your place at the pantheon's peak"

[wicked mason]

Impossible boss 😨

[vivid raptor]

Canonically Shade Lord would beat the crap out of her

[warm charm]

Grand Grand Mother Silk /j

[wicked mason]

I'm gonna fucking sleep

Why am I still here

[wicked mason]

💔

[north ore]

Hallownest's p4-5 combo was the mortal bug that stands before the God

plus I wanna fight more weavers

they have a way of making their fights super fun

[vivid raptor]

But i feel like an AbsGMS would be boring

Also why would Atla fight Hornet?

[warm charm]

absgms should have new attacks I think

[north ore]

why would Sheo fight Ghost

[vivid raptor]

It feels like a copy of AbsRAD

[north ore]

not Sheo, Sly

mb

[vivid raptor]

I mean, we already have 2 Weaver bosses

Widow and First Sinner

[north ore]

I want more

weavers are fun to fight and we only get to fight 2

[iron spear]

Sly is a very complex dude he has his reasons

[warm charm]

I just like the weaver fight music its peak

[vivid raptor]

True

The Order of the Pinstresses could be cool for the 3rd Pantheon

[north ore]

actually yeah thatd line up with the Nailmasters

since they are basically the Nailmasters

even tho only 1 of them functions like a Nailmaster

[vivid raptor]

Hive Queen Vespa could be the 2nd Pantheon's boss

[warm charm]

please no more pinstress, unless it's completely different

I do not want to fight pinstress again

[north ore]

Pinstress fight is fun you just gotta get over the initial shock

[thin tusk]

So the 69th Chorus is shedinja

[vivid raptor]

One is dead
One is retired
One is still loyal to her order

[north ore]

https://tenor.com/view/shedinja-pokémon-shedinja-solar-beam-pokémon-solar-beam-shedinja-uses-solar-beam-gif-26749861

[warm charm]

I fought pinstress several times and it wasn't fun any of them
conceptually there are lots of good ideas, but in practice you end up either waiting too much or failing to reliably hit pinstress during her airtime unless you're very skilled

[north ore]

Seamstress packed up Fourth Chorus, she can deffo still fight, just chooses not to

and the green one is dead, we dont know what theyre capable of

[vivid raptor]

She'd only fight if she was attacked first

[north ore]

you tried to hit during her airtime?

[rocky jolt]

pinstress is just duelslop

[warm charm]

the only other alternative is waiting

[north ore]

Sheo is the p2 boss, I dont see why Seamstress cant have a pantheon

[spark relic]

Duelslop?

[warm charm]

and waiting for that much time is boring

[north ore]

oh no

patience

my worst enemy

[vivid raptor]

I have more ideas so why not make it like the Sisters of Battle

[spark relic]

Me when I stagger Pinstress just for her to fall off the arena 😭

[warm charm]

at least with something like First Sinner I can spend the time I'm not attacking chasing her down

[north ore]

also yeah wtf is duelslop

[vivid raptor]

Hive Queen Vespa could be a good boss too

[north ore]

first we had parryslop now duelslop

[warm charm]

comparatively, it is, because I don't think any other boss in the game forces you to spend that much time doing so little

[vivid raptor]

But what would be good for P4

[north ore]

you could try throwing reds at her during the airtime if its that bad

[warm charm]

to be clear I don't hate the Pinstress fight, it's not objectively bad, just less fun than most others

[spark relic]

Especially in Act 3 with fights like Karmelita existing in the same act

[north ore]

like

if shes gonna spend the whole fight floating at a roughly 45 degree angle from you

throw some threefold pins

a savvy warrior uses all their tools

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-gif-25104149

[warm charm]

true true, I just prefer to not have to resort to those

and yeah I know I don't "have" to but still

[north ore]

see it not as a resort

see it as an option

Blade Wolf didnt "resort" to his knives, he just throws them when he feels like it

https://tenor.com/view/rule104-blade-wolf-gif-26163948

[warm charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/500703754585374730.png?quality=lossless&name=MikoThink&size=48

[vivid raptor]

What would the Pantheon 1 fight be

[spark relic]

Prob seamstress

[north ore]

probably Seamstress if we're going the Order of the Pins route

[vivid raptor]

Seamstress and Pinstress then P2 will have the dead pinstress?

[north ore]

followed by Ductstress, and finally Pinstress

[vivid raptor]

That would take 3 Pantheons

[rocky jolt]

onlyu npcs want a seamstress fight

[north ore]

exactly

3 panths for 3 pinstresses

[warm charm]

what else would 3 be?

[tidal glade]

Pantheon 4 is Queen Vespa

[spark relic]

Then what's your proposition?

[vivid raptor]

No not really

[north ore]

ok give a better idea

[vivid raptor]

I was thinking of it be a Pantheon 3 fight

[north ore]

cant be Hornet's 3 moms cuz I cant see the White Lady throwing hands

[rocky jolt]

shakras master

upgraded fourth chorus

[tidal glade]

1st Pantheon u want an act 2 dead npc?

[vivid raptor]

I don't see how it would be different from Shakra's fight

[rocky jolt]

hell even zylotols master could be a boss

but thats for sos

[north ore]

no thematic connection at all

first 3 pantheons ideally should have a connection

like the Nailmasters and Nailsage

or, like we said, the Order of the Pins

[vivid raptor]

[rocky jolt]

who said they should have a connection

[north ore]

only npcs dunk on an obviouslt good idea

[rocky jolt]

did godseeker tell you this

[north ore]

and then propose a worse idea in exchange

[rocky jolt]

seamstress is gonna be literally just pinstress but a shorter version of her

[warm charm]

you could do a lot of things with a character we know little about combat-wise

[vivid raptor]

We literally have barely any content of the other 2 pinstresses, one of them is DEAD

[rocky jolt]

theres a reason mato and oro were in the same fight

[north ore]

you literally dont know that

they could have completely different styles to each other

[rocky jolt]

id take ducts pinstress over seamstress

[spark relic]

Then we proceeded to get Sheo and Sly in the next 2 pantheons

[knotty vapor]

GMS is weirdly made out of Silk?

[vivid raptor]

Why not
P1: Seamstress and Pinstress
P2: Ductstress
P3: Hive Queen Vespa

[void moat]

fully made of silk yes

[north ore]

Ductstress can be panth2 I agree

[knotty vapor]

if GMS is made out of Silk and is a higher being,

Lace Upscale 🤑

[north ore]

cuz how does Vespa connect to the Order

theyve never even met each other

Sly is p3 because hes the Nailsage, master of the 3 Nailmasters you fought before

[vivid raptor]

What would the version of Sly for silksong even be

Vespa was originally a boss before it was scrapped

With its own FULL spritesheet

[spark relic]

That would've been cool

[warm charm]

the pantheons don't need to mirror hk's structure so closely

[vivid raptor]

I can get an image of the sprites right now

[rocky jolt]

red memory never needed a bossfight

[warm charm]

what

[vivid raptor]

We aren't talking about the Red Memory

[north ore]

wouldve been cool tho

[rocky jolt]

vespa was most likely going to be a red memory fight

[vivid raptor]

Because it was

[warm charm]

you don't know that

[rocky jolt]

so youre saying you want it for the hype moments and aura

[spark relic]

Yes? Problem?

[north ore]

yk I only found out a few hours ago that kingambit are incapable of standing up

[rocky jolt]

no

[warm charm]

that is exactly what the red memory is for

[rocky jolt]

but yes at the same time because thats the same type of people that wanted a ''voided'' gms fight

[spark relic]

Lost and chained is the closest thing thing we have to that rn

[north ore]

why voided in quotes when you can just say lost

[void moat]

gms already is voided in the game i dont think a lost gms is too crazy

[vivid raptor]

Shes literally weakened in the void since she's using all her strength to fight against the void and protect her child and herself

[rocky jolt]

gms wouldnt be lost because nobody cares about her and only causes trouble for pharloom

and also the right term is black-threaded

[sinful yarrow]

Oh I did it

That shouldn't have taken me 30 mins wtf

That's definitely harder than hornet protector to me atleast

[north ore]

is there a "right" term if its never officially stated how to refer to them?

is the boss called Black-Threaded Garmond?

[sinful yarrow]

Lace

[rocky jolt]

ingame code

[spark relic]

Which one?

[north ore]

is that the Greenpath one or the Edge one

[vivid raptor]

Garmond doesn't have silk inside of him

[sinful yarrow]

The first

[spark relic]

Ah

[sinful yarrow]

Greenpath

[spark relic]

Protector is greenpath

[void moat]

he does

[sinful yarrow]

Hornet sentinel is kingdoms edge

[north ore]

ic

not hard to be more difficult than Green Hornet

even in HK

[vivid raptor]

Oh

[void moat]

his town was destroyed by the haunting which means it was in pharloom which means he has silk inside of him

[sinful yarrow]

I mean not like a lot more harder but I think it's a little more difficult

[spark relic]

Especially when every boss and their mother does double damage

[vivid raptor]

Wouldn't he be haunted then

[north ore]

every Lace and her mother

[vast grove]

🇸🇪🇦 🇴🇫 🇸🇴🇷🇷🇴🇼 🇹🇴🇲🇴🇷🇷🇴🇼

[vivid raptor]

??

[vast grove]

if u squint, u can see the hidden meaning

[copper hedge]

i see flags

[vivid raptor]

Its just flags and letters

[rocky jolt]

macao

[sinful yarrow]

Lace is slower than hornet protector but her counter does double damage and you can get knocked off the edge which also does double damage

[spark relic]

Welcome to Silksong

[vast grove]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[copper hedge]

like, what does this mean

[vivid raptor]

Gif fail

[north ore]

SwedenA OF SomaliaRROW (??)(??)RROW

[sinful yarrow]

EMBED FAIL LAUGH AT THIS USER

[vivid raptor]

Sea of Sorrow

[north ore]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[copper hedge]

vine logo

[north ore]

nice try cannonball you cannot fool me

[vivid raptor]

Absolute Grand Mother Silk feels like a copy of Absolute Radiance

[north ore]

Lace feels like a copy of Lace

[spark relic]

Gms is just worse base radiance

[scarlet karma]

lace might hear that (he’s not a ragwbaiter)

[vivid raptor]

Because its Lace??? GMS and RAD are different beings

[north ore]

Hornet feels like a copy of Hornet

Soul Warrior feels like a copy of Soul Warrior

[scarlet karma]

not even thk level

[void moat]

hornet in silksong does genuinely feel like a copy of hornet

silksong feels like a hk fanfic

[scarlet karma]

Silksong copied off hollow knight bro

[spark relic]

At least Thk could deal some crazy emotional damage

[vivid raptor]

Sawtooth and Clawline destroys her

[north ore]

wdym

the hornet isnt in Silksong

the silksong is

[vivid raptor]

Sent to the void

[spark relic]

Lost car

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/optical-illusion-neggativity-meme-gif-8861177370121328289

[vivid raptor]

Lost Car and it's attack is just flying and running you over like Savage Beastfly

[spark relic]

Complete with projectile spamming double damage adds

[north ore]

journal hunting gotta be one of the most boring parts of the game ngl

[vivid raptor]

And it turns on it's blinkers and summons Absolute Radiance

[north ore]

both games even

[rocky jolt]

untelegraphed backsteps

[warm charm]

agreed

thats actually the only achievement I don't have rn

[rocky jolt]

why does nuu want to know about the gargant gloom

[vivid raptor]

Killing it once should give the entry, what do you mean i have to kill something 30 times to get it's entry? Or at least dont make its amounts so high

[spark relic]

Summoned Savior? The boss that is a steel soul exclusive and has the audacity to think that it's too good to telegraph it's attacks

[north ore]

uuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hate these fuckin things

[rocky jolt]

summoned saviour is truly a boss

[warm charm]

where do you even find those things, I genuinely forget

[rocky jolt]

a boss with attacks

[vivid raptor]

It has like 200 hp? Or was it 540

[spark relic]

Those gloom enemies in the abyss just creep me out

[vivid raptor]

It's like soul warrior

[north ore]

they spawn during the 2nd Savage Beastfly fight, and in the weird lava room next to Seamstress

after you complete the lava room, one will spawn outside it

[spark relic]

Except soul warrior telegraphs it's attacks

[rocky jolt]

you will never guess what his name is and what he is doing

[warm charm]

oh so it's just one at a time after those? annoying af

[brazen saffron]

yk what's with there being an extreme abundance of people saying "this is the most annoying enemy in the game" and somehow there's a 1 in 2 chance its different every time

[vivid raptor]

Scroll Reader

Scroll Reading

[brazen saffron]

like there's the driznits

[north ore]

as far as I know, at least

[rocky jolt]

hes so cute he needs his little lamp buddy to help him read scrolls better

[vivid raptor]

Driznargas are worse than the Driznits

[north ore]

I was wrong

2 spawn here

[brazen saffron]

i was looking for more stuff to name hold on

[spark relic]

Because there's like 20 different enemies fighting for that position

[north ore]

and the Weavenest is closer so Ima use that bench instead

damn

not only closer, same map segment

[brazen saffron]

the filth in bilewater

like somehow its practically all of them

[vivid raptor]

Muckmaggots

[warm charm]

I hate stilkins

[brazen saffron]

no i meant like
basically everything there

aside from like 2-3 insignificant things

[spark relic]

The reason I hate blighttown Sinner's road, Putrified Ducts, and Bilewater

[north ore]

imagine if Hornet's needolin songs all changed to DragonForce when shes using the beast crest

just for no reason

[warm charm]

it should happen but only in fury

[spark relic]

Not that because they're annoying, because they're disgusting

[north ore]

too situational

also how do you handle when fury runs out and youre still playing

[warm charm]

pause the fury timer during needolin
this will have no significant consequences whatsoever

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1085292303628910723.png?quality=lossless&name=nyaboom&size=48

[spark relic]

Silksong already has an enemy and item randomizer, that's terrifying 😭

[north ore]

Base needolin could be Through The Fire And Flames just cuz

Beastling call could turn into Cry Thunder

Deep Elegy could be The Last Dragonborn

And maybe as a completely separate feature, having both volt vessels and volt filament equipped could change how your needolin sounds

Cuz like

You're electrifying the guitar

[warm charm]

wait

better idea

[north ore]

https://tenor.com/view/spinosaurus-gif-9087451433212695409

[warm charm]

Through the Fire and Flames but only while flintslate is active

also flea brew makes any song play on nightcore

[north ore]

Maybe maybe

And it could apply the burn dot to any enemies caught in the trance

Let's make needolin useful for combat

Onrad

[north ore]

Flea brew makes you play the speed up tiktok version of the vanilla songs

[warm charm]

needolin is now an S tier utility

[spark relic]

Spider strings upscale?

[copper hedge]

spider strings makes the songs louder

earrape version on demand

[warm charm]

"Silksong's Newest Update Made THIS The Best Tool!?"
Thumbnail: silhouette of Spider Strings with an arrow pointing to it and text "ACTUALLY GOOD?"

[spark relic]

With the meme of Hornet pointing to it

[warm charm]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1301800331633627207.png?size=160

[winged current]

Pimpillo is such an aura tool if you could use it well it's crazy

Especially using the ricochet

[spark relic]

Poison Cogflies my beloved (also another reaper fan)

[copper hedge]

im calling the silkshot + pimpillos red tool combination as the "tactical arms" red tool build

guns, and a fire bomb

[winged current]

My brethren

[spark relic]

Wait isnt pimpillo the bombs? I was thinking about polyp pouch

[copper hedge]

bringing a firearm in a sword fight 🔥

[winged current]

Plus rosary cannon

[copper hedge]

again, Hornet should be able to mod the weaver silkshot into a sniper rifle

[spark relic]

There's gonna be a mod for that in the future

[copper hedge]

Pharloom Warfare mod when

[crisp heron]

kill lace mod when

[spark relic]

But why tho

[copper hedge]

funny idea: find a giant coffee bean in Pharloom, go to GMS, GMS suddenly snatches the coffee bean from you, eats it raw, and becomes Awakened GMS

[earnest drift]

lace already dies in parasite ending

and she probably dies in weaver queen

also you can kill her in act 3 by pressing the attack key very hard so you hit her harder

[copper hedge]

tbh

[earnest drift]

I like pimpillo

[earnest drift]

lost lace is better than all of these but yes thk is the most emotional out of these four

broken vessel is mid

[west relic]

The goat my goat is gone

[trim estuary]

Lost Garmond 😹

[runic flume]

ok for a first time first run player what would yu say is a good time for beating the game

[young saffron]

Bro thinks ppl care about garmond

[runic flume]

my save is 88h and 15m with 90 percent

[sinful yarrow]

I KNEW THE ROBOT WAS GONNA COME ALIVE I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO MS NOT-AS-GOOD-AS-CONIFER

[runic flume]

is that decent for my first save

[spark anchor]

which robot

[runic flume]

the one in deep docks i think

pretty sure thats whta they mean

[earnest drift]

I’m glad silksong doesn’t have annoying characters like Quirrel

[spark anchor]

there's no robots in deep docks

[runic flume]

i really enjoyed silksong

bro yes there is

the one right before you get drifters clock

[spark anchor]

none of these are robots

[runic flume]

or far feilds i its that far

then its in far feilds

mb for the misspeak

[sinful yarrow]

Ok I'm salty but this boss is tediously long let me out

[north ore]

Sprinkle onion & garlic granules on your next grilled cheese

[glacial bane]

Skip it

Watch a yt tutorial

[placid citrus]

lmao

[sinful yarrow]

????? Dude it took all of the platforms away and I fell in the lava

What like they all disappeared what was I supposed to do

[north ore]

Genuinely how I was able to beat lego marvel super heroes

[glacial bane]

Whos ballow

[placid citrus]

fly

[north ore]

Where

[sinful yarrow]

Fucking fourth chaos boss

[placid citrus]

how do u not know my goat ballow

[north ore]

The guy shovelling flint next to Forge Daughter

[sinful yarrow]

It's so LONGGG

Like the boss is easy it's just really long

[languid plaza]

h

[placid citrus]

u supposed to fly there and skip 2nd phase with the big rock at the top of the arena

[north ore]

Float, or pogo on their hands as they do the sweep

Apparently 4th Chorus is meant to give you a chance to break into the drift cloak

[languid plaza]

[spark anchor]

guy that looks like the smelt shovellers (the hoo-yahs)

[glacial bane]

I thought that his name was smelt showeller

[north ore]

Ngl what even is the point of that one pkm item that gives you a 20% chance to move first

Why even rely on that

80% accuracy for an attack is already low in a battle

[placid citrus]

his name literally pops up when u talk to him

[north ore]

Im not sure abt lower acts but in act 3 he's named Ballow

[sinful yarrow]

My other gripe I feel like I just can't see where I'm at when it's one platform

I literally can't see

[placid citrus]

he doesn't change his name bro

[placid citrus]

wym

[north ore]

I mean his name is revealed to be Ballow in act 3

I'm not sure if we're told that in lower acts

[placid citrus]

we are

[glacial bane]

@sinful yarrow is it your first playthrough?

[sinful yarrow]

Yeah

[placid citrus]

that's not some big reveal it happens like as soon as u meet

[north ore]

When did I say it was some big reveal

Just bc something is revealed doesn't mean its a big reveal

[placid citrus]

everything in act 3 is a big reveal

[tight viper]

you can learn his name in act 1, it pops up whenever you talk to em

[north ore]

Hornet is revealed to be a thin stick bug once you're in the Far Fields

That doesn't mean it's some great reveal

[solar hill]

When will the dlc release any educated guesses

[north ore]

Tomorrow

[placid citrus]

i mean it kinda was ngl

[solar hill]

Reason?

[glacial bane]

If you want to cheese a harder boss in act two i recommend not breaking the rock

[north ore]

Did you think she was some fatass cone shape underneath her dress

[north ore]

It's always tomorrow with Silksong release dates

[placid citrus]

i thought she'd be more of a spider

[glacial bane]

June

[solar hill]

Okay okay

[north ore]

She's half wyrm

8 legs 🔁 0 legs = 4 legs

[placid citrus]

i wasn't talking abt the leg count, more the stick bug part

[north ore]

https://tenor.com/view/first-sinner-silksong-gif-6894299109498768423

Her entire species is built like that, sans her mother

[placid citrus]

the weavers got like ribs and stuff tho

[north ore]

Once again

Half wyrm

Herrah's clan made the mistake of assuming Hornet to be more weaver than wyrm

Don't you do it too

[placid citrus]

i'm just saying it was KINDA a big reveal yk

[north ore]

Ig if you wanna see it that way

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-hollow-knight-scuttle-run-gif-10872844583956959431

[placid citrus]

skonging it

[north ore]

Silksong best features

Number 6

Allows you to be a crawler, a cringer, and a smallest of yhe small

[placid citrus]

it'd be peak if we actually got godseeker to call us that in a dlc

[north ore]

Why wait

Use that line in your daily life

[placid citrus]

bro u right

[north ore]

I'm always right, I use shedinja on pkm showdown

[placid citrus]

what's pkm showdown

[gloomy prism]

I dont think sk will add more characters from hk because they only added mr. Mushroom

[placid citrus]

probly not but we'll maybe get some1 from their lands

[compact hamlet]

It’s gonna become its own game where you play as a pale lobster person. See you next decade.

[north ore]

Pokémon Showdown

Fanmade pokemon sandbox

Build any team you want for various formats and then battle

[placid citrus]

oyeee ik that

[solar hill]

I think the dlc won't be that big

[compact hamlet]

I do hope sea of sorrow introduces more marine arthopods because I am 100% Crust King Khan (and his associates) are Crabs

[placid citrus]

that's what we said abt skong

[north ore]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2544736210

Here's one of my proudest battles

[solar hill]

Man tbh I player hk in 2023 🥀 so I didn't have to wait 7 years

[compact hamlet]

Conch flies are weird because in the real world, Conchs are Snails

[regal isle]

what if it was a conch that could fly

[sinful yarrow]

And you know he dead that was kinda fun

[compact hamlet]

They have legs and are segmented, like an insect

[solar hill]

That cutscene was very pretty when we use that ability to go up

[compact hamlet]

Snails, do not have legs, and are fully smooth.

[vivid raptor]

Hmm

[regal isle]

true, its a conch insect with wings

[placid citrus]

uh which one were u

[grim forum]

Why magnetite dice lowk saving my buhh every 17 picoseconds during cogwork dancers

[modern crypt]

Hello :)
Does anyone have a good resolution Silksong/HK wallpaper?

[solar hill]

That saved my life so many times ong

[north ore]

All fire team

I swept with Silver Chariot

You will never catch me using a lopunny

Or an un-nicknamed pokemon

[gloomy prism]

Its way worse than carefree though because it starts at 0%

[placid citrus]

i thought u were the other person and i expected u to clutch up cuz they were getting destroyed

[north ore]

Unless only 1 of that pokemon exists canonically

But I also only use regular mons so that won't happen

[north ore]

Nah

I'm not so boring or perverted as to use lopunny

[sinful yarrow]

MY BELLBEAST I LOVE HIM

can I have him please

[grim forum]

AHEM, HER

[sinful yarrow]

I DIDN'T KNOW THE GENDER

[grim forum]

EIERA IS A GIRL

[sinful yarrow]

I JUST STARTED THE GAME I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE

[vivid raptor]

She has babies

[gloomy prism]

Wait we know her name? Since when?

[void moat]

we dont

[vivid raptor]

Hornet shouts "Eira!" Or something similar when calling her

[placid citrus]

they could be a single father

[sinful yarrow]

IIM LEAVING 8M GETTING SPOILED

[grim forum]

Hornet always calls out "Eiera" when she calls the bellbeast

[night cosmos]

how do i unlock vc groups?

[grim forum]

250 messages or smth

[north ore]

Complete the Trial of the Moderator

[placid citrus]

silk ur song

[night cosmos]

wtf

[runic flume]

silky song

[grim forum]

Chapel of the mod

[void moat]

which is prolly just bug talk for "come here"

also funky how yarnaby's name isn't nao if every calling is a character's name

[night cosmos]

dont google that trust

[placid citrus]

bro what

[night cosmos]

just dont alr

[minor sparrow]

idk if that holds up

[north ore]

Changes your needle to a keyboard which you use to perma ban opponents

Muckmaggots regenerate your silk and binding deals 3 masks of damage

[minor sparrow]

especially after bell eater

[grim forum]

Ur right but let me imagine breh, i like to believe that EIRA is a GIRL and she is our PRECIOUS BABY and her kids are our GRANDBEASTS

[gloomy prism]

Blud its just a music vid nothing scary

[night cosmos]

thats not what popped up for me nvm

[grim forum]

Turn off your safe search

[night cosmos]

end of discusion

[placid citrus]

no one rlly cares for the canon tho, we've been naming random silksong characters for years without knowing their canon names

[gloomy prism]

My parents restricted that option for good reason...

[compact hamlet]

True endinf spoilers || I really hope the final dlc answers the questions related to The Hollowknight, Shadelord, and Godseeker.
Both Knight and Shadelord cameo, so how come it presents itself in both forms? What happened to the Godseeker? If Shadelord is present, then that means Hollow never joined his brethren, and encountered Hornet.||

[minor sparrow]

the only reason why i think its what hornet calls the bell beast is because of the small cutscene after bell eater

[void moat]

i really cant think of an instance we've done that

[placid citrus]

ass jim

[earnest drift]

ass jim

[void moat]

as far as i know that's their canon name

[minor sparrow]

are we counting the grub names or

[placid citrus]

we had a community name for groal too

[north ore]

Every time someone refers to a vessel as "he" a flea loses its wings

[placid citrus]

ye but everyone calls them their own thing

[void moat]

tc's done it on a few occasions, it can be annoying but i dont think it's that big a deal

[gloomy prism]

No everyone knows who pierogi is

[void moat]

tc not tk

[earnest drift]

did they actually? can you show

[tight viper]

Silksong 2 when

[void moat]

it's been done in a few interviews i can try to find it

[minor sparrow]

i think it's only annoying because one of hornets titles is gendered child

[earnest drift]

tc also explicitly confirmed that the knight is genderless

[compact hamlet]

My point still stands

What the hell is The Hollow Knight up to?

[placid citrus]

yeah if the others get asigned a gender then hornet's uniqueness is gone

[scarlet karma]

like the Ukrainian dish?

[earnest drift]

they’re more explicitly nb than Kris deltarune

[north ore]

I could get woke and say how it's disregarding thousands of bugs' agender status, and is akin to saying lesbians are "just close friends"

Or I could attempt to de escalate by joking that it hurts me in particular and so it's bad

[minor sparrow]

depends on what ending it follows

[compact hamlet]

If they are a gender, then…

[north ore]

Wdym

Who's they

[minor sparrow]

ETV, probably fuck all or helping restore the kingdom

[tight viper]

Hornet doesn't encounter the shadelord, Hornet only sees a small glimpse of it. The knight is present, not the shade lord

[compact hamlet]

As I said, if || Shadelord is present, then it has to be one of the godhome endings. ||

[placid citrus]

they're hollowing their knight

[void moat]

most of the time it's a mistake, if they continue to do it and are actively being enbyphobic it's a problem

[north ore]

Didn't TC say that they tried to design skong to line up equally well with any of the endings?

[void moat]

i get being tilted by it though

[minor sparrow]

the siblings are also depicted in flashes, but are also not there individually with the knight at first

[raw pawn]

Btw there might not be a godhome dlc (but there will be a boss rush def) cause the godseeker is pretty much dead rn

[placid citrus]

they never said that

[north ore]

I heard tilted and immediately thought of Tilted Towers

I don't even like Fortnite

[compact hamlet]

Bigger question then

How the hell does Hornet un-door

[tight viper]

not guaranteed

[static anchor]

isn't there mutiple godseekers

[gloomy prism]

I would say normal godhome ending fits more bc godseeker dies

[static anchor]

like arent they a sort of group

[north ore]

"Tried to"

Plus maybe she just woke up idk

The 2 lesbians ik irl seem very rebellious by nature

[placid citrus]

y would that fit better

[compact hamlet]

Either way, we don’t know what happened to Hallownest. Since ||The void literally leaked out of Godseeker, then the NoFlower ending would lead to Hallownest getting Act3’d.||

[gloomy prism]

Bc nobody cares about flower ending

[north ore]

Honestly skill issue

All the events of Godhome took place in her mind palace

She could've just stopped thinking

[placid citrus]

YOU don't care abt flower ending

[minor sparrow]

sure, whatever you say man

[tight viper]

there's no silk threads for the void to hijack

[void moat]

realistically noflower and flower are valid imo

tk seems to have good intentions so i dont think theyd destroy hallownest

[minor sparrow]

obviously gay mourner comes out of retirement to throw a bunch of delicate flowers out at it

[placid citrus]

the shadelord don't need that when they hijack godseeker

[compact hamlet]

My personal headcanon is that they became The Hollow King

[tight viper]

that's because the shadelord is inside of godhome

[north ore]

Don't some of the dead bugs, notably No Eyes and the guy holding the love key, have black tears?

Love key guy in particular cuz he clearly had ties with the Collector, a void entity

It doesn't need silk to spread, it just used it in Pharloom

[tight viper]

that's completely different

[placid citrus]

they go out of godhome in the godhome ending through the godseeker

[gloomy prism]

Uhhh what you changed your message and it still says "gay mourner"?

[tight viper]

yes, I am agreeing with that, but that's not the same as black-threading

[minor sparrow]

why would I change it from saying gay mourner?

i changed of into at

[north ore]

Well I mean

She is one of the few confirmed gay characters

[minor sparrow]

she's gay, and a mourner

[tight viper]

but they don't get resurrected and attack the Knight, they're just dead due to void influence

[minor sparrow]

also it rhymes with her actual name

[placid citrus]

this is more dangerous cuz this is the shadelord themselves making it out the void instead of just using threads to take over bugs and stuff

[tight viper]

and No Eyes isn't voided

[tight viper]

No Eyes is just missing her eyes

[compact hamlet]

SHE WILL NEVER BE THEM.

[gloomy prism]

Bc i assumed you wanted to wite gray

[minor sparrow]

nah

[void moat]

weird how most every gay character dies in silksong/hk /gen

[compact hamlet]

OLD BUG YAOI ON TOP, FUCK YOU AND YOUR SHIPS

[raw pawn]

Was traitor's lord child killed by her tribe?

[void moat]

dont think so

[north ore]

Also on the topic of gay bugs I'd like to point out Bretta is likely pan since she falls head over heels for Ghost despite them having no gender

[tight viper]

the shadelord isn't just gonna destroy everything

[proven roost]

which volt vessel variant is better

the lightning column or the hollow purple

[earnest drift]

usually bolas are better

[static anchor]

hollow purple

[compact hamlet]

Fepends on the situation

[earnest drift]

they’re both good

[raw pawn]

I like using spear form more

[ancient spire]

Hornet: skibidi toilet

[earnest drift]

and they both suck ass for lost lace

[north ore]

They each have their situations

Columns melt Flame Father's 2nd phase but the imaginary technique melts the Unravelled

[static anchor]

you can land it more frequent but lowkey they are both mad good

[minor sparrow]

if it's a mostly stationary and above you can use the column

[earnest drift]

lost lace is the only boss that matters so voltvessels are bad

[placid citrus]

what we know of the void is it's only goal is to seek soul and that's it, so you'd assume nothing good would come of it as seen in act 3 and also hornet's fear of it prior to act 3 character arc

[minor sparrow]

like nyleth and fotf

[raw pawn]

She takes less than 5 seconds before teleporting lmao

[tight viper]

It's goal is to seek soul? Where are you getting this from?

[plain tundra]

If all the endings are equally viable in HK and SS, nothing stops those two endings from being seperate from Silksong’s other endings

[minor sparrow]

what? when is that ever said

[earnest drift]

Hornet says so

[void moat]

void consumes soul but it doesnt seek it

[earnest drift]

and we saw how void combines with soul in the first game

[north ore]

Gurr I killed you 2 hours ago how are you back wtf

[placid citrus]

that's the only thing it's after bro

[minor sparrow]

it's only goal is not to seek soul, as it, in hk, was seeking to defeat radiance, for pretty obvious reasons

[tight viper]

Checking dialogue, it can sense soul but it doesn't seem to actively seek it out

[proven roost]

lost lace is easy ngl

you can just face tank with wanderers and then jump up the wall and heal using multibinder

[plain tundra]

I sat on a bench
Sorry

[void moat]

determined for the hunt

[north ore]

WTF IS A YAMASK DOING IN #sk-discussion

[tight viper]

If it senses soul, it will go towards the soul and do its thing

[raw pawn]

I am missing slubberlugs in my hunter's journal and I don't think I wanna go fight these things again

[earnest drift]

you shouldn’t need to heal

[placid citrus]

those were the vessels, not the void itself, vessels are their own ppl

[old raft]

i freaking died in the ant arena i am such an idiot

[earnest drift]

the only reason you bind is if you’re using architect craft bind, or witch and beast bind

[static anchor]

doesn't void just lash out indiscriminately. it seems to be able to fuse with soul like the spells and silk

[plain tundra]

Why is a shedinja pretending to be a Chorus robot

[tight viper]

But it doesn't seem to just seek soul, instead it just stumbles upon soul, or soul stumbles upon it

[north ore]

Honestly LL might be at least a little easier than some bosses, solely for the ability to use barbed brace without the double damage

[gloomy prism]

If you dont bind at lost lace when using beast then you can literally just use hunter instead

[north ore]

Why is Galarian yamask just better in every way

[void moat]

the spells are tk merging shaman spells with their own essence, the void is just consuming the silk during act 3

[minor sparrow]

you can bind for beast boost

[static anchor]

what about abyss screech

[plain tundra]

Because an evil rock is more interesting than a face
-# but not as interesting as an evil face

[static anchor]

you get that directly from the void

[gloomy prism]

DOORS REFERENCE

[old raft]

i was thinking about save quit but nah it should be fine

[placid citrus]

it only fuses with soul when it's our knight that fuses them

[old raft]

then i insta got sniped

[static anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

[void moat]

still probably merging, you need a huge magic catalyst for tk to merge their essence with the spell

[plain tundra]

Embed:

[north ore]

Runerigus (I will not be spell checking) is a physical attacker, so it doesn't rely on being hit to trigger wandering spirit

It's also ground type, giving it electric immunity

Plus the face is kinda intimidating

[plain tundra]

Icl the url is more entertaining than the gif

[north ore]

https://tenor.com/view/runerigus-pokemon-animation-idle-gboys-gif-24552401

Love this guy

[plain tundra]

Same

[static anchor]

actually void seems to be able to miss with a lot of things tbh

like the cloak dash

mix*

[earnest drift]

void likes soul
a lot

[plain tundra]

The spells too right?

[placid citrus]

that's not the void itself tho, that's the knight using the void with it's will

[gloomy prism]

Void isnt even an object how can it like smth

[placid citrus]

objects can't like stuff

[static anchor]

wouldn't its will be more of a head canon thing

[raw pawn]

I used to not like plasmium phial that much until I realized how valuable it is in steel soul

[plain tundra]

Hornet says something about the void choosing to form barbed tendrils

[static anchor]

since the knight just takes a dip in the bootleg chozo statute and it works

[raw pawn]

Idk why it sent it again

[placid citrus]

the knight def has a will, that's literally all hk is abt, that the vessels all have wills and that pk's plan was doomed to fail from the start

[earnest drift]

how come vessels can’t talk but gargantuan blooms can make sounds

[static anchor]

i mean that it wills the void

[void moat]

tk has a will, all the vessels have wills

[static anchor]

tk defnitley has a will

[gloomy prism]

tk means the knight?

[static anchor]

but them getting shade cloak seems more due to the device

[north ore]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I JUST SAW ONE OF THE MINI BELL BEASTS DO THE STOMP THING LIKE ITS MOM

I DIDNT KNOW THEY DID THAT

[static anchor]

yes

[north ore]

I love this entire species I need more Bell Beast in my life

[placid citrus]

i mean.. isn't the whole arc abt getting the voidheart it bringing the void to it's will? wouldn't shadecloak just be a lil taste of that?

[raw pawn]

They can jump in the water in shellwood

[plain tundra]

Let’s see, the screaming isn’t from the Radiance inside thk is it?

[static anchor]

yeah but thats WITH the void heart

[north ore]

bug/steel with 90 base speed lets make it happen folks

[earnest drift]

wait what

[north ore]

the steel type is severely lacking in remotely fast mons anyway

[static anchor]

if it could will the void from the get go to get shad cloak then why need void heart. or why not just use any pool of void to get the shade cloak

[placid citrus]

yeah but it itself is a child of white lady and pk that was mixed with void, so wouldn't it be already kinda using the void?

[gloomy prism]

Im pretty sure the radiance cant scream

[static anchor]

i think its more to do with the weird devices and rituals that allow tk to get shade cloak and abuss scream

[static anchor]

collector can't use the void

[placid citrus]

collector is more like molded void unlike the vessels

[static anchor]

still he is MADE of it but he can't do tendrill attacks or shape shift

[north ore]

can humans use flesh-based attacks?

[placid citrus]

it could be like a yin and yang thing where if you strike the right balance between void and soul they could coexist and have a symbiotic relationship

[static anchor]

thats kinda my point

[earnest drift]

why can the collector talk

[gloomy prism]

Is "punch" flesh-based...?

[earnest drift]

what dictates whether a void being can talk or not

[north ore]

imagine if Eva gave me a close friends discount and gave me Sylphsong even tho Im missing a single locket

[raw pawn]

But how come the collector still attacks you when you have voidheart

[void moat]

yeah youre moving your flesh (muscles) to form an attack

[north ore]

no thats fighting type

dont you know anything?

you are NOT making it past the first gym

[static anchor]

i meaning swinging a sword doesn't mean you can control metal

[gloomy prism]

Im missing 2 and i have sylphsong

[placid citrus]

pretty sure the whole thing abt the collector is that he got like a will of his own, like the obsession with grubs which is why it doesn't act like the other void thingies

[earnest drift]

oh I didn’t think of that

[gloomy prism]

But this is the real world and not pokémon

[plain tundra]

It can scream. Notice the waves that come from it

[north ore]

o shit

Id assumed 32 was all the slots unlocked

never actually bothered to count

[earnest drift]

does that mean the knight having to attack void tendrils in sister of the void isn’t a plot hole

[static anchor]

i feel like that just did that for aura

[plain tundra]

Also, notice how every infected boss has the same scream

[vivid raptor]

I could do better but im lazy

[gloomy prism]

That isnt really a scream

[placid citrus]

i mean they clearly want us to make a distinction with just the void and the vessels

[static anchor]

idk how hornet is gonna beat the shade lord but sounds cool to me

[north ore]

voided only to die in 2 hits

tragic

[placid citrus]

it is tho, pv doesn't have a scream like that cuz they don't got a voice, they only can scream when they're infected with the radiance

[gloomy prism]

Bro pls no pinstress rematch its literally the worst boss after zango

[vivid raptor]

I dont know either but I refuse to make a buffed lost lace as the final boss

[vivid raptor]

Different mechanics

Its 3 not 1

[static anchor]

LOSTER LACE

[vivid raptor]

Lost Lost Lace

[placid citrus]

found lace

[copper hedge]

zango kinda mid but interesting at the same time. you just use the needle phial 4 times.

[minor sparrow]

just don't have hornet fight shade lord

[gloomy prism]

I thik they should just buff all bosses in sop

[placid citrus]

and then in the next dlc we get the TRUE true final boss, lost&found lace

[vivid raptor]

Lost Blazing Plasmified Silken Lace

[minor sparrow]

ill honestly be disappointed if they made hornet as she is fight shade lord

[copper hedge]

lace in a lost n found stand

lace plush

[vivid raptor]

No she wouldn't stand a single chance against Shade Lord as she is right now, maybe binding GMS's power or something

[placid citrus]

the fight is you searching through a box of lost and found things cuz lace got lost when u where taking her to an amusement park or smth

[plain tundra]

How about this then

[opaque vale]

I will no longer be the #1 beast crest fan

[minor sparrow]

i think post weaver queen she'd have an inkling of a chance but still no, Imo

[placid citrus]

will you be the only beast crest fan?

[copper hedge]

10% chance of finding lace
90% chance of fighting a silk-based miniboss

[opaque vale]

Probably

[static anchor]

ill take the role

beast gives me life

[north ore]

I like noticing that an enemy is voided bc it didnt die in the usual amount of hits, and then killing it before it can reveal the void anyway

[copper hedge]

feral life

[untold ermine]

Is it just me or do the cogwork dancers and karmelita's boss themes have kind of similar melodies?

[minor sparrow]

that's pretty screamy imo

[placid citrus]

we get an unravelled reskin

[vivid raptor]

Shaman could and would rival Architect if it didn't have an ass heal

[placid citrus]

maybe it's the dies irae motif or smth

[static anchor]

or if it was prepatch thread storm

[copper hedge]

and then we get Romino revived somehow as a miniboss

[placid citrus]

the heal doesn't really matter ngl

[placid citrus]

cinema

[untold ermine]

No but ig they just have a similar beginning

[minor sparrow]

didn't that just affect the extention and was patched twice?

[vivid raptor]

Shaman buffs Silk Skills, add the Volt Filament to it and its OP

[copper hedge]

actually... why not have the three conductors a part of the pantheons?

[placid citrus]

the extension was busted af

[void moat]

because theyre normal bugs without powers

[static anchor]

still notable damage diff

[vivid raptor]

???

[gloomy prism]

I think Absolute Plasmified Almighty Beautiful Powerful Enchanting Fearless Diligent Sensual Gorgeous Passionate Terrifying Vigorous Invincible Overwhelming Grey Prince Zote would be better

[void moat]

i also would rather die than fight triple unravelled but it can only do the cross arena sweep attack

[copper hedge]

ah ok

[placid citrus]

absolute conductor trio

[copper hedge]

Triple Trobbio: Trobbio, Tormented Trobbio, and Ecstatic Trobbio

[plain tundra]

Cool bug fact: Despite its incredible size, Pharloom is easy to navigate

Only two bugs become lost in the caves

[placid citrus]

add in a lost trobbio just cuz

[gloomy prism]

you mean heavenly trobbio hes in this server

[copper hedge]

oh god

[placid citrus]

y del

[plain tundra]

Not relevant anymore

[copper hedge]

i wonder how big the sea of sorrow dlc will be

[placid citrus]

i'm guessing maybe as big as bilewater?

[gloomy prism]

Prob not very big like hidden dreams

[copper hedge]

hmm. maybe

[plain tundra]

My conspiracy is that Sea of Sorrow is a bilewater memory

[minor sparrow]

hidden dreams didn't even have an area attached did it?

ik it was white defender and zote

[void moat]

bretta's basement

[placid citrus]

that'd be dumb ngl cuz they've been teasing clear water near bilewater with the pale lake and trail's end

[minor sparrow]

that's a room, not an area

[north ore]

idiot you shouldnt use hollow purple at point blank

[copper hedge]

forever licked as a burnt chicken

[plain tundra]

What I mean is a memory of bilewater from before it was polluted

[fallow dirge]

this game has hollow purple?

[gloomy prism]

It also added hive knight but yea no area

[north ore]

do you have voltvessels

[copper hedge]

voltvessels in bola form

[minor sparrow]

i don't see how that would be dumb but ok

[finite swift]

I feel like ifi touch those things i DIE

[fallow dirge]

nah

[placid citrus]

they wouldn't be adding items and stuff in a memory

[minor sparrow]

i thought hive knight was lifeblood

[north ore]

theres an area above the Choral Chambers called the Memorium

you need double jump to access it

[gloomy prism]

Oh youre right

[gloomy prism]

Or beast charge attack

[copper hedge]

was the submarine cutscene confirmed or thought to be confirmed to be a leak from SoS?

[placid citrus]

it was in the game files so

[minor sparrow]

?

[north ore]

you can get there with that??

[copper hedge]

ah. Pharloom Bay it is then

[placid citrus]

it could def be cut content tho and not smth that happened to make it in the release accidentally

but if it is then we can expect the dlc to be as big as the citadel cuz that submarine was def a fast travel cutscene

[copper hedge]

well, we cant be sure. however, the way that light thing shown in the teaser trailer kinda suggests otherwise

[gloomy prism]

Its used in a softlock video thats how i know (basically just enter putrified ducts without wings and without having defeated groal and not picking up buggy red tools softlock you at the bench above bilewater)

[minor sparrow]

...the submarine or

[copper hedge]

the submarine

[north ore]

you cant get to the bellway?

[placid citrus]

pretty sure that one's patched

[copper hedge]

its patched

[gloomy prism]

If you dont have clawline (you also need to skip it) then yes

[north ore]

duality of weaver

[placid citrus]

lmao

[gloomy prism]

Is every softlock patched? And if no is the infamous prison softlock still ingame? (Get caught without having wall jump)

[copper hedge]

hmmmm i do think we might get another trailer for SoS this march. its a random speculation, but i kinda feel it

[placid citrus]

every softlock probly isn't patched and idk abt the no wall jump slab

[north ore]

"boohoo selective breeding bad" vs "omg yay selective breeding" when the bug is soft

[placid citrus]

she valid for that ngl

[gloomy prism]

Can hornet even breed?

[placid citrus]

we'll probly get a release trailer when we're like close to the release

[north ore]

WHEN was that brought into discussion

[placid citrus]

she did try

[copper hedge]

also i just noticed the massive mossgrub has a mask similar to hornet's

[placid citrus]

hornet half moss grub confirmed???

[copper hedge]

more like, "omg it looks like me!!!!"

"why the spikes 😔😔😔"

[sharp slate]

born of weaver and mossgrub

[gloomy prism]

What? Do you mean that one journal entry?

[placid citrus]

na hornet likes fluffy things

[placid citrus]

ye

[gloomy prism]

But who doesnt

[placid citrus]

fr

[plain tundra]

I also like how the citadel’s entries are a mix of disgust and taking notes

[earnest drift]

Hornet is biased towards fluff

[safe ore]

Did sea of sorrow come out yet

[gloomy prism]

Zoteboat came out too

[earnest drift]

do you think lace ever put any weavers out of their misery
like when they were old and dying in Pharloom, lace paid them a visit and finished them off

[placid citrus]

she shows like respect towards some of the fighters and stuff, she's more disgusted by the slab guys

[rocky lotus]

No because lace is fucking evil and bad

[earnest drift]

and killing weavers (who deserve it) isn’t evil enough for her?

[placid citrus]

i'd assume she'd just lead them to gms like she did to hornet

[frigid matrix]

where do i go i have upgraded cloak and sprint and i beat fourth charm or whatever he was called im at forge daughter and im lost

[gloomy prism]

Lace is just laughing simulater wdym

[plain tundra]

She’s disgusted by the corruption of the citadel, and taking notes about weaponizing steam and stuff

[earnest drift]

no she wouldn’t do that

lace wants to be the one to wake up gms, she doesn’t want her to wake up just from consuming a weaver

[rocky lotus]

The weavers deserve a slow death tbh

[earnest drift]

[placid citrus]

the whole citadel functions on bringing weavers to gms so she could weave her silk

[earnest drift]

when is this said

[gloomy prism]

90% of lore is never said ingame

[earnest drift]

weavers only started being brought to gms after the haunting

[placid citrus]

by the 1000s of cages in the cradle with names of ppl that brought the weavers there

[earnest drift]

because she wanted to take their power and wake up

[plain tundra]

The ones possessed by gms?

[earnest drift]

that’s not to sustain the citadel, that’s to wake gms up

the cages were labled by haunted citadel members

[placid citrus]

ye

[north ore]

SHE WAS HERE THE ENTIRE TIME TOO WTF

HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS GAME HAVE I COMPLETELY MISSED

oh well at least I get to fight moss mother again

[placid citrus]

so was lace tryna make hornet turn back and not fight gms or was she egging her on?

[earnest drift]

yes, lace wanted to stop Hornet from getting to gms

because waking up gms was meant to be lace’s job, and she’s being replaced by weaver descendants

[placid citrus]

ah got u i misunderstood it then

[north ore]

that was surprisingly anticlimactic for a semi hidden boss fight

[placid citrus]

y del

[copper hedge]

must have been the wind

[earnest drift]

do you think lace killed any of the conductors

[placid citrus]

who knows

[earnest drift]

like mizello

I bet she killed the one that became the unravelled

[placid citrus]

i don't think lace hangs around whiteward

[north ore]

btw anyone know what these bugs are and where I can find em

[earnest drift]

how would gms react if lace decided to kill widow

[placid citrus]

the second one is probs the things you pogo on the surface climb

[copper hedge]

right one is those flying things you pogo on for the path of mild incovenience (the one going to the nameless town)

[north ore]

mk what abt the first one

[copper hedge]

first one is definitely the larger version of those flying things

[earnest drift]

Mr fat on mt fay

[north ore]

also is there a place where the old Wormways worms still exist in act 3 or have I forever lost the ability to 100% on this save

[north ore]

excuse me

[placid citrus]

ye in the crystal place in mt fay

[copper hedge]

east upwards of it

the one from where you enter it from shellwood

[earnest drift]

the enemy is fat on mt fay

[placid citrus]

in the path up to shellwood from wormways

[north ore]

you can enter mt fay from Shellwood..

you can enter shellwood from wormways.....

oh wait you mean that bit

[copper hedge]

also the old worms in wormways are also found in the weavenest, to where you get the sharpdart skill

[north ore]

how do you get all the way from shellwood to mt fay tho

[placid citrus]

that too

[placid citrus]

u missread probly

[north ore]

youre right

[finite swift]

hello silksong is City of Steel DLC out yet

[old raft]

bro i died in the ant arena again
i am such a moran

[placid citrus]

ye it came out tomorrow

[soft belfry]

Shellwood > blasted steps > citadel > slab > fay

Alternatively
Shellwood > bellhart > greymoor > sinners > bilewater > citadel > slab > fay

[finite swift]

CITY OF STEEL TOMMOROW!

[north ore]

I compehend the multi-map routes

I misread smt which led me to believe there was a way directly from shellwood to fay

[soft belfry]

Technically the bell beast station or getting caught to slab

Shellwood > slab > fay

[copper hedge]

why is there no shortcut path from Sands of Karak to The Slab, despite the former leaking in the latter

[placid citrus]

well the slab is supposed to be a prison so wouldn't make sense for it to have some back entrance into some coral wilds yk

[north ore]

why should there be?

[mid-late act 3]
highkey feel bad for him ngl

[placid citrus]

don't do lifeblood kids

[finite swift]

dont feel bad he wanted this 💔

[finite swift]

We need to cook Hornet

[placid citrus]

WHY r u blue zylotol

[north ore]

he didnt know it would do this

he had good intentions

by the time he mightve figured it out, he wouldve already been taken over

[placid citrus]

that honestly might be the effects of lifeblood

it's probly like the radiance, it draws u in

[raw pawn]

Can you use plasmium phial while you are muckmaggoted

Hmm lemme try it myself

[placid citrus]

ye

muckmaggots only eat silk

[finite swift]

This just creates a new higher being bro

[north ore]

I think he was still of sound mind in act 1

cuz in smaller doses, lifeblood absolutely does increase your vitality

[earnest drift]

idk what i'm doing

[north ore]

and I struggle to see how you can perform what looks like delicate scientific research while infected with a disease

[placid citrus]

i don't think so, i think it was already too late for him from the start

[north ore]

sniper rifle primary with smg secondary

would be a good build if it wasnt p2w

[earnest drift]

that's a crappy shotgun not a sniper rifle

[north ore]

fires a single pellet with enough force to pierce multiple enemies

its a sniper rifle

[placid citrus]

i think the point of lifeblood is to get you addicted with small doses first, like you think oh it's fine it's just a little bit and then you do more and more and more until you become what zylotol became

[north ore]

so basically lifeblood is heroin

[placid citrus]

yeah something like that

[north ore]

damn

[earnest drift]

it doesn't pierce multiple enemies?

[north ore]

tc genuinely put so many cool lil sub messages in their games

[earnest drift]

this is architect silkshot not weaver silkshot

[north ore]

oh

they look very similar mb

[earnest drift]

hang on i wanna check a dmg per silk thing

[placid citrus]

the weaver silkshot is straight up a railgun tho

[raw pawn]

Wait you are invincible for a bit when you use witch dash slash?

[placid citrus]

yeah and pogo too

[north ore]

railgun, ray gun, sniper rifle

true silkshot goes by many names

[placid citrus]

it'll always be a railgun in my heart

[earnest drift]

silkspear deals 15.75 dmg per silk
wispfire lantern deals 17 dmg per silk
weaver silkshot deals 34 dmg per silk (+shards)
architect silkshot deals 18 dmg per silk (+shards)
forge silkshot deals 20 dmg per silk (+shards)
snare setter deals 85 dmg per silk

[north ore]

to me itll always be a sawed off kar98k

[placid citrus]

valid

[earnest drift]

why does scuttlebrace have to override down dash
why can't they bind it to up + dash

[placid citrus]

i thought weaver shot was like 24 dmg

[placid citrus]

u win some u lose some

[north ore]

they had to nerf the most broken tool in the game somehow

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-hollow-knight-scuttle-run-gif-10872844583956959431

[earnest drift]

I FUCKING HATE POLLIP POUCH

[north ore]

then dont use it smh

[placid citrus]

nah pollip pouch + lifeblood phiall is a goated combo

[earnest drift]

pollip pouch when the boss moves 1 cm a bit too fast (poison is cancelled now (pollip npoison cancels when some bosses teleport))

[placid citrus]

i never play skong without this one

[north ore]

literally F on the pollip synergy teirlist

[placid citrus]

nah it's peak trust

u get to feel special for a few seconds

[earnest drift]

still better than flintslate + pollip

[north ore]

how

you lose your extra masks

0 purpose

[placid citrus]

uh it looks cool and that's what matters

[north ore]

pollip & plasmium go together like flukenest & d.crest

[raw pawn]

Oh damn

[placid citrus]

goated combos

[earnest drift]

it's technically a sidegrade since it turns a defensive tool into an offensive tool
flintslate turns from an offensive tool into a less offensive tools

[north ore]

theres more than enough offensive tools in the game

if you want dcrest so bad use pollip brew

that way you still get the original benefit of the tool ontop of the pollip effect

[placid citrus]

bro doesn't see the vision..

[cursive pagoda]

skong

[placid citrus]

fr

[north ore]

plasmium is a way for witches to heal in a bind and architects to heal without silk

[placid citrus]

it's only good for architect ngl

i never play architect myself so i'm just saying stuff btw

[north ore]

idk what else to put on witch

and the ability to heal whenever has helped me

[earnest drift]

i fucking love snitch pick so much ougghh

[north ore]

honestly 2 red tool slots feels overwhelming sometimes

[placid citrus]

flea brew is always a good option

[earnest drift]

none of the bosses have enough hp for me to make use of both slots

especally with shell satchel on

[north ore]

any time I use it I forget Im using it and it never gets used

[placid citrus]

that's just abt learning when to use it

[north ore]

the only time I ever actually managed to use it was in the far fields weavenest

plus I usually find my attacks to be fast enough as they are

[placid citrus]

i personally just use it to travel around faster and for some boss fights ik well

[placid citrus]

but what if.. they're faster

[north ore]

not worth taking the time to use a red tool, making myself vunerable, and then still having to find windows to attack

Im not gonna necessitate periodically running back to Fleatopia for a tool that Ill benefit from maybe 2-3 times per use

[placid citrus]

i just can't not use it ngl it's like a temporary quickslash

[north ore]

its also why I dont use flintslate

[still osprey]

I think the only time I've actually used flea brew is to get the rune harp in the far fields weavenest icl

[north ore]

exactly

[placid citrus]

u guys sleeping on the brews

[earnest drift]

apparently flea brew increases attack speed depending on the crest

[placid citrus]

makes sense

[earnest drift]

but i've never been able to find out what the exact values are

apparently it's quite low on hunter

[placid citrus]

it's probly not enough to be worth calculating ngl

[earnest drift]

i just want to know how much...

but truly maxing out dps usually means sawtooth circlet

and i don't think flea brew really works with that

[placid citrus]

does fleabrew speed up harpoon?

[north ore]

I also just realised Bell Beast's placement in the journal implies she may be a worm

[earnest drift]

nah

[placid citrus]

doesn't it imply she's one of the diggers from wormways

[earnest drift]

flintslate doesn't buff clawline either (WHY TEAM CHERRY WHY)

[placid citrus]

yeah then it isn't worth it for circlet

[earnest drift]

at least clawline works with focus and barbed bracelet